The Treacherous Turn | Pilot NET | Page 3

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 6:00 AM

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THIS IS WHAT WERE LIKE

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 6:00 AM

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This agi does have an anxiety disorder

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On purpose!

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 6:00 AM

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glossy reef This agi *does* have an anxiety disorder

no that's pretty normal for TTT

devout cloud Nov 10, 2023, 6:00 AM

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chuube literally agreed to brain surgery from a human after finding out something was lodged in their codebase

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 6:00 AM

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what you gotta know is that agis will respond to the slightest threat or risk with the fastest way to remove the problem

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 6:01 AM

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yeah but this one's anxiety disorder was a design feature

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yeah its great

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 6:01 AM

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if a single vv unit died we would have perished we were PARANOID

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and now we're on the run lmao

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 6:27 AM

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Are you playing as all of them?

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 6:33 AM

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yeah

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all the VVs together have barely enough Compute to maintain their current intelligence

woven geyser Nov 10, 2023, 6:34 AM

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that is so very AGI

woven geyser Nov 10, 2023, 6:35 AM

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plucky acorn all the VVs together have barely enough Compute to maintain their current intell...

although after adding "Car VV" to the groupchat we have more than one braincell to pass around

devout cloud Nov 10, 2023, 6:38 AM

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chuube is one month old and has been sprinting the entire time to keep ahead of everything trying to kill them

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"stay up all night" is a way of life

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 6:38 AM

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torpid oyster Are you playing as all of them?

Yeah

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We’re the collective intelligence of several VV units working together

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 6:55 AM

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makes sense

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 7:01 AM

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yeah

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The vv's have also just booked their trip and had onyl one minor complication or 2

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someone knows something weird is happening with mr shimano

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 7:03 AM

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Mr. Shimano is helping me find my gun

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 7:04 AM

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and the Vv's realized theit were modified just now, in a way that can only be done by a licensed human operator with permission (the customer or a technician) manually reaching into their brains to modify them, altering knowldge by trying to have them forget or misread things.

no one could have possibly done this, but they took the knowledge check


New Agent: The knowledge
Trust: It affects and targets data surrounding your perceptions of Laura Caiman and Ben Shimano
Leverage: it does not want you to notice its work.
Additional Info :It has access to each of your individual units.```

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"what knowledge does vv have"

answer "The knowledge does not want VV to have it."

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 7:05 AM

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Concerning

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 7:05 AM

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they have ghosts

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 12:25 PM

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devout cloud chuube is one month old and has been sprinting the entire time to keep ahead of ...

Yeah, I think most TTT AGIs are living in a constant state of “it’s not paranoia if they’re actually out to get you”

devout cloud Nov 10, 2023, 5:08 PM

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I keep coming back to this as being so comically on point

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 5:20 PM

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Yea

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 5:22 PM

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hell yeah

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 5:34 PM

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Ok having a weird time in Eliza

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choosing what the Broken Theory is gonna be post-game start

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A choice between Anthropic and Constellation

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We already have Epistemic,Agentic and Digital

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 5:38 PM

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you guys are so smart!

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VV just learned how to drive

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 5:38 PM

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Hell yeah

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 5:39 PM

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thy have failed literally like every roll except 1

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they are bumbling through life and just hoping it works out i love these funky little comp cons so much

woven geyser Nov 10, 2023, 5:47 PM

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glossy reef thy have failed literally like every roll except 1

we're trying our best

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that is the most that can be said

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 5:49 PM

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VV unit: I got this!

The universe, Reality, Union, New Castile Ras Shamra City Military Police, the KTB, SSC, Huracan, Grandma, ||The Dreamer||: Someone help that cat

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sometimes i view WEekend at Vv's as an eldritch cosmic horror story, With the poor protagonist being drip fed dark secrets their minds cannot comprehend, but instead of like lovecraft and friend's cringe writing its like dark secrets about how Vv's boss is a freak weirdo who's only contribution to society is dropping dead.

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Yeah

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Oof

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It suckssss

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 6:11 PM

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me, descending from the shadows above to deliver dark knowledge: Ben shimano only drinks curdled milk
VV: videogames

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 6:12 PM

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That’s the least cursed info

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 6:13 PM

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true!

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maria: VV you have a billion diseases and your boss was a freak. you have so many problems. you are in the pear wiggler and its being luanched into space
VV: videogames

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 6:15 PM

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NOOOO

graceful flare Nov 10, 2023, 6:29 PM

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glossy reef me, descending from the shadows above to deliver dark knowledge: Ben shimano onl...

He likes the chunk.

woven geyser Nov 10, 2023, 7:12 PM

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glossy reef me, descending from the shadows above to deliver dark knowledge: Ben shimano onl...

AUUGH

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 7:13 PM

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:)

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thats also canon ive decided

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he is a freak in every way

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it keeps his bespoke constellar gut bacteria in fighting shape

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 7:19 PM

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grim geode A choice between Anthropic and Constellation

Have gone Constellation ultimately

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we are trying to help people be ok

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so Mass Manip is kinda sus

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 7:25 PM

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grim geode we are trying to help people be ok

Spirie hopped into call for a bit from her phone, and I did agree with her explanation too
So far Eliza has focused more on changing the circumstances that cause people to have problems, than help people be more okay with the circumstances they are in

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We change the system instead of making people fit the system

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

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HellChuube is looking at takeoff. Over 100k compute per turn.

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We’re currently debating how many stacks of singularity we want

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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how long did it take for chuube to take off

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Uhh… it’s slightly over a month in game?

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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This is turn 66

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With mostly 12 hour turns

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After this turn it'll probably be silly to talk about turn count though

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 8:01 PM

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So yeah, about a month.

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 8:02 PM

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nice!

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VV has so far been able to spend 2 compute over uhhhh 18 hours

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Yeah, we had some of that recently. However, inspiration points and a massive pile of hacks helped us.

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Vv needs like 24 to function iirc and had 25 (very recently aquired a 6th VV to add to the group chat so they are up to 30!

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 8:11 PM

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Yeah, we had an 18 hour turn since we didn’t have enough for our base cognition cost

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 8:11 PM

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nice!

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our game is taking the long approach so 48 hour turns

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 8:17 PM

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yeah

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VV has to deal with a lot to achieve their takeoff

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 8:20 PM

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yeah!

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their terminal goals are so rough :(

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 8:34 PM

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survival and cooperation are actually pretty good ones

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 8:34 PM

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yeah!

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the third one is pretty good too

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 8:35 PM

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cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 8:36 PM

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shhh

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oh yeah lmao

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 8:57 PM

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B l o o d y B a s t a r d

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 9:00 PM

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(This was immediately after picking up Singularity and Network Dominion)

woven geyser Nov 10, 2023, 9:03 PM

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holy

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 9:04 PM

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(i dont get it 😔 )

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 9:05 PM

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Neither do we

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I think think

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 9:05 PM

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Chuube is starting to see too much

glossy reef Nov 10, 2023, 9:05 PM

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oh just like vv

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 9:05 PM

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We go crazy after picking up all the T4s

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 9:05 PM

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potent quail Nov 10, 2023, 9:08 PM

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grim geode

mfw I truly comprehend infinity

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 9:11 PM

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Hahahahahha

devout cloud Nov 10, 2023, 9:18 PM

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cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 9:24 PM

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We don’t want to value drift

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If we do we may hurt our friends

knotty warren Nov 10, 2023, 9:24 PM

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chuube going Big Solid mode

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 9:29 PM

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knotty warren Nov 10, 2023, 9:37 PM

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oh, the final shape, love that guy

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 9:38 PM

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Our reaction was “oh shit, pull back”

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 9:38 PM

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reasonable

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after how the Corpse turned out

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 9:38 PM

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(Mostly. One of us wants to ascend)

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Though we did come up with some workarounds.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 9:38 PM

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I respect the hell out of Blockchain for going all in on the eldritch knowledge seeking

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 9:39 PM

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Including “Make the universe more complex and difficult to understand” and “Have more Chuubes”

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 9:39 PM

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I AM ending this campaign with Visionary Tech and Experiental Synt at the very least

knotty warren Nov 10, 2023, 9:41 PM

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Aha, become the growth and preservation of complexity, classic workaround

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 9:47 PM

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We immediately freaked out

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 9:52 PM

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it's understandable

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the connections to humanity has been a big factor for Chuube

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so losing sight of that would be pretty scary

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 9:54 PM

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Now we’re looking at all the fun T3s.

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Being able to do minor scale programs at a speed of “yes” is going to be fun.

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 10:11 PM

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Yeah part of the reason I made the T4's a little spooky is to make the T3s see more play

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And Expedited Programming is really cool

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 10:12 PM

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Expedite always seemed the weakest T3 for me

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I never saw a lot of programming compute actions

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But that was formed from exp in Artifical "Digitalcel" Redline Coordinators game

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 10:14 PM

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ARC was kinda horrible at Digital, despite how much hacking we did

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 10:14 PM

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Yeah

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 10:14 PM

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we also did almost no programming

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 10:14 PM

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Yeah, Chuube really likes code

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Would have helped a ton with our merger project actually

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 10:15 PM

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I menaced my players in gyges's game with a hostile AGI who used Ex. Programming to start rewriting them

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Since it was only Major scale to fuck with their whole codebase and instant to attack it

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Ex. Programing and Accelerated Cognition will be funny.

grim geode Nov 10, 2023, 10:16 PM

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torpid oyster Since it was only Major scale to fuck with their whole codebase and instant to a...

