I cannot remember, sorry
#Soulslikes
flint pike
flint pike
LOL
Oh that's amazing and hilarious
trying out diff 5 of a boss
Green Swampy in this case in Lies of P's rematches
They realyl wnat you to do the fucking mechanics ocrreclty
i screwed up my guard timing vs a fury attack
instantly one shot from 100 XD
next hollow
tulip cove
Im at Fume Knight
Oh boy, stamina management
sweet quiver
kill that guy
sweet quiver
i remember Fume Knight was a decently fun fight
final smelt
fume is generally well liked
tulip cove
That reminds me tho
Whats the lore implications of Brume Tower's basement being some kind of factory for Old Knights from the Heide area
final smelt
do you know about the veldstat helmet thing
the old iron king was under vendrick
fume used to be in the king's guard
know whats a kinda a shame they didnt do as a memory fight
full strength vendrick
tulip cove
Speaking of
Where can i find the alonne armor in the brume dlc
Is it
In the curse tower with Maldron
final smelt
you gotta beat alonne
final smelt
its not at maldroon
i know its in the higher parts of the main tower
you also need the heart
tulip cove
do you know about the veldstat helmet thing
Oh yeah i tried that
Its supposed to make it easier but i had better luck doing both phases
I got the heart
Ahh higher parts you say
Time to backtrack
Thank you
final smelt
i could be wrong but i def remember you can reach it near the top after you activate the elevators
tulip cove
Brume tower is so cool looking
Love vertical maps like that
Now i just need to farm the brume sorcerer fit
tulip cove
Fixed iit witha sheer amount of resests
Rests
Anyhow
RAIME DOWN
Crowns Collected
Now to sweep up loose ends
tulip cove
Uh
Crowns mostly collected
Need to check if i got vendrick's blessing yet since i went back to his memory
Ah damn it
I forgot vendrick's crown
tulip cove
Getting frustrated with my copy of sotfs
I have to keep restarting my pc just for its online functions to work
Its been 20 minutes
final smelt
i think its just the servers being wierd
tulip cove
Gotchaa
tulip cove
Theres a youtuber who sends videos of themselves defeating Midir with the title "Fighting Midir for the rest of my life day x"
Theyre at day 886 and theyre not stopping
noble plover
damn, that's some dedication
tulip cove
In typical souls fashion they do it naked with a withered and highcontrast-colored character using only a one handed weapon
Finished off the dragon in under 2 minutes on average
still garnet
Man does Elden Ring do better actual eldritch outer gods than bloodborne?
Thinking about how legitimately ridiculously unknowable the outer gods in ER are
sweet quiver
Metyr certainly had more of an impact on le than any of the great one bosses did i think
tulip cove
the great ones seem fleshier and more "human" in their desire to procreate
velvet gorge
their knowledge and power is unknowable but their desires are very familiar. the outer gods, however
spare summit
I mean, this is on purpose.
Bloodborne's Great Ones are sympathetic in spirit, they're intentionally and purposefully like us as people in crucial ways because that's what Bloodborne is about
Elden Ring's outer gods are alien because Elden Ring is about how divinity is unknowable and we make a mockery of it by trying to own and understand it as humans on earth
noble goblet
Bloodborne's Great Ones are sympathetic in spirit, they're intentionally and pur...
you could probably transplant Metyr into bb as a Great One and she'd fit exactly
I think BB's feel a little more alien, like legitimately thinking of the world in different terms
but ER goes all in cosmic scale
flint pike
Man does Elden Ring do better actual eldritch outer gods than bloodborne?
DIfferent apporches to cosmic horror, honestly
tulip cove
Got the Leave the Throne ending in Scholar of the First Sin
tulip cove
thanks uncle Aldia
best ending for a souls character right there
sweet quiver
Aldia my beloved
tulip cove
question about ds2
do you get the funky invisible hand rings by reaching the credits without dying or resting
or do you get them on your NG+(+) after finishing the game without dying or resting
tough lynxBOT
Apparently it's by reaching (and watching) the credits
Apparently the tracker for it resets every ng+ cycle
tulip cove
oooooh
thankyou
made a new playthrough (STR/FAITH) and i plan on Not Dying for the entire game to get that ring
wish me luck
final smelt
i think in some ways not resting is easier
theres just too many bosses and places that can just truck you for me not to want to do the not dying thing
you can at least skip a good chunk of the game though
farming is def important as well
one thing i would recomend doing if your allowing resting
is farm heide knights when you have a decent blunt weapon and health
i should probally spcifify
the old green heide knights
not the white ones
the green ones drop a lot of souls for their diffculty
final smelt
these guys
i just called them heide knights because they are knights you can fight in heide
not thinking about the enemy called heide knights
tulip cove
Yeah, golems
Wonder how theyre related to the drakekeepers
A good chunk of vendrick/iron king stuff is artificial aint it
final smelt
yeah cause the iron king was a mega forge guy
tulip cove
is farm heide knights when you have a decent blunt weapon and health
i love farming at heide's
dragonrider is free souls per bonfire aesthetic spent so as long as i dont pull any lever
speaking of farming
the only reason why my current main save isnt in nge+ is because ive committed to farming Loyce souls
ive farmed 100k+ souls from the Old Chaos and none of the charred knights have lent me the grace of giving up their damn pants
its the one thing from their kit that ive been looking for and yet still
Burnt Pants Acquired
still garnet
I just realized
The dragon form is emaciated in DS3 as another form of rot and decay
tulip cove
question about Loyce souls from Ivory King DLC
do they remain in your inventory after NG?
