#Exalted

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south horizon
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lol

marsh garden
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isn't it 5?

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nope

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OH

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it's just a really efficient 4 dot

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I'M THINKING RADIANCE

south horizon
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radiancr needs

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buffs

bleak hazel
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my murder build actually has relatively poor overwhelm, only 4, but he has the fusion punch combo so if his E5 incarnation hits you you just lose 9-10 init, flat, and he gets 2-3

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our circle's abyssals are so fucking cute and then there's arby over here who is only cute if you can ignore her Hideous (covered in horriffic scars that weep black ichor and open into hungering maws)

south horizon
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it's kinda gimmicky and not in.a godod way

marsh garden
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that's the 5-dot that i just genuinely don't remember what it does

bleak hazel
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searing edge attack w/ 1 withering damage autosux cares not for your Aegis of Invincible Might

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you punch the -5 postsoak solar with your bare fist, roll 0 dice of damage and crash them

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south horizon
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post soak dmg upon ye

south spade
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Bandages from her cheeks getting bited

bleak hazel
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not even that, it reduces post-soak dice by 5

south horizon
fierce star
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I understand I am not God's Most Normal Person and therefore finding such things adorable is probably abnormal, however

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including the one that took out his hearr

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fierce star
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10/10 would hug

south spade
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Aww

south horizon
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it's fine, the lover gave him a better one

bleak hazel
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it strictly works on damage roll autosux and a second withering charm that triggers if your damage has any successes

fierce star
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would immediately get devoured

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but would hug

bleak hazel
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so your roll of 0 dice gets 1 sux, Searing Edge Attack triggers and they lose 1 + (essence) init

bleak hazel
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very funny

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marsh garden
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what's the one free hit from?

south horizon
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i am.reminded of when infernals.melee got released

south spade
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Jesus fuck its a heavy??

south horizon
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and people butched about the lack of withering boosters

marsh garden
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munch

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nit realizing

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that there aren't even tgat many withering attack biosters in solars

marsh garden
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heavies are kind of bad in 3e compared to the other two types

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marsh garden
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so this is unideal vs being a medium

south horizon
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i5's just that the one they have

marsh garden
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but it's very fitting

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is stupid good

south spade
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IT GIVES EXALTS GANGRENE??

marsh garden
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OVERBITE is good

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nor do dollmakers let me give her the parasitic umbilical cord covered in eyes that she uses to steal people's souls and make them her servants

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yerp

prisma sun
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I think as long as he wasnt fighting in a flat white room Drifts has the tricks to kill a soak beast

south horizon
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Infernals combat kit

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is all.about dealing dmg

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that lasts

bleak hazel
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you do need the mastery

marsh garden
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ahhh, crane adds autosux on damage

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marsh garden
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gotcha

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i just remembered the post-soak

bleak hazel
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but when it works you can punch through anything

south spade
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Are those additional traits you can buy fornit?

south horizon
bleak hazel
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including the solar resistance capstone

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which is hysterical

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merry arch
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what if the baby could give you rabies. what about that.

south horizon
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this is mainly a word count saving tech

merry arch
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loser

velvet raft
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Hm. Trying to decide whether the Mask of Winters would send material support to someone in the ScavLands getting ready to give the Walker a run for his money

south horizon
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those are essentially new charms/repurchase upgrades

velvet raft
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Like, is the Mask that petty?

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yes

merry arch
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yes absolutely

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the Mask is extremely petty

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The Mask is nothing but petty

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remember

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if he thinks the goober will just run off and not actually fight the Walker

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the reasin he took.thorns

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was to show.up the other deathlords

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no he's not giving you those stacks

clever steeple
marsh garden
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but if he thinks you'll actually do it...

bleak hazel
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hilariously one of the many things Crimson Rain gets in fights with the High Families about is that he's technically a commoner and took over a low-prestige trading guild rather than a proper Skullstone noble's commission, despite the fact that he acts like the most born-heir aura farming aristocrat possible

velvet raft
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Y'all have echoed my thoughts

bleak hazel
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big cloaks, huge entourages carrying chests of money

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bleak hazel
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so the most princelike guy in the party is not actually one

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(well, he's a deathknight, but still)

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I think the only Deathlord that isn't some level of pet- wait no

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Lion is petty

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he's just basrard petty

marsh garden
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the Lion is absurdly petty

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Varan's ruin

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They're all at least a little petty

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is extremely petty

bleak hazel
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Mask is the king of pettiness

