#Baldur's Gate 3

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dawn terrace
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Your dragon puberty happened.

stray basalt
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nooo they fixed the stealth combat opening not consuming the action

grave prism
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||She made my characters blood explosive :D|| (Act 3 spoiler)

soft tundra
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failing the check to do this is hilarious, btw

stray basalt
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Lmao the Act 2 ||Spirit judging guy - got into a fight with him, he shouted "You have been judged and found wanting!" and proceeded to... fail to frighten me

My Pally loads up a Divine Smite - "No sir, you have been judged!" - and bonked him down to... 1hp nanikore ||

iron wren
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Lmao noooooo

stray basalt
last idol
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There's only 1 hit point that matters

stray basalt
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Ah it was more "spot the sneak attack range rogue"

soft tundra
dawn terrace
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The Nere Paladin dialog options go hard.

clear kestrel
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So does the bard one

frigid oxide
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Anybody else struggling with sliders in character creation after the last patch or

dawn terrace
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They nerfed Lae'zel just like they nerfed Gale, killing the funniest speedrunning category ever.

severe robin
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?

clear kestrel
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I imagine they fixed some glitch used in speedrunning

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You used to kill Gale, throw their corpse in a box, then glitch travel into the finale of ||act 2 and endthe game there||

stray basalt
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Lae'zel's one was the sex% speedrun

clear kestrel
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Ah yeah they changed her romance stuff

stray basalt
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you need to prove yourself instead of just having enough approval

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or something

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this doesn't really change much for me as I've not yet had a Lae'zel make it to Act 2 lul

clear kestrel
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Makes sense in char to

stray basalt
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so I equipped my dual-wielding ranger with hand crossbows too

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and it's every bit as brutal

soft tundra
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Lae'zel is SO COOL you gotta experience act 3 lae'zel at least once

grave prism
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yeah her storyline is amazing

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it was kinda hampered a bit by the fact that my paladin stole all her stuff in the nautiloid and uh, we're a 4 stack so she's been butt naked for the whole game

soft tundra
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in solo play she has a lot of fun dialogue for a lot of the Situations, and i enjoy her banter with the others, particularly Gale

wind tendon
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laezel is just a horse girl for red dragons

tired nova
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huh if you start as laezel you get a random gith on the ship

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cute

clear kestrel
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I think if you start as Shadowheart there's a thing like that to

dawn terrace
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No, just checked.

clear kestrel
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Huh, my bad

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Whose in the room where she normally is, no one?

dawn terrace
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Yep, pod's just empty

dawn terrace
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I find it really funny that the first of bard dialogue option when talking to Volo about ||the Goblins is correct. The goblins are the unknownig vanguards of an illithid invasion.||

severe robin
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Don't you hate it when you're trying to get the permanent +1 from the hag, but you accidentally crit her with a scorching ray for 30 damage, instantly killing her?

dawn terrace
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Yeah, for some reason on my paladin she didn't want to talk to Karlach or Astarion, so I kept having to reload a quicksave I made

tired nova
grave prism
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Lmao

frigid oxide
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Karlach is my favorite battle buddy

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Twin barbarian pincer strike is amazing

safe jungle
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“What the!! It burns!!!”

K: “WHAT THE HELLS DID YOU EXPECT?!”

severe robin
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How do you make a Warlock using a Pact weapon use Charisma instead of Strength for their attacks?

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Oh, nevermind, I think I've got it now

silk dune
clear kestrel
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GOTY award retracted

frigid oxide
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I remember seeing that mod lmao

soft tundra
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theyve been slowly making them for everyone

stray basalt
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is this memeing on the Handsome Astarion one?

neon junco
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I like the handsome shart one

severe robin
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:(

frigid oxide
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:(?

severe robin
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It's horrible

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I wish to excise this sight from my memory

soft tundra
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understandable

frigid oxide
severe robin
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Yo my monk is fuckin cracked

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I just did like, half of Anders health in a single turn

neon junco
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Playing regular monk or str monk?

severe robin
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Regular Dex

neon junco
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Monk does have a ton of really nice magic item that way

severe robin
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Only got 10 STR, actually

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15 Wis tho

neon junco
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I'm glad they didn't leave monk in the dust cause it doesn't wear regular armor

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Enchanted clothing can get so good

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Which subclass did you choose?

severe robin
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Just picked Way of Shadow

neon junco
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Oh nice, I like that one as "I'm you (rogue) but better"

rich plover
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Gradually making progress in multiplayer. I finally have a second crossbow, but I haven't gotten to use it because I spent the entire harpy fight charmed...

dawn terrace
soft tundra
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ooo stickers

safe jungle
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I’ll turn myself into stickers

quartz mango
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Since finishing the game I've been listening to the soundtrack on repeat. The Power is damn good at evoking nostalgia for a game I literally just played.

clear kestrel
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That box looks good

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Assuming it's good quality

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Would of been nice to get some dice or a GM screen or something though

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I know not everyone who is buying this would use them, but the same can said for stickers, patches, poster, worldmap etc

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And it'd be cool to have

soft tundra
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a set of the orange larian dice in game would be cool

misty light
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Hey there, just wanted to check really quick, because I haven't actually played BG3: is there any negative mechanical consequence to ||partaking of extra tadpoles?|| Party members agreeing or disagreeing with the choice to do so doesn't count.

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I'm following Matt Colville's advice and designing my own take on it for fun but he had all these wild suggestions for what it could be doing but when I went online people said ||there are no consequences.|| But I wanted a second opinion.

grave prism
last idol
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I think it also ||increases the DC of the check to avoid going half-Illithid||

misty light
misty light
misty light
grave prism
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||i have yet to complete a run so i am unsure about the specifics, but i am certain it does add some new dialogues, since i had the option to goad companion NPC's into taking tadpoles after i took a few, so it must have some dialogue affects.||

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||i was however unable to actually do this since i am in a party of 4 players and thus do not have access to companion content|<||

grave prism
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||i didn't want to mention it but since you already know, there is, later in the game, the opportunity to unlock the locked Illithid abilities in the ability menu, however this does have some pretty significant changes to both character and gameplay||

safe jungle
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||Appearance wise anyways||

misty light
safe jungle
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||I’m not actually sure there’s lasting consequence||

misty light
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Well, thank you for telling me, that's helpful.

grave prism
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||Same, to be blunt, the consequence i assume occurs is metamorphosis into a Ceremorph, which i consider to be pretty fucking significant. However the baseline effects that accepting the astral tadpole cause are as follows: You become half Ceremorph which changes your appearance, your companions will react negatively to you, you will unlock the ability to fly permanently, and you gain access to the previously locked abilities in the tadpole menu, which are very powerful abilities such as shapeshifting into a displacer beast among other things||

white sleet
grave prism
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||I do not know as to the level that Companions will react negatively as i have not had experience with it myself, as mentioned i am in a 4 player game||

white sleet
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||negative reactions are basically just one Dislike ping that was easy enough to mitigate IME||

grave prism
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||I also have yet to finish the game so i am unsure if becoming half Illithid/Ceremorph has any consequences aside from making you look kinda fucked up and a bit evil||

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||I also think it makes your character look kinda ugly which is the only reason i did not end up becoming half Ceremorph/Illithid||

white sleet
grave prism
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hope that information helped anyhow

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feel free to ping me if you need any more information, i can do my best to help

misty light
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This was enormously helpful and it's all I think I needed, thank you so much! ||This makes Matt Colville's video just... enormously funny.||

grave prism
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great stuff, glad to hear it

clear kestrel
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Source I've done playthoughs with and without

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Exception with two major choices late in the game but I think others have already mentioned them

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The ||astral|| tadpole and ||choosing to go full mindflayer||

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But those are sign posted in game imo

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If it helps, you will not feel weaker without it either

misty light
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Yeah I was expecting a fantasy version of Cyberpsychosis--which I realized recently is basically the curse from Princess Mononoke.

soft tundra
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It'll also affect ||your relationship with your Guardian and how they talk to you in acts 2/3, but its minor changes||

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if that hadnt been mentioned

severe robin
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New playthrough go!

