Soulslikes

[flint pike]

and 72 without

Well,r emeber str increases your physical resist

[sour grail]

I've been using the 19% equip load talisman

for bosses

it's in my flex slot

ooooh

that sword is so cool

[flint pike]

+0.33 Physical Defense per level from 1 to 30 Strength
+0.5 Physical Defense per level from 31 to 40 Strength
+0.75 Physical Defense per level from 41 to 60 Strength
+0.25 Physical Defense per level from 61 to 99 Strength

[sour grail]

oh wait no

I'm using the +2 physical defense talisman

and coping with 50.4 equip load

but honestly it's not bad

[flint pike]

What are your other talismans?

[sour grail]

uhh

chloranthy ring

which is

oh

dog talisman

[flint pike]

Yep, a good choice

That's my usual flex slot choice

[sour grail]

golden scarab (I can probably just switch that on at the end if it really comes down to needing an extra slot)

those two are always equipped

[flint pike]

(Yes, that's what i do, honestly)

But leaving it on all the time is fine for general roaming

[sour grail]

then 20% more estus heal

and my flex slot, which is currently +2 phys resist (idk if that helps at all in p2)

[flint pike]

anyway, at 80 strength

you get 34.4% physical resitance for free.

[sour grail]

gosh dang

[flint pike]

Which is a frankyl crazy amount

Yesi just sat down and manualyl mathed this out ;.;

[sour grail]

[olive lintel]

Irithyll Straight Sword is good

[flint pike]

So my math may be slightly off

[sour grail]

I might drop the 8 faith and 7 endurance into hp and str then

maybe 2 int as well

[flint pike]

Well, 13 int is really nice for Discus and Sacred Blade

but it's up to you

i really like having acess to those, perosnally

[sour grail]

that leaves me at 11 + 5 int for ruins greatsword/Radahn's swords if i ever want to use them

oh I've never tried those

and I can definitely drop mind back down too

[flint pike]

but (0.33x30)+(0.5x10)+(0.75x20)+(0.25x20) should be 34.9 actually

[sour grail]

this is the classic first run, level off of vibes build 😭

[flint pike]

It's okay!

[sour grail]

at least I know a bit more than when I played ds3 for the first time

[flint pike]

The stat system in Elden Ring

is well

I'm gonna be honest

it's dumb

and i like the system overall and has a bunch of things i think it does well

[sour grail]

I put points into faith so I could use the heal chime 💀 💀

even now my ds3 build has random 28 int, not worth it for MLGS, i'll respec

[flint pike]

( @untold tendon is hissing at me)

[sour grail]

:3

[flint pike]

but the way the stat curves are handled

etc

is nottally not inutive

and and penalzies not having out of game knoweldge

[final smelt]

i never thought baout how its probally not puting as much str if your twohanding

[sour grail]

😔

[final smelt]

even thought i already know that it just slipped my mind

[flint pike]

Eh, it depends

the thing is the returns on two-handing with strength are Really good

[sour grail]

alright time to be responsible and Do Stuff

[flint pike]

and it takes until you are past 60 strength for them to start falling off

[sour grail]

then later I'll go mess around and smack maliketh

[flint pike]

and even then, at high stat levels, any AR you can get is often very worth

esp if your build is focused on 'I HIT WITH BIG STICK"

[sour grail]

I guess it's worth to respec I am a huge hoarder and the only reason I respecced in ds3 is because my build was ass, and also it's free

[flint pike]

It's nto free! you can only do it 5 times per NG!

for no stated reason!

Elden ring is much more generous, it's something like 20+ times iwth the dlc

[sour grail]

if you respec and alt-f4 the game, it'll save the respec without using the tongue or the respec limit

[flint pike]

lolwut.

Amazing

[sour grail]

😭

doubly more important since it's a freaking covenant item

[sour grail]

er that is, confirm the respec but do not close rosaria's menu

then force close it

it'll yell at you about closing the game properly, but it saves (I backup just in case anyways )

[flint pike]

That is Very Silly

[sour grail]

it is!

[flint pike]

Anyway, i hope all my commetnary was bighelpful!

[sour grail]

yeah it was

ty!

[flint pike]

Yay!

I always get anaoxious becuase like, Optimizer brain

and STRONG OPINIONS

[sour grail]

I will consider using one of my ~14 larval tears

maybe..

[flint pike]

There are even more in the dlc

if you have that

[sour grail]

i probably will snag it

i don't think i have any leyndell quests to progress

so I'm gonna go beat up maliketh

then check out the sewers or the consecrated snowfield

mohg can wait

and then I'll head into shadow land

[noble plover]

👀

i wonder if it'd be worth it to bump my build up to 60 strength

i stopped at 54 bc i'm two-handing everything

but a little extra physical defense isn't bad

[flint pike]

You still get a good chunk of AR

Heavy Night rider glaive is 721 @ 54, and 771 at 80.

50 AR difference

Two handing also has better MVs usually, so that goes even further

[flint pike]

So, in summary: I would be going all the way to 80 str myself, but it really depends on your build, and what you're doing, and what you're other stat demands are

[noble plover]

I mean, not much? I've been leveling Dex just because I don't really know what else to do

I've already got 60 Vigor, and I'm at something like 25 Mind and 40 Endurance

There's an argument for leveling Faith since I'm maining the Death Knight Longhaft Axe, but the problem is that I like to swap around, and a lot of my other weapons wouldn't benefit

And I'm not really interested in casting beyond basic utility incantations

[flint pike]

I would absolutely dump dex in that case. The longhaft axe gets a respectable .54 fth scaling, and a .99 str scaling.

So get 80 strength, because going Heavy all your weapons well benefit.

Additionally if you're using Faith you can press this further by having Electric Weapon as a utility spell, letting you add extra damage to your buffable weapons. Do note that weapon buffs only scale with the faith portion of your incant scaling, so Clawmark is functionally useless.

And there's stuff like Heal From Afar, which is excellent utility.

[sour grail]

yeah i dropped clawmark because of that

[flint pike]

Clawmark is fine if you're not using buffs, but like, one of the big appeals of Heavy etc infusions is that they are buffable

[final smelt]

incartions are really wierd

on what stat goes to what spell

its kinda goofy

[flint pike]

Shit, I get an extra 211 Lighting damage on my Keen milady right now

[final smelt]

it really should just be stright spell edjust and nothing else

[flint pike]

If it's a heal or buff, it's faith incant scaling only. If it has a status attached, it scales with your arcane... But only if your seal has arcane scaling attached.

