timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 1:13 AM

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I think it might be armor

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Damage also makes sense but you could also tie that to abilities, as i assume range will be

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:25 AM

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damage might be a generalized mechanic

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but i could see it either way

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 1:26 AM

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i notice most are called thralls but the enforcer is deemed a scion

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:29 AM

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yeah it follows the format of 3 smaller boiz, 1 bruiser, and 1 2x2 big boi

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 1:30 AM

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yea

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 1:31 AM

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I wonde whaat the difference between thurlls and enforcers are

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:32 AM

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Oh hell yeah

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 1:32 AM

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Scions will presumably be more limited in how many you can have

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 AM

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yeah i assume they will cost more

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 AM

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sorry huh, I meant scion and thrull

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 AM

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also different hp

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 AM

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wait is it thruff

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 AM

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it seemed like scions were 4 hp, thralls were 2

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 AM

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yea i get the sense that scions are like second-in-command types

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 AM

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would've expected the sniper to be more elite

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:34 AM

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I think it might have to do with group activation?

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:34 AM

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necros are 10 hp and i thinnnkkk the 2x2s are 6 hp?

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:34 AM

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Yeah

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 1:34 AM

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I would say that's Thrall

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:35 AM

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willow gust would've expected the sniper to be more elite

well carcass is the immobile artillery faction

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so the snipers being thralls makes sense

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excuse me

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BARRELFORM

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:35 AM

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Although it’s weird cuz the loot goblin had 4 hp in the other playtest

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:36 AM

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i assume it will vary

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 1:36 AM

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I'd guess that there would be one other scion (maybe the one to the right of them?) as well as a third category for the big guys

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:36 AM

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that was just a trend i noticed

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 1:37 AM

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nvm right there's only five I'm a fool

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:37 AM

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since hp is listed per unit instead of based on class

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it seems like it can vary

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:37 AM

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It could just be a tag thing

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:37 AM

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which tracks for igorri

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true

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:37 AM

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For effects like “X affects Thralls”

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:37 AM

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i dont play skirmish games so idk how this sorta stuff usually works

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:38 AM

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Or something like that

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Hell certain upgrades might be limited to certain types

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:39 AM

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seems like upgrades are per unit tho

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 1:39 AM

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or the amount you can bring

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like up to 4 thrall or up to 2 scions

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:40 AM

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true

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:41 AM

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I meant more like “this upgrade can only be placed on thralls”

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:42 AM

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what do u mean?

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ur not selecting from a list for every unit it seems like

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 1:43 AM

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primal nest For effects like “X affects Thralls”

yea that wouldnt be too abnormal

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:45 AM

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patent steeple ur not selecting from a list for every unit it seems like

I know. say there’s some upgrade that gives +1 to hit but can only be used by thralls. You can give one to you ammo goblin and/or gunwright but not to an enforcer

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Granted this is all just speculation.

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:46 AM

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yeah fair

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just saying it doesnt seem like upgrades are set up like that, but im drawing my own conclusions ofc

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i might just be straight up wrong

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 1:47 AM

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Same here

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 1:47 AM

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tom said he might release it on holloween if he finishes in time

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crossing my fingers

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🤞

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 2:01 AM

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oh the thrall thing is placeholder text

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there's actually 6 unit types

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thrall, scion, freak, hunter, horror, tyrant

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and then your necromancer

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:02 AM

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Ah

umbral cipher Oct 30, 2023, 2:02 AM

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that's hilarious

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me and the freaks

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 2:02 AM

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thralls are your 2 for 1 basic troop unit

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scions are your beefy specialists

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freaks are support units

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hunters are ranged units

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horrors are fast assault units

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tyrants are your big 2v2 guys, they have bad defense but higher hp and do aoe and you can only take 1

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every faction lacks a type

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so for example carcass has no horrors

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and abhorrers have no thralls

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:04 AM

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Mox has no tyrants

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Icic

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 2:04 AM

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no abhorrer thralls

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perfect

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😈

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:06 AM

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Makes sense cuz they’re the stall faction that do big healing

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 2:14 AM

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still surpised that the snipers are thralls, had them pegged as a more elite unit

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:15 AM

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They are not. That’s just placeholder text

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 2:15 AM

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theyre gonna be hunters it seems like

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 2:15 AM

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ah, that makes sense

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deadsouls probably lack a scion
goregrinders likely lack a freak
Igoori probably lack a hunter

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:20 AM

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I’m unsure if it’s vice versa for Igorri/Deadsouls or not

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 2:20 AM

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the large surgeon guy really feels like a scion

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:21 AM

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I feel moreso that the vampire gremblin would make sense as a hunter

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 2:21 AM

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So I was right, the slime guy wasn't a monster

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:22 AM

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Assumable flies, uses its flight to get to high ground and starts lobbing spit at people

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 2:43 AM

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This makes me wonder what other houses lack.

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We know abhorrers lack thralls and carcass lack horrors

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It's safe to assume gargamox lacks tyrants (not suprising, they're anarchists) and goregrinders lack hunters.

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That leaves the question of iggori and deadsouls

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 2:47 AM

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Ye the slime dude mox has is 4 hp

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For grinders I feel like the hook lady could be a hunter? But freak also makes sense

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 3:05 AM

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deadsouls probably lack a scion

umbral cipher Oct 30, 2023, 3:11 AM

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Iggori might not have freaks

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But tis hard to say

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 3:13 AM

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Maybe

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We’ll find out when we get da book

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 3:14 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/fairly-oddparents-gif-22646087

Tenor

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 3:15 AM

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crowdsourcing a Range Of Possible Maleghasts and releasing them as homebrew before Tom can put it on Itch

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 3:38 AM

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maleghast jam

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oh god i could make an aswang faction

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:40 AM

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bleak folio maleghast jam

this would go hard

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 3:45 AM

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New homebrew:
Bridge terrain

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 3:51 AM

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aswang?

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 3:51 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswang

Aswang

Aswang is an umbrella term for various shape-shifting evil creatures in Filipino folklore, such as vampires, ghouls, witches, viscera suckers, and transforming human-beast hybrids (usually dogs, cats, pigs). The aswang is the subject of a wide variety of myths, stories, arts, and films, as it is well known throughout the Philippines. Spanish col...

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 3:52 AM

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a cyborg body horror faction could also be cool, like the creepy surgeon guy form bg3

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 3:56 AM

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I already got a few ideas for factions

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 3:59 AM

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willow gust aswang?

filipino vampiric monster-witches

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 3:59 AM

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what would their gameplay identity be?

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 4:00 AM

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prolly no tyrants
some sort of feeding and/or shapeshift mechanic

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 4:00 AM

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Tyrants feel inentionally a 'everyone gets one'

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 4:01 AM

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Nope. Mox don’t have one

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 4:52 AM

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Umbrella blacklisted them

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It involved incidents where they called Wesker an overgeled tryhard, spencer a crusty old bigot

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 5:16 AM

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They weren't wrong.

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 9:52 AM

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Tomorrow is the day!

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Maybe!

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 9:53 AM

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Tommorrow Tom will actually start having the world fall into hell to maximise Maleghast's appeal

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 9:53 AM

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He has a good Head Start

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 9:54 AM

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When the earth is consumed by the abyss, all the devils will be playing Maleghast like it's chess

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 2:07 PM

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patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 2:09 PM

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yes yes yes

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i assume df is the number u gotta roll over?

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for a hit?

deft halo Oct 30, 2023, 2:10 PM

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ammo goblin my beloved

umbral cipher Oct 30, 2023, 2:11 PM

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Oh funky

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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so it seems like thralls have the thrall trait

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2 for 1 deal

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but have 2 hp as a trade off

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formation is like carcass' faction trait?

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cant wait for my sniper to TRANSFORM INTO GUN

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https://tenor.com/view/luluco-judgment-gun-morphing-gun-transform-magical-girl-gif-26460149

Tenor

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 3:06 PM

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I like that layout

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Though the units not all being fully in the box is hitting my ocd lol

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 3:08 PM

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I do like 'em at that size, though

balmy falcon Oct 30, 2023, 3:25 PM

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nova mason Though the units not all being fully in the box is hitting my ocd lol

honestly? i think i would prefer it if there was maybe some generic background art instead of a black box but lets try not to kill tom. aside from that i realy like this layout

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 3:37 PM

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its going well, just have to slog through the houses now and get them all formatted

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 3:37 PM

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the big boi

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:38 PM

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reload

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we are so back lancer chads

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 3:38 PM

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I presume the Operator is the Necromancer

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Oh wait it literally says that

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Rip

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:39 PM

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i love the carcass necro

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 3:40 PM

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Is there gonna be any lore sections or equivalent blurbs.like in ICON?

