Understood, thank you.
#Baldur's Gate 3
echo trailBOT
soft tundra
I'd agree with that advice!
If it helps, you can change your mind mid-route and go the other way.
dawn terrace
Do both, get to the end of one then loop back to do the other
soft tundra
i do think Underdark first is an easier curve
severe robin
Spoilered for my reasoning ||I suggested it cause, does the game even tell you about Last Light if you go the Mountaim path?||
severe robin
Spoilered for my reasoning ||I suggested it cause, does the game even tell you a...
||And even if it does, with the mountain pass you've gotta double back and stuff||
soft tundra
Spoilered for my reasoning ||I suggested it cause, does the game even tell you a...
||You do run into the Last Light Inn survivors as you explore past the Mountain Pass area; for me, the logic is that the githyanki creche and Mountain Pass revenants are strong if you go early, and I think the Underdark is such a cool place with lots of cool content
Mountain Pass feels like Act 1.5 to me||
simple spire
I strongly recommend doing both.
soft tundra
you get some weird changes if you skip mountain pass
severe robin
Oh yeah, go back around for the mountain pass
There's some really nice stuff in there
winged vapor
The pass I think is harder bud has better gear so I try to do it first
If you can swing it
frigid oxide
You can do both?
frigid oxide
I guess I need to start a new run
clear kestrel
Or you could save it for the next one
Restarting just cos things didn't go perfect is a great way to burn out
frigid oxide
In my current and partly unusable 2p run we skipped it
But every time I try to do multiplayer it kicks me to the main menu right now
winged vapor
When you want to try the tempest cleric sorc build but create water is bugged lol
arctic moat
y’all got any suggestions to help with my OoV Paladin always going dead last in initiative? my dex is at 10 and i’ve tried running at dex 16 with a rapier, but i want the extra damage of 2h GWM
soft tundra
Alert feat later on?
severe robin
^
There's the uh, Elixir of Vigilance, which you can save for tough fights where you really need to go first
Which is just an Elixir that gives you the Alert feat
soft tundra
🤔 i wonder if Enhance Ability Dex works with the way bg3 does initiative
severe robin
There's a few items that give some bonuses to Initiative but really...
Going last in initiative is kinda the cost of the build you seem to be going for?
If you have low Dex you're gonna get low initiative there isn't really a whole lot that can be done about that
soft tundra
I would ask why you want to go earlier outside of "killing them sooner"; if its a problem like getting CC'd, might be easier for some defensive buffing like the paladin aura
arctic moat
I would ask why you want to go earlier outside of "killing them sooner"; if its ...
my urge for incredible amounts of violence mainly
because the of the way Vow of Enmity(?) works rn i just get advantage against everyone for ten turns
arctic moat
i was originally gonna go OB 7/Fiend warlock 5 but vengeance has been so fun i’m just gonna wait and see if i break my oath naturally
soft tundra
Bow of Awareness is pretty good to keep on you
soft tundra
keeping bows for their passives on big melees is a nice trick for the game
arctic moat
i’ll def keep that in mind
winged vapor
So far my oath of ancients warlock mix has been my strongest build
arctic moat
what patron?
soft tundra
I have officially finished all of Act 1 on Honour, whew what a ride so far
clear kestrel
Nobody dead yet?
soft tundra
I almost had a tpk in the forge due to some bad shoving rng but a scroll of misty step + invis helped me run away to regroup
echo trailBOT
Oh my gods. We were sweet talking a cat in order to pet him, only for "Lae'zel disapproves" show up in the corner. Ma'am, you can't even understand what he's saying.
Again! Let me talk to this cat in peace.
soft tundra
not a cat person!
grave prism
Lae'zel does not appreciate you talking to the cat lmao
neon junco
Laezel is a cat that doesn't like other cats and when you give any cat but her attention
simple spire
Astarion approves of complimenting the cat
dawn terrace
Astarion a cat person confirmed.
neon junco
Um actually a cat person is a Tabaxi which is in in baldur's gate 3
Who knows with the size of the game it might be and i've missed them every time
winged vapor
Great Old one patron, it’s great
severe robin
I did Archfey patron, don't think I used any of the Archfey features, and still had a blast
Okay, actually
I used the uh, what is it
Misty Escape was very good
It did give me a very fun dialogue option in Act 3 though
winged vapor
Bard has the absolute best options
white sleet
I quite enjoyed the options rogue gave me tbh
severe robin
Bard has the absolute best options
Bard might have the best options, but then I have to play a Bard
(I do not like playing Bards. I don't know what I'm supposed to do with them.)
simple spire
Take 2 levels in Paladin, explode things 😄
severe robin
I don't really like multiclassing tbh
silk dune
Bard might have the best options, but then I have to play a Bard
bard only has the best options if you're the sort of person who enjoys playing bards imo
soft tundra
I like to be a Lore Bard and get access to a lot of funny control spells and being amazing at skill checks; I've also seen Sword Bard be used very well
i do think some of the bard dialogue options are A Bit Too Silly
silk dune
I think a lot of people look at bard and go "my favourite ergo the best objectively"
soft tundra
Its fun for sure, and the extra short rest fuckin rules
severe robin
I will say, I've only ever been a Bard at like, level 3
severe robin
I am bored
I have come up with a solution to my boredom
I am going to play a "fuck everything up" run
Might do Durge, might not
What class should I play
Monk is great fun but I already have two
white sleet
Sorcerer? Get those metamagic big blasty spells
Alternately go rogue so you can get that sleight of hand expertise on your character in case you're gonna tell astarion to fuck off
severe robin
Nah Astarion will probably like me for being evil
Monk is...
Very tempting, but I will restrain myself
For now
I might do a storm sorcerer, actually
...
I'm gonna take poison spray!
Also I'm doing a custom difficulty run with some of the settings set to tactitian
severe robin
I'm gonna take poison spray!
Poison Spray is not working out that great.
charred niche
Poison's in a weird spot in 5e, half of things resist it, cantrip has shoooort range..
severe robin
Actually I'm not going to play I don't think
I feel like if I play more outside my multiplayer run I'm gonna get burnt out and that's no good for anyone
soft tundra
Wild Magic Sorc is very funny for everything going wrong; I think if its a "kill everyone" run, Rogue Durge is very fun.
arctic moat
damn i just murdered the SHIT out of the goblin camp
i love this game
poison and sentinel glaive paladin at a chokepoint works wonders
echo trailBOT
We've figured a new, more interesting form of fraud: simply sell a merchant you dislike several high-value items, kill them, and then loot their corpse for your items again.
Also... ||we're fairly certain we've found barrels of firewine with live kobolds in them. We're going to be holding on to them until an opportunity to use them arises.||
neon junco
They're just chilling in your inventory
frigid oxide
Let them out in the middle of a populated area (don't)
neon junco
Do not throw random pokeballs you find in the camp
frigid oxide
I might have thrown a certain flask into a crowded place in act one to not have to deal with the people there
echo trailBOT
We've assigned Karlach role as pack mule, what with her having the Mighty Cloth. 480 carry capacity is nothing to sneeze at.
frigid oxide
BG3 turns me into a menace whenever enough barrels of fun material appear
frigid oxide
If I was skilled at modding there would be a crab vendor somewhere with what I need in this game (sells smokepowder and oil barrels).
