Fabula Ultima

[feral bison]

very fast

[potent juniper]

helps that i got pinged

[frigid trellis]

As did I, but I wanted to share it with a friend first since he's running a game where a player is using the NatAt content when it was in the playtest docs

[feral bison]

NF reference works

[rancid river]

Oh sick now people will be talking about how insanely good the NF Villains are

[feral bison]

very important bit

[glacial swan]

niceee

[thorny sequoia]

finally, my vibe has arrived

never really played a jrpg, but princess mononoke and monster hunter fuel my veins

[glacial swan]

Would thy like free hexes forever

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/iVnV44s_sYA?si=QS6l43IrYuZB3trn next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima episode is out now!

[feral bison]

wheeee

[granite pollen]

yooo

[broken nexus]

The next continent my players will be heading to

Each of those non-named landmarks is one of but many ruins in this land

Each one more or less functioning as a BOTW-style mini-dungeon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQFlh78H6n8 we wild arms now

The Land of Earth, The Wild Frontier of Rudona
Rudona is a land having seen great turmoil. Following an unknown catastrophe in years past, the land has been in a constant state of recovery. Remnants of an ancient civilization, large and crumbling ruins, dot the landscape. Most all of society on Rudona is central to the Capital City of the same namesake. Spread around its landscape are Frontier Towns, given short-lived names and often abandoned once the nearby ruins are believed to have been scoped out entirely. The Citizens of Rudona are a hearty folk, and are largely Altra in nature, at least seventy to eighty percent. What draws these many potential travelers and frontiersman to Rudona are the promises of ancient artifacts, relics of the ancient times, which the Museum of Rudona will buy at a high price.

One of the greatest mysteries of Rudona is the enigmatic Golem. Golem has not been seen for many many decades, and his true resting place is unknown. It is believed that if Rudona were to come under some horrible threat, Golem would rise from the earth to defend it. Furthermore, Golem has a Temple somewhere in the ruins. Legend says that the one to find the Temple of Golem will find untold riches and artifacts, and be granted a great and powerful blessing. Thus, it is believed that with the Ruins having once been one grand structure, all Ruins were once connected to the Temple of Golem. As a result, mapping out the Ruins is a long-sought after plan, and one that many people on the Frontiers will live, and often die for.

Attractive to both treasure hunters, the devout, and adventurers of all stripes, outside of city limits, Rudona is a lawless land, with only the local Sheriffs of Frontier Towns to enforce order. Collecting Artifacts is a cutthroat business, so those who come seeking their fortune had best be prepared to die for it.

[lunar siren]

My main group is setting up a bi-weekly game starting at the end of the month; we're currently going through world/character creation right now: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1350893901728448634/1351316360931709051/image.png?ex=67da97ae&is=67d9462e&hm=38f3736360cb543beaa039bb370d75366faa8e75fe2ad0af38758c5b428ea914&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[feral bison]

wooooooo

[lunar siren]

Bluestar is a loosely aligned confederation of industrial powerhouses, while Alescia is "what if K-Pop/J-Pop fandom were a country? And also vaguely Italian?" 🤌

[wraith canopy]

Sounds terrifying

[lunar siren]

we now, as of about an hour ago, also have a nation of curiously attractive fish-men merchants hanging out right above the Bluestar Confederation

[broken nexus]

Coming up with new enemies for my time travel game. Enemies are largely agents of the Chronovore, an entity that is consuming time itself. The Chronovore's agents are mindless monsters, acting as extensions of itself, and behaving without regard for self-preservation, law, morality, or concern, though they may at time show an odd intelligence.

Level 10 Enemies
Seconds - The lowest grunts, sent in waves, black skin with an effect like oil on water shimmering over them. When in Crisis, can absorb themselves into other Seconds or Minutes for healing on the larger targets.
Minutes - Bigger brute enemies, capable of soaking more hits. More solid, defined physique, with bits of white and red flesh visible through marks on skin, like scars.
Moments - Casters who manipulate time and seem to be made of light, taking the form of white-skinned floating beings cloaked in black, wispy robes and smoke.
Instants - High-DPS assassin-types, whirling black masses of claws and teeth, disappearing into pools of blackness.

Level 20 Enemies
Hours - Big, tanky enemies, usually Elites, who can take a beating and dish out massive physical damage, lots of Multi-attacks.
Days - Glass-cannon hard-hitters that can effectively go ranged or melee.
Intervals - Fast, dodgy enemies that use ranged attacks.
Spans - Stronger casters who focus on buffs and debuffs
Weeks - Champion Enemies used to wreak havoc, can consume Days and Hours for further power and healing. When defeated, will split into Minutes and Seconds.

Level 30 Enemies
Months - Bruiser-y Champions who will self-destruct after a long enough time, dealing massive damage.
Seasons - Elemental casters themed around the four seasons, usually Elites.
Midnights - Sneaky types that fly around and prey on the weak.
Fortnights - Grow stronger when smaller units are defeated.

Visually, I'm thinking Heartless when I think of these guys.

[lost forge]

I love this system

[lunar siren]

same

my party now consists of myself, an undead bard seeking revenge, her big ass scythe that is also a sentient being that can manifest a physical form at-will, a starchild who looks a lot like Leo from Guilty Gear and knows his time is numbered, and a tiny snek-girl cook 🐍

we have a fifth member who's yet to put his character together, but of his concepts, he sounds like he'll be the "normal" one of this bunch lol

[lost forge]

Deeply looking forward to kickstarter bestiary

[forest flume]

Oh hey thread

Nice

[feral bison]

🧵

[forest flume]

My friend’s setup to read all the Fabula Ultima Books

[rancid river]

FabUlt's Soundrack ignored

[forest flume]

He’s now included it in the mix

[snow hamlet]

have you guys heard of Ryuutama, the game FU is based on?

[feral bison]

yep

Cute little game with a bunch of resource management

[snow hamlet]

and i think it's great for a chill game session

[broken nexus]

Ryuutama fun

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/radjz5Fkz3s?si=dmTH_sHXUKhoaUZz Intro to Fabula Ultima Atlas, Natural Fantasy is out now!

[lament wind]

Hi

[forest flume]

Yo

[feral bison]

wahoo

[lament wind]

There's a Tome weapon?

[forest flume]

Yah!

They’re, not the best

But they’re there

And they do use caster stats

[lament wind]

So, like, do you just bap them on the head with a book? Or can you reflavor it to be a "basic" spell

[forest flume]

Yah either or really

It’ll always do physical damage but you could justify it as like

[feral bison]

It's a melee physical attack

[forest flume]

Simply doing a blast of pure force

Just a bludgeon of magic

[lament wind]

There's no distinctions between kinds of physical damage, right? No "slashing, piercing," etc.

[feral bison]

Correct

The elemental types are too important for that

(although one of the playtest variants does add "weapon affinities")

[lament wind]

Interesting

[frigid trellis]

Damage types are physical, fire, ice, electricity, earth, wind, light, dark, and poison

[lament wind]

nodnod

[frigid trellis]

Fun Fact: The poison damage type is the hardest for a player to access normally

[lament wind]

I want to make a character similar to Red XIII. A non-humanoid character who's a "red mage" mechanically

[feral bison]

oh yeah that's very doable

[frigid trellis]

There's several ways to do that

And that's without getting into optional rules

[lament wind]

What do I take with Elementalist

[feral bison]

Probably Weaponmaster
maybe Fury

maybe Chimerist

[forest flume]

Could also go arcanist

[frigid trellis]

Or Invoker

Could also do Sharpshooter, maybe TInkerer. If you do all three you can make use of magic guns and magic spells.

[lunar siren]

I managed to sidestep that difficulty by teaming up with another player playing my sentient scythe that brought me back from the dead; we ended up creating a rare weapon that does poison damage as part of the creation rules

Poison, and it's piercing, so it ignores resistances

[forest flume]

Oh fuck

Also wait another player was playing your weapon?

[lunar siren]

Is playing my weapon

XIPHOSYMBIOSIS is a wonderful quirk lol

[forest flume]

Are they like, mechanically their own character?

I have no idea how that quirk works

[lunar siren]

yup

they manifest a physical body, but their soul is tied to the weapon

this also functionally gives them two HP bars, because any HP damage that goes over their maximum overflows onto the wielder

[forest flume]

Huh

[lunar siren]

downside, of course, being that if the wielder goes down, so does the manifested body, regardless of their HP

[feral bison]

also xenoblade 2

[forest flume]

But mostly soul eater

[lunar siren]

Both Xenoblade 2 and Soul Eater have come up in separate conversations about these characters, yes 😄

[forest flume]

With how the rare weapon system works, any non martial base weapon can be made martial to compete with martials right?

[feral bison]

pretty much
the martial could also get a damage upgrade eventually tho

[forest flume]

Would there be anything stopping a weapon that wasn’t a martial from also getting that upgrade though?

[feral bison]

nope

[forest flume]

Ah alright

Yah honestly the more I see it, the rare weapon creation rules kinda makes it so eventually the only thing that matters for a weapon is the stats it uses or if it’s ranged or melee

Everything else is super malleable

[feral bison]

but it's like

Nonmartial: 4 baseline +4 upgrade is 8
Martial: 8 baseline +4 upgrade is 12

And you can't get that upgrade multiple times

[forest flume]

So it costs more then?

Oh

[feral bison]

Category becomes important with skill synergies

[forest flume]

Nvm I see it

[forest flume]

Oh true yah

So category, stats, if it’s ranged or melee

[lament wind]

Ahhh SE. Good times

[forest flume]

Another friend has gotten into Fabula ultima

[feral bison]

let's goooo

[forest flume]

Another-nother friend has gotten into Fabula Ultima

[feral bison]

dang you work fast

[forest flume]

What can I say

I’m that guy

[merry peak]

The plague got nothing on Magma

[forest flume]

True!

