Exalted

[bleak hazel]

great timing, and it again makes it really hard to trade with you

[spiral cosmos]

if you really want to be Funny

mantis style

crushing claw technique gets ridonculous with sidereal brawl help

[prisma sun]

I think the vibe with this character is genuinely gonna be

Full Brute

No Skill

doesn't even give a shit about martial arts

https://i.imgur.com/Z57t4pJ.png

HUH

Man

Sid Presence can really just shit out like 4 intimidate rolls a turn

[bleak hazel]

I'm currently making a bluesid and I was in fact drawn to Mantis/Brawl

admittedly also Snake/Brawl because I just really like the clash on that one

[bleak hazel]

I suspect no other charm has gotten more Sids killed than this one

it's really good though

[prisma sun]

Should give it to Drifts tbh

considering he doesn't have the craftts one

[buoyant summit]

idk if this is the place to ask but what is 'the City'???

I've seen the same posting but I guess I wonder if the crossover is like

Even a good fit???

[wise ocean]

I'd say it can be

[buoyant summit]

I know less than nothing about the setting

I didn't even know all those weird ass games took place in the same universe

[marsh garden]

i cannot imagine it is, because i struggle to square the two very distinct settings, but

[velvet raft]

Limbus is at least like

A very high-power setting

[marsh garden]

in brief, the City (setting of the Project Moon games) is a South Korean critique of the capitalist nightmare parts of their culture through the lens of a fantastical and exaggerated Seoul, which is then combined with a massive melting pot world and a lot of cosmic and gothic horror

[velvet raft]

The badasses are very badass

[buoyant summit]

slow cocking of our head

[marsh garden]

the City itself is a truly, indescribably vast megacity, the size a continent at least

[buoyant summit]

Oh yeah we watched a video recently on why modern cities are Cursed as shit

[fierce star]

I've never really gotten into the project moon games but i get a lot of BLAME from them, thematically?

[marsh garden]

it's divided into districts, ruled in strange ways by 26 alphabet-coded corporations that each have their own secret supernatural technologies called Singularities

these are controlled by the Head, comprised of the A, B, and C corps, which very deliberately obscure themselves, their rules, and their capabilities to make their control opaque and terrifying

[mighty rover]

autocthon 📝

[chilly sluice]

hmm, a little sometimes
but generally the vast scale of the setting is mostly just a backdrop

[marsh garden]

a couple of the important notes here are control over firearms and definitions of "human"

[wise ocean]

also all the trains drive you insane over ten thousand years of Event Horizon and then they scrape you off the walls after the fact

[marsh garden]

guns exist, but the Head only allows one corp to manufacture bullets, and enforces astronomically high prices on those bullets

they want killing to be very easy, but they want that kind of ease to be inaccessible to the poor

and they have a lot of weird esoteric philosophical definitions of humanity, and ways people diverge from it

[chilly sluice]

there's also a bunch of other stipulations, like how bullets aren't allowed to pierce walls

[marsh garden]

human-shaped machines are a heresy, and if you have specifically mechanical augments they have to be obviously mechanical

they also have really oblique rules on how and why you can clone yourself

that i won't get into but also tie into that weirdness

[marsh garden]

note: literally anything else is fine, you can give yourself superstrength through like, integrated meshes or Woke Laser Red Eyes that do nebulous magic bullshit

you can have magic tattoos that give you all sorts of power

it's specifically machines

and the blending of robotics and humanity

parts of this are extremely pertinent to both of the first two games

[prisma sun]

Its technically only the size of Belgium

But its a lot bigger on the inside due to casual space manipulation technology

[marsh garden]

doesn't limbus throw that on its head?

oh ic

[prisma sun]

Limbus is where we know that from

Since the map tells us the size

[marsh garden]

gotcha, i'm not caught up

[prisma sun]

Its not new info

Its about 220×227 km

Which is roughly the size of Taiwan

But yeah

I am also still very confused how these settings mesh

But also I really like both so fuck it

[buoyant summit]

This sounds like something you'd do for a hypothetical future autochthon

where metropoli have mixed together and shit

[prisma sun]

Ehh its not 1 to 1

Theres giant forests, rice plains, deserts, and even an ocean called the Great Lake

[buoyant summit]

fair lmao

[spiral cosmos]

unfortunately my introduction to the franchise was lobotomy corporation

and lobcorp is kind of fucking unplayable

[prisma sun]

Lobcorp is hostile yes

My introduction was Limbus which I think is fantastic to get into it tbh

[marsh garden]

ruina's a better game. however

limbus has my blorbos

[tulip folio]

Playing about with something for Wanderers based on how very 'oh yeah, here are cool forms your raksha can pick up' 2e fae were and also the fact we have a keyword for mutually exclusive forms.

New Keyword: Form(Assumption)
Imbued with the power of the wyld, Wanderers draw deeply upon stories. Assumptions are the pinnacle of this power, the ability to step into a role so completely that it becomes a physical part of oneself. Assumptions are treated as forms (For not even a Wanderer can easily take on the aspect of both a Centipede and a Raging Tempest simultaneously) with the following differences:
  • Assumptions are overt and cannot be hidden, involving physical transformations and glamourous miens.
  • A character in an assumption treats all damage from Iron as Aggravated Damage, her Wyld soul boiling at its touch.
  • Each assumption has one or more Core Intimacies. While in the assumption, the Wanderer is considered to have those intimacies for good or for ill. These intimacies cannot be weakened or altered by any means.
  • Some charms specifically refer to assumptions. These charms will not affect more conventional forms.

[spiral cosmos]

no centipede form.... heartbroken

[marsh garden]

sleeping on it and rereading this, i do think it's probably a good idea

since being bad at external martial arts makes them more distinct from Getimians as another Wyld-focused patronless attribute-based youxia exalt with internal alchemy

i imagine the details of get charms will also differ drastically, once we get em, but having one of their like

greater-scope "Things" be different will help with descriptions

[tulip folio]

It's in part on a bit of a meta level to make 'Oh, I really want at least one martial art' less of a thing as an attribute-based exalt, yeah.

As even if you mostly use in-case charms, having 'a good form' is something that everyone likes from martial arts.

[marsh garden]

oh, that's every terrestrial att exalt

none of em can combine MAs, so it's not really a gimme there

[tulip folio]

I'm thinking the dex attribute form will play into being a rogue. It doesn't help normal attacks at all but does boost most gambits.

As with dex as generally the 'combat' stat, it feels like it would be too easy to make it just the 'fight gooderer' one

[prisma sun]

Aight tomorrow I think I make the most thug bastard Sidereal ever

[spiral cosmos]

punchmaxx

[tulip folio]

Assumption of the Rogue
Cost: 10m, 1wp; Mins: Dexterity 5, Essence 3
Type: Simple
Keywords: Form(Assumption)
Duration: One scene
Prerequisite Charms: A Few
Drawing upon dangerous, daredevil schemes and tales, the Wanderer assumes an archetypal role of a gold-hearted thief, one who brings the cruel down with cunning and flair.

The Wanderer gains the following benefits:
  • Her identity is perfectly concealed.
  • She never suffers environmental penalties for stealth and can move normally while hidden. She can sprint across rice paper carrying a lantern and singing without penalizing her stealth.
  • She gains +1 Defence and ignores penalties for being Prone. 
  • In combat, when she performs a gambit that is a Disarm, Distract or a Gambit granted by a charm, she adds (Essence/2) dice to the attack and initiative rolls.

Core Intimacies: The High And Mighty(Mocking Disregard, Major), I'm The Sharpest Person Here (Principle, Major)

Special activation rules: If the Wanderer pickpockets or disarms a non-trivial character, she may reflexively enter this Form.

