MAGNAGOTHICA MALEGHAST

[solid vapor]

'cause the rules say gargamox just ignore the damage, not treat them as positive

[pale echo]

Pretty sure they're negative

[solid vapor]

tracks

[tawny wing]

Yeah individual mox units have abilities that let them use plague tokens in positive ways but by default they just ignore them completely

[solid vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yflBXcr3CXM

i just wanna make a melee focused gargamox comp

i guess the best way to do that would just be focusing on making a hazardous terrain rumble pit

[umbral cipher]

and rotten

rotten are sick

[tawny wing]

Do upgrades to heretical units count against your 3 heresy choices or just against your overall dark power points?

Like if dogfriend took 3 warheads in that mox list would it be possible to add bladed or would that be a 4th heresy pick?

[solid vapor]

also is it per unit picked or per unit type

[tawny wing]

I think it has to be per unit? Otherwise you could run a deadsouls list that's nothing but scum, or like three carnifexes and two painwheels

[solid vapor]

yeah

[tawny wing]

It doesn't feel like that's the intention though I don't have anything specific I'm basing that on

[solid vapor]

thinking about how fun it would be to do music picks based on heresy combos

e.g. goregrinders + gargamox as like, sludge metal

gorgegrinders + carcass feels like itd be industrial electronic stuff, NIN/HEALTH

gotta still be fuckin heavy tho

deadsouls/abhorrers music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8Qqfu1pwQ

maybe a little too laid back relatively speaking with the music picks in this game but 😛

[crisp night]

Kyuss ❤️

Love kyuss love queens of the stone age

I like most music actually

[willow gust]

how would you guys organize some magnagothica games?

[devout pulsar]

there's a role you can ping

[willow gust]

I have some friends interested

irl that I want to get games going for, should I put it online or in person, and if online how should I share the rules with them in a wway that isn't bad?

[devout pulsar]

i've been told tom encouraged piracy for this one

[languid lotus]

tom has encouraged piracy, i cannot comment on this encouragement as that's a discord tos violation

[pale echo]

Game is made with VTTs in mind, but I think you could probably print out tokens for everyone's armies to play it IRL

[languid lotus]

using colored d6s to denote tokens is mentioned

[patent steeple]

or coins

[real bane]

https://fxtwitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1719436325273694375

[rugged musk]

Anyone remember what the text and title fonts are for Maleghast?

[willow gust]

I could also potentially print out the relevant pages if in person, that's also an excuse to meet up with people, but that is much more of a hastle for prep with boards and paper dolls

[torn portal]

i dont know the name but its in the 2nd page of the book

[rugged musk]

found it thanks

[bronze jetty]

sharing a game with your group is always morally correct

[primal nest]

I fucked up by lettting my leeches die early to set up a pretty meager suppurate combo on the lycan

I

I should have done the smart thing and put it on his homunc. Easy way to clear through it’s strength and mutation tokens while also doing dmg

And the lycan is just going to rush me down anyway so there’s no point

Gameplan now is to rush early game. Keep the lycan locked down enough so that he can’t bloodgorger round 1 (hopefully by letting a leech die so that I get a soul for insides out), then abuse homunc’s size by doing leech deathburst funny’s to keep me ahead

Once the strigoi and chop doc are down and at least one of my leechs this becomes way easier to close out

[spice stag]

@real bane you still running that game at 2?

[real bane]

in half an hour, yeah

I've got a player though, dunno if @vivid yew is ok with a three-player free-for-all

[vivid yew]

That'd be fine!

[spice stag]

if not that fine but I have been wanting to try playing with more players so itsd work out

awesome

I assume its on role20 still?

[real bane]

yup

[spice stag]

also are we playing on spite?

[real bane]

Spite, no heresy

still just easing into this game

[spice stag]

aight

[cerulean crag]

Question for the beautiful Idorri players. So like. Are lycans your main damage sources? Cause Striggoi seem like just a 2nd support unit tbh

[frigid lark]

My main damage came from the Stitch tbh when I played igorri

Buff the shit out of them and they become immortal

Lycan splash damage on hit got a lot of friendly fire so it's kind wonky

[glacial junco]

The most smart and tactically minded Igorri player here thats never made a single mistake in my life. /s

I can tell you that your main damage is going to be your Homonculus since they stacks tokens

I agree lycans are mad decent but I kept getting them stuck in front line and then damage with them gets risky because you end up friendly firing

Striggoi used to do 2 damage but even at 1 damage they are pretty useful since they ignore terrain penalties and hit from range

Stitchs CAN have the same problem as lycan but only if you love using Unstable Mutation as much as me

Otherwise they are just reliable attackers that can graze

[rich scarab]

in my very little experience but Perfect knowledge, Igorri have trouble dealing with armour

but everyone can deal damage

Homonculus can deal very good damage, especially if you hit another Tyrant

[little adder]

correct me if i'm wrong but Igorri has no base 2 damage attacks

[glacial junco]

Not anymore understandably

[little adder]

yea

[glacial junco]

We just have to deal with it by having virtually unkillable units due to vit tokens

[devout pulsar]

but it does have access to physical and magical damage

[glacial junco]

Truely a loss

[cobalt junco]

Question: How do you deploy in a 3 player FFA?

[glacial junco]

We did it based off sides

It, Ended up being tough for the player in the middle as you'd expect

[tacit cedar]

as slaughter

[glacial junco]

You could try Corners

[tacit cedar]

3 player ffa is tricky

[glacial junco]

We were talking about that for future FFAs

Deploy in and squares 3~4 away from your corner

Gives you like

[tacit cedar]

mfz: rapid attack does it well but its like built from the ground up around it cause it was the primary playtest setup

[glacial junco]

19 squares to work with

[cobalt junco]

just corners may replicate the same issue, I was thinking two corners and one side

dunno if that's just as wonky

[glacial junco]

Mmmm Maybe but then you end up with a kind of reverse situation

Discord please

[cerulean crag]

Gonna start sending non-sequiturs to make people think I’m having a conversation about Maleghast and discord is just dropping everything I’m responding to

“I don’t think it’s as tough as a match up as some people might thing because if they do turtle up, then you can just let your barrelform pop off”

[vague elbow]

do y'all stack corpses or put them in the nearest free space?

[glacial junco]

Corpses can stack, Some effects deliberatly let you place adjacent

[real bane]

both my banshees died turn one pls to help

[wide niche]

very excited to play this! want to check: is the pinned errata document the right place to put any spelling/wording errors? i noticed that the Black Mass is referred to as the Dark Mass twice on pg21

unless it's supposed to be interchangeable, which, fair, not really mechanically important aiui

[robust python]

Could you share your sequencing for how you did this with Stitches? I had the opposite experience where my Lycans clean house almost every game and I'm considering dropping both Stitches for a Strigoi

I had a fight against Deadsouls last night where my opponent kept trying to inflict Weak/Vulnerable on me (the Lycans had like seven tokens each and didn't care) and were smashing down walls and cleaning up the entire enemy army

[frigid lark]

Mostly lining them and using the chirurgeon default ACT, chop doc and unstable mutation to top up on tokens and go to town
Won against abhorrers with only stitches and chop doc

[umbral cipher]

The Stitches can do a lot with enough tokens, like any unit, but their main value is being expendable and great corpse value

[robust python]

How are you generating the Vitality tokens needed to make them immune to damage?

I have trouble getting tokens aside from Mutation on my Stitches, and Mutation Tokens are useless alone

just relying on Unstable Mutate?

