#Indie+Alternative Wargaming

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supple shale
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Wargames Atlantic

I’m happy to announce that Wargames Atlantic will be refunding the backers of the Defiance Games Kickstarter from 2013. Details for backers are at the bottom of this note. You're probably asking why we are doing this:
There are very few people who know the real story behind Wargames Factory and Defiance Games and Tony Reidy. To understand what...

autumn sun
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12 years is an insane amount of time but I'm glad they're refunding people.

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But also holding on to that secret for so long is like...woof, man, what the hell.

supple shale
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Crazy stuff but props for laying it all out like this imho

autumn sun
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Yeah.

supple shale
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« I had to operate this awesome company under an alias for years because my personal brand was totally burned » is wild work but I won’t say I don’t get it,

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Very relatable impulse

autumn sun
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It does make me wonder if now that it's all out there they'll start producing those Leviathan models again, unless there's some weird rights issues that prevent it.

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--ah wait no those were Dreamforge, which Wargames Atlantic has some of those kits but weirdly not all.

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Wargames Factory had these, which for a time were the only plastic greatcoat models.

supple shale
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I remember those!

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« Well, it’s not exactly plastic Steel Legion, but… »

autumn sun
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It's as close as we got for a good while.

supple shale
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I think Dreamforge had the Wolfenstein lookin ass power armor guys?

autumn sun
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Yeah.

supple shale
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These hoes (courtesy of Agis N.)

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I know this line was wrapped up in all that business somehow

autumn sun
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https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/iron-core Notably it's missing a few kits from Dreamforge: the aforementioned Leviathans (15mm and 28mm versions), the grav-stug, and the Valkir assault troops.

Wargames Atlantic

Mark Mondragon's Iron-Core Universe returns with completely redesigned and retooled plastic sets! Kicking the range off is the one that started it all: Eisenkern Stormtroopers!

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https://dreamforge-games.com/pages/instructions Ah, hm, maybe more. Though a lot of these are very similar.

supple shale
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All this is dredging up some Memories, gee whiz

autumn sun
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I have two of the 15mm Leviathans and while I haven't assembled them, they're so far the only kits I've seen that requires a screwdriver to assemble.

sand cloak
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Wow

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I hope WA releases more deathfields kits

autumn sun
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Same. They've put out quite a few already and they all seem like good quality models.

sand cloak
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Yeah

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We got US marines

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Displaced French

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Penal players

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Hobbits with guns

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Displaced British

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Displaced Vikings

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The nazi paratroopers

echo marten
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What happened?

sand cloak
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One of the death field teams are the descendants of Fallschrimjager that were abducted at Carentan

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Though great proxy if you want Steel Legion

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Because they look like fucking steel legion

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Vikings

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Wargames Atlantic

THE WARRIORS OF VALHALLA TAKE THE FIELD… Abducted from their longship on the return voyage from a raid on Wessex, these Norsemen’s new owner settled them on a high gravity world and began their training for the Death Fields circuit. After each battle as wounds miraculously healed and even the dead were brought back to

next pilot
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These feel like steel legion but not

sand cloak
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Exactlu

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They don't got the masks

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Lemme get the other teams

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Wargames Atlantic

RULE BRITANNIA! In the far future, there are many suns that never set on the British Empire or at least on the Imperial sons and daughters that make up the Bulldogs team. One of the stars of the Death Fields Circuit, the Bulldogs is a combined team formed from abductees taken from the shadow of Isandlwana, the banks of

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I really want those bullies

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Because I can use the brodies for my Rangers of Kent

supple shale
echo marten
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...yikes

supple shale
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If you backed one of his kickstarters from 2013, he’s refunding with interest

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Wargames Atlantic

I’m happy to announce that Wargames Atlantic will be refunding the backers of the Defiance Games Kickstarter from 2013. Details for backers are at the bottom of this note. You're probably asking why we are doing this:
There are very few people who know the real story behind Wargames Factory and Defiance Games and Tony Reidy. To understand what...

modern snow
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I always got the impression that Hudson Adams was an alias, but assumed it was a "I just don't want to have my real name on Facebook" and not a safeguard against connection to a smoldering ruin of a business venture.

Props to him for airing this all out though.

twin mountain
compact leaf
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I have a battle report for you all~

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I played a real actual game of warcrow last night

distant roost
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How long does a warcrow game take to play out to the wire like that?

compact leaf
distant roost
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That's pretty swift!

compact leaf
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Was not a full-size game though, so it probably would've taken closer to 2.5 hours for us new folk

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I'm very certain you can easily cut a game of warcrow down to 2 hours no matter what under most circumstances though

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It plays very fast

distant roost
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Yeah those lists are compact enough to remember what everything is

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Once there's past like 6 distinct units in an army list my memory tends to fail me on what everything's bringing to the table

tepid steeple
compact leaf
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Oh you guys played 3 turn rounds huh?

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Neeaaat

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I did 4 turn rounds

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Oh

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Wait

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English

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I did not read properly...

tepid steeple
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❤️

distant roost
tepid steeple
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Yee

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Theres abilities to do stuff out of regular turn, and units that didnt activate get a mini one at end of each round, but yep

distant roost
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That's a good way to keep lists and games lean for sure

compact leaf
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Mhm mhm

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Some of your units are also.. compound units, basically

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They can have characters linked to them, rather than activating seperately

distant roost
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Got to play TTS Ember: Obsidian Protocol with a new to the game buddy of mine today, buddy was completely green, and it worked pretty good - played through a full Terminal hack 3 point scenario with pregen lists in about 3 hours. Buddy with a UN roster had a strong ranged core with missile launcher, backpack drone, and porcupines screening for ranged laser rifles, and me on RDL had a mix of missiles and melee to try to do zone control. Terminals get hacked automatically end of the round if zone's clear of enemies so first to the point gets an advantage in the other team has to attempt remote hacks of the terminals (located in the three 2x2 zones in center) to deny other team points. Screen shot is round 2 positioning.

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We wound up calling the scenario 14-2 in round 4 since RDL couldn't effectively push UN out of Bravo and Hotel since the UN mechs were able to do kickflips off the RDL missiles in mobility stance and UN got off the world's greatest mutilation shotgun shot to mangle up Anser's RDL melee mech pretty good and missile group ripped up Keyhole round 3.

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Tonight's rosters:

umbral prawn
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u gotta combo those RDL missiles with Suppression

orchid tulip
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RDL kinda needs some other source of supression imo

compact leaf
twin mountain
sand cloak
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To add more to this, you make the miniatures yourself.

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The miniatures come from nature. Acorn army mixed in with pinecone brutes.

sand cloak
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_>

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<_<

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Trench Bug STLS
CW: The Modeler has NSFW mini's on their profile page. Mix between SFW/NSFW really.

twin mountain
twin mountain
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Second, playtesting applications are opening for Mobile Arms! If you're interested in getting early access to the ruleset and weighing in on the game's development with feedback, head over to the Playtesting Applications channel in the BSS Discord and let us know that you'd be interested to participate. We hope to see you there, and we look forward to making Vermilion Horizons the best iteration of the Mobile Arms ruleset yet with your participation!