Some combat, some stealth but only a little of it is 'I want to get in a straight up brawl' boosting.

[wise ocean]

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god she was so cool

Bluesky · Apr 22, 2026, 4:15 AM

[limpid badge]

cuuuuute

[marsh garden]

holy shit

can't believe i hadn't seen this evocation lol

hm, what all offers you ways to extend your melee range

i'm sure some LS charm or another

[prisma sun]

Sids can target everyone in Extreme Range

with Thrown

https://i.imgur.com/t6kmTjT.png

Okay well

Probably only long

[marsh garden]

thankfully, smashfists aren't a thrown weapon

usually.

[prisma sun]

doesn't matter

[marsh garden]

?

[prisma sun]

Versatile

[marsh garden]

versatile means you can combine [This Charm] with Martial Arts

[prisma sun]

yis

[marsh garden]

not with everything

[prisma sun]

Yeah

So if you get a martial arts that lets you use Smashfists, bam

Long Range Punch

[marsh garden]

as far as i'm aware, that's only with Thrown weapons

[prisma sun]

Hrmmm

[marsh garden]

just like how you can't use Speared Boar Struggle with a daiklave

on VBOS

[prisma sun]

Ah well, then we go to ol' reliable

https://i.imgur.com/V6DalGM.png

[marsh garden]

oh, neat, that does work

so you can get up to long range with it

that sounds pretty ridiculous

[prisma sun]

To be fair its only max essence on the starfists

So really you probably tap out at short range when it matters

[marsh garden]

oh yeah, i just mean in that it lets you extort like

a million collective motes and WP out of your enemies

or else go "that one" and press the Kill That Guy Instantly button on whoever skimped at all

[limpid badge]

Cost: fuck Mins: Ess 1
Type: fuck
Keywords: Withering-Only?
Duration: Instant
Prereq: None
To use this charm, there must be a piece of terrain? Make a (Str+Melee) Ranged Attack out to medium range, destroying the terrain with the Black Blade dealing [DamageWithering] to single targets and [DamageYes] to battlegroups. Discount the cost of this charm if you use it on a statue created by the Black Blade.```

aaaah

[bleak hazel]

There's a Sid Archery one for that too, so you can straight up use a bow

It's in a few trees

The potentiality gauntlets, like all artifacts in Alchs, are pretty cranked

[tulip folio]

Sids do it by writing 'to whom it may concern' on the side of the arrow.

[bleak hazel]

That multiattack that hits with every attack if any of its component attacks hit is insane

[marsh garden]

that's the uhhhhh

i cannot remember its name, the e2 archery charm that splashes close, right?

(the archery charm)

[tulip folio]

Yeah you pick a location and anyone in short range of it goes 'Shit, why is there a red circle around us all?'

[marsh garden]

is it short? i thought it was close

[bleak hazel]

and then Brawl has Someone Dies Strike which is similar but works differently

[tulip folio]

Not at book, not 100% sure

[bleak hazel]

I love Someone Dies Strike dearly

[tulip folio]

Those charms look really great for resource draining.

As a lot of people end up needing to go 'I don't need to dodge the attack, I just need to dodge better than my friend'

[limpid badge]

i wish i had the thunderbolt in 3e it would make this battlesid so much easier

[tulip folio]

Thunderbolt?

[bleak hazel]

I had considered making a firewand that just had all the old Lightning Bolt charms as evos

[limpid badge]

From 2e's Shards of the Exalted Dream, the Constellation of Gun

[bleak hazel]

The Lightning Bolt was the Sidereal Firearms constellation

[marsh garden]

wack

[bleak hazel]

or sudden and overwhelming violence generally

[limpid badge]

When the Thunderbolt Strikes, it is random and utterly deadly.

Someone will die when you pull the trigger

The question you must answer is who

[tulip folio]

Ah, yeah. I'll admit, I was never a huge fan if 'gun is a whole new ability next to archery and thrown' but there were some fun gun-themed charms.

[bleak hazel]

Featuring a series of absolute banger charm names like "Holistic Bullet Methodology", "Steel and Smoke Mandala" and "The Perfect Miss"

HBM is back as Holistic Arsenal Methodology, the charm that apparently only I will sing the praises of

[limpid badge]

yeah i getchu but also like. i feel like the narrative requirements of "Scifi"/"Modern" begs for Firearms as a skilltree

[bleak hazel]

Honestly "new virtual constellation I made up" is fun thematic grounds for 5*

[tulip folio]

...hell, make it a constellation that was torn from the sky and forged into starmetal.

[bleak hazel]

Sid aimlessly daydreaming about what would be the fundamental threads of reality if he got to pick them

and settling on "everybody was gun fu fighting"

[tulip folio]

...vague pondering: Is there any charms in 3e that replicate what in lancer would be reliable? That 'I missed but I still get a little effect' sort of thing?

[limpid badge]

ain't that overwhelming

[bleak hazel]

Consider instead: veteran of the devil star war who took a set of dead Stars and forged them into a constellation about it

Sudden and Overwhelming Violence but via the theme of "outside context problem"

[tulip folio]

Overwhelming is for 'I hit but couldn't punch through soak'.

[marsh garden]

depends, do you mean OVW or the things like reroll misses for lower damage?

because there are a few things like that

it's Gyroscopic Chakrams' baseline gimmick

[tulip folio]

The one I can think of is on Gyroscopic Cha...yeah

[marsh garden]

and there are other artifacts and splat charms that do it as well

[tulip folio]

Also: One of these days I kinda want to make a Gyroscopic Chakram Sidereal.

[marsh garden]

like someone dies strike, the aforementioned potentiality gauntlets, Sky Phalanx, etc.

[tulip folio]

'I hit but only do minimum damage. I'm an endings sid so my minimum damage is...9'

[limpid badge]

also hi friends im taking advice on more artifact writing bc i have to make my black blade of sorrows

[marsh garden]

unrelated, vibe check on evocations requested: e4-e5, feats of destruction first on intimacies and spells (continuous charms? i know there's something that does that but i don't remember what or how recently, and neither could the other goober i was talking with)

[limpid badge]

should i? look at white reaper? i wanna make it an anti-battlegroup kit but im not sure.... aaah

[bleak hazel]

Oh by the way I kicked off the Sunderdome with Rival vs Ligier and we're on round 10 with nobody getting hit yet except one that Ligier deliberately let through for chip so he could have a radiance to threaten clashes with

[limpid badge]

its good for bloody hand to have to aura farm on goons to wake her swords up

[marsh garden]

and then on [the physical space of a range band]

[bleak hazel]

We 2e now

[marsh garden]

(not the people in it)

[bleak hazel]

White Reaper is effective but not incredibly drippy

Like Tiger it just kind of works and then the halos are pleasant seasoning

[limpid badge]

i mostly want mechanical points of reference as i try and build out what the hell the art 5 kit looks like

[marsh garden]

i too have been flying in the dark

i have most of a shell that i'm happy with now, but

that's why i wanted to solicit opinions

[limpid badge]

do not have a shell, have a jumping off point of stealing gorgon's gimmick

[marsh garden]

that's useful!

[tulip folio]

The reason I was pondering about that reliable thing was basicly 'Hmm...maybe do something like that for wanderers to play up Inhuman Fey Skill'. Some ability to turn misses into minor hits.

[marsh garden]

isn't that just Excellencies

[tulip folio]

Excellencies are used before and not really as a 'Oh damn, turn a failure into a much lesser success' sorta thing.

[marsh garden]

could make their excellencies use sux or some other reliability dice trick then

[tulip folio]

I was thinking more along the lines of what Gyroscopic Chakrams get, yeah

[marsh garden]

if that's what you wanted

man, there really aren't very many fae in 3e to look at

and all of the ones in HDNP are...in HDNP

so v inconsistent

[tulip folio]

Yep. It's why I've got my 2e books open. 2e fae had some funny things.