That seemed to have the same issue as Bloody Slashes splashing to me, but with less benefit

[crisp night]

i am finally escaped from work

must play maleghast

[robust python]

mood

[crisp night]

time to spend 20 minutes overthinking a carcass list

[frigid lark]

Necro trait of turning mutate into other tokens and the other trait to transfer tokens

[lethal trench]

you can spread around tokens with Accelerate Evolution on your Necro

[frigid lark]

I got lucky too with unstable rolls

[cerulean crag]

Genuinely one of each is pretty great. Swap out the egis if there’s no walls

[frigid lark]

With igorri you kinda just need one token of each and then keep it topped up with mutate

[lethal trench]

Chop Doc can also give out Strength with Spare Parts enabled Inject Mutagen

[robust python]

ah okay so it was Accelerate

[prime portal]

I need to actually play Maleghast

[serene sundial]

1v1v1 lessgo

[prime portal]

Especially since I wanna make a faction

I refuse to engage in homebrew without actually playing the game first

[robust python]

@frigid lark What made you choose an army of all Stitches?

and Chop

[frigid lark]

Honestly? Thought would be funny

[robust python]

Did the Activation difference come into play much?

thanks for answering my questions btw (:

[frigid lark]

Uh not much
Bc it was against abhorrers we spent a lot of turns of just setup

[frigid lark]

Np

[robust python]

I see I see

[prime portal]

My current faction idea I'd a Furry faction (e.g. people grafting animal parts/bones to their bodies) that is either Park Rangers, Animal Protectors, or Rockstars

But I will only design fluff until I actually play the game

Plus we have a thread for homebrew so

[frigid lark]

So I had a lot of time and trial/error to get the engine going
Against other factions idk how it would go
Goregrinders could just run and deck all my stitches before I could buff them

[prime portal]

Random faction/necromancer idea:

Dinosaur Necromancer(s) from the first civilization, long before the advent of man

[devout pulsar]

we have a homebrew thread

[prime portal]

Fair

Apologies

[last crow]

I love the idea of the faction itself just being named Park Rangers

Just... they got lost and ended up here one day. They're just vibin'

[prime portal]

And now they protect the rare animal sanctuaries of Anzenemzzeron's living animal life

[glacial junco]

Igorri mindset.

[prime portal]

Turning them into veritable fortresses

[last crow]

Tyrant unit is just a walking, colossal bird cage

Or a moose. No alterations, just a normal moose.

[prime portal]

Nah its a necro-bear

But fair

[glacial junco]

I'll give Lycan another chance today Maybe 2

[last crow]

I'm getting Red Dead: Undead Nightmare flashbacks at the thought of Necrobears

[short estuary]

Finally I can deliver on my promise to get you and your little dog too

[languid lotus]

also consider the elephant, elephants are fuckhuge gigantic by real animal standards

[glacial junco]

Not If I kill them first

[short estuary]

Comprehensible

[last crow]

There are many real life animals that are JUST D&D Monsters

elephants, hippos, crocodiles

So on and so forth

[prime portal]

Hmm, can we talk about OCs here or is that better for another channel

[languid lotus]

i can only assume here would work

[pale echo]

Here's good

[real bane]

pain and suffering

[spice stag]

My last guy is a trooper

[real bane]

Abhorrers deployed bottom left, spend the first round just buffing up

Three damage inquisitor obliterating one banshee

6, 6 on a 0d roll deleting the other

[spice stag]

Me to my lil Ammogoblin bros when were surrounded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWhQdt-FafY

[vivid yew]

God's Strongest Soldier

[spice stag]

Inquisitor has the mandate of heaven, therefore he cant die

[small locust]

Gargamox's weakest Scum

[spice stag]

lol

[crisp night]

this is actualy how it feels to use mox populi

[small locust]

I was trying to spam insides out on my necromancer to give him cover against Carcass but alas, twas not enough

[solid vapor]

some other maps

[small locust]

Do you have these on a gdrive or somethin to grab at a later time?

[solid vapor]

no, ill do that later

but ty for the reminder

[small locust]

Word

[solid vapor]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YK2sKeLiZ9Dr84GFAtozEuYxL44rUQsO?usp=sharing

[pine crescent]

This is such a good look

[spice stag]

https://tenor.com/view/kakashi-thumbs-up-naruto-gif-15792601

thanks

[serene sundial]

Great satania is pretty pog

[old stone]

I’ve gotten the game a few days ago, and i’ve read it a bit
I’d like to try it, not now but like, tomorrow. I have tabletop simulator
Is there a group to ping for game organization ?

[short estuary]

There's a role that's just the name of the game

[spice stag]

just ping MALEGHAST in this channel and ask for a game when you want

[old stone]

Ok !

Thanks

[pulsar lodge]

Good maps, thanks

[serene sundial]

Unfortunately I got carcassed.

[spice stag]

<@&1169764878454620231> I'm can host a game in like 3 to 4 hours. Want to try to play a homebrew game mode. DM or ping if interested.

on roll20 vtt

[patent steeple]

played blood grinder

igorri vs deadsouls

fucking got obliterated on round 4 with no chance to come back

ended with 10 pts vs 18 points

igorri is super fun

would play again

[last crow]

DOOM do seem to be like that

[torn portal]

the couple of times I played against Deadsouls they didn't manage to proc Doom on me

maybe my partner was a little bad xD

[real bane]

I managed to proc doom once this last game, against a barrelform that forgot about it and that only got isolated in the first place to get into cover (that I managed to get to stay isolated with writhing curse)

Only time I even applied the effect tho

(which I guess is fair, only my necro even could, and they were busy patching up my losses after my damage dealers were swallowed up and the bound devil was unable to fight back)

[twin vessel]

Hi! Anyone got the unit cards in a printable format? For instance, the Goregrinder's cards are on a black page, so it would be impractical to print.
In exchange I offer this: CARCASS and GOREGRINDER units ready to print for 2.5cm/1inch squares.
Edit: it's ready to print on A4.

[last crow]

Jokes aside, DOOM seems designed to induce panic in your opponent rather than actually destroy units.

Forcing them to make bad decisions and all

Which is fun

[junior elbow]

I can't escape ACVI

[crisp night]

nobody can

621 in the egis weapon be like

[zinc solstice]

por que no los dos?

"You will die horribly, or you will die stupidly, guess which is which and take your pick"

[zinc solstice]

KENNEY ENJOYER DETECTEED

[solid vapor]

im planning on making my own tileset

maybe idk

if the mood strikes ig

[zinc solstice]

still, good taste

[last crow]

Truuu

[old stone]

A bit late for me. I’m gmt+1 (or +2, it depends)
Sorry

[broken cloud]

Can 2x2 units go on elevation if it is only 1 tile?

[pale echo]

Yeah

[junior elbow]

I'm pretty sure the unit pack that comes with purchases of the game/patreon have transparent bg files of all the units

[spice stag]

Thats fine. I'll also be looking for/trying to run games earlier tomorrow morning and throughout the day if your still interested at that time.

[undone kestrel]

EGIS wip - so much cleanup needed, urgh.

[junior elbow]

Ooooo

That's sick so fat

Far

[junior elbow]

What's the gamemode about

[old stone]

Might be
8 am is in 8 hours for me

[spice stag]

It's just capture the flag. So the win con is about getting points instead of killing all the units and units respawn and the beginning of each round.

