Jenna Moran Games (Nobilis, Chuubo's, Glitch, WTF)

[vivid wraith]

ideal

[narrow tartan]

I might get a hat made.

[narrow tartan]

I keep thinking. Strategist who somehow finds a mortal roomate who somehow has worse life skills

[obsidian dagger]

Trying to figure out what arc it would be if you're in a world where people genuinely have special psychic (or ki, or magic, or whatever) powers, and every major character in the setting uses those powers, but you are firmly convinced those powers are completely fake and not real and don't exist and whenever someone else uses them they're just faking it. And because you think they're fake, you're totally unafraid and actually sometimes beat them in ways.

Creature of Fable, probably. You get to Cut the Soul to do away with troublesome evidence of those powers being real.

[narrow tartan]

I once. Spent a bunch of time brainstorming an overcomplicated way for a strategist to just. Like. Bring a city into tje world.

Or add a bridge

Basically.

A gift based on Greater Casting to make dimensions inside of a notebook

Something that let ypu draw in the notebook and have that drawing fill a dimension in the notebook

And a gift based on Greater Trust to pull stuff out of the notebook

11-5-1-1+1=5
11-3-1-1+1=7
11-5-1-3+1=3

So fifteen points.

Or seventeen if you want pulling stuff in and out of the notebook to be free.

Or nineteen if you want it to be free and consider "in and out" to be too flexible for "a single trick"

I imagined this would be a Strategist who was mostly a REMF in the war

[vivid wraith]

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[patent tiger]

Me tbh

[vivid wraith]

Thanks lord entropy

[obsidian dagger]

Thinking about how often "conspicuously keeping a secret For Their Own Good" is a Wicked Action.

[narrow tartan]

'turn back turn back'

[frank light]

yeah

[magic mason]

Assigning Every Deadlock Charecter A Chuubo's Marvelous Wish Granting Engine Arc

Abrahams: Wounded Angel
Apollo: Ace
Bebop: Either Gatecrasher or Become Somebody, something Actual Coded like that
Billy: I Have No Idea Please Help
Calico: Troubled
Celeste: also Troubled I think
Doorman: either Creature Of The Light or Awakening, not sure which
Dynamo: Child Of The Ash
Drifter: Indomitable
Graves: Either Wounded or Gatekeeper depending on how you see the Lich
Grey Talon: Allegory I think
Haze: Creature Of Fable
Infernus: Troubled
Holliday: I also wanna say troubled
Ivy: Weirdly difficult, I almost wanna say Reality Syndrome?
Kelvin: Spiritual
Lady Geist: Gonna say Star Quality actually
Lash: Allegory
Mcginnis: Fulcrum Tech flavored Flore?
Mina: Gatecrasher
Mirage: Chained Prophet
Mo and Krill: No Idea
Paige: Adept, she even has a weird extant enemy
Paradox: Awakening(playing as all of Paradox)
Pocket: Unironically might be accursed, other stuff is a magical skill but pocket is a strategist
Rem: Something green, probably World Walker? Vastness rem would work but has nothing in the source material
Seven: Spiritual or Child Of The Ash but like... the green fortitude pc flavor?
Shiv: Troubled again I think
Silver: I think she is more of an indomitable werewolf than a Child Of The Ash werewolf
Sinclair: Reality Syndrome
Venator: Prophet, not sure what of, but I think it fits him better than a yellow
Victor: Become Somebody
Vindicta: Allegory
Viscous: Primordial, and I will stick with this one
Vyper: Troubled, lots of troubled in this roster
Warden: Flore, in a botanist way
Wraith: Architect I think
Yamato: Adept

Update: Billy Is Accursed, but like low level accursed

[candid compass]

Bebop is Gatecrasher I think
Into the secret world of pit fighters

[magic mason]

Yeah tht tracks

[restive ridge]

Thank you Fluffy

[magic mason]

ur welcome

Anyone got contests here?

or ideas for what Mo and Krill

[narrow tartan]

Thas a lot of characters

[magic mason]

I went though a whole moba cast, so its aa lot of guys

[frank light]

Honestly I think silver is also troubled

[magic mason]

Interesting
also I already had so many I didn’t wanna do more troubled

[frank light]

I wanna argue that Ivy has spiritual

She has plant powers

[candid compass]

I also argued for Vastness Ivy to fluffy

[frank light]

Also no haze has ace

That’s my argument

Her invisibility? Technique.
Gun skills? Technique
Knife? Technique

Girl is competent in everything

Not only that, her best stories would be gold arcs

[magic mason]

I feel like she’s more yellow than green, is my sticking point

[frank light]

Her getting forced to get into social situations is perfect for her

[magic mason]

That’s fair

I think I was in the red dimension because I was focused on the whole Dream thing

I suppose she could have a magical/superior skill about it

[candid compass]

It could also be a stored Technique or something

That one Aspect miracle that lets you learn a specific trick

[frank light]

Or a superior skill yeah

Cus she could just have superior dreamer or superior sandman

[narrow tartan]

I should have ideas

Glitch. Is interesting, just. Strategists are apocalyptic threats. But they do see something worth valuing even if the world stands in the way

[narrow tartan]

My enemy list includes.
-time
-the sun

[fleet harbor]

-wasps

[vestal mist]

-capsaicin

[narrow tartan]

The Game loves Gender reveals

Or does the rule? Or do they both

No definitely the game

But. Maybe it was the Rules idea that the game ruined?

I dont know. I am really bad about conceptualizing the rule

[obsidian dagger]

The Rule wants stability. Progress should be measured and incremental, always one step in front of another on a well-paved path. Everything is orchestrated. Everything is perfectly planned.

The only reason it does not want to perfectly preserve all of humanity exactly as it is right now is because if that happened, it would intrinsically change humanity, because the nature of humanity is to grow and change and one day die.

[vivid wraith]

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Bluesky · Feb 22, 2026, 11:30 PM

[narrow tartan]

Dying of a speck in your eye

[magic mason]

Fallen type song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kKR0swpEhg

[restive ridge]

NOBLE THAT FOUGHT A STRATEGIST: God it's so good to see you again. It's been so long

FUJOSHI IMPERATOR: How was it...

[narrow tartan]

Hmm. It is interesting. Strategists are valid. Like. They experience. Hostility from the world. And it is real to them.

Just. I havent seen the minecraft movie. But. I think there is a theme of running from the world/escapism.

[patent tiger]

From the Strategist perspective, their actions are ontologically justified. From an external perspective, their situation is pitiable and they use that as a rhetorical cudgel to justify doing terrible things

It’s an interesting little conceptual tangle

[narrow tartan]

Physical essence of divinity

[gloomy oasis]

It's called "chocolate".

[narrow tartan]

I am wrong. But.

I think. Thing I thought up

I al proud of

"The Dark is humanities shadow but the Light in turn is our reflection."

[grand knot]

I wonder what arcs the characters from project moon would have
Each sephirah had an arc about resolving a problem related to a lesson/virtue, then in the sequel help Roland and Angela with these lessons

[obsidian dagger]

I have not finished Lobotomy Corporation but I could definitely see... most of the Sephirot, if maybe not all of them... getting True God arcs?

They definitely like Creature of the Ash, and not just for kaiju mode. They also appreciate the ability to go Wicked Mode. And a lot of them engage in Wicked Actions reasonably frequently (I'm thinking of Netzach and Chesed primarily, I think?) There's an argument they wouldn't mind something Blue (especially looking at Yesod) but I think that could be a Wicked Action too. They also Suffer Transformation and Suffer Sickness reasonably frequently.

And ||their meltodown forms frequently have many limbs in a way which tonally fits being Primordial||.

They could also definitely be Called Away. And Awakening would not be wrong, especially when you look at Tiphereth.

The alternative would be something Blue. There is certainly an argument for Wounded Angel. And I don't remember all the details, but some of the later ones would not dislike being mimics (||Geburah|| and ||Binah|| in particular, who are also very mechanically different).

[vivid wraith]

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Bluesky · Jun 22, 2025, 7:22 AM

[grand knot]

AUgh, need to recheck the arcs again
Then there's angela and roland in ruina. Whose arcs are basically about sins of the past, learning teh lessons of the sephirah, and then each making a choice at the end of the story

[obsidian dagger]

Random thought bouncing around in my head about how nothing is like anything else and metaphor is violence

[obsidian dagger]

This is Principal Entropy II I think.

oh I was too slow on it and didn't see it was already posted here. My bad.

[frank light]

Oooo

[narrow tartan]

What if... You gave a strategist a powerful gift. Then intentionally never used it because you were laying low?

Like. "Yeah I have this immortal flame stolen from heaven. I could twist it into an abhorrent weapon... But that goes against the not ending the world thing"

"And if I kept using it to twist mortals into undying abominations capable of fighting Nobles people might complain"

[narrow tartan]

Strategist using a Purify gift to skip showering. And laundry day

*discovers Glitch doesnt include purify"

[vivid wraith]

uhhhh limited Unfettering gift or something

[narrow tartan]

That. Doesnt srrm right

[candid compass]

Just use Destruction

There are no downsides to this clearly

[restive ridge]

Truth Breaker's Hand

[fleet harbor]

lol

[narrow tartan]

Magic pixie Game-er girl

[obsidian dagger]

...what's that one book I heard of once where the protagonist can only see the magic girl because he is actively dying of mad cow disease? Because I think that's what you're describing.

Manic Pixie Dream Girls might sometimes be Game and might sometimes be Angels honestly.

Going Bovine. I haven't read it but I've heard of it.