Otherwise it does just work off spelladjust

[final smelt]

yeah thats really silly to keep track of

[flint pike]

Same rules for sorceries, just replace faith with int

I agree it's silly, though I don't find it hard to track

[sour grail]

OMG

GODFREY IS HOARAH LOUX?????

i only knew the names and bits of the fights

well the p2

i had never seen non-piss godfrey in his arena

[potent pewter]

i could've sworn that was established relatively early

[flint pike]

NOPE

it's actually one of the bigger twists in the game

[potent pewter]

huh

[flint pike]

HOrah Loux is broguht up super early

[potent pewter]

thought the opening cutscene said something about his exile

[flint pike]

and it's made clear he's a Big Deal Tarnished

[potent pewter]

guess it didn't mention godfrey

[flint pike]

Yeah, you only know him by Hoarah Loux there.

And one of the mystersys for obersvant players is wait, every other big name tanrished, we meet.

where's Hoarah?

and then WHAM

[long flicker]

Have fun, it’s a cool fight

[sour grail]

it is really really

fun

i just don't know how to dodge the huge scorched earth aoes

[spare summit]

yeah Godfrey is a baller

[sour grail]

(I'll figure it out)

luna why am i getting churned

his spd does 75%

it's not fair

😔

then i get mixed and hit with the jinrai overhead

that was such a cool cutscene

but yeah my friend was like "this is kinda like zangief"

😭

holy moly

[flint pike]

So uh

I think you just jump the aoes?

[sour grail]

even after slowly catching spoilers after the game being out for so long and being so popular (including seeing the hoarah loux boss fight), I'm amazed that this twist still got me

yeah I've been jumping the aoes

just not the huge fire ones, maybe i jump back and then run

but dw I'll try to figure it out myself first

I like dude fights

[spare summit]

okay so like

basically, you gotta roll all the way to his opposite side when he's tryna grab you, and jump the AoEs

[sour grail]

jump, you say?

https://tenor.com/view/animals-with-captions-boioioing-bunny-bunny-running-surprised-bunny-gif-25116590

[spare summit]

in general you always hop over attacks that present as waves or tremors carried along the ground

[sour grail]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-white-glint-colossal-fart-attack-gif-25725602

like this one

[long flicker]

I am not convinced that this isn't literally you

[spare summit]

yeah

when you see the colossal fart attack you jump over it

[sour grail]

[spare summit]

also sometimes you can jump over regular ass attacks that kinda veer low and try to take out your knees

jumping in Elden Ring is a low crush, proper

you have a surprising number of lower body invuln frames

[sour grail]

whaaa u have invuln

dang

the more you know

boioioing

[spare summit]

it's quite literally lower body invuln

you know how Strive 6Ps work?

[sour grail]

reverse 6P

LMAO

same brain

[spare summit]

the brainrot establishes a hivemind

[sour grail]

i was gonna ask for streets matches but I'm probably gonna stream the end of the game for my friends instead

[spare summit]

Did you beat Hoarah Loux

[sour grail]

nah not yet

[spare summit]

wait so uh

which demigods have you beaten

[sour grail]

godrick
rennala
radahn
morgott
rykard

just the first 5 yeah

then 4 more shardbearers

miquella is somewhere idk

i got to mohgwyn palace but didn't do anything

[spare summit]

can't kill Ranni but did you find Mohg, Malenia or Miquella yet

[sour grail]

ranni no great rune

at consecrated snowfield rn

only got the first grace before i went to fire giant

[flint pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zdbqTHtnr4

@sour grail

It's wild

[spare summit]

yeah jumping is absurdly safe

[sour grail]

the anti-streets

[spare summit]

you ain't that close to ending the game then

or like

idk

[sour grail]

yeye i have those 2

[spare summit]

it's all screwy now with the DLC

[sour grail]

but i just mean final boss

[spare summit]

which I presume you're also intending to do?

[sour grail]

ye

and malenia

and the sewers

[spare summit]

oh

okay seriousmode for a second

do sewers before you finish the game lol

[sour grail]

😟

oooooop

[spare summit]

otherwise it's just gonna be really easy and kind of an anticlimax

[sour grail]

hmm

but aren't I only 2 bosses away anyways

not sure how much of a difference it'll make in my power level

I'll do godfrey then sewers i guess

[spare summit]

idk do as thou wilt and all but like

[long flicker]

There won’t be much of a difference tbh

[spare summit]

yeah

do it in whatever order, I just personally always conceived of the game as, like

the main game and then the secret areas / postgame bosses (Mohg, Malenia) and THEN the DLC

[long flicker]

I mean they’re at Godfrey

[spare summit]

yeah this is just me revealing my brainrot ig

I think of Elden Ring as done when every demigod is 6ft under

[sour grail]

oh yeah when i say ending i just mean elden beast

then maybe I'll hop on gief and smack peeps

but it'll also be like midnight so that might be a bad idea

[sour grail]

touch golden light

[spare summit]

Damn

slapped his shit

[sour grail]

heck yeah

radagon is slapping me

[flint pike]

Raddypants is very vulenrtable to being SET ON FIRE

Or hit with a hammer

[sour grail]

oh

i died to smellden beast

😔

[sour grail]

real endgame of drip for the cutscene

this credits music is kinda scary

[long flicker]

🥳

[sour grail]

oh

there's the voices for the dlc people

i had to look away

😭

thankfully i didn't see too many names

[spare summit]

oh shit

they really intend for you to become Elden Lord after the DLC

that's crazy lmao

[sour grail]

wonder what happened to hewg :(

he forgor

[spare summit]

he got Divine Old Man Disease

[sour grail]

noooo

final stats

not a clean 600k cuz i upgraded the MLGS by 2 levels before the screenshot

hmmm

tree

i wonder how i get there

[potent pewter]

you're directed to it a few times

[sour grail]

i see

i haven't actually explored the snowfield much yet

so maybe it's pretty obvious

but that's for another day

😌

gonna go to bed, that was a good ending

godfrey and radagon were great Dude Fights

[spare summit]

they are, honestly

[sour grail]

very... soulslike ( 🥁 )

something that I was sorely missing during dragon and giant feet poking hours

[spare summit]

peak Named Guy That Whips Your Ass bosses tbh

[sour grail]

nod

elden beast was also pretty readable and fair

easy to hit with an UGS unlike astel

and I come out to 428 deaths on my counter

not bad

i'm still reeling from that plot twist lmao

[spare summit]

which one

[sour grail]

godfrey

very funny

even though i didn't know much lore

just that hoarah loux was his p2

also don't know who radagon is 😕

but marika in the opening is in the same position he was in

and I also thought that it was marika hanging from the rune arc thing at the beginning of the cutscene

[flint pike]

Radagon annoys me in that i wish he wanst part of a 2 phase fight liek that

because he's such a great fight

and he has so little hp because of two phaseyness

[sour grail]

😔

[flint pike]

Radagon is Marika.

which is confusing becuase Radagon is also Marika's second husbandoo and Elden Lord

[sour grail]

???

