that sounds like missing the point to me
#Baldur's Gate 3
deft crypt
dusky bear
it seems to be a tad demanding, my old pc couldnt run it
simple spire
that sounds like missing the point to me
Well, it gives you different storyline stuff, adds scenes, etc
A gaming laptop, plugged in, will do okay with it
But it is pretty demanding
deft crypt
ok nvm
simple spire
I was able to run it on my gaming laptop plugged in, in any case
And it was fine, but
It absolutely runs better now on my desktop
deft crypt
my laptop is not a gaming on
simple spire
Yeah, I mean maybe on minimal settings but ... I wouldn't bet on it? Maybe ask around in technical with the specs
dusky bear
i think i`ll make the medium armor and the shield 
also sucks that the game is demanding
i wish you could play it Reggie
deft crypt
apparently the only standard I don't meet, according to a spec checker, is graphic card
deft crypt
I guess I can buy it, if it doesn't work I can always refund it
dusky bear
true
pure steppe
apparently the only standard I don't meet, according to a spec checker, is graph...
What kinda card does the laptop have?
deft crypt
the inbuilt one uhh Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200
pure steppe
Yeah that might have trouble due to age so yeah no harm in seeing if it runs and refunding if it don't
dusky bear
Hello Clem 
pure steppe
Hello Clem <:vicksyWave:1324105483719802980>
Howdy! I too may be Baldur's Gate-ing this year so your trip reports from your playthrough are useful intel!
dusky bear
pure steppe
Maybe on a second go I might try to maximize my jump distance as a fighter and on my first go I'm thinking Cleric for utility for my Rogue and Warlock buddies
deft crypt
warlock is another build option I'm considering, just the classic "how busted is eldritch blast huh" type build
dusky bear
Imma run dnd for reggie if this doesnt work 
pure steppe
"So anyways, I started blasting" does have potential
dusky bear
Just dont forget your Circlet of Blasting
neon junco
Eldritch blast is even stronger in bg3
With the magic items available
Martials get a ton of stronger and unique magic items to put them on par with casters
And they're very easily available
neon junco
Maybe on a second go I might try to maximize my jump distance as a fighter and o...
A fun jump/dash build is eagle/elk totem barbarian 6 with thief rogue 3 for extra bonus action. Also there's finesse 2 handed weapons so you get full rogue benefits
You got the movement to reach any high ground accessible by running and also got the dive jump
dusky bear
ya know i'm kind of liking fire lady with bear rage thingy
she tanks a lot of dmg 
but well we min maxing here 
maybe i want something different for her?
deft crypt
karlach?
dusky bear
yes
im bad with names
so im thinking 'll make the medium armor and the shield for i believe i'll make more use out of those
dusky bear
YES ||big mean monster|| spoiler btw, this one is really a lot better finding out by yourself
dusky bear
yay 
it ded
dusky bear
thinking i could go fighter barb for karlarch
not feeling super sure about that....cause that also leaves the gith lady without much of a place 
hexed inlet
lae'zel monk
hexed inlet
she was a monk on my honor mode run, it created a vocal tic among my friends
"lae'zel. kill this man."
hexed inlet
open hand
dusky bear
Did you give her any multi class stuff? Or just pure monk?
hexed inlet
I think she was just a monk
hexed inlet
I don't really remember the specific class stuff I did in that run tbh
esther has a good monk clothing and there are some pairs of gloves that give you extra punch dmg
dusky bear
I mean if she was effective enough on Honor mode i feel like i could give it a try myself!
dusky bear
esther has a good monk clothing and there are some pairs of gloves that give you...
Let us hope i didnt kill the vendor or anything of the sort
hexed inlet
I think esther drops hers
hexed inlet
rip
the reason I started saying it is because lae'zel got strong enough early on to reliably oneshot an enemy per turn
and that was basically her job the entire game
run around and kill one beefy enemy per turn
I say oneshot but she punched them like 5 times in one turn
dusky bear
right right
ok Lae'zel is set
now for karlarch
i imagine i should start her off as fighter for proficiencies and then from there i go barbarian
dang forgot barbarians and armor dont go together
gaunt jackal
Barbarians can wear any armour besides Heavy just fine
dusky bear
what are your suggestions Briar?
gaunt jackal
What for, Skully?
dusky bear
Trying to figure out a build for karlarch i was thinking about going fighter barbarian and also give her the ||Adamantine heavy armor||
hexed inlet
in my tactician run I had her as an eldritch knight throwing build
dusky bear
that sounds funny
simple spire
lae'zel monk
This feels extremely fitting but I always feel a little odd not giving her a greatsword
gaunt jackal
Trying to figure out a build for karlarch <:vicksyThink:996566524225663086> i w...
Can't rage if you do that, give her the half plate option instead
dusky bear
ya mean the ||scale mail||?
hexed inlet
This feels extremely fitting but I always feel a little odd not giving her a gre...
oh no I gave her a greatsword
simple spire
Did you give her any multi class stuff? Or just pure monk?
Rogue 3 for Thief is enormously powerful for monk, and amusingly, starting with 1 fighter level and going for strength monk with heavy armor and tavern brawler is very, very strong
hexed inlet
she kind of had them on and off as they became better then worse then better again than punching
by the end she had some silly psychic damage gith one
simple spire
Yeah, the legendary one is the reason I feel like she should always have one
simple spire
Because like ... her narrative is so good, and getting it is sort of the capstone to that whole saga
dusky bear
Rogue 3 for Thief is enormously powerful for monk, and amusingly, starting with ...
So we go monk first thief later right?
simple spire
Definitely get to Monk 5 first thing for Tavern Brawler and Extra Attack. If you want to go the tavern brawler strength route, start as a fighter and then go monk at level 2-6.
dusky bear
Aight
simple spire
Then it's sorta an open question whether to get to for more monk or Rogue first
dusky bear
ok
simple spire
I personally went Monk 8 first, but if I could do it against I'd probably take Rogue to 4 and then take Monk to 7
Monk 8/Rogue 3 gets one more ki point than monk 7/rogue 4 but it's an extremely marginal benefit and you can just respec at 12 if it matters to you
But it was annoying not actually getting the Thief bonus action until 12th level
The big thing is that Tavern Brawler applies to unarmed attacks, and it doubles your strength bonus to attack and damage
So you just kinda hit everything all the time
dusky bear
yeah i feel like i should go with what works for now and then i'll worry about that extra ki point
since i can always respec
simple spire
It really doesn't end up mattering, 8 ki points is more than enough
lets talk karlarch
simple spire
There's a lot of stuff to do with fighter
Like even fighter 12 is legit very strong
Or like fighter 11/whatever 1 if 3 feats is enough
dusky bear
i see i was thinking about going fighter barbarian but now i aint super sure if that will make something interesting
simple spire
It can for sure, fwiw
dusky bear
simple spire
Something like Barb 9-10/Fighter 2-3 is still gonna be pretty good
Alternately, Fighter 11/Barb 1
Lots of splits can work
It's too bad Giant Barbarian isn't out yet
That looks extremely funny
dusky bear
indeed
ya know i feel like just going pure barbarian and have her wear heavy armor
i mean fighter
simple spire
That'll work out great
dusky bear
adamantine heavy armor here i go 
simple spire
You get three attacks, you get an extra feat, you get indomitable, you get action surge, you get a fighting style
Battlemaster is probably the best pick imo, although champion is refreshingly uncomplicated
dusky bear
i like battlemaster
soft tundra
truly ill keep giving my boring votes to just sticking to monoclass on a first run because it just works
dusky bear
i like making builds
soft tundra
for sure, i just like doing that within the same 12 levels haha
dusky bear
also i just noticed my folks got fully healed when travelling to a different region
are there any downsides to that?
like does time pass?
simple spire
Certain stuff progresses when you pass certain region things
dusky bear
dusky bear
i took the ||githyanki egg || do i get anything by keeping it?
gleaming pivot
Content.
dusky bear
actual content later on?
safe jungle
i took the ||githyanki egg || <:vicksyBork:996566504311099533> do i get anythin...