[queen carbon]

has anyone said "mutant" yet

[forest flume]

So like, a weapon with 2 of the same stats is pretty much always better then a weapon with 2 different stats right?

I wanna make sure I’m not missing anything

(Also I mean in that specific aspect, I know weapons have other aspects balancing them)

[feral bison]

pretty much, if you're specced into that stat

although it leaves you more vulnerable to statuses that reduce that stat

[forest flume]

Oh yah that makes sense

I forget there’s a status for every stat

Also speaking of, that only applies to combat right?

Statues I mean

[feral bison]

Nope, they apply anytime

they're a pretty good travel roll consequence because of that

[forest flume]

When do they stop?

[feral bison]

Rest scenes

or other specific effects that clear them

[forest flume]

Ah ok

[rancid river]

They do tend to have less support from Class Abilities tho. That's why Heavy Weapons get to have more base damage

[floral halo]

How prep-heavy would you say a session/arc of FabU tends to be? Flipping through it.

[feral bison]

You'll want to prep fights (but remember that there's no map)

otherwise it somewhat resists prep if your players are actively spending FP... but until they reach that point, you can basically prep as much as you're comfortable with

I'd put the most focus on "what Villains/threats are they most likely to come into contact with"

[floral halo]

📝

Generally speaking what does the gm like, do, I guess, outside of a fight or other sort of challenge? Just general "describe what's going on and react"?

Ie regular stuff

[feral bison]

Mostly yeah
I would put some emphasis on providing the hooks to get players into situations, fabula heroism tends to be somewhat reactive
for example: if you notice that an arc is about to conclude without an obvious next step, the game outright says you can narrate a "GM scene" that describes what's happening with the next villain
(GM scenes are also a good way to establish facts you don't want to be FP'd away)

[versed blaze]

Players want you to do this, even.

Because they get FP whenever villains do an Evil Plan Scene.

[feral bison]

and get XP from facing down villains

the ideal fabula campaign is kind of getting dragged into bigger and bigger Villain Plots

[feral bison]

oh also rare item rewards

[versed blaze]

Which includes Soul Treasures if you have someone with Soul Steal.

That one always trips me up.

[broken nexus]

Also

The GM in Fabula Ultima is also a player, and the game takes that into account.

Not htat it's not true in other games,but it's pretty explicit in FabU

[versed blaze]

To the degree that a lot of "GM questions" are actually answered like

"I dunno, does your group want it to work that way?"

[broken nexus]

I'm planning my next FabU game already with some Chrono Trigger vibes, time shenanigans, and it's been a blast to think of

[forest flume]

Hey gamers, I wanna run a short game to test this game out

How many games do y’all think would be good for that?

To properly get a feel for the game

[feral bison]

Press Start module

1-2 sessions

[forest flume]

There’s a module?

[potent juniper]

1 to 3 sessions at most is what i assume. 1 session for press start, potentially 1 session for world/party gen, and 1 session for off-the-module stuff

[feral bison]

(will not give you the GM prep experience because it's a module but)

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/411240/fabula-ultima-ttjrpg-press-start?src=also_purchased

[potent juniper]

it walks the entire table through the gist of the system with precon characters

[forest flume]

Oh neat

[potent juniper]

including locking mechanics til specific beats

[forest flume]

Oh that’s cool

Just like a video game tutorial

[potent juniper]

like, character sheets literally have lock icons on them

[forest flume]

That’s cool

[potent juniper]

and worldgen for the "game proper" is an all-hands-on-deck task that involves all players, hence i estimated 1 session for that after the press start session

[forest flume]

EXP can roll over 10 right?

10 is just spent to level up at the end of the session if it can right?

[feral bison]

yep

[forest flume]

Ok sweet

Don’t gotta worry about being exact

[forest flume]

What do shields do?

[rancid river]

A Bronze Shield increases your Defense by 2, a Runic Shield increases both your Defense and Magic Defense by 2, but you need the ability to equip Martial Shields to use one

They are a piece of equipment, so they take up a hand slot and can be Rare to have abilities

[forest flume]

Thanks

[snow hamlet]

Guardian class has a skill that lets you wield 2

But personally I always dispised the concept

[queen carbon]

notably I don't think (normally) shields can be used to blusgeon people but there's an improvised weapon statline and a class skill for dual wielding shields

https://tenor.com/view/door-dark-souls-3-dark-souls-iii-dark-souls-dark-souls-ii-gif-4046331747508077032

[frigid trellis]

It's a fun concept if you want to dick around with maximum tank power

[queen carbon]

it's also a very good weapon if you like rare shields, the Might stat, and defense

[frigid trellis]

Like I said, maximum tank power

[forest flume]

How well does Fabula work with 2 people?

1 GM and 2 players I mean

[potent juniper]

i condier it doable without actually having done it

[feral bison]

double their turns and health if you want some more margin for error

[forest flume]

Hmm alright

Probably want a few more then tbh

I wanna play the base game without any modifications

[frigid trellis]

Boss encounters are pretty each to scale to party size, really

[versed blaze]

It has been working for me with both of those players each playing two characters

But it was very rough with only two characters earlier

You have to build encounters very carefully to not have things they just can't handle with only two characters worth of options.

[snow hamlet]

one thing I like about FU is that even a weapon master can give some support by reducing enemy mp and giving more damaage to ally attacks

[forest flume]

Asking for clarification for the surrender/sacrifice rules

Do those apply if a character ever goes down in a fight or if the whole party goes down?

[feral bison]

Each character that hits 0 chooses between Surrender and Sacrifice

[forest flume]

Ok

Oh shit

That makes a TPK a lot more dangerous then I realized

Because I kinda assumed the entire group would have 1 surrender penalty

Not 1 for each

(Assuming no sacrifices anyway)

[feral bison]

I'd generally do like
one extra-large consequence, not five distinct ones

[forest flume]

Yah makes sense

[feral bison]

but yes "don't let anyone hit 0" is an important goal in Fabula combats

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/mNNr7QjxcIc?si=DJ2kWTZzw38TYQ2s next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[forest flume]

Honestly if I have one kinda annoying thing about classes in this game is that a lot of classes have effectively essential skills which the entire class is built around

But they’re not shown as that so it kinda just seems like every skill is equal

[feral bison]

like Bind and Summon? or something else?

[forest flume]

Bind and Summon, chimeric spells, protect, gadgets

They’re all skills which the class is kinda built around but they’re presented as just another skill

[feral bison]

mmm
slightly different cases i think
Bind and Summon, yeah none of the other skills function without them
Protect is extremely useful, but not strictly necessary for the class to be valuable
Spell Mimic, you literally can't master the class without it, there aren't enough levels available

but it's pretty easy for me to forgive the unmarked central skills when the class skill lists are a page long

[forest flume]

Fair enough

Though I’d also say like, cooking is another example for gourmet

The class does not work without it

[feral bison]

A bunch of the Atlas classes do ye

[forest flume]

Yah and like, it’s not the biggest issue

Reading through everything it becomes quickly clear if a class needs one specific skill to function

I just wish there was like, an icon or something that marked a skill as essential

Like a little star or something

[forest flume]

Do players and NPCs share a spell pool?

[broken nexus]

NPCs can choose PC spells, but the only way for a PC to get an NPC spell is to be a Chimerist

PC spells are largely better, while NPC spells can generally be more flexible

[feral bison]

There's some pretty crazy NPC spells

[forest flume]

👍

[feral bison]

(a stealthy strength of Wayfarer's Faithful Companion)

[broken nexus]

Yeah, raw damage numbers on PC spells are usually better, but NPCs can get weird with it

[forest flume]

So a wizard NPC could potentially just use flare, or they could use some weird fire spell that also weakens or something

[broken nexus]

yeah

NPCs get to have statuses on demand rather than on opportunity, because they're gonna die so they need to present a challenge

[forest flume]

Makes sense

Also, generally how strong is to strong for a NPC fighting a PC?

[feral bison]

NPCs can pretty safely go 5-10 levels above PCs

Although if you're approaching an NPC damage spike, less so

[forest flume]

Thanks

[forest flume]

What book is necromancer from?

[feral bison]

A Halloween bonus pdf on the Need website

[forest flume]

Ohhhh

[feral bison]

has a "use at your own risk" notice on it like the other holiday material

[forest flume]

What’s the other ones?

[feral bison]

A Halloween Quirk collection, a Halloween Heroic Skills collection, and the April Fool's class Ace of Cards

also a Christmas release of the crafting system that eventually ended up up split between the NF Atlas and the GM Kit

[forest flume]

Huh

[frigid trellis]

It's good stuff

[feral bison]

Ye I like them a lot

[forest flume]

One of my PCs has a custom weapon from a quirk, is there a way she can keep that weapon and still get rare weapons?

[feral bison]

Quirk weapons tend to stay strong for a good while

when the reward budget gets high enough, you can find a replacement (rare custom) weapon, but flavoring it as an upgrade

[forest flume]

Oh thanks

[forest flume]

hey whats a NPC role?

I found it on the NPC foundry sheet but I cant find rules for it in the book

[granite pollen]

is it not on pg. 302: designing npcs?

npcs in fabula are mostly the enemies you fight

[forest flume]

Yah I know, but on foundry there’s this drop-down menu called role

That does change the stats a bit

[granite pollen]

ohhh

[forest flume]

and Im wondering if thats maybe something from a supplement or something

[granite pollen]

those are part of the new bestiary rules

ye it is

[forest flume]

Ah sweet

What book?