[magic mason]

https://youtu.be/zyUMk-XiVsA

I really like this as a games magister song

[vivid wraith]

https://goomba-stomper.tumblr.com/post/810432495466233856

GoombaStomper

I went to every afterlife and there wasn't a single goomba in any of them. Where the fuck are these things going

-# #goomba #stomp

Tumblr · Mar 7, 2026, 1:04 PM

[magic mason]

all goombas go to super heaven

(you aren't allowed in)

[vivid wraith]

heaven is full, and all the goombas are here

[obsidian dagger]

Interesting. I could see it as Rules-style Creature of the Light in places.

[magic mason]

Fallen type song song https://youtu.be/g6wTMFC4pO0

[narrow tartan]

Hmm. Would
Adept have destroy enemy before or after protect from enemy

Shield and Blast.
Shield comes first in the Arc. So probably shield?

Different than Wyrd

[candid compass]

Shield would still be first probably

[narrow tartan]

Angel with Enemy: Humanity and Adept 7

[still blaze]

This is off topic, but is anyone here a fan of Weather Factory's games like Cultist Simulator and Book of Hours?
I feel like they have a kinda Nobilis vibe somehow

[magic mason]

Little bit yeah!

[restive ridge]

Im a big fan

I think Nobilis is way more contemporary and sillier than it

[still blaze]

Definitely true about being more contemporary yeah
Playing BoH now and it's great

[restive ridge]

The Chandler is however 100% from Nobilis tho

[still blaze]

What's that?

[restive ridge]

Certaintly She Who carries fire in darkness; Who leaves a place without entering it; Whose endeavours are profitable.
Definitely romanian.
Most likely trying to write itself into the History retrocausally from the future.
Likely whatever is posessing the current king of Britain.
Probably the God of nuclear bombs.
Possibly a metaphor for capitalism
Mayhaps a remnant of the Egg.

[narrow tartan]

I think they are interesting but wasnt very good with them

[still blaze]

BoH is more chill than CS and more easily approached

[narrow tartan]

I once had a thought related to. Cultists Simulator being contemporary to Chuubos

Alternatively.

The Lionsmith and the Colonel are a pair of Warmains in a relationship

[narrow tartan]

Would. Angels have any straightforward miracles that serve to make one of them not stick out? I dont think so.

[obsidian dagger]

Angels struggle with that, I think. Rulers are good at it as part of Awakening, though.

[vivid wraith]

I think Aspect is supposed to get a "fit in" miracle in nob4?

[vivid wraith]

https://jennamoran.tumblr.com/post/611980417338425344/punching-out-the-moon-or-the-glitch-trait

hey that first bullet-

no wait angels have Adept but not Aspect

[narrow tartan]

nodnod

[vivid wraith]

maybe a weird Fade variant gift? less "you're inconspicuous" and more "you're gone as soon as they notice you"

[narrow tartan]

nodnod

[frank light]

I think because of holy angels generally stick out even when they’re hiding

But in the way that like

A really cool person might stick out

They’ve got odd lightning and cinematography but I think people won’t tend to question it

[candid compass]

they do this with Holy, but in a weird way

since Holy can also let you exit scenes and make it be as if you hadn't been there

[narrow tartan]

Mhmm. Fair.

[narrow tartan]

Honestly. Was. Thinking about the, "Young angel who is maybe supposed to end humanity and ends up going to college"

[obsidian dagger]

Makes me think of a very specific kind of Good Omens fanfiction.

[narrow tartan]

There is also one of the fallen involved...

[obsidian dagger]

Adam Young (from Good Omens, I mean) has some striking similarities to Chuubo in some ways.

[narrow tartan]

Huh. Yeah that is a good comparison

[narrow tartan]

Just remembered. World where time flows backwards. So if you live long enough you become a world war 2 vetran

Or maybe bi directionally.

[narrow tartan]

Strategist coding

[narrow tartan]

Sid from Toy Story develops Dementia Anima

[narrow tartan]

Angel attending university gets locked out of the dorm when her roomate closed the window to their room and what is she going to do. Walk in the front door of the dorm like a plebian?? Its not like she has pockets. Where is she gonna keep her keys

So. Holy would have Stunt as a Miracle probably related somehow to their Divine Warrant. And their Miraculous Will from Chuubos

[vivid wraith]

pretending Leonardo posted this

[magic mason]

TRUE

[obsidian dagger]

...it suddenly occurs to me that it would probably not be incorrect to write Leonardo as having Actual Realistic Bipolar Syndrome.

[narrow tartan]

I still like my idea that warmains temper people who have a unique relationship with their test

[magic mason]

Far roofs theory: The Real Goblin is that shadow in the goblin roofs and the rotating cast of volcels that compose our impression of the goblin is just how that entity easily affects our reality

[obsidian dagger]

That is very nice but there is also something very funny about Goblin not casting a long metaphysical shadow and just being a horrible little guy who sneaks into your house to use powers

[obsidian dagger]

Hm. I was kicking around ideas for representing a cultivator's Dao in a hypothetical cultivation story as a pState in terms of what could be done with it, and then wrote up hypothetical rules and by the time I realized my mistake I had an entire ruleset which basically treated it as a pSelf and I'm not sure if that ought to be fixed or is fine.

[magic mason]

The writeup for Zu also had persona funnily enough

Persona
Adept
Aspect
Holy

[narrow tartan]

Gamer who is a skinny science guy. Likes to see his creations put to use.

Gamer. Who is a friendly old witch lady associated with diabetes.

Gamer. Who is Dionysus and wants to get back to his youth when he was trim and fit and maddening to behold

Gamer. Who is kind of a Prometheus figura nd annoyingly keeps winning arguments.

[obsidian dagger]

I still wonder if rather than having a pSelf, the Zu just cultivate a Self.

...also, I should know this, but: can Deceivers apply their pState properties to themself, or is that a blind spot in their powers?

[vivid wraith]

They can!

[frank light]

yeah easily

their miracles for persona work entirely the same

you can use miracles on a deceiver after all

[vivid wraith]

their auctoritas can be a nightmare but they're not affected by their own

[frank light]

ye

[magic mason]

my deciever has (Reduces things to it touches to ash) as a pretty iconic Apply Pstate Property to himself

also (Is A Metaphor for his ruthless ambition) is great because most things can't hurt a metaphor

[narrow tartan]

Blehp. Strategist who can Wonderful Life people with their Destruction

[vivid wraith]

I'm enjoying LiEat and its Creature of Delirium protagonist

(a lie-eating dragon)

[narrow tartan]

Oh I think ive heard of that

[vivid wraith]

it's cute! sat down expecting a six hour game and it was like a one hour game lol

[narrow tartan]

There are werewolves right?

[vivid wraith]

First part had a "wolf" ||that was a cover story for vampire attacks||

[fleet harbor]

“Sponsored” wat

[patent tiger]

The demiurge would advertise on tumblr I think

[fleet harbor]

That's true

[magic mason]

@frank light

Also, not Jennagames but this is The Seers Of The Throne

[restive ridge]

This IS the Seers yes, shit

Thank you for the enlightenment

[fleet harbor]

That's true

Well, actually. Isn't part of the Seers' whole deal that they have no pretensions whatsoever about being the good guys?

[magic mason]

Some Prelates post like this, but they have exarchitis

(Instead of brain there is exarch)

[fleet harbor]

"We are here to cause oppression and misery, and we're all out of nah just kidding we have so much more oppression and misery we can cause."

[magic mason]

(Seriously it’s actually kinda terrifying if you go inside of their dream world they have a exarch ochema instead of a Goetia defending it)

[candid compass]

It varies

Some do pretend, some are open about it, to various levels of enthusiasm about that

[frank light]

🫵 Neoplatonist

[narrow tartan]

Seer of the Throne who embraces Divine Command Theory.

Gamer who is an evil moon rabbit and is associated with light pollution

Actually no. She would be associated with power outages

[obsidian dagger]

Peculiar request but does anyone know of any songs/music videos which do a good job of depicting Actual infection? I'd call that an overly specific niche but I can already name two of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-M1AtrxztU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F90Cw4l-8NY are both Actual infection but especially the first one.

[magic mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr7df9eRoQk
This is one of my favriotes

(the video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R3BBj06JAfc
in terms of songs, I always felt like this one was very Actual Coded

hmmm its less of an actual-infection song and more of an actual-personality song

the latter I mean

like I can imagine this bit plying

When hygienists leave 
on
long vacations
That's when dentists 
scream and lose 
their patience

As an actual like, kinda brutally kills someone and someone else reacts in despair, but the actual doesn't really process things like that

[obsidian dagger]

oh this is uncanny in a way I can't quite describe. Definitely fits Actual Infection, with the whole... like, it's a process continuing for no reason.

[magic mason]

Yea
Originally I latched donto it as a triangle agency anomaly but it works so well for Actuals

[obsidian dagger]

I'm thinking about the MESS from Gatchaman CROWDS and their habits of imitating moving objects or people, sometimes without understanding why. Like, one imitates a person who goes up an escalator, then down the adjacent one, then up the first one again, in a loop.

[obsidian dagger]

This somehow has Fountains of Wayne vibes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73JO_qNfCUc I can't tell if this is an Actual or what but it's something. (I should probably also consider some of these for my arcs as songs project but Become Somebody is a slot with a lot of competition so I want to be really picky.)

[vivid wraith]

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ergh

Bluesky · Mar 22, 2026, 12:45 AM

[fleet harbor]

Lake Superior as a chancel

and/or Lake Superior as a True God

Estates, hm ...