[spice stag]

Here's the thread link with the rules #1170699117454962848 message

[junior elbow]

I'm undecided if I'll play digimon or Maleghast later but of it's the latter I'll let you know

[patent steeple]

how good is carcass at treasure hunt?

seems like they would be pretty weak

[prime portal]

We are at 17000 posts

Officially the largest thread

[crisp night]

magnagothica maleghast

it's peak

[night hedge]

maleghastmaxxing

[spice stag]

Peaknagothica peakghast

[hexed coral]

We're straight up winning the post fight :p

[analog notch]

Can i purposefully attack my own units? question for a friend

[night hedge]

yep

non attacks may be more specific about targeting so always check those, but attacks are always open

[junior elbow]

Can you attack the ground too

[pale echo]

blue supports "yes" red supports "no"

[pale echo]

There's nothing to attack

[night hedge]

i believe you can attack ground to do splash as per tom but i'm gonna check

nvm nothing on it

[twin vessel]

I'm not looking for that, I'm looking for the unit cards, the pages where the unit's stats are.

[frigid lark]

i think the ground is only "targetable" if its like, curse, effects or area (splash/line)

[umbral cipher]

not to breach containment here but I finished writing my homebrew house today, now in playtesting
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kIP4X29w1Lu7eCSQck5vYeLKplaQ_Gv3ruhxqdB_4d4/edit?usp=drivesdk

so if you wanna play some haunted scarecrows and have any feedback lemme know over inhttps://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1170699117454962848

[primal nest]

Question: when you use bodyblock is the attack roll affected by height accuracy based on the position of the body blocker or the necro?

[umbral cipher]

Gooood question
I think it would be compared to the bodyblocker's defense

Since bodyblocking is straight up just like
changing targeting

[primal nest]

Gotcha gotcha

[river lynx]

our lineup for tonight

we will see how it goes

our Goregrinders player has said, "either this is optimal or i am trolling" about his comp

his Painghouls are named GRABBEM and PULLEM

[umbral cipher]

Painwheels and Painghouls are a powerful combo, long as you're playing clever about it

[primal nest]

Also how you doing Derp?

[umbral cipher]

Doing pretty solid!

Feels good to get some stuff done and written

Though my day is so busy lmao

[misty basin]

can I get some step by step instructions for installing the foundry file that was just posted

I understand you replace the folder but I have not seen what folder exactly i am replacing with what

[undone kestrel]

Carcass Gunwight is now approaching finishing steps.

[glacial junco]

NEW ART GET!

[river lynx]

im gonna be updating this chat as we go round by round in my bout tonight

[junior elbow]

It's specifically about splash yes

[river lynx]

this is what we're lookin at for deployment

[junior elbow]

Ohhhh

My b

[junior elbow]

Range 3 from the edge?

[river lynx]

good catch

thanks for that

[zinc solstice]

i'm really tempted into making a necromancer house but still hadn't got my hands in the book yet

might stick to the visuals for now

[misty basin]

i figured it out

[junior elbow]

Side note, I think in general deployment zones should be clear or significantly less dense than the actual map as you struggle to deploy certain armies on complicated maps

[proven flame]

commission of an Igorri i just finished for @glacial junco
thank you for commissioning me kgjdfnjh

[river lynx]

yea, i think we ran a rando gen for this map tho and got someethin a bit wacky

[junior elbow]

WHOA

[spice stag]

Agreed. the ammount of maps that have hazard in the deploy zone is kinda annoying lol

[glacial junco]

[zinc solstice]

YEAG

[spice stag]

thats really good wth

[junior elbow]

How uh, how much are commissions

[proven flame]

vjkfdgnjdf check. linktree in my bio gfdjhkgbkjfhfgnhjkdgfcn

[umbral cipher]

oh I love this fucker
@unreal fulcrum look at they

[glacial junco]

@exotic zephyr @humble citrus check this shit out they turned my brain thoughts to life

[unreal fulcrum]

WHAT THE FUCK THIS RULES OMG

I wish i could get the aesthetic that perfect

[glacial junco]

So excited to have them die by accident Tactical Genius

[unreal fulcrum]

This is my best attempt but uts a lil stylistically sloppy

[umbral cipher]

marce your art Also nailed the vibe hard

[umbral cipher]

actually gonna @harsh gorge too

[unreal fulcrum]

~~just my regular style with halftones tbh ~~

[glacial junco]

Here are the rest of @proven flame 's Necromancers that I saw.

https://www.tumblr.com/c--iiii6w6

Give them compliments so they keymash harder

[proven flame]

no thats evil gfdlkjghnfkj 👁️👁️

[glacial junco]

[unreal fulcrum]

WAIT OMIGOD I SEEN THOSE BEFOR

YOU MADE THOSE??????

[proven flame]

gclkbn;dflkhnfdshglkfdnhlkdfgnmhjlkgf

[unreal fulcrum]

I literally looked to those as references!!!!

[vague elbow]

those look amazing

[umbral cipher]

I find it hilarious that everybody agrees gargamox is the Tits Out faction

[unreal fulcrum]

Like omg!! FUCK!!

[humble citrus]

This is amazing

[proven flame]

gargamox is tits out 24/7. no rules gjdfnlkhjgf

[humble citrus]

Excellent, Theja

[glacial junco]

Swampy made my necrosona real frfr

[unreal fulcrum]

Gargamox will stitch 100 rats into a cloak but only if it leaves the chest out

[glacial junco]

Truely my gender to a fuckin T so legit happy you got no idea haha

[unreal fulcrum]

Swampy, what kind of pen do you use for the lineart on your pieces? It looks so much like the official art!

[willow flame]

Dang those are awesome

[harsh gorge]

WHUDHWUDHAW

I GOT PINGED

[unreal fulcrum]

Check above

[harsh gorge]

YOUR ART IS AMAZINGGGGGG

[unreal fulcrum]

Epic igorri

[harsh gorge]

HOLY SHITTTTT

THIS IS AMAZING

[willow flame]

I wanna learn how to do that shading style better

[harsh gorge]

im also a token artistttttt

this is good stuff

[unreal fulcrum]

Karen post your token!!

[patent steeple]

very impressed with how fast the game runs

5 rounds took us 2 hrs

[unreal fulcrum]

ive just been using airbrushes on an 8-bit halftoning layer and it seems to work alright for medibang

[proven flame]

i use the Marker Chisel (Smooth) on Krita aack. Basic-6 Details for. well. detail hkjfghnf
necromancers tend to be more detailed than basic dudes, so its mostly Basic-6 aack
size 13 and size 6 respectively on a 1000x1000 canvas

[unreal fulcrum]

Ooo!!

[proven flame]

and then Screentone Pressure for. Screentoning gjkhfgnjh

[unreal fulcrum]

I will keep that in mind!

Thank u homie 🫂🫂🫂

[proven flame]

of course friend kfdjgnjfd 🫂 🫂

[unreal fulcrum]

You are an inspiration to me.

For real

[willow flame]

Saving this information for future arting

[unreal fulcrum]

Gorgeous art

!!!

[harsh gorge]

OH

YES I WOULD LOVE TO

https://fxtwitter.com/pixelcoffea/status/1720917422037954661?s=20

[unreal fulcrum]

I literally love your token work karen its so gooooood

❤️❤️❤️

[harsh gorge]

https://fxtwitter.com/pixelcoffea/status/1720292113139830956?s=20

And my deadsouls gal

[unreal fulcrum]

Oki i gotta go 4 a bit, thanks to chatting with me lovelies!!

[harsh gorge]

Seeya!

