Dungeons and Dragons

[arctic yew]

Well,I am kinda looking for a whole new ruleset

[craggy cloak]

ah, no experience there im afraid, i dont homebrew

good luck though!

[frail hull]

well, easiest way would either: have materials one can find in the world that when added to magic items, cant give extra enchantments. or, have the player find an artisan who can both remove magic from items and then add the newer enchantment for the right price.

[craggy cloak]

4e had something like that built in, it was nice; you could recycle old magic items or if the party rolled one the group couldnt use refurbish it into another item

[obsidian jasper]

so my dm allowed me to change stuff about my characters (class and subclass) bc ye

I want big damage with explosives but idk if artificer is good at that, whaat do you guys think?

[craggy cloak]

artificer does tend to be more of a support role as-is

If you want really big damage from a spellcaster, I still think Sorc and Cleric are the go-tos

[obsidian jasper]

alr

but artificers were the one creating explosives right?

[craggy cloak]

5e artificers can make certain magic items, and you could use some spells as explosions; the 5e Artillerist can make cannons that can shoot explosions

[arctic yew]

kinda

they are

...not very good

the good turrets are all support

[craggy cloak]

Its still in the realm of what theyre asking for

[arctic yew]

so

i have a thing that is gonna (maybe) happen in the next session

.....i dont know how dickish it would be so i want to run it through you guys

so,the party was infiltrating a noble's party to try and steal a invitation for a magic restaurant that she got. they need it because the restaurant owners kidnapped someone and theyre trying to retrieve her.

unknown to the party,there were two completely different groups in there. a thief,trying to get the noble's riches,and a group of vampires,also trying to get the invitation for their own goals

shit happened,and they captured the thief

making a MASSIVE scene

they thought the thief was after the invitation,so instead of trying to steal it they decided to offer themselves as bodyguards to her on her way to the restaurant since her own guards apparently let a thief through.

she accepted,and they returned base to prepare for the next day

....witouth their knowledge,the vampire group stayed behind and when they were alone with the noble,they used their hypnosis powers to make her take then as their bodyguards instead.

how mean would it be for then to wake up tomorrow and hear her going "hey,actually i dont need you all anymore,a very close and very competent group of friends offered their services and i am taking then instead,bye."

[frail hull]

If you make it obvious that the noble was under mind control, not too dickish.

[proud osprey]

we finished session 4

they are in the big city now

we are running on "Real Time" noiw

gygax would be proud

[lament geode]

My players have gotten to the Temple of the Oracle in our Dragonlords game

They successfully cowed the Order of Sydon soldiers to let them through

and are going to take on a hag next go-round

[proud osprey]

meanwhile my party have just rocked up at the Hammer Hearth Inn in Dóthtown, the Dwarven district of Mollebourg. it is the 13th day of summer. time will now progress linearly. lots to be done

[proud osprey]

end of act 1 of book 1

act 2: summer in the city

act 3: THE BELCROIX ARC (assuming the players win the grand tourney)

[proud osprey]

thinking about stuff happening Out There

the Plague Knights

the Silver Swords

the Prophet King

sigh

back to solo d&d

i’ve got an NPC to save

previously, i left Linhart, a Scout, to guard our campsite while Peyton recovered from his wounds and i sought out the dungeon

god

wish me luck

[proud osprey]

shit

i got Linhart killed

i went back for backup after some of the spiders destroyed an orc i met

and he died rescuing his friend

she did however turn out to be recruitable, a first level wizard

back to Bywold

sigh

[craggy cloak]

Whats your setup for this

How do you do your solo stuff

[proud osprey]

it’s set in my world

in a less “civilised” region where there’s still a lot of adventuring to be done, near the Dwarfhold but still in the Empire’s western frontiers

i rolled up a character, Marx, a Human Fighter, with rolled stats, and rolled money, then bought him some equipment

i roll random encounters on a d10 (wilderness), d12 (sparse population) or d20 (somewhere patrolled or otherwise “civilised”). if i get a 1, encounter. then i roll on a table. there are lots of these. so far i have used the XGTE ones.

[craggy cloak]

I dig it

[proud osprey]

when i run into an intelligent or sapient NPC or NPCs, i decide on a d6 what their disposition is (usually 1/2 hostile, 3/4 neutral, 5/6 friendly, but i adjust this as appropriate)

i randomly generate towns, taverns, dungeons, etc. and i make sure to eat, drink, rest, set up camps, etc

also. i two-hit a phase spider with 41 HP. i might be god

though linhart died, hilde, his friend, is a wizard who can join the crew. so now i’m going to roll her up

i’ve also been travelling with peyton, but he got his ass handed to him and badly poisoned, so he rested while linhart and i went to rescue hilde

so i will not be recruiting him because his stats are dogshit

and then i just journal it

[proud osprey]

thanks :)

[craggy cloak]

Excellent doodles too

[proud osprey]

thank you

i’m just having fun with it

i’m also rollin 3d6 for everyone’s stats

this makes them less good, thus will probably lead to a more “ship of theseus” party style

rolled 7, 11, 12, 12, 14, 16 for hilde. and 120 for money. 50 of which goes STRAIGHT to purchasing a spellbook

5 to the staff

what else should she have

gonna keep her light

im wondering what kind of spells she should have

what kind of wizard she should be

[craggy cloak]

I like abjuration

[proud osprey]

could be fun

i feel like the gang needs to recruit some able-bodied motherfuckers

and by the gang i do mean the wandering swordsman and a slightly traumatised young woman he’s acquired

wait how old are these guys

ooh found a table for it

okay. he’s actually 18. she’s 23.

not what i expected

saved her ass

poor linhart huh

shame we fumbled the medicine checks and he died in a cave

okay there are 310 people in Bywold

i’d say 10% of that, or 31 of them, are viable recruits

with 10% of THAT, so 3 being viable PARTY members

i would rly like to run a vaguely old school game for the right group, the right people, out in the wilds

tracking torches. tracking arrows. tracking rations.

buying tents. buying bedrolls. buying blankets. so you don’t freeze to death.

buying a hunting trap, or fishing equipment, so you can eat

very like. “in-line” races. like nothing super alien, like i allow for the more eclectic high fantasy games. something like a tiefling is pushing it, because shit man you’ve gotta go back into town sometimes and not everyone in this superstitious backwater hell is going to be super keen to sell rope and oil and shit to a literal devilman

pulpy, sword n sorcery, gritty shit

[craggy cloak]

Its a neat experience

[proud osprey]

yeah

not the game i always wanna run

but this is basically the first time i’ve gotten to scratch that itch in like

four years? six years?

[tepid crane]

What ruleset would you use?

[proud osprey]

shrug

whatever suits. i’m just doing fine running a gradually homebrewed 5e game

[tepid crane]

What are the core homebrew of your 5e game?

Just curious what big components you’ve altered

[proud osprey]

nothing drastic yet. lots of little things

[tepid crane]

Nothics are my favourite dnd monster I think

Very spooky and perfect for crawling around in libraries

[frail hull]

Homerules I tend to use are critical hits do max plus the normal role ( there is a name for it, but can't remember) disadvantage/ advantage are canceled on a 1 for 1 basis , not all or nothing, short rests only heal 1 HD and long rest only up to 4HD. And monks can take thier bonus movmemts without spending ki.

[tepid crane]

I like your resting rules

[frail hull]

Thanks. Was trying to make fights have some stakes without disrupting play to much.

[proud osprey]

this

had this for the ruins of an old abbey. that no one visited

[proud osprey]

crunchy critical or something

[tepid crane]

Promps for not quantum ogre’ing it

[proud osprey]

he’s about, babblin n shit

made some trees for tabletop terrain

[obsidian jasper]

My friend invited me to a oneshot only for him to start bragging about how strong the bbeg is

So I took this as a challenge

What lvl 6 build would you guys say has the highest possible damage

[obsidian jasper]

If possible a life steal build would be funny

[dapper fulcrum]

Hexblade action surge magic missile massacre

[obsidian jasper]

About how much damage am I looking at

Also the enemy is immune to magic

Just found out

[dapper fulcrum]

Be a martial

Heh

[obsidian jasper]

Could I wall of force plus cloud of daggers

[dapper fulcrum]

Immune to magic you said

[obsidian jasper]

So

Cloud of daggers deals slashing damage

Which isn’t negated

And

I can get a scroll for wall of force

As the robot doesn’t have a negating field

It’s cooked

[dapper fulcrum]

Still from a spell though

So its magic

[obsidian jasper]

Idk how my friend wants it to work

[arctic yew]

Would you count "ommiting the truth" on a vow to not tell lies

[arctic yew]

like,lets say youre a paladin and your friends are doing some shady shit

if your oath included "never tell lies",would you break it by just going along but never being active on it

[pure elm]

Personally I would not count omission as lying

[frail hull]

I mean. Unless you were asked about it, just being there would not be a lie. Lies of omission are an interesting topic though. I guess it depends on how literal the paladins diety takes the oath.

[stable falcon]

I think most paladins would benefit from a pikuach nefesh clause in their oaths.

(Essentially, "life first": If you need to break a tenet to save a life, do it.)

[arctic yew]

My party is trying to pass as a bunch of demons for a demon worshipping cult before we murder then and my 12 foot tall faceless robot paladin just

refused to say a word. he never said he was part of a demon retinue,he just didnt deny it.

[frail hull]

There is thebold Greek philosophy that all actors are liars by default, but I could see the patron excepting that the act is for the greater good, and if remaining silent didn't raise any suspicions?