Storms is almost too obvious

Might be a plotline there tho

The Angel of Storms is dying for some reason and various powers throughout the Ash are chomping at the bit to get the estate either overall or locally

[narrow tartan]

Straregist Elsa. Hurting Anna was the Glitch.

[obsidian dagger]

Siames probably has an actual infection song. They have all kinds of weird stuff.

[obsidian dagger]

...I think that when Black arcs reference bearing witness to a miracle, if you define a miracle as a moment where everything is indelibly changed in ways beyond the physical, that absolutely includes a death.

[obsidian dagger]

Is the Joker a Warmain?

[obsidian dagger]

I think he is. His "one bad day" is a Test he inflicts on people, he has powers to corrupt and control and improve people (most pointedly Harleen Quinzel), and he's definitely Immortal in the narrative sense.

[narrow tartan]

He is trying to find rhe perfect backstory

[fleet harbor]

snrrrk

[narrow tartan]

i mean it seems to make perfect sense

[obsidian dagger]

Warmains frequently make sense as existing because they exist. Their backstory is partial or apocryphal or uncertain. They hail from a distant unreachable place or time, given Impresario.

...by that metric, the way you pass the Joker's test is by killing him, probably.

[narrow tartan]

oh okay

[obsidian dagger]

I mean, a lot of his interactions definitely feel like he's testing Batman, and trying to make him break his no-kill rule.

Or occasionally other people.

[narrow tartan]

With batman definitely. But part of it was me thinking about the "one bad day" test and the whole "do you know how i got these scars" thing from the nolan films

[obsidian dagger]

I haven't seen those but... okay I recently read the weird semi-canonical official webtoon, which made me discover the existence of Signal, who I think Joker also tested?

[narrow tartan]

Dunno. Just musing.

[narrow tartan]

what if like. darklords were really hot

[patent tiger]

I suspect for a certain set of the population that would not make much difference

[frank light]

I think that is just dark lords

[restive ridge]

Yeah I think Dark Lords being hot is the default setting

[magic mason]

Game lords are hot in a bad boy way and Rules Lords are hot in a Milf way send tweet before my internal mechanisms stop me

[patent tiger]

Yeah

That's true

[restive ridge]

The Estate of "And Such"

[frank light]

is that freud

[restive ridge]

By @/FlexuallyT

[fleet harbor]

I'm afraid I'm banishing you to the Outside for this

[vivid wraith]

Gatecrasher

[patent tiger]

Real

[vivid wraith]

deep cut Serpent names for ye: Rahab and Ophion

[fleet harbor]

Yes this is good

[gloomy oasis]

I need to read the Glitch book today. :V

[obsidian dagger]

Randomly encountered this Creature of the Light quote for a character description:

Has mastered the art of sitting menacingly so the light always hits him in just the right way.

[narrow tartan]

Glassy medium

[pure cape]

Omg wait

Spiderman pointing meme

[narrow tartan]

Glitch is good. I should reread it

[gloomy oasis]

So my Glitch character is dying of automobiles. Back in the 70s gas crisis, they were a normal mechanic, who installed one of those scam devices which were supposed to improve gas mileage on a friend's car at his behest, knowing it would never work. But it did.

They spent years trying to destroy the world in general and cars specifically, culminating in a Flower Rite which was supposed to destroy or at least severely damage the concept. It failed; the two laws they tried to set at odds flexed and scraped across each other instead of breaking. The only side effect is that now electric cars are becoming more popular.

And they were like, "Y'know what? Fuck it. I'm done."

[narrow tartan]

My PFP is a Strategist.

[narrow tartan]

I should come up with new idea for strategist... Maybe.

[narrow tartan]

My brain is going, "man is very annoyed to find out his liver is going to heaven without him"

[gloomy oasis]

That's what happens when you drink the wrong spirits. Or the right ones.

[narrow tartan]

Hmm. Characters. Who represent ideological struggles. And. Due to the nature of the media cannot ever find resolution

Magneto and Professor X

[narrow tartan]

I have requested someone make a miramie mesmer hat. Maybe with a feather

[narrow tartan]

Somefay i might do miramie mesmer cosplah

[obsidian dagger]

I too enjoyed Skin Horse.

[narrow tartan]

And as a first step. I shall aquire tiny top hat

[narrow tartan]

thinks
Blech. I wish to consume all media and ascend.

[narrow tartan]

Also. I think Miramie Mesmer's hat should have a feather

[fleet harbor]

I agree

This is a good take

Tiny top hat with feather > tiny top hat without feather

[patent tiger]

A consistent trend in my collection of tiny hats is that they come with feathers

So I agree

[fleet harbor]

Ru seal of approval!

[narrow tartan]

nodnod basically at local market there is woman selling tiny hats. And I requested she make one in the style, showed her a miramie mesmer picture

[fleet harbor]

That's awesome

[patent tiger]

Lovely

[narrow tartan]

watches video about cosmic voids
is scared
reframes things
A far and sunless land... It is beautiful

[restive ridge]

Game Lord wearing this

[vivid wraith]

yeah

[fleet harbor]

Yeah

[vivid wraith]

uwu

[obsidian dagger]

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-4 I don't know why this goes here but I think it does

[restive ridge]

If you cut a worm in two, those two pieces regrow into two worms, how many souls will eventually enter the cycle of reincarnation:
A)1
B)2
C)3
D)3!/1!
E)None of the Above

[vestal mist]

E)

Worms are not possessed of souls

[gloomy oasis]

That's why they can be divided like that.

[frank light]

I one time wrote soul worldbuilding that they could be divided infinitely

And this new souls are born from other souls by dividing infinitely small pieces of themselves and adding them up into another soul

[fleet harbor]

Like quarks

[gloomy oasis]

incidentally, I don't believe ants have souls, but an anthill has one.

[frank light]

no no quarks are quanta/have quanta

they just make more by putting energy into them

its more like the uh
the weird sphere paradox

[fleet harbor]

I'm sorry Karen, it's too late

Quarks are souls now

That's how panpsychism works, it's canon

[vivid wraith]

xenocide by orson scott card

[frank light]

sdfha

[magic mason]

Had an idea a while back inspired by a thing mentioned about True Gods In Glitch

A mortal(maybe with the assistance of something miraculous, but it gives them more of an iconic status if they figure it out on their own)
who breaks into a true god(preferably the players patron true god, but just one they know is good too) and STEALS/fuses with one of the primordial violence only True Gods that the newer true gods Ate
so you have this human/humanoid with True God Stats, but probably not any estates
kinda Idigam esque ig

[vestal mist]

Axiom of Choice, i see

[gloomy oasis]

It involves rotation.

Speaking of rotation, I just realized that the Imperator whose estate includes USB has to be a Mimic. That's why you can't insert the plug until you've rotated it 180 degrees twice.

[narrow tartan]

Guy whoae face is not visible. Because there is always something in the way

[narrow tartan]

I desire world breakrrs hand to get rid of things that annoy me

[obsidian dagger]

understandable

[gloomy oasis]

https://www.tpmblr.com/retroactivebakeries/747507753001664512

[fleet harbor]

Something something I told him it sounds like he's just feeding John F. Kennedys to death and then his daughter started crying

[narrow tartan]

They actually remove your wisdom teeth in order to prevent you from getting into heaven.

[fleet harbor]

What about people who don't need them removed? Are they just ontologically bound for hell?

Can we identify The Elect by wisdom tooth surgeries

[narrow tartan]

No no. People with wisdom teeth can get into heavan. Thats why they get removed. See. Its like a key

[fleet harbor]

Right but some people just get their wisdom teeth in and keep them

Like me

Which leads me to believe that having a jaw that large is a sin???!

[narrow tartan]

nodnod

thinks about how humanity destroying angel would help someone transition
Gets jealous of angel using fire magic to remove body and facial hair

[vivid wraith]

quick search of the tumblr didn't reveal anything but: do we have any hints or reasonable extrapolation for what the notional genre of nob4 is for spotlight actions etc?

[magic mason]

I could see a world where creation is the thing that had a genre and it has the same group

/earth

Maybe the mythic has its own genre

[frank light]

I could imagine the mythic having a new genre but I’m betting earth is still immersive fantasy

Betting at least

[magic mason]

What if the first ruler and the first gamer were in love send tweet

[patent tiger]

They should kill each other

[vivid wraith]

(quotes from the first ruler and first gamer)

[magic mason]

They were probably like

Still figuring things out, at the first of their respective kinds

They were at that point in history closer to each other than anything else

[narrow tartan]

Strategist who keeps their day job from before they glitched.

[narrow tartan]

Is there a good elevator pitch for Glitch

[patent tiger]

Usually by selling people on Nobilis first, getting them to do a bit of that, and then pitching a game about playing the burnouts of the villain squad

[vivid wraith]

i like "retired supervillain void gods"

[narrow tartan]

nodnod

[restive ridge]

Tenderqueer fascist gods forced to touch grass

[obsidian dagger]

Randomly encountered this https://st-just.tumblr.com/post/813726095140651008

Forgotten days encased in bone and meat

🔁 toasthaste

When people say things like "Behold the Accursed One!" that doesn't imply any ill intent on their part -- quite often it's meant as a neutral or even helpful statement. But the problem with this sort of language is that, however well-intentioned it may be, it foregrounds the curse at the expense of the person behind it; auguries have shown that this can have a priming effect that subtly reduces empathy. For that reason, experts today encourage people to use one-first language, such as "Behold the One who Bears the Curse," to better emphasize the dignity of the individual.

