How much is padding depends on your definition of padding
#Terrarcraft (Minecraft/Terraria and such)
ember bay
candid dock
so like in the before times gregtech was a addon for industrial craft that added atleast 1 -2 more steps to every process it touched and increased cost of everything with little to no change on functionality, thats what i call padding
ember bay
That's the entire modpack, and working on methods to reduce as much manual interference of that as possible
candid dock
so its all padding?
ember bay
Though it is mostly that you have a bunch of steps to make a machine, at which point the machine lets you make things more easily or opens new options
I mean if that's your definition of padding
It's a pack about every part of the game being a grind to steadily build resources and an industry at every level
Sounds like it isn't for you
candid dock
yeah no i hate that kind of pack
ember bay
It is a dedicated MP pack, doing it SP is a lot
Granted it is basically impossible to speed through, so you can't really get left behind
And it is one of the most competent and well made modpacks I've seen for its kind
As an example, it is a 1.7.10 modpack that has rebuilt Forge/Minecraft to work on Java 19
It also has an insanely dense quest book to walk you through the entire progression
candid dock
looking into it, it has bits and pieces that sound interesting, but the main premise being distilled down into "we have intentionally made this as much of a grind as possible" is very off putting.
ember bay
Yeah, insanely grindy, not because they hate you, but because the devs love that grind
cyan raptor
they have custom mods and custom forks/backports of some mods
ember bay
I have been unable to get out of the Steam Age so far
And next time I pick it up again I'll probably start over
candid dock
and i'm betting it gatekeeps ae2 into the lategame or something
ember bay
I'm not sure it has ae2
candid dock
it does
ember bay
Ah yeah, it's late to my knowledge. There are other mods to fill the space until then
candid dock
yeah, nah then, if i want grindy i'll do factorio space exploration
candid dock
space exploration is one person
and a lot of its mechanics are unfortunatly placeholders
ember bay
For "modpack focused on decentralized transit" I don't think there's much
At least nothing that enforces it
If you like create, there are several modpacks focused on automating Create
candid dock
i cant vibe with packs that just focus on create
ember bay
Create: Above and Beyond, Create: Astral, Create: something
A weird example, but there is Blightfall which has ores localized to certain regions of the prebuilt map
Very much not an automation pack
Closer to hard-core survival
rancid spire
i once tried something called genesis
ember bay
On the Minecolonies/Millenaire thought, I think I like the idea of running a village, but prefer it to be built on its own for the most part. My involvement is prioritization of buildings, but it mostly handles itself
Also I like that the Millenaire miners don't actually mine
I can't explain it, but I don't like how the Minecolony Miners actually create mineshafts
wise owl
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just gonna put this here
i'm hungry
apologies if this is considered as spam
round kestrel
Ghost flesh is spicy
cerulean cargo
That'd contradict with it being grief flavored no?
rancid spire
lapis parcel
Does anyone have recommendations for an early game modpack? My group tends to not really go into late game content - usually we hang out a lot in the overworld and nether is still pretty scary
candid dock
if you're unfamiliar with mods you could try the FTB university series, teaches you how mods work and stuff so you can get comfortable with them
lapis parcel
I poked around a bit but I think I'd prefer more "vanilla plus" style mods
rancid spire
one thing i rcomend is
lapis parcel
Which seemed like they were kind of getting drowned out by the rest of the FTB university mods
rancid spire
fabousouly optimized
lapis parcel
Yeah, I've got that
rancid spire
thats what im playing but added stuff i wanted like map
and a few of vanilla tweeks datapacks
rancid spire
im working on a large tree how does it look so far
spice iris
Anyone have any recs for survival/crafting sort of stuff I can play with Sukispawn? We kinda did minecraft to death, we beat terraria, and we're about to beat Grounded
rancid spire
the only things i can think of as maybes
is vintagestory,vahliem, and heavily modded minecraft
candid dock
if it goes on sale maybe stationeers
like wait for atleast a 40-50% sale
if you like zombie games 7 days to die can be good actually no thats probably age inappropriate (not for the zombie aspect but rather stuff like some of the zombies are wearing backless evening dresses and the poi list does include strip clubs)
Project zombie might be a good one though
ancient estuary
Raft? Unless first person animal attacks would too intense for kiddos
ember bay
You can turn off the animals
round kestrel
round kestrel
Anyone have any recs for survival/crafting sort of stuff I can play with Sukispa...
Space Engineers
It’s space LEGO with mining
There are no monsters unless you turn them on on certain planets
There are pirates and NPC factions though
candid dock
how is the npc stuff in SE now days, last i played (admittedly a number of years ago) they either did nothing or deleted you before you knew they were there
round kestrel
In space you can avoid pirates if you don’t approach their signals, same planet side for the most part
The wolves and spiders come at random constantly but can easily be dealt with by using a turret or two
There are survival mods that utilize them too
For animal protein
I use a NPC overhaul mod tho
wise owl
uhhh
is it okay if I ask for some troubleshooting help here?
just shooting this in here if anyone can help:
Whenever I try to open any modpack through prism launcher, it shows this error in the logs before the thing boots up, causing a crash
Instance update failed because: Component metadata update task failed while downloading from remote server:
One or more subtasks failed
if anyone knows a fix, i'd greatly appreciate it
(playing on mac btw)
wheat helm
here's a weird question
what do y'all do when you run out of things to do on a minecraft world?
i've been playing on one i started a while ago and enjoying it but at some point i finished like, building my 'main base' to a degree that i was satisfied with, got all the gear i needed, killed the dragon as needed, etc
and i've been occasionally adding new farms to it for the fun of building them but i keep going "man i don't know what to do with myself" even when I want to play the game
candid dock
i start another mod pack
wheat helm
rn my only 'goal' left is to get the last armor trim, but trying to get it has been suffering
I have gotten so many copies of the Flow armor trim and zero of the Bolt one, from the trial chambers
....... wait
googles
Bolt armor trims are found in standard vaults in trial chambers. Once obtained, it can be duplicated using the crafting recipe below.
oh motherfuck-
wheat helm
i start another mod pack
that's fair
i should consider trying out some of the mods
wheat helm
wheat helm
> Bolt armor trims are found in standard vaults in trial chambers. Once obtained...