[spare summit]

It makes slightly more sense now

[flint pike]

WELCOME TO ELDEN RING LORE

WE'RE ALL CONFUSED

[sour grail]

yeah watching the opening cutscene it switches from marika to radagon bonking the ELDEN RING

[flint pike]

This is literally something there's been years of arugment over

[spare summit]

but before we knew Certain Things thanks to the DLC, frankly, no one knew

[sour grail]

but whattt

😟

[spare summit]

okay

[flint pike]

Yep, it's literally marika breaking the ring and then Radagon trying to fxi the ring

[spare summit]

Radagon is the second Elden Lord

[sour grail]

oh he's tryna fix it

dang

interesting

[spare summit]

he was a champion of the Golden Order's war host

then he uhhh

[sour grail]

is this dlc stuff

[spare summit]

no

this is basegame

[sour grail]

aughhhh 😩 rise, ye tarnished

you ok there narrator?

[spare summit]

anyways, basically

to settle the war with the Carians he said "okay I'll marry Rennala"

"this is a huge L for me, I'm really falling on my sword marrying an 8ft tall woman who's the best in the entire world at magic"

and the whole thing was wrapped up

they had 3 kids, and then for reasons unclear Marika was like "okay boo that's fun and all but divorce her, come back to Leyndell, you're going to be the second Elden Lord"

and the three children of Radagon and Marika therefore became Demigods by marriage, please ignore the fact that they are also biologically Demigods with the fantastic powers that implies

[sour grail]

[potent pewter]

and then they were all gigachad wizards

ranni is the least ostentatious on raw sorcery, but her signature is the highest-int spell in the game, and she's broadly uh

well, ranni

don't fuck with ranni the witch

rykard reinvented an entire branch of sorcery and/or retooled a branch of magic into sorcery

and radahn decided to be the most ridiculous gravity mage the world's ever seen

[tough ermine]

@sour grail getting into the Haligtree is a little bit of a pain, would you like hint(s)?

[sour grail]

I'll give it a try first

i haven't explored the snowfield at all yet

[sour grail]

[tough ermine]

But my wife :(

[velvet gorge]

elden ring lore is fucking stupid and i love it

[noble plover]

i love the implied sitcom-esque shenanigans from the fact that there was a period of time where Radagon was king-consort in Liurnia while Marika was queen in Leyndell

i'm assuming that this either involved copious use of teleportation magic or a large number of elaborately contrived cover stories

possibly both

[crystal meteor]

Something I do enjoy about the lore is that, pre-Shattering, the demigods did seem to get along as a functional family

[velvet gorge]

that's all thanks to George RR Martin, who wrote all the preshattering lore

one of his favorite characters was rykard

[bitter ridge]

That leaves me with questions

Praetor Rykard seemed a bit intense even pre-snake

[sour grail]

i don't know much about him

idk how he became the snake

[long flicker]

He let a giant snake eat him

[dense compass]

(kinky)

[bitter ridge]

idk how he built a castle on top of a damn volcano

not just on top but like around

'well we have to have the enormous modular torture bridge, it fits the space so perfectly'

[olive lintel]

Pontiff muy dead

[bitter ridge]

Ayy, nice, guy's a jerk

[sour grail]

bleghh

yeah i saw that in the intro

so confused

[slate osprey]

It wasn't giant when he did it

[olive lintel]

Anri has achieved malewife status

[sour grail]

[olive lintel]

lol

[olive lintel]

hmm

irithyll straight sword, chaos lothric knight sword, or anri's straight sword...

[olive lintel]

Aldrich is easily the most annoying boss I have ever seen

[final smelt]

its really stupid when it goes into the walls and you just can't hit it

[sour grail]

rahh

yeah a goofy boss

got all the legendary weapons

[velvet gorge]

i modded elden ring (not severely just some extra weapons and a couple texture changes) and one of the weapons is a combo sorcery catalyst and colossal sword. i will be doing my best to get it and slay the god-beast guarding lady Ranni's path to becoming Elden Lord with it. wish me luck, folks.

[olive lintel]

I also beat dancer like 20 minutes ago whoops lol

[olive lintel]

MOONLIGHT GREATSWORD TIME

[velvet gorge]

moonlight greatsword my beloved

by my side all along
my guiding moonlight

[slate osprey]

My True Mentor

[noble goblet]

its such a hype reveal when it happens, though

(with the dlc stuff ||I'm real glad we have Trina to underline how Marika / Radagon probably works||. Helps clear up quite a bit.)

[potent pewter]

||i mean, the shaman thing combined with every other piece of radagon-related information means that doesn't clear anything up||

[noble goblet]

imo the other big twist isn't just that Radagon's Marika, but also that both literally are the Elden Ring.
Their actions can also be read as trying to shatter / fix themselves

[noble goblet]

LOOK

[potent pewter]

||since there are repeated and explicit examples of marika's people physically melding with other people||

[noble goblet]

fromsoft moment

[potent pewter]

||and radagon is constantly referred to as having deep and confusing ties to Giants and the Misbegotten||

[final smelt]

||i still think radagon was his own person before yeah cause giants||

[potent pewter]

||so if anything, it's cleared up but not by Saint Trina||

[noble goblet]

||my take is its honestly less important 'why' Radagon exists than how their relationship looked like - which Saint Trina really helps underline, as a cast off and incomplete part of Miquella who's nevertheless tied to him.||

[potent pewter]

||and instead by the entirely separate explicit power of Marika and her people||

[final smelt]

||id argue why he exists is very important to the whole marika and raddgon combining as it completely changes the context||

[noble goblet]

||I think I'm on team 'started a fragment of Marika' over his own guy. Just fits the narrative of seeking completion, and his comparisons to Marika, a bit better.||

[final smelt]

||what about the various items that point to him having been related to giants which doesnt fit with him being a fragment||

[potent pewter]

I would be fine with that if it wasn't super unsupported by everything in the game and dlc

[noble goblet]

||I'm only aware of the Giant's Braid, which I've heard has different connotations in other languages.||

[final smelt]

||if he is a fragment he can't be releated to giants, and his kids also can't be related to giants||

[noble goblet]

super unsupported?

