#Baldur's Gate 3

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winged vapor
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It’s honestly a bit too strong, plus you know about the ring that gives you advantage on all attacks but disadvantages on saves?

deft crypt
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ye

winged vapor
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So it’s very nice as well combo

storm sinew
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Oh man, I just now learned what happens to Wyll if you kill Karlach upon meeting her

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This game, man

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AND you can loophole around it lmao

storm sinew
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So he ||doesn't turn into a Devil, and instead gets the Infernal Robe, which is +1 to AC, Resistance to Fire, and automatically damages melee attackers with fire.||

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He actually gets a reward.

gaunt jackal
winged vapor
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Yeah it’s actually very strong

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The loophole was closed iirc

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Or not yet ?

simple spire
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What's the loophole?

storm sinew
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If you kill her without triggering her cutscene, and then get the reward from Mizora, and then go back and resurrect her from outside of cutscene range, you can(according to this that I'm reading, idk if it still works) get them both AND the reward

simple spire
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Ah

frigid oxide
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I think they did close that

storm sinew
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also it is so wild to me how many characters and plotlines you can end with just

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telling them to (tw: sui) ||kill themselves||

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Like so far I can count ||The crazy doctor, the gnoll, and the devil guy||

winged vapor
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So far enjoying the stealthy build, dipping in and out of a fog cloud is disgusting lol

grave prism
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ok finally picked a god to pray to at the absolute final part of the game

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Kharalathri Khemmeri is now a "devout" of Talos the Storm Lord

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(act 3 spoilers)to the ||elder brain||

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||"this is very generous storytelling, i do not remember being able to swim" - My friend upon seeing our boat get blasted||

clear kestrel
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Yeah its kinda funny how ||shadow heart explicitly can't swim unless you go skinny dipping with her but then she swims when the boat is destroyed||

pearl sky
storm sinew
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god

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Lae'zel just keeps missing 80%+ attacks

white sleet
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those aren't misses, they're, uh

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tactical proximity strikes

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it is psychological warfare in honor of great vlaakith

rich plover
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the gith intentionally trained her wrong, as a joke

storm sinew
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man I'm out here trying to save Minthara but every roll above 80% is just missing

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bitch let me knock you out

neon junco
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At least it's not shart's sacred flame

storm sinew
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The curse has passed to Astarion

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two 70/80% sneak attacks on targets with less than 10 HP

dawn terrace
neon junco
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Act 1 is the worst for dex saves with goblins and everything nimble

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Act 2 fireball becomes godly since everything is undead and has no dex basically

winged vapor
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Spirit guardians god tier in act 2 lol

charred niche
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It almost feels like Shadowheart should arrive later into act 1 with how much she cleans up act 2

neon junco
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We wouldn't have gotten shadowheart trapped in the playplace then

pearl sky
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love this guy so much

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peak kobold philosophy

sly flare
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Getting really heated in an argument with somone and just yelling "Literally have a treato, go have a treato"

neon junco
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You're not yourself when you don't have a treato

severe robin
safe jungle
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Huh

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I kinda wonder based on the words Withers used during act 3 ||when he resurrects the Durge after defying bhall, if he made Durge immortal||

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||”I invest a portion of my power in thee. Death will not claim you whilst i endure.||

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That’s gonna be a weird surprise down the line if it works like that

frigid oxide
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That would be neat

safe jungle
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I guess it’s kinda like undying warlocks

frigid oxide
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A GM I had once gave me a respawn mechanic for playing one of those and it was funny

safe jungle
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Except your patron|| is a primordial death god|| so actually more like a cleric

clear kestrel
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I remember first game of 5e I played I resurrected another player by accident

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My dumb ass goliath had found a magic orb but didn't know what it did, kept trying it out in various situations to no avail

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Until I tried it on a dead guy

frigid oxide
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Turns out when you can come back from being 0HP'd in 24 hours it does not actually make the game a no challenge scenario

clear kestrel
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Who happened to be a player who just died

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Withers deff puts something in the camp supplies

severe robin
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Then you're not just trying to kill them, you're trying to stop them from going something that you won't be able to undo

frigid oxide
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Yeah that was part of it

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It did let me do funny things though

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"The door could be trapped"
"Are we in a hurry?"

wise mango
# safe jungle I kinda wonder based on the words Withers used during act 3 ||when he resurrects...

||I always read it as such, You trade your legacy of blood and inheritance of destruction for Jergal's blessing and a second chance at a real life. From the chosen of Bhaal to the Champion Of Jergal simply because he thinks what you did was fucking dope... It doesn't hurt that in doing so he would also gain an immortal hero at his beck and call with all the innate skills and instincts of a Bhaalspawn with the inclination to fight for what's right... As we can see with his choice of bard for our ending party Jergal is very partial to using those he saves to do favours for him, and at the end of BG3, your Durge is certainly someone who it is most useful to have owe you their life, personally mine was akin to a small army, Baldurans Helm and Giantslayer and Helldusk Armour plus other goodies meant that Samantha Smitesalot would make one fucking hell of a chosen, much better than others Jergal could've chosen||

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wow that got out of hand

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I probably should've tried to cut that down, sorry

safe jungle
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honestly who could be a better Chosen ||than the person who merced three other chosens||

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he also seems to have a specific design for Tav/Durge

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something that he needs them to do

severe robin
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Minor Wyll/Act 3 Spoilers

neon junco
safe jungle
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Which was oddly sweet

safe jungle
sonic pollen
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Started a Durge run
||I've already cut off Gale's hand and gotten a child killed||

wise mango
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damn

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efficient

sonic pollen
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||at least the child wasn't killed by me directly... i just convinced the child to make a decision that would get them killed||

deft crypt
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that would not hold up in a court of law

sonic pollen
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why is everyone so chill with me admitting a constant burning desire to kill

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Alfira's here!

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oh

wise mango
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yeah

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||Enjoy the best cape in the game! It comes with eternal guilt sown into the fabric don't worry!||

wise mango
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your job involves killing most everything that moves

sonic pollen
wise mango
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sorry

sonic pollen
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||eh, i don't need a cape to be fancy - i'm a bard||

deft crypt
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i read fancy as fruity

sly flare
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Some Wizard called Eliminster has shown up at my camp and is being a prick

gaunt jackal
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"some wizard"

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Welcome to Ed Greenwood's pseudo self-insert

sly flare
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He turned ||Gale into a bomb and took a long while to get to the point||

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Spoilers for act 2 I think (or at least the second area?): ||Also came across a Town in the Shadowlands and the game was like "show them the relic or fight", so I decided to fight and then run away because why in god's name would I show a complete stranger the relic.||

gaunt jackal
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||He was already a bomb - Elminister suppresses it and lets him activate the ability at will||

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||For the Reasons Stated By Him||

wise mango
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and yes that's all Act 2 content

simple spire
winged vapor
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If I’m going stealth archer what’s your optimal build at level 12? I’m thinking bard 6 gloom 3 and rogue 3

simple spire
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That seems solid

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Personally I prefer Hunter to Gloomstalker for builds that get a lot of attacks

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Gloomstalker is good for alpha-striking but I feel Hunter’s damage outpaces it pretty quickly in a fight

winged vapor
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I also liked the initiative boost

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Though I can’t pick between assassin and thief

simple spire
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Thief is just in a league of its own

winged vapor
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The thing is, if you attack from outside combat into combat, and you trigger combat, you loose the ability to do extra attack

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Without assassin

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And on top you can sneak attack again right away

sly flare
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Thief gives you a lot more versatility

simple spire
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And there are also just lots of fights, including lots of boss and miniboss fights, where assassin is unusable

sly flare
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I don't know if Bard gets many bonus action spells, but if they do then Thief is even better

because you can do stuff like Misty step into hide before attacking, which lets you get lots of different places

neon junco
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Broken record but hand crossbow offhand is bonus action