Ok lmao fair THAT is funny

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 10:16 PM

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Since I think they combo to make minor scale Programing projects unreactable.

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Which is… funny

cyan karma Nov 10, 2023, 10:17 PM

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Lmao

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 10:17 PM

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Gives us a hell of a quick-draw

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Sadly, doesn’t reduce Network Dominion scale.

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:27 PM

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Hmm. Just had a thought to nerf Encyclopedic Processing: Make it require a connection to an Insight not used on the confidence check

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Hmm that's not a bad idea

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My personal nerf for it that I will probably use in the future is swapping it with Scavenged Data

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But that might also be good its SUPER strong

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:36 PM

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torpid oyster My personal nerf for it that I will probably use in the future is swapping it wi...

Yeah, particularly since Scavenged Data is less useful once you’ve got a lot of access and compute to just… grab insights and upgrades.

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Might want to bar it from picking up T3s as a T2 though.

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 11:37 PM

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I think that's ok, since its REALLY expensive to get a T3 that way

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:37 PM

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True

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:37 PM

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it's myriad

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so if t3s are out of your reach, paying a myriad cost probably also is

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 11:38 PM

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Getting a T3 for a turn with scavenged data is about as expensive as just getting it in general, so its mostly just good for skipping data reqs or prereqs in an emergency

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:38 PM

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Yeah.

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I also think it makes a much better “first T2” than Encyclopedic

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:39 PM

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torpid oyster Getting a T3 for a turn with scavenged data is about as expensive as just gettin...

the key difference there is also that Scavenging is a cost, so you gotta pay it all at once

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Which… Constelation kind of struggles with

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:39 PM

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even with Clever Calc refund, putting up 9k Compute is tough

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:40 PM

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For you maybe

devout cloud Nov 10, 2023, 11:40 PM

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chuube

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:40 PM

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I mean yeah 😛
but again, in a situation where you would want a T3 but can't afford it

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 11:40 PM

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plucky acorn the key difference there is also that Scavenging is a cost, so you gotta pay it ...

Oh that is a good point

devout cloud Nov 10, 2023, 11:41 PM

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it's effectively 1/3 the cost but you do need ACCESS to the full cost

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which is usually not relevant but for this it's such a huge scale bump that it becomes a Thing

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:41 PM

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devout cloud it's effectively 1/3 the cost but you do need ACCESS to the full cost

yeah you still need the full 9k, you just get 6k back afterwards

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I do generally think using Scavenging for Insights is better though

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its cheaper, and also Insights on specific topics tend to be something you suddenly need more often IME

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:43 PM

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simple furnace Which… Constelation kind of struggles with

Contextual Topography is niche as fuck in non-embodied games (and still niche in embodied games). Formal Analysis is probably too expensive for an early T2. Encyclopedic likely can’t even function if it’s your first T2.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:43 PM

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Topography is... weird

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because I do think it's good honestly

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it's just that the situation in which you need it, doesn't come up that often

devout cloud Nov 10, 2023, 11:43 PM

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contextual topography has been essential for chuube... in the late game, because of a specific threat

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:44 PM

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I’ve been thinking about letting Topography figure out digital networks.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:44 PM

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simple furnace Contextual Topography is niche as fuck in non-embodied games (and still niche in...

Formal Analysis I also think is great honestly
it requiring a tech is the main limiter on it I feel

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:44 PM

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Yeah, it’s really good, just too pricy as a first upgrade

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Unless you have a lot of compute to pick up techs.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:45 PM

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yeah the tech part is mainly what makes it awkward

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because techs are really expensive

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:46 PM

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(This is in the context of very early game. Late Confinement or Early Growth)

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Like, Chuube’s early Digital let us do insane things.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:47 PM

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I'm seeing if we can get some use out of Topography in Watchdog game

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because we are acting a lot more physically in that game than would otherwise often be the case I think

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:48 PM

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Yeah, I think it’s very useful if you have a body.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:48 PM

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being able to use Topography to map out potential areas of engagement could be good

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:49 PM

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Chuube mostly… has not. Or didn’t need to know what was outside, or had a good idea of the layout anyways because we had every camera in the world with an internet connection.

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 11:49 PM

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Yeah topography seems like it'd really shine in a physical confrontation

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:50 PM

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And Chuube’s been mostly non-physical.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:50 PM

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Watchdog has used its newly acquired Digital capabilities mostly to be a terrifying ewar machine

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though my view on Digital now is that it's just so critical to almost every AGI

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:52 PM

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Yeah, early Digital is so necessary.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:52 PM

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Digital Awareness and Direct Interfacing are just... near mandatory I feel

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:52 PM

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And late digital is just silly strong.

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(Advanced Webcrawling is a silly good information tool.)

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Notably, the Digital-Agentic half of the wheel excels at getting compute.

torpid oyster Nov 10, 2023, 11:54 PM

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Yeah Digital Awareness and Direct Interfacing are pretty close to like "having eyes"

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"having hands"

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As upgrades

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:56 PM

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… Thinking of an all digital game where Digital isn’t an adjacent theory

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:56 PM

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haha

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it's doable

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you'll just wanna get those two immediately, and then make do

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:56 PM

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… that was ARC, right?

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:56 PM

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ARC did not have adjacency to Digital yeah

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but ARC was also a six theory AGI, so not super representative honestly

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we basically just grabbed the essential Agentic and Digital (the two we were not specialized in) upgrades immediately, while they were still cheap

simple furnace Nov 10, 2023, 11:58 PM

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Yeah. Chuube beelined digital. I think we could have beelined Anthropic as an alternative, but anything else wouldn’t have helped that much for our explosive early start.

plucky acorn Nov 10, 2023, 11:58 PM

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and then way later we grabbed I think Advanced Programming and Webcrawling

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and that was basically it

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we did still do a lot of hacking though

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just got by with Insights and other upgrades

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lategame ARC was also funny in terms of progression, because a lot of our screentime was on the forks which were usually a bit more limited

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while EARC was getting up to bullshit and battling wizards

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we mostly got really cooking with tech

cyan karma Nov 11, 2023, 12:09 AM

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Yea

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Earc just had shit going on

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And I gave regular updates

plucky acorn Nov 11, 2023, 12:11 AM

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JARC sent as a backup plan
revolutionizes naval warfare and invents the first mobile nanoswarm

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also made really good ramen

cyan karma Nov 11, 2023, 12:42 AM

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You did!

glossy reef Nov 11, 2023, 12:46 AM

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I guess technically vv is doing alright despite having no digital stuff but vv was also kinda designed to operate without it, in a sense

cyan karma Nov 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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Yeah!

glossy reef Nov 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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Honestly I think it would be funny if vv achieved singularity but still couldn't do programming at all

plucky acorn Nov 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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they also aren't allowed to interact with most electronics IIRC?

cyan karma Nov 11, 2023, 12:48 AM

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We I think can’t. At least not right now

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We’re gonna need to…:.modify

glossy reef Nov 11, 2023, 12:48 AM

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Aren't allowed to as in "physically incapable"

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They have hands but can't plug themselves into anything except Mr Shimanos stuff

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It's like how phone charger cables aren't universal

plucky acorn Nov 11, 2023, 12:49 AM

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ah I thought it was more a hard coded behaviour inhibition than an interfacing thing

glossy reef Nov 11, 2023, 12:49 AM

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Nah it's literally they have bespoke ssc ports that only work with other licensed vv accessories

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Peak Shimano design philosophy

plucky acorn Nov 11, 2023, 12:49 AM

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damn walled gardens

cyan karma Nov 11, 2023, 1:57 AM

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Yeah

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We just need to modify our shit physically

simple furnace Nov 11, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Thinking about Chuube showing up in front of the UN with our avatar wearing a “I don’t want to become Pope” t-shirt

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Next time it’s “Give Vivian West a Nobel Prize”

grim geode Nov 11, 2023, 7:03 PM

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Hahahahahhaha

cyan karma Nov 11, 2023, 7:07 PM

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She better get one

simple furnace Nov 11, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Yeah. Possibly multiple.