Tumblr · Apr 12, 2026, 9:34 PM

[vivid wraith]

Child of the Ash

[magic mason]

True!

[frank light]

yeah

[vivid wraith]

i think i will continue to sketch out the Power of Past Lives

That feels productive

[gloomy oasis]

I unfortunately can't make future games of this Glitch campaign, but I did make my character in Heroforge.

[candid compass]

Nice

[narrow tartan]

Hmm arcana that are people

[candid compass]

A lot of them are

Well, they're -people

[patent tiger]

Everything is people, the question is how much you focus on it

[candid compass]

also that, yes

everything is sentient mythically

[narrow tartan]

True.

Was basically thinking about an angel idea. The angel of sex, drugs, and rock-'n'-roll. And. They have these.

But gonna start rereading glotch

[patent tiger]

Sex drugs and rock 'n' roll don't feel super angelic to me

Are those beautiful things?

[restive ridge]

When you lowkey get bored midway through your Green Arc so you stab your crush and their gf

[narrow tartan]

thinks about it more
There was a specific reason for it being an angel. Which is a decent reason. But need to think about it. Because I do agree that they dont fully fit Heavans aesthetic (though I can imagine them as heavenly Estates)

Every ten years the angel of (x, y, and z) sends their servants to find the good and (something) and take them off to heaven.

[vivid wraith]

Oh this rules

[narrow tartan]

...Rinley has Creature of Fable? If I ever play Rinley I might do something like this

(also i have a joke thought that Rinley has met Chuubo's parents offscreen)

[narrow tartan]

My girlfriend is telling her girlfriend about Glitch.

[vivid wraith]

it spreads

[magic mason]

I made aa Rulees Magister Playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsEc41oypXvAJ2Paj0fiLe1RGB0tImYUQ

@narrow tartan

[narrow tartan]

Neat

[narrow tartan]

Even if Serpents had called an invading army the Excrucians they summoned would be snakes and prone to falling from their horses

Hmm. Lesser excrucians.

[magic mason]

Arcana, Warmain Minions, Abhorrent Weapons

(Creature From Outside Creation Dedicated To Destroying Creation that Isn't A God)

[narrow tartan]

nodnod

[vivid wraith]

I would absolutely use "hey there's an Excrucian with an unknown MO, that's weird and scary" and then it turns out to be an Abhorrent Weapon

[vivid wraith]

also shards

[candid compass]

this kind of happened in our Glitch game

[vivid wraith]

excellent

[obsidian dagger]

Thinking about how... like, Strategists can hurt the people around them. Their Banes frequently risk collateral damage and/or involve them turning evil. But if they try hard enough, they can manage their actions and manage their bane and avoid hurting the people they care about.

And Mimics just kind of... can't. Just by existing they cause harm to reality and make it a worse place. There is no action they can take that will totally prevent this. Strategists have to struggle to not harm the things they love, but Mimics will harm the things they love.

How can you be a good person if by existing you cause harm to others? How do you negotiate with that horrible knowledge that your hands can never be fully clean, not even because of what you once did, but because of your continued existence?

I have Thoughts about a mimic game.

[frank light]

mimics ❤️

[vivid wraith]

I think Mimics have about the same chance of Not Causing Problems as Strategists tbh

Strategists need to stay in control constantly, Mimics need to Not Die Ever

for both it's never something that ever truly goes away

but at least Mimics won't have to be around to see it fall apart, I suppose

[obsidian dagger]

Aren't they also causing problems just by existing? Like, even if they don't die, they are still one of the pillars holding up reality, and also fake.

That's the whole reason Mimics are created. Their existance erodes reality. Or am I wrong?

[vivid wraith]

"words in the same language, used to different intention" in Nob3 suggests they're not fundamentally erosive, imo, but i'll check glitch

[patent tiger]

This is the closest Glitch gets to that

[vivid wraith]

hmmmm okay

[patent tiger]

Which is a bit distant, and mostly about the blasphemy at their heart

[vivid wraith]

(grabbing the earlier description on p54)

[patent tiger]

Ah, and that bit at the end

[ruby ivy]

Chatgpt is a mimic estate

[vivid wraith]

It's still describing "the horror inside" there

And at the start it talks about successfully holding the world together for a time

[obsidian dagger]

...so, uh, side note: should be worried about the implications of "Flowers" being potentially a Mimic estate?

[vivid wraith]

don't worry about it ;)

[patent tiger]

Well, the world is wrong, so it makes sense that something that underpins it would be-

[candid compass]

anything could be a Mimic estate, and we would never know

[obsidian dagger]

I am half-convinced that Pain is a mimic estate, because if Pain worked properly it would always indicate an injury of some kind (physical or mental) but it's broken and that's why chronic pain conditions exist.

[narrow tartan]

I refuse to be judged by Creation

[obsidian dagger]

That is a good answer.

[narrow tartan]

I dont trust Ananda.

[obsidian dagger]

I have it on good authority that he is not a horse, at least.

[vivid wraith]

Which splat has the funniest mix of "mythic archetype" vs "one specific anime" in their stats

[obsidian dagger]

Hm. Probably Creature of Delirium? I'm not sure, though.

[magic mason]

oh this is a splat question, so its about combos of arcs

[magic mason]

Angels probably

Simultaneously being Angels and Magical Girls

[obsidian dagger]

I misread the question.

[vivid wraith]

Warmain or Deceiver

place your bets

[narrow tartan]

Hmm. Maybe. I should find a way to steal a plot from the tragically dead glitch quest. And to go back in time and laser the people who bullied the author over using ai image generation before everyone realized how horrible ai image generation is for the world

[magic mason]

I always thought pied Piper was warmain coded

He has rules

[tall jolt]

I bet a Domain of Respect can do a lot of damage if used right lol

[narrow tartan]

Nuclear spirits for reasons unknown are giant lizards.

[narrow tartan]

Power of Byssus.

Considered spooky because most people dont wven know what it is

[obsidian dagger]

...I don't know what it is. A kind of fabric?

[narrow tartan]

Yes

[vivid wraith]

https://bsky.app/profile/candiedreptile.at.app.wafrn.net/post/3mjsnx3h6652w

whistling in the dark (@candiedreptile.at.app.wafrn.net)

-# Imperobotor (@imperobotor.bsky.social)
Angel of Roadblocks, Unicorns, and Interaction

Bluesky · Apr 19, 2026, 12:08 AM

[frank light]

so pretty....

[narrow tartan]

The lack of an allegorical deepness splat surprises me

Also. Assigning splats to fictional characters and then going with the implications is funny. Like
"Is Aang secretly a giant snake?"

[vivid wraith]

That's true he is

[narrow tartan]

looks up raava huh

I remember. Watching a video once that complained about the Spirits in Korra.

[gloomy oasis]

I really need to read a guide to Chuubo's, I think.

[candid compass]

Chuubo's is at the same time fairly simple and very complicated

[narrow tartan]

New answer to the Bleak, "I don't care if I bleapheme it [the Not]"

[magic mason]

I think the trick to conceptualize answering the bleak is that

The Bleak doesn't necessairly represent The Not, Noble Destruction is also bleak iirc

Is that a bleak miracle is fundamentally unfair, so answering a bleak miracle can be done even by a mortal by refuting that unfairness

Calling to Things You Love, or a Grandiose Asspull

[frank light]

yeah

i think the biggest thing about defending against the bleak is that its not guaranteed

the point is that you only have a little bit of hope

you have to bring out how much you care, you have to focus your attention
and from there, it isnt that it doesnt work, it just...is defended against a little

maybe you dont die, you only get corrupted a little

or if the goal was to corrupt you, maybe it only lets you say that you get corrupted very slowly.

or maybe not everything you have is destroyed, the parts that were important survive

[narrow tartan]

Huh

[vivid wraith]

Song of the Game
https://youtu.be/rsa7u3wh7lE?si=WVpTiyu-sZvoRdgI

[fleet harbor]

Correct

[narrow tartan]

The best part about Byssus as an estate is that the associated species of clam is known asPina nobilis

[obsidian dagger]

is Candace from Phineas and Ferb a Creature of Fable?

Or are the titular kids? Or... both? (I need to actually watch Phineas and Ferb and not just clips but there are so many other things I need to watch first)

[narrow tartan]

Perry the Platypus?

[obsidian dagger]

...honestly? Yeah he might be. "Going off to have your own adventures Off To The Side" is very Creature of Fable also. And arguably getting gadgets from being Called Away to OWCA?

Plausibly there's some Gatecrasher going on also, but he's not an imposter in the world of super agents so I don't know.

[obsidian dagger]

I am convinced that somewhere out there, there's a Creature of Fable who does parkour, and is convinced that they can get where they need to by simply following the clear line of conspicously yellow-painted objects. But nobody else ever seems to notice or do it! It's baffling. They insist "oh, that's just someone growing yellow flowers in a windowbox, not some grand cosmic sign" or "sure, that fire hydrant happens to be yellow, but that's perfectly normal" or "why are you climbing up the ledge someone spilled yellow paint on? Wouldn't that have worse grip?" They just don't get it.

The experience of Creature of Fable is seeing something obvious, something straightforward, that you can't seem to explain or prove to others. So from the outside it looks like Ominous Posturing or Mysterious Scheming or Aura Farming. But internally? That's just how the world works.

Creature of the Light is about being convinced that you are a major character in the world's story as well, but unlike Creature of Fable, this is pretty self-evident. You can easily prove that you are what you say you are. And Creature of Delirium... well, you prove your story to people by forcibly pulling them into it.

[narrow tartan]

Huh. Thats pretty good.

