||Is there anyway to get rid of the visual effect of this? I really don't like it. Also didnt want it so it's extremely infuriating having it forced upon me||
#Baldur's Gate 3
sly flare
clear kestrel
||The guy is a dick who only cares about you as a tool to his own ends||
||However I wasn't aware you were forced to go Cemorphis, is this is you don't get Orpheus and don't allow any companions to go cermorphis either?||
severe robin
||I think she's talking about the Astral Tadpole||
sly flare
||Emperor was like "Do cermorphis" and the only option I had to reject it was a will save||
||It's not full, only like half||
clear kestrel
||Oh that one, it's difficulty is based on the amount of worms taken before IIRC||
||So if you take 0 it's a free pass||
clear kestrel
My first one was no worm as well
safe jungle
And they ||didnt need a roll at all||
simple spire
Tragedevesty
tired nova
for those that want to get her in a good playthrough
you need to knock her out unconcious while she is temporary hostile
instead of just hostile
safe jungle
Like steal stuff in her sight line to piss her off?
tired nova
i guess?
safe jungle
Seems a bit gamey but I suppose so is quill
tired nova
frigid oxide
Sadly that's one of those things videogames will probably never do as well as a human running the table
Well "sadly" honestly I'm glad some things will always be in the hands of tabletop
winged vapor
I believe if you start a fight just by attacking her and not dialogue it works
frigid oxide
I'm still mad that in our main 2P game my buddy knocked her off a ledge
I was gonna eat that worm 
I still think ||the emperor's reaction to you eating the special worm instead of sharing it|| is funny
rich plover
my character is the personification of Fuck Around and Find Out, so I tried to slurp the first worm we found...which makes the game tell you "Your Dream Guardian will tell you when it's time for that"
frigid oxide
I simply yearn for immense supernatural power despite being a barbarian
soft tundra
I did learn that you can't recruit Minthara by baiting the goblins to the grove, yeah :(
austere hinge
I am now double fisting +1 hand crossbows
I keep running out of spells because I'm doing the healing plus bard stuff
So I was told by chat (I do streams of my first run through) that I could have minthara live by stealing in front of her then knocking her unconscious. So I will meet her later. She was terrible though, literally hold person on the bard then running through the entire team to smite me and instant kill me
simple spire
Double hand crossbows good
austere hinge
I'm going barding
austere hinge
Hey so since I've just passed it... is there any way to sneakily kill that hobgoblin in the goblin area?
I wound up just dropping a bomb on their followers
safe jungle
Which hobgoblin in the goblin area?
austere hinge
The leader bloke. The one trying to talk to a mind player corpse
safe jungle
Ahh yes
sly flare
Hey so since I've just passed it... is there any way to sneakily kill that hobgo...
I closed the door and killed his whole gang, put someone on the drum to stop them calling in reinforcements. Although that's probably not what you meant
safe jungle
I think I just called the ogre horn there
clear kestrel
The leader bloke. The one trying to talk to a mind player corpse
You sorta can with silence but I think the camp is aggrod when he dies
clear kestrel
You can sneaky kill the priest lady though I think
austere hinge
Yeah I snuck up to the rafters, dropped a bomb on his followers in front of him, then had a bad ass rafters fight
clear kestrel
Coool
austere hinge
I did kill priest lady sneaky style. I asked to talk in her Chambers and snuck Karlach behind her and crit a smite
clear kestrel
Silence also works there
It actually has a lot of fun uses
For example in act 2 ||when breaking out the prisoners you can silence their picks to stop the guards being altered||
sly flare
I killed the priest sneaky style ||Got kidnapped and had my ass saved by some random person working for a devil||
austere hinge
The worst thing for that leader dude is that I decided I did not want to fight him fair and hideous laughtered him while Harolding and hand crossbowing the followers.
austere hinge
I do not know the flask
clear kestrel
Ah well ill keep that a secret
simple spire
For example in act 2 ||when breaking out the prisoners you can silence their pic...
I just ||slaughtered the guards first >_>||
clear kestrel
Also works 😛
sly flare
||I never came across any prisoners in act 2 but I think I did it real weird||
clear kestrel
They're in ||the tower basement||
austere hinge
But yeah the dude was immediately on the rafters, then on his ass laughing for like three turns, even when Karlach went in and started to smack them really hard in the face
sly flare
Lae'zel trip into a beat down is the best stratergy I've found so far
just trip them then get your entire party to kick them
clear kestrel
Ah the power of friendship and extreme violence
austere hinge
Also I'm trying to date lae'zel and she already has said she wants me carnally and I'm honestly surprised because she barely seems to like me. Wyll likes me a lot more
clear kestrel
They have different thresholds for that sorta thing
Some want to bang you before they love you
simple spire
Lae’zel is by far the fastest to sleep with you
simple spire
She just needs the barest sliver of respect >_>
sly flare
Karlash wants to smash like, immediately
simple spire
Wyll propositioned me in Act 2 and turning him down was like kicking a puppy
austere hinge
Just a bit surprised is all. Wyll has like double her approval points. Not that I'm complaining.
clear kestrel
Ye, like I say it varies on character
Which makes more sense imo than the classic bioware, get 100% approval to unlock sex scene
austere hinge
Yee
sly flare
Bioware loves to put a sex scene just before the final boss
austere hinge
I will say it makes me suspect that lae'zel is sniffing me though.
austere hinge
She keeps bringing up scent and I'm a weird looking halfling so I'm like... I... see. When have you sniffed me?
It just makes me think of that thing...
sly flare
people just hate to see a girl winning (smelling you secretly)
austere hinge
Combat do be stinky
me and my...
checks notes
Barely moving while screaming insults at the enemy
sly flare
Don't bards cast spells by using their musical instruments?
austere hinge
I don't need them in hand most of the time
Double fisting hand crossbows and screaming insults
grave prism
we are once again troubleshooting mods to see if we can get party limit thing to work
austere hinge
Oh a bigger party limit?
grave prism
ye
tired nova
we are once again troubleshooting mods to see if we can get party limit thing to...
any issues in particular?
tired nova
hmm
grave prism
playing 4-player
tired nova
ive had mixed results with it, it always breaks the new character screen
but i got it working in act 2 yesterday
but when i tried the same a while ago in act 1 it didnt work
grave prism
we tried making a new campaign to make it work but it just did not
tired nova
in my experience even when installed correctly, it messes with character creation
so maybe enable it after you have a save on the nautiloid?
grave prism
we're currently in act 1 ofc
we got past character creation perfectly fine both times
but we can't recruit more people
tired nova
:(
severe robin
Uh what
So uh, I chose Gale as my Origin, and died
And got resurrected
||But the aura is still there||
grave prism
alright, gonna verify integrity on the game to see if i can get the party limit mod work
austere hinge
I will admit I'm kinda spooked about going down into ||the underdark|| in act 1.
I've found it like TWICE so far, both terrible ideas. It certainly feels like... a higher difficulty place.
