Indie+Alternative Wargaming

[orchid leaf]

Amd, thanks. They're all based on mine + friends FFXIV characters. well. I asked all those people to pick a mini for their character but I'm the only one actually playing a blue cat

Pennywen ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) They look really awesome!

[tepid steeple]

Played infinity yesterday

V white banner

My morlock sāchā picked up a flamethrower right as she was being creeped up on by a fire team it was very clutch haha

[orchid leaf]

As I understand infinity is pretty good at crazy clutch moments.

Still wonder how much sooner I'd have played more if my first intro game 15byears ago didn't have a sniper start the game in a high tower without enough sight blocking terrain

I mean. I had that sniper. But a t0 win was a little silly.

[tepid steeple]

Yeah it can be like that 😭

N5 is pretty nice though, lots of access to vision control across factions and fire teams dont give tower snipers +3 to hit and sixth sense

[sudden halo]

I've been on a tear painting, 3 models in as many days. I'm playing QK in the duos tournament at Adepticon so Ive got about 4 weeks to finish this army.

Im still not great at listbuilding for them and 200 point list building is quite difficult.

Just not quite enough points to get 3 things, and it doesn't feel right to just have 2 things. Things being game plans/properly supported order using pieces in this case.

That said my duos partner is playing vanilla PanO and we realized together we can run 4 TR bots and 2 helots

[tepid steeple]

Qk 🥰

I love your yuan yuan

I guess maybe you could look like you have three plans and the enemy doesnt know which two are real

[sudden halo]

That's true. Im not used to having holomask around.

[tepid steeple]

Burkut is a super efficient piece that Ive always enjoyed using in rtf

[sudden halo]

Also I could just do cheaper plans. There is lots of good ~25 point medium infantry in QK.

[tepid steeple]

So many!

[sudden halo]

Though there's so much power in the iguana or zeybek that it's hard to not want to bring one or the other at least

[tepid steeple]

druze hackers are great for x visor pitchers, duoable

Haha true

Iguana is really fun with laxmee

I picked up a zeybeck but Ive yet to actually use it

[sudden halo]

Which profiles do you like? Ive kind of overlooked them as at first glance they seemed to be a bit overpriced due to their keyword soup, but I haven't played one.

[tepid steeple]

Panzerfaust or light rocket

[sudden halo]

I used the go pod a ton in Bakunin, so I'm excited to try a tankier less bullshit vehicle.

[tepid steeple]

I just really like the mim and nwi; engineer, vet, dcharges for classifieds; continuous immune is a significant chunk of hard aros, ap mine is nice for incidental opportunities

[sudden halo]

+B boarding shotguns are always really good.

[tepid steeple]

I run baggage repeaters quite a lot so

Yeee

I think he has more competition in qk, to be fair

[sudden halo]

Though usually better on a drop troop or camo guy, still they absolutely bonk things if you get even to the 0 range band.

[tepid steeple]

Odalisques look pretty cute now but I havent played since the update haha

[sudden halo]

Really curious to try the Korsan parachutist DZ. They're like minimum viable product for that role. Im used to dukash, Spector, or the rasyat which are all significantly more expensive

That marksmanship viral mmr seems like a lot of fun

[tepid steeple]

Korsan are great! I like contender in a ghulam team as an aro, but obviously dz parachutist is awesome

Spoilt for choice in qk honestly

[sudden halo]

Contenders are so good these days. They're pretty underrated since they were terrible in N4.

[surreal grail]

What game is this?

[supple shale]

Infinity

[sudden halo]

Yep, Infinity! The first two are Brawlers and the last is a Yuan Yuan.

[twin mountain]

well then.

fair enough.

wasn't quite expecting to jump to rank 1

WAIT WRONG CHANNEL

[modern snow]

BSS just put their not-Necromunda game up for preorder: https://blacksitestudio.com/pages/kosmika

[tawny sandal]

Interesting!

[twin mountain]

https://bsky.app/profile/horror-vacui-minis.bsky.social/post/3mfvrd3pi3k2b @modern snow

Horror Vacui Miniatures (@horror-vacui-minis.bsky.social)

It took a lot, but here is a first draft of a primer for Obskura cleareance, a skirmish game of occult warfare. Feedback is always welcome.

#wargames #wargaming #skirmish #tabletopgames #miniatureagnostic #playtest #weirdwar #indiegames

horrorvacuiminiatures.wordpress.com/2026/02/28/o...

-# Obskura cleareance – primer alpha version
Today I finished a first complete draft of the primer for Obskura cleareance. It’s complete in the sense that it offers a full game experience, from Squad creation to a fully playable mission…

Bluesky · Feb 28, 2026, 8:05 AM

[hollow slate]

In Trench Crusade news, the proposed changes to Iron Sultanate have the playerbase hooting and hollering

“Everything is expensive now but very good”

[echo marten]

oh?

[hollow slate]

https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-the-iron-sultanate/

Alaybozan has the shotgun tag and more ammo options so its not awful, halberd-gun got insanely buffed to have +1 injury dice, Assault, Block, and got Shield Combo, at the cost of being Heavy

Flame Cannon got Assault so melee bulls are so much better, Bulls are a mite more expensive but have an extra action on charge to knock enemies down for free, as well as innate helmet for shrapnel protection

Lions of Jabir can get Cleave 2 on their claws for an upgrade, the Yüzbaşı has innate Strong and the Janissary Veteran option is swapped over to the new Janissary ability, which doubles the instrument bonus (and Janissaries can also carry the regimental soup spoon, which counts as an instrument but is hands-free)

Alchemists can get a kit for healing Taqwin creations, IS gets access to gas grenades and a new Alchemical Fire upgrade which bypasses fire immunity, and Corrosive Ammunition, which is a limited ammo type similar to alchemical ammunition that adds Armour-Piercing

All in all, though the sub-factions are left a bit out in the cold (except for Alchemists), this fixes a lot of problems people have had with IS

[next pilot]

stumbled across malediction, anyone know much about it?

they sell standees with cardboard cutouts if you don't want to get the full minis which I will admit intrigues me

[tepid steeple]

Some of my locals played it for a minute after getting it last year at ukge

It was apparently good ^^ the models are really nice

[sand sonnet]

It’s an interesting hybrid of LCG and minis game.

I played a game at my local shop and enjoyed it, but I wasn’t a huge fan of the stl only model option

[next pilot]

I think you can order full models from them now, they have a free print and cut out demo as well, will try to try that out with my brother

the factions are pretty blatantly the mtg colors, although there's no green

[next pilot]

whats that other cardboard standee game? It was factions that really read as warcraft and was a hex grid without any rng

right, legacy's allure

[compact leaf]

DWARF TIME

(there are still more profiles coming)

[tepid steeple]

The enhancement card stuff is coool

[twin mountain]

Do we have the rulebook yet?

[modern snow]

alas

[twin mountain]

_> hmm

[sand sonnet]

Classic CB.

[compact leaf]

More dorf

Uhhh
So
Winged
I'm regularly poking them about it
And they've suddenly become a bit cagey
Which...
Likely means there's planned release date that they'd like to tell me, but aren't allowed to just yet

[compact leaf]

Yessss
It's an interesting design space they've opened up

[modern snow]

mayhaps... adepticon?

[tepid steeple]

I assume therell at least have to be a rules update for the new concept even if its pretty self explanatory

[compact leaf]

I'm hoping
It sorta makes sense to delay the 2.0 version of the rules until the last of the factions for wave 1 is released

[tepid steeple]

Itd be a reason

[compact leaf]

It's literally the only reason I can think of besides the classic "we're gonna work on it some more to make sure it's perfect"

[tepid steeple]

Hopefully getting me some archers thursdayy

[compact leaf]

Hell yeah

[tepid steeple]

Gonna try stringing their bows

[compact leaf]

I'm.. still waiting for our shipment to come in

But looking forward to it!

[tepid steeple]

Oof :((

[tepid steeple]

Yeah!

[compact leaf]

And the big ol' ITS pack has my beloved Hsien in it...

[tepid steeple]

I found the haytham a bit underwhelming but then I realised its just cause the zeybek was so good and I still think its the second coolest flyer at least hehe

Seems like the pilot is the same between them

Also I like crazy koala key chain

[compact leaf]

I'm a big fan of the Haytham, definitely top 3 flyer design for me

It looks like it would swing its tail around its centre of mass and zip around

Oh!
And the very first ever sculpted thunderbolt goes to KCF

[tepid steeple]

Indeeed

[modern snow]

I'll definitely be buying two of this pack, it's pretty common for us to see 2x thunderbolt fennecs in local Kestrel lists and I wanna run max AVA drummers at some point >:3

[compact leaf]

Welp
There's the flamethrower one

I appreciate the flash pulse just kinda welded to the end of it

[tepid steeple]

Trifire thunderbolt is neat. Thunderbolts are horrific aro weapons in general too. Hate them so much

[compact leaf]

It's
Really rather stronk

Wish I had trifire thunderbolts but alas...