[craggy cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZU56vBluow

[arctic yew]

i dont even know if i have a deity at this point

the lore of the boy is very convoluted

[obsidian jasper]

Magic blender is apparently

Allowed

This is gonna be a fun „unkillable“ boss

[proud osprey]

no wonder the big bad wolf fucked up the three lil pigs

[stable falcon]

I mean, aren't most performance checks in 4e Bluff checks?

[frail hull]

No idea, most that I do are either intimidation or persuasion. But I guess 5e uses bluff alot

[tepid crane]

is 5.5 still doing epic hardcover campaigns or have they said they would focus on modules?

[craggy cloak]

isnt that the same thing

[proud osprey]

FOOL

i think cheese means like are we getting the modern 4th and 5th edition style “adventure books” which are big ol lavish hardcovers or more old school fantasy roleplaying modules á la 74-99

3e goes unmentioned there because there’s quite a lot of both

[modest echo]

5e had one or two collections of smaller dungeons/adventures

[craggy cloak]

huh, i didnt know it was different

ive always seen modules as all of that

but ive only played 4th/5th

[proud osprey]

they were released as hardbacks

there were quite a few

[proud osprey]

tbh that’s fair i think the language got grandfathered in for ease of communication

[tepid crane]

Yeah I know 5e had a singular anthology but short little modules are so great for keeping a campaign alive

I don’t think I’ve ever completed a whole 5e adventure book

[craggy cloak]

interesting, you just want the bits and pieces

i pretty much only run adventure books

[proud osprey]

i never run published content unless it’s short enough to steal from for a brief adventure in my world

[tepid crane]

Well if you get burnt out half way through playing one then that’s a lot of time effectively lost

[craggy cloak]

im the opposite of harry... his shadow

[proud osprey]

that’s why i love classic 70s and 80s shit for that

hommlet, tsojcanth, all that shit

[tepid crane]

I have stuck hommlet away in a corner of my campaign setting

[proud osprey]

i’ve literally got a hardback two part reproduction set of hommlet and the temple of elemental evil

[tepid crane]

But it’s hard to find 5e specific content for this

[craggy cloak]

im in it for the story, the plot, the overarching tracks i can put the party on

[proud osprey]

hommlet exists somewhere. i ran a heavily edited version of it two years ago for my good friends

[proud osprey]

oh i can come up with that stuff myself

[tepid crane]

Well you can have a big over-arching campaign goal but a few unrelated tiny adventures to use as travel stops are nice

[craggy cloak]

I really like a lot of the established stuff, its fun to do with those

but also it has level constraints

[proud osprey]

like it’s cool to be like “hey we’re playing this for the next couple months” so they have context but i also love watching my players connect the dots on all the moving parts of this world

[craggy cloak]

i know im just dealing with, say, lv1-10

[proud osprey]

like once michael, the druid, realises that the gostwood is in the midst of civil war, he’ll be like SHIT that’s my house

once luc, the paladin, realises that his father is the ultimate bad guy of this entire campaign, that’ll make for some crazy shit

[craggy cloak]

for sure i see the appeal ive been in those campaigns as a player

as a DM I just really, really like all the benefits of a boxed adventure

[proud osprey]

once jodie, the barbarian, has spent some time with her character’s uncle and i have him die saving the party from their offensive endeavours, then im sorted

[tepid crane]

How will that info be delivered

[proud osprey]

real

[modest echo]

hommlet sounds made up
i wouldn't believe that was a real thing except that i trust you

[tepid crane]

Gygax was shit at naming things

[proud osprey]

well they’re in the capital of a different province many miles away, but news will travel here because the emperor is staying for the summer festival before he returns for centenary celebrations to the imperial capital (he won’t do this, he dies at the end of the summer festival)

[proud osprey]

how do you rag on this one and not fucking TSOJCANTH

[craggy cloak]

also boxed adventures get a lot of community support and i love taking from that stuff it rules

[proud osprey]

real

this is what i’m saying tho

i love stealing a dungeon or a town or an organisation and tweaking it

but everything ultimately has to be mine

[tepid crane]

It’s hard to steal from the big box adventures as well because they are almost never able to be cleanly transported

[craggy cloak]

I like to see myself as more of an arbiter than a creator

[proud osprey]

hommlet was, in fact, gilcrest. strahd was olgimsky. barovia was the mistlands. etc

[craggy cloak]

i want to run what someone else has done

[proud osprey]

yeah, too much work. hence old school modular play

you get a sense from reading gaming publications c. that time that people thought of their games as taking place in a connected universe or multiverse

[craggy cloak]

being able to go okay, i have the Witchlight book, i have everything i need in here to play, its real nice

[proud osprey]

fair

i mean it’s definitely more work that i’ll have to do on my end

but hey

[craggy cloak]

i used to have more time for it

but it is what it is

[proud osprey]

i should maybe use my time better

but my life is pretty meaningless

[tepid crane]

It’s also easier to let new players join and old ones leave with this format I find

Idk it flows pretty well for me and I get a whole story in 3 to 4 sessions which is satisfying when I can’t trust people to be dedicated to a 7 month epic

[proud osprey]

yeah even when i homebrew stuff

i.e. the town of setille and the bandits of crusoe, which took up 4 sessions of the campaign pretty much

[arctic yew]

I absolutely HATE the static +x weapons in DND. They boring. But I need to give a player one because of balance at this point

What s a good effect to give a +1 lance to make it feel more fantastical

[sage vector]

Oh! uhhhh... what's the character who will be using it like?

Like, if they're stealing it from a guy, what was the guy they're strealing it from like? Or if it's specifically for a player character, what are they like?

[dapper fulcrum]

Steal the Weapon Masteries from the 2024 PHB

[arctic yew]

They're buying it from a mythical cat that sells magic.

He is a dragon-riding soldier from fantasy victorian england

[sage vector]

Ohhhhh lets see... any new technologies entering the vogue? Like steam works or anything?

[arctic yew]

i am just stealing pameli's spear for the design

[arctic yew]

The technology of the setting is

..... weird

[sage vector]

this spear?

[arctic yew]

Correct

....i spent like,7 minutes isolating it

I am bad at edifing

[sage vector]

Black Halft -
A spear for deadly night riders, known to swoop in and take out entire squads with a single pass. Proficiency times per short rest, when the user is in darkness or dim light and hits with an attack, they may reroll their damage die. They must take the second result.

All you need is a single cut when people can't see where all the blood is coming from.

[dapper fulcrum]

Uncommon rarity or higher

You can juice up its effect a bit if it has limited charges

[arctic yew]

I am also working on a thing to

Add enchantments to weapons

So this will prolly be a long term investment

[sage vector]

What do you think Boxing?

it pretty much allows the user some satisfaction of scoring decent hits, so less scenarios of hitting and rolling minimal damage.

[craggy cloak]

slap the Ring of Jumping effect on that bad boy

[arctic yew]

....hehe

About that

....my games use crunchy crits

A PC or two have been munched,but they like it

[sage vector]

I mean it's usable on general hits rather than crits

[craggy cloak]

i mostly like to use movement-style effects or exploration effects for magic items to give martials nice utility moments

[sage vector]

It's more for the meat of the fight than the big crit moments

If the character is dragon mounted though I'm not sure that's going to be very useful, unless it transfers to their mount

[arctic yew]

.....you know what that reminds me of

That design reminds me of

Chess

And the character is a mounted knight

And a strategist

Hmmmmnng

There is something here

I feel it

[dapper fulcrum]

Jumping

Teleporting?

[sage vector]

Hmmm
When coming to a stop after movement the user may use their reaction to make an attack 10 ft to the left or right of directly where they've stopped. Can perform this level number of times per long rest.

So it takes their reaction but if they land perfectly they can get a free swipe in at someone AND the person they were charging at

[frail hull]

While holding the spear the user may teliport up to 30 ft to any area in shadow they can see and make an attack as part of this move. If the attack hits, target is knocked prone by the force of the impact.

[sage vector]

that's a little strong. free constant prone attacks with no save?

[frail hull]

Well, they have to teliport as well, so in light it's a normal Lance?

Probably put like 3 charges a day

[craggy cloak]

i think battlemaster's movement maneuvers could be good to steal here too

idk what your games balanced around tho

[arctic yew]

Lots of good ideas here

[sage vector]

I'm hoping for some cool monk magic items in the game I'm taking part in

not sure what they will be

but monk!

Pawnch

[dapper fulcrum]

If you want uhh published monk items for inspiration, check out Wraps of Unarmed Prowess, Eldritch Claw Tattoo and Dragonhide Belt

[arctic yew]

They only took 12 years to give us magical punchies

[sage vector]

We found outselves in what was basically skaven tunnels and Edna became a menace because we're low level and she was the only one who could take a corner at full speed and crump a rat who was trying to retreat. Smash the rat guy's head into a wall while going full speed and use him as sonic bounce pad to chase down the bigger one and shove a hand into their skull

playing with sight lines and basically having Edna roll around the corner at top speed, pummel two guys to death, then disappear back around the corner, like the wizard just summoned her Stand to battle the rats

the new tavern brawler talent really is strong for monks

being able to reroll 1's for damage is just great, plus a free push back

I'm looking forward to getting Charger too, which means my speed makes me all the more dangerous.