Behold my greatest spell, infinite explosion
echo trailBOT
Unironically the ability to place down smokepowder barrels next to HVTs and then set them off later is what got us through the goblin camp.
frigid oxide
Strategic management of my barrels is fun but I would like to be worse
severe robin
The Squad on our way to [End of Act 2 Spoilers] ||Push Ketheric's shit in||
We now have a Skeleton and two Ice Mephits
severe robin
God
Everyone died
Except for one member. It wasn't even the boss it was from the fucking Runepowder Barrel wiping us all
Lmfao
neon junco
Rune powder is great nuke
severe robin
It chunked the [BIG end of Act 2 Spoilers] ||Disciple of Myrkul|| for like, 3/4ths of their health bar, killed everyone in the party except for the druid who was in Owlbear form and me, the monk, killed all of our summons, and threw everyone off the platform
I had like, 6 hit points left after getting hit with a crit Smite so I got killed immediately after though
neon junco
I think my favorite thing is making the boss of act 2 drop their weapon and they just kind of swing with their fists like a baby
severe robin
Honestly I'm kinda sad we used it here actually
I'm wishing we saved it for a certain Act 3 Fighter
Oh, important note
severe robin
It chunked the [**BIG end of Act 2 Spoilers**] ||Disciple of Myrkul|| for like, ...
Nobody actually died died
They all went down and got thrown off of the platform out of range of the boss
There was an Earth Elemental that surrvived the explosion too
rotund furnace
Spoilers regarding Raphael's arc: ||I've been told he sings his own boss fight theme, and that if you cast Silence on him, the lyrics cut out of the song. Can anyone confirm?||
silk dune
yes
neon junco
Amazing attention to detail imo
frigid oxide
I wonder if I can ||keep him silenced the entire fight||
grave prism
me and the boys ||blowing up an entire fireworks shop||
||we literally killed everyone and the child just went "the smokepowder smell is good"||
winged vapor
Question, I want to try a close range caster. What’s your favourite build that also suits dark urge ?
grave prism
Warlock
winged vapor
Interesting
grave prism
there are gloves you can get that make all spells melee range so you can do funny shenanigans with that
charred niche
Sorcerer feels Durge-y too, but not super melee friendly
grave prism
also if can do multiclassing into stuff like Warrior or Paladin for Heavy armor and weapons specialties
i had 1 level of warrior for heavy armor and a great sword for most of the playthrough i am in
simple spire
Tempest or War Cleric will do excellently as a close-range caster with very little fuss
charred niche
Cleric Durge also has fun weird lore bits
soft tundra
Question, I want to try a close range caster. What’s your favourite build that a...
Bard 1(or3) / Sorc 2+, be a smooth talking breaking and entering monster
severe robin
Lot of fun Obscurment magic items
grave prism
welp
seems my party ||completely missed out on the steelwatcher factory||
||it was literally just exploded when we got there for some reason||
soft tundra
i wonder if theres a way to ||mess up the gnome/hostage stuff to that degree to cause that 🤔 like fucking up w/ barcus, pissing off wulbren, not making a deal with gortash, not doing or messing up the submarine stuff? ||
trying to think of all the "triggers"
i do know if you immediately kill|| Gortash, the Foundry blows up on its own||, that may have happened
due to some failsafe stuff cuz he's a fucker
soft tundra
hey, you killed him! thats a w
and its fairly hard to do w/ the watchers still up so good job
grave prism
(Act 3 spoilers)||vampires in Cazadors dungeons: talk about how Astarion tricked them||
||Me, who murdered Astarion in cold blood immediately in act 1:||
||... well then||
grave prism
||Cazador died in one turn to our Paladin with all sacrifices still in play, fucking owned||
grave prism
nope normal run
safe jungle
clear kestrel
Karlash melting through the snow had me laughing
grave prism
good ol Ghaik head for christmas, works every time
neon junco
Wow that's so much BG3 packed into a tiny video I love it
So have little game references
Gale telling them not to lick it was a fun reference
neon junco
||... well then||
Huh wonder what happens if you just hold onto the corpse the entire game
clear kestrel
Better yet, enter the boss room, leave and then reanimate him
See if it gets you two
grave prism
Huh wonder what happens if you just hold onto the corpse the entire game
an interesting idea
severe robin
We forgor to rescue [Act 2 Spoilers] ||Rolan|| :(
golden grotto
severe robin
Uegh
Playing my evil Durge bitch and I wanna leave Shart in the tube to see what happens,
But I also want the fancy flaming sword cuz that's useful to have
grave prism
https://fixupx.com/yaaayhem/status/1738695985008934934?s=46&t=fr1zz5HLk6wLBeuABT...
i love the little fucking pogface that Durge makes in the beginning of the vid
i am filled with joy
dawn terrace
i am filled with joy
Not a thought in his head, fantastic
severe robin
I just found out something amazing
So, Cloudkill, my favourite 5th level spell, does shitloads of poison damage just as you enter Act 3, which has a lot of normal humanoid enemies
soft tundra
lots of nice enclosed areas too
severe robin
Anyways, problem: It's indiscriminate
If the enemies just leave and run up to your frontline, what can you do?
Solution:
Monks get Immunity to Poison damage at level 10
low kindle
Final Ending (involving Karlach's plot) spoilers:
||Y'all have no idea how feral I'd get for DLC that focuses on us killing Zariel and getting away with it with Karlach alive and able to live in the Material Plane. A power fantasy of killing evil named NPCs in big time settings is a NEED, not a want for me. Bonus points if Mordekainen shows up so i can punch him in the face for his whole "b-but balance is needed in the Blood War! Killing Zariel will give the demons a huge advantage" spiel. He SEEMS like someone who would look at Karlach and go "I'm sorry for the suffering you went through but you fighting for Zariel was a net positive for the multiverse".||
Okay unhinged rant over
soft tundra
I don't think that's impossible, given that the ||devs did have some plans for a Hells/Avernus level at some point in development ||
neon junco
Final Ending (involving Karlach's plot) spoilers:
||Y'all have no idea how fera...
Or ||redeem zariel as is possible in that one module that features karlach and have zariel fight the demons to maintain balance||
soft tundra
The module that is a prequel to BG3, in a funny twist.
charred niche
The module has such a different vibe to BG3
soft tundra
It is an entirely different campaign, yeah.
charred niche
I mean like the city itself and such, Gortash and his army was a surprise
In the book it's very. Bad. In the city, mostly
In like a classical medieval way
soft tundra
Baldur's Gate is a city of corruption, but still a walled in protected city, its got its charms.
