#Soulslikes

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sour grail
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hello chatters

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does burning the erdtree lock you into an ending?

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I (and another friend who wants to do ranni's ending) are wondering

final smelt
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i recomend doing what quests you want done before burning it

final smelt
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it can lock out out of endings if buring the tree cancels that quest

potent pewter
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it's the cutoff point for a moderate number of side quests, but no endings

sour grail
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i see

potent pewter
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oh wait, except the disgusting doodoo devourerer

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it can lock you out of dung eater ending, but...don't do dung eater ending

final smelt
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i think it can also be for golden order

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due to the statue

sour grail
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bro has his own ending??

potent pewter
sour grail
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he gave me a key...

potent pewter
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i was mostly thinking of standard/death/ranni/frenzy

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but it locks you out of perfect order if you didn't finish

final smelt
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i would just turbo out the quests you can do right now

sour grail
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maybe that'll let me into the sewers

potent pewter
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you can do everything in the sewers without that

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just explore

sour grail
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oop

long flicker
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Help I’m trying to do a pure dex run but the serpent bone blade reminded me of how stupid the serpent fang is and now I’m tempted to do arcane instead sadcowboy

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(Also I forgot how fun the serpentbone blade is, this thing is great)

crystal meteor
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the fang?

long flicker
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Err… venomous fang not serpent fang

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It has deadly poison, but if you infuse it with poison it makes the deadly poison last the same amount of time normal poison does

crystal meteor
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ooo neat

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yeah the fist fang is so goofy LOL

long flicker
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Dammit I was trying to go pure dex so I could stagger enemies less and learn to dodge better, why must other builds be so tempting sadcowboy

final smelt
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powerstanced katanas is so fun

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just way to much fun

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i in my first playthough started as samurai and found the 2nd ugi early on and just was like

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yeah

long flicker
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That moveset is just a bit too slow for my tastes unfortunately sadcowboy

final smelt
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the cool part is when you can put golden vow on your left katana

sour grail
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i wish i had a second katana

lean cargo
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didn't start samurai?

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i can probably just make a new samurai character and drop it for oyu

sour grail
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started knight

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sorry i'm being violent rn

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that could be cool lynn gladeline I also have my eyes on Yura's questline

lean cargo
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and it annoys me

sour grail
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oop

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washing pole type beat?

lean cargo
long flicker
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I mean if you’re willing to do volcano manor stuff and kill a couple innocent tarnished eliminate your competition you can get a katana that way

lean cargo
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can't infuse ash of war, cirnge

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unless you want poison then it's fine i guess

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but it won't look as cool as having 2 of the same type

long flicker
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Yes but it does as much damage as a keen uchigatana and has a cool ash of war so

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And unique r2s

sour grail
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i haven't powerstanced anything that much

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just tried a little

sour grail
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but not as a main means of combat

lean cargo
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if you take uchi, it applies more poison foxy_laugh_giggle

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and it does bleed on top of it

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and you can put double slash on it

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which is what serpent has

long flicker
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It will also do less physical damage that way
And the serpentbone blade had deadly poison, which has some interesting properties

lean cargo
long flicker
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The 30 second duration seems bad but it also lets you use the kindred of rot’s exultation and the mushroom crown far more frequently, giving y- yeah

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Also dots are more fun to me than bleed but that’s a personal preference

flint pike
lean cargo
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oh absolutley

flint pike
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Come keep me company and laugh at my mistakes =3

sour grail
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I'll come later gladeline

crystal meteor
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When i messed around with poison, it was specifically the poison moth ash of war on some swords

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was fun

flint pike
sour grail
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just working through some stuff rn then i'll game and put the stream on the side

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:3

flint pike
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No stress! I justh ope it's enjoyable

sour grail
sour grail
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I got completely sidetracked, my bad

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:3

bitter ridge
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such a soundtrack on that beast

sour grail
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yaa

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Inseparable Sword

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cool!

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might be good for str/fth

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but more scaling in fth

lean cargo
sour grail
sour grail
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@flint pike are u already wearing the rune+ scarab? :O

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i just popped open da vod

flint pike
sour grail
long flicker
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Have fun with one of the coolest weapons in the game

sour grail
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:D

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😟

long flicker
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🙂

sour grail
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welp

long flicker
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Game what

sour grail
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I finally got my hands on the noble set

sour grail
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i DID think that the blue part of the hood was part of the chest for some reason

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not bad

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I guess i can go without seeing my hair for a while

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dual twinblades are

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interesting

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I think just 1 is better tho

bitter ridge
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Everyone I've seen running dual twinblades has just done running jump attacks, idk if it's a thing

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but also it just seems like a clunky amount of things to have

sour grail
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yeah

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oohhh

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might try a dual great stars build...

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they don't look very elegant tho

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but I suppose the Grafted Blade gs doesn't either

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I could wear the noble's set and look drippy

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or wear the deathbed set and heal allies nearby, and myself by dual wielding great stars

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1 with golden vow and 1 with prayerful strike maybe?

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the ultimate support build

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then my seal for buffs and more aoe heals

olive lintel
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I'm rly looking forward to getting back into DS3 when I get home

flint pike
sour grail
lean cargo
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eepy danny

sour grail
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indeed...

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today is whetblade day!