They had a charm that was 'I always win'

That was the effect

It didn't apply vs rolls that are magically enhanced (Such as with an excellency).

But it meant that unless you could bring some magic or iron, the fae just went 'Nah, I'm better'

[marsh garden]

ah, so they were very good at punching down but not at punching up

[tulip folio]

Fae in 2e basicly got hard countered by exalts

[marsh garden]

makes sense

[tulip folio]

Because shaping defences were scene-long and absolute.

And everything a fae did basicly was shaping

[marsh garden]

in 2e exalts were supposed to be more explicitly shaped

[tulip folio]

2e fae were not well designed mechanically but played in a lot of fun conceptual space that is inspiring some design stuff.

[marsh garden]

so making them ontologically supereffective against the fae seems like a pretty reasonable secondary priority

[tulip folio]

And oddly enough, the 'traveling places in the wyld' rules were perhaps some of the best travel rules exalted ever had.

Where you basicly set up waypoints, which were 'here is an Interesting Thing' and it was about going waypoint to waypoint rather than tracking precise distances.

So it would be 'between town 1 and town 2 is the Big Spooky Forest, which is gunna be some rolls to overcome'

[wise ocean]

this is a beautiful thing

there is a point in graves's build where he goes damn. that's a lot of soak. haha. I do minimum damage.

[rolls 16 dice]

[tulip folio]

The waypoint system inspired one of the Wanderer Travel Charms.

Walk the Faerie Road
Cost: 3m, 1wp Mins: Wits 3, Essence 1
Type: Simple
Keywords: None
Duration: One hour or Instant
Prerequisites: Divergent Paths
The Wanderer drops a runed stone, breadcrumb or twinkling gem, marking a place in her memory she can always return to.

The Wanderer familiarises her with current location over the course of a minute, creating a mystical waypoint she can return to. This waypoint hangs in the air (or in the water, on the ground, etc.). It’s visible but immaterial and remains in place for one hour. The waypoint immediately dissipates if the Wanderer moves more than a mile away from it. Characters capable of striking dematerialized targets can destroy the Waypoint with a difficulty 2 gambit against Defense 1. The Wanderer can have a number of Waypoints equal to (Wits/2, rounded up), with additional ones created resulting in a previous one of the Wanderer's choice being lost.

Alternatively, this charm lets her pull herself through space, immediately teleporting back to a Waypoint of her choice, dissipating that Waypoint. When used this way, the Charm’s Willpower cost is waived. If used during combat, it requires a difficulty 4 (Wits + Athletics, Ride, or Survival) roll, suffering a penalty equal to the number of nontrivial enemies within medium range of her; if she’s in a battle group’s space, she also suffers a penalty equal to its Size.

Keys:

Hidden Fairy Fort: The Waypoint becomes near imperceivable, requiring a (Perception + Awareness) roll at a difficulty equal to the Wanderer's (Wits + Essence) to notice.

Deep Rooted Paths(Essence 2): Waypoints created this way last one Story and allow the Wanderer to travel up to ten miles from them before they dissipate. Waypoints created within the Wyld (Including Bordermarches) are even more enduring, allowing the Wanderer to be up to (Essence) times as far away as normal before dissipating.

Elf Ring Portal(Essence 3): The Wanderer can also use this charm to link her current location to that of a Waypoint or to link the location of two Waypoints, creating a stable passage. As long as the Waypoints remains intact, any character can pass between the two locations as if walking through an open doorway. The Wanderer may end this effect as a Simple action, dissipating all linked Waypoints.

Paths That Predate Creation(Deep Rooted Paths, Essence 5): Waypoints are permanent until used and do not dissipate regardless of your distance from them. You may even maintain Waypoints in different planes of reality, though attempting to leave or enter Malfeas via a Waypoint or Elf Ring Portal will take five days of travel along the Wyld paths instead of being instantaneous.

Where you Make Waypoints and can travel to them

[velvet raft]

I suggest looking at the higher-Essence, anti-BG evocations from The Burning Branch, in Arms. There’s some cool tech and examples of what kinda bs can be gotten up to

[limpid badge]

hrmn... unfortunate!! i am trying to build out a lower-essence kit with a couple extra toys here

[wise ocean]

bh is e1 and that's the entire reason gorgon has to be rewritten, for clarification

[velvet raft]

Might still be usable as a reference point? Trying to think of anti BG artifacts

[limpid badge]

its really unfortunate if half her name doesn't actually do anything because it has One Charm At E1 yeah

[bleak hazel]

Telek has burning branch, it's a personal favourite, but again only truly pops off at high essence

[limpid badge]

telek is potential man and we love him

[bleak hazel]

both because you need to get the good evos and because Conflagration Lance Technique at E1 is 4m for Double 10s and (Essence) autosux on your attack 1/scene

so at E1 it's nice and at E5 it's "dirt cheap full excellency decisive, go"

[velvet raft]

Maybe approach it from the perspective of what kinda anti-BG tech isn’t covered under abyssal melee’s kit?

[marsh garden]

oh wait

i just realized

did Bloody Hand take her name invoking the slaughter gods called bloody hands?

that's sick

[velvet raft]

The Black Blade in question petrified and makes coral grow on people, right? What if you could do a gambit to fuck up some of a BG’s advantages by doing that to the terrain?

[marsh garden]

oooh

coral time...

[velvet raft]

Army cannot maneuver because of giant coral formations and so on

Phrase it as using the blade’s powers on the least gods of earth in the area

[limpid badge]

Her name is A Bloody Hand Holds Aloft A Black Blade of Sorrows because she murdered her brother with it to claim her exaltation from the neverborn directly

[marsh garden]

i see, a very normal girlie

[limpid badge]

this is something i was considering? the idea of cashing out it being at least half awake as the capstone of the e1 stuff

[velvet raft]

Makes sense

[limpid badge]

i love her is the thing

[marsh garden]

i too, love the her

and the nosebleed

[limpid badge]

her personal pronoun is this sinner

[limpid badge]

the current barest skeleton is "turn the basic gimmick into a freebie charm that lets her get free Smash attacks when her sword isn't Awake"

[marsh garden]

sick

[velvet raft]

What I’m visualizing is forcing people to fight her 1-to-1, and therefore die, by mucking up formations and creating tight passages. But I’m not quite sure how that would be represented, maybe cancelling size bonuses somehow

[marsh garden]

my idiot son Dusk mostly calls himself 'a corse' and 'unworthy it'

[limpid badge]

then "Smash a statue to make a big shrapnel blast (fucks up battlegroups yay)"

[velvet raft]

Aha

[limpid badge]

the third one is where im going hrmnn

[wise ocean]

count size as 1 less, if resonant penalize rout checks

[marsh garden]

i was chuffed by the fact that "corse" can refer to both dead corpse and living corpus

[limpid badge]

would a dice trick that lets her intimidate when she Just Hits A Battlegroup or lands a Decisive be good?

wait i don't know why i phrased it that way

[marsh garden]

oh! that's easy to steal

[limpid badge]

the thought changed out of my mouth

[marsh garden]

brawl has that one

[limpid badge]

because people go "oh fuck oh fuck im turning to stone"

[marsh garden]

illustrative overkill technique

[velvet raft]

Something like that could draw on sorcery spells that do more to battle groups, maybe?

[limpid badge]

oh maybe?

[velvet raft]

Obsidian Butterflies, that one spell that dehydrates things, Thunder Wolf Howl

[limpid badge]

i was just making it "Str+Melee Medium Range Withering Attack, there must be something you can stunt to smash OR there has to be someone you already statue'd"

[tulip folio]

This charm is why I'm a bit sad dark messiah became Abyssal brawl. It was such fun.