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@maiden ermine @toxic trench

twin mountain
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@modern snow @native portal cool look at another game using tokens and a zonemap, like undaunted ^

native portal
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Oooh

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Lmao tracking the sun is a bit much

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I do agree area spaces looks much more natural

twin mountain
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Yeah it's just an overhead photo and they drew some lines on it

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And honestly I dig it

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The og AI artist: god

distant monolith
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ohhhh

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should cover Flak Arcane one day really but my backlog is so packed right now

distant monolith
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fuck I forgot about Iron Sleet

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ah fuck the list kept getting longer

latent rover
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oh neat

tepid steeple
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@compact leaf how does this look for a 200 point intro game

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I didnt want to go too simple and do the basic line troop demo thing cause I think my sister found that boring

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I think it shows off some cool steel phalanx things, like mim -6 guy, netrod. Impetuous for funsies

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I could proxy something to do a myrm team with eudoros though

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Oh I suppose I should think about mission

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I think the agema is also fun if I run nuns cause I cant kill it till its had a chance to do something

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And Ill probably do a simple hacknet to show that eudoros has limits

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Msv2 orphan as threat against overextending but cant really aro or anything

compact leaf
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Like had some demos, etc

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And is there a mission you're going to play?

tepid steeple
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It was a while ago but yeah

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Probably superiority? I like superiority

compact leaf
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Would they know what Hidden Deployment and Impetuous actually do?

tepid steeple
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Not yet

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But I think theyd get it

compact leaf
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Ah..
Hmm
Do you have the list you're running against it?

compact leaf
tepid steeple
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Trying to thread the needle of enough cool infinity stuff that they get to do cool stuff but not overloaded with everything at once

compact leaf
tepid steeple
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Im figuring it out haha

compact leaf
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Ah okey

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Hmm

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So

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As much as I'd like to say the SP list is okay
It really only has one gun

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(Machaon)

tepid steeple
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Mm

compact leaf
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I'd try and fit Ajax in there maybe?
He's very very fun

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Here hold on-

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This is a lot more SP?
And they mostly need to know move+shoot, melee, engie/doctor, smoke, camouflage, and AD

tepid steeple
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Mhm

compact leaf
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I like to give people I'm demoing lists they can just run me over with when they want to do that kind of thing

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So this may be borne of that habit, just a tad

tepid steeple
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Yeah makes sense

compact leaf
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If you want to, also you could teach them fireteams with this?

tepid steeple
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Mm

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Especially with sp that feels important

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Need to stop being a goober about proxying xP

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Especially when i havent been coloecting everything

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Umm

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Ekdromoi are so cheap damn

compact leaf
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Yar

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As much as I'd love to give them the KHD one...

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You said they haven't played much so that might be unintuitive

tepid steeple
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Mm

compact leaf
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So like
Give them the opportunity to drop that guy in if they're in a tough spot

tepid steeple
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Thanks for the comments ❤️

compact leaf
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Of course!

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Even if you don't take our advice, we trust you to run a demo we think

tepid steeple
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Thats sweet

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I dont think i have the brain to do it tomorrow as I planned

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But Ill try at some pointtt

compact leaf
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We've run a few..
Just waiting on some models so we can actually paint up our own personal demo force

ocean holly
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Any Bolt Action players here?

left moss
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yeah

ocean holly
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I'd like a demo game, if you're willing to teach

left moss
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can probably do what time zone are you?

ocean holly
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AEST

tawny sandal
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While statistically it’d be the same, I will say drawing the activation dice will be less fun over VTT than the ol’ “draw from the dice bag of myyyyyystery”

left moss
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uhhhhhhhhhhhh

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im gmt

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might be a lil more complicated

ocean holly
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Yeahhhh

left moss
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unfortunate happy to answer any questions tho

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actually @ocean holly whats your free time look like

ocean holly
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All the time

left moss
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well what would be an ideal time and date

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or day rather

ocean holly
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Days, Monday, Wednesday, thgursday, times 8-8

left moss
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i could maybe do monday at like 2pm your time

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wait not not 2pm thats 1 am

ocean holly
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Maaaybe not, then

left moss
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let me hammer time

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2 mins

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<t:1761210000:T> - <t:1761249600:T>

ocean holly
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That's when I sleep

left moss
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unlucky

round canopy
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Oooh starcraft stuff

modern snow
round canopy
modern snow
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just buy however many it takes to get free shipping! 🙃

round canopy
compact leaf
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I think we have at least one other Ontario Infinity player here..
Will I be seeing anyone at Autumn Assault?

modern snow
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Whispers of the Deep inches closer to its release date... eyes

sand cloak
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They gotta make sculpts of the frogs.

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Frog gunners

digital bay
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currently watching a daemonic assassin assault a police van in Trench Crusade

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the hunter of the left hand path has been slain by the emplaced cannon + map terrain combo that has been dubbed "the vengabus" by the players

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meanwhile behind a similar van on the other side of the map some smaller demons are repeatedly hitting a man with sticks

potent wyvern
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Man how the hell do you find folks to get into a wargame with

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I guess check my lgs

modern snow
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A bit of frostgrave, a bit of mausritter...

maiden abyss
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Frostgrave-like?

modern snow
# maiden abyss Frostgrave-like?

yeah! A semi-competitive skirmish game with heavy campaign elements, with each player piloting a single warband that revolves around a central upgradeable character

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in the case of Frostgrave, you have the all-important wizard and their apprentice, with the rest of the warband comprised of nameless hired mercenaries of various flavors

maiden abyss
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Ooh interesting

fallen rune
weary cradle
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if not a discord then a facebook group

sleek trail
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facebook is thankfully less common but wargamers are full of oldheads so def check

twin mountain
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@umbral prawn hey I actually have a playtest for my new strike trigger prototype ready

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I remember some other people were interested in playing too?

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spooky

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anyway i'd be interested in running a playtest this weekend

distant roost
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I got availability to playtest this weekend if you need extra hands, if I recall right it's a 1v1 kind of situation so you might fill up fast

twin mountain
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yes!

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it is

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I remember some other people were interseted too just don't know which

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it's sorta chessish, square grid, no los, godtear style

clear shadow
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Ooooooo

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Not sure if I'd be available to playtest but I'm definitely interested in checking out the rules

twin mountain
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Ok!

hollow crypt
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is it 1v1 now?

twin mountain
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I'm getting over myself and making it a real game that isn't impossible to play lmao

hollow crypt
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put me in coach

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I will play 1000 hours of 1v1 strike trigger

twin mountain
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Hahaha okay <3 well. I do want to run tests today

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Okay so @umbral prawn @hollow crypt when are you guys free today fuck it

hollow crypt
twin mountain
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Ok!

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I'll aim for the second window

umbral prawn
twin mountain
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would <t:1761501600:t> or <t:1761505200:t> work for you guys? it'll be more convenient for me all around

twin mountain
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@umbral prawn @hollow crypt in 30 minutes?