Makes me wonder if CoD and CoF should have their Sickly/Frantic status switched.

No. I think the vibe of the rules fits better.

[gloomy oasis]

I had a really weird thought.

What if there are no actual Imperators? They're all Mimics. But every one of them believes they're the only one.

[narrow tartan]

Spy Family as Mimic game

[narrow tartan]

Darklprd of Instant Noodles

[obsidian dagger]

Isn't there a canonical Noble of Instant Noodle?

[frank light]

Unknown I…forgor

[narrow tartan]

Hikkimori failgirl gamer

[vivid wraith]

Ha-Qadosch Berakha who's on the Council of Four because he's Creation's master of the void. High Summoning, dealing with Deathwrights, etc.

[narrow tartan]

Wait. Is that canon?

[vivid wraith]

nope!

only thing that's canon is that he "treats the world as his playground"

but this gives you a way to attach some implied Glitch NPC hooks to a Nobilis campaign

[candid compass]

we know absolutely nothing about Ha-Qadosch

possible we find out more in 4e

[obsidian dagger]

I'm thinking about I Can Friday By Day again, and how very True God it is to realize that while you believed yourself to be a singular conscious entity you are actually an elaborate mech piloted by an entire crew of aliens.

Unrelatedly, I'm trying to think of which XP action it would be to say "this horrible person is dying in front of me, and if they do not die here it is very probable they will continue to do evil things, and their death would make the world a better place... and I am going to save their life because I Am A Doctor and doctors save lives and don't choose who does or doesn't deserve it". It... feels like a Wicked Action but specifically the kind that gets sheltered under a Divine Warrant?

...is it? Or is it the opposite of that, where it's an XP action for staying true to your morals even when they make your life harder? It's probably contextual.

[obsidian dagger]

Also, just rediscovered my idea for House of the Sun Excrucians with Gatekeeper/Wounded Angel/Prophet/Star Quality.

They are each the seed of a world which is not but could be, a potential future. There is some thread of possibility which they represent. And everybody around you says that this is a horrid and nightmarish world and it is no good and should not be.

[obsidian dagger]

And you know, really and truly, that they’re mostly right. If that seed begins to carelessly sprout it would bring untold destruction. And it would be much easier if you cast it away, turned back, strangled the wicked plant taking root inside you.

But… you won’t. You can’t. Even as horrible as it could be, there’s something really truly beautiful there. There’s a sliver of real unalloyed Good. You cannot turn away from this potential world or the creatures that represent it, because even if they’re usually bad, you know they don’t have to be.

I think this concept is slightly sideways of the original idea and possibly needs Called Away.

[magic mason]

I headcanon tthat the orange fortitude PC is a House Of The Sun Excrucian

[obsidian dagger]

Just had a brain blast. Team Rocket from the Pokemon anime specifically (Jessie + James + Meowth) are Creatures of Delirium. Or possibly a single one who is three people.

[narrow tartan]

I think i see it

[magic mason]

Team rocket as one character makes sense to me

[obsidian dagger]

The main counterargument is that to my knowledge they don't blackmail or control the original owners of their stolen pokemon very often. But otherwise, in a sideways sort of way, it fits.

[obsidian dagger]

So, I'm thinking about Wardens again. And I gave them Gatekeeper/Wounded Angel/Prophet/Star Quality but I increasingly think they need Called Away somewhere in there, because when I tried to describe one I ended up with the phrase "flames of dead hope" and if that isn't a Called Away pseudo-element I don't know what is. But at the same time I don't know what to replace for that.

Also I'm thinking that Mourning of the Six Sins (who is listed as Accursed and picking up Wounded Angel but who is probably supposed to be on Strategist arcs and Wounded Angel was just subbed in for the blue) could, feasibly, be one of these.

[obsidian dagger]

...honestly, Mourning probably should stay a Strategist and the only reason why I doubt his ability to fit as one is due to seeing Strategists as being primarily about their suffering rather than their, well, strategies.

[restive ridge]

New Hell/Heaven discourse fuel just dropped

[fleet harbor]

Yeah that tracks

[restive ridge]

Is Hell Bourgeoise gkat, time sensitive question

[fleet harbor]

Not categorically, and bourgeoisie is actually a Rules estate

But liberal democracy is a hell estate

[frank light]

Elaborate on that

[fleet harbor]

The bourgeoisie …

… are financially, politically, and educationally privileged. (3)
… have a place in the status quo. (1)
… monopolize expertise. (1)
… minimize change and disruption by appropriating it. (1)
… tolerate petty difference but not meaningful disagreement. (1)

In effect, the Rules are the bourgeoisie

[frank light]

Hmm

I

I don’t know if I agree with that

Maybe I’m just someone who likes the rules a lot but

I wouldn’t call them the bourgeoisie

I dunno. It’s a comparison that feels reductive to them as a whole

You can make the argument that the rules contain the bourgeois as an estate among them but…to call them as a whole that feels too flat

Misses nuances I really like about them

They run the spectrum of “faceless emanation of the status quo” to “that screaming voice in the back of your head that urges you not to give up”

Given their two purple arcs and holy, they’re defined a lot by being inspirational and caring deeply

[fleet harbor]

In Theory(tm), the petit bourgeoisie comprise civil servants, university professors, scholars, scientists, and other very serious people who are legitimately important but whose very importance keeps things as they are

[frank light]

I still think that the rules, as a whole, does not necessarily have to mean stasis.

Invention is a part of the rules, and their powers are transformative and catalytic.

[fleet harbor]

Sure, but always in a way that preserves their own importance

The Rules makes a very sound argument for why the Rules are important

[frank light]

I mean in that sense all imperators are the bourgeoise

I don’t think “imperators make themselves important” is necessarily solely part of the rules

[fleet harbor]

Lemme find the bit I’m thinking of

[frank light]

Which, sure yeah I can get behind that

[frank light]

Yea I know that bit

But Shortly after

To say that they want to keep that status quo is I think, at least for all the rules, not exactly true.

They don’t understand how to change that status quo

They want to make humanity immortal so badly but they don’t know how. The ways they can make things immortal would make us no longer human

[fleet harbor]

Right, and the thing about the petit bourgeoisie is that they are not the real class enemy, and indeed frequently agitate for change

[frank light]

Which is why I feel like there’s a lot of nuances

You started this statement with the bourgeoisie rather than the Petit bourgeoisie which is why I felt so strongly about it

[fleet harbor]

Ah, in fairness I have been mostly describing the petit bourgeoisie, not the ownership class

Capitalism is a Games estate >_>

[frank light]

Mhm mhm

I see I see

[fleet harbor]

But the Rules are absolutely petit bourgeoisie coded insofar as even when they want to make things better the human status quo is deeply embedded in their very existence, and to truly change things they too need to surrender their crowns (which they might even be willing to do, but are sort of ontologically incapable of)

[frank light]

They’ve got 2 purple arcs which is the most interesting part

[fleet harbor]

The Rules are the extremely Marxist sociology department at Harvard university, and also the civil service class of Imperial China, and also philanthropist tech billionaires, and also

[frank light]

Of every single splat they’re the most defined by trying

[fleet harbor]

Their labor is a critical pillar of civilization as we know it, for good and for ill

[vivid wraith]

shout-out to the purple quest miracle that guarantees a happy ending that thing's crazy

[frank light]

YEAH

The rules if nothing else know how to give a happy ending-is that an innuendo?

[fleet harbor]

Like, to draw a comparison to Dark Souls

[frank light]

They are anime boys I guess

[frank light]

Oh god

I can

Guess

[fleet harbor]

The Rules relights the Fire

[frank light]

Dark souls is game propaganda im tellin you

If we’re making game comparisons I’ll also bring up disco Elysium

Volition is my reference for the positive end of the spectrum for the rules

[fleet harbor]

And the Rules has a very good rationale for relighting the Fire

Like, relighting the Fire is in some ways the objectively moral thing to do

[frank light]

No matter what, thick and thin, volition does not give up on you.
Volition wants you to be better.
Volition is your better impulse
Volition is this little voice telling you not to die. To keep going. Keep clawing at self control

Volition is the rules, to me. At least at their best

[fleet harbor]

It’s hard to articulate a reason to go willingly into the unknown darkness

[frank light]

It is

[fleet harbor]

To accept total transformation with no guarantee or even indication that it will be better

[frank light]

There’s fair evidence that it is death even

Or at least the death of what you are

[fleet harbor]

The Age of Dark is an absolute unknown, and the only real argument for it is a refusal to accept the way things are.

And so like

The Rules have a compelling case against that

[frank light]

Yeah

They’re bad at giving up

[fleet harbor]

But also I’m sure from my language you can tell I have my doubts

[frank light]

Even if that means transformation

Yea

That’s fair

I’ve just been a rules enjoyer for a while

And feel they get a lot of judgement ;-;

[fleet harbor]

It’s easy to just take them as tyrannical

Which is not their deal

Heaven is tyrannical

[frank light]

For me, as y’know, who I am…

I dunno. I really like the embodiments of our perfect selves, no matter how distant.
I like the embodiments of not giving up and continuing to live. I like…not dying.

The core appeal is “I don’t want to die” and the rules don’t want that either.

The fact that they don’t know how to help, but so desperately try, charms me

They have gardener and architect, two stats that are all about caring and trying but not how a human cares

[fleet harbor]

I am a very memento mori sort of person

[frank light]

They can’t care how a human does, they don’t know how.

But fuck do they want to

I mean I getcha

I just finished outer wilds recently

[fleet harbor]

That is something Robin got straight from me

[frank light]

So holy hell do I getcha

But also

Well. Transgender woman

Fearing death and accepting death, imo, are allowed to be equal

I think you can accept that death is inevitable.