[granite pollen]

lemme see if i can find it

i think it should be packaged as part of the newest playtest material

[forest flume]

Oh thanks

Also yah today I’m running my first session

So I’m getting my NPCs ready

[granite pollen]

it should be "quick assembly patreon preview"

[forest flume]

Rn I’m making a minor villain for session 1

[granite pollen]

nice nice

there should be rules here to make champion enemies too if that's what that villain is

[forest flume]

I’m not sure yet tbh

He’s only meant to be a minor villain

[granite pollen]

yee!

[broken nexus]

Yeah, the NPC roles are basically an additional layer to add on to building NPCs

Gives them some flavor and role abilities

[forest flume]

Cool

[static elbow]

so I'm going through Natural Fantasy and I really like the Invoker

but I cannot tell what roll to use when using the Invocation skill. or even if there is one

it's not labeled as an Attack, and it's not labeled as a Spell because that's marked as something else later in one of the heroic skills

does this just let you spend 5 MP to deal 20 damage to a target? as your action??

(for instance)

[rancid river]

Invocations Just Work™️

[feral bison]

There's no roll

[rancid river]

No roll, no chance of any kind involved (unless you are blind firing an elemental damage type into an enemy that might be Immune to it)

[static elbow]

fucking wild

[frigid trellis]

The random factor is that what Invocations you can use depends on what Well(s) you have access to

[bold jay]

next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima in 24 hours!

[static elbow]

\o/

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/LcM5lT1vQww?si=xBf6D4VGJxWdtd8G new Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[spice depot]

ah yes the Velvet Crowe class (along with mutant)

[lament wind]

I've heard that name before.

[frigid trellis]

Protag of Tales of Berseria

Very edgy lady

[lament wind]

Oh ok

Oh ok I remember her now

Why is she wearing torn clothes

[frigid trellis]

Because edge and/or sex appeal

Also her powerset involves some shape shifting

[lament wind]

Ah.

[frigid trellis]

But, ya know, mostly that middle one most likely

[lament wind]

nods

[static elbow]

I need to finish berseria one of these days

[frigid trellis]

Same

[potent juniper]

OK FabU session 0-1 done

answered first 4 worldgen questions* (quesiton 4 where we creation nations haven't been technically finalized)

[feral bison]

wooooooo

[potent juniper]

we're on floating landmasses where so far it's one big continent with some small dotted islands

we decided to go with magitech revolution with inspiration from steam machine new adoption era

nation i created was accidentally barely original: 3 kingdoms lead by 2nd-generation mythical creatures at war for forever but recently decided to present a united front on more international stage while still backstabbing each other internally. created a very military heavy, tech heavy culture that dripped down into civilians post-WWII/cold war america style.

mostly casue this corner of the continent very conveniently have 3 types of dominating terrain

yes i made australia-shaped three kingdoms

the other faction with heavy military export is a pontifex, and we're theorizing the difference between the two factions are the pontifex send their religious leaders to make big rituals at war, while the kingdoms send out elite squads all very capable of casting both fireball and fist

[potent juniper]

yes i don't have creativity for naming so i yoinked names from arknights (none of the players on the table play so we're mostly safe from ppl accidentally associating things, even i barely play)

[feral bison]

excellent

[broken nexus]

ahh yes, my favorite shape

australia

[potent juniper]

lol

[kind perch]

Increasingly tempted by this game... Has anyone here played with all three Atlases' material factored in? Does it get too jumbled?

[rancid river]

Yes I have, no it doesn't.
While the classes in the Atlases do have a slightly different feel compared to the core book classes, that difference is both minor and not very noticeable, since everyone is multiclassing

[kind perch]

Yeah the classes at least seemed pretty flexible.

[rancid river]

The thing where you 100% need to pick and choose is optional rules. You really don't want to have Camp Activities, Ability Orbs and Zero Powers in the same game

[kind perch]

Ah see that was more my comcern

[rancid river]

I'd say for an introductory campaign, pick 0 or 1. For a campaign in which everyone is experienced, pick 2, maybe 3 if they are smaller optional rules

Quirks are something that should probably always be used, but just be very careful of how your players see them: if they see Quirks as free power boosts, that will probably lead to very weird Quirk choices, and potentially a few too many things to track throughout the campaign.

If your party uses Quirks in a cohesive way, to serve the narrative, then they are absolutely great

[kind perch]

Yeah they seem like mostly a way to make a niche concept work, though if someone's idea didn't NEED one it wouldn't hurt to grab something based on usefulness

I assume there's no problem with using quirks from all three books?

[rancid river]

Not really, no. Just make sure everyone picks one that's interesting and that everyone will have fun with

[rancid river]

Yeah, there are quite a few Quirks that are way less specialized than others

[kind perch]

I can also tell the game doesn't need combat maps, but... I'm realizing how silly this sounds, would it be awkward to include them anyway?

[feral bison]

You can put a representation of the battlefield on the screen or table and move the pieces around if you want

just remember that everyone will have basically unlimited movement speed

[kind perch]

Roger

Honestly I only ask because I've been dying to get some use out of 2 Minute Tabletop's stuff, lol

[rancid river]

Just make sure you have no actual map and movement mechanics and that your players understand this, you'll be golden

[broken nexus]

You can absolutely put a map on the field, and even put the enemies on there

So long as it's understood that there's no actual mechanics to them, with some exceptions

I had a fight once where there was an NPC behind a barrier who was taking pot-shots, and they had to break down the barrier with a clock before that NPC was targetable

That's the sort of environmental stuff that Fabula THRIVES on

I'm actually putting together a head + two big hands type boss

Each hand of the boss has a clock that, when two are filled, will cause the eye on the head to open, and become vulnerable

certified zelda classic

[kind perch]

Yaaaay

[potent juniper]

actually, how should the atlases be introduced in session zero? what i've done in assistance to our GM yesterday was when the setting was discussed to be magitech industrial revolution, to double check that nothing in techno fantasy interested anyone on the table

and HF/NF haven't been talked about due to nothing in current progress has clashed any of elements in those books yet

(we were only at the step of nationbuilding through the world building walkthrough)

[feral bison]

so, for a first-time campaign I wouldn't bring them up unless someone has a character concept that really wants the extra book

[potent juniper]

fair

[feral bison]

just to keep things easier

if everyone's already interested and excited about them, you can open them up more

[potent juniper]

nodnod

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/gdr5qjDbuek?si=ILLxk9oviApNyFMy new Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[feral bison]

wahooooo

[kind perch]

How's FabUlt Foundry integration?

[forest flume]

Very good!

I’ve been running a game in it for a few weeks now

And it’s pretty alright

Only a few hiccups or stuff you need to do manually

[kind perch]

Has it got like, a lot of book content built in or is it more of a framework?

I've been doing PF2 for a while so I assume my expectations need recalibrated

[forest flume]

It has a lot of player content in it but very little GM content

For example every class is in it but no premade monsters are

As well traits you gotta do manually

[kind perch]

Gotcha

[severe moat]

I don't know if there are any modules my DM just didn't install, but we had to fill in most of the items and skills on our sheets manually. It was a very straightforward process though, even the two players we have who are new to the system had no trouble with it.

All of the framework is there and very readable though.

If you don't mind having to fill things in from time to time, Fabula Ultima in Foundry is quite good

[kind perch]

Cool cool

[somber verge]

Friends at the Table's FabU campaign has me wanting more FabU media in my life. anyone got actual plays, after action reports, or other content they'd like to recommend?

[forest flume]

Just finished a session

Kinda short due to a player needing to leave early but very nice

One of my players spent 2 Fabula points on rerolls to redeem a villain she liked

[feral bison]

incredible

[forest flume]

Also my players are finally using Fabula points just to add more stuff in general

When originally they just sorta, didn’t

2 of my players had gotten 8 Fabula points by session 3

[feral bison]

nice NICE

That's progress!

[forest flume]

Now they’re down to 6 and 5!

One of them even added a whole new NPC

And he turned out to be an old forgotten god with brain damage

[merry peak]

I feel seen

[frigid trellis]

I wish the other players in the FabUlt comapign I'm playing it would use them for adding stuff

One of them has 18!

If she'd spent three of them we could have levelled up last time!

I'd do it but I keep spending mine on my character's Quirk (spend Fab points or HP to buff spells)

[lunar siren]

Mood

though tbf we're like 2 sessions in, and a couple of the players are brand new

but it's pretty telling that most of the players have like 6-8 FP, while I'm down to about 2 lol

[severe moat]

It's really hard to drill "you can pretty much do whatever you want if you spend an FP on it" into players used to other systems

It can help to remind them that you get bonus XP for spending FP though.

[somber verge]

that's a great design. My group for another game did something FP-adjacent, and while we did eventually find some fun things to spend it on it took a while. Free XP would've loosened people up for sure.

[kind perch]

Did I hear right that there's an official FabUlt discord?

[rancid river]

Yeah, the Rooster Games server. The link is in Emanuele's Patreon description

[kind perch]

Cool cool

[forest flume]

what are the rules for allied NPCs in fights?

[feral bison]

lemme see what the GM kit suggests

[feral bison]

Suggestion 1: conditional +2 bonus
Suggestion 2: passive or limited use ability that players can call on
Suggestion 3: support-focused Soldier NPC, players choose when they take their turn

[broken nexus]

NPCs as abilities is pretty much how it's recommended

[forest flume]

thanks

[rancid river]

I've personally always used the method 2. Made a little deck of cards with different NPCs that my party gets to pick from every time they want to recruit some new helpers, and it has worked really well

[feral bison]

it's good stuff!

[forest flume]

where are these rules?