neon junco
Considering act 1 was in the complete wilderness and act 2 was in lands blighted by shar, baldur's gate is a nicer place
soft tundra
if youre not wealthy in Baldur's Gate tho life sucks
safe jungle
There always must be an archduke of Avernus
So even if you take down Zariel you gotta think about who to replace her with
simple spire
She’s not the first and she won’t be the last
Asmodeus views the leadership of Avernus as extremely replaceable
severe robin
Monk is absolutely cracked I love it
I'm running around killing like, 2+ people a turn
soft tundra
💪 👊 💪
grave prism
man i would LOVE if the devs would try to patch some of the optimization bugs and shit, i've been having so many fucking problems with crashing and things not loading even though my pc should be more than capable of dealing with it
white sleet
So even if you take down Zariel you gotta think about who to replace her with
Replace her with His Majesty ngl
safe jungle
hear me out
what if we replace her with vampire lord astarion
seal two evils at once
grave prism
(act 3 spoilers) ||most normal party member||
safe jungle
Seems normal to me yeah
grave prism
ironically not even close to the most evil inclined person in the party
safe jungle
I remember fondly the day when I walked into the ||newspaper office ||caked in blood to confess my sins
soft tundra
I'm sorry you're having those troubles, Freyja, but if it helps those are a part of pretty much every patch/hotfix they're doing
so they are actively working on it constantly
safe jungle
And the fop didn’t even use any of my most lurid crimes
grave prism
(act 3 spoilers) ||This is the true face of madness||
||tbf i consider her to be chaotic neutral even if my friends call her chaotic evil||
||she's ruled by her own perception of the world and acts based on a kind of standing system where she is antagonistic to people who she has negative interactions with||
||very much a kind of self based morality||
safe jungle
My durge has been ||chaotic good to friends, chaotic evil to her enemies||
Would that balance out to chaotic neutral
grave prism
that's basically how my character has been
the reason why my friends ||call her evil is because we've had a lot of interactions she considered to be negative so she's generally been pretty hostile to people||
grave prism
(act 3 spoilers) ||finally summoned The Boys™️||
neon junco
So many boys
Act 3 really loves huge fights
And gives you lots of summons for even bigger fights
It's the war of action economy
grave prism
||THE BOYS DIED INSTANTLY 😭 ||
||one of them got killed and they all suicide bombed the one who did it and killed them instantly||
grave prism
||THE FUCKING COPS SHOWED UP IN A SHAR CAMP PLACE LMAO||
||we walked into a Shar place and the last of them fucking called the cops on our rogue and they actually arrived||
||she got obliterated||
safe jungle
The ||sharrans|| evade taxes like any other citizen
They totally deserve police protection
safe jungle
Don’t you know ||it’s guilty before proven innocent||
||where is your evidence that you did not cast chain lightning||
grave prism
Most relatable Warlock post
safe jungle
neon junco
The ||sharrans|| evade taxes like any other citizen
||Sharrans are rich and bring in that tickle down wealth so they don't need to pay taxes /s||
dawn terrace
safe jungle
Blep
neon junco
Blep
simple spire
Mlem
winged vapor
Has anyone actually used the storm sorcerer/tempest cleric build
It’s all over YouTube but it seems clunky
simple spire
Cleric 2/Draconic Sorcerer 10?
It seems fine? Honestly doesn’t have much over just vanilla Tempest Cleric since it misses Chain Lightning.
proven forum
Has anyone actually used the storm sorcerer/tempest cleric build
Yes, it’s fine
It felt too one trick pony for me ultimately, and I got bored.
It is certainly good damage wise.
winged vapor
You can dip wizard for lighting, yeah I really want a close range caster, I’m guessing cleric will be the way to go in the end
simple spire
You can dip wizard for lighting, yeah I really want a close range caster, I’m gu...
Spirit Guardians is a hell of a trick
charred niche
Cleric has a bunch of spells that love being surrounded by clowns
Destructive Wave is both such a good name and fun spell
neon junco
Spirit guardians, spiritual weapon, guardian of faith
All the summons
So much passive damagr
winged vapor
I wish I liked guardians but since it doesn’t do damage when you go in and out anymore I feel like there are better spells
neon junco
Oh i'm guessing they nerfed it to work as intended?
winged vapor
Hey so the mourning frost staff used to apply chilled very easily and now seems to never work
Anyone know what’s going on
soft tundra
Huh, weird. Ill test when im home to see if it works for me
winged vapor
I heard the DC is locked at super low, but it was just one old Reddit post
simple spire
Most item DCs are class-based (in sometimes weird ways)
grave prism
I wish I liked guardians but since it doesn’t do damage when you go in and out a...
fr?
man
it's so fucking weird hearing about all these changes
my friends and i are still playing the same campaign we started literally the day the game launched
so everything has been changing during our first campaign
soft tundra
yeah i imagine coordinating 4 people to play takes time
winged vapor
Huh, weird. Ill test when im home to see if it works for me
Did you have a chance to check ?
soft tundra
i will still be at work for another few hours, alas
soft tundra
no problem! i never mind pings
severe robin
I am now beginning exploration into modding Baldur's Gate 3
grave prism
nice
severe robin
Aberrant Mind Evil Durge playthrough let's gooo
winged vapor
It makes me sad you can’t get the best robes for warlock on an evil run
severe robin
...
There's a mod that adds the Mystic...
Oh my...
I might do that instead...
I am rather fond of the Mystic, even if it is kinda busted...
severe robin
winged vapor
It’s okay games still great
severe robin
Do I do Aberrant Mind, or Mystic durge?
Drow Mystic.
So I don't feel like I have to cheese Potent Robe
Hm.
I can't seem to choose the new classes/subclasses I downloaded?
Anybody have experience with downloading class mods?
soft tundra
Alas, I have no experience with it myself; I'm assuming this is using Nexusmods/Vortex stuff?
My usual go-to checklist is to make sure I have all the required pre-req mods, and then make sure each of those was set up in the right order, since that matters
severe robin
I seem to have gotten it to go from seemingly no mods existing to crashing on startup
Unfortunately, I have no clue how to arrange my load order
clear kestrel
Well how many mods do you have
severe robin
14
clear kestrel
If this is your first time, I'd cut that down
soft tundra
Something to try is to start with 1 mod and just add 1 each startup to see what happens
clear kestrel
^
And make sure they are all upto to date with the latest version of the game
(Sometimes they will say in the description, otherwise see if it has been updated since the latest game update)
Any that aren't, I'd remove
severe robin
I did figure out the problem, actually
clear kestrel
Yay
severe robin
BG3 Mod Manager doesn't actually like, apply the mods to the game automatically, it seems?
You need to tell it to add the mods you've put as active
severe robin
Which means now I'm getting into figuring out why it keeps crashing and not working, but at least this time it's a problem I have experience with
clear kestrel
These days a lot of mod managers try to let you swap things in and out
Try installing one at a time
grave prism
That's usually my strat
clear kestrel
Well there's something
soft tundra
progress 💪
severe robin
I've got it.
severe robin
Lae'Zel is now a Psionic Warrior!
storm sinew
So like, spoilers for Act 3 but
||Lae'zel has been kidnapped by Orin, and I need to catch up on levels so I want to sidequest a bunch.|| If I take too many long rests/do too much, will she just be dead when I get there?
winged vapor
||If you side with Gortash I think it’s the only way she dies||
gaunt jackal
||Lae'zel has been kidnapped by Orin, and I need to catch up on levels so I want...
||No, there's no time limit unless you find where she is and go after her pre-Gortash kill||
winged vapor
||You can even go into the sewers iirc|| just not to her base
storm sinew
That WAS kind of my plan yeah, because fuck Orin
I figure she's going to be the worst to deal with so get her out of the way first
winged vapor
||Nah she’s a great last one to end. It feels like the conclusion imo||
storm sinew
Also is this chatterteeth guy SUPPOSED to do nothing in the Cazador fight
he cast Eyebite: Sleep and then proceeded to do nothing
dawn valley
wich face should i give to my half elf druid, the punk or the youth pastor
winged vapor
The first is cooler
clear kestrel
Punk
dawn valley
my man listen to Infected Mushroom since he join the circle of spore
white sleet
Punk for sure
soft tundra
he cast Eyebite: Sleep and then proceeded to do nothing
If hes concentrating on Eyebite he usually Ray of Frosts
severe robin
Honestly I might respec off of Mystic into Aberrant Mind Sorc
Mystic's cool and all, but so is reactivity and magic item support
clear kestrel
I do wonder how well these mod classes work
Not just mechanically but how well the game can actively support it with the encounters in the game as is
severe robin
What do you mean?