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Wait derp I meant to say like ten minutes, like, I'm trying to be early here like peri prefers

hollow crypt
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also works

umbral prawn
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10 minutes from that post is... right now, which works fine

twin mountain
twin mountain
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went well

twin mountain
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has anayone played a billion suns? and played around with the 'people can summon as much as they want but it costs them' victory system?

twin mountain
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this is so cool

twin mountain
compact leaf
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I uhh
Dropzone commander, to a degree?
I'm pretty sure the dropships can just pop in and drop there stuff of nearly anywhere that'll fit them

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At least that's how it worked when I tried it

twin mountain
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Oh shit that's good to know actually

compact leaf
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It was just a matter of paying for the dropships to bring everything down
And like
Dropships were also units, so they'd have different drop capacities and everything. Usually had guns..

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Not sure how much that matters here but I feel it's worth pointing out?

sand sonnet
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They were paid for in your list and didn't just bring in anything though.

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They could carry whatever units were part of your list.

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Except Shaltarii who were weird.

crude lodge
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anybody here play OPR?

sand sonnet
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Not actively at the moment but I have played it a bit.

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New edition is in beta I think?

crude lodge
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there's a new ED?

sand sonnet
crude lodge
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huh

sand sonnet
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Looks like they're writing one soon and the beta feedback period is over.

crude lodge
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you have tts?

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tabletop sim

sand sonnet
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I do. However I wouldn't be interested in a TTS game of it myself.

crude lodge
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whys that?

sand sonnet
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Not the game I want to dedicate time to at the moment.

crude lodge
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fari fair

sand sonnet
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There's a pretty decent TTS community for the game though.

crude lodge
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any specific servers?

twin mountain
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@umbral prawn @hollow crypt @distant roost I'd be interested in another playtest of the strike trigger wargame sometime later this week

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I can bug other people too

umbral prawn
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Regrettably, I am fully occupied this weekend

crude lodge
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srtike trigger?

twin mountain
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Understood!

twin mountain
crude lodge
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what time are u running it?

twin mountain
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Not sure yet I normally find players first

crude lodge
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I live in the UK, friday+sunday are both fine

twin mountain
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Noted, thank you kf

distant roost
twin mountain
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I'll need to do some work on the mod anyway

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Gotcha gotcha

crude lodge
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what kinda game is strike trigger anyways?

twin mountain
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If I do end up signing you up I'll explain it to you haha it's a dice allocation chess kinda thing

umbral prawn
crude lodge
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ooh

signal orbit
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OPR is fun

crude lodge
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you played b4?

signal orbit
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Yeah I currently play, and I've got an HDF community book that I'm gonna update once 3.5 is live. It's got most of the imperial guard models and rules options from history that aren't currently supported by the base OPR book

hollow crypt
sudden halo
twin mountain
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@umbral prawn @hollow crypt @distant roost finished the first rulebook prototype, planning on another session on sunday: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19bLSyjy1GNzz1KPQLRm129zhY3lzr30m_FcYdbqjrs0/edit?usp=sharing

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tron you'll be happy to know i'm going with the warp in anywhere approach

hollow crypt
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7x7, warp in anywhere? so here for it

twin mountain
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yup

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@crisp edge I may actually want to commission you for a quick piece of art for the round tracker, if you're up for it

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it's a collapsing orbit onto a planet with 5 points the orbital trajectory

distant roost
hollow crypt
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oh fuck this whips ash

trail fulcrum
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Golden ratio time?

hollow crypt
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we have inserted a narrative framing ❤️

trail fulcrum
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Spiral

twin mountain
hollow crypt
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it is very good

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btw, can you turn on ziplines? I assume the answer to be no but 'continuous' doesn't make it super clear to me at first glance

twin mountain
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they're just individual connections between nodes

hollow crypt
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hmm, I'm interested to see how that plays out

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I'm free the same times this sunday as the last

twin mountain
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I've changed objectives so that you only need to secure them once instead of every round, because it works better with the new format

crude lodge
crisp edge
twin mountain
sudden halo
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Oooh! I wonder what the rules will be like

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Dystopian Wars looks like a pretty fun game but I have negative interest in steampunk

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So if they make a convincing space version it might be worth checking out.

twin mountain
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In an alternate 1970s where corporations, not countries, wage war for control. Zone of Conflict puts players in command of one of four powerful factions in this strategic deck-building wargame. Seize victory points and secure critical sites on a modular hex-based battlefield that grows deadlier with every turn. As conflict escalates, unlock adv...

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twin mountain
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@umbral prawn @distant roost @hollow crypt when would be a good time to playtest today

hollow crypt
twin mountain
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Gotcha

distant roost
umbral prawn
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Uhhh I thought I said I was not available this weekend

twin mountain
distant roost
twin mountain
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@hollow crypt @distant roost hmm. how late are you guys up for hanging out and doing this. my european creatures are still awake for the next two hours so I'm tempted to do deadlock with them or something and do our playtest later if it's convenient

hollow crypt
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probably not later than <t:1762131600:T>

distant roost
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I'm good until about <t:1762133400:t> as a start time, I tend to have early bedtimes

hollow crypt
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I too am currently european

twin mountain
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! understood. okay.

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I'm leaning on like <t:1762110000:t> to <t:1762117200:t>

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sometime around then

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not too late for you guys

hollow crypt
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that'd be good

distant roost
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Sure, I'll keep that block open then, enjoy the Deadlock

twin mountain
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@open grail I know you were interested in spectating, if you see this poke me with times that work for you

open grail
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Or pretty much any time later than that until 18:00 my time

twin mountain
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@hollow crypt @distant roost @open grail okay let's do it in 2 hours from now

twin mountain
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gonna sit in a voice call and nest

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coo coo

twin mountain
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wheee good playtest

twin mountain
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@open grail

distant roost
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Thanks for running the test; appreciate y'all's patience as I stumbled through - great session, very impressed with the state everything's in already

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Probably the coolest thing about the decision space is that striking early wasn't always the play compared to striking later, compared to a lot of wargames where first strike advantage is huge

twin mountain
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the strike trigger engine also helps with keeping everyone constantly cycling their attention across the entire battlefield in sweeps

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I appreciate the ziplines letting the parameters of fights suddenly change with a good movement too

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you used that well

distant roost
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Thanks, yeah when movement is constrained and the objectives change each round the ziplines are great for redirecting a push

hollow crypt
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@open grail what times work for you vis a vis some windfall? I'm currently in gmt and do need to sleep at some point, but I can make most times work with advance notice

twin mountain
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Oh god I maybe need to come up with some names that don't suck lmao

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@tall heart I wanna pick your brains over econ terms today

tall heart
twin mountain
open grail
hollow crypt
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how horridly late is the later end of that timeslot for you

open grail
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11pm

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Which is why I'm hesitant to start an hour+ game later than that

twin mountain
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the last playtest was 1 hour 40 minutes, and that is within my usual design goals

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all my games are target 1.5 hours, reasonable maximum 2 hours

hollow crypt
# open grail 11pm

oh okay that's a sort of reasonable hour. I can be up at <t:1762232400:T> no problem