But I've purposefully barely explored it
wise mango
||I'd recommened being at 5th level||
austere hinge
I'm getting there
I also found a bag full of gold and a spider egg. I'm... guessing these are like a summon? Or do I keep them in my inventory and a little buddy hatches?
storm sinew
It's a thrown thing iirc
austere hinge
Yeetus
I also found a "charming little egg"
Lots of eggs in my last session
I think that one is just an egg
deft crypt
egg
austere hinge
egg
neon junco
Egg.
wise mango
egg
clear kestrel
This conversation is very different if you're githyanki
grave prism
ok so we did end up figuring out the problem with the party limit remover
because of how we did the mod setup, aka one person in our group setting it up and everyone else downloading their setup
only that person had the actual mod installed properly
everyone else just had the multiplayer patch properly installed
so uh
yeah that was a thing
clear kestrel
Least it's worked out now
simple spire
It’s really funny how if (Act 2 end spoilers) ||you eat the Astral Tadpole, Emperor gives the most exasperated “well okay I guess if it works”||
“Tav what the fuck are you doing”
neon junco
This conversation is very different if you're githyanki
I imagine of a room of githyabki at the creche just pointing and saying egg to the room full of eggs
merry wharf
Hit level 5 and my build is online
severe robin
Love that
merry wharf
4 attacks, an assured 12 damage on top of whatever the die rolls, and the ability to make a character vulnerable to piercing
Nova bow build
severe robin
4 attacks?
safe jungle
Would turning phaalar aluve into a spear be an act of heresy
Curious half drow would like to inquire
simple spire
Like with a mod?
safe jungle
Ye
wise mango
throwing a phaalar aluve as a spear sounds fun
if the shriek goes with it you can do some real damage with BT berserker and eld knight
simple spire
I wish there were some stronger Favored Weapons in the game
Charge-Bound Warhammer is good but it’s gonna trail off eventually
winged vapor
It’s pretty good till mid act three I think
simple spire
… okay it’s been a while since I’ve whined about how this is not actually a successor to BG 1/2, but having seen this
Auuuuuuuugh
deft crypt
if you know it's whining
simple spire
The Flail of Ages is a much-heralded weapon in BG2, a +3 flail with multiple heads, upgradable to +5 by adding more of them, with each head dealing a different type of elemental damage. It’s supposed to be a weapon of legend!
Why even call this it
soft tundra
Its kinda cracked by 5e standards
variable melee weapon type w/ afflictions
I do think its funny how Act 1 is very much its own game, but Act 2+3 really ties it all back into BG1+2
soft tundra
its a clean way to do it without going "hey go play an ancient pc game to understand any of this"
deft crypt
two ancient pc games
pearl sky
two ancient pc games
two ancient PC games plus a hefty expansion pack
austere hinge
Just to ask, because I think I broke the chain by rescuing Halsin first, what happens if you find ||all that stuff about Kagha being a dark storm druid or whatever they're called|| before you rescue Halsin? Can you do anything with it? I keep trying to talk to Halsin about it and it's never an option
signal tendon
Hey uhhhhh I just watched Raph’s bossfight for the first time
Why the fuck is this song going so hard???!?
What were they on for this????????
severe robin
Passion.
severe robin
Just to ask, because I think I broke the chain by rescuing Halsin first, what ha...
||You bring it to Kagha, the rats around her transform into Shadow Droods, and you fight. There's a check to get Kagha to side with you in the fight against the Shadow Droods, otherwise you gots ta kill her||
austere hinge
That explains where they went after Halsin came back
It was rather weird to me that you can rescue a druid in the underground area around the back of the jail area and they basically go and sit there and do nothing. maybe say thank you but otherwise they sit back and do nothing.
signal tendon
What were they on for this????????
Like fuck ||Raph hitting that “a tomb!” Genuinely gave me goosebumps. Also the female singer just kills it the whole time||
rich plover
||You bring it to Kagha, the rats around her transform into Shadow Droods, and y...
...huh. That's weird, but it feels like more resolution than ||Halsin going "lmao, she learned her lesson" about his fascist underling who was working with the cartoonishly evil druids||
zealous shale
Like fuck ||Raph hitting that “a tomb!” Genuinely gave me goosebumps. Also the f...
||why did they give him a Disney villain theme? Idk but its perfect||
austere hinge
Oh also I bedded Lae'zel
I think the only one at the tiefling party that didn't want to fuck me was Shadowheart
Maybe Karlach but that didn't come up cause I was just like "you're cool I hope you have fun"
I'm guessing Lae'zel is the only romance scene where you can roll an intimidation check
signal tendon
Would not be surprised if you could also for Karlach or Astarion
soft tundra
...huh. That's weird, but it feels like more resolution than ||Halsin going "lma...
He does make her entirely start over from the bottom rung with the implication she has to work for a very long time to get any sort of forgiveness
Karlach's Act 1 romance can be missed if you recruit her too late to gain the good approval points
soft tundra
Like fuck ||Raph hitting that “a tomb!” Genuinely gave me goosebumps. Also the f...
His VA is brilliant the entire game, his poetry is fun
tired nova
Second playthrough, figured out how to get minthara, including a test to see if i was right
Steal something in front of her,
attack her when accused
knock her out
finish goblin camp quest
if halsin is in the grove youre good
shell go back to full health and being awake if you do a full rest, but her ai will be broken
but she will be present in moonrise towers so you dont have to re temp aggro her and knock her out again
tested by just rushing to moonrise towers and she was there
did my best to keep spoilers to a minimum in the explanation 
now to just do the rest of act 1
again
😭
soft tundra
it gets easier once youve done it seven or eight times :)
simple spire
Hm. Lategame weapon spoiler: ||Duelist’s Prerogative|| is really good, huh?
Like, even for non-finesse characters.
tired nova
it gets easier once youve done it seven or eight times :)
oh i know, i kinda can just do it with no issues these days
its just tedious since i just finished it and then minthara wasnt at moonrise
soft tundra
It happened to me too :(
tired nova
i rolled 3 crit 1s in a row...
clear kestrel
So surely you'll nat 20 next
safe jungle
i've been indulging quite often in dark urge options
and it seems like if you do that tav's ambient dialogue changes subtly
well kinda obviously
she starts muttering about how she wants to build a keep of blood and bones
her dreams of red
and something about guts
grave prism
looking MIGHTY DIVINE rn
damn this is so cool
it does hurt me unfortunately, but it hurts enemies as well which is really good
DIVINE POWER FLOWS THROUGH ME
safe jungle
did you cast moonbeam on yourself
safe jungle
does it turn you into a giant tressym
soft tundra
It is entirely possible within FR lore for aasimar she was just spawned into existence
safe jungle
true
simple spire
Alternately it is entirely possible within FR lore that her dad is Just Some Bloke
grave prism
i'm not sure what divine blood my character has(her name is Astraea Caerulaea) but she follows Ilmater
simple spire
Anyway historically an aasimar just has some blood of the upper planes, they're not even a half-celestial, much less of a half-god
soft tundra
Yeah, shes like, Actually Celestial
tired nova
unbugged, unmodded minthara get
deft crypt
How long did that take
tired nova
:)
deft crypt
Yeah
tired nova
yeah
gaunt jackal
yeah
tired nova
this was mostly just, reclearing act 1 tbh
since the first time around it didnt fucking count
gaunt jackal
why not??
