Like
Normal jumping is supposed to be a straight arc in a given direction
#Indie+Alternative Wargaming
compact leaf
Jet propulsion throws that out the window, you can modify your movement path however you want
echo marten
That's cute. Not a huge deal but nice
compact leaf
Ye
sand sonnet
These are the new plastics from the starter yeah? Steamforged do alright with those?
sleek trail
Technically jet propulsion is how super jump works rn
Lmao
So superjump will be rewritten
trail fulcrum
They're really good to buuld
sleek trail
oh, new warmahordes?
sand sonnet
Plastic sprue warmachine even.
Though Steamforged hasn’t quite made good on their distribution promises for the global community
tepid steeple
WARHORSE???????
clear shadow
Renamed veteran plus it ignores bs attack -x
velvet badge
The hell is immunity enhanced?
tepid steeple
pulzar +1B to replace the shotgun templates I guess
compact leaf
The hell is immunity enhanced?
It's immunity BTS and immunity Arm combined
Basically the same thing as total immunity?
compact leaf
whats combat instinct again?
Ignores surprise attack modifiers
compact leaf
thats so boring for the name :(((
At least it's not bangbomb 🤷
tepid steeple
eh its the same problem
evocative name with boring effect vs useful effect with confusing name
not that veteran isnt useful obv
velvet badge
Ignores surprise attack modifiers
So a worse sixth sense?
compact leaf
not that veteran isnt useful obv
Warhorse is actually useful, it ignores those BS -3 mods you've been seeing everywhere
compact leaf
So a worse sixth sense?
It's the part of sixth sense that got split off, actually
velvet badge
Oh shit, didn't realize sixth sense got broken up
compact leaf
Yeye
Only into two pieces afaik though
...which are sixth sense and combat instinct
velvet badge
I wonder if inspiring leadership will change at all?
signal orbit
Played a game of Grimdark Future: Firefight with wife! She used the custom armybook I wrote for her Gellerpox Mutants kill team and she returned the favour by extending my streak of never beating that team across systems! 
Had a blast though, a lone Infantry squad model survived a charge and killed her leader on the retaliation, and Brother Large the ogryn finally saw play!
tepid steeple
that sounds fun!
sleek trail
s5 but only with a chain-colt lmao
tepid steeple
what was your team like?
signal orbit
My Human Defense Force team (based on the Imperial Guard) had a commander who orders people to shoot better, two three-man conscript squads, two veterans with meltaguns, an ogryn, and a three-man infantry squad with a medic and boltgun.
My wife took an ability on her leader that has a chance to force enemies to move in a direction of her choice, so the leader immediately got pulled forwards and charged to death by multiple mutants and bugs. They tried valiantly to hold the line and managed to kill both of the big scary mutants, but the fight was a lost cause.
tepid steeple
ooh nice
orchid tulip
The drop feed of N5 rules
echo marten
Hmm...not much aleph in the sightings.
compact leaf
Apparently they're gonna get a lot of new stuff
pearl knot
vibrates intesnely
autumn sun
https://www.patreon.com/posts/double-tap-game-116853479 Fragged Empire miniature game eh
next pilot
what are the factions
autumn sun
Doesn't say.
haughty bobcat
The dragon looks so cool
twin mountain
Oooh
https://store.steampowered.com/app/404200/WARTILE/ wartile is 75% off
I'm crossposting it here since it's one of those digital miniature wargame things
potent wyvern
probably an extremely dumb question but what is maleghast like
Its honestly got more dna with something like xcom than most other skirmish games
potent wyvern
Yeah
fallen rune
I’m not super experienced with it but it’s kind of unusual feeling for me because it’s grid based on a very constrained map
twin mountain
yeah recently I tried godtear and I love it actually
so maybe I want to play more tiny chess games
fallen rune
So maneuvers are limited and there’s a lot of “short ranged space control”
potent wyvern
It straight up has the xcom cover system
potent wyvern
so maybe I want to play more tiny chess games
Yeah its good tiny chess
8x8 means the action happens very fast
Though people do experiment with different sized maps
It is very much your standard tactics game tho. Playing around cover/elevation. Controlling space with unit screening and etc. lots of interesting utility options which you would expect out of a tom game
I think the big thing that makes maleghast “maleghast” is the Soul system, which is its take on command points
Its a built in comeback mechanic and adds an interesting element of unit expendability
twin mountain
do tell
echo marten
Delicious souls
potent wyvern
You also get one at the start of the round past the first
Your necromancer (your hero unit) can spend this for a bunch of extra abilities
Soul abilities dont cost an action but you can only do one once a turn
Its extremely well designed. You want your dudes to die so you can get your cool powers off, so it helps curbs general turtling
Stuff be happening every round in maleghast, even the first one
echo marten
And it means if you're getting your ass kicked you can get a bit of a boost to stop the game being 'well, I can't recover from this, gg'
potent wyvern
Yeah
And adds some fun decisioning making of like “hey, do i slay this dude to remove it off the board, knowing that it will give the operator access to double tap?”
Its cool
The other thing maleghast has going for it is really strong and distinct faction design
Theres pretty much something for everyone here. You give me a faction in some other game and i guarantee theres a maleghast equivalent for you
And their rules are pretty simple
twin mountain
sounds great tbh
it's weird how hard it is to find information on maleghast
like it's just dragonkid's videos on the internet
everyone keeps making stuff about the lore but there aren't that many actual plays
potent wyvern
And their rules are pretty simple
They get 2-3 unique tags thats it, but they do alot with what little they have
echo marten
Theres pretty much something for everyone here. You give me a faction in some ot...
I like Healing and Defence. What's the most defensive faction? 😛
potent wyvern
I like Healing and Defence. What's the most defensive faction? 😛
You are looking for abhorrers
potent wyvern
Ye!