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With sharpshooter it's wild

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Hand crossbow gives you 2 extra attacks with your bonus actions with thief

white sleet
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Hm. Thief/berserker…

winged vapor
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I tried it

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Very cool

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I guess I also like the bow options over hand crossbow

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Like the titan string

simple spire
# white sleet Hm. Thief/berserker…

The trouble with that is that the penalties add up fast. For something more defensive and very mobile, I strongly endorse Thief/Wildheart w/Bear Heart and Stallion Aspect

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Cunning Action Dash has a ton of synergy with Stallion Aspect

white sleet
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simply roll 20s forever

simple spire
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And in general dashing around is gonna help you sustain your rage

neon junco
simple spire
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I have Lae'zel specced for that Wildheart build and it's quite strong

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Gonna end up doing either Wildheart 6/Thief 4/Fighter 2 or Wildheart 6/Thief 3/Battlemaster 3

safe jungle
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Karlach berserker with cunning dash is a superior class

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It was hilarious using her to cover ground across the map to reach the back line

neon junco
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Berserker with boots of speed acheives almost the same thing

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Casual 90 feet of movement with standard+bonus action

safe jungle
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True

simple spire
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Either way, barbarians really want to move fast

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Because ending your rage just because you couldn't reach the opponent sucks

neon junco
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Early on I grab spears and javelins to throw

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in case I can't reach

simple spire
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I mean actually if you want to do Berserker/Thief throwzerker is probably optimal

neon junco
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Oh I meant just to prevent rage from ending, but yes throwbarian is very good with you guessed it, tavern brawler

simple spire
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Just do Berserker 8/Thief 4, grab all the items that increase throwing damage, get a million bonus action throws

neon junco
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And the spear of returning

simple spire
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I don't think bonus action throws tick up your berserker penalty?

neon junco
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It should

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But i've never noticed, reckless is good

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I know frenzied throw prones enemies so that's fun

safe jungle
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Huh

winged vapor
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Don’t forget there is a glaive that has finesse

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So you can sneak attack and use great weapon master with it

sly flare
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Glaive also applies for polearm master

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which lets you get bonus action attacks with it

winged vapor
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Hmm does my stealth archer even need ranger

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The bonus action hide is huge

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But I get it from rogue

soft tundra
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the reason to use ranger for archery is for hunter volley, imo

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so if you dont plan on using that you can probs fit in something else

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like battlemaster fighter

simple spire
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Ranged fighting style is pretty great too

storm sinew
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is Divinity also a D&D game? Or is it its own thing? Curious if Larian's other games are worth picking up.

clear kestrel
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It's own thing

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I'd recommend Divinity Origonal Sin 2

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You do not need to have played any previous games in the series

sly flare
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Divinity is its own thing and very good

winged vapor
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Can you twin eldritch blast

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?

storm sinew
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As in cast two at a time? Yeah, you get that after a point

winged vapor
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Nah multiclass take it on a sorc with meta magic

simple spire
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You cannot twin it

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You can quicken it tho

winged vapor
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Thanks

simple spire
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Sorc 7/Warlock 5 or so has some wild synergy for this reason and others

deft crypt
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ahh good old coffeelock

winged vapor
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Is quicken eldritch blast that good ?

simple spire
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It is once you start doing bullshit to stack extra damage on every single blast

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Dragon Sorc enables some of said bullshit

deft crypt
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multiple blasts each adding +cha damage

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at long range

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that push

winged vapor
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Too bad I can’t get the best robes for that on my urge run

winged vapor
deft crypt
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sorc can change damage types i believe

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with a meta magic

winged vapor
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Not in bg3

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Iirc

deft crypt
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shows how much i know

simple spire
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You know how Dragon Sorc can add +Cha damage to spells of a certain element? There’s a staff that lets you get lightning charges when you cast spells, and those lightning charges then count for that bonus damage.

winged vapor
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DO THEY?

storm sinew
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That's kinda nuts

simple spire
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Last I checked, yes

winged vapor
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I’ll check after work

deft crypt
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and dragon sorc gives a bit of free cheeky ac

safe jungle
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Huh

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So dragon sorc can get double charisma modifier

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On their eldritch blast?

simple spire
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There’s a fair bit of itemization that gives you damage increases of one kind or another

deft crypt
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specifically only the ones that get lightning bonus if gk is right

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and a lot of them go off sources of damage

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aiui

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and each eldritch blast is a damage source

simple spire
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Sorc also gives you some low-level slots to spend on Hex, just a lot of little things.

deft crypt
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also since warlock slots reset on short if you need to do spell point nonsense

simple spire
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Yep

winged vapor
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If I’m not taking the robes for cha on cantrips what other armour should I grab?

safe jungle
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There’s a hat that gives you +2 charisma sold at sorcerous sun dries I believe

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||Gortash’s gloves|| from act 3

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For increasing spell save forced on enemies

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And then I got myself long jump boots for mobility

winged vapor
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What about armour proper ?

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I’m thinking maybe I’ll be a gith and grab medium. ?

safe jungle
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I thought you were wearing robes

simple spire
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Robes and armor occupy the same slot

winged vapor
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Sorry I meant not

simple spire
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Oh okay

winged vapor
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Mobile auto correct lol

safe jungle
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Hmm

sly flare
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Death Sheperds are very scary

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Especially when there's multiple, I can't imagine fighting 3 or more of them

safe jungle
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Huh

sly flare
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They can revive undead and are undead themselves

soft tundra
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The duo fight with the ghouls in the mountain pass is fuckin brutal on honour cuz of that

sly flare
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in the normal mode they revive them with 50% HP, in Tactics or above it's full health

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And an ability like that should really be like known to you. But the games examine option of them doesnt tell you

severe robin
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As a bonus action

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An unlimited number of times

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First time I fought them I was like "Oh damn they can rezz eachother, okay, I'll just waste the ghouls so they spend all their charges on them. Anytime now. That ability uses like, a spell slot, right? Right?"

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(It does not use "like, a spell slot")

safe jungle
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I just kept throwing the little guy sat them and it kept knocking them prone

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Oh and putting shadowheart with solar mace next to them

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I think they can’t rez things when they are blind

soft tundra
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You have to get the mace first haha, which is even more difficult

severe robin
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Is it?

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If it's your first playthrough and you're not using a guide, yes

soft tundra
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Those gith are fucking brutal on tact/honour

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esp honour, with the new boss abilities

severe robin
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I should do a tact/honour playthrough...

sly flare
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I'm playing on Tactic, I think if I was playing on the normal difficulty I'd be having a lot less fun

soft tundra
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Tactician makes you so aware of pits and ledges lmao

severe robin
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Although

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I found Balanced to be pleasantly challenging, on my first run through

sly flare
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Spoilers for Act 2: ||"I think a real god could kill who ever she wanted" and then she did. Guess she's a real god||

severe robin
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||Except not really, because she can't kill the person she wants.||

soft tundra
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lmaoooo ||thats my favorite game over||

safe jungle
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Me: ||“hah, stupid Gith, that’s a ninth level spell, not a divine spell, you can’t foo—“||

sly flare
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||Me: I don't want to kill you, but I'd like to know more about why this god dedicated to killing mind flayers wants you dead||
||Dream Guardian: YOU HAVE TO KILL ME, I will refuse to elaborate on myself or give any evidence to my claims. I will only let you either kill me or piss off a god. No inbetween.||

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||"You're fear of Vaakleth consumes you!" of you mean the person who can literally just kill me whenever she wants? Uh yeah I fear her.||

simple spire
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||You actually don’t have to try to kill them. You don’t even have to enter the prism.||

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||Vlaakith cannot, in fact, just will you dead whenever||

sly flare
winged vapor
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Sadness, looks like adding lighting charges to your spell doesn’t make it count for lighting damage

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So no sorc eldritch blast madness

simple spire
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Awwww

winged vapor
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Yeah

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Sad

storm sinew
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Me, to my companions who cannot stand the thought of NOT walking into the fire/fumes: "Y'all can't be trusted with free will. Ungrouped."

sly flare
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Somtimes you've just gotta go into turn based for microing

winged vapor
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Gosh abjuration wizard with Armour of Agathysis top tier comedy

austere hinge
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So I've been going around the Goblin camp

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(I realized that I'd gone off on a weird position before and now I'm at the gpblin camp)

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And it feels... weird?