You don’t get anything by keeping it
But you might lose something by not keeping it
Keep it in Ley’zel’s bag for Content
Spoiler for outcomes
||sell it to the racist lady outside the temple and it will hatch and slaughter her and all her research comrades later including a friendly neighborhood mindflayer||
||keep it in Le’zhel’s bag and in the epilogue she’ll mention that it hatched and that she has made him her adoptive son||
safe jungle
it is very moral to kill cultists
dusky bear
@simple spire i have question
simple spire
Yo
dusky bear
Im im that ||shar place in act 2, with the flesh golem|| you know the one?
||a stinky guy named balthazar is here||
dusky bear
@simple spire
dusky bear
@simple spire anyway in the battle that insued against the || dark justiciars i turned on the skeletons right at the end and then i fought the flesh creatures including the flesh golem that went hostile immediately, but what's funny is that the balthazar guy didnt turn hostile he still gave me a quest and all, did i cheese the game?||
simple spire
<@288778606002569217> anyway in the battle that insued against the || dark just...
Huh, yeah, that kinda sounds like a bug? Was ||Balthazar in the room when you fought Flesh?||
dusky bear
|| he was, he just stood there watching, and when i talked to him he didn't give a shit about me killing the stuff||
hexed inlet
lol what a nerd
dusky bear
did i just make this fight against him easier? 
simple spire
Significantly
hexed inlet
skully don't click!!! ||on my first run I teamed up with him and then in the shadowfell saw him down there marked hostile, popped an invis, and threw him into the pit lol||
dusky bear
ok
hexed inlet
thank you very good job
deft crypt
I clicked
hexed inlet
you are allowed
deft crypt
No no I’m usually pretty quiet
neon junco
skully don't click!!! ||on my first run I teamed up with him and then in the sha...
||he did that to me, I learned how important initiative was cause a bunch of minions went first and pushed 3 of my party off the edge||
hexed inlet
lol oh no
simple spire
The main danger upstairs is that first fireball
dusky bear
i really need speak with animals
soft tundra
its a good spell! you might have some potions of it
hexed inlet
or scrolls
hexed inlet
dusky bear
ya know
i see no reason not to try and kill the ||funny devil near the rats|| immediately
do i lose much content by doing that?
hexed inlet
you can talk to him
dusky bear
i`m sort of save scumming by going back but i think i'll talk to him either way
like ||raphael is bad, but i dont think he was telling lies when he said this guy was also a big problem||
hexed inlet
good luck with whatever you try
soft tundra
There's some variations on what you get later on, but just do what feels right!
dusky bear
he's immune to by biggest strategy 
kaboom with barrels
im joking but still
i've been doing pretty well with the fights
wait....barrels might still work
shiiiiit nvm
this is going to be way harder than i thought
wait i have an idea
simple spire
Yeah he is the one who uses that strategy
dusky bear
spoilers
but yeah i see what u mean
i have a few ideas as to how im going to beat him
he is 2 levels above me but i hoard a lot of crap
time to use those 5 thousand coins
i can take him i know it
so here's my plan...i got the ||displacer beast on my side|| and my idea is to hit the lad with polymorph get him out of the fight for 4 turns and try my damn hardest to kill as many of the minions as i can, when he comes back i'll use 2 scrolls of phantasmal killer, have the 2 casting it be very quick lads that run away all the time and hope for the best 
while running for supplies i talked to the strange ox
no comment
dusky bear
nvm 20% chance of success 
fuck i dont wanna go lvl up!
i was scared for nothin 
titan string bow is silly
dusky bear
not yet
simple spire
I should do double hand crossbows next playthrough to be tbh
I just wish there was more compelling itemization for that
simple spire
Not sure
Really looking forward to Giant Barbarian since it will be able to throw all kinds of random bullshit
Including Beeg Sword
dusky bear
beeg
simple spire
There is one beeg sword in particular that I am thinking of
rich plover
🎉 our druid managed to doink Halsin even though we've avoided ever having him in the party
dusky bear
i'll say...this fight gave me a lot more trouble than i thought
The problem wasnt even the big guy it was the minions
I even used the kaboom booms against him
rich plover
Act 3 has the best names
dusky bear
Neat
Also i hope i didnt miss out on much by killing this dude i still have time to go back and change my mind but i reaaaaally wanted that fight
Maybe listening to ||raphael|| wasnt a smart move
deft crypt
how's the modding scene?
rich plover
robust, aiui
simple spire
Robust and officially supported as of patch 7
You can just download mods in-game
And it was robust even before that
dusky bear
you know what
fuck that
i dont feel bad about killing the ||big demon|| he had a bed made of corpses the guy who told me to might have had bad intentions but this guy was probably going to do horrible things if allowed to go free
dusky bear
the game really wants me to give shadowheart her very own special build doesnt it? @simple spire
with stealth stuff for sure
simple spire
the game really wants me to give shadowheart her very own special build doesnt i...
Why do you say so?
dusky bear
||bunch of special items for her that have stealth bonuses||
simple spire
Oh, I guess
rich plover
Wow, this bank's security is pretty terrible huh
It's a shame ||Jaheira||'s bugged out in our game, but it's not like we have space in the party for her with four PC multiplayer
simple spire
Was looking at the upcoming subclasses for Patch 8, most of these looking pretty amazing
rich plover
My friend: "He has a gamer casket"
neon junco
He does love games, but not video games he loves toying with people and playing mind games, also sadism
Assuming that's cazadors
rich plover
yeah
storm sinew
Imagine the RGB lighting on that casket
neon junco
Light from it would have carried you through act 2
dawn valley
The vampire equivalebt of the racibg care bed
hexed inlet
ooh is it out
simple spire
I appears to be out
Giant barb is a weirdly amazing thrown weapon user, incidentally
Since it can convert any weapon into a throw-and-return one
hexed inlet
oh neat
simple spire
Quite a few of the new subclasses look very rad
Arcane Archer is Battlemaster But Ranged
rich plover
Since it can convert any weapon into a throw-and-return one
that's kind of inexpilcable, but amazing. means you don't have to do eldritch knight for that trick
simple spire
Yeah weirdly giant is really heavily geared towards thrown
It also gets a "kick you away" action to regain distance
rich plover
does it have to pick a specific weapon to buff, or is it just anything they throw? our group's EK keeps running into bugs where his returning weapons don't
simple spire
I'm not complaining though
I think it's the weapon it's wielding when they go into rage
IIRC
rich plover
Yeah weirdly giant is really heavily geared towards thrown
tbf, that's like the one unique mechanical thing Giants have gotten to do. throw rock. 🫳 🪨
simple spire
I think the effect also adds some extra elemental damage to the weapon
Critically by adding the Thrown trait to weapons, it means you can throw a greater variety of things with their full effects
Most weapons get treated as random objects for this purpose
But now you can throw Big Sword and it will behave like Big Sword
I believe this is the 6th level subclass feature
At 3rd they do get an extra damage boost on thrown weapons I think?