[willow flame]

I am absorbing information

[glacial junco]

I'm going to inject so many questionable materials into my lads tonight i'm so excited

[harsh gorge]

Woooo

[willow flame]

I haven’t done much drawing in years but this game really makes me wanna try it more somehow

And people have made so many blorbos so quickly which just amplifies that

[proven flame]

all ive been drawing for the past few days is necromancers afdsgdffd
my job cut me down to just 8 hours a week so like. this is basically my livelihood at the moment gkjfdhnjgfhf

[river lynx]

this bone wheel just killed 2 dudes

pictured offscreen is BOB (my Egis) who fired a mortor at these dudes earlier

[glacial junco]

@short estuary You better fuckin be ready because i'm goint to botch so many turns

[short estuary]

Bruh

[glacial junco]

i'm pointing to the stands on this one

[night hedge]

PAINWHEEL GAMING

2 pain ghouls is interesting

although admittedly they can just give 2 strength to a pain wheel each so eh

(this is effective strength because pain ghouls can give 2 speed, which pain wheels can use as strength

[patent steeple]

gonna be running 5 points of warheads

in my next game

its gonna be amazing

[night hedge]

optimal goregrinder set up

[exotic zephyr]

Oooh, sick

[patent steeple]

ngl after todays game i think i might have to main igorri

omega buff hours is too insane

[glacial junco]

We gain another to our ranks

Science will never die

[patent steeple]

like holy shit mutate is so insane

my homocolus was ripping it up

then i copied all of its tokens to my lycan

[torn portal]

did the lycan perform good?

[junior elbow]

Was the Lycan a good boy?

I feel like there are natural faction pairs that people just gravitate to as like favorite/2nd favorite

The only exception to this is Igorri since I don't already know anyone who's a huge Igorri head

[river lynx]

start of round 2: there is a clusterfuck in the bottom of the map

[junior elbow]

That seems about right

You should probably team up to deal with carcass

[river lynx]

I am CARCASS

[junior elbow]

Oh

[river lynx]

BOB is about to hit a gigantic mortar

[junior elbow]

Well then hopefully they don't team up

[river lynx]

they seem to be pretty focused on fighting each other rn

[junior elbow]

Good for BOB <3

As always the capitalist pmc profits from the cycle of violence

[river lynx]

B.O.B. is about to launch a giant mortar that will kill just about everything in that circle

(BOB stands for Buddy of Bombing, btw)

[junior elbow]

Sick

[river lynx]

that painwheel at the bottom in that corpse pile just killed like EVERYONE

[junior elbow]

I have a HA themed list with 3 Enforcer 1 Ammo and 1 EGIS named TBK

[river lynx]

dope

3 enforcer lmao

[silent sluice]

<WALL GANG>

House: Deadsouls
Malice: Spite (0) | Unit Limit: 5

[Units]
3x  Chosen
2x  Banshee

[Necromancer]
Dark Priest
Bonus Trait: Puppet Master

[ACT Upgrades]
Unholy Summoning

[SOUL Upgrades]
Twist Sinews

Do you guys think this would be a viable list? (I have no idea what I'm doing)

[old gorge]

So, what happens when a necromancer dies in Bonegrinder? Does the game continue, with the necromancer respawning, or does the game end but the dying necromancer wins if they are still ahead after their opponent adds the six points?

Or are those six points just for clout I guess

[patent steeple]

lycan was insane

[torn portal]

yeah? Im glad

how did you play it?

[short estuary]

Can you actually bring 3 chosen?

I thought there was a 2 unit limit on scions

oh no you can bring 3

[patent steeple]

i use stitches and strigoi to flood the map with corpses

[arctic solar]

I respect this list yeah

[patent steeple]

used free movement to buff up

then deal shittons of aoe dmg

[torn portal]

You mean bloodgorger?

[patent steeple]

yeah

bloodgorger is a lot of fun

i also like unstable mutation

[torn portal]

With bloodgorger you roll 1 die per corpse consumed, right? Thats a lot of bufs

[patent steeple]

im p sure its just keeping the highest

[unreal fulcrum]

I played against an igorri who made excellent use of corpses and that dog became invincible

[patent steeple]

yep

[unreal fulcrum]

Or at least very intimidating

good thing i packed carcass 6 soul ability whos name im forgetting right now

[patent steeple]

STG?

[unreal fulcrum]

Thats the one

[river lynx]

Fight ended with a CARCASS victory! But before he died, the Goregrinder Necromancer, KIL JOCKEE, killed the Gargamox Necro, RAT CATCHER

blood rage let him fucking murder Rat Catcher

[torn portal]

On every other similar effect it specifies you only keep the highest

[patent steeple]

yeah

[river lynx]

there are like fucking 4 bodies on one of the tiles in the bottom left btw

[patent steeple]

anyways lots of good buffs

[torn portal]

True goregrinder behaviour

[torn portal]

But i mean, if its not specified for this one, you should keep all the dies i think

Even if that might be OP

[unreal fulcrum]

Igorri will see bodies stacked like a 16-layer sub sandwich and exhibit shaggy rogers-like behaviors

[river lynx]

haters till the end

[unreal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/munchies-high-scooby-doo-gif-3625715

[brave ledge]

omg me

[unreal fulcrum]

Ya

[river lynx]

we only got two rounds because the goregrinders and the gargamoxes were beating the fuck out of each other so hard everyone died

[solid pilot]

yea that was an absolute shitfest that was awesome

[river lynx]

soup was running referee since it was our first match

[radiant token]

God bless Goregrinders are hilarious

[patent steeple]

ehhhhh biggy disagree

[radiant token]

And I'm convinced wheelmaxxing is the strongest strategy

[patent steeple]

omission isnt permission

[gritty jackal]

Rat Catcher was looksmaxxing till the end

world's strongest shitter

next comp 8 warheads 1 warlord we ball

black friday squad

[torn portal]

Well it should be specified so there is no room for doubt

Mostly when there are at least 2 more examples where it is specified in the Igorris alone

[grave warren]

just need to grab Tom the next time he swings by.

[chrome plover]

Played my first game a little bit ago, Goregrinders has a technically narrow win vs. Igorri. Used Devil Impact for a guaranteed kill round 3

Was pretty fun!

[radiant token]

Wow you got a 3rd round!

[gritty jackal]

you got a third round !?

[river lynx]

we just had a meatgrinder of a game

that lasted 2 rounds lmao

[solid pilot]

our first game just ended and it was....explosive to say the least

[gritty jackal]

the Rat Ocean claimed the Goregrinder ranks

[river lynx]

i am genuinely bewildered at the sheer amount of violence in the bottom left corner of the map

[chrome plover]

We barely got a Third round! The Igorri were down to just 2 units by then, and I just had my Painwheels and necro left

[gritty jackal]

Painwheels oh god

ptsd

[solid pilot]

painwheels are so funny

[radiant token]

I LOVE PAINWHEELS

[gritty jackal]

propaganda

[river lynx]

we had a massive melee in the bottom left of the map and meanwhile i got to sit in the right side and shoot

[chrome plover]

Painwheels were brutal, got multiple Spinouts that hit like 3 units

[radiant token]

3 Painwheels + 1 Pain Ghoul + Necro is the optimal Goregrinder strat

[river lynx]

we had a spinout that legitimately killed 5 people including the painwheel that did it

[radiant token]

Frenzy Chain on Necro for positioning shenanigans

[river lynx]

including an innocent gunwight that was across the map lmfao

[chrome plover]

Yeah definitely underrated Frenzy Chain. Knew it would be good, but actually playing the game, having that setup is gonna be so good

[radiant token]

I'm honestly wondering if it isn't best to just run 4 wheels and pray

Go big or go home

[tiny fulcrum]