One thing I've noticed with Mystic, although I haven't made it very far, is that the game seems to be giving me Wizard/Sorcerer dialogue options
clear kestrel
Like, for example I think a Artificer class would need more mechanics that the base game doesn't really have
And like, there's not loot to support how they work unless the other classes
etc
severe robin
Yeah that's kinda my thinking
The game is like, too tightly woven to be able to add stuff like that
clear kestrel
I think it'd doable but just needs more time than modders have had
severe robin
Yeah, sorry
severe robin
The game is like, too tightly woven to be able to add stuff like that
*without significant time and effort
clear kestrel
Is all good
soft tundra
I am eager to see how the modding scene develops!
clear kestrel
Same
Divinity 2 got some big ones
Not content wise but class overhauls, new classes, gameplay overhauls etc
Although it's class system is very different
severe robin
Ok time to go beat ||Alfira|| unconcious so I can get that sick Act 2 Robe
Maybe
Unsure if I'll be able to get that if I side with the goblins...
I find it rather amusing how of all the origins, the one that would probably get the most use out of the Potent Robe is the one that is locked out from getting it
Yes, I know Wyll exists, but come on, he's clearly a Bladelock not an Eldritch Blaster
clear kestrel
RIP but also fair
severe robin
Did get the robes from Karlach, though
severe robin
Okay
Why is my Charisma modifier +3?
Because it's only 17 is why
Why is my Charisma only 17?
Oh right you can't start higher than 17
soft tundra
correct!
severe robin
Sorry I am... unused to being this low level
soft tundra
I am not sure who you are apologizing to or why, its all good
My own preference is the level 1-10 range so BG3 was nice for me there.
severe robin
I find below level 5 to be not the best, for me
Also it's more that I've been playing my multiplayer game where we're in Act 3 so I'm used to that
grave prism
yeah me and my buddies have been in act 3 for months
grave prism
i've been playing this playthrough since launch
severe robin
Er, which launch
soft tundra
it'll be wild if you do another run Freyja, stuff has changed
grave prism
Er, which launch
the one when the game fully released
grave prism
it'll be wild if you do another run Freyja, stuff has changed
me and my buddies are doing a modded run next
but yeah a lot of shit has changed since we started this run
dawn valley
||hey is it true that if you fight the emperor at the begining of act 3 it's gameover ?||
frigid oxide
Spore druid dual wielding staves is funny
severe robin
||hey is it true that if you fight the emperor at the begining of act 3 it's gam...
||In the fight where he reveals himself as an illithid? Yeah, technically. It doesn't make the Gith hostile, and if you kill them without killing Empy then it puts you in a dialogue where Emperor thanks you for seeing reason, and if you do bring him down to zero, he starts a dialogue where he says again he's the one protecting you, the narrator goes "Yeah he's protecting you" and you can choose to let him back up or kill him, and if you then choose to kill him yeah, it's game over.||
dawn valley
||In the fight where he reveals himself as an illithid? Yeah, technically. It do...
thanks 🙂
severe robin
Best part is, this is up to date as of, oh, last week? Cause I did it in game then!
simple spire
Spore druid dual wielding staves is funny
Wish there were more magic clubs and more magic staves geared for physical combat, though.
frigid oxide
Yeah
soft tundra
got the CLUB OF GAINS early on at least but i agree
frigid oxide
I just like beating the shit out of people as the Funny Mushroom Man
frigid oxide
Accurate
Me @ the entire duergar clan
My druid's name is cordyceps and he has a zombie buddy
soft tundra
i wanna be friends with cordyceps
frigid oxide
Are you a friend of nature
Enemies of nature are enemies of justice, bad and naughty adventurers get the Thagomizers
soft tundra
My favorite pc so far did start as a nature paladin!
soft tundra
They ended up oathbreaking but not due to any nature stuff, so they can still be Pals
winged vapor
You can always pay the tax
simple spire
Oh, question: Aura of Hate applies to undead and fiend enemies, right? How much of a pain is that in practice?
frigid oxide
Oathbreaking is just how you unlock the cool spells
simple spire
Okay but since I have no plans to go full evil, perhaps I will take a fighter level instead of Paladin 7
winged vapor
Honestly if you have the right gear and builds, undead are so easy
I wouldn’t worry
soft tundra
they are mostly an Act 2 problem
frigid oxide
Honestly same
I do not leave that place better than I found it
(except for Thaniel maybe)
severe robin
Trying out a Wild Magic Barbarian Karlach
storm sinew
Holy shit ||Ansur|| is hard.
Also I made Astarion mad by ||Killing Cazador|| and Orin killed ||Lae'zel||
Though the fight with Orin felt so... it felt really anti-climactic lmao?
safe jungle
I just beat ||ansur and Orin too haha||
safe jungle
Though the fight with Orin felt so... it felt really anti-climactic lmao?
I just used ||hold monster on her and blasted her with eldritch blasts||
So much for ||Bhall’s blessings, cousin||
Honestly hold monster and flesh to stone made a lot of climactic boss fights trivial
Gnomes screaming some|| nonsense about creating their greatest war machine ||and me noticing I have 90% chance to hold monster on it
storm sinew
Globe of Invulnerability is pretty busted too
storm sinew
||Ansur|| is dead. Also, I've encountered a bug where my EXP bar appears to be missing.
It just says "EXP to next level: 0" but keeps track of how much I have
but there's no actual bar
winged vapor
Small joke I tried today that I’m pretty sure works: ||if you cast silence of Raphael during his fight, his part in the theme song doesn’t happen anymore!||
storm sinew
I have learned that the reason my bar no longer exists is because 12 is the max level
interedasting
charred niche
12 being the max level I can understand for balance reasons but it kind of makes the enemies we face seem like wimps a little
neon junco
Also 7th level seem like a nightmare to implement for only a short part of the game
charred niche
Baldurs Gate should have to figure out what to do about 'Dream of the Blue Veil' like any other DM
frigid oxide
I simply refuse
charred niche
It should always be, truly a weird inclusion
'The main deal with Spelljammer, yeah we made that some spell you can get'
storm sinew
I have completed my first run.
||I made Karlach the Mind Flayer because it would stop her from exploding. I refused to let Gale detonate the orb, and I managed to save Shadowheart's Divine Intervention for when we were IN the Netherbrain's mind. ||
soft tundra
Baldurs Gate should have to figure out what to do about 'Dream of the Blue Veil'...
