#Baldur's Gate 3

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tacit sluice
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Astarion would totally lose all o his Pikmin out of apathy without realizing he had to make more and now needs to waste a day on that which could cost him the whole game.

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"What do you mean they don't come back on their own?!"

"Pikmin are dumb dude."

"GODS!"

severe robin
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I downloaded mods and now my game is broken because of the patch and I have no fucking clue how to fix it

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I know I overwrote some file with a mod one but I can't find it

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And nothing wants to tell me

gaunt jackal
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Validate your files, that should fix it

severe robin
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It didn't.

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The launcher is still yelling at me about a "data mismatch"

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It won't fucking tell me what the mismatch is though

severe robin
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I got it fixed!

clear kestrel
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If you're modding:
Always back up your game
Always disable updates

limber shore
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Drawd my party :3

austere hinge
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Hooray for gith

limber shore
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I love gith

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I love being a greatsword medium armor wizard

dusky bear
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wizardry

austere hinge
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I continue to try and date lae'zel

limber shore
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Good

austere hinge
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I encouraged her to stay behind and cuddle last time

neon junco
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Gith is so good for a gish

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Spellcasting with medium armor and cool gith gear

severe robin
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I got a set of like, +2 hide from the goblin

limber shore
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Githyanki get proficiency in light and medium armor, as well as shortswords, longswords, and greatsword :]

soft tundra
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yeah they get to be true war wizards

dusky bear
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my save broke cause vicksyAngy

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well

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mods

soft tundra
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such is mod life

neon junco
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Gith bladelock is also fun

safe jungle
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||this does explain what the Dead 3’s plan is, sorta. Turning people into illithid denies their souls to other gods. Ergo, this is a scorched earth operation writ large||

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Somehow actually more petty than Shar lmao

soft tundra
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Yeah, withers covers that issue in the epilogue, since the plan has One Huge Flaw

dusky bear
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maybe i should start an unmodded run

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githyanki sorcerer

austere hinge
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You could roll some random stuff, play an odd combo you've never even thought of

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(I advise not human though, I don't think humans get special racial interactions much)

dusky bear
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i was going to go gith

soft tundra
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you get some human interactions in the game, they mostly amount to "well not ALL humans" which can be fairly funny

austere hinge
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So I slept a few times

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to have stuff happen before I left act 1 (I think I'm leaving act 1)

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I feel like something happened that should have happened a lot earlier and basically Shadowheart and Lae'zel got into a big argument and tried to attack one another.

sly flare
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A workplace accident

austere hinge
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Thing is, I might be biased because I'm romancing Lae'zel, but when Shadowheart comes out of the night holding a knife to her Lae'zel's throat and talking about how "we can't trust her" I'm a little surprised when the dialogue seems to suggest Lae'zel is the unreasonable one.

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It just casually giving options to chastise Lae'zel who moments ago was pinned down with a knife held to her throat.

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While Shadowheart goes responds with "Don't poke at sore wounds" when I tell her I don't want any more trouble. Like the wound wasn't caused by her trying to stick a knife in someone while they slept.

sly flare
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Yeah Shadowhearts an asshole if you ask her anything about her

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until a point I didnt get to

austere hinge
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Thing is I've been very reasonable and understanding with her, and even though she doesn't travel with me she's pretty fine with how things are going. But bam, holding a knife to the throat of a party member as they sleep.

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I've been nice to everyone but Shart is causing problems in camp on purpose. Even Astarion doesn't do that.

sly flare
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I had Shart have an accident ||(I killed her)|| after she tried to knife Lae'zel

austere hinge
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I was tempted

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I managed to talk them down

sly flare
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Spoilers for Act 3: ||I fucked up some how and the only way for me to interact with this child is to kill them||

clear kestrel
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Oops

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What did you do?

sly flare
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||I think it's because in Act 2 I refused to show the artifact to the lady in the Town immune to darkness. Which made be count as aggrod to all the refugees forever. Because the game doesnt give you a "If you won't let me in, I'll just leave" option||

clear kestrel
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Ah that'll do it

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Tbf, they do have reason to attack you

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||they have proof you're an agent of the absolute basically||

sly flare
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||What proof? That I wanted to enter a place that is safe? Like the only reason I "attack", was to then run away and not kill anyone||

dusky bear
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Well

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I'll have to make a new character after all

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Let me play the game without any mods for now

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I wanna be a very powerful tho vicksyBork

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Teach me

sly flare
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Take a level of Paldin then go into Warlock, to my knowledge that's one of the most powerful easy builds in 5e

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Never tried it though

dusky bear
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Do we have hexblade here?

sly flare
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no hexblade but Swordlock gets CHA attacks

dusky bear
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Oh

dusky bear
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but i mean, since i can just respec my character anyway, i was wondering what would be the best class to go through the goblins and whatnot

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or "speedrun" the goblins rather

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there may not be a "best" one for the job but i do want to hear your suggestions

tacit sluice
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Who have you recruited thus far?

dusky bear
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vicksyThink nobody really...i'll be started a whole new playthrough

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This one will have 0 mods

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So i dont run into modder hell again .w.

simple spire
dusky bear
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vicksyGun here's the thing gk

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Since mods broken and i dont wanna wait for them to get fixed up

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I want to start a new playthrough

simple spire
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No I mean what kind of powerful

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There are a lot of powerful builds

dusky bear
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Killing lots of goblins really fast powerful

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Cause i dont wanna take too long on that section

simple spire
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Again, lots of things can do that. Do you want to be a caster? A melee?

dusky bear
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vicksyThink i like melee but i feel i should probably go caster

simple spire
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A bit of both?

dusky bear
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i want to be efficient for this section, i can just change classes after this, so i'll focus on one

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we go caster

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we'll take our gith buddy with us

simple spire
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Also, bear in mind that if you're trying to do Act 1 "optimally," there's stuff you may want to do before doing the goblin camp

dusky bear
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vicksyNoted like recruiting the tiefling friend and warlock friend?

simple spire
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Also the stuff with Kagha

dusky bear
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i dislike her vicksyGun

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but yeah last time i just convinced her to let the child go

frigid oxide
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There's a sneaky bonus thing you can do

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That was a hint

dusky bear
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shank? vicksyKnife

simple spire
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Spoilers: ||in the swamp you can find evidence that Kagha has been collaborating with shadow druids, which allows you to deal with her without starting a civil war in the grove||

dusky bear
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|| since i just got her boss back the other time there was no civil war vicksyThink ||

sly flare
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||I didnt find any shadow Druid thing, I just got Halsein back which stops a civil war||

dusky bear
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i just wanna be loaded when going there either way i believe

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and this time i should bring the ogers to the battle

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i'll recruit strong lady vicksyAww she kewl

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actually ya know what

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if everyone good at bonking

soft tundra
soft tundra
austere hinge
soft tundra
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Rogue vs Fighter mentality, not actual classes lmao my bad

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But yeah, Laezel and Shadowheart are very much so at each others throats in Act 1 for a variety of reasons, and as you've picked up on Laezel/gith are a very "kill first talk later" and Shadowheart has a lot of "justifiable self-defense first" stuff going on there

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its a good dynamic

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its even better after their showdown cuz now theres begrudging respect

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because they both looked at the party full of freaky heroes and went "YOU are my biggest threat" so its a funny complement

austere hinge
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I think the problem for me was that the showdown happened waaaaay later, like almost 40 hours in when I'm about to leave act 1

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So it felt like a murder attempt out of frickin nowhere

soft tundra
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yeah, its supposed to happen shortly after the artifact reveals itself and/or you do the gith encounter

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since thats the big "you STOLE our people's STUFF" moment

austere hinge
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That's the other thing of like... isn't Lae'zel right?

soft tundra
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Oh, for sure

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both of them are

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that's what makes it a good conflict

austere hinge
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Shadowheart over here acting like the british museum

soft tundra
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Laezel is right in pointing out that Shadow- i was gunna make that joke lmao
and Shadowheart is right in pointing out that, hey, this thing is currently keeping us safe/alive, and also (possible spoilers unless you know who she's worshipping) ||her mind is wiped so she doesnt actually know why they stole it!||

charred niche
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See my first run was with Shadowheart and Lae'zel and I found them both impossibly delightful, the knife stuff, the vitriol. That's banter!