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then i'm going full buildcrafting mode

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I wonder what's up with fortified manor looking like the Roundtable

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i'm onto you

lean cargo
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it's a classic "hub but in the open!"

sour grail
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true...

lean cargo
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like the dark firelink in ds3

sour grail
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untended graves..

lean cargo
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pretty tended to me

sour grail
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abandoned workshop...

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yeah fr those black knights messed me up

olive lintel
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When I get home I'm gonna farm the fire witch gauntlets lmao

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that plus the crystal sage mask will give peak 'witch who will punch you in the face' vibes

flint pike
sour grail
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😌

olive lintel
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Am I off-base for conjecturing that Yuria's dress is meant to look like a dark counterpart to a fire-keeper robe?

lean cargo
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don't think so

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..this pitch-black dress resembles a mourning dress. (Dress) think it's just menat to be a mourning style thing with a dark hollow feel to it

olive lintel
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mm mm

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Meant to just be a nod to Londor being The Land About Death then

lean cargo
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yea

olive lintel
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I'm trying to workshop a new fit rn

sour grail
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:O

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send pics

olive lintel
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since I can't get the black dress til I beat the game

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Oh I can't I'm not at home lol

sour grail
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oh yea, when you do get around to it i mean

olive lintel
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I'm trying to figure out the fit before I farm/grab the items

lean cargo
sour grail
olive lintel
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I'm going for her ending lol

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So no, I can't XD

lean cargo
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sucks

olive lintel
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I did kill Leonhard to wear his mask for like

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5 minutes

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And then I killed Crystal Sage

sour grail
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can you still get the ending if she's dead but you completed the quest 🤔

olive lintel
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XD

lean cargo
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no

olive lintel
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Nah I think she's in the cutscene

sour grail
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dang

lean cargo
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she has to live past cinder

sour grail
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gotcha

olive lintel
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But yeah the current idea is the crystal sage hat, drang armor, and fire witch gauntlets and leggings

long flicker
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The fire witch gauntlets are just chefkiss

olive lintel
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I'm betting they go with the sage hat for a wonderful 'crone-warrior' look

sour grail
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hmmm... after I beat ringed city I might go bonk out some anor londo knights and assorted other covenant enemies

for ng+2 I need to get the linking ending and get the gesture from Yellowfinger Heysel

and that should be it!

olive lintel
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Are there any other armors that are black and silver?

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There's Drang Armor (which someone has 100% used to make Geralt)

crystal meteor
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🤔 faraam armor set, maybe?

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no not enough black

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drakeblood comes to mind

potent pewter
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wait, is this ds3?

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i didn't remember the faraam set returning in ds3

olive lintel
potent pewter
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entirely did not remember the faraam set being in 3 as well

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how much does it look like the one in 2?

long flicker
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Identically

potent pewter
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aww, it's swapped out the green for blue

final smelt
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i always find it really wierd how late it is in ds2

potent pewter
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helmet's the most important part though

final smelt
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you cant get it until drangleic castel

olive lintel
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I agree topple

potent pewter
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yeah, it's a bit weird that it's like

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50% in

final smelt
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it kinda doesnt feel iconic because of it

olive lintel
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Which is why I am probably not gonna use it cuz I'm wearing the sage hat

potent pewter
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unfort

olive lintel
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the faraam knight is my favorite box art set lol

final smelt
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honestly alva feels more like the iconic knight set of 2

potent pewter
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wait, what's ds3's box art outfit?

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i don't even know its name

final smelt
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there isnt one

olive lintel
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soul of cinder

final smelt
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its just soul of cinder

olive lintel
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So technically the firelink set

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Very, very technically

potent pewter
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the elite knight set is pretty iconic though

olive lintel
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elite knight is probably the most iconic aye

potent pewter
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ds2 has like

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several of my favorite armor sets

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between the lion mage outfit, the faraam armor, the alva set

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oh, i really like the archdrake armor

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and straid's set

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would love to see some of those reappear in the next from game

olive lintel
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The archdrake set is pretty peak

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Also when I get home I gotta shank the old demon king for chaos bed vestiges

final smelt
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my favorite is the royal silkder set

olive lintel
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Which will be very funny cuz then it'll take up my two attunement slots

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I know one spell

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The spell of blow you the fuck up

potent pewter
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oh, i don't love that armor

final smelt
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its one of my favorites

olive lintel
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This person paired the Nameless King's armor with the fire witch leggings and honestly

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drip

lean cargo
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god i fucking love nameless king's drip

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peak

sour grail
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ooh that's cool

olive lintel
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I think I'm gonna get my attunement to 18 and keep it there

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So I can slot Chaos Vestiges and Fire Orb

sour grail
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nokstella time!

sour grail
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did it, got a ring, beat astel

flint pike
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Woo!