[marsh garden]

unslakeable thirst of the devil-maw

name goes so hard

[velvet raft]

Not certain how much niche protection sorcery should have here but there’s some good anti-BG damage tech in sorcery

[marsh garden]

eh, fuck sorcery's niche protection

its niche is everything

[velvet raft]

Fair

[limpid badge]

idk im feeling things out and then letting it get torn apart this is how we learn

[marsh garden]

ah, love it when i finally decide on a name i'm happy with

names are so hard :(

[spiral cosmos]

real

[spiral cosmos]

So funny story, I checked with the game lead when developing the Sids companion and they confirmed nothing was going to tap Sidereal Firearms later because, hey, Shards, so a few of its coolest effects ended up in a luck themed starmetal firewand thats coming

This was a year or two ago

I think it turned out really funny

[tulip folio]

Harness the power of 'I just shot Marvin in the face' with dead spouse defence. You just randomly shoot a trivial mortal by accident and death goes 'shit, he's got a gun'

[spiral cosmos]

remembering the time a fancord guy asked us if we could please change the name of Dead Spouse Defense because it made him think of his dead wife

[tulip folio]

Ooof

[spiral cosmos]

That kind of just happens, sometimes, where people mistake something bothering them for it being, like, a problem or thing they should ask about changing for them

Like, I felt bad for the guy but also bro!!!!

Just scribble over it in a PDF or rename the Charm at your table or something

[tulip folio]

Yeh, very 'reasonable for him to not like the name, not reasonable for him to want it changed'

[spiral cosmos]

Pretty much. There's no need to be rude to people who do that unless they're really out of pocket first, I think

like he wasn't being a jerk about it, he asked very nicely, it was just kind of like "o_o"

[tulip folio]

Yeah. There's a lot worse feedback that can be gotten.

[spiral cosmos]

every single exalted book gets a title wave of "this sucks change it" paired against a dozen pages of detailed feedback in the crowdfunding response sections of which vanishingly little is very useful

not that there's not also good stuff, im pretty adamant that you gotta be open to correction and criticism, but, some of the feedback can get kind of wild

[tulip folio]

Yeah, I can't imagine how it would be like working with a well established property that has multi-decade fans with Opinions about how things have changed when it comes to feedback. I'm still shocked about the one time I got asked 'Why are your mechs so Jewish?' in a feedback document I got sent (I had a Solomon and a Houdini in a famous magician naming scheme).

[spiral cosmos]

powerful

my go to for that kind of thing as a jew is basically just to joke hey just call me a slur next time, let's be honest

tell me how ya really feel

[tulip folio]

The weirdest part was it was like...just at the end after like 2 full pages of 'vague comment on math, vague gameplay feedback, SUDDENLY THE JEWISH QUESTION'. Just completely caught me off guard as I was 'this is the third of these documents I've read in a row, most of these comments are ones I've already heard HOLY FUCK'.

[prisma sun]

I actually didnt know Houdini was Jewish

[tulip folio]

(I'm not Jewish myself, which had me talking to my Jewish co-writer a lot about my handling of the Solomon to do my best to handle it with some amount of not being a wanker/his thoughts on some names.)

[tulip folio]

Yeah. Born Erik Weisz, son of a Rabbit!

...no autocorrect

Rabbi

Dammit

[spiral cosmos]

rabbi rabbit

[spiral cosmos]

Now you know I'm going to have to get you with the space lasers. I'm sorry. It will be quick

[tulip folio]

I think I should have moved to my computer to do more complex typing there. Fat fingers and autocorrect don't play nice.

[prisma sun]

My ability to parry the sun shall finally come in handy

[tulip folio]

Voy confirmed for Rakan Thulio follower, working on parrying all divine beings.

[prisma sun]

If he showed up and said "I can teach you Royal Guard" damn right I'm joining

[tulip folio]

I know Rakan parrying Saturn is more metaphorical for extending his life than literal but...my mental image of him is still him Literally Parrying Her and running away to make his secret rebellion.

[prisma sun]

Its not metaphorical I think

Saturn literally made her sign at him and he parried it

I kinda wish there was art of how people made the Maiden handsigns

[bleak hazel]

I think my grandfather's space laser requisition is still active until the weekend, which is impressive because he's a bit too dead to aim them

(somehow he picked up on that joke years back, I have no idea how because he was very much not an online person)

[lament owl]

They draw it like on the Disney channel

[spiral cosmos]

I think it's less handsigns than drawing with your fingers

Yes

That is the superior explanation

[prisma sun]

I have always thought that was it

https://tenor.com/view/disney-logo-go-fuck-yourself-gif-11949308

[bleak hazel]

somewhere there's a guy who has painstakingly come up with fancy hand signs for all of them that everyone else refuses to use

[chilly sluice]

I had also always assumed you draw out a little sigil into the air

[bleak hazel]

possibly the same guy who ensures there are fashions in cases for prayer strips when maybe 20-30 people can even use the prayer strip charms

although I suppose they might also be pretty great for horoscopes and prophecies and scribbling superior entreating memorials

[buoyant summit]

How many handsigns do you think it is to use Saturn's ultimate jutsu?

[fierce star]

I want to blame Serenities for this but somehow IF eel like it's Secrets' fault.

[velvet raft]

103

[buoyant summit]

lol

[spiral cosmos]

I dream of Getimian handsigns

[wise ocean]

personally I think of the jutsus a lot like the Volador hand signs

he do be making them

[prisma sun]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-jujutsu-kaisen-domain-expansion-yuta-okkotsu-uro-takako-gif-3386393038442279956

"The Fivefold Fellowship have a spirited political debate"

[spiral cosmos]

gotta love mudras

[bleak hazel]

conveniently all caste colours but possibly not the right ones

my mental image of where the fancy mudras go in Exalted is SMA form charms/capstones

[prisma sun]

I think Uro probably works better as an Endings, true, but I do think generally all of them fit the vibe

[bleak hazel]

Essence-Shattering Typhoon and World-Spanning Weaver Strike have to do some cool handsigns before extending the world's biggest AOEs

[bleak hazel]

I would probably go Battles, Serenities, Endings respectively, slightly stereotypical as that is for poor Ryu

[prisma sun]

See I disagree on Ishigori specifically

Because his entire character is an excessive joy in the pleasure of battle

Which is 100% a valid Serenity

A Battles Sid wouldn't frame a death battle royale as Dessert

I also think Yuta works as an Ending because his entire shtick is focused around acceptance of death, and after that cheating to kill someone as quickly as possible

[bleak hazel]

I think that also works for Battles just fine, but he could be either

you've got Anys, the Battles' Battles, over here with

[bleak hazel]

Endings with Lover's Oath, then

he even has the ring

[prisma sun]

Yeah

Hrmmm

Now interested in mapping the Cursed Spirits to Yozis as 3rd circles

[bleak hazel]

with all due respect to my boy Jogo and his meteor I think most of them are hanging out at 2CD tier

[prisma sun]

Hrmmmm

I feel like Jogo's ability to destroy like

an entire city

is 3rd circle

Octavian could never

[bleak hazel]

yeah he's up there, Mahito is maybe up there on strength of bullshit

[prisma sun]

Mahito "Shaping effect: you die"

Lunar: "Oh thank god"

Kurourushi is definitely Metagaos
Jogo is Qaf

Dagon is Hegra

[bleak hazel]

I can never remember much about what Hegra actually does

[prisma sun]

Actually I forgot about Kimbery

Dagon is Kimbery

[bleak hazel]

oh yeah the big storm of emotions

I always get her mixed up with Elloge

[velvet raft]

Yozis are not beating the “extremely poor coping with trauma” allegations

[light olive]

random impulse to share my OC yozi again
She isnt coping well either.