Easy, ban the spell
golden grotto
Holy shit ||Ansur|| is hard.
absolutely worth it though
the reward is ||balduran's giantslayer, what i used on my barbarian, made the final boss on normal a cakewalk||
grave prism
||Ansur was very funny in my playthrough cause me and my buddies fought him once to get an idea of what his fight was about and lost, then we reloaded and our paladin dropped like 400 damage on him in a single turn and he died like, the turn after that or something like that||
safe jungle
Me and the boys are gonna fuck you up
grave prism
the lads have hella dps
safe jungle
winged vapor
What’s a Good sorc armour for an urge run?
clear kestrel
Does the one from bard lady work for sorcerer
Of course you gotta do things differently to get it with durge
winged vapor
Yeah that’s my issue
clear kestrel
You can still get it
||knock her out before you go to camp and trigger the cut scene||
winged vapor
||She’s dead Jim||
clear kestrel
Ah you've already done it
winged vapor
Good to know though
clear kestrel
What's your thoughts on Karlash?
Cos ||you get robes for killer her for Mizora|| i think
And I think she's leaving you anyway
soft tundra
I like the early game resistance robes
winged vapor
Oh, I did not know that
clear kestrel
I've been told you need Wyll with you
Then kill, and get robes
+1 ac and fire resistance
winged vapor
That’s solid
Not sure about end game but I can always equip the helldusk
Thanks a bunch
safe jungle
I love the little oomfies in the temple of bhall
Crowding around displayed corpses and discussing finer points of murder methods as if Bhall cares
Bhall doesn’t give a shit if a kill is beautiful or not
Only its quantity
austere hinge
I like playing halflings, and I made one. So far the characters in my party aren't a big fan of me, but the only two who do like me are the old ladies in the tiefling area. I've also noticed that Aunty's race is "fae"
austere hinge
She LOVES me
there's a special halfling interaction with her where she gives you extra of whatever that drink she gives you is
I have found ||speak with dead amulet, I have speak with animals, and just learned detect thoughts. I'm a social machine.||
sly flare
Auntie Ethel is lovely
soft tundra
the companions warm up to you as you go through act 1; its hard to trust anyone at that stage
clear kestrel
Yeah they get arcs
safe jungle
Hmm
In the hands of a halfling
Does everyone count as a large target for ||Balduran’s|| greatsword?
soft tundra
it needs to be a Large creature, not larger, sadly
winged vapor
Random cool thingy, if you flurry of blows topple you will trigger sneak attack
Like as part of the attack
austere hinge
So here's a thing right.
I've just about met Wyll, and because of doing a thing off to the side I've just about hit level 3, so I've picked a bunch of cool stuff. I picked for Wyll to get that warlock ability of mage armour that they can just have, cause I'm going to have them as a semi-front liner, playing around behind Laez'el. Well in order to have mage armour working you need no armour worn. but taking off Wyll's armour now has him running around in his underpants...
winged vapor
That will happen
austere hinge
I'm not sure how to make him un-running around in his underpants
winged vapor
Change his underwear to someone’s who’s less silly ?
charred niche
There's outfits that don't count as 'armor', yeah
Gale kind of had a homeless cowboy aesthetic for a while for this reason
grave prism
you can also switch him to his non-combat clothes for the meanwhile?
silk dune
grave prism
if PC's can wear camp clothes in and out of combat i would imagine NPC's can too?
clear kestrel
I'm gonna need like an extra paragraph just describing what she's wearing
Then it'll be My Immortal
soft tundra
theres outfit toggles on the inventory screens
clear kestrel
Yas
silk dune
it's a true my immortal fic
so it's shadowheart x astarion but astarion is dating super cool student the dark urge and also everything else you could imagine in my immortal
clear kestrel
Huh, fairs
neon junco
Laezel is JROTC kid who takes it too seriously
safe jungle
True so she’s an uptight transfer student
neon junco
Laezel is canonically likely to be the class clown
She is self proclaimed considered extremely humourous among the gith
In gith school at least
soft tundra
very popular jock laezel
clear kestrel
Jaheria, prep?
neon junco
Jaheria is famous already so definitely prep even if not by choice
clear kestrel
Even the professors are preps or goths thou
grave prism
prep?
silk dune
duke ravengard is the headmaster
silk dune
He's prep
clear kestrel
prep?
Prep as in preppy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preppy#:~:text=Preppy (also%20spelled%20as%20preppie,or%20alumnus%20of%20these%20schools.
It's one of the very over used terms in My Immortal
clear kestrel
Well in my immortal, a goth
clear kestrel
Vampyre
neon junco
Astarion and Shadowheart
grave prism
i see i see
silk dune
Astarian
neon junco
Although shadowheart can become preppy goth if you romance her
grave prism
not sure if she's goth but she's definitely not prep
clear kestrel
Yeah she goth
neon junco
And then there's gale
charred niche
Gale's like 'Prep that dropped out of the college he bragged about, not sure what to do with himself now'
post-prep depressions
silk dune
No he's still prep
grave prism
gods i love how gaudy her wizard outfit looks
silk dune
You can't become a goth or prep
It's an immutable essence of you
You can only become a vampyre
Which is the super coolest thing ever
neon junco
Maybe you can't begins to study and get good grades furiously
charred niche
Prep with a patina, then
silk dune
This is my immortal
austere hinge
Oh! Another interesting halfling thing: laez'el insulted my nose.
silk dune
All logic should be left at the door
austere hinge
not sure if she does that to everyone but we were talking about races and not knowing each other's much and she was like "your nose is weird"
charred niche
She does have usual nose commentary but I am pretty sure shortfolk have some extra dialogue from her
silk dune
You should see what she says about dragonborn
simple spire
Doesn’t she like lust openly about them?
neon junco
Especially red dragonborn
simple spire
Fitting
neon junco
||I guess she doesn't want to be a Kith'rath dragon rider for no reason||
austere hinge
I love that there's halfling dialogue options that seem designed to piss her off
"we'll make no friends doing that" and she practically backflips into orbit
safe jungle
There’s extra epilogue for Lazhel ascension ritual now
It goes about as well as expected
storm sinew
damn it's REAL easy to break paladin oaths
severe robin
We have two Drow in my multiplayer game
One is a barely-contained mass murderer urging the others to kill everyone,
And the other is a Dark Urge
storm sinew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANR9Thx20zc&t=3s A compilation of the WORST choices in BG3 for those who can't stomach doing an evil run themselves
clear kestrel
Big Dan's videos tend to be pretty good
storm sinew
This is the only one I've seen so far
clear kestrel
They do a lot of similar stuff
Did a fair amount for mass effect back in the day
Like it's a lot of Top 10 X content things but they do their research and give opinions on why
bleak wagon
So I just finished my first play through and
||I found the Emperor's face-heel turn to joining the Elder Brain to be rather undeveloped. Though it was pretty funny when he taunted us about knowing all our thoughts and plans, and then we blew him up with a ton of explosives||
clear kestrel
Yeah that bit is a bit sudden
||Like, I get him turning against you||
||But I assumed he'd have another back up plan to be against you AND the brain||
||Like the classic, he shows up at the last second and tries to take the artefact from you, but then you'd need to explain how he's still benefitting from it's protection etc||
Had fun thou?
bleak wagon
Yeah, game is good
bleak wagon
I haven't done the epilogue yet, admittedly
soft tundra
So I just finished my first play through and
||I found the Emperor's face-heel t...