austere hinge
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I'm currently dating Lae'zel and left Shadowheart behind. I mean I didn't kill her or nothing, I'm actually a bit more mad at the writers because I swear the aftermath has a mild telling off for Shadowheart and a full on "never do that again" attitude towards Lae'zel

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And yeah she opened up to me about her goddess and the whole situation well before she did this, which was one of situations of why it felt like it triggered a bit out of order

soft tundra
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sorry the events played out that way for you

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Too bad about her, Shadowheart has a lot of juicy Act 2+3 stuff going on

austere hinge
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I'm just throwing bricks at their windows for being mean to my darling Lae'zel

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Oh she's still in camp I just don't have her in the party

sly flare
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Lae'zel is just a little guy

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how are you going to be mean to her

austere hinge
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Really really really really really really easily with how frustrating she can be

soft tundra
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she's an alien fascist soldier, its pretty easy early on

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you gotta help her see how cool she can be when shes a free thinker

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but also i super appreciate her being mean since from her point of view, we're all wasting time not-fixing-the-tadpoles, and i'd be very upset about that too

austere hinge
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I mean I more often than not purposefully say shit to piss Lae'zel off which is hilarious to me, specially cause we're dating. In act 1 of course. Halfling bard is the height of fucking around and she hates fucking around.

soft tundra
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aggravate the frog

austere hinge
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Wyll fuckin loooooves me and I ain't even dating him.

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Like his bar is way to the right for approval

soft tundra
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Wyll loves a good hero!

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in general just doing nice things will get you a lot of Wyll, Gale and Karlach approval

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and eventually gets you a lot of Laezel, Shadowheart, and even Astarion approval as you show them the goodness of your heart

austere hinge
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Pabby is a terrible hero he looks like an eldritch being tried to make a meat puppet so they can explore our reality

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I've mostly gained Astarion approval by being a conniving bitch and accidentally negging him because I don't want to date him and when he flirts I tell him to settle down.

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Which I get story wise why he likes but it's like I'm trying to get a chew toy away from a dog while they want to play

tacit sluice
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And the dog is a vampire

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...Okay but vampire good boy sounds funny

austere hinge
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Yee

dawn terrace
sly flare
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Fucking Lit

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Constant W's from Larian

grave prism
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as if they couldn't be more based

severe robin
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Wooooooo!!!!

dawn terrace
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I am praying Sony is more lenient than then they where with Bethesda. I really want those race, subclasses, and increase party size mods.

winged vapor
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I’d love more classes

tacit sluice
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It feels so good having the whole squad rock up on an encounter

tired nova
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fuckign hell act 3 has several sub plots that feel like theyd just be 90% of any other campaign

grave prism
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yup

storm sinew
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Act 3 simultaneously has so much but not enough in the ones you WANT

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no real Karlach content past Act 2 is CRIMINAL

neon junco
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There's a small amount of Karlach content in 3 with ||her smithy friend|| but it's real criminally small

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I'm guessing it's cause karlach was a last minute addition to the game

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I can't recall anything for Minthara in act 3 either

soft tundra
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Minthara and Halsin were the last ones, ignoring the Wyll rewrites

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Karlach also gets ||Gortash stuff|| so i wouldnt say no content

neon junco
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Oh right

clear kestrel
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Karlash has a good amount i think

soft tundra
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Wyll is the quest sufferer supreme

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man isnt allowed to make his own decisions or be angry

clear kestrel
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||she bumps into her friend, her parents grave, your date, anything with Gortash, going to hell again for the heist||

austere hinge
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I think karlach got rewritten pretty hard

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I heard her voice actor was the last one to get hired.

tired nova
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ending spoiler: || you know i thought id feel somewhat bad about freeing orpheus, but no, the emperors response to me doing that was to go help the netherbrain without a second thought, he fucking deserves to be betrayed||

grave prism
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||basically uhhh, fuck the emperor||

safe jungle
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Don’t fuck him

severe robin
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I did it and then sold his ass out

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[Big final fight spoilers] ||Going full worm made me weaker lmao||

tacit sluice
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So you're telling me ||I made a horrible mistake going partial illithid||

tired nova
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ok, karlach ending ||im happy she lives, and that wyll is with her in avernus looking after her so zariel doesnt get to her, its not the ideal ending, but it beats her dying, and it beats her serving zariel way more||

soft tundra
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yeah i like that she basically ||goes on Campaign 2: I'm Recreating Doom 64||

tired nova
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||im just glad shes not in avernus alone 😭 ||

dawn terrace
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||Baldur's Gate 3: Decent Into Averus 2: Electric Boogaloo||

frigid oxide
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Is there a version of that where ||I go with them||

tired nova
frigid oxide
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Ah yes my fate is sealed then

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... Man imagine that as the new baldurs gate dark alliance spinoff

tired nova
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now to do it again

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in honor

soft tundra
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godspeed

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honor is rough

severe robin
tired nova
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act 1/start of act 2 will be rough
but honestly the game showers you in so many godly items afterwards that its not really an issue

severe robin
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So it just like, removed all my attack abilities and magic items

soft tundra
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this might seem obvious but a good basic strat is to recruit as many people as possible early and do a lot of the no-combat EXP asap

severe robin
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I was still strong, just not "Kill 4 enemies each turn" strong

soft tundra
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i also have a lot of success playing a half-orc for the not-die

tired nova
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honestly if i get to level 4 i should already be golden

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cause tavern brawler monk

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and alert assassin

soft tundra
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thats a pretty good one to do it with

tired nova
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i had so many extra resources in tactician that i just didnt need to use

soft tundra
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the main difference in honor is just the Legendary Actions, hence the early exp farming

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those early legendary actions HURT

tired nova
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oh 100%

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just need to be ahead of the curve early

soft tundra
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my other "cheat" for honor is that if youre super scared of an encounter, you can just enter it with 3 people so that if they die the 4th can just go to camp and fix the problem later

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or you can send 1 person to, say, kill the minions, they die, then you go in to take care of the boss now that you've fixed the initiative order in your favor

severe robin
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That's why I'm playing a ranged Sneak Attack Rogue

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Speaking of, I found a thing that I really want to ask people about,

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So, Ranged Sneak Attack

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I'm using the Bracers of Archery, cause +2 damage is nice, and becausde I like having Longbows, Sharpshooter too

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And I'm using the Titanstring Bow, even though I have 8 Strength, because I can bring it up to 19 with the Club of Giant Strength

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Is that like, good?

soft tundra
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thats a good way to add damage, yeah!

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flat damage is always nice since you dont need to rely on the dice roll

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automatic +6 damage from that is helpful

severe robin
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Going Assassin, planning to go down Gloomstalker

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I'm wondering like, should I be using dual Hand Crossbows instead?