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:41 PM

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oh cool, so its just one extra trait and act/soul ability

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thats a good amount of modularity

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 3:42 PM

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yeah but you can spend dark power (upgrade points) to pick more

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 3:42 PM

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blasting my foes with my catechism devil cannon

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 3:42 PM

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you could dump all your power into your necro and get kitted the fuck out if you want

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 3:42 PM

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me using my dark powers (upgrade currency) to invoke new and horrible spells (firearms for my goons)

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 3:43 PM

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I cast bullet

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:43 PM

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oh nice

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i wanna give my carcass necro all the guns

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 3:44 PM

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consider Igorri necro with 6 six shooters wielded by all the extra arms they grafted

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 3:44 PM

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I’m surprised tyrants do t have a trait that makes them cost 2

steady tangle Oct 30, 2023, 3:45 PM

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woow bones game

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:45 PM

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u just cant have more than 1 i think

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 3:47 PM

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🇦 🇷 🇲 : ARM

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 3:48 PM

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i wonder how u get headshots

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unless thats just a crit

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:48 PM

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my running theory is a 6

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on a dice roll

glacial junco Oct 30, 2023, 3:51 PM

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I love doubletap holy hell

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So often in skirmish games you barely miss a model kill by a wound or two

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Having the ability to go "No, Die." is so clutch and super cool

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 3:51 PM

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thisfucks

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 3:52 PM

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bullet time is sick

glacial junco Oct 30, 2023, 3:52 PM

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Also S.T.G. is too fukin cool

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 3:53 PM

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Boom, headshot

grave warren Oct 30, 2023, 4:06 PM

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patent steeple my running theory is a 6

That'd match the example of play diagrams from the other day

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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has it come up how many slots that you get for your team?

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 4:13 PM

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6

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Your necromancer always takes the first

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 4:14 PM

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the three person playtest seems to be 4+necromancer

arctic solar Oct 30, 2023, 4:14 PM

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me making a team of entirely gunwights to fuel my soul binge of bullet murder

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 4:15 PM

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An Operator with Bullet Sonata and Double Tap can kill any number of HP 2 units within range 2 😁

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 4:16 PM

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willow gust the three person playtest seems to be 4+necromancer

in fairness, im p sure that was mid-skirmish

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 4:20 PM

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this looks pretty mid deployment to me

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 4:23 PM

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There are those three on the side. Maybe there's a reserve system?

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:24 PM

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def seems like its 6 slots

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1 tyrant, thralls are 2:1

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 4:24 PM

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willow gust this looks pretty mid deployment to me

oh wait i was misrememberin

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was thinkin of the other playtest screenshot

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 4:27 PM

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Actually there are more than three. So yeah idk

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 4:36 PM

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given necromancers, summoning new units off of dead ones seems omre likely than reserves

golden wave Oct 30, 2023, 4:42 PM

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Ah hell yeah the gun skeletons have 𝖙𝖆𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖑 reloads, this is beautiful

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 4:48 PM

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very interested in seeing the abhorrers and deadsouls

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:48 PM

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abhorrerrsssssss

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Oh shit we got pages

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 4:49 PM

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the mind goblin vomits bullets

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:50 PM

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also explodes

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 4:51 PM

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It go boom boom

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 4:52 PM

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ARM: -
ARM: ARM
ARM: ARMOUR

big things happening

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 4:52 PM

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Also it seems accuracy bonuses it’s gonna be adding a D6 to a roll and then presumably picking the highest

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:53 PM

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oh that might be it

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:53 PM

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rich scarab ARM: - ARM: ARM ARM: ARMOUR big things happening

i assume the values arent set in stone but im pretty confident arm=armor

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 4:54 PM

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patent steeple i assume the values arent set in stone but im pretty confident arm=armor

I know, it says Armor on the Necromancer

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That's what I was making refrence to

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 4:54 PM

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it's like fira->firaga

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but for armor

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:55 PM

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LOL

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 4:56 PM

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There is also mention of "super armor"

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:56 PM

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wait where

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 4:56 PM

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Arm->Armor->Armored->Megidolarmor

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 4:57 PM

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It's actually different for every faction
CARCASS goes Arm > Armor > Armory
but Igorri goes Arm > Armer > Armest

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 4:57 PM

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patent steeple oh that might be it

Ye you can see in the barrelform upgrades

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 4:57 PM

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patent steeple wait where

Bone Lock in the ACT upgrades

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 4:58 PM

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urban forge It's actually different for every faction CARCASS goes Arm > Armor > Armory but ...

Goregrinders is Arm->Disarm->Disarmament

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 4:59 PM

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rich scarab Bone Lock in the ACT upgrades

hmmm maybe it might be reduce next hit to 0?

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idk

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 5:06 PM

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I'm wondering if an interesting idea to do heresy is that each faction has a unit specialty that they can steal from others, like carcass being able to use hunters from other factions, or abhorrers using scions

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:09 PM

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Also it seems that graze dmg isn’t listed here separately so it might be just a universal half damage or -1 Dmg

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 5:09 PM

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my gut instinct is graze is 1 dmg

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hp values seem pretty standardized

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and low

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:11 PM

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Yeah

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Haven’t seen anything that’s more than a 2

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Atleast not counting vulnerable

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:12 PM

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Curious if anything will be able to ignore graze

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Like icon dodge?

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Yeah

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Or armor

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Maybe

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Else volume of fire might just be the way to take down a tyrant

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:13 PM

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I could see a unit having a dodge trait

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Also clutch reload + devil bullet seems scnasty

grave warren Oct 30, 2023, 5:14 PM

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Most of the carcass acts deal 1 damage at a time. So either they functionally always deal damage, or graze has some extra limitations (ignores strength tokens, ignores extra effects)

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 5:15 PM

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I think the Gunwight implies that a graze would be negated by armour?

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else it's designed to be enabled by damage buffs

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especially as armour comes with being much easier to hit aiui

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enforcer has the same amount of health as the rest of the regular guys and a worse defence, so armour must be pretty significant for it to be a tanky unit

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:20 PM

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Oooh S.T.G. Confirms something I assume for a while which is that there’s a Graveyard

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 5:24 PM

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We yugioh zombie gaming now

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Graveyard? That's their break room.
Destroying this zombie? This activates a chain reaction that allows me to search and summon my strongest zombies and banishes most of your field. Except thst activates your cards that steal my zombies and sets a bomb on my necromancer

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 5:27 PM

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bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 5:27 PM

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omg the soundtrack listings

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 5:29 PM

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yes haha YES

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 5:29 PM

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Deadsoul necromancer that surgically attached extra souls

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:30 PM

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Yoo new dead souls necro

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 5:30 PM

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he looked a little goofy before and the composition was whack

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now he is appropriately black metal

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:31 PM

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Nice

balmy falcon Oct 30, 2023, 5:32 PM

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humble citrus Deadsoul necromancer that surgically attached extra souls

were they 9 baboon souls to get a majority stake on their own soul

steady tangle Oct 30, 2023, 5:32 PM

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i dont play skirmish wargames but ngl im p excited for this and might give it a try

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:32 PM

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I think the playstyle section could be a bit more fleshed out

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 5:32 PM

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no way

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:32 PM

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But god im hyped

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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u guys are smart you will figure it out

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this is a compact fucking game

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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Sir im dumb as a sack of bricks

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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Love the move from kiss to satanic

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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like I would love to put unit lore in there there is literally just no room for it

balmy falcon Oct 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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playstyle: ~its a secret~

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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i mean you will look at the deadsouls units and get their deal in about .5 seconds

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 5:33 PM

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playstyle: ????

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 5:34 PM

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Playstyle: just hit them 4head

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 5:34 PM

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playstyle: look dude even idfk

balmy falcon Oct 30, 2023, 5:34 PM

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naive glacier like I would love to put unit lore in there there is literally just no room for ...

LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE
/jk

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 5:34 PM

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in all seriousness tom this looks sick

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i dont listen to much metal but the soundtrack stuff is great

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 5:34 PM

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This looks amazing

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 5:50 PM

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naive glacier

Oh shit did deadsouls dude become deadsouls lady???