tired nova
you need to knock her unconcious while she is temporary hostile
so if you attack her as part of the story dialogue
and knock her out
it doesnt count
you need to like, steal something in front of her, and attack her that way
wise mango
mhm, I might just try that
cause being evil has kinda made me not want to play BG3 anymore
austere hinge
unfortunate Minthara is evil
I can't really argue about people liking evil people I'm trying to date Lae'zel
tired nova
i can fix her 
austere hinge
the look I gave the computer was so, so tired
tired nova
austere hinge
Also, first scene with Lae'zel, ||it's really kinda weird to see a halfling topping her|| but it helps because my halfling has a face that resembles a car crash in slow motion
wise mango
pfft, that's certainly a colourful description
austere hinge
Their name is Pabrimgolin, or Pabby for short, and is a fleshy shade of blue, while vaguely resembling keith richards. I'd take a screen shot but I just turned my main computer off.
They also have multiple vicious scars
Keith Richards btw
winged vapor
Man land Druid is dope, I feel like it’s not talked about enough
Their spells are bonkers
gaunt jackal
Man land Druid is dope, I feel like it’s not talked about enough
It's good, but Moon has always been the better subclass and the gulf is even wider in BG3
Since Moon has ridiculous monstrous forms it doesn't have access to in the TTRPG
deft crypt
is moon the wildshape focussed one?
gaunt jackal
Yeah
BA Wildshape, can consume spell slots to heal in wild shape, has access to unique wild shape forms
deft crypt
unique and stronger
gaunt jackal
Yeah, also lets wild shape attacks overcome resistance to non-mag attacks
Which gets very common later
winged vapor
It’s definitely bonkers but honestly I think it’s spells outclass the wild shapes, especially since you get access to most of the same forms
I think because you have just so much more gear
simple spire
Or just tavern brawler owlbear :D
wise mango
owlbear from the top ropes
grave prism
not me buying a item that sets my strength to 19 but forgetting that it was counted as armor so i can't use it cause i'm a Monk 😔
wise mango
you could take 1 in something else to get the prof for it?
grave prism
probably going to just respec and take 1 rogue at lvl 6
wise mango
2 in fighter is always a good thing
grave prism
since i already planned to take 4 rogue levels it's not a problem
just annoying that i dropped 1.2k on an item i can't use
wise mango
just kill the shopkeep
grave prism
lmao
grave prism
i want to get a belt that sets my strength to 29, i guess technically we are supposed to find it in the wild, but the mod creator made it so that the merchant has that item
so i don't think it's unreasonable that if i gather the gold i need, that i should buy it
the reason i wanted it was cause i am grabbing tavern brawler at lvl 4 and it'll be useless to me atm cause my strength is 8
wise mango
he had a really good set of armour and I was broke so... Suprise darkness and then mysterious person conked him on the head and left woob woob woobing into the night
grave prism
i need to wait until at least lvl 6 to make use of it cause i want to get the good Monk stuff you get at lvl 5
grave prism
Tavern Brawler is very good
since i am playing a Monk it'll fit well with my unarmed strikes
tired nova
not me buying a item that sets my strength to 19 but forgetting that it was coun...
i just use the giant strength elixirs
soft tundra
My lazy monk brawler method was the stool of giant strength offhand
tired nova
theres also the giant strength club ye
soft tundra
It Just Works
grave prism
My lazy monk brawler method was the stool of giant strength offhand
sounds like a good idea
though the item i want sets strength to like, 29
which is why i particularly want it
soft tundra
Whew 29
grave prism
yeah
soft tundra
Thats shatteringly massive
grave prism
yes
that's why i wanted it in particular
technically all of the items from that mod are available to find in the world
but considering our druid bought a +5 shield which was added with the mod from a merchant
i think it's not unreasonable for me to get the strength belt
safe jungle
Belt of storm giant strength?
grave prism
something like that
winged vapor
Okay, which class makes the best necromancer
deft crypt
wizard can get a necromancy spell no one else can right?
safe jungle
Cleric
severe robin
I believe Wizard is better for raising stronger, more powerful undead, and spore druid is more suited to "drown them in hordes of weak zombies"
Spore Druid can do it too
Clerics aren't that good at it, though, because Death Cleric isn't in the game unmodded
safe jungle
Your party members are your zombies with revivify
severe robin
They can do it, but they have no way of speccing into it
winged vapor
Anyone can get the ghouls and such
They are a bit stronger under wizard
Spore Druids can also summon the ghouls
Create undead is kinda meh the mummy is cool but I’d prefer 3 ghouls
deft crypt
i was thinking of danse macabre but anyone can get that
severe robin
It's easiest as Sorc, I think
Because Sorc get the option to turn all of the saves into Charisma saves, while Wizards can only turn the first save into Int
So Sorcerers get to make all the saves using their strongest save, wheras Wizards only get to make the easier save even easier
rich plover
if this is about Necromancy of Thay, bards have it pretty easy. They get performance checks which are easy to stack bonuses onto.
winged vapor
Yeah true but I’m assuming this will be a necromancy build
I wonder if necromancer lore bard is worth a shot
rich plover
depends on if you're alright with vanilla animate dead, coming online one level late?
tired nova
hhhh
hate the returning pike
it keeps not returning
and i lost it again cause of it
neon junco
RIP
My problem with returning throing weapons is they replace the weapon in your hand
Not a great backup weapon for 2 handers
tired nova
i use it on tavern brawler monk
so my main is unarmed, and unequipping is a free action thankfully
neon junco
Yea I didn't have much issue with it on a tavern brawler berserker barb
That was focused purely on throwing
soft tundra
Okay, which class makes the best necromancer
Wizard, the necromancer subclass really boosts them
safe jungle
Would you trust Boo to be judge jury and executioner
austere hinge
pfft, that's certainly a colourful description
The face of a halfling that has experienced a lot well before the game begins.
He's a bard which is why his hair is multi coloured
austere hinge
Knife throwing (victim)
wise mango
The face of a halfling that has experienced a lot well before the game begins.