after realizing i was farming the wrong vaults i now have a completed trophy room 🥳
hard pike
oh no my frames are dropping fast
wheat helm
that's a lot of mobs
wheat helm
man, y'all ever look at your minecraft base and go "dang, it's cool that i made that"
also this isn't JUST an excuse to show off my survival base, i wanna see y'all's too
cus sometimes i just go out and go "whoa, minecraft... fun... cool"
hard pike
CUBE
I think what I learned with this wall: too complex and too long to build
also I need to not focus on fully fixed fortifications the troops need to run and shoot
wheat helm
huh, neat
troops?
anyway here's my current minecraft base
i hate that when i record it the lighting comes out differently from in-game
(in the game itself you can't visibly see the boundaries between floor/wall/ceiling on the inside, it's all just jet black)
but im very happy with this base
hard pike
wall
wheat helm
🥺
wise owl
perfectly humane source of rotational force
hard pike
GOOD NEWS
THE WALL IS SYMMETRICAL!
AND ITS ALMOST DONE!
made it mossier depending on location
hard pike
fringe python
hard pike
hard pike
its working
they're using the doorways
they are kinda shooting
what works is ground level arrow slits!
hard pike
oh no
hard pike
I figured it out
Remove the crossbower shields
They fire much faster
the shields screw up the ai
azure iris
What mod is this?
hard pike
Guard Villagers
they're pretty good but the AI is weird
Archers prefer to shoot only when there's a lot of blocks between them and hostile mobs
otherwise they'll sprint and kick to reposition
swordsmen are basically a melee homing missile
sprint to enemy, enemy dead
it takes trial and error to position their spawn
you can also make villagers into guards by giving them iron ingots
and when you get Hero of the Village you can command the guard to attack specific enemies and patrol, as well as change their loadout
two dozen of them can reliably take down a Wither with help and full armor
The AI does do well against pillagers
hard pike
Decided to sacrifice form for raw function
there will be staircases leading upwards, funneling enemy troops' pathfinding to the closest guards, which will occupy them with archers protected by swordsmen.
Any enemies that attempt to beat down the gatehouses will be intercepted by roaming swordsmen with Smite enchantments
Note: I'll be replacing fences with the slabs I showed earlier, these are placeholder
hard pike
WORKING
I just needed to make the wall wider to allow the AI to have room to run and reload
YES!
Next test: funneling.
Whittled down
hard pike
Question
Should I restructure the interior and make it more of a small city?
I’ve never made a super dense urban environment in Minecraft before
hard pike
hard pike
hard pike
hard pike
Making apartments by expanding single family homes
hard pike
hard pike
hard pike
@stone canopy wall
stone canopy
hard pike
ancient estuary
Thread space is free
hard pike
The mod i use changed
guards don't naturally spawn with enchanted gear anymore
now my casualty rate is higher
hard pike
frank anvil
finding a modpack that's meaty enough to dig into without being insufferably tedious to grind through is such a delicate balance
started a skyblock thing and that was a mistake
hard pike
@toxic rose @silk silo tactically sound?
silk silo
I have no idea, I haven't played this mod
hard pike
I mean the idea of surrounding an opponent and shooting
toxic rose
Honestly this is beyond me
silk silo
I mean the idea of surrounding an opponent and shooting
I mean sure but broadly speaking you won't get the chance IRL
silk silo
armies are too large
like you can get encirclements but this kind of "dude surrounded by fifty dudes with crossbows" doesn't really happen
hard pike
Oh ok
frank anvil
anyone have a favourite immersive engineering-centered pack?
rancid spire
hard pike
After testing some fortifications
The AI gets very cagey unless it’s high up and above foes and even then isn’t the best shot
The archers DO shoot really well when allowed to move and respond
I e in open or cramped spaces, with clear doorways not being blocked by blocks
Regardless of situation as long as they can run far and fast and have sword backup they do really well
Fortifications are good if they lead enemies to be on the same z level as the archers
Are there any builders here who are good at making low but thick fortifications
silk silo
someone vandalized the wiki
rancid spire
yeah i just found this one really funny
hard pike
oof
I removed the sloped walls
the ai pathfinding fires faster witout the stair slopes
hard pike
Good news
they breached the wall
ONLY because I broke a door intentionally
and the guards are still fighting hard and archers too
This proves all my work wasn't for naught
crossbows ARE a strong option due to damage and piercing
but you need to give the guards space to relocate, like any soldier
snow flare
is there a modpack thats fun solo for minecraft?
hard pike
Twilight Forest
snow flare
something thats not too heavy
i forgot to mention because i am on a laptop atm
🫠 i tried installing BetterMC without understanding anything and i wasted time and paitence on curseforge
hard pike
hard pike
Humbly present
Homing missile foot soldiers
If I give the swordsmen speed potions they just fucking GO
hard pike
I have a stupid idea
to simulate combat magic in Warhammer Fantasy army buffs
I'm gonna give all my infantry super speed
zoom
hard pike
every time i spawn a regiment
they detect a zombie horde within MILES
and spread out purging everything in a roughly semicircle shape
its insane
I think i spawned too many because zombies aren't a threat at all atm
hard pike
Alright so here's what I have learned after more testing
Having stairs or openings is essential. The best thing about the guard is their mobility.
Accept that some will despawn or leave the walls. More will join.
Shieldwall guards will be slower than pure melee ones, but the shields give a few seconds to minutes longer of survival against common zombies or pillagers when given support by flanking units. Use them.