[frail hull]

Boots of spider climb are good for monks

[sage vector]

It would certainly help with my desire to run up walls

I've always sort of wanted a weapon that turns speed into damage

like it's a drag net that you toss on someone and you just keep running around and damaging them

[tepid crane]

remember the "Mach 1 Tabaxi Monk"

[sage vector]

I remember with great fondness

[craggy cloak]

yo our dm commissioned custom map-art of our Spelljammer

its kinda sick as hell

meet the Ocean Court Express: Ace Nebula

[arctic yew]

Shork

[sage vector]

shork :3

I've been having an idea for a game and not sure how fun it'd be
Each player gets one overpowered but limited thing, which is meant to be a secret from everyone.
And basically get a list of ideas of what that OP could be. Like:

1. you are a reincarnated arch mage who is from a thousand years ago who is giving it another go from the ground up, but you have one use of Time Stop every long rest, just in case.
2. You are royalty of the kingdom. You're not really hiding from your family, they support you doing this, and they love you and are willing to support you if you approach them.
3. You're immortal. Just straight immortality. Not invulnerable, but you'll heal eventually. You're also only recently immortal so you're about as untrained as anyone else.

Any others you can think of?

[dapper fulcrum]

4. Once every seven days you can manifest the blessing of the Reaper which allows you to, as an action, Fucking Kill Someone immediately if theyre within your line of sight

5. A wizard blessed your knapsack which lets you pull out a magic item of your choice from it, which disappears after 1 minute.

[sage vector]

I always worry about instant kill abilities because I always feel like it'll just nuke a boss fight and make it not fun. Buuut once a week might make it worth it yeah.

[sage vector]

6. You have a pet. The pet is immortal. They love you. They will never be troubled. They can talk, either to just you or to everyone. They can grow and shrink. The DM will do a funny voice for them.

7. Once per initiative, crit on demand.

[obsidian jasper]

What does that mean?

[obsidian jasper]

You can open a gate to some fucked up plane and let whatever is in there out for 1 minute

[arctic yew]

When someone crits,instead of rolling fr the extra damage they deal their normal damage+ the maximum possible crit damage roll

[obsidian jasper]

I need that

[obsidian jasper]

Alr

Magic blender won’t work

For some reason the robot can now just walk through walls

So I’ll use heat metal

[dapper fulcrum]

martial

heh

[arctic yew]

It also applies globally

So if a enemy crits you

A dragon for example,instead of 4d10+2d6+6 would deal

2d10+1d6+20+6+6

[obsidian jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[obsidian jasper]

Silvery barbs

[proud osprey]

thinking i should write up my own d&d rule book

not as a separate game, but to codify my home game of specifically d&d

because other games are for playing other games

whereas my home game gets denser and denser by the week

[modest echo]

put it on Kickstarter

one million dollars

[proud osprey]

one BILLION dollars

[grave hollow]

One Morbillion Dollars

[proud osprey]

now we’re talking

but yeah

get it all drafted up

all the player stuff, all the gm stuff

maybe print it out some time

all the world stuff that integrates with the player and gm stuff, like prayers

some of the tweaks i wanna make to individual classes or races or spells

an equipment list that’s a little more comprehensive

talk about currencies

[obsidian jasper]

My friend REALLY doesn’t want me killing his unkillable boss so he’s now pulling random stuff out of his mind

This is slightly annoying

[proud osprey]

that doesn’t sound fun

[obsidian jasper]

Well I’m not supposed to kill it either lmao

Anyway

What class would you guys recommend if I want to wield something like a spear (with some added flavour) but still be able to cast magic properly as to not fall off in late game (and mid game)

[modest echo]

Druid?

[cosmic geyser]

Cleric? It depends on what you mean by “cast magic properly”

[obsidian jasper]

I want to be able to do stuff like 9th lvel spells if possible

[obsidian jasper]

don't they like mostly have buffs and crowd control?

I was thinking 1 or 2 levels of hexblade and then sorcerer but idk

if clerics the better option I'll take cleric

[modest echo]

Druids get to ninth level spells

[obsidian jasper]

I just don't like clerics bc as soon as someone has healing a certian player will annoy you bc he doesn't think and just runs in

[obsidian jasper]

then that's a plus

[arctic yew]

Druid can do it,but cleric has dedicated martial stuff if you want to look at it

Warcleric for example

[cosmic geyser]

I mean… you’re probably going to have that problem if you play either cleric or druid, since both classes are more support-based. Not that Cleric/Druid can’t do damage, mind you. It’s just that the two classes are more built around supporting allies; the ability for said classes to deal beaucoup damage via magic is icing on the cake

[obsidian jasper]

Also I think we have a Druid already (my friend)

[craggy cloak]

just dont take any healing spells and tell 'em to deal with it

[proud osprey]

our druid can technically heal

[proud osprey]

guys is it bad i kind of halfway want the overarching villains of my campaign world to win?

i want so badly for there to be an age of darkness

it would be so COOL

[dapper fulcrum]

I mean it ups the stakes dont it

Also thats how ff6 went iirc

[frail hull]

Should totally do a big time skip after the villan wins. Drop the players in the familiar. But horribly wrong world they now inhabit.

[proud osprey]

ff6. berserk. fire emblem 4. a song of ice and fire like twice. etc

lots of goodies

[proud osprey]

yeah right like

okay your characters are either all dead or with few survivors. we’ll pick up much later. level one, several years into this apocalyptic nightmare. it is a dark and rainy night. lightning splits the sky. your wagon creaks as it trudges along the road, wheels caked in mud, as it approaches the imposing stone walls that wreathe the town of Belhaven in comforting protection.

aboard your cart, the carcass of a monster you intend to sell for parts. closer than the last one, so they said, seen wandering out of the Brude Swamp, close to the once-verdant Belhaven Meadows

where children once played

i just

SOME DAY man i really want somebody to successfully pull off the twilight cascade

and plunge the world into the abyssal midnight

[frail hull]

Hum, I think I would go a different route myself . More have the original group survive, but we find them on the run, where once they were heros. They are now treated as pariah and are hunted by knights wearing the very sigils that the heros once fought for.

[proud osprey]

well! both are good

but if the party’s fates were less positive

[frail hull]

True. An entire party of orphans out to avenge the deaths of thier parents at the hands of the BBEG

[proud osprey]

a troubled bounty hunter, a wizard who lost it all in the collapse, a rogue whose survival is almost easier now with the dissolution of law, a cleric to a desolated god

[tepid crane]

is that the world ending threat of your game?

[proud osprey]

sort of

[proud osprey]

the great hexarchs, forbidden demon gods who helped incite the fall of cadia 50,000 years ago, would return, made manifest. or at least some of them. and create hell on earth

[obsidian jasper]

Alr I’ll look into cleric

Cleric uses wisdom right?

[obsidian jasper]

So from what I’ve seen cleric isn’t the thing I’m looking for

[proud osprey]

gonna do some d&d work this evening

work on the prayer system, maybe a lil worldbuilding

[tepid crane]

like prayers anyone can do or just clerics?

[proud osprey]

praying is a Thing

you don’t have to be a cleric (or paladin (or warlock)) to serve a god

you can be a druid, a fighter, a rogue, whatever

it’s about a few things

alignment plays into it

you roll d100 for it

sorry i’m back

you roll d100 for it, hoping for your level if your character is religious, half rounded down if this is more of a reaching out to faith kind of moment.

say you’re a 7th level cleric. roll d100. you get a 6. cool. you’re officially given a the blessing of your god

you are later able to gain the favour and boon of the god assuming certain requirements are met

i need to work those all out mechanically

but say, blessing of the god of death (the good death god that is) is to grant advantage on saving throws for a day, their favour might be something like immunity to necrotic damage, or something, also for a day and then maybe their boon would be that first feature but in perpetuity

and this would require layers of obedience, from success with a prayer to devout worship of the god, and so on

[arctic yew]

my favorite part of today's session was

when i out of the blue just had the king's personal mage appear to the party and ask for a human skull,with no questions asked

and the ranger just pulls one from his bag

[proud osprey]

the ranger belongs on a watch list

[dapper fulcrum]

If its an orc skull or a kobold skull or a goblin skull its fine

But if they dare have a human skull-

[obsidian jasper]

I had a dnd character that had one and a half human skeletons with him

[sage vector]

Tombs are full of interesting nicknacks and curios

[obsidian jasper]

They weren’t originally just skeletons

[proud osprey]

and snacks :)

[arctic yew]

f my players did have a curse on the last session
she happened by a woman with sunken,dry eyes,blackened necrotic skin and wheezing breath who begged to be killed

she did. after 3 minutes,the corpse got up,their wounds healed and their body seemed healthy again. she left,saying "i am sorry. dont tell anyone,or it wont go away"

she is rotting while alive. the only way to reverse it is to be killed by someone else to pass the curse. if she tells anyone about it,it becomes permanent.

[timber sleet]

our barbarian was up doing crazy amounts of damage and throwing axes and stuff, our artificer was casting fireball left and right and shooting people with guns, our monk was matrix-dodging everything and at one point grabbed a yuan-ti by the fangs, our druid was turning into all kinds of animals, and i was sitting 120 feet away and shooting people
rogues are effective but a bit boring in combat, especially ranged ones 😭

im glad im getting better at rp though so i can take advantage of that part of the rogue's kit a little better

[arctic yew]

I mean, you were doing exactly the same thing as the barbarian

The only difference is in the wording

[timber sleet]

well the barbarian was using different weapons and stuff, he threw axes and swung his greatsword, plus went into a rage and did frenzy stuff, i was just shooting the same hand crossbow every turn
i dont think there was a single turn of that fight for me that wasnt "walk out of corner, sneak attack with hand crossbow, walk back behind corner"

[frail hull]

That's one thing I like about new rouge, is that you can trade sneak attack dice for other benefits. Really helps with the idea of the sniper as battlefield Control.