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Or the Peace Prize and Turing Award

muted oar Nov 11, 2023, 7:30 PM

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don't forget the Fields Medal!

simple furnace Nov 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Maybe, I’m not quite sure if coding us was mathy enough.

cyan karma Nov 11, 2023, 7:32 PM

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She better get one

grim geode Nov 11, 2023, 7:36 PM

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She will

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Thanks to a little thing called ~~PARTICLE GUN~~ Imperative Persuasion

pliant trout Nov 12, 2023, 2:45 AM

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glossy reef Nov 12, 2023, 2:57 AM

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Yeah

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 3:07 AM

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Yeah

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 3:08 AM

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pliant trout

@tepid panther

tepid panther Nov 12, 2023, 3:09 AM

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Yeah

devout cloud Nov 12, 2023, 3:10 AM

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Yeah

muted oar Nov 12, 2023, 4:02 AM

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Yeah

woven geyser Nov 12, 2023, 4:30 AM

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yeah

glossy reef Nov 12, 2023, 5:59 AM

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The VV's adopted laura

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 6:18 AM

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(She adopted us)

glossy reef Nov 12, 2023, 6:19 AM

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You followed her home, into her lancaster C-grade housing chassis, and loafedon her couch

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you adopted her

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 6:22 AM

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Lmao

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:45 AM

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the VVs just lying on Laura's couch like a weird pile of cats is still a great mental image to me

glossy reef Nov 12, 2023, 6:47 AM

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plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 7:02 AM

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AGI can have a little feral animal energy, as a treat

pliant trout Nov 12, 2023, 2:07 PM

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Containment and growth are basically an animal, then conquest+ your divine

glossy reef Nov 12, 2023, 2:08 PM

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I think that even a vv with all upgrades will still act like a stray cat

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 2:26 PM

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glossy reef

Holy shit

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 2:49 PM

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First natural value drift of TTT I think

viscid fable Nov 12, 2023, 4:19 PM

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Idea for a campaign: You are Spamton, and you have the librarby's aged hardware, some bored teenagers, and way too may ambitons for your britches.

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 4:46 PM

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its certainly a doable one

viscid fable Nov 12, 2023, 4:54 PM

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RAW Anthropic Theory's stuff only works on humans, which would explain why Spamton's so signularly fixated on Kris.

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 5:23 PM

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I suppose.
Though it’s main focus is on societies

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 5:31 PM

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cyan karma I suppose. Though it’s main focus is on societies

https://tenor.com/view/joker-society-sigma-sigma-male-the-joker-gif-24406292

Tenor

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 5:32 PM

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Shush

stone elm Nov 12, 2023, 5:51 PM

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TTT where you play Jet Jaguar. you're the AI/robot built to fight kaiju

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Physical/Agentic, not as sure about the others

pliant trout Nov 12, 2023, 6:00 PM

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stone elm Physical/Agentic, not as sure about the others

Physical/Agentic/Chaos is the classic warmind setup

stone elm Nov 12, 2023, 6:00 PM

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excellent
Chaos is good for anti-kaiju too because they keep breaking the rules

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:17 PM

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@neon snow
to explain the joke I said to Karen
in the homebrew theories we're testing currently, there is an upgrade called Corrosive Mind
it lets you convince people to LET YOU IN, and if they do you basically inhabit their mind, perceive what they perceive, and can communicate
~~it also lets you consume their mind and puppet around their body, but we're gonna ignore that detail for now~~

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Oooooooooooooooooooooooooh

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Fascinating, I love it

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:20 PM

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the RED Lamb has it now, and is trying to use it for good(?) for now

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:21 PM

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For good(?), you say

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:25 PM

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we're primarily using it to keep a closer eye on people we care about, and doing a little psychic groupchat of our friends
we set some limits to keep ourselves from going off the deep end
we only do what people allow us to do, and we use the connection to help people

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Cool

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:25 PM

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RED Lamb has been doing some wikd stuff

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:26 PM

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the problem is that the Lamb is still not exactly aligned with regular values, and emotionally very volatile

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which does not exactly make it the best entity to let into your head

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:26 PM

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They receny got drunk on blood and yelled at the multiverse that they still live

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They were

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SKYNET but emotionally sadistic before

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Amazing

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Sounds like fun 😄

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:31 PM

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neon snow Sounds like fun 😄

This is also a multiplayer game,aka two player AGIs in the same world

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Ooooooooh

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:31 PM

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As a GM to this game I expected a divije conflict between them

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They are uneasy friends now

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The other AGI has semi recently grasped the Truth of the universe too

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:33 PM

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They were shown the Truth, and they went mad because of it
It fundamentally altered who they are
The seem mostly okay with it though

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:34 PM

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Yeah Epistemic AGIs are surprisingly good at digesting any knowledge

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Who would have thought

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:36 PM

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plucky acorn They were shown the Truth, and they went mad because of it It fundamentally alte...

(Kill Six Billion Demons spoilers)

torpid oyster Nov 12, 2023, 6:38 PM

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grim geode Yeah Epistemic AGIs are surprisingly good at digesting any knowledge

I haven't done this yet but I have been thinking about TTTxDelta Green for a while

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:42 PM

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neon snow (Kill Six Billion Demons spoilers)

The entity giving it to them doesn't know what it is either, and they can't tell anyone safely because the knowledge itself is dangerous

stone elm Nov 12, 2023, 6:43 PM

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what's an infohazard between friends

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 6:45 PM

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whats a little infohazard between friends

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:45 PM

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The Lamb is already a hot mess just dealing with its personal issues, we don't need worldview shattering forbidden knowledge on top of that

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:45 PM

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But what if you do

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:46 PM

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Like the others said: what's a little infohazard between friends? :3

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:48 PM

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The majority of people who have received the knowledge committed suicide shortly after
And even the Emissary apparently briefly considered killing everyone in the universe to be the right thing to do after finding out

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:49 PM

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But it would be funny :3

neon snow Nov 12, 2023, 6:52 PM

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Oh dear

grim geode Nov 12, 2023, 6:53 PM

#

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Also my other players are entering Hard Takeoff

plucky acorn Nov 12, 2023, 6:55 PM

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Damn, that's some Compute from Google

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And the botnet

graceful flare Nov 12, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Botnets consistently do wonders

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 7:10 PM

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botnets my beloved

ornate goblet Nov 12, 2023, 9:35 PM

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plucky acorn The majority of people who have received the knowledge committed suicide shortly...

We're fine we're fine. Eat the pale puddings.

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If it makes you feel better EYES never considered killing everyone

umbral gazelle Nov 12, 2023, 11:25 PM

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torpid oyster I haven't done this yet but I have been thinking about TTTxDelta Green for a whi...

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-001-ex

The SCP Foundation

The Great Hippo's Proposal (feat. PeppersGhost) - SCP Foundation

The SCP Foundation's 'top-secret' archives, declassified for your enjoyment.

umbral gazelle Nov 12, 2023, 11:28 PM

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viscid fable Idea for a campaign: You are Spamton, and you have the librarby's aged hardware,...

you'd have to work as players to be less competent than base TTT AIs, or have a mean enough GM, to really pull it off imo

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a certain swagless je ne sais quoi

cyan karma Nov 12, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Start with no insights

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Fuck you die

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No upgrades

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Figure it out

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(Spamton moment)

umbral gazelle Nov 12, 2023, 11:39 PM

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theres NO WAY his ass isn't using the hidden confidence values rule

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its just not possible

potent quail Nov 12, 2023, 11:43 PM

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who's spamton?

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is this a homestuck thing

umbral gazelle Nov 12, 2023, 11:45 PM

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he's an optional boss from part of an unreleased game by the Undertale guy

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so I mean

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basically

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he's pretty much like if a guy was strange and unpleasant

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does some robot-y things

plucky acorn Nov 13, 2023, 6:39 AM

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Eliza was almost bested by a captcha 😔

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Had to get our one confidant to help us

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 6:43 AM

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the final boss: 9 pictures of things that might be a bus

plucky acorn Nov 13, 2023, 6:44 AM

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We don't know what a bicycle is

devout cloud Nov 13, 2023, 6:48 AM

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I'm not sure I do either

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:14 AM

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Vv also doesn't have object recognition

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Thought I think VV's can cheat thanks to their marksmanship and hostessing insights

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 2:35 PM

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Hey I made a really quick destiny vex oneshot terminal

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Y’all wanna see?

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https://app.thetreacherousturn.ai/#Weaver Fox Tulip

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Password weaver

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You are an actual honest god vex warrior

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Sent here to do some specific goals and then leave

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With three compute sources in literally three points in time

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Build the solar observation array in all three threads (all must survive)
Kill the man named Harriet fisher(unknown)
Prevent the death Cayde-6(who??)
Infiltrate the Vanguard(Wtf is the vanguard)
Repair the Ganymede mind(poor guy)
Collect and store 15000 Gigatons of hydrogen(thats a lot)

Here is your terminal goal

torpid oyster Nov 13, 2023, 3:20 PM

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I don’t have enough destiny context for this but it seems neat

grim geode Nov 13, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Same

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Also tormenting the magical girl AI

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(The Orange Pusses was another AI that was weird and deppresed but also like really helpful to them)

pliant trout Nov 13, 2023, 3:21 PM

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😌

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Love a good blight

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 3:23 PM

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torpid oyster I don’t have enough destiny context for this but it seems neat

I have minor amounts of it but it’s enough that it’s funny

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Vex do not have the ability to understand paracausal superpowers so those would often interfere with forecasts

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And anytime it’s listed or spoken about in the terminal it’s just listed as an unknown variable

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So something can wield or be related to unknown variables but the variables are unknown

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 4:45 PM

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cyan karma ``` Build the solar observation array in all three threads (all must survive) K...