|| Were you on good terms with Emp? I find that being on bad terms with him has it make more sense cuz you learn more about his atrocities and how far he'll go for his goals even by spiting himself ||
clear kestrel
Oh yeah to be clear ||he's 100% a dick whose using you and only looking out for themselves||
But that doesn't make the ||turn to joining the brain super sensical||
bleak wagon
||we were on good terms||
clear kestrel
Did you find ||Ansur?||
bleak wagon
||there needed to be an explanation for how freeing Orpheus interferes with his plans... at all||
Yeah
bleak wagon
That wasn't super well established I feel
clear kestrel
||I dunno, he is a mind flayer, Orpehus won't work with one without killing them, even if it's you or himself||
bleak wagon
||he seemed perfectly ok with letting someone turn into a mind flayer and didn't try to kill them, at least pre-epilogue||
clear kestrel
||Huh, maybe I'm misremembering. But at least if he becomes one he ends his own life, I feel he wouldn't be okay with the person whose kept him imprisoned for ages||
||But fair that it could be clearer||
bleak wagon
I can see paths to it making sense, but it needed to be developed a bit more
clear kestrel
||Like, the way I see it, The Emperor, if you're on good terms, thinks they can control you. They can't control Opheus if they are freed cos he knows all the Emperors talk is BS||
bleak wagon
||Huh, maybe I'm misremembering. But at least if he becomes one he ends his own ...
||you get the choice to kill yourself if you become one instead||
bleak wagon
||Like, the way I see it, The Emperor, if you're on good terms, thinks they can ...
||I think if it was like free Orpheus -> he refuses to work with the Emperor -> he then gets netherbrained if you choose Orpheus, would have made things reasonably understandable||
clear kestrel
Yeah that'd make sense
And maybe ||you fight him then and there before he gets turned||
Or something
||Like he'd rather die trying to stop you than get brain controlled again||
But maybe he thought he could ||keep his independence somehow, he did once before||
bleak wagon
||that would make sense, or Orpheus revokes his protection and then he makes his mistake while mind controlled||
bleak wagon
But maybe he thought he could ||keep his independence somehow, he did once befor...
||though that's heavily implied to be him being outwitted by the brain||
soft tundra
i think something else relevant is that ||Emp is conflating Opheus/gith hatred of all mindflayers with hatred towards Emp specifically for keeping the shackles on, from my read on doing the ending a few times now||
||theres also a book right before your big netherbrain meeting that hints that everything Emp has done, even keeping you free, has been a calculated part of the Netherbrain's plan anyways, which i find interesting||
zealous shale
I have found stuff that indicates ||Emperor was working for the Brain the whole time, it was the Brain's plan to get a bunch of adventurers to steal the nether stones from the Chosen so that Brain can be freed. Emperor, and by extension You, are just pawns in that plan. Emp is just pretending to be free/on your side||
charred niche
If he had good intentions he would probably have a somewhat less imperialistic name
bleak wagon
||the Emperor was definitely part of the Netherbrain's plans, but the Emperor isn't pretending as he will help you kill it if you don't free orpheus||
||Will the Emperor destroy the Netherbrain if you ask him to? I can't find any videos of it lol||
safe jungle
||Yeah||
||Emperor is entirely okay with killing the netherbrain. What he wants is to be the king of his own faction of free mindflayers||
||He can't do that if he's under constant threat of being mind controlled by the netherbrain||
||Without the netherbrain he can start building his own empire of mindflayers||
soft tundra
Yeah, thats a few of my endings; ||he doesnt even seem to really care about making his own Empire, just being able to do his own shit being in charge of his crime operations or w/e. ||
||he seems to actually miss the good thing he had going pre-Gortash||
safe jungle
I think he only mentions creating ||a new illithid empire if you are also an illithid||
||so honestly I think him saying “I’m content with just being a crime lord” is a cover story||
Considering he also|| lied about not dominating the people he worked with in previous crime lord life||
soft tundra
||That's a fair reading! I see that one as opportunist, in the sense that 1 mindflayer is a crime lord, 2 mindflayers is the beginning of an empire, sort of thing||
im fascinated by him, he's a fun character
safe jungle
Yeah
He’s a pathological liar which makes getting a good read on him basically impossible
soft tundra
||Its interesting to compare him in his multiple facets; how he presents himself, how he tries to win you over / others over, what he might have been like while he was mortal and not a mindflayer and how much of that man still exists/lives on, etc||
these are all ending / act 3 spoilers, for folks seeing the spoiler tags, fwiw
clear kestrel
||imo he's super power hungry and very pro illithid. He just wants to be on top||
||you can push him far enough to say, do what I say or I'll kill you||
||and ansur shows the whole story||
zealous shale
||the biggest tell was when he was flirting hard with you, and the second you turn him down he acts like he was never flirting and the thought would never cross his mind. He is obviously just trying to use you, you are just a means to an end||
safe jungle
He only flirts with you if your relationship is bad
charred niche
Also just like ||Stelmane in general||
soft tundra
||Its pretty easy to miss that stuff if you get along with him, which I love||
charred niche
Honestly too real for manipulative people irl
zealous shale
||he acts like he has your best interests at heart, but only when what you're doing benefits him||
storm sinew
Is there a way to set the Githyanki dude free without ||ending the game||
severe robin
From the ||Astral Prism||?
storm sinew
Yee
storm sinew
Dope
winged vapor
Question about doing an urge playthrough, ||since you can easily recruit Minthra now (semi easy) would you suggest not destroying the grove or it’s worth it for the alternative route?||
soft tundra
How bad do you want to be?
For me it also depends on if youre romancing Minthara or not.
winged vapor
||The thing is, if you knock her out with non lethal she will appear at moonrise ||
soft tundra
I know, but you miss a big romance flag for her
clear kestrel
You miss out on more content by ||destroying the grove because several folks will leave you and the guys who die can't give you quests / items later||
But you get the extra content in return of ||that scene||
winged vapor
This is my second run so I’ve already done the original stuff, but I do know you miss a lot of important gear
Like, a lot
clear kestrel
Unless you're on like tactics or honor mode I wouldn't worry about gear tbh
winged vapor
Aren’t there some build defining things you miss out on ?
clear kestrel
Like yeah you miss out on good gear but the games still gonna be doable, it's not that hard
neon junco
But you get the extra content in return of ||*that scene*||
||that scene is so long it lasts like 3 times as long as other Romance options||
clear kestrel
You don't need meta builds on normal or easy mode imo
neon junco
I like durge destroy grove for like faster playthroughs
The quests given by the Grove npcs dont have too much variation besides they live or die
So once you've seen it you've pretty much seen it
winged vapor
Okay so for a quicker second run maybe I’ll go full evil
neon junco
And you still get xp for doing evil so you won't be under leveled
soft tundra
I think the big Durge question for rp choices is "am i trying to be redeemed"
neon junco
Yea durge is basically 2 playthrough of resist or give in
clear kestrel
Both are rewarding
neon junco
Evil is especially rewarding in game mechanically
clear kestrel
Resist gets a lot of good scenes thou I mean
winged vapor
Sounds good, thanks a bunch
clear kestrel
Like Resist isn't just Durge without the Durge
iron wren
What builds get overpowered early nowadays
clear kestrel
Tavern Brawler
rich plover
didn't it get nerfed, or is that only in Honor mode?
gaunt jackal
Only in Honour Mode
iron wren
Tavern Brawler
alas, i am intending to play honour mode
simple spire
Was the doubled strength mod nerfed in honour mode? I don’t see anything about that
bleak wagon
There is this undocumented change for it in patch 5
Tavern Brawler no longer creates a separate damage instance on throws.
soft tundra
Honor mode is pretty rough
Im crawling through act 2 slowly
I did half-orc rogue/bard to stay alive forever
I use rough here for "really fun but oh my god every encounter is terrifying"
gaunt jackal
Would you say Lore bard is worth it?