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Still never made it to Act 2 lmao

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But I am very cute

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Or, y'know, maybe not...

severe robin
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Jesus christ what the fuck is happening in this game

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every save I roll is coming up Nat 1

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The enemy is critting every other attack

severe robin
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By Desna I did it

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I cleared out the Duegar camp, after entering it at like, half health and with no short rests remaining, and saved the trapped gnome.

simple spire
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Hm. Barbarian 5/Thief Rogue 3/Battlemaster Fighter 4. Berserker or Bearheart for the Barbarian subclass?

frigid oxide
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Bear is nice

last idol
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Berserker with Thief is fun in concept but the penalties stack up fast

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Kind of painful going Wildheart and not getting Aspect of the Stallion to go with Thief though

soft tundra
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Bear is just so good, especially if you grab the perm psychic resistance you can get

last idol
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You could consider respeccing down to Thief 4/Fighter 2 so you could get that in, because free temp hp each turn is fantastic

white sleet
severe robin
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I am horribly sad

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Somebody tore my eye out

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They gave me a replacement but...

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It doesn't look as pretty as my other eye plsno

frigid oxide
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Was it ||granny||?

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Because I go out of my way to do that

severe robin
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Nah, ||Volo||

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What does ||Granny|| give you in return?

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I got a pretty cool ||permanent See Invisibility|| from the replacement

soft tundra
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outside of rp purposes, its much less worth it imo: ||you get Intimidation bonus, but disadvantage on Perception and problems fighting hags||

severe robin
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Also, one thing that's kinda annoying

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Longstrider

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Ritual spell, lasts until long rest

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Gotta cast it on each person individually 😔

soft tundra
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Whats that give you, extra 3m movement?

severe robin
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Yeah

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When you get to higher levels it becomes less bad cause you can upcast it as a ritual to target multiple people at once,

last idol
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Wait, you can? Wow, that'd have saved me so much time if I'd known

severe robin
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Hmmm

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I'm looking good

frigid oxide
white sleet
severe robin
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Incorrect

white sleet
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But the hat

severe robin
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It is a very cute hat

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I'm a Warlock

soft tundra
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very cute warlock hat

severe robin
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Despair

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I want Lae'zel to be a polearm fighter, but I just learned about the really cool Githyanki-only greatsword

soft tundra
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its so cool

severe robin
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Well

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I didn't actually take polearm master yet, just Sentinel

soft tundra
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my 2 cents is that respeccing is really easy in bg3, so go ahead and give her that polearm, and then switch her when you get the cool swords

severe robin
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Er

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I have the cool sword, I want a cool polearm

soft tundra
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ooo

severe robin
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Eh, Sentinel's not that bad to have with a Greatsword anyway I don't think so 🤷‍♀️

soft tundra
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its a good feat

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especially with how good Laezels jumps are

severe robin
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Or I could find a cool halberd leaning against the wall...

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Wooo level 7!

simple spire
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If you use it while wearing the Sparkswall ring (also from the Arcane Tower), it can't stun you

severe robin
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Nah, didn't want to kill the friendly robit

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Githyanki Creche: Completed

simple spire
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Also, on analysis, this barbarian doesn't actually need more than one feat, so Wildheart Barb 6/Thief Rogue 3/Battlemaster Fighter 3 should work well

last idol
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Pogo Barbarian

simple spire
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In theory I could drop Fighter to 2 and take Rogue to 4 for +1 AC and a bit of extra hp, but I think Battlemaster is probably more valuable to pick up

severe robin
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Question for a friend:

How long does the game take to beat, roughly?

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Assuming a first playthrough, taking your time to look around and finish all the quests in an act before moving to the next one

clear kestrel
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Maybe like 60 hours?

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Could be closer to 100 though

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Depends how you go about it

severe robin
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ty

severe robin
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Whew

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Just did the (Act 2 Spoilers)||protecting Halsin's portal|| fight

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Wall of Fire's pretty nice

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Probably didn't need to use all my third level spell slots on Fireball, but I guess it's too late to go back now

clear kestrel
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Oh it's a fun fight, go all out on spells

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You can always rest

severe robin
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I just did a Wall of Fire and Hunger of Hadar at the chokepoint and watched as like, half of the enemies ran in and died

clear kestrel
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You got spirit guardians?

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Aoe damage around you

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Moves as you move

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Run around the battlefield, everyone dies

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  • you are the choke point now
severe robin
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Nah, don't got a Cleric in the party

last idol
clear kestrel
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Yeah 60 was probably too low a guess

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Around 100 is better

last idol
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Yeah, 100 is probably a safe estimate, adjusted up/down depending on if they're skipping anything/being particularly thorough

last idol
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You shall not pass

severe robin
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Damn, Hunger of Hadar kinda fucks

last idol
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The best part of Hunger of Hadar is it counters the scariest enemy spell in the game:

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Hunger of Hadar

severe robin
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And I'm a Warlock so it's on a short rest

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And I don't even cast any other spells anyways lol

last idol
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It's also at the perfect level for Warlock multiclasses

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You take 5 levels to get your upgraded pact boon and also Hunger of Hadar

severe robin
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I'm going full lock, cause I personally am not fond of multiclassing

last idol
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That's entirely fair

severe robin
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But, I rescued Thaniel

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And now it's time to sleep, and tomorrow I'll be off to Moonrise

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(Er, in game)

last idol
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I was wondering lol

white sleet
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Aurora is gonna get kidnapped irl

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All accordion to keikaku

severe robin
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Noooooo

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I found a magic helmet that's really useful

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But I can't wear it and my cute pointy hat at the same time

last idol
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Truly the worst part of the Warlock experience

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At least you can hide the hat and Warlocks get nice robes

clear kestrel
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The hat could be for camp

last idol
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Or just run around in camp clothes all the time

clear kestrel
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If it fits that slot

last idol
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I don't think the witch hats do, sadly

white sleet
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Bg3 needs glamouring

last idol
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It really does

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Being able to use camp clothes instead is a nice option but there's a lot of armor that's good fashion

clear kestrel
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I think we'll get it in like a remaster

last idol
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(Also there's some annoying bugs with light sources and camp clothes)

clear kestrel
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The system basically already exists with camp clothes

safe jungle
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I love hunger of hadar

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It makes enemy spellcaster and ranged units so helpless

last idol
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Bonus points if you have a Barbarian (and potion or caster with Enlarge)

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When they eventually struggle to the edges just toss them right back into the center

safe jungle
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That’s what I do

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I don’t think enlarge actually allows you to throw people you can’t usually throw

misty light
white sleet
severe robin
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New hat

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Took me 20 minutes to determine if it was worth it

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Hm

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Wondering about my odds of taking down all of Moonrise

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Ah, I should deal with Thorm first

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I need to reload a bit back sadcowboy

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I kissed Wyll and now I think the game thinks he's my romance but I want Karlach

rich plover
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In theory I don't think the game stops you from having multiple partners? Something like, most companions aren't poly and will ask you to commit if you're dating more than one?

severe robin
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Maybe, but honestly it wasn't that much lost progress, and I don't wanna risk it

rich plover
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Who amongst us wouldn't skip an awkward relationship talk by rewinding time

severe robin
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Tieflings: saved

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Got a pretty fuckin neat robe out of it too

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Does it make CHA apply to my Eldritch blasts twice, now?