Id be down to show you the ropes winged
(Unfortunately that means you will have to play on roll20)
echo marten
I'm a big fan of defensive play but so many games don't like to support it because it's 'boring' and 'nobody else is having fun' and 'we were supposed to be done an hour ago iki' 😛
potent wyvern
These guys are tanky elite boys
The got big survivability and scale with round number, in exchange of a weaker early game
echo marten
Oh, I can see how smite gets scary
Lategame the zealot is blitzing about and smashing everything
potent wyvern
Ye
There’s also Deadsouls, which is another defensive faction but they are more control oriented
Kinda like a black/blue deck
echo marten
Yeah, I can see how these guys really scale up into silliness (But also how early game they've got issues)
Inquisitor spending multiple turns winching to punch a shot through even a really tough guy
potent wyvern
Yeah
Lemme pull up the tyrant and necro
Necro’s are highly customizable
You get a free act and soul ability from the upgrade list, and can take more by spending dark power (upgrade points)
Those can also be spent on unit upgrades
potent wyvern
Yeah they out
Uhhhhhhh
I have thoughts on Steeplewrack
They are very feast or famine
echo marten
Right so you get one Alexander Anderson and his Cool Holy Sword Tricks.
potent wyvern
Yeah
Maleghast really lets itself well to blorbofication
Here’s mine and a friend of mine’s necros
echo marten
He looks like a Real Scary Beatstick.
potent wyvern
The exorcist’s main gameplan is playing support early game and hitting you with the power of god and anime late game
They are a fun faction, especially since update 2
echo marten
Nice
I also feel slightly attacked that I somehow ended up picking the Most Catholic Faction despite the fact I was asking about mechanics first 😛
potent wyvern
Lmao
Anyway ikiryo, if you are ever down to learn the game im basically free whenever
echo marten
Sadly not at 3am but I'll remember that! Thanks
sleek trail
aren't there channels for maleghast
tepid steeple
I think the reason it was brought up here is winged wanted to know opinions on it from a wargamer perspective
while the dominant discourse for maleghast has been people introduced to the space by it
aiui
potent wyvern
yeah sry lol
potent wyvern
absolute degenerates
sleek trail
not a big deal i was just very confused lmao
tepid steeple
tag pilots stuffs
tepid steeple
I think -3 means that he transmutes when reduced to 1
which does mean if he goes unconscious a 2w doctor can bring him to 2 wounds while staying in his mi state seemingly
compact leaf
4 STR/VITA is still unheard of
I can't think of anything that's that durable
Maybe this'll be normal for heavy TAGs in N4
who knows??
And new models
tepid steeple
I think it's inline with iguana
which will also be 4 str/vita in the new system
transmute at -2
compact leaf
See
He's also got immunity ARM is the thing
tepid steeple
scaryy
compact leaf
And he's unhackable
echo marten
Also: He's a TAG who doesn't suck at dodging.
tepid steeple
oh is that what immunity (pos)? is?
positronic
right
he does still die to e/m melee!
compact leaf
Oh
True
It's immunity possession
compact leaf
In N4 is the same, so that's just carrying over
Still
He's less hackable
Extremely durable piece all things considered
echo marten
+2B, -1 SR Thunderbolt seems solid. That said: I'm still trying to get the hang of SR
echo marten
I'm fairly certain is the same damage as an HMG
nods
So 'okay for a tag' ranged firepower but not really anything super notable. The notability is in that endurance.
compact leaf
Indeed
Doesn't have AP ammo or anything, he looks like he's made to mulch medium infantry
And anything without martial arts in CC
tepid steeple
his phys is quite good for a tag but still lower than the 16 he's using for melee
echo marten
And occasionally evaporate something that gets within reach of that melee.
...oh hey, he keeps the +2B Thunderbolt when he's reduced to Infantry Mode.
compact leaf
Yuhuh
Doesn't really lose any lethality
He becomes a specialist too
Not that wip13 is anything to write home about
tepid steeple
tag pilots stuffs
but yeah as another thing; those tag pilot profiles seem to be for an (alternate?) use of tag pilot models as backup consulting tag pilots
that give tags in your force buffs
like the jsa tag pilot buddy gives them +3 dodge
and he also carries a +1 gizmokit
echo marten
Welcome New Achilles, since they stole Previous Achilles.
orchid tulip
His melee seems to get slightly worse in melee, going from PS4 to PS6
echo marten
poor man 'only' hits like a Missile Launcher Direct Hit when out of his armour
orchid tulip
I didn't say he hits bad, just slightly worse
orchid tulip
his phys is quite good for a tag but still lower than the 16 he's using for mele...
Doesn't he have 18 for CC? 24-6=18
tepid steeple
oh I mean damage
orchid tulip
Ah
orchid tulip
He hits worse while meaty, loosing 1 CC
Will that 1 CC even matter 90% of the time?
compact leaf
Yeah max is CC 24
Any negative modifiers in the game only apply to the opponent in FTF rolls
echo marten
With NBW backing it up to deny martial arts, I doubt it.
compact leaf
NBW only stops the negative effects of MA now though, right?
orchid tulip
Do we have any info on the N5 drop yet, besides "December"
compact leaf
Not really
I think we can expect the drop around next week though, they said they were aiming for before Christmas
Also
I think this is their release schedule for the 'essentials' line
Here's what's in those first two army packs
orchid tulip
So JSAs is just a smaller version of the Faction pack, and thus splitting the Major from Batou
compact leaf
Seems that way
Will probably be pretty cheap compared to new stuff though
A shame it's Batouless...
compact leaf
echo marten
Warhorse?
tepid steeple
maggie lost her pilot :((((
the robot isnt even silhouette 2
hopefully sword of allah pilots are a decent tagcom buff
compact leaf
Warhorse?
What Wren said
Plus it ignores those BS attack (-3) traits we're seeing everywhere
sleek trail
I dont like how pilots are all rems now unless you buy one
cyan badge
I wonder if that's goign to be true for Ariadna as well
tepid steeple
deployable cover seems fun
specially with sapper basically only existing on one shavastii now
seems to be a lot of 'no it's okay you can have a template' pulzars
compact leaf
O-12 said you can have one, just in case
echo marten
Oooh, Sophotech's got a lot more shinies.
I also really like the option for them to now just put down a TF2 Engineer turret
compact leaf
Now I finally have a reason to take them over a MK1 engineer
echo marten
They're one of my favorite units in the game, so I'm always happy to see them get a boost.
But man, that's a hell of a boost. Really going 'Look, we should clarify: These are the best doctor/engineer about'. XD
pearl knot
+1B medkits and an engineer re-reoll? Without even a cost hike? Yeah, someone really wanted to point at their rep and ahem meaningfully
echo marten
Deployable cover is a nice callback to earlier versions of them where they had that Nanobarrier rule that got cut because people were sick of moving the nanobarrier cover marker about every time the model moved.
twin mountain
stable pelican
compact leaf
I was sooooo tempted to post that
orchid tulip
I like Priya Harpers model, but it feels more like on the way to the gym than combatant in an active sphere of war
compact leaf
I like Priya Harpers model, but it feels more like on the way to the gym than co...
I'm getting the impression she might be a Minescorp(?) worker instead of an actual soldier.
Cause Jackals and Magistrates are that as well
orchid tulip
Maybe
compact leaf
...well
She's perpetually undercover?
Magistrates are also part of the BCA (Bureau of Colonial Affairs)
So... Only Jackals are Minescorp?