Make peace with it

But also be terrified of it

Terrified of everything you leave behind

I don’t want to give up

If I’m gonna die I’m gonna do it after living a long fucking life clawing to existence tooth and nail

And that’s the rules to me

[fleet harbor]

Well, I don’t see it as giving up

[frank light]

Tooth and nail and claw

I mean it isn’t

I just…I can get behind the desire

I think it is a noble desire, to not want to die.

Struggling to live is something I find deeply relatable

[fleet harbor]

I see it as accepting change and impermanence, of which death is only a small part

[frank light]

And I have a fixation on holy beings

They’re cute what can I say

[fleet harbor]

No kidding? :P

[frank light]

I think about entropy 2 a lot

Entropy 1 was evil as this horrible thing humans do to eachother, this awful wretched desecration we commit to ourselves

Entropy 2 was evil as…an opposite

Evil as a thing we can strive to avoid

Evil as this improving force because of its oppositional nature

Something we may become better through

[fleet harbor]

The Rules are about permanence, but me personally I find that one quote from He The Lord Of Death’s Dominion He to be super compelling >_>

[frank light]

His evil was cleaner, less about desecration and more about…I dunno. A core lesson to it.

A synthesis

Citations are nightbird’s feather and glassmaker’s dragon

[fleet harbor]

Gk is #1 death fan in chat /hj

[frank light]

Entropy in nightbird’s feather(e1) showed a character the seed of evil and demonstrated that every single human deserves to meet a horrible tragic humiliating end

Entropy 2 in glassmaker’s is a transformative person that wants people to become better and also loves and defends the evil world, and seeks ä coexistence between evil and good

E2 exists because e1 broke

E1 committed a good deed.

And so evil, this thing that could not ever be good, had to somehow square that paradox

And e2 is the answer to it

[fleet harbor]

I also take a lot of influence from Baccano

[frank light]

If something that is evil can cause good to happen, then that means evil must be able to do that.

E2 can do that while e1 can’t.

[fleet harbor]

“Mortals and immortals both enjoy life equally” etc etc

[frank light]

It’s possible my ass is just too Christian and so I attach myself to the holy freaks

[fleet harbor]

Have you watched Baccano?

[frank light]

Nope

[fleet harbor]

It’s real good but sorta the core thematic thrust is that the length of a life and its value are just completely orthogonal to each other

I would check it out even if that doesn’t interest you, it’s fantastic

[frank light]

Mhm

[fleet harbor]

Has a great English dub

[frank light]

I recently finished outer wilds and need to go through the dlc

So

One digestion of the value of life at a time I suppose

Heheheh

[fleet harbor]

Because it’s canonically set in 1930s USA

So they got the performers to do the accents and everything

[frank light]

Wow

[fleet harbor]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CyUzUettQ2Y&pp=ygUYY2xhaXJlIHN0YW5maWVsZCBiYWNjYW5v0gcJCdQKAYcqIYzv

Claire is great

Actual solipsist

Most Wildlord character in fiction

[narrow tartan]

Reading a fanfic. And. Character just tells someone to stop existing and it works.

[gloomy oasis]

So how much do Nobles and Imperators know about the motivation of Excrucians?

I do know that, when a human becomes a Noble, they become completely incapable of seeing the Glitch afterwards.

[fleet harbor]

Given Excrucians will not shut up about their motives, they probably know them pretty well

The issue is that they lack the experiences which lend those motives weight

But like, rambling about how the world is a lie, exhibit A, and then exhibit A is a hedgehog? That’s Excrucian 101

[fleet harbor]

The hedgehog is just moseying, to be clear

[gloomy oasis]

And most Strategists don't get to die of their Bane in front of the forces of Creation, because if they do die it's because they're fighting said forces.

[candid compass]

To Nobles, anything a Strategist might say is glitched and wrong just looks normal

Maybe a little weird, but not to the point they'd understand

[candid compass]

So yeah they probably know conceptually, but they won't really understand it

[fleet harbor]

It’s just a hedgehog

[patent tiger]

Sure, it’s a shame how his friend was shot and he was cryogenically frozen for 50 years, but tragedies happen in Creation all the time-

[candid compass]

Also they might
But a lot of Nobles also often think a Strategists Bane is something that they are doing themselves

[fleet harbor]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H71elxohy1Q&pp=ygUTc29uaWMgb3BlbmluZyB0aGVtZQ%3D%3D

[candid compass]

They might very well just go "Huh, I guess their weird evil powers backfired on them, oh well"

[patent tiger]

(Wrong one, but close enough)

[fleet harbor]

And this is extremely believable considering how Wyrd works

Strategists do, in fact, have Bane-themed powers

[ruby ivy]

this is all that's going through my head, reading this

[vivid wraith]

yeah

[magic mason]

I had an idea about a Green Arc for a noble about screwing around with a Glitched Out part of your estate thinking its just a funny version you haven’t seen before

[candid compass]

There's a sidebar in Glitch of I think Malakai complaining how Nobles will see your Bane chase you down and blame you for bringing it into Creation

[magic mason]

Read this like “goblins will see you teleport and say you can’t afford a steed”

[candid compass]

Lmao

True

[frank light]

Malakai complaining that a noble accused him of poisoning tofu

He did poison it he’s just upset about the assumption

Malakai is such an asshole

[candid compass]

That one too, yeah

[candid compass]

found it again

[fleet harbor]

Right, it’s not that the Power is literally incapable of perceiving the tooth man who shoots the strategist with a gun

It’s that they cannot perceive the Glitch

[frank light]

when they see the tooth man theyre like "yeah thats fucked up huh"

but they dont see/connect to the fundamental incorrectness

[frank light]

god wait its a microblog

holy shit

[magic mason]

This was a tweet….

[patent tiger]

Nobilis Bluesky goes soft for sure

[fleet harbor]

The Power of Microblogs

[frank light]

nobilis bsky is great tho cus its just normal bsky

but sometimes a god shows up and just says "had to recalibrate all beetles again"

[fleet harbor]

Well the thing is people already say stuff like that on bsky

So the only difference is that they’re not bullshitting

[narrow tartan]

...what social media would each splat use.

I think Serpents are on Tumblr

[magic mason]

Nono
Angels use tumblr

[candid compass]

This tracks

Equally judgemental

[narrow tartan]

Hmm.

Ah I see.

I think my exposure to tumblr is attpical

[fleet harbor]

Serpents use snumblr

[obsidian dagger]

Serpents feel like they would use either tumblr or blusky, but not in the sense of being a Poster™? They'd look like one of those gimmick accounts which pretends to be a cat or something, or posts daily videos of seals, or something like that.

err, twitter or blusky, probably. They aren't going to ever make longer-form posts. Hell is already posting on tumblr.

[fleet harbor]

Snitter or snusky

[obsidian dagger]

I feel like if any criticism could be levied at Serpents, it would be a sort of indifference. They would use Twitter even after it became X because they wouldn't want to bother moving their presence. They wouldn't be Twitter Users™ but they would, nevertheless, use Twitter.

[obsidian dagger]

I have a punchline without a joke and don't know what to do with it

chancel culture

[fleet harbor]

To me, this is serpents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTo7BVqLmwU

And it is also the problem with serpents

Because people do not live at a distance

Like all Imperators, they're not even wrong

They just fail to understand critical about being a person who lives in the world

That's kinda the brilliance of Glitch, imo

Because the Excrucians, barring maybe Warmains, do seem to understand what being a person is like

And Glitch really brings that home

Fable of the Swan and Night-Bird's Feather achieve something similar

[frank light]

do they?

the critical part of warhost excrucians, to me, is their alienation from the world

strategists suck ass at the whole person thing

and deceivers do not see you and only see this perfect image of what you could be (Much like the rules)

except worse cus that perfect image is something theyre perfectly willing to kill you to achieve

[vivid wraith]

It is kinda hard for me to picture them settling down before giving up on the war

[fleet harbor]

Oh I don't see them settling down

But like

How do I put this

Strategists suck at the whole person thing in the way that people suck at the whole person thing

They're ... soggy

And bad at being alive

And unlike an Imperator that's not because they have the option of going off to do something different

If that makes sense

They are miserable and imperfect beings, trapped in a world they never made

[narrow tartan]

Its me

[fleet harbor]

I look at an Imperator and I see a fragment of the human condition, exaggerated at the expense of all others

[frank light]

I think deceivers and strategists can comprehend people inasmuch as they pity them for their existence, but there is a fundamental disconnection that exists until an excrucian retires

Cus they have to look at everything a person is and say “and it should be destroyed”

[fleet harbor]

I look at an Excrucian and I see a person who is having a really bad time and is making it everyone else's problem, on some level

[frank light]

Deceivers don’t see you, they don’t see who you are, really. Only some perfect image that is foreign and alien

Strategists see you as trapped in the muck of the wrongness of the world

And warmains can be kind and courteous but only approach people as prey

[fleet harbor]

Warmains I made the exception for :P

[frank light]

Until an excrucian stops fighting there is a disconnect to their understanding of people or the human experience

It’s even pointed out in glitch

Particularly flore

Strategists universally tend to have low flore

And the low flore descriptions demonstrate a clear…barrier between understanding being a person

[patent tiger]

Not even humans understand the human experience, really.

[frank light]

True enough I guess

But I think excrucians are characterized by being alienated

[patent tiger]

I do agree there, yeah.