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the Dowager isn't very petty

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Dowager isn't very petty now

marsh garden
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because she's had all the sarcasm exploded out of her

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yeah

velvet raft
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but in 3e she used to be a ragebaiting queen

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which is why the Walker liked her

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what r u feeling reminds u of eva

south horizon
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side note

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playding warframe

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really.gives me an idea of how to do first age shenanigans

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the Orokin and all.of their bullshit

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seems.like good fodder for peak firat age decadence bullshit

prisma sun
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Someone equated the Orokin to the yozi and I largely agree

knotty islandBOT
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The whole 'inscrutable alien presence from The Heavens™' but I suppose I'm mostly reminded specifically of Ramiel; The shifting forms of light and angular shape, the inability for humans to communicate with them without breaking their brains, the destructive heavenly lightbeams, etc

borb ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161699000836165714 message) what r u feeling reminds u of eva

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the problems with hedgehogs

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This is going over my head

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<XD

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the orokin are way too human

velvet raft
# knotty island This is going over my head

I have been known to maintain that Eva is just about the Hedgehog's Dilemma mentioned in episode 4, like that's a significant portion of the show's literal and thematic elements

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So I make hedgehog jokes about Eva

south horizon
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is that even a question?

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Eva is not a subtle show

spiral cosmos
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o that makes sense

knotty islandBOT
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what gk said or what I said, or both? XD

borb ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161699000836165714 message) o that makes sense

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also yeah that's fair lmao

gkathellar (he/him) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161699000836165714 message) I have been known to maintain that Eva is just about the Hedgehog's Dilemma mentioned in episode 4, …

spiral cosmos
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What u said, tho i don't disagree

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It's fun to hear takes on devil-stars i wouldn't have thought of

wise ocean
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vbos my beloved. extremely funny how graves is purpose-made to counter torchlight as characters I'm running simultaneously

knotty islandBOT
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Mun Four is also a little Kaworu

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juuuuuuust a touch

wise ocean
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watch this (deploys 23 soak on main)

you're like little baby. overwhelm 15

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fortunately because torchlight is a comic book villainess she can then just fly away while dramatically shaking her fist and declaring She'll Get You Next Time

mighty rover
knotty islandBOT
fading cypress
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shoat shoat shoat

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we love shoat

merry arch
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IT'S TRUE

fading cypress
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(sorry i was being a vampire in deadlock)

merry arch
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you're allowed

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its okay this was correct and good and now you get to be a vampire dollie in exalted

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i knew my friend val would like the "daughter" of an insane witch-hag

merry arch
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TRUE

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mun four... mun four my beloved

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i love the dowager so much

knotty islandBOT
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Mun Four

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is interesting

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And I hope to God I never meet her

marsh garden
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i hope she gets cool things in riders

tulip folio
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Makes note 'Random endings sid that turns up to battles and goes I Think Everyone Should Die' as an NPC

spiral cosmos
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mun four getting things in riders is not what anyone meant but it is a funny img

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like she just shows up randomly in different underworld locations

prisma sun
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I thought Mun Four was in agents

spiral cosmos
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yes

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she is

marsh garden
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"i show up in companion books now"

spiral cosmos
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like valdris

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"+1 essence per appearance"

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Run.

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🏃‍♀️💨

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She's invented mirrorshades, clearly making her the coolest person in the setting

knotty islandBOT
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How unbalanced would it be to have a version of flesh-and-bone wind as a sorcery?

merry arch
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the effect exists as a necromancy and is balanced so i'm going to say not unbalanced

knotty islandBOT
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Fair

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I mostly ask because I am making a sorcerer who by dint of being a Lintha and an owl is

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fairly fixated on entrails <XD

merry arch
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yah, abyssals says to make necromancy versions of existing spells so i dont really think it's bad form to do the reciprocal in kind

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it's one of the only things that necromancy does, so i definitely wouldn't like it if they printed a canon one, but for your game do whatever

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oughhhhhh

knotty islandBOT
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Coolcool

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knotty islandBOT
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oh no I think borb has an opinion about that

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oughhhhhhhhhhhhh abyssals necromancy section

marsh garden
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necromancy is uh

knotty islandBOT
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I am about to be smote

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extremely limited?