[tepid steeple]

I dont think any of my factions have it on anything other than tr bot haha

[compact leaf]

I have things that should have trifire, but they don't

C'mon CB, put it on Cranes

[tepid steeple]

What do you think about the ISS flyer till

My warcor was complaining about it and tbf he was comparing it to the nextwave one haha

[compact leaf]

Oh I think it's actually pretty good design wise
I rate it higher than the Firebat, Go-Pod, and Skyhound

Oh wait
Unless you mean the rules

Cause uhh
In that case..
While being the cheapest flyer, it's also the worst one

[tepid steeple]

I did mean rules haha

[compact leaf]

I think it's actually fairly good

Mostly on account of being a flyer

[tepid steeple]

Does the flyer things

Fair

[compact leaf]

It's just not a Skyhound
Which
Admittedly
Is definitely a bit over-optimized

But you can't scoff at the funny +1SD flash pulse and pitchers literally anywhere you want

[tepid steeple]

Yeah I really like the +1 Sd

And flash pulse and AK are non lethal but stops that go through immune

[compact leaf]

Mhm mhm

I do kinda wish the nonlethal one had a riotstopper or something but oh well

[tepid steeple]

That would be nice

[compact leaf]

That seems to be more something for the factions that are better off financially 😅

We struggle in YJ

Like
This guy
Makes me so very sad

Because he looks so cool

But
Profile
Poopoo garbage..

[tepid steeple]

Stimky

Sadd

[compact leaf]

And then you look over at Adil for literally the same price and realize what having nice things is like

But I won't bring more energy to that here than I need to
I have an entire YJ chat where we lament the state of Cranes monthly

[tepid steeple]

Yeah for suree

[twin mountain]

Well we'll see I guess

[compact leaf]

Yeah..

I have hope
But CB does genuinely take a very long time to do most things

[orchid leaf]

Ok uh
Recently learned abt the firelock shit. Any good less chuddy wargames that scratch a similar itch?

[twin mountain]

hrngrngrnh don't knwo of any :(

[orchid leaf]

Hmmm

Time to go to work

[tepid steeple]

if I'm getting the vibe right, fulda rift maybe?

ummm

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RRKWeSw3dN0eI8TiDFBpceZ3rdXPfKL_HfGE3crVXcw/edit?tab=t.0

peep this

[orchid leaf]

The vibe is mostly “cold war limited information game”

[tepid steeple]

it's very wip and currently kinda dormant but riposte fucks and fulda rift fucks

ah not much hidden info though

[orchid leaf]

I like icebreaker (#2 fan) but it doesn’t have enough hidden info for me

[twin mountain]

Hell yeah

[twin mountain]

Yeah that's the thing

I know what Felicity means when she finds fire lock cool

You have so many decoys on the field

[tepid steeple]

yeah absolutely fair

[twin mountain]

You're playing this wild cat and mouse thing

[tepid steeple]

hidden information is awesome

I like it a lot in infinity :x

[orchid leaf]

My two big projects (Riflewitch and Barrage/Heaven War) both focus on decision making based off public info

So I’ll need to start from scratch

Gonna move to #game-design-discussion

[sudden halo]

Yeah, Infinity is likely the biggest hidden information wargame in terms of popularity.

[orchid leaf]

unfortunately it is about as far from Cold War you can go without reaching dinosaur era

And I already own it and have nobody to play with

Curse of Wyoming

Felicity (Meowstrid) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) And I already own it and have nobody to play with

[tepid steeple]

also does firelock have cold war werewolves :(

[orchid leaf]

Yah

[tepid steeple]

sadface cause I'm really proud of my own version of that idea haha

[orchid leaf]

I’d love to hear it

[tepid steeple]

uh its like a metaphor for people who go to war and thrive and then never want to not be doing war so they become mercenaries

like the SAS guy

[orchid leaf]

Ohhh I see

[tepid steeple]

but they're also kinda 40k orky and do dumb soldiers of fortune vibe questionably sensible fighting stuff

and then thematically I based them on landsknecht because the origin for my idea was just the pun Lycansknecht

anddd I did some drawings I wanna find

[orchid leaf]

Big fan

Pennywen ↩️

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https://tenor.com/view/kita-bocchi-the-rock-kita-ikuyo-clap-happy-gif-10036180577568127404

[tepid steeple]

thank youu

[sudden halo]

It's neat to see a lot more Cold War inspired stuff coming up. I guess we're about as far from the Cold War now as we were from WWII when a lot of their Weird War II type stuff started coming out.

[tepid steeple]

one of the things I like about fulda rift and ww3 stuff is there's a lot of cool and dumb and scary stuff that never got used irl and historicals made me sad

not that there wasn't any hot conflicts in the cold war ofc

[sudden halo]

Im also vaguely working on a thing (mostly as an RPG campaign but also as skirmish rules), taking Twilight: 2000 and putting it in a blender with Arknights and Metal Gear/Ace Combat style super weapons projects and real-feeling notrealworlds.

[echo marten]

...I really need to get back into working on my Fulda Rift stuff.

I was doing up Fulda Rift Australia.

[tepid steeple]

and it's really cool!

[echo marten]

ADF
Carrying the best equipment that the US didn’t want and with a fervent desire to be anywhere else, the Australian army’s morale isn’t doing great. On the plus side, they’ve got a million M113 turret variants to test and experience with the fuzzy wuzzy angels back in Kokoda has given them a lot of institutional expertise in jungle fighting. Now if only they could find a Jungle over here in Europe.

ANZAC Spirit
Borne upon a spectral horse, the ANZAC Spirit calls again for the country to bleed in the name of Conquest. In its presence, soldiers get a dreamy smile and talk about heroism, duty and the immortality of legend. The ANZAC spirit never speaks of mud and blood and tears; of watching comrades and friends die screaming for a medic that will be too late.

Test Cricketeer
The height of Australian sporting achievement, test cricketers are considered gods among men down under. Much like gods, they spend most of their time partying, starting stupid fights and abusing bystanders caught in the wake of their messy scandals. This prestige buys them a level of leeway with conscription, many of them finding themselves in leadership positions as it’s the way they’re most likely to avoid getting shot. Despite that, most find it impossible to avoid showboating and demonstrating that you can bowl a sticky grenade into the treads of most tanks if you put the spin on it just right.

Rifle Group
Entirely sick of dying for another country’s wars and with conscription incredibly unpopular, Australian infantry morale is in the toilet. Having served during the Malayan Emergency in such notable roles as ‘Jungle Warfare’, ‘Counter-Terror Actions’ and ‘Forcing suspected communists into concentration camps’, the average Digger doesn’t have a high view on the righteousness of any war he’s dragged into by another country.  On the plus side however, while the L1A1 is semi-automatic, it packs a lot more punch than the plastic toys the yanks have.

It's fun to be just a bit of a 'locally salty asshole' when writing up Fulda Rift stuff.

[autumn sun]

https://www.myminifactory.com/tribes/WYRDGames/posts/Welcome_to_the_Fields_of_Glory-90710

[tepid steeple]

that's the malifaux larger scale wargame?

[autumn sun]

Yup.

Never played it, so I can't comment on if it's any good.

[native portal]

Uhhh fuzzy wuzzy as a term has some complex origins

That might be worth thinking about

[echo marten]

It's tricky as 'Fuzzy Wuzzy' has derogatory origins but...it's also the official name of PNG's national holiday celebtrating them/the name of the medal they received. 3rd of November is Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels Day in PNG.

So I'm in a bit of an odd state where 'I'd prefer to use the term that PNG uses to refer to that PNG group' but also 'Yeah but it's also got it's origin in a derogatory term'

[native portal]

Yeah it's........tricky, tricky is the right word

[native portal]

As long as you're making a conscious, informed choice I think you're good

[echo marten]

Yeah. It's a complex term and I'm not 100% happy with it but...I also feel like the white guy going 'I can't call this group the thing their own government calls them' would be making a judgement call I'm not qualified to make.

if that remotely makes sense?

[native portal]

Yeah no that totally tracks

I just saw it and was like 'I wonder...'

Also I was cackling during Test Cricketer btw

[echo marten]

Luckily 'tension around things being racist as fuck' is a bit of a theme with Fulda Rift Australia. XD

Gamma Surveyor
Union - Australia (Free World Forces)

One of the big problems that the Mining Industry often has is infestations. You want to set yourself up a mine or you want to do a nuclear test and the local area is ‘Inhabited’ or ‘Indigenous Heritage’, what do you do? Well, it would be expensive and slow to go through the courts, so you’ve got to get creative and call in the Surveyors. People are much more willing to give up their land once you’ve poisoned the groundwater for generations and their crops are developing strange growths!

Things we actually did to aboriginal australian land

[native portal]

Y e p that is some premium dark comedy

[echo marten]

All the Aussie Radiation weapons are named after Nuclear Tests we did on aboriginal sites. I am not subtle.

[native portal]

Gas effect - Death

Yep that tracks

[echo marten]

Kinda needed to be stated as all the existing gas effects in the game are stuff like tear gas or CIA halucinogens.

It's fun writing stuff up because the 60s is just this time of complete military nonsense in what a lot of countries were trying in real life, let alone a weird game.

Like Australia tried mounting a minigun on their APCs.

[ocean holly]

I mean

Why not

[echo marten]

The reason why not turned out to be 'you can't aim this thing worth a damn on a tank'. XD

The field report from vietnam was basicly 'we're more scared of this than the enemy, please stop'

Other Real Cold War Things: One of our transports could only fire left.

[crisp edge]

hey! we still use the M163 in the US

[echo marten]

6 x 6 International F1 Truck
With the fleet of M113s owned by Australia mostly in workshops to see how many more types of turrets the engineers can attach, transporting troops falls heavily to medium trucks. Rugged and durable, they bring all you’d want in a transport. It holds things and it moves. Grumbling drivers demanding the addition of ‘not die’ have also resulted in the average F1 getting a mount for an M60 welded to the passenger side door, allowing them to live out their WWI fighter pilot dreams of circling people counterclockwise because you’ve only got a gun on the left side.