You can't do that

You got a cap of 2 hunters in a list

[chrome plover]

Probably for the best

[brazen pine]

Don't let Big Rules tell you what to do, follow your heart, make a team of 5 tyrants

[chrome plover]

5 Tyrants isn't legal cause you can't fit them all in your spawn zone 😛

[brazen pine]

They'll just cuddle tight

[glacial junco]

Me and Splat will be streaming a blood grinder in the discord here soon, Feel free to drop in and tell us we are playing badly

[junior elbow]

Riot, Swat, and Paul

[junior elbow]

Will do chief o7

[little adder]

my group calls them the Goonwheels. because they're goons :)

love the goonwheels

[crisp night]

trying to figure out a goregrinders list is hard

mostly because i just can't decide between having two painghouls and one wheel or two wheels and one painghoul

along with the berserker and warheads

maybe i should just give in and do a full team of warheads for the culture

[fathom phoenix]

wait so. if you somehow get 2 vulnerable on a target. and then you hit them twice. do they take +2, then +1, do they take +2 and then +0, or do they take +1 and then +1

[crisp night]

+1 and +1

[fathom phoenix]

tyy

[crisp night]

you can only consume one of a token per instance of damage

or movement or whatever else

[fathom phoenix]

icic

[crisp night]

no problem 👍

[elfin ermine]

I'd recomend double wheel and 1 ghoul

if you lose 1 of each, I think the backup wheel is more useful in most matchups than the backup ghoul

[crisp night]

i'm sad to omit the carnifex but it does just kind of seem not as good as the wheel

[chrome plover]

Been thinking the Carnifex could be useful to run a slower version of Goregrinders

Weird, I know

Hm. Maybe not, thought they had more health than the Wheel...

[rancid girder]

Carnifex is good but lacks ways to crack armor

[little adder]

thinking about doing Abhorrers buffing a Berserker when my group plays with heresy

just a melee grindfest

[rancid girder]

Except for wild swings and even then it's only one damage

[chrome plover]

Rev should help crack armor, yeah?

[rancid girder]

not really, it's only the one token and the carnifex is entirely multihits

It's imo best against unarmored targets and large groups

[crisp night]

painwheel can build strength faster

and can do so while sprinting in

rev gives speed but it's not quite as effeective as literally just running enemies over with spin out and going 10 spaces in a turn

[chrome plover]

Painwheel also spends its strength before attacking quite often, cause it gets used up on the Move

[tiny fulcrum]

Painwheels are also a lot more positioning dependent though

[tiny fulcrum]

^

[crisp night]

yknow what fuck it i'm gonna do one of each for my first grinders comp

i haven't done a one of each yet and i feel like this is most likely the faction where i'd do it

the main reason i have hangups about not using carnifex is that it's one of my favorite unit designs

[little adder]

do speed tokens get used up even if you don't actually move the extra spaces?

[rancid girder]

Yes

[chrome plover]

Yeah

[crisp night]

what's everyone's consensus on the warlord traits
nerve twitch and blood rush seem like the best picks but i'm leaning towards nerve twitch for survivability

becoming 1/3 harder to hit is kind of good

that math is wrong but i cant be bothered to fix it

[chrome plover]

Nerve Twitch seems like the best to me. Retaliation is great but you also just don't really want your Necro to be taking hits very much, even as Goregrinders. If you're at 3 or lower, it's likely to be worth sacrificing a health for another point of damage on you

And Blood Drinker is pretty situational depending on enemy faction. Great against half the factions, but if you're fighting Abhorrors, most Igorri, or other Goregrinders, it just doesn't do anything

[crisp night]

yeah ithat's why i lean towards nerve twitch

the necro is the one unit that really needs to not die

[chrome plover]

I guess, unless you want to clear Berserk for some reason?

[crisp night]

blood drinker is a snoozer

[chrome plover]

If Blood Drinker, say, affected adjacent allies, I think it'd be much more usable, tbh

[languid lotus]

nerve twitch is jacked, it boosts your ability to avoid hits to the highest value a necromancer can have for it

[chrome plover]

Granted it does seem great into Doom or Plague

[crisp night]

apoplexy is such a funny ability

you're literally getting stronger from having a stroke

because you're that pissed off

[chrome plover]

Thinking back to that first game, it only lasted 3 rounds, and I think we only hit with a combined 4 attacks that entire fight

[crisp night]

what the fuck

how

[queen nebula]

I have a bit of a noob question- when you roll to use an attack with an effect, do you roll a dice for the effect separately from the attack? The wording of “some abilities have an attack and effect die rolled at the same time” has confused a couple groups I’ve played with. Would love some clarification on this.

[crisp night]

how was it that short if that's how little you hit

[crisp night]

generally i think people roll effect separate

that wording is a little funky but afaik most people roll effect separate

[chrome plover]

Devil Impact and a lot of auto damage

[crisp night]

ohhhhh devil impact

that'll do it

devil impact makes me just slightly sad because you cant use it twice in a match

because you just turn yourself into a thin red paste

[chrome plover]

I mean, it's also almost impossible to get that much soul twice in a match

[crisp night]

me when i run a full team of warheads

[chrome plover]

Possible but very hard

Even a full team of Warheads, going till round 6, only gets you 15 Soul. So you'll need all but three of them to die if it goes to time...

[crisp night]

that can be arranged

[chrome plover]

True! 😄

[crisp night]

i won't run a team of warheads as much as part of me wants to just because they really do have no way to beat armor

i mean, sure

strength from some necro abilities

but

[chrome plover]

Yeah, nothing intrinsic hurts

[crisp night]

against a carcass or gargamox it quickly becomes a problem

[chrome plover]

They are pretty solid otherwise though.

Unlike running a full team of Gunwights + Devil Bullet + S.T.G

Which gives no fucks about armor

[crisp night]

yep

part of me wished Bladed gave strength when you hit 0hp instead of retaliation

[chrome plover]

Yeah

Or if Retalitation beat armor tbh?

[crisp night]

yeah

but that might be a little TOO juicy

[chrome plover]

Retaliation seems super strong, but none of the ways of getting it really seem that worth

[crisp night]

yeah

therein lies the issue

[tiny fulcrum]

You do though

Blood Rage gives a strength token

[crisp night]

oh

wait

yeah

[chrome plover]

🤦

[crisp night]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-20411229

[chrome plover]

Yeah good call whoops XD

[queen nebula]

Thx, appreciate it!

[crisp night]

i have this bad habit of forgetting things i've already read if they aren't directly in front of me

okay maybe i will take a full team of warheads actually

4 warhead slots and a berserker

[chrome plover]

I think I forgot cause all of my Warheads died before getting their next turn after Blood Rage triggered. Pretty vulnerable to multihits

My team was 2 Warhead slots, 2 Painwheels, and Berserker

Actually y'know Bladed with the Strength token is especially good, cause that does ensure the extra damage goes off

[crisp night]

i have a question regarding berserk

actions like building rage or rev (with rile upgrade) that give berserk;

does berserk activate after that act, or after the next one on a following turn

[chrome plover]

I've been assuming no token is proc'd be the action that gives it

esp since those actions seem super bad if it did...

[crisp night]

yeah agreed

[silent sluice]

you gain the berserk as part of the ACT, then it triggers after the ACT finishes afaik

[chrome plover]

Esp esp since Berserk would proc your own Retaliation with Rev?