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Looks like it does, actually

white sleet
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Yep

last idol
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Yep, welcome to the best Warlock item in the game

severe robin
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What the fuck?

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Come on game

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I walk into a room with my entire party

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Who enters the conversation?

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Literally everyone except for me, the person who actually has a Charisma score

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I'm actually fucking pissed at that

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I should take a break I'm starting to get upset...

simple spire
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Question: does the two-handed weapon fighting style reroll affect dice from divine smite?

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Hm, checked the wiki, looks like the answer is yes

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That’s pretty slick

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Defense still might be worth more, tho …

charred niche
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But which is more fun, this is the true path

grave prism
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the funniest thing for me was cosplaying a fighter for 90% of our run in BG3

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the party Warlock dripped out in heavy armor and a greatsword

simple spire
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I’m running a Pallock

grave prism
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nice

simple spire
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Oathbreaker

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For maximum bullshit

grave prism
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yeah i just had 1 level in fighter for heavy armor and weapon prof.

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i also had heavy armor mastery and defensive fighting

simple spire
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Yeah, I started Paladin for the same reason

grave prism
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i respecced at around lvl 12 so now i have 1 level in Sorc instead which is fucking hilarious

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because

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i did not have any draconic blood and now i do

simple spire
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But I should be getting level 2 in Paladin soon

grave prism
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and i still get the Draconic Bloodline options for talking

simple spire
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Hence decision

grave prism
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so Withers just added a bit of funny dragon spice to my DNA i guess

severe robin
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Ugh

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The "You cannot use this ability outside of combat" abilities are annoying

grave prism
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yes

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yes they are

severe robin
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What if I want to Rage before I ambush someone?

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Or, in this specific case: use Psionic Overload to guarantee the kill on a very scary enemy I'm attacking from stealth

charred niche
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They also decided some things are like one-a-day and it feels arbitrary

severe robin
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Like Mage Hand?

charred niche
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That made me so sad

severe robin
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(Yes I know that's technically once a short rest, but what the fuck anyways?)

charred niche
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like it's not that overpowered a cantrip, did they fear it'd break some puzzles or something

severe robin
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They did so much good stuff, that it makes the "Why would you do this?" decisions so much worse

charred niche
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Open Hand Monk receives gifts from heaven, Four Elements remains.. well

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It got a lil ki regen I think

severe robin
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Sorry I just looked at Open Hand Monk

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Bro what?

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This looks fuckin dope

charred niche
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Yeah it was a lovely surprise for leveling up ngl

severe robin
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I might respec into it, actually...

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Well, I'll play Shadows until I get to the cool Shadows stuff first

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(And also this is a Multiplayer game so)

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Also: the Yurgir fight

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Man, this one's kinda brutal

grave prism
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Yurgir is, certainly one of the fights of all time

simple spire
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Open Hand monk is quite strong

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Especially strength monk

severe robin
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Wait...

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Hang on...

simple spire
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With thief

severe robin
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I just realised something

simple spire
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Two flurries in a round 4/per short rest is a hell of a thing

severe robin
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So, I have Psionic Overload, the one that makes you do +1d4 psychic damage per attack but take 1d4 psychic every round

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I'm a Warlock with the Potent Robe. I gain 4 temp HP at the start of every turn

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I basically don't take any damage from Psionic Overload

simple spire
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Yeah you’ll be fine

severe robin
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So, Strength Monk: why? What's so special about it?

simple spire
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Tavern Brawler

soft tundra
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Theres a silly math interaction with the feat Tavern Brawler

severe robin
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Ah, they changed that one

simple spire
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It doubles your Str bonus to attack with unarmed strikes

severe robin
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Yeah, I can start to see it

charred niche
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It's broke

severe robin
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Combine it with being able to shove, and the ludicrous mobility monks get

soft tundra
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I will say, trying both, its largely unnecessary overkill, but it is fun.

severe robin
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Does STR monk lose out on any particularly great magic items?

simple spire
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No

soft tundra
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Depends on if youre using items to raise stats, but thats part of what makes it work

simple spire
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If anything, you start Fighter 1 and get heavy armor and shields

soft tundra
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Since theres items that set your STR/DEX to high values so you can dump them in respecs

severe robin
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Actually, where do you find those items?

simple spire
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The one for Dex is in the Gith creche

soft tundra
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An early str one is in the underdark mage tower

simple spire
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You can’t use that one with unarmed strikes tho

soft tundra
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You can!

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The bonus action ones

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:)

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Its absurd damage

simple spire
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Or you just run it with heavy armor and have better AC and itemization anyway >_>

charred niche
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this game does not need to be optimized so hard lmao

soft tundra
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i hate multiclassing so i enjoy the Stool

simple spire
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It doesn’t need to be but I find it fun

charred niche
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it felt judgemental idk

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'why would you build something the WRONG way when stats could be higher'

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ok

grave prism
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even playing on tactician, you don't need to optimize much if you don't want to

soft tundra
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But yes you can do the strength club on a monk and benefit from it for jump distance, offhand attacks like Flurry, and shoving and carrying items

grave prism
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though our party has partially done it and we kinda breeze through most our encounters once we get into a flow

severe robin
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Oh boy time to (I assume) fight

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What's his name

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Starts with a B

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Bartholemew?

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Baltizaar?

simple spire
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In Act 2?

severe robin
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Yeah

simple spire
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The guy with the undead servants?

severe robin
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Also, I am doing this temple without Shadowheart

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Because, well,

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I just kinda don't wanna take her in my party

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It's got a good comp, y'know?

severe robin
simple spire
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Minor temple spoilers you may want to know ||You should bring her along before the end if you want to keep her||

severe robin
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I...

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Kind of don't really care?

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Not this playthrough, at least

simple spire
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Okay! Just thought that deserved a warning

severe robin
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Thank you for the warning

severe robin
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Ah

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Okay

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So it's going to be like that, is it?

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(I started the fight and got fucking instantly killed from full health by a single attack from him, after he rolled to go first)

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Motherfucker's rolling double the initiative of anyone in my party

charred niche
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They changed initiative for BG3

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Dex and any bonuses to init way more dramatic 'cause there's no d20, it's a d4

severe robin
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Yeah

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And he has a 13 dex, allegedly

charred niche
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:|a must just have innate buffages

severe robin
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Oops

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I fucked up

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Oh that's not good...

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I messed up with the spells I had prepared on Gale, but really don't want to reload cause I got good initiative this time...

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Well, I can haste Karlach at least

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Hmm...

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Lotta guys this fight, and I don't have fireball prepped...