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:51 PM

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I think thats still a man but just sluttier

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 5:52 PM

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I mean the prior design did not have tactically hidden titty as memory serves

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Nor that face lol

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https://vxtwitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1707090001521995976?t=aFbzB8F_HbuIe-b8e7HvzA&s=19

vxTwitter

Twitter

evil deadman (@Orbitaldropkick)

DEADSOULS

💖 3244

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As ref

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 5:53 PM

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who says they even gender

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 5:54 PM

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I mean my other thought was enby yes

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I'll take weird buff butch whose enby or lady tbh

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I just crave the buff butch lol

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Not commenting on the gender (as all genders may have tits out) but i do think new deadsouls necro does have tits out still just they are occluded from our perspective

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 5:56 PM

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gender is: nun

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(satanic nun)

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Most people think of being "dead" or "alive" as an either/or proposition, which makes the Deadsouls necromancy nonbinary

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Gender: death metal

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 5:56 PM

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timber onyx Not commenting on the gender (as all genders may have tits out) but i do think n...

I mean that's why I said tactically hidden

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Necromancy is nonbinary coded

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 5:57 PM

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Which reads as enby or lady to me lol

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 5:57 PM

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i mean you read them however

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i did take away their slutty thigh cutouts sadly but they are still there under the cloak u just have to imagine them

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 5:57 PM

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Lol

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I very much like the final design Ngl

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Here for buff butch eldritch cultist energy

balmy falcon Oct 30, 2023, 6:00 PM

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naive glacier i did take away their slutty thigh cutouts sadly but they are still there under ...

to maintain balance you must now add slutty thigh cutouts to a differant factions key art necromancer

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 6:00 PM

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Tactical slutty cutouts for carcass

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:01 PM

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I also like how the proportions make their neck and head feel off in a creepy way

balmy falcon Oct 30, 2023, 6:01 PM

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i was personally thinking the one from gore grinders

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Very much selling their creepy vibe in the fluff

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:01 PM

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timber onyx Tactical slutty cutouts for carcass

cracking my knuckles, ready to draw an Arknights style CARCASS necro

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Instead of the equally cool kiss necromancer look being more like just metal and cool

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:02 PM

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maybe ill mix it with my Seiga concept

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tactical jiangshi

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:03 PM

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nova mason Very much selling their creepy vibe in the fluff

yeah, they are suddenly way more scary huh

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 6:03 PM

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on average, people who get shot are wearing clothes. Therefore the most tactical garb is nakedness.

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 6:03 PM

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feral hearth cracking my knuckles, ready to draw an Arknights style CARCASS necro

Sympatico

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:04 PM

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what is that

primal flame Oct 30, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Hello I love all the art in this book and im hype as hell for the game to come out

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:04 PM

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feral hearth yeah, they are suddenly way more scary huh

It's in part the hood/face

bleak folio Oct 30, 2023, 6:04 PM

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rich scarab on average, people who get shot are wearing clothes. Therefore the most tactical...

idk why but a nude necromancer skirmish does weirdly feel within the vibe of this game

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 6:04 PM

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feral hearth *what is that*

Of like mind

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:04 PM

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nova mason It's in part the hood/face

i believe its a nun hat

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oh, indeed

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:05 PM

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But it's also the size of the head sorta being off and the neck being at like a weird angle

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:05 PM

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maybe they just got a bit of a long neck :)

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:06 PM

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Like and those dichotomies sorta make it feel uncanny in a cool way

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No yeah exactly

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We went from meat neck on meat neck body to meat neck body with neck neck lol

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Also there's no eye glow now

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Like the head area is just generally harder to make out lol

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Which I feel very much fits the cults vibe

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 6:08 PM

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sjust pre and post phase change

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:08 PM

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?

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 6:09 PM

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half joke

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like just imaging them throwing away the cloak mid battle

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Also I do find it funny that technically the cross in the sword is a normal cross lol

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Unless it like rotates in the sword

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Which since it's like free floating energy is totally feasible

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:10 PM

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its on a disc as you an see

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so it swivels

tired salmon Oct 30, 2023, 6:10 PM

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found the initial key-art bc of the deadsouls big art

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and im love the carcass example

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nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:10 PM

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Is it a disc?

tired salmon Oct 30, 2023, 6:10 PM

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i assume she's carcass, anyway

umbral cipher Oct 30, 2023, 6:10 PM

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Permanently Upside-Down Cross

tired salmon Oct 30, 2023, 6:10 PM

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pink

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 6:11 PM

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naive glacier

Like I think it's free floating like energy or something

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 6:11 PM

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yeah the eyes match the carcass color

tired salmon Oct 30, 2023, 6:13 PM

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naive glacier

also, reading this page; the Deadsouls can inflict 'true death' on undead??? even in the city where nobody dies??????

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 6:13 PM

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Tacticool toe shoes

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Carcass operator is my fave

inland frost Oct 30, 2023, 6:15 PM

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tired salmon also, reading this page; the Deadsouls can inflict 'true death' on undead??? eve...

That's why they scary

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spooky

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 6:15 PM

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carcass chan is the best

glacial junco Oct 30, 2023, 6:44 PM

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I like the sciency lookin folks i don't remember their house name

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 6:47 PM

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Igorri

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 6:47 PM

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Igorri Necro does have the drip

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 6:54 PM

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Has Tom previewed anything about what Necromancer building looks like? Similar to the unit previews.

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:55 PM

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it's on the page with the Carcass Tyrant

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 6:55 PM

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Necromancer options here
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lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:55 PM

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you basically have a list of options to pick from

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 6:55 PM

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necros get traits, a couple act and soul abilities, plus a buy system that you can spend DARK POWER on

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you get some for free, then can buy more

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:56 PM

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I wonder if Reload reloads one weapon, or all of them

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 6:56 PM

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Oh so are the upgrades on the right just for the Necromancer?

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:56 PM

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yeah

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 6:56 PM

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yep

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Carcass Necro with just All The Guns does seem kinda funny

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 6:57 PM

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lethal trench I wonder if Reload reloads one weapon, or all of them

we dont know how u reload regularly so it might be a "no act" next turn thing

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 6:57 PM

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And the three boxes under each unit, those are the upgrades available for each unit? They're labeled like that in the empty screenshot

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:58 PM

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seems it yeah

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 6:58 PM

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Probably

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:58 PM

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so the regular units each have their three upgrades, and the Necro has the list

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 6:58 PM

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silent sluice And the three boxes under each unit, those are the upgrades available for each u...

yep, you can spend dark power on act upgrades

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how much you have is dependent on the complexity tier ur playing at, i gather

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 6:59 PM

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yeah it seems like higher Malice will give more budget and rules complexity

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 6:59 PM

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And the stats are Move, HP, Defense, Armor?

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What do we think CGIS stands for?

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 7:01 PM

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silent sluice And the stats are Move, HP, Defense, Armor?

Seems like it

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 7:01 PM

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yeah

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 7:02 PM

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silent sluice What do we think CGIS stands for?

Cognitive
Global
Intelligence
System

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idk i just threw some words out

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 7:02 PM

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sCeleton Ghost In Shell

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 7:02 PM

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I think that's an E?

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not entirely sure

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 7:03 PM

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It’s an E ye

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 7:03 PM

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It's the SEE-jizz Weapon

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 7:03 PM

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though EGIS doesn't make it much clearer

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 7:03 PM

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aegis

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 7:03 PM

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ggez

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 7:03 PM

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skEleton Ghost In Shell

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 7:05 PM

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Egregarious Gigantic Immolation Skeleton

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 7:10 PM

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carcass chan

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she is actually cover lady and example lady also

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her name is Penny Dreadful

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 7:11 PM

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we LOVE carcass chan

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 7:11 PM

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pennys stay winning

heavy zinc Oct 30, 2023, 7:11 PM

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I love her

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 7:12 PM

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oh cool mechanics for reload

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reinforces their vibes

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Oh it's a rifle not a sword

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 7:15 PM

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"a unit that is obliterated leaves neither body nor soul"

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 7:15 PM

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oh Reload only takes a move, interesting

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 7:15 PM

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lets people creep up on you

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 7:15 PM

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so no running and gunning

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 7:16 PM

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unless you combat slide and that's a SOUL power

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iirc

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Also

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forbidden bone tactics

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Bone Tactics Bible

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 7:18 PM

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yoooooo

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 7:18 PM

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the skeletons also just continuing to grow and needing to be moulded and trimmed occasionally is an interesting idea

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maybe that's how the Skeleton Ball came to be

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 7:18 PM

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yeah you let them get big they become bone mechs

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like the Egis weapon

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Wild Skeleton vs Domestic Skeleton

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 7:19 PM

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bonsai skelton

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Bonesai

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Carcass commander contest where they compete to have the most deadly bonesai

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 7:21 PM

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For some moments, I thought it was the skeletons in their bodies

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 7:24 PM

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It might be those too

umbral cipher Oct 30, 2023, 7:28 PM

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why not both

glacial junco Oct 30, 2023, 7:28 PM

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naive glacier

Dorohedoro slaps

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I love the vibe a lot

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 7:31 PM

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i now wonder about the remaining soundtracks

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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How does Bone Power Armor work

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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(the autism in me hopes for one specific kglw album that it thinks befits goregrinders to be present)

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Are these people wearing skeletons

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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I have bad news about Starduster

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Understandable have a nice day

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 7:33 PM

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You're skeleton wearing person

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Gronk

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 7:33 PM

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prime portal How does Bone Power Armor work

necromancy can animate bones, right? wear the bones and use their movement to supplement your strength

tired salmon Oct 30, 2023, 7:34 PM

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naive glacier

so will 3 of the faction spreads have white BG and 3 have black BG?

rich scarab Oct 30, 2023, 7:38 PM

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Skeleton rearing for ARM vs for Soldiers

real bane Oct 30, 2023, 7:44 PM

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For vuln/weak/str, if you have multiple do you count them all then just reduce by one?