That is... yeah not someone you'd like to meet in a dark alley that's for sure
austere hinge
And he's only a halfling so he's short
soft tundra
mr emperor is helping me find my sword :)
grave prism
got Gift of the Metallic Dragon as a feat for lvl 4 since i can't use my strength set item that i bought for Tavern Brawler
i can add my proficiency bonus to my AC on a reaction
which is nice
also our druid now has 25 AC when concentrating at lvl 4
safe jungle
I got this modded pair of gloves that gives me one cast of teleport that can impact enemies
I’ve been using it to throw people into the Hunger
grave prism
did the enemies get buffed too
we are playing on tactician with hidden health and a thing that unlocks honor mode features
so yeah enemies are stronger
so far the coolest thing i've gotten in this modded run is this
looks sick as fuck when i use it too
it lasts 10 turns but it's really cool
self damage kinda sucks but it's real good against enemies
safe jungle
Are there any enemies who use radiant damage btw
silk dune
I wanna say yes?
austere hinge
Whoo
dawn valley
It took me 20 years to get the Skorm Bow in Fable 1
deft crypt
just learned the baldurs gate 3 speedrun is less than four minutes long
simple spire
Yep
grave prism
yeah it's pretty crazy
like my first playthrough was 150 hours
me and my party played it for so long that significant gameplay updates came out so the game was legit quite a lot different when we started than when we ended
deft crypt
it's an interesting one to have a speedrun for
severe robin
What the heck is going on in that speedrun
deft crypt
lots of jumping
it's only got spoilers for one ending the earliest possible one
if anyone wants to see can post a video explaining it here
clear kestrel
In short you
severe robin
Ah, yeah that makes sense why they chose Gale
I've never done that so I forgot you could
deft crypt
In short you
me?
clear kestrel
||Get gale, warp over to the next region cos there's no checks stopping you, glitch the gale corpse into the final fight of act 2 which allows gale to blow up and end the game||
simple spire
Short
clear kestrel
In short you: thing I just spoiled
signal tendon
gods thats so fucking funny
bleak wagon
the time should totally include character creation
End game spoiler question: ||Why does blowing up the elder brain with gale in act 2 unleash all the ithilid across the sword coast but not in act 3?||
severe robin
End game spoiler question: ||Why does blowing up the elder brain with gale in ac...
||In Act Two you destroy the Brain, stopping it from stopping the tadpoles from hatching. In Act Three you take control of the brain, ordering it and everything it controls to die, killing all the tadpoles instead of just releasing them.||
bleak wagon
||In Act Two you destroy the Brain, stopping it from stopping the tadpoles from ...
||But I thought gale blowing up skips the dominate the fight and sequence||
soft tundra
Twitter
neon junco
Gonna show this to new players that don't know who to romance
austere hinge
I didn't even realize that Lae'zel counted as insatiably horny
More than the rest, you know
I suppose they do have some of that "good religious girl who was raised believing in all the religious teachings but also the moment she breaks free whips violently into debauchery as self actualization" vibe
clear kestrel
She does have the speedrun record
neon junco
Not as Speedrun as it's been patched to be later in act 1
I don't think gith see sex as like anything purey for reproduction or entertainment, I have no idea how it works considering they lay eggs
Iirc there's no risk of pregnancy between laezel and tav according to laezel, I assume cause I was not a gith
simple spire
I don't think gith see sex as like anything purey for reproduction or entertainm...
Special egg-layers
Lae’zel’s extremely grateful she can just have sex whenever without fear of pregnancy
safe jungle
Yeah
Only special egg layers in githyanki culture can lay eggs
It’s unclear what is the requirement to become an egg layer
sly flare
Lae'zel is like "the idea of sexual reproduction is literally a nightmare"
safe jungle
But involves some kind of blessing somehow
Considering she thanks vlaakith for this I think githyanki culture encourages some sexual promiscuity as a kind of a stress relief
Probably cheaper than hiring musicians
austere hinge
"why would you ever do that?" is a reasonable response to sexual reproduction if you have an alternative honestly
neon junco
I assume since egg layers are chosen that they receive a level of indoctrination and it's an honor to them to have an important role in gith society
Also the darker more tyrannical side of only your loyalists can grow their numbers and traitors cannot
sly flare
I assume egg layers would be like, inhuman like Broodqueens rather than just a Githyanki who lays an egg
safe jungle
That egg is the size of a human torso
neon junco
I would assumed they reused models but also you can convince someone the owlbear egg is a gith egg and those are massive
So i'm not sure
austere hinge
I'm just going to say that if someone has to kneel down and squat something that size out on the regular, they probably enjoy themselves, specially if it's a blessing of some kind and optional
sly flare
That's more because no ones ever seen a gith egg so they don't know what it looks like, so they just assume a big egg is the right thing
safe jungle
I rolled the deception check on it
The person still didn’t buy it, but liked my idea
“Ah, I see what you are saying. There is no way the rest of the people back at the Society would even know the difference. I like your idea, friend. Here is your payment.”
austere hinge
Considering how skinny owls are under their feathers, I can imagine that somehow Gith are actually evolved Owlbears from the future.
safe jungle
Society seeing owl bears hatch from a Gith egg
“Githyanki are polymorphed owl bears! No wonder they are all evil!”
clear kestrel
Me holding up a feathered chicken: Behold, a Gith!
austere hinge
This is my headcannon now
safe jungle
Why can they jump that far? Owl bear physiology
austere hinge
Cause I think Gith are from the future
Gith are actually featherless owlbears that have evolved
sly flare
Gith are actually from the past, like all people of the world
They do also exist in the future though
safe jungle
The future past
deft crypt
days of
austere hinge
I thought there was this whole thing about Gith coming from the future where mindflayers won and enslaved them all and they managed to escape back in time and basically are hunting Mind flayers down in the past to stop the horrible hell future they came from?
sly flare
The Gith are just an ex-slave race I think engineered by the Mindflayers from when they have a big empire
like the horrible thing they're trying to stop is the return of the inter-dimensional Mindflayer empire which just existed in the past
austere hinge
I thought that was the thing, it was the future, and then they went back to stop the Mindflayer empire from ever happening
clear kestrel
Lazeal: On this day I am reminded of the battles from the Gith before me. We pass down armour and weapons worn by our greatest warriors. And this suit is most honored of all. The gith who wore it was of immense stature, and slayed many foes with their bare hands and teeth
||And it's just the owl bear armour you get in act 3||
Afaik, time in the astral planes is vague, so both can be true
austere hinge
featherless owlbear people
safe jungle
Say Bork if you approve of the new Illithis Empire in the city of R’lyeh
austere hinge
Bork
safe jungle
It will be the world of madness, not peace
austere hinge
neat
simple spire
I thought there was this whole thing about Gith coming from the future where min...