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and it does Exactly Its Thing

merry arch
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ok i stepped on a landmine killing myself /j

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so letting sorcery also do its thing means it's entirely useless

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but converting for home games is converting for home games

merry arch
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i will see myself out

velvet raft
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Yeah there are topics I think sorcery should probably leave to the necromancers

spiral cosmos
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im putting my girlfriend to smeep for a nap and must not start gnashing my teeth about how much I dislike necromancy's presentation as being able to share almost any hypothetical spell with sorcery if you just twist a few details

marsh garden
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lmao

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or else it will wake her and she will torture me with more insane 3e builds

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LMAO

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<XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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Stuff to do with souls, and the void, and the undead, and etc.

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runs away

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i just wish that sorcery was more restricted

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There could stand to be like

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and that there weren't so fucking many sidebars in abyssals for so many things that say "yeah you can steal this :)"

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"the themes of this book don't matter bro just do whatever :)"

velvet raft
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A concrete list of spells that can be both sorcery and necromancy

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Rather than just telling you to draw the owl

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I literally said we should make a list

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"convert an abyssal to a solar, it's fine. swap sorc and necro it's all g"

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They did not

velvet raft
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It's not like there are that many spells!

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it really ain't

knotty islandBOT
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...

marsh garden
knotty islandBOT
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would flesh and bone wind have made the list

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why would they say no

spiral cosmos
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You already have DOOB and FotBR don't be greedy!

marsh garden
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it can't have been too many extra pages, no?

velvet raft
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Ionas have you considered just giving the lunar necromancy

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Lunars are specifically equally good at both

knotty islandBOT
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Briefly, but there are some thematic pressures against, in my estimation

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The most important in this case being his status as a Lintha, the literal family of demonblooded sorcerer pirates who would denigrate him for doing that shit instead of sorcery

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When he is intended to at least partially be a social climber

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The second most important being he is Literally A Warlock

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of Ululaya

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Admittedly that second part is something he decided to do, but part of that calculation was the fact that being a warlock of one of Kimbery's 3CDs is a helluva feather in the cap

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for a Lintha

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The obvious answer to these conundrums is

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'Do both'

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In which case I have no real counter, have a wonderful day

velvet raft
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Yeah do both :P

south horizon
knotty islandBOT
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...

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so.i was looking at the screen like "What do you mean by owl"

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lol

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do you not know the "rest of the fucking owl" joke?

knotty islandBOT
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if this is a joke about me gk I'm gonna fuckin kill you (as a friend)

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Oh

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Wait no I do know this joke

south horizon
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nay, just a reference to the bad art tutorial meme

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south horizon
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3e homebrew in a nutshell

velvet raft
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Delilah mentions it frequently enough that it's on my mind re: Exalted

south horizon
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that really is how it feels.to play exalted and come on to one of the like

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50 different things that you need to.homebrew

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but have ti either lack guidance

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or go scrounging

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This is how Essence Induction Technique makes me feel, it's true

south horizon
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god i don't even remember whicg charm.that is

velvet raft
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It's the E5 Occult charm where you make a spirit

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i think the most annoying part is how insistent some folks are that it's a plus and not a minus

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i like homebrew

velvet raft
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That is supposed to gain experience with you

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i've dipped my toes into exalted homebrew by now, albeit none of it what anyone could call good

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but

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i like homebrew best when i have helpful guidelines and when i don't feel obligated to do it

velvet raft
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Note: there are no rules for making the spirit, and no rules for it spending experience

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The charm is clearly meant to be like

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An Occult Supernal Solar's schtick

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"I have a cool spirit buddy"

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But it has no actual rules

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right

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that fuckin bitch

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god Occult in core ia

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such a fucked charm list

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It sucks

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It sucks so bad

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or like, +300% if you buy a bunch of alters

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with their own entire fucking charmsets, ability lists, and i think even attribute spreads

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Survival

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survival is the worst tree

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because someone could be tricked i to investing into survival

wise ocean
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ever-popular for good reason

marsh garden
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i do want to make a necro tank spell, i just need to figure out a hook to make it interesting and on-theme

knotty islandBOT
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There's also that other necro spell that I'm gonna take, now that this Lintha is a necrosorc

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The Birds (Alfred Hitchcock)

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da boids

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crow storm is so fucking funny

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i love it

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i'm so glad BIS's backer asked for it

south spade
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So is this the kinda setting where all necromancy is objective evil?

knotty islandBOT
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Nope

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It can be, depending on how it's done

south spade
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Oh ball okay
I hate when necromancy is arbitrarily evil

south horizon
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not inherently evil

knotty islandBOT
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But it's no morally worse than sorcery

south horizon
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kinda imherently, like