Aha
Found Jackals
compact leaf
I'd take a better one if I owned the book :b
That was copypasted from the forum
velvet badge
New father knights? And montessa's on foot?
compact leaf
Guess so
We've actually known about the Father Knights for a while though
I wonder when we'll see their profile
Guess we gotta wait for the game to release?
sleek trail
GIVE ME N5
sleek trail
MONDAY
tepid steeple
i think ft master is technically an old rule?
its just being moved from the fireteam chart to the profile?
tepid steeple
cause its like, a thing taksmasters do for morlock fire teams
compact leaf
morats have that right now in N4
same thing for taskmasters yeah
they just never formally gave it a name
tepid steeple
mm
inspiring leadership's thing with irregulars kinda confuses me
cause pano dont really have many
and I dont think military orders has any
so its kinda weird that its like 'ah yes she inspired news reporters to act with military discipline'
compact leaf
Yeah i dunno why Joan has always had inspiring leadership when PanO barely has any notable irregulars
but I mean
Jackals exist now, so there's that
tepid steeple
the coordinated order stuff is very cool ofc
compact leaf
yeye!
pearl knot
Yeah i dunno why Joan has always had inspiring leadership when PanO barely has a...
It's funny with tech-bees/beasthunters/helots tho.
velvet badge
Yeah i dunno why Joan has always had inspiring leadership when PanO barely has a...
It's so frenzy isn't a problem on the knights
echo marten
That's the deal with Jackels? 'angry miners with guns'?
compact leaf
It's so frenzy isn't a problem on the knights
Ish
They're apparently kinda criminal adjacent based on their lore?
Oh oops
Wrong reply
orchid tulip
I can buy that knights are criminal adjacent tho
orchid tulip
Tech bee?
compact leaf
Yeah
Tech bee :)
tepid steeple
named after the us navy engineers calling themselves sea bees
cause bees build stuff
orchid tulip
Don't know all units nor abilities so had to look up what it was
tepid steeple
oh also cause Construction Battallion = C B = Sea Bee
compact leaf
Don't know all units nor abilities so had to look up what it was
In your defense, you don't really see them taken very often in lists
supple shale
I’m torn about Tech Bees because on one hand I am the “Seabees mentioned” wojack at any reference but also the models are the worse cheesecake trash and also they don’t build shit!
sleek trail
monday is what they say
pearl knot
I’m torn about Tech Bees because on one hand I am the “Seabees mentioned” wojack...
The cheesecake is... somewhat excusable, to be fair.
Or... Huh. Maybe not, actually.
I could've sworn tech bees were a commemorative model from a long time ago, before Infinity changed its design ethos for female moulds, but apparently they're still selling a version of them that's in the same outfit?
compact leaf
It's quite egregious
pearl knot
It is
I was more willing to excuse it when I thought it was a limited run commemorative model from a different era.
compact leaf
I expect them to get a new sculpt for N5 though, not anytime soon though I'm thinking
echo marten
The funny thing is that the tech bee model has one of my favorite aspects in design. The big exoskeleton arm is cool. I just kinda wish the rest of the model was cool. XD
Pity about the other 95% of the model
supple shale
I could've sworn tech bees were a commemorative model from a long time ago, befo...
There’s a Bootleg version too, I think; that’s the over the top titty figure scenic base line
But the regular sculpt is just extremely Like That
trail fulcrum
Obsidian Protocol is in the shop now!
sleek trail
i expect the new tech bee to also be horny
twin mountain
Ooh
compact leaf
ITS HEREEEEE
LOOK AT THIS MAN
BIG ROBOT GOT A HUGE GLOWUP
And he's remote presence 
compact leaf
..wait I think he always was
BUT STILL
Hmmm
All my N4 lists have like 30-40 extra points to work with
So things on average have gone down in cost
orchid tulip
Non of my lists work anymore, as they removed my go to lieutenant from vanilla Nomads
compact leaf
I don't think we should play the game like we played N4 anyways
It looks like pieces that were lethal got more lethal, pieces that were durable got more durable
Etc
And Thyreos finally has camo like I wanted :3
tepid steeple
so aiui tag pilots being a buff guy has fully replaced pilots being in tags?
compact leaf
I guess?
orchid tulip
How does this look as a first pass?
compact leaf
How does this look as a first pass?
Well at first glance, there isn't anything you can put together into a fireteam
Did you want to make use of the Haris you get to have?
compact leaf
ML or HMG?
ML is good in ARO, especially surprise attack stuff, HMG is great on attack pieces. Both are great in fireteams
Pick whichever you think you need in your list, really.
orchid tulip
Went with HMG. If I understand correctly I can make a Harris with the three at the top
compact leaf
Uhhh not the grenzer, that's in the first Fireteam pool
orchid tulip
compact leaf
You basically choose a type of fireteam (ex: nomad fireteams 1), then you can pick from the pool shown below the type
Oh
I misread
Grenzer is in both
Wwwoops
But uh
One more thing for your group 1.
I'd recommend you get a unit or two more with a pitcher in there, since you're leaning into the expensive named Nomad hackers
You can also just grab a couple flash bots with repeaters and put them in the second group
They'll be good setting up the defensive part of your hacking net
compact leaf
Flash bots?
Every faction has access to the same suite of remotes (I call them bots though)
One of them has a flash pulse, in your case it would be a Transductor Zond
They're cheap and extremely useful for generating defensive hacking nets and cheap regular orders
But uh
Yeah that looks fine
You might want to split it into 2 groups and add the aforementioned flash bot to one of them though, you have exactly enough points for one
orchid tulip
Doesn't groups lock orders to the group the generator is in
compact leaf
Yeah it does
But you can still fit another order in with the Transductor Zond
It'll just have to be in a different group
And they're uhh
Usually not an amazing way to spend an order
So you want to have something else in the group with it, preferably more than one thing
orchid tulip
compact leaf
Yeaaaahhh
orchid tulip
Current list. It's at 290 atm
compact leaf
Oh
Nvm
You don't have any SWC for their options
Could make them a forward observer though
orchid tulip
No SWC left and would need to find another Lieutenant
compact leaf
Move the LT somewhere else is the problem, yeah
Mobile Brigada LT?