I mean I'd personally say the opposite

but its an area thats definitely not clear

[crystal meteor]

togethaaaaa we can devowaaaaah the very godsssss

[potent pewter]

||there's too much "Radagon has a traceable lineage" content that makes the dlc information line it up extremely well, yeah||

[final smelt]

||raddaans armor also talks about how how has pride in hair unlike raddagon
Radahn inherited the furious, flaming red hair of his father Radagon, and is fond of its heroic implications. ||

[velvet gorge]

i was gonna come in here to say stuff about the magma wyrms but there's a lore argument happening so i'll wait

[crystal meteor]

tell me about the wyrms

[velvet gorge]

ok so magma wyrms are people who were cursed for taking part in dragon communion

because supposedly eating dragon hearts to become a dragon is "blasphemous" and "evil"

but the thing is

[potent pewter]

magma wyrms and the dragonfuckery is super interesting too, yeah

[velvet gorge]

i feel like the wyrms got the better side of the deal

they still turned into giant firespitting lizards

they may not be able to fly like true dragons but they get a neat sword and are just as fearsome as the real thing imo

[noble goblet]

last thing from me (its wyrm time) but ||The dlcs treatment of Trina - both said to be the 'other half', both said to have appeared and disappeared from nowhere, both perish on the death of the other - give a much stronger arguement he's fundementally the same thing. I also don't think the dlc gives any further indication of his lineage, and involves you starting to take other theories for granted - like Marika having ever been put in jar to begin with, or Radagon being reborn through some means.||

The real answer is we'll never know though

[sour grail]

interesting

[potent pewter]

||it doesn't necessitate either of those||

[sour grail]

is this lore in item descriptions

[velvet gorge]

if i was offered the option between "live a normal life" and "be cursed to become a giant magma spewing dragon thing" i'd take the curse in a fucking heartbeat

[potent pewter]

||Marika didn't need to be jarred, because that's not stated as being a requirement for melding||

[noble goblet]

you fought him right? Its why Marika and him are all broken - they were shattered.

[potent pewter]

||there's just that esoteric statement of "shaman flesh melds harmoniously", which gives context to what makes the jar-blobbing feasible||

oaauuoooghhhhh, elden ring

shattered

by someone

or something

[noble goblet]

ok we're on the same page here

I didn't know if you were putting forward those other ones because tbh they're pretty common

[potent pewter]

i'm just working off the explicit information we have, yeah

[sour grail]

I see

[crystal meteor]

i'll take "being a magma wyrm is a curse" as enough evidence its probs not a fun existence

at the very least you are no longer yourself

and a loss of self always seems scariest to me

[potent pewter]

aye

[noble goblet]

actually speaking of + the other thing
||Thoughts on Marika becoming a vessel for the Elden Ring as a shaman-specific thing, rather than a property of the ring?||

||Her shaman flesh melding her with the Elden Beast?||

[potent pewter]

HMMMMMMMMM

[sour grail]

oh wait i should go tackle the sewers

[noble goblet]

its kinda the theory I was working on right after dlc

[crystal meteor]

good luck friend

[potent pewter]

||i think that would probably be an Empyrean thing, rather than a shaman thing - but from called them miko for a reason, and it's hard to cut away the connotations of divinity and shrine associations from that||

||i think they would've used a different term for "holy woman" if they didn't want them to be immediately associated with gods||

||so it's an interesting theory||

[noble goblet]

||and explains why Marika was trapped (can't die or quit without passing Order onto someone else) + why Ranni was so keen to get rid of her flesh and yet still remains Empyrean.||

[sour grail]

tyty

[potent pewter]

there's a lot of stuff still unanswered, yeah

[noble goblet]

||I guess I'm more just saying 'what if the melding she did isn't how Godhood works on its own, its how Marika handled it due to her ability to merge'||

[potent pewter]

and though i wish for more information on some of these things (PROCESSION OF STARS), i'm happy that fromsoft has maintained that inscrutability

yeah it's interesting

[noble goblet]

||iirc pre-dlc it was commonly accepted true Godhood just requires the ring, yet theres Miquella right there||

[potent pewter]

and imo at the very least plausible

[sour grail]

is ranni's ending supposed to be kinda vague? not sure what the new age is supposed to be, although marika has now faded so I guess ranni is the new god?

[noble goblet]

random enemies show up with jedi powers
unreleated to dungeon
ominously mentions Proper Nouns
refuses to elaborate
Why is it always confusion?
In short Elden Ring, O Elden Ring

[final smelt]

my view is its the get rid of all gods ending

[sour grail]

ahh

[noble goblet]

100% intended to be vague

[sour grail]

cool beans

[noble goblet]

its the only ending without a view from the future looking back - fits her motifs

you're going into the cold and dark and unknown - you don't get the surety of how it turns out

shes (probably, most likely) the new god, but refuses to use power of of the Elden Ring

her Order is 'no Order'

[final smelt]

her quest and what she done makes me more of think she hates gods in general and wants them gone from the land entirely

[noble goblet]

depends on what you mean by gods

I dont think any ending lessens magic, or the various divinities in TLB

[sour grail]

she did throw away her great rune

[final smelt]

she worked with melina who many beleive is the gloam eye queen who used weapons meant to kill gods

[noble goblet]

but shes against the Marika type god, for sure

[noble goblet]

yeah her ending is about abstaining from power

[sour grail]

[noble goblet]

its why you travel with her, you're also abstaining from active Lordship

versus settling down to rule

[noble goblet]

(which, with the dlc, ||sets up her clear counterpart in Miquella - whos willing to actively make the world a better place through being the undeniable center of his own Order, who'll dominate the lands between as a new divinity||)

(||while Ranni won't use godhood at all to impose a way of life on the Lands Between, and instead just hides Order||)

[final smelt]

||eh miquella reminds me more of the "ill erase suffering by removing all emotions" kind of person||

[noble goblet]

I see her ending as metaphorically embracing death

you gotta basically accept your life in the lands between is over, that you wont affect it at all

and you head into the fearful dark, never to return

[noble goblet]

I mean not wrong either

||but its their use of power that sets them as opposites - Miquella's gold is unalloyed because it all comes from and centers on him, his symbol is the circlet of light because it can stand above and apart from those within. He's intractable from the Age he seeks to make, and is ready to use divine power to bring everyone under his vision - literally all-encompassing.||

she's got one of the better endings overall

definitely a sick cutscene

[flint pike]

I have joked before that Rykard needed to go into archteicture

I mean, the volcano is ltierally consuming his town

and his buildings havent melted.

and generallyl seem to be going wel

[noble goblet]

maybe the lavas just not that hot

I mean the tarnished can walk on it for a while

[flint pike]

In it*

Pepto-b ismal

Or something

[noble goblet]

didn't he also build the snake abductors

maybe he's got a knack for engineering, skilled with a hammer

||probably got it from his dad||

[velvet gorge]

rykard would do wonders for the lands between's architecture and technology if he wasn't obsessed with his pet snake's vore fetish

[noble goblet]

smh just like the Golden Order to kinkshame....