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I'm just walking around talking to goblins

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half the time they're being assholes but less than like the druids or anything

severe robin
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Less assholes to you specifically or everyone else

austere hinge
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Sure they're cooking a dude, it just feels kinda... okay so they're cooking a dwarf, but I can't help but feel like they had to put cannibalism in the middle of the place to make it feel like a bad place

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The druids were willing to kill a child because she went to steal an idol

severe robin
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The goblins are willing to kill multiple children because it's funny

austere hinge
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The goblins are assholes and terrible for attacking people, but the adventurers that they killed are thieves or killed goblins on the way in themselves.

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I haven't come across dead kids so far to be fair

severe robin
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They are actively trying to kill multiple children, in fact

austere hinge
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I have not come across that to be fair

severe robin
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Because their god told them too

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What do you think they plan on doing in the Grove?

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Letting everyone walk away with an "oh sorry didn't mean to bother you"?

austere hinge
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Like, they suck, I know they suck, they raid and kill places, but literally so has everyone else I've met

severe robin
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Er, sorry if I'm coming across too strong

neon junco
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Well when they want to raid and kill the Grove they mean everyone

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I don't believe you don't have to fight any children but it happens in a cutscene

charred niche
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(( The Goblins are roasting a dwarf on a spit ) )

neon junco
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Druids are not great though either

severe robin
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The druids are assholes, yeah

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Kagha's the worst, but everyone else is just going along with what she says so they're not any better

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Halsin's good, and uh, Raith?

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The one who's arguing with Kagha when you meet her

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But the Tieflings didn't do anything wrong

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They got kicked out of their home because of racism and are just trying to make it somewhere safe

neon junco
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If you talk to the druids half of them agree with kagha and the other half don't so it's a divided camp with no leader defaulting to kagha

austere hinge
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I mean I found goblin kids kicking an adventurer's corpse because the adventurer had killed their parents. I'm not siding with the goblins but it just feels odd to be walking through their camp all fine knowing I'm going to have to probably kill them all.

neon junco
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That's true

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I guess they need a way for you to do the evil side

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Cause larian loves giving you the option to be the worst person ever

clear kestrel
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They are also torturing that gnome

austere hinge
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gnome? I found a dude being tortured who I set free.

clear kestrel
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The one on the windmill?

austere hinge
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I guess it just feels weird that I can walk around chatting with them and buying a bunch of cool shit

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Oh no that dude

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yeah

clear kestrel
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Oh well that's cos they think you're a true soul

austere hinge
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I freed him I meant "Liam"

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actually I kinda snuck in

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and then I just kinda wandered around chatting

clear kestrel
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Ah then you missed that scene, I did to first time

austere hinge
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I skipped the front

clear kestrel
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But basically, they got a vibe for your worm's vibe

storm sinew
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Man, it feels like they planned a route where you (Creche stuff) ||Convince the Kith'rak that the Inquisitor is fucked and turn them away from this mindless and brainless hunt.||

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but just... never implemented it

clear kestrel
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This your first time in the creche?

storm sinew
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Like, I get it, the artifact is important, but it's clearly something that the captain thinks could be handled better

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yes

clear kestrel
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Okay

storm sinew
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Also she randomly just... KNOWS that we have the artifact.

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We haven't mentioned it or shown it to anyone

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but she's like "I HEARD YOU HAVE IT"

simple spire
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Psychics I guess

clear kestrel
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I only ask about the creche cos SPOILERS ||Yeah Kith'rek Voss has their own thing going on seperate from the Inquisitor and most Gith||

storm sinew
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like, I can understand Vlaakith being an absolute dickhead with a single-minded drive to do a thing, that's cool. But christ almighty it's just annoying that all roads here seem to lead to combat

clear kestrel
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Yeah it is a little forced in the creche sadly

storm sinew
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esp because I made an effort to be buddy-buddy with Lae'zel

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and now she's like "WELL I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK"

clear kestrel
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She was lied to about.. a lot

neon junco
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Lae'zel and Shart were lied to a lot and both have religious trauma

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Similar backgrounds in a sense but very different characters

simple spire
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Lae’zel’s romance is legit great

storm sinew
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oh yeah Lae'zel herself makes sense

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I just wish I didn't have to ||slaughter her people|| for the githyanki story to continue

clear kestrel
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Fairs

winged vapor
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Put on non lethal

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And just knock everyone out

safe jungle
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Spell casters: “what’s non lethal mean”

austere hinge
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no spoilers I'm going after her

wise mango
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Durge Spoilers ||Anyone found a mod to make slayer form not suck ass?||

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||Cause this shit is good at one thing and that's killing my enjoyment of the game and any fun RP potential with it unless i go down to story mode||

soft tundra
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I didn't find it bad

neon junco
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Durge ||slayer form is quite nice in a vacuum but the issue is by the time you get it in act 3 you've got a whole slew of magic items that synergizes with your builds that make you way stronger than slayer form. In a default 5e campaign with minimal magic items then slayer form would be really good||

severe robin
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Y'know

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I find it kind of funny how if you are a druid, you're better off not using Speak With Animals

austere hinge
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oh?

severe robin
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Cause, when you don't have speak with animals up, it's an Animal Handling check

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Droods are good with those

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But if you do

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From my experience, the game replaces the Animal Handling with a Persuasion check

austere hinge
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Ahhhh yes
It helps me a lot as a Bard because I can intimidate or persuade them

neon junco
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Why would you intimidate animals

austere hinge
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BECAUSE THE FUCKIN SQUIRREL BIT ME

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The other option was kicking them so I just intimidated them into leaving me alone

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Then they gave me a hyena ear

safe jungle
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I have speak with animal on my warlock because she’s optimized for persuasion and charisma checks

austere hinge
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I hideous laughtered someone earlier and by god does it feel mean to slaughter the enemy while one of them laughs on the floor

severe robin
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But yeah I just find it amusing

austere hinge
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I wonder if you get a bonus if you animal handling first, then talk to them with the spell?

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Pet the frick outta the doggos

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and bears

neon junco
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I like to hideous laughter my companions cause I think their laughs are cute

austere hinge
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..... I should hideous laughter Lae'zel

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she'll kill me

neon junco
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Worth though

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Her laugh is great

storm sinew
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Man, I've been watching someone play this and they've come to a similar thought as me

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Anything that isn't directly dealing damage just doesn't FEEL good.

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Like, everything has a high-ass chance to save your CC effects unless they're area based

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it's basically never worth it to cast Hold Person

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or any direct, targeted CC

austere hinge
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Ehhhhh, maybe just cause I'm new to the game but I've found things that linger are useful

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Like sleep or hideous laughter

gaunt jackal
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Grease, too

austere hinge
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Oh and crown of madness is amazing for starting infighting

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Though I will admit it sucks to have save or nothing spells, Crown of Madness is a really strong spell

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I also found that since I'm a Lore Bard, cutting words really assists with these

gaunt jackal
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Yeah Cutting Words in BG3 is turbo dumb

austere hinge
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since it effectively ups my save by even more and all!