because im tempted to just
bank my current set and farm them again in my next game cycle
final smelt
i assume not
and even then its better to do farming in ng just because of hp and damage
tulip cove
i did a cursory google check
and apparently you do retain them
at the same time, yes, hp and damage
final smelt
remember you only need 2m souls
to open the shrine
so if you pop any left over souls
tulip cove
almost died to the Hollows that wake up after the first pursuer fight 💀
oh
i uhh
i popped almost all of em
when i went to NG+
final smelt
yeah depending on how many you had left before you could have skipped a ton of ng+
tulip cove
ah rip
i also realized that i couldve done a No Rest Run if i strategically chose the spells I had on hand and rely on the Iron Crown to keep repleneshing em
resting at a Primal Bonfire doesnt count as a Rest for this right?
final smelt
im pretty sure
also dying and reviving at a bonfire does not count as resting
i thnink
tulip cove
ah nice
hard mode would be doing the No Death Run and the No Rest run at the same time xDD
final smelt
yeah
tulip cove
also i notice
potent pewter
no death no bonfire is difficult but very explicitly designed to be achievable in ds2
tulip cove
i can't seem to invade so far
im online but my red orb isnt letting me
even in places where i havent killed bosses yet
potent pewter
there are no locations and no points where you have to bonfire warp
and the bonfires that do nothing but warp don't count
tulip cove
is this aaa ng+ plus thing
tulip cove
oh no i mean the
no invasion thing even if i havent killed hte boss yet thing
haven't killed the Skeleton Lords yet, am online
final smelt
i feel like trying to invade during a no death/rest run is ab ad idea
potent pewter
no invasion thing even if i havent killed hte boss yet thing
ah, no
i have no idea what that's about
tulip cove
i feel like trying to invade during a no death/rest run is ab ad idea
oh i dont intend to haha
im just curious Why
have i accumulated too much Sin
final smelt
usally that means you already have an invader
see any fog walls?
non boss fog walls
tulip cove
none so far...
ok its gone
just as i am about to fight the skeleton lords
and there it is again 💀
tough lynxBOT
I think it shows up when you beat a boss?
tulip cove
oh its showing up for me before i beat a boss
well, time to tackle Iron Kee-
remembers Fencer Sharron and Armorer Dennis
on second thought, time to farm 2m souls to open the shrine
potent pewter
lol
dennis is a joke
he really likes to cast heavy, scary spells
...that leave him open to getting rolled through and backstabbed
tulip cove
i cant risk those two
potent pewter
yeah sharron is scary
tulip cove
Gonna grind Tower of Flame like I always do
tulip cove
Im at the Gutter
Thinking about fighting the rotten
Then remembering
The Woodland Duo
in the poison spit pit with the tar worms
Im not a gambler i dont go big 
Also like
I need 2m for ng+ right
To open the shrine
Im at
1m
Surely
Spamming ascetics at Heides wont bite me in the but
tt
Surely
potent pewter
Im not a gambler i dont go big <:Notlikeshade:967979471854530640>
that's not even big though
the woodland children are little pissbabies that you can cheese in any number of ways
tulip cove
True
Maybe im underestimating my abilities
Or overestimating the spitting statues
I had
Too many close calls so far
final smelt
yeah i just advoid the gutyter if your still on no dying
doesnt even get you a mrechant
also becareful about the pyromancers
they will erase if you if they hit just right
tulip cove
Oh yeah pyros
In the Lost Sinner fight i got hard carried by a friendly sunperson
Bc lucatiel got stuck at the entrance after i hurried into the boss room bc of an invader
heavy agate
been looking forward to this
heavy agate
how are polearms in this?
sweet quiver
well
the thing is
you build your own weapons in Lies of P
there is only one weapon in the game iirc that is actually just a polearm
tender orchid
Most of the time, some special weapons come as is
tender orchid
Is that one you can break into parts?
sweet quiver
no
it's the special weapon you start the game with
it's a collab with some other game i don't know the name of
this
heavy agate
lmao
sweet quiver
you'll learn about that later in the game
but yeah
the basic way things work is
there is only one specific polearm weapon in the game, which is the Azure Crescent Dragon Glaive
however
for every other weapon except for boss weapons
you can split them into two parts
and mix and match
so you can just
make your own polearm
sweet quiver
handle
heavy agate
or is it both?
sweet quiver
handle determines moveset, blade determines scaling iirc
the handle also determines what type of damage you do, slashing or stabbing
every blade is good at either stabbing, slashing or both
you wanna pair a blade and handle that match
or you get less damage
for instance, when you start the game you get to pick from a few different weapons, the rapier has a stabbing moveset, and the greatsword has a slashing moveset
however, the greatsword blade supports both stabbing and slashing
so my first favourite combo was putting the greatsword blade on the rapier handle
heavy agate
hah, and you swing a massive sword like a rapier?
sweet quiver
since the handle had a stabbing moveset which let me have good range, and the greatsword blade works with both stabbing and slashing
sweet quiver
hah, and you swing a massive sword like a rapier?