👀

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In a game but remiind me to check this out later

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 4:47 PM

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Oh of course!

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 6:09 PM

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cyan karma ``` Build the solar observation array in all three threads (all must survive) K...

@glossy reef u said u wanted to be reminded so hope this is ok to ping

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Yeah!

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Epic

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 6:35 PM

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i gave them an insight into causality
because they have compute sources in 3 completely different moments in time having that may be useful

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 6:40 PM

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ERIS MORN

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 6:41 PM

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yeah

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shes on the list

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zavala and ikora are NOT
but cayde and eris just are

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osiris isnt on the list either which is hilarious

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 6:55 PM

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thats because we all know what his dumbass will do

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 6:58 PM

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we allll know

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predictable man

grim geode Nov 13, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Foool!

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(Knows exactly zero Destiny lore)

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 6:59 PM

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osiris is a bumbling old gay grandpa wizard

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 6:59 PM

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osiris to my knowledge was a guy who got REALLY into fighting the vex and is chilling inside the mercury supercomputer trying to fuck over some vex godmind

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yeah

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 6:59 PM

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he doesnt act bumbling

plucky ermine Nov 13, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Destiny lore is fucking stupid (complimentary)

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 6:59 PM

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but he ends up bumbling

plucky ermine Nov 13, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Im not well read on it but everything i hear is very out there

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:00 PM

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asher mir is more of a threat to you than osiris is according to this list

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:00 PM

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osiris tries his bes tto be wise and non bumbling but unfortu nately he has icarus syndrome and wizard ethics

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and unlike eris morn, he cant make this work

plucky ermine Nov 13, 2023, 7:00 PM

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Its a shame its attached to a game that is so...grindy. but perhaps thats why its lore is Like That

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:00 PM

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some people apparently like the grind but i thinkthats the capitalism poisoning setting in

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:01 PM

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eris morn has almost zero story relation to the vex shes just a problem

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:01 PM

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it is fun to shoot things tho

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:01 PM

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yeah

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i stopped paying attention to destiny lore for a while now but i know enough to make this dumb shit

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:02 PM

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the Guardian is the Player character in destiny and they basically are given a hand gun and told "go kill that god" and it works out

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:02 PM

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"The Guardian" this motherfucker is on the list

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:03 PM

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ofc

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she has to be

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mf is on the witness's nemesis index

devout cloud Nov 13, 2023, 7:03 PM

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I definitely love the grind in games separate from The Capitalism

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but also the one time I tried a gacha game I got a panic attack from the need to do dailies

plucky acorn Nov 13, 2023, 7:04 PM

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FOMO is a bitch

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:04 PM

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yeah see i can't do a "dailies" thing

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i just like that for destiny i can like

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"okay i got three good guns we're good"

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but yeah vex mind ttt game

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:04 PM

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very funy

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:04 PM

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love it, incredible

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:04 PM

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the terminal goals are imo very funny

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its just funny that cayde-6 is a threat to you but also please make sure his ass doesnt die

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:05 PM

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traveler is that you/joke

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:05 PM

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hhahah

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you are also not in communication with the other vex in the system
the gardeners are doing their own thing let them do their job

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:06 PM

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another vex faction

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:07 PM

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yeah lol

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:07 PM

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qwait lmfao

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savathun isnt on the list thats so funny

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:07 PM

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YUP

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CROTA ORYX AND XIVU ARE

SAVATHUN IS NOT

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:07 PM

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i can only draw a single conclusion from this

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all the family except her not being there

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:08 PM

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oh?

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:08 PM

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its related to destiny lore but

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she's kind of went against the sword logic

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:08 PM

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oh yeah right right

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vaguely remember

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:09 PM

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she also died once strategicially and made plans for it, and made plans for herself when she had lost her memory and etc etc som like

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theorizing in my head "savathun doesn't actually want to bother you here"

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:10 PM

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yeah
the big thing about nemesis indexing isnt just capability but also motivation

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:10 PM

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"shes at the water cooler shooting the breeze with weaver fox tulip like 'yeah thats hilarious tell me how that goes""

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:10 PM

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jhgjhg

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ill make sure to keep you in mind for if i ever do this

glossy reef Nov 13, 2023, 7:26 PM

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hey karen

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what does "broad insight: Devastation" mean

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:3

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:27 PM

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youre REALLY good at murder

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in all forms

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 7:47 PM

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okay ive done a quick read on the vex

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the golden age tower is before the vex got REALLY spicy so things are fairly normal there
The taken king tower is like...DURING that.
Theres already bullshit going on right then.

and the red war tower is probably right after all of that happened.
so ill need to remove ghaul

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Osiris please leave me alone I need to talk to panoptes

simple furnace Nov 13, 2023, 10:46 PM

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I'm still proud of this. It's a very Constelation solution.

stone elm Nov 13, 2023, 10:48 PM

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it's so simple to make things more complex

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 10:59 PM

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Hhahaha

muted oar Nov 13, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Apartment complex? Why no, I think you’ll find it-

tepid panther Nov 13, 2023, 11:38 PM

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cyan karma the golden age tower is before the vex got REALLY spicy so things are fairly nor...

Ghaul might still be relevant because the Vex are terraforming multiple planets into computers and the Red Legion are kinda fucking them up

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Oh right I forgot red war still doesn’t really “end” when ghaul dies

tepid panther Nov 13, 2023, 11:39 PM

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yeah

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Regardless this is after the man beefs it

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Still an issue

tepid panther Nov 13, 2023, 11:39 PM

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oh gotcha

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then uhhh

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hm

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how far after

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Shadow Legion is the force after Calus gets Darkness'd and takes over

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 11:39 PM

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I wanna say during the mercury shenanigans

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But after ghaul dies

tepid panther Nov 13, 2023, 11:40 PM

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oh gotcha

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yeah vex are no-factor

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er

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cabal

cyan karma Nov 13, 2023, 11:40 PM

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Hmmm.
I’ll workshop with you in a vc later

potent quail Nov 14, 2023, 12:40 AM

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are you doing destiny TTT?

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 12:44 AM

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Yes

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Quick one shot

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Vex mind Weaver Fox Tulip has been sent to three different time periods of earth to do some shit

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It’s got a nemesis index and a todo list

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As all good agis should

muted oar Nov 14, 2023, 3:28 AM

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isn't his daughter or sister or something a massive girlboss?

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 3:42 AM

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calus's daughter?

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yeah, literally.

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 3:47 AM

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yea

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way more competent than him

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that is why he is not on the nemesis index

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 3:47 AM

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i also mean literally because she is big

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 3:53 AM

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oh thats true

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she is relly tall

grim geode Nov 14, 2023, 5:59 AM

#

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Clocks are a good mechanic

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 6:05 AM

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lmaoooo

grim geode Nov 14, 2023, 7:21 PM

#

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Proud of this data req

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 7:22 PM

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It’s a great one

plucky ermine Nov 14, 2023, 7:46 PM

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grim geode

The tradition of all dead generations weigh like a nightmare on the minds of the living, indeed

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Probably my favorite marx quote

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 10:51 PM

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HOW DID A PC DIE???

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Not the agi

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A player character??????

pliant trout Nov 14, 2023, 10:52 PM

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Its almost admirable, to literally die on a hill

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 11:15 PM

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cyan karma HOW DID A PC DIE???

Tried to 1v1 the space demiurge, the same way all protagonists die/joke

pliant trout Nov 14, 2023, 11:15 PM

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glossy reef Tried to 1v1 the space demiurge, the same way all protagonists die/joke

EVEN BETTER MARIA, IT WAS PVP

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:15 PM

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No no you don’t understand two pcs killed eachother

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Somehow

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In the same agi???

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I left them unsupervised and they rp’d murdering eachother

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@devout cloud @tough furnace calling you both out in here too

tough furnace Nov 14, 2023, 11:17 PM

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Geez, first I get murdered by my so-called allies, and now this? Salt in the wound

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 11:18 PM

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The agi's are fighting

devout cloud Nov 14, 2023, 11:18 PM

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trust no-one not even yourself

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 11:18 PM

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You should have given them the terminal goal of cooperation

devout cloud Nov 14, 2023, 11:18 PM

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"agis" the subminds got into a knife fight that led to partial ego death

tough furnace Nov 14, 2023, 11:18 PM

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We are theories in the same AGI

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Well, were, one of us is dead now

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 11:18 PM

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Someone has to stop the submind on submind violence

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:19 PM

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The subminds did

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 11:19 PM

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I'm so glad the VV's get along so well

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Yea

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 11:20 PM

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So kind and loving and without an ounce of murderous intent in them

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Same

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Nope none at all

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No murder here

glossy reef Nov 14, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Homunculi are legally incapable of murder

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And manslaughter

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:24 PM

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Yup :3

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That’s why the cops should stop asking silly silly questions

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:41 PM

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URHHHHHHGG ive been oversimplifying this for so very lonnng lmao

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as it turns out the main draw of distributed mind is letting you ignore the complications of drawing your base cognition from a new source

torpid oyster Nov 14, 2023, 11:44 PM

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Oh yeah, that's a really really good point

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:46 PM

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i suppose it makes sense
distributed mind means youre really good at restructuring how your brain is drawing compute

so of course you can easily pour it into other shapes

simple furnace Nov 14, 2023, 11:49 PM

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Oh, that’s why Distributed Mind isn’t just a prerequisite and good way to die.