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Time for marriage? Time for Marriage!

sour grail
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i went up to the body and nothing

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welll

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maybe i'll check roundtable

final smelt
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check a chest where renella is i thnk

sour grail
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yeah I have the ring

final smelt
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that should be it then

sour grail
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oh

final smelt
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you killed the baleful shadow?

sour grail
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yep

final smelt
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did you try interacting with the body near the fingers

sour grail
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no

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i did not see one

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i'll go back

final smelt
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go to the chapel after astel

sour grail
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o

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i did not see a well

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not getting summoned for cooperation

flint pike
sour grail
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moonlight greatsword

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😌

sour grail
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oh 😭 I forgot weapon levels affected matchmaking

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it's probably safe to say my +9 grafted blade gs has stopped me from getting summoned for radahn and before, +17 is pretty high I think

lean cargo
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this is so fucking funny to me

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like am i reading it right or can you invade +7 but you can only be invaded by +10 foxy_laugh_giggle

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i mean i guess i get it caues it's a dogshit invade system where you'll only invade into a gank

sour grail
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😭

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i think you are reading it right

potent pewter
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you can punch up but you're not allowed to bully people

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fromsoft Has Seen ds3 pvp

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which was just level 1 twinks with +10 weapons invading new players on the high wall of lothric

long flicker
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No, three also had the weapon upgrade invasion system

sour grail
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yeah pvp seems fine

long flicker
sour grail
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I just want to help people because it's fun to vibe, but I forgot making my own weapon too strong would lock me out of weapon upgrade ranges

potent pewter
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oh, i wonder when they patched that

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i have painful memories of fighting +10s with my normal twink builds

lean cargo
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yeah no, i'm not understanding this calc
i think their "can be invaded by" calc is off

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specificlaly the lower limit

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cause wtf do you mean i can invade a +6 to +10 as a +8
but only +10 is gonna come to me 😭

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wacky ass system

final smelt
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they added the system to darksouls 1 remaster which did not work

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it made things worse

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cause you can't upgrade catalysts in ds1

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so people just made magic builds that would be fighting low levels pretyt easily

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this was already a thing before but this just made it worse since they would be fighting 0-2 weapon levels

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at least before when it was only sl they could run into otheres who had low sl but high levle gear

long flicker
potent pewter
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hmm

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I'm pretty sure it wasn't, but you've got me wondering whether it was just cheaters

long flicker
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Welp, time to continue my pure dex playthr- ROSE NO

sour grail
noble plover
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Casting claims another one

sour grail
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magic sounds cool

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when i respec for mlgs I will be slinging spells too

olive lintel
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Me currently

noble plover
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I do need to try a dedicated caster build

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My vice is in the opposite direction; despite my desire to experiment I keep ending up at a two-handed build

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I am addicted to the bonk 😔

olive lintel
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My build of choice from video games to ttrpgs is spellswords

sour grail
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ok, I'm going into the Lands Between

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so many options

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start off with the longsword, switch to uchi for a bit

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acquire Grafted Blade greatsword

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it's now +9

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and I want to use 3 other UGS as well

final smelt
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which ones

noble plover
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Basically the only reason I'm not using the zweihander right now is that I want to do a DS1 run with it as my main weapon

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I know the two games are super different but shh, it's the principle 😛

sour grail
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Godslayer, Radahn, and one that can be infused

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want to try out Cragblade and Lion's Claw

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welcome back Wolf Knight Greatsword

noble plover
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is the infusable one like a real sword or just a giant chunk of metal? that's either the zweihander or the greatsword, depending

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Also Lion's Claw is fun

sour grail
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I did level a twinblade and a couple of katanas to mix it up, but I keep going back to bonk

sour grail
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just any that can be infused will work

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so I have Claymore, Flamberge, Zweihander, or Greatsword™️ to choose from iirc

noble plover
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Ah, Options(TM)

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This is where I'm at too

olive lintel
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Anyone have one handed weapon recs for a pyro build in ds3?

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Or is Vibing It ™️ fine

noble plover
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Currently rotating through a menagerie of heavy/quality DLC weapons

final smelt
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demon scar, is the only one i know off hand

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thats works with pyromancy

last bronze
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obligatory 'onyx blade'

final smelt
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one handed

olive lintel
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eeeeehhh, not keen on my catalyst being my main weapon as well

final smelt
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otherwise yeah oynx blade and demon fire axe

olive lintel
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Or at least not crazy about it kind of

last bronze
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you only need 14 str 12 dex to onehand it

olive lintel
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just being some vaguely sword shaped fire

final smelt
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ringed stright sword

olive lintel
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By one handed I mean 'isn't wielded via it being a fantasy game'

spare summit
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RSS

olive lintel
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something one reasonably wields in a single hand lol

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RSS?

spare summit
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Ringed Straight Sword

olive lintel
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Royal Straight Sword?

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Ah

last bronze
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lothric knight sword is a classic

spare summit
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Dark Dark Sword lol

olive lintel
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sadly I do not have any dlc, forgot to mention that

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I do have a dark sword tho lmao

final smelt
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oh no dlc then yeah no scar or ringed

last bronze
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there's also good old longsword

lean cargo
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Weak sauce then

final smelt
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so yeah there is no actyal pryoancer poetions then demon axe, and demon fist

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and firelink maybe

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yeah firelink sword

lean cargo
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Peak sauce

olive lintel
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I could do a Dark Astora Straight Sword when I get to High Wall

lean cargo
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Firelink is from end boss

last bronze
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deep battle axe usually takes me through early game

lean cargo
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I just kinda take a lothario knight sword

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Peak weapon

olive lintel
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GOD DAMN IT I COULDA HAD THE ASTORA SWORD ALREADY

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I'M JUST DUMB

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XDDDDDDDDDD

spare summit
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didn’t do dancer first

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Hate 2 C it

olive lintel
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?

last bronze
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raw astora straight sword is ok early

olive lintel
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Currently I have an Irithyll sword

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which has worked

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frostbite is still relatively mean

last bronze
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i think it falls behind longsword at some upgrade level or another though

lean cargo
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Isn't high wall like