nah, cause the rapier handle decides the moveset
so i use a greatsword as a rapier
oh wait
i read that wrong
yes
it's only stabbing attack tho
the swing part put me off
now mind you
smaller blades do attack faster when combined with faster handles
and putting a greatsword blade on a fast handle will decrease the speed a bit
so you wanna mix and match as much as you can to try out new weapon combos
It's a lot of fun
I ended up making tons of different weapons while playing the game
heavy agate
the glaive is so good, but I'm gonna have to force myself to use the sabre so I can give other weapons a try 😄
I'll come back to you glaive
oh no, it feels immediately worse
sweet quiver
i'd say
play with the Glaive for a bit
when you are able to take weapons apart and have more weapons to build with, it starts feeling much better
heavy agate
I already hate chimney sweeps and the people who throw shit
really enjoying the game though
sweet quiver
i hope you continue to enjoy it
it's by far one of my favourite games i've played in years
sweet quiver
yeah
heavy agate
chimney sweeps turned out to be easy as hell, just move laterally
actual skill issue on my part
sweet quiver
you learn a lot about dealing with enemies the longer you play the game
also about your defensive and offensive options
for instance
the Glaive has a defensive skill baked in that can allow you to perfectly block anything if you are good enough
heavy agate
yeah, I found that very useful against the Parade Master
the rapier also has the same move I think
or a similar one
sweet quiver
it does
i've seen some absolutely insane plays with that skill on the Glaive specifically
final smelt
yeah the glaive has a wierd perfect block/guard parry hybrid
the rapier has a normal parry
parry is extremely strong if you can use it properly
it can counter any move in the game that isnt an aoe energy attack
heavy agate
still getting the hang of parrying
heavy agate
oh, so parry is the fable art?
final smelt
yes
when you hit the block button and time it right
thats perfect guarding
parry is using the guardparry art
i have really good footage of it being really good but i can't show it for spoilers reasons
but theres an attack in the mid point thats fairly hard to counter and my plan is to just guard parry it to cancel the entire combo chain
final smelt
one thing you can do is boost their stagger time to get off some extra ttacks before doing a finisher
heavy agate
one problem with the glaive I'm finding is it's hard to get off the charged attacks to stagger enemies
but it's really easy with the rapier
final smelt
yeah rapier is faster
have you tried weapon crafting yet
did you buy theother weapons you found earlier
heavy agate
a little
final smelt
from that one merchant at the parade
heavy agate
I'm gonna have to go back for the greatsword
but I got his weapons and the weapon from the next merchant
final smelt
yeah do that so you can have more parts
heavy agate
and the police baton
heavy agate
I'll have to run back for it
final smelt
should have fast travel now
heavy agate
I do, yeah
final smelt
my combo for a good chunk of the game was the greatsword blade and the cuved sword handle
dancer's cursed sword handle
heavy agate
I'll try out the greatsword blade, but I've invested most of my points in technique so far so I doubt I'll stick with it
heavy agate
oh damn
final smelt
blade is what you level up
heavy agate
definitely have to try it then
final smelt
you also don't want to use mitmatched parts
for example if you use a slashing weapon like na axe head
on a stabbing moveset like a rapier
heavy agate
yeah, Freyja mentioned that
final smelt
it does worse
your attack speed is based on the total weight
as well as block is
each handle has sorta a "expected weight"
if you go under it goes faster, if you go over it goes slower
potent pewter
are there any polearm handles
sweet quiver
yeah
sweet quiver
i'm due for a like, 4th run
heavy agate
scrapped watchman is dead, whoo!
final smelt
i wish more people would play non fromsoft soulslikes in general
final smelt
code vein
i know you have played that
If i were to rank just the non fromsoft ones
id say lies of p,nioh 1 and 2, code vein, surge 1 and 2, hellpoint
sweet quiver
oh yeah i did play Code Vein
forgor
probably cause i played Lies of P
and Code Vein is just not comparable i'm sorry to say
sweet quiver
i like Code Vein
but i think it's probably worse than Lies of P in every way
which is not like, a slight against it
Lies of P is low-key a 10/10 game
final smelt
i like the charcters and visuals more in code vien
sweet quiver
but Code Vein is like, a 6 or 6.5/10 for me i'd say
final smelt
oh and i think i like the charcter building a bit more
sweet quiver
tbf it's in a genre known specifically for bangers
final smelt
i do think if i were to rank the games on story id probally put vein at the top
sweet quiver
really?
final smelt
yeah
sweet quiver
that's actually surprising
potent pewter
I'd agree with freya on calling cv a 6/10
lore gets a higher rating
but the story? nah, that's part of the 6
final smelt
for me i really just liked the charcters
sweet quiver
mmm
idk Lies of P is just like, so much more solid in every way for me
including characters
final smelt
I do like the charcters in lies of p and i do think if you give like an greatness per interaction lies of p is better in that way
but i loved the memory scenes in code vein and seeing charcters react to diffrent things
sweet quiver
i think for me it was just like, too much story stuff every time that was almost always just tangentially related to what was going on
i skipped through all the memory scenes for the skill trees mostly
final smelt
yeah a lot of the charcter stuff is in those sections
final smelt
i think they are good if you go in with the expectations that 2 of them were on the psp
potent pewter
i disagree, i played good PSP games
final smelt
one thing i do find really wierd about the first game specificly is how many versions it has that drasticly change the game
A good chunk of the charcters just don't exist in the first version of the game or are just generic player models swaped around
i don't think i know of any other game that has done this
final smelt
yeah i just used throwables on the few enemi sthat were in wierd spots
heavy agate
I made the jump to an enemy and they just slapped me down 😭
sweet quiver
consumables are great in Lies of P
final smelt
i mainly used fable catalysts
but the cannon ball counts as a heavy attack for groggy targets
which is amazing
some fable arts also count as heavy attacks
heavy agate
I'm really enjoying Puppet String, but I can craft another Legion Arm
any suggestions?