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I kind of don't particularly want to

soft tundra
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dual hand crossbows gives you an extra attack, but i like being able to use my extra bonus action to hide or dash away

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esp in honor since enemies are mean

tacit sluice
tacit sluice
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Holy shit an NPC I just finished talking to walked into a still ongoing spell and died
WHAT THE FUCK

severe robin
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Yeah they do that

tacit sluice
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This is why damage spells should end after combat

severe robin
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This is why allied npcs either shouldn't exist, or get ai that makes them not kill themselves in ongoing spells

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Enemies have no problem avoiding those, why do allies?

tacit sluice
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Oh no he wasn't an allied NPC

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Just a guy I intimidated out of a house

bitter moon
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had to pay Rolan to talk to me after he walked into the incredibly obvious sword tornado smh

bitter moon
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like, maybe because I'm playing on low difficulty but the pathfinding doesn't seem to detect persistent AoE effects at all

grave prism
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I think it's just like that

austere hinge
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Yeah it just happens

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Even PC characters just love the taste of fire

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Also I managed to ||kill the adamantine golem without using the massive hammer|| for the achievement

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Woo

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It involved a lot of distracting strike attempts them switching to a raging Karlach to land some big hits

white sleet
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I never realized that was an option on my clear of that fight lmao

austere hinge
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To do it the rough way?

soft tundra
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i think its funnier when people dont realize thats the Hard Way

white sleet
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To ||Mc hammer|| it

soft tundra
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ive met too many people who didnt realize the giant fuckin hammer existed

austere hinge
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Ahhh

safe jungle
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On my second run

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I just threw hammers at it until it died

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Like actual hammers

soft tundra
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like cmooooon its a room with a giant hammer with lava the characters constantly comment on

white sleet
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My team was karlach, laezel, shadowheart, and tav

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I think brute forcing it was in character lmao

austere hinge
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To be fair if gale isn't in the party and you're not a wizard there are very few braincells in the party

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As a bard I get +1 to intelligence rolls and that makes me a god damn miracle, plus JOAT and my skill buffing rings I almost have a brain

tacit sluice
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Wait, there was a giant hammer?

soft tundra
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did you not get your adamantine armor 😭

tacit sluice
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Wait, you mean that giant piston that slams down?

soft tundra
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yeah

white sleet
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Yep

soft tundra
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it does like 150 damage to him

simple spire
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Yeah you can use the forge hammer to hit him

tacit sluice
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Yeesh, and all I did was have a mod that removed the party limit cause I didn't want to leave anyone out

white sleet
simple spire
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But just bonking him works fine too

white sleet
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Which is a fucking stupid item

soft tundra
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The real trick with int is to kill the ogres, get the intelligence headband, and just wear that with 8 intelligence to free up a stat

grave prism
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Oh boy

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Risky ring huh

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That's going to be very fucking good for my modded monk based on how some item interaction end up working out

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There is a modded item i am gonna grab that allows me to do 3 unarmed attack per unarmed attack i do

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And with my two bonus actions and extra attack that potentially totals 12 unarmed strikes per turn

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Advantage on top of that would be insane

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Literally never miss again

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Plus i'm also using tavern brawler

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My plan is to become a menace

austere hinge
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Also god damn gamers don't look up

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There should have been an achievement for USING the hammer on the golem

soft tundra
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no way its the hard mode not to haha

white sleet
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Tbf looking up is real hard in bg3

winged vapor
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So I just tried a beast master ranger and I gotta say

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Not bad

soft tundra
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you get a furry friend :D

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for me its not about looking up its like... left alt is a godsend and also character comments give you so much

winged vapor
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But also famously bad but after testing really not so bad

soft tundra
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bg3 has no real bad options

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its nice

austere hinge
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yee

soft tundra
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i mean you can certainly make someone bad but you'd have to ignore every red flag and recommendation to do so

austere hinge
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but yeah the whole thing is taht you're meant to hit the person once then get out of there so the golem chases you, which is why they gave it that aggro mechanic. Then you drop the hammer.

soft tundra
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And the mephits give you a headache while you try

austere hinge
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You get a couple of turns of trying to do it but yeah, adds challenge. And there's fewer mephits than the area with the second ore

soft tundra
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its worth it for two adamantine items

austere hinge
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yee

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I went with the heavy armour and a longsword, though from what I can see the longsword is like... alright

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situationally alright

soft tundra
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Its great for when you get it

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I like two armor sets or armor+shield personally

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Spoilers for Act 2 beginning: || its very funny that you can start act 2 with 3 sets of magic heavy armor if you have spare infernal iron ||

austere hinge
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I feel like I've got some stronger two handed weapons

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But I didn't see any options for two handed weapons

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And the only person I have who uses one handed weapons is Wyll and he has a warlock specific sword that banes people and is kinda just a bit better

tacit sluice
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Who'd you give the long sword to?

soft tundra
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Im a sword n shield true believer so im a longsword lover

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Gimme that big AC

austere hinge
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Right now it's a side option for Karlach if I want to up their AC, might give to Wyll if I need to overcome resistances. It's good against objects but I'm not sure there's any real "objects" that matter for that off the top of my head. Unless constructs count

soft tundra
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theres a few annoying walls later on but Eldritch Blast also deals with them handily in my experience

soft tundra
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where theres a Wyll theres a way!

white sleet
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Oh God dammit I should have seen that coming

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My solution for walls was always just "karlach, grab your hammer"

austere hinge
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Both work honestly

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But that's the thing of like... Wow such a bonus, a stationary target takes a critical hit...

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This other sword banes the enemy

grave prism
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time for some funny modding troubleshooting 💀

sly flare
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Eldritch Blast is actually the cantrip of the construction industry rather than a spell of war

soft tundra
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i do hope people stop sending Larian threats over mods

grave prism
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what

soft tundra
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We’ll be talking in depth about what our mod support will look like soon. Been working on it since launch. As always, we’ll discuss it in our way with our community. Threats & toxicity against our devs & community teams will only harm the conversation. Please stop that.

grave prism
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absolute insanity to threaten people over community made content

austere hinge
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People will threaten over anything unfortunately

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specially with twitter lately

safe jungle
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Very few things in the universe has force resistance

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So my durge warlock’s eldritch blast carried me most of the game

grave prism
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eldritch blast good

safe jungle
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Blasts door

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Blasts boxes

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Blasts imp

tired nova
austere hinge
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The Flying Hoo

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I really should enlarge Karlach more

austere hinge
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Ah it isn't something you can get with bard or magic secrets

tired nova
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im somewhat surprised its this low, but not really

charred niche
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Folks hate throwing gold, plus only bards get instrument proficiency unless you take a Feat

soft tundra
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you can also earn it for free, once!

charred niche
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:0 Didn't know

soft tundra
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yep! If you pass the checks while playing with Alfira, you get proficiency

austere hinge
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Right in the tiefling village

soft tundra
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yeah, the grove!

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They wish it was a tiefling village

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that'd make the situation there a lot easier to deal with

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But alas, they have no homes.

charred niche
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Elturel is back but no one wants to rebuild Helltown

tired nova
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play a song and people gather around
succeed the performance check
if you play a second song after that
most of the gathered people will toss 1 gold at you each

soft tundra
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Elturel unfortunately did a racism and kicked out all the tiefs

charred niche
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Dammit Elturel it's all the fault of the city councilman don't you understand, I did a whole 5e module about it

austere hinge
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Yee

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Also if you want to do some real silliness you can perform a song around non hostiles you're planning on attacking (deugar) and then enter turn based mode, run out of the circle and throw a bomb or cast a giant aoe spell which catches them all

limber shore
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just started a solo honor mode run and died on the mind flayer ship.

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||I accidentally aggro'd Us and it attacked and killed me and Laezel||

soft tundra
#

sadcowboy rest in peace

austere hinge
#

At least it happened quick

#

in god's honest truth it feels like a bad idea to have AOE, specially lasting AOE in honour mode

#

just a good way of wrecking shit

charred niche
#

Spike Growth is brutal in a lot of fights

austere hinge
#

I love being able to pick up some nasty shit from bard "magical secrets"

#

Taking Spirit Weapon because now you've got a nice little distraction that just makes an extra thwak attack each turn it's alive

charred niche
#

I will say BG3 really makes me feel the limit of the Spirit Weapon Movespeed

#

in the tabletop variety a lot of the times it just sort of works itself out

soft tundra
tacit sluice
#

When I run I usually try to put the players and their foes within a standard movement of each other so they can all get to swinging without further delay, so if everyone does it like I do that could be a factor

soft tundra
#

Yeah, I tend to run bigger / sitrep-y maps with other stuff to do, but also making sure both sides' magic users and archers can make good use of cover and terrain and such

#

tis a pain sometimes but its fun

frigid oxide
#

5e is weird like that. Dungeon prep can really turn the tide of how party balance works

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I've learned to work with fps map design in my head, which helps because it creates a lot of open areas and cover positions but also adding clutter cover really helps for close range players to gap close and cover choke points.

tacit sluice
#

Yeah I've been needing to consider cover for one of the games I'm running, though that's ina system where everyone has a gun so it's a bit different

soft tundra
#

Cover and weird terrain makes every martial better

frigid oxide
#

BG3 reminding people the environment can be fun

charred niche
#

BG3 also like 'You're never going to guess how the enemy is going to shove Gale off a cliff this time'

#

They always know the hidden geometries

severe robin
#

BG3 I think might ruin 5e combat for me forever

soft tundra
#

just gotta add that bg3 spice to whatever 5e combats you run!

neon junco
#

BG3 probably will ruin 5e based crpgs for me

#

It does combat well while maintaining most of the 5e combat rules somehow

zealous shale
#

I think it's the large amount and variety of magic items is what makes bg3 work so well compared to normal 5e

soft tundra
#

The itemization, the terrain variety, the enemy variety (this is a huge one i see a lot of DMs fall into w/out thinking)

#

the variations in what to do, while not plentiful enough in bg3 imo, is a good step in getting people to think

#

what IF i only have 3 rounds to get into a portal? What if?