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Okay, question

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How do you counter Sleep?

charred niche
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Be Elf, but otherwise depends on the source I guess.. just Sleep the spell?

severe robin
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Yeah

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It's kinda hard to avoid not having low hit points when this asshole does fucking 40 damage turn 1, so

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Ok, I reloaded and I have a new, improved plan

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The plan did not work.

soft tundra
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Help action for Sleep

severe robin
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That doesn't really help much, honestly

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When initiative looks like 1,2,3,enemy that casts sleep,4, and also they can just instantly shut down concentration with it

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I did manage to kill Balthazar turn one this time though

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I do not like this fight.

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It feels intensely unfair

soft tundra
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Do you have any sources of aoe radiant damage in the party?

severe robin
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Massively so, actually

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No.

soft tundra
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ah

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that'll do it

severe robin
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I just had two party members instantly killed by being pushed into a chasm

soft tundra
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like, Shadowheart cleric solos that one, in a sense

severe robin
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I can't even position myself to avoid that because I have a like, 5 foot outcrop I can be in that starts the fight if I leave, and this motherfucker has a bigger initiative bonus than half my party combined

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I don't even really see how aoe radiant damage would help?

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Like, none of them have vulnerability to it, or even resistance to anything else

soft tundra
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Turn Undead into Spirit Guardians make short work of undead crowds in act 2

#

its not about vulnerability so much as most of them have to come into melee to threaten you

last idol
#

Turn Undead Into Spirit Guardians is my favorite spell /j

soft tundra
#

and spirit guardians fucks that over hard

severe robin
#

It's just the fact that it's an atrocious position combined with a guy who can instakill any member of my party goes guaranteed first

soft tundra
#

Which guy is instakilling you?

severe robin
#

Balthazar

soft tundra
#

I don't recall anyone but Balth hims- yeah okay

severe robin
#

Instakill is a bit of an overexaggeration

last idol
#

IIRC the Elixir of Alertness or whatever it's called is quite nice for just dropping a Hunger of Hadar on him before he can do anything

soft tundra
#

do you have any Counterspell users?

severe robin
#

He brings anybody down to single digit hitpoints

last idol
#

The one that gives +5 to initiative

severe robin
#

I actually managed to Hunger of Hadar and kill him round one

last idol
#

Elixir of Vigilance*

severe robin
#

Half my party immediately got pushed into the chasm and instantly died.

last idol
#

yyyeah, that fight is nasty for positioning

#

Though it's very nice for booping enemies off into the chasm

#

I think most of my party was further back when the fight started, just had one person walk in and trigger it

severe robin
#

Is there anywhere I can buy a scroll of counterspell

last idol
#

So they couldn't shove anyone else

severe robin
#

I did not take it when I levelled up because like, I have never fought a spellcaster that has cast spells worth counterspelling before

soft tundra
#

Scrolls are semi-randomize shop loot

last idol
#

I don't think there are scrolls of it, AFAIK no reaction items exist

#

But you could go chat with Withers

severe robin
#

This game has a habit of throwing absolutely fucking brutal fights at me out of nowhere that absolutely crush any will I have to actually keep playing because it just feels like a "You didn't see this coming? Fuck you." to me

last idol
#

It definitely feels like some of the fights' difficulty varies a lot by composition

severe robin
#

First it was the Grymforge, and now this

#

And like, I don't even know what I'm supposed to do here

wind tendon
#

the game is pretty bad at telegraphing when the hard fights are

severe robin
#

It's a mandatory fight, I don't know of anything I missed to give me extra levels in this act

charred niche
#

It's too easy to just be knocked off a cliff and instantly die

#

Ah that random archer had a knock back arrow

#

Alas

last idol
#

IIRC 3/4 of my party has immunity to forced movement at this point because sod that

wind tendon
#

I'm really surprised they didn't code it as a knockdown

#

ledge clinging or something

charred niche
#

I want to see a DM irl pull this move

soft tundra
#

i have lmao

#

it rules

severe robin
#

Maybe a cleric could help, but I don't know how to effectively use a cleric at this point, there's no other fights left I can get in, and the thought of having to constantly reload this fight to figure out how to avoid a TPK is exactly what I'm trying to avoid

last idol
#

Got any consumables that might be able to give you an edge? Elixirs, spell scrolls?

soft tundra
#

who is your party

severe robin
#

(I probably do, actually)

#

Me, a Warlock, Lae'zel, Karlach and Gale

soft tundra
#

You have fireball on Gale but not prepped, iirc?

last idol
#

Does Gale know Silence? Could ritual cast that to start the fight, keep Balthy from doing his thing

severe robin
#

Silence is not a Wizard spell, unfortunately

last idol
#

Not sure if it stops thunder arrows though

#

Wait, it's not? Huh.

#

Many years of playing 5e and I just learned that lol

soft tundra
#

you can still cast it via scroll as a wizard but youd have to have it

#

my strat for that fight is to AoE the left side and push in away from the cliffs edge first round, and then spam AoEs constantly or having my key melee bruisers crush the wizards

last idol
#

IIRC Karlach with a Potion of Speed can just run around yeeting priority targets out of the arena

#

It's pretty great

#

Potions of Speed are insanely good in general, if you have them

severe robin
#

I don't have any :(

#

Oh wait yes I do, they were just hidden

#

I thought it was weird I didn't have any

neon junco
#

The cheese method for Balthazar is to talk and have someone gather all the skeletons into one place and when combat starts thunder wave them all off a cliff

severe robin
#

Er

#

He doesn't spawn the skeletons until combat starts, though?

soft tundra
#

we dont need no stinkin cheese, fae's strong enough i believe in them

neon junco
#

Idk if it was patched but I've seen it done

severe robin
#

I'm gonna give it one more try, remembering to use my consumables, and then I'm gonna take a break

#

How long do Oils last?

#

I have a Wizardsbane Oil I've been holding onto for Desna knows how long and I feel like this is the perfect moment to use it

simple spire
#

Did you get the mace from the Githyanki creche?

severe robin
#

Er

#

Last Blood?

simple spire
#

It can help a lot with dealing with undead

severe robin
#

Should be here somewhere...

#

Ah, found it!

#

Who should I put it on?

soft tundra
#

who is dying the most LOL

simple spire
#

Yeah it can trivialize big parts of Act 2.

soft tundra
#

it gives a free revive which is sweet

simple spire
#

Also blinds all nearby undead

#

Just … all the time

severe robin
#

Gale can have it

soft tundra
#

that could really swing things in your favor

severe robin
#

Hm, there's an alchemist in Moonrise I could check for any nice Elixrs

grave prism
#

I think the funniest thing i've done in BG3 so far was start a trial thing in a location which required me to hold an item, then attempt to use banishment on myself which not only did not work but instantly failed the trial

severe robin
#

I managed to cheese the Shar mirror fight by telling everyone to stay in camp, walking in alone, sneaking up to the mirror and sneak attacking it with my EB

#

Didn't even get a turn to fight back

#

(She had no Elixirs)

#

I also respecced Gale so I could take Counterspell on him

#

Update: Wizardsbane Oil lasts 10 turns

#

Good thing I saved before applying it

#

Um, okay, UI question

#

I accidentally clicked for half a second too long and removed one of my illithid powers from my bar, how do I get it back?