I'm looing at Aegis and Falcon Eyes, I think
final smelt
ive not used them
sweet quiver
aegis is good
ashen pumice
I didn't use the arm much personally
Aegis is pretty good
The lightning one is alright
sweet quiver
i used it mostly for non-boss stuff
ashen pumice
Most of the boss weapons are pretty neat
final smelt
the lightning one is really good if you can get the timing right
the thing that looks like a pile bunker isnt one
the ligyhtning one is the closest thing the game has to one
and it does one of the better statues of the game
shock
heavy agate
how the hell do you dodge Anreus's laser/shockwave combo?
I can dodge the laser, but I'm having trouble with the shockwave
okay, distance was the answer
Andreus is dead
heavy agate
ah, quitting out doesn't respawn butterflies
tough lynxBOT
Playing lies of peak for basically the first time, just first tried the parade guy 😌
Which is probably, like, normal given it's basically the tutorial boss but still 😌
I appreciate there being a Sophia in this game
Also: something is definitely weird with the grand covenant because clearly the “listen to your owner” and “don’t hurt people” laws have been completely broken, but the “no lying” law still functions perfectly fine
ashen pumice
it's one of the big mysteries of the game, yeah
sweet quiver
Playing lies of peak for basically the first time, just first tried the parade g...
YIPPEEEEEE
another one playing the game
it's so good
and yeah the grand covenant and it not working properly is a big plot point since it's sort of the impetus for things being as they are
tough lynxBOT
We should probably stop trying to perfect block everything and actually use the dodge
sweet quiver
simply i-frame it
spare summit
basically: parrying causes both stagger damage and weapon damage to your opponent, and intensifies with successive parries
if you can parry a string of attacks, you'll cause a lot of harm to your opponent for having attacked you as well as avoiding the damage
tough lynxBOT
We have found an exception to this: the fucking spear guys
Lunatic Blue ↩️
spare summit
oh sorry to be clear, oftentimes you should cut your losses and just get out of the way, but it's strictly superior to parry if you're confident enough to try
parrying the spear guys is really hard but it breaks their spear if you can manage it, which is awesome
ashen pumice
Just blocking is also very viable
sweet quiver
i used a combo of dodging, blocking and parrying for my run
tough lynxBOT
Just killed a guy right in front of Gepetto and he did not care in the slightest
Weirdo
sweet quiver
Gepetto core
i wonder if that guy was a bastard or a sweeper
i don't remember enough about that scene but i feel like he was probably a bastard
tough lynxBOT
A... sweeper?
tough lynxBOT
What do you mean?
sweet quiver
you don't really need to worry about it too much, it's exclusively a lore thing
tough lynxBOT
So I can put a greatsword blade on a rapier hilt
tough lynxBOT
...and go into heavy load, okay
sweet quiver
me when i level carryweight
i have it super leveled up by now since i'm 3 playthroughs deep
i have full amulets, arms and weapons equipped, and all my weapons are pretty much heavy ones
final smelt
i wish we would stopcalling perfect blocking parrying for lies of p when there is a seprate thing
tough lynxBOT
Switching back to a regular rapier because the greatsword one is a lot slower
sweet quiver
👍
tough lynxBOT
Hmm... the saber blade does more damage and has the same speed so we guess we'll use that
sweet quiver
i'd show you my weapons but all of them are weapon spoilers for the dlc
tough lynxBOT
Oh yeah, when can you start making boss weapons?
sweet quiver
when you get to a certain point in the game you'll meet the boss weapon merchant
so i'd just hold onto the boss souls
also one thing to keep in mind
if you're going for achievements, generally you wanna grabb all weapons or all talismans for first run and then the reverse on the second
iirc doing all weapons is best for the achievement run
final smelt
yeah
i did all weapons
but i think with the changes you dont need to do multiable single save run anymore if you do all weapos
heavy agate
boss weapon merchant was quite out of the way
I went past the elevator to him and had to double back to check
so I think he's quite missable
sweet quiver
the merchant will go to a second location if you miss them
heavy agate
oh, neat
sweet quiver
which is right before leaving the area
so you shouldn't miss them unless you are specifically skipping talking to them
so long as you explore and talk to people it shouldn't be an issue
tough lynxBOT
Cop puppet time apparently
...wasn't this thing supposed to look approachable and friendly?