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off

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Like “oh even raising a zombie tortures the soul forever”

knotty islandBOT
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All magic in Exalted, sorcery and necromancy, gives its practitioners Certified Weird Vibes

spiral cosmos
# wise ocean ever-popular for good reason

she got into exalted by looking at an essence sma that was kind of broken on its release version i think, as a way to find elaborate funny mechanical pairs to torture me with

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awful girl

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because summoning ghosts is very useful

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this is not different from sorcery

knotty islandBOT
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And not different from being

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where summoning demons is even better

knotty islandBOT
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Most Guild Upper Crust

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tbh

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but not evil

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because it is filtered through the neverborn

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and yeah it's not ontologically evil, it's just you choosing to use the powers that torture and/or enslave people

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because they're very good at their job

knotty islandBOT
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Yeah necromancy is rather more gross than most sorcery

marsh garden
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there's some less vile necro like the bone throne

knotty islandBOT
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blood, bone, flesh and sinew and all that

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but it's still about grime and gristle and subjugation

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it's supposed to be, at absolute minimum, rather uncomfy

knotty islandBOT
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Emily have you seen the show Twilight of the Gods?

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The character Seid-Kona from Twilight of the Gods makes a good blueprint for an Exalted necromancer imo

south horizon
spiral cosmos
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i don't think necromancy is very nice to ghosts either

south horizon
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there are a few necrimancy spells that offer succor to the dead

marsh garden
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a few, for sure

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and stuff like flesh-sloughing wave that ignores em entirely

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but you still have slavery time

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and ghost-mutilating buttons

south horizon
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glamces at dmeon.summoning

marsh garden
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well yeah

prisma sun
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I do think giving a blanket statement of "if you want to reflavor these mechanics go ahead" is good for the record because sometimes homebrewing is hard

marsh garden
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i said that demon summoning is both absurdly optimal and pretty evil already, i think

knotty islandBOT
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yeah demons are less

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bullshit faff than making undead minions

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at least upfront

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On the back end, a talented necromancer can get three minions for the price of one; the body, upper soul, and lower soul

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labor, specialized skills, bestial and hungry rage

south horizon
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i know, but i like

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literally prefaced my entire talk with that

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sorcery also has everything in infernals

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for evil shit

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and the face stealing spell in mfs

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etc etc

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that was part of my initial point

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that they're both pretty grody

south horizon
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Ye, but i was saying that Necromancy only has to be at a base level uncomfy from the perspective of interactions with the living. If you're focused on the dead you can have much more relatively chill effects

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there just aeen't that many necayae a majority of users of necromancy are insane and tied to the neverborn to some.degree

marsh garden
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pardon?

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i can't parse that

south horizon
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basically, necromancy can.be chill if.the main.target of the spell is a dead person

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it just isn't typically.used that way because.most.necromancers are assholes

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no i just

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don't know what "that many necayae" was supposed to say

south horizon
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*aren't that many becauzs

marsh garden
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i see

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i kind of fundamentally disagree

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summoning is the main draw, it's still slavery

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Abhorrence of Breath makes ghosts ontologically hate you

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Oh i like that Threaten isnt necessarily stupid

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As an action

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Because its the only one that basically needs no intimacies

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As long as you can provide A Consequence

marsh garden
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Creeping Calcification is indiscriminate and pretty torturous to spirits, including ghosts

south horizon
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again

marsh garden
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"can" and "is by default" are different

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the aesthetics of necromancy, the fact that most necromancers don't leave ghosts because necromancy is weirdwrong, the amount of it that's just

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about hurting people with the unnatural state of death

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it presents a certain image

south horizon
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i dom't disagree but unles si'm mistaking

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there are chill spells.that are mainly targeted at ghosts

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which shows the potential

marsh garden
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there is potential for comfort with the dead, yeah

south horizon
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ye, that's my gist. Necromancy could be used in a more chill way in regards to the dead but 90% of the practioners who study it are either working with or influenced by the Neverborn so that colors a lot

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potential vs the lived reality

marsh garden
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i mean, i disagree that it's "its potential" so much as "a careful and narrow way to use it"

south horizon
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ChenShrug 3e makes it clear that the Neverborn are not the sole arbiters of the underworld this go around

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just the biggest

marsh garden
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they're not the arbiters, no

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but they're the sole reason why it exists

south horizon
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They're why it exists as it does now

marsh garden
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this colors it and everything around it forever