#

Does that meaningfully change combat?

simple spire
#

The itemization is definitely part of it

#

5e very consciously clamped down on the Christmas tree effect

#

But like

#

The Christmas tree is fun to decorate

sly flare
#

bg3 is just a like master class in making itself work

#

like the way items are, I don't think really works that well in normal ttrpg

But in CRGP is amazing

#

As like having builds which can be seperated from class translates much better with how crpg's are than how D&D style ttrpgs generally are

safe jungle
#

Me punishing enemies who made the mistake of taking the high ground by having karlach jump up there and toss them off it

austere hinge
#

Gith jump magic is fricking amazing

soft tundra
#

ty bg3 for making the Athlete feat very cool

safe jungle
#

Lmao

#

Love how indignant he sounds

austere hinge
merry wharf
#

It's time

austere hinge
#

Just to check, is going to the Rosymorn temple and the cresh under it act 1 or 2?

#

Just cause I know we try to spoiler act 2 and beyond stuff

white sleet
#

I most often see it called 1.5

#

Which is unhelpful

austere hinge
#

Woo

#

anyway, I feel guilty about wrecking the kobold party

#

I actually kept them all to non-lethal attacks
(One died because I broke a support and it fell and did the one damage)

white sleet
#

Oh same, I tried to avoid killing them too. And then there was an errant firebomb or something thrown...

austere hinge
#

Ah the inventor kobold has three alchemist bombs

#

I just rushed a couple of them and knocked them the fuck out

simple spire
#

It’s act 1

#

Although I believe going to it will progress the druid plotline if it’s unfinished

austere hinge
#

It's also weird that if I'm sneaking in there I can whack a guy while they're asleep and in another room and the entire party knows what's going on even if I knock them out in one hit

#

I... look Halsin came into the party so late I've not really had him around

#

I'm going with the ones I'm always wandering around with

simple spire
#

By the druid plotline I mean the grove stuff

austere hinge
#

Oh right

#

Well that's kinda Halsin

#

I just put Lae'zel in the machine (or rather let her when she insisted) and oh boy

#

It didn't go well

#

Good news, I passed a DC 30 persuasion check. I do wonder what it changed...

simple spire
#

Do you want the answer to that?

austere hinge
#

Well it looked like she was about to explode if she didn't get out of the machine

#

Put it in spoilers what would happen if I didn't get her out of the machine? Then I can decide whether I want to look or not

#

I am worried I fucked up her quest a bit by passing the insane check

simple spire
#

You did not. ||She gets hit with some semi-permanent debuffs if she stays in the machine.||

austere hinge
#

Jeebus. So I luckily dodged the debuffs by being incredibly good at persuading?

#

The power of BARD

sly flare
#

The power of CHARISMA BASED CASTER

#

unless Bard gets like Expert Persuasion

austere hinge
#

It does and I did

sly flare
#

A power not even the greatest of Devils can grant

austere hinge
#

Charisma based caster, Expert in Persuasion and Guidance, and even then I had to reroll with an inspiration

#

Get my waifu OUTTA THAT MACHINE

#

Last thing she did was get real mad at me because I shared some sweet sweet heresy with a dumb kid

stray basalt
#

holy shit just rolled a double nat 20 on an otherwise impossible check

#

DC25 and my bonus was 1-4

austere hinge
#

hell yeah

stray basalt
#

Spoilers for A3: ||Our rogue managed to get us into A Fight. Things were looking tough and I mentioned off-hand that it would be a great time to have that big explosive from the Underdark in A1

Cue one of the party remembering that they were in fact carrying said barrel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC4X0AQzKeo ||

"Oh it's a shame we don't have that big explodey barrel; y'know, from Act 1?"

▶ Play video
stray basalt
dawn valley
#

hey what class and race combo should i play for my dark urge redemption playthrough ? i was thinking of tirfling paladin

winged vapor
#

Barb is a good one

#

Old one warlock

dawn valley
#

hum i always wanted to make a multi-classed warlock

#

maybe for a verry evil urge run imma make a barbarian and capitilized on the slayer form

austere hinge
#

Halfling rogue

dawn valley
#

i'm already small irl i will not play a small character in my make believe videogame

austere hinge
#

live your dreams, be a small murderer

#

Halfling Barbarian

#

I'm playing a halfling bard

#

Not dark urge just halfling bard normally

dawn valley
#

here's my plan for dark urge : A nnormal good guy redemption run. An evil run (probably a barbarian) with a lot of murder ♥

#

the problem is that my current tav druid run kinda becam boring after entering act 3

austere hinge
#

Unfortunate

dawn valley
#

i dunno if it's my class or the choice i made so i kinda want to start from scratch

austere hinge
#

Bard has a TON of skill abilities and persuasion stuff

#

If you were a Gith bard you could be amazingly proficient in a ton of stuff

#

Which means letting you do more random shit

winged vapor
#

Light cleric is a fun one

dawn valley
#

ah yes laser choir boy

#

it does seem nice but i'm partial to tempest cleric

winged vapor
#

There is a dope helm in act 1 that combos well

austere hinge
#

Which one is that? The one that smites people when they miss you?

neon junco
#

Gith is my favorite for slapping medium armor on any class

#

Considering some of the best armor is medium

austere hinge
#

Basically allows the best bits of Sword Bard while letting you play Lore Bard

winged vapor
#

Yeah the helm because it’s combos with radiate orb well

limber shore
deft crypt
#

so true

white sleet
#

vlaakith has decreed that we all must live in a society

limber shore
#

githjonki

#

this is my durge playthrough's dream visitor so right now the headcanon is that he represents the dark urge's murderous tendencies

dawn valley
#

||i will have gay sex with astarion and with the calamari||

austere hinge
#

Call yourself "Bats" and be a ranger for this build

#

I'd say Batman is a city specialized ranger

tacit sluice
#

Given how often he uses unarmed attacks he's a Monk

austere hinge
#

Mmm fair I can see the argument for it

simple spire
#

Batman is a monk/rogue multiclass

austere hinge
#

Isn't that just shadow monk?

simple spire
#

Rogue gets skills and bonus actions

tacit sluice
#

Batman's got PF2e Monk and Rogue going on but one's an archetype

simple spire
#

Batman’s absolutely a Wolf Stance thief rogue

tacit sluice
#

Different than my own BatDrow who's a Thaumaturge with the secret identity archetype