Because I don’t think this counts
spare summit
it did once
final smelt
he would also be friendly if you were a child probally
heavy agate
do I have to attack this to progress?
otherwise I seem to be at a dead end
oh, nvm
now I can interact with them
bitter ridge
surely nothing tragic happened in this part of Krat, I bet those people are normal
heavy agate
okay, the White Lady is the most annoying boss I've fought
only took two tries but she interrupted every single charged heavy I did
no matter how I timed them
heavy agate
ooh, dancer's curved sword is nice
ashen pumice
i wonder if that guy was a bastard or a sweeper
Based on his coat, the Donkey was probably a Sweeper
ashen pumice
Run past the clown
next hollow
run past yeah
you can get the 1v1
ashen pumice
There's a Stargazer at the opera
next hollow
he laughs at you and taunts you
tough lynxBOT
...huh. Okay for some reason whenever our camera goes over a corner a light blue spot just flashes on our screen
And steam deck's steam recording thing doesn't seem to want to work with lies of p so I can't show the problem <-<
Through the incredible jank of streaming it to my pc then recording that with my phone I can now show the problem
Ignore how dirty the screen is
heavy agate
yeah, it's like you're seeing an unloaded texture or something
tough lynxBOT
Found this after I also noticed a bit of ghosting on Pinocchio
https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckTAA/comments/1buup2p/white_ghosting_effect_in_lies_of_p_is_this/
tough lynxBOT
Any of y'all experienced this?
heavy agate
oh, ||Romeo's|| phase two does not fuck around
ashen pumice
yeah
heavy agate
he's doing his best Friede impression
final smelt
oh, ||Romeo's|| phase two does not fuck around
spoilers for mid lies of p, but it is that fight gatts is on
heavy agate
honestly, it was a sick fight
I kind of wish it was a bit longer
the ||King of Puppets|| phase has a lot of moves but really low HP
ashen pumice
get used to almost every fight having two phases going forward btw
next hollow
havent really tried that fight since june
i should get around to beating it sometime
heavy agate
when do I start the DLC by the way?
heavy agate
huh
interestingly two people told me to look at it, but I can't interact with it yet
dunno if I need to wait a set time or what
final smelt
what aprt of the game aare you at
final smelt
yeah you still have a while
heavy agate
finally got enough carry weight to carry a dagger for charged heavies
it's working pretty well
there's a second rafter section where enemies throw shit at you
this one mercifully brief
final smelt
if you need fast charged heavies buy cannonballs
heavy agate
I'll keep an eye out for a merchant that sells them
heavy agate
the one I used the coin with?
heavy agate
oh god, clown round 2
heavy agate
and now Sen's Fortress shenanigans
with a looong runback
died in the same place again 😭
heavy agate
met Patches
hard man to find
just got the last upgrade for the Puppet String and it counts as a charged heavy
no need for consumables anymore
final smelt
one combo you can do with the shock arm is
groggy someone do a heavy/use shotput
then do a full charge blast of it
then do the finisher
heavy agate
got a nice collection of weapons now
the circular saw is fun, stronger on every attack which stacks with my amulet that gets stronger on every attack
might make an Advance build next run
sweet quiver
You can do it this run if you wanna try
heavy agate
I have got the point I can respec, but I'm having a lot of fun with the glaive still
heavy agate
sorry, "to the point*"
sweet quiver
Really wanna share my weapons but i've got too many ones from lategame and DLC
heavy agate
holy shit
the two dragons sword
wait, the charged heavy is a parry
what the fuck
it is
this sword is incredible
blood hound's finesse, a free parry, a charged attack I can just hold forever, a ranged aoe slash...
it's on sale for £25 right now, if you have the money
...?
sweet quiver
?
heavy agate
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sweet quiver
ah
heavy agate
dripped out
sweet quiver
hard fit
untold tendon
heavy agate
sweet quiver
heavy agate
it was just an Emergency Protection, damn
sweet quiver
😔
heavy agate
well, time to go see the animals
heavy agate
just got fucked up by a ||fucked up kangaroo||
heavy agate
There's been a summon bowl for some of the easiest fights in the game
sweet quiver
there is always a summon bowl
ashen pumice
not for every boss
ashen pumice
but ||Tyrannical Predator|| I'm on my own
yeah good luck with that one
sweet quiver
that boss fucking sucks btw
bitter ridge
he was my Worst Camera Boss, too
every attack is just flailing a hitbox the size of a family car around
( they get the worst one out of the way first, every boss from then on out is an absolute banger )
tough lynxBOT
Oh hey, can you respec in lies of p? And if so how long does it take to be able to?
final smelt
how far into the game are you currently
tough lynxBOT
Not very, only just started the factory
tough lynxBOT
Oooh nice
sweet quiver
the only thing you can't change is material spent on weapon upgrades
tough lynxBOT
We have met/saved Vengini and we love him already
heavy agate
Am I crazy or does the Tyrannical Predator not telegraph the tail swipe?