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Or is it like a stack of counters you take from one at a time

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 7:45 PM

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feral hearth cracking my knuckles, ready to draw an Arknights style CARCASS necro

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 7:46 PM

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Yoooo

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 7:46 PM

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i did some tracing to get the thighs right

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 7:48 PM

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real bane Or is it like a stack of counters you take from one at a time

Looks like a stack of tokens

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 7:50 PM

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Wonder how fire works

umbral cipher Oct 30, 2023, 7:53 PM

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feral hearth

hell yeah

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 7:53 PM

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feral hearth

doctor we need to resurrect the dead

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 7:55 PM

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||is that another reference i dont get||

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oh btw the Bunnyghast, shes meant to be a Carcass Deadsouls i think

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tank and artillery :3

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 7:59 PM

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idk arknights at all, im just referencing doctor cuz you referenced arknights 😭

feral hearth Oct 30, 2023, 7:59 PM

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oh, neither do i

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but they have alot of cool girls in tactical gear

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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primal nest Wonder how fire works

I think fire might bypass armor

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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feral hearth

we stan

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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ohhhhh okay lmfao

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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since most of the fire sources seem to be only 1 damage

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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why the fuck am i such a sucker for tacticool fantasy

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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cuz it goes hard

glacial junco Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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feral hearth

I love your art, When I get a team together I need to see if you do comms frfr

prime portal Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Because it's cool

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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it might just interact with certain other rules

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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cool thing plus second cool thing

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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rather than have any intrinsic difference with regular damage

night hedge Oct 30, 2023, 8:02 PM

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reload is less sacrificial than i thought it’d be which i’m glad about

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form a big ol gun line

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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range is rather limited and space is so small

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giving up move can be big

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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yeah with a double move fast units can close in very quickly

umbral cipher Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Hence why you got the ~~mind~~ ammo goblin I suppose

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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there is also Engagement IIRC, so you can block with other units a bit

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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I don’t think there is engagement, judging by that movement diagram

lethal trench Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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might be getting mixed with something else

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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I think tom was like icon works the same

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and then ppl were like oh but with engagement

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and then tom was like oh right yeah icon has engagement

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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praying theres no engagement

tacit cedar Oct 30, 2023, 8:07 PM

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#icon-general message

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it was in icon chat so maybe that's why some ppl didn't see

night hedge Oct 30, 2023, 8:08 PM

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patent steeple range is rather limited and space is so small

carcass has all that push for a reason

urban forge Oct 30, 2023, 8:08 PM

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But as far as I know, we don't know if there's a penalty for shooting while someone is in melee with you

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 8:09 PM

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not in this game

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we are winning

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:10 PM

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engagement is a poor fit for the kind of game maleghast is i think'

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 8:13 PM

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urban forge But as far as I know, we don't know if there's a penalty for shooting while some...

Ranges are limited tho

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:14 PM

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im personally a really big fan of how ranges seem banded

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 8:14 PM

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Gunwight and Barrelform both have ranges that don't include 1
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timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:14 PM

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cant shoot next to themselves

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like IDIOTS

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i love them

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rangebanding is one of my favorite mechanics

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 8:15 PM

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whats that

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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ranges are not strictly drawn evenly from the unit to the far point they can actually shoot

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instead there is either a band they can shoot in or bands of better/worse shot

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gunwights for example can only shoot at ranges 2-3

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cant shoot in CC (range 1)

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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oh gotcha

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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the best example of the other version is the wargame infinity, which has modifiers based on how far away the unit is, and often there are worse rangebands for closer units

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i like it cause it actually makes positioning for shooting units interesting

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im not just going to sit still and fire my Fuckoff Gun

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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The only thing that could get me even more excited is orthogonal ranges, cuz I’m a weird

dull torrent Oct 30, 2023, 8:34 PM

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sketch of a silly Igorri/Abhorrer blorbo

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 8:34 PM

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Hell yeah kelpie

dull torrent Oct 30, 2023, 8:35 PM

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the only thing this silly fella cares for is SCIENCE
and experiments on biblically accurate undead :3

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 8:35 PM

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scients

dull torrent Oct 30, 2023, 8:36 PM

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anyway, Sunny suggested a very silly idea of this fella and their carcass blorbo being roommates in a Pinky and Brain kind of situation

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 8:47 PM

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i need to guess that if any of these factions are power metal it HAS to be the abhorrers

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nothing else makes sense to me

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||i have been known to be stupid at times though||

languid lotus Oct 30, 2023, 8:51 PM

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by process of elimination it's either goregrinders or abhorrers. carcass and deadsouls are known not to, while gargamox and igorri probably don't fit

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 8:51 PM

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naive glacier thralls are your 2 for 1 basic troop unit

If you're playing with multiple factions, can you mix and match different Thralls?

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 8:52 PM

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i have a feeling that the goregrinders might be related to goregrind metal

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just a hunch

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 8:52 PM

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something in maleghast inspired by metal?

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perish the thought

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 9:18 PM

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that igorri dorohedoro song is great, is that the anime opening or is just inspired by it?
unfortunately I don't like growling metal so a bunch of the vibe songs don't really do it for me

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 9:27 PM

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Iirc its an album Q Hayashida commissioned herself

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 9:33 PM

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My unsolicited suggestion for the name of Ammo Goblin's Upgrade III is "Ammo Number 2"

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 9:34 PM

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man ngl. im into the skirmish game but id also love a ttrpg in this setting

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like i love basically everything about the deadsouls fluff

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and aggressively want to play a deadsoul lol

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also its sorta like almost eery to me how simlar the deadsouls lore is to the lore i have for ndem

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like id planned to rep her as a deadsouls as is but man i dont even have to change much about her like "lore" lol

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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im guessing with the upgrade system you could kind of wrangle the game into a ttrpg

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 9:36 PM

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i suppose lol

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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the difficult part would probably be knowing what else to do for character advancements and meaningful combat encounters, along with all the other stuff you need for a ttrpg

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 9:37 PM

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Didn't Tom say he did a 3 player free for all? So larger conflicts might be doable, maybe with larger and/or non-square boards.

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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i should specify, i meant combat encounters against enemies that the players cant use without feeling cheap

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 9:38 PM

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i mean after a certain point scaling up would likely become a bit unmangeable lol

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though i suppose like nothing keeps you from like having a "gm" controlling multiple necros

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and like modifying the scale of their teams or what have you to oppose the players

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 9:41 PM

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If I were to do it, I'd probably try to just stuff everyone into 1 squad. So like, each player gets a Necromancer +1 point of units.

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 9:42 PM

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hmm

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i could see that sorta working

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it would take experimenting to really see what works

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 9:43 PM

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It also lets you set up asymmetric encounters by flooding more non-Necromancer units on the GM side. Since I think Necromancers are supposed to be worth ~2 points-ish? But yeah, hard to tell without knowing all the rules and without play experience

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 9:44 PM

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def

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cuz like cut down player ability to have blorbos too much and it starts to lose the necromancer fantasy

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 9:44 PM

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i feel like necros would be independent of unit slots

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 9:45 PM

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silent sluice Didn't Tom say he did a 3 player free for all? So larger conflicts might be doab...

Tom also offhandedly mentioned something about solo and coop rules for it at some point

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 9:45 PM

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nice

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 9:45 PM

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Tsundere abhorrer cooperating

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 9:46 PM

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cute!

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 9:46 PM

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primal nest Tom also offhandedly mentioned something about solo and coop rules for it at som...