And she might have been married to Mardukth

[prisma sun]

What are some good abilities for a bastard criminal man

wait I'm a Middle member

Linguistics or Beaurcracy...

https://i.imgur.com/J50Y4K4.png

[bleak hazel]

bastard criminal activities do lie in Larceny

although personally I am a huge Sid Linguistics fan because it has basically all the fun diplomacy buttons in a nice row

(as opposed to the fun mindwhammy buttons that you could use for that if you wanted, which are in Presence/Socialize)

[prisma sun]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_2g1Cg-PeOtQCtgSx_EZquCdCNIU2QLSHt_Spaaujok/edit?usp=sharing

[spiral cosmos]

i love sidereal presence

it's so fun

[velvet raft]

Sid Presence is great

[bleak hazel]

I'm so spoiled by the Sid social trees

I was making a social Abyssal the other day and I was sitting there looking at my sheet and thinking "only one virtual minor intimacy and it's E2? How am I meant to exempt myself from all criticism now?"

I should probably dip Larceny or Sail but throwing money at my problems with bureaucracy will suffice for now

Meanwhile Mr social Sid is showing up with a single tiny cucumber sandwich and reducing all negative ties to himself to nothing before applying the mindwhammy

[velvet raft]

Possibly-final mortalgame session

"On the Blessed Isle, we eat politics for breakfast"

[spiral cosmos]

lots of food there

[velvet raft]

Delicious

[limpid badge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R_4s9TKH0xeGAGsz5yzuS7S_Ek_YBoOly0t4EDIypOQ/edit?usp=sharing okay i think i've actually sketched out my artifact time to go. loot mechanics to make it do the things i want

[velvet raft]

… if I am able to continue mortalgame, I think I’m definitely ending up as either an Abyssal or a battles Sid

Probably an abyssal

Just based on omens and foreshadowing

Abyssal would be a wild place for this character to go

I had not considered it

[wise ocean]

from mortal to kicking enough ass to steal your monstrance back would be a wild arc

[velvet raft]

She absolutely would not be a loyalist, so

[marsh garden]

[velvet raft]

Kung fu deathknight hours does sound fun though

[marsh garden]

these hoes ain't loyal

[velvet raft]

Well, unless she decided she personally liked the deathlord

And even then

[spiral cosmos]

ummah musume

[wise ocean]

god loves an Unconditional Mastery

[velvet raft]

It's true

[prisma sun]

I definitely like it so far, I just think that the Wakefulness mechanic isn't really utilized too much out of the first charm.

I also feel like "First Crown" should be more of a Bankai

I also feel like

You could probably make the difficult terrain thing an earlier charm by having it so that statues can sprout coral spikes or something in an AoE

So that way you can do more with the final charm than have it be difficult terrain

[limpid badge]

oooooooh

that might be best

[prisma sun]

Del have you played Elden Ring Nightreign

[limpid badge]

no

[prisma sun]

do you care for spoilers

[limpid badge]

why would i care about spoilers in a fortnight

[prisma sun]

Spectacle

But I imagine her ult being something like this: https://youtu.be/jcgUkVsX2zE?si=efWa0Jhbvly6qCbE

[prisma sun]

https://youtu.be/w6kVHQYx5uQ?si=DHaJ5IOAf1VzPmAD&t=413

or even this guy

[limpid badge]

hrmmnn

[limpid badge]

i was juuust throwin names together tbh

[prisma sun]

Oh I wasn't saying that due to the name

but just based on the vibes of the weapon

[limpid badge]

aaah, the first "capstone" should be a bankai? hrmnn

[limpid badge]

maybe i just do five charms and let the "First Crown" be a descisive enhancer? something to help wake the sword up a little faster...

oh that might be cute like a desicive enhancer, idk double tens for ease and then Resonant: On this attak, count 9s as well as 10s for the purposes of The Black Blade's Wakefulness

and then put a bunch of charms that require a high wakefulness in E2 and give her a nicer way to scale so she can just keep pressing Charm 1 for good witherings

something that is useful for helping her transition from add clearing to dueling

[limpid badge]

If the sword is at Staring, instead do: Blah maybe on it? i can make it kinda inefficient and that might be fun

[spiral cosmos]

feels a little too under construction still for me to be able to give useful feedback, apologies

[limpid badge]

no that's soooo fair

this is the most under construction phase and i like to babble as a way to organize my thoughts

[spiral cosmos]

that is a time honored design methodology

[limpid badge]

im trying to get a skeleton to figure out what muscles i need

and im playing bloody hand (the weilder) in a pbp game so while i have a very good grasp on her character "what does she need for fighting" is still something im not totally sure about.

thus a difficulty

[spiral cosmos]

It feels worth mentioning that 5 dot artifacts tend to have very large or flashy effects from the start. While Gorgon has tuning issues that can make it feel underwhelming in play, because it takes too long to build up, I generally think locating the direct damage bonuses in the attunement bonus so the Evocations can be big picture is good.

I think Radiance, the 5 dot orichalcum beamklave in Alchemicals, is also a good thing to reference here potentially for power.

[limpid badge]

this is fair, i really like the way wakefulness works and keeping it in-baked might be better in the long run, but i wanted to make more ways to play with and care about how awake the sword is rather than just feeling kind of languishing at lower wakefulnesses and hoping there are enough guys Present to build up to Full

[tulip folio]

I love Radiance. It's got such a fun vibe with the 'Turning my beliefs into direct power'.

[spiral cosmos]

Letting Evocations be gated behind Wakefulness/vary depending on Wakefulness is fine, I think

[limpid badge]

i'll take a peek at Radiance and probably roll wakefulness back into the main traits of the weapon, i can probably come up with enough little gimmick effects to go "Use this and it changes depending on Wakefulness" as a cute little combat trick for the first charm

[wise ocean]

the one 5* I've properly written so far has a fun attunement bonus of when you aim it counts as aiming twice. subtle but very powerful considering aiming accuracy is non-charm

[spiral cosmos]

there is a weird thing with Evocations where the biggest artifacts generally (generally) trend towards having big flashy effects that either target multiple people or reshape the battlefield, and then the 3dots have small nickle and dime combat bonuses, but actually the second type are generally more useful from an optimisation perspective lol

[tulip folio]

20mote, 1 wp nuke that requires you to be at 15+ init gets beaten out by Voltspindle going 'oh yeah, have a passive few points of damage'

Beloved Storm-Heart Capacitor

[wise ocean]

ah yes, permanent +2 withering damage from join battle. nice

[limpid badge]

okay well lets go look at Radiance and. figure out Wakefulness again

[tulip folio]

Brilliant Shining Heart is perhaps one of my favorite charms ever on an artifact.

[wise ocean]

damn. looking at voltspindle properly again, the devs really must love us over in vbos land

[limpid badge]

i neeeed to think about good ways to let the sword wake up that aren't 10s on Damage must exceed Wakefulness+1 bc that's really where the too slow happens

[wise ocean]

first voltspindle, then red revel

[tulip folio]

What's Red Revel have?

[marsh garden]

one trillion ovw

increase enemy wound penalties

bonuses for increasing wound penalties

extra attacks

it's a fucked up weapon

[tulip folio]

Abyssals?

[limpid badge]

yah

[wise ocean]

yep

[marsh garden]

it's basically just because it's swords

for the swords

[marsh garden]

nah, Riders preview 2

[wise ocean]

well, abyssals companion, yeah, to clarify

[marsh garden]

https://theonyxpath.com/riders-from-the-sunless-lands-preview-2/

[limpid badge]

alas i don't think red revel would work as my not-black blade because... well im already doing this shit and i know what i need bloody hand to be doin

[wise ocean]

indeed, cook your shit

[tulip folio]

Radiance is pretty good on the overwhelming front.