[native portal]

I noticed the milion m113 turret variant ref also

[crisp edge]

international harvester mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[echo marten]

This also lets me legitimately list 'L1A1 Bitch' as a special weapon option becuase...again, that's the real name for it. A field mod soldiers made for the L1A1 that made it full auto and tended to dislocate your own shoulder.

The cold war is silly and very little of this is even stuff I had to invent

Though I think I'm most pleased with what I wrote for the SASR.

SASR Sabre Patrol
ADF -  Australia (FWF)
Australia's foremost special forces, the Special Air Services test carefully for moral fibre, intelligence and decency. If a candidate shows any of the three, they are immediately rejected. Specialists in wetwork (murder), wetwork (swimming) and wetwork (Getting pissed), the SASR are feared by anyone with common sense and most without. In contrast with most infantry wanting to do their job and get out, the SASR relish this work and keep ‘kill boards’ as part of a competition of which of them can destroy the most human lives.

SASR Captain
ADF -  Australia (FWF)
To rise in the ranks of the SASR requires a level of rat-bastard cunning that eludes many violent thugs, the ability to not only commit the most heinous of offenses without blinking but to have the knowledge to know how to conceal it from journalists. There is not a single SASR officer who doesn’t know where he’s going when he dies, it’s just a matter of how many screaming souls he can send to herald his arrival.

[native portal]

This is straight fire and you are a comedic genius

I would gleefully read this 'voice' all day

[echo marten]

The Captain is fun as he's one of the 'weird' models. In that he goes from 'normal horrible war criminal' of the SASR to 'This guy is a Slasher Villain'

He's got a big jump pack-style move he can do when someone has paniced or run away

As it is a Weird Cold War game. Some of the things get a bit weirder than reality was, by a small amount.

[left onyx]

I do wish I had worked more on my France stuff for Fulda Rift but also motivation is hard when the community is real quiet RN

[tepid steeple]

My laptop dying like completely killed my productivity 😅

[orchid leaf]

Looking for ideas for faction design
I have two factions for my game rn
I have a close range armored faction and I have a stealthy magic-heavy faction
But I’m trying to fit in a third, and am not sure what role they can fill

[clear shadow]

What's the game about?

[ocean holly]

Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

Space Mongols

Hit and fade sorta deal

[tepid steeple]

Speed is good

Recursion (like necromancers + zombies, or engineers + drones) can be fun

Highly synergy focused factions where they have relatively static positioning as a result

[orchid leaf]

Cold War spec ops but with magic

Sockhead99 ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) What's the game about?

Speed is good yeah

Fount of Niche Crowledge(💙💍🦢) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[clear shadow]

Yeah all the above are good

Maybe a paratrooper/dynamic entry based faction

Has exclusive access to portal magic or something

[orchid leaf]

Ooh yeah

They have the option to enter the field late and out of their deployment zone, but with a “parachute” counter that stops them from acting the next turn

[clear shadow]

Oooooooo

Kinda like mtg

[orchid leaf]

And they’re at high elevation so can be fired at by any unit

[clear shadow]

Yeah yeah

Big downsides but can appear nearly anywhere

[signal birch]

Entering "forward deployed" but with some scatter seems rather appropriate for paratroopers, deploying during active combat seems risky for "normal" paratroops, but could be something magic could help with?

[compact leaf]

I'm late, but one I like adding is a "work together" synergy faction.
Ex: One I'm working on right now is vehicles that can move when an infantry unit activates next to them, and carry them along before they hop off to do the rest of their turn.

Given there's magic, one way to do this is just doing undead (little dudes make corpse piles that can be eaten up to buff bigger units or something idk), but you can also go the disciplined military route and have guys that are really focused on having different officers around them for buffs

[orchid leaf]

Like all these suggestions yeah

Part of me wants to be silly and give them like
A jeep

[compact leaf]

Do ittt

Carrrr

Actually
What if
Tractor?

[tepid steeple]

Jeeps/technical type things are spec opsy

[compact leaf]

Mhmmm
Depends on the vibe you'd like

The Hilux VS Humvee kinda deal

[orchid leaf]

Hmmm
Jeep (Speed) plus some sort of synergy mechanic… yesss

[orchid leaf]

Oh yeah uh
Looking for testers for this game again since my usual ones are busy when I’m not and vice versa

Elizabeth (Meowstrid) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Cold War spec ops but with magic 📎

It’s hex based, be warned

Got like
A week

[clear shadow]

Yeah sure sounds neat

[tawny mountain]

\Mind if we friend you? This is the main account

[clear shadow]

Sure

[tawny sandal]

Any chance anyone knows of a 15mm M50 Ontos STL? I’ve always kinda loved that stupid thing, but there aren’t many models of it

I should say preferably freely available but I know how that can be a crapshoot

[celest root]

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-m50-ontos-106-mm-light-armored-anti-tank-vehicle-usa-us-army-cold-war-america-era-iron-curtain-warfare-crisis-conflict-295151

seen this one?

- to 10mm : x35%
- to 15mm : x56%
- to 20mm : x78%
- to 25mm : x64%

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/m50-ontos

this one's free but scaling's up to you

[orchid leaf]

Kinda weird question
I’ve finished up one project and am in the heavy testing phase of another, so now I feel like making a game for me specifically
So uh
How would you go about translating shonen or dark three seinen style fights into wargame form?

[crude lodge]

shonen is power rangers style right?

[orchid leaf]

That’s tokusatsu

kung_fu1015 ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) shonen is power rangers style right?

Shonen is dragon ball, one piece, Naruto

[crude lodge]

well if we are talking one piece

give characters a set of powers that dont grant active abilities, but heavily shape the playstyle

[sudden halo]

That's a really tough one. Lends itself a little more to RPGs.

[crude lodge]

maybe smth that has characters frequntly cause terrain damage in the course of their attacks, so you can track their power

[sudden halo]

Physical location doesn't matter too much for shonen fights, so I think you make a board with zones instead of traditional measure+move or grid.

Id probably make it more about some type of resource exchange mechanic. Some number of tokens that get shifted between attacking, defending, and special powers, that get removed from pool and set aside when you take damage.

And have triggers that bring them back into the pool representing powering up at plot appropriate moments (teammate going down, reaching critical health, etc) maybe dependent on the character.

For the big powers, transformations, domain expansion etc, make them take a whole turn to activate but they're uninterruptible (normally at least). Basically putting a brief pause on the fight where opponent gets a turn in exchange to take a breather, reposition, and recover before the big power shakes things up.

Just spitballing a bit, it's an interesting problem to solve.

[tepid steeple]

Might be worth looking at star wars shatterpoint/marvel crisis protocol(?)

It has an interesting fight system

[next pilot]

just finished a demo game of malediction, fun and very much a game of mtg but with miniatures instead of creatures. I was thundersteps and my brother was Vonrendal, not red versus not black. My guys were very fast and aggressive and grabed one objective (complete with gaining a magic item) and forced him to contest the one closer to him. End score was 26/20. It's very rocket tag-y, even tanky units can go down in a single activation to an unique unit with buffs. My brother found the starter decks to be a big unbalanced though, part of the rules is that you discard a card to take the initiative and highest goes first, but his deck was almost all small cheap cards while mine had a strong mix (although all my medium cost elite cards were discarded instead of used) so I was able to take and hold the intiative for the whole game

[orchid leaf]

I like these solutions mhm

Wren (Tsusie, She/They) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Just spitballing a bit, it's an interesting problem to solve.

[next pilot]

Shonen style fights are hard since they’re very flashy and mobile while tabletop games are inherently grounded, as in on the ground. Not to mention how important body blocking and tar pits are

[orchid leaf]

Body blocking? Tar pits?

[weary cradle]

firstly i would start by breaking down what exactly u mean by that

what are the qualities of the shonen fight scene that ur tryna turn into an interactive experience

[orchid leaf]

Hm
I guess there’s a few angles that appeal to me
There’s obviously the “technique discovery” that’s prevalent in like
HxH

[weary cradle]

as in discovering a secret technique in the middle of a fight?

[orchid leaf]

But the real part I want is the uh
I can’t think of the word but I guess the fight that displays this best is Gojo vs Rope Guy

Impact? Velocity?

And I feel these almost run counter to each other?

Like technique discovery shonens usually feel static, abilities are more likely to be trap-like or defensive

[weary cradle]

ud definitely want environmental breakables & constant forced movement then

[orchid leaf]

Mhm!

I was thinking maybe

Hex grid, but a big one?