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I've always been an early riser

open grail
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Oh excellent!

twin mountain
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❤️

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I'm updatng the template btw

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moving overhead costs to a much more readable bottom right corner

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no changes in units or mechanics for this batch for you guys

open grail
hollow crypt
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i mean the earlier one is genuinely no problem

open grail
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Oh okay then let's go with <t:1762318800:f>

hollow crypt
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sounds great

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oh I guess that is tuesday night for you lol

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weird

open grail
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Yeah lol

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I'm blearily making my coffee for the start of the week over here :P

hollow crypt
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lol

twin mountain
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updated the mod

hollow crypt
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the board is grey 🙏 thank you winged

twin mountain
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hopefully this one is less eye burny

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also tell me how much easier it is to track operational costs each round when you do play

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I'm trying to make that number bigger and separate and logically closer to the action token numbers

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I'm probably gonna try and get players to track it with its own separate tracker, but it should be easy to regenerate and sanity check your current total overhead whenever

hollow crypt
twin mountain
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understandable and noted

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darker colours for the map and lighter colours for units are probably what I'm going to settle on

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better clarity + you get a better bombed out city vibe

fallen rune
tawny sandal
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There’s an official scenario out for Down Range now, for a GM/Enemy Forces player and 1-3 Marine players, it’s based around assaulting a small-ish town in the made up island nation of Lemuria (along with some random events to keep players on their toes). While I’m hoping he does a update pass on the core rules, since there’s some typos and lack of clarity of things, it’s interesting to see more stuff continuing to come out for it

tawny sandal
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Also, I continue to love his tiny hotdog men and lil 10mm vehicles

hollow slate
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Ooh, the 1.0 Trench Crusade rules dropped today

echo marten
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Did they keep that thing they said they were planning of making Engineers +1 Melee instead of Ranged? As that looks to be kinda...killing my Eire warband.

twin mountain
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what's the final system look like?

hollow slate
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Mostly the same, but with more clarification and keywords

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I'm checking the IS channel in their discord and they are... going through it

twin mountain
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oh?

hollow slate
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In the emotional sense

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Though campaigns and terrain got a facelift

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Terrain now has archetypes

fallen rune
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Oh nice

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The terrain and mapping rules were my substantive complaint about the game

echo marten
#

I need to get my hands on the 1.0 rules. Apparently something big happened with Eire but I can't see from the discord what it was. XD

#

Oooh, they can just Buy AP rounds super cheap now

#

They also can now have Great Axes on infantry instead of the 'no heavy weapons at all'

#

Which is good as it felt wrong a melee faction couldn't get 2 handed melee weapons

hollow slate
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Yeah, despite the Engi change, NA is doing well enough, same for heretics

#

Everyone else needs a once-over, it sounds like

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For example, IS's Alchemist Armor... Doesn't actually do that much against the flamethrower

fallen rune
#

Woag, build diversity for HL?

echo marten
#

AP SMGs on Sniper Priests seem fun for Eire.

tepid steeple
#

Hate to interrupt tc posting but warcrow reveals!!!

echo marten
#

Poor unfortunate souls intensifies

sudden halo
# tepid steeple

Those foot knights are sick. Feudom designs keep surprising me.

#

I think it's the historically based armor.

tepid steeple
#

I like how they all have their own heraldry

sudden halo
#

The tentacle surfers are also very cool.

echo marten
#

The Transelven assault troops going 'Nice armour, look at these abs'

sudden halo
#

I want to see a lot of the scions stuff in a other paint scheme. I think the crimson skin + cream falls flat for me and makes me like them less than I should.

tepid steeple
#

My partner has painted uruk orange and he looks pretty awesome

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Is painting

#

Just noticed the scions have eyes on their abs

twin mountain
#

Is there a video explaining the rules I can watch or is everything too nascent right now

weary cradle
#

chat whats like the maximum height a piece of terrain can be b4 its meaningless

#

im realizing this may be a broad question

tepid steeple
#

Depends on the like mobility of a game

autumn sun
#

Honestly anything above a foot and a half is effectively meaningless and often a nuisance on the table.

tepid steeple
#

Like um theres a lot of very tall terrain thats been made for games like necromunda but in practice they dont really work cause everything is so slow

autumn sun
#

Did that stop one of the game stores from having a 4ft tall ruined skyscraper? Absolutely the fuck not lmao

tepid steeple
#

Physical requirements of being able to reach is also a consideration

sudden halo
#

Unless you're going for something crazy vertical, anything taller than your tallest game piece is unnecessary

tepid steeple
#

Unless a game mechanises it in some way in tlos the only benefit of height is like parralax effect type things and theres kinda diminishing returns on that

weary cradle
tepid steeple
#

I think a big difference is if you have like

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One activation per unit per round

#

Then spending more than round getting into position is probably gonna feel bad

#

If a unit can move multiple times in a round, ie effectively a more mobile game, theres a bit more room

weary cradle
#

ic ic makes sense

tepid steeple
autumn sun
#

If I'm making a building it then depends on if models go inside. Non-internal stuff? Like 2", it's fine, it's more blocking terrain at that point. Internal stuff? Kinda depends on the type of building I'm making--mordheim-style ruins are a little over 2" per floor because I have to account for models moving around in there, usually closer to 2.5".

weary cradle
#

nodnod
think ill stick to a 1-2' range then

autumn sun
#

Sensible. I tend not to go over like 8" unless it's something elaborate or meant to be big and imposing.

autumn sun
# hollow slate Ooh, the 1.0 Trench Crusade rules dropped today
Trench Crusade

Crusaders, Today is a special day: We are officially moving the game away from its “playtest” state and into the official 1.0 release! You can find them on the rules page of our website. The new rules are, more or less, the same Trench Crusade you all know and love. Whilst there are minor changes … Continued

hollow slate
autumn sun
tawny sandal
#

Any new history or just rules tweaks?

twin mountain
#

tfw i open the rulebook and flip to the rulebooks and immediately spot an error

weary cradle
#

whats the error

twin mountain
#

well. I guess that goes to show I'm quicker at spotting this stuff

#

I should really just become an editor

fallen rune
weary cradle
#

ahh lol

hollow slate
#

Initiative says that you choose, Activation says you go first

twin mountain
#

can choose in section 1, must choose in section 2

weary cradle
#

yea i see it now

twin mountain
#

I'm 3 sentences in and the rules have already broken

hollow slate
#

Section 1 is newer and more accurate, but yeah, it's scuffed

twin mountain
#

just, like, as a 1.0 thing after tons of playtesting

weary cradle
#

yea i was filtering it w the last version of the playtest i read

twin mountain
#

it for sure immediately knocked some wind out of my ornery winged rule sails

twin mountain
weary cradle
#

honestly i thought this was gonna be another dice typo thing

fallen rune
#

I imagine it’s some kind of versioning issue with previously being able to choose to have initiative

twin mountain
twin mountain
#

but i'm like, less interested in typos

weary cradle
#

its not a typo

twin mountain
#

"roll a dice" is a typo

fallen rune
#

I forget, does TC have counteracts?