#tabletop-discussion message

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Bwa

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 9:47 PM

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Later™️

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 9:49 PM

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a campaign mode would be cool

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cuz tbh this is competing to be my second most fave tom setting
like its fighting with k6bd a bit
with lancer still at first lol

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like its in allot of ways tlt with tom spice which is hilarious pronounced me bait

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 9:51 PM

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I know one of my buds prefers coop games over PvP so that could be fun for them

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 9:52 PM

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Power of friendship. Alongside crimes against nature and violence

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 9:56 PM

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i do find it funny that me and tom are seemingly on opposite sides of the metal head spectrum ngl

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cuz he is seemingly big into doom/black

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while im into power/stoner

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though ill say i do like allot of his picks in doom/black metal

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also doom/black does have allot of kick ass names for songs and albums lol

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 10:01 PM

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On the subject of a maleghast rpg, he did mention that he's thinking about it in one hangout stream.

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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jukes

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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Though he did say it would be a super lightweight system, like 10 pages max.

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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i am aggressively ok with lightweight

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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honestly

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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i even prefer that

silent sluice Oct 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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just staple Maleghast to Blades

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:02 PM

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especially with something this wild and high powered

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idk how well thatd work ngl

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like necromancers feel too like powerful for what i understand blades does best generally

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 10:03 PM

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If I remember he did say putting ratings to verbs to interact with the world.

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:03 PM

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tbh itd mesh well with a like powered up version of black hack almost

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:03 PM

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vocal star If I remember he did say putting ratings to verbs to interact with the world.

ratings to verbs?

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like actions that you have some sorta rating scores to modify?

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 10:04 PM

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I'm guessing like what icon has going on with the narrative system

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:04 PM

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oh so the somewhat more in depth version of lancers narrative actions

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or at least thats what i remember of that system in icon

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which is very like in teh school of black hack osr

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which im a big fan of

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like narrative over crunch would be pretty ideal for me for like a "ttrpg" in this setting

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cuz it removes the like gming overhead nightmare of having a party of weirdos who ostensibly all can summon/control npcs lol

vocal star Oct 30, 2023, 10:06 PM

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I do want to clarify ge only brought it up as a possibility, and I don't think he committed to anything.

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:06 PM

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for sure

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like im not building any real expectations

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just expressing that tbh it being light weight if he did it would be a positive to me lol

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:08 PM

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to take a narrative action, play out a skirmish (this one's a metaphor)

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choose one other player to play the representation of your obstacle, they construct a symbolically appropriate army

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 10:12 PM

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So, it seems deadsouls kill souls and are the only ones who do this.
So my guess is that the obliterate Carcass do is explode souls out of the battlefield with their shots. Or literally blowing them to Kingdom Come

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 PM

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well they more like feed souls to their god

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 PM

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it's like uhhhhh
The difference between "explode them to the point where they can't be put them back together" and "they are now, in an eschatological sense, annihilated"

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 PM

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they like ostensibly are the only ones who can like fully kill stuff

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 PM

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why am i so easily eaten up by hype

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now i just really really want to know what the other factions do

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i want to know about the wacky combos i can conjure up

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 PM

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pale echo it's like uhhhhh The difference between "explode them to the point where they ca...

well ghosts may also just exist too lol

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 PM

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i especially want to know about the abhorrers, theyre my type of faction

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:15 PM

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We've got like, a few days before the book comes out, at most

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 10:15 PM

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nova mason well they more like feed souls to their god

Isn't their thing that their weapons have a dark destructive power?

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 PM

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sorry for the nerd question made by nerds and for nerds btw, but has tom commented on how we get access to the book? is it patreon exclusive, a one time buy, free in its entirety?

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 PM

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It's going to be posted for free, at least for a couple game modes

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 PM

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if i had someone to play with and community reception to it was good id gladly pay for this

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 PM

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humble citrus Isn't their thing that their weapons have a dark destructive power?

well that power is moer or less them condemning you to their god

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 PM

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humble citrus Isn't their thing that their weapons have a dark destructive power?

They also feed souls to their god

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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like thats what causes the true death ostensibly

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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hmm. I guess that makes Deadsouls and Abhorrers two different kinds of anti-undeath

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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sorta yeah

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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"eat the soul" vs "restore the balance"

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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ones less a decree of their creed and more a reasult of its powers source

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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which fits aesthetically too

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:18 PM

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like the deadsouls necros dont want to die

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cuz they know their deaths suck

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cuz theyve like pre true deathed for benefits

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:18 PM

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simply never lose thinkaboutit

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:18 PM

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true death with benefits

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 10:19 PM

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The description up there says their weapons scour the essence of their foes, but doesn't mention their god there

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:19 PM

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its very eldritch cultist vibes

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:19 PM

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humble citrus The description up there says their weapons scour the essence of their foes, but...

i mean i feel thats like being aggressively raw in reading

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cuz its sorta implied true death is done via the god eating you

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:20 PM

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for ease of reference
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164643959721693184/1168602008740184124/Screenshot_2023-10-30_132651.png?ex=65525c6e&is=653fe76e&hm=ccba9a4a60d3bed2dc1b7a6339c9304a60fe9dca64758fb2f91d546fb752ac63&

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:20 PM

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cuz like they have been pre eaten and nothingness awaits them if they die

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:20 PM

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True Death they inflict in battle feels like the same thing as the "second death" their own souls experience

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:21 PM

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yeah

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theres is just sorta "the cultists have made a pact with the dark god to get eaten last"

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sorta energy

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 10:21 PM

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Yeah, it's a reading that makes sense. Just doesn't seem confirmed so I'm on the fence

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:21 PM

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fair

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like im not so strong feeling of it that i need to sit on my hill with it

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but its def the reading im inclined too

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cuz its metal as fuck

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just out here like

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 10:22 PM

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I'm jist pedantic sometimez

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/time-to-meet-god-gif-10583113

Tenor

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like i just love the idea that everytime they cause true death they say some shit like this

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like imagine a deadsouls just getting in an abhorrers face like "are you ready to meet god?"

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:23 PM

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extremely intrigued by the damage types

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"devil damage"

lapis willow Oct 30, 2023, 10:25 PM

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been hyping this shit up at my local shop community since the early faction art reveals. V excited to throw together a few squads, build a board, and get into it. I'm hopeful that there will be some campaign lite rules or smth, but we'll see ig!

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 10:31 PM

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Devil dmg sounds like divine dmg

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Curse dmg is interesting tho

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:37 PM

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primal nest Devil dmg sounds like divine dmg

okay yeah that's probably it

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 10:38 PM

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Makes sense cuz it’s on DOOM

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:43 PM

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pale echo hmm. I guess that makes Deadsouls and Abhorrers two different kinds of anti-unde...

so hyped for Tom to crush my rapidly-developing headcanons about Deadsouls and Abhorrers

primal nest Oct 30, 2023, 10:43 PM

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Meanwhile over here at goregrinders hq

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https://tenor.com/view/fire-robot-wars-burning-gif-14073420

Tenor

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 10:45 PM

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deasouls and abhorrers are not enemies. in fact they are kissing, making out sloppy style etc

timber onyx Oct 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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Enemies to lovers but its factionwide

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 10:46 PM

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i like the idea of abhorrers being terrified of deadsouls

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cuz i assume abhorrers have some sorta god but its more like vague or etc

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and the deadsouls are just like "wanna meet mine?"

uneven prawn Oct 30, 2023, 10:48 PM

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warlocks vs clerics

pale echo Oct 30, 2023, 10:49 PM

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timber onyx Enemies to lovers but its factionwide

I was thinking there was a schism

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"hey look we found even better anti-undead tech. this is good right. aren't you happy with this"

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 10:59 PM

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nova mason or at least thats what i remember of that system in icon

icon's system is basically a bitd hack

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i guess fitd

regal krakenBOT Oct 30, 2023, 11:03 PM

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Tom only makes PbtA games so it being another FitD gamemake sence

nova mason Oct 30, 2023, 11:13 PM

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i mean hes made like two games that arent either of those things lol

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three if we count maleghast

willow gust Oct 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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I wonder if the igorri wolf thing will be called 'weirdwolf'

regal krakenBOT Oct 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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I can only think of four finished games tome has done, counting Maleghist and icon as being finished. But Icon is definataly PbtA as it is a FitD game or at least FitD inspierd. and the ame for lancer at least when your useing the bonds system.

unde2aker (Caliban/Dwarf Simp) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164643959721693184 message) i mean hes made like two games that arent either of those things lol

whole dagger Oct 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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⌛and if your wonding whare we got the idea of BitD/FditD as being PbtA it's iteraly the BitD book it's self

naive glacier Oct 30, 2023, 11:50 PM

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if i do a maleghast rpg it will be a side thing

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it will be very rules light and my own system which i have had cooking a while which is d6 based and very simple (the GUN system but a little more refined)

patent steeple Oct 30, 2023, 11:53 PM

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let him cook

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i think the setting is very cool

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would def do a fun mini campaign in it

humble citrus Oct 30, 2023, 11:57 PM

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I finally realized it. The city is a cooking pot on top of hell.