Nah, it’s the mind flayers who are time travelers
They’re strongly implied to be part of a time loop
austere hinge
yeah I thought the Gith were from the later end on that and were trying to stop the whole empire thing
simple spire
The mind flayers come from the future, when the stars have all gone out, travel into the past, erect an empire, then Gith and her followers smash said empire, her followers split between those who want to make their own empire and devote themselves to mind flayer eradication vs. Zerthimon’s followers who would like to figure out who they themselves are
austere hinge
So... yes, Gith are from the future?
simple spire
No, the they I was starting with are the illithid
Edited for clarity
Gith races are the descendants of humans the mind flayers captured and modified to use as livestock upon their arrival in the past
safe jungle
I wonder if illithid selectively bred githyanki brains for deliciousness
simple spire
Probably
soft tundra
Considering what the illithids did to duergar, probably
simple spire
Dak’kon, in PS:T, actually worries that the split between githzerai and githyanki was engineered by the illithid to keep themselves from being wiped out
That Zerthimon may have been under mind flayer control
soft tundra
Thats a conspiracy theory i can get behind
simple spire
He ultimately concludes it was not the case, or at least that it doesn’t matter, but it’s a big part of his personal torment
safe jungle
It was vlaakith’s fault
frigid oxide
Githzerai in their adamantine fortresses be like "lmao if they did they fucked up"
simple spire
It was vlaakith’s fault
Was it? In PS:T it’s stated as a conflict between Zerthimon and Gith herself
tired nova
It was vlaakith’s fault
99% of gith history in 4 words
safe jungle
Was it? In PS:T it’s stated as a conflict between Zerthimon and Gith herself
It was vlaakith’s fault somehow
sly flare
Somehow Palpatine Vlakith's fault returned
frigid oxide
Tldr Gith fucked around and found out, but in her absence Vlaakith said "the problem with the illithid empire is we didn't run it" which led to the githzerai fucking off to Limbo to wait out whatever they're doing
soft tundra
theres something neat to find in the legacy of hatred the illithid have left behind
safe jungle
Tldr Gith fucked around and found out, but in her absence Vlaakith said "the pro...
So it was Vlaakith’s fault
frigid oxide
It's a lot of people's fault but Vlaakith is absolutely on the list
But yeah the initial schism was between Gith and Zerthimon
But Vlaakith runs things now that the pact with Tiamat is sealed
We don't know what Gith's actual fate is but she's also on team "we should rule the universe" so to hell with that
safe jungle
Are Githzerai less evil
severe robin
Yes
austere hinge
They still exist on a plane where individualism can cause the literal walls to crumble apart so they still have that dogma
Also I went and fought Ethel
I did NOT keep Connor. I wish her luck taming her new husband.
soft tundra
I like mayrina
severe robin
Yeah she's cool
austere hinge
I'm not the BIGGEST fan of her trying to sell of kid to a hag
but the fact she's willing to try and get her husband back is fair
I hope there's future stuff in baldur's gate with her and her zombie husband
sly flare
I mean like, I think at births the best time for a child to be sold morally speaking
Because then they don't have too much trauma
austere hinge
Oh I also have opened the horrible necromancy book, and when it tried to corrupt me I... lymericked the book into submission
soft tundra
I'm not the BIGGEST fan of her trying to sell of kid to a hag
slight spoilers for ways information can go in that quest: ||you can find out a way to tell mayrina that her daughter wasnt just going for adoption, ethel was going to eat her, and she immediately changes her mind about it; she genuinely thought she was, at the very least, giving her kid a good life to learn magic||
austere hinge
||Ah fair. I thought I'd scoured the area, how do you find out she was going to eat the babe?||
sly flare
||She's really annoying when you go kill Ethel because she's all like "Nooo don't do this for me!! I don't want it!" and I'm like "This hag personally slighted me, that's why I'm fucking killing her. I forgot about you, this is for the infinite Torment door"||
austere hinge
I used non lethal attacks on the four people in masks down below
then uh... removed the masks from two
I think I ripped their face off
soft tundra
||Ah fair. I thought I'd scoured the area, how do you find out she was going to ...
Iirc you || kill ethel, disguise self+speak with dad ||
sly flare
||The most dangerous spell, Speak with dad. Immiedatly let someones father know that they were being mean to you||
soft tundra
Rip typo
soft tundra
No im just bad at typing one handed
safe jungle
||Ah fair. I thought I'd scoured the area, how do you find out she was going to ...
Cast speak with dead on ||hag corpse||
frigid oxide
||She's really annoying when you go kill Ethel because she's all like "Nooo don'...
Mood
simple spire
Are Githzerai less evil
Conventionally githzerai are lawful neutral and githyanki are any evil
Although it’s complicated because zerai were subject to a retcon from CN to LN
frigid oxide
Githzerai are contemplation monks at the moment
simple spire
Basically Dak’kon from PS:T was LN and mad cool, so they changed the rest of the zerai to be more like him
frigid oxide
In floating metal fortress inside the plane of Limbo where they're one of the few constants because of hilarious magic
simple spire
Their whole thing is order-in-chaos
frigid oxide
I dig them
safe jungle
What if order is chaos
If a plane is meant to be chaotic
Isn’t being orderly the most chaotic thing
simple spire
Limbo is subject to the mind, so a focused will can shape it and control it
frigid oxide
Slaad noises
simple spire
Isn’t being orderly the most chaotic thing
Ah, so about that
soft tundra
Slaad are soooooo cool
simple spire
Do you know the story of the spawning stone?
safe jungle
No
frigid oxide
You're in for a treat
simple spire
Okay, so in the distant past, slaad were strange and inconstant creatures, born from the pure chaos of Limbo
But the mightiest of the slaad (at the time), Ygorl, was full of fear
It knew that by the nature of Limbo, a greater slaad than it was only a matter of time
The true slaad by their very nature would never have a lord
So Ygorl did the most chaotic thing it could: it reached out to Primus, the First among the Modrons and master of Mechanus
It betrayed the cause of chaos, because why wouldn’t it
safe jungle
simple spire
It worked with Primus to create the Spawning Stone, which focused the energies of Limbo to create all new slaad within very particular parameters
To give them a clear hierarchy of evolution and growth in power
And to lock them beneath Ygorl and the other mighty “slaad lords”
This is why slaad are frogs
Why their power is predictable by color
Why they can fit in a bestiary :D
Why Gray Slaad turn to the Abyss for greater power and become Death Slaad
But of course, Limbo can’t truly be contained
Rare True Slaad are still born in its wild reaches
frigid oxide
One day someone might will the L to move and turn them all to leafy greens
simple spire
Sooner or later, a new slaad lord will emerge, perhaps even mightier than Ygorl
Chaos as a “faction” in D&D suffers from this problem a fair bit: it’s not really committed to its own cause
Even most demons don’t give a shit about the Blood War
(If they did they could not be withstood, really)
sonic pollen
only 20%?
storm sinew
It's a good achievement
sonic pollen
one of the best achievements
clear kestrel
Tbf, it is bugged
It didn't trigger for me on my first run
And I think you need to kill the big owl bear? Not sure
clear kestrel
I think they nerfed it in honor mode
grave prism
also 11-16 damage 2x per turn without even using any resources
clear kestrel
Monks get very silly
grave prism
it's gonna be 3 attacks later
which is gonna be sick
oh yeah
and from lvl5 forward on Monk i get an extra attack too
so it's going to be like, 4 attacks per turn
clear kestrel
They get a lot of good items to
wise mango
I think they nerfed it in honor mode
not by much
they just fixed it
because TB applies to all instances of thrown damage in non-honur mode
grave prism
rolling +str mod. x2 on both attack and damage roll is crazy
wise mango
including stuff that it shouldn't, like the return of a returning weapon or any extra effects that a throw weapon has
simple spire
I think they nerfed it in honor mode
When I looked into it I couldn’t find anything about that
They did nerf thirsting blade/extra attack
white sleet
only 20%?