[weary cradle]

in which case yea marvel crisis protocol is a good shout for the former at least

[weary cradle]

see id lose the grid itself

namely bc wargames dont even have grids normally lol

[orchid leaf]

I just want it for terrain abstraction

Ehhhh

gunkGobbo ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) namely bc wargames dont even have grids normally lol

we are #1 grid minis game supporter

[weary cradle]

well the other thing is that by using grids u make movement more precise

[orchid leaf]

Mhm

[weary cradle]

which is imo the opposite for velocity

[orchid leaf]

Yeah I think it’d hurt the feel a chunk
But I do think it lets me do stuff like fights spanning city blocks much more effectively

It’s sleepy time in America but will continue this convo tomorrow

[weary cradle]

i think if ur going that big, id just do zones

with binary relational positioning (ie close/far) for ppl in the same zones

[next pilot]

Tar pits are units extremely hard to kill for their cost, whether that be cheap fodder or elites, who serve to bog down and draw enemy fire or engage important targets while the others can perform objectives more freely. Body blocking and screening are placing things in a way that prevents enemies from moving properly

[weary cradle]

either that or abstract inch/cm-measurement to equal to like, city blocks

[next pilot]

Crisis protocol has systems for this

[weary cradle]

this might actually get u the bounding movement of shonen fights

[next pilot]

Need to finish my mcp minis

[next pilot]

Maybe an upgrade system? You can bring a small pool of upgrades and give some of them to units as the game progresses

[modern snow]

It exists and is called Unmatched. 😛

(seriously though my two recommendations for a starting point for a "battle of legends" style game would be Unmatched and Phantom Dust)

[tepid steeple]

Technique discovery says deck of cards to me

[modern snow]

Almost like deck building on the fly or something 🤔

[weary cradle]

yea my thinking was like a randomizer for getting powers mid-fight

mb specified per faction/unit category

ideally allowing for thematic coherence for the sort of techniques a unit could potentially unlock

[twin mountain]

See my game gunmetal sonata

[orchid leaf]

I have that game yeah I don’t think it fits the concept well unfortunately

𝖈𝖔𝖘𝖚 ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) (seriously though my two recommendations for a starting point for a "battle of legends" style game w…

It’s very fun tho

[orchid leaf]

Winged (she/her) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) See my game gunmetal sonata

[potent wyvern]

https://bsky.app/profile/fish0nland.bsky.social/post/3mgkxernnpk2p

Salt (@fish0nland.bsky.social)

Get ready for Armageddon Mezzanites

Interested in playing @orbitaldropkick.bsky.social ’s skirmish wargame Maleghast? Well you are in luck, because on March 14 i will be running an online casual tournament from to 2pm to 10 pm EST. You can find everything you need to know in the link down below.

-# MAGNAGOTHICA MALEGHAST: ARMAGEDDON
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Bluesky · Mar 8, 2026, 6:19 PM

Sharing this here as well

Incase anyone is interested

[solemn steeple]

Here to glaze CARNIVORE

[twin mountain]

Oh shit that's dope

[solemn steeple]

CARNIVORE?

[twin mountain]

Oh sorry I was talking about the maleghast tourney

[potent wyvern]

Hmm

Is there anywhere else thats a good place to share this?

[orchid leaf]

Besides #maleghast-general and #maleghast-game-recruiting I’d reccomend that one channel that’s just Cain and maleghast

Salt (Gargathinking) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Is there anywhere else thats a good place to share this?

chasm I think

[potent wyvern]

I did so lol

Im already in that server

Ive only gotten 6 extrants so far so im looking to see if i can pull people from anywhere else

[orchid leaf]

Unfortunately I’ve never played and don’t have 7$ of change lying around

[native portal]

6 is enough to do round robin

[potent wyvern]

The format is swiss not round robin

[potent wyvern]

And its not like i cant run a casual swiss tourney with 6 six

I just wanna see if i can get anymore folks in on the action

[orchid leaf]

This looks very fun!

Winged (she/her) ↩️

[(click to see attachment)](#1161730220164911187 message)

[sudden halo]

That looks extremely cool.

Also, the components look great and potentially very useable to design other games with.

[next pilot]

Ordered the primal blood starter

[tawny sandal]

I know you must mean a starter set, but something about the way you said that made me momentarily envision you meaning that as if you were ordering a sourdough starter but for blood magic

[next pilot]

Nah, it’s for malediction

[twin mountain]

streaming LA

[distant roost]

How'd the match go? Was working the phones and couldn't catch the stream

[twin mountain]

ran a dumb list and got punished for it

it was fun

[crude lodge]

not 100% sure how I won lol

I wasnt running much of a coherent strat

[distant roost]

For the Ember: Obsidian Protocol enjoyers, the same dev that made the fan list builder just made a dice simulator that plays nice on mobile so you can theory craft practically while looking plausibly productive as well as game effectively IRL without a dice pack

[celest root]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLlFqBdilco

youtube is trying to tell me something

[potent wyvern]

I would say this was a resounding success

[celest root]

Good work!!

[sand sonnet]

Anyone going to Adepticon next week? Anything folks are specifically excited for there?

[sudden halo]

I am!

Mostly I'm just excited to meet up with out of town friends see lots of people I met last year, but I am always excited to see whats new in the vendor area.

Vendor wise mostly interested in the StarCraft game if archon has a presence. I also saw the Polyversal people have a few new games in the event lineup.

Events wise Im trying the jets expansion for Blood Red Skies one day and someone homebrew modern skirmish a different day.

And the big thing is the 2v2 infinity tournament. Skipping the satellite this year - I play a lot of competitive events and I wanted to get more out of the con in general.

@modern snow will be holding it down at the BSS booth but several of us are bringing mobile arms stuff for evening open play games, in addition to other things. Im bringing some 15mm to test a skirmish conversion of Twilight:2000 4e and probably some spaceships for silent death.

[modern snow]

Y'all better come over and see me at the BSS booth

😤

[ocean holly]

If you pay for my leave and the plane tickets, sure

[modern snow]

maaaaaaaaan that'd be the dream

[sand sonnet]

Planning on it. Mobile Arms is probably the only game I will put on the table around my running Shatterpoint.

[twin mountain]

You guys have funnn

I really can't visit America ever

[compact leaf]

Biggest of my life

[sudden halo]

If I wasnt already here I wouldn't either.

[autumn sun]

Yeah I don't want to visit America and I live in it.

[tepid steeple]

🫂

[sand sonnet]

If anyone wants a game of Mobile Arms one of the evenings feel free to reach out.

[next pilot]

had a friend who was in ny and loving it; then 2024 happened and they wanted to leave as soon as uni was over

[orchid leaf]

are there any 1/35th wargames out there?

[celest root]

Battleready, Zone Alfa, Inquisitor...

[sudden halo]

First time I've heard zona Alfa listed as 1/35 but it totally works.

[celest root]

... i admit it's weasle words

is Z.A for 1/35? ...no.

because it has no size as long as it's consistent

[native portal]

I think that's gonna be the case for a bunch yeah

I don't know any games in that scale but a lot or even most wargames are scale agnostic

[sand sonnet]

Look at the cool thing @modern snow is bringing to Adepticon :

[modern snow]

Obligatory A Billion Suns namedrop

[celest root]

Fantastico

Wish i could grab one

[orchid leaf]

Yeah I’m thinking like
Is there anything tailored to that scale moreso

[supple shale]

There’s a pretty small selection of 54mm skirmish games out there, but despite its popularity as a scale I cannot name a single 1:35 game of any kind

[celest root]

battleready and Inquisitor specifically i think

yeah there's not a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBpZey-eM0w

[sudden halo]

I feel like there's a cowboy game in 54mm but I couldn't tell you what.

Inquisitor is the only one I know for sure.

[sand sonnet]

What scale would the wack ass Shadowrun Action Figure clix game count as?

[supple shale]

How tall are the minis?

[sand sonnet]

They’re action figures? Like 7-8 inches tall.

[supple shale]

Should scale out to about 1:10, based on that size.

[modern snow]

Holy heck I forgot about that

[sand sonnet]

You were probably correct to.

[celest root]

never forget

[modern snow]

much to my chagrin

[potent wyvern]

Do yall know of campaign systems with random event tables?

[tawny sandal]

No End in Sight has a whole campaign system made up of random events, though I’ve not tried it in practice

[orchid leaf]

I’m working on a ~15mm scale game and want to include artillery as off-table assets, and I’m trying to figure out counter-battery fire. Any ideas or examples that do it well?

[native portal]

Fistful of Tows uses counter battery as one of the consequences of a bad call in roll

Alternatively if you're not considering like, other Artillery at the lines

you could make a firing off-table artillery piece targetable by anything else off table with the same caliber or more

[orchid leaf]

Ok this is interesting

Suki ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Fistful of Tows uses counter battery as one of the consequences of a bad call in roll

[tawny sandal]

FFoT is definitely neat

The paradrop rules are hilarious

[potent wyvern]

Any got more examples?

[crisp edge]

t2k has lots of tables for what's happening

[potent wyvern]

Whaddat

[crisp edge]

oh wait no that's more ttrpg scale
ffot is a good shout but i can't think of many good wargame campaign systems
some of the 40k crusade rulesets are neat

[potent wyvern]

Dude i have no idea what those acronyms are

[clear shadow]

T2k - twilight 2000
Ffot - fistful of tows
-# in case you haven't already looked them up

Also I thiiiiiiink 5 parsecs from home uses a bunch of tables but I don't really know much about it

[native portal]

No end in sight has campaign random events

[potent wyvern]

Do yall have any examples from more scifi/fantasy examples?

[sudden halo]

The infinity mercenaries community ruleset has random events between combats.

Also @modern snow 's WIP campaign system for Mobile Arms has something similar.

[potent wyvern]

Do you have a link to these?

[tepid steeple]

Oh yeah I dont think I messaged about it cause it left me wiped but I played bakunin at our spring event ^^ there was like 12 people even with a handful of no shows which is cool

[compact leaf]

I will say
Prepare for kinda terrible rulebook layout

[tepid steeple]

I came like 9th. Lost to a tunguska who came like second, won against kestrel but it was a really new player, lost to hassassins 😅

[compact leaf]

Boop
https://mercenaries.bss.design/

Here's everything

[compact leaf]

Hell yeah
Our spring event was cancelled due to no attendance :(

[tepid steeple]

:((((

That sucks

[compact leaf]

Also doesn't help that there was a bigger one in Stratford literally the next day

We suspect that's where everyone went

But
Hopefully next time!