[limpid badge]

and that's turning people into horrible statues

[wise ocean]

... huh. graves's art even kind of looks like he has voltspindle. that's funny

he has a different, more freakish artifact

[marsh garden]

but yeah, all the five-dot swords do some heinous shit

[limpid badge]

gorgon just takes to e3 to start doin it

[marsh garden]

and there are about as many five-dot swords as five-dot everything elses

[limpid badge]

this because sword good topple

have you considered this basic fact

[mighty rover]

many people are saying this

[tulip folio]

Imagine being the poor guy who uses a Kama or Kusarigama and is trying to find an artifact. It's just golf back after golf bag of swords. XD

[marsh garden]

i don't really know how to respond to that in a way that isn't party pooper shit, so i'll just leave you with a helpless

[limpid badge]

the cute gif is the correct way to transition out good instinct

[limpid badge]

she's not A Bloody Hand Holds Aloft A Black Sickle of Sorrows

[marsh garden]

sickles have blades

it's important to their function, even

i just wish that literally any of the things i liked were as popular as swords

[tulip folio]

I am staring at radiance and going 'shit, I've been making an artifact sword when in the end what I literally wanted was just Radiance but with an elemental retheme'. XD

[marsh garden]

(except scythes, which absolutely are popular in the chuuni weebshit space, and my enjoyment of scythes is absolutely in chuuni weebshit territory)

i am, however, very excited for prince-eating mendicant and its giant pile of things i like

[limpid badge]

thank uuuuuuu

[fierce star]

if it helps topple my last several exalts have used as weapons, respectively: a fractal pile of floating gears, a knife addicted to killing kings, a spear that exists halfway between life and death, tentacles, and... okay then you get to one who used a sword, but she had a whip in her offhand!

[wise ocean]

I got...

• sword
• hammer
• spear

[limpid badge]

i got

• sword
• SLAVERING HORROR MAW
• drunken fist

[fierce star]

oh right, I never finsihed her but we can add 'the horrid interior of her mind', yeah

[marsh garden]

oh yeah it's more just about like...the consistently increased narrative and mechanical attention that regularly leaves "other things i want to do/watch" more difficult across tabletop systems and media, i don't begrudge people their enjoyment of a popular thing

[prisma sun]

I do also need to revist the Sword of the Inverted Sun at some point

[tulip folio]

Shadow and Starlight Stage Play
Cost: 5m, 1wp ; Mins: Stamina 4, Essence 2
Type: Simple
Keywords: Perilous, Shaping(Fate) 
Duration: One Scene 
With a wink and a flourish, drama becomes farce.

The Wanderer tweaks the tone of a scene, blunting the blows of attackers. All damage dealt during this scene is downgraded to bashing damage and cannot exceed the target's incapacitated box. 

Characters other than the Wanderer may resist this effect either through defences against Shaping or by spending 2 willpower.  A character who does so is unaffected for good and for ill. Their damage is not converted to bashing damage but neither is damage against them

This effect extends even past the end of any fight until the end of the scene. This makes executing downed opponents impossible but does not stop capture for later punishment. 

Reset: Once per scene.

[tulip folio]

I think my GM and I for exalted might have some unhealthy interactions when it comes to making characters. We end up playing 'well, what if I made X' chicken but neither of us is willing to actually call the other person out so character ideas end up shifting and spiralling. XD

[tulip folio]

Draconic Tread
Cost: 3m [+1wp]; Mins: Strength 3, Essence 1
Type: Reflexive
Keywords: None
Duration: Instant
Prerequisite Charms: None
The dragon demands that all dross part in its path and the world obliges. Only the finest of goods are worthy of viewing its passage.

The Wanderer ignores difficult terrain while moving between range bands and can reflexively makes a feat of demolition to destroy an obstacle that stands in the way of her movement.

For a one willpower surcharge, barriers of unusual value that span no more than one range band, such as walls of magical materials, masterfully crafted statues or large piles of gold can be passed through without a roll, swimming through them as easily as a fish does through water, though she may not remain withing them. The ripples left by her passage allow other characters, both enemies and allies, to follow through this barrier until the start of her next turn.

Keys:

Bathing in Molten Gold(Essence 3): The Wanderer can pass through larger obstructions of wealth by using this Charm again on each subsequent turn, waiving its Willpower cost. She benefits from full cover from characters outside of the object while doing so, though appropriate magic or stunts can circumvent this. If she doesn’t use this Charm on her turn, she’s ejected from the barrier at the point she entered it.

[velvet raft]

Gonna be sad if I don’t get to exalt with these attributes ;_;

[mighty rover]

https://bsky.app/profile/tabloidsores.bsky.social/post/3mk2m5yn2ys24

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Everyone's saying the silent style corrupts the body and mind but ever since I started cutting down my foes with it, I've not only felt *great*, I've actually had the clarity to realize the treachery of everyone around me?

Bluesky · Apr 22, 2026, 3:57 AM

[tulip folio]

I'm sorry but your social statline has doomed you to life as a dawn or dusk.

[velvet raft]

We have another PC with the same stats

And a third running a 4/1/1

[tulip folio]

Hahahaha

[marsh garden]

Invincible Sword Princess Pervert time

[tulip folio]

I hope this seems okay? I wanted it to have a bit more spice than a basic 'oh yeah, just smash through a wall' charm.

[bleak hazel]

I think every Invincible Sword Princess is by definition some kind of sword pervert

[marsh garden]

"smash through a wall" is already a non-basic FoS charm i think

i know somebody gets it, but i can't think of who

just infernals maybe?

yeah, this charm

i think it's the only one in the game?

oh wait no sids get a version at e2

...no, nevermind, this is super different

so yeah, comparison point is just the infernal version

no +5 non-charm sux, doesn't have the prereqs, doesn't need a second charm to ignore difficult terrain, doesn't need extra sux to make destruction permanent (but infernals are much more likely to get that in the first place), doesn't have a cooldown, second charm gets a bonus unroll

buying a lot with "no +5 sux"

but

that's a comical number of free hits lol

[tulip folio]

Especially non-charm

[marsh garden]

i'd definitely say it's equivalent in power

since it's not two charms of prereq, or a second charm of purchase to completely ignore difficult terrain

so probably solid place to leave it

[tulip folio]

Fair. Scrooge McDuck Charm: Achieved.

[marsh garden]

it definitely looks like a strong solar-tier Strength suite so far

don't remember many of its direct damage charms

[tulip folio]

It's kinda low there!

Direct damage is not a wanderer strength

Like they're not going to be worthless there. Everyone needs to hit things.

But it's not going to be a real standout part of strength.

But 'has a strength excellency' covers a multitude of sins in terms of 'will that guy get hurt'.

They do get a fair bit of gambit support though. Wanderers are kinda incentivised to bully the other guy by tripping him, knocking his weapon away or distracting him a lot.

They get a disarm support charm that lets them disarm unarmed and natural weapons. The target don't actually lose the weapon but they can't use it until they spend a misc action going 'Oww, oww, my hands' and rubbing their wrists.

And a Ranged Grapple in Charisma with a Hypnotic Gaze like a Cockatrice.

...also: Kinda surprised that 'make a feat of demolition to Oh Yeah through a wall' isn't a more common effect.

[marsh garden]

reflexive feats of strength are not very freely handed out, so it seems

[tulip folio]

Yeah, kinda surprising. Feels like something that would have turned up pretty early.

[marsh garden]

aha

lunars have a drastically worse version

[velvet raft]

…

[prisma sun]

Sids get one in Resistance

[marsh garden]

oh?