This stuff is all up on BG3wiki
Hexblade looked pretty solid, Bladesinger's going to enable some really cool gish builds, Star druid seems like an interesting radiant damage specialist, uh
rich plover
in paper star druid is one of the few efficient healers, right? since it can just plop down a constellation and have it heal people round after round?
simple spire
You can, although the healing in question is not amazing
And life cleric's healing was already quite nice
I bet you could combine them
rich plover
huh. and this implementation of Stars is just buffing healing from a spell slot 🤔 good with healing word, I guess
simple spire
Life cleric + stars would probably be rad
Something like Star Druid 9-11/Life Cleric 1-3 would wreck shop, I suspect
(Alternately Light Cleric 2-3 if you want to go all in on radiant damage shenanigans)
Or maybe something like Light 5/Star 7?
For spirit guardians
New paladin also gets spirit guardians
Not much to say about Glamour, Death, or Drunk
I think the winners are Barb, Druid, Fighter, Warlock, Wizard, and to a lesser extent Ranger, Rogue, and Paladin
safe jungle
Yeah weirdly giant is really heavily geared towards thrown
Oh my god
simple spire
Shadow Sorcerer is pretty whocares
safe jungle
I can throw two handed swords
simple spire
Ranger gets Swarmkeeper
simple spire
Swarmkeeper looks strong but also hard to gauge
tacit sluice
~~Oh no~~
I love the implication at the end that ||Shadowheart and Karlach are in lesbians||
simple spire
Crown paladin gets a really nice attack bonus boost at 1st, a tanking ability at 7th, and notably gets spirit guardians when it picks up 3rd-level spells
simple spire
I love the implication at the end that ||Shadowheart and Karlach are in lesbians...
They've been a very popular pairing in fan circles
tacit sluice
Well yeah, look at 'em
safe jungle
Shadow heart also clearly is drooling over Karlach when she meets her
simple spire
I feel like Lae'zel is the one who clearly has a crush on Karlach, personally
safe jungle
Every girl has a crush on karlach
simple spire
But in particular, trans Karlach + cis Shadowheart has had a lot of traction
safe jungle
Except maybe minthata
severe robin
What does Warlock get?
safe jungle
Hex blade subclass
severe robin
Ah, thank you
simple spire
Which looks quite nice
But not mandatory for melee warlock since blade pact is improved
Death Cleric and Glamour Bard and Shadow Sorcerer and tragically Drunken Monk all look completely uninteresting
tacit sluice
But in particular, trans Karlach + cis Shadowheart has had a lot of traction
Care to elaborate? I'm not in circles that discuss that, apparently
simple spire
I've just seen it around
Not much to elaborate on
I mean the m/m pairings are, shockingly, a way bigger deal on AO3
But that's normal
hexed inlet
But in particular, trans Karlach + cis Shadowheart has had a lot of traction
that's wholesome esp since shart has a trans friend
hexed inlet
fr
deft crypt
what're the new classes?
hexed inlet
they're subclasses, and it's these
deft crypt
ty
neon junco
Ooooo yes, now whether to do hex blade or bladeslinger first
Love gish
Drunken master is very tempting since end game there's a good amount of drunk relates gear
charred niche
Also they just love leaving mead and wine everywhere
hexed inlet
there's a lot of alcohol throughout the game yeah
dawn terrace
dusky bear
I use a lot of alcohol in this game
I use it cause its flammable
I hoarded every kind of barrel you can think of
Water ones too, didnt use them much tho
neon junco
A lot of time I'd just use water "grenades" instead (they're water balloons)
dusky bear
never seen one
hexed inlet
they're bottles of water
safe jungle
Yeah battles of water
You throw it at people to get them wet
And then use electrifying spells on them
hexed inlet
there is also a magic stick in act 1 that makes wet
simple spire
Cold spells also do double damage vs. wet
I think in Act 3 you find a trident that inflicts wet on hit? Not very good otherwise, but with giant Barb you might get good use out of it
Depending on how exactly it works, a big thing with giant Barb may be weapon switching
Probably not worth redoing the ol’ animal Barb/fighter/rogue build with swashbuckler instead of thief but
Really interested in the potential of a cleric/stars druid multiclass
Druid 10/Life 2 or Druid 5-7/Light 5-7 both seem pretty amazing
neon junco
Lightning damage I think too
One of the most broke builds used water puddles, Larian can't help but add environmental puddles
simple spire
Yep, electricity and cold both
They actually nerfed a high-level combo for that though
The big Water Myrmidon heal used to cause AoE wet
So you used it when the enemies were still at max hp
... fuck, if Hexblade gets Extra Attack (which it does), does that mean blade pact hexblade gets 3 attacks (except on Honour Mode)?
Hell, even if that doesn't work, Hexblade makes Warlock 12 look extremely attractive
rich plover
lol
simple spire
Hexblade 9+ can upcast Elemental Weapon to get an increased bonus
rich plover
I don't see extra attack on https://bg3.wiki/wiki/The_Hexblade, but I don't know if it's fully up to date
simple spire
It's listed on the pages for Warlock and Extra Attack, but it may have been cut for the full patch release
Since it looks like the Hexblade page has been updated more recently
Anyway, I guess I'm gonna run a pure warlock
... I wonder if you can bind Shadow Blade as a hex weapon
Upcast with a 5th-level slot it does 4d8 damage
Psychic damage is not the most amazing thing late game, but still
simple spire
Trying to decide if the ideal play for a paladin/bladesinger is to actually just ignore bladesong entirely
deft crypt
why would you do that combo?
simple spire
Smite with 6th level spell slots
Paladin 2/Blade Bard 10 is really excellent, and I'm pondering Paladin 2/Wizard 6+ now
Bladesong is nice but it's also very restrictive
But Bladesinger gets the most important thing: an extra attack at level 6, like blade bard
And wizard has its spell-learning bullshit to enable grabbing levels in some other caster class
Something like Paladin 2/Bladesinger 8/Sorcerer 1/Cleric 1 would be excellent
safe jungle
Thinking of starting a new run
sonic pollen
note to self: shadowheart origin is not a great choice for honour mode
simple spire
Oh?
safe jungle
Oh yeah
Because you are gonna have to fight the initial battle with two chars
Not three
Makes sense to me
sonic pollen
nah.
i just got murdered by the intellect devourers on the beach
getting out of the ship is mostly fine, you can pretty much just run past the enemies if things get hairy
the difference between 1 and 2 party members is rough
soft tundra
honor mode they have The Lasers
simple spire
They have them in Tactician, too
soft tundra
yeah, its rough stuff
simple spire
But yeah it makes them a lot more deadly
soft tundra
makes that level 1/2 fragility stand out
simple spire
... okay this is probably stupid but Dex-based bladesinger 6/blade bard 3/sorcerer 1/paladin 2 is somehow a coherent build
It only gets 1 feat which sucks but
safe jungle
Oh you can actually cool down karlach by throwing bottles of water at her
That’s really funny ngl
dusky bear
I tried that once and was very surprised it worked
neon junco
Is there a scene where you can like try to kiss karlach by taking an item that grants fire resistant during the dialogue and you try and the kiss happens but you recoil from the pain but karlach is still happy about it? Or is that just the default reaction
neon junco
Oh you can actually cool down karlach by throwing bottles of water at her
I love the small details Larian puts into moments
A small minority of players would ever think and try to steal barrel of explosive mid dialogue but they had something for that
Or one for saving the gnome from nere by just starting the fight mid dialogue and they survive and thank you
rich plover
Is there a scene where you can like try to kiss karlach by taking an item that g...