[tepid steeple]

Ah yeah

[compact leaf]

We're looking at attending whatever warcrow tournament happens nearby next, at least

Patiently awaiting mounted knights so we have to rework all our lists to fit them

MANDATORY HORSE

[tepid steeple]

We have a warcrow next month. I need to catch up on the releases but my lgs hasnt been shelving them 😅

Just gonna order to collect next time I make it in but car is being shitty

[compact leaf]

Aw man yours too? :(((

Our LGS doesn't stock infinity anymore so we've gotta do special orders all the time

But warcrow pre orders go up every once in a while

[tepid steeple]

Ooof

Ummm

But yeah I think I had a kinda bad list in retrospect and I had zero energy that whole week so getting through three games is a good enough result haha

And they were all fun

Next infinity event will be ukge which thankfully tickets finally went up forrr

Idk if missions are out

[sand sonnet]

My FLGS carries a lot of CB and will ship. Feel free to bug me for info if your local places aren’t able to order it or anything.

[potent wyvern]

Is there also a preview to this?

[sudden halo]

I think so? If not now than soon. I'll take a look or pester Corey about it this week when i see him. rn im sure he's getting packed up or wrappign up work to get ready for adepticon

[modern snow]

not publicly but it's open to the Mobile Arms playtesting group (it's part of the upcoming revised core rulebook)

[supple shale]

No Stars in Sight has a scifi-flavored version of No End in Sight’s scenario and campaign systems

[potent wyvern]

ty all

[celest root]

https://worldchampgameco.itch.io/streets

https://worldchampgameco.itch.io/chord

I present to you two games

one more traditional and one way more abstract (keyboard wargame)

[compact leaf]

CB adepticon tomorrow.. we pray for updated warcrow PDF

We did also find out that's it's basically going to bring the game to a "1.75 edition"

More changes than we thought are taking place

[sand sonnet]

I should try to catch it in person.

[compact leaf]

Ooh, you're gonna be there?

That'd be neat, you may be able to catch stuff we cannot

[sand sonnet]

I don’t have plans yet but I’m at Adepticon so we’ll see what happens.

[sand sonnet]

Cool pre-colored terrain for Infinity in the Adepticon setups.

[sudden halo]

Seeing the Microartstudio terrain in person is always weird

It's all scanned into TTS so to me it's digital terrain.

[compact leaf]

Agh..
I've always wanted to order some in but they don't ship here 😭

That's such a nice table..

[sudden halo]

It really is. I like it better than the Warsenal stuff.

I have the objective room for that set that I haven't built yet. Got it as my prize from the satellite last year

[sand sonnet]

And also the goofier table:

[clear shadow]

That's awesome

Did you get to see how the slides work?

[tawny sandal]

Whacky water slide fun park 😌

[sand sonnet]

Nope. Will have to look at it later

[tepid steeple]

I love this

[autumn sun]

https://www.ignitioncoregames.com/ Oh so Relic Knights is back, I guess

[sand sonnet]

Yeah has been for a bit.

It’s very much still Relic Knghts for good or for ill from what I could tell.

Ignition Core was supposed to have Ember:Obsidian Protocol but they didn’t get stock in time.

[autumn sun]

I only know about this because apparently they have a booth at Adepticon.

[sand sonnet]

Yup! With their mecha chibi game and something called “Magical Girl Assault”

[sudden halo]

Yeah, they've toned it down some, but not much. From what I've seen they have two versions of some of the models now, one that's the anime pinup style and one that's going for more "cool" appeal instead

[next pilot]

Chibi minis aren’t my thing

[compact leaf]

Welp
Warcrow rules update in April
They're uhh
Completely redoing the rulebook, and changing lots of rules and cards apparently

Here is your mandatory OSS rework art

It's uhhh..
I'm struggling to form an opinion..

[echo marten]

Asuras are consistntly my favorite unit in the game but...I dunno. Not 100% sure on the art there. I like the implanted blade and the unit name on the side is just silly enough to move back into great but the bodysuit looks a bit undetailed save for the two lego brick tits.

I feel like it needed at the very least more of a pattern on the bodysuit and either 'no armour at all' or 'actual armour'.

It's an awkward 'no armour but pauldrons' area right now

Which is the uncanny valley of armour

If I'm remotely coherant?

[orchid leaf]

I was reading the pauldrons as big sleeves but looking closer they have hard edges which I don’t like

[compact leaf]

Well
I have more art for you.
One moment

[crisp edge]

wow that's uhhhh

[compact leaf]

Anyways
OSS rework and Corregidor rework

[compact leaf]

Yeah, right?

[weary cradle]

the tummy-lights is crazy

[crisp edge]

it's definitely not good

[echo marten]

Yeah, I stand by'it either needs more or less armour'.

[weary cradle]

would go hard as fuck as a tattoo

but thas crazy

[crisp edge]

firmly Just Stab Me Now

[compact leaf]

I pray the model is good

[echo marten]

Also it feels a bit too...lean.

https://human-sphere.com/images/7/76/Asura_2.jpg

The old Asura art wasn't super bulky but it felt less lean

[crisp edge]

oh that's loads better

[weary cradle]

that is a vaguely average-bodied woman yeag

[echo marten]

The pauldrons were also not huge and looked just like 'normal parts of the bodysuit'

This is sorta the 'less armour' idea for an Asura imo. The new one adds just enough armour to make it clear it has no actual armour

Which is awkard

[weary cradle]

i also like the long hair as opposed to the fuckass bob

[crisp edge]

legendary glowdown

[weary cradle]

darkdown

[echo marten]

To give the new one a hair of credit - I don't hate the idea of the mantis blade instead of a carried sword.

But that's then only change I'm a fan of

[crisp edge]

mantis blade is neat but they made the arms look so baaaad and they used to look good

[echo marten]

I also think the 'making the frame a fair bit leaner' doesn't work super well for a mantis blade that big.

[weary cradle]

i think the everything else makes her look even smaller than w/o

[compact leaf]

We must pray that the model is good..

The rest of the OSS will probably be pretty solid, at least

She really does not need pauldrons that big though.. tis strange..

[crisp edge]

stupid oversized pauldrons that look bad? many such cases

[sudden halo]

I kind of like it. It keeps the skin tight plain suit vibe of the original but makes it less cheesecake.

The shoulders are a miss though

[crisp edge]

sorry did you say less cheesecake

[weary cradle]

the cone-boobs say otherwise

i rly dont know why thats such a common scifi lady armor motif

like i assume it started in wargames w/ 40k but whered 40k get it

[crisp edge]

she has individual boob cones yeah lmfao

[sudden halo]

The original had nipples sculpted on the bodysuit

It being distinct pieces means at least theyre not doing that.

[weary cradle]

okay that Is wild

lookin at the actual model, the white does make her look extremely naked

[crisp edge]

do infinity models come painted

[sand sonnet]

Nope.

[sudden halo]

Nah, they're unassembled white metal

Now sometimes thermoplastic of one of two types for larger stuff

[sand sonnet]

Are they still doing some siocast?

[sudden halo]

They haven't done any new ones recently I'm aware of but there's a lot of siocast releases that they haven't changed over to unicool.

[compact leaf]

In defense of their sio, they've gotten way better with the formula
Metal is still better but..
It's not as rough as it used to be

But anyways
Uhh
I think the new Asura is probably just a side grade to the old one. Unless the model is absolutely amazing.

[compact leaf]

Mmmm

New Miranda..

Kinda really dig this, actually

[sudden halo]

I really like that she feels like she's grown with the timeline.

Went from the femme fatale type to a more refined older killer mercenary lady

[tepid steeple]

New miranda is cool

New asura is…. Yeah…

I mean part of the whole point of the asura is that shes among the toughest units in the game but is just a cyborg person. Shes basically major kusanagi

Corregidor is super weird when crimson stone was only like two operations ago

Like I thought doing bakunin again would be weird but you could at least focus on riot grrls etc but yeah. CB is so inscrutable

[echo marten]

See, I kinda feel like a really fun Asura Model that could be released as an alternate some time?

Give her only one arm and just this massive ragged chunk of her torso missing, showing off metal like she's the terminator.

So you've got her having just gotten fucking railgunned or something and still going

[tepid steeple]

That would be awesome

[tawny sandal]

I do always love a fucked up cyborg

Especially fucked up in the “oh, so that’s not like, skin, that’s just a skin-like layer over robo-gizmos and you don’t care you took a mag of 7.62 to the face” sense

[compact leaf]

Ookay, here we go

Still more!

Ookay all done

[tepid steeple]

I like the new riot grrl models, kinda expected a redesign but dont mind theyll fit the existing ones

[compact leaf]

I'm gonna go through the announcements and get some TLDRs together..

[tepid steeple]

Mounted harvesters are coool

[compact leaf]

Knights are... Exactly what we thought they'd look like

Pierre looks like he's got a tinged up eye scar

[tepid steeple]

Oh yeah kipleacht looks amazing

[compact leaf]

It's channels the rules of the thing much better than the WCA one imo

This has also been confirmation that we're probably gonna get sculpts for generic versions of the named characters too

Which is nice

[tepid steeple]

Oh wild

Oh yeah like this generic gunnery corporal

Very interesting

Omg minigun dorf!!!

Okay repeating cannon but still

And straight up switch axe from monster hunter like fully

[compact leaf]

Yeah, the veteran has an axe that can turn into

• a gun
• a 2-handed axe
• a one handed axe

Which the warriors, an entire unit, will also have

I.. do not know why the unrelenting are carrying their weapons like that

[tepid steeple]

To attac

The unrelenting have switch axe (greatsword greataxe)
And the veteran/warriors have charge blade + its also a gun? (Greataxe/sword n shield but the sword is an axe here)

[compact leaf]

Yeah that's basically it

[tepid steeple]

Really cool though haha

[compact leaf]

The unrelenting appear to have battering rams and axes and we're assuming the big trigger mechanism switches between the two

Or it's just.. there..