That'd lose the HMG though..
compact leaf
Hmm
Okay
I think a Salyut Zond is the play then
Oh I see, another Transductor works as well
Did you have a mission in mind for this btw?
compact leaf
Okey dokey
orchid tulip
Does Repeaters only work from within their group?
orchid tulip
I have 3 pitchers, 4 rem repeaters and 6 flash pulses
compact leaf
You're going to be extremely annoying for anything hackable or that has low BTS lol
orchid tulip
Hopefully that is what my friends will bring then
Switching one FlashZond for a Salyut might be a good move, to as I do have a bit of Disposable stuff
compact leaf
Yeye, baggage is always useful
Plus that'll be less unused points if you invest in an Evo hacker to buff your mobile Brigada hacking defenses up
orchid tulip
Only Evo Hacker available to me is the 14 point Salyut
So I'd have to replace something else in addtion to a flashZond for that
stable pelican
i just finished painting the dudes for my escalaiton force (3 out of 8 painted) and based them, now gonna launch helldivers 2 so my pc fan can dry the basing quicker
sleek trail
tepid steeple
is super jump msv
echo marten
Super jump is mimitism.
tepid steeple
i dont think it is
super jump exposes you to more fire no
but it does let you reduce the penalty of not having line of sight
orchid tulip
Found a typo in the N5 rules
Also, why are there units with TacAw without NCO or the ability to be in a fireteam?
From what I can tell there is no way to use a tac order without being in a fireteam
compact leaf
From what I can tell there is no way to use a tac order without being in a firet...
You can use it no matter what
It's just that typically you couldn't use an irregular (see: not regular) order to activate a Fireteam, that's what it clarifies with the third bullet point
A more direct answer:
Yes you can use a tactical awareness order outside of a fireteam.
You can also use NCO outside of a Fireteam as well (it uses wording that clarifies that you can use a lieutenant order to activate a fireteam, which you normally couldn't do without breaking it)
orchid tulip
So, TacAws tac order is basically just an extra order but it has some limits?
compact leaf
So, TacAws tac order is basically just an extra order but it has some limits?
It doesn't have any limits, really
You can use it like a regular order on the trooper it's assigned to most of the time
orchid tulip
But can you use it on another unit?
compact leaf
No
orchid tulip
That's a limit
compact leaf
That's the one limit it's got, yeah
orchid tulip
Ok
compact leaf
We assumed you meant like
Whether or not it could do the same things as any other order would if it were used on the trooper
But yeah, it's assigned to one trooper in particular. Besides that you treat it like any other order
orchid tulip
Been working on this today. ORCs, Oktavia and Fusilier in a Core. Nisses and Machinist in a Harris. Torn between a pair of flashbots or a TechBee for my last points
compact leaf
I'd grab the flashbots, unless you plan on making space for another Jotum
I'd really recommend getting a Karhu Feuerbach in there somewhere as well
They're really good
PanO stuff is sorta funky in that you can build a bit more freely since they're the guns faction that's built around killing stuff more than doing the objective
echo marten
I'm going to need to check out how ALEPH changed. I do like the Sophotech update so far.
tepid steeple
makhe are tacaware instead of nco now
echo marten
...I wonder what the cheapest tacaware model is. Most things I've seen with it are more on the expensive end. It would be fun to see some amount of 'No, you have to get some use out of this Basic Guy because he gets some Just For Him orders' that are not impetuous.
compact leaf
Maybe the combi rifle bots?
Yeah it is, then after that it's Blade-Ops, then a few profiles all over the place around 22 points
trail fulcrum
I'm going to need to check out how ALEPH changed. I do like the Sophotech update...
I'm sad they merged the MK3 and 4 posthumans
tepid steeple
kusanagi's sword got buffed. and her cc
she's still pretty bad at it but yeah
a lot less nco in general. like in phalanx its just eudoros and alke
orchid tulip
They buff my girl and then lock her behind Bakunin exclusive?
orchid tulip
Just as a quick check, all of them having (Reverend) means that they count as the same "unit" right?
orchid tulip
Good
tepid steeple
seems immunity(arm/bts) is partially restoring the bioimmunity interaction
so like yara got +1 armour and immunity(arm)
tepid steeple
triangulated fire got buffed but haqq's red fury sensor bot lost it :(
orchid tulip
What was old TriFire?
orchid tulip
How does this one look? A Reverend Core team and a Riot Grrls Harris to move up as groups to harass/eliminate targets, Zoe and her flashBots set up as defensive hacking network and try to take Objectives, and having the SinEater as an ARO overlooking the field to lock down the enemy a bit?
compact leaf
Oh my god he's already going crazy
https://youtu.be/q_rHGPcTav4?si=5kg6qCL2bu6EMoB6
velvet badge
I'm hyper tempted to do the Khapu Qulqi tag core
tepid steeple
What was old TriFire?
used to be -3 but now is just a flat roll
pearl knot
Oh that's some... very sad things to hear about ALEPH.
echo marten
Oh that's some... very sad things to hear about ALEPH.
...how bad we talking?
pearl knot
They lost access to a bunch of profiles - most Steel Phalanx characters are now SP-only, for instance, so your LT options are extremely predictable, it's basically Marut, Asura, Deva, Yadu.
compact leaf
Mhm, no more vanilla Aleph characters everywhere
echo marten
...wait, vanilla can't get SP?
...fuck
SP is like 90% of the releases they've given ALEPH since it came out
compact leaf
They still have some SP access; myrmidons, Hippolyta, Pentheslia, K2, Ekdromoi, Agema, Thyreos
But uh
Yeah
echo marten
Yeah but...christ.
compact leaf
Only two of them are characters lol
Behold
Your new faction
Vanilla isn't a grab bag of all the good stuff anymore
Almost universally
echo marten
I genuinely might not be able to run a vanilla ALEPH army any more. XD
pearl knot
Same
echo marten
Which is a problem as an aleph player.
pearl knot
Guess it's a good thing I remembered yuan yuan's when i did...
compact leaf
I'm in the boat of never having done so ever, so I'm.. just fine
And Kestrel came out :3
echo marten
Well, okay: I can but it's basicly 'Marut or Asura LT' as the Devas I own are mostly for the special weapon devas, not the LT one
compact leaf
You don't proxy them?
echo marten
I could but I'd rather not. I like people to be able to know what weapons a model has looking at it. XD
...oh and the Marut got worse. Yay.
compact leaf
I wish I could do it but I don't have money to spend on even more models haha...
echo marten
Christ Infinity. If you're going to make vanilla not the 'grabbag of good stuff' option, maybe remember you havn't actually given vanilla ALEPH a model since the faction came out. XD
compact leaf
...oh and the Marut got worse. Yay.
Isn't it the exact same?
Well
And the new extra CC burst
It costs like 10 points less now too
But besides that I can't actually see any differences
compact leaf
Christ Infinity. If you're going to make vanilla not the 'grabbag of good stuff'...
Has any faction besides CA gotten a vanilla exclusive model?
echo marten
...ah man.
They took away my main Agema profile
They now get Hidden Deployment + Surprise Attack + Sniper Rifle or Camouflage + Missile Launcher.