#

Nevermind I reflexively pressed c to bring up my character menu and have to reload anyways

last idol
#

The Shar mirror fight was incredibly silly, because for some reason it decided to make a mirror version not of my Warlock, but of my summoned skeleton

severe robin
#

Balthazar also has a very annoying and uncanny knack for landing critical hits on my warlock, instantly downing them from full health

#

And me, fool that I am

#

Choose not to negate it

#

Through the power of cheesy positioning, this fight is already going much better

last idol
#

To double check, you don't have Karmic Dice enabled, do you?

severe robin
#

I do

last idol
#

Unless they've changed it, that can cause enemies to crit you a lot

clear kestrel
#

I dunno how true that is

#

But I have them off for true random

last idol
#

Since it forces them to roll high enough to hit you with some frequency

#

True, that's allegedly, I haven't tested myself

severe robin
#

I chose the worst possible time to change it lol

#

I think I went into the options menu just as a reaction popped up, locking my game

#

Thank you all, for being so kind and helpful

#

I feel like I really cheesed this fight...

#

To a ludicrous degree

#

I just shot Balthazar from up here...

#

And it seems like none of the melee guys can actually jump up this far?

#

I went from regularly getting wiped to finishing the fight without taking like, any damage

#

And I hardly used any consumables either

#

The opportunity just... never came up?

last idol
#

(Much like Balthazar's minions)

severe robin
#

Lmao

#

Wooo 20 CHA

grave prism
#

20 charisma good

severe robin
#

I now have a +10 damage Eldritch Blast and Cull The Weak

#

And the Spellsparkler

grave prism
#

big

#

i think i'm at 22 charisma on my character

#

not using the spellsparkler though

#

i have a funny staff

severe robin
#

22?

#

Teach me your ways

white sleet
#

there's a hat in act 3 iirc that gives you an uncapped +2 charisma

last idol
#

Yes, act 3

white sleet
#

pretty sure you could use that to wind up hitting a 24 charisma

severe robin
#

24?

#

My plan for storming Moonrise is not going well

#

The Harpers do not seem to understand the concept of "Don't stand inside the Hunger of Hadar"

last idol
#

Yeah, that's the very specific fight where Hunger of Hadar to counter Hunger of Hadar matters a lot

severe robin
#

Who has Hunger?

last idol
#

My Warlock did, putting it on the enemy casters before they can do their thing means they don't have sight to cast it

severe robin
#

I meant which of the enemies do

last idol
#

Oh, there's a pair (?) of casters that have it

severe robin
#

Ah

last idol
#

The Harpers do love to walk into friendly Hungers and Spike Growths as well though

severe robin
#

See, I won initiative, cause they seem to all have rolled 1, and Hunger was the first thing I did

#

There's some people up top in a rather unfortunate position

#

Unfortunate for them, because I can probably count on two hands the times I've missed an Eldritch Blast in this game

grave prism
#

Eldritch blast is nice

last idol
#

Blooping them off the rafters in that fight felt so mean

severe robin
#

Honestly it's like, the sole reason I'm a Warlock in the first place

last idol
#

EB never gets old

grave prism
#

It's the thing Warlocks do tbh

severe robin
#

The funny part is

#

They died before they hit the floor

grave prism
#

My warlock does more cool stuff though, like have 3 resistances at any given time

#

Of which i can pick 2

#

2 of them are elemental and one of the picks i have can be any damage type which is pretty nice

#

Githyanki enemies sobbing as i equip psychic resist

severe robin
#

Oh no

#

They hit me with the Hunger

last idol
#

My how the turntables

severe robin
#

See, the difference between them and me, is that I put my fighter up front to stop them from running out and beating the shit out of the person concentrating on it

simple spire
# severe robin *24*?

In Act 3 there’s a sharran mirror that still works and you can take a dispellable curse in return for a permanent stat buff. That plus the hat that gives you +2 Cha is 24.

severe robin
#

Wonderful

cinder gazelle
#

so you can get to 26 charisma

#

+1 from the hag, +2 from the mirror, +1 cha specifically from the mirror's extra prompt, +2 from the hat

#

and just cap it naturally as well

severe robin
#

Jesus...

#

I just fired an Eldritch Blast at someone and...

simple spire
#

I thought the hag's buff stopped at 20?

severe robin
#

I rolled 40 damage

cinder gazelle
#

far as I know, it caps out at uhh

#

40 or something?

simple spire
#

Sick

cinder gazelle
#

just an arbitrary limit you can't hit

cinder gazelle
#

casual 3d10+21

#

achievable 3d10+3d6+24+whatever the fuck else buffs you can stack

last idol
#

(There are a lot)

rich plover
#

How does all that work in multiplayer? Can only one person get each buff? (the hat is straightforward, at least)

cinder gazelle
#

everyone can mirror buff

#

only one person can get the hag hair

#

hat is hat

#

there's other buffs for other stats, however

#

str from the drow woman is the one I remember

#

but I think every stat has a couple bits and bobs

simple spire
#

Oh, does anyone ever know if they fixed respec as an Oathbreaker?

#

checks Looks like he just won't do it

#

Makes sense

cinder gazelle
#

yeah you gotta unbreak

#

and then go rebreak somewhere else if you want to be an OB again

severe robin
#

Zombies are surprisingly brutal

#

Damn

simple spire
#

That's irritating because if I can get to 26 I might as well shuffle my stats around a bit, but I like being a Good Oathbreaker and I'm not eager to do things that would break the oath again

severe robin
#

I'm like, almost fucking dead, no short rests and I can't long rest

cinder gazelle
cinder gazelle
#

so basically if you act like an enormous douche to Ethel in a1 once you hit her house

#

but don't start a fight

#

and make sure mayrina lives

simple spire
#

You don't have to avoid starting a fight

cinder gazelle
#

and then continue being a gigantic dick when she tries to surrender

#

you can say "no, fuck you, we're making a deal and mayrina gets to live"

white sleet
#

oh my

cinder gazelle
#

and then that deal can be her ripping out a chunk of her scalp and hair

#

which when eaten gives a +1 to one stat of your choice, pre-selected when she tears it out

simple spire
#

She flees into her lair when you start the fight, and when you track her down yeah you can intimidate her when she surrenders

cinder gazelle
#

this can overcap

white sleet
#

damn

cinder gazelle
#

and so when you get the mirror buff for +2 in a3, and the other mirror buff for specifically +1 CHA, you can get to 24

#

or 26 with the +2 cha hat

white sleet
#

taking notes for my current 'lock run lol

simple spire
#

There's an absolutely wild Warlock 5/Dragon Sorc 7 build that gets comically huge Eldritch Blasts

cinder gazelle
#

and then there's that one robe that adds your cha to all cantrip damage rolls

severe robin
#

Huh...

#

We might have a problem...

cinder gazelle
#

of course, you can also stack Thirsting Blade with extra attack

#

so this eldritch blast goonery isn't the only form of excessive attack damage you can get

#

what with all the artifact weapons lying around

simple spire
#

Agonizing Blast + Potent Robe + that one staff that makes your blasts give you lightning charges + Dragon Sorc Cha Mod To Lightning Spells + I think there's some other stuff

#

So you get at least 1d10+24 to eldritch blast damage

severe robin
#

Ah great.

simple spire
#

Actually, you know there's also Duke Ravengard's Longsword for another +2 Charisma

#

So hypothetical 28?

severe robin
#

Is there any way to long rest before the second Ketheric fight?