Don't immediately replace random spawn guards' gear. Trust them.
fringe python
hard pike
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hard pike
Hmm
I’m kinda having fun leading my small army to stabilize the torch road of zombies
Maybe I’ll do what I don’t normally do and make a full road
I like connecting villages
hard pike
rancid spire
my lava based furnace
wise owl
pretty
rancid spire
it uses lava on top of tripstone to fuel it via the cauldtrons
ember bay
Observer on cauldrons to activate a dispenser with an empty bucket?
rancid spire
that doesnt work
"An empty bucket can be used to empty a cauldron with water or lava, filling the bucket with the fluid. This does not work with dispensers."
ember bay
Either that's wrong or the wiki page on the dispenser is out of date
Oh, I see, you can use a bucket in a dispenser to pick up source blocks, but not the contents of a cauldron.
ancient estuary
yeah, it's a weird one
rancid spire
yeah the cauldtron is the issue
ancient estuary
you can automate lava production, but it means AFKing with an autoclicker while a machine piston-pushes a "feed tape" of cauldrons in front of you
rancid spire
and the cauldtron is required to make lava
ancient estuary
(naturally, the Create mod lets you fully automate this by sticking pipes into cauldrons, which means you can pretty trivially make an infinite lava tank as soon as you have enough copper and iron for pipes, which in turn gives you infinite stress once you get blaze burners + steam engines)
ember bay
Create also has other ways of making an infinite lava tank, like just having an absurd amount of lava
ancient estuary
Yup yup, that's what I mean. You bootstrap your way to 10k blocks of lava and then you can pump infinite lava out of that reservoir because of how Create works
silk silo
This is a much older mod but I recall I sourced lava in something FTB adjacent by pumping out the nether
frank anvil
doing that way back in a tekkit pack is how I actually learned lava doesn't behave like water and the source blocks are finite lol
silk silo
"how much lava could I possibly use"
"oh"
candid dock
we take all the lava and turn it into power
candid dock
if you're smart about it you can use that heat generator to make early game lava
safe oracle
you can actually get infinite lave in modern minecraft, though it is A Process
ember bay
Yeah that was mentioned up above
safe oracle
ah we see
frank anvil
installing a giant modpack knowing full well I'm going to spend all my time making 300 immersive engineering diesel generators to blow out my eardrums
mods that use one block machines are all cowards
I've never properly automated electrode production and fully utilized arc furnaces before so that's a goal this time
round kestrel
round kestrel
tidal notch
so close to ultimate power (in minecraft)
lapis parcel
Hey, looking into vanilla+ stuff and wondering what people's tastes for Biome Mods are? How big of an issue is them crowding out vanilla structures like the Desert temple? In particular, I'm looking at WWOO, Geophilic, Teralith, or Regions Unexplored. WWOO and Geophilic are just redesigns, so it should be fine, but I've heard that while very well made, teralith and Regions Unexplored tend to push structures out to the sides.
(Teralith also looks gorgeous but I've heard it has issues with the vanilla-blocks-only approach and saplings/trees changing behavior in new biomes).
ancient estuary
It's been a while, but I remember liking teralith pretty well, certainly more than the Biomes o Plenty approach (too many modded blocks with mediocre textures). I remember thinking the vanilla block texturing looked good, and I don't remember any big balance/progression issues caused by finding blocks in weird places. That said, that could all have changed in the several years since I played a teralith pack, and I could see atypical blocks throwing off progression in a mod pack
hard pike
They added the tick freeze function
I can freeze the game at will and manipulate time\
found the last guy alive
lapis parcel
Is Prism Launcher not searching modrinth properly for anyone else?
Nevermind, fixed now!
lapis parcel
Looks like modrinth's search in general is struggling
wise owl
Oh by the way! For the vegans of Pnet on this thread, the Farmer's Delight addon Miner's Delight has some dishes and foods that are completely vegan
look! You got vegan steak and potatoes, pasta with veggie balls, vegan wraps, and vegan burgers
all sourced from the mealy Cave Carrot
do be aware it does add other animal sourced foods, like insect, squid, and bat
But you can eat moss
rancid spire
i still don't understand why filled buckets don't stack
candid dock
cus they dont nest well
hard pike
yall
im really struggling
I wanna add a shader to MC
so i drag and drop it into the resource pack menu right
and it should work
or do I need optifine?
rancid spire
you ned something
optifine iris theres a couple
some modpacks have some sort of shader thing build in
rancid spire
you need a shaders mod
hard pike
I can't download optifine 1.2.1
rancid spire
1.21 is pretty new
hard pike
latest version on the curseforge site sends me to a random exe file
rancid spire
maybe try iris
rancid spire
texturepacks don't require anything anymore
hard pike
all of the 1.21 packs need optifine
rancid spire
fabously optimized has a beta for 1.21.1
its vanilla mc with just performance imrpovemnets
fringe python
fringe python
wise owl
from The Binding of Isaac: Repentance
(Slabfish Abnormals Team and Deployer Create my beloved)
rancid spire
https://youtu.be/CaX3DkIc49U?feature=shared very quick tour of our 0.0 base
its a hub for future projects
ancient estuary
very charming! I like the free range villager approach
rancid spire
theres a limit of how free range we can do
because they are very and i mean very good at getting themselves killed
ancient estuary
yup! that's part of why I appreicate the effort of not just locking them in 1x1 cells for their own safety
rancid spire
the smith ones are in smaller spots cause of the lava and other dangours bits
ancient estuary
that's just good workplace safety practices
rancid spire
but yeah i use the trapdoors to prevent them from going outside of the tiny town
ancient estuary
do you know about the berry bush + (moss) carpet trick? that might blend into your grassy areas
rancid spire
there is a masonry and farmer trapped but thats because the potato farm doesnt work otherwise
i think the carpet thing was patched
ancient estuary
sort of. the "multiple layers of carpet" trick was patched, but if you put carpet over a berry bush then mobs will avoid it because of they think the bush will hurt them
(afaik that still works, anyway)
rancid spire
ah ok
ember bay
What's 0.0 mean?
ember bay
Ah
rancid spire
makes it the best place to put a nether highway starting point
random zenith
tidal notch
fast travel let's gooooooo
safe oracle
calling it a "buff" feels kinda weird since, it's a gamerule thing
BUT
yea you can do silly stuff (/pos)
hard pike
random zenith
calling it a "buff" feels kinda weird since, it's a gamerule thing
well it's making something better than it had been the previous patch
i don't think the term "buff" needs to only refer to competition
ooh wait is it only a console command thing?
that's lame
rancid spire
somewhat
its experimental behaviors
and having a gamerule to change max sped is part of it
also they can't really change the max speed default without breaking so much
unless they(which i think is the better thing to do) have two minecarts
safe oracle
ooh wait is it only a console command thing?
yeah that's what we meant by gamerule
wise owl
https://twittervx.com/Krtzyy/status/1824169705898467643?t=Q2wRHCTR2zZrn5SCaKinlg...