I liked the Hidden Deployment + Missile Launcher Profile
compact leaf
Yeaaah
Is a shame to see it go
But camouflage missile launcher still isn't terrible
echo marten
Has any faction besides CA gotten a vanilla exclusive model?
It's more than ALEPH has only 2 subfactions and only one of them is a real subfaction. XD
compact leaf
echo marten
SSS is basicly 'I dunno, non-greek stuff goes here'
echo marten
But Vanilla ALEPH is now also 'non-greek aleph'
compact leaf
I did hear whisperings of yet more Aleph stuff coming so..
We may see some new stuff
pearl knot
SSS is basicly 'I dunno, non-greek stuff goes here'
Bizarrely, OSS is apparently in better shape than SP.
compact leaf
How so?
pearl knot
You'd have to check the vid for details, it is sleepy time
echo marten
...wait...how does Aleph not get Parvati?
compact leaf
You'd have to check the vid for details, it is sleepy time
Ah, the 5 hour tierlist vid
I'm almost at the Aleph part
tepid steeple
Has any faction besides CA gotten a vanilla exclusive model?
saladin I guess
compact leaf
Dang
Rob says vanilla Aleph is right at the bottom of the list so far 
compact leaf
Problem
tepid steeple
if theyre gonna know anyway might as well have strategos and counterintelligence
compact leaf
Vanilla Aleph doesn't have those Shukras
compact leaf
Nerp
compact leaf
Mhm
tepid steeple
still a chain of command option I suppose
compact leaf
And you don't get the crazy OSS Asura hacker LT so it really feels like your option is just to take the Marut or a Deva
echo marten
I may just end up playing OSS as my Primary Faction
As I love the Asura Hacker and well...OSS gets the Hacker LT
compact leaf
I will be crying in the corner now that Eudoros is Hackable ;-;
Surely it's not a big deal though
I can just throw Hippolyta in there instead
tepid steeple
also cant get rid of limited cover anymore
compact leaf
Mhm...
All my centrepieces are gonna be waaaay easier to see
But Agamemnon is crazy now so maybe it's okay
tepid steeple
i was looking at zuyongs and why is zuyong hmg only available in a pack with two models you already have if you have any zuyongs
who are also characters
echo marten
I know the Ariadna player I know is real salty that Vanilla Ariadna lost it's one non-merc hacker. XD
trail fulcrum
How's oss
echo marten
Looks a fair bit better thant he rest of ALEPH. Basicly everything you'd want from Vanilla + Some other toys.
compact leaf
Mhm
We think OSS is the only Aleph faction that didn't come out of this with some issues they didn't have before
Vanilla is suffering really hard though
echo marten
Vanilla doesn't really have much identity I feel.
When OSS is already 'The non-greek parts of Aleph'
And vanilla is already shy most of the greek
left onyx
Oh my god he's already going crazy
https://youtu.be/q_rHGPcTav4?si=5kg6qCL2bu6EM...
Strength tier list, or some subjective factor on how much he likes them?
echo marten
Strength tier list, or some subjective factor on how much he likes them?
How well they came out of the transition between editions.
left onyx
Oh neat
compact leaf
*with not a lot of N5 experience yet, obv
echo marten
ALEPH for example got rated very lowly because they've got like 3 LT options right now
And all they're super obvious
compact leaf
Rob is a pretty prominent competitive player in the community though, I mostly trust his judgements
left onyx
SMH how many Lieuteanants do you really need, when you think about it?
echo marten
It would be nice to have one that isn't 'I immediately know who your LT is' 😛
compact leaf
One for each round of the game :)
echo marten
But ALEPH for some reason doesn't get Asura Hacker LTs.
Even though they get Asuras and Asura Hackers and Asura LTs.
So if you see an Asura without a hacking device, it's 100% the LT. XD
left onyx
Okay I was gonna say if they didn't have Asura LTs that wouldn't be that weird, but...
echo marten
The issue is that it ALEPH right now lost a lot of units for Story-Related Reasons, without replacement and Vanilla ALEPH ended up sorta this weird nothing of a faction because OSS is already 'non-myrmidon aleph units'
So Vanilla ALEPH, having lost most of the Greek units...
Is basicly just 'OSS with less toys'
compact leaf
Mhm mhm
echo marten
They also lost a lot of unit loadouts that were really fun before.
Like the Agema Marksman lost their Hidden Deployment Missile Launcher loadout.
compact leaf
I have to wonder how come they didn't at least get Hector
I think I'm still gonna be taking that Agema ML though
Maybe with a Thyreos and a mine next to it so it can't just get discovered
echo marten
Decided to take a shot at an N5 list that is mostly 'stuff Iki wants to test out with the adjustments'. XD
Some Dakini in a Fireteam with a Remdriver to push them to the limit, the upgraded Sophotech, Proxies and the Asura Hacker LT. It's not a good list but it should let me try stuff out.
compact leaf
What's the Yadu doing on its own?
echo marten
Filling out points/I've never used a Disco Baller before 😛
compact leaf
Ahhh, I see I see
...oh my gosh it's the only thing with a disco baller in the whole faction
echo marten
Yep.
Or Eclipse Grenades.
So if OSS wants Eclipse Templates, that Yadu profile is what I've got. XD
...wait, do we no longer have any models with smoke grenades in the entire faction? Not even Eclipse Grenades, smoke?
Yeah, it's down to 'myrmidons' for smoke grenades.
trail fulcrum
How to play oss?
compact leaf
How to play oss?
I think you either take a Marut or Asura LT hacker, and then leverage your access to tacbots and posthumans.
compact leaf
Probably want an EVO hacker or two in there to buff your REMs
compact leaf
Mk3 seems to be gone tho
Yeah 
Also
Take anything I say about OSS with a grain of salt, cause I don't play them
trail fulcrum
I just want lady spitfire
orchid tulip
I hope my playgroup can nail a date between Christmas and NYE for a day of N5
I've brewed up 5 decks, but I have no idea of how they'll perform when played
tepid steeple
im going to an intro game on Saturday
orchid tulip
Should probs look into making a smaller list to get a grip on N5 rules
compact leaf
Ye, we're running through 150s with our friends to try out all the new goodies
cyan badge
I know the Ariadna player I know is real salty that Vanilla Ariadna lost it's on...