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Right after vorst

spare summit
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Killing Dancer prior to Vordt to go get strong weapons and upgrade materials early is my asinine meme route

olive lintel
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and the classic 'fire resets frostbite' applies

last bronze
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yeah that seems fine although fire and frostbite interact so you'll have to pay attention to that

spare summit
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Kill Emma

lean cargo
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Skill

last bronze
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beat up an old lady

olive lintel
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Who

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Who is Emma

spare summit
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The old woman in the church

lean cargo
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She gives you the babner

last bronze
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the old lady in dancer's room, who gives you the banner

lean cargo
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Shank her

olive lintel
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Oh

spare summit
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If you kill her it starts an early Dancer fight

olive lintel
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But why tho

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Would you kill her?

spare summit
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Dancer First is a weaker fight

lean cargo
spare summit
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Than the real dancer

lean cargo
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?

olive lintel
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Wait there's two fights with her?

lean cargo
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That's first

spare summit
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No no

sour grail
# lean cargo

why didn't firelink greatsword get that SoC combo 😔

spare summit
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If you fight the Dancer of the Boreal Valley before Vordt you get a weaker version of the boss fight

sour grail
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soul of cinder

lean cargo
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Soc on deez nuts?

sour grail
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the phase 2 juggle

lean cargo
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Ah

sour grail
olive lintel
spare summit
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I do it for the memes

final smelt
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ive never heard of this weaker fight thing

spare summit
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It’s still unreasonably hard

sour grail
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is the deep battle axe the best for early dancer?

olive lintel
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What's 'unreasonably hard'?

lean cargo
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????

olive lintel
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Cuz I'm

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Not struggling with the game so far lmao

lean cargo
olive lintel
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And I'm in Irithyll

lean cargo
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That's not a thing lmao

final smelt
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yeah i don't think so

spare summit
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You get killed in two hits by Dancer first

lean cargo
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Armor? Levels?

sour grail
olive lintel
sour grail
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I got all my whetblades yesterday, I'm hyped

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customization galore

final smelt
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yeah damage in ds3 is really goofy since they removed armor leveling

olive lintel
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Cuz like

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Vordt would two-shot me

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I killed him first try anyways lol

spare summit
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You know how Dancer does combo attacks where if you get touched once, you get hit more times

sour grail
olive lintel
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I am squimshy

sour grail
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uishy

olive lintel
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Ah

sour grail
olive lintel
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I see

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Yeah my Vitality is like

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14?

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Admittedly my highest stat is 18 but that's because melee pyro kind of just

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be like that

lean cargo
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If you don't kill vordt first

spare summit
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Anyways I was led to believe that the version of Dancer you fight if you challenge her prior to Vordt is the version from the DS3 demo

lean cargo
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You can summon sword master for damcer

spare summit
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But

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This may not be the case idk

lean cargo
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Yeah idk where you heard that
It's probably newbie bait tho

spare summit
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You can however summon Sword Master, who is an absolute beast of a summon

lean cargo
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Only before vordt is dead

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Funnily enough

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If you try to summon the other dude

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He'll separation stone out

final smelt
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only if you do via the emma kill method

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i think

lean cargo
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Ye

olive lintel
# olive lintel Me currently

When I get home the chest is getting replaced with drang and I'm farming the fire witch gauntlets and leggings

lean cargo
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He also won't be available for vordt if you do that

olive lintel
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Armored Witch

final smelt
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if you don't do te emma kill i think he helps

lean cargo
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Ye

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Imagine not doing dancer early tho

sour grail
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yeah

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imagine

lean cargo
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Danny is weak sauce

sour grail
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why would I kill the nice old lady

lean cargo
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Early mats

sour grail
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i did do it early on ng+

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but at that point that's not a huge deal

lean cargo
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Also means you can go fight a different boss early

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and another

spare summit
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the very first days of DS3 were a lawless era

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no one knew what was going on, people thought the Darkened Shrine was a copypasta

long flicker
lean cargo
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No

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Cause I never used him

lean cargo
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C"

sour grail
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yeah, it does sound nice to play these games on release

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but benefiting from peeps' years of wisdom isn't too bad I suppose

spare summit
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playing on release is a fascinating time

sour grail
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just means I don't get to go in completely blind

sour grail
lean cargo
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Yeah

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Going to ng+2 on main char

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Then seeing a post

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"Secret area with secret boss found"

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Pain

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I'm kinda glad they stopped the "get emote to get secret area" mostly

sour grail
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🐰 spotted

lean cargo
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Bnuuy

final smelt
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was that only a thing in 3 and really really obious things in er

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where they just outright tell you the emote

sour grail
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idk what's up with uhh

lean cargo
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In er it's less obvious

sour grail
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erudition required ahead

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or whatever in liurnia

lean cargo
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You need Erudition emote/spell

final smelt
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yeah thats the actual name of the emote

lean cargo
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Lol

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It's for a memory stone

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Not like
Yknow

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Completely new area with a boss

final smelt
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yeah

lean cargo
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Then the DLC does it...
Locking 2 bosses...

sour grail
sour grail
lean cargo
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I like it
When there's tips on what the fuck I'm looking for

last bronze
#

i think that's skippable as well actually

lean cargo
#

Yes

#

Entirely

#

But at least DS3 has things around the area you use it in that quite clearly do the emote

#

And even a message going "yeah bub, time to meditate"

olive lintel
#

I cant wait to get back home to make my Witch Dress Armor

lean cargo
#

See, peak fashion is to rush to church, speedrun ashes dlc so you can get to the ringed city, speedrun that ans then mug the local knight populace for rkss and their armor

olive lintel
#

(I actually don't like the ringed knight stuff)

#

(it feels way too out there when part of the appeal of Dark Souls for me is being a more 'mundane' looking character, even if I look pretty fantastical, while taking out dragons or gods or whatever)

sour grail
#

castle...

slate osprey
#

Castle

#

Terrible location for a castle mind you

sour grail
#

true!