Lore Bard is cracked
Being able to retroactively modify enemy saves is not default 5e and it is so powerful
austere hinge
I have also been enjoying being able to just go "sure yes I can do these things" and slapping my hands against anything I come across.
Hitting level 3 and suddenly going from a +0 to a +4 in medicine because I decided to pick up prof and expertise in it at the same time is a hilarious boost.
I think I also saved someone's ass by uh...
||I found a bugbear assassin sneaking up on a tiefling lady and I panicked and ran just into iniative range. They then rolled dead on what they needed for a hit on the tiefling, and while I wasn't in line of sight properly yet since I'm a halfling, I yelled a swear word over the cliff edge and the bugbear missed||
soft tundra
Nice!
austere hinge
What Bard mode did you go for Murdoc?
soft tundra
Lore, for the skills, spells, and better use of my bardic insp dice
austere hinge
Heck yeah
grave prism
oh yeah
grave prism
i need to decide on a build for my next paythrough
clear kestrel
Is this your first playthrough?
soft tundra
The halvesies
austere hinge
For me yes
clear kestrel
Do you know how the reaction system in the game works?
Cos you may want to tweak it as a lore bard
austere hinge
I've just about gotten to the part with the ||Owlbear||
And I do not think I do no
clear kestrel
You can sorta toggle if the reactions are automatic or you choose
grave prism
i think the idea i had was to do multiclass wild magic sorc and wild magic barbarian
clear kestrel
Choose makes things a bit slower but gives you a tactical edge
As a lore bard you'll be using that one reaction they get all the time
austere hinge
Where do I make that change?
grave prism
thought i might try Divination Wizard and Lore Bard for the "i control the dice" build
austere hinge
Halfling Diviniation wizard and lore bard is incredibly control the dice
Thank you Rance ❤️
halfling rerolls nat 1s
grave prism
thought i might try Divination Wizard and Lore Bard for the "i control the dice"...
not me dropping in with both Portent and Cutting words
grave prism
Halfling Diviniation wizard and lore bard is incredibly control the dice
i'm going to be playing with mods for second playthrough so we will see what race i end up picking
soft tundra
Wizard+Bard is rough stats wise so good luck, grab those stat items
grave prism
yeah
not going to be superb but i think it could be very funny
thinking maybe a 3 bard 9 wizard split
austere hinge
Honestly if someone wants to go a full "I know everything" skill character a gith bard might be an idea. Since Gith can learn all skill of a certain stat, and Lore Bards get so many in general. So you can have your skills focused entirely on charisma, dex, or wisdom, and use your gith powers for intelligence.
soft tundra
Thats why im a rogue-bard
grave prism
coild maybe go for a 6 bard 6 wizard split
austere hinge
Ahhh yes
soft tundra
I have all the good skills
grave prism
though idk if that would work
austere hinge
Thief rogue?
grave prism
cause you get extra portents as a divination wizard at lvl 6
soft tundra
Wizard 2 Bard 10 is my vote
grave prism
probably a solid idea
austere hinge
Can you Barbarian Druid and just turn into a very angry bear?
soft tundra
Just take support spells that dont use intelligence
grave prism
conceptually enjoy multiclassing but it gets kinda difficult to balance it so you don't hamper either class
neon junco
I did thief rogue 3 for my xbow swords bard and enjoyed all the proficiencies
grave prism
and so you become strong enough by endgame
i mean my current character is technically a multiclass for all that singular sorc level matters
austere hinge
Love me some proficiencies
soft tundra
Dips are easy, bigger multiclassing is rough and usually bad
grave prism
i had a level of fighter for most of the game to get armor and weapon proficiencies
grave prism
Dips are easy, bigger multiclassing is rough and usually bad
yeah
austere hinge
What race was your thief rogue Sevens?
neon junco
Gith
austere hinge
VERY skilled them, with their ability
soft tundra
Gith is so silly
neon junco
Yes it was primary bard so she was the face
Dual xbows with sharpshooter is bonkers considering the ranged flourish and bonus action attacks with extra attack
Basically eldritch blast machine gun except you're a full caster and more damage
grave prism
i might do human fighter for the meme
soft tundra
Battlemaster disarm is ridiculously strong
neon junco
It is
soft tundra
Half my honor mode strat has been Big Disarm
neon junco
Wish they made champion fighter stronger
austere hinge
Champion fighter is pretty much the simplest of simples
and it's like... alright?
But they kept it a little too close to book
neon junco
It's a little better than 5e since jump is good but not that good since there's a ton of movement items
soft tundra
My vote in EA was to give it better shove/jumps and such but alas
austere hinge
I turned my Lae'zel Battle Master but she's more of a commander/tank type, at least how I'm building
neon junco
But they kept it a little too close to book
Meanwhile Tavern Brawler
austere hinge
I haven't seen Tavern Brawler in action but I should check it out honestly
neon junco
Its extremely good for either throwing build or unarmed
soft tundra
Its goofy silly
austere hinge
I wasn't sure to make a talky character or a brick for my first character
I pretty much decided to go talky so I could see (and stream) as much different stuff as possible
gaunt jackal
Battlemaster was already the best Fighter archetype and they made it even better
Kinda nuts
neon junco
Same with open hand monk
grave prism
kinda want to just get like, max amounts of attacks per turn
soft tundra
I always like to encourage folks to do at least one Paladin run, i think they get very fun options and a chance to meet the coolest npc ever
grave prism
become multiattack sword gremlin
grave prism
my friends challenged me to play as a good alignment character also
since they don't think i can
so i might go with that
i respect you Mr Original Oathbreaker
grave prism
the gods most unhinged blorbo is what i've been playing
Ms. Kharalathri "i eat brains" Khemmeri
neon junco
Be a paladin without breaking your oath at least once challenge (impossible)
storm sinew
grave prism
our Paladin has only broken his oath like once just to check if it would actually happen
austere hinge
Does it warn you that doing the action will break your oath?
neon junco
No
clear kestrel
You'll know if you broke it thou
grave prism
his oath is still unbroken since we reloaded
clear kestrel
It's a whole thing
grave prism
so he has yet to break his oath canonically in our playthrough
soft tundra
A really cool thing
grave prism
it is cool from what i know
bleak wagon
How reasonable/obvious are the things that count as breaking oaths
soft tundra
I've added him to my home games
clear kestrel
It's pretty reasonable
soft tundra
You get your oath tenants so dont break em
grave prism
yeah
austere hinge
An interesting thing I've found playing as a halfling, sometimes there are small crevices that appear to only be available to me. The entire party splits if I use the small holes and I wind up wiggling into places.
neon junco
How reasonable/obvious are the things that count as breaking oaths
It leans a little on the lawful good stereotypes even when I was playing ancients
grave prism
it tells you "this is the list of rules you follow" and then if you break the rules you, you know, break the oath
clear kestrel
I've done a reist durge run and have not yet broken it
clear kestrel
An interesting thing I've found playing as a halfling, sometimes there are small...