It's very easy to go through act 1 and never get the cub because you just didn't rest enough or know what to do in my experience
austere hinge
I should sleep more
severe robin
It's very easy to go through act 1 and never get the cub because you just didn't...
You need to rest like, 3 times, with no other unseen events for the owlbear cub to show up in your camp, with the game yelling at you "Oh my god you need to fix this immediately before you turn into a mind flayer in seven days!!!"
grave prism
kinda horseshit
my party specifically rested as little as possible to conserve time and resources
severe robin
And like, yes, technically you can long rest without spending any camp supplies, but who would ever think to do that?
charred niche
I was a monk my first playthrough, two short rests got me through like levels 1-4, i barely rested due to worm thoughts
well, two and a bard. love ya bards
austere hinge
As a bard
yes
love me
clear kestrel
Tbf you basically can't run out of camping supplies
The game gives you so much food
simple spire
So much
soft tundra
Ive run out twice on Honor due to needing to rest way more
simple spire
I’m in act 3 with something upwards of 2,000 supplies
safe jungle
For honorrr
Also in act 3 you stop needing food
Because you can get meals delivered
soft tundra
That parts very nice
Plus heroes feast
I think rests are a good way to evaluate if youre playing on the right difficulty for your fun
charred niche
I'm enough of a loot goblin to support rests, but it also means I take so damn long on each map
Got to find those important barrels with two fish heads and a sad note
Larian loves sad notes
signal tendon
Is there a particular point in which Neil Young’s performance goes particularly crazy? I’ve been seeing a lot of people praise it, but a lot of what people point to is just the character being written good
This isn’t me being a critic I just genuinely feel I’ve missed something
neon junco
I think his performance is kind of consistent but little better towards act 3
Nothing like groundbreaking I'd say if you're not super impressed with late act 1 Astarion
signal tendon
Wild
neon junco
His emotional moments are nice but I think like the meme famous lines are the best ones with the most emotions behind them
simple spire
Wait Neil Young?
Astarion’s voice actor is named Neil Young
Okay no it’s Neil Newbon
severe robin
I misread that as "Neil Newborn"
neon junco
He's Neil oldborn now
simple spire
Not Neil Young, famous American singer songwriter
simple spire
Generally I think Neil Young’s performance goes particularly crazy when he gets to Like A Hurricane
:P
rich plover
I think you have to respec him into druid for that
soft tundra
Is there a particular point in which Neil Young’s performance goes particularly ...
His romance is extremely well done
And his questline resolution is very well acted
clear kestrel
Yeah I think people really liked his story
Especially if you attempt to romance
And his voice acting did a good job with some tough serious lines
But you still get to have fun with him bitching about stuff
sonic pollen
Act 3 spoiler
||damn, that genie is an asshole||
safe jungle
He turned you into a cheese
clear kestrel
Good loot there thou
winged vapor
Anyone know if radiant orb still stacks like it used to? I heard it’s kinda buggy now
safe jungle
My durge conversation between her and her ||butler||
“I can’t do that, that’ll get people killed!”
“Perhaps my lady forgot to consider all the piles of dead bodies and gore?”
“Okay that sounds really good, but I shouldn’t!”
austere hinge
I've been fooling around in the underdark
I'm worried about asking but... what's in the hole?
sly flare
I'm trying very hard to come up with a BeetleJuice musical reference
clear kestrel
Which hole?
austere hinge
There's a hole you can speak into a bit away from the ||Mycanoid camp||
clear kestrel
The one that's kinda honeycombed?
austere hinge
It's next to a big glowy tree and you can shout down it and they go like "Alright you better start running!"
sly flare
The games full of so much stuff, I fully missed that
sly flare
I think it's left a mystery based on some searching
clear kestrel
Yeah that one is news to me
safe jungle
I found a new area I haven’t seen before in act 2
sly flare
YOLO and you should use that one life to attempt to kill every single god or possible god you can
sly flare
It's a weird area
I wonder if there a reason for all the ||innsmouthers (fish men)|| there
clear kestrel
Ah the fish area is a good one
safe jungle
The fish
austere hinge
I am speaking to them
I never have it turned off
they pretty much tell me to leave them alone, and to leave... and then I don't and they don't do nothin
soft tundra
you may or may not meet them later
clear kestrel
Oh wait I was thinking of the underdark ones
austere hinge
Yeah I'm in the underdark doing this
grave prism
My Way of the Ascendant Dragon Monk is going to have a lot of fun in the middle parts of the game
safe jungle
Are you gonna punch people
grave prism
I chose crystal as her dragon type so she does radiant damage :)
Also she's an Aasimar so she's hella divine
Going to deliver some holy spirit
austere hinge
I hadn't had a long rest in a while so literally so much shit happened all in one downtime
and then I had nothing but alcohol for dinner
grave prism
Yeah
grave prism
and then I had nothing but alcohol for dinner
Incredible
I think my party missed some stuff cause we were extremely frugal with long rests for the whole game
Especially in act 1
Impending doom by ceremorphosis and all that
austere hinge
Wyll had his little punishment game (I called them an idiot), Gale told me about their past (I called them an idiot), and Astarian asked me to describe him (I called him an idiot)
grave prism
Dipshit status
austere hinge
Wyll likes me a lot, Gale needs to stop thinking that snarkism is how people talk to one another, and I refused to flirt with Astarian... which he liked
Oh and SH had a moment revealing their who religion
I also called her an idiot
grave prism
Based
austere hinge
I did reassure her that I pretty much didn't care who her goddess is
I don't use her anyway
My party is me, a bard, Lae'zel, Wyll and Karlach
All the problematic people aren't in the party! Gale eats magical items and I don't use him, Shadowheart... look I'm trying to date Lae'zel so I'm not including her, and Astarian eats my neck and I don't use him.
soft tundra
Gale will still need those items in camp, alas
austere hinge
yeaaaah
simple spire
Fortunately a lot of the stuff you can give him is vendor trash
soft tundra
and you only need to do it 3 times
austere hinge
I have been buying some things specifically to feed him
severe robin
and you only need to do it 3 times
2 times
simple spire
4 times! /j
austere hinge
At least I found a cool sword for blade warlocks to give to Wyll, plus he can have a shield
severe robin
I've only eaten two magic items in my current playthrough that I started like, 2 weeks ago though
soft tundra
If you leave Act 1 that also fixes it, but there are 3 times Gale needs to eat an item in Act 1
severe robin
And then had like, 3 long rests and not needed to eat anything more
Is the third at a specific time?