PARTICLE ACCELERATORRRRRR
ionic iron
HEY
HEY
I WANNA PLAY TERRARIA WITH FOLKS
BUT WITH MODS
WHO WANTS TO PLAY THORIUM AND STUFF WITH ME
rancid spire
i wish vintage story was more popular
i really think if it was the modding community would beat minecrafts just cause of the support being better
round kestrel
Yeet
wise owl
let that sink in
random zenith
i wish vintage story was more popular
having a ton of realistic survival conditions is always going to be more niche than a straightforward game where you don't have as much different stuff to worry about
rancid spire
i think vintage story just doesnt have the word out more than anything
lapis parcel
Ehh, the realistic time-consuming survival is definitely a factor
ember bay
Yeah I think Vintage Story has more baked-in assumptions of playstyle that would limit the scope of mods
Unless you have mods to just throw that out, which is presumptuous
rancid spire
vintagestory was more built with modding in mind
someone even made skyblock for vintagestory
ember bay
I don't think being built with a modding platform is an indicator of modding prevalence, as backwards as that might sound
rancid spire
i really think vintage story just needs some thing that puts a really good spotlight on it
ember bay
Sure, more attention for it would be great, but I highly doubt it would change the modding landscape at all
lapis parcel
Personally, as someone who doesn’t play Vintage story, I don’t like how it laser focuses in on farming and resource management intensive survival as primary gameplay.
random zenith
like I don't think most Minecraft players would be very interested in vintage story if they heard about it
ember bay
Modders are an extremely small subset of a playerbase with a dedicated passion and knowledge of the game's inner workings
random zenith
it's not an Unsighted situation where a ton of people would love it but just haven't heard of it
I think a pretty big chunk of the people potentially interested in "Minecraft but with realistic temperatures, food preservation, and metalcrafting" already have vintage story
ember bay
A modding API makes modding easier but doesn't preclude the need for interest and technical skill. You still need to be a coder, which filters out way more people than most expect.
rancid spire
i disagree i feel like a lot of minecraft players would be intrested in it, it being vintagestory is based on a fairly popular minecraft mod
ember bay
Terrafirmacraft was a pretty niche mod to begin with, partially because it didn't play nice with more or less every other mod
rancid spire
i really think vintagestory just needs exposure
ember bay
It was talked about and people were aware of it, but it wasn't that popular
Looking at Curseforge, TFC has 1.7 Million downloads. Minecraft Comes Alive by comparison (A Sims-ish mod) has 13.2 Million
rancid spire
bold hazel
I only now saw a video about how Mojang broke a ton of redstone stuff and… is it weird to say that I was more interested in trying it out before they added all the various tools and blocks?
rancid spire
the extra blocks really help the pallet out
the block pallet out
and old minecraft isnt really that diffrent just less
bold hazel
Maybe it’s elitism (it probably is) but when there was only dust and torches and maybe repeaters I was interested in making various logic gates. That was neat.
But why bother? Just place a comparator.
rancid spire
well you can make more complex things
and do stuff you coundn't do before without making it overly complex
lapis parcel
... comparators have been around since redstone basically
bold hazel
Nnnno?
lapis parcel
... I've never done redstone without comparators?
rancid spire
and its really cool
lapis parcel
And I've been playing since like 2014 or something?
bold hazel
Okay yeah they can do that and I’m not smart enough to do most of the interesting stuff. I just wanted to make logic gates and feel smart.
lapis parcel
Observers are maybe a bit broken, but also let you do a lot of cool stuff.
bold hazel
Or a latch which I forget the exact name of.
lapis parcel
I'm also not redstone smart at all
lapis parcel
Or a latch which I forget the exact name of.
t-flipflop?
rancid spire
also i wouldn't say the new update broke a ton
well it does but it also makes it more consistant
the update basicly removed a bunch of wierdness
lapis parcel
Yeah, new update seems like it's mostly good other than Quasiconnectivity being a big tool.
bold hazel
t-flipflop?
…yeah that was it
lapis parcel
(And some random clear bugs
rancid spire
for context some bulds have to be made in specific locations or directions
or they do not work, the update removes this wierdness
bold hazel
... comparators have been around since redstone basically
Also redstone was in 1.0 and comparators were added in 1.5 (which is… earlier than I thought). But that’s still a 4-year gap.
hard pike
I thought it was bad but I also know very little about red stone tbh
All I know is it broke people’s creations
lapis parcel
All of the bad stuff was either "pretty clear bug" or "redstone powers pistons (and maybe other stuff?) when it really shouldn't, it's just baked into the game"
bold hazel
I saw a whole video about how it broke a TON of stuff involving “qc” which powers pistons from a block away and this broke a TON of stuff.
lapis parcel
Yeah, that's the one sketchy change. But also quasiconnectivity seems really weird and ehh...
bold hazel
All of the bad stuff was either "pretty clear bug" or "redstone powers pistons (...
Yeah, it was arguably unintentional, but it was also an integral part of a lot of builds.
hard pike
Shouldn’t it help in making redstone less… idk wacky
bold hazel
And they didn’t even remove it directly; they just made it not work just with redstone dust. You can still do it with copper bulbs, but that’s kludgier and lets other redstone interfere in undesirable ways and doesn’t always fit.
rancid spire
i do think people can be overly negative about the redstone changes it being this is the first pass
the wierd random way things updated was not good
its gonna break stuff yeah but its a good long term change
bold hazel
Shouldn’t it help in making redstone less… idk wacky
And while, yes, some of the changes make it more reliable and easier to understand, it can also make it potentially nondeterministic which is… not good.