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As long as I have bardic inspiration to spend of course

gaunt jackal
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Being able to spend it on saves, and retroactively to boot, boosts its power level through the stratosphere

austere hinge
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yeeeees

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So honestly, if you're finding your hold persons and other such spells being kinda suck? Go lore bard.

gaunt jackal
#

Or even just have one in the party

#

Bards are amazing even outside of that

austere hinge
#

I know I am thank you ❤️

#

But yes, Bards are great

gaunt jackal
#

Lmao

austere hinge
#

I talk to everyone, I have mind reading and animal talking and talking with dead and friendship spells and even after all that I can blast people in the face and heal folk.

#

And I'm gonna learn some fricked up spells later on as well, cause I can learn secrets

winged vapor
#

Does anyone know if gear that improves crit range works while in animal form?

wise mango
#

a good way to check is to examine yourself

#

since it will be a passive effect on you on your stats sheet

winged vapor
#

Oh will it

#

I am silly

grave prism
#

Forgot to mention

#

At the end of our campaign we summoned Scratch :)

#

||Scratch the dog witnessed the death of the Netherbrain||

sonic pollen
#

My durge run continues.
||So far, I have: caused Karlach and Wyll to abandon me for murdering the Grove, killed Minthara after having sex (necrophilia has not been added to the schedule yet), killed Alfira, killed Shadowheart (not a Durge thing, just failed to calm her down during her fight with Lae'zel), and stabbed the Dream Guardian (also not a Durge thing. I just hate them)||

soft tundra
#

you woke up and chose violence!

sonic pollen
#

indeed

#

right now it's Me, Astarion, and Lae'zel running around doing hot people shit and committing several crimes

#

hopefully Minsc or Jaheira will be willing to play along with my murder vibes. not sure I want to go through the rest of the game without a full party

soft tundra
#

There's always the Withers Special

wise mango
#

you're worse than my durge ||At least I didn't murder minthara after that... Mostly because this will be my one and only time romancing her because being evil is honestly a bit boring||

#

||Also, I've come around on the slayer form, just only use Slay and the jump attack and it's actually decent||

winged vapor
#

Moon Druid seems like a fun urge ||run have the slayer form be your evil corrupting wild shape ||

sly flare
#

So is Lovitars love supposed to be perminent?

#

Because pretty much every other like blessing of its type goes away after a long rest

winged vapor
#

It is

neon junco
#

Sort of, last I checked it goes away if you are downed or die

#

Idk if that's a bug, or it's been patched since then

soft tundra
#

it has been patched since then

#

just like the eye buffs/demerits

#

they used to go away if you died but they're permanent

severe robin
#

Did the [End of Act Two Dungeon spoilers] ||Githzerai|| buff also get patched?

sly flare
#

For the time 25 Charisma was with me, it was wonderful. Very sad to see 25 charisma go

grave prism
#

my friend is currently going insane trying to get our mod setup done

wise mango
#

||Yo, bloodlust on the slayer form is zooted, I'm actually having a blast now that I'm just slaying||

#

||I'm still a bit sad it doesn't have any condition immunities. Like you're murder incarnate, but you can still be frightened or charmed by any petty spellcaster||

#

||doesn't really scream murder incarnate does it?||

winged vapor
#

Does it have any synergy with a class or it’s just something fun when violence is the answer ?

wise mango
#

just fun to go on little murder sprees with it active

#

you can chew through a lot of ghaff when it's up

winged vapor
#

That’s cool, I’m not super into my sneaky build

wise mango
storm sinew
#

Man, there's so many neat story beats in this game

safe jungle
#

Haha

storm sinew
#

that like

safe jungle
#

Murder ||incarnate and you still die like a chump to hold person||

wise mango
#

you do as well

storm sinew
#

I really feel for anyone who's going to try and do anything similar in their actual tabletop games because inevitably someone's gonna be like "THIS IS JUST LIKE BG3"

wise mango
#

||your mental saves are shite and they replace your actual mental stats||

storm sinew
#

RIP to anyone who wanted to use mind flayers

wise mango
#

||So you can't even stop it||

safe jungle
#

Yeah

safe jungle
#

I beat ||orin by just one cast of hold monster||

#

Take that father

wise mango
#

I spent so long sifting through character ideas and every damn time i came up with a workable one, it was a variation of either Wyll, Astarion or Minthara

storm sinew
#

also ran into a weird bug

#

I've just entered the shadow-cursed lands

#

and literally every particle effect is a black box that drives the screen wild

#

and then the game crashes

neon junco
#

The companions are a wide spectrum of characters, gonna be hard not to find something relatable in a OC

#

Well except bard

#

And monk type

safe jungle
#

What favor does ||the god of songs owe Withers|| in the epilogue

storm sinew
#

This is what the game looks like in the shadow-cursed lands for me

#

it was working just fine up until I got here

safe jungle
#

I love that when you meet alfira she’s surrounded by animals like she is a Disney Princess

#

But if you have speak with animals you can tell that they are dissing her music

wise mango
#

yeah it's a bit sad

#

you can teach her how to not be terrible IIRC?

safe jungle
#

If you are a bard, yeah

#

If you aren’t a bard she teaches herself while teaching you

#

That’s how my durge got her lute specialization

austere hinge
#

As a bard you can rap battle Volo in the goblin camp and get him sent to his cage

soft tundra
#

yeah, she's not bad as a bard, she's just in the middle of grieving

#

hard to play correctly through tears

storm sinew
#

god

#

rolls when you're good at something

#

feel nice

storm sinew
#

man, playing a warlock be like

#

why would I do anything but eldritch blast

#

shit's so good

sly flare
#

I love stabbing

#

Bladelock life we love stabbing

wise mango
#

you can also get extra extra attacks much faster

#

since thirsting blade stacks with extra attack

simple spire
#

Well, one level ahead, with multiclassing

#

But it is the only way to do three hits other than fighter 11

austere hinge
sly flare
#

"Mr Du Bois! I can assure you the absoulete is not a cult, we're simply very effective Union."

austere hinge
#

Wonder what class Harry would be

sly flare
#

Pathfidner second edition investigator

safe jungle
#

Monk

austere hinge
#

Or tavern brawler, since that is somehow the most powerful thing somehow

sly flare
#

As we all know, the ultimate tavern fighter is a fuckjing bear

wise mango
soft tundra
#

Fighter cooler :)

wise mango
#

counterpoint, my mom lets me throw people off of ledges without being at risk of having a mephit throw you off as well

soft tundra
#

I like plate armor and disarming people and being able to ignore rests

wise mango
#

fighters need rests too?

#

Action Surge and manouevre die are expendable and most people run fighters as melee fighter so you're either going to burn a hole in your wallet feeding them HP potions or drain other party members resources keeping them in tip top shape

#

or short rest

#

as for plate armour, nothing a one dip into war cleric can't fix

soft tundra
#

The benefit of rogues and fighters is you dont need rests to keep beating fuckers up

#

No spell slots no problem

#

But also i hate multiclassing so it benefits my style

simple spire
#

I mean also if you’re going for three attack pact of the blade you’re probably playing either Pallock or Fightlock

#

So you’re gonna have heavy armor, you’re gonna have additional damage tools, you’ll be doing fine even above and beyond the three attacks

sly flare
#

Like a warlock doesnt need spell slots to fuck people up but it helps

deft crypt
#

warlock has access to a cantrip that's often better than most levelled spells

simple spire
#

Something like Warlock 5/Fighter 2/Paladin 5 is almost strictly an upgrade over straight fighter

#

Not that battlemaster is bad

#

It’s slick

#

Could do Warlock 5/Battlemaster Fighter 5/Paladin 2 and get its best stuff

sly flare
#

Born to be poly forced to be mono Pensive

simple spire
#

The main highlight of going Warlock 5/Paladin 6 is aura of protection, conversely

soft tundra
#

Fighter 12 gets so many cool feats

sly flare
#

Just hit things with big eldritch blast

soft tundra
#

Also fun!