If you're a tiefling there's the option to say "I'm resistant to fire and willing to take that risk" but she says "that's sweet and also a terrible idea, no"
neon junco
I think you can do it with a status effect fire resistance ironically
Like a fire resist potion or water balloons on yourself
simple spire
Not actually sure
Swash is much more specifically about sneak attack, perhaps ironically
I would take Rogue to at least 7
Probably 8 for the feat
charred niche
Did they ever add more feats?
simple spire
Fighter 1-2 would be good for a fighting style and maybe Action Surge
charred niche
Fighter 1-2 is great just for the sheer amount of magic weapons ingame
Though swash probably has that handled
simple spire
You're still going to be using rogue weapons, really
Since that's what works with sneak attack
charred niche
I was thinking big ranged nonsense but then 'wait the swashbuckling'
simple spire
You could definitely do worse than Rogue 8/Fighter 4
Probably Battlemaster
Be nice to get a second fighting style for dueling and defense, though ...
I would strongly consider using Phalar Aluve as your weapon all the way through the game, just so that you can get Great Weapon Mastery
Savage Attacker is higher priority, though
(Also Phalar Aluve is goddamn amazing)
Oh! You know what could be really cool? Rogue 8/Fighter 1/Ranger 3 (Colossus Slayer or Gloomstalker, personally I prefer the former)
That gets you two fighting styles, an extra damage die against wounded enemies for colossus slayer, another extra damage die from hunter's mark, and ... fuck, Ensnaring Strike would be solid here as well
So Bounty Hunter and maybe Urban Tracker for another skill proficiency
All of which gives you a really good single attack every turn, reasonably solid defenses (especially once the medium armor w/full dex bonus shows up in Act 2), plenty of stuff to do with your bonus actions, and a lot of skills.
For the greatest possible number of skills, start with rogue. For very marginally preferable saves, start with ranger.
Endgame weapons would probably be the legendary daggers from ||Orin||, with Crimson Mischief in the main hand and Bloodletter in the off-hand for its passive effects
I don't actually remember if you can equip a hand crossbow + shield in your ranged slot? Probably not? But if you can, that's ideal probably
... oh but that wouldn't work with dueling style
I dunno
I guess you could actually do two-weapon fighting but that would eat up your bonus actions for swashbuckler nonsense
Or you could take Ranger to 4 for that feat, instead of Fighter for the style
Tbh the single greatest issue here is that I don't think swashbuckler really does anything
Early on it will make your sneak attacks marginally more reliable
But you want advantage anyway, and there are numerous ways to get it by the mid-levels
And since your intelligence score will probably be middling or bad, the save DCs on your swashbuckler bonus actions will be easily passed by most consequential enemies
soft tundra
in one of my current test runs, i've been doing a swashbuckler astarion and its felt really good. while gkathellar is right that theres many ways to get your advantage going, its really nice to be able to reliably solo get your sneak attack damage in in stickier situations / weirder moments you end up in; or at least i end up in some odd combats in honor mode haha.
the real sauce to abuse is Dirty Trick Flick of the Wrist; its extra uses of Command for dropping weapons!!
soft tundra
I was thinking big ranged nonsense but then 'wait the swashbuckling'
it works with ranged in bg3!
simple spire
it works with ranged in bg3!
... okay that might be a significant niche for swashbuckler
Because advantage is much harder to get consistently at range
So like ... I dunno, bow swashbuckler?
That would probably be pretty rad
charred niche
Wait so swashbuckler just gets sneak attacks if the enemy has no one around?
pinning shot has a lot to say about that
soft tundra
yeah, and it lets you set up stuff if you throw some CC from someone else out first
simple spire
Yeah, so ... fuckin' Swash 8/Arcane Archer 4
soft tundra
ooo ill give that a try next
charred niche
The Audacity Of This Big Huge Gun I Found
simple spire
And since that gets you 3 feats you can pick up a Dex ASI, Savage Attacker, and Sharpshooter
charred niche
Does savage work with all the sneakdice
charred niche
oh it does say melee only though
simple spire
Oh is it?
charred niche
but still good grab for optional stabbing
simple spire
That's a shame
soft tundra
the other feature i like swash for, as basic as it is, is the fancy footwork giving you immunity to opp attacks if you melee attack. just another nice bit of insurance on a few of those honor mode killer combats
simple spire
That could also be quite nice for ranged swash
Just as an escape plan
Switch to melee, do a dual-wield attack with a bonus action, gtfo, do a ranged attack
I guess you could skip Savage Attacker and take fighter to 5 for extra attack.
Won't work with sneak attack but you won't always land the first hit, so backup is nice
And it's not like the other damage would be bad
Oooh, murdoc, question: does flick of the wrist just do basic weapon damage, or does it add modifiers and miscellaneous bonuses and such?
soft tundra
hmm good question, im early on in this run so i dont have much equipment quite yet
simple spire
Well, is it adding dex bonus to damage or whatever?
I'm asking because if it is, that's a bonus action attack with an additional effect right there
simple spire
Hmmmm hunter ranger 5/thief rogue 6/fighter 1
For the basic dual-wielding rogue archetype
dawn valley
People : "I'll spec karlach in the path of giant cause shés tall and a barbarian"
Me : " I'll spec her into a drunken master cause she know how to party"
vague sedge
Others spec her into Giant because she's tall and strong. I spec her into Giant because a subclass that specializes in beating enemies to death with their friends is the most in character thing for Karlach
I went Hexblade Warlock/Swords Bard for this playthrough. Is it still worth taking Pact of the Blade for the extra attack even though Hexblade does most of the other stuff it does?
rich plover
If most of your turns are attacking, extra attack will about double the damage you deal
vague sedge
Swords Bard gets an extra attack too but the nice thing is that the Blade Pact one stacks since it counts as an effect of the Blade Pact buff instead of a class feature
simple spire
I mean yeah, something like Bard 7/Warlock 5 will absolutely be rock solid
Not that in Honour mode the two do not stack
My hot take is Fighter 1 or Sorcerer 1/Bard 6/Warlock 5
Or just Bard 6/Warlock 6 (I have no idea whether Accursed Specter justifies this)
- Fighter 1/Bard 6/Warlock 5: Start with fighter to get heavy armor, a fighting style, and con-save proficiency (you are a caster, you want this bad), but lose 4th-level spells
- Sorcerer 1/Bard 6/Warlock 5: Start with sorcerer to get con-save proficiency, shield spell, and some other handy 1st-rank spell like magic missile or something, but only gain 4th rank slots and no actual 4th rank spells known
- Bard 6/Warlock 6: Get Accursed specter, but no 4th-level spells
- Bard 7/Warlock 5: Get 4th-level spells
deft crypt
is that a giant sickle or a shotel/khopesh
neon junco
I assume sickle as that's a weapon in the game
dawn valley
I heard somewhere that Shart VA found her wife or girlfriend on BG3. So was it Karlach VA ?