weary cradle
#

i dont believe so but im also not sure what counteract means

fallen rune
#

In this case things to do when you’re outnumbered and getting dogpiled

weary cradle
#

ohhh, no not rly

fallen rune
#

Huh interesting

#

I guess that makes it riskier to skew elite

#

Which is prolly good

weary cradle
#

it is funny to me that u could hack trench crusade into a ttrpg

#

honestly hack is laying it thick, u could just run it as such

twin mountain
#

what's a risky success roll vs a success roll

weary cradle
#

its explained later but failing the risky roll ends the activation basically

hollow slate
twin mountain
#

ok

weary cradle
#

its also kinda buried in the success rolls boxout

hollow slate
#

Okay, yeah, found (one) of the reasons IS players are upset

weary cradle
#

whahappen

fallen rune
hollow slate
#

Flamethrowers ignore armor, which they've done since playtest, but now they ignore any effects on the armor

#

Completely and 100% bypassing Alchemist Armor

#

Which both has the normal negate fire rule, and further protection from fire weapons

weary cradle
#

r the flamethrowers not keyworded w fire

hollow slate
#

They are, but they also have ignore armor

tawny sandal
#

This seems like one of those “special rule supersedes generic rule” things

hollow slate
#

So fireproof armor does jack and shit unless we have some weird caveat

echo marten
#

Oops

weary cradle
#

its two competing special rules

#

is the thing

#

does feel unintentional tho

tawny sandal
#

It does need clarification but the intent seems pretty clear in this instance at least

#

I.e. the fireproof armor should be fireproof

twin mountain
#

alchemy isn't real silly

hollow slate
#

Technically one is in the faction rules and the other is in the main book, but one is "armor doesn't apply" and the other is "this armor reduces fire and gas damage weapons"

#

The House of Wisdom disagrees

tawny sandal
echo marten
#

Drink it

#

Delicious

tawny sandal
#

I think I might do all my home plumbing with it, if I wasn’t meant to why is it the origin of the term?

teal cloud
#

I'm really not happy with 1.0

#

[Trench crusade]

left onyx
left onyx
#

I know you were/are really into TC so I'm interested in your take here

teal cloud
#

Long story short, the changes are just mind boggling

#

Besides for a few struggling NA factions like Eire, the theme is strong stuff got stronger and weak stuff got weaker

#

There's also some really blatant typos and obviously broken combos, including ones that had been fixed in playtest

twin mountain
#

oof

#

that's dire bad code smell

teal cloud
#

For example you can now get two brazen bulls in campaign again, which had been fixed

#

You can also, uh, give them -3 unreducible armor if you're playing House of Wisdom. If that makes it sound like Iron Sultanate is good, wrong. Everything else in the faction is unchanged or worse lol

twin mountain
#

that's very unfortunate. thanks for the heads up smooth

teal cloud
#

(Okay so the meta IS builds are good but like, list variety is badly flattened with this update)

fallen rune
#

Oh that’s a shame

twin mountain
#

I've always been an antifan of "our game has cool vibes we'll figure the rules out later" design flows

#

it sounds like they've got problems making good game

teal cloud
#

Other things are that the knights of avaricr got a nerf they didn't need while raiding party got a buff they also didn't need

fallen rune
#

The (perceived) lack of variety was something I didn’t like

teal cloud
#

And Prussia was a S- tier faction that got just flat buffed

#

Its just like... what is going on at the dev's table

left onyx
twin mountain
#

that's not how I remember the KS

teal cloud
#

The current IS cope is that the IS player in the dev team has dice personally blessed by Allah

twin mountain
#

but I may be wrong

left onyx
#

I mean the post-playtest rules, not the rules as of KS

fallen rune
#

I keep reading IS as Inner Sphere Augh

twin mountain
#

oh I see right yes in that sense

teal cloud
#

Okay this one actually annoys me, Jannissary countercharge didn't get changed at all (you get a +1 dice on attack if your first action is a charge) but that's a total nonbo with everything else about the model

fallen rune
#

Aren’t those guys like your basic shooters?

hollow slate
#

No, those are the Azebs, Janissaries are elite shock troops

tawny sandal
#

No, Jannisaries are your special guys

fallen rune
#

Ah ok

left onyx
#

IMO nonbos are weird because sometimes it's "unit is a mess with no direction" sometimes it turns a unit into a wellrounded generalist

fallen rune
#

I haven’t played it much and I only spent a lot of time theorycrafting HL and a little bit of court

hollow slate
#

Still troops, but they get Strong and their (not great) counter charge, most of the time they become your designated snipers since they can easily carry the siege jezails

#

There's rules for the tits-out bird though!

compact leaf
#

HERE THEY COME

#

I'm sorry I really need to share these

#

@tepid steeple KNIGHTS

hollow slate
#

But yeaaaah, probably going to wait for some errata before getting back into TC.

fallen rune
#

Yeah it seems like a mess rn

hollow slate
#

Oof, apparently terrain is all-or-nothing

fallen rune
#

Wym?

hollow slate
#

Players roll off and winner sets up all terrain instead of alternating

fallen rune
#

Oh yeah, I saw that and I didn’t like it

hollow slate
#

And there is a separate roll-off for determining who starts where

compact leaf
#

I think incorporating terrain setup into the initiative roll in the first place is a mistake, tbh

fallen rune
#

I agree, I really prefer neutral or pre-made terrain setups

#

I don’t love it how many wargames are like “idk you do you” when it comes to terrain

#

It’s so important

hollow slate
#

The terrain rules were fairly comprehensive before, about alternating terrain, starting with big before going small, etc

fallen rune
#

Yeah I thought it was a pretty good implementation

#

It wasn’t my favorite but it was a good way to do ad hoc terrain

#

Esp for TC which I think really benefits from being high-terrain

sleek trail
#

i think games should have terrain set up rules or at least advice

#

but also preset layout suggestions and the encouragement to have fully premade boards

teal cloud
#

Yeah, TC terrain is really important. There's a number of models that can end the game on the spot if they get an oppressive vantage point

#

Serpent Assault Gun Sloth Hellknights, artillery witches, and the like

autumn sun
#

Man. This all sounds really bizarre and kind of disappointing.