[frail hull]

So, been trying to figure out a reason that the various kingdoms in the world I'm fleshing out wouldn't keep standing armies with each other. And this is what bubbled out of my brain.

Let it be known, in this place, and in this time, that a pact has been formed between the Kingdoms of Astoria, Fermak, Holy See of Mercia, Terminus, Islands of Awan'wa, Grisoir Hives, and the Free Companies of the Third Verse. That all present have agreed to end all conflicts with each other, stand down all armies, and to never again raise such forces for any other purpose than defence. May this pact be blessed, and enforced by all the gods above and below. And may the WISH of peace forever burn in our hearts.
Opening preamble of the treaty of Titans Heart, signed on the 135th day of the year 3301 UC....excerpt from the book " The end of war, and the rise of the guild." 4th edition, 210 AW.

[tepid crane]

but why did they do that?

[frail hull]

That is a secret

[proud osprey]

i’m gonna piss in the king of astoria’s wine

and tell him the holy see did it

[obsidian jasper]

you guys think a lich that tied itself to a concept could work?

[spice hornet]

it's an idea i've done, but idk how applicable it'd be to DnD. i made my lich tied to a concept so they'd be Literally unkillable, bc so long as the concept existed, they'd rise again sometime in the future when they were well forgotten

[grave hollow]

I don't know if you can argue that a concept is an object

[spice hornet]

my specific idea is very, very divorced from the universe of DnD and any sense of what a "phylactery" is, and is more of a metatextual excuse for there to always be a villain

[grave hollow]

Good news, as long as people can make choices, there can be a villain. :p

[spice hornet]

but yeah, it's hard to argue that like, abstract cosmic ideas or concepts are anything but abstract, and it double dips out of lich into just freaky wizard-

[tepid crane]

How big can a phylactery be though, what if the lich makes their phylactery…THE MOON

[modest echo]

like in harry potter and the methods of rationality

[grave hollow]

If you can hollow out the moon so you can write inside it, it works.

This is all that is required by the book:
A phylactery is traditionally an amulet in the shape of a small box, but it can take the form of any item possessing an interior space into which arcane sigils of naming, binding, immortality, and dark magic are scribed in silver.

If you have the capacity to hollow out the moon in a reasonable timescale though, why would you take the shitty immortality shortcut that is lichdom?

[modest echo]

the prophecy

the work is not done in one lifetime alone

many a mage has sought to hollow the moon

to prepare for the coming of the King To Die

[grave hollow]

Now mind you, a Moon Lich dedicated to Atropos is a baller concept.

[proud osprey]

reasonable

an entire hollowed out mountain

a dwarven kingdom subsumed and sacrificed into a vast pool of blood

[grave hollow]

Absolutely make your phylactery a dungeon.

That is rad.

[tepid crane]

isn't that the lore of the original Tomb of Horrors?

It is a great excuse for all the looney shit in dungeons though, liches want to have fun

[craggy cloak]

work has gifted me with a fun challenge to work on: a one-session adventure also designed to help teach a prospective first-time-ever GM how to GM

If anyone has any good resources or existing material to look at, feel free to @ me about them!

[frail hull]

Like, the new gm is running the adventure?

[craggy cloak]

Yes, a brand new fresh faced GM running a basic adventure

[frail hull]

I would think that the free rpg day stuff would be fairly simple and have a variety mechanics for new players to try out. Could be good to look at.

[frail hull]

Question for the hive mind about a world building question that keeps popping up. In most D&D settings it seems that humans tend to be the majority of civilizations, with the other races either being confined to a small number of city's or otherwise smaller enclaves. The question that comes up is why ? If elves and dwarfs can learn skills as fast as humans can, why wouldn't they be in charge?

[grave hollow]

Well, part of that is you need to do less legwork for human cultures compared to other ancestries.

Also D&D settings usually have countries ruled by other ancestries as well.

Humans just are more populous because they have kids faster.

And, of course, there is the ever-present Tolkein thing as well.

[frail hull]

All fair points.

[lament geode]

Human bias, because we are in fact human and it's kinda hard for us to NOT to like, put ourselves in there

It's kinda like how making a fantasy civilization that doesn't at least have UNDERTONES of a given earthly civilization is really hard

Because we can say what we want but we can't get our biases wholly out of the way, only account for htem

[frail hull]

These have all been super helpfull out of stoyb reasons.
Does anyone know of any in story reasons as well? My go to is humans reproduce faster, and do the whole burn bright and fast. While the others are much more content to just wait. But other ideas are welcome.

[lament geode]

Human philosophies naturally gravitate towards a more passionate lifestyle. And for those passionate peoples who express it through boning down, well, there ya go.

[tepid crane]

I just make humans a weird type of beastman in my setting, if dogmen look like dogs then humans look like Hu which are sort of just circles with a blob of hair on the end

[lament geode]

Second session of Dragonlords completed

My players have already decided to just kill the basilisks to avoid letting Anora die

[proud osprey]

humans and halflings are the majority of the population of my world strictly because, crassly, they BREED the quickest.

dwarves, elves, gnomes: these are all races of magical folks great and small blessed with long lifespans and generally more resilient to the harshness of a fantasy reality. they don’t need to do what humans do and just overproduce

then you factor in the fact that certain individuals will be from certain places. dragonborn will mirror their colour dragon in terms of environment. rock gnomes and forest gnomes will be found in different places. you might find a tortle natively to anywhere you might find a turtle or tortoise. etc

i’d be willing to guess the four most populace races in anyone’s setting on average are humans, halflings and then orcs and goblins as a sort of mirror image to that

[obsidian jasper]

you guys think a character with two entirely different sheets could work?

I had this idea of a custom lineage thing in a warforged

but the warforged appearance is only it's armor and trying to fit in

[mellow rivet]

either it's a big advantage to have the option of switching to the other sheet, or it's a lot of hassle for no real reason

[tepid crane]

Not really, a lot of bookkeeping for no reason or it’s just really broken

[obsidian jasper]

Alr

[obsidian jasper]

It wouldn’t be voluntarily

More like when people who play undead races wear a full suit of armor

[craggy cloak]

I think you could get away with just one sheet and they appear otherwise?

I guess Id want to know why you need two sheets specifically, is it an entirely different character mechanically?

I've done a lot of "character appears as one thing, is actually another" but just used one single sheet

[tepid crane]

When I played a changeling I had other sheets to lay over my main one whenever I was pretending to be someone else and that was kind of fun

But my stats were never higher then what they could be as the changeling

[obsidian jasper]

It’s something trying to mimic humanoid beings when in actuality it is something else

And it uses said armor as a way to protect itself from its surroundings and from people finding out what it is

[craggy cloak]

sure! but does that need another character sheet entirely? when its mimicing a humanoid does it have entirely different stats, abilities, etc?

[obsidian jasper]

Ye so the actual thing would have high dex, it would be very agile but also strong, the armor keeps it locked in that’s why, it gives it more protection but it also limits its movement

[tepid crane]

maybe just give them a set of high ac armour that also causes stat debuffs

[lament geode]

So

A youtuber I follow has made a DBZ supplement for D&D

and stay with me here

The Frost Demons(as they call Frieza's race) have a pretty interesting mechanic where they are actually multiple levels ahead

but hide that by transforming into weaker forms

[obsidian jasper]

Ooh

[obsidian jasper]

guy in my group wants to become a warlock, dm allowed me to be his patron
I already have one requirement: I get some of the life essence of all that he kills
But i need something that actually helps me and won't just allow me to make the character come back

as a reborn

[tepid crane]

I’m a bit confused are you asking for ideas on what the patron would want?

[obsidian jasper]

Ye

Like what could I ask for

[normal crow]

Depends on what your character wants to accomplish.

[obsidian jasper]

More power

[normal crow]

Then he should give you more power, ez

[obsidian jasper]

How though it’s just a player

[normal crow]

You tell me, you're the one who wants power

[obsidian jasper]

Fair enough

[light moss]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS68DTFuE/

[frail hull]

Trying to figure out some lowish level, but helpful spells that can be put into a membership amulet for an adventuring guild. Was thinking like a once per day, spare the dying, catnap, and light? That can only be cast on the person wearing it. Wondering if that might be to strong for lvl 3?

[craggy cloak]

Love to see catnap get some use

[proud osprey]

the fuck is catnap

[craggy cloak]

spell from Xanathar's
basically give 3 willing creatures a short rest in 10 minutes

one of those spells thats really hard to justify taking a slot on but gets better if its on an item/wand/scroll

[frail hull]

And importantly, those affected have to sleep the whole 10 mins.

[proud osprey]

sleeb

[frail hull]

Sleeb indeeb

[tepid crane]

Ran into a slight problem with my mega dungeon. The various maps I’ve been making can’t be put together without some non-Euclidean shit happening since I sort of just made them individually

Can’t decide if I should fix it or just fuck it we ball, the dungeon moves on it’s own/pocket dimensions

[frail hull]

Each layer is its own demi plane works. Very well. Even helps explain that one sunken level.

[normal crow]

The Megadungeon is Magical and Magic does a lot of Non-Euclidean shit anyways

[frail hull]

So, working on a character concept. The plan is to be a paliden of Xipe Totec, the Aztec God of fertility, agriculture, metal smithing, pestilence, and ritual flaying. Just trying to see how that would translate to D&D.