or is it just telegraphing it, but I can't see past it's body that takes up my entire camera
tulip cove
well
there goes my No Death Run in NG+ of Dark Souls 2
🥹
Iron Keep was a bad idea 😭
heavy agate
it's always rough seeing a stargazer over a fence I could hop IRL
heavy agate
oh, ||Markiona|| is hard
final smelt
also what killed you in iron keep
heavy agate
||hot blue lady|| has been defeated
brisk idol
Hello soulsnerds here is an edit of me beating up a stupid goat with a bird
tulip cove
also what killed you in iron keep
the lava
in the lever room
i swung badly on the ramp and fell
😭
potent pewter
that tends to happen
lotta random fucking workplace accidents
in iron keep
so many sources of Get Fucked Bozo
the cauldron rim in the factory section, that little jump you have to do right after the smelter if you let the turtle knight smash the bridge
the jumping section at the very start
the seesaw bridge right before smelter, if you're going for the side path
iron king arena, even
plenty of room to get mogged in there
sweet quiver
Osha invader
brisk idol
Even on my 10th playthrough of ds2 I will still get bodied at least once somewhere in Iron keep
I dont think I've ever gotten through it without dying
tulip cove
pain peko
potent pewter
i've definitely done it a few times, but uh
tulip cove
i guess i'll try again with a NG run
potent pewter
MY SAFE RUNS SURE ARE FUCKIN OUTWEIGHED BY THE ACCIDENT-PRONE ONES
god
i die at iron keep so often
so many runs i'm like
brisk idol
I could play 1000% safe and then get invaded and killed anyway
tulip cove
evil and intimidating lava pit:
potent pewter
slips and dies right in the fuckass hole in the middle of the iron king arena
or get mogged by the goofy trapdoor section
trying to roll away from an alonne knight
brisk idol
Every single death in Iron keep is just a looney toons bit
potent pewter
yeah i love that stupid piece of shit zone
brisk idol
It embodies how like. Goofy dark souls 2 really is
final smelt
its the only place i think is worse in SOTFS
tulip cove
lava castle full of samurai knights is peak video game design
brisk idol
That aggro from like a different zipcode
noble goblet
I forgive it for a lot because I fuck with the concept
I heard "Castle made of iron sinking into lava" I was sold
brisk idol
fuuuuuuck dude noooooo my castle made of Iron. Noooooo dude fuck
How could we have predicted this nooooo bro
bitter ridge
The acoustics pre-melting must have been a nightmare
brisk idol
Isn't it like a forge too can you imagine iron slamming on iron all the time and just echoing in this huge iron castle
Everyone in the iron keep is canonically deaf
noble goblet
its so unbelievably silly its great
yeah fill it with spike walls and living metal turtles fuck it
build a 100-foot tall giant bull. have it breathe fire.
tulip cove
the Iron King was on that villain shit
brisk idol
"We're gonna need the precarious 5 ft bridge over a huge pool of lava here"
Next to the exploding furnace that lights you on fire if you open it?
"Yeah next to the furnace"
potent pewter
"but my liege, wh-"
"HYPE MOMENTS AND AURA, THAT'S WHY"
tulip cove
"I miss Sir Alonne Vendrick I miss him so much"
noble goblet
the Iron King was on that villain shit
the fucking
brume tower elevators
being collapsed warriors representing kingdom's hes crushed
so extra
final smelt
i thought he made them
tulip cove
Brume Tower elevators are so hype but i have so many questions about them
potent pewter
brume tower my beloved
noble goblet
i thought he made them
they're way bigger than the actual soldiers you find so I assumed it was decorative
they don't really portray strength either, though I guess it could be like "look at how sick my metalbending is"
I thought it was basically a dark souls soyjack tbh
I will portray myself as the collosus bestride the world with a crown of iron and you as the cring warrior
final smelt
they kinda make a stonish bonk sound when you hit them
brisk idol
Nobody in the dark souls universe is above putting "elevators of dudes that I've killed" in their sick ass tower though
tough lynxBOT
...huh, is damage in lies of p slightly random? We noticed our damage on the dummy being different seemingly at random
tough lynxBOT
Per hit
tough lynxBOT
We tested it using r1s and waiting for the dummy's damage number to reset
sweet quiver
it's never a big difference
tough lynxBOT
Huh, weird
Freyja of the Nightless Night ↩️
sweet quiver
but it is a difference
sometimes i ended up killing enemies with two attacks and sometimes it needed three
no clue whatsoever why
final smelt
i assume range has always been a thing
that or theres a mechnic on where you hit with it and when in your swing
i think most soulslikes have some damage range
tough lynxBOT
Oh hey, killing the cowardly mouse guy let us use a gesture to get up to the cathedral, neat
Was wondering what the purpose of killing him was
tough lynxBOT
Why are there zombies 
Welp, time to try out the fire dagger
Found a guy who is looking for a "gold coin fruit" because it can cure any disease
He did not seem to have read the note he gave us that said "all miracles have a price"
ashen pumice
Why are there zombies <:sweating:503656172234997831>
:)
tough lynxBOT
...why are they bleeding blue
Has their blood been replaced by liquid ergo or something?
ashen pumice
It seems the puppets are perhaps not the only problem around
tough lynxBOT
Mayhaps
sweet quiver
it certainly is mysterious
tough lynxBOT
WHAT THE HELL
Oh yeah, there was a guy earlier who said his sibling went to the cathedral, wonder when we'll find the body and can lie to him about it
The rafters in this area are awful
spare summit
WHAT THE HELL
normal shit
ashen pumice
The rafters in this area are awful
as they usually are
tough lynxBOT
Aww, Eugenie has a bunch of animal sculptures
Also the cat still hates us 😔
noble goblet
It seems the puppets are perhaps not the only problem around
Having subtitles on during these parts is so funny if you speak fluent puppet
||"We gotta cleanse these zombies to save the humans!" sorry buddy you're getting Hack-Axe'd||
tough lynxBOT
Fluent puppet we assume means "read slightly distorted english"
Also we found a cool guy with a dog mask, he seems nice
bitter ridge
||incredulous whine noise||
tough lynxBOT
(We understand that lying as much as possible is a good thing to do in this game but we told him about hotel krat anyway)
Oooh, boss weapons
bitter ridge
Not to be biased but I would vote weapons over the talismans
None of them are really potent enough to take away from a unique moveset
ashen pumice
he still gets to the hotel eventually even if you give him the run around
ashen pumice
Fluent puppet we assume means "read slightly distorted english"
it's possible to read it, yeah
you also get to read the puppet subtitles undistorted in NG+
tough lynxBOT
Yeah, you have to lie as much as possible to get the true ending right?