#

Like looking through the core rules and it seems solid but like...why roll back changes like that.

tepid steeple
#

Terrain was already my least favourite part of and possibly biggest problem with tc and it sounds like it got even worse oop

tepid steeple
tepid steeple
#

The scion unit is so cool too

tall heart
sudden halo
#

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, I adore the idea of turnip28. But the particular vibes + the idea that it's a competitive game + the fact that it actually isn't has, at least locally, made the community kind of unpleasant to the point that the main champion of the game has washed his hands of it.

modern snow
modern snow
twin mountain
sudden halo
#

locally

#

he's also one of our organizers for infinity and not someone who drops involvement on things lightly, so it stood out to me

twin mountain
#

oof

#

that sucks

#

I guess, ironically, as a wh replacement they're speedrunning the awkward diorama-trying-to-be-game thing wh has always struggled with

modern snow
teal cloud
#

This came a day after a big shift to plastic only announcement so TC just landed on its face really damn hard

modern snow
#

(I say this not really engaging with TC much so I'm like a super outsider here lol)

tawny sandal
#

Shift to plastic only?

twin mountain
#

so even the diorama lads aren't happy huh

sudden halo
#

they announced no new STL/3D print releases after they finish the KS deliverables and a a few extras to flesh out the factions

#

and a full move to plastic

#

which that's kind of a mixed bag. lots of people would be excited to be able to just buy the minis without the hassle of printing

autumn sun
#

They're also really behind on the deliverables. Which doesn't seem to be their fault overall here, mind, but it's not a good look when the 1.0 ruleset is what's going out to printers and it's looking to be...that.

sudden halo
#

but lots of people also like the accessibility of printing. but bad rules drop will do a lot to damper any excitement the plastic minis might have generated

tawny sandal
#

Rules can be fixed, but insisting on that is very disappointing

tepid steeple
#

Tc really is a like. Art focused (and sold) game and they’ve seemingly fumbled every other single aspect (namely like, lore, official minis, mechanics)

#

Which will really suck if they outright fail because like

#

There was a lot of community emotion and cash invested there

#

In a way that like hasnt existed for wargames I dont think, in comparison to ttrpgs and board games

twin mountain
#

it has seemed like a breath of fresh air to wh fans in particular

#

because I guess they want something that's gnarly like wh but isn't so fash adjacent

#

or hasn't been so happy to cozy up to fash gamers for so long

tepid steeple
#

But also the only ppl who I saw playing it at my local were stinky and loud men

twin mountain
#

oof :x

#

so. not doing a great job pulling in nice new blood then huh?

#

even wren mentioned a toxic community

autumn sun
#

WH players got excited because it's grimdark, not fashy, and seems to scratch that same itch Mordheim did (even has the original dev on it).

#

But, well...

tepid steeple
#

Honestly I think when it comes down to it the only difference between tc and gw is that gw dont run any community forums to kick ppl out of 😅

twin mountain
#

ouch

#

🫂

tepid steeple
#

I mean tc also dont have a 50 year history for context so its not just that but like

#

Idk

twin mountain
#

well. I know it's not the same thing at all but on a positive note, I'll say that hey: mobile arms really fucks and @modern snow is truly lovely and also is actively looking for playtesters right now, so if people wanna take some of their wargaming energy to happier climes that's a lovely place to start

#

cosu was just dropping the latest set of new cards in the bss server the other day

#

(also if anyone wants to help test horrible ashley chess shit, my windfall prototype is going well enough that playtesters are just playing it without me)

twin mountain
#

do you WANT to playtest horrible chess shit

#

because I do think i'm an excellent designer but also I like making weird fucking games compared to the norm haha

#

and mobile arms made me think you were more into the less abstract more evocative stuff

twin mountain
autumn sun
#

Sludge seems to still be getting stuff so I don't think killed.

#

But they do share similarities in terms of visuals and overall themes so I think it's a case of like...sour grapes?

twin mountain
#

oh! sean sutter is the relicblade guy?

#

he seems so nice

#

why would anyone be mean to the relicblade guy

autumn sun
#

No clue, I can't seem to find anything about it.

modern snow
autumn sun
#

Oh, that sucks.

modern snow
#

yeah it be that way sometimes sadbear

#

Sludge is already pretty great as-is though and the two armies sean sculpted are awesome

#

I love the gore mechanic as a concept

modern snow
autumn sun
#

I mean yeah it's why I backed it for the core book because Mordheim was a foundational game for me.

#

But now I'm like "eeeh..."

left onyx
#

I can see how it's been a issue

left onyx
twin mountain
compact leaf
compact leaf
#

:3

#

*not final

#

Oop-
Sorry for invading!

tepid steeple
#

Ooooh

#

Oh yeah this got shared in my local server but I hadnt read it yet oops haha

modern snow
# twin mountain What's the gore mechanic? :o

so as units die, they deposit gore based on the severity of their death. as gore piles accumulate, they emanate a passive debuff to the morale of units within a certain distance (It's been a while so I forget the exact measurement used)

but the point was that battlefield violence had real, tangible, lasting consequences and troops were more likely to break coherency and run if the horrors of war got to them.

tepid steeple
#

Definitely makes sense as a consideration

modern snow
#

of course you get things like veterans or beasts that are much less affected by gore or attacks that generate additional gore like.. a cannonball for instance

autumn sun
#

Ah, yeah that's kinda interesting.

echo marten
# compact leaf

Oooh, Liberated. Playing more into the Scions as underdogs with some of the new units.

tepid steeple
#

Theyre the tentacle guys :)

#

They seem kinda similar to the harvester in some ways but hes like a golem so

compact leaf
#

To me the wildest profiles from these in each faction are the Tutor, Magister, and Walker of the Leaf Storm

#

In particular the first and last

tepid steeple
#

I bring this

#

Walker of the leaf storm is really cool though

#

Ummm the magister is really cool and like how it uses the high commands design space

#

Im interested to see how all these chain activation abilities end up working in a game

compact leaf
#

Oh

#

Wow she is
Disgusting

tepid steeple
#

Haha

compact leaf
#

I found this

echo marten
tepid steeple
#

Terrifying

compact leaf
#

We just have to wait for our scary unit that runs people over..
Syenann having it right off the bat has helped that a lot

tepid steeple
#

Mace escorts are pretty good tbf

#

But yeah the yew just nerf you so much

#

I find the two health bar lady pretty scaryy

#

Oh right the rowan is once per game that makes sense why hers is free

compact leaf
#

Mhm mhm

compact leaf
#

Seems the Foot Knights are going to be built to do that as well

tepid steeple
#

I really like the syzigians stress clear with their massive stress capacity

compact leaf
#

It's so good..

#

I do wonder if Sysigian is going to start finding a home inside a second unit of foot knights instead of mace escorts though

tepid steeple
#

Maybe!

#

I feel like the unit restrictions on the knight of the sacred relic and morgane are a little odd

#

Since everything else has just been infantry

echo marten
#

I need to get more into playing Warcrow so I can evaluate units worth a damn. I really like the new Liberated visually and they look like they bounce about like pingpong balls wrecking shit but I'm not yet any good at telling if something is good

tepid steeple
#

So their push is an action so it like

#

Will only usually happen if they get locked in combat I think

tepid steeple
#

They have pretty good dice though, and dealing stress directly is nice. I think most of the time they’ll like

#

Demoralise someone and theyll be frightened for that check which is pretty good

#

Depending on their target

compact leaf
#

Something I'm struggling to evaluate is the commander, especially as there is only one knight that can fully benefit from its passive

tepid steeple
#

Oh wait green is better than blue

#

I always get that the wrong way around

#

I guess they can bounce out of combat into engaging someone else and then push+attack the next activation

#

Wait at the end of the target’s activation????

#

Is that right???