Someone else is speculating that pulling it triggers a rocket on the opposite end of the pole too..

[tepid steeple]

Maybe!

Not that its conclusive but the switch axe in monhun has like vials to add blasts to its attacks

Which is another thing that you operate mechanisms on it to achieve

Possible source of inspiration

[compact leaf]

Given the other main dwarf weapon is literally a charge blade... This would not surprise us

[tepid steeple]

Aaa have an event next month

No way itll be out by then 😭

[tepid steeple]

18th

[compact leaf]

Ookay
Infinity TL;DR:

• Hexadome legends out at GenCon?
• repacking old armies may become a trend if the demand for it stays
• new Miranda is event-exclusive, first available at UKGE
• New battle pack has new terrain and is OSS vs Corregidor, and will arrive at UKGE

Hhuh..
That's.. soon..

May, rather than july

[tepid steeple]

I might get a miranda 👀

[compact leaf]

Lucky..

I'll have to scramble for one on black Friday ;-;

[tepid steeple]

Yeah 😭

Still sad I missed vercana last year

[compact leaf]

I'm.. not.. introducing her to our meta in its current state would piss so many people off ;-;

[tepid steeple]

Lmao valid

Shes really pretty thoughhh

[compact leaf]

She isssss

They'll probably tone her down in the rules update, tbf

Or well
That's the hope
A few of the syennan kinda also want that

Shews in particular are... Holding too many cards with being

• exceptionally durable
• extremely hard hitting
• stupid fast

Most of the new stuff is pretty solid though?

[tepid steeple]

Mhm mhm

[orchid leaf]

Those chunky guys are very very fun

TillCounterPunch (They/Them) ↩️

[(click to see attachment)](#1161730220164911187 message)

Almost fun enough to make me want to play CA

[compact leaf]

Their profiles are wack

They're basically Posthuman proxies

[next pilot]

Those T. rex looking things are neat

[compact leaf]

Yea, those are the gunner ones

There was a melee one with the starter

[next pilot]

I think atomic mass games are doing shatterpoint and crisis protocol reveals later

[sand sonnet]

Yup in about 3 hours from this post they have their roadmap

Also have a cool shatterpoint thing:

[next pilot]

wonder what characters we'll, I'd love to get nico minoru or any of the runaways

[next pilot]

so no new characters were revealed; apparently the showed off too much at previous events

[sand sonnet]

Yeah nothing we haven’t been aware of for Shatterpoint

Expect some surprises though

Qui Gon was conspicuously absent

[next pilot]

still surprising we haven't seen dr.doom and the fantastic four

[twin mountain]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/sebastianbae.bsky.social/post/3mi7b3qznlk2m

Sebastian Bae (@sebastianbae.bsky.social)

I had the opportunity to learn about the much anticipated COMAO #wargame. The miniatures are beautiful when painted and the ability to fit aircraft with different load outs is great! But I think it misses the increased range/scale of modern air warfare. Good for commercial play.

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FxBluesky · Mar 29, 2026, 1:32 PM

[celest root]

oh very neat.

[orchid leaf]

Does anyone here play Heavy Gear?

[sudden halo]

A few of us do or at least have in the past.

Im sort of waiting on the next edition of blitz to give it another crack

[hollow slate]

I'm more familiar with the RPG

[sudden halo]

I really like the RPG, I think currently it also does the wargame better than the wargame for a few reasons.

[supple shale]

Many certified Heavy Gear freaks in the space, we love to see it

[orchid leaf]

I’m trying to figure out like
What it’s deal is from a gameplay perspective
I have blitz but I struggle to get feel

At least without playing it which is out of reach for now

[compact leaf]

Heavy gear..

We too await the next edition

[sudden halo]

It kind of feels like Infinity light? That's not really accurate at all but the way reactions work gives it some of that vibe.

[compact leaf]

Nono, it does have those vibes

[orchid leaf]

Ok that’s good cause we like infinity

[supple shale]

Yeah like it’s by no means a 1:1 fit but out of all the stuff in the skirmish space rn I think « feels kinda like Infinity » is a good foot in the door for HG

[compact leaf]

It has just enough weird rules to draw the comparison

But it's like
Purely a gamefeel thing

Maybe it's the largely similar selection for equipment across factions?

[supple shale]

Reactions being a huge part of the gameplay loop;

Managing activations especially with the save/pull mechanic coming in 4.0

Looser vibes based stuff like broadly similar model count usually?

[compact leaf]

Gamefeel is fairly similar overall kinda deal

[supple shale]

Hard thing to quantify really

[sudden halo]

For sure

But most HG players I know also play Infinity.

[orchid leaf]

Does HG have a tts mod?

[compact leaf]

It does!

I.. think?

I remember seeing loads of videos of people using a fairly robust one

[sudden halo]

Yeah, it does.

Decent 2d standees for everything and a fair amount of boards.

Saved using the little tool the infinity mod uses to save tables.

[supple shale]

Yeah HG has a pretty robust TTS scene, I see a lot of games coordinated through discord

[next pilot]

2d standees are neat, malediction uses them

Just wish more people than me bought in in my area

[sand sonnet]

It was in the swag bags for Adepticon and seems to be picking up steam.

[sand sonnet]

Anyone in here deep into Trench Crusade?

[compact leaf]

in the middle of a campaign, but not the lore (as we lack the book and confidence)

[sand sonnet]

I picked up a bit at Adepticon. Whats your read on campaign play so far?

[compact leaf]

it's.. fine?
My biggest gripe is that your patrons do nothing outside of giving you a special table gated by luck.

Beyond that, glorious deeds are just hard for some of the scenarios (but that's more of a problem with them, than the campaign itself) and reinforcing feels mandatory for the first few games if you lose literally anything important

we haven't gotten super far, but faction balance has begun to become a small concern as well (see: the sole undefeated player is also playing the most busted faction in the game)

[sand sonnet]

What faction?

Also what do you have on the field.

[compact leaf]

Heretic Naval Raiders for our undefeated fellow (great guy btw, he's not even playing them at full power on purpose because it would genuinely be awful to be on the recieving end)
and... then it's a mix of literally everything else.
But there isn't any Prussia or Papal States, and only a single IS player.

[sand sonnet]

What are you yourself playing with and how are you liking the faction?

[compact leaf]

I think it's like.. 3 Court, 2 Heretics, HNR, 2 NAs (one is me), one Eire, one Alba, and one Trench Pilgrims

NA is neat
but hooooo boy do you rely a lot on your opponent to not build the table like it's 40k

they're still a guns faction but like
1-8" range guns, not long range stuff

[sand sonnet]

Yeah it's a game that wants a very different kind of terrain.

[compact leaf]

very CQB hyperlethal trading pieces faction

[sand sonnet]

Yeah I snagged Prussians myself and they seem to lean into what NA does well.

[compact leaf]

mhm
luckily I come from infinity, so I... at least trust myself to build tables

[sand sonnet]

I need to start making some trenches.

[compact leaf]

Prussians are considered one of the best NAs

cause

yeah

they just do what NA does best, but more

you'll have a good time, just prepare for OP allegations potentially

[sand sonnet]

Yeah I hear grenades are getting hit at some point soon.

[compact leaf]

yeaha

it's probably Prussia's fault too XD

their grenade buffs are a big deal

[sand sonnet]

I just wanted plastics and that's the only option.

+4 inches of range is a lot.

[compact leaf]

yeah...

to be clear

Not judging you or anything
I hope I didn't come off that way

[sand sonnet]

Not at all.

[compact leaf]

I'm just hoping they take our feedback and don't make grenades horrible to use

[sand sonnet]

Yeah it might just be one of those, change the prussian bonus situations instead of changing how the rest of the thing works.

[compact leaf]

there are some people in my group that want more ways for turns to just end abruptly and... I don't know how to articulate how unfun that all sounds properly

the risky action system is cool

but uhhh
we do not need more things to be that way

[sand sonnet]

But it’s a choice to do it and not a weird consequence of doing a thing you need to.

Which is why it’s cool.

[compact leaf]

yea, at least that's there

[sand sonnet]

How are Fireteams working for you? Any setups you like for it?

[compact leaf]

hmmm
Naval Raiders really shouldn't have a blanket +1 to dashes is their issue, btw
given this is a game about getting to objectives quickly, it uhhh
trivializes them.

[compact leaf]

fireteams are pretty easy to set up IMO
you need a model that can put lots of blood markers on something, and then one that can pop them all on one big hit

a shock with 2 swords and one with a greatsword, both with grenades, for example

they chuck grenades, then charge in and whack stuff hopefully enough that the greatsword guy can bloodbath

for a shooting fireteam, sniper priest and HMI with the shotgun/HFT is doing well for me

NA also likes to have their other guys as setup pieces for your fireteam activations. Like a yeoman with just a shotgun to get a marker on a guy you want to bloodbath later, etc etc

just to make it easier

[sand sonnet]

What are you running on the priest?

[compact leaf]

oh, an automatic rifle. SMG works too. Anything that can make multiple attacks and let the HMI go after

[sand sonnet]

I hear pistol builds are more than just a meme.

[compact leaf]

I could probably de-fireteam them and just run an HMG too, given the HFT ignores armour and I can just dump blood markers to hope for a 9...