[olive lintel]

three lords of cinder in a single day

light work

[sour grail]

hmmm...

how to get into the sewers

[final smelt]

yeah i recomend fire

[sour grail]

D:

[olive lintel]

Me on a taco bell binge

[velvet gorge]

dung eater is so funny to me

lemme give you an analogy that is spoilered for being a bit extreme but accurate

||calling him "dung eater" is like calling a guy who kills a guy and sexually defiles his corpse on live television and then says that heaven is real and he just made sure that guy isn't getting in "the shoplifter"||

the funny part to me is that his moniker is the least of the problems when you're dealing with him

[final smelt]

i thought about doing an inctations or sorcries only run

or just a magic only run in general

[velvet gorge]

yes

become a wizard

learn all the magics

[sour grail]

LEYNDELL CATACOMBS

AAAAA

i love these kinda things lol

uhh

dang

mohg wasn't here

either

😟

[noble plover]

i know some people hate these enemies, but i think you really have to hand it to them

[sour grail]

sigh

[velvet gorge]

i will not. i will be showing them the finger as long as i am near them

[flint pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWjgiXmem8

Undignifed snickering

[flint pike]

https://www.twitch.tv/thezombiepenguin
Streamin'

[olive lintel]

Archdragon Peak is

hehehehe

fuck

[final smelt]

its one of the places in the game i did actully use a shield

[sour grail]

[olive lintel]

I am not for I am a baby who would go above 70% encumberance if I did that with my set of

actual armor

[sour grail]

dodge and weave!

[final smelt]

i was thinking about ds2 and doing an all boss run and im just thinking "what on earth should me build be"

[velvet gorge]

have you guys ever heard of an all hit run?

it's where you purposely don't dodge any attack the boss throws at you and instead tank it and win.

someone did that on the final boss of the elden ring dlc

[sour grail]

is guarding allowed

hmm

I didn't know gurranq and maliketh were the same

interesting..

[flint pike]

For all hit runs? Nah. You win them but abusing defence stacking, and often stuff like ironjar aromatic + wild strikes great stars or the ilk

[sour grail]

i see...

interesting

[noble plover]

I cannot fathom doing that with the DLC bosses, but I'd have said the same about one-shot runs and I know people have managed that, so

[flint pike]

The thing about defence in Elden Ring is that it's all multiplicative.

So if you're already at 50% physical resist, and you use something that reduces damage taken by 10%, even though your defence will only show it went up to 51% out whatever, you're still taking 10% less damage than you were

In combo with the fact that at 60 vigor + Crimson Amber 3 + Morgotts great rune you get some very silly HP numbers

And you can effectively multiply that 2.5k HP to be equivalents to actually having 25k or silly

[noble goblet]

to learn the final dlc boss I stacked holy resist up to about 90, 92%

and it was silly

[flint pike]

Yeah at that point a 100 damage holy attack hits you, and it does... 8 damage.

Oh no. Anyway

[bitter ridge]

I get confused about damage numbers when I see the hits summons take

"What do you mean 2.4k. What do you mean."

[olive lintel]

NAMELESS KING WAS SO NEEDLESSLY STRESSFUL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sour grail]

that field that he lays down with the slam in p2

destroyed me

[olive lintel]

god bless black fire orb, chaos bed vestiges, and chaos astora's sword

All right

I literally only have one boss left lol

[noble goblet]

no dlc?

[olive lintel]

nah

can't afford them lol

[olive lintel]

tfw you specced fully into fire but the final boss is Lord of Cinder

Well I gotta find a dark gem lmao

[bitter ridge]

Happens early in DS1 too, early boss is just Fully Immune

'Ah. Oh, No.'

[sour grail]

my friend doing demon prince on his full pyromancy build 😔

[potent pewter]

do a helix halberd run

[final smelt]

i thought baout that

but its pretty late

i don't want anything post shrine of winter to be a focus

[potent pewter]

summon me and i'll drop it

[final smelt]

ill think about it ive also thought about doing powerstance since i never actully did it in ds2

or twinblade

[potent pewter]

ooh

yeah you should powerstance crypt blackswords

or greathammers

[final smelt]

if i did dual it would probally be stright,daggers,or curved

maybe katanas

[potent pewter]

you will not regret powerstancing colossal weapons

[crystal meteor]

trying to give ds2 another go

i think it just chaffs to much with what i want in a souls

also man i forgot about durability, fuck durability lmaoooo

[final smelt]

yeah im mainly not a fan of durablity in 2

in 1 it was what ever it was more of a limit of ablity us

[crystal meteor]

the speed of combat hasnt felt too great, i forgot the estus sucks a lot, and largely the world design feels like its aged worse than i remembered

which is a shame cuz i like the lore

[final smelt]

feel free to ask for tips

and one big thing ds2 has over the others is you have a lot more choices on where to go

[crystal meteor]

respectfully tips dont make a game whose designs i hate better, but i do appreciate the offer

[final smelt]

what class are you using?

the class i recomend the most is probally knight

[crystal meteor]

this is my 3rd run so i went deprived

[potent pewter]

unfortunately ds2 is the only game that wants durability to matter

because it wants you to think about the logistics of a no death no bonfire run

[final smelt]

i think some weapons it works fine for

[potent pewter]

and every aspect of attrition thereof

[final smelt]

but some feel like what?

[crystal meteor]

ugh dying in ds2 blows too, why is my hp impacted that way (i know why i just dont like it compared to other soulslike)

[final smelt]

dragonslayer spear has 30 durablit yand uses 5 durabliuty per heavy

due to its special

guess the durablity of the thorned greatsword

[potent pewter]

iirc 15?

or is that the heide stone knight stuff

[final smelt]

85

[potent pewter]

oh huh

[final smelt]

no wait its 10 durablity per heavy on the dragon slayer spear

[potent pewter]

[final smelt]

and its 10 for the glass knigt greatswrod

that has 85 durablity

which kinda makes some sense in that case

[potent pewter]

yeah the fp system for special attacks (and/or just free shit like the wing of astel) is just

so much less ball-crushing

[final smelt]

i think in ds1 i perfered the durbality system over 3's version

but i do perfer elden ring overall

one thingi will say about the losing health per level thing is the ring for it is pretty early on, and enemies in ds2 rarely do a truckton of damage

even in a sl1 run the only things that could oneshot me was veldstat after buffing and nashasdra

also deprived is aboutely the slowest and most painful start

but i still like depraved

knight and explorere are my recomends for most non magical builds

[sour grail]

got my elden ring to-do list ready

[sour grail]

praise the sidequest!