[feral bison]

The GM kit

[forest flume]

thanks

[feral bison]

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/481035/fabula-ultima-game-master-s-toolkit

[forest flume]

ah shoot yah i dont own that book

[frigid trellis]

Just gave a player my first ever original design rare weapon. ...And I think I overdid it a bit.

Combat Caster's Grimoir: A magic tome reinforced with steel, as if riveted together, a tool for combat through the arcane arts. +1 to Acc check, +4 damage. Rituals cast while the tome is equipped have a +1 added to the check. If a ritual is recorded in the Grimoire, it's DC counts as one tier lower (but only if the effect is recorded, if you make a ritual on the spot the DC is unnaffected though the +1 remains)

I'm not taking it back, they paid 2000z for it

But still

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/WuNDt_59Zgk?si=ATQ_6B_K-535ZkRv next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out!

[feral bison]

🥳

[narrow delta]

Is anyone running games for this owo

[potent juniper]

my table is just about to start session 1 next time we meet

[solid scroll]

I'm running a game as well, but yeah no vacancy

[narrow delta]

damn i'd be interested in playing if anyone has an opening

[granite pollen]

the fabula server ^ has a few games posted a week, that's a good place to start!

[forest flume]

I’m running a short game to test the system

[feral bison]

https://crystools.smug.cat/

Crystools UPDATED TO NF

[narrow delta]

i'd like to try if your still running it

[forest flume]

Sorry I’m already maxed out on players

[narrow delta]

[kind perch]

Does anyone know if Magitech gear is balanced if you just mix it in with the other stuff?

[feral bison]

We don't use Pepes here btw

[feral bison]

The Tinkerer equipment?

or something else

[kind perch]

From the Magitech expansion book

[frigid trellis]

You mean the Sci-Fi Fantasy Atlas?

[feral bison]

oh Techno Fantasy

there's not like, an exclusive gear list for it

there's sample rare items within the aesthetic but

they don't get extra power budget from being techno fantasy

[frigid trellis]

And there's nothing stopping you from using elements from all of the Atlases in one campaign

I myself have an idea for a game where each of the Atlases is a single world but they all get Losomned and then the campaign is dealing with the situation of that

[somber verge]

I really love that as a premise

[frigid trellis]

Thanks, I originally thought of it as a way to juxtipose the High Fantasy with the Techno Fantasy and have the base book be sort of the place the like, two mega cities or whatever got warped to by forces beyond any understanding

Have the history be like a war that turns cold and goes culture and such

[kind perch]

That's it I got mixed up lol

[kind perch]

Yeaaah I really like that idea... Either link them to different factions or like, working out what a high fantasy energy rifle looks like

[frigid trellis]

Handheld ballista with magic infused bolts either by special ammo or an enchantment on the weapon itself

[kind perch]

Oh you know what game had this? Paladins

[bold jay]

next trashtalk on fabula ultima in 24 hours!

[merry peak]

Fabulous

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/Eq3NDeyhfyk?si=wC5LIdzE8FBg_Vkk next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[merry peak]

Sword

Guy

[frigid trellis]

TBF they are adept at more than swords

[forest flume]

Am I supposed to choose what players my enemies target or is it meant to be random?

[frigid trellis]

Either or

[forest flume]

Ah ok

[frigid trellis]

But typically random works best so you don't focus down the healer

[forest flume]

[frigid trellis]

Mainly because the lack of battle maps means outside of flying or other narrative reasons anyone can target anyone with anything at any time

[feral bison]

Random is the default

Preprogrammed targeting conditions are also helpful

[somber verge]

is that "roll a die" random, or "deliberately spread things out"?

[feral bison]

Roll a die

[forest flume]

Ok then yah I’ll definitely start doing random

[forest flume]

Any viable way to make a martial knife dude?

[feral bison]

yeah. dancer+rogue, take Cheap Shot and Wardancer especially

[forest flume]

What do those do?

[feral bison]

Cheap shot deals more damage if you have a status effect applied (which is extra effect with dual-wielding like you can do with knives), Wardancer is also an extra damage thing that stacks with extra hits AND Dancer gives you elemental access that works well with dual-wielding

if you take Weaponmaster you can apply all those status effects yourself but you might want to upgrade to swords instead then

your choice is basically "do i want Wardancer damage or swords damage"

[forest flume]

I mean all the weaponmaster stuff works fine with knives

[feral bison]

that is also true

[forest flume]

Is the mastery skill that lets you wield 3 knives at once worth it?

[frigid trellis]

Depends on how you feel about fighting without a shirt

[feral bison]

it's stupid good

top two bannable Heroics

[forest flume]

What’s the other one?

[feral bison]

Bimagus

[forest flume]

They just slow me down

[forest flume]

Oh yah that’s fucking crazy

Goddamn, out of the 3 builds I wanna make 2 of them use the most busted heroics in the game lol

[frigid trellis]

I'm getting Bimagus on my pure caster

[forest flume]

It seems insanely strong

I just wanna play a Kishibe type who’s got like, a hundred knives stored in their coat

[broken nexus]

tits: out
knives: brandished

[forest flume]

People: stabbed

[versed blaze]

Blade Adept is also amazing with knives.

Treating them as brawling/sword/thrown weapons for other stuff opens up a lot of interesting possibilities.

[forest flume]

Wait what’s blade adept?

[versed blaze]

Heroic skill in High Fantasy. Whole bunch of bonuses for using daggers specifically.

[forest flume]

Hmmm

[versed blaze]

One player in my current game is Mutant/Dancer/Rogue, using the aforementioned Cheap Shot/Wardancer combo

But also Akromorphosis from Mutant, treating her unarmed attacks as daggers.

[forest flume]

I probably won’t go for mutant but yah rogue dancer seems really fun

[versed blaze]

Akromorphosis specifically disallows Triple Slash as well

Probably to stop you from stacking even more absurd damage

But two-weapon fighting with all the flat damage bonuses from Cheap Shot and Wardancer is great, and triple-wielding even better.

[forest flume]

Unfortunate

Hmm, I’ll probably also wanna get some magic daggers

[versed blaze]

If you're using the playtest materials, Collector Style is pretty fun there

Just keep pulling out new, different daggers

[forest flume]

Also when triple wielding, can I use any armor at all for magic armor or nah?

[versed blaze]

It requires you to equip the third weapon in your armor slot, so no

[forest flume]

Ah ok

[versed blaze]

But you can use stuff like Rogue's Dodge or Spiritist's Aura/Barrier to still have some Defense

[forest flume]

Still the extra weapon should mean I won’t miss any magical armors

I can also just get a dagger with a defensive effect

[versed blaze]

It's a bit of a glass cannon build, yeah

But you can mitigate with good DEX/INS and Dodge and stuff like that

[forest flume]

Yah dodge is really good

And I’ll probably have some kinda tank on my party

Hopefully

[versed blaze]

Fury is a good class choice too

[forest flume]

What does it have?

[versed blaze]

Frenzy makes you crit more with daggers, Adrenaline gives you more flat damage boosts as long as you're in Crisis, and Indomitable Spirit lets you spend Fabula Points for emergency healing if you have to

When you dual/triple-wield, you're always rolling HR=0 for damage

So you want as many flat damage addons as you can get

[forest flume]

Oh HR+0 attacks still add flat damage from other sources?

Good to know

[versed blaze]

Yeah, it's why things that give you free attacks like Shadow Strike are better with big damage weapons, while things that do HR=0 want multiple sources of bonus damage

[feral bison]

If you mean the dual wielding calc that's HR=0

you get all the weapons damage

[forest flume]

Ohhhh

Yah I must’ve misread then

So only your highroll doesn’t matter

Everything else still applies

[feral bison]

yep

[versed blaze]

Yup! So if you get elemental vulnerabilities, flat damage boosts, all that stuff, it still helps

And Dancer lets you do some element-shifting

[forest flume]

How?

[versed blaze]

Certain Dances have effects like "all damage you do becomes fire until the start of your next turn"

[forest flume]

Oh nice

[forest flume]

Part of me wants to go minimal might because being as much of a glass cannon as possible is very fun

But also, maybe not the best idea

[frigid trellis]

Oh it is. Cataclysm means I can spend 40 MP on one of the HR+15 spells and still have 20 leftover for a debuff spell to cast first or adjust the cost to less for certain buffing spells on allies

[forest flume]

Hey I’m a little confused about the frenzy skill

Isn’t that normally how crits work?

If the numbers are the same on the dice, you get a crit

nvm I got it

It extends crits from 6+ to 2+

[whole bobcat]

yea

[forest flume]

Ok yah I definitely wanna play this build

Attacking 3 times, stacking flat damage from all these sources and criting super often

It sounds so fun

Though while I’ve got the first 3 classes, what are some good classes to add after mastering 1 or 2 of them?

Weaponmaster is an obvious choice as a generally good class to go for for any weapon build but I feel like other then counter attack I don’t want much from that

[feral bison]

bone crusher gets you status effects which Cheap Shot likes

[forest flume]

Oh true yah

And I was already grabbing some of the status dances

So I can bone crush and then dance to get 2 status effects in 1 turn

Also, for anyone using the Fabula foundry module, how to do two weapon fighting to get rid of HR?

[whole bobcat]

What do you have right now?

Dancer, Weaponmaster and Fury?

You can dip into Rogue to get High Speed imo

oh wait you have that

[forest flume]

Yah my current idea is rogue, dancer, fury

I’m thinking about what class to pick up after I’m done with, honestly probably all 3 of them

I really wanna invest heavily

Actually maybe I won’t finish fury

I mostly care about adrenaline and frenzy there

I forget, does INT or WLP increase total MP?