[compact leaf]

oh, yeah
but you need specific campaign skills to get it to work

specifically strength of samson and surgical strike, iirc

since pistols can be used as melee weapons normally. if you want to do the dual auto pistols on him, you need gunslinger, too

most people go for a grenade and 2 pistols these days to my knowledge

[sand sonnet]

Saw a lot of MG on him at Adepticon

[compact leaf]

That's one of the official sculpts, so people will run him that way to adhere to WYSIWYG

Given he doesn't have strong.. it's a bit harder to pilot

And fireteams obviously don't work out great

[sand sonnet]

There does seem to be a lot of flexibility for how to build out a warband.

[compact leaf]

For NA, yeah
Some others have some super "auto-take" kinda pieces though

But
That's a given, they're also some of the coolest models

[sand sonnet]

Artillery Witch was going to be in every warband that could take it anyway.

[compact leaf]

Deadly is a very powerful keyword

[celest root]

https://moonlessworks.itch.io/planet-shark

[twin mountain]

This is excellent thank you

[trail fulcrum]

they seem like a really good movement nonsense army

with the 1 cheeky flamethrower warrior

[hollow slate]

My friend that was into TC with me played a test game, my Court against his Naval Raiders, and he tabled me

My beloathed factions are NA in general (newb trap because I tabled my friends first attempt and turned him off Trench Crusade), St Methodius (two fucking anchorites) and Defenders of the Wall (no it's cool, I definitely wanted to play fucking minesweeper and lose a third of my units in the trench system I spent my terrain choices on)

Though I haven't really played against some factions; I haven't really seen Black Grail at all, and I haven't played against any Court lists

[echo marten]

I've not actually looked at Defenders of the Wall, what do they get?

[hollow slate]

They can mine terrain ahead of time, elite Janissaries, and gun teams

[echo marten]

That's pretty fun

[hollow slate]

I love setting up terrain that kills my units

It's my favorite

It's definitely never completely turned me off of playing against new people

But Defenders basically doubles down on the "we're the annoying shooty faction" thing that IS has going

They can get a giant cannon emplacement and an item that slows down chargers as well

[compact leaf]

Terrain setup is a big deal for TC

Cause uhh

Gun factions just get to play the game with board-wide fire superiority for the entire game if you're not careful

On the flipside, you still need to give them something to do, lest they have no way of dealing with a melee fighter until it arrives in their face

[hollow slate]

This was during the beta when terrain choice was alternating instead of... the way it is now, I don't know if they changed it

[compact leaf]

It's just one person setting up the entire board now iirc

Which..
I also don't like

[hollow slate]

Ah, I was wondering if they had fixed that

And IIRC it's still a rolloff to see who gets to choose the side they begin on

[hollow slate]

If it was "one person builds, other person chooses where" I feel it would be a lot more fair

[tepid steeple]

Thats literally pie theory yeah

Though it is vulnerable to skill gaps

[hollow slate]

Definitely, but I hate that a player has a 25% chance stack the field to their advantage now

Like, if my opponent is a fucking defenders list and gets that, I'm scooping immediately, fuck that

[deep mirage]

Its funny that mining terrain is an issue because I'm still out here running fidai (Help it hurts) and sappers are like, Just awful for em.

[hollow slate]

If every faction had a mine disarmer maybe I'd be less knee-jerky against Defenders

... I guess they're supposed to steer fodder into mines first, ig

[echo marten]

Court: "Oh man, my expendable guys get Free Blood Counters? How terrible!"

[signal birch]

Yeah Court would probably view that as a positive.

[hollow slate]

If only, in my experience they usually get outright kills

[hollow slate]

I need to catch up on the release rules

[compact leaf]

Mines just need to be different imo. Make them a marker you can place down, like that one scenario does.

[fallen rune]

I fuckin knew it

I remember reading up on the factions a while ago and thinking “damn these guys sound great”

“All these benefits and I just can’t take the funny wolf?”

[compact leaf]

Yeaaaahhh

They just
Get to have all of that for no extra cost on any of their guys

[hollow slate]

Arent they also limited in taking Anointed?

[compact leaf]

That doesn't really hurt them as much as it should, because of unlimited SMGs on guys that can shoot them just as well as anointed

[sand sonnet]

Probably just need a cost on the dash like Prussians.

[compact leaf]

Anointed are basically just heavy weapon carriers, and HNR only really need like.. 1-2 of those

[compact leaf]

Yeah, it really should be like that.
Prussia is kinda how I'd prefer their SMGs were balanced too,
Like..
Automatic weapons need a limit, or at least need to be expensive
And HNR get around both of those by having the cheapest ones in the game and being able to have as many as they'd like

Afaik, they're like
The only faction that does this, and it's earned them a lot of ire from the community on top of everything else

[next pilot]

Theres was an old wargame about demons fighting over souls in hell I remember seeing but I can’t remember the name

[next pilot]

I fobt remember seeing those other factions in the trench crusade book

[potent wyvern]

Reign in Hell?

[next pilot]

Dont

No it was idols of torment

[signal birch]

Regarding TC prussia, I would be mote concerned over their tank-splitters than their smgs. But that is just theorycrafting from my end.

[compact leaf]

It's not too bad, to be honest
Armor helps a lot against it, and it doesn't work on unarmored stuff iirc

They did have to stop Dragonslayer from working with it though

That combo was very very silly

Still
It is rather strong

[signal birch]

In addition to the rather extreme trait, it still has +1 dice and is very cheap for what it does. I think the deadly weapons are still a bit more deadly, but I haven't run the math.

And prussia has rather few models that are good at ranged attacks.

[sand sonnet]

Your leader and a singular Sniper Priest or MHI.

You're limited to 2 Tank-Splitters as well so you still have to be careful with them.

[compact leaf]

Mhmm

Cumbersome too, so no shields or dual-wielding

[sand sonnet]

Thoughts on this as a starting warband? https://trench-companion.com/warband/detail/249674

[compact leaf]

You can probably swap out some of the incendiary grenades for frag grenades to cover for guys without helmets that are immune to fire (which is going to be a surprisingly large amount of models, you'll find), but this looks totally useable otherwise

Helmets on shocks is probably unnecessary too, if you feel like you can put the savings towards something better

[signal birch]

I assume it is for a good reason, but I am a still a bit sad that they don't allow one to one hand ranged weapons with strong.

[compact leaf]

Guy with loads of guns sounds cool on paper, dunno if it's something you'd actually want

We have someone seeing success with a machine gun + halberd gun Yuzbazi captain though

[signal birch]

I was thinking more siege jezzail + shield. But mg+halberd gun looks a bit interesting.

[trail fulcrum]

Inflitrating annointed with flamethrower funny

[compact leaf]

Trueeee

Though...

I have something similar and it has.. dubious value..
Considering this is what my roster has for permanently dead campaign units

[signal birch]

They may be dead, but as long as they did their part?

[echo marten]

If the yeoman in front of you dies, pick up his flamethrower and continue on.

[compact leaf]

This is the way

[compact leaf]

Weirdly enough, these have been my distraction carnifexes

I still have like 3 in my list

They infiltrate and sit on an objective, occasionally popping out to light someone on fire
It works well

[weary cradle]

me & the boys abt to kick up the swing riots

[trail fulcrum]

Annointed with flamethrower inflitrating means my opponent has to answer an annointef

Immediately

Hahahaha

[signal birch]

I can imagine, it would probably be pretty distracting for me too. I have seen people get plenty of distracted by machine guns. Though that isn't quite the same. 🙂

[compact leaf]

This is true
HFT good

[next pilot]

what did you lose to build the list for trench crusade?

oh huh, didn't realize trech crusade shotguns were more irl shotguns, high accuracy low armor penetration

[tawny sandal]

I will grumble that you still need to aim with a shotgun, they do have spread but it also is less than you might think, especially at close range

But that’s just me as a gun-knower doing grumbles

[next pilot]

+1 accuracy in exchange for -1 for armor penetration is a better representation than the usual close range point blank weapon

[tawny sandal]

Yeah it’s not terrible, especially for a quicker-moving tabletop game

I like how in No End in Sight they have range limits for SMGs and shotguns by having them only use Shock dice (the suppression mechanic) past a certain range

[next pilot]

smgs are much more the irl close range weapon, low weight is more mobile and high rof and usually deployed in situations where you don't need the long range most firefights occur at

[tawny sandal]

SMGs have a slightly longer effective range than shotguns but they’re about the same irl

And both have gone by the wayside now that body armor is a common thing (and people realized “hey wait what if we just make out rifles short”)

[tepid steeple]

and nato (america) got off their ass about intermediate cartridges

[tawny sandal]

This has me thinking of the broader thing in mini wargaming that doing range “realistically” either means doing very small scale, no actual upper limit on range and just bonuses for close-in, or you make everybody have half the velocity on their rounds lol

[next pilot]

intermediate cartridges?

[compact leaf]

Trench companion, it's a webapp.

[tepid steeple]

rifles used full power cartridges which sucked to use full auto and took up a lot of space, smgs used pistol cartridges which were nice to use but lacked power. some people had the bright idea to get something in between

[compact leaf]

Allows you to link your warband to a campaign too, which is pretty cool

[tepid steeple]

and pretty much everyone agreed about that but when nato were first standardising on a cartridge, the us lobbied for it to be a full power one

[compact leaf]

Bullet lore :0

[next pilot]

the rifle is the spear of modern warfare, practical and effective but media likes to diversify for visual and gameplay reasons

[tepid steeple]

the thing I found with thinking about making a gun game is range has a big effect on power in a way most games don't really do

and armour effectiveness depends heavily on range

[sand sonnet]

Popping off the helmets and downgrading grenades gets me another bolt-action Yeoman. So appreciate that callout.