bitter ridge
No
ashen pumice
you need a certain amount of humanity, but it's not that much
tough lynxBOT
We see
bitter ridge
It's mostly tied to a weapon unlock but I just never enjoy anything that is 'do 100% of Just This Thing' idk how to express it more easily
ashen pumice
the thing that actually needs you to get pretty much every lie is the Golden Lie, but that's more of a funny optional thing
bitter ridge
If you didn't lie every single time I believe it's already locked
tough lynxBOT
WHY
bitter ridge
But there might be some small amount of leeway
ashen pumice
it's really tight, I missed it on my replay and I went for most of the lies
bitter ridge
Same
bitter ridge
Idk what to tell ya, I got ||The Long Gray Hair, Heart Pumping, Cat Friendship|| but still couldn't grab it
final smelt
records alone are 390 points
ashen pumice
you can also get some from the DLC now, and I don't know if the threshold for Golden Lie was changed any for that
tough lynxBOT
...what the fuck happened to Andreus
ashen pumice
Good question
ashen pumice
Andreus is also where you can get used to bosses having two phases now
bitter ridge
Thinking of it like perfect block helped me, the opening for 'early' is a lot more gentle than 'late'
And even if you're too early it's still blockin
tough lynxBOT
Hey did y'all know Saint Andreus is a one winged angel?
spare summit
sorry I'm still confused about who's the one-winged angel
could you perhaps communicate this repeatedly every time I try and fail that godforsaken fight
tough lynxBOT
Oh yeah, he's god's-
Wait no I'm being told that now "the stage is set, maniacal laughter"
Which I'm sure is nothing to worry about
spare summit
quick ,pivot to Some Guy up to nondescript nefarious shit
tough lynxBOT
Also Cecile seems to be dead now, that's a shame
Oh right I can craft a new arm now
Any suggestions? The arm cannon one seems neat and does fit the technique build we're doing, but it looks really slow
spare summit
Falcon Eyes is useful for a variety of tangential stuff, I can also recommend Deus Ex Machina for pure damage output and Aegis for just being really handy and giving you a strong supplemental defense option
spare summit
Falcon Eyes lets you snipe while aimed down, which both means you can strike things that would normally be out of your reach, and also kite / bait enemies that you wouldn't normally be able to
final smelt
i would not recomend the machina for most
spare summit
Deus Ex Machina is a funny way to trade having a Legion Arm for "fuck it, I want to be able to do the funny against certain annoying enemies / bosses"
it's not good but it does a lot of damage and stagger
final smelt
i love the shock arm but it is hard to use
spare summit
Fulminis is kinda cheeks.
final smelt
to me the shock arm just seems better than it for most cases
its really good when you can land full charged shots
and shock is one of the best statuses
spare summit
it's much harder to set up a fully charged Fulminis than to just plant Deus Ex bombs when the boss is having a tantrum somewhere else
and then guide the boss to where you set them
tough lynxBOT
Ooh, aiming
Lunatic Blue ↩️
tough lynxBOT
Cataclysm?
spare summit
DLC-exclusive
spare summit
Pandemonium is trash
final smelt
it has maybe single digit use cases
spare summit
in general acid is a bad status for you to use
final smelt
acid isnt bad, but the arm is bad against anything weak to it
because human enmies are rare, and they are generally a lot of them when they do show up
the arm also takes too long to build up acid
spare summit
plus, generally when you fight human enemies
you're fighting them alongside carcasses anyways
final smelt
Pandemonium is so niche the times its useful can be counted in encounters with specific enemies
final smelt
i havent seen flamberge much but ive found itsometimes prety yesful
spare summit
is Icarus any good
final smelt
puppet strings is one i rarely use but the times i did was very useful
spare summit
I used Puppet String basically all the time in my first playthrough
and only branched out to others for my replay
tough lynxBOT
Hmm... do we upgrade the trident, the weirdly over powered dragon glaive, or the humble umbrella sword...
spare summit
the dragon glaive is just kinda cracked
tough lynxBOT
I'm thinking the umbrella sword, thrusting swords in this game are pretty fun
It's basic but hey, blocking on heavy attacks
tulip cove
also i realize why i couldnt coop in my games
i had to kill the NPC invader first
cannot invade*
tough lynxBOT
So fire is good against the zombies, electricity is good against puppets, we guess that means that acid is good against... humans?