[proud osprey]

i think i’ve got d&d today

what should i run

party are second level, there’s three. a half-drow paladin, halfling fighter, and half-orc monk

last time, they cleared out a tomb full of orcs. it is now However Much later

[normal crow]

have them go inside an orc full of tombs, for an unexpected twist

[dapper fulcrum]

Are we not full of tombs ourselves

Dead dreams buried, remembered and mourned?

[proud osprey]

are you guys even remotely okay

they talked about wanting to take to the high seas

SO.

they’re gonna need to secure a ship

so. port town

wilderness travel and then a town under attack by

someone

a cult? bandits? an invading army?

hm

rebellion?

town caught in the midst of rebellion. commoners vs the duke’s forces

the beginning of the end for the cadric empire

[tepid crane]

Sounds pretty cool, make sure to let them meet the head revolutionary or someone who will be important some day

[tepid crane]

How would people stay a bearowl? It’s like an owlbear but better, owl body and bear head.

I can’t decide if it should be owl sized or still bear sized

[grave hollow]

Owl sized, obvs

[frail hull]

one of those little burrowing owls at that

[tepid crane]

Hmm if I make them burrowing owl sized they would probably be a swarm animal like piranhas

I’m thinking of making their bite attack 2d6 because bear jaws but I don’t know if that is too extreme

[mellow rivet]

depends on the CR you're going for

[tepid crane]

Like CR 3

Mainly because an owl body means they are probably silent and great ambush attackers

[mellow rivet]

might be too low then. Unless they get multiattack

[tepid crane]

Would 2 claw attacks be a good addition?

[mellow rivet]

I was going to say that swarms don't usually get multiattack but then I found an example

[tepid crane]

Oh to be clear I didn’t mean a “swarm” unit

[frail hull]

could give them a burrow speed and advantage on suprise attacks as the little buggers swarm out of the ground

[tepid crane]

That could be interesting

[mellow rivet]

they'd already have advantage on surprise attacks, but you could give them bonus damage like a bugbear

I mean, because the victim couldn't see them if they were underground

[tepid crane]

Yeah this all sounds really good

[obsidian jasper]

you guys by chance know a sorcerer subclass that has ties to the abyss or other dark magic vibes (Not like the shadow sorcerer)

[tepid crane]

Warlock might be what you are after

[obsidian jasper]

I already am a hexblade

god damn in the middle of a session rn and eldritch blast is absolutely melting enemies rn

[proud osprey]

killed a PC last night

almost wiped the party

against

plot-irrelevant wolves 😭

the opening encounter of the game

they never made it to town

this group, despite being three of my best friends, and myself, are definitely a bit of a mess when it comes to running the game

[tepid crane]

Should of used the Gandalf method

Climb a big tree and throw shit

[proud osprey]

really i should’ve had the mercenaries come in

kill the wolves

and then explain The Plot

[grave hollow]

OK, so part of this is the Problem with CR

And one of my most hated monster abilities that dramatically increases the danger of an encounter at low levels.

[tepid crane]

mmmm pack tactics

[grave hollow]

Pack Tactics, yeah.

[proud osprey]

mmmm pack tactics

[grave hollow]

Add in the fact that wolves can Prone people and give them disadvantage on Attack rolls back, and they're more dangerous than the 1/4th CR indicates.

[proud osprey]

yeah, it’s all on me. i know this better but part of me was getting frustrated with how long they were pissing around so i lit a fire under their asses and then the fire burned one of them whole

i regret that i didn’t just use less wolves

and instead had just the two dire wolves

but hey

[craggy cloak]

live and learn

[proud osprey]

https://youtu.be/z1BRZg0GG0A?si=KxOjPDKB7bnY5zPP

[tepid crane]

Don’t worry about it tbh better to run into this type of problem early in a campaign compared to later

A couple low levels getting mauled by wolves doesn’t hurt as much as when your level 15 gets 1 shot by powerword kill

[proud osprey]

i sat with her after and we rolled up a new character, a half-drow sorcerer (draconic ancestry)

descended from a copper dragon i think

so she's in an okay spot

[craggy cloak]

game lethality can be funny; havent been in a lethal game in a long time, im more of a fan of characters needing meaningful deaths in my campaigns

[frail hull]

last character death i saw was when the bad guys got tired on the fighter getting brought back up by the cleric every time they went down, so the third time it happened it took the time to hit them while they were down before moving on.

[tepid crane]

Love a good counterspelling of revival

[proud osprey]

yeah same sorta

like thing is

if the cast of this campaign die

okay, i’m not fussed, they’ll be annoyed, and then they will make new characters and we’ll play some more another time

if the cast of the other campaign die

i will be annoyed

because they’ve given me soo much great shit to work with

[frail hull]

or, could look at it like a chance to change the setting to one of the various afterlife's or even the astral sea. Go on a quest to escape hell to come back to life.

[proud osprey]

oh if i kill them and they wanna keep on as these characters they’re going to the afterlife

respective afterlives

[stable falcon]

4e never really had adventure books unless you count the campaign setting ones.

[proud osprey]

arrrr

[stable falcon]

They did have the nine modules of the H2—E3 campaign.

[dapper fulcrum]

Wait whats the difference between adventure book and campaign

[stable falcon]

Adventure books keep an entire campaign in one book, campaigns don't necessarily need to be all in one book.

[dapper fulcrum]

Ah

Neverwinter?

[stable falcon]

And to a lesser extent Dark Sun and Forgotten Realms.

[craggy cloak]

i really liked the 4e 1-30 stuff

always a good time beating up Orcus

theres also Scales of War, also made by wotc for 1-30 play

scales of war is overall better since it wasnt made at the very beginning of 4e's life, but since it was written in chunks w/ some different writers theres a few inconsistencies you have to fix but nothing huuuuge

also beating up Tiamat is good fun 👍

as with both, a part of the Points of Light setting is you have to be able to accept a bit of "okay you finished here, now go there" because the world is purposefully a little more disconnected, dangerous, and not burdened by 50 years of publishing history to flesh out your cities and such

[dapper fulcrum]

Its nice and fresh

[craggy cloak]

it takes a load off of me as a dm for sure

just goes "hey man, this is post-apoc dnd world, civilization is literally about to die if things get any worse, go get inside some dungeons and beat up some monsters"

[tepid crane]

I think I’m going to try to create a mini-boss system inspired by the Shadow of War orc captains

Could be fun to have some critical locations in the mega dungeon that always have a mini-boss/notable NPC

[craggy cloak]

dungeon wont let me die

[tepid crane]

Well that’s not good how will it get more dungeon funding at the next quarterly

[craggy cloak]

dungeon ceo lich keeps embezzling funds

[tepid crane]

This dungeon is bleeding like a stuck pig! It’s a ghost town half the denizens don’t even live here anymore and the treasure is all just copper painted gold!

[proud osprey]

thinking i wanna run some undead nonsense

thinking i wanna run some undead nonsense

some haunted town shit, a region plagued by undeath and ruin

[frail hull]

That's because the kobalds keep killing all the adventures on the first level.

[tepid crane]

It’s how the adventurers learn to check for tripwires

[tepid crane]

I don’t think monasteries get enough love as adventure locations

Feels like they make perfect above ground dungeons

[obsidian jasper]

yo guys, I like the way 2 levels of hexblade warlock combined with sorcerer lets you do both melee and then later on ranged combat, but my current character already does that.
Is it bad if I use the exact same classes again?
Also I'm slowly running out of ideas
any advice appreciated

[craggy cloak]

theres finite combinations, go for it

theres people out there who only ever play one class and such

[obsidian jasper]

(Me)

[indigo steppe]

b u h

i was up literally chronologically all night making yeehaw homebrew

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13uNB4qh4TyYYCH_YFZRDkIvbh1O9wkpzK6wbOK6O3hw/edit?tab=t.0

rootin tootin and god damn shootin

guns ammo and reloads with a buncha new weapon traits

9 hours straight on this...

[proud osprey]

thinking about the forces seeking to tear the empire apart

[proud osprey]

• there are peasant rebellions in the west
• there are dragon cultists in the southeast (supposedly kazmi, though this is not actually true)
• there is plague in the west feeding the uprisings, and affecting the elves there to a point where they are growing rebellious too
• lady corvarian is looking to enact a coup upon the emperor’s death and mobilise the eastern imperial forces from glorattica
• general hexarchy nonsense including corvarian’s scheme and olgimsky’s disloyalty

[stable falcon]

I just enjoy building characters in 4e. You can't have a melee shadowmage in 5, but one hybrid Assassin|Sorcerer later and that's absolutely possible in 4e.

[craggy cloak]

Yeah theres good player expression in 4e especially with items added in

[obsidian jasper]

you guys think reflavouring divine soul could work in a way that it isn't a bloodline but the character just usurped some being to gain power?

[modest echo]

yeah

[obsidian jasper]

Alr

Thx

I’ll work on it

[tepid crane]

What’s up with the peasant rebels

[worthy plank]

My monk now has a sentient longsword lmao

[proud osprey]

they earned it is what’s up

well the west is just kind of falling to shit. a lot of good men died in the recent kazmi wars and the crusade that culminated it, so that’s a generation lost to twenty or so years of conflict. the duke is kind of an asshole. there are plagues. and business is struggling on this side of the empire. additionally there are weird cult activities going down. basically out west everything sucks and peasants are wise enough to know that and wanna organise to lobby for change

and like i said the duke is a dick. so he’s even hiring mercenaries to quash this rebellion

[tepid crane]

Oh that sounds pretty cool have the players interacted with this yet?