#

But this is way off track for this channel now that I look at it

white sleet
#

Batman is a pf vigilante

#

I should get back to my durge run sometime

tacit sluice
#

Vigilante can get class archetype stuff so it'd fit

sly flare
#

Batmans his own class in pf1e

severe robin
#

Damn Honour mode got hands

#

That's twice now we narrowly avoided a wipe through the tried-and-true method of "The Rogue drinks an invisibility potion and books it"

clear kestrel
#

Prebuff, prepare, preattack

sonic pollen
#

started my first Tactician playthrough as a durge monk. goblins have been kicking my ass

severe robin
#

My ass should not be playing cleric lmao

clear kestrel
#

Ah well at least you get Alfia as a camp companion to help buff you

severe robin
#

I ain't got no clue how to play as one

austere hinge
#

Spirit Weapon spell is amazing

#

Guardians spell is amazing

#

these will destroy most encounters

soft tundra
#

buff, buff, buff

#

Spirit Guardians + some insane Channel Divinities will clear the game

austere hinge
#

Unless you're conquest you're not front lines you're sidelines

soft tundra
#

Light and Life cleric are busted

austere hinge
#

Even then you can do some nasty chunks

soft tundra
#

life gets so much value with all the new healing magic items, and Light has a very generous AoE + a great use of your reaction

austere hinge
#

Also if you're light or life then the ||blood of lathander|| weapon that you can get from the creche is a decent act 1 and a bit weapon you can use to krump enemies if they get close while still being primary spellcasting

severe robin
#

Ok time to respec Shart into Light Cleric

clear kestrel
#

Trickster is probably the worst one sadly

gaunt jackal
#

Quite easily yeah

severe robin
#

Githyanki creche clear

austere hinge
#

Oh did you get the mace?

severe robin
#

Hell yeah

#

Put it on Shart

#

Stomped the Death Shepard fight with her

#

Y'know I could probably ask for advice here

austere hinge
#

It took me a moment to remember I had it in that fight

severe robin
#

So, I know that Spirit Guardians is cool, but what do I do with my 1st/2nd Spell Slots?

austere hinge
#

Healing always good

#

Guiding bolt too

#

that's great, giving advantage on attacks

severe robin
#

Spiritual Weapon?

soft tundra
#

shield of faith, sanctuary, guiding bolt, enhance ability, create water, spiritual weapon

#

aid

severe robin
#

Sanctuary's good

#

Saved us from a wipe once, I always keep a spell slot spare for it now

soft tundra
#

Protection from Evil and Good in certain parts

#

Silence for killing folk w/out alarms

#

the cleric spell list is the best in the game imo its nutso

severe robin
#

📝

storm sinew
#

the true secret of Astarion's back revealed

wise mango
# severe robin Damn Honour mode got hands

A strat I used was going into turn based mode before any action that I thought would involve combat and stacking all my buffs up and then ending the turn so I'd go into battle with buffs at max length without having to give up a combat round to buff up

sonic pollen
#

damn, people weren't lying when they said monk was really good

#

i'm level 6 with punches doing 1d6+3d4+5 per hit

sly flare
#

Do you have tavern brawler yet? If so shouldnt that +5 be like +10?

sonic pollen
#

i haven't taken TB

#

stunning strike and open hand flurry of blows is putting in work

#

and one of the d4s is from colossus elixir

winged vapor
#

You can get the elixir to set your str to 20

#

So you keep your dex high for int and ac but str for strength

gloomy cloud
#

I've been continuing my save

#

and I just had a bug???? that I thought was incredibly funny

#

Karlach, he actually did the exact opposite

#

I don't know if you were listening

clear kestrel
#

The dialogue surrounding that choice does seem a bit buggy

bitter moon
#

Wyll's questline in act 3 just seems a bit buggy in general

#

||broke his contract, rescued Ravengard, he and Wyll reconciled, then got a dialogue from Wyll about his dad being dead (he's right there you doofus), did Wyrmway, got the dialogue about the Blade of Avernus decision which seemed a bit off, then went to camp, got the same dialogue again but now it flowed better because Ravengard was there||

#

||I think the triggers around like... breaking the contract, but then rescuing Ravengard anyway are just a bit broken, even though it's not that hard to bust him out even with Mizora in the way ||

clear kestrel
#

I think it's cos theres several distinct triggers for it that get confused somewhere in the back end

#

||gortash ceremony, the iron throne, gortash death, speaking to Mizora in the camp to change the deal||

#

Somewhere event trigger A has been set to event trigger A-1 by mistake

bitter moon
#

yeah

#

kinda a lot of moving parts in that part of the quest

gloomy cloud
#

my jaw just dropped to the floor

#

Wyll just got sneak attack crit'd for 126 damage

clear kestrel
#

Bye Wyll

gloomy cloud
#

Very tempted to make him a fighter

#

this is why I play bard

austere hinge
#

Hell yeah

#

Bard hours

#

Sometimes I don't even cast friends because it feels rude to enchant some people

sonic pollen
#

doing the harper ambush. successfully kill the drider with a combo of stuns and AOE spells, including a wall of fire

immediately after the fight, a harper walks into the wall of fire

gloomy cloud
#

And my friend was watching me roll it and he went "Atwcat thats awful" and it took me a minute 😭

sly flare
#

I've not cast friends once

#

even on evil people

austere hinge
#

I cast it on Lae'zel to help convince her to get out of the brain blender

#

because I don't care if she's grompy afterwards her brain was getting scrambled

#

And it was like a DC30 to make her leave it

severe robin
#

Holy shit sweating

#

Honour mode run, got to the Last Light

#

Started the fight

#

Turn one, [Act 2 Spoilers] ||three winged horrors walk up to Isobel, fail their saves against Lathander's light becoming blind, crit Isobel leaving her at 3 hit points on turn one||

severe robin
#

We did successfully save her tho

#

Sharpshooter Ranger kinda busted tbh

#

I have a minimum damage of like, 28

winged vapor
#

Anyone know what quests advance when you head to the mountain pass? Not passing into the next act just the ||monastery||

tacit sluice
#

The Grove stuff either fails or enters a timer

austere hinge
#

I think a bunch of stuff in the Underdark gets advanced

#

But I'm not sure

winged vapor
#

I thought that was untouched ? Seems like grove and karlach from what I can tell

austere hinge
#

I will bow to your knowledge, I thought the gnome would die at least

winged vapor
#

Oh maybe

#

Hope not lol

austere hinge
#

She's a nice gnome

winged vapor
#

Yup lol

soft tundra
#

so the bigs one are

  • The Grove quest will fail/advance to its endstate (depends on if you killed goblin leaders)
  • Waukeen's Rest will fail
  • lots of sidequests in act 1 end due to the npcs being unavailable
merry wharf
#

Playing a resistant/good dark urge with terrible charisma has been a great experience

#

You gotta talk to people with either blunt honesty or the slight bump to intimidation you get

soft tundra
#

I love that good durge intimidation is largely just. Standing There. Menacingly. But likely internally just struggling to remember words due to your brain problems.

winged vapor
#

I’m literally doing this run

#

As a light cleric

austere hinge
#

I am continuing on my adventures

#

and uh

#

carry capacity

#

Here we see Karlach preparing the carry the sun itself

#

I also have an important question: how good is this ring?

simple spire
#

Heat in general is okay, but it’s no lightning charges

winged vapor
#

Heat is cool if you use aoe fire

#

Because it adds it to the whole thing

#

So you can add up to 7 flat fire damage to a fireball

sonic pollen
#

yeah it's something to build around

austere hinge
#

Perhaps so. Right now I just have the insane carry weight of Karlach

#

Now to fill out that weight limit on Karlach and turn her into a giant and jump on someone to crush them

sonic pollen
#

it should just be size

austere hinge
#

Well I could still just get a massive bag full of weight and huck it at someone as hard as I can for damage

sonic pollen
#

yeah you can do that

safe jungle
#

massive bag full of grease bottles

#

and alchemist fire

#

and hand bombs

#

and runpowder barrel

austere hinge
#

"to whom it is concerned" written on the side

#

I think being a giant means you can throw heavier things too. I wonder with a carrying capacity like that and a giant potion what I could throw around

sonic pollen
#

why bother throwing spears or bombs when you can pick up and throw your enemies

austere hinge
#

or your allies!

sonic pollen
#

I wonder how Feather Fall interacts with throwing allies at people

#

could you kill Grym by throwing someone at him?

austere hinge
#

It says that it technically makes you immune to fall damage

#

so... you should just do damage to the person you land on

sonic pollen
#

i will try and remember to test on my next playthrough

austere hinge
#

I can try to test it myself sometime, how do you do damage usually anyway? Just jump on someone from above?

sonic pollen
#

normal jumping doesn't deal damage

soft tundra
#

gravity hurts

sonic pollen
#

that still works as far as i know

#

using the Crushing Flight ability from the owlbear wildshape

austere hinge
#

How do you jump to do damage?