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 12:03 AM

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thinking about a maleghast blorbo...

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but cant draw

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 12:03 AM

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consider heroforge?

primal flame Oct 31, 2023, 12:03 AM

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Never too late to start

humble citrus Oct 31, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Keep reading "magnagnostica"

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 12:05 AM

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i could always just do my normal shit

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which is browse for fanart on safebooru and write up some backstory shit

nova mason Oct 31, 2023, 12:26 AM

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regal kraken I can only think of four finished games tome has done, counting Maleghist and ic...

gun, maleghast, and lancer

nova mason Oct 31, 2023, 12:26 AM

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naive glacier it will be very rules light and my own system which i have had cooking a while w...

fuck yeah i love the bones of GUN so thatd be an absolute vibe

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literally my go to system for samurai style stuf is the KEN hack of that game lol

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cuz it does my preferred flavor of like kurosawa esque samurai the best of anything ive found

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 1:25 AM

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humble citrus Keep reading "magnagnostica"

something something le-sad-demiurge.jpeg

jovial tulip Oct 31, 2023, 1:39 AM

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Alright someone give me the rundown here, because of course I too want to throw money at whatever Tom is making this time

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 1:42 AM

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necromancer skirmish game

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you control one of six factions in funny dice chess

jovial tulip Oct 31, 2023, 1:46 AM

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Oh.
Me like

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 1:47 AM

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we dont have all the specifics (yet)

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but it seems to be d6 pools for attacks

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you can buy upgrades for your units and your hero unit

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each faction has 5 units

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your hero unit can be kitted out with unique abilities, traits, and special abilities that utilize a resource called SOUL

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which are interrupts

jovial tulip Oct 31, 2023, 2:11 AM

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Literally tom making a skirmish game has already sold me on this

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 2:35 AM

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oh my god we're so close lol

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ive worked on this game no joke probably about 10 hr today

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 2:35 AM

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intensifeyes

jovial tulip Oct 31, 2023, 2:35 AM

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Good heavens

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 2:35 AM

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I have a few things left to do but I am going to polish them off tomorrow morning

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just putting the scenario stuff together

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gonna do ToC and deal with the export tomorrow

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this has been an absolutely ridiculous amount of work

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but i've done a lot of it in about 10 days so

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 2:38 AM

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Extremely impressive

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 2:38 AM

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jovial tulip Oct 31, 2023, 2:39 AM

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This is

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So pretty..

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 AM

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very nice berserkers

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 2:54 AM

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Do we know the colors of each of the factions?

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 2:55 AM

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yep

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u can see it in the fighter select post

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one sec

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https://fxtwitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1711798152116809942?s=20

FixTweet / FixupX

112 💬 970 🔁 7,018 ❤️ 177,266 👁️

evil deadman (@Orbitaldropkick)

CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTER

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 2:55 AM

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ty

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 2:56 AM

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carcass: pink
goregrinders: yellow
igorri: purple
gargamox: green
deadsoul: blue
abhorrers: yellw

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 2:58 AM

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oh god

craggy iron Oct 31, 2023, 2:58 AM

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goregrinders look more like orange

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 2:58 AM

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it's a colorblindness test

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the goregrinders are orange yeah

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 3:02 AM

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ur right

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i am blind

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 3:07 AM

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ok chiefs calling it for tonight

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I got to do the fancy art titles

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(like 5ish things)

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then I have to do some portraits

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then ToC and check the export

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anyway this absolutely should release tomorrow

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 3:08 AM

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naive glacier

da boiz

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 3:08 AM

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you do great work Tom

umbral cipher Oct 31, 2023, 3:29 AM

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naive glacier

CHAINSAWMAAAN

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 3:54 AM

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im so excited

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cant wait to play this with my friend

silk storm Oct 31, 2023, 3:55 AM

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Pay your tithes to the Corpse Piler and start fueling the infernal engines of the Hype Train, lads

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 4:26 AM

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I am sacrificing my sanity to the google sheet gods as we speak

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:30 AM

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ia! ia!

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 4:30 AM

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elmorise

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 4:31 AM

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gonna have to figure out how to run this

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roll20?

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it seems like thats how tom runs it

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 4:33 AM

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I think the hardest part is probably tracking upgrades

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 4:42 AM

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if ur doing it on r20 u can prob have the upgrade as a tooltip

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 4:47 AM

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Yeah

steep anchor Oct 31, 2023, 4:57 AM

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r20 or like

I'm kinda tempted to make a physical board and models for maleghast

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 4:57 AM

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dew it

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 5:13 AM

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i just realized

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with the tokens and shit

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u could def make custom status icons

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 5:21 AM

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the maleghast blorbo is forming

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 5:23 AM

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i need to see abhorrers

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especially their necro upgrades

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 5:24 AM

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icon chanter vs maleghast abhorrer
I can be ur angel or ur angel

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 5:25 AM

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I wanna know what’s up with mox and slime time

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 5:25 AM

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mutationssss

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 5:25 AM

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and if I can make it go boom

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 5:59 AM

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Do we know if heresy is going to let you take upgrades on your Necromancer from different factions?

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 5:59 AM

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Probably

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:00 AM

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oh i completely missed that

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12 upgrade points

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2 upgrades max per unit

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:01 AM

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silent sluice Do we know if heresy is going to let you take upgrades on your Necromancer from ...

eh i dont think so

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i think heresy will be cross unit only

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:01 AM

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for my sanity

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I hope so

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 6:02 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164643959721693184/1168574382730379394/Screenshot_2023-10-30_113707.png?ex=655242b3&is=653fcdb3&hm=119251c8b52e9756f78b7604661bdcedac2fd7452cf493b9704d7687a84157d8&

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:03 AM

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patent steeple 2 upgrades max per unit

Does this restriction also apply to the Necromancer? I only saw this message which kinda suggested otherwise. #1164643959721693184 message

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 6:03 AM

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Several of these have faction "exclusive" mechanics

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:03 AM

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silent sluice Does this restriction also apply to the Necromancer? I only saw this message whi...

i do not believe so

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:03 AM

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Well it's the special mechanic, but I don't think it necessarily has to be "exclusive"

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:04 AM

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from what we've seen of faction specific tags

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i think it could go either way

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:04 AM

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Which, if you mix units from heresy, you'd have to deal with it anyways

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 6:04 AM

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pale echo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164643959721693184/1168574382730379394/S...

Devil Bullet+ STG intensifeyes

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:04 AM

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but the from what ive seen it makes me think upgrades are unit exclusive

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so to speak

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:05 AM

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yeah

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:05 AM

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if u commit heresy and switch up necro upgrades

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that opens it up for like

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some insane combos

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that might not be intended

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idk

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this is just speculation

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:05 AM

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I'm just talking about the Necromancer things on the Necro specifically

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Like going cross faction

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:05 AM

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yeah i think those are necro specific

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just like regular act upgrades

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mixing units but not necros sounds reasonable

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:06 AM

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I just wasn't sure if Tom has said anything about it one way or another

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:06 AM

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i dont think he has, im just talking out of my ass

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:07 AM

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I'm trying to figure out a good way to set up the sheet, and I'm stuck on the Necromancer

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:07 AM

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its hard to tell without knowing if theres a hard limit on necro upgrades

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i think

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 6:07 AM

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we are getting the game tomorrow

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:07 AM

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I was thinking about just displaying every upgrade available and letting people check off the ones they want to add to their Necro, but if all the factions have roughly the same amount of upgrades, that'd add up to ~100

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:08 AM

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it would just be 6-7 slots wouldnt it?

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assuming no necro mixing

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but if there IS necro mixing

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yeah

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if each upgrade is 1 point and ASSUMING you can dump all your points on ur necro

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thats a total of 6/6 or 7/5 max

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i think

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:09 AM

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the units are the easy part, I'm already pretty much done with them. The only question is if you can mix and match different types of Thralls, which would influence the layout and how many slots I put in the sheet.