Hi it's me I'm the ariadna player and it isn't just vanilla the entire faction is hackerless again (sans wardrivers)
even kosmoflot, the 'high tech' sectorial, is stuck with wardrivers for hackers
echo marten
even kosmoflot, the 'high tech' sectorial, is stuck with wardrivers for hackers
Kosmoflop. XD
cyan badge
the good news is that i can still do this, at least.
compact leaf
even kosmoflot, the 'high tech' sectorial, is stuck with wardrivers for hackers
I'm so sorry friend
CB hit Ariadna the hardest 🫂
cyan badge
Oh I got it worse than a lot of ariadna players, too
I played CHA and FRRM......
there's at least some fun looking kosmoflot lists I've managed to put together. USARF and TAK don't really appeal to me that much, though.
and vanilla still lets me do a blank courtesy list
(I also played NCA from PanO too so, lol, lmao)
at least my haqq army was QK, so I'll eat good there?
compact leaf
I'm so glad I bought into Kestrel
They have so many cool things
velvet badge
even kosmoflot, the 'high tech' sectorial, is stuck with wardrivers for hackers
Didn't kosmoflot have a named character hacker?
cyan badge
Vanilla/CHA/Kosmo, yeah. Volunteer Intel Isobel McGregor
but she's an old OOP model from like, early N3 dire fores
So she got cut in the move to N5
I am wondering how the wallace/denma/3x varangian core will do. it gets the full core 5 bonus, but it doesn't really apply much utility, either. Not none, but no specialists or anything.
pearl knot
compact leaf
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S_c01UPo8eV1_INlyY2CdAXuE-x_Hv8uhpSlcx6SRZ8/...
Goonhammer also appears to have made one of these
https://www.goonhammer.com/infinity-n5-the-goonhammer-core-rule-review/
clear shadow
My Sandtrap arrived!!
orchid tulip
I wish your wallet a speedy recovery
haughty bobcat
What do people think of the “no recycled models” rule a lot of groups use for narrative campaigns?
Like if you buy a new fighter after the last one died and now need a new model to represent the replacement
compact leaf
I think that's kinda yucky, models are expensive and printing takes a lot of time
Not to mention if you need to ship them from somewhere
I think the only case where I give the okay for that is when you have a ton of spare models to use
sudden halo
I don't mind it for like the Infinity Mercs community ruleset.
Since it's played with 6 models and Infinity is played with 15, so minimum someone has 9 spares.
Really the less models needed to play the more okay it is. The more models needed to play (and thus also the more that may die) the more ridiculous that rule is
orchid tulip
Size of teams and how modular the models are is what might make it okay for me, like Necromunda I can see it but Infinity I am very hesitant
tepid steeple
i think if the whole group is on board its whatever
i feel like the target audience is constantly kitbashing new dudes regardless
compact leaf
We played N5 with our new Kestrel goodies
We now understand how scary having good gunfighters everywhere can be
...but now we have to learn camo and hidden deployment and infiltration
All those things are in the factions we play now!
orchid tulip
In person or digital?
compact leaf
In person or digital?
In person, if it matters
We do play digital sometimes though
Hetkari and Griffins and Back Air (snipers) are cool pieces when used in places they excel, though.
I don't think anyone doubted they would be lol
But we can more or less confirm it!
sudden halo
Yeah, KFC seems pretty nuts. The turret spam is really strong.
On the other hand the new JSA sectorial seems like it needs some time to cook. A few more profiles and such to really get all together. The Hatamoto slaps though, that guy is awesome.
compact leaf
Turret spam very much only works if the map permits it
Making things eat an almost harmless ARO if they want to walk forward is fun though
tepid steeple
played a little n5 and met some local ppl and it was fun
did steel phalanx things
phoenix is very silly. just running around rocket launchering things
wasnt really a serious game but was fun to start to get my head around maneuvering on a full size board etc
tepid steeple
eudoros not getting the cover bs mod even in a fire team was interesting
compact leaf
Eudoros we always took in N4 but we haven't tried his new form out yet
I guess if he doesn't get hit he's okay, but if he does...
Uh oh
What's gonna be weirdest for us is frenzy apparently turning on in fireteams now
compact leaf
All of the things SP wants to have around are probably frenzy or impetuous though (myrmidons, characters)
tepid steeple
i think its still there on myrmidons yeah
compact leaf
Mhm
A lot more things are just straight up impetuous instead of frenzy now
Though there are still only 4 units of each
And Thyreos do what I want them to now...
Building SP has gotten a bit more interesting
tepid steeple
the change to submachine guns has hit a lot of sp though
only penthiselea, thrasymedes, myrmidon officer kept ap
but that's just me adoring thorakitai
feel like when infinity wiki updates playing from a phone will get a lot easier
oh also had a group 2 ekdromos, failed combat jump, and new super jump is definitely a huge mobility boost
compact leaf
Oh my gosh yes
You can just fly in a straight line up a skyscraper now
stable pelican
this orc's color scheme is supposed to be brighter than this but the camera darkened it for some reason
stable pelican
yeah
compact leaf
There we go
I think you did the scheme pretty darn well!
Just...
That picture doesn't have studio lighting is probably what did that
stable pelican
Just...
That picture doesn't have studio lighting is probably what did that
its cause i was painting in a class
classroom light isnt that strong
haughty bobcat
Once again struck with the pain of finding a cool game but having no one to play it with
sleek trail
Do tell
haughty bobcat
well this time it's trench crusade but I keep finding cool little games like turnip28, frostgrave, etc and I can never find a group to play with
everyone wants to stick to the big one
sand sonnet
Sadly the only way to get smaller games going is to get a couple demo forces and just start working with local shops to schedule demos and events for it until others pick it up.
Building a community for a new game is hard work and takes time, otherwise you have to go with the flow.
sand cloak
Along with that, might also have to look around on VTT's.
orchid tulip
For Infinity, am I finding the correct info when there are only 2 S5 units and both are in Haqq?
The 2 being Fasid and Azrail
tepid steeple
nooo
s5 heavy infantry is like a whole archetype
like nomads has kriza bourac, taskmasters, and the penitent
theres a pano one thats very similar silhouette to the penitent too
echo marten
Invincible Army has a few in the Big Suits iirc
echo marten
Or am I missing some posthuman shells?
Possibly? We lost one of them in the transition to N5 (Though I can't recall its loadouts, been a while).
echo marten
Oh right, the Mk3 was the Spitfire one and kinda overshadowed by the HMG one.
echo marten
Messing about with a Silly List. Asura + Shakti + Yadu Fireteam and 'Come on, AVA 2 on REMdrivers doesn't mean you actually need to take two of them'
pearl knot
I approve by default of any Asura lists.
echo marten
BS13 Zayin Rebot/Dakini seems just Funny.
I will say: 6 point netrods feel a bit hard to justify when the 8 point probot exists. Like, neither is exactly a terror but one of them I can actually have Wander About and Avoid Shots Better.
echo marten
That's fair.
orchid tulip
Quick question: Speedball Overkill can give a trooper BS Attack(SR-1), what does this mean?