#

on the commander

compact leaf
#

Yes indeed

#

So
It's very good for positioning

#

But if you're engaged or something then..

tepid steeple
#

So like as long you end within 7 you can rest all over the place. And pass your rolls

compact leaf
#

It's a skill, not an action

#

It's move or a skill, is the whole thing

#

You can't just
Choose to rest

tepid steeple
#

Huh?

compact leaf
#

Unit cards have skills on them

#

Those are what it's referring to

tepid steeple
#

No his thing says rest

compact leaf
#

Oh

#

You're right

#

How'd I miss that

tepid steeple
#

Haha

compact leaf
#

My brain deleted the entire first part of it videogames

tepid steeple
#

It is a little move though as a result

compact leaf
#

Mhm

tepid steeple
#

But yeah that is what skill means hmmm

compact leaf
#

I guess it's our stress management character?

tepid steeple
#

Sacred relics skill is pretty swell though

compact leaf
#

Mhm mhm

#

KotSR really likes it

tepid steeple
#

Right or move I missed that cause it was a newline

compact leaf
#

You can charge and then hit something with the big hammer and debuff it

tepid steeple
#

By our powers combined

#

We can read one whole sentence

compact leaf
#

We'd be too powerful otherwise

#

Oookay so three options

tepid steeple
#

I like his command ability

compact leaf
#

Rest, move, or skill

tepid steeple
#

If he joins a unit

#

But then you dont get his passive

compact leaf
#

Yar..

#

No spellcasting either

tepid steeple
#

But a 12 stride bubble is enough to cover two objectives on a lot of missions

compact leaf
#

A lot of Feudom characters really feel like they want to leave their units

#

At some point

tepid steeple
#

Mm. I only realised how that works relatively recently

#

Like in terms of how the activation tokens are placed

compact leaf
tepid steeple
#

Ive popped out my syzigian before to shoot ppl while being protected by his escorts

compact leaf
#

Oh cute

#

Maybe his command ability is also capable of turning the tide in the midfield..

tepid steeple
#

Oh he can like

compact leaf
#

I'm not experienced enough to know how often it comes down to 1 conquest

tepid steeple
#

Flip an objective that you take with a 0 conquest guy

#

I guess

#

Like

compact leaf
#

The spell is pretty notable as well

tepid steeple
#

Yeah like in general flipping an objective thats only held because they were there first

compact leaf
#

Funny how they've made it a spell instead of an ability you roll for, I guess Feudom also uses prayers to coordinate their troops

tepid steeple
#

Yeah I was surprised he was a spellcaster

compact leaf
#

I do wonder if we wait on playing 2 foot knights

#

Since a Genevieve list probably wants mounted ones as well

#

Guh..

#

Have to wait..

compact leaf
#

Oh
Reading tutor again

#

That command ability

#

Eugh

#

I don't want to deal with that

twin mountain
#

@gusty basalt

celest root
twin mountain
potent wyvern
sleek trail
#

great presentation out the gate

#

big fan

hollow slate
#

Got my next wave of Obsidian Protocol stuff!

#

Christ the mat is big

#

... Well, not going to be using that at home, lol

#

The parts inside seem all right at least

twin mountain
distant roost
# twin mountain

Is the Deterrent cost of 65 supposed to represent an all in area denial? That's a big buy in

twin mountain
#

yes it does kill everything in 9 spaces

#

it is pretty expensive

distant roost
#

That's one way to send a message while up on points, that's a fun one

twin mountain
celest root
#

Ooooooo

compact leaf
#

It updated again!

distant roost
#

Yeah the new update's great, not only do the paper dolls look neat, a full list imports to TTS in like 30 seconds and the rest is just grabbing ammo tokens

sudden halo
#

oh nice! i picked up a core set when ignition core got the un stuff in stock (and i realized the mechs were a great size for mobile arms frames), so i've been reading the rules for OP

umbral prawn
#

Pilot text is still not readable, though

orchid tulip
#

Iirc I need to delete my cache to "update" the list buiilder, right?

distant roost
#

Yeah clearing cookies and doing a hard refresh with CTRL+F5 would be the recommendation if it's not showing up new

orchid tulip
#

The Ctrl+F5 fixed it for me

#

They still haven't updated Onyx's text....

distant roost
# umbral prawn Pilot text is still not readable, though

I mentioned this to the app dev over on the Ember: OP Discord and the dev is working on making the text easier to read so hopefully this should be better soon
Edit: looks like the update is to add outlines to the text, that was a fast update!

distant roost
orchid tulip
#

But that is very minor

distant roost
compact leaf
#

Still no combined PDF though..

tepid steeple
#

Sooon

#

Tm

compact leaf
#

We’d also like to share two very important details: from now on, the unit profile information published in the official CorvuSphere app takes priority over printed cards. Additionally, the team is still working on the unified version of the rulebook, which is now in its final editing and translation phase.

#

!!!!

#

There it is!!

tepid steeple
#

Mm

#

I think a lot of the corvus sphere updates were fixes for this too

#

Some of them are changes though

#

I think

compact leaf
#

There are indeed a few changes

twin mountain
#

oh thank god

#

we're close

autumn sun
signal orbit
#

Marcher mention!

#

I love GDG's kits

autumn sun
#

They look neat!

signal orbit
#

Their Commander's Armory stl pack has been super useful for kitbashing my WW1-inspired sci-fi soldiers

#

A collection of all the small arms and other bits of gear for their infantry models, with all of the shells intact for maximum digital kitbashibility

tawny sandal
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Printed a HMMWV and a JLTV and I have approximately a platoon’s-worth of lil hotdog soldiers on the way

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So that’s cool

tawny sandal
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Also, does anyone have any recommendations on a primer color for US army vehicle desert tan?

ocean holly
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Pink

tawny sandal
ocean holly
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Only half joking

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i know pink is a good prime for yellow, which tan is similar to, and also

tawny sandal
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I mean, fun history thing, one of the noted differences between the original CADPAT design and MARPAT is that MARPAT removed the tiny pink part

tawny sandal
ocean holly
fallen rune
tawny sandal
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Oh, I more was wondering what brand y’all recommend

twin mountain
umbral prawn
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Game!
I really want to play more, but can't until December

tepid steeple
# twin mountain

I read this and played through the ‘exercises’ from the book on tts its pretty cool

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Team plays are pretty dope

twin mountain
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ooh there are exercises?