Works for druid transformations into small things to
soft tundra
An interesting thing I've found playing as a halfling, sometimes there are small...
You can also shrink people with spells!
neon junco
And gaseous form
grave prism
everyone in our party has the shapeshifting hat so we just used that to get into tight spaces
austere hinge
I just love that it's like "ah yes shapeshifting and shrinking and druid transformations" and my true power is being a short arse
clear kestrel
Ah yes the faceripper
clear kestrel
I just love that it's like "ah yes shapeshifting and shrinking and druid transfo...
It's called natural talent
soft tundra
True Strength: 3ft Tall
bleak wagon
it tells you "this is the list of rules you follow" and then if you break the ru...
Oh, I know there are tenants. I just don't generally have high trust in game devs to be reasonable able it lol
neon junco
Larian can't get over the face ripper
grave prism
i do love the face ripper
neon junco
Fane my beloved
soft tundra
Larian did a good job with them imo
neon junco
I always grab his painting in the game to keep
grave prism
our Paladin cosplayed as a githyanki for a while to get the racial bonuses for his ||legendary astral sword||
soft tundra
What is a face ripper
austere hinge
It rips faces
soft tundra
I didn't play divinity2
austere hinge
(I do not know)
grave prism
it does yeah
neon junco
It's the shapeshiftinf mask that lets you change race temporarily
neon junco
You don't get benefits I believe but the dialogue options only
bleak wagon
Oathbroken Paladins still have a bunch of power right? It's more a shift in abilities than a loss right?
grave prism
you use it to rip peoples faces off and make a mask of shapeshifting
neon junco
Yea the mask of shapeshifting in divinity is made with faces ripped off from a face ripper
soft tundra
Ooo
grave prism
and yeah the actual item in BG3 is the Mask of the Shapeshifter
soft tundra
Neat
neon junco
That's the form you're taking is of dead people's faces who got ripped off
bleak wagon
Disguise self effects give you the racial dialogue options, usually gives you access to race restricted item buffs and lets you do funny things because people won't know who you are
Excellent for crimes or speaking to dead people you murdered
grave prism
yeah shapeshifting is really good
soft tundra
Speak with Dead is awesome
grave prism
my party got way more use out of speak with animals
neon junco
I wish I could change my race in the mirror cause I was making a gith warlock and saw for some reason it showed medium armor proficiency even after switching to Tiefling in character creation and I make her a Tiefling believing warlock gave medium admoru
grave prism
mostly cause we just didn't use speak with dead much lol
austere hinge
I wish I could cast speak with dead and speak with animals to talk to the dead fish all over the docks
neon junco
I wish I could cast speak with dead and speak with animals to talk to the dead f...
Talk to the pigs head in yohr camp supplies before you eat it
soft tundra
The game throws so much Speak w/ Dead at you its nice
austere hinge
I have speak with animals, the amulet for speak with dead, and detect thoughts on my bard. I have so many words.
neon junco
And speak with animals too
Speak with animals is a must cause of Strange Ox is a bro
He's ride or die if you talk to him correctly
austere hinge
The strange ox pretty much is refusing to talk to me now I think I spoke wrong to him
soft tundra
Us 🤝Ox
grave prism
The game throws so much Speak w/ Dead at you its nice
unfortunately for the game my character is a lunatic
austere hinge
I tried to intimidate them and I'm guessing that's wrong
grave prism
i have no need to speak to the dead
bleak wagon
Strange ox did not communicate his situation well to me ||those image flashes did not give the impression he intended them to||
grave prism
i am the one MAKING the dead
i don't need to speak with them cause i already know what they are about
austere hinge
I did get Us, and I didn't maim them
neon junco
I love if the corpse refuses to speak to you vcause you killed them you can shape change to talk to them
grave prism
yeah lmao
neon junco
Oh hello I am stranger who wants to speak to you my good corpse not at all affiliated with your murderer
neon junco
Oh did you in act 2 ||free him from the cage||
austere hinge
It happens, and I asked
neon junco
Your actions has consequences (good one this time)
austere hinge
I don't mind little things as long as it's not like "oh yeah this giant thing in the plot that happens".
soft tundra
I hope youre having a good time
austere hinge
But yeah, I'm still in Act 1
neon junco
What'd you roll as a character
austere hinge
Halfling Lore Bard
neon junco
Lore bard my third favorite beloved spellcaster behind fiend warlock and storm sorcerer
austere hinge
I recently met two cultists and convinced them that I was indeed a chosen one or whatever, then took them to the ownbear cave and surprisingly didn't get them killed while we took down the owlbear
I then just told them to wander around a bit
neon junco
Wow surprisingly usually if you choose the wrong dialogue they'll be hostile and like all but one of their dialogue will cause them to be hostile
soft tundra
Local Halfling Hero
austere hinge
Really? Maybe it's because I chose performance and everything but they really trusted me super hard.
I led them to fight the owlbear and we came out on top.
neon junco
Also bard dialogue options are fun
soft tundra
Being nice always pays off as long as youre not named Wyll
austere hinge
It's hilarious when you get combo ones like bard/persuasion and halfling/bard
Basically the game going "you fucked up little gremlin, you get to say the special thing"
And that usually pisses off Lae'zel really really hard
specially if you're a halfling
soft tundra
Laezel just doesn't appreciate your helpful time-wasting shes a grad student on the move
austere hinge
"Oh we won't be making many friends if you keep acting like that" shot her into the stratosphere and her eyes did not stop rolling.
And she called my nose blobby and weird
austere hinge
Oh I know, I'm actually attempting to aim for her liking me eventually but it's also really fun to piss her off
soft tundra
The funniest laezel fact i learned was that she was the class clown of her creche
austere hinge
Considering so far all I've heard about form other Gith is them gutting people on sight
How I see her is basically, Lae'zel is female Saltzpyre
"wow this person is terrible" says us, an outsider who has never experienced how bad the rest of their lot can be
neon junco
Oh you will eventually experience other gith
austere hinge
I'm looking forward to it. In the same way someone who's slammed their hand in a car door looks forward to their blackened nail falling out so the pain stops.
neon junco
The funniest laezel fact i learned was that she was the class clown of her crech...
She gave us a chance after we helped her which is more merciful than most gith who'd just tryt to kill us afterwards
She's basically the funny nice girl of the gith
austere hinge
yeah female saltzpyre
which says a lot about me that my first instinct is "i'm going to date that" and "I'm going to piss them off so much"
neon junco
That's the right approach for everyone but karlach and wyll basically
Astarion, gale, shadowheart, and laezel all need a reality check
austere hinge
yeah I noticed Wyll is just way too straightforward a nice guy
neon junco
Hes a plain hero character but later on his quest and the circumstances surrounding him is very interesting
grave prism
yeah
austere hinge
He is also walking around my game in his underwear
neon junco
He also I believe had a huge rework just before launch