final smelt
yeah
tough lynxBOT
The black rabbit brotherhood fight is pretty fun so far, though we are rapidly realizing that us being bad at perfect guards is a very bad thing
Oh gods one of them has the exact same playstyle we do
Also how is the wintry rapier still one of the best weapons we've used in this game
tough lynxBOT
Well that was a fun fight, weird how they didn't drop an actual boss ergo though
...oh hey we can respec now
heavy agate
yeah, some bosses don't drop boss ergo
also most of the boss weapons don't really have anything to do with the boss themselves, though this is justified in universe by Alidoro
tough lynxBOT
Yeh
tough lynxBOT
...wait a second. The first law is "obey your creator" not "obey your owner"
Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️
God damn it Geppetto
ashen pumice
:)
sweet quiver
:)
tough lynxBOT
Well technically Venigni is the one who mass produces them but Geppetto invented them
Unrelated, how does the cube work? It says it replenishes whetstones when you go to a stargazer or die, but it never seems to do that
final smelt
yeah idk
what that text is
it lies
you need to buy more of the things
i didn't really use the cube except for to heal a summon on the worst boss in the game
ashen pumice
Unrelated, how does the cube work? It says it replenishes whetstones when you go...
If you have more of that type of stone, it puts in a new one at a Stargazer
But you still need to buy them from the guy
ashen pumice
They also don't really matter yeah
It's helpful pretty much only if you use the summon
sweet quiver
like 80% of its utility is to buff the summon guy for bosses
it can give you miniscule passive heal also
which is like
it's only other utility
i used it once in my entire playtime
tough lynxBOT
Pain
Alaen | Vulpine Subaltern (any) ↩️
sweet quiver
the stones you need for it cost ||gold coin fruit||
which is better spent on
anything else
tough lynxBOT
Like respecs or resetting legion arm upgrades
ashen pumice
I used it once for one of the DLC bosses
sweet quiver
Like respecs or resetting legion arm upgrades
indeed
i have a good supply so i could probably buy a good chunk of stones to make it usable but like
nah
it's not worth it
tough lynxBOT
Just met Julian, poor guy
We know telling him Melody loved him was technically a lie because we don't have proof, but she probably did right? She didn't fall to the puppet frenzy if nothing else
sweet quiver
mhm
tough lynxBOT
...why is the mad clown puppet.
ashen pumice
it just is
regrettably
run past it and go to the Stargazer in front of the opera
then you can approach the clown puppet from behind next time and fight it up there
makes it much easier to deal with
tough lynxBOT
There's a stargazer behind him!? Why!?
sweet quiver
because it's funny
also maybe go back and check where she was at some point
don't wanna backseat but if you have time you know
tough lynxBOT
The solution was using the heaviest technique weapon we had (bone-cutting sawblade + booster glaive handle)
The booster glaive is insane tbh
spare summit
Booster Glaive handle goes nuts
sweet quiver
Booster Glaive handle was by far my favourite until i got to the dlc
where it was immediately usurped
ashen pumice
the sawblade goes great with a lot of handles
stick it on anything for lots of range and damage
tough lynxBOT
Unless the handle uses a lot of thrust attacks
ashen pumice
it does need to be a slashing handle, yeah
tough lynxBOT
Wonder if we should switch over to a advance build 🤔
ashen pumice
advance is weird, because it only really works with very specific blades and handles
tough lynxBOT
The only bad thing about it is that there are, like, three handles we've found so far that scale with it and three blades that do advance damage
final smelt
yeah thats the problem with advance
tough lynxBOT
Hmm... I wonder what the king of puppets is trying to tell me with that cutscene
final smelt
have you beaten them
tough lynxBOT
Not yet
tough lynxBOT
This is a tough boss
sweet quiver
yup
final smelt
i had a pretty wild way of beating phase 2 if you want to see it
also consumables are amazing in lies of p
i never thought about it until now
but is the guard parry just the Komaki Tiger Drop of lies of p
tough lynxBOT
And he's dead!
I'm sure every problem in the city has been solved and we will all live happily ever after
Why is this a lie!?
Oh wait
That has us hovering over the wrong option, we chose “of course”
Oh hey we have a scythe now!
final smelt
you only need a certain number of humainty points
a good chunk which is from records and lying
but diffrent lies give diffrent points
chosing of course gives you i think 150
there is actully one time lying gives you less points than the truth
tough lynxBOT
This looks very silly, we love it
sweet quiver
I wore that mask for most of the game and dlc
Wore it with the workshop outfit for basegame and the starter outfit you get for the dlc
very fond of the combo
i like the dlc costume more tho
damn now i gotta fucking replay Lies of P again
round 3 or 4 can't remember
back at it again
ok wow the p-organ upgrades for extra levels of ng+ are crazy
final smelt
one of the ones for ng++ are goofy
final smelt
sweet quiver
||extra amulet, extra arms, extra carryweight and the ability to BLOCK FURY ATTACKS WITH GUARD||
holy shit
yeah that's some crazy shit
time to add like another 50+ hours
tough lynxBOT
||Extra arms just makes me think of how ultrakill does it||
Freyja of the Nightless Night ↩️
tough lynxBOT
We assume the dlc is supposed to be done after beating the main story, correct?
sweet quiver
no actually
it's ostensibly designed to be done a lil bit before you complete the game
final smelt
its after swamp
sweet quiver
doing it before will give you unique stuff in the later parts of the game
final smelt
oh yeah so lies of p has a really wierd soul increase
after i think 80
it only goes up 1 per level
sweet quiver
yeah
final smelt
10000,10001,10002
sweet quiver
level cost kinda caps at around 80-90
tough lynxBOT
We see