#

beat the guy

#

that sword was scary!

#

very cool boss room

#

I gave millicent the prosthesis, not sure what happens next

bitter ridge
#

Oh how I wish that sword ash was a stance

sour grail
#

i don't like where this is going

bitter ridge
#

but cool arm

sour grail
#

yes

#

very...

bitter ridge
#

ignore any naming convention or resemblance to anything or cryptic sages

sour grail
#

mhm

#

and the skill that she uses in battle

#

😌

bitter ridge
#

that's just Millicent's Cool Move

sour grail
bitter ridge
#

still a weird fight to be summonable for but thanks for the help, Mill

sour grail
#

hmm interesting area to the east, guess that's part of the mountaintops

#

this area with the ladders and mountains reminds me a bit of pokemon or 2D zelda for some reason

sour grail
#

ok I'm ready to explore volcano manor

bitter ridge
#

Just dodge and hit

flint pike
sour grail
flint pike
#

I gotta play Celeste sometime

sour grail
#

😌

#

it's a good time

#

anyways, good progress today

#

uchi is fun, made it heavy

#

might try out Nagikaba, take a break from the bonks

#

could respec into int too

flint pike
#

Nagakiba is good

sour grail
#

longggg

noble plover
#

r e a c h

lean cargo
#

why teh hell did they go from 999 arrows to 99

#

feels like such a wack change

final smelt
#

its a really stupid change

#

its even worse when you take in account they have so much less damage

lean cargo
#

mmm yes

#

bow op, too much ammo and damage

#

let's nuek it

#

oh, let's add a spell that you can buff by 50% by using 1 staff, 1 hat and just that spell

#

smortsoftware

sour grail
#

true

lean cargo
#

like

#

i get the whole "they're pretty good at clearing areas from a safe distance"

#

but like

#

magic just completely fucking throws that point into a ditch

#

hell

#

half hte weapons in the game make that point dumb

final smelt
#

thunderbolt exists and is a true univeersial weapon art

lean cargo
#

mfw it's a fucking dex scaling aow

#

i hate how they just killed lightning as a faith damage type

#

or even just like

#

star-lined sword
magic katana
but ti's better to just go dex to 80

sour grail
#

oh yeah lightning was faith before

#

dang

final smelt
#

some changes id love to see to elden ring is make more weapons diffrent within the class there is currently zero reason to use ceatus over spiked

#

buff conusmables in general both how powerful they are and how easy the yare to farm materials for, gives bows proper scaling and ammo boost

#

a good way to buff weapons within class is make stuff like the weathered strightsword and ceastus use less stamina

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and weapons that have locked ashes either make them able to change or give them subunique by making it cheaper costs wise or more powerful when on locked weapons

sour grail
#

oh ye, could someone give me some hints on getting started on the path to unlocking the dlc? all I know is mohg is required, and Varre gave me a teleport of some kind (that can't be used rn)

I'm assuming that takes you to the palace that you can see from Nokron, but I'm not sure if its activation is just story-gated or if something else has to be done to make it be the "right time" or whatever

I do know that the sewer fight gives you the shackle so it's optional

potent pewter
#

you've got the rest

#

and it sounds like you've already done the latter

#

||also you can use varre's teleport instantly lmfao||

sour grail
#

oh

#

💀

#

I guess I never actually tried it

potent pewter
#

||that man gave you zero reason ever to trust him||

sour grail
#

LMAO

potent pewter
#

||idk why you would||

#

||it's just a usable tool||

sour grail
#

I trusted the item description 😭

potent pewter
#

always touch the thing

#

you are a fromsoft protagonist

sour grail
potent pewter
#

if you haven't toucha the spaghet

#

how do you know it was real?

sour grail
#

that's actually so funny

spare summit
#

SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SPAGHETT

potent pewter
#

rub your face on every item and every wall

last bronze
#

worst that can happen is that someone will kick you off a cliff and it will end up being to your advantage in the end

potent pewter
#

there's a second way to get there, without varre

#

but it's quite late into the game

#

it's in ||the consecrated snowfield, which is the "secret" side area of the post-leyndell mountaintops of the giants||

#

whereas you can just book it to varre, steal godrick's lunch money, and get to mohgwyn straight from liurnia

spare summit
#

you don't even need Godrick's lunch

potent pewter
#

yeah you do, you need to kill a shardbearer to say hi to the fingies

#

which is what unlocks varre's questline

#

so sure it can be rennala

#

but rick is the easiest

#

and right down the road

spare summit
#

sure

#

but if you're doing Wrongest% you can kill Radahn first like a champ

potent pewter
#

ig

#

fair

noble plover
#

"It's time you were off, I should think... to Castle Stormveil, on the cliff, where Grace would guide you."
[beelines to Altus, then doubles back to Caelid]
"...what the fuck, Tarnished."