It makes things simpler in a way which blows up a lot of stuff which people put a lot of effort into, and potentially makes it impossible to build, depending on how far they go.
lapis parcel
Ehh, it will be consistently non-determinsitic in easy to avoid ways
rancid spire
yeah i don't think you understand how wierd redstone is
after
before
same machine
bold hazel
I saw a video on it which I cannot post right now because I have to step away but I will when I can.
lapis parcel
Also, consistently that order. In the new version, the randomness is case by case, which makes it a lot cleaner.
rancid spire
yeah
i think people are just gonna accept its gonna break them
because they were broken to begin with and people just accepted it being broken
and built it around being broken
lapis parcel
It's also a fairly easy fix if you're getting non-deterministic outputs, as opposed to before where "build it somewhere else/turned 90 degrees" was the fix
rancid spire
100% people will flip around once people realize how much better the new update order is
its also less random then you think with the new change
its only speciifc cases
its mainly if two pistons get powered at the same time
and aimde at eachother
hard pike
Would it fix like
rancid spire
and here is the thing this can actully create something intresting
hard pike
Dupe machines
lapis parcel
Yeah, and only if the redstone signal source is equally close to both.
rancid spire
a new type of randomizer
you could put an observer on each piston
and bam a randomizer
also they already announced changes
We are excited to hear what you think about these changes: please share your feedback on the feedpack page.
Developer's Note: The removal of excessive neighbor updates around wire affects the behavior of Quasi-Connectivity based contraptions. We plan to address these issues at a later point.
Redstone wire updates now have a left-first preference
That means if there is a fork in a wire and the distance on both sides is the same, the left side will be updated first
This removes most of the random behavior
The remaining edge cases which are still random are situations where wire gets powered from above or below without enough context
rancid spire
the ending part of the video comes off as rude
bold hazel
I think it's intentionally a bit rude because the person making the video is angry.
And as he points out there's still some weirdness going on. They didn't get rid of QC at all; they just got rid of the easiest way to make use of QC.
rancid spire
mojang mentions they are working on it still
bold hazel
Yeah. It's one of those statements where it hopefully means they will improve things.
hard pike
Is the statement of “mojang is lazy and doesn’t update the game as much as they should” true?
rancid spire
they already made one change towrds the randomness
id say minecraft goes though diffrent times
id say 1.20 and 1.21 have both bene pretty repective to updates
bold hazel
I feel like they've lost a lot of goodwill and that's showing through.
rancid spire
and changes
eh i think theres always gonna be people who feel like they need to rant and moan about every thing or lack of
i have my own problems with minecraft on some stuff, but i don't feel the need to yell it out
just looking at reddit post for the newest shapshot talks about a 70% performacne increase, and people pretty hopeful overall.
in just 4 days two of the major complaints from that video are just gone
bold hazel
Yeah. I understand that improving performance is absolutely a good thing. I also understand that putting a lot of effort into a complicated machine, and then suddenly having that machine irreparably break, would be infuriating.
rancid spire
yeah and sometimes things break when you fix them to work properly
bold hazel
Hopefully that response comes out and is good and everyone's happy on any part of the issue.
rancid spire
no more locational redstone
bold hazel
The locational redstone thing makes sense and is reasonable especially now that they've gone to left-first preferential behavior rather than random behavior.
rancid spire
no what locational redstone means is if you build the same device in diffrent locations
it doesnt work in some locations
part of what the redstone changes do is fix this
the idea is no matter where or what oritentation you build it the machine will work
ancient estuary
aside: Core Keeper is doing a free weekend (today through sunday) to celebrate their 1.0 release
bold hazel
What I'm saying is that removing the locational stuff makes sense and is reasonable. Or, at least, that's what I meant to say. I'm not sure I actually successfully said it.
ancient estuary
Fascinating! Tho the focus on minecraft prison breaks makes me wonder wtf is going on in bedrock server culture
hard pike
I have no idea lmao they seem to be the cool new thing
odd gate
Anyone have any recommedations for Minecraft Modpacks?
wise owl
I suggest All of Fabric 6 for a somewhat beginner friendly experience to the Fabric API and all the cool mods on it
like Spectrum! That's a good magic mod
ember bay
I will always shill Blightfall as a great story pack, though with the caveat that it is 1.7.10, Thaumcraft Focused, and very survival oriented
rancid spire
fabouly optimized is good for if you just want vanilla but better performance and you can just add stuff to the pack afterwrds
safe oracle
we'll second the blightfall suggestion. that's a really fun one, though also one that's complemented by a more in-depth guide (though such is not necessary.)
Also one that works really well and possibly better with friends since you all can pick different Domes to reside within that are scattered around the map
hard pike
oh no an arrow hit the button
MY COMPUTER
this is just the zombies not the husks
hard pike
Update
With the new place command my domain is spreading even further than before
I can now immediately place a small village anywhere I please and of any variation
Unfortunately this does not prevent terrain distortion so I spend the next 30 minutes cleaning up dirt blocks in trees
Domain Expansion:
hard pike
I FIXED IT
it does look meh but im working on an anarchy server with limited resources
candid dock
ember bay
Free lead
wise owl
waaaaaaaaaaait a minute
THREE DAYS AGO?
WHAT THE FUCK
I used to watch that guy as a KID
or a teen, but still
rancid spire
i watch hermiotcraft
hard pike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2YZhcC4NY
I am AFRAID.
hard pike
So
Two mob votes a year
Three updates a year
More “free” content. Unsure how to feel about this emphasis of free (it shows up three times in the article being quoted)
I hope they don’t monetize things
hard pike
There’s two theories here
- They’re saying free to placate people that have grown jaded from years of no content
- Paid. Content.
Blocks and mobs locked behind dlc.
ancient estuary
Two mob votes a year
Clarifying this point: zero mob votes per year, Minecraft live style announcement shows twice per year
ancient estuary
My theory on paid content: the bedrock community is significantly larger than Java, demonstrably willing to pay for extra content, and less able to mod the game. Moving to a paid DLC model isn't out of the question (Microsoft is liable to shoot itself in the foot), but would require splitting dev time to get worse dividends, while prompting community outrage, on a platform where mod makers have demonstrated a skyrim-like willingness to mod anything.