[prisma sun]

Something Juggernaut

Its e1

No bonuses but its reflexive

[marsh garden]

ah ic

big bonuses

[bleak hazel]

Unswerving Juggernaut is more of a grab bag

way more expensive if you just want to blow up a wall but does other shit

[marsh garden]

well, it's cheaper for reflexive demo if you're doing more than one

[bleak hazel]

the Infernal one is probably the strongest because you can just run through a solid wall and have it phase back together after you

lets you hide in sealed rooms, get away from people, all sorts of things

[bleak hazel]

1wp is about 5m, so more than two

which is pretty damn rare in my experience

[marsh garden]

"the infernal one is the strongest" is extraordinarily unsurprising, to be fair

[marsh garden]

also i was mostly thinking about the day of wp recovery, but yeah it's pretty restricted if you're trying for that

[tulip folio]

Hmm...So yeah, relative to the Lunar one it's -1 mote, +ignoring difficult terrain -bonus successes in the Basic Mode. So it's gunna end up More Expensive if you need to boost to punch through the wall as you need to buy the dice boosts manually but cheaper if you can Just Do It without help. Hmm...

I really don't like how the Lunar one is only successes, not effective strength.

[marsh garden]

the lunar one is worse than the others, as is tradition

many much jank

[fierce star]

the progress of time comes for us all

[prisma sun]

Yknow

I didnt read world shaping charge

I just thought it broke shit

[bleak hazel]

got that infernal Anything We Can Do We Can Do Better juice

they do lack a few of the buttons other splats have but basically everything they do get is wild

Craft for one lacks any effect to make stuff with worse tools, so while you have cool demontech you also need a cool demon forge

[velvet raft]

Looks like I should get at least one more mortalgame session

[tulip folio]

btw, how does this seem? It's both a very big and a very minor effect at the same time as the story-wise effects are hefty but the mechanical effects are 'But you still take the damage!'

[prisma sun]

I do still feel like every Infernal charm is a Lunar charm but juiced

[marsh garden]

including devil-body!

it's lunar shapeshifting but cranked to infinity

at least thematically and in a couple mechanical ways

(literally, even, with the Infinity Guile option)

[velvet raft]

It's kind of fun that nothing stops you from using any martial art while mounted

[limpid badge]

oh cuuuute

[tulip folio]

I'm glad you like it.

[limpid badge]

its delightful. im glad wanderers can go everbody was kung-fu fighting

[spiral cosmos]

martial arts charms for everyone 🙏

[marsh garden]

coming in to ask for a couple vibe checks: for a (mechanically) transforming artifact, would y'all lean towards saying "this item used black jade/moonsilver to help the moving parts function" or just declare that a blacksmith good enough for artifice is going to be able to make whatever fiddly mechanisms they need regardless of the material?

[tulip folio]

I think if it's autocthonian I'd say 'any material is fine'. For non-autocthonian stuff I'd lean on 'there's a material that's helping here'

[marsh garden]

that was my instinct as well, autobot, first age, or "uses moonsilver/black jade"

thanks

decided to start on a green jade scissor-sword that can split the scissor blades into a pair, and that's fiddly enough that it'd need complex mechanisms on something that isn't just Doin' It Sideways with moonsilver

and second, unrelated: i'm kind of see-sawing back and forth on an evo name

i think i've settled on This Paper World for the FoS evo that you might remember from yesterday, but i'm torn on whether to add an imperative verb at the start

[prisma sun]

I would say that you should still try to explain the magic of the mechanism instead of just saying "it works"

[spiral cosmos]

is this like the bitch from kill la kill

[prisma sun]

It does kinda sound like the bitch from Kill La Kill

or the Barber from Limbus Company

[marsh garden]

oh, it's more Salt and Sanctuary aesthetically

love that game's greatscissors

[prisma sun]

I never played

[marsh garden]

but yeah i def plan to, it was just a question of what feels more justified

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PJiBcNzuBU

very silly weapon

[spiral cosmos]

do what you feel

greatsword while they're together, dual short daiklaves while apart...

[marsh garden]

that was the plan, yeah

with some meaty scissor executions

[spiral cosmos]

snip snip

[spiral cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-la-kill-laugh-rain-umbrella-nui-harime-gif-4910713

i kind of still love her

[marsh garden]

nui's my favorite

[spiral cosmos]

i liked nonon's band geek thing

[marsh garden]

kill la kill did irreparable damage to my psyche in general tbh

[spiral cosmos]

very brave of you to immediately out yourself as 13-19 in 2013

[marsh garden]

that shit went in the formative experience hole

lol

[spiral cosmos]

how it do

[marsh garden]

yeah born in the big y2k

[merry arch]

my queen. I love her so much. I've had the idea rattling around in my head to make an infernal modeled after Nui for quite some time but my mind has been elsewhere

[spiral cosmos]

my girlfriend was born in 2002 and one time she sent me a tiktok where it's like, oh what year were you born

girl says 19-
jurassic park music 'i love my dinosaur'

[marsh garden]

lmao

[spiral cosmos]

she killed me 😭

[prisma sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_PWdjym25g

this shit still slaps

nothing better than the lyric flat out saying "I gotta find out who killed my dad"

[marsh garden]

sawano is just a fantastic composer

i loved his work on 86

[merry arch]

love kill la kill. gotta watch that shit again

[marsh garden]

and shoutouts to the singer, whose name i don't know but who i imagine is a close friend of his?

or partner?

i just kind of take for granted that if a sawano piece exists it's gonna have her

[spiral cosmos]

mika kobayashi

[prisma sun]

To make sure we still on topic

[tulip folio]

It's very funny that the Centaur Mutation makes you one of the the slowest, dumpiest mounts in the game. A normal horse is Speed +4, a Camel is +3, Centaur is +2. The only thing you're faster than is a...Yeddim. XD

[prisma sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TEgBHyqY4

Thunderbolt Fantasy is the Most Exalted show

[marsh garden]

thank you!

i will try to memorize that

[spiral cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-true-conquest-conquest-true-conquest-gif-18084577569699045071

[spiral cosmos]

just take infernal ride instead

unethical ponyplay

[prisma sun]

As opposed to Sidereal ride which is ethical ponyplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1muOeJ4fBps

Two Sidereals try to save an N/A Daiklave from an Abyssal Dawn

[marsh garden]

i think sidereal ride is noncon ponyplay

ethical ponyplay is just deeb ride

the only one where you're not a huge freak

[spiral cosmos]

infernal ponyplay is like. the least ethical possible

it's basically just the best

[tulip folio]

I'm pondering this for a Sid and keep going 'okay, that was a lot of dots for being slower than Owning A Horse'. XD

[prisma sun]

My favorite bit of Thunderbolt Fantasy is how much the best swordsmen just don't actually hold their swords

and just telekinetically attack you with swords

[marsh garden]

Mortal-Abasing Mount is very fucking silly

[marsh garden]

that's just xianxia in general tbh

they eat that shit up

and in fairness

it's pretty damn cool

[spiral cosmos]

Thousand Blades supreme

[prisma sun]

Bones of Creation is also a valid Abyssal name

I feel like

[spiral cosmos]

title!