lean cargo
#

nah

#

go straight to rykard

errant grove
#

Give Rykard the old snake twist

potent pewter
#

||with ymir||

#

||and he just goes "what the fuck is wrong with you, can you fucking read?"||

#

||"look at the map i already gave you jackass"||

lean cargo
#

||Oh i hear a bell, but the fucking wrong one you fucking moron. LOOK AT THE FIRST MAP||

sour grail
#

oh yeah i have to do rykard

#

i was cliff climbing last night

#

trying to get the map

noble plover
#

that was a tricky one to find

#

there's so much verticality on Mt Gelmir xP

sour grail
#

i always wanna give the hungy merchants some food but all i can do is buy stuff sadeline

lean cargo
sour grail
#

i forgot about the sell menu lmfao

lean cargo
#

Or just kill them

sour grail
#

but there's not even a working economy 😭

#

whathe

lean cargo
#

Kill them and take the bell bearing to the twin maiden huskies

noble plover
#

but then Kale will be mad at me 😦

bitter ridge
#

Elemer of the Briar..

lean cargo
#

Kill him too

#

Fuck it

noble plover
#

nooooooo

#

Kale is my friend

lean cargo
#

That's what he gets for having a cut quest line that implies he wanted the flame of frenzy ending

#

Weirdo red wearing rat bastard

sour grail
#

D:

long flicker
#

Damn, Lynn killing the lands between’s Santa, does its violence know no bounds sadcowboy

sour grail
#

didn't spawn

bitter ridge
#

Only at night and it seems you have to get right in there

#

also do they not spawn if you kill his meatform

long flicker
#

They still spawn 🙂

#

It usually takes resting at the grave twice for him to spawn for me

potent pewter
#

yeah, you've got to reset after setting to night

#

meaning a teleport or rest

sour grail
#

ohhh

#

ok

#

i got there at night

#

nothing

#

switched it to night

#

nothing

#

i'll try rest after time shift

final smelt
#

yeah you ned to make it night then move to where they are

sour grail
#
  1. The player needs to rest at the near site of grace; 2. It must be night; 3. The player needs to trigger the title of the specific location (like "Warmaster's Shack");
#

ahh i missed step 3

#

never moved far enough away

sour grail
final smelt
#

yeah good gear

#

i just hate its really hard to get to

flint pike
#

That dungeon gets dramatically easier if you know THE TRICK

#

Which is very funny

final smelt
#

the glemir dungeon is pretty easy if you know its trick

flint pike
#

The trick is to have Margit's Shackle, run along to the point where you can see all three chariots

#

and slam it into the ground

#

and then it'll autoamtically set shit up so they';ll crash

#

it's hilarious

final smelt
#

thats funny

#

but i was honestly more thinkog of ordovis and his friend

flint pike
#

Oh, yeah, they're assholes

#

Even knowing that those have a giant weakness to parry doesnt make em that much easier

final smelt
#

i already don't like the shield ones in general

#

they feel unfair compared to pretty much anything else in the game

sour grail
#

thankfully shield guy is faster than lance guy

#

so i treated it like a scuffed regular duo fight

#

well, lance guy was less aggressive in melee

#

still random screenwide projectiles

final smelt
#

i want to do a crucbale knight run

#

but geting the gear is really annoying

sour grail
#

I think I saw a friend stunlock malenia with ordovis' sword

#

it looked really funny

final smelt
#

maleina has really low poise

sour grail
final smelt
#

i think she might actully have the lowest poise of anything that isnt an invader

sour grail
#

alecto is beating my ass

#

I'll win (tmrw)

final smelt
#

its aboustely a stray to just keep her staggered maleina that is

#

if you have a weapon tha staggers every hit you can hit her a few times before she gains stagger armor

sour grail
#

I panicked when I got her to really low hp, and mental stacked myself

flint pike
#

Oh nooo

flint pike
#

because uh, it turns out stormcaller guardiansword spear?

#

Yeah

#

Uh

#

...Yeah.

final smelt
#

i beat her no summons last time

#

with morggot sword

sour grail
#

that sword looks sooooo cool

final smelt
#

its a good sword

sour grail
#

sadly

final smelt
#

but its very all or nothing statwise

sour grail
#

I don't have the dex, O I don't have the dex

final smelt
#

you pretty much only want to ues it on dex/arcane bulds

olive lintel
#

Is moonlight greatsword viable on a pyromancy build in ds3?

lean cargo
#

probably yeah

#

just level your int higher than your fth

#

won't make a big diff since pyromancy flames scale equally with both

final smelt
#

trying to think what i should start leveling now

lean cargo
#

vigor to 60

sour grail
#

hand it over, that thing, your 40 mind

potent pewter
#

what build is this?