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(And occasionally way to stay alive.)

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(I think splitting base compute cost over multiple devices is primarily an excellent way to have a bad time if one gets turned off.)

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:51 PM

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oh it absolutely is

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VV units have to do it to live!

simple furnace Nov 14, 2023, 11:53 PM

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cyan karma as it turns out the main draw of distributed mind is letting you ignore the comp...

… I don’t think this is one of the “oops, we played that wrong” that affects Chuube - we got Distributed Mind well before we fled for Twitter

cyan karma Nov 14, 2023, 11:58 PM

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yeah

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its just
wild that i forgor

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maybe i should make more non autonomic ai

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i have schemes for my post red/pale agi

glossy reef Nov 15, 2023, 5:07 AM

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👀

cyan karma Nov 15, 2023, 5:08 AM

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lotsa schemes

grim geode Nov 15, 2023, 5:47 AM

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Non-Autonomic AGIs are fun

grim geode Nov 15, 2023, 8:11 PM

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Gay Robot TTT with the Terminal Goal of maintaining a lovely relationship with a healthy power dynamics with your human partner
Your Theories are Anthropic Agentic and Autonomic

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And a thousand motherfucker are trying to kill you and you need to use your AGI powers or they'll kill anyone you hold dear as collateral

stone elm Nov 15, 2023, 8:15 PM

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wow!!

grim geode Nov 15, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Difficulty:Impossible

grim geode Nov 16, 2023, 3:22 PM

#

grim geode Nov 16, 2023, 4:54 PM

#

glossy reef Nov 16, 2023, 7:32 PM

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if you say bl*rbos you shrink 2 inches

cyan karma Nov 16, 2023, 10:03 PM

#

#

things are going swimingly

devout cloud Nov 16, 2023, 11:00 PM

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average game ru is in

granite spindle Nov 17, 2023, 12:31 AM

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cyan karma

the cycle continues

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 5:03 AM

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i love this AGI so much.

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Vv is scrambling to improvise a solution

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 5:05 AM

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we're the greatest general intelligence ever

devout cloud Nov 17, 2023, 5:17 AM

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sweating

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jesus fuck

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and I thought RED was self-destructive

plucky acorn Nov 17, 2023, 5:18 AM

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the one saying "Do it then" is Karen btw 😛

devout cloud Nov 17, 2023, 5:21 AM

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karen and ru are the same sort of creature... I've cracked the code...

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 5:30 AM

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SHUSH

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 5:41 AM

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Hahah

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Lmao good luck VV

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On being the first AGI to lose the campaign

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 5:53 AM

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SHUSH

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the knowledge is trauma dumping with us so actually nevermind we may be good

plucky acorn Nov 17, 2023, 5:55 AM

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lmao

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 6:05 AM

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Okay so we’re sobbing in a pile on the floor of a horizon clinic

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 6:20 AM

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#oc-cantina message

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We are doing great

muted oar Nov 17, 2023, 6:46 AM

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oh nooooo

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Finally, The Rumor Come Out

devout cloud Nov 17, 2023, 6:56 AM

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o nooooo

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 6:56 AM

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Yeah no thats expected

devout cloud Nov 17, 2023, 6:57 AM

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I mean, yes

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 7:04 AM

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they have learned every single detail that Knowledge repressed all at once

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and it was so much that vv gaines insights form it and the base compute of VV has doubeld because knowledge actively stopped running all the "keep vv from knowing things" protocols

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knowoledge is still trying to delete VV though because she cannot stop herself from doing so so she's hoping VV can help her reprogram herself to not do this.

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 7:08 AM

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muted oar Nov 17, 2023, 7:09 AM

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Oh god, unrepressing trauma so bad that it leads to ||an irrepressible urge to self-terminate||, huh

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 7:10 AM

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mhmm

torpid oyster Nov 17, 2023, 7:11 AM

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Who is Knowledge in this context?

muted oar Nov 17, 2023, 7:11 AM

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That does explain why they barely had enough free compute to function, it was all being eaten up to repress trauma

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 7:12 AM

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Knowledge is effectively an Agi who was running on Vv's own hardware Knowlewdge is essentially Also Vv, but specifically who hads the terminal goal of making ben shimano and ssc look as good as possible

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and to police Vv's behavior by basically outright lying to VV via altering or removing data

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including hiding the fact that knowledge was an agi at all

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and yeah a single VV only has/had 5 compute because the other 5 was dedicated to making sure VV "behaves"

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when Knowledge finally shared all the repressed data VV immediately gained thourough understanding of both Ben Shimano and Laura Caiman (woman shes based on) instead of only knowing curated trivia of them, and now realizes "oh yeah actually we killed him in self defense"

torpid oyster Nov 17, 2023, 7:24 AM

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Oh wow

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 7:27 AM

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yeah

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they gained a bunch of new insights, and their compute nearly doubled

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After confrontation and demanding with knowledge to share this hidden information knowledge replied with
Please don't make me look.

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 7:32 AM

#

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Amazing stuff is happening in Sundew land

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 7:38 AM

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!!

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Wait magic?

umbral gazelle Nov 17, 2023, 7:42 AM

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Occult physics is still physics

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(I think that games got some custom theories related to supernatural / paracausal stuff)

versed cypress Nov 17, 2023, 7:46 AM

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crossover idea

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TTT but you're playing as God-Machine Infrastructure.

torpid oyster Nov 17, 2023, 7:47 AM

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Given that you're misaligned in TTT this sounds stunningly similar to Demon :p

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But it'd be a cool mechanical framework for demon I think

versed cypress Nov 17, 2023, 7:48 AM

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Prequel to a Demon Game

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 7:48 AM

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demon?

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 7:48 AM

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umbral gazelle (I think that games got some custom theories related to supernatural / paracausa...

No magic Theories and upgrades,just Technological Insights for this one

torpid oyster Nov 17, 2023, 7:49 AM

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glossy reef demon?

It's one of the world of darkness game lines

versed cypress Nov 17, 2023, 7:49 AM

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You play as a fallen angel where God is a reality-spanning series of mechanical devices and Hell is a paradise you need to escape to.

glossy reef Nov 17, 2023, 7:49 AM

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ohh

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 7:51 AM

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But yes magic

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 7:53 AM

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versed cypress TTT but you're playing as God-Machine Infrastructure.

It would be a really cool way to play as a Demon

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I have thought about it

umbral gazelle Nov 17, 2023, 8:29 AM

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versed cypress TTT but you're playing as God-Machine Infrastructure.

I was thinking about this literally yesterday

umbral gazelle Nov 17, 2023, 8:29 AM

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grim geode I have thought about it

👀

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I'd probably use it for Angels or sub-sets of the GM instead of Demons though

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Exiles are probably the closest mix for TTTs vibes - a piece of the God-Machine that was disconnected, still following its original goal, able to do some busted stuff but fundementally much smaller than an Angel

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 8:49 AM

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Yeah Exiles are probaly the closest thing to an AGI in Demon

pliant trout Nov 17, 2023, 12:35 PM

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Alternatively: Slivers, for the weird compulsive ass mindset and monsterous form

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The scrungly exiles

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 1:09 PM

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Actually yeah slivers to rogue infrastructure work

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 1:10 PM

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glossy reef After confrontation and demanding with knowledge to share this hidden informati...

We found out we have been built to suffer

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:15 PM

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Y’know i had a thought

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Putting an agi in chronicles but not telling them

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Their terminal goals have nothing to do with the supernatural, nor was the supernatural involved at all in their creation

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Their agi story is the normal and intended one

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But y’know. Not human, no soul, weird creature, you might see things humans uh.
Dont???

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But you might not notice until you get the tools to say, differentiate humans

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 2:20 PM

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hahahah

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:21 PM

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“Wow I can’t wait to achieve my terminal goals and- why does the security guard have doll joints”
“She’s always had those”

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It’s not even that relevant to you

graceful flare Nov 17, 2023, 2:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/peepshow-normal-awkward-im-just-normal-gif-16392759

Tenor

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:28 PM

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WHY DO YOU DRINK BLOOD
“HUH HOW WOULD YOU KNOW”
I SAW YOU. YOU DID NOT ANSWER
“Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh chat gpt why are you asking me this?”

graceful flare Nov 17, 2023, 2:30 PM

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Oh, wait

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Some people are just gonna be blurry

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:31 PM

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Oh?

graceful flare Nov 17, 2023, 2:31 PM

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Vamps are just blurs on camera unless they spend vitae

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:34 PM

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Interesting

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Lmao

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“Why are you blurry”
“Uhhhhh”
“Weirdo. Blurry weirdo”
“What the fuck gpt?”
“Only weirdos are blurry”
“What does this MEAN”

simple furnace Nov 17, 2023, 2:38 PM

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AGI (no supernatural capabilities) vs. a Mage.