[compact leaf]

You usually wanna keep the guys that are gonna be trading up cheap so you can buy them again, helps in the long run.
Totally valid to deck out your important stuff though, there's just.. less of those in NA

[sand sonnet]

I think I just overestimated how dangerous Shrapnel would be.

[compact leaf]

It's pretty mean when NA wields it, tbf

They love any way of putting extra markers on stuff

[sand sonnet]

Plus they've got all the pickelhaubes on the models.

[signal birch]

Frag + charge + NA fireteam. It is mean, but mostly aginst more durable models.

Against cheap stuff shrapnel is only a minor advantage.

[orchid leaf]

Looking for people willing to test balance for a gundam space combat game, please do 🔔 on this message if you’re interested

[twin mountain]

Is it specifically the Gundam ip or are you using that as a thematic reference

[orchid leaf]

Thematic ref

It was created to replicate zeta and to a lesser extent WFM fights specifically

[silver tinsel]

Psst, Mayflower (@tawny mountain), you have been pinged by @twin mountain.

[twin mountain]

gotcha then i'mi n

[orchid leaf]

Sweet! Mind if we send a friend request?

Winged (she/her) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) gotcha then i'mi n

If you do mind we can coordinate a test here

[twin mountain]

Sure

Absolutely coordinate on pnet

[orchid leaf]

Yeah that’s probably best

Basic premise of gameplay is that you play with small model counts on a relatively populated 2d board

Terrain represents asteroids, nebulous space, etc
Each mech has a skill level, which is Regular -> Veteran -> Ace
And there are also three phases: Engage, React, Battle

There are only two actions, being move and attack

All units can act in Engage and Battle, but regular units cannot act in React.
Similarly, there are restrictions on who can do what when. Everyone can move in a phase they can act in. Everyone can shoot in Battle, Veterans can shoot in React, and Aces can shoot whenever.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dEH4zLTAL8tlKbn_5D0TdYhbM4aUjAyQ1vhGLsGTfmw

And here is the doc

[twin mountain]

ooh o.o

[tawny mountain]

\unproxying so you don’t get ghost pinged, but is still mayflower— wanted to know what platform you’d prefer

[orchid leaf]

We are available for most of today and monday

[twin mountain]

Oh, Monday? Discord

[orchid leaf]

Ok sounds good!

I really appreciate you being willing to do this

[deep mirage]

It is but also grenades are a massive problem for the state of a lot of armory, take sapper shotgun, you are WAY better off with a few nades

Oh im way far behind

[compact leaf]

Yeaaah

They're just incredibly efficient to take

[signal birch]

There is also something awkward about short ranged weapons that don't have assault. Though some are more than good enough to conpensate.

[compact leaf]

y'know
you'd think shotguns would have assault across the board, and the auto shotgun would have the automatic rule

but.. nar...
I assume they made that decision to not just create a better SMG, though

[orchid leaf]

finished the board setup, will build a few more lists

Mayflower (Meowstrid) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Ok sounds good!

[tawny mountain]

@twin mountain just ping me when you’re available, or if something comes up. Excited to play w/ you!

[orchid leaf]

Oh wait it does that

I don’t… think that pinged her?

[tawny mountain]

\unlatch message

@twin mountain sorry if that did ping you, but I assume it didn’t since it isn’t blue so here is a ping like intended

[twin mountain]

ah thanks, yeah I'm around. that first one absolutely didn't ping me

well. let me rephrase

i'm not super free right this exact moment - in a few hours maybe?

[orchid leaf]

Mhm that works!

Ah wrong proxy

[twin mountain]

I should be free in 20

[orchid leaf]

I have a channel open here and also a tts server named space mech, password is cows

[twin mountain]

good playtest, good luck o7

[orchid leaf]

Summary of feedback:

Winged, unlike my previous testers, figured out (very quickly) that the only phase that mattered was, interestingly, the battle phase. The ability to pass and do nothing (for the record, an intended and integral part of the experience in the past), has left an issue where a dispersed force of weaker units can wait till the battle phase and annihilate enemies at maximum range. This part isn’t intended!
So what have I learned? Nothing is sacred! The current pilot skill system has not resulted in a close dogfight, and while it seemed like it was working in the past, it was… too easy to break to keep. I’m not sure how to fix it, but I’m working on ideas

Thank you to winged for the playtest o7

[twin mountain]

happy to help, good luck o/

[left onyx]

Not having read the rules the summary reads kinda like Winged went all Art of War on the wargame

[sand sonnet]

Anyone got a TLDR on issues with the BLKOUT guy?

[twin mountain]

@modern snow just found them very grindsety in a way that gave them a bad impression iirc

Here

^

[orchid leaf]

Ok I have opinions

Ecllection (They/Them) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Anyone got a TLDR on issues with the BLKOUT guy?

[twin mountain]

Also as many people have pointed out their general extremely American military cultural vibes makes me really want to ask about their politics

I would be very unsurprised to learn they're maga

[sand sonnet]

Yeah I thought I had heard through the grapevine that one of the owners was, and was tied up in some of that weird nu-TSR shit.

But I'm not finding good sources.

[orchid leaf]

They have previously housed some rather far right individuals in their private patreon equivalent

And said program is its own issue

[twin mountain]

Oh thanks for the heads up Felicity

I wish they didn't suck, I find their game mechanically really cool and inspirational

[orchid leaf]

They were removed eventually but only after a lot of asking

[twin mountain]

I may just steal their system one day and make my own game from it

[orchid leaf]

They basically charged you a subscription fee for acsess to the supposedly living ruleset of killwager

Felicity (Meowstrid) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) And said program is its own issue

Then they cut it off

And they didn’t allow downloading of the rules

[tepid steeple]

Thats extremely odd

[orchid leaf]

As in, the killwager rules
Also their rulebook killed my printer so I have some subjective beef with them

Oh yeah the actual quality of the stuff you get in the core box is questionable

Besides the minis, which are good, although they are printed in multiple resins

[compact leaf]

Oh, yeah
BLKout sketched me out :(

[tepid steeple]

Bleh :((

[compact leaf]

I admittedly didn't actually do any research, it was just pure vibes

[twin mountain]

Fwiw I do wanna point out that blkout has a faction of like. Purely female clones or something?

Like I find the game mechanically cool and brilliant and lore wise just very wtf

It's all lots of American action movie weirdness, one of the factions is aggressively bad guy Russia Mafia themed I dunno

[sand sonnet]

Yeah it very much feels like it fails the vibe check in general, but I thought there was more going on there.

There does seem to be a kerfuffle around the original owner using a lot of AI art that they then ousted.

[twin mountain]

Big picture I think everyone should just be careful about investing in guys that write stuff like this: https://www.blkoutgame.com/products/manticor-borz-group-force

Their Bratva fireteams coordinate with Cyka shock troopers and insertion units that slip through debris and ruin like predators.

... Cyka shock troopers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_profanity#Blyád'

🙄

[sand sonnet]

Not terribly interested myself, but wasn't sure how hard I needed to peel the one person I know who is interested off of it.

Instead I'll just continue to question his judgement about the game.

[supple shale]

Yeah this is a wild one from the faux romanization « cyka » to the absurd misuse of thieves’ argot

Also consider: one of the factions being fully « Rhodesian/ex-SADF mercenaries in the ‘90s à la Executive Outcomes » coded

[twin mountain]

It's literally just, like, ra ra American stuff. I'm struggling to put my finger on it but basically there's two kinds of American military veteran designer and one kind is very thoughtful and makes litorral commander

And the other is like

The military version of j.k. rowling

Absolutely zero self reflection

And they write American military cho chang stuff

And that comes out as the bratva group with their cyka shock troopers are gonna kill everyone while power metal plays

[orchid leaf]

Also the only good guys in Blkout are uh
Martians
And the bad guys are

https://tenor.com/view/nations-of-the-world-by-wakko-warner-animaniacs-gulf-of-america-usa-united-states-canada-mexico-panama-haiti-jamaica-peru-republic-dominican-cuba-caribbean-greenland-gif-16242553305497026975

But AMERICAN ones

Felicity (Meowstrid) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161730220164911187 message) Also the only good guys in Blkout are uh
Martians
And the bad guys are

For some reason

[twin mountain]

The UN has genetically engineered women super soldiers because I dunno. It's cool I guess

[orchid leaf]

But it’s better America with no problems (it doesn’t elaborate on what their problems are)

[twin mountain]

And I can accept gonzo stupid genre stuff but they keep hyping up how cool and realistic and badass their setting is it's all just very call of duty in the worst way

[echo marten]

Insert 'This is the future liberals want' meme here.

[twin mountain]

Maybe? Genuinely? Like they have all women genetically engineered super soldier teams and their AI units are called golems

I don't THINK they're trying to point at the jews

I think they're just trying to say cool words

But I really can't tell

[echo marten]

Yeah, Golem is one of those things where it could be DA JEWS nonsense or it could just be 'I played enough D&D to rot my brain'. They're like Elves in that they are cultural but they've become a 'Fantasy Thing' so it's tricky.

[twin mountain]

Yeah exactly

[orchid leaf]

I never really considered the naming on the golems

I know Israel is explicitly antagonistic in the docs

So antisemitism is possibly

Not that Israel isn’t irl.

[echo marten]

There's a big reason why I sat down with one of the Jewish Co-writers of Liminal Space and went 'Hey, so is this handling of Jewish Cultural Stories in bad taste, with my going with this focus?' XD

I was trying to un-D&D brainrot myself

As it's so easy to use that sorta stuff

[twin mountain]

Yeah it's hard to say how much it's American veterans just thinking krav maga and mossad are cool