[silent sluice]

you just need to Rev while next to someone else. But also Retaliation won't trigger off of Berserk self damage anyways because it's not an ability

[chrome plover]

Rev doesn't deal damage, so you'd always take the self damage if that was the case

[silent sluice]

?

[crisp night]

nah berserk's self damage only happens if the berserk splash doesn't hurt

not if the preceding ability doesn't

[chrome plover]

... ah, I have been reading that very wrong, sorry

[crisp night]

yknow what? fuck it

four warheads one berserker

i'm here for a good time not a viable and intelligent time

[chrome plover]

Have fun!

[crisp night]

must grind gore

machine heart is just the best upgrade for berserker right

at least it seems to me

[elfin ermine]

dont talk to me or my son or my son or my son or my son or my son or my son or my son or my son or our necromancer again

[crisp night]

exactly

EXACTLY

i should make a heresey mox+goregrinder team called mystics of trash and violence

if you know you know

[inner finch]

I sketched out a CARCASS necromancer today that I’m very proud of

[woven basalt]

I love the pipe cane things

[glacial junco]

Thats sick as fuck!

[crisp night]

holy shit

this is awesome

[glacial junco]

What happens if a unit is at 1 hp and 1 plague token, Do they remove the token?

They can't be killed by it but

[crisp night]

i feel like carcass is the most mierable faction to draw because of how much greebling they have

this looks so sick

[inner finch]

I straight up was trying to draw an EGIS and then realized it’d be kinda funny for fun barrels to be sticking out of the mouth (or he stole some Barrelform rifles to smoke out of)

[woven basalt]

It's just uhhh combat stimulants totally up to regulation

[inner finch]

Yup definitely lol

[inner finch]

Thank uuu!!! I love adding unnecessary amounts of lines to places especially with pen where if you make a line u just roll with it even if it wasn’t intentional

[glacial junco]

Grow bonus limbs/arms feels hard to use

[inner finch]

It’s a lot easier for me to draw if it’s organic stuff

[glacial junco]

It takes so much resources to use

[lyric fog]

Machine Heart is good. Machinehead is better than the rest

[lyric fog]

that's pretty dope

[crisp night]

just an absolute clusterfuck of units

[junior elbow]

Me caressing my LV4

[crisp night]

living cannon scares me

[junior elbow]

Relationship ended with Unholy Sixgun, LV4 is my new best friend now

[crisp night]

the funny thing about lv4 is like

i imagine the operator just sitting in a lawn chair with the thing being rested on the two ammo goblins next to them

and every time it gets to their turn they just yank the trigger

and go back to sipping on their mai tai

[junior elbow]

There's actually like 15 extra skeletons with 3 running it as a gunner team and getting blasted to pieces whenever it fires from the shockwave

[crisp night]

clear backblast

range fucking 6 what a hilarious weapon

[junior elbow]

The backblast will clear itself really

[crisp night]

living cannons are scary in general but they're scariest for mox

[junior elbow]

Range SEVEN with Bone Wall

[crisp night]

my mox setup anyway

since i have 4 thralls

and all of them can just

go away

[junior elbow]

I did obliterate every single scum in the first round both times I played against Mox

First turn even

[crisp night]

:(

let them live

[glacial junco]

I got grimaced shaked.

[junior elbow]

It's a lesson in spacing

[short estuary]

Finally figured out Mox

igorri scum vanquished

[glacial junco]

I needed to take better necro options

[hexed coral]

😔

[junior elbow]

It's funny cause you're supposed to be purple anyway

[hexed coral]

At least tell me you preserved the kicks

[crisp night]

:D

that's what we love to hear

[glacial junco]

Strigoi feels

Not great lol

Well not aweful

[hexed coral]

I think they’re the hardest faction to work with personally

[glacial junco]

But def couldn't get though the armor

NOTHING could

I don't actually have a lot of attacked to hit garg before infect kills everything

Necrocide feels

Too much

[short estuary]

Necrocide is extremely stronk

[glacial junco]

Like jesus christ

I couldn't build up fast enough to make up for it

Grimace shaked

[short estuary]

necrocide+spreader is gonked

[junior elbow]

Get zeroed, choom

Necrocide does seem wild now that I'm looking at it

You can use virulence after to deal so much single target damage...

[short estuary]

There isn't any real interaction there

[glacial junco]

Yeah i'll see if i can get a runback after I try and build the list better

[craggy plover]

hey y'all, mutation tokens count as positive, right? for the sake of e.g. Sample Genome?

[short estuary]

Virulence does more Dee pee arr with plague but necrocide doesn't do plague

[tiny fulcrum]

Did you try and engage the Mox first turn?

[short estuary]

The strat was mostly just looping necrocide

[junior elbow]

This will also do good work

[hexed coral]

That’s interesting

[junior elbow]

I mean you have Infest and other secondary sources

[short estuary]

I have not used a single infest

all my acts basically went to necrocide

Slimes were what I was using to spread plague

It was 2 slimes, 2 rotten and a leech

[junior elbow]

But like you deal 1-1-1-1-1 then either 2-2-2-2-2 or 2+2(+2p)

Or uh

2-2-2-2-1

[short estuary]

virulence needs a good effect roll and plague setup to work

necrocide just needs a good attack roll

[junior elbow]

I suppose

[short estuary]

If I started stacking a bunch of plague on an enemy I'd rather just leech evolve strain

[junior elbow]

Haha, I'm playing Carcass and your slow does nothing to me

[short estuary]

It's not for the slow

It's 4-5 toxic damage

[junior elbow]

It does One toxic damage

No

[short estuary]

read it wrong sadge

[junior elbow]

It always does 1 toxic and does p slow

Yeag

[short estuary]

that definitely changed things

[glacial junco]

Oh thank christ

I was worried i got stomped with no counterplay

It would have mattered for sure

[umbral cipher]

lmao

[junior elbow]

If you have a speed and a mutate and get 2 slow, are you obligated to get rid of the mutate or can you live with 1 slow and 1 mutate?

[glacial junco]

You can use the mutate first

Then the speed* and the your net neutral

[junior elbow]

Yeah, I'm asking are you Obligated to

[glacial junco]

No

[junior elbow]

Ok

Igorri.....

[glacial junco]

yup

[junior elbow]

They're defintely my checks notes fourth favorite faction

So so curious to know what they've got going on

[glacial junco]

I like em a lot

[junior elbow]

I like them a lot too they've just got stiff competition

[lyric fog]

I love how the Deadsouls are all just "so this whole game is the gothest thing ever, but I feel like it's still not quite goth enough"

[languid lotus]

in an incredibly metal game, deadsouls is the Metal faction

[junior elbow]

I feel like while Deadsouls are more goth Goregrinders are more metal

[elfin ermine]

yup

[junior elbow]

That said it's more flavors of metal than a singular scale

[languid lotus]

goregrinders are the most metal in terms of being the most metallic by composition

[crisp night]

man i really wanted to play a match today but ended up being too busy and now it's too late

i mean i could play but i wouldn't be able to speak which i feel like would hinder things somewhat

[hexed coral]

Felt that

[vague elbow]

just move a unit, roll 1d6, and 🤨 in the chat with no other context. theyll get it

[craggy plover]

good to know! my friends are astonished that u can build up so many of them by Sample Genome-ing back & forth

[hexed coral]

Wanted to get one in before my dnd session but unfortunately

Travel took too long

[languid lotus]

i don't do vc at all and i feel that

[crisp night]

i might still try to wedge one in tonight tbh

[junior elbow]

To be fair, generating more than 3 soul is no easy task

[crisp night]

luckily i'm playing goregrinders with uh

8 warheads and a berserker

i do not need to announce complicated plays

[junior elbow]