Like if a weapon with 1 SR gets this, does this mean that it auto wounds ignoring armour?
Am in a game now and it came up
Or is it applied as -1 in the Save Roll, as ARM+PS+Cover-1
sudden halo
Or is it applied as -1 in the Save Roll, as ARM+PS+Cover-1
This one.
It's the new wording for "BS Attack +1 Damage" from N4
orchid tulip
What we have played it as
next pilot
They showed off swamp thing for mcp, for some reason he’s only a three, and doesn’t have bleed immunity
Sorry man thing
trail fulcrum
compact leaf
Here's a question: why not the MK2 hacker?
orchid tulip
TAG peripherals having spec op is neat
compact leaf
I still don't know how it works besides being a campaign version of the game
Having a reasonable lore reason characters can die in-game and then come back as standard is pretty awesome though
cube
compact leaf
Don't have the model currently
Ah, I see. Don't be afraid to proxy though!
The MK 2 hacker is really sweet
Hilariously they made the new pack have both the sniper and the hacker but not any Mk.4 representation
orchid tulip
I still don't know how it works besides being a campaign version of the game
Special Operative?
compact leaf
Oh, that's what you meant
orchid tulip
Ye
compact leaf
I thought you were talking about spec-ops lol
orchid tulip
Nah, the skill. It kinda came up in the game I played in the other day, as all of us barely had enough units to pick up the objectives
compact leaf
Yea
TAGs can do objectives even easier now that the whole thing doesn't have to shut down to unload the little remote
Is pretty neat
Even if it should realistically be your last resort if possible cause uhhh...
WIP 12... (Or 13 if you're Yu-jing)
orchid tulip
I managed to deploy my crab, but didn't get far with it, and it died on my opponents turn
I did manage to snag 2nd place tho (it was a 3 player game).
compact leaf
I did manage to snag 2nd place tho (it was a 3 player game).
Oh, did you play it as a free for all?
orchid tulip
Ye, 1v1v1 Supplies, so we added 1 box to stave of a 3way tie
tepid steeple
maghariba pilot to jandab such a downgrade :((
apart from the ways where it isnt but yknow
tepid steeple
not a great list but it is
one I actually have :)
at 300 anyway
i think it could also be much worse
orchid tulip
Been working on this today. ORCs, Oktavia and Fusilier in a Core. Nisses and Mac...
Used a variant of this list in the 1v1v1, vs JSA and Haqq
compact leaf
Show us pretty please?
orchid tulip
Show what?
orchid tulip
The mod seems to be adding a flashbot
sleek trail
Love a flashbot
twin mountain
https://youtu.be/cUlGfP-cdYU lmao this first minute is too real
supple shale
Heavy Gear not mentioned
compact leaf
I think someone commented on that too, said the game was too old...
Which...
The newest version of blitz is quite a bit newer than Battletech, which was covered?
supple shale
Anecdotally, HG seemed to lose a lot of market share during the transition from Tactical to Blitz! circa 2007
Could be genuinely not knowing that there’s a fairly current edition of Blitz! in service and another on the near horizon
compact leaf
That's what we have to assume
supple shale
Which is a shame because 3.1 Blitz is a much more approachable and enjoyable wargame than Tactical ever was imho
sleek trail
Oh neat its warlore!
Decent fellow
Dont know em too well but good infinity content
autumn sun
Twitter
tepid steeple
kinda surprised they're going with such a small scale game, but I guess it's easier sell
compared to something like titanicus when you're not gw
autumn sun
Yeah.
trail fulcrum
Ahhahaaha
orchid tulip
Kinda wish they were bigger, so I could use them as Tags in Infinity
2 inches is just short of S6 and like half an inch short S7
sudden halo
I love the scale tbh
It looks like it's pretty close to 1:285/1:300 which means Battletech terrain should work.
twin mountain
omg hexes. no measurement. huzzah.
trail fulcrum
Tiny hex board
Hahaha
Worry is it's Bandai
Famous for dropping things for not making megamoney
orchid tulip
But it is Gunpla* so there will some extra from that I think
twin mountain
yeah end of the day i'm just gonna skip it cause I alway skip corporate IP waving projects
but I do appreciate more hex games
twin mountain
trail fulcrum
But it is Gunpla* so there will some extra from that I think
I do joke it's because GW is scaring them
compact leaf
https://global.bandai-hobby.net/en-us/site/gundam-assemble/
We have pictures of apparent matches in progress
I'm getting the impression these will be pretty posable or something? There's pegs on the bases
Scratch that, saw the sprue
autumn sun
Twitter
compact leaf
I just realized the sinanju and unicorn are dual based
orchid tulip
I am guessing multiple peg holes is to allow multiple different poses but only use one base per size
trail fulcrum
https://x.com/DeltyThe73rd/status/1875606081122267393?t=Dy0Z0yeRZ3JgGZis1elLIQ&s...
Unlimited ball works
twin mountain
next pilot
https://youtu.be/cUlGfP-cdYU lmao this first minute is too real
For people at work, what are the games?
twin mountain
For people at work, what are the games?
steel rift, zeo genesis, mobile arms endless destiny
those are the ones that jumped out to me
honestly. mobile arms endless destiny looks really cool.
next pilot
Has more about zeo genesis cane out since announcement?
Huh, they’ve got a proper website now
sleek trail
theres playtest documents
sudden halo
mobile arms is pretty cool, some neat concepts
I've played infinity with the designer a few times, he's a great dude. One of the explicit motivations for the game was to let people get lots of Infinity TAG models on the table
last thing i saw him working on was some 6mm mobile arms sculpts but idk if that was for anything or just for fun
sudden halo
honestly. mobile arms endless destiny looks really cool.
notably its continuous alternating activations with a "cooldown" turn, which I believe is something you're a big fan of
sudden halo
another small indie mech game that wasn't mentioned in the video (its a bit older) is Armor Grid: Mech Attack which seems like a fun take on Battletech style ablative armor + decreasing capabilities. It uses a grid to track damage and you cross off boxes in different patterns depending on what weapon hits
fresh hull
yeah probably
tepid steeple
infinity todayyyy
orchid tulip
Woo
compact leaf
infinity todayyyy
Wait, do you also do infinity every Thursday??
tame brook
Perhaps you've been playing each other and never even realized! 👀 (/s)
tepid steeple
Wait, do you *also* do infinity every Thursday??
this is my first thurday of hopefully many to come
though probably not every one
I had so much fun
this was my list, mission was uhh
Direct Action Superiority
and I won 3-1 !