Because even in other playthroughs I've only ever needed to feed him twice and I've been pretty thorough
soft tundra
I am not fully aware of the specific triggers, I just know it happens 3 times throughout unless you end Act 1 fast enough
He eats the first, the second he complains a bit that it didnt feel right, and the third he says its not working at all
austere hinge
Yeah it's... being interesting. Ah well! Stay in camp Gale, try not to blow us up
soft tundra
he's a smart guy itll be fine
safe jungle
I spent few hours programming my projection to include contingency on what to do when people complain about my contingencies
I like how you can tell a wizard’s aptitude from their projections
Lorrokoan’s projection can only accept single word commands
Rolan’s projection can understand and respond to everyday speech
Gale’s projection can respond to off the cuffs commentary about Gale’s paranoia
And Elminister’s projection is basically Elminster
severe robin
Elminster's projection?
safe jungle
Yeah
You don’t think elminster is gonna debase himself by actually appearing in the sword coast right
severe robin
That's a Simulacrum not a projection
safe jungle
What level do you have to reach to be an archmage
soft tundra
the 5e npc Archmage is an 18th level spellcaster, but the title is just a title
severe robin
Like, Lorrokoan's called an archmage isn't he?
soft tundra
yeah and that guys basically a cryptobro scam artist
safe jungle
He still got enough magic power to summon multiple elementals though I guess
austere hinge
Much like being a doctor, sometimes the wheels of admin are greased by money
safe jungle
Unless he purely uses scripts and magic items
austere hinge
I also just discovered the society of brilliance in the underdark
safe jungle
What you can’t do with sufficient enchantments
severe robin
He's level like, eleven or twelve isn't he?
austere hinge
I'm thinking about ||doing drugs with a squid face||
safe jungle
I guess I’m wondering what level Gale was before the whole orb thing
severe robin
I'm thinking about ||doing drugs with a squid face||
What's the worst that could happen?
soft tundra
Like most of the party, probably pretty strong; Gale also seems to have had a nice array of magic items he was forced to munch on
austere hinge
Honestly I would happily trade Gale for any member of the Society of Brilliance
safe jungle
One of them literally eats brains
severe robin
He's working on it
safe jungle
Humane, cloned brain when
severe robin
Humane, cloned brain when
When he figures out what's missing from his current prototypes
austere hinge
Astarian gets the blood he gets the brains
austere hinge
Really though I wouldn't mind it
The dude has magical potential too
I can imagine he'd be an alchemist artificer
concoctions and some mild spellwork
safe jungle
I like how one possible ending for Redeemed Durge is to ||spend the next few months being cooed at by all the scholars and historians at the new amazing precedent||
signal tendon
Tbh Astarion is probably alongside Shadowheart as the parties lowest level character before the tadpoles
I’d put them both at like… level 5 or 6 maximum
safe jungle
I mean, Lae’zel also doesn’t seem particularly well accomplished at start
signal tendon
True!
safe jungle
She sounds like she was a grunt
Certainly wasn’t a knight
Karlach was Zariel’s pet but must’ve been pretty strong to survive literal hell
safe jungle
And Wyll must’ve been extremely potent to track her through hell
signal tendon
Karlach and Wyll I’d both put at like…. Idk, 12ish
safe jungle
Yeah
signal tendon
Gale was like, genuinely a level 20 character
soft tundra
Astarion isn't high leveld but being vamped up gives him more to work with
neon junco
What level do you have to reach to be an archmage
Depends on the edition
For the first time archmage was a class
1e and 2e had him as a wizard or just magic user
Gale, laezel, Wyll, and karlach being high level powerful characters brought down to level 1
soft tundra
tadpole drugs are killer
neon junco
Arguably Durge Tav is also part of that creq
Hello my character is ||bhaalspawn||
Has countless murders under their belt
safe jungle
||Bhallspawn and also the leader of the cult of Bhaal||
And de facto leader of the ||alliance between the dead three cult||
soft tundra
theres some dispute on that, depending on who you believe, but it is neat
austere hinge
As a non-durge Bard Tav I'm not sure what level Pabby would have been
safe jungle
Pabby?
austere hinge
Low-level but good fucking god he's survived a lot of near death stuff
Pabby is the name of my Tav
safe jungle
Tav is a detective investigating the durge I think
austere hinge
Pabrimgolin Hogg, bard and Harry Dubois look alike
#1162686499465220146 message
see
austere hinge
Ohhhhh I should try and play music around the mycanoids
I wonder how they'd like it
safe jungle
Fail a performance check and they consider it a declaration of war
austere hinge
It would be interesting to see!
Also Pabby is a halfling so he's a real short arse compared to everyone else
It's hilarious to have him in full view of the camera and in the background all I see are people's crotches and chests
The only short arse in the party
safe jungle
We need more dwarven companion representation
safe jungle
Kobold companion
signal tendon
been thinking about
The Emperor
and how ||in a cast of morally ambigeous characters he's pretty much just like.... actually evil||
grave prism
||The Emperor is an evil dickbag and killing the absolute shit out of him was extremely satisfying||
safe jungle
he's an ||actually insidiously manipulative bastarrd in a cast of mostly either card carrying villains or lliteral devils pm the side of evil||
gaslight, gatekeep, probably not girlboss
grave prism
he's an ||actually insidiously manipulative bastarrd in a cast of mostly either ...
||he goes mask off unfathomably quickly as soon as you don't give him the netherstones||
||immediately joins the side of ultimate evil if you don't give him the unlimited power||
safe jungle
well, if you ||decide to free orpheus anyways||
grave prism
||we did cause Orpheus is a fucking bro||
safe jungle
which I think he has reasonable concerns about self-preservation for tbf
severe robin
It's a real shame ||someone has to turn into a Mind Flayer if you choose to do so||
grave prism
||Emperor made him sound like a psychotic lunatic who would just murder everybody but Orpheus is unironically one of my favourite characters in the game||
||Orpheus was super chill the entire time we were with him and even said he would like, super honor us for the efforts we made and the sacrifice of our party member who became an Illithid||
severe robin
||Emperor made him sound like a psychotic lunatic who would just murder everybod...