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:10 AM

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what do u mean

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:11 AM

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Am I misunderstanding something? I was under the impression that unit slots and upgrade points are separate

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 6:11 AM

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primal nest *the maleghast blorbo is forming*

Man I am so rusty at this art thing

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:11 AM

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patent steeple thats a total of 6/6 or 7/5 max

like I don't know what this means

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 6:11 AM

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Making decent progress tho

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:12 AM

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silent sluice Am I misunderstanding something? I was under the impression that unit slots and ...

that was my assumption as well

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:12 AM

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silent sluice like I don't know what this means

so assuming you spend all 12 upgrade points on your necro, thats 6 act upgrades and 6 soul upgrades

timber onyx Oct 31, 2023, 6:12 AM

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pale echo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164643959721693184/1168574382730379394/S...

Bonsai metal gear

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 6:12 AM

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maybe i should make a necromancer who's just a flagrant kglw reference, get indulgent with it. perhaps a lizard-man who eats witches with the ultimate aim of becoming a world-destroying dragon, or an immortal, suicidal cyborg who has become fixated upon the ability to vomit as a goal

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:12 AM

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or 7 act upgrades (all 7) and 5 soul upgrades

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:13 AM

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oh

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I'm just gonna smush all the upgrades together to reduce the amount of empty space and label the individual upgrades accordingly

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:14 AM

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that makes sense

prime portal Oct 31, 2023, 6:14 AM

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Goregrinder who's literally just a robot pretending to be undead

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And learned necromancy to fit in

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:15 AM

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silent sluice I'm just gonna smush all the upgrades together to reduce the amount of empty spa...

idk how ur setting it up but any chance u can group stuff together to make it collapseable?

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 6:16 AM

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prime portal Goregrinder who's literally just a robot pretending to be undead

who says pretend? Octothorpe Let Necromancy Work On Robots 1997

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:16 AM

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I mean yeah but it's not my style tbh

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:16 AM

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fair!

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sorry to bother u bout that

prime portal Oct 31, 2023, 6:17 AM

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languid lotus who says pretend? Octothorpe Let Necromancy Work On Robots 1997

True

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:17 AM

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it's no trouble! It's still a possibility

prime portal Oct 31, 2023, 6:17 AM

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i even (sorta) have art for the occassion!

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 6:17 AM

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could be made out of assorted e-waste

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the technological equivalent of frankenstein's monster

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:19 AM

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patent steeple what do u mean

About Thralls, the wording doesn't specify if they have to be taken in matching pairs or if you could mix them between factions with Heresy. If the latter, then I'd need more slots on the sheet.

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:20 AM

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i think its a safe assumption that thralls are a 2:1 deal

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of the same unit

lethal trench Oct 31, 2023, 6:20 AM

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I'd assume pairs, but yeah it's not entirely clear

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:21 AM

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oh god its icon preview hours all over again

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but yes, my RAI reading is two of the same unit

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:21 AM

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we'll have to see I guess

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:21 AM

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very true

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 6:22 AM

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I imagine Tom will be in crunch mode tomorrow so idk if he's gonna do an editing pass or anything.

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:23 AM

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the way he was speaking read to me like he was 90% done

craggy iron Oct 31, 2023, 6:28 AM

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in vibe alone I am being drawn towards the Goregrinders, though I'll need to see more faction blurbs before making something concrete

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 7:11 AM

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Grinders look cool

night hedge Oct 31, 2023, 11:23 AM

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pale echo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164643959721693184/1168574382730379394/S...

i’m looking at clutch reload, devil bullet and unholy sixgun if multiple upgrades can be taken

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i’m just imaging my carcass necromancer with one of these just going dakka dakka dakka across the board

real bane Oct 31, 2023, 11:49 AM

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All-Sniper team, hear me out

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 12:05 PM

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Enjoy getting CCd

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Gore grinders just walk up to you

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 12:53 PM

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today is the day

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the devil has made me his strongest warrior

glacial junco Oct 31, 2023, 12:57 PM

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Fueled by unholy magic truely

inland frost Oct 31, 2023, 3:10 PM

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Maximum evilman reaching maximum evilness

night hedge Oct 31, 2023, 4:00 PM

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ready to maleghast in the magnagothica

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:03 PM

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hypegothica releaseghast

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 4:04 PM

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Ultragothica Hyperghast

umbral cipher Oct 31, 2023, 4:04 PM

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mangagothica malewife

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:05 PM

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mansplain manipulate maleghast

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 4:05 PM

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eat hot chip and maleghast

bleak folio Oct 31, 2023, 4:07 PM

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she magna on my gothica till i maleghast

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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[incorrect buzzer]

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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she magnagothica on my maleghast till i
Traceback: most recent call last: function til_i_scrooge_joke requires exactly 3 arguments (2 provided)

balmy falcon Oct 31, 2023, 4:09 PM

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live laugh leghast

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:09 PM

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gaslight gatekeep galeghast

glacial junco Oct 31, 2023, 4:10 PM

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Magnagothica standard

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:11 PM

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open are the double doors of anzenmezzeron, unlocked are its bolts

balmy falcon Oct 31, 2023, 4:11 PM

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care cuddle C.A.R.C.A.S.S

glacial junco Oct 31, 2023, 4:17 PM

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My favorite part is when the necromancer popped out and said ITS MAGNAGOTHICA TIME, and then maleghasted all over them

rich scarab Oct 31, 2023, 4:34 PM

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languid lotus she magnagothica on my maleghast till i `Traceback: most recent call last: funct...

She magna on my gothica until I maleghast

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:36 PM

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[EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]

rich scarab Oct 31, 2023, 4:36 PM

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:(

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 4:37 PM

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nothing personnel

cinder isle Oct 31, 2023, 4:52 PM

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rich scarab She magna on my gothica until I maleghast

oh, whoops, oooohhh, i dropped my MALEGHAST for my MAGNA GOTH

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 5:01 PM

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at this rate tom's gonna change his mind about releasing maleghast

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lmao

arctic raven Oct 31, 2023, 5:04 PM

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I am looking forward to the GREAT GOTHY BAD SPOOK

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 5:04 PM

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big goth bad ghost

silk storm Oct 31, 2023, 5:22 PM

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My hype for big goth bad ghost is far too high

balmy falcon Oct 31, 2023, 5:26 PM

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"necromancer and their friend groups great big adventure" has definatly got me hyped

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 5:28 PM

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tactical skeleton incoming

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 5:28 PM

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i wanna play this game so i can be a necromancer beating the everloving shit out of another necromancer who is also a real human player

rich scarab Oct 31, 2023, 5:29 PM

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I can't wait to enter a game of Maleghast where the victor gets to really kill and necromantically rise their opponent as a thrall

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 5:30 PM

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Tom digitally scanned the Book of the Dead and put it into pdf format at the back of the book

night hedge Oct 31, 2023, 6:02 PM

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thinking about physically printing it out once i get it, i’ll need a spooky book to put it in as well ofc

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should i like, email to ask for permission to?

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 6:33 PM

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i assume it's fine so long as you're not, like, printing copies to sell. even then, depends on the license tom releases it under

silk storm Oct 31, 2023, 6:39 PM

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I don't see why anyone would really have an issue with that

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Tom isn't Nintendo lol

uneven prawn Oct 31, 2023, 6:48 PM

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the massif press license for lancer is pretty much just "dont reprint official content and dont be a dick" right?

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tom seems kinda chill with copyright stuff

nova mason Oct 31, 2023, 6:55 PM

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This isn't a massif product. But generally he's chill yes lol

urban forge Oct 31, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Massif = Tom + Miguel (and maybe freelancers?)

cinder isle Oct 31, 2023, 6:57 PM

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lotta freelancers

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 6:58 PM

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i assume tom wont make a big fuss if u wanna print the book for urself

prime portal Oct 31, 2023, 7:02 PM

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aIT;'S OUT

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IT';S OUT

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https://www.patreon.com/posts/92031375

Patreon

MAGNAGOTHICA: MALEGHAST | ABBADON

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naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 7:02 PM

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its out bitch

prime portal Oct 31, 2023, 7:02 PM

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videogames

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 7:03 PM

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also here: https://tombloom.itch.io/magnagothica-maleghast

itch.io

MAGNAGOTHICA: MALEGHAST by Tombloom

NECROMANCER TACTICS

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at a higher price

glacial junco Oct 31, 2023, 7:03 PM

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I'm already subbed but damn I'll get it on itch just to pay the 6.66 price

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Thats too good a bit to ignore

real bane Oct 31, 2023, 7:04 PM

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lmao

prime portal Oct 31, 2023, 7:04 PM

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Tom I have the most important questions

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Can I use fleshwarping to create my Fursona