I'd be down to throw my tentative Deadsouls list at it

[crisp night]

give me just a lil bit to finish some work

actually if you can pass me your list i can plug it in while im working

to my foundry

what malice level is it for

[junior elbow]

Spite, though I'm open to Loathing

House: Deadsouls
Malice: Spite (0) | Unit Limit: 5

[Units]
2x Sacrifice <Candles> <Sparks>
1x Chosen <Hand of Jon>
2x Vizigeist <Marked> <In Flame>
1x Banshee <Jude Perry>

[Necromancer]
Dark Priest <Agnes Montague>
Bonus Trait: Maggot Destroyer

[ACT Upgrades]
Vapor Form

[SOUL Upgrades]
Writhing Curse```

[crisp night]

spite would be fine since it's my first grinders match

[craggy plover]

not when u have 6 Stiches who're all dead by round 3 :p

[crisp night]

give me a bit to set this up and finish this assignment then i'll get back to ya 👍

[junior elbow]

Fair enough

[crisp night]

love this video

i finally feel represented

[junior elbow]

A friend tagged me on it within like an hour of Maleghast releasing, while I was still pouring over the rulebook

[crisp night]

perfect

[junior elbow]

Entirely coincidentally I might add

[crisp night]

even more perfect

that's hilarious

[junior elbow]

Unless he has Maleghast friends he isn't telling me about....

[crisp night]

by the way, game's all set up and i've simply decided i'm not gonna do my paper tonight, so i'm ready when you are

want to hop in a vc or would you prefer to keep it text based

[junior elbow]

I should be fine to text only

[crisp night]

works for me, everyone else in my apartment is asleep anyway

one sec let me shoot you the invite link

[primal nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1052476997571457095/1171310342509441064/MaleghastMycaNew.png?ex=655c36c3&is=6549c1c3&hm=ee3fac6096ff898ce482f5242309790f6ba7b14ca7bbabbbb8dcd39783cfcc62&

Decided to redo this cuz I wasn’t feeling the posing

[umbral cipher]

hell yeah hell yeah

[primal nest]

We slowly getting there

[umbral cipher]

hmm. <@&1169764878454620231> anybody up to nekro mansce a bit

[feral urchin]

ok so this game is sweet as but the Igorri Abhorrers matchup is. Slow.

first game so we're still not particularly good but man neither of us even hurt the other necro by the end

[inner finch]

I love them!!!!

[primal nest]

Thank!

[devout pulsar]

I can be in like 10-15 but it’ll be my first game

[umbral cipher]

That's fine!

Runnin Igorri, right?

[devout pulsar]

Ye

[umbral cipher]

Need to figure out what VTT I can set up quickly...

[spice stag]

roll20 is easy and free

[umbral cipher]

Hah, somebody's already made like 6 tabletop sim maleghast things

[raw coral]

When you use the Lycan's Bloodgorger, do you roll 1d for each corpse consumed and pick the highest, or do you roll 1d for each and look at each die, getting multiple tokens per die?

[umbral cipher]

Pick highest

[devout pulsar]

letsa go

[umbral cipher]

Set up a room in tabletop sim, pnet maleghast gaming, password lancer

[crisp night]

round 3 win as grinders

[junior elbow]

Using Igorri for your first time is brave, I salute you

[crisp night]

despite literally ten billion weakness tokens my plan worked

let the warheads eat shit, chisel the necro down to 6 or less health

Devil Impact

profit

[junior elbow]

Little Ghost Nagoriyuki.....

Sadly DI gets past 10 billion weakness tokens

[chrome plover]

Hey, there ya go, congratz! 😄

[crisp night]

turning my right arm into a conduit for the Corpse Piler cannot be influenced by tokens

[junior elbow]

Kill despite 6 billion weakness tokens.... KDSBWT

[crisp night]

Kill 6 Billion Weakness Tokens

so true

Kill 6 Devil Damage

[junior elbow]

Devil Flips the Priest

What's the corpse piler

Also need to work on my sequencing with Deadsouls

[crisp night]

goregrinders devil

it's what they worship

[junior elbow]

You're so right

[crisp night]

one of many big fuckhead demons

[junior elbow]

I don't think I've read any all the way through besides Carcass

Chainsaw Man real

[crisp night]

i cannot wait to see offficial art of the devils

carcenkarrion and filth devil mostly

[junior elbow]

Thinking.... the Chosen can walk through walls(?) but she technically isn't Free Moving while inside the wall so she clips inside of it for 1 space

Or I guess "within" is 0-1

Hmm

I will ponder this further

Anyways the Chosen did feel a little awkward to include

She died early but still

[crisp night]

chosen was very good when i played deadsouls you just cannot use her like a regular scion

she's utility rather than combat

kidnap can utterly fuck some lists

for example; in my deadsouls game vs abhorrers i won because i cyclopean monolith'd a wall in place then kidnapped the enemy exorcist through said wall

and kicked his teeth in before any of his units could break in to save him

[junior elbow]

True

[crisp night]

i did very much focus your chosen because of that though

[junior elbow]

I'm not confident in my ability to place walls quickly

In general

[crisp night]

i think i should've gone for the banshee tbh but i won so no point in ruminating

banshees are probably more of a problem unit for grinders than chosen

especially with my all thrall list

[junior elbow]

This is true

I really want my Banshees to be getting that strength even on round 1 I think

I could've done more with holding back the banshee and using the chosen instead or something

Though if I forewent a Chosen I wouldn't be able to use it for walls for Banshees

I think Deadsouls is weaker at Spite than Carcass

(Carcass being my main frame of reference)

Looking through the upgrades I see direct solutions to my problems in Deadsouls, like adding range to the Chosen's abilities or making Vizigeists more deadly

It makes me excited to move up Malice

[crisp night]

yeah agreed

i think deadsouls has a very sharp ramp up in higher malice levels

some of the necro abilities are crazy

[raw coral]

goofy aaah slime zone

[junior elbow]

Gargal gaming

[crisp night]

my goal now is to play a match a day

because this game is too fun not to

and i go through mild withdrawals when i dont play it

[raw coral]

my black mass is named the Ghastrosurfers and that's the waaaaave of slime babey

[crisp night]

actually i wont play a match tomorrow i just realized something

[fathom phoenix]

can the EGIS Weapon still move into and destroy walls with its step if it didn't roll a 5+?

[tiny fulcrum]

yup

[fathom phoenix]

tyyyy

[raw coral]

that's strange though because the similar effect for the stitch specifies "pick the highest" while the lycan does not, would this be an editing error or am i missing something about how effect die work as a whole?

[brave ledge]

huh I also didn't realize it was supposed to be pick highest

[silent sluice]

we don't know 100% how it's supposed to work

[raw coral]

okay that's good to know that i'm not the only one that doesn't know haha

the section on dice pools describes +1D adding to a pool and picking highest etc.

[dense lion]

if berserker (tag) triggers after the unit ACTs, does it happen right after Berserker uses this ability too?

[silent sluice]

yes

[dense lion]

thought so

there was a heated discussion yesterday in a game because of this

ty!

[tiny fulcrum]

No

You're not a berserking unit until after the ability resolves

Unless you already have Berserk tokens

[pale echo]

It would be really weird to use a token if you didn't even hold onto it for a turn, imo

[tiny fulcrum]

Yeah exactly

[silent sluice]

because you can get berserk tokens through other methods

[tiny fulcrum]

It also means you can't even use this as a buffing ability

Because if it works as you say you just hurt yourself for 2 if no one else is around

[silent sluice]

so use it when someone else is around lol

[dense lion]

I know it's weird, but the unit would have the berserker token by the end of their ACT, right?