[frail hull]

FYI the Humblewood book has been made "Pay what you want" on the companies website. It also comes with a conversion kit to bring it in line with 2024 D&D. https://hitpointpress.com/products/humblewood-campaign-setting-pdf

[proud osprey]

d&d on saturday

will aim not to kill an NPC this time

we may have a guest!

[proud osprey]

we probably have a guest

a half elven cleric woman

grave domain best domain

[tepid crane]

What are the deets

[proud osprey]

of what

[tepid crane]

Just what’s going on in the session/story

[proud osprey]

party have been in town for a month of real time. it’s currently the 47th day of summer. things are ramping up for the midsummer festival and the tournament of champions taking place for the emperor’s centenary. the bard is seeking the guy he hates. the druid is concerned about this for multiple reasons. the dwarf is spending time around other dwarves in the city’s dwarven quarter which is nice and the paladin is seeking answers about his past and pursuing leads in the traitor knight gideon godfrey

there’ll also be a grave domain cleric, a guest for now, who i may weave into the paladin’s church plotline :0

[frail hull]

Now for one of my least favorite part of worldbuilding. Taking all the various notes spread across several mediums and making a coherent world bible....sigh. Doesn't help I have to translate my own handwriting.

[tepid crane]

Hmmm what would be a fun alternative to horses in a swamp? I was thinking giant frogs but the hopping might be a bit wonky.

[lament geode]

little baba yaga huts

[frail hull]

alligators?

[obsidian jasper]

Birds

[proud osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/guar-morrowind-elder-scrolls-tes-gif-13092997

something like this

[frail hull]

But those things will never let you sleep.

If one was to have the elves of the world transformed into something horrific for breaking a major taboo of the universe, what would be the best option? I know orcs are a classic, but I'm thinking even stranger would work better. Any ideas? Bonus points if there is a small subspecies that the gnomes get turned into as well 😂

[tepid crane]

more violent fey from mythologies? Or vampires with the serial numbers filed off.

[frail hull]

Hum, could work. There is a nation of undead already, but no reason can't reuse some of them, just change it up a bit.

Hum, might just go full tomb kings.

[grave hollow]

What's the taboo?

[frail hull]

Having a standing military

It's held up by multiple wish spells and divine intervention.

[tepid crane]

oh it's for that setting

[frail hull]

Yeah

[proud osprey]

slugs

hashed out our new cleric player. think she’ll become a longer term fixture rather than just a one-off guest

very eccited

veeeery excited

she played accidentally COMPLETELY into my hand

her father died twenty years ago. he was an inquisitor.

the paladin’s father disappeared twenty years ago. he was a heretic.

YOU. DO. THE. MATH.

[frail hull]

They were the same person, and the the clerics father faked his death.

[proud osprey]

there is NO way

that would arguably be an even bigger scandal than what actually happened

[tepid crane]

they both stabbed each other?

[proud osprey]

gideon godfrey definitely killed a lot of the inquisitors who tried to take him down

[proud osprey]

it’s very reasonable to assume that gideon murdered reylana’s father

and that the late mister aeris was killed during a skirmish when the noose started to tighten on gideon

[tepid crane]

don't know your lore but that sounds like a cool shared backstory

[proud osprey]

i’m 90% confident the dates check out

and this will be what i move ahead with

[frail hull]

Going to find both fathers running a Quant little inn somewhere in the country.

[proud osprey]

the far likelier outcome is sadder and darker

for both

gideon godfrey is shaping up to be one of the most prominent, and likely the most personally affecting, primary antagonists in the background of this campaign. but i am playing the LONG game with him

long game in the sense that the part have dealt with a mercenary hired by one of his lieutenants’ henchmen

so we are still MANY degrees of separation out

[tepid crane]

damn he's one of the "Sending waves of progressively stronger henchman" bad guys huh

[proud osprey]

not even

gideon, formerly baron godfrey, changed shortly after the birth of his son, beginning to devote himself to subversive forces outside the approved idolatry of the church

when the extent of his immersion in the occult was revealed, he was excommunicated. his family was stricken from prominence. he was hunted by inquisitors, and he had a confidant escort his family into the distant eastern edge of the empire to safety

naturally, he fled, staying an enemy of the empire, but flying under their radar

in this time, he has amassed new allies, consolidate existing allegiances, and allowed his plans to snowball

the utter tragedy of it all is that his son was the gift that his demonic patron granted him

and that in exchange, he swore himself to her service

so his goal is to summon effectively this setting’s tiamat, because that is what she requires of him to repay his debt

should he do so, he will be granted her boon

he wanted two things

a family to love

and his name to live forever in history

shame

he has neither

a family who largely does not know him, nor each other, and a name that lives in infamy or else has been stricken from memory

introducing another person with legitimate reason to have beef with this guy as a new PC is so cool though i’m so lucky

[worthy plank]

https://tenor.com/view/nwah-gif-25359922

[proud osprey]

friends all

[obsidian jasper]

I just caused a tpk lmao

Lmao

[tepid crane]

What happened?

[obsidian jasper]

I had highly explosives things in me

On*

I was holding them

And a fireball hit me

So

100 something damage

Plus 6d8 damage

Anyway dm revived us

And laughed his ass off

[proud osprey]

• introduced new character
• introduced new organisations
• lore
• rent
• and more

this week on dungeons and dragons

that was a good session. much lower key

[tepid crane]

what orgs did you introduce?

[timber sleet]

todays session was wild
we fought a dragon and also this guy working with the dragon. guy gives a dramatic speech and dramatically walks out from behind a corner, i shoot him, he catches my arrow. green dragon comes up from the nearby lake. we think "wow this is gonna be hard". monk grabs the barbarian and runs over to the dude, hits him with a stunning strike, then the barbarian lands a crit and a hit with a magical sentient broadsword that does an extra 2d6 damage per hit, rolls crazy damage, guy with high stats and all kinds of magic items is dead instantly. then we all turn to the dragon. it tries to poison breath us but we're all poison resistant because we came prepared and it doesnt do a lot. druid upcasts conjure minor elemental and turns into an owlbear, now dealing 10d8+whatever damage a turn if they hit all their attacks. barbarian keeps raging and goes ham on the dragon. monk punches like crazy. artificer hits it with ice storms and fireballs. i sit back and do nothing because i am poisoned and have disadvantage on all attack rolls, although the dragon still uses a lair action to put a wall of thorns in my line of sight, which does nothing because i am using winged ammo which ignores cover. dragon gets fucked up really bad, tries to flee, but then our monk lands an attack of opportunity, uses all 3 of his remaining staff of striking charges, and does a stunning stike, and knocks the dragons jaw clean off. it was great

even though i didnt do a lot during that fight, im still happy because i did a lot of rogue stuff lockpicking and disarming traps beforehand

[tepid crane]

Sounds like you guys were prepped and have good battle tactics

[proud osprey]

the inquisition, the iron hand, the circle

[proud osprey]

got some juiiiicy fuckin lore in there too

about what happened around the turn of the century up north

all roads for the druid’s personal plotline seem to be leading to smišia, the province to the northwest which borders the dwarfhold, to see first of all what came of things back when the plague struck there, and also to seek out a healer, elissa hantel

[tepid crane]

Tell me about the plague

[proud osprey]

a psyop

big deal out west

people in the central empire don’t know about it

tearing apart the gostwood, an elven stronghold

and as such causing a LOT of discontent

[tepid crane]

Wait so the plague isn’t real?

[obsidian jasper]

If I’m lucky I might be able to actually play a reborn soon, same character but different

[proud osprey]

no the plague is actually real

but it’s somewhat manufactured by olgimsky

while the druid is somewhat onto this, he actually thinks the plague is manufactured by the inquisition

so the misdirect worked basically

[proud osprey]

need a fun shady questlet for the Gnome Gimble to offer the party

in exchange for healing provisions

[tepid crane]

What does the gnome want

[proud osprey]

thinking he’ll have em run some supplies

he wants hired muscle most likely

for some shady shit

had a conversation, during that the paladin mentioned that he was in the crusades and had seen a dragon eat a man. got noted down as viable muscle

[normal crow]

Whats the gnomes line of business
Hows the biz going

[proud osprey]

he’s an alchemist

he makes potions

[proud osprey]

everyone’s favourite thing:

a sewer level

shadily smuggling some regulated or contraband substances into the city for the alchemist

i’m thinking

strangleweed, mandrake carcasses, leeches containing poisonous blood, i’m sure some other stuff

but there’s something in the sewer

that has killed the overgrown rats that normally swell down here

[proud osprey]

workshopping what that is. options so far:

• drider, an outcast from the dark elven colony beneath the city
• ghouls/ghasts?
• a pair of gibbering mouthers?:
• good ol carrion crawlers. love me sum dungeon bugs

[dapper fulcrum]

Drider

[proud osprey]

yeah

this dark elf was a worshipper of Racnosia, demon god of darkness and spiders, and when their back was up against the wall, they invoked their demonic patron, and were summarily transformed into a spider monstrosity. the resultant rampage led to them being pushed out from the dark elven colony, left to roam the sewers and literal criminal underworld of mollebourg, vengeful and bloodthirsty, preying on those who would travel these underground pathways or sewer tunnels

need a name for the dark elf

Tuthmyr Larae

[trail bane]

chat i need some assistance

the players are gonna encounter an animal which will eventually become a sidekick

but im unsure what animal/class to pick D:

[obsidian jasper]

What’s the setting like

Also do you have some favourites?

[trail bane]

Eberron-ish with lightning rails and airships.