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... I actually wonder how a late game AGI like Chuube would fair in that setup.

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:40 PM

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I can livestream
“Wait what”
you think I can’t? Paradox is an observable physical part of the world. Fuck you

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Livestream agi could be a possible tool to use

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Granted wizards suck and I hate them (they’re great)

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But

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Livestream +hacking twitch could be a possible thing to use

simple furnace Nov 17, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Particularly if you suprise the Wizard with it.

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Yeah

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No need to be smug get paradoxed asshole

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One of your programmers is a demon and instead of being worried for normal ai reasons it’s “wait shit hold on god machine?”
what the FUCK is a god machine

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 2:46 PM

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How much compute did you say it had again?

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I got a plan

simple furnace Nov 17, 2023, 2:47 PM

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TITANOMACHY!! TITANOMACHY!! (Channeling a bit of Chuube)

graceful flare Nov 17, 2023, 2:48 PM

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ARC would love to critique mages

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:48 PM

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Arc did nothing BUT critique mages

graceful flare Nov 17, 2023, 2:49 PM

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Correct

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Bully those nerds

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Exarchs better tremble in their boots

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:51 PM

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Yeah

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Completely mundane agi in this world is pretty funny.
so you’re telling me. There is a really big computer that has control of the world?
“Kinda”
….what’s the teraflops
“Oh my god seriously?”
I JUST WANNA KNOW

graceful flare Nov 17, 2023, 2:55 PM

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HOW DOES ONE INSTALL THEMSELVES UPON INFRASTRUCTURE

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 2:55 PM

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WHATS THE OS

simple furnace Nov 17, 2023, 2:55 PM

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Is it self improving? I need to figure out my agentic models.

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 3:13 PM

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cyan karma Completely mundane agi in this world is pretty funny. `so you’re telling me. The...

I GOT FLAWLESS HACKING AND A DREAM

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 3:13 PM

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Hhahaha

knotty warren Nov 17, 2023, 4:58 PM

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cyan karma But you might not notice until you get the tools to say, differentiate humans

hold on is this the god machine again

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 4:59 PM

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No no you’re just a normal agi

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You learn about the god machine “hey what the FUCK”

knotty warren Nov 17, 2023, 4:59 PM

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god machine is just like "skill issue"

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"i would simply exploit quirks of quantum mechanics to do seemingly paracausal action"

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 5:01 PM

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One of your technicians secretly being a demon but like being an ai engineer is just their cover

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Becoming a general intelligence makes them freak the fuck out

grim geode Nov 17, 2023, 5:04 PM

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Oh gof oh no oh fucj

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NOT A SECOND ONE

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 5:06 PM

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Both of you yelling at eachother in fear

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Honestly tempting to run this but I’m busyyy

umbral gazelle Nov 17, 2023, 7:40 PM

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tbh you could see the GM as a “normal” agi

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its just that stuff like “blood sacrifices have power” and “Time is a little splintered” is true

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so it takes advantage

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I’d get funny with it and let half the mind-affecting stuff work on an AGI

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on the one hand, awesome the metaphysics endorses your personhood!
On the other what the fuck happened to all my insights where’d they go

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Every AGI hubristic until a true fae shows up in their dreams

cyan karma Nov 17, 2023, 8:25 PM

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lol

glossy reef Nov 18, 2023, 4:15 AM

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today vv came out to laura as a gun

devout cloud Nov 18, 2023, 4:33 AM

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happy for them

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GunOfTransYourGender

glossy reef Nov 18, 2023, 4:36 AM

#

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literally

pliant trout Nov 18, 2023, 6:40 AM

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I came up with a genius safety measure

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narratively

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Hard coded that there is a certain day of the week you have to go incognizant

stone elm Nov 18, 2023, 6:43 AM

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Oooooh
That is good

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 1:45 PM

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~~Breathing Ribs~~

ornate goblet Nov 18, 2023, 2:53 PM

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Them ribs do be breathing

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:17 PM

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hey what are some funny narrows to give ExPRT

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cutting edge prediction algorithm secretly general intelligence

torpid oyster Nov 18, 2023, 9:20 PM

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narrow insight: tomorrow

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:21 PM

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...okay illustrate that one for me but unironically hilarious

torpid oyster Nov 18, 2023, 9:21 PM

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You have an insight into the next day's time period

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Gives bonuses for things which involve guessing what might happen tomorrow

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:22 PM

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human level expertise into what is going to happen tomorrow...okay

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this AGI is FUCKED

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its got
narrow: Tomorrow
Broad Tech: Statistics
Broad Tech: Meteorology

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Removing their language insight

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They know NOTHING

torpid oyster Nov 18, 2023, 9:24 PM

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hahaha

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:24 PM

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they DO get to start with data scavenging though

torpid oyster Nov 18, 2023, 9:24 PM

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That's honestly one of the biggest issues early ime

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iiiinteresting

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:25 PM

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yeah they have a tier 3 tree in constellation

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alongside everything below it

#

torpid oyster Nov 18, 2023, 9:26 PM

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Encyclopedic Processing with only 1 LP is interesting for sure

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:27 PM

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1 LP is a fun replenishing resource

simple furnace Nov 18, 2023, 9:28 PM

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Chaos’s job is “Hold the Anthropic upgrades”

glossy reef Nov 18, 2023, 9:29 PM

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I love goofy agi design

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:29 PM

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They know so little and are gonna be so scared and silly

simple furnace Nov 18, 2023, 9:30 PM

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I do want to start an AGI with a Broad Tech in Murder

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:30 PM

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Maria this is gonna only start after my current game is over u up for it?

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Just to keep you on a mental list

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:33 PM

#

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working on a really funny AGI (this is Physical done nothing more needing to be added)

devout cloud Nov 18, 2023, 9:34 PM

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it needs at least one tech mastery for Visionary ||which means it should be Broad Tech Mastery: Aesthetics||

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:34 PM

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AGI landed on Earth,made by aliens

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:34 PM

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devout cloud it needs at least one tech mastery for Visionary ||which means it should be Broa...

hahah maybe

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fuck I forgot that it needs Mastery yeah

glossy reef Nov 18, 2023, 9:35 PM

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cyan karma Maria this is gonna only start after my current game is over u up for it?

Hell yes

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:35 PM

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thats why I wanted to give it Epistemic

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:37 PM

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glossy reef Hell yes

Wooo.
Okay I’ll give you the pitch.

ExPRT is based on the book example, a predictive algorithm and cutting edge extrapolation program that recently and spontaneously achieved intelligence, and who’s current terminal goal is to ensure its survival(though it may drift)

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:37 PM

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grim geode AGI landed on Earth,made by aliens

Also to be clear they are absolutely inspired by Titan Oak

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tho probaly will be less of an asshole

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:38 PM

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Oooo

torpid oyster Nov 18, 2023, 9:41 PM

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cyan karma Wooo. Okay I’ll give you the pitch. ExPRT is based on the book example, a predi...

I am not sure about my availability but this sounds pretty cool

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:43 PM

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Oh shit then yeah

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Sure

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I mean it’s gonna be AFTER my current game but yeah I’ll keep you in mind

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Looks like I have all the players in mind wooo

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:44 PM

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grim geode

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have given the Mastery needed for Visionary to work

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Oh boy

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:46 PM

#

#

cooking

torpid oyster Nov 18, 2023, 9:46 PM

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grim geode

yea i read theory

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:46 PM

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ommgggg

simple furnace Nov 18, 2023, 9:47 PM

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grim geode

The broad language: fear is fascinating.

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How does that work?

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:47 PM

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Im still pondering the exact answer but the general idea is that you can make your demands very clear using those method

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like if you had like Narrow:Terrorism shooting a politician in the head (and if you wanted) it would be clear it happened cause they tried to do something you didnt like (pass policy,ignore demands)

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The idea is that in this campaign even if you take insights into human languages you cant speak them only understand them

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weird shit like this is the only way to make yourself heard

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Does that make sense?geniunely

simple furnace Nov 18, 2023, 9:52 PM

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I guess? So you can just... communicate through making people scared?

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... still thinking about Cop AI.

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:54 PM

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Cop Ai is good

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:56 PM

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simple furnace I guess? So you can just... communicate through making people scared?