Maggie was awesome, put her in suppression each turn (at before game with command token) and that 24" scary machine gun aura is just great
plus baggage making her like 90 pts for dominating quadrants
sleek trail
Maggie rules
compact leaf
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Brought this list out last night, won 10-0 in a mission called overrule from the Sandtrap rulebook
My opponent was trying out Shindenbutai, I was trying out a new module for my SP lists
They lost more units in their active turn than they did in the reactive turn, guess that's what happens when you try and fight a fireteamed ML in good range
...and fail all of your saves on your heaviest hitting units
tepid steeple
What teams did you do
compact leaf
What teams did you do
Fireteams looked like this:
- Eudoros, Acmon, Myrmidon officer
- Makhe K1 Combi, Scylla
- Makhe Missile Launcher, Charybdis
- Phoenix, Machaon, Myrmidon
In that order, the last one is in group 2
compact leaf
I'm thinking I can drop the devabot and start finding a way to fit Agamemnon in
tepid steeple
Excited to try it out when I have enough rtf
compact leaf
Those pure duos seem really fun in n5
They arreeee
I think SP is notably good at them too, and even impure stuff is still good cause they've just got good profiles that work well together
tepid steeple
I dont think it would even occur to me to out scylla and charybdis in separate teams but it makes sense
compact leaf
That may be their new niche
tepid steeple
But yeah this list seems cool, I like how each group gets to do a thing with all the tacaware etc
compact leaf
Mhm!
It worked better than I expected
Makhai used to have NCO instead, but making them TacAware has been such a massive boon
tepid steeple
Ye ye for sure
compact leaf
I still need to find a good way to try out hoplites
Hmm, I could take a Hoplite with Scylla
tepid steeple
Hoplite looks so cool
compact leaf
A little sad I can't take them with Thorakitai anymore like their lore wants you to
But yeah
tepid steeple
Mm :(
compact leaf
They're quite good too!
Just.. competing for points in a faction of expensive troopers..
I do think you're taking one of the engineers most of the time though
compact leaf
You definitely take the turret if you can pay for it, but it's also I think the first thing I'll drop if I need a few extra points somewhere
tepid steeple
ye its on the site
compact leaf
Neat
orchid tulip
Look at these cute foxes!
tepid steeple
ooh
orchid tulip
next pilot
Conqyest added a Japanese inspired faction hugging
Huh
Wow autocorrect butchered that
Alongside my misspelling
stable pelican
i have created some sign names for an infinity nomads terrain as a shop but i can't decided which one to go with
they're all dark humor oriented but i can only choose one
theyre all in the vibe of shop name with catchy slogan
but i would like some help with it but two of them are of the nsfw topics
posted a poll on local wargaming group for help
compact leaf
Oh!
Ruby!
How've you been enjoying N5?
stable pelican
i played 2 games and i really enjoy it
so far league games but still very good
im deciding on what to bring for my second phase of escalation league
so far 2 of said shop signs are fighting eachother in the poll
orchid tulip
Picked up a Fiddler and Nökken today
orchid tulip
First time touching CB plastics. Does Tamiya cement work on it?
compact leaf
First time touching CB plastics. Does Tamiya cement work on it?
I haven't tried tamiya, but GW plastic glue doesn't seem to work
Based on what we can find on forums, it looks like you want to use cyanoacrylate
sudden halo
I don't think Tamiya cement works. It is more of a resin, so it isn't susceptible to the solvents in plastic glue.
autumn sun
https://infinityuniverse.com/blog/plastic-resin-miniatures "The material they use is a plastic resin, a mixture of resin and PVC"
It's not plastic so you have to use super glue.
I assume it's the same material that Reaper Miniatures and some other companies use--what some call "restic" and others just PVC plastic. It's what a lot of board game models use.
velvet badge
Whatever the newer stuff like the tikbalang are made of, that shit is mint. Super clean details compared to their older attempts at plastic like Maximus
compact leaf
It's worth noting that those were both the same year haha
They've gotten good at siocast rather quickly
They had to to be able to release Warcrow
orchid tulip
Fiddler Jackbot
Will have to pick up some new super glue then
One of Tamiya's CA glues
compact leaf
At the heed of our advisors...
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A very nice link, we think
Can be 2 links for 12 points
I could flex a Makhai into a Hoplite too...
The link in question
stable pelican
i saw someone built a list mostly made of turrets
and one thats essentially a minefield list
compact leaf
Dashat does deployables concerningly well with the baggage changes
compact leaf
that is 5 turrets deployed at the start of the game
orchid tulip
Why can't we hack turrets?
compact leaf
Oh hey wait
This list has absolutely no way to replenish any of that defensive stuff
It'll be annoying but.. actually pretty easy to get through
The active player just has to hose down all the turrets in the way and walk a TAG through the minefield
It'll take them a whole turn though...
I guess it's kind of a gambit list
sudden halo
Whatever the newer stuff like the tikbalang are made of, that shit is mint. Supe...
They have two different ones, Unicool's formulation and their in house thermoplastic. Their in house one started as the Siocast formula but has evolved a bit since.
I think the Tik is the Unicool.
sudden halo
Kestrel is insane tbh, mostly cause of this. Swap in 1 thing that can attack decently and suddenly this list is pretty scary.
compact leaf
Kestrel is pretty neat for having a lot of combos that are just super obviously good
I think there are some secret ones in other factions we haven't figured out yet
But Kestrel is being considered near the top because it's so easy to throw something together that works well
compact leaf
And, also in Adepticon will come a new action pack for Infinity. A renewed sectorial with a boost of profiles.
https://corvusbelli.com/en/press-room/blog/annual-summary
Well
Rework incoming
Either Onyx or ISS
We'll see
tepid steeple
qk?
compact leaf
That'd be nice but CB hasn't even mentioned their plans for them yet :(
So I'm inclined to believe not yet..
But I do know Haqq and Aleph are supposed to get something
tepid steeple
yeah it would make sense to be later when the haqq/aleph stuff is rolling out
compact leaf
All I'm hoping for is speedball getting some changes cause right now it's not what CB said they wanted it to be ("something that can help you if you're behind")
compact leaf
Mhm
Also
Completely forgot about a video that was posted, ISS is getting the rework in spring
https://youtu.be/qFozxeUcs2s?si=8Qe2jtrww7Bkga51
Oh hey
New stuff
Those PanO models...
If that's the magistrate, Holy shit
orchid tulip
The boilersuit gals look great
orchid tulip
Also, what is the status of RemRacers? Wondering as they mention " a new game set in Infinity with remotes, cards and a lot of madness..."
compact leaf
They chose some damn good paint jobs for those nomads repacks
compact leaf
Also, what is the status of RemRacers? Wondering as they mention " a new game se...
RemRacers has released
It'll be something new
orchid tulip
That Nomad pack is 50% stuff I already own..., one of which is a chara