In the Emperor's defense, ||Orpheus tells you to your face that he would kill everyone here if the biggest Illithid that ever existed wasn't kicking down the door||
safe jungle
Orpheus also does tell you to your face you should've just accepted being killed by his men
grave prism
In the Emperor's defense, ||Orpheus *tells you to your face* that he would kill ...
||Yeah but the Emperor still immediately sides with the super mega evil genocide brain as soon as you don't give him the unlimited power if Orpheus is free so he's still a huge dickbag||
grave prism
Orpheus also does tell you to your face you should've just accepted being killed...
||i still like him more than the Emperor, he was super chill even with wanting to murder us all, and he was extremely respectful about the sacrifice our party member made||
safe jungle
which is|| "What's going to maximize my odds of survival"||
grave prism
||AND he let us live after we defeated the Netherbrain!||
safe jungle
which I think is why he joined the ||Big bad illithid||
grave prism
||that is pretty great||
safe jungle
he decides there and there that ||there is absolutely no chance in hell you party of idiots are gonna win against Netherbrain||
grave prism
||he didn't even kill our party member who became an Illithid! She ended up doing suicide but still||
safe jungle
so he decides to join the winning side even if it means he's gonna be a slave
grave prism
he decides there and there that ||there is absolutely no chance in hell you part...
||which ofc is a massive L take cause we fucking trounced him and the brain||
severe robin
so he decides to join the winning side even if it means he's gonna be a slave
He thinks he can slip the shackles again, I think
grave prism
||our Paladin could do like 600 damage in a turn, idk what his ass was thinking||
safe jungle
I just hit him with Rolan's magical artillery
I think that gave him a lot to think about
grave prism
trueeee
safe jungle
btw ||What the heck are the Dream guardians||
||Why do they show up to defend the Netherbrain||
||Why are they humanoid||
||Why are they stored inside the Netherbrain||
soft tundra
and how ||in a cast of morally ambigeous characters he's pretty much just like.....
There's a lot about him that's very, very neat, especially ||since you can piece together his slide into that level of evil since he very much so did not start that way, how he justifies it, and how its less Big Evil and more selfish which is worse in a game ultimately about bonds and trust||
signal tendon
Oh absolutely yeah
soft tundra
btw ||What the heck are the Dream guardians||
||Those are you and your party's Dream Guardians, the ones you made in Char Creation, aka Your Tadpole's Fake Self||
soft tundra
Because the netherbrain has godlike power now
reality is malleable
its literally oozing up the city just by existing near it
safe jungle
well maybe the Upper City just naturally has ooze
soft tundra
that could be true
safe jungle
everything I hear about the Upper City reinforces that narrative
signal tendon
||even the 3 holders of the stones are motivated by the people and things that they care about||
soft tundra
yeah!! emily you get me
severe robin
||even the 3 holders of the stones are motivated by the people and things that t...
||They are?||
signal tendon
||and the emperor is just…. Pure survival. Genuinely doesn’t care about anything but staying alive and staying ‘free’||
severe robin
||I get Ketheric, but Gortash and especially Orin seem to just be... Ruling and Murder?||
safe jungle
Orin is doing what she does to ||impress her father/grandfather||
soft tundra
||Ketheric is motivated by family / his loss of his family, Gortash is motivated for himself but also to get back at his family and does have people he cares about via his letters / does seem to think he can Help Baldurs Gate, Orin REALLY wants daddy's approval||
severe robin
Oh right, she is
signal tendon
||Ketheric is motivated by his love for his family, corrupt as it may be. Orin is as well, she seems to be doing it all to make daddy proud. And Gortash seems to legitimately believe he’s going to be better in power than the existing system||
safe jungle
yeah
soft tundra
Gortash is """ideal lawful evil"""
safe jungle
Gortash legitimately actually believes he's for the best
and also he wants to get back at his parents etc
but what about ||Cazador||
soft tundra
He's just another part of a cycle of abuse
safe jungle
how did Cazador become a full vampire again
soft tundra
||His master vamp was cruel beyond belief to craft him into the vamp he is, and he does the same to his spawn||
safe jungle
a vampire has to ||let a spawn bite him but I doubt Cazador's sire was someone who would.... let Cazador do that.||
soft tundra
you can talk to his master's skull
safe jungle
ah
soft tundra
||one of the most notable things you learn is that Vellioth impaled Cazador on a spike for 10 years and just left him there as punishment. 10 years! Alive as a spawn! ||
signal tendon
Yeah seems right
safe jungle
Shar worship is kinda an oxymoron now that I think about it
If the doctrine is to abandon people and not to care about others why don't they abandon Shar
severe robin
Because Shar gives them cool magic
safe jungle
yeah but abandoning Shar must be the greatest act of worship you can do for Shar
no wonder then that a lot of devoted Sharrans are abandoned as faithless
By being 'devoted' to Shar, you are, in effect, not following her doctrine
severe robin
Peak BG3 is when you make your dream guardian the goofiest looking motherfucker, forget that you did that, and get jumpscared by them in your sleep
@limber shore @random ore
limber shore
dream jonkler
safe jungle
Fucking hell
grave prism
Lmao
severe robin
rich plover
...everybody sees the host's guardian in multiplayer, right? I think we're right before the point where we meet them, I could totally do a clown jumpscare
grave prism
...everybody sees the host's guardian in multiplayer, right? I think we're _righ...
If you are playing with multiple people, each of them will see their own guardian in relevant cutscenes
severe robin
Nah, you make your own guardian and everyone has their own private cutscene
clear kestrel
It's a real shame ||someone has to turn into a Mind Flayer if you choose to do s...
Unless you ||use gale||
Also gonna say I again I love the sorta meta level for the dream guardian
||You make them so folks will make something they like the look of, maybe even thinking they can romance, but that's part of The Emperor manipulation||
||It's shaped in the image your mind created to be the most convincing to you||
rich plover
If you are playing with multiple people, each of them will see their own guardia...
Damn, I thought someone mentioned it using the host's for some reason. Oh well
zealous shale
Another thing about the Emperor. ||For someone who claims to be helping free you from your tadpole, he sure does encourage you to go full mind player pretty often||
clear kestrel
Yup he ||doesn't see the tadpoles as a bad thing at all||
zealous shale
||Its very clear he would prefer you as a mind flayer, he just says hes trying to help cure you to get you to trust him||
||he just loves it when you munch on the forbidden gummy worms||
simple spire
I think it's really funny how if you actually do ||physically eat the astral tadpole, he gets exasperated and confused||
||Emperor: "You must absorb the tadpole to gain its pow--"||
||Tav: "Down the hatch!"||
||Emperor: "wtf"||
zealous shale
||"um, I guess that works"||
soft tundra
What are you playing?
dusky bear
cleric
soft tundra
The good news is you can respec a lot in the game, so don't feel locked in
What difficulty?
dusky bear
tactician
soft tundra
Wisdom at 16 or 17 is good; 14 Dex and 14 Con will also get you pretty far, and the rest into Strength and Charisma will be fine.
if you're playing a Cleric that has Heavy Armor access, once you get a set, you can respecc to lose some Dex
dusky bear
soft tundra
I hope you have a lot of fun!!
This thread is full of helpful people, feel free to ask anything you need.
dusky bear
will do! thanks
soft tundra
my biggest advice is that the left alt key is your best friend
its the See All Items/Loot button
itll help you spot a lot on the map you might miss
neon junco
Oooo skully is getting into BG3?
dusky bear
my friend gave me a copy of the game 
dusky bear
twilight domain for cleric 
frigid oxide
I wonder if anyone's made the bladesinger or ancestral guardian work
grave prism
gods i wish i could experience Raphaels Final Act again for the first time