[frank light]

At odds with existence itself

[fleet harbor]

I guess I don't see this as an inhuman experience

[patent tiger]

Excrucians can be looked at from a human lens, but what they are is a destructive thing.

[fleet harbor]

I see it as a very human experience, if anything

[frank light]

That alienation shows up in some imperators too tbh

It’s just that if imperators represent the experience of the world, for all that is good or bad

[frank light]

Excrucians tend to represent the things that alienate you from the world

Whether it be some foreign concept that is better than it but not there

[fleet harbor]

Like, the point here is that this is life

[frank light]

Or its pains and sorrows

[fleet harbor]

Being at the mercy of the deadly space turnip

[frank light]

I’m afraid I don’t follow

[fleet harbor]

To paraphrase Sartre, you arrive on the stage without being told your lines and then a weirdo in purple chases you around without explanation for twenty-five minutes

[frank light]

Gotcha

[fleet harbor]

... the part about the purple guy may not be Sartre

[frank light]

Excrucians and imperators both feel like they’re at the mercy of the other

Strategists and deceivers and warmains want to destroy the world because of its unworthy nature

Deceivers and strategists see the world as this awful thing and the people in it as its victims

Something they cannot escape truly without its destruction

However imperators cannot escape excrucians

No matter how they try, for all that they are infinite, they cannot escape death

The true death

The death of everything

[fleet harbor]

And like, to some extent I guess strategists and deceivers kinda read themselves onto humans

[frank light]

The ages march forward without end

Imperators are at the mercy of an infinite void that wants them gone

[fleet harbor]

Actually, I think that's my big thing

[frank light]

And by extension all of existence

[fleet harbor]

Deceivers and strategists see the world as this awful thing and the people in it as its victims
Because they see themselves as its victims first and foremost

Or, that's half of my big thing

[frank light]

For sure

At least, strategists

[narrow tartan]

Ive reached the conclusion. That deceicers are very performative.

[frank light]

Voidborn deceivers and deceivers in general are weird

[fleet harbor]

The other half is that they are engaged in saying

it's not okay
In a way Imperators don't really know how to be

[frank light]

Coming to the world to save you from it

I think its odd

[fleet harbor]

A lot of my deceiver-thinking is very Fable of the Swan

[frank light]

Imperators aren’t exactly static either.

Angels and the rules are constantly obsessed with improving things, hell is taken to its sacred duty of witnessing

True gods protect and maintain the earth from both

Serpents….

Well

Serpents

[fleet harbor]

The world is blue and green

[frank light]

They all make answer to the world

[fleet harbor]

And the snow-capped mountains white

[frank light]

It’s just that the void’s answer to the world is sniffing it out

The knife, swishing this way and that.

While I’m deeply sympathetic to each individual excrucian, I find myself becoming less sympathetic to their cause

Death is inevitable but it also kinda sucks

Dying sucks

[fleet harbor]

I dunno, Nobilis circa glitch does a very good job of making all of the Imperator types feel fragmentary

Oh I'm completely unsympathetic to their cause

But what could be more human than doing something asinine in blind fury

[frank light]

Maybe

[fleet harbor]

But like, Jasmine in particular and deceivers in general often feel very ... driven by trauma, in a very particular way?

[frank light]

I guess I see them more as embodying something uncaring, and in the act of interfacing with existence and its people, become complicated

[fleet harbor]

Like a very particular sort of neurodivergent rationalization of their own pain

[frank light]

They’re the embodiments of the faceless force of annihilation and entropy and everything meaning nothing

And then upon contact with the world become…infected with it

All of them do

Including warmains

Allegory is the stat for becoming entangled with the world

Very explicitly so

[fleet harbor]

It's just like

I know people who remind me of strategists and deceivers, not in their malice, but in the way they rationalize their pain as meaning something about the world

I'm trying to capture what exactly leads me to think this way

And I think like

The various Imperator types all feel like parts of people to me

Whereas 3/4 Excrucian types feel like very unhappy people

And whereas Imperators feel like they occupy a space between being deeply wise and kinda stupid as hell

Excrucians never feel wise

They are 0% wisdom

[obsidian dagger]

The great virtue of Serpents is that that they don't understand why one person would want to hurt another, and the great failing of Serpents is that they don't understand why one person would want to hurt another.

They're not infinitely forgiving like Hell is; they just don't understand. I feel like the concepts of "vengence" or "justice" or even "hurting someone by accident by playing too rough with them" would just kind of... slide off of them.

[fleet harbor]

Sneace and snove

Are easy things to believe in, from a distance

[obsidian dagger]

I could see Angels demanding you always forgive the other person, always be better, always be kinder, never snap back when hurt. But I think Serpents would moreso just be... confused. They're as kind as a river.

They never want to hurt anyone, but sometimes they do, usually without realizing.

[frank light]

They’re natural forces

Storms hurt people. A lot

Even when they don’t mean to

They’re just too…big

[obsidian dagger]

Normally I like the Chuubo's arc names, but Vastness is definitely a fitting name for a thing they have.

[magic mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRtVFIsYPLI
Serpent Type Song I think

[gloomy oasis]

So what is Howard the Duck Dying of?

[gloomy oasis]

That's because you're seeing them in aggregate, as an entry in a book. It's like how, in Star Trek, you get stereotypes like "Vulcans are logical, Klingons are warlike, Ferengi are conniving", but each of them is still a person. They're more than their splat.

[fleet harbor]

Humans

[magic mason]

The upside of killing a Lord Of Games in Nobilis is that you finally get them to stop bothering you for a bit and maybe you teach them a lesson.

the downside is hearing the distant
I WAS REINCARNATED AS THE KNIFE PRINCESS AND NOW I HAVE TO REASSERT DOMINON OVER MY OLD KINGDOM!!!!

Every time you do it

[candid compass]

augh

[restive ridge]

This is you must first wage economical warfare on their kingdom before going in for the kill

[magic mason]

idea:

Rules Magister who is Doing A Scheme To Try To Restore Divinity To A Portion Of Humanity(Probably like, a city)

But in the process they are ritually unmaking themselves and their estates doing a lot of damage to creation in the process, and your nobles are sent to like.... do SOMETHING

[fleet harbor]

Yes

This is good

[obsidian dagger]

Thoughts: some Deceivers really feel like they probably ought to have Creature of Fable, and the reason I think that is probably because I've misinterpreted something. But I'm looking at Gwenpool.

[obsidian dagger]

So, is there a name for the law that Nobles are not allowed to fall in love, and/or a stated rationale for it? Because I was just randomly thinking that Miquella the Kind sort of independently came to that conclusion from first principles.

[patent tiger]

The Windflower Law.

[obsidian dagger]

Miquella's rationale, as I understand it, is that a person would sacrifice the lives of two strangers to save the life of one person they love, and therefore love is evil (or, at least, should not be permitted in divinity).

[patent tiger]

And, as for justifications for it, here's the text on the subject from Nobilis 2e.

[obsidian dagger]

...are Imperators allowed to love? (Whatever that would even look like.)

Or is that also a crime to some extent?

[vivid wraith]

reconsidering "never let a mortal get the best of you" as a plot hook generator

[patent tiger]

Strictly speaking, these are laws applied to the Nobilis and only the Nobilis.

[vivid wraith]

They are

We don't hear as much about the permitted and healthy relationships though

[patent tiger]

Lord Entropy is probably unhappy when other Imperators fall in love, but he doesn't have the law on his side.

[vivid wraith]

you have to deal with this freak claiming you're only the second best pastry chef in Creation, bc if you leave him alone you're under arrest

[obsidian dagger]

Isn't that the crux of the Arachne myth?

[vivid wraith]

I don't remember Athena being pressured by Lord Entropy at all

[patent tiger]

Kaiketsu Zubat...

[vivid wraith]

exactly

[obsidian dagger]

Anyway, I have no idea what Miquella is doing (my first guess would be a Fallen Angel turning themself into a mimic, bizarrely) but it definitely feels appropriate to this channel.

I say "bizarrely" and then immediately remember Leonardo.

[vivid wraith]

https://lemonsweet.tumblr.com/post/813561094775996416

Very fascinated by this Walmart shirt. Could they not use the actual phrase or something? It's not even specifying "when you're mean to me" it's just when you're mean in general this particular bunny gets hurt. She carries all suffering. This bunny experiences all evil in the world.

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[narrow tartan]

I exist

[vivid wraith]

-Firstborn

[narrow tartan]

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/scenes-from-a-drowned-ash-chuubos-marvelous-wish-granting-engine.52659/

Random thing i found

[fleet harbor]

Hmmmmm Ace + Child of the Ash

For when you just need to be judo Godzilla

[gloomy oasis]

What other games let you be judo Godzilla?

[obsidian dagger]

just had a horrible realization

this is literally how Making Answer to the Bleak works

The inescapable prison of suffering may be softened by duty and by love.

[frank light]

Yea

[vivid wraith]

https://bsky.app/profile/blueamaryllis.bsky.social/post/3mkvtcyggak2n

leva+ (@blueamaryllis.bsky.social)

girl I don't mean to alarm you but the author has very clearly assembled a mythopoetic framework around you and metaphor has accrued more weight than reality

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[magic mason]

Allegorical

[obsidian dagger]

definitely something Orange

yeah probably Allegorical.

[narrow tartan]

Warmain allegorical?

Powrr of meeples

[vivid wraith]

reality syndrome mayhaps
https://bsky.app/profile/mimillmon.bsky.social/post/3mizftreync2x

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[gloomy oasis]

I'm thinking about stuff that λ-exists, and I believe I have a mental model of it.