#

Cause I'm at single digit hitpoints on my entire party

#

Oh thank Desna there's one of the long rest things

last idol
simple spire
#

Ah, right, that was your build, wasn't it?

last idol
#

And the +2 damage to things in bright light ring, plus the inflict illuminating orb on hit ring

#

Yep

#

Not dragon sorc but otherwise max EB

#

It's terrifying

simple spire
#

So that's like ... if absolutely maxed, that's 1d10+38 damage 3 times per round, or 6 times per round with quicken spell. Which is. Not a small amount.

#

Plus knockback, you know, for shits and giggles.

severe robin
#

They don't replenish Divination Wizard's Portents

cinder gazelle
#

good

severe robin
#

They also don't recharge magic items

last idol
simple spire
#

Money warlock goes brrrrr

#

Where by “goes brrrrr” we mean “does 468-576 damage if they hit with all attacks”

neon junco
#

Max/max builds and soloing the entire ||house of hope|| boss fight in 1 turn

#

Spoiled for act 3

cinder gazelle
neon junco
#

Archer build goes brrrrt

#

Simply fire so many arrows you can't see the enemy

neon junco
#

And I thought killing karlach was bad

safe jungle
#

For the evils

severe robin
#

Question: Is Champion Fighter bad?

#

I'm thinking of Respeccing Lae'zel into it cause frankly, having to manage me, Gale, and Battle Master Lae'zel is just a bit too much

rich plover
#

It doesn't get you as much as the other subclasses, but you're still a fighter at the end of the day. One nice upside is she will have hilarious jumping distance

zealous shale
#

It's fine. All of its features are passive so you can just turn your brain off and hit things

severe robin
#

I've had Lae'zel as a Battle Master for all of Act 1/2, and I just don't use them

#

All my brainpower is used on managing the two casters in my party

severe robin
#

Oops I think I fucked up Arabella's quest?

#

Do I need to long rest after telling her?

#

Or can I leave the act and it'll still work

#

I wish there was a way to like, pause the game/cutscenes to actually give them time to load models and the world and everything

#

Every time I enter a new area the cutscene starts and plays before it's actually loaded in

#

So it's a bunch of a-posing models floating in the skybox with the voicelines playing

clear kestrel
#

Which quest?

#

Generally, a lot of events are tied to long rests, and they can sorta stack up

#

So it can be worth doing a few in a row to see if things clear out

severe robin
#

Well, I have a lot of food built up...

#

I guess i can...

clear kestrel
#

You won't run out

severe robin
#

Oh my

#

I completely forgot about that lol

#

The owlbear cub just showed up

soft tundra
severe robin
#

Okay, weird problem

#

Talking to Wyll while I'm on the road to baldur's gate seems to softlock my game

dawn terrace
severe robin
#

Hm

#

Ugh

#

I want to do a new game, but I'm torn bewteen Githyanki Shadows Monk, or a Dwarf Strength Open Hand

#

Or finishing my current one

zealous shale
#

I'm a fan of dwarf punch fella

severe robin
#

Hm, probably gonna be a Githyanki Wizard when The Council convenes

severe robin
#

So I think I'll go for the Dwarf Open Hand

#

Although, I think I'm gonna finish this one first cause I just got the new Illithid powers

clear kestrel
#

Is this your first playthrough?

#

If so, I'd finish it

severe robin
#

It is

#

Yeah, that's kinda what I'm thinking

soft tundra
#

Dwarves get some neat dialogue options

frigid oxide
#

Iron Beard Style: Ten Thousand Flagon Fist is my signature move

severe robin
#

I will train myself to think about axes

frigid oxide
severe robin
#

The axe is nothing without the hand, and the hand is nothing without the mind.

#

Woah there's a circus here!!

clear kestrel
#

Oh you're in act 3?

severe robin
#

Yaaaay!!!!

clear kestrel
#

And the owl bear just came to you?

severe robin
#

Well, it came to me when I was leaving Act 2

clear kestrel
#

Ah okays

severe robin
#

I have not done many long rests this game.

clear kestrel
#

Yeah you must of had a back log of events

#

I recommend doing lots of long rests

#

You will not run out of food and events are tied to them

severe robin
#

Maybe

#

Eventually

clear kestrel
#

Just cos you might miss out of stuff otherwise

simple spire
#

I play with a mod that lets me know if there’s a long rest event

severe robin
#

Okay fine

#

I'll buy another clown makeup and do some long rests

#

Snrk

#

I have 350 camp supplies

#

Well, I just did two long rests and got no events, so I'm gonna keep going

#

Me and Karlach are wearing clown makeup 😌

last idol
# severe robin Well, I have a *lot* of food built up...

One thing to know is there's no cost to doing a long rest without supplies, you just won't get all the benefits of a long rest. So what you can do is long rest once using supplies then immediately afterwards rest 10 times in a row without using supplies to clear out the backlog of long rest events

severe robin
#

Question: So, the mind flayer flight ability

#

It used to be bound to z, but now pressing z just makes me jump, which is kinda rubbish on this character

#

Is there any way to go back to having Z be the hotkey for Fly?

#

Oh god

#

The circus got hands

rich plover
#

of course, how could they juggle without them?

grave prism
#

act 3 spoilers ||holy shit Ethel lived, fucking hell||

clear kestrel
#

Surprise

grave prism
#

||and she ate a fucking child, jfc||

#

||i am not going to have a good time what with my Hag Eye||

clear kestrel
#

Oh noooo

grave prism
#

||we gonna have to kill her again somehow anyway||

cinder gazelle
grave prism
cinder gazelle
#

...huh

#

that shouldn't have happened

#

||if you got the eye, I think you can't kill her||

grave prism
#

||like we very specifically fought her to the death down in her cave||

cinder gazelle
#

||so you probably accidentally splashed overkill damage before she would've done her thing||

#

||and the game just checked you for the eye||

grave prism
#

||that's weird, cause we had a convo where she tried to beg for mercy and everything, and we declined her boon and killed her||

cinder gazelle
#

||yeah, the eye is separate from the +1 stat boon, but it should also have locked out killing||

#

||not sure what's up with it, though, it's been a bit||

#

maybe they changed some stuff

grave prism
#

maybe yeah

#

||there have been a good amount of updates since we fought her||

neon junco
#

Oh ||Ethel comes back even if you killed her||

#

||and you can save the child while killing her by using a potion of hag bane on her or switching to non lethal||

grave prism
#

||i see, cause we definitely did kill her in her cave, i'm sure of it||

clear kestrel
#

Yeah ||she comes back no matter what||

#

||but if you took the deal it's harder iirc||

grave prism
#

||kinda figured yeah cause i have disadvantage when fighting hags||

neon junco
#

Luckily she's the only one

cinder gazelle
neon junco
#

It could be glitched but that's what happened to me across like 3 playthroughs

#

Likely intended ||cause if you dialogue with her before killing her she complains that death is painful and inconvenient but she has her ways to come back||

last idol
#

I assume ||the mushrooms bring her back||

neon junco
soft tundra
frigid oxide
#

Behold a fine new lad

#

I am ashamed I haven't done the dark urge run yet

soft tundra
#

love the hair

neon junco
#

Wow is that modded?