[rancid river]

Page 36 and 163, Willpower increases MP

[forest flume]

That does put some annoyance on this build admittedly

I want int for my daggers but I also need MP for dancer

I’ll probably have to go with a 10 8 8 6 statline

[whole bobcat]

Then honestly i'd rec weaponmaster

its a useful one

Bone Crusher + High Speed + Two Weapon Fighting means you can put a few statuses

before a fight even starts

oh wait

no my bad

you can't do that

its free and you can't do two weapon fighting with free attacks

[feral bison]

does high speed restrict multi?

if not, you can still get a few out

[whole bobcat]

Nah it doesn't

so you can do that yeah

[forest flume]

Oh nice

[forest flume]

Can you dual weapon fighting with a shadow strike?

[feral bison]

Nope

TWF requires the attack action, not a free attack

[forest flume]

Ah ok

Speaking of which, how do I do two weapon fighting anyway?

[rancid river]

Can I ask: do you have the rulebook?

[forest flume]

yah

[rancid river]

Page 69, Two Weapon Fighting. You could just look it up with a search option

[feral bison]

Two weapons of the same category, separate attack rolls, HR=0

[forest flume]

Oh shit, I didn’t finish

I meant to ask how I do it on foundry

[rancid river]

Ah, I see

[forest flume]

Because baseline, I don’t see a button to do it

And normally it automatically includes the high roll

[forest flume]

It’s so weird to plan character builds without a character in mind tbh

Because I wanna roll for their character

[random mountain]

anyone got suggestions for fabula ultima modules for foundry?

is what i got so far

[lost forge]

great question I am looking for any intresting ones myself.

[forest flume]

Oooo I want those

[bold jay]

next trashtalk on fabula ultima in 24 hours!

[feral bison]

wahooooo

[brittle geyser]

Yayy

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/7gF-uC2r3ks?si=o0BeBOGr8f4Sb77m new Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[kindred hare]

I had a friend ask me the other day when I was talking about this game if there was anything akin to Sciel's Foretell stacks in Expedition 33, and while I couldn't really think of anything (the closest thing that came to mind was Ace of Cards's poker hands fitting her card motif in general), this video showed me that I could have brought up Flow of Yin and Yang as being like her Sun and Moon Charges; I just didn't even know that there was extra free heroic skills released last October

[somber verge]

So, I really like monster hunters hunting horn. What are some good options for pulling off a similar play style in FabU? The main gimmick in MH is that you generate buffs by hitting people with a giant instrument, then playing songs (where playing a song also lets you hit someone).

Vibrato Chanter seems like the obvious starting point, or wardancer (except that wouldn't work with a two handed weapon)

[severe moat]

In last night's session, we had someone who was just being introduced to the group, and her character chose to do this by crashing through the window of the party's room at the super secret work camp we were infiltrating/imprisoned at (long story).

Then when my character pointed out the guards would get suspicious with an extra person there, she decided to introduce herself as a journalist at the front gate of the super secret work camp the following morning. It worked.

Dumb shit (positive) like this is why I love this game.

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/BGxhkML9PCA?si=B4vcPovZLxMf88IX new Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[broken nexus]

I'm proud of the mechanics for this next little dungeon type thing my players are doing

Finding the Temple of Golem: AKA: Fabula Ultima - Steel Ball Run AKA Around Rudona in 30 Days

You've set out with your ally, Sylvester, to locate the Temple of Golem. However, you know that the Arbiter of Rot, Pytheas, with the assistance of the Arbiter of Force, Hecatoncheires, AND who you now know to be the Waters Gang, are also searching for it. And while you have knowledge on your side, they have brute force. The Ruins that dot the landscape are rumored to all connect to the Temple of Golem, but the temple itself has never been found. So, analyzing the ruins is the first step.

While on your travels, you will have to deal with the Discovery Clock(8 Points) and the Enemy Clock. (10 Points). As you travel, every Discovery will tick up your Discovery Clock, and tick down the Enemy Clock. In addition to whatever benefit you get from the Discovery. Likewise, Dangers will tick up the Enemy Clock, but not impact your Discovery Clock, as they simply make progress, likely destroying ruins in the process.

When your Clock reaches 8, you will find amongst the Ruins a Trial. These Trials will be mini-dungeons. (Think of the shrines from Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom, or Resident Evil puzzles. Upon completion of a Trial, you will be given a Clue to the full Temple, and the Discovery Clock will empty, to be filled again.

When the Enemy Clock reaches 10, they will locate the Temple, and it will instead begin a Corruption clock, ticking down. However, as all is connected, you will be able to impact the Corruption clock in the same fashion.

Additionally: If the Danger rolled is the highest value on the die, it will be two ticks on the Enemy Clock.

The journal you acquired will, in this instance, provide you the location of one of the Trials, effectively giving you a full clock upon completion of its research. As the information is outdated, but still very useful.

[somber verge]

Neat!

Additionally: If the Danger rolled is the highest value on the die, it will be two ticks on the Enemy Clock.
This might not matter in the end, but this is more likely with smaller (safer) travel die, which might not match the vibe

[broken nexus]

The travel die will be D10s pretty much throughout

The area is a sort of... post-apoc fantasy. Got some Wild ARMs influence to it.

Western themed

[bold jay]

next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima in 24 hours!

[feral bison]

wooooo

[brittle geyser]

Hell yeah

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/iP3jD_yRS5A?si=dNT8cSPJoHN37V0W next trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/a-KKde14EMc?si=9c_IuHyZzew8JsMa next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[feral bison]

hey look my buddy made some monsters
https://jama.neocities.org/jamas-fabula-compendium/

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/zIKrXc4rwAg?si=f-S17f0DRV3gr8I0 Next trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/i6X7DBxQMEo?si=05RysudUDrWfP046 new Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[feral bison]

https://modiphius.net/en-us/collections/fabula-ultima/products/fabula-ultima-atlas-natural-fantasy

NF physical now available for EU

[granite pollen]

oh shit

[austere relic]

new stuff
https://prelaunch.fabulaultima.com/

[feral bison]

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/pt/product/534820/magical-girl-class

[frigid trellis]

The link through me off a sec cause it took me to... I assume the Portugese language site?

[feral bison]

time to learn Portuguese

[frigid trellis]

changes "pt" to "en" Hack the planet

[lunar siren]

Help, our GM is threatening us with a good time: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069481856090775683/1411214182912884887/fabula_skeleton.png?ex=68b3d720&is=68b285a0&hm=129e33d3d10b370e333a2a6da002e31f1f4838e8da6e8a61d32c12a2b865d1f5&

[feral bison]

hehehe

[bold jay]

oh right, next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima in 24 hours

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/MSNBgdZc0fU?si=PxGffo6EVZNB_Dky new Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[merry hazel]

Is there going to be Fabula Ultima Custom Werks?

[bold jay]

ask in like, 7 months

[somber verge]

I guess the equivalent to LL6 is...level 10? 20? first or second heroic skill?

[feral bison]

maybe 20 yeah

[merry hazel]

And how would each video being about a specific class work?

[frigid trellis]

Could make it about specific starter comboes of 2 classes and how they can work together for a particular role

[floral halo]

Anything I should/shouldn't do wrt running a one-shot

[floral halo]

thanks

[granite pollen]

the kickstarter will have a collector's box tier

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-i-don't-need-it-thirsty-gif-6849490654043985218

[frigid trellis]

GIFs you can hear

[granite pollen]

i don't need it....

[forest flume]

Chatroom, I’m gonna start a Fabula campaign soon!

Once my Sunday pathfinder game is done

[wicked geyser]

yeeee, enjoy

[frigid trellis]

Are you gonna make the players kill god as the final boss?

[forest flume]

Maybe

Depends on the game

[frigid trellis]

But then what's the point?! flips table

Context: Every game I've run has involved killing at least one god

[forest flume]

Goddamn

[frigid trellis]

I try to run games with the intent of hitting level cap and at level cap what is left to kill but god?

[pearl token]

..what about a corrupted Soul Stream?

[somber verge]

Gotta flip the script. Kill God in the tutorial.

[cold snow]

if it's natural fantasy, the god is actually a metaphor for a natural process or nature in general, and you have to stop the villains from killing it
also probably plant or animal shaped

[floral halo]

In terms of out of combat stuff, is there any particular guidance on "what can NPCs do, especially in regards to doing things to PCs"? Like, would a lot of that stuff just be fictional positioning and acting on fails?

[feral bison]

Not a whole lot, although some of the Atlas NPCs have special abilities for nonconflict scenes

[broken nexus]

I had this really fun idea to take classic D&D modules and rework them into stuff like Fabula Ultima

[broken nexus]

So, a Conflict doesn't have to be combat. I've had several situations that were merely tense debates, where everyone was primarily using a clcok and specific rhetoric with the objective action in order to advance the argument

[floral halo]

right, but their sheets are gonna be mostly combat stuff right

[broken nexus]

They don't have to be!

A lot of stuff still has uses. Some spells aren't necessarily harmful, actions like Hinder can result in debuffs that make their rolls to progress harder. I've had bosses that limit what the PCs can do, locking down actions, I've had specific abilities they have, for example, being able to, at the end of a round, increase or decrease a specific clock by 2, etc.

Fabula's default NPCs tend to assume it's about fights-only, but you can give them abilities that affect the narrative/objectives

An example of the non-combat scene I was talking about

[floral halo]

are there examples in the book of non-combat things for npcs?

[feral bison]

Notes on how one of the HF Villains handles noncombat conflicts

pretty sure there's a better example in the TF book but i don't have that one on my phone

but like
even outside any kind of conflict scene

[broken nexus]

Scenario: The Player Characters have been branded heretics to the Holy Empire of Caerenia and its church. A Bishop has been dispatched, with her Inquisitor in tow. Bishop Cerellia and the wolf Inquisitor, Gariel, will be present, as well the head of the Order of the Oak, a knightly order that has granted the PCs sanctuary.