+2 ancient dragon smithing stones

[flint pike]

Todo: Watch pengui nstream.

nod nod

https://www.twitch.tv/thezombiepenguin

[sour grail]

apparently I just needed to rest at the grace

[sour grail]

💀

okii

I'll come back another time!! sorry that I can't stay when I finally catch a stream 😔

I want to play the dlc as blind as possible

[flint pike]

That is toally understanble =3

It's okay!

[sour grail]

[long flicker]

...I should do a build in elden ring that actually uses a shield at some point

[sour grail]

:O

sevens mentioned she did a shield poking build

lance monster hunter....

how many (main ish) bosses can be parried?

[long flicker]

Not many I don't think? I know you can parry morgott/margit and malenia, but I'm not sure who else

[final smelt]

loretta,godskin, elmer,

mlikith sorta

one of my favorite extremely insane things ive done

is beat veldstat at sl1 relying entirely on parries

well not entirly i just parried the stuff i felt safe about and dodged the rest

and i did to do it with hand parries

[sour grail]

i see

maybe a tanky/guard counter thing could be fun

[noble goblet]

maces are real good for that

very high poise damage on guard counter

[sour grail]

got and upgraded godfrey's axe, it might be a bit lower damage than my current sword but it's cool

and has a different moveset

ended up playing fighting games for most of the night tho, but I'll be back

tmrw...

now I'm just down to mohg (sewers) and then mohg (real) and malenia, I believe

where's millicent

last saw her before castle sol, telling me about the medallion

[long flicker]

She’s in the haligtree iirc

[sour grail]

how did she get there without the medallion 🤔

ty rose

I'll trek through the snowfield sometime

[long flicker]

What’s the earliest greatshield you can get (other than the one the grafted scion drops)?

[potent pewter]

lordsworn's

from farming the godrick soldiers

it doesn't have 100 block though

[long flicker]

94 phys block is good enough tbh

[potent pewter]

first 100 block i can think of is the godrick knight greatshield

the gilded greatshield

but those guys can be dickheads to farm without a strat

[final smelt]

the one in the ruins you can use summons to help

[long flicker]

The what

[final smelt]

you know the ruins where most people meet melina

where the map is for limgrave

[long flicker]

Oh right

It takes 36 strength so it’s definitely not as practical early on tbh

[final smelt]

i will say lordsworn

is 94 but also 7 pounds lighter

[potent pewter]

you can also swing over to liurnia for the jellyfish shield

with 100 block, reasonably low weight, and 20 str req

[long flicker]

I was gonna use that one until I could get a better one yeah

[flint pike]

A lot of bosses can be parried

Generally if they have a weapon, you can parry them

[long flicker]

Or just do the sensible thing of just using the vagabond shield until later so I don’t have to farm

[noble plover]

yeah i think medium shield is going to be fine until you have a greatshield and the stats to use it

you can also grab the Manor Towershield in Stormveil pretty easily if you know where it is

[potent pewter]

it's also 30 str unfortunately

takes a bit

[flint pike]

There's a merchant who sells a great 100% block shield in limgrave

Near Kenneth's fort

[noble plover]

iirc the Brass Shield that soldiers drop is the best of the medium shields, at least in terms of guard boost

however it is also somewhat heavy

[flint pike]

Heavy, rare drop, 16 strength requirement.

But the best medium shield for guard boost and general resistances, except for lighting.

Blue-Gold Kite shield is lighter, better lighting resist and otherwise good elemental resists, lower strength requirement, but about ten less guard boost.

Messmer Solider Shield is 1 point of guard boost behind Brass shield, easy str requirement (it's ten?), ways five rather than seven, but it only has 42% elemental resists. And ofc, dlc locked

I use Messmer's because I'm not really trying to block elemental often, and if I am there's Shield grease or just parrying with Carian Retaliation. And 40% block already defangs elemental really well

There's also Banished Knights Shield which has same guard boost as Messmer's, better elemental except for lighting, 1 more weight, 14 strvs 10

[noble plover]

I don't usually factor Str requirements on account of favoring bonk builds 😛 but yeah

Tbh I think Messmer's and Banished Knight win for fashion, too, though it depends on the look you're going for

[bitter ridge]

The new crest shields look great

[final smelt]

i felt a lot of the base game medium shields were kinda ugly

[long flicker]

Oh hey, this is finally out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nahDpQB8sE4

[final smelt]

i didn't know this was being worked on but its a good video

[sour grail]

ooh

[final smelt]

i did get surpised by the discharge one

[sour grail]

more sewers today…

[long flicker]

This video has reaffirmed my belief that Andy is the most unhinged challenge runner out there, ||doing the entire run away from his computer at 300 ping and 15fps and still getting all possible points is insane||

[long flicker]

||Honestly I kinda want to know what on earth plateau was doing to do that much damage, I wonder how far he could get with just the dragon claws and greatsword||

[olive lintel]

Cinder boi dead

YES I CAUGHT IT AT THE PERFECT TIME LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

[sour grail]

[olive lintel]

Also I 1000% look like Eileen the crow rn

[crystal meteor]

Ds2 progress: rotten and sinner dead, mace is +7 now

[final smelt]

ive never done the mace route

i also usally skip freja on most playthoughts

out of the 4 lord souls its probally the one i like to fight the least

[crystal meteor]

I just bought a mace cuz i always used swords before

Its nice

Ruin Sentinels kinda died immediately to it

[noble goblet]

I like the area quite a bit

don't really know why tbh, its not like the enemies are super fun

[final smelt]

i just mainly advoid bosses with friends

[crystal meteor]

I want souls so i like to fight bosses

Bosses are never my problem its usually some of the jank enemies

Like the "dogs" in the gutter

What is up with that hurtbox

[final smelt]

yeah idk i just advoid the dogs

i just have memorized at this point a path i like

for the gutter take it and leave

[crystal meteor]

The white knights at the tower of flame also have very "interesting" hurtboxes

[last bronze]

i can't stand the heide knights

[final smelt]

ive gotten a lot better at dealing with them just over time

i can parry most of them pretty easily

its less hitboxes more their attacks are voer 0-100 speed

[sour grail]

wait a second...