severe robin
#

Damn

#

He looks good

frigid oxide
#

but it looks good as hell

#

I'll ask my buddy which one it comes from she assembled a modlist for our games

neon junco
#

It looks very good

frigid oxide
#

We have many that exist for pure dress-up purposes

neon junco
#

I've seen a lot of pretty women mods in bg3 so to see a handsome little guy is refreshing

frigid oxide
#

He is a very handsome orc

soft tundra
#

i trust him with my life

frigid oxide
#

The D&D half-orc he's based on is a very nice fellow, if a bit

#

"Will commit the crimes for money"-flavored

soft tundra
#

hey, the economy is in shambles

#

who can blame 'em

frigid oxide
#

"Have you ever heard about the half-orc assassin in town?"
"No."
"That is because I am a very quiet orc."
[violence.mp3]

#

I do not care what stat governs strength I want to use the greatsword

soft tundra
#

be Strong, be the Strongest

#

strength is pretty damn good in bg3

severe robin
#

Jeez Gale

#

He has 20 INT and yet he still misses every other Firebolt he throws

neon junco
#

I will be a broken record and say Larian really did a great job making martials feel strong with the great magic item support they get

#

The heavy and medium armors are often so good

last idol
#

I'm still slightly annoyed at the lack of heavy armor in the first half of act 1, but otherwise yeah it's great

sonic pollen
#

I have begun playing BG3

#

It is good

grave prism
#

It is!

neon junco
#

It's definitely a top tier crpg

tired nova
#

if your friend jumps off a cliff, would you jump after them
laezel:

soft tundra
#

fly like the comet

neon junco
simple spire
#

"Vlaakith would never tell me to jump off a cliff! I am not unworthy! Only the weak are ordered to jump off cliffs!"

neon junco
#

I read that in her voice

simple spire
#

That was my goal

frigid oxide
#

If Vlaakith is so great why can't she conquer a single githzerai fortress

#

||(Because it is a colossal magitech psychic fortress of adamantium drifting through Limbo)||

grave prism
#

i could do it tbh

#

this is my Vlaakith callout post

severe robin
#

Sad I can't play a Githzerai tbh

#

Like, I fully get why they didn't put them in

#

But still

soft tundra
#

I enjoyed the Githzerai cameo

severe robin
#

There's a Githzerai cameo???

#

I just entered the Lower City proper

soft tundra
#

Act 2 spoilers: ||In the end of Act 2, under Moonrise, you can hook up a brain to the mind-reading device and its a githzerai guy who will talk with you about gith/mindflayers and give you a permanent buff; he's a little out of the way behind a puzzle||

severe robin
#

Inside the ||Illithid colony||?

soft tundra
#

||he gets very offended if you compare him to a githyanki, it rules||

neon junco
#

I did manage after like 10 minutes

severe robin
#

Rip I missed it sadcowboy

soft tundra
#

im puzzlepilled, im puzzlebrained

neon junco
#

It's like the only proper puzzle in the game iirc

grave prism
#

i was looking at the ||funny brain jars and ended up getting it on accident||

severe robin
#

Oh well, I'll get that on a later playthrough

soft tundra
#

theres so many little cool things you can miss for several playthroughs, games massive

neon junco
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And it's easy to miss the ||brain speaker machine, I even carried 2 heads from the intro ship to it||

severe robin
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Honestly, I feel like I missed a fair bit of Act 2

neon junco
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The big thing I missed in act 2 are the ||kuo toa||

severe robin
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I'm kinda just trying to finish the game rn

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Er, I'm still doing like, sidequests and stuff

clear kestrel
frigid oxide
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Where exactly does each arc transition

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I'm still a little dumb and confused

soft tundra
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Act 1 ends when you enter the Shadow-Cursed land / Moonrise area

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Act 2 ends when you finish Moonrise

frigid oxide
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Is act 2 supposed to feel really short

soft tundra
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its got a lot packed into it

frigid oxide
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I had to have missed stuff

soft tundra
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Act 2 has two entire ways to enter it, and then you have ||the Last Light Inn, the entirety of the land with all its little quests, Moonrise before/after, the destroyed city, and the temple, and all the quests related to all of it||

frigid oxide
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I think we gunned too hard for the tower

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And once we got there ||literally everyone except our party members and the aasimar died at the front gate||

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It was a disaster

soft tundra
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I do think act 2 is the shortest if you just beeline the main quests, having done that recently

neon junco
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Yea theres few gates between you and end of act 2

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I guess act 1 can be easily skipped the you just get past the gith to the mountain pass

soft tundra
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There's a noncombat way to do it, the real trick imo is sneaking past gnolls since they'll fuck you up if you go too early

simple spire
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They’ll fuck you up if you don’t go too early too >_>

severe robin
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I am about to fight a Steel Watcher

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Let's see how tough they are when there's not 6 of them shaking down some poor man at once, eh?

clear kestrel
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Scrap 'em

severe robin
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Damn

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That death explosion sure is something

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I was not expecting it to kill the people I was trying to save

clear kestrel
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Oh yeah it's brutal

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It's very hard to save folks inside ||the factory||

severe robin
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Oh I'm not in the factory yet

severe robin
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I'm on a date with Karlach

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But

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We're still wearing the clown facepaint

clear kestrel
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Hot date clearly

grave prism
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act 3 spoilers ||oh yeah and we found out what happened to that Githyanki egg we gave to those researcher weirdos||

clear kestrel
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I gave them ||an owl bear one||

grave prism
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||turns out it grew up into a weird prodigy gith and slaughtered all the researchers for being shitty and then tried to kill us as well||

clear kestrel
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I fear similar results

grave prism
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||needless to say, the kid did not survive||

severe robin
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I forgor to actually give her the egg

grave prism
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||really trying to punch above their weightclass fighting us honestly, with the expected result of dying horribly||

severe robin
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So I'm just carrying it around with me

grave prism
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me and the lads making ethically questionable decisions that always end in tragedy

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immense civilian casualties follow our every step in spite of our attempts to save people

soft tundra
clear kestrel
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Ye

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I fear it will not turn out well

dawn terrace
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Oh yeah. No.

frigid oxide
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Today I learned ||you can recruit Minthara|| and I'm flabbergasted

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I have to go back and see who else might have a story I missed because my favorite button got between us.

clear kestrel
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Ye I was surprised to

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The full list of recruitables are ||Wyll, Gale, Karlash, Astirion, Lazael, Shadowheart, Halsin, Jahira, Minsc and Minathra||

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So you probably didn't miss anyone else

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She's there for evil route stuff

frigid oxide
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I am used to being the party hitman I don't usually stop to talk to people I'm about to get into the mix with unless my gut tells me something's wrong.

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That's probably the main reason I recruited karlach, everything about that scene didn't add up

clear kestrel
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Which scene?

frigid oxide
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I met the paladins first

clear kestrel
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Ah okays

frigid oxide
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They claimed one thing, their wording felt wrong, speak with dead didn't line up with their story, and Wyll's claims didn't match what we found.