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no

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they're why a thing called the Underworld exists

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before the Neverborn, there was not an Underworld

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there was the Lethe

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there was nothing in the Lethe

south horizon
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i'm pretty sure 3e introduced some vibe that there was a space before

marsh garden
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there was the Sea of Shadows, and we don't really know if there was anything in the Sea of Shadows

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but there was no Underworld

south horizon
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but i don't have the time.to.double check since i'm at work

marsh garden
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the Underworld is the stain

south horizon
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but i do remember because i remember people.complaining about it elsewhere

marsh garden
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it, and everything it has ever been and likely will ever be, is forever warped by its origin

south horizon
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The Old.Laws are a thing that exist before

marsh garden
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this doesn't mean it can't be anything else

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but it means that it will always be influenced by this

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unless someone flushes them, of course

south horizon
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Assumingnthat doesn't flush everything else

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which, as always, is ST dependant

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i love the neverborn and yozi's as just monuments to the consequences to even justified actions

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The primordials were tyrants that had to be taken down, but also, doing so has had unseen ramifications that can never be cleanly.undone

marsh garden
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i mean, also the way they "took down" the yozis was pretty unambiguously evil

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which is very relevant to the setting's themes

tulip folio
knotty islandBOT
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Was wondering what this storm-themed Lintha Warlock was gonna take for Eclipse Charms, and then It Hit Me

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Major Hellish Investiture allows him to take this

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Well, if the ST agrees such a charm is on-theme for an Ululaya warlock which he may not!

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south spade
knotty islandBOT
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Do I make my Lintha a weird Kimber/Ululaya and Encarnadine Path sycnretic cultist...

south horizon
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we. love syncretism

spiral cosmos
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in general i think it's kind of just beamed in from another dimension where the rest of the book is as good 🗿 but i think it holds up

knotty islandBOT
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I think I gotta tbh, it makes him a cohesively fucked up, blood-obsessed freakLunar

Son of a Nice Lady ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161699000836165714 message) we. love syncretism

spiral cosmos
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Would that there were only the waters, with none to linger there and witness them. Alas, instead, there is the Underworld. There could be no greater tragedy.

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god who fucking put that second comma there

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i should be allowed to kill that editor with a hammer

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it's not as bad as the mutilation my alchemicals work got but still

south horizon
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oof

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but also glad to see i did not hallucinate that insinuation

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since i thiiiink that's a big erinkle.to what Liminals.and Yhe Dark Mother represent in the vibes of the underworld

wise ocean
# limpid badge Necromancy is gleaned from the Whispers of the Neverborn and the ravings of Spec...

There is something to be said for the idea that merely listening to the Neverborn is not an abdication of moral position; indeed, nor is necessarily putting their teachings into practice. A necromancer may source their blood from the standard village slaughter of goats at the turn of the moon, and their bones from the unburied dead of the Realm's battlefields as that vast empire begins its long march towards autocannibalism. They may draw their pain from that inflicted by others, and in so doing wash their hands of the matter - as this righteous necromancer might say, a true and deeply spiritual student of the sourceless and eternal and inevitable suffering of the Neverborn, someone was going to do it anyway. They may as well also benefit. Stated in such a manner, free from the righteous necromancer's heady thoughts of power without common price, the abyss that yawns open in front of such a creature and the altar of simple rationalism becomes starkly apparent.

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wise ocean
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I have given Much Thought to this for my necrosid and how it very starkly literalizes the Cold War utilitarianism practiced by the various intelligence agencies

To see across the world, one literally sacrifices five innocent lives. Such is the price of power

limpid badge
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its not that different from the Divorce Beam

south horizon
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the what

wise ocean
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cash and murder games, iirc

south horizon
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oh are u talking avout the sid charm.that makes you unlovable

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ah

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not shun the smiling lady

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god that charm

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is so fucked

wise ocean
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though the natural touchstone in the charmset that directly relates is dead spouse defense

prisma sun
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The Verminous Cockroach Emperor Who Will Devour Heaven If Given One Step Of Quarter

is a really good name for a behemoth

clever steeple
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I was expecting like "Oh they're gonna write specific rules for how to distribute skills and dots for Spirit NPCs(not good but they were there) like the CofD books do, kinda annoying to simply point towards them without a pg ref but whatever."

limpid badge
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i kinda have been using demon templates a lot. This is how i built Arby’s Horrible Ogre. He’s a blood ape with a babby excellency

velvet raft
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The demon templates in Infernals help so much

marsh garden
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yeah, i'm glad there're demon and machine spirit templates

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i really hope we get similar ones, but if not at least i can steal those

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and do surgery on them for other spirits

tulip folio
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Terrestrial Geomantic Initiation
Cost: —; Mins: Intelligence 3, Essence 1
Type: Permanent
Keywords: None
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisite Charms: None
Unlike mortals, the Jadeborn's essence is designed to be shaped in intricately designed patterns that do not make for natural combat sorcerers. However,  in turn, that mastery of patterns and their deep connection to the dragon lines of creation makes them natural experts at countermagic and geomancy.