I never helped alexander out of his hole near jarburg

but he still met me at mt gelmir and in farum azula

maybe someone else helped him out 😌

[sour grail]

[olive lintel]

Best of luck

I am questioning the choice of colossal weapon and

no armor

[sour grail]

I was just being drippy, switching into something more suited for combat

yayy

[spare summit]

nize

[sour grail]

tyty

the big axe is pretty cool

[flint pike]

Don't question @sour grail they're hardcore, theyll fight you

[tough ermine]

MASSIVE, PHENOMENAL, GOD-SLAYING WEAPON
-# teeny, tiny little pants

[last bronze]

yeah you do end up trading a bit with colossals

[sour grail]

:3

[long flicker]

https://x.com/_Kinomoru/status/1818239053365719302

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[slate osprey]

MAY CHAOS! TAKE! THE WORLD!

[long flicker]

https://fixupx.com/ThypeP0_/status/1818310298560032832

[sour grail]

🥺

[noble goblet]

Visions of slug,
so to speak its like a dream...

[long flicker]

The Doll’s love may be unconditional, but this is really pushing it

[crystal meteor]

The Doll needs a raise

[long flicker]

That implies she gets paid

[crystal meteor]

She better she's important

[spare summit]

she gets paid in blood echoes

[sour grail]

tru

[olive lintel]

hmm

debating whether to upgrade cleric candlestick or golden ritual spear for my xanthous spellsword set

[final smelt]

spear

[olive lintel]

moonlight greatsword actually looks really good with the xanthous fit I came up with

But I am a pyro build

So its damage is doodoo

[sour grail]

invaded, killed 2 cooperators then got knowledge checked by host martial arts

mohging

[flint pike]

Oh no

[flint pike]

Did you see my silly host nuke the other day?

https://clips.twitch.tv/SparklingUgliestSpiderPanicVis-a1StNSr5Vu1kPivj

[bitter ridge]

That AoW is such pranks

[noble plover]

1400 damage jfc

i saw that clip before but it still staggers me a bit

[sour grail]

nihil

got him

:D

[noble plover]

ayyyyy

are you headed for the DLC, then?

[sour grail]

hmmm, i suppose I could yeah

got to the haligtree as well

maybe I'll grab it tmrw

need to find some better settings for the game on my laptop in case I play on it... hmm

I'll stress test it some other time

mohg was a banger fight tho, I liked it

pretty fair (even though he had crazy reach)

and the p2 music slapped

[final smelt]

the crazy thing is someone found a consistant way to beat him

malikiet too

[sour grail]

i just saw a carian retaliation vid in my recommended

crazy

[long flicker]

Oh? 👀

[final smelt]

https://youtu.be/IfytsjsKkqQ?feature=shared

iron pineapple did this at sl1

https://youtu.be/yJ6fVkH3qy4?feature=shared&t=1292

so radhann isnt actully required for the dlc?

[sour grail]

holy crap

[long flicker]

Wait what

[final smelt]

he doesnt mention raddhan at all

so thats my assumption

maybe idk

good chance im just wrong

nvm i am wrong

theres a speedrun that does fight raddahn

[sour grail]

🐴 🤏

[final smelt]

yeah it is requried

that makes me sad

i do hope someone makes a mod that lets you just skip to the dlc

it has to be possible right

or something that force unlocks the grace in the starting zone of it

[sour grail]

hmmm

i wonder if i'll level out of the pvp bracket, the non-gank invasions were fun

but no shade for people who team up, especially if they're just exploring and i've just popped in

[final smelt]

i think my next soulslike run will be powerstanced ds2 run

[potent pewter]

powerstanced crypt blackswords my beloved

[final smelt]

i thought baout is katanas the best or worst idea

because my thought is maybe ill only use up half the durablity

split betwene the two katanas

[final smelt]

i forgot how odd the explorer starting equpiment is

a spell resist ring, some bolts, magic resin, prisom stones,russted coin, repair powerd, and a lockstone

[long flicker]

Everything an explorer needs*!
*other than a good weapon

[final smelt]

im chosing it purely because it starts with a dagger

and itsnt the sorcere

so i can poerstance daggers

also is this not a goofy stat

[flint pike]

I sitll get good invasions at level 200

and they tend to be pretty silly

[flint pike]

Shard of alex, divine beast head, divine beast talisman = BIG NUMBY

[noble plover]

hey everyone, did you know that the LGS poise damage buff in the latest patch is PVP only? on a related note, ow.

[flint pike]

It's in pve too! It didnt used to hitstun most enemies

it now ntoably does on heavy attacks etc

and lighter enemies on the lgiht attacks

stuff like the running 1hnad heavyi s now a great opener

[noble plover]

the patch notes say PVP only? and when i was doing my ||fire knight|| farming run earlier tonight they were poising through multiple hits

[flint pike]

Fire knights abosloteuy get flinched if you're hitting them with the heavy

General balance adjustments

Increased damage animation of the Light Greatsword charge attacks against enemies (other than players).

[noble plover]

i was definitely not experiencing that

and i don't think "damage animation" means poise damage

since they specifically say "poise damage" elsewhere in the patch notes

[flint pike]

All i can say as someonef who's maining the Milady, and generally demolsihing Fire Knights when i'm not arsing around

my expreince is different

I am gonna go check now thoguh

[noble plover]

yeah i dunno, maybe i was doing something wrong, or catching them when they had hyperarmor

because my playstyle does focus on rushing and stunlocking opponents

and it was distinctly not working with the Milady when it was with my other weapons

[flint pike]

Oh huh

You're quite right, tehy seem to be very difficutl to make fliunch with Milady

i think it's mostly hyper armolr

because if you hit htem wehn tehy're not attackign the d agger knights will abosloteuy flinch

But the colossal knights are very hard if not impossible to make flinch

that said, Wing stance R1 and R2 will flinch them no matter what i belive

And milady's recovery is so fast you can often go poke into parry

So my apologies for being wrong here @noble plover I dunno why i had it in my head they'd flinch

I think ti is you have to hit htem in entural stance and htey'll flinch, and only on some attacks of milady, and they're so aggressive that neutral stance hits are actually very rare

[noble plover]

lol i went and checked too to make sure i wasn't losing my mind

yeah, hard to catch them when they're not in motion

i think the heavy Wing Stance attack does flinch them, provided you don't get knocked out of the air first

ah, yeah, you said that

i think it's just a rough adjustment for me given that i usually run stuff like greataxes and greathammers