neon junco
Yes about girlfriend but no for karlach , Jennifer English's girlfriend was the MO cap director and also voice of Corina the squirrel
Her girlfriend also made her realize she has adhd and how to manage it without medication
Which would explain why sharts movements were so familiar, she has a lot of adhd fidgeting
They stream together too and they're a very cute couple
neon junco
Damn Larian won't give up corpse exploding, death domain has a corpse explosion cantrip
deft crypt
pretty sure you're not allowed to do that
dawn valley
Thanks for the answer verry instructive
deft crypt
Me, there’s no corpses around me
dawn valley
Me, there’s no corpses around me
Make new one
simple spire
Accursed Specter power?
neon junco
Yup
simple spire
How are the specters?
neon junco
I was looking at the wiki so I don't know
neon junco
The new subclasses, most seem to be ones added from the non core rulebooks, seem to be strong
Paladin subclasses have always been great but crown having spiritual weapon as a sub for zone of truth is wild
Spiritual weapon and spirit guardian on top of paladin? Beautiful
simple spire
Spirit guardians doesn't come until level 11, though, and won't be upcast. Still handy, but
What I'm personally excited about with Crown is its level 1 ability
neon junco
It was good in ttrpg but I'm sure if it's the best build in bg3 considering the many strong magic weapons. I was thinking bladeslinger with upcasted shadow blade
Arcane acuity seems to add quite a bit and gloves of dexterity for 18 dex no investment early on and pump only int
I don't know if there's any weapons I'd use instead of shadow blade, it deals a lot of damage and lasts for a long rest so not a big cost either
simple spire
Phalar Aluve lets you do Great Weapon Mastery with Bladesinger
And is generally disproportionately strong
hexed inlet
there's the other longsword with finesse too
I think it's the one the gith creche trader sells
simple spire
There is, although I wouldn't use it over Phalar Aluve
But if that's with somebody else
Seems reasonable
If not doing GWM, there's a bunch of other good stuff one could snag
Especially late-game
neon junco
Pretty much every Melee build that isn't monk I've used GWM, it's just very strong
neon junco
Dual wield seems interesting since I could have a main hand weapon and offhand be a staff of sorts to play into casting too
I don't know how many bonus actions wizards tend to get
There's quite a few magic items that use bonus actions but I can't think of many useful for a gish off the top of my head
simple spire
You'll need the dual wield feat for that
Not a ton
I've been considering something like Sorcerer (Draconic) 1/Paladin (Crown) 2/Bard (Blade) 6/Wizard (Bladesinger) 3, although the low number of memorized spells would be a pain to live with on the wizard side
If you're using one of the arcane acuity hats, an off-hand attack is a solid pick for that
Will help you build stacks faster
(I think it would need to be fire or thunder acuity, though, since the all attacks one is medium armor iirc?)
simple spire
I've been considering something like Sorcerer (Draconic) 1/Paladin (Crown) 2/Bar...
And only one feat auuuuugh
simple spire
If Bladesong were usable in medium armor this would be so much easier
Bah. Wizard 8/Paladin 2/Bard 1/Sorcerer 1 it is, I suppose
Gonna do an origin playthrough of either Gale or Astarion
neon junco
Does bladesong not work in medium armor?
Oh I see, it didn't show on wiki Excerpt, well that changes some things. I was gonna go gith for armor
simple spire
It only works in light
neon junco
hexed inlet
it's pretty neat
neon junco
Huh is Bladesong climax a bg3 homebrew? I don't remember it in ttrpg but I'm thinking how I can use this
hexed inlet
weapon attacks add a healing charge and spell attacks add a damage charge
neon junco
Or rather, make it broke
neon junco
The death domain corpse explosion cantrip seems fun since death domain can target 2 corpses
hexed inlet
so can toll the dead
neon junco
And you can overlap AoE of the corpses so double damage if you happen to have corpses next to an enemy
10 ft radius too
Seems fun but I don't know if I can do much more with that cantrip, toll the dead is kind very powerful on death domain
simple spire
Holy shit, according to wiki, Booming Blade doesn't prevent you from doing an extra attack
That's incredibly good
neon junco
I forgot about booming blade
Booming blade with a shadow blade seems amazing
Maybe something with eldritch knight
When did booming blade get added?
simple spire
This patch
neon junco
Damn that means eldritch knight gets 4 attacks
simple spire
Does it?
neon junco
Makes GWM stronger
simple spire
I'm not sure of the wiki's exact meaning but I think what is meant is either Booming Blade + Regular Attack is doable, or that repeated Booming Blades are doable (which would be completely insane)
neon junco
War magic to bonus action booming blade then 3 regular attacks as an action
simple spire
Aha
neon junco
Repeated booming blades would be absolutely broke
Maybe I'll try it, respect end game just to see if that is how it works
Only based on wiki, it's says it's a Melee weapon attack and extra attack says something similar, if it's for some reason coded to allow 3 booming blades with fighter extra attack that'd be wild
simple spire
Complete nonsense, yeah
It does seem like the spell has some weird bugs
I guess we'll see how hotfixes adjust those
But I'm looking at Fighter 4 (?)/Warlock (Hexblade) 2/Bard (Swords) 6 and thinking "huh. HUH."
Finally a use for the ring of elemental infusion
neon junco
I'm sure every power gamer thought of this but, hex blade 6, paladin 5, magic adept for booming blade
Or just sorcerer 1
simple spire
Hexblade can get Booming Blade natively
Warlock in general can
Finally a use for that second warlock cantrip >_>
I'm probably take Paladin to 6 for the aura
safe jungle
Aura farming
simple spire
And hell, in honor mode, Hexblade 1/Paladin 11 would hit like a bus
Hell, Hexblade 12 has pretty strong appeal as well
hexed inlet
hexblade gets smites and booming blade what more do you need
and as if that's not enough it's warlock so you also have a Gun
simple spire
Does hexblade get smites? Did they add eldritch smite to the game?
hexed inlet
they have smites in their subclass spell list
simple spire
Oh the spells
hexed inlet
you get wrathful, branding, staggering, and banishing
simple spire
Yeah, and you are also the only class that can upcast Elemental Weapon
But smite spells suffer from requiring a bonus action
My newest awful idea is fighter 1/bard 4/paladin 6/warlock 1
Three fighting styles, two feats, booming blade, cha to all saves, cha to attack and damage
That seems solid
Oh and 4th-level spell slots for smiting
Dropping fighter for warlock 2 would also be very nice, you'd lose a fighting style and constitution save proficiency but hmmmm
Another short-rest slot for low-end smites, functional eldritch blast ...
severe robin
Would a single-class Bladesinger be good, do you all think?