[tiny fulcrum]

It very clearly isn't intended to be used that way imo

Like feel free to ask Tom, but I don't think Carnifexes are taking a deliberate nerf to their ability by purhcasing Rile, for instance

[crisp night]

yeah this is something i’m still conflicted on. in my game earlier i ended up trying not to use actions that gave berserk unless i already had berserk just so i wouldn’t have to think about it

[junior elbow]

It does seem strange with that one action/upgrade but every other piece of information suggests you use the berserk

Like otherwise why wouldn't you have them consume the token at the start of the action to get around this headache

[tiny fulcrum]

My honest opinion is that I don't think Tom would give two abilities that are that similar to a unit tbh

[silent sluice]

you yourself thinks it works this way, ironically

[tiny fulcrum]

Did you go through my post history to find something to prove me wrong here?

[silent sluice]

no

it stuck in my head bc it's a cool combo

[devout pulsar]

wasn't that bad at all plus i've played skirmish games before

[tiny fulcrum]

FYI no, the reason Apoplexy works that way is because Warlords get a free berserk token at the start of turn

You have the token before starting the action

But man you gotta work on your phrasing

It makes you come off as a twit

[junior elbow]

Why are you So combative man

[umbral cipher]

Tried out Moxx for the first time

They're rad!

Plague feels a little slow to dole out but Rotten are fuckin scary

[junior elbow]

Rotten are so good

[devout pulsar]

fuck the rotten

all my homies hate the rotten

[junior elbow]

Kekw

[tiny fulcrum]

Because someone pulls a post I made from a few days back and rather than using it to ask for clarification or anything, essentially says "oh but you actually do support my line of thinking because of what you said here, ironically"

[junior elbow]

I see who played who

[tiny fulcrum]

and I don't appreciate it

I'm gonna disengage from the conversation because I'm just clogging the chat now anyway

[umbral cipher]

Our iggori/garg game felt a little weird to me because neither of us was popping off, exactly (besides that one rotten swing dealing out 6 total damage to your units)

Went all the way to round 6

Perhaps that was due to neither of us quite knowing what to do with our units though

And also I bogged everything down with ridiculous amounts of hazards

[junior elbow]

This is the Mox way

[umbral cipher]

Corruptor moment

[junior elbow]

Corrupter beloathed

[umbral cipher]

I had a roster of 2 rotten, scum duo, leech and host

[junior elbow]

Nobody likes the slime 😔

[umbral cipher]

And I'm kinda tempted to drop the leech for another host
and just get fucked up with it

The slime is in a lot better a place after the update fwiw

But I wanted double rotten and they were the cut

[junior elbow]

My friend runs 2 scum 2 rotten 2 host

[umbral cipher]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[devout pulsar]

the igorri weren't even that hard to manage

[umbral cipher]

Two scum to pump the Rotten early, two hosts to immediately clog up the map

[devout pulsar]

i just tried to play compact/low risk

[umbral cipher]

I just lost the numbers game after a while

[devout pulsar]

did fuck up a kill for the reason of not keep track of when round ended

fun game though absolutely

[junior elbow]

What was your list

[umbral cipher]

1 of all the igorri comp

He did pretty well with it

[devout pulsar]

just the base comp had accelerate evo clone and recycle as my necro things

[primal nest]

Fuck yeah

Max your garga

[primal nest]

That was also my iggori/mox game too

Fucked you and let my leeches die early, didn’t have anyway to give the necro strength

[devout pulsar]

the armour was a bit frustrating on the rotten

[junior elbow]

Gotta use the strength, get those gains

[devout pulsar]

i did dw

[primal nest]

Ended in a draw tho. Had his homunc slorp up 10 corpse which while funny, also meant he couldn’t actually kill me round 6

[devout pulsar]

oh we weren't sure what happened at the end of turn 6

[primal nest]

Also man absorb is annoying when I’m trying to run scum lol

[devout pulsar]

if it was a draw or the person with more units wins

[primal nest]

Everyone of my friends runs tyrants 😔

[umbral cipher]

Oh reggie, quick tip
a great first turn for igorri is to have the strigoi go first, vomit on your lycan or homonc, then have them beef up

[devout pulsar]

yea realising it now

my best turn imo was the marriage turn

that felt nifty

[umbral cipher]

Yeah

When Igorri gets rolling it really feels good

[junior elbow]

In the default murder scenario (kill the necro) it's a tie at the end of round 6 no matter what

[umbral cipher]

Honestly I think I might drop Stitches from my comp
They're like, fine, but I'd rather have a strigoi for more reliable corpse gen or a lycan for more damage

[junior elbow]

Most other modes have you play out all 6 rounds then count up some kind of score

But murder is just Kill and if noone's dead it's a draw

[umbral cipher]

Which would prolly bring it to, what, 2 lycan, strigoi, chopdoc, maybe homonc?

homunculous is a good unit but I'm not a big tyrant guy

[devout pulsar]

i like the big murder

really punishes for grouping up

[junior elbow]

Of tyrants, Homunculus is my favorite, possibly 2nd favorite to Holy Body

[tiny fulcrum]

I feel like Stitches needing setup to maximize their potential is a mark in their disfavour for sure

They have higher potential than other thralls but I just haven't seen them get there

[junior elbow]

You can just sacrifice them to chopdoc for stats, corpses, and soul

[devout pulsar]

oh a thing about the stitches attack

does it gaining mutate allow you to use it on strength used on the attack? i assumed no since the mutate was after the damage

[tiny fulcrum]

Not too sure

[ivory burrow]

Good bloodrise necromancers! I have one small question about carcass. Can i use reload before unload reloading weapon? (for buffs)

[junior elbow]

No, it's after

[devout pulsar]

that was my reading as well

[junior elbow]

I Believe you can reload at any time by sacrificing a Move action, so yes

You could sit still and put a strength on your Operator t1

[ivory burrow]

Oh, thank you so much

[real bane]

true pixel sizes, maybe that comes out too small

Attempt numero dos

[devout pulsar]

slick

[real bane]

yellow's adverse, trees are 2x2 walls, rocks are climbable, spikes are hazards

[charred glacier]

Goregrinders be like

[real bane]

me when I'm doing lumberly actions

[charred glacier]

Alright y'all, who's Strength tokens are counted for the splash effect? The necromancer that did the Act? The targeted unit? Nobody's?

[silent sluice]

it's the Necro's ACT, so it would come from them afaik

[last crow]

Playing my first Maleghast game and goddang

Goregrinders are good at burning through my vitality tokens

[devout pulsar]

who'd ya play?

[last crow]

Igorri

Because I'm a Resident Evil nerd

[devout pulsar]

my sibling in undeath

[last crow]

They're just so funny!

[devout pulsar]

what'd you take for chirgeoun stuff?

[last crow]

Not the best picks

Chaos Beam, Skitter Rapid Move, and Recycle

I used

None of those options lmao

I took two Stiches, a Tyrant, a Lycan, and a Strigoi

[silent sluice]

you should have had room for one more unit

[devout pulsar]

yeah since stitches only take up one unit slot

unless it was a 2v2

i've only played one but i took rapid evo clone and recycle and i found them all to be of at least minor use

[last crow]

Two Stitches as in like

Two itereations of Stitches

So four total

Sorry for being unclear

[devout pulsar]

nah you're all good