#

Or is that just part of crushing flight?

severe robin
#

Part of Crushing Flight

sonic pollen
#

yeah

severe robin
#

Theoretically, you can do damage to someone by jumping and landing on them,

#

But you need to jump into an empty space, then have them move into that space before you land

limber shore
#

cw profanity | i found this really cool astarion amv i wanted to share with you all :o)

rich plover
#

lmao. instead of the second dream visitor scene, one of the people in my multiplayer group somehow got the dark urge Sceleritas scene. he's...he's not a dark urge character. Sceleritas butt dialed him, I guess?

soft tundra
#

"Youre not my Durge but eh, good enough. Go murder."

austere hinge
#

When you murder hobo so hard you get a complimentary durge dream

rich plover
#

one of the duergar hurled Scratch into lava. that's so cartoonishly evil, holy shit 😂

austere hinge
#

ooooff

broken pumice
#

"fuck this cat in particular"

austere hinge
#

dog but yes

severe robin
#

I have a question about [End of Act Two spoilers] ||Convincing Shadowheart to not kill Aylin.|| Is it a romance specific thing, or is it just a "Get high enough affinity" thing; If the latter, around what affinity do I need?

winged vapor
#

It’s just a check I believe

simple spire
#

You may not even need to ||convince her, you can trust her to make the right choice||

severe robin
#

The check is... I have +0 Charisma and no proficiency

severe robin
#

We're also on Honour Mode, and I really don't want to fuck this up

simple spire
#

I don’t know if romance is required, but you certainly need high approval

#

The wiki might be able to tell you more

severe robin
#

Ty

severe robin
#

Okay, less serious question

#

Why are the Justicar corpses so fucking big?

#

They block line of sight???

simple spire
#

They drank milk to grow tall and get strong bones

neon junco
winged vapor
#

I gotta say radiant orb light cleric is so nasty

bitter moon
#

Radiant Orb is very funny

winged vapor
#

The lance helm combo is something else

austere hinge
#

Okay so I'm in act 2

#

||I met a horrible monstrosity in a bar and had a drink with it, and it exploded.||

#

I almost felt bad for them but then I took their key and found the stuff in their back rooms and yeah.

#

Not sure they deserved that fate but they were not good people

storm sinew
#

the ||Thorms|| are a sad bunch

austere hinge
#

Yeah but I found the barrel

neon junco
#

Yea I like how act 2 mostly all the bosses you can avoid direct combat with skill checks and usually some prior knowledge

#

Unless you're just real lucky

#

The book lore nerd in me is vindicated

austere hinge
#

There's one dude and a horde of ||winged horrors|| that came at me by surprise

#

but I beat the ever loving shit out of them

white sleet
#

Yeah he does that

austere hinge
#

just to check, does anything time out down here in act 2? I don't want to fall asleep and wind up with ||Mol getting fucked over or the tieflings being killed or anything like that||

tacit sluice
#

You will get a prompt for the point of no return

austere hinge
#

I also ||met a weird not-ghost of a kid in a shack|| I have no idea what that is

sonic pollen
austere hinge
#

Yes but he ||fucked off when I found the guy who was mumbling about a dude and now I need to go to the healer place? And he doesn't have an option to rejoin me||

sonic pollen
#

||yeah you should go to the healing place||

#

||it'll help you figure things out||

austere hinge
#

I thought I'd get a hint from the fact they were going ||Oh he has lute calluses on his hands. So I was like "Oh I'll play a lute near him or try and give him a lute and the game was like "ahahaha no"||

tacit sluice
#

||You're close, but there's a missing piece to this puzzle||

austere hinge
#

Something from the place I need to go no doubt

sonic pollen
#

correct

austere hinge
#

||Also for all the Halsin "wow he's a party member" thing he really didn't have much to say for several story beats in act 1 then literally LEFT my camp in act 2. Like... dood||

tacit sluice
#

||He's not fully recruited yet||

austere hinge
#

If I can bear fuck him he's fully recruited

sonic pollen
#

||he becomes fully recruitable after you fully complete this questline||

tacit sluice
#

||You're close too, find the missing piece and all else should fall into place||

sonic pollen
#

this questline also has some fun combat sequences

austere hinge
#

Looking forward to it

#

so far I'm mucking around

#

I do actually wonder if I'm going to be able to apply my medical knowledge to the ||house of healing||. Since I for some reason chose to have expertise in medicine as a bard

sonic pollen
analog radish
#

RIP

sonic pollen
#

I underestimated ||the fight with W'Wargaz||

#

||managed to kill him but got fucked by the remaining githyanki||

#

time to try again!

analog radish
#

I'm presently debating whether to continue with my honour mode playthrough after ||completely fucking up at the Last Light Inn, getting every one of the NPCs killed, and screwing myself out of fixing Karlach's infernal engine||

Still winnable, but god damn it hurts.

sonic pollen
#

that's rough

#

Githyanki Draconic Sorcerer time

golden grotto
#

||I find the trick is to not worry about the gargoyles but focus the guy who tries to go for Isobel||

#

||because if you kill him, isobel is fine||

austere hinge
#

||Just did that part and I am so glad I wandered around and got a load of armour before I went near Isobel, even then she got really hurt. Let me tell you I was happy to have battlemaster Lae'zel with Goading attack to take the heat off||

golden grotto
#

||battlemaster lae'zel with adamantine plate my beloved||

#

||especially if you then spec her into glaives||

austere hinge
#

that's my girl

#

She's currently using an icy quarter staff that doesn't do the biggest damage but still procs polearm master stuff

golden grotto
#

wait no i gave her a halberd

#

the halberd of vengeance iirc

austere hinge
#

I think it's the quarter staff that you can get by assembling the icy metal components from those doods in the underdark

golden grotto
#

mourningfrost?

austere hinge
#

Yeah that's it

#

It procs the polearm stuff so you can beat people down but I don't think you have the extra reach

golden grotto
#

rad

austere hinge
#

||the dude arrived into the middle of lae'zel about to smash him into the floor with a frost quarterstaff, karlach with a newly fixed engine, and pact of the blade Wyll with Blood of Lathander. He was pummeled into the floor.||

#

I'm the little baby in the backline, lore bard. Full of skills and 1 (one) Lightning Bolt

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Also Performance is a useful skill. Specially when a bard, but that's not too surprising.

winged vapor
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My favourite for her in the invisible pike

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It’s so strong

austere hinge
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Ah shoot I just bought that I should put it on her

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But also fuck it's a really good staff

soft tundra
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Karlach and the flaming greatsword are a match made in heaven for me, until i start getting some +1/+2 greatswords

severe robin
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Is it possible to Sanctuary her, or does her AI decide to immediately break it by running up to someone and punching them?

winged vapor
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Damm the crèche is rough at tactician at level 5

austere hinge
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Oof yeah I went there after clearing out the underdark of quests

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The creche is pretty mean cause I feel like there's not a huge amount of ways to get experience

sonic pollen
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tbh I just wanted to do the creche first bc I didn't want to piss of Lae'Zel

austere hinge
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All I do is piss off Lae'zel

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And I'm trying to date her

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but you can clear out the whole of underdark and main area then go to the creche and it won't be too rough

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At least from my experience

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It does mean that you technically clear a whole area where you can much easier explore the act 2 area then go back on yourself, but you do get the an instrument that helps if you do that.

sonic pollen
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yeah that sounds like a good plan

austere hinge
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Putting Lae'zel in the brain jiggler also has a chance to cause a debuff, a very good one. I only just avoided it with an expertise in persuasion.

neat plume
simple spire
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Honestly good for them

safe jungle
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Unfortunate but maybe for the best

simple spire
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They created something big and cool and it’s finished

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That’s a happy story

golden grotto
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i kneel...

neon junco
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I want divinity original sin 3

rich plover
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DOS3: This Time it's a Dating Sim

neon junco
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What do you mean this time?