neon junco
I'd want to say yes, there's a good set of early game gish items in act 1 so it's not a build that you need to wait until end of game for
Shadowblade and booming blade combo is a very reliable combo that doesn't rely on items already
On top of being a wizard
soft tundra
Everything single class is good in bg3
We just have people who really like to optimize to hell and back here :P
neon junco
There's quite a few class specific magic items that really benefits single classing too
I multiclass mostly for variety, I've done mostly a the single classes in ttrpg
Aside from a few meta builds most mutli classes aren't really an upgrade over single classing just does something unique that single classes don't in bg3
soft tundra
And in regards to the harder modes in bg3 like honor mode, Information and sequencing your EXP gain to delay certain combats/events is more important than your build imo
at least in Act One
neon junco
Early game is probably where you're going to wipe most so the downside multiclassing coming online later is kind a good downside
You could respec really at any time though if you want to single class early game then do the build later
Honor mode nerfs many wonky multiclass combos too
simple spire
Step 1: Download the mod that lets non-clerics have deities
Step 2: Play Astarion origin
Step 3: Choose Selune with the pretext that Astarion would absolutely take up worship of Selune specifically to antagonize Shadowheart if he were the main character
Step 4: There is no step 4
hexed inlet
"what's this saucer doing out? does one of you have a cat"
neon junco
That would be something Astarion would do
simple spire
Not certain this would work, but I think the Hexblade/Blade Pact might enable dual wielding the hex and pact weapons?
simple spire
Ah, no, it does not
If you already have hexblade, you just ... don't get anything at the level you pick pact of the blade
vague sedge
Yeah, I wish. I'm dual wielding right now on my Bard/Warlock with dex as my secondary stat and it works and is fun, but it's is far from optimal.
simple spire
Okay, I figured something out
This requires the Dual Wielder feat, which is very annoying
But eventually you get the Infernal Rapier (end of act 2) and the Harmonic Dueller (super-early act 3)
You make Harmonic Dueller your hex weapon
And Infernal Rapier gets to use your Cha even without that
Harmonic Dueller in particular is good here because of its active ability, Mellow Harmony, which adds +Cha modifier damage to your melee attacks if you can make a DC 15 performance check
@vague sedge This seems like it might be especially relevant to your interests, if you can find the feat for it
You can of course do something other than Mellow Harmony
Plenty of other good options
And since you have Dual Wield you can choose uh ... any of them
Carry around Markoheshkir for shits and giggles
vague sedge
Can I still get the rapier if I make ||Mizora break Wyll's contract?||
simple spire
I think so, yes, you just have to ask for a reward
But I am not 100% positive
The non-Dual Wield feat option here would be Sylvan Scimitar
Which is light
In Act 3 you could also use https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Belm as a pure stat-stick, since it lets you make a bonus-action attack with your main weapon
Honestly that might be better than any of the other choices
hexed inlet
tf is belm
simple spire
Thinking about it, Markoheshkir in the main hand and Belm in the off-hand might even be optimal for certain setups, moreso if Booming Blade gets fixed to work with the thunder damage bonus
Although that still requires the feat -_-
Plenty of other good light weapons, though
Or "skip all this nonsense, just use Dueller's Prerogative"
vague sedge
well now I have to go do a full playthrough to go look
There's a bunch of good loot down there and some interesting story for Jaheira
simple spire
Main-hand belm + rhapsody would be another good late-game setup
Just using rhapsody entirely as a stat-stick
WAIT SHILLELAGH
severe robin
Hey very important question:
Can I Bladesong with a polearm?
rich plover
You must be wielding a Dagger, Longsword, Rapier, Scimitar, Shortsword, or Sickle.
The requirement to be wielding a dagger, longsword, etc. applies to both hands as of Patch 8 release.
looks like no
rich plover
just booming blade, I think
simple spire
Just Booming Blade
But
You can throw out a Booming Blade and then do your extra attacks
Non-divine smite gishes are allowed to be good now
(Maybe too good)
Speaking of which, I think the very simple "I'm going to stab him in the face" Bladesinger would just be eldritch knight 8/bladesinger 2/paladin 2
Bladesong, con save proficiency, 3 feats, smite, booming blade, 3rd level spells, war casting. Nothing fancy, but it'll work.
Probably crown paladin
Best for a dip by far
severe robin
Does Bladesinger get unique weapon animations, or are those the monk ones?
simple spire
I don’t think it does but I’m not positive
hexed inlet
no it does
simple spire
Speaking of which, I think the very simple "I'm going to stab him in the face" B...
Also if you can stand to lose a feat you can drop fighter to 7 for basically whatever 1-level dip sounds fun
severe robin
Is there any way to make it so that selecting a party member doesn't drag your camera over to them
neon junco
Do you mean selecting by clicking on portrait
I don't think there is, probably a mod for it. A workaround is selecting multiple members
severe robin
Why did they change it it's an awful change
It used to be you had to doubleclick to zoom to them
dawn terrace
I have discovered an issue in that the radial menu the console version uses is broken for me. When I open up the menu to select an option for something it doesn't close when I selected option. I have to open the pause menu to get to go away so I can actually do things.
grave prism
going in for another run, trying to decide what imma do class wise
thinking imma go with circle of stars druid and do two levels of multiclass
was looking at Death Domain cleric but it didn't seem that great due to lack of items boosting necrotic until later in the game
saw an interesting idea for 2 levels of Circle of stars and 10 levels of death domain
does lose out on 6th level spell slots tho
no heavy armor proficiency if i go with the death domain cleric, which i could get if i forgo a level while doing circle of stars druid with say, a level in War Priest Cleric or something
gonna need to have a think about it and look at some stuff
simple spire
thinking imma go with circle of stars druid and do two levels of multiclass
Cleric 2/Druid 10 is very strong here, especially since druid likes getting the 6th-level slot but does not care much about the 6th level spells
grave prism
ic ic
simple spire
There's other options but it's a straightforward choice
grave prism
yeah
think imma either go 2 war priest/10 circle of Stars or 1 Shadow Magic/11 Death Domain
grave prism
could do something funny with shadow magic, orc and death ward since they all stop you from dying if you reach 0 health
hexed inlet
I wonder if they all proc at once or if you get 3 separate times
grave prism
found a post saying that strength of the grave and relentless endurance at least should work
hexed inlet
probably not that strong? a lot of damage in bg3 comes in multiple ticks
grave prism
yeah but it would be funny tho
hexed inlet
lol
simple spire
think imma either go 2 war priest/10 circle of Stars or 1 Shadow Magic/11 Death ...
You might want to consider Light over war
Stars gets a lot of radiance stuff, and further optimizing it is solid
The Light Channel Divinity is very nice as a big radiance AoE that doesn't hit your party
grave prism
that does sound good
i do kinda want heavy armor
i guess i could feat for it
i took war cause more bonus actions as well as heavy armor
safe jungle
But what if I could play ten thousand more years of eldritch warlock
grave prism
fair
yeah torn between 1 shadow magic/11 Death Domain or 2 Cleric/10 circle of stars
grave prism
leaning towards 2 Cleric/10 Circle of Stars rn and i kinda fw 2 levels of War Domain over 2 levels of Light Domain, even if i think Light might be a bit better
simple spire
i do kinda want heavy armor
There's actually a suit of medium armor that is BIS by far for radiant damage users, fwiw. Shows relatively early in the game.