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 7:05 PM

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nowegothica releaseghast

prime portal Oct 31, 2023, 7:07 PM

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Brb going to Ultrahell

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~~Also there are 69 pages~~

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inland frost Oct 31, 2023, 7:15 PM

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And now Tom can sleep for 2 days straight

glacial junco Oct 31, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Oh i guess Colony of Birchmen being a soundtrack listing makes my house choice real easy for me (Also i love lycan)

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:20 PM

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oh i missed the drop

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downloaddddinnggg

rich scarab Oct 31, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Someone should pin the Itch link before it gets buried

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 7:27 PM

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naive glacier also here: https://tombloom.itch.io/magnagothica-maleghast

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:28 PM

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i love this tom, these sorta diagrams are what more systems need

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abhorrer chads we are so back

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my god igorri is awesome

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 7:30 PM

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scalpels are basically swords

tired salmon Oct 31, 2023, 7:30 PM

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patent steeple abhorrer chads we are so back

well hey this is material i can specifically steal for ICON

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since my favorite Titan is The Holy Body

willow gust Oct 31, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Abhorres are cool

lethal trench Oct 31, 2023, 7:32 PM

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So there's super armor interesting

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 7:32 PM

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no thats their arm

lethal trench Oct 31, 2023, 7:34 PM

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Also defence value 2+ is very funny

keen ravine Oct 31, 2023, 7:34 PM

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patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:35 PM

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@silent sluice heresy allows you to take abilities outside of your house, but its an optional rule so my suggestion would just be like, making open spot for it or allowing people to add more rows for heresy abilities

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ultrahell heresy seems like insanity

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its amazing

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armor types is interesting

tired salmon Oct 31, 2023, 7:37 PM

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big fan of the Gargamox fluff

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:38 PM

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a good medium

tired salmon Oct 31, 2023, 7:38 PM

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that there's a Filth Devil who just gives beggars and gutter trash necromancer powers without a pact

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to shit on the other necromancer factions' hubris

smoky pecan Oct 31, 2023, 7:39 PM

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Stinky poop devil

steep anchor Oct 31, 2023, 7:39 PM

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Common sense dictates that a Corpse is created whenever something dies, but I’m not seeing it stated anywhere?

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:39 PM

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i cant control f stuff but lemme check

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 7:40 PM

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its under defenses

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hp, etc

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units that are slain without being obliterated leave a corpse

steep anchor Oct 31, 2023, 7:41 PM

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Ahh, there we go. Cheers

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:41 PM

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pg 14 for reference

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thanks

keen ravine Oct 31, 2023, 7:42 PM

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CARCASS is the best

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Ultraviolence doorkicker skeletons

tired salmon Oct 31, 2023, 7:43 PM

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naive glacier units that are slain without being obliterated leave a corpse

so if a 2x2 corpse gets used by an ability and removed, that just schlorps up all four spaces of that corpse token, yeah? no treating it as 4 separate corpse tokens like you're taking bites out of the big dead guy?

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:43 PM

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patent steeple pg 14 for reference

thats what it says right here

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corpses from 2x2 units take up 2x2 spaces

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if there was a 3x3 unit it would take up a 3x3 space

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deadsouls is my runner up

night hedge Oct 31, 2023, 7:48 PM

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6.66 lets gooooo

balmy temple Oct 31, 2023, 7:57 PM

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Well gonna have to grab this

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 7:58 PM

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5 slots for 1v1s, 4 slots for 2v2s is pretty nice

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means you can reasonably fill your entire house roster

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or go half and half more or less if ur doing a heresy game

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 8:02 PM

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we tried playing w/ 6 slots and it felt like too much

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5 and 4 feel pretty solid

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:04 PM

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makes sense, i think having the necro as the focal point objective wise is pretty cool

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i havent played other skirmish games though

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so idk how common that is

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 8:15 PM

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patent steeple <@242656380102639617> heresy allows you to take abilities outside of your house,...

The way I've done it is you just have 15 upgrade slots on the Necromancer, then on the side there's a giant merged cell that will fill itself in as you pick upgrades.

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:15 PM

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that fucks hard

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heresy is an optional rule anyways so it should work fine

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font is super cool too

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im also just

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really in love with how armor works

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in this game

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Grabbing it now. How does it work?

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:19 PM

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theres 3 types of armor

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ARMOR, WARD, and SUPER ARMOR

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each type reduces damage by 1

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 8:19 PM

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yo your army is called a "black mass"? nice

timber onyx Oct 31, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Can i play an all tyrant force

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Nope

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Limit one per mass

timber onyx Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Bah

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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ARMOR is for physical (anything not toxic, fire, curse, and holy)
WARD is for anything thats not physical (toxic, fire, curse, and holy)
SUPER is for everything (physical, toxic, fire, curse, and holy)

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deadsouls have lots of units with WARD

hushed yoke Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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So wait Skeleton C can see her, but she can't see him?

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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armor reduces untyped damage, ward reduces typed damage, super armor reduces both, devil damage bypasses all armor types

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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abhorrers have a couple with SUPER

primal nest Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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patent steeple ARMOR is for physical (anything not toxic, fire, curse, and holy) WARD is for an...

Oh interesting

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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That’s a typo

hushed yoke Oct 31, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Ok

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Was curious

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She can see A & C not A & B yes?

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 8:21 PM

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She should be able to see A and C

hushed yoke Oct 31, 2023, 8:21 PM

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Gotcha

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Ensuring

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 8:21 PM

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patent steeple ARMOR is for physical (anything not toxic, fire, curse, and holy) WARD is for an...

ooooh

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:21 PM

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but armor is always just -1 dmg

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its just what gets by it

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worth noting that plague bypasses armor

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the line is a great way of visualizing it

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wrt cover

sleek nebula Oct 31, 2023, 8:26 PM

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O SHIT IT'S OUT

sinful kelp Oct 31, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Important question: how is the game's name pronounced

feral hearth Oct 31, 2023, 8:29 PM

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the most fun way you can think of

languid lotus Oct 31, 2023, 8:30 PM

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i assume mag-nuh-goth-ik-uh mal-uh-ghast. i don't have a good enough grasp of ipa to provide it

pale echo Oct 31, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Mag-nah-goth-ica Mal-eh-ghast

pure ether Oct 31, 2023, 8:31 PM

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Penny Maleghast

sinful kelp Oct 31, 2023, 8:32 PM

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Gotcha. Mal-eh or Mal-uh Ghast makes more sense than Male Ghast

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:32 PM

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mal-eh ghast

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for me

night hedge Oct 31, 2023, 8:32 PM

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serker wit da formation for today

sinful kelp Oct 31, 2023, 8:32 PM

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I love that its released on Halloween for $6.66

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:33 PM

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me running my abhorrer list with all 4 sword arts

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debating whether i would want winter rose or corpse violet stance

uneven prawn Oct 31, 2023, 8:35 PM

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tyrants sound like they're supposed to be this objectively powerful focal point of any black mass based on their name, size and limit of only 1 per black mass. but reading over them makes it feel like there are plenty of game plans where you would rather have another copy of a different unit (wanna make this clear that im positive to this, i dislike the idea of a unit you technically dont have to pick but gimps you massively if you don't)

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 8:35 PM

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Yeah they are just another unit

silent sluice Oct 31, 2023, 8:35 PM

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Does this mean that instead of upgrading units individually, you upgrade all units of the same type when you spend dark power?

naive glacier Oct 31, 2023, 8:35 PM

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They are hard to move around and easy to hit

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Yes that’s what is says, a few times actually

half turtle Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Okay so

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What's the exact vibe of this game

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Is it still tactics heavy?

deft marsh Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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yo this looks sick, just got directed to this thread

cinder isle Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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half turtle Is it still tactics heavy?

necro-apocalyptic skirmish wargame

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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half turtle Is it still tactics heavy?

its a skirmish game

cinder isle Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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it's not a ttrpg

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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so like...a wargame but smaller?

night hedge Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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i love the necromancer upgrades

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:36 PM

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in scale

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if im understanding the genre space right

deft marsh Oct 31, 2023, 8:37 PM

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think like... uh... Warhammer's kill team is a popular skirmish scale game i think

night hedge Oct 31, 2023, 8:37 PM

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all of them whip ass

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:37 PM

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yeah

cinder isle Oct 31, 2023, 8:37 PM

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ehh, i don't really consider skirmish games not wargames

patent steeple Oct 31, 2023, 8:37 PM

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kill team im familiar with

half turtle Oct 31, 2023, 8:37 PM

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Got it

#MAGNAGOTHICA MALEGHAST

forbidden bone tactics