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It always has been

frigid oxide
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I am now vividly hallucinating a ravenloft videogame in the style of BG or NWN

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Please tell me it won't happen

severe robin
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Be the change you want to see

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Allow yourself to be taken by the fey mood

soft tundra
#

larian do a space game

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id love a larian space game

severe robin
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yes

proven forum
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FWIW I get the sense that this is more of a WOTC fuck up than Larian not wanting to produce more

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That said, maybe they can make an incredible divinity 3 now!

clear kestrel
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Tbf larian already has their own fantasy IP

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And from a money perspective, imagine BG3 popularity from an IP you entirely own

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You can sell the crap out of it with merch and the like

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Anything they sell next will have massive hype for free

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Like imagine the hype train for "the next BG3"

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And their reputation is golden

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From a cynical point of view, now is the time to cash in on all that

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(Now as in their next project)

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They basically have a free best seller button even if it's a bad game

severe robin
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Ok but I hope they make a good game

simple spire
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I mean they could also leverage their popularity to work on some other IP they think is fun

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Who's gonna say no?

white sleet
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nintendo

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:p

simple spire
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Let Larian make a Pokemon game you cowards

austere hinge
#

Larian style Mystery Dungeon

simple spire
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Larian makes the next Etrian Odyssey Untold

safe jungle
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Latina studio version of mass effect

neon junco
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Larian studio yugioh duel capsule monster

gloomy cloud
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Larian Studio minecraft

frigid oxide
safe jungle
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Ah yes

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Famous composer Tony fox

simple spire
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No Tony Crab

neon junco
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I now imagine Laezel trying to find where ranch comes from for her creche

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"chk, tell me where the hidden valley is istik and I may show you mercy"

soft tundra
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gotta introduce Lae'zel to dipping things in ranch

gloomy cloud
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do u think she was just drinking it

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taking swigs

simple spire
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Lae’zel squirting mustard directly into her mouth

gloomy cloud
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nah she puts it into a bowl and eats it

simple spire
#

… I feel like I just stumbled on someone’s fetish

gloomy cloud
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like soup

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or... like cream???? idk how you would describe the consistency of mustard

golden grotto
soft tundra
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that got a sensible chuckle from me

neat plume
gloomy cloud
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"After that, though, the future of Astarion, Karlach, and the rest of Baldur's Gate 3's now-beloved characters will be in the hands of Wizards of the Coast."

simple spire
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Good for them

neat plume
austere hinge
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Sadness

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because this means it came from elsewhere

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the fuckin investors

simple spire
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Nah they cancelled a DLC because they weren’t having fun with it

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Or so they claim

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I’m inclined to believe them

tacit sluice
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Could be they're trying to maintain an amicable relation with WotC or Hasbro in case they cross paths again in the future

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Burning bridges makes for bad business when the party on the other side is considerably bigger than yourself

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Not that I'd blame them if that were the case, I imagine I'd do the same in that position

clear kestrel
#

It wouldn't surprise me if the team felt burnt out after a project like that, and didn't want to go beyond to try and top what they did

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That's not even like a work condition thing, just a big project thing

soft tundra
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Yeah that was a massive game

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Still is massive! Its still getting patches n stuff

tacit sluice
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True

gloomy cloud
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They were starting work on a DLC and no one was super into it

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They felt like the DLC was being made just because bg3 was a hit

severe robin
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On one hand, I am kind of sad that we won't be getting like, any new classes or anything

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On the other, I am ecstatic to hear that like, they're doing what they want, and are avoiding burnout and stuff

storm sinew
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TBH the only thing I'd really want from Larian would be any cut content making its way in, but if it's already made and just needs to be implemented

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WOTC could maybe do that and not fuck up

sly flare
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bg3 is already so big it doesnt need more stuff in it

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and Larian moving onto other is exciting, although it's a shame WOTC is gonna have the characters

clear kestrel
#

Did Larian talk about mod support at some point?

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If so, that'd be great to wrap up, although the modding scene isn't doing badly atm

bitter moon
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yeah, they're working on mod support

austere hinge
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Knowing some of the mods I've seen, a healthy mod support on the way out is as good as any DLC, but basically for free

gloomy cloud
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and less creative stress on the side of the devs

soft tundra
#

it fosters goodwill with your community, too

golden grotto
austere hinge
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In act 2 ||I was wandering around the sunken town, it's pretty cool, and I came across the bridge area where gith teleport in to attack you. I decided to go up the side so I can fight on the bridge. The two down below used misty step up to the main fight... which was a bad idea because I hit one with my axe as raging Karlach, then threw that guy off the bridge onto the floor, then threw the SECOND one off the bridge onto the FIRST one. They were not in a good place.||

golden grotto
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||that was a tough fight for me damn||

austere hinge
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It was still pretty tough for me, ||but damn if it didn't feel good to have Karlach go "Get off my bridge" and throw them off.||

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I also got a really cool hat, the helmet of arcane acuity

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It basically increases your spellcasting DC and to hit after you've landed weapon attacks. So as a lore bard with duel wielded hand crossbows I potshot some enemies in the distance to land some attacks, and each successful hit gives you 2 stacks

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and then I use spiritual weapon to summon my spiritual weapon in the fray, which uses my spell attack for it's attack, so it becomes a monster of a summon just floating around

sonic pollen
austere hinge
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||I noticed they were a warlock when they started casting warlock spell thingies at me. Didn't know they were an undead one though. She didn't have a good time because I had Quoth on her blinding her again and again while Karlach chewed through the enemies straight towards them.||

sonic pollen
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||She uses the Form of Dread ability, which is unique to Undead Warlocks||

austere hinge
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Yeah what does that do? I didn't get a chance to really look

sonic pollen
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don't remember what it does exactly in game, but in 5e it ||gives temp hp, gives immunity to Frightened, causes enemies you hit to be frightened on a failed save, and gives some bonus necrotic damage||

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nvm, found what it does in game

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||its the same as the tabletop version, but without the extra damage||

austere hinge
#

Ahhh

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Even funnier

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||Karlach is immune to frighten while she's raging in frenzy mode, so it literally didn't matter other than the temp HP||

sonic pollen
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lol

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god i wish it was available for players

austere hinge
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There might be a mod out there

sonic pollen
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probably, but I'm waiting until I complete honour mode to properly mess around with mods

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or when mod support gets fully integrated, whichever comes first

safe jungle
#

I had karlach throw them all down to the ground

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And then cast hunger of hadar on them all

golden grotto
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karlach warlock… cursed…

soft tundra
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Yeah im waiting for official mod support just to help safeguard my saves

broken pumice
safe jungle
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Karlach fiendlock

broken pumice
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demon^2

sonic pollen
sonic pollen
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my current game is in honour mode, but the menu says tactician.

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i am concerned that i will not get the dice

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help please

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i would like to know if i need to restart or not

gloomy cloud
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It will say that

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The actual difficulty of the enemies is tactician

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Honour is an addition ontop of that

sonic pollen
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I think I accidentally found an inconsistent strategy for the ||Auntie Ethel|| fight in act 1

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||I initiated combat in the teahouse with a sneak attack, and on her turn she moved onto the balcony for some reason. I think the balcony is too far away from the hidden stairs, bc for some reason when I got her to low health she didn't try and run away when it got to her turn, even without stuns.||

austere hinge
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Hah

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Good.