This bullshit https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Luminous_Armour
Anyway, go war if you think it's cool!
Just my opinion re: optimization
grave prism
damn
that does seem
a bit good actually
I think i may lock in 2 Light Domain/10 Circle of Stars based on that existing
Yeah i think that's the ticket
simple spire
There's a bunch of other items that go really well with that, like https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Boots_of_Stormy_Clamour
Plus some damage boosting rings and whatnot
grave prism
interesting
grave prism
run started
grave prism
Gonna be interesting cuse we're doing a Bhaal ending honor mode run as far as i understand
grave prism
dawn terrace
I am thinking a 5/7 hexblade shadow sorcerer build. Should the seven be in Sorc or warlock?
simple spire
I'm inclined to say hexblade but it could go either way
Hidden 3rd option: Paladin 2/Hexblade 5/Sorcerer 5
dawn terrace
True! But like the extra flexibility and power the evocations from 7th level warlock give.
dawn terrace
Remember my problem with the radial menu? It was a mods fault.
grave prism
ahhhhh
dawn terrace
Better context menu specifically, it's not been updated for consoles for patch 8 yet, just PC.
grave prism
😔
me and my friends are not running any mods simply to avoid update problems
doing a Durge Honor run atm
dawn terrace
Fair, I just can't live without my hair, horns, and dye mods.
grave prism
honestly fair
half our party are weirdo's and me and my other friend took character creation seriously
one of our party is called Lebronius Jamses which i feel encapsulates just about how seriously the other two took it
vague sedge
grave prism
Real
dawn terrace
Speaking of... To bite off Gale's hand, or leave it attached to him...
hexed inlet
get that mod that glams him up
dawn terrace
What mod?
dawn terrace
So swashbuckler always getting to sneak attack unless they have disadvantage is really good right?
simple spire
It is and isn't
Getting advantage for sneaks can be pretty trivial for melee rogues, but
It also works for ranged rogues
Which rips
grave prism
Circle of stars is kinda funny cause i can play healer, range or melee
Archer constellation is kinda crazy for giving that much damage on a bonus action at range
1d8+ spellcaster modifier of radiant damage
Goes up to 2d8 when you get to lvl 10 which is perfect cause i'm doing 2 light cleric/10 circle of statrs druid
Gonna go crazy when i get my build going and start getting crazy bonus damage off of radiant attacks
neon junco
Arcane Archer has some strong buffs for bonus actions iirc
Bladesinger even has a new pounce bonus action that heals and deals damage
severe robin
Right! They added Arcane Archer. Is it good?
neon junco
In terms of fighter it's kind of a better battlemaster for ranged weapons
Which it being more specialized makes sense, deals more damage since basically every arcane arrow grants 2d6 extra damage
dawn terrace
I am once again, mad. I forgot to turn delete a double xp mod from my pre-patch 8 modlist. So that's two hours down the drain.
lucid locust
Replaying divinity original sin 2 and MAN I want Larian to take all that sweet sweet wizards coast/mega success money and go ahead and make divinity original sin 3 I can only imagine
neon junco
I believe that's what they're doing, they don't really make promises until they're already doing it but next game they do is going to be one of their own
Likely DOS3 or another Divinity series
Iirc they don't foresee working with another company’s IP like that again
simple spire
They were not terribly forthcoming about it but they expressed some dismay about the shakeups at WotC
neon junco
Probably quite a bit more behind the scenes
simple spire
Yep
neon junco
We can probably mark off anything like a KOTOR by Larian, they've usually either worked solo or had a studio under them and not the other way around
simple spire
They said something to the effect of “everyone we worked with is gone”
soft tundra
Right! They added Arcane Archer. Is it good?
its a lot of fun in bg3 because bg3 has fun bows to complement it, if that makes sense
neon junco
I haven't tried it but can you use an arcane shot with an elemental arrow?
grave prism
did a bursting sinew
hit three people
all of them saved
the lowest anything has rolled against me in the last like 5 rolls is 19 😭
grave prism
tried to talk to minthara and biffed it so bad we had to IMMEDIATELY try to kill her
soft tundra
such is drow life
grave prism
hoooooooly shit
soft tundra
being raised in the Racial Supremacy Misandrist Town will do that
grave prism
we dropped Minthara and two goblins into the hole by breaking the bridge
soft tundra
thats fun
grave prism
and we managed to gang up on the roaming guy to stop him from fucking us by alerting the whole camp
soft tundra
i feel too compelled to keep minthy alive nowadays
grave prism
we wanted her loot
but like
we could not afford her to escape
and she was going to kill our rogue
lost out on her loot and ability to interact with her but uhhhhh
better than having to fight the entire camp
and better than not being able to long rest because the whole camp was going to attack after we long rested
safe jungle
Alll that defensive combat enchantment
And he forgot to cast featherfall on himself
While fighting on a fucking tower
safe jungle
Good thing I have an amulet that gives me featherfall
simple spire
But you would imagine he'd have something that gives it to him permanently
simple spire
Hm, actually, how many items are there that give permanent featherfall? There's Nyrulna, what else?
simple spire
No it's the trident
safe jungle
There’s an amulet that gives you permanent featherfall
And also polymorph into raven
And also gives you jump height and distance boost
simple spire
Aye
safe jungle
I think that’s it unless you count mystra’s Grace which gives you unlimited cast of featherfall
Trying to raise my spell DC to ever more ridiculous heights
But I’m fairly confident that I can roflstomp basically any of the so called steel watch with hold monster
simple spire
It is quite fun that first time your PC just fuckin' solos one of those dicks
safe jungle
I just hold monster
simple spire
I was stealing Gortash's gloves, and I sent my Paladin/Bard up on the roof alone to do it
safe jungle
And then astarion does disarming flick
simple spire
And just brawled it out
safe jungle
So my karlach can carry around a ridiculous 100kg sword
simple spire
should be able to throw it with giant barb
safe jungle
Yessss
neon junco
being raised in the Racial Supremacy Misandrist Town will do that
I kind of appreciate how if you romance Minthara as a non drow male she doesn't do like a 180 in her beliefs. She does like a 90 turn of "everyone male doesn't deserve rights as inferior beings" to "maybe there's hope for your kind if you're on equal footing with me"
She remains just as evil
It sort of irks me when like evil companions become good people immediately at the end of a story despite a lifetime of intense beliefs, Minthara gets nudged a bit
hexed inlet
minthara does also have the absolute cult thing goin on
to a degree she's not really accountable for her act 1 actions
and talks to you about it if you helped her
neon junco
Act 2 and beyond she's still racist and misandrist
And I guess wizardist?