Economically, I think it's a stupid idea. Which, again, doesn't mean Microsoft won't push for it, but it'd be a surprising move in my book
rancid spire
i heard they made bedrock modding evne harder recently
ancient estuary
yeah. I'm not sure about the technical details, but I heard that as well
ember bay
Obscure question: Do Quark or Botania have Natural Shedding in 1.20.1 (Animals passively drop certain resources)? I think it was removed from Botania at some point because it was in Quark, but I can't find a setting in Quark for it.
ancient estuary
according to this thread, it was dropped about 5 years ago
Chicken shedding caused a lot of clutter and server load, and wasn't especially useful. Feathers aren't used very much.
looks like it used to be in the Quark Tweaks module https://ftb.fandom.com/wiki/Quark_Tweaks which no longer lists it https://quarkmod.net/#features
lapis parcel
You can also just set up a chicken farm for feathers, right?
So it wasn’t making something renewable or particularly easier to access.
ancient estuary
usually I see people wanting a non-fatal farming method because they don't like killing animals
ancient estuary
yeah, very popular in modded. you also get stuff like shearing chickens to get feathers
ember bay
The specific reason I asked about it is because it had other creatures shed and I was trying to figure out why my Blaze in Garden of Glass wasn't dropping Blaze Powder
And I couldn't tell if it was because it was from the Fel Pumpkin or that feature is just gone
ancient estuary
it looks like shedding hasn't shown up in the botania changelogs since minecraft...1.7, maybe? a long time ago, in other words. last mentions say it has to be enabled by the config, but if they shifted over using quark's feature at some point it might just be dead.
ember bay
Yeah I have Quark too and it seems to have just disappeared without a trace
ember bay
That is unfortunate as Blaze powder is my current bottleneck for getting to the Nether
ancient estuary
can't you kill the blazes? I thought the idea with fel pumpkins is that the blazes only dropped blaze powder, and that got you to the nether
ember bay
Yes, but I want to farm the blazes instead for passive blaze powder as mob spawns have been unlucky
And I don't want to spend the time to make a whole mob farm before I have a cobble generator
snow flare
downloading betterMC
rancid spire
i just realized this does break some things
well one cool thing
but it does make other things work better
hard pike
azure iris
I feel like the thumbnail alone tells me everything I need to know about this video's arguments
hard pike
The main points are
- It’s emblematic of its corporate acquisition due to the.. more artificial and peppy nature of it
- C418 enjoyed low, almost silent buildups. The new music starts immediately, with no warning.
I agree with none of this
ember bay
This person hasn't listened to Precipice
azure iris
I figured yeah
rancid spire
you should give the vintage story soundtrack a listen
ive never thought about this until now but some songs give a runscape vibe
wise owl
Is Mod of Redemption on workshop?
wide solar
Is Mod of Redemption on workshop?
Yes
Yes it is
Also king slayer 3 is this uy
guy
my hubby
wise owl
WOO
wide solar
Lmao
fringe python
azure iris
Oh no
azure iris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPfsRPTlp8
Oh god that was agonizing, I love it
hard pike
Hmm
So muskets are only marginally better than crossbows atm
I need to give my guards more space to roam freely and reposition to fire
safe oracle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPfsRPTlp8
okay we know a lot of these, especially combined, are way overboard but at the same time
terraria can feel Really slow to build up sometimes, especially when you just Cannot find that one dang thing you need
ember bay
Most QoL mods aren't really doing much more than eliminating time sinks imo, they aren't letting you do something you normally couldn't
But if you consider time sinks part of the difficulty, then yeah
safe oracle
it's just kinda like
like the video proves, you go too ham with the QoL mods and you cut out like 80% of the game
mining and resource gathering, as much as it can be frustrating, requires you to put yourself in frequent peril by moving out Into The World
forces you to scour the earth, search through nooks and crannies, fight things
rancid spire
wanna know what i find fun wathcing people play vintage story for the first time
i don't think theres a single vintagestor yvideo that has hit 1m views yet
this is the closest
rancid spire
its not that popular sadly
spice iris
Amazing
candid dock
i spent days farming and yesterday i got the terraprisma
lapis parcel
This does not feel real.
tidal notch
incredible
wise owl
I for one love that thing
the creaking feels... unnatural
despite it being made of wood
with its jittery animations, ability to freeze when you look at it
heck, its head doesn't even move when you stare at it
hard pike
This is SO COOL
odd gate
Creepypasta Minecraft update
hard pike
Oh.. everyone says it’s clearly half finished
Or low effort…
sigh now I’m not sure tbh..
odd gate
Twitter?
lapis parcel
That’s the internet about any Minecraft thing
hard pike
YouTube
odd gate
Not much better imo
lapis parcel
They get very mad about anything
hard pike
“It could have fog” “it could have gnarled trees”
Now that it was pointed out I notice it
All that’s there is the wood really
wise owl
Oh.. everyone says it’s clearly half finished
I mean it is half finished, since this is something they're gonna build on and add more stuff to
so I cannot wait to see what comes next!
wise owl
Personally I want there to be fog when you enter the biome that obscures vision outside of it 👀
hard pike
This is a huge update for the first time in months
wise owl
so it feels like you're trapped in it. Silent Hill type beat
odd gate
But what's the Creaking Heart do
odd gate
Ah
wise owl
I do like the challenge of you having to look away when you chop it down
Since it will run up to you very stiffly and attack when you're not looking
hard pike
I can’t remember something this new in so long
wise owl
kinda like a weeping angel. or a reverse enderman
hard pike
Minecraft has been historically slow with updates
snow flare
i fucked up
i was throwing away some junk i didnt need to get more space
threw my enchanted iron sword away
and im in the underdark
no melee weapons
i feel the big am stupide
safe oracle
Been doing a Blightfall playthrough again
internet down for 11 minutes yipee
anyways it's really still rather good
haven't been scouting outwards much (so as to avoid The Rot) but have been making advancements in Thaumcraft and stuff
Got a smeltery going, plenty of iron, enough food so as to (barely) avoid the redundancy problem, and a pretty okay sugar cane farm on the side to boot
Burned all of our rifle ammo on a tainted hunter on the border of the jungle, including the backup ammo. Felt pretty good about that victory, that guy's an asshole
||Then learned there's more of those sorts inside the jungle too :) so glad to be exploring around here||
think we have 7 ether blooms which can do some pretty serious cleansing work if focused. all around, things are pretty solid.