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Fuck 'er, she's a rotter

simple spire
#

It's entirely possible to ||kill her before she gets downstairs, with some luck. The main thing is that you miss out on the hair.||

sonic pollen
#

tbh I can never remember ||that getting the hag hair is an option. I normally either kill her before she gets into her lair or she dies before the dialogue triggers||

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my current plan for the playthrough is simply to ||make it to act 3, do the minimum necessary to get to level 12, then let Gale skip the brain fight for me||

tacit sluice
#

Oh BTW if you ||do the dialogue to make Gale explode himself can he be rezzed later by like that scroll if you didn't use it or Whithers for like a nominal fee for the epilogue or something?||

sonic pollen
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i will make sure to check if when i get there

clear kestrel
storm sinew
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yeah there's no undoing that

tacit sluice
#

Okay, but then can you ||give the Orphic Hammer to the Gith you're helping so they can free Orpheus after you beat the Netherbrain?||

tacit sluice
#

Just trying to figure out if I can finangle certain things to happen after the final boss so I don't screw certain people over

austere hinge
#

In act 2 ||I walked ass backwards through the healers morgue into the horrible death pit and almost got bodied by the slimes and the animated armour||

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||wish I could have learned a spell to make animated armour though||

sly flare
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||the first time I got to that fight. It was with just one character disconnected from the rest of the party. Extremely annoying you can't do anything to alpha strike any of those enemies||

arctic moat
#

extremely important question are there any dyes that can make boots and gloves work with the adamantine armor + shield?

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the lack of drip cohesion is killing me

sonic pollen
#

Honour mode attempt 3 has failed.

Got killed in Act 1 by ||the Nere fight in Grymforge. Wasn't able to get Elder Brithvar on my side for the fight, and got fucked over by the mind mastery/coercion effects. Astarion got thrown into the lava, and Gale got knocked out before he got to take an action.||

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to be honest, I don't know why ||I couldn't talk to Brithvar. He just kept repeating the 'private conversation' line||

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time to try again!

severe robin
sonic pollen
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...why didn't i think of that

#

anyway, Halfling Bard time

austere hinge
#

Eyyyy

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Welcome to the club

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Halfling bard hours, aka I'm throwing a monkey wrench at this problem

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Any thoughts on your subclass?

sonic pollen
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not 100% sure yet

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swords feels like the easiest option

austere hinge
#

I am loving lore

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Lets me steal other peeps spells

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But if you aren't going with a bladelock in the party a sword bard is a lovely middle ground fighter

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Lore bard cutting words also lets you go "fuck your roll I say you fail"

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Also the bard power song of rest is super useful. A free short rest is nothing to sneeze at.

sonic pollen
#

absolutely. song of rest is amazing

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i might try out lore bard then

austere hinge
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It is a while in, but when you can take other spells from other classes, Spirit Weapon from Cleric is amazing. Second level spell free summon.

sonic pollen
#

lore bard tav, wyll bladelock, shart light cleric, and lae'zel battlemaster fight feels like a solid party

austere hinge
#

Lore bards are definitely back liners though.

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Yeah I have that, but frenzied Karlach instead of shart

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It's good to have a decent astarion too because sometimes you need to slice some throats

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Like on sleeping goblins

sonic pollen
#

true

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i could just swap out someone for astarion when I need a sneaky guy

austere hinge
#

Wyll and he do a bit of switching between depending on the situation

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In mine

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"Don't look wyll, astarion is going to work"

sonic pollen
#

gale can just be left out

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until he is needed

austere hinge
#

A bit of advice, bards have special performance rolls a decent amount as special dialogue choices

sonic pollen
#

i am aware, yes

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i am prepared to rizz talk my way out of as many combats as possible

austere hinge
#

Just cause they get expertise you gotta assign

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I went with persuade and medicine and I'm not getting much use out of medicine

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I've done it like twice so far

sonic pollen
#

pursuasion + performance feel like solid options

austere hinge
#

Yeah, BUT you can get the friends cantrip for persuasion checks, so deception is also an idea

sonic pollen
#

tbh I'm not sure I want to risk using friends

austere hinge
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Yeah I know what you mean

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I used it with laezel to get her out of the brain scrambler

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Because she can be mad at me later, her brain was being scrombled

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I wouldn't have passed that without expertise in it though I'll admit

sonic pollen
#

i almost never pass that check

austere hinge
#

Power of bards bby

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Dc30 check to get her out of the brain scrumbler

storm sinew
#

I scummed the fuck out of that one

austere hinge
#

First try!

#

But I was built for it

gloomy cloud
#

Bard is the best class in bg3

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I say this because it's my first

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But college of swords bard is great

bitter moon
#

it kinda unironically is, I think? that or Warlock. Dex gives you extra AC, lets you lockpick/disarm freeing up the thief slot, and you can fight alright (especially with some of the Act 3 stuff...), and Charisma is pretty good as the spellcasting stat because your lead character always defaults to being the "face"

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if nothing else, it's really good for a first run

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Bard is just a great "protagonist class"

winged vapor
#

Barbarian gets the best RP lies, no one will change my mind lol

sonic pollen
#

Paladin is a good contender
"Your god or my oath"

simple spire
#

Paladin Oathbreaker has some good ones

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Nice existentialist comments

austere hinge
#

Though my first is a Lore bard,

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I think most classes have cool speech options I'm just loving bards

#

one of my favourite moments is that when Gale is showing you about the weave you get the option to do his words but grander and bigger

rich plover
#

I've been playing Swords bard in 4p multiplayer, which is strong but kind of boring. The magic arrows are nice, but I still end up feeling like all of my turns are Just Shoot Someone

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I keep thinking about respeccing into Lore, but I don't have very good gear for it. How good is a wizard 1 dip if you don't metagame for the headband of intellect?

simple spire
#

Honestly even if you do it’s not amazing

#

Memorized spell count is real low

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Obviously you can change them Fight to fight

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But it’s a hassle

rich plover
#

aw, bummer. Maybe if there were more ritual spells...

austere hinge
#

My current outfit for a lore bard is the helmet of arcane acuity, wondrous gloves, boots of aid (those are probably getting out of use by now), and padded armour +2

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I get by well

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I think I've got a disengage cloak that lets me drop a smoke cloud on the way out but I don't have many cloak options and the armour one I have is on Lae'zel because she's terrifying nad I love her

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My melee weapons are a club of hill giant strength (to give me a massive stat in strength for skills and jumping like a lunatic) and a dagger on the off hand

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And two handcrossbows to ping at range

soft tundra
rich plover
#

actually, what are some good buffs for a monk? my friend feels like her damage and survivability are both lagging. if I'm respeccing my bard I should pick up more buffs. (and since we're just starting act 2, probably pick up some kind of radiant damage)

austere hinge
#

I got the stinking cloud spell but I'm not sure how good that actually is

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Debuffing the enemies rather than buffing allies

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You can have the heroism spell which gives free hp per turn

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Bane for the enemy

tacit sluice
#

Remind me can you detonate that spell with fire?

austere hinge
#

Second level spells are like
Invisibility and enhance ability and lesser restoration
Debuffs are crown of madness and hold person, heat metal can make someone take damage and drop a weapon

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Third level bard spells are stinking cloud to stop people taking actions while poisoned, feign death would let you put your monk ally to fake death to protect them if they're in a bad spot

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Hypnotic pattern can distract a whole group

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Then level 6 of lore bard lets you get spells from other classes

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Oh you could get "crusaders mantle" as a spell at that level if you want to enchant your ally to do radiant damage.
But you can also get revivify or spirit weapon

arctic moat
sonic pollen
#

...what

#

what the fuck happened to my honour mode save

#

it's just gone

deft crypt
#

That’s a lot of hours

#

Uhh close and reopen the game?

sonic pollen
#

already tried, no dice

#

the save date is also incorrect

#

on the bright side, if there is no salvaging this, i had only just gotten to the grove

sonic pollen
#

yeah i think it's gone

charred niche
#

Ogh that's rough but yeah didn't happen in act 3 at least

#

Can you manual backup the files for the next run?

sonic pollen
#

i can try

#

paladin time

austere hinge
#

The halfling bard had the best of ideas and left

gloomy cloud
#

Thinking of starting an honour mode save but also really want to finish the game first

sonic pollen
#

do your first ending in honour mode

gloomy cloud
#

im already on act 3 on my normal character tho

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like I have PLAYTIME and investment in this