[flint pike]

Sincere apologies again! I hate endingu p giving misinformation like that, nd making someone doubt themselves 😦

[noble plover]

no worries! it's a lot of information to keep straight

[flint pike]

Okay, charged heavies can avbsoloteuy poise break dagger knights

so that might be what i was remebering

[noble plover]

ohhhh

i didn't try charging yeah

[flint pike]

WIngstance R1 into R2 will stagger them for every hit and do a ton of damage (About 2/3rds oif their health bar ucrrnetly for me)

Heavy charged attacks also flinch them

i find they're very vulnerable to parries

[noble plover]

this is sounding a lot like caring about timing rather than just swinging a blunt instrument into their face 😛

i jest but i do wanna figure out Milady at some point

it just drips with style

[flint pike]

@noble plover If you can, cathc my stream someitme as i'm playing Milady almost excelsuviely currently

I find milday's strong points are: It's got a really powerful 1 hand moveset, so it pairs vey well with a casting focus or shield. Fast recovery on most of it's animations, making it very good for the poke n parry approach

Wing Stance is devasting, esp the R2 as that's a Pierce attack, so it gets the counter damage, shard buffs it, you can even get headshots with it.

actually, hang on, here

MIld dlc spoilers for Castle Ennis boss: ||https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2210356453||

This is me demolsiihg her with wing stance in a bout a minute and half

and it's nto even a clean fight

[noble plover]

oh very nice

i'm on Str/Fai so maybe i can do heavy infusion with clawmark in the offhand

slowly but surely building a repertoire of alt builds here

[flint pike]

Do rember that Clawmark is terrible for infusions

Er, wepaon buffs*

but otehr than that, you sure can

This is a level 200 build

[noble plover]

yeah, i was thinking more like, lightning spear/KLS

[flint pike]

Oh, KLS fucks absoltoeuy run that

and Milady does well two-handed and lets you use the two-hander talisman

Keen Milady is better for 1-handing, Heavy Milady is better for two-handing

[noble plover]

yeah, Chase was saying something about Heavy only being 9 AR behind Keen one-handed and something like 30 AR ahead two-handed

[flint pike]

Mhmm.

(Dex milady is also nice if you want to maintain copies for Bleed and Frostbite, as it turns into a dex weapon with those)

I'm a Dex/Faith build so i'm also double-dipping on the Dex to let me combat cast really well

as you probably saw with the cheeky heal in there

In my c ase, my stats are... 60 vig, 35 Mind, 25 End, 12 Str, 80 dex (70 + Curseblade Mask and MIlicent's Prothesis), 7 int, 60 faith, 10 arcane

With a prophet start

[potent pewter]

heavy also increases the stamina cost of attacks, yeah?

iirc it's like

a 20% increase in sta drain on both attack and block

[long flicker]

No? It just increases strength scaling

[potent pewter]

huh, are you sure?

[long flicker]

Yeah I'm pretty sure

Unless you're talking about heavy attacks

[potent pewter]

wack, could've sworn i read a reddit breakdown on it

nope, infusion

[long flicker]

Yeah no, infusion has no affect on stuff like that

[potent pewter]

i don't usually call r2s heavy attacks

[long flicker]

All affinities do is change scaling and add damage types/status build up

[flint pike]

I think two handing has more expensive stamina costs, to attack with h and block with , but yeah i dotn think infusion does anyhting

and if it does i would be So Mad.

[sour grail]

good to hear

[flint pike]

Though soemtiems the frequency is off. I did manage to 3v1 today thoguh, so that was nice!

(That is, i was the one, and i killed everyone else)

[sour grail]

o7

[noble plover]

150 and 200 are kind of the meta PVP levels

I think 150's a bit more popular, but some people do swear by 200

[noble goblet]

loses too many of the trade-offs that make builds fun imo

I like it when you gotta sacrifice to hit the numbers you want

[final smelt]

i think part of it is 150 is the average levle to beart the game

thats why other games were 120 usally

[noble goblet]

I like ER with mid 120s

137 lets you match both 150 and 125s

[sour grail]

i see..

[noble goblet]

so its what I do for most characters

[sour grail]

i could optimize a bit for pvp i guess

I'm about 160 now because I'm mostly a pve person, and I'll keep leveling

but it might be worth it to make some pvp characters in the future

[noble goblet]

yeah nothing wrong with that

[sour grail]

[final smelt]

i got to about 200 by the end of the dlc

[noble goblet]

my pve character for the dlc I took to about 170

and once I started looping ng+ I added 5 levels here and there

the fun part of not levelling is being able to run around with this

[sour grail]

🤑

[noble goblet]

I got that Elden Lord pocket change

😎

[sour grail]

kinda scary if you're invading

[noble goblet]

you also dont really lose anything when you die though

like I could buy a couple hundred smithing stones but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I already got enough

[final smelt]

i bought a lot of crab and smithing stones for the dlc yeah

[sour grail]

oh, I thought you dropped your runes

I have half of my physick dedicated to the twiggy cracked tear, not sure how much of a difference that makes

[noble goblet]

oh I mean even if I lose this stuff it doesn't matter, because I'm not levelling

[sour grail]

I see

[noble goblet]

like its just a number

[sour grail]

[noble plover]

Yeah, now that I'm approaching my level target I'm having to decondition myself from the "grab the runes" reflex

Like I'm just inching up my faith to get a little bit more damage out of my DK axe. I just level once or twice when I beat a boss and it's fine

[sour grail]

oh no

I have a theory that I'm going to check

I may have forgotten to remove my multiplayer password after playing with my friend

and that's why i've gotten no co-op summons

[noble plover]

Oof yeah

Been there

[sour grail]

nooo

that was it

[noble plover]

Rip in pieces

[sour grail]

well...

maybe I'll get some summons now

💀

holy crapppp

[sour grail]

urgh i'm still kinda cheesed about this 😭 but yeah maybe people are looking for help for more of the later bosses

I like cooping so much

[noble plover]

It's fun!

A lot of people are summoning for the DLC dungeons and bosses right now

[sour grail]

ooh

that could be fun too

looking at the list, i can be summoned by 135 +19/+8 somber, so probably fire giant onwards

excited...

I want to go home...

[potent pewter]

man

i forgot how obnoxious the bridge hellkite in ds1 was

really is just necessary to cheese it

because it just spams that Worst Fire Breath attack

[noble goblet]

I'm gonna be honest I never figured out how to get past it

besides going the long way

[potent pewter]

oh