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@forest pier btw temporal I'd love to take your help with some basic scripting for a game I'm making

ocean holly
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ASL has been Got!!!!

stable pelican
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played MCP with Web Warriors

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against brotherhood of mutants

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i won 19-16

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round 2 i spent 2 tactics (clean up (peter parker and flash thompson to gain each others passive) + masked menace)

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i web swinged amazing spiderman into the enemies and attacked magneto for energy. after i done that i spent 3 energy for webbed up which made me slowed all his characters

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and dazed magneto, angel and toad in the same turn but lost gwenom

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it was a really tough game for my opponent

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but rngesus decided

celest root
hollow slate
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Trench Crusade got a 1.01 update, a lot of fixes, including to Iron Sultanate stuff

twin mountain
hollow slate
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At work, so I haven't been able to look at it, but from what I understand it was mostly fixes

distant roost
hollow slate
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It specifically does, yes

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And several other Sultanate gear got fixed, like allowing the assassins dagger to let you use a dash to retreat, allowing the assassins to properly hit and run

echo marten
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I hope there's a change log, I'd really prefer not to do a 1:1 comparison

autumn sun
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The 1.0 probably got shipped to the printers already too.

hollow crypt
hollow slate
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How it works now is a flamethrower will go through alchemical armor modifier, but gets -1 damage dice and no extra blood markers

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Though I'd need to read the rules text to clarify that last part, the "negate fire" part may be ignored, but hey

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Also pistols are back to using ranged stats when in melee, so gunslinger alchemists are back on the menu

autumn sun
echo marten
hollow slate
# echo marten I hope there's a change log, I'd really prefer not to do a 1:1 comparison
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Community has one going

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Color-coded based on what is doing the changes, main text is for 1.0

twin mountain
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😬

hollow slate
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Not that I've found

twin mountain
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I think I'm gonna just have to leave trench crusade in the "devs are not cooking" bucket for now and wait on it to stabilize a lot more

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Unfortunate

compact leaf
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That's.. yeah..

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My local scene is planning a campaign and I've declared my interest, but I'm holding off on actually touching the game until the rules are in a better spot

tawny sandal
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I think it’ll probably end up fine, but it’s sucks for the official launch to be this much of a mess

hollow slate
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I guess I'm the opposite, where the fixes give me back the desire to play

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I already knew how much the launch fucked up, and was just waiting for the mess to be cleaned up

twin mountain
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I have friends who play smash bros and oh my god I will never play smash bros

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never seen a more hostile dev team in my life. game makers actively hate you and want you to stop playing and will send hit squads against any sufficiently large mass of players in the same location

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but the game is good I am told

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it's also the big reason I'm kinda waiting on warcrow

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I think warcrow is cooking but they're uh. slow cooking. got that dutch oven going

crude lodge
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what's trench raid?

sounds ww1ish

compact leaf
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I do have to give that team props for understanding that the first rulebook needed significant restructuring

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Just uhh
Making up and entire new rulebook structure from scratch and also translating it into two different languages is time consuming ._.

tepid steeple
twin mountain
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if anything I'm kinda sad i'm too busy to really play mobile arms

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😭

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but hey i'm busy cause i'm making a game so that's nice

modern snow
twin mountain
sudden halo
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Aces seems like a pretty cool engine. I prefer classic to alpha strike but I bet it's pretty easily adaptable.

compact leaf
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And so..
Till arrives at a satellite tournament..

stable pelican
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if i were ever to play Xmen / uncanny X men / X force i will need 3rd party models of the characters to look slavic so it will fit my theme of Russian Xmen (meme)

signal birch
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Trench Crusade: I don't think it is a recent change but Strong no longer letting you one hand ranged weapons makes one of my warbands much less impressive, it made it a lot easier to get the maximum armor stacking on "Strong" units.

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On the other hand, that may be good for game balance

hollow slate
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You just have to have your eye out for shield combo guns

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Though I’m used to Brazen Bull, where all it’s bespoke gear is 1-handed so it’s easy to tack on a shield

sudden halo
tepid steeple
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Good luckkk

compact leaf
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We'll try!

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I'm nerfing myself by playing a faction I've barely played but it'll be fiiine

tepid steeple
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Hehe temper expectations

native portal
signal birch
hollow slate
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Shield combo is one of those things that’s on a per-warband basis; shotguns, SMGs, and assault shotguns usually have them

signal birch
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Yes, but heavy + shield combo is pretty rare 🙂

solemn steeple
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I kind of want to make a hollow knight miniatures game

compact leaf
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End of day 1, we are at 1 win and 2 losses

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Which.. given the handicaps I'm dealing with is exactly how I expected this to go

compact leaf
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Actually I expected this to go worse-

distant roost
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Tournaments are intense! As long as it's fun, that's a win in and of itself!

compact leaf
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My brain..
Mush..

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2 day events hardd

sudden halo
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What's your mission set?

compact leaf
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The last two are tomorrow

sudden halo
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fun! i haven't played many of the new missions, and we played some of them before they were revised to make them make sense

compact leaf
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I think they're neat

sudden halo
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It's really nice not constantly playing unmasking at every event now.

crude lodge
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What game is this?

sudden halo
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Infinity

tawny sandal
tepid steeple
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My local group is running an event next month which is 400 points and youre only allowed one combat group

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Its really difficult to make good lists haha

sudden halo
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TAG city

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I've seen a fan ruleset that's 400 points, majority points must be TAGs that also increases the AVA of the various light TAGs so all factions can participate.

toxic patrol
compact leaf
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Another win and a loss for day 2, my placing remains the exact same

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Second game was just a dice game sadly :(

tepid steeple
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What faction did you play?

compact leaf
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I gotta rejig my lists, it was my first time playing them and I learned a lot

tepid steeple
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Thats pretty good for experience !

sudden halo
compact leaf
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So 2-3 is actually better than I was expecting

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Cause like.
The psychic damage from being in a room with 41+ other people for 8 hours is real, and + new faction + players that were all making the top at the end

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Owie

sudden halo
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It's a really unique experience, and incredibly draining but I love it.

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I did my first one this January and now I do one every 3-4 months now.

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Im about to start prepping again for one, our local satellite rolls back around the last weekend of Jan

compact leaf
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Heck yea

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I think I'd go again
But it is a lot

sudden halo
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I usually take breaks from infinity after each one to play other games for a while to decompress before I prep from the next one.

ocean holly
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What would I need to get into Bolt Action?

tawny sandal
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The rules, a dice bag and dice, 28mm WWII dudes (any source), and either different colored dice or chits to mark suppression and activation

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Oh and different colored dice from your opponent

hollow slate
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I figured out why my Obsidian Protocol playmat seemed so damn large

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Turns out it's because it is actually just bigger than the fold-out board that came with the first wave

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That one is 12x12, the mat is 16 by 16

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So, the entire map, plus two extra on each side

distant roost
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Oh yeah the 12x12 one is 36 inches or so so the full 1200mm super mat is about 4 foot

ocean holly
# tawny sandal Oh and different colored dice from your opponent
Warlord Games US & ROW

With troops drawn not just from the UK but from India, Australia and South Africa, the 8th Army fought back and forth across the Western Desert, eventually ejecting the Axis from the continent. This great bundle includes the Gentleman's War starter set, The British 8th Army, plus a set of ruined adobe building (larger

Warlord Games US & ROW

With the Infamous 88, a Panzer III tank and 30 + men to command this is the German Afrika Korps Starter army you must have! Sent to North Africa to bolster the Axis war effort in the Western Desert, the Deutsches Afrika Korps, under their mercurial leader – Erwin Rommel, the Desert Fox – pushed the armies of the Britis

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Thoughts?

tawny sandal
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Seems reasonable enough, I’ll be honest that I’ve not played much Blot Action

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I recall that Warlord Games has pretty reasonable prices for their kits as far as what you get in them

native portal
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Unless you're gonna make both sides and bring it to your local scene