The Bishop has arranged this meeting, and wants to give the PCs a chance to tell their story, but she is coming from a position of initial doubt. Gariel also has ulterior motives, having been promised the hand of the woman he loves, and her father's blessing to marry her, if he secures the PCs' capture.

Innocence is a 10-point Clock. When this is full, the Bishop will be convinced of the PCs' innocence.
Guilt is an 8-point Clock. When this is full, the Bishop will be convinced of the PCs' guilt, and it will become a combat encounter.
Trust is an 8-point Clock. When this is emptied, the Order of the Oak will turn against the PCs.

Cerellia has two abilities. A Skill where she addresses the party as a whole and preaches some to them, calming their minds, as well as that of the Inquisitor. This will tick ALL clocks down by 1.

At the end of a given round, she will present her arguments in a succinct fashion, summarizing what was said, with her own spin on the words, ticking up or down any given clock by 2.

Cerellia also has the Force of Charisma Spell, which will make any number of creatures she can see suffer Shaken, as they are intimidated by her presence.

Gariel, though he is built for combat, has a Skill where he can aggressively make a bold claim based on what he has seen, or been told. When he does this, it will function as the NPC spell Rage, as the tensions rise.

He additionally may choose to challenge a PC's words as an action, forcing them to have an opposed WLP + MIG check. If they fail, the PCs' Guilt goes up AND Trust clock goes down. If they succeed, the Innocence AND Trust Clock goes up.

On their turns, they will often use either the Hinder action, trying to work their way in and get into the PCs' minds(Or that of the Order), before trying to use their skills or the Objective Action to progress their clocks.

[feral bison]

"the dragon blasts you with fire, make a check to see if it damages you or just drives you back" is fine even without anything corresponding on a statblock

the GM has pretty broad narrative authority

[broken nexus]

NPCs also have access to the Other action, just like PCs. So you can make them do... pretty much anything you want lol

The Game Master's Guide has some useful stuff, too

[bold jay]

next trashtalk on fabula ultima in 24 hours!

[forest flume]

My friend is considering playing a guardian Elementalist in my upcoming game

Using spellblade to cover for the low damage of a dual shield build

Essentially doing caster damage while being extremely tanky and not spreading his stats too thin

Another one of my players is gonna be a rogue, tinkerer, merchant

Max inventory build

[frigid trellis]

Not max until they also grab Wayfarer and Symbolist and the Heroics Skills for more IP and reduced all IP costs by one and the Zero Power that cuts all IP costs in half (rounding down as per overarching rounding rule)

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/K1U2Jx-7a1E?si=8kmc1D4fXGZpKBHO next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now, last of the corebook episode before moving onto the supplements!

[forest flume]

Ah hell yah

1 of 3 classes required for my personal favorite build

Naked asshole with 3 knives

[frigid trellis]

I do have a Fury/Rogue in one of the games I'm in. Mainly because of Playtest content though so some people may not consider them going Palm and Step Style followed by Agile Defender Style followed probably by Entropist levels to get Bullet time and also probably Dancer levels to be canon

[cold snow]

did the playtest change how heroic styles/those specific ones worked at some point? last i checked, I remember there being a clause saying you can only have one heroic style skill, but I haven't really been paying attention to them in general

[feral bison]

nah "only one Style" has stayed

[frigid trellis]

Guess I never saw that cause this is the first I'm hearing of a limit on them

[feral bison]

Middle bullet

[forest flume]

Wait what’s a heroic style?

I don’t remember reading anything about that

[cold snow]

playtest content

heroic skills that are mutually exclusive (and unique within a party) that drastically enable certain playstyles, meant to be allowed to be taken at the start of a campaign if you feel like it, without class mastery requirements, but with other, easier requirements

ema has said it's probably going to not work out, though they've mentioned maybe reworking some of the less problematic ones into regular heroics

[forest flume]

Oh ok

[floral halo]

theyre very cool but also when one is "+5 to every attack with a unique weapon also you can swap weapons for free" it definitely doesn't scream "balanced"

[forest flume]

Doesn’t seem so no

[forest flume]

Probably gonna include like, animal people in my game

[feral bison]

pog

[frigid trellis]

Good, good. Let the furry flow through you.

[high dove]

Races have no mechanical impact, just a narrative one (unless called out in their traits in which case they can invoke it for a mechanical bonus) so like

Make everyone animal people, the game can't stop you

The 8 pillars do not forbid furry jrpg

[feral bison]

the ninth pillar mandates it actually

[forest flume]

I’m aware race has no impact, I’m just talking worldbuilding

[high dove]

Then make everyone animal people

[granite pollen]

one step closer to pokemon mystery dungeon

[broken nexus]

I made them a focal point of the world's history in my game

3 of my 5 PCs chose to play them

[forest flume]

I don’t wanna

[austere relic]

kickstarter kickstarts on the kick30th of kickseptember

[granite pollen]

my kickmoney is leaving my kickwallet

[broken nexus]

hell yeah

[random mountain]

Need some inspo you guys. I'm making a rebel cell in a city and where the guards have a thing where they do more damage when commanded by an ally. I wanna get a theme for the rebels

They're gonna be about level 20 enemies rn

Ok i got sn idea. We doing circus

[bold jay]

next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultiam in 24 hours!

[forest flume]

How do contested checks work again?

[rancid river]

Page 48 of the Core Rule Book. All parties roll, and the highest number is the only winner.
Critical successes are aces that just win regardless of the result

[forest flume]

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/-PC2d3FRZyA?si=HDJXK4nEs57R5al9 Next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[feral bison]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ndg-needgames/fabula-ultima-ttjrpg-celebration-edition-bestiary-vol-i

@bold jay you're on the kickstarter page??

[bold jay]

huh what

oh neat

[somber verge]

(among other linked reviews, at the bottom, for anyone else who was curious)

[feral bison]

artbook.....

[thorny sequoia]

too many things releasing in the fall

and i want ALL of them

[austere relic]

already hit every stretch goal lul

[cold snow]

time to complete my paperback collection...

[austere relic]

ordered the deluxe edition for myself, plus some extras

[wet hearth]

422k american dollars raised in 2 and a half hours

so this is the power of JRPG fans

not bad, not bad at all

[granite pollen]

backed the level up bundle but considering whether to upgrade to the box........

[potent juniper]

the box is for sure very tempting

[granite pollen]

i can pay over time which helps a lot

[mossy finch]

As much as i want the deluxe/box, i think it's just too expensive unfortunately. Definitely picking up the Amano cover and the bestiary though

[broken nexus]

Same, yeah. I want at least something in hardback

hardback ttrpg books are superior

[mossy finch]

I hope the hardbacks continue to stay available after the KS cuz I'd love to replace all of my current fabula books with the hardback versions

[feral bison]

Should be!

[forest flume]

Chimerist can learn any NPC spell yah?

No matter how strong?

[broken nexus]

RAW yes, but like, I wouldn't let them have, say, Devastation

[forest flume]

Yah that’s the main worry I have lol

I think maybe I could justify it?

Devastation does say it should only be given to elites and champions

Which the PCs are not

[broken nexus]

maybe if your PCs are level 30 or higher it can be justified by the same rationale as NPCs

because a hearty challenge would be 10 levels ahead so the NPCs would be a full die level above

But even then I'd probably just say no XD

[forest flume]

Also they’re gonna be fighting something 25 levels above them lol

I got the a-ok to do a forced loss encounter

And I’m taking it

[somber verge]

plus you just need to worry about beasts, monsters, and plants. (assuming your chimerist doesn't have the heroic skill to expand the legal targets for spell mimic)

[feral bison]

pcs are definitely supposed to learn it

they aready get a weaker version because their spell damage doesn't auto-scale like NPCs or the Volcano heroic spell

[somber verge]

oh, right. does that mean you're supposed to periodically feed them upgraded versions of the basic spells?

[feral bison]

nope

Chimerists get the base versions of the spells, not the scaled versions NPCs use

[somber verge]

oh, wait, I'm getting mixed up with Chanter's auto scaling. Forgot that it's normal for spells in fabu to get their scaling from other skills

[forest flume]

Oh I didn’t realize that

[granite pollen]

the amano box is mine

[feral bison]

guy who makes a big speech about how "no weapon nor spell can harm me" when the Invoker shows up:

[cold snow]

ominous chanting begins

[granite pollen]

ahehe

[stuck rover]

What about an accident?
Summons 2t boulder a km above his head

[forest flume]

Chat I need a good name for a black cat person whos also an important person made of dreams

[somber verge]

Cait Sith but you actually pronounce it right

more seriously, I'd probably steal a name from a significant mythological figure. Morrigan jumps out to me, but is there any language family you're thinking of specifically?

[forest flume]

Not particularly

[somber verge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Night_goddesses

• Nyx
• Luna
• Hecate, Hecata
• Selene

Shockingly few dream goddesses on wikipedia. Or cat goddesses, for that matter. Freyja stands out to me as having a mythological assocation with cats but not being as on the nose as Bast

[forest flume]

Huh

[broken nexus]

Morpheus, Somnus, Hypnos, Oneiroi, Phobetor, Phantasos, Maya, Njörun, Pasithea

[somber verge]

Fortuna (fate/fortune), Skuld/Urdr/Verdandi (the Norns, norse Fates), Gryla (an icelandic hag), Sycorax (witch from The Tempest), Morgan (as in The Fey), Sebile/Sibyl/Sybilla (a fairy/enchantress queen from Arthurian legend)

wait, I fully invented that this cat person is a woman.