safe oracle
Now that we've hit the jungle we'll probably springboard towards the Savannah. That's why we did it in the first place. We also wanna start farming cocoa pods though so
lotta stuff to do
ember bay
I should get back to Blightfall at some point as I fell off when actually sitting down to build a proper base
safe oracle
yeah, real
we're starting to hit the stage where we need to actually start Doing The Shit instead of just kinda uh, following the quests
ember bay
My first base skeleton ended up with way too small rooms because I wanted a tesseract effect, and when I left off I had to tear down everything still
Also probably need to just expand the footprint of the base by using more blooms to push back the walls.
safe oracle
yeah
just put em all close together and you can see the cleanse in real time
most of our warp points are sorta just, open-air compounds
that's probably not going to fly in the jungle though, this place Sucks
ember bay
That's how I cleared the space for my base to begin with
hard pike
Excellent
safe oracle
it turns out buildings are rather large
wheat helm
man
i was doing a "one chunk only" challenge and had basically reached as far as i could get with getting access to available resources, etc, was pondering what I should build in it next....
and then a baby zombie managed to clip through the walls of the mob grinder i made, mounted one of the village's cats, and proceeded to cavalry-murder all of my villagers 🫠
half of them are gone, the other half are zombies, and i thiiink i might just call that world 'done' because of the amount of effort needed to get/cure more villagers XD
was a fun run though
young mango
apparently its possible to beat minecraft with only a single tree in skyblock
so first goal is apparently, make a mob farm using a ton of wood
safe oracle
oh yeah
sort of reminds us of no-structure flatworlds
azure iris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_OwK2OzO8E
I think someone did something like this but with gregtech
safe oracle
https://youtu.be/n77KEIU-40k?si=qYXV0MX4Ls6ph3X8
holy hell that goes deep
wise owl
ember bay
Chance Cubes
candid dock
chance cubes evil
safe oracle
still in Blightfall
the cleansing was going so well, the game decided to invite the Dude With A Rocket Launcher along to celebrate
jokes aside
motherfucker! absolute bastard!
safe oracle
okay he wasn't that hard to kill nvm
ember bay
I have never seen Dude With A Rocket Launcher, holy fuck
safe oracle
it's a wand shaped like a gun but for all intents and purposes it's a rocket launcher
also welcome to the purple sauce production facilities, it's fucked up out here
we quite honestly just do not want to deal with that many fucking spiders
ember bay
Oh wait, I have seen those. I died to one and then decided not to mess with them until I have a crossbow
safe oracle
the spiders are too fast we think
you basically just walk up, pop one, and then backpedal while spamming LMB with your melee of choice
ember bay
Spiders aren't worth killing generally
safe oracle
costs of cleansing a forest: one bajillion hives
safe oracle
Spiders aren't worth killing generally
yeah, not really. but you gotta pop the spores eventually
safe oracle
BEHOLD LIFE PERFECTED, THE INCESSANT HUM OF THE HIVE
the majority of those ?'s are swarms and the rest are hives
safe oracle
ruminating while we are out of town on how The Cure is going to have a primary ingredient be yogurt
fringe python
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1688640/Isle_Goblin/ goblin isometric terraria looking for playtesters
fringe python
tall maple
Uhhhhh...
I feel like this needs to be shown here.
It's an actual mod what the fu-
wise owl
YEAHHHHHHHH
I wish there was a 4x style minecraft mod, heck, a minecraft game like this
like set in the MC universe
rancid spire
theres an rts mod for half life
tall maple
https://youtu.be/YA789zV5P5M?si=o8VubRa-lHbzAE9t
Imagine tho, two players control RTS style and build kingdoms and the other players are sort of citizens or Hero Units for each faction.
fringe python
wise owl
SHAI HULUD SPEAKS
fringe python
mint canyon
how is the mod create?
ancient estuary
it's neat. it's kind of like Factorio-lite? at its most basic, it's a way to almost trivially automate a lot of resources, but I think it's strength is when you embrace the goofy animated factory vibe over strict efficiency
(it's still good if you enjoy going post-scarcity for its own sake, it's just hard to make that a balanced modded experience IME)
dusty helm
Conveyor belt contraptions involving create really kickstart the acme factory look
mint canyon
I have been getting shit from it in the modpack Im playing
so now I was wondering just what to do with all this
cant use the drills sadly, Im locked off of them due to the progression in the mod
rancid spire
mint canyon
im locked off the nether too so create became the way I can get shit from nether thanks to haunting
ancient estuary
where are you progression-wise? are vanilla materials like iron and gold gating you?
rancid spire
what mod pack are you using
mint canyon
where are you progression-wise? are vanilla materials like iron and gold gating ...
still early
but that is mostly because I spend more time exploring rather than working to reach the next tier
mint canyon
what mod pack are you using
chocolate edition
the progression here is supposed to be akin more to terraria
there are 16 special ender eyes you have to make
every 3 eyes you collect, is a tier up
3 eyes open up the nether
ancient estuary
assuming they didn't mess with the drop tables, automating cobble->gravel->sand through fans can set you up with a ton of resources
mint canyon
6 eyes open up other dimensions too
only with 6 eyes I will be allowed to use or make netherite stuff
ancient estuary
if you can't use mechanical drills, you might be able to use a block-displacement farm that stops a contraption inside a lava+water cobble generator. (when contraptions stop they default to returning to being solid blocks, which breaks any blocks they're intersecting with)
mint canyon
Im technically 5/4 eyes now, but like I said, I was focused more on exploring than anything
this thing also has tetra and I found an ancient building
And I havent invested much beyond a diamond armor and I barely use it because you cant get mending through enchants or villagers
so I held off using them because of that
and also because I recently got a curio that allows me to be invisible
so I spend more time sneaking around to steal shit than outright fighting
mint canyon
I tap half a second and this bow is loaded
candid dock
if you havent built a belt with quick slots do so its sooooooooooo nice
ancient estuary
Oh, did tetra finally get belts working? Those have been bugged in every pack I've played with it
candid dock
they worked fine last time i messed with them iirc
mint canyon
if you havent built a belt with quick slots do so its sooooooooooo nice
i have a belt
but I will make you choose
want a belt with extra space
or want magnetic so shit that falls comes towards you rather than having to go collect it
candid dock
if you ca nget magnetic somewhere else quickslots otherwise magnetic
mint canyon
i can technically
but that requires spending diamond in honestly half useless shit
there is a mission that gives me magnetic in other slot besides Belt, but I need to make everything that can be made of diamonds
hoe, pickaxe, shovel, sword, flail, fishing rod, axe
and half of that shit is technically useless with how I can just make something stronger with those same materials through Tetra
so Im waiting just for them to drop or be loot from random exploring
safe oracle
us: oh no all our plants are growing so slow! we're running out of good food!