#

with 12/18/30 mentals

lean cargo
#

could be a min req thing

#

rings of spectral light or sumtin

final smelt
#

im using morgotts sword

lean cargo
#

why the fth then RutileThinking

final smelt
#

support spells that don't scale

long flicker
sour grail
#

support spells go hard

#

working towards 25 for golden vow, faith is more fun than i expected

final smelt
#

morgott's art does fire daamge so flame give me str is pretty good if i just want a fight to end fast

sour grail
#

omg

#

flame give me strength looks crazy good

#

20% phys??

lean cargo
#

ye

#

20 phys, 20 fire, 5/s stam reco speed

#

issue is it's a body buff

sour grail
#

hmm

lean cargo
#

so you can't run a barrier spell or crab

sour grail
#

i don’t use any body buffs atm

#

CRAB GUY

lean cargo
#

anyways

#

howl better

sour grail
#

i should go find him

lean cargo
#

peak spell

sour grail
#

ooh

sour grail
lean cargo
#

the boss is attacking me more than usual

#

god forbid

sour grail
#

i can use this to be even more paladin-y

#

just holy ground with a shield and take the hits

lean cargo
#

paladin you say

final smelt
#

yeha crab is one of the best buffs fin the game

#

zero stat requirements

#

600 runes for 60 seconds of 20% resist

lean cargo
#

only phys

final smelt
#

yeah oops meant ot sday that

long flicker
bitter ridge
#

It's the damage taken part for me

#

Also if Madness isn't like.. in character theme which is dumb but ALAS

sour grail
#

but I guess that might make it not very exciting for the other people if they don't have to dodge at all

#

buildcrafting is fun tho!

#

and I could use this in a seamless run, if my friend and I decide to do it

lean cargo
#

i really wish madness was more

#

mad

#

and all consuming

#

like wtf do you mean i can't apply madness to bosses

sour grail
#

oh

#

😔

final smelt
#

madness is pretty much a pvp effect

#

which i wouldnt think is so stupid if it wasnt for it makes the madness stuff outside of the really goofy stuff not fun to use because most madness stuff also hits you

lean cargo
#

IF MADNESS PVP

#

WHY MAD RATS

#

peak fucking skill

#

same energy

sour grail
#

RATs

#

my friend found the rats last night

#

I need the rats

#

I will +10 the rats

final smelt
#

rats are at windmill

long flicker
final smelt
#

its not

#

it builds up madness on yourself and the damage is kinda meh

lean cargo
#

there's only 2 good mad weapons

#

perfume nad hnad

#

because they don't apply madness to you

#

but they're bad

#

because it's madness

#

it doesn't apply to anything that's not an npc

#

lmao

long flicker
final smelt
#

i think madness shouldnt build up on you unless its one goofy strong(eye lasers) or two your in pvp

lean cargo
#

Madness by default is just fucking flawed to me

long flicker
#

Stupid evergaol vyke having a good version of his spear

long flicker
sour grail
#

maybe I should respec out of 28 int in ds3, those levels could help a lot and I'm not maining MLGS rn

lean cargo
#

Doesn't apply to 99% of enemies in the game
Applies to you on every action
Doesn't provide anything meaningful to you unless you use the Mad exulation talisman ONLY ADDED IN THE DLC (or dumpling head

long flicker
#

(Technically the black dumpling head exists)

final smelt
#

this stance dlc art i found seems like it would be cool if it didn't take an hour just to get into stance

lean cargo
#

I forgot about it because it's very rarely used and most challenge runs use stat heads instead

long flicker
#

For the madness incantations, I see the self madness build up as a cost for how stupidly good and efficient flame of frenzy and frenzied burst are, and honestly with those two you’ll basically never get a madness proc unless you’re spamming them non stop
So I wouldn’t consider vyke’s self madness build up too big of an issue if it was actually good

lean cargo
#

It's mainly just a case of

#

like

#

what's the incentive here

#

is the damage that much better than other incants that it's just such a must have and the madness proc evens it out or
cause i don't feel like it does that

long flicker
#

Having used it, the frenzied flame is genuinely that good

lean cargo
#

if i'm using mad exult + dumpling head then sure but like
i can also just use rot/bleed exult and get the same effect without proccing bleed or rot on myself

final smelt
#

its basicly a better storm assault

#

kinda

lean cargo
#

like i know you can make it do crazy damage but like

long flicker
#

Also again, you won’t get hit with a madness proc unless you are actively trying to

lean cargo
#

Or i can just use other incants, get similar levels of damage and not risk getting a stunlock cause my eye hurty

#

i think i'm jsut disappointed frenzy flame is just flame but yellow and self inflicts damage if you use it too much

#

as opposed to this all consuming flame that's feared across lands

final smelt
#

i do think its valid having maddness stuff cost less

#

for their damage i just think specificly the war spear isnt that

#

its slightly better stormassaut

#

on a pike with a good moveset

#

actully it might be a worse storm asault thinking about it

#

sotrm assault probally scales better long term

lean cargo
#

at best you'll get a B dex adn C faith scaling on vyke

#

and it's split damage

final smelt
#

one thing i really like about morgott is its physical but its art has fire

#

so even if something resists fire you still got a decent weapo

lean cargo
#

i'll do a madness run eventually but meh

#

i wish i could madness people more

#

or if it afflicted like a dot or something

#

why don't we have fire dots

#

let me set people on fier

final smelt
#

honestlly a intresting way pve madness could work is turn it into a debuff effect

#

think milos shreak

lean cargo
#

Better yet

#

Make it a fucking truly mad buff

#

15% more damage dealt
20% more damage taken

#

For you AND enemies

#

Fuck it, we ball

bitter ridge
#

The Flame of Frenzy base spell is so outlandishly strong it needs the debuff to maintain handle