[little hull]

Salem

[little hull]

Alternatively (Yohu)Alli as Nahuatl for "Night" and part of one of Tezcatlipoca's epithets (Youhualli Ehécatl, Night Wind)

[forest flume]

Shit I’m sorry for not responding yall

I found a name from another person I asked

Morrigan

[quartz garnet]

just played press start the villain wasn't even that evil

we just went you go girl

[somber verge]

I'm still counting that as a win 😛 #1161863487509770251 message

[granite pollen]

https://itch.io/jam/fabula-ultima-jamloween

fabula jam!

[feral bison]

wooooooo

[frigid trellis]

I'll have to give it a thought

[granite pollen]

it can be a small thing like a single item, it's gonna be put together into a community zine of sorts

[merry hazel]

Fabula Jamula

[austere relic]

Slamula Jamula

[broken nexus]

Fabula Ultima, except you use Techno Fantasy to play in the universe of Shut Up and Jam Gaiden

[versed blaze]

The game may have failed to come out but finally we have the canonical version of The Magical Realms of Tír na nÓg: Escape from Necron 7 - Revenge of Cuchulainn: The Official Game of the Movie - Chapter 2 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa

In Fabula Ultima

[feral bison]

https://studio2publishing.com/products/fabula-ultima-ttjrpg-atlas-natural

NF Physical now available in the US

[granite pollen]

none money left

[feral bison]

Final stretch goal reached

[granite pollen]

🥳

[frigid trellis]

Do you know what that means?!
...Because I don't, I haven't looked at the page yet.

[feral bison]

I'm do not

[granite pollen]

we make John Fabula a real boy

[feral bison]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ndg-needgames/fabula-ultima-ttjrpg-celebration-edition-bestiary-vol-i/posts/4506142

wooooo

[granite pollen]

we are fabmaxxing

[frigid trellis]

So I'm thinking of making a Class for the Halloween Jam and was thinking of something that summons shadows of monsters to aid in combat (like actual summons, not chaneling them through the character like Arcanist does) and then my mind thought of the 7 Deadly Sins and now I'm wondering if that would be a better angle to work off of since it'd be easier to model Sins are helpers than ambiguous monster concepts (assuming I don't make the monsters different flavors of DPS)

Not sure which one is better to try and figure out

[feral bison]

Give it a shot, sounds like you'll get better inspiration that way

[frigid trellis]

Yeah, just need to figure out balancing. Probably limit the number summoned to SL and make it either so you can only order one per turn or order more than one but they can't repeat the same action (though I realize that could get out of hand quick if you have one Guard you at all times) but there is the middle ground of one per turn but you can set repeat actions so have one Guard you until ordered otherwise sow hile you can get a tad OP it's in a way that requires a couple turns of set up first (like with Rogues that debuff for extra damage or casters with buff/debuff spells to maximize impact)

Plus I'll need to make sure each Sin has a use case (or at least make less combat focused ones)

Okay yeah the Sin Tamer idea is proving easier to figure out.

At least based on the ideas I already had

[feral bison]

nice nice

[frigid trellis]

Like I can have Envy "Steal" actions taken by allies or foes for them to then use themselves (one Action stored at a time, one and done, still need to play MP or HP costs of the associated action, cannot be an action Envy nor the Player can already perform) which I know is Rogue coded but consider what else would Envy do?

[rancid river]

Envy sounds like something that would copy buffs/deal more damage to enemies that are under the effects of a buff

[frigid trellis]

Good point, though I hesitate on giving bonus damage since I was thinking of Wrath being the one that deals big damage. WIth the trade off of being a glass cannon.

[frigid trellis]

Anyone wanna see what I have so far? It's just the base skills and free benefits right now.

[frigid trellis]

Well too bad you're getting it anyway!

[frigid trellis]

Feedback would be appreciated

[spark wind]

Playing an elementalist/pilot/chimerist in a game right now and trying to decide where I go with my remaining elementalist levels:

Currently have
Ritual Elementalism 1
Magic Artillery 1
Cataclysm 1
Elemental Magic 4 (Ignis, Glacies, Fulgur, Elemental Shroud)

Not sure if I go more into accuracy, covering more elements, or just silly potential cataclysm damage

Thoughts?

[frigid trellis]

Are you engaging in weapon based combat at all or is it all magic based?

I will mention that the only elements Elementalist has access to that you don't have are Earth and Air, but that's 2 of your remaining 3 possible levels so then that last one would either need to go to Elemental Weapon for buffing allies or going after a second level in either Artillery or Cataclysm. Depends on how flexible you want to or if you can cover the elements another way with Chimerist spells or another class down the line.

Are you using the Playtest content at all?

[spark wind]

Nah not using spellblade

Just arcane bonk

We do have a dark blade elementalist with elemental weapon so the party does have some coverage

[spark wind]

With gm approval basically

[frigid trellis]

Do you have or plan to have MP generation of some kind?

[spark wind]

Pilot with Magistatic, chimerist consume

And maybe the talisman thingy later

[frigid trellis]

We're you thinking of getting the Bimagus Heroic Skill?

[spark wind]

I'd need entropist or spiritist so probably not any time soon

Idk if the campaign will run to like lvl 30-40+

Currently at like 15

[frigid trellis]

Then you'd probably be fine putting a level into each of the three skills or getting those two elements and then Cataclysm.

[spark wind]

Gotcha gotcha

Cataclysm seems good but only once you can regen a lot of mp

[frigid trellis]

Or mitigate with Bimagus

[spark wind]

Fair

[bold jay]

Next trashtalk on fabula in 24 hours!

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/PS422two5TY?si=CBHAJYYgr9xYPJnG next Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[frigid trellis]

One I'm going to using down the line for my pure caster character (just want to max out Entropist, Elementalist, and Spiritsist first. In that order. Gotta buff Drain Vitality/Spirit, then get Ultimagic, then I can use Bimagus like a complete bastard.

Then I start augmenting the set up with Necro and Loremaster

Basically I'm making a Lich

Which was not intentional

[lunar siren]

funnily enough, I think my Fabula Ultima character with the Revenant quirk would absolutely pilot a Lich

[somber verge]

necromancer is such a weird design. Rondo of Nightmares affecting not just your allies, but also the caster just feels untenable. Getting to turn any enemy into a minion is always exciting, but also a huge balance headache

[frigid trellis]

It's simple enough to consider "all creatures you can see" as "all creatures you can see who you want to target"

[somber verge]

that's one way to buff it, but from poking through the rooster games discord that doesn't seem to be the designer's intent

but awkwardly, I think without friendly fire it's just outrageously strong. It doubles your action and MP economy, and if you choose damaging spells then it's self-fueling -- hitting two people gets you two grave points back.

[frigid trellis]

Worst part about designing homebrew is trying to make it cool without it being broken as fuck

[forest flume]

Chat, can a villain be like, a group of villains?

I wanna include a bounty hunting group and make them all equals

[mighty gull]

Yeah I would say so… like 1 stat block?

[forest flume]

But idk if I should make them 3 individual villains or 1 villain with 3 stat blocks

Or just make one guy a villain

[forest flume]

I wanna make them different statblocks is the thing

I could make them like, a champion with just a shit ton of actions

But I’d really prefer 3 elites

[mighty gull]

I think it makes sense to me

Just let them share the same pool of Ultima points

[forest flume]

Ok

[mighty gull]

Would you give 1 Fabula point cause it’s 1 villain or 1 FP for each individual in the group?

[forest flume]

I think, I’ll give them the normal amount for minor villains

Just 5 from a pool they share

[mighty gull]

I mean when they show up on scene, you give players 1 Fabula point or multiple?

[forest flume]

Oh

Only 1

I don’t wanna give them 3 Fabula games lol

[mighty gull]

Then yea it’s one villain… with just multiple “forms”

It’s a cool idea actually

Might steal that

[forest flume]

Thanks

[frigid trellis]

The GM additional materials has an example gimmick where a boss can change "stances" on a trigger, you could do it so the villain changes their stats/skills on each turn or after using a certain number of skills from one section so they can share a single health pool for tagetting purposes

[feral bison]

Rules for it in Techno

[rancid river]

Many pre-made Villains in the books are groups, so yeah, 100%

[forest flume]

Oh sick hell yah

[broken nexus]

I've had several villains that were just multiple NPCs sharing one pool of Ultima Points

[forest flume]

I think my next major boss fight is gonna be a character who uses umbrellas as a weapon and is gonna swap between umbrellas open and closed on each of their turns

Becoming offensive and defensive respectfully

Forcing my players to mix up what damage types they do on each turn and whether they’re focusing on buffing/debuffing or damage

Also make them a champion so they swap every player turn

[forest flume]

hmm, I feel like hes missing something

[severe moat]

From this evening's fabula session (context, our party has stealthily infiltrated a high-security facility to find out more about and possibly sabotage a weapon the Evil Empire is building)

Floralist: "So... how do we plan on getting out of here after we're done?"

Me (sharpshooter/tinkerer): "Well, I have a gun."

Necromancer: "When all you have is a gun, everything looks like a nail"

[frigid trellis]

Anyone have tips for making a Word doc look like a FabUlt page before converting it to a PDF? I've never had to do that and just finished by submission for the Halloween Jam

[somber verge]

Are there any templates or other homebrewing supplies on their website or discord? Might be something there

[frigid trellis]

There's a third party section but I have no ideahow to use it for this

Plus I'm assuming I need to format it myself since it has to be submitted as a PDF

[feral bison]

ping the jam host and double check this

[frigid trellis]

I'll DM them, I did before when I checked if making a class is okay

Speaking of I still need to have it peer reviewed

Okay Max (person doing the Jam) says I don't have to

Anyway, y'all are peers, so please review this

[feral bison]

"Sin-ergy"

[frigid trellis]

Should I have put a warning for puns?