#

Thats why you get both a warlock and a fighter

#

Eldritch Blast is a great way to create happiness

simple spire
#

It sparks joy

winged vapor
#

I think my padlock with prerogative is the strongest build I’ve done

#

Maybe using the ring that let’s you cast with a bonus action would be better but I tried and didn’t feel like I needed it

sly flare
#

Act 2 spoilers: ||just did the moonrise tower top fight, I skipped the lower floor bceause that fight seems miserable. I was getting through the like general guy and then suddenly I didnt? I don't really feel like I got an explination for why my convincing suddenly stopped? idk maybe I'll get one in the Absoulete||

soft tundra
#

|| Was Aylin there ||

sly flare
#

||Yeah I guess he saw her and was like "No fuck redemption I want to die" then I got him to half health in a round and he pissed off||

severe robin
#

Oh

#

I know what happened there

#

||So, you were getting through to him, and then Aylin attacks and you can't stop her.||

soft tundra
#

Yeah, that

#

|| She has very good reasons to uh, not want to talk to him ||

sly flare
#

||She didnt actually attack though? She goes to attack and then h'es like "BOW TO ME blah blah blah"||

soft tundra
#

I mean

#

Are you going to wait for someone to hit you first

#

Also || she's his ticket to immortality, she shows back up so he's got his out again ||

sly flare
#

||If they're being actively told to stop yeah. And if Aylin doesnt respect his surrender, I'd prefer to fight her than him||

soft tundra
#

Damn lmao

severe robin
#

Damn

soft tundra
#

|| Should have just speared her LOL ||

severe robin
#

||He tortured her for like, a thousand years||

soft tundra
#

100! But thats still a forever

sly flare
#

||Yeah he's also really valuable for stopping the absoulete as he's one of their generals and is in charge of the big brain they've got. If he surrenders, he surrenders can help beat the absoulete and then we can put him in a torment nexus or something to make it up||

soft tundra
#

Youre gunna love act 3 (genuinely)

neon junco
#

Act 2 ending (||every time I talk to kethetic he just jumps into the pit)||

gaunt jackal
#

I straight up consider thirsting blade stacking with EA an exploit

sly flare
#

They ban it in honour but no where else, which is a little weird

gaunt jackal
#

Because people would whinge at them when it's been in the game so long and they haven't touched it

#

So they went for a compromise decision

#

Which, imo, worst of both worlds by far

#

Nothing else in the game works in that way

#

But yeah I consider it an exploit and wouldn't touch it in normal gameplay due to how it homogenizes builds

charred niche
#

Some of the balance changes are still wild to me

#

'Mage hand is too powerful to be anything other than a short rest'

sly flare
#

mage hand is really good, I never remember to use it

charred niche
#

No cantrip should need a rest mechanic imo

#

it's the whole point of them

gaunt jackal
#

Yeah, like

#

The way they've gone about it is so weird

sly flare
#

just design your dungeons to make Mage Hand less OP, rather than directly take Mage Hand out of the equation

gaunt jackal
#

It feels like a half measure

charred niche
#

I don't even know when it would be too gamebreaking, 99% of the time people can teleport or simply jump whatever distance

rich plover
#

are they trying to nerf its utility out of combat, or as a combat summon?

winged vapor
#

Most likely both

sly flare
#

What does it even do as a combat summon?

winged vapor
#

It can throw anything

#

So if you drop potions or bombs it can just toss them

sly flare
charred niche
#

no but nothing stops you from doing so and then taking a rest about it, it's just clunky and less immersive

#

and karlach hurling a gnome onto a ledge costs less than an action, idk

#

Like, at least let Arcane Tricksters always have one

sonic pollen
#

hot tf did you roll a -5

severe robin
#

Uh

#

Maybe spoiler that?

stray basalt
#

oh, sorry

#

Spoilers for A2: hmmmmmmmmm

wise mango
#

as an A-level maths student

#

this checks out

storm sinew
#

Man, astarion just made me tear up

#

That was surprising

neon junco
#

Like starting act 2 and especally act 3 he's really a indepth and tragic character

#

Which really I could say that about pretty much every character

storm sinew
#

like I'm romancing Minthara right now but next run might be Astarion's turn

#

well, next run will be Lae'zel

soft tundra
#

Astarion x redeem Durge was my favorite romance of all of them

sly flare
#

I like Lae'zel it's a shame you can only do one Romance per run, at least you don't get shamed or anything if you suggest being poly to other people

winged vapor
#

Funny ability I discovered the raven from the beast master ranger is actually super powerful

dawn valley
#

rate my crackhead druid

winged vapor
#

10/10 would eat mushrooms with lol

dawn valley
#

felt cute might turn into a squid later

silk dune
frigid oxide
storm sinew
neon junco
storm sinew
#

oh yeah I met that dude

dawn valley
neon junco
#

Fair he probably didn't pay taxes either

#

I usually kill him he's sort of fucked up

dawn valley
#

i kill him cause he comme from the shadowfell... and shadowfell creature are emo fairies (i hate fairies)

winged vapor
#

Hmm spore Druid or necro wizard for undead build ?

neon junco
#

If you want a lot of summons then spore druid

#

If you want a single summon that's tougher than necro

winged vapor
#

Hmm interesting

#

My main thing is the spore Druid has more support spells to make hitting easier for you summons at all levels

rich plover
#

wizard can sort of do that by making enemies suck more. someone who's prone from Grease or Ice Storm is easy pickings. (although getting zombies across those zones might be its own issue...)

winged vapor
#

Well I mostly choose the archers for that reason lol

#

Yeah I could just drop grease even at higher ll

#

Or ice storm

austere hinge
#

I continue on my way around the goblin camp. I poisoned a whole lot of them, found Halsin and talked to them about worries. I also met Minthara. Afraid I probably will have to kill her.

#

I also got Priestess Gut alone and crouched Karlach behind them and smote the fuck outta their skull for an instant kill...

#

Also Lae'zal has... ||weirdly turned around and has basically admitted they're DOWN BAD. Like she basically goes "I like your smell a lot"... and then when I went to sleep after that I got the scene where she threatens to kill me and everyone else because of possibly transforming and I met that champion person I designed||

clear kestrel
#

Yeah Lae'zal can be like that

#

||you're a imbecile, but you kill good, wanna fuck?||

austere hinge
#

I just found it hilarious it went from that to "I'm going to slit your throat, then everyone else, then myself"

soft tundra
#

She likes forceful, decisive actions in a leader.

sly flare
#

||There's nothing more attractive than a Woman who insults you and responds almost exclusively using violence||

soft tundra
#

Her main issue is People Fucking Around

austere hinge
#

Which is funny to me because I'm a halfling Bard I'm almost entirely fucking around

#

But also I try and have purpose

#

I also let Volo...
I let him. He did it. I had to confirm multiple times. Fuck.

#

I find it funnier that Lae'zel disapproves when I'm like "please, I'm trying to do anything to get this thing out"

clear kestrel
#

Tbf it's all positive

soft tundra
dawn terrace
safe jungle
#

I can’t believe he is the chosen of Mystra

#

Of all people

austere hinge
#

Why are you dreaming of stabbing people in the eye Volo?

#

Thing is I honestly probably would have agreed to have him do this even if I didn't know it gave me a cool bonus

soft tundra
#

he's amazing. Volo is my all time favorite Forgotten Realms guy

austere hinge
#

I just got done having myself beaten by a follower of Loviatar obviously I am clearly just here to make bad life choices about myself

#

Just being a general hero and friendly person to everyone else while basically going "oh yeah sure fuck me up" when given the chance to do horrific things to myself

safe jungle
#

Volo: “Did you see the dragon that attacked us?”