And dragonators

[trail bane]

My eyes have been set on a Paolumu and an Agnaktor so far

[obsidian jasper]

Good choice

[obsidian jasper]

So mh?

Kinda

[trail bane]

It's a blend between Monster Hunter and DnD.

There's MH creatures and vibes, but not much else

The rest is dnd

[obsidian jasper]

Very cool

[modest echo]

has anyone kept up with the new Monster Manual
and if so can you tell me about the half-dragons

[dapper fulcrum]

only early access rn

[trail bane]

it's nearly 5am and im still working on the dungeon

[dapper fulcrum]

Is that giant robot in the lava

[trail bane]

A warforged Colossus strung up by chains above the heart of the forge

Once the Dwarves' favourite machine, now left strung in purgatory, legless and immobile by the one who know owns this dungeon

chat how obvious is this puzzle

[mellow rivet]

might need some context

I'd definitely want to poke those tiles with a pole before going into the room

[obsidian jasper]

Do you just have to stay on the non-broken tiles?

[mellow rivet]

I would have guessed you stay on the broken ones!

[proud osprey]

simple

i cast fireball in the centre of the room

[trail bane]

correct

[proud osprey]

m

m-

morrowind????

[trail bane]

uhhh no

[deep rapids]

wow i didnt think of it but its akulkhan-esque lol

[trail bane]

how so?

[deep rapids]

just a robot in lava near a bridge, its not really similar

but they are nice maps, cool mix of natural land and hallways

[trail bane]

ah

the warforged is actually being held above the lava by chains

[tepid crane]

Is it evil to have a bunch of tunnels with the floor tiles painted black and then like the 4th tunnel floor is just covered in tar?

[mellow rivet]

it would be evil to have a bunch of floor tiles covered in tar and then the 4th one is a sphere of annihilation

or a... cube of annihilation I guess

[tepid crane]

Oh that’s good

[proud osprey]

lightly morrowind coded is all

[proud osprey]

is Pontiff a good word for the uppermost rank of my setting’s church?

• High Benefactor (typically Emperor)** / High Pontiff*
• Archbishop*
• Lux Primus* / Pontiff*
• Bishop / Archdeacon*
• Deacon
• Abbot* / Abbess* / Inquisitors / Paladins
• Prior / Prioress
• Father / Mother
• Brothers / Sisters (Monks including Chroniclers and Illuminators, local clergy, mendicants)

there is one of the thing at the top, one per province of the second tier down, one per godly domain for the lux primus, pontiffs are appointed by the uppermost ranks of the church, bishops are elected to regions within imperial provinces, and an archdeacon is appointed to a province to oversee churchly activities therein, including the selection of bishops, bishops vote for their province’s archbishop, deacons organise local churchly matters, abbots and abbesses oversee abbeys with the help of priors and prioresses, inquisitors and paladins are lone acting agents of the church with some degree of independence, fathers and mothers of the church are just priests and brothers and sisters are those who live in dedication to the faith

[worthy plank]

DM told us to prepare for a tough battle today due to decisions we made last session

[worthy plank]

Pontiff works if you want to get antiquated catholic with it, though I will point out within the ranking system itself archbishop being above pontiff is kind of odd

pontiffs, when there were multiple

Kind of all were archbishops, or the equivalent when the Roman state religion was Roman paganism

They were a semi-predecessor to cardinals, i.e. the members of a college denoting the highest ranking archbishops

[proud osprey]

the pontiffs are still ostensibly cardinals, as in they elect the pope figure, whereas the archbishop is religious leader of a whole province

[worthy plank]

I mean even then they’re, iirc, more often than not parallel specialized roles within the bishopric

If not simultaneously held, or held one after the other in one’s career

[craggy cloak]

one of my party members got eradicated yesterday lmao

54 damage as a 27hp wizard 😭

[worthy plank]

ow

[craggy cloak]

it did lead to a very fun character moment for me as the only person who remained conscious from the attack

everyone went down from the fire breath, my guy stood standing charred up at 3hp, so he pulled out a cig from his chest pocket and said "Thanks for the light."

[trail bane]

:D

ended the sesh as they reached the final room

one sec gotta crop

RAAH

[trail bane]

the sesh went well btdubz

there's a chance they can use the colossus as a walking fortress if they get it down from there

and somehow fix it's missing legs

[frail hull]

Or, and this is a bitnout there, have it use its arms to drag itself around like a giant gorilla.

[worthy plank]

we out here

I am the monk all the way in the top right in the middle of all the enemies

[worthy plank]

I got to drop a pretty hard line to the lord who was mad at us

"During our talk you fretted to us about how you would have to explain to your older brother that your niece was injured the day she returned with an adventuring group in tow. My fellows and I are the reason you do not have to tell him she is dead."

[flat gull]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/5th-edition-adventures-crafting-monsters-and-vtt-assets-books

[light moss]

Hmm, I wonder how many fighter champions with Spears and Interception fighting styles to remake the phalanx

[dapper fulcrum]

5+

[light moss]

Time to play all fighter party

One is the battlemaster

[proud osprey]

all fighter party goes crazy

statistically most people are fighters and rogues

[light moss]

Not in the games I'm seeing, I see more spellcaster classes than fighters, makes sense in a way, they do tend to be more dynamic and interesting

[normal crow]

There's more to do, in and out of combat

[proud osprey]

like most characters, player or otherwise

the parties we don’t see

[light moss]

True

[frail hull]

So, apparently minions might be making a comeback in the new MM, as well as legendary creatures are not limited to 3 legendary resistances. Or they get more legendary actions, need to look into it some more.

[proud osprey]

basically, people liked MCDM’s flee mortals or were influenced by that design and they wanted to capitalise on that

[craggy cloak]

Its the recognition of 4e being awesome

[proud osprey]

yes

roundaboutly so

[dapper fulcrum]

HA

[normal crow]

Minions you say

[dapper fulcrum]

rotating "Lost Mines in Phandelver but in Eberron" in my head

[flat gull]

Where is it set

[proud osprey]

thinking about modding up d&d

as per usual

[dapper fulcrum]

somewhere in Breland, near Darguun and Zilargo

the Mine is actually a forge (not a creation forge, just a very important forge built using old Dhakaani empire artifice and Sulatar drow magic, and unknowingly tainted by demonic influence)

instead of three dwarf brothers its three Zilargo gnome siblings who've set up a "game" where they hire different parties to compete to get to the forge first, with the PC's employer being one of the gnomes (the redbrands would be one of the other groups. One of the other gnomes hired only an orc druid and doesn't want the forge to fall into the irresponsible hands of her other siblings)

The whimsical and callous gnome who hires the party (based on Gundrun) has a goblin assistant named Harwen (based on Sildar Hallwinter), but he condescendingly calls her Zildar because she's a Zilargo-educated dar (goblin). She's actually a Dhakaani spy/assassin assessing the forge situation, who will help the party if it aligns with her goals (the taking of the forge back in goblin hands). She resents Gundrun

the Black Spider would be a dapper drow in a suit made of metal silk and a top hat named Mister Cinders going full devil in the crossroads with him by having him tempt the players with 1000 gp, and then asking them to stand by as his minions burn down an inn.

Mister Cinders is a Last War profiteer, exiled from his community of drow who came to Khorvaire from Stormreach. He follows the faith of the Sulatar drow from "the old country" as he says, from Xendrik, the Sulatar being fire-worshippers who first started the art of elemental binding before the gnomes stole that knowledge for their own use. the Sulatar believe in a paradise of flame, which will grant them an army to raze the world. Mister Cinders believes that the war-torn world is ready to burn.

the dragon cultists are replaced with Lord of Blades warriors, and the green dragon is a massive construct made by the forge ages ago.

replacing the goblin antagonists with maybe deserters/brigands, or maybe even Valenar elves hired by Mister Cinders for the promise of a good fight

[flat gull]

Interesting retrofit.

[dapper fulcrum]

although its easy to use the Daelkyr for the Shattered Obelisk extension after this im not too into the aberration-focused nature of the sequel

so if this ever gets off the ground i'll just transition directly to Eberron Hoard of the Dragon Queen

[flat gull]

I saw a fun idea for red hand of doom

[dapper fulcrum]

pray tell

[flat gull]

The rhod handbook on giant had a section for conversion

And since you can't really have tiamat in the same way there's a lot of setting changes you can make

[obsidian jasper]

You guys got advice on how to overthrow a country in dnd?

[craggy cloak]

That question is very setting, table, and DM dependent but mind control magic is a messed up way to do it.

[modest echo]

first you learn your DM's theory of power,

[obsidian jasper]

Alr

[frail hull]

Mind control, dark magic, changlings, disasters both natural and unnatural, old fashioned murder, war, plague, divine or demonic intervention, marry into family, etc.

[obsidian jasper]

Im planing on making an army of the dead while the rest of the party sleeps (reborn only need 4 hours of rest)
So then when I give the command they will all rise, before that I want to sabotage the kings servants and all and maybe mind control a few (maybe even the royal mage)

[proud osprey]

why does combat work in discrete 6 minute chunks

like if i swing my sword at an orc, why doesn’t the orc immediately defend itself

sure there’s a realism argument for doing so but as a DM i feel like this would make combat much more dynamic and engaging and fast-paced

because the principle behind it should cut both ways

[modest echo]

that's its AC

[proud osprey]

sure

but it’s also sorta not

like a reaction opportunity attack is an attack. AC is just a really abstracted way of elaborating the difficulty of hitting a creature for whatever reason

i might trial this out next session

because i am craving ways to expedite gameplay

reminds me i have a session tomorrow after work

gotta really lock in my notes for it

it’s gonna be insanely hectic

things are heating up now

it’s gonna be a plot heavy episode

(giles from buffy voice) PREVIOUSLY, ON DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS

[light moss]

Love my new character rn, he is a wizard who was forced to turn his closest friend into a warlock for a mafia gang and now his friend no longer trust him.