You know that factoid where 1+2+3+4+... = -1/12?

Well, it's not -1/12, it's a nonconvergent series, but saying it's -1/12 is less wrong than saying it's 2, or π.

Similarly, a λ-centipede is not a centipede, but saying it's one is less wrong than saying it's a banana.

And its λ-properties can be determined the same way.

[magic mason]

That’s fun

[magic mason]

My mental model of the Not sort of leans into the Fairy Tale aspect of excrucians

A fictional Apple has all the same properties of an Apple, but its not like you can eat it

A fictional world can have insanely structured and cohesive lore that you can care about deeply, but it didn’t happen

[patent tiger]

The Not is like worldbuilding in a ttrpg...

[magic mason]

Honestly yeah

especially imo, the way I tend to imagine the not as sorta… paused on a single moment in most locations, only changing in response to outside stimulus like creation

Originally the warmains desmene was in perfect harmony forever and always

Now it is in crisis forever and always, due to the presence of creation

Things like Eide for strategists and mimics and the red arcs of Warmains and Deceivers very much give the Impression of them as characters to me

Like the way a fictional character is distinct from a real person

The fundamental ways

[restive ridge]

The Not is one of those medias that shouldnt have had a fandom (Creation)

[magic mason]

Even more minor things

Like the way Not-Things look the way you expect them to look, rather than having a defined appearance , gives them the impression of something born from the written word

Or well

Operating on its logic

[narrow tartan]

I figure. Things in the not do change gradually but it can change backwards or side to side as well

And it tends to be indeterminate

Or something

Strategists definitely have wide dreams

Deceivers I guess have deep dreams

While Warmains have long dreams

Mimics have tall dreams

[fleet harbor]

I just focus on the fact that in the Not things are Of Themselves

In Creation, an apple is an apple because the whole rest of Creation looks at it and says, “apple”

There’s a web of connections and relationships in which the apple is intermeshed; a sequence of properties and causal connections that make it an apple in the context of the whole rest of Creation

A not-apple, on the other hand, sees itself and says “apple”

Or, well, “not-apple”

It is lit with its own inner light

Not given form by the light of the sun

[fleet harbor]

Even this is not quite right, it isn’t a declaration to anything else

It simply isn’t an apple

That’s all

Not-things have specific relationships to each other, whereas things are all related to each other

[narrow tartan]

Hmm. I lack inner light

[fleet harbor]

I think there’s something deeply wonderful about being part of something vast and strange and complicated, and that’s the virtue of Creation that the Not fails to understand

[candid compass]

The Excrucians would say this is because the perception of Creation is oppressing you, and stopping you from realizing your dream of self

[gloomy oasis]

https://www.tpmblr.com/dizzyhslightlyvoided/640045036646662145

[gloomy oasis]

I thought of a potential pState for a Deceiver. The Multiple Choice Past of [Name]:

• ...is different each time.
• ...explains their current skills and talents.
• ...has other people who encountered them then.
• ...takes a while to explain.
  And I'm not sure about the others. Any suggestions?

[magic mason]

I feel like you could have something dark and painful to it

Both Because applying that offensively is good and because I love deceivers with a bit of angst

I still think about how (Those who listen to Coriander Hasp) started off as soldiers under his command that he was forced to execute and one of the properties is (Thinks he is kinda hot)

[gloomy oasis]

Yeah, I was thinking something like how all their enemies are from their past, even if it overlaps with the third property.

[narrow tartan]

Blehp

Uhhh.
Pathfinder adventure and it turns out that the evil cult is worshipping Coriander Hasp

[magic mason]

I had a stroke of inspiration

[narrow tartan]

Inception but the dead wife is a Deceiver.

Or strategist. Which. Is really screwed up

[narrow tartan]

What miraculous arcs would make most interesting fight anime power system if you included all the greebles.

[vivid wraith]

Gatecrasher sets up a whole hidden world's capabilities, not just yourself

and also it's Fate

so

historically demonstrated juice

[narrow tartan]

nodnod fair enough

I had the thought about Called Away. And. You could twist it into a fight scene where both people summon an otherworld

And are trying to get in an advantageous positiob

[obsidian dagger]

That's how some xianxia goes

[narrow tartan]

I feel like. This is the best summation of deceivers

[obsidian dagger]

...I was going to suggest Reality Syndrome, but that's not a power system. It's like the kind of thing where you have powers that are not part of a system.

anyway read this https://mangadex.org/title/2107b84a-fc7f-41ca-afb6-9935e614bac1/murasakiiro-no-qualia

[narrow tartan]

True but. I specified greebles for a reason. So if it was reality syndrome it would come with the arm control nerve sharing experiences with the world bit. Which would still be interesting

[obsidian dagger]

Honestly, Qualia the Purple is just Deceiver romance?

[obsidian dagger]

Thinking about Yomi no Tsugai/Demons of the Shadow Realm and slight spoilers but ||Break is really just the World-Breaker's Hand isn't it?||

||And Seal might be as well, honestly.||

[narrow tartan]

Nobles probably know that there is a thing that kills strategists. Like. "Yeah she turns to chocolate and eats herself" but it is not seen as a flaw in creation.

[frank light]

They are aware of banes and curses

And can intuit that creation itself rejects strategists

But they don’t tend to follow that into “so the world is wrong”

Cus it is possible that the world isn’t wrong! Who knows

Strategists are rejected by the world, that much can be seen to be true

But there isn’t much evidence from the noble perspective that the strategist pov is true

[narrow tartan]

okay

[fleet harbor]

They don’t perceive The Glitch, but they can perceive the tooth man just fine

[vestal mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/376307046204571668/1503889240772182036/image.png?ex=6a04fd7f&is=6a03abff&hm=f3e7914b076d90ec86b5673871c58d2bd206c0129a91252c507ba33598d2295b&

[obsidian dagger]

this is barely comprehensible, thank you

meanwhie this is happening in general

[patent tiger]

This was a fascinating read.

[fleet harbor]

Dogs wish to save the world, obviously

[obsidian dagger]

Yeah. I’m not sure what else I could call it but it’s definitely fascinating.

[obsidian dagger]

I honestly think Qualia the Purple highlights all the Deceiver arcs? It definitely has a great example of Deceiver Awakening.

[obsidian dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIg36-F2YY is this Creature of the Light? (I need to listen to more of the Dear Hunter stuff for sure.)

I saw it associated with Leonardo de Montreal also, and it could be Wounded Angel also.

[obsidian dagger]

I have no idea what this is.

Creature of Delirum? Creature of the Light? Primordial? Wounded Angel?

[narrow tartan]

Hmm. Using Extraction for therapuetic purposes

[obsidian dagger]

Very possible! Most Creatures of Delirium think this is ultimately what they're doing but it is entirely within the realm of possibility for them to be right.

I would suggest watching Artiswitch for something resembling an example, but it has some real CWs for suicidal imagery/discussion and isn't the sort of thing to watch if you're in a bad headspace.

[obsidian dagger]

...what happens if a Noble loves someone prior to their enNoblement?

[restive ridge]

Better swear it isnt the case anymore

[frank light]

Well they better keep their love a secret

[narrow tartan]

Hmm. Ideas and headcanons. How often to redo them

Probably when you start a new game

[obsidian dagger]

found this incredible philosophy article which seems relevant to this https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/holes/

[obsidian dagger]

...this is fascinating, uses a lot of specialized vocabulary I don't fully understand, and I still don't know if holes are real.

[gloomy oasis]

Make them an Anchor?

[magic mason]

@obsidian dagger for your consideration for creature of delirium song
https://youtu.be/3PuMk6e24I8?si=B5PDgHujFMG_6fo3

[patent tiger]

This one's a classic

[magic mason]

So give me your fire 
give me your fear 
give me your faith when love gives you tears
Give me your heart
give me your fate 
give me your hand when love gives you hate
Give me your prayers up on your feet and I'll give you a show 
it helps fill the seats
So give me your sins 
give me your lies 
but whisper your love
And I'll whisper mine

[fleet harbor]

Dying of being spider man

[narrow tartan]

Dying of reboots

[vivid wraith]

dying of youth

[obsidian dagger]

this is just how Horizon works

[narrow tartan]

Ended up thinking about weird world where history runs backwards

Possibly. Populate it with shapes

[restive ridge]

The Trials of Red Desire:
-Escalate in Intensity
-Help Red Desire grow stronger
-Cast beloved ones as opponents
-Are always surmountable
-Posess a higher purpose
-Go well with an expresso martini
-Deny good-rest

[narrow tartan]

I am contemplating renaming the glitch miraculous arcs based on random aesthetic preferences

Allegory becomes Archetype

Monsttous becomes Dire

Gatecrasher and Wounded Angel are replaced by Gaslighter and Girlbosser.

[fleet harbor]

Snrrrk

[fleet harbor]

https://wouldtheybecomeafearavatar.tumblr.com/post/774914525811163136/would-my-friends-grandma-who-once-kicked-a

Would they become an avatar of a Fear

-# ↩ 👤

Would my friend's grandma, who once kicked a mushroom and caused its spores to germinate and turn what was once a regular albeit water damaged room into the mold room, be an avatar of the Corruption?

-# ↪...

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Reposting from #av-club

[vivid wraith]

Incredible

[gloomy oasis]

I just realized why Glitch is about Strategists, and why the Riders Abstinence Society has so many more of them than Deceivers or Warmains.

The starting point for Strategists is "This whole world is rotten and I should burn it." So if one discovers something worthwhile about Creation, that's the first step in ceasing to wage war against it.