You: “yeah, it was a huge red dragon.”

Volo: “witnesses clearly mistook the color of the huge gold dragon.”

austere hinge
#

I keep having a bard off with them as well

safe jungle
#

Is Volo killable

severe robin
#

Yes

safe jungle
#

Does he die die or does he live anyways

storm sinew
#

I mean you can just, y'know, murder him. But there is something in Act 3 where he ||is tied to a bunch of explosives and you have the opportunity to save him or spur the mob on||

safe jungle
#

Apparently ||if you attack elimindter in act 2 it turns out it’s a level 1 construct he sent in his place lmao||

soft tundra
#

||Simulacra 😎 ||

#

its a good spell

safe jungle
#

Because heck if ||elminster’s gonna personally bother with mere magical nuke problem||

soft tundra
#

wizards are busy!!

safe jungle
#

Yeah

#

He’s got stuff to do

soft tundra
#

Gale would use one if he was still capable of casting it

#

but, yknow, he's got a Reason he cant

storm sinew
#

tadpole done sucked out his magic juice

severe robin
soft tundra
#

tadpole is a part of the problem, but his other issue is what really hurts

#

||not being able to properly use the Weave is a nightmare for a wizard||

storm sinew
#

yeah my understanding is that the tadpoles basically set everyone back to Level 1 from where they were in backstory

#

but Gale's extra hurt

safe jungle
#

Gale used to be an ||arch wizard yeah?||

soft tundra
#

Yeah

#

||so you have, say, Astarion, who is level 1 because he's been tortured and starved for 200 years and never trusted to do anything, then you have folk like Wyll who actively lost a lot of their juice from the tadpoles fucking with their magic, and then Gale pre-tadpole was already in a huge pile of trouble||

safe jungle
#

Beat ||Raphael fair and swuare|| in act 3

#

Legendary skill to ||break out of hold monster eh, too bad warlocks can cast four of those per short rest lmao||

#

just cast held monster on him every turn and then had Karlach wail on him

severe robin
#

Wild

#

I had the unfortunate luck of me him karlach

#

So i cast it, he breaks free, then karlach hits him but without the advantage or anything

safe jungle
#

ah, I had karlach, him, me

#

so it worked out pretty well

severe robin
#

I always take Alert on my casters and Strength ASI'a on my fighters

safe jungle
#

I don't know what that does but I assume it makes them go faster on the initiative order

#

I did the same thing with Karlach but I gave her thief using the dex 17 gloves

#

so she was pretty speedy

severe robin
#

It's +5 init and you can't be Surprised

#

It's really good

deft crypt
#

Especially since casters are well suited to going first to buff or nova strike or disable

safe jungle
#

that is pretty good

#

I just never felt a need to give one to my warlock because she's a durge and got the invisicloak

#

so as long as she kills she won't be getting targeted

#

which does wonders for survivability

#

at least up to act 3 anyways

severe robin
#

The immunity to surprise is also great

safe jungle
#

that is pretty great yeah

severe robin
#

It doesn't come up a lot, but when it does...

safe jungle
#

magic missile also very effective against him

#

bringing gale was a good idea

#

anyways I found this cool little ||amulet that set my CON score to 23||

#

so my warlock's got 135 health

sly flare
storm sinew
#

I kinda wish that companions didn't boohoo so much when you removed them from the party

#

Like, a little "aww" is whatever

#

but "Aww, you don't mean that" "You're making a mistake" "I question the wisdom of that decision" like bro shut up

simple spire
#

Frankly there should just be a party swap menu in camp, it's one of the few modern conveniences that Larian did forget about

winged vapor
#

It might still happen

#

I think they assumed people would be sticking to a few core characters for a full run

#

Which I get but also I love everyone and they should all spend time with me

sonic pollen
#

Lae'zel is truly one of the best romance options of all time

simple spire
#

Her ardent declarations are very cute

sonic pollen
#

she beat me up ❤️

deft crypt
#

Kidney that’s all women

sonic pollen
#

most women do not attempt to kick my ass

deft crypt
#

you didin't say do

#

just said can

sonic pollen
#

||why the fuck is there succubus spit in this chunk of raw spider meat||

sly flare
wise mango
sonic pollen
#

please tell me

sly flare
#

Very annoying to me that hold person only works on humanoids

sonic pollen
#

it's called "hold person"

winged vapor
#

There is a higher level spell that works on everyone

#

But there are many tricks for similar effects

sonic pollen
sly flare
#

act 2 spoilers ||it turns out the assumedly leader of the 3 absoulete is a stage magician||

austere hinge
#

I just wanna give lae'zel a hug and let her have emotions every once on a while

#

Tug at her thread and unravel her a little from the massive screaming knot she's become

simple spire
#

Screaming is the correct word

#

Lae’zel is terrified when you meet her and for a good while afterwards

austere hinge
#

Yee

#

Deserves all the kisses

simple spire
#

Larian did a really good job writing her both as a space fascist and as someone for whom the space fascism starts to break down as soon as nothing is reinforcing it

austere hinge
#

She's fucked up on several levels

#

But she's doing her best and that gives her a gold star

neon junco
#

Wyll and Karlach are the best beans despite the the trauma and maybe a little to spite the trauma

austere hinge
#

I'd say they're both pretty fucked up too, but yeah they do their best to be good people.

#

Not sure about halsin cause I don't have him in the party yet, or if that's an option

clear kestrel
#

He's basically vibing imo

safe jungle
#

Yeah Halsin just vibes

#

You wouldn’t know that ||he used to be some drow’s sex slave for years|| just by interacting with him

winged vapor
#

Gale is like, the least messed up I feel

austere hinge
#

I haven't interacted with him much, other than him begging magical items from me. I appreciate he's skeptical of a lot of things but also... no.

storm sinew
#

Gale unfortunately falls victim to "Everything must be a quip" syndrome

#

I still love him but I do wish he'd shut the fuck up on occasion

austere hinge
#

And I'm a bard already

#

So I doubly want to tell him to shut the fuck up

#

So I pretty much JUST got my first weird "guardian" dream (I do not trust them in the slightest) and I've talked to the people in camp about it. I find it funny that Astarian is literally the only one to go "oh we should TOTALLY do this, free power yey!"

winged vapor
#

He’s good company to my serious Paladin

deft crypt
winged vapor
#

And you learn it’s a defence mechanism

austere hinge
#

Yes but it's MY defense mechanism too and I can't have him doing a mediocre version of it

frigid oxide
#

I kinda wish there was more things to ping off my race/class tho, ngl

austere hinge
#

I've gotten quite a few Bard ones

#

I think having 'social' classes helps?

deft crypt
#

warlock gets a lot i think

frigid oxide
#

I'm a half orc barbarian

austere hinge
#

And I've had a few halfling ones too.

deft crypt
#

a classic tony

frigid oxide
#

Unless you want new ways to intimidate it's uncommon

#

Wow autocorrect

austere hinge
#

yeah bard ones tend to get you more persuasions or deceptions

#

Sometimes just performance

frigid oxide
#

I think I just want to play D&D now, which is odd considering my opinion of the system

austere hinge
#

Halfling options are usually just saying halfling things, like "Thank you for the gruel it looks delicious" and then they hand you another bowl for being nice.
Or "we'll never make any friends if you keep on doing that" to Lae'zel, which is strategic to make her eyes roll so far into her head she can see her own parasite.

#

Yeah, I can appreciate that Tony.