also us:
ember bay
Bonemeal is a sometimes food
safe oracle
bonemeal translates directly into grown plants
wise owl
you can use bones to make bone broth in Farmer's Delight
mmm... bone + any fungus/lichen in a cooking pot = bone broth
bold hazel
isn't bone broth like... really good in real life?
wise owl
I think? There are some health claims to it being good for you
i'd rather have sinigang instead
props to delightful for adding that
also its halloween. Thank you Supplementaries
ooh dullahan
safe oracle
many pig
azure iris
The pigs can handle it
bold hazel
do they? Genuinely, do pigs remove taint somehow?
...I need to play thaumcraft again.
azure iris
🤷♀️
bold hazel
I thought the only thing that could un-taint stuff was silverwood but it might have changed.
ember bay
They cannot
Silverwood, Ethereal Nodes, Dawn Totems, and the Dawn Machine (last two pack specific) can clear taint
bold hazel
I was very tempted to reply to that with "THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN" or some derivative thereof but that's probably not going to land as a reference yeah taint-clearing pigs would surprise me.
safe oracle
do they? Genuinely, do pigs remove taint somehow?
no, they will in fact make the situation worse by becoming aggressive monsters
safe oracle
that's a lot of taint
Blightfall baybee gotta love it
safe oracle
who put them out there
tepid yarrow
hola, as someone that hasn't played Terraria properly since 1.4 launched and the wait for tmodloader to update, what're some of peoples' favourite mods to play?
safe oracle
oooh that's a hard one
we're not a big mod person (mods are cool, we just haven't really had the opportunity to dive into them) but Calamity, Thorium, and anything Fargo's are generally safe bets.
wise owl
🥳
this is starting to feel like some Animal Farm (1945) by George Orwell
(in the way that there are animals)
mint canyon
stole a lot of drills from a natural building
safe oracle
the stealer
safe oracle
take us down to the redwood city where the grass is purple and the girls are evil
safe oracle
we're not even going to lie, that's intimidating
guy standing on the cliff
Men.
Spooky.
safe oracle
joyous news: we can cure pigs now
bold hazel
Imagine if every terraria biome had alternates, like the corruption/crimson did. Or at least if some did. There's been a lot of talk about an alt hallow but what if there were alt versions of other biomes? Or at least variants?
I'm not sure what many of them would be, though.
rancid spire
there is kinda sorta
some have sorta secret alternates
they are simlar enough they arent full alternates
bold hazel
like savannah with fewer, larger, thicker trees (with possibly a different type of wood) and more tan grass which grows taller? And which is flatter overall?
Desert -> badlands with less sand, or with red sand? Maybe? No clue what to do for boreal.
And of course there's this classic:
rancid spire
desert sorta has one with the underground desert
and oasis and pyramid
and beach
kinda ish
bold hazel
Kinda... those are more like sub-biomes though. But it's enough that you couldn't really make an alternate to the desert easily. ...whereas the snow biome just... doesn't have a ton to it, does it? Not in vanilla or Calamity mod either, actually.
rancid spire
i knida like thorium more than clamaity
but i also play the thoirum/calamity combo mod
bold hazel
Does Thorium add much anything to the boreal biome?
rancid spire
i don't recall
bold hazel
...the issue is that there isn't any sort of structure there. No pyramids, the underground ice caves are neat but not as distinctive as the underground desert somehow, the only boss tied to the biome is Deerclops in vanilla... there's just... nothing distinctive about it when there should be. And underground tundra is a biome! There's unique stuff to it! ...but it still feels a lot like a skin for normal caverns, I guess.
rancid spire
it seems to add a few things
mainly hardmode stuff
icy shards are used to make a lot of stuff
bold hazel
...oh yeah vanilla added some stuff to blizzards too now that I think of it.
bold hazel
I should start a new Calamity world at some point, and maybe play with wiring in it.
mint canyon
I hope i did it correctly
safe oracle
pigs seem to be a recurring theme in this playthrough
azure iris
I guess they want to be sacrificed to the altar
safe oracle
I guess they want to be sacrificed to the altar
well we brought them there by ourselves but yeah
azure iris
...you know finding a mansion on the second day entirely on accident in the first time I've played minecraft in years is certainly some kind of luck
Like, these things are supposed to be rare right?
...yeah that's pretty close to spawn
mint canyon
free allay
silk silo
pigs seem to be a recurring theme in this playthrough
blightfall?
that's the blood altar in the obsidian tower, right?
safe oracle
Eyup!
safe oracle
we've progressed pretty significantly since that screenshot
for one: pigs were pretty bad sacrifice fodder for our goals, oops
silk silo
yeah unfortunately the best way to fuel blood magic is either cursed earth and/or a spawner grinder
which means either managing cursed earth or getting a dislocation focus
odd gate
Man I need people to play Minecraft Modded with
ember bay
Is a Witch Pit no longer the best option for Blood Magic?
safe oracle
which means either managing cursed earth or getting a dislocation focus
or, hear us out,
villager auto-spawner
we just needed enough for a Magician's Blood Orb and that did it so
silk silo
Is a Witch Pit no longer the best option for Blood Magic?
managing and collecting witches is a pain
cursed earth/spawner grinders produce drops for use elsewhere and are generally easier to set up and manage
silk silo
villager auto-spawner
yeah but then you need to fuel the auto spawner and that takes you down a bunch of other tech mods and honestly it's way easier to just spend three days in the TC4 research minigame