[feral bison]

haha
i think this is solid overall! I wonder if Sinful Powers should be split up into the combat benefit and the noncombat benefit as separate skills

[frigid trellis]

Yeah that's not a bad idea, honestly Sins of the Many is mainly a filler anyway

[somber verge]

you can command either the Sin summoned or the already summoned Sin(s) to perform an action as part of the same action.
Unless this is intended to let each Sin act when you summon a new Sin, I'd consider rewording this and Mortal Sins to something like "choose a Sin on the battlefield (including the one you just summoned) to perform an action".

Sin can benefit from effects of spells and skills that target them (such as Elemental Weapon or Accelerate), if they are dismissed these effects persist for their normal duration.
persist=if the sin is resummoned they have the buff (if it hasn't timed out yet)

A Sin must be summoned to perform their Special Action
You've done a good job of including "While X is summoned" in passive effects, and I don't think I'd worry about someone thinking an unsummoned sin can act. You could honestly drop the whole Special Action verbiage, since a lot of them are passive and there's nothing hooked into them to need a keyword

oh, whoops, I saw rulestext and went into a fugue state. Before I spam you with more of these, I should probably say I'm a big fan of summoner classes so I'm excited to see where you're going with all of this.

[frigid trellis]

Thanks, I was hoping to have something with that flavor since other than Arcanist there aren't many for it.

[somber verge]

mhm. plus Arcanist is really specifically FF summons, which kind of...aren't

[frigid trellis]

Not unless you get that one Heroic Skill, but even then it's not like it's doing much other than the standard Pulse stuff on a given turn

Assuming you use the Arcanist rework, anyway

[somber verge]

Immediate impression of sins:
These all have good flavor. Mostly you're striking a good balance between flavor and not gettting super complicated, but I'd take another pass at the wording in Envy, Gluttony, Lust, and Wrath, which are a little clunky. (overall I think the RAI is clear, there's just a couple spots I think you're missing the templating)
In general, I think the HP economy is going to be something to keep an eye on. The passive sins especially don't want to be too sturdy (otherwise they're really sticky buffs), and the more active ones don't want to be too flimsy (otherwise you might spend 20 MP on a ~weapon enchantment that you didn't get to use)...but even if they do beef it right away, they're eating a minimum of 30-50+Level HP damage (more if they get overkilled). With random targeting, they're a potent (but unpredictable) damage buffer by diluting attacks against the party.
Lastly, and clearly most important: I'm shocked Lust doesn't have a whip. 😂

[frigid trellis]

I used basic gear as a template and since I already gave Greed a Flail I figured a dagger would fit

[somber verge]

Sin-ergy + Pride seem potent, especially if you can afford to keep multiple Sins out. a flat +2, and upgrading your worst die to a d10, for "free" is a lot of dice manipulation

Sinning Feedback probably needs a clause to keep it from triggering itself. Otherwise you heal -> sins heal -> you get MP. Potential for abuse with Gluttony? (retrieve stockpile -> heal -> overheal all sins -> replace stockpile). Makes Sloth essentially free by refunding half its MP cost right away, then the other next turn.

Sins of the Many might overlap too much with Sin-ergy. Costing MP (on top of summon costs) probably makes it the weaker of the two?

[frigid trellis]

Yeah already reworking Sins of the Many to be the "can compel someone to act on a Sin" part of Sinful Powers

[somber verge]

Sinful Powers is really interesting. It's potentially grody, which IMO a demonic class probably should be but it might warrant a sidebar about checking in with the table. I worry that "tally on sin" might be a little too free (particularly when the PC can just choose to be a nasty little guy), and that spending the action in combat might need more GM direction -- can you Sloth someone into skipping their turn? Wrath them to attack an ally? It's hard to balance making it good enough to be worth an action (two, sorta, since it's got opportunity cost vs special actions) without being a superpowered multitool

[frigid trellis]

Fair

[somber verge]

yeah, that seems like a good direction. That also helps keep the complexity down rather than having one super long skill in Powers

[frigid trellis]

Changing the cost to 20 MP for it too, leave the Sin Tallies to the Sinful Powers

[feral bison]

as a formatting thing, I'd sugggest a "what counts as a sin" sidebar instead of trying to explain it all in the skill block for Sinful Powers

[frigid trellis]

Yeah good call

[somber verge]

Skilled Summoning immediately addresses one question I had ("how do these things scale?"), but seems like it might have a lot of weird interactions. one odd one is that Greed's 0 damage attacks can still trigger some effects that don't deal damage (e.g. breach)

[frigid trellis]

...Okay but that does sound kind of fun."Greed takes your potion and makes you about to get rocked by the big guy!"

[somber verge]

Bind and Sin: I'm not clear if this turns off actions for both sins or just the extra one.

[frigid trellis]

Bind and Sin is meant to be "you spend your Action to bind an Arcanum and at the same time bring out a Sin but cannot commad a Sin at the same time"

It's like getting two Actions, so figured having the Sins sit tight for a turn would keep it from getting too out of hand

[frigid trellis]

Did a bit of tinkering, how does this look?

[frigid trellis]

Might wanna bump all the HP values by 20 while I'm at it, just to shore that up a bit

Or maybe just 10

15

[frigid trellis]

Did it by 20, gives them health range closer to somewhat more martial builds, good for keeping them up long enough to be dismissed instead of dying

Speaking of I need to add how dismissing them works

[forest flume]

During conflicts, can villains only use their ultima point abilities on their own turn?

[feral bison]

Retreat is an automatic thing

Reroll is attached to a roll, not a turn

Recover is an action on their turn

Additional UP abilities are specific to the statblock, so it depends

[forest flume]

Thanks

[frigid trellis]

About to finally submit this to the Halloween Jam, anyone have notes before I send it in?

[feral bison]

looking good

[frigid trellis]

Submitted it, hopefully others like it too

[feral bison]

Lantern Gourd

1: All damage you deal becomes fire and cannot be changed. When you deal fire damage to an enemy, they become enchanted until the **Growth Clock ** reaches 4.
2: When an enchanted enemy makes an attack or casts an offensive spell (⚡), they must include you among the targets of that attack or spell if possible. Any enemies that deal damage to you become cursed until the Growth Clock ** reaches 4.
3: At the end of your turn, you deal an amount of fire damage equal to【15 + your Skill Level in Chloromancy】**to each cursed enemy you can see.

feedback needed plz

[frigid trellis]

What if the enemy is resistant, immune, or absorbant to fire?

Also 15+Choro can be pretty high when you don't spend a resource (equal to most damaging spells)

[feral bison]

The number taken from the status-dealing flowers that deal damage to all enemies with their signature status at 3

This feels roughly comparable

[frigid trellis]

Fair, I'd only point out that those deal that damage once every 3 or so turns, not every turn (unless I forget how Chloromancy works)

[feral bison]

It ticks away from 3 after a single round, so this only detonates once

[frigid trellis]

Does it? The wording is "at the end of your turn you deal fire damage to cursed enemies" and doesn't mention any other limiting factor

OH

I just realized this is a plant

For some reason I thought this was a weapon

NVM, you're good

[feral bison]

yep lol

I think I'll keep it inflicting Enchanted, it's supposed to be a will o' wisp thing and they don't have to burn you to draw you away, right. arguably works better

[frigid trellis]

I do like that part, makes a fun aggro management style

One issue I just realized, what if you tag a high damage boss who goes like 4 or 5 times a round and they hit you every time? They can only be cursed once. Might be better to have Enchanted end after they damage you and that's when they get cursed.

[feral bison]

That's worth considering

I'm not totally opposed to "just don't use it against high turn count enemies" but i think i can tweak it yeah

[frigid trellis]

I did look over the plant list again and did see a plant for making enemies target you, but that's also the only thing it does, so worth considering making this slightly less good at making yourself the defacto target so the og still has its place

Wrathful Carnation

[feral bison]

Wrathful Carnation is total lockdown for a single character and has more flexibility because you can activate it at any growth clock count. Lantern Gourd requires you to keep it up for a couple rounds to get the aggro manipulation benefit and spend actions to actually deal damage and get the taunt off
but yeah making it single hit into of several can distinguish it further, I think I'm convinced

[frigid trellis]

Yeah I'm not saying it was total overlap, just good to keep in mind

[forest flume]

Hmm, while this session was great it kinda did make me realize an issue with Fabula

There’s very little reason to ever make bonds outside of your party members

Due to how they work, it is safest and most consistent to do them with the people you’ll always have access so

And because they’re limited you’re kinda punished for making them with NPCs or areas

[feral bison]

you have pretty high player count right?

[forest flume]

Yah

6

[feral bison]

oh yeah that's already houserule territory

you could probably add some extra bond slots without many side effects

just maybe cap Healing Power at the normal limit or something

[forest flume]

I might give them more bond slots yah

[bold jay]

https://youtu.be/p8rvDv6TP_Y?si=97UU4w4iH1l-j_5T new Trashtalk on Fabula Ultima is out now!

[forest flume]

Can character who have flying still fly in like, really tight situations?

[feral bison]

gonna depend on the specific source i think

[forest flume]

Pilot’s flight module

[rancid river]

Mechanically, yes.
Narratively, the table should decide

[feral bison]

These benefits do not apply while the vehicle is inactive or grounded

"really tight situations" is plausibly "grounded"

[frigid trellis]

Depends on if it's a vertical shaft I guess

[forest flume]

Ok

Also, how do I give rare gear to pilots btw?

That they’ll actually use anyway

[feral bison]

You can make rare pilot modules

[forest flume]

Ah ok

[frigid trellis]

If one of the party is a Tinkerer they can also make them

[forest flume]

I actually do have a tinkerer in this party!