#

The trick is to play with someone who is cool and knows how to run properly.

winged vapor
#

Barbarian has such hilarious ways to deal with things

austere hinge
#

If the right person runs it you can make a fun game out of pulling letters out of alphabetti spaghetti to make words of power

frigid oxide
#

Brb homebrewing the weapon based special attack system into 5th

#

Unironically thinking about writing a "5e but you played bg3" homebrew set

austere hinge
#

Honestly yeah i'm considering just adding that shit myself when I run

#

D&D Larian Style

frigid oxide
#

Add in the couple things everyone likes from the 2024 DND ruleset whatever it's named now like the new "your off hand attack is part of your attack action" and "exhaustion isn't complicated" things

austere hinge
#

And anything Brennan Lee Mulligan has introduced to the game

#

because he does narrative stuff really well

storm sinew
#

TBH the biggest thing that I enjoy

austere hinge
#

But yes. I'm continuing to work my way through things. I got priestess gut alone and critical hit her with Karlach's smite ability. So... they exploded.

storm sinew
#

is being able to reactively use stuff

#

Swing and miss? Would you like to Reckless Attack?

#

Rolling for a thing, would you like to Guidance?

frigid oxide
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More spells not needing spell slots outside of combat or being able to be narratively downcast as cantrips would be cool, but also there was a homebrew to give all fighters maneuvers with battle masters being the experts at them that I liked

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Alright this is just venturing into a 5E rebuild I'll cut myself off and work on it outside of chat

austere hinge
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I mean that's what rituals are usually for

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being able to cast spells as rituals

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it makes them free but take longer

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I think detect thoughts, speak with animals and speak with dead are all rituals

soft tundra
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Yeah, thats what rituals are for!

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Now you can get into what should/shouldnt be a ritual and all that, I think thats a design space that could have fun potential

severe robin
safe jungle
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just finished the epilogue

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that was a wild ride

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now to see about installing mods..

severe robin
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There's some fun ones

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Abberant Bloodline Sorc, Psi Knight,

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The frakking Mystic Unearthed Arcana

soft tundra
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Speak with Animals, Find Familiar, Detect Magic, Comprehend Languages, Alarm, Silence, Tiny Hut, and Water Breathing are my big notable 5e rituals; Speak with Animals made it into BG3, the devs axed Detect Magic for good reasons, and Speak with Dead was made a ritual for story improvements

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same w/ Detect Thoughts being a potion/scroll everywhere

safe jungle
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I kinda wanna give everyone one extra perk so that I can screw around with giving everyone music instrument feat without having to respec to do a full band performance

soft tundra
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For at least one character theres an in-game way to get free musical prof

safe jungle
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Yeah I have that on my warlock

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But bard songs sound way better with like two instruments

soft tundra
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true!

bleak wagon
soft tundra
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That was actually why they cut it!

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i am having difficulty fighting google finding the post/article, but basically Larian realized detect magic would just be a UI nightmare and also give away way too much of the story

safe jungle
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Also the same reason why they forbade dispel magic

silk dune
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tbf it would have been hilarious for the food system to stop mattering partway through act i

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but very unbalanced

safe jungle
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Lmao Tara

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“Ah, you were the one who helped Mr Dekarios save Baldur’s Gate.”

“Actually I think you got it other way around. Gale helped me.”

“That doesn’t sound like him. Sure, if you want to remember things that way, whatever.”

soft tundra
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poor Gale

austere hinge
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Is there a purpose to the bard songs? Other than being cool?

clear kestrel
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You can get money

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And distract NPCs

severe robin
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^

clear kestrel
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But I think that's it

sly flare
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if you make enough money you get an achievment

severe robin
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They sound nice

austere hinge
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Oh! Interesting.

severe robin
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NPCs will come up and watch you perform

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If you do well they'll cheer and throw coins

austere hinge
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To be fair I haven't gone to baldur's gate yet so I've not met many casually friendly npcs

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And I feel bad taking money from the tieflings

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And uh... the entire goblin camp, but I'm doing horrible things to it

severe robin
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How about the Droods?

austere hinge
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Friendly

severe robin
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So they'll let you in to play your songs thinkaboutit

austere hinge
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I'm already in thankfully. At least I'm not fully locked out yet.

clear kestrel
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Don't forget to long rest often

austere hinge
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I've done it three times. I don't want all the tieflings to get shoved out

clear kestrel
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It's all upside to long rest, I wouldn't worry

safe jungle
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I used the bard song to distract the ||archivist|| in act 3 ||House of Hope|| while Karlach disabled the traps and made off with the loot

clear kestrel
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Lotta companion progression is tied to it

safe jungle
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its very useful when you need npcs to stare at a wall for a few minutes

austere hinge
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I mean every time I've long rested bad things happened, like gale eating my stuff and astarian eating my neck and lae'zel... wanting me carnally then later trying to slit my throat

severe robin
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There is... One situation that I recall where long resting advances a timer to a negative outcome, instead of just progressing quests

clear kestrel
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Is it the one with ||nere?||

severe robin
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Ye

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Blindsided me my first playthrough

clear kestrel
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ye I think that's the only one

severe robin
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I went in with no Shrests

sly flare
safe jungle
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she's only a little bit yandere

severe robin
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And wanted to ||save the Gnome||

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[Late Act One Spoilers]

safe jungle
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in my next playthrough

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I should just

austere hinge
safe jungle
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assassinate all the duergar before I rescue Nere

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I think I can pull it off with no long rests

sly flare
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The duergar can be seperated into lots of little fight fairly easily

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The number of times I heard the "You just attacked someone, only the guards are allowed to do that" thing come up

austere hinge
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I will note here, because its either me being savvy or dramatic irony, that I do not trust the thing telling me to eat other parasites to make mine stronger

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I might have let volo into my skull but I'm not letting more of the parasites into my brain

sly flare
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what's the worst that could happen

austere hinge
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To which side?

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Anyway Astarian said we should do it so I know it's a bad idea

sly flare
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To you, what's the worse that could happen to you if you put more in?

safe jungle
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you get weird black blood and die

clear kestrel
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Just send in another worm to flush out the first one

charred niche
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They would be wiggly and unpleasant and I'd carry the sense memory for all time

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So no wormies

austere hinge
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Brain full of parasites and I explode into squid tentacles

austere hinge
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Also I think lae'zal wouldn't like me

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Which powers me

soft tundra
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I did my entire first run with no worms / have done others since

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its fun!

austere hinge
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Yeah I'm going no worms

severe robin
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Worms are great

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I was doing an all wors run on my monk

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Where my monk ate all the worms

austere hinge
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I might do a other run with many worms

severe robin
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And I was crossing entire maps killing 3+ people a turn

austere hinge
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Well I'm a bard so I don't think I can do that even with their help

severe robin
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I can only tremble in fear imagining what I would have been capable of if I got the thing that makes powers bonus actions

winged vapor
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The worms help a lot with the action economy on caster if you do a specific thing

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So it’s hard to pass up

soft tundra
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It does help you with some RP stuff later on in act 2/3 ( not worming up )

silk dune
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it does make me sad thats theres no real benefit to no worms

winged vapor
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Apart from RP

silk dune
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yeah

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but even then it's never acknowledged

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aside from your own head

winged vapor
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You can just dabble in the worms

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Not to poop on 5e but I think that’s because you’re suppose to take a few to make builds a bit more interesting

soft tundra
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Thats how they get ya

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then your dealer doubles the prices /s

winged vapor
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Hahah

grave prism
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my new character Tenebril

austere hinge
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very nice

grave prism
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playing modded so i'm a Velkyn'bol Tiefling Wizard

soft tundra
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what is a velkyn'bol tief!!

grave prism
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slime

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i get advantage on stealth checks and can get into small spaces

safe jungle
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a slimy tiefling

austere hinge
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goo hours

soft tundra
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guess Tav found themselves in a real... sticky situation

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🥁

safe jungle
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i'm a little afraid of adding any new race or class because I'm afraid i might break some thing

grave prism
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lmao

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i rolled a 23 on deception on my first time talking to Gale when he asked me if i was a wizard and i told him no

frigid oxide
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I need to try that

sonic pollen
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so...