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The other one though, I'm neck deep in a goblin camp in the ruins of an old temple where they got a whole mess of nasty stuff going on. My IFF was telling me I was surrounded by XP there.

clear kestrel
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I mean you weren't wrong

neon junco
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||Minthara isn't even antagonist evil she's more cold and practical evil but is against the absolute later on||

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||she isn't super evil mostly cold and laughs at Drow men and clowns, she does not like it if you side with the absolute||

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Also she's soooo funny

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It's a shame that ||you have to give up 2 companions for her unless you skip act 1 and the Grove entirely||

frigid oxide
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||Shadowheart deleted Laezel and the only reason I didn't stake Astarion after the first run is because my buddy wants to date him. He still rubs me the wrong way a LOT.||

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Things are weird in my games

neon junco
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||haha yea shart can kill laezel, that's fun especially if you reconcile between the 2||

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Also shart and laezels VA stream a lot now and are good friends who show up on each other's streams

clear kestrel
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Or play one of them and have them date

white sleet
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I picked up drow for my current durge run and wow. This opens some surprising doors

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Like being able to just walk in to ||the goblin camp||

neon junco
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Yea theres a lot of Drow specific dialogue early on

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playing Tiefling let's you experience racism

frigid oxide
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Every once in a while being a half orc has dialogue

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Not often enough I feel but I think they cut some corners with options they didn't think would get played often

clear kestrel
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Dragonkin get some to

frigid oxide
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I think I've only seen one or two people react to me being a half orc but occasionally my character can say something that harkens to it

safe jungle
tired nova
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its the bdsm buff

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:3

frigid oxide
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The

wind tendon
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you heard the lady

frigid oxide
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I really do miss a lot in my default playstyle huh

safe jungle
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Oh I remember that

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I remember being betrayed by Karlach in that scene

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She was like “oh, I gotta see it!”

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And then she disapproved when I accepted the offer

frigid oxide
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Wait is this the creepy pain guy

safe jungle
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And I’m like “This was YOUR idea!”

wind tendon
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yes

stray basalt
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It's a pretty good buff

frigid oxide
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Didn't do him much good though

stray basalt
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Haha

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Shiny, shiny xp!

frigid oxide
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Tis I, I'm not ashamed to admit it

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Source is in the pic I don't know much about them

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Doubt they do NSFW on FB tho

dawn terrace
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Half-Drow get the worst of it, regular people think you're a drow and actual drow hate your guts.

frigid oxide
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My default playthrough with my friend in the beginning, Anders (guy with the curly hair you can punch) called her a foulblood. She told me to kill him. I did. No witnesses but the body was Right There.

This is when I learned I could carry people like they were equipment.

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I like being a murderhobo on another party member's leash

simple spire
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You should definitely go back and do a playthrough with Lae’zel, I think you’d like her a lot

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She has a lot of murderhobo energy 😄

zealous shale
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act 3 spoilers ||huh, I wasn't expecting Sarevok to still be around||

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||I killed him dead. best way to deal with the murder tribunal is with murder||

simple spire
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||It actually really bothers me that they undid Sarevok’s redemption arc from ToB||

frigid oxide
neon junco
simple spire
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Yes

neon junco
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It's a whole character arc

simple spire
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It takes a bit but you can do it by the end of act 1

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Lae’zel is fundamentally a terrified, confused young woman whose aggression is an adaptation to survival in a fascist society that demanded it of her

neon junco
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To an extent Astarion and Shart are too

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The 3 have a lot in common

simple spire
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There’s a telling moment where she’s all like, ||”of course I killed my fellow students! That’s the githyanki way … when they came at me first, I guess … because they thought I was a weakling … ||

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Astarion has been taught over the course of a century that strength and freedom necessarily imply being a huge asshole to those in your power

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Shadowheart has been taught that her whole identity hinges on absolute loyalty

neon junco
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It's true it's why I think those 3 are my favorite, although I have a soft spot for Karlach cause she's like so good despite her past and just keeps soldiering on and never becoming bitter towards strangers

simple spire
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All of them ||present opportunities to break free of these beliefs||

frigid oxide
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Ngl the low empathy hits weirdly strong with all three of them, but both Wyll and Karlach I'm like "they're my friends they're my besties"

simple spire
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I mean they are all assholes

zealous shale
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I did House of Grief last night and discovered something interesting. Act 3/Shadowheart spoilers ||up until this point, I was led to believe that Shadowheart basically went on a solo suicide mission to get the artefact. Then in the House of Grief we find mission details and learn that Shart wasn't alone on this mission, she had a whole team. In fact, she was only supposed to be the team's healer. The rest of her squad didnt make it back||

simple spire
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It’s a question of whether you think helping them ||fix themselves|| is worth putting up with their bad behavior, I think. Which is a pretty big question irl, too.

frigid oxide
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Maybe that's the thing

neon junco
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Im a fixer type so I really enjoyed seeing them become better and free of their past

simple spire
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Astarion in particular pushes my limits

frigid oxide
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I'm going to chalk my willingness to drop them up to some kind of moral fatigue and try not to navel gaze in the funny game chat

simple spire
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Shart is fairly benign on a personal level, and Lae’zel is … easy to contain?

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She talks a good game

frigid oxide
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I just like that W and K seem to be opposite extremes of where I like to fall in my characters but with a couple twists I don't normally apply to myself.

soft tundra
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I really like both of them

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Wyll is one of my favorite recent examples of his flaw being that he's too willing to give up his own safety/security for others

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literally too heroic for his own good

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and Karlach is similar in that she also got dealt a very early shit hand, and you can learn some cool foils about that in Act 3

white sleet
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of the origin companions i find gale the hardest one to put the effort into personally

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probably at least because like. everything wrong with him ||is his fault and he doesn't really seem to have learned everything he needs to from that||

soft tundra
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I think learning how much of the Mystra stuff began happening when he was young and impressionable changed some of my views on him, as well as his motivations for why he wants to do some of his act 2/3 stuff being similar to how Astarion acts with his goals in act 3 / similar motivations as to why

white sleet
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That makes sense, but at the same time like, (act 2+3 spoilers) ||man took a chunk of karcite weave into him and still looks at the crown of karsus and goes "shit, we should snag that for ourselves" instead of "ah fuck that needs to be destroyed" and I do not gel with Wizard Arrogance like that||

soft tundra
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hahaha thats fair!

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I will say that I think Gale is neck and neck with Wyll for sweetest romance, as well

zealous shale
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Gale is the most wizardly wizard ever

frigid oxide
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I want to set Wyll and Karlach up with each other so Mizora can be confused and angry about it

simple spire
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One of Gale’s early romance scenes involves the world’s dorkiest flirting

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That’s gotta be worth some points

frigid oxide
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Gale is silly and fun I just don't vibe with him as much

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However

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He also lets me use evocation spells

simple spire
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Fireballlllll

soft tundra
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fireball solves many problems in life

frigid oxide
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I can forgive a lot for access to evocation

soft tundra
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i just like all my bg3 blorbos

frigid oxide
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It's wizard time mother fuckers

simple spire
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As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero

frigid oxide
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I like my OC Blorbo the most and if I could mod him in as an NPC I would

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Set him loose on the community like a dragon's dogma pawn

simple spire
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Modding in an NPC in for BG3 unfortunately seems like an immense undertaking

frigid oxide
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Indeed

simple spire
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remembers fondly the days of BG2 NPC mods

frigid oxide
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Sadly I cannot simply write one up like a Kenshi companion mod

soft tundra
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but not impossible if you just record everything with your own 3D rig!

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we can make the handsome half-orc npc real with [insert thousands of dollars here]