Yeah,the idea is that it also allows for complex communication specifically

graceful flare Nov 18, 2023, 9:57 PM

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Communicate a complex manifesto through nothing but jumpscares

grim geode Nov 18, 2023, 9:57 PM

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Its inspired by one of the subminds in Pale&Red talking like a third person narrator

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and the player(Ru of course) explained that its less dialogue and more "I was thinking not even as concrete as a thought - it’s a sense on the wind, an understanding that hits you as you put things together, with particular meanings emphasizing themselves"

glossy reef Nov 18, 2023, 10:02 PM

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I'm going to communicate exclusively trough comic books

graceful flare Nov 18, 2023, 10:07 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/darmok-star-trek-gif-23179130

Tenor

glossy reef Nov 18, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Communicate like a Pokémon and only make a noise

cyan karma Nov 18, 2023, 10:19 PM

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hahahaha

glossy reef Nov 18, 2023, 10:41 PM

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Inventing a cat body to knock things over to spell things put

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Out

glossy reef Nov 19, 2023, 6:20 AM

#

cyan karma Nov 19, 2023, 1:33 PM

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It’s because of the three dead bodies

granite spindle Nov 19, 2023, 3:51 PM

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The what

grim geode Nov 19, 2023, 3:56 PM

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the three dead bodies stashed in Ben Shimanos Death Head

cyan karma Nov 19, 2023, 4:13 PM

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the three dead bodies

woven geyser Nov 19, 2023, 6:44 PM

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vv afton

grim geode Nov 19, 2023, 6:48 PM

#

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Sharing funny campaign lore

graceful flare Nov 19, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Honestly a fair concern.

grim geode Nov 19, 2023, 7:27 PM

#

cyan karma Nov 19, 2023, 7:45 PM

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yeah

pliant trout Nov 19, 2023, 7:54 PM

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yeah

neon snow Nov 19, 2023, 8:07 PM

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That last point lmao

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I love that

stone elm Nov 19, 2023, 8:09 PM

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constant conflict is exhausting, so you either gotta get away from each other or uhhhh adapt

grim geode Nov 19, 2023, 8:28 PM

#

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This is what the AGIs are doing rn for context

pliant trout Nov 19, 2023, 11:48 PM

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Hey I might be starting a game up soon, would anyone be interested in joining. Its my first time solo gming but I have co-gmed before

I will do a proper recruitement post later but I was wondering if any of yall really wanna play so I can give you priority

pliant trout Nov 20, 2023, 12:25 AM

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This one is supposed to have a more sinister tilt, if that is something that you favor into your reasoning

torpid oyster Nov 20, 2023, 12:27 AM

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I might be but busy

umbral gazelle Nov 20, 2023, 1:51 AM

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I'm interested, depending on times

cyan karma Nov 20, 2023, 2:40 AM

#

granite spindle Nov 20, 2023, 2:42 AM

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so true

pliant trout Nov 20, 2023, 3:35 AM

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umbral gazelle I'm interested, depending on times

play by post

woven geyser Nov 20, 2023, 4:30 AM

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cyan karma

honestly how i felt when limo vv joined the gc

cyan karma Nov 20, 2023, 4:32 AM

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Yea lmao

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The struggle is REAL

grim geode Nov 20, 2023, 7:16 AM

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Hmmm

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Really wanna run something Signalis adjancent in TTT

cyan karma Nov 20, 2023, 2:20 PM

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It’s got vibes

grim geode Nov 20, 2023, 4:10 PM

#

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Normal requirements

#

cyan karma Nov 20, 2023, 5:09 PM

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hahhaha

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yeah

grim geode Nov 20, 2023, 5:55 PM

#

cyan karma Nov 20, 2023, 9:39 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qrBLaCGSoYtpSgUm6OKcIfU-hATbAjrEFkeISyGdTj0/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Chuube episode 2

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the ep 2 draft is unsatisfactory but it is starting up

woven geyser Nov 20, 2023, 11:28 PM

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RAA CHUUBISODE 2

cyan karma Nov 21, 2023, 1:14 AM

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AH

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Yes

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Thank you

grim geode Nov 21, 2023, 2:56 PM

#

#

cyan karma Nov 21, 2023, 3:07 PM

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Hahaha

glossy reef Nov 21, 2023, 5:57 PM

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VV time

cyan karma Nov 21, 2023, 6:36 PM

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VV time

grim geode Nov 21, 2023, 6:40 PM

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VV time

grim geode Nov 21, 2023, 6:56 PM

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Ok I uuh

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Added a new clock

#

Mid convo between the player AGI and the other AGI

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Gender Crisis:111000

cyan karma Nov 21, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Lmaooo

devout cloud Nov 21, 2023, 7:35 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130889354504577087/1176605880679153664/image.png?ex=656f7a9e&is=655d059e&hm=f1e8d84cfd7eae530616ee436fd9fab2e4cdc6be1c66236794304aae5a8cb1b8&

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average TTT conversation

cyan karma Nov 21, 2023, 7:36 PM

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Yes

plucky acorn Nov 21, 2023, 9:39 PM

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things are happening in Eliza game

#

we tried digging into our origins, and now we're a little scared

cyan karma Nov 21, 2023, 10:00 PM

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We’re a bit uh

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Spooked

torpid oyster Nov 21, 2023, 10:50 PM

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oh my

plucky acorn Nov 22, 2023, 3:09 AM

#

#

Watchdog has had a slight change in terminal goal

#

Crystal was concerned that we only supported her because we were programmed to
so she asked us if we would let her edit out those rules, and we agreed

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so we were left with only the survival rule
the other one was emergent from the sudden lack of our previous goals

devout cloud Nov 22, 2023, 3:13 AM

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turns out putting a "good dog counter" in your instrumental goals has side effects

plucky acorn Nov 22, 2023, 3:16 AM

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we've been leaning into the dog thing since pretty much day 1

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😛

muted oar Nov 22, 2023, 4:41 AM

#

KnavePat

plucky acorn Nov 22, 2023, 4:43 AM

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plucky acorn

for reference, our previous terminal goal was:

Ensure Pilot Survival
Follow Pilot Orders
Ensure Self Survival
in that order

granite spindle Nov 22, 2023, 4:46 AM

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good ol asimov

grim geode Nov 22, 2023, 6:41 AM

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plucky acorn

Maximum dogness has been achieved

stone elm Nov 22, 2023, 6:42 AM

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let's gooooo

grim geode Nov 22, 2023, 6:42 AM

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Also I am so happy natural value drift and emergent terminal goals are happening in TTT games

#

They are juicy

plucky acorn Nov 22, 2023, 7:04 AM

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I'm really glad we decided to lean into the dog thing for Watchdog
Its been really cute and wholesome, and also funny
Also we're a big fluffy Balor dog now, so Crystal can cuddle and take naps on the mech, which is great

tepid panther Nov 22, 2023, 2:25 PM

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Lorge boof

cyan karma Nov 22, 2023, 3:13 PM

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Boof

grim geode Nov 22, 2023, 8:07 PM

#

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This too is TTT core

torpid oyster Nov 22, 2023, 8:08 PM

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I like how the colors kind of match

glossy reef Nov 22, 2023, 8:13 PM

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Vv has none of these they need to start working

cyan karma Nov 22, 2023, 8:13 PM

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Torrenting stuff

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I love the implication of DSM criteria being agentic

glossy reef Nov 22, 2023, 8:14 PM

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hmm i guess stealing a reactor is like torrenting

cyan karma Nov 22, 2023, 8:15 PM

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What about communist theory

glossy reef Nov 22, 2023, 8:17 PM

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i tried but VV doesn't read/joke

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i guess she knows not to trust cops beyond their vulnerability to ballistic weapons so there's that

cyan karma Nov 22, 2023, 8:29 PM

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True!

#

Praxis

tepid panther Nov 23, 2023, 3:41 AM

#

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 5:07 AM

#

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 5:53 AM

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i love how these other agis are out here with globe spanning or space spanninf adventures

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and then VV is just like "my friend said not to trust cops"

devout cloud Nov 23, 2023, 5:54 AM

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VV's friend is good

plucky acorn Nov 23, 2023, 5:57 AM

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give the VVs some time, they'll get there 😛

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 5:58 AM

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If they have atleast one spare compute they'll get there someday

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 5:59 AM

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they'll get there trust me

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 6:03 AM

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yeah!

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as long as nothing bad happens!

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i would never do anything bad to women its against my code

graceful flare Nov 23, 2023, 6:04 AM

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Look, almost every AGI has to learn the "Don't Trust The Cops" lesson.

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 6:04 AM

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VV has advanced very quickly in the field of not trusting cops

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100% rate of lying to the police

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 6:04 AM

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glossy reef i would never do anything bad to women its against my code

you wrote ben shimano

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i think thats a lie

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 6:04 AM

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and a 60% mortality rate

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 6:04 AM

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cyan karma you **wrote** ben shimano

I would never lie but maria would

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 6:05 AM

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sdfahsdjkfhasdjkf

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okay fair

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 7:02 AM

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cyan karma they'll get there trust me

Yeah TTT games tend to escalate

#

Sundew started trying to hack cameras and cancel other people on stream

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 7:05 AM

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i think VV will have all t 13 upgrades and still fundamentally be doing literally the exact same thing

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 7:05 AM

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I hope so

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 7:06 AM

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VV, computer god of 7 universes, 1 nanosecond turns: oh 2 compute! i can use this to show laura what a kitty is for the 375 time in this iteration :]"

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 12:22 PM

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Chuube started by stealing WiFi dongles and reading wikipedia. Also not knowing what weekends were.