I have found out what happens if you ||kill the Emperor in the prism fight||

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||I kinda wish that Orpheus could prevent your ceremorphosis without the Emperor||

winged vapor
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Act two spoiler question: ||when I enter the Kao toa ritual can I make anyone do the sacrifice because I want lae zel to have the bonus not my TAV?||

clear kestrel
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||I think you can sacrifice anyone, not sure if the buff will go to TAV or just the current speaker||

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||Just be warned they are dead for good||

wise mango
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||So if you sacrifice gale you have 2 days to finish Act 2 before he blows up||

grave prism
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ok i am not going to be a blood magic wizard, i'm Way of the Ascendant Dragon Monk gang now

simple spire
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Mod?

deft crypt
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no she just brute forced reality

grave prism
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just that good

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(yes, it is mods)

sonic pollen
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Romancing Lae'zel as Durge is honestly pretty funny

||Lae'zel: You are silk and satin. I want to protect you, and I want you to protect me||
||Durge: Transformed into an unspeakable killing machine of Bhaal||

grave prism
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Lae'zel is going to be my romance for this run also

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i would love to do Karlach but my friend is romancing her

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he wanted to do it last game but since we weren't playing modded he couldn't cause we are 4 players

sly flare
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Spoilers for act 2 ||I teleported out of the brain under moonlight and now Halsin, the tiefling refugees and a flaming fist are all hostile? jahira is there and an ally? I have no clue what the fuck is happening||

grave prism
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it was actually kinda depressing cause he kept trying

sly flare
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||I just did the big boss fight so I've got like no health, I'm really confused and this feels wrong||

grave prism
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and in (spoilers for the end of the game)||the post brain battle cutscenes, he didn't even get to do the cutscenes for Karlach, and i did them instead||

safe jungle
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Multiplayer be janky with NPC interactions

sly flare
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||A bunch of like civilians are beating the high harper to death with their fists? I don't know how I fucked up to make the game like this||

safe jungle
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What

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That’s the life of the Harper tbh

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One day you are fighting, risking limb and life for the sake for the people

grave prism
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i think ||Jaheira just died in combat trying to get us up the tower tbh||

safe jungle
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And the next day you get beaten up in a back alley by the people and mugged

grave prism
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||we were playing on tactician and she was kind of shit so we literally just couldn't do much of anytihng to save her||

sly flare
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||I skipped the fight at the beggining of the tower because it looked like a ball ache, just climbed up the side into the generals room and got to the roof from there||

safe jungle
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Dropped the Hunger on their warlocks and it made the fight a lot more manageable

sly flare
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||Jaheria is now dead, but I've managed to run away from the weird fight. I don't know hwat I did but I know it's my fault and it isnt supposed to be like this||

safe jungle
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Btw what is a hadar

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And why is it so hungry

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And touching people inappropriately

deft crypt
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great old one

storm sinew
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alright I'm gonna say it

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Act 3 spoilers

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||Orpheus looks fucking silly lmao||

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||The patchwork beard that's not-quite mutton chops by the ears sends me every time||

severe robin
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He do

grave prism
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bro

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everyone keeps calling me a drow

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i assume that the mod just tacks the drow dialouges onto being a Velkyn'bol Tiefling

safe jungle
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playing as a drow halfelf who actually just looks like a normal human

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I wonder if the game will catch on to that lmao

grave prism
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i look like this actually

merry wharf
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Or wait

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no I think just a forest elf

grave prism
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people mistaking me for a drow is perplexing

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even without my slime form this is what i look like

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aka not like a drow at all

safe jungle
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You look spooky

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And all spooky people are drow

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Auntie Ethel? Really fucked up drow

grave prism
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i don't look spooky at all

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perfectly normal tiefling

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seems like the Velkyn'bol are touched by Ghaunadaur which is probably why i keep getting Drow dialogue, cause Ghaunadar is a drow deity

safe jungle
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all tiefling look spooky

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ergo all tiefling are drow

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are all the great old ones evil

grave prism
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Thinking if i should dip 3 levels in thief rogue for an extra bonus action

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Basically translates into an extra action since i'm going monk this time around

simple spire
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Monk w/thief 3 is phenomenal

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Picking up sleight of hand expertise also helps free up space in your arty composition

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Safe to presume you’re a Dex monk?

grave prism
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We already have a rogue anyway so it's not a pressing matter

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I'm trying to focus Dex and Wis

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I'm playing modded so i'm a Way of the Ascendant Dragon Monk

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If i multiclass Thief then i lose this ability, 3 ki points, some movement speed and a feat

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Trying to decide if it is going to be worth it

simple spire
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I would say it probably is worth it but ymmv

grave prism
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I think it'll probably be worth it too

simple spire
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You might also want to consider if you want to take Rogue to 4 for 3 feats

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Monk 9’s benefits are pretty small, all things considered, and monks love ASIs

grave prism
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You know what that's a good idea

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9 ki point total feels like it's gonna be kind of a small amount but i think they regen on short rests so maybe it's not so bad

simple spire
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I have found that 9 is more than enough, personally

grave prism
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Fair

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I can respec at literally any time if i want to change chings anyway so it shouldn't matter much

simple spire
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Yep

sly flare
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As a Warlock player, I think 9 of your resourse is crazy

grave prism
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I'll try a 8/4 split

grave prism
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Didn't feel it as much cause Eldritch Blast is a free rapid fire gauss cannon

sly flare
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I'm thinking of multiclassing into some ranger for my run just because I think that'll be neat. 9/3 Warlock ranger.

Ranger stuff just looks cool

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And the 6th level spells dont

grave prism
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Idk how much monks rely on ki points

sly flare
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I assume to similar degree as battle master fighter?

grave prism
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Anyway imma go with a 8/4 split

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Focus my feats on ASI's

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I want to max my Wis and Dex as much as possible

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Gonna grab Tavern Brawler too once i get one of the items that sets my strength high

simple spire
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If you want to do Tavern Brawler strength monk you might want to consider starting with a fighter level for heavy armor and shields.

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Again, ymmv, but my karlach’s aiming for Fighter 1/Monk 8/Thief 3

winged vapor
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You can also go for unarmoured to for the speed and just take a potion for the strength

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It’s a bit cheesy but they are super easy to stockpile

simple spire
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Armoured mainly helps with itemization and AC

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There’s a lot of good armor and shields in this game

winged vapor
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True true

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Though the monk gear is also pretty darn good

simple spire
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Either way, Karlach is absolutely my team’s heavy hitter

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Tavern Brawler stronk

winged vapor
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Yeah very

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Though I’ve gotten a nuts combo with the wild heart barb and just any aoe spell that NPCs want to walk out of

safe jungle
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Karlach is a ranged combat class

winged vapor
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The range is how far she can jump lol

sly flare
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Act 3 spoilers: ||"Yes I'm called the emperor and I have an army of intellect devourers but I swear I'm a good guy. Evidence? Bro trust me" - Dream guardian before I fucking kill them||

grave prism
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Fuck ||The Emperor, what a bitch||

sly flare
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||Gotta keep em alive because otherwise I'll die. They really could do more to make themself trustworthy||

grave prism
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||Emperor be like "being an illithid is cool actually, give me the netherstones i can be trusted sith unlimited power", like an absolute chump, being an Illithid is shit you are just brainwashed||

sly flare
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||"I don't want to evolve" Emperor "Fuck you, I will force you to anyway unless you can pass this skill check"||

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||"You have embraced cemorphis" No I havent, I literally wasnt given another option but a roll a d20 4 times and hope for a 20||