The Jadeborn is initiated into Terrestrial-Level Sorcery, gaining one Terrestrial-Circle Control Spell. Their unusual nature however has the following differences to normal sorcerers:

  • She treats all spells as Ritual Spells and cannot learn Shaping Rituals (Though they may still learn the merits associated with their initiation method, such as a Soul-Perfecting Elixir).
  • She is treated as having knowledge of all spells of a circle she is initiated into for the purpose of Counterspelling and Distortion.
  • Once per story she may ignore the experience cost for a sorcerous working that involves Crafting, Geomancy or Undoing A Spell.

Playing about with Jadeborn Magic. Pondering how this feels relative to a normal terrestrial sorcery access charm. You can't get Combat Magic but they're a bit better with counterspelling and workings.

fierce star
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I like it, it's very thematic

tulip folio
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...so, I just realized something very funny. The martial art best at dealing with the Lover Clad In Raiment of Tears?

Black Claw

As the martial art with an express 'grabbed your heart' charm and the Lover's demiurgic art not being usable if she's lost her heart.

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Are you a toxic enough martial artist to gaslight, girlboss and gatekeep the Lover Clad In Raiment of Tears?

clever steeple
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Strongest girlboss of today vs strongest deergirl of history

fierce star
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oh my god

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I love that

wise ocean
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... holy shit you're right

fierce star
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outgirlboss the girlbosser

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become girlbossest

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... do you think Venus knows Black Claw style?

knotty islandBOT
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Very, very possibly

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Kijamano almost certainly does

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I do imagine Black Claw is a popular choice for the more (gender)boss amongst the Cerulean Lute

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Also fuck I came in here to ask a question but answering your question combined with my pdf reader crashing made me forget it

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OH!

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Would brigandine, in people's mind, be better represented as Light or Medium armor?

tulip folio
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I'd lean medium.

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But either could work

fierce star
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I'd lean medium as well

knotty islandBOT
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I'm leaning light, but admittedly based on limited exposure to examples of brigandine that are not European

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And in those cases a kind of brigandine that would basically be a replacer for the breastplate

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which by itself in this system is light

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I agree the larger coats of plates going down to like

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The knee

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are most definitely medium

wise ocean
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breastplate is only light for artifact and heavier in mundane, no?

marsh garden
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nnnno, a breastplate is light in both

wise ocean
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huh, there we have it

marsh garden
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hough

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i want to make an exigent...

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but i don't want to make a full fucking balanced charmset

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despair

spiral cosmos
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simply start with figuring out what u can steal and reflavor

fierce star
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This is why I am waiting for alchs companion for my main exigent, the Chosen of Charkaid, God of Warstriders. I am going to stela so much from the warstrider martial arts.

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colossus martial arts

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those things

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big boy punch good

knotty islandBOT
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You know what I think is an underdone Eclipse archetype

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The historian

fierce star
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hrm

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I think historian would want to be lore supernal, which isn't int he eclipse list unfortunately

knotty islandBOT
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Ah, but I present this as a counterpoint!

IterationDrive (Backer 8) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1161699000836165714 message) I think historian would want to be lore supernal, which isn't int he eclipse list unfortunately

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Histories (when they're good), are meant to not just record what happened, they are meant to synthesize it into a greater knowledge gained than the sum of its parts and, in part, persuade the reader that this particular lens on the happenings recorded therein has more innate value than a dry recording of events and, possibly, other works trying to do the same thing

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Linguistics Supernal

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With Lore favored of course you need to know what the fuck you're writing about

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But anyone with a lore specialty in a particular topic knows what is needed to then use their skill with Linguistics to write a quality, compelling treatise/history/etc on that topic

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Now of course, given this is Exalted

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Would this framing of a historian descend into borderline hagiography half the time because they become the subject of their histories?

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Yes