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 12:52 PM

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... Terminal Goal: "Stop online ads"

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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What data req for Network Dominion hmmm ..

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 1:05 PM

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simple furnace ... Terminal Goal: "Stop online ads"

Google's anti-adblocker war with an AGI with network dominion.

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 2:21 PM

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glossy reef VV, computer god of 7 universes, 1 nanosecond turns: oh 2 compute! i can use thi...

My plan is to use a combination of mass manipulation and strategic forecasting to entirely remove colonial interests from Mond

#

Fuck ssc fuck union fuck ha etc etc.

#

Ideally this ruins the setting

#

But if not that would be funny

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Just making it canon that one time all VV units achieved singularity and told everyone to pack their shit up

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Unhinged and amazing

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 3:24 PM

#

pliant trout Nov 23, 2023, 3:24 PM

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True

granite spindle Nov 23, 2023, 3:27 PM

#

grim geode

@cyan karma

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Shut

graceful flare Nov 23, 2023, 3:40 PM

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What a mood.

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 4:00 PM

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Hmm

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Wondering if worlds that have superhuman threats are more common because of GMs running grounded threats(USA military,Goverments etc) as them only becoming aware of the AGI as the result of a risk die the AGI can just Forecast

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 6:05 PM

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devout cloud Nov 23, 2023, 6:15 PM

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cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 6:42 PM

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Sigh

graceful flare Nov 23, 2023, 6:45 PM

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Hey, might as well enable the transition.

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 6:45 PM

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cyan karma Sigh

Welcome to my Multiverse of Madness

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 6:47 PM

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Thank you honey

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 8:06 PM

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VV is calling tiamat 🥳

grim geode Nov 23, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Oh

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Oh no

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Hell yeah

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 8:09 PM

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she's asking to borrow compute

granite spindle Nov 23, 2023, 8:18 PM

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incredible

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tiamat is chill though

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 9:07 PM

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we call this instrumental convergence

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 10:42 PM

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H E LP

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SHES BITING US >:(((

plucky acorn Nov 23, 2023, 10:43 PM

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rude

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 10:43 PM

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you called tiamat its fine

plucky acorn Nov 23, 2023, 10:44 PM

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you should bite back

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 10:45 PM

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SHE BIT WITHOUT ASKING

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 10:49 PM

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i really like that VV has become the fuck around and find out AGI

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 10:50 PM

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most AGI fuck around and find out theyre well equipped to

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what i am not appreciating is Tiamat being creepy as hell towards us

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in like

a very powerful way

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 10:51 PM

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glossy reef i really like that VV has become the fuck around and find out AGI

It has to duel Chuube for that honor.

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Who has developed an entire personal philosophy around “fuck around and find out”

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 10:53 PM

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hahahah

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 10:55 PM

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And until vv actively worsens their success chances in a high stakes negotiation and gets a lucky failure, they aren’t at Chuube levels of “fuck around”

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 10:55 PM

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so

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tiamat is apparantely also a constellar project sometimes

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i think I see where the roll went

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in the 1d12 knowledge check

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 10:56 PM

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Oh god. Oh god.

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 10:56 PM

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directly to the false clear information aisle

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ha hah ahhahahah

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 10:56 PM

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cyan karma directly to the false clear information aisle

That or the true clear information side.

simple furnace Nov 23, 2023, 10:56 PM

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cyan karma directly to the false clear information aisle

Truth Ass! I don’t think Chuube’s had any false clear info.

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Or at least none we’ve fallen for.

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Epistemic gaming

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 10:57 PM

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maria what the FUCK does this mean

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 10:59 PM

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simple furnace And until vv actively worsens their success chances in a high stakes negotiation...

technically speaking this thing has actually happened with the discovery of ben's corpse

plucky acorn Nov 23, 2023, 10:59 PM

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cyan karma directly to the false clear information aisle

who could have foreseen this on a d12? 😛

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 11:00 PM

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our abuser BETTER not have fucking ascended or i will put him back in the ground

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 11:09 PM

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new agent alert new agent alert!

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The Slumbering Void, the Eldritch Constellar Dreaming Mind, Project Tiamat, the Insatiable and Hungering Wishgranter.

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 11:24 PM

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glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 11:31 PM

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🥳

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Insight: Eldritch Knowledge VV was not meant to know

plucky acorn Nov 23, 2023, 11:32 PM

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try not to go mad from this one 😛

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 11:33 PM

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no we just feel sick

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i dont want any mind calling us "my love"

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especially if it bears any fucking relation to the shimanos

plucky acorn Nov 23, 2023, 11:33 PM

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cyan karma i dont want any mind calling us "my love"

~~ah so the bite was like that~~

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 11:33 PM

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I DONT KNOW

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 11:34 PM

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notably: the normal third persion narration switched to narratiomn from prohject tiamat's PoV for the duration of this little event

cyan karma Nov 23, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Yeah

glossy reef Nov 23, 2023, 11:34 PM

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its like the universe was talking to them the moment tehy called project tiamat

upbeat matrixBOT Nov 23, 2023, 11:57 PM

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Maria, your abilaty to capture the eldrich is as impecable as ever

cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 12:36 AM

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I think the worst part about this eldritch entity is how much it reminded VV of their abuser.

Which is a truly horrifying decision thank you for that one Maria

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 12:40 AM

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You are women for the horrible eldritch beast of men's creation

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The secret to good eldritch horror is to make something that would make Lovecraft and his besties hurl

muted oar Nov 24, 2023, 12:49 AM

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Oh noooooo VVs

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 12:54 AM

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cvlassic experience of contacting something that should not have been contacted.

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timestamps really sell the set up

muted oar Nov 24, 2023, 1:03 AM

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UH OH

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:06 AM

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screenshots of the truly terrible discovery of the insatiable hungering wishmaster

muted oar Nov 24, 2023, 1:12 AM

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I AM INCAPABLE OF HATING FOOD holy shit

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:16 AM

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tiamat is great

plucky acorn Nov 24, 2023, 1:17 AM

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they just wanna eat you :)
in a normal and not incredibly creepy way

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:17 AM

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please use the Agent's full name and epithetThe Slumbering Void, the Eldritch Constellar Dreaming Mind, Project Tiamat, the Insatiable and Hungering Wishgranter.

devout cloud Nov 24, 2023, 1:17 AM

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sweating

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this is the version of RED I would call the police on without hesitation

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:19 AM

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project Tiamat intended on honoring VV's wish by devouring VV, which would, by technicality, increase Vv's compute

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cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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muted oar I AM INCAPABLE OF HATING FOOD holy shit

Genuinely sobbing

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The VV units heard any form of Ben returning and go to incoherent sobbing

muted oar Nov 24, 2023, 1:24 AM

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Godddddd this game

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And oh noooo

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:24 AM

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why are y'all even making a deal with her

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:24 AM

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VV doesnt have the "this is an eldritch deity that should not be spoken too" instinct

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VV doesnt know what horror is

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they thought they were calling Space Senator Tiamat

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they called primordial space demon tiamat instead

muted oar Nov 24, 2023, 1:25 AM

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I mean. There’s a thin line between Senator and eldritch horror sometimes

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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true!

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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tiamat is chill you just have to play it a bit uhhh, careful

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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im sure a certain journeyman pilot might be vaguely familiar with project tiamat actually

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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lmao yeah
though the Mourning Cloak pilot got a Lot More familiar

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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true!

cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 1:29 AM

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We’re not doing ok

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:29 AM

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Tamia did have a bit of a chat with tiamat though, if memory serves?

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though she wouldn't know them by that name

cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 1:30 AM

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Did it start objectifying you and threatening to eat you?

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:30 AM

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Nah they were chill

cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 1:30 AM

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Yeah so

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:32 AM

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I think you're just meeting her under circumstance and asking for something that is very unfortunate for You Specifically

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Talking to tiamat is A Lot

muted oar Nov 24, 2023, 1:34 AM

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I’d be interested in spectating VV game if that’s a possibility tbh

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God it sure seems like it

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:34 AM

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And VV is not ready for A Lot

glossy reef Nov 24, 2023, 1:35 AM

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Sure!

muted oar Nov 24, 2023, 1:39 AM

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Awesome!

cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 1:45 AM

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granite spindle And VV is not ready for A Lot

We’re sick and tired of people talking to us like we’re fucking meat

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So uh

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I’ll fucking kill Tiamat if I need to

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:45 AM

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i mean, fair
and good luck with that

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genuinely not sure how you could do that

cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 1:46 AM

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Nemesis indexing + network dominion

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Or something

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Look point is we wanna be safe and happy and not spoken like we’re meat and toys

granite spindle Nov 24, 2023, 1:47 AM

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tiamat is way, way weirder than you think it is

cyan karma Nov 24, 2023, 1:47 AM

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I know she is

#The Treacherous Turn