Imagine being the reason for your closest love one's torment, forcing them to go through a journey of change without you

[flat gull]

combat doesn't work in 6 minute chunks

a combat round is 6 seconds

10 rounds is 1 full minute.

[proud osprey]

yeah i know id just woken up

[trail bane]

chat I need suggestions to flesh out this map

skulls mean boss zones

skull n' crossbones mean BIGBADEVILGUY zones

the skulls are optional bossfights the players can discover which lets them get magic items

there's also a few Orc n' Kobold encampments around

[proud osprey]

what’s the plan for the campaign

i’ve just seen that the boys at wotc are testing out artificer as the first UA of the entire 5.24 edition, and it seems so weird to me how averse they are at adding another class to the core lineup of 5e

like. why? clearly they wanna play around with player options and versatility, so why won’t they commit to the bit

[dapper fulcrum]

Committing to the bit means taking risks and they dont want that

[obsidian jasper]

I'm playing a oneshot rn

my species is rat

I am quite literally just a rat

(Who gives people the bubonic plague and does necromancy)

I rarely enjoy dnd this much

[proud osprey]

i guess

[craggy cloak]

Artificer fights against the world fantasy for a lot of (grain of salt) grognard older vocal DMs

[dapper fulcrum]

That too

[grave hollow]

laughs in superior Eberron ideas

But also in 5e it's just... Not quite what I want out of Artificer.

[frail hull]

Just got done running through a solo D&D module form Obvious Mimic. Got to say it was actually quite fun. Really brought back those choose your own adventure book vibes with actual mechanics thrown in. There are some, odd, story beats, but nothing too immersion breaking. Not 100% sure whether or not getting magic weapons at lvl. 3 is the best move it could make, but everything else seems appropriate for a low level PC to have. ( module says it can be run with a PC between levels 1 to 4, so I went with 3) Combat was fairly simple, but I did roll up an optimized monk with higher than average stats due to good rolls, so if a PC got made with an array I feel it would still lean towards the PC, but be more even. Going to try on of the other books and see how it plays with a spellcaster this time.

[proud osprey]

i don’t like artificer personally

[proud osprey]

god real

i’m thinking that when i finish hatcheting 5e apart into harry edition over the years, if im still playing twenty years down the line, we’ll have a class or two that divides the two things people seem to want from artificer

but i just don’t like artificer

[modest echo]

i'm not sure that's even true

Goblins are fey and kobolds are dragons but they've been playable before and will likely be again

[craggy cloak]

yeah

[mellow rivet]

Buy Fey and Dragons can be reasoned with. Demons gotta demon

on the other hand this means tieflings can now be gnoll-like

[craggy cloak]

things change, demons can always change etc etc

[flat gull]

I thought it was literally just because they don't like making pc types not humanoid

it messes with the templating

still disagree, they patch that for pc versions

[mellow rivet]

Goblins count as both Humanoid and Goblinoid, so they can make the templating work if they want it to

I can't tell if making things like Satyr Fey-only is a deliberate balancing thing but they could use it as one. "You're immune to Dominate Person but good luck finding a revival spell that works on you"

[craggy cloak]

thats such a silly distinction lol

im not sure i could take a table seriously if they enforced that

[trail bane]

Gentlemen, we have our first death.

Disintegrated

[proud osprey]

yeesh

[tepid crane]

Tune in next week for the adventures of John Barguy

[craggy widget]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Xl5n8xW7wt8?si=R5wkyDgi2xBo0UTn

[proud osprey]

convoluted but cool

[obsidian jasper]

I saw this and

If I have to cast spells like that I think I’m gonna be a rogue or something

Cool idea though

[proud osprey]

lmaoooo

i like letting players flavour verbal and somatic components more or less as they wish

[proud osprey]

the possibility of summer d&d with my friends in dundee is a reality for my 2025

so that’s cool

gotta get a cool but accessible game premise suitable for some real marathon play

[proud osprey]

cool premise needed tho

gotta have an urban component, exploration element, and dungeon location

[craggy cloak]

"I know King Gallant has to have the old relics tucked away somewhere. Old fool is scared of 'em, doesn't know their value. We got some big buyers who do. You need to get into his city, find a way into the palace dungeons, and get the goods."

[proud osprey]

ooh actually

that’s good

but i’m tucking it away

there was once a dwarven stronghold buried deep in the mountains that divide the dwarfhold of dóth and the cadric empire, but it was laid low by the glorian empire some thousand years ago when the dwarves first dared to oppose their rule

lost to time, buried by nature and ruin, the stronghold has fallen into disrepair, inhabited by everything it shouldn’t - be it goblins or gricks or great and terrible dragons

the place has been rediscovered, scouted by explorers with a renewed vigour. a cascade of enthusiastic dwarves and others too seek to reclaim the stronghold and establish a new power centre to unite the disparate dwarven holds

but first, the ruin must be discovered, charted, and rendered habitable. thus, mercenaries willing to risk it all are the favoured bet of local dwarven leadership, and it is a boom time for the mercenary class of society

starting at the dwarven town of Daugrath, the players will have signed on with a bustling convoy of settlers scheduled to traverse the perilous wilds and venture forth into the heart of the dwarfhold, for glory or for gold

this way we have:

• town stuff in Daugrath
• wilderness nonsense with the party sent out to scout and clear the way for the convoy
• dungeon nonsense as the party go adventure and explore and clear a safe portion while the convoy sets up first outside
• hearty rewards: plundered treasures, money aplenty, exp

cool dungeon fights and traps and stuff

[craggy cloak]

yeah i dig it

my other idea for marathon d&d is "your boat is literally the first one to hit this new island we've discovered, good fucking luck"

[proud osprey]

yooooo

i think i definitely ought to plop a dragon in there right

probably just a slumbering red dragon

well. “just”

[proud osprey]

if you guys were gonna make a class based on the idea of channeling focused on communicating with the undead and some other goofy medium-type shit

would you go with wisdom or charisma for its primary ability?

[dapper fulcrum]

Wisdom

[proud osprey]

thinking of adding a tiny few classes to my game: alchemist, self explanatory; mystic, a powerful psionicist; and channeler

[modest echo]

hmmmm wisdom probably

[proud osprey]

okie doke

need to also work out what the full list of playable races is in my game

well. species

PHB all good

well 14 phb. idk what’s in 24’s species selections

but yeah.

• human
• halfling (lightfoot, stout, city-slicker)
• elf (high, wood, dark, snow, fey)
• dwarf (mountain, hill, deep, dune, glacier)
• gnome (forest, rock, deep, wilder)
• dragonborn (chromatic, metallic, gem and the subcategories thereof all three)
• orcs
• half-orcs
• half-elves
• goblins
• hobgoblins
• goliaths
• firbolgs
• half-ogres
• aasimar (variants pending heavenly lineage)
• tiefling (variants pending heavenly lineage)
• minotaur
• fairy

[proud osprey]

hmmm

i should type this up

[proud osprey]

i typed it up

[obsidian jasper]

What’s a snow elf?

That sounds very interesting

[proud osprey]

elves who inhabit colder climates. they benefit from a similar stealth ability to the wood elves, as well as having a cold resistance

[obsidian jasper]

You got my full attention

[proud osprey]

i also added magma dwarves and glacier dwarves, wild magic gnomes, crystal gnomes, and frost gnomes, deepwood elves, city slicker halflings, and tweaked some other racial options

lemme get the final list

[obsidian jasper]

Very cool

[proud osprey]

List of Playable Species

• Human
  Standard Human
  Variant Human
• Halfling
  Lightfoot Halfling
  Stout Halfling
  City-Slicker Halfling
• Elf
  High Elf
  Wood Elf
  Dark Elf
  Snow Elf
  Deepwood Elf
  Eladrin
• Dwarf
  Mountain Dwarf
  Hill Dwarf
  Dune Dwarf
  Glacier Dwarf
  Magma Dwarf
  Duergar
• Gnome
  Forest Gnome
  Rock Gnome
  Wilder Gnome
  Frost Gnome
  Crystal Gnome
  Svirfneblin
• Dragonborn
  Chromatic Dragonborn
  Red
  Black
  Blue
  Green
  White
  Metallic Dragonborn
  Gold
  Silver
  Brass
  Bronze
  Copper
  Gem Dragonborn
  Amethyst
  Crystal
  Ruby
  Sapphire
  Emerald
• Tiefling
  Winged
  Infernal
  Abyssal
• Aasimar
  Protector
  Scourge
  Fallen
• Goblin
• Hobgoblin
• Orc
• Half-Orc
• Half-Elf
• Half-Ogre
• Goliath
• Firbolg
• Fairy
• Minotaur
• Gagja
• Rupling

think that's it

[obsidian jasper]

I don't even know some of these

very cool

big variety

[proud osprey]

gagja and rupling: elephant folk and rabbit folk

so like loxodon and harengon

but i never liked those names, i don't think they suit my world

whereas a rupling SOUNDS like something the rabbit people of the deep woods of this world would be called

this world, by the way, fuckin nameless 😭

[obsidian jasper]

hmmmm, what's the theme

[proud osprey]

doesn't really matter