She shits so much on Gale if they're in a party together cause he marks all of her 3 bigotry markers
And Gales usually is like "what did I even do to warrant this"
hexed inlet
oh yeah she's still a shitter but it puts her from "mustache twirling comically evil" to "flawed fucked up little gremlin"
neon junco
Absolute is just a silly guy
charred niche
Tbf Gale can hit a tone that seems like it would specifically make Minthara insane
That touch of smugness
hexed inlet
lol very true
neon junco
Absolute has a super Saturday morning cartoon agenda of world dominance
hexed inlet
he's not trying to be smug but he's succeeding regardless
charred niche
It's his upbringing tbh he had no chance
neon junco
he's not trying to be smug but he's succeeding regardless
Probably this, drow have a bad history with wizards, with male elves, with non elves. Minthara would be fine with Gale being a human man wizard if he was like a failure
He's awkward but like up until recently he was doing well
Him being like, I'm built different isn't unsurprising since he had Mystras direct blessing. Elminster had a bit that and went a lot of places and Elminster was basically Gales granddad
charred niche
Elminster is Gale but with a bit more savvy and wisdom, Gale got all up into the magic business and forgot where he was
neon junco
Being a powerful wizard for centuries with the goddess of magics direct support is a helluva drug
He also transed for a bit
simple spire
"Slept with Mystra" is also not that big an honor to be tbh
grave prism
we killed the owlbear also
and we cleaned out all of the merchants again
so we have like, 7k gold
also i'm one step closer to having 2 pieces of my armor set i'm putting together
got the chest piece
and i'm going to get the boots
run is going good so far
got some minor to major hiccups
only got close to a party wipe once and even then, it wasn't that close cause our rogue got away extremely easily
simple spire
What did you end up doing character-wise?
grave prism
went with 2 Light Cleric/10 Circle of Stars Druid
i've got 2 levels in cleric and 2 in circle of stars atm
simple spire
Gotcha
grave prism
so from now on it's just going to be druid levels
simple spire
I've been weighing that against Light Cleric 5+/Circle of Stars Druid 7-, just for spirit guardians
grave prism
i've so far got the Luminous armor and i'm going to get the boots of stormy clamor soon
simple spire
Pondering, shall we say
grave prism
fair nuff
simple spire
Nice
I think really almost regardless of how you break it down, it's a good combination
grave prism
so far i've exclusively wildshaped as a cat to rob merchants and archer constellation for battle
grave prism
I think really almost regardless of how you break it down, it's a good combinati...
honestly yeah
simple spire
Have you gotten the chance to try the dragon at all?
grave prism
not really
simple spire
Curious how it went if so
grave prism
i want to tho
simple spire
But archer does look like the most straightforward pick
grave prism
i've just been using bow cause it's crazy good to be able to shoot my bow or use a ranged cantrip and then bonus action for the archer radiant bow shot
two attacks per turn so early in the game goes hard
simple spire
Yeah
grave prism
been having fun with it
also got a few items to boost healing so i will need to try out chalice at some point
my build is mostly about doing radiant damage at melee range as i understand it
so as soon as more of it comes online
i'll start using the dragon constellation
simple spire
I feel like when the semester ends and I actually do this new playthrough, I want to do something with giving Wyll the sword of balduran
Just feels appropriate for him to have it
grave prism
huh
simple spire
just give him eldritch knight 11 w/ booming blade duh
grave prism
three of the items i'm going to use apply radiating orb on things
When the wearer deals Damage TypesRadiant damage, they cause a Radiant Shockwave
simple spire
I believe there's a ring which does extra damage to illuminated enemies, btw
grave prism
When the wearer deals Damage TypesRadiant damage, the target receives 2 turn of Radiating Orb
simple spire
Which radiating orb will do
grave prism
When the wearer deals spell damage while illuminated by a light source, they also inflict Radiating Orb
grave prism
I believe there's a ring which does extra damage to illuminated enemies, btw
Callous glow ring, 2 extra radiant damage
simple spire
Aha
grave prism
basically
any enemy within 10 feet of me will get 2 turns of radiant orb
when i do radiant damage
then whatever i do radiant damage to will get 2 turns of radiant orb
then if i do spell damage while illuminated, i inflict radiant orb
and i deal 2 more damage on every instance of radiant damage to anything which is illuminated
simple spire
You might even be able to cut one of those orb sources >_>
neon junco
"Slept with Mystra" is also not that big an honor to be tbh
I meant so the archmahe tower with lots of powerful magic and stuff he made under tuteluge. The sleeping part is weird, considering he was raised by Mystra from early on and the power imbalance could not get further apart.
grave prism
You might even be able to cut one of those orb sources >_>
probably yeah
idk that they stack
neon junco
Iirc Gale was like 10 when he got Mystra's attention
grave prism
it does however mean that if i have those things together
no matter what range i'm at
so long as i do radiant damage, i'll do more damage
also the boots do reverberation if i inflict a condition on enemies
so that also procs
simple spire
But yeah, Gale is yet another companion indoctrinated by someone very powerful with dubious intentions
grave prism
i think coruscation ring or luminous armor would be the best choices for removal
grave prism
apparently it stacks
though i'm not particularly sure what that entails, that is the point of the build
OH
nevermind
i will NOT be removing anything
that is
kind of fucking good to have actually
jfc
idk if the max duration thing is right cause i've seen comments about it going higher
but even just a -10 to hit as a fucking AoE effect is crazy
i will simply never get hit
just apply -10 to attack rolls to anything that gets remotely close to me
neon junco
That's wild
grave prism
hell i can do the radiance of dawn thing now that i'm level 2 light cleric and just like, AoE a fuck ton of enemies at once with radiant
that's actually insane
-10 to attack rolls is DISGUSTING
neon junco
-10 with you'd never be hit in act 2 since it's a lot of small mob swarm encounters.
grave prism
we won't even need our giant barbarian to tank once my build is online
i'll just fucking turn off the enemies ability to attack
neon junco
Even act 3 and late game armor your AC might be high enough to not be hit often either
grave prism
while doing bonus damage
and applying reverberation to EVERYONE
cause this means that like
any and all radiant damage does both on hit procs for reverberation as well as AoE reverberation within 10 feet of me, as well as nerfing attack rolls
since basically all sources of radiant damage i do will cause radiating orb
my friend recced a vid on it and i thought the build looked good so i picked it
since we're doing Honor Mode we need every advantage
but this is kinda nuts
this strat must have been obscenely OP before being limited to 10 stacks
safe jungle
i really like how Minthara can ask you if you agree with this really awful evil thing
and if you say you do
she'll approve but also find ways to direct you to an alternate version of this really awful evil thing that's actually more productive
grave prism
i do like that
safe jungle
she's like "What do you think about the matri--I mean, patriars of the City denying refugees?"
you: "I think they should let them in. They'll make for nice emergency provisions."
"Mmm... weak and the elderly, maybe, but the rest should be put to work to earn their keep, I reckon."
"And eventually maybe they'll even be able to earn their freedoms back."
grave prism
she's evil, doesn't mean she has to be wasteful
safe jungle
she's lawful evil with emphasis on lawful
grave prism
yup
safe jungle
she's highly practical
neon junco
You kind of have to be in the underdark
grave prism
?
neon junco
Not to say the Drow were in the right and did start many fights, but they have many enemies, including each other
Underdark is a very deadly place with scarce availabile resources, not that there isn't a lot of resources but many are guarded by duregar, drow, illithid, or any number of evil beings. Myconoids are chill though, mostly
grave prism
myconids pass the vibe check
safe jungle
if myconids pass the vibe check why are they delicious when roasted
neon junco
It's written very much in the way of "everyone else is hostile and willing to do evil to thrive and if you don't then you'll die" but somehow myconoids vibe
Glut did not pass the vibe check though
You can eat him