#

It's enormous incredibly fp cheap and stunlocks bosses in like two casts

spare summit
#

Madness is already juiced as hell in PvE because it's pure fire damage and hits HARD

bitter ridge
#

Discus of Light and Flame of Frenzy can probably kill the whole game

spare summit
#

those spells are already crazy except for, like, Howl of Shabriri and the genuinely not great DLC Madness spell

#

Unendurable Frenzy is gimmicky and niche but it cooks when you get the right moment for it

bitter ridge
#

They nerfed the grab too much imo

lean cargo
#

really hope next soulslike from them doens't have anything like this 😔

bitter ridge
#

( well bugfixed but still )

lean cargo
#

none of this "haha, look at it, ain't it cool?" and then it's just a terrible thing

#

looking at you, vyke's dragonbolt

bitter ridge
#

I'll never understand why it's carry weight

spare summit
#

I'm gonna be real

bitter ridge
#

If it had just a slight more damage boost or any other body buff it'd be fine

lean cargo
#

i'll never understand why IT HAS THE SAME SCALING AS ELECTRIFY ARMAMENT

spare summit
#

cool-looking stuff that's not good is a Souls fixture

lean cargo
#

peak funny blessing
why do you exist

bitter ridge
#

||Electrocharge|| in the dlc somehow worse than both

sour grail
#

so real...

lean cargo
#

now hold on a minute

sour grail
#

but I will make it work....

#

i just need to lock in

bitter ridge
#

The true path

lean cargo
spare summit
bitter ridge
#

I get knocked out of the endlag of Scarlet Aeonia every time but it's so worth it

bitter ridge
#

||Electrocharge is adding almost literally nothing to that equation||

sour grail
#

I'm wearing the noble set and getting my ass beat but dang i look nice

long flicker
sour grail
sour grail
sour grail
#

it's me, I'm dead in a ditch

lean cargo
#

danny

#

go get the other noble set

sour grail
#

⁉️

lean cargo
sour grail
#

buh

#

i am not wearing that

lean cargo
#

it makes noble presence better

#

Thrust out belly with gusto to produce a shockwave that knocks back nearby foes. Charging enhances potency, knocking enemies into the air.

#

god i wish we got their fat roll

spare summit
#

Noble Presence is kind of a really strong spell

#

mostly for PvPing

lean cargo
#

where's Noble Travel

#

let me get super fat and spin at people

sour grail
#

torrent reskin

long flicker
lean cargo
#

let me fucking rolllll

#

let me run over innocent nobles

final smelt
#

im really glad i looked this boss's resistances up now i know why im doing so little damage

potent pewter
#

who ya fighting?

final smelt
#

40 slash resist 25 fire

#

and im using morgott's sword

#

ima just in a kinda "well what do i use now momnet"

potent pewter
#

yh but who pain

final smelt
#

a lot of the crit talismins feel really unintresting

#

or weak for what they are unless you ca ncombo stun

sour grail
#

oh

final smelt
#

i beat my first boss of the ER DLC

spare summit
#

Hell yell

sour grail
#

yayyy

#

I've joined volcano manor but i ended up just sneaking around

sour grail
#

🕵️

final smelt
#

i think ima respect out of arcane

#

or at least to min for morgott sword

#

the sword is good but its not seeing much action in the dlc

#

unless i just need ot kill a invader or npc

sour grail
#

oop more spoilies in bideo game discussion 😔

sour grail
final smelt
#

yeah

noble plover
#

Innate bleed + bloodflame weapon art

#

It's pretty sweet

sour grail
#

whoaaa

#

sick

noble plover
#

It's what I beat the game with my first time around

#

The weapon art has some windup so landing it takes some practice

#

But once you figure it out, it's fantastic

final smelt
#

i think if ER removed all dragon breath attacks

#

the game woudl be a lot better

sour grail
#

i want to fight dragons and not dragon feet

final smelt
#

seriously nobody likes them they are way too damaging

#

and they are near impossible to dodge

sour grail
#

yeahh

#

for agheel I could run around the lake with torrent

#

for adula it was kinda doomed

final smelt
#

one of the dlc bosses would honestly be one of the best best bosses in the game

#

if it did not have breath attacks

sour grail
#

I only won because I had blackflame, my friend had a horrible time trying to fight her normally without knowing you can sometimes run left from the fire strafing run

sour grail
#

i miss midir

final smelt
#

did you know his laser attacks are actully melee attacks

sour grail
#

⁉️

final smelt
#

yeah coding wise

sour grail
#

what can you do with that knowledge

spare summit
#

parry the laser

#

nah idk there's probably something there

sour grail
#

oh yeah it is cool to know gladeline i just thought there was some really devious thing you could do with it

olive lintel
#

Okay

#

I just found the female version of the conjurator (pyromancer) set

#

Imagine this with Sage's hat and fire witch gloves and leggings

#

Just

#

Ogh

sour grail
#

ooh

olive lintel
#

And it's a pyro outfit!

#

So I look like a pyro witch!

spare summit
#

Love that guy Stomp Jomperson

sour grail
#

killed eleanora

#

she looks cool

#

wonder if her armor is somewhere

potent pewter
#

yes

final smelt
#

its decently late though

sour grail
#

o7

#

i can't believe they made yhorm 2

final smelt
#

rykard?

#

yeah your behind on that hes more like stormking 3

sour grail
#

he has a funny voice

#

so goofy

#

I was just running through, looking for secrets

#

I only got to the teleporter through a mid-elevator door

#

and a couple of extra rooms