[prisma sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkkyFNNaNH0

Most Exalted ass scene in the world

[fierce star]

I'm considering like, a four dot mutation that strips out 'can be mounted' with 'get the benefits of being mounted and treat yoruself as having +3 speed'. It's honestly worse in most cases than just like, a three dot familiar, but

[marsh garden]

i want that with serpentine...

i love sneeple

[spiral cosmos]

snerson

[prisma sun]

I need to make a rabbit person

[marsh garden]

there are many excellent forms of snerson in this world

apodal reptilian bodies just kind of rule

[chilly sluice]

snake tails are great (not biased)

[marsh garden]

i love regular snakes too

[spiral cosmos]

your avatar is a gamecube fremblem isn't it topple

[marsh garden]

wii technically lmao

[spiral cosmos]

I recognize her now

Shhhh

[marsh garden]

radiant dawn, the wii one, as opposed to path of radiance the gc one

but tellius is my beloved

forever and always

[spiral cosmos]

Radiant Dawn was my first fremblem

[marsh garden]

i think my first was sacred stones

and then radiant dawn, at which point i was a lil bit confused about all the PoR characters i had no context for

so i played that one

and then my dad found me a janky fan-TL genealogy of the holy war rom

and i learned the face of true suffering

the even hands of rapture and despair

[spiral cosmos]

powerful

[marsh garden]

and now i'm super normal about nailah and volug forever

[spiral cosmos]

after rd then it was shadow dragon and awakening then 3h for me

iirc

[prisma sun]

Borb what's your favorite Yozi

[marsh garden]

i have (unfortunately, one might say), played every fire emblem

i love most of them and have very strong negative opinions on Fates and Heroes lol

but right yes sorry that's not exalted lmao

[spiral cosmos]

maybe Adorjan

[marsh garden]

my favorite is sachaverell for sure

everything i could ever want

[fierce star]

with the fluff updates in infernals I really gotta go with Cytherea.

[spiral cosmos]

Games of Divinity is always going to be my north star for Exalted so I look back to it a lot

[tulip folio]

I could see stripping out the 'extra limbs' part as that part is kinda just awkward and going like:

Equine (••+)
The mutant has a horselike lower body or similar anatomy. She always enjoys the attack and Defense bonuses for fighting mounted, has +2 Speed and can make impaling attacks with lances (Exalted, p. 203). 

For additional dots, she may gain the following:
Centaur (• or ••) She may be ridden by another character per dot spent on Centaur, providing the benefits of a mount. She can be ridden by five times this number if she also has Legendary Size.
Fast (• to •••) Increase her Speed by the number of dots spent on Fast.

Still expensive to get real zoomy and the base effects can be replicated with 'owns a horse' but doesn't require the very expensive extra limbs first.

[fierce star]

yeah, I could see that

[marsh garden]

mmm, i think two dots for the main benefit is too cheap

[fierce star]

I mean 'owns a horse' is two dots.

[tulip folio]

A horse is 2 dots a familiar. It's less as a resources purchase if you don't care about a psychic link to your mount.

[marsh garden]

hmm

that's fucked, time to make every character i ever play a cavalier

horse emblem reigns supreme again

[tulip folio]

Being On A Horse is a very powerful tool in exalted. XD

[marsh garden]

it's a very powerful tool in general!

[fierce star]

but waht if instead of being on a horse

you could be every horse

[marsh garden]

unforchies my idiot son is very not horse

[fierce star]

I know what my next infernal or lunar is

[marsh garden]

he runs at people and cries a lot while eating them

and my other idiot showboating son has stopped riding his giant hawk after he got Anor Londo'd off of it and almost died

but the next one!

[wise ocean]

I should probably make Horse Abyssal but I can't think of any Lance MAs off the top of my head

[marsh garden]

none

it's just abyssal melee

or spear MAs

[wise ocean]

fuck

and spear MAs are just albicant, WR, and GJ

[spiral cosmos]

rediscovered

[marsh garden]

this is why the wyvern-riding abyssal that i have planned is going to be using a gun

[spiral cosmos]

literally first thing in the morning after I awoke

[marsh garden]

(also albicant is not spears, unforchies)

(staves and scythes)

[wise ocean]

actually come to think of it

GJ ride abyssal
is incredibly funny

death's chivalry (actually jousting and killing and beating to death other abyssals)

though it requires realigning the concept from Nazgul to Flesh-Eater Courts a little

[marsh garden]

god

i imagine a full Umbral ride suite would look real wacky

[spiral cosmos]

nanami cow episode every day

[tulip folio]

...I'm kinda tempted to make a Cavalry Saber artifact that's attunement bonus is 'This weapon can make impale attacks'

[coral wraith]

silver voiced nightingale.mp4

[prisma sun]

Do you need an artifact for that?

[marsh garden]

yeah

[prisma sun]

That feels like exceptional weapon thing

[marsh garden]

...exceptional weapon? i'm not familiar with that rule

i didn't think there was an exceptional equipment equivalent for weapons

[spiral cosmos]

there isnt

[quiet garnet]

Numbers are a little less concrete in 3E.

[coral wraith]

not in this case, core outright states 9 out of 10

[prisma sun]

that was 3 days ago wha

[tulip folio]

They don't have rules. They just have:

The finest armorers create weapons and suits of armor superior to anything lesser craftsmen can make. Exceptional armor and weapons provide no bonuses, but are exquisitely made, often elaborately decorated or sufficiently durable they require only minimal care.

[marsh garden]

that's about what i remembered, yeah

no bonuses, just j u i c y

[tulip folio]

So you can get Exceptional Equipment Weapons and Armour, they just provide zero mechanical effect

[marsh garden]

makes sense, having +1 To Sword has never been fun

[tulip folio]

Medium Melee

Cavalry Sabre
Leaner than other chopping swords, cavalry sabres are designed for easy use on horseback, smoothly turning momentum into devastating slashes as they pass by their target.

Cost: •••
Tags: Lethal, Chopping, Melee, Special
Special Cavalry Sabres can make Impaling attacks. They are considered Chopping Swords for the purpose of Martial Arts.

I remembered the Auzhian and that you can just Have Weapons With More Tags Than Others (Though I gave this +1 cost as a bit of a trivial 'why do people still use normal chopping swords them')

[marsh garden]

yeah i don't like that this is Just Better than an already good weapon

[tulip folio]

You're not wrong, though the Auzhian is already 'Chopping Sword But It Also Has Disarming'.

[marsh garden]

yeah, but disarming is so much less powerful than the impact of an impale

which is

+5 withering/+3 decisive damage

yeah it's after a lot of setup, but

i would rather it be the artifact bonus

maybe with another ribbon

[wise ocean]

[extremely unhealthy voice] even blade vbos?

[fierce star]

the problem is exalted has a lot of weapons that are just another weapon that's better. Like, MAs aside, right?

an axe is a better chopping sword.

for cheaper!

[quiet garnet]

I’m just now seeing it.
I’ve uhh had a helluva week, my father more so.

[fierce star]

slashing and straight swords are exactly the same

greataxe and poleaxe are exactly teh same

[limpid badge]

devil-prince time.....

[fierce star]

fighting umbrellas are just better shields

(having to go out of core now)

[marsh garden]

mm, fair

[tulip folio]

Fighting Umbrellas even get better martial arts access. XD

[fierce star]

like there's really no reason to use a shield when fighting umbrellas exist--and umbrellas have better MA compatibility too!

[tulip folio]

In that they get any

[marsh garden]

also

it's so fucked

that scythes have chopping

but artifact scythes have piercing instead

i thought this was a quiet post-core retcon to the scythe statblock

but no.

[fierce star]

the bones of the core are too sick for necromancy

[fierce star]

the state of ex3 core is actually a statement about autochthon's existance and the Blight he suffers, in this essay

[tulip folio]

As an aside: I think Chopping, Piercing and Smashing are my favorite keywords as they're very 'do a thing' keywords, while Balanced is a very good keyword but a very boring one. Smashing is overpowered as fuck but it's at least interesting. XD

[marsh garden]

balanced is just the aforementioned +1 to sword

[tulip folio]

I know I invented a keyword for some homebrew I did.

[prisma sun]

Iron Boots should to be able to do impaling attacks

[marsh garden]

LOL

[tulip folio]

New Tag: Concussive
This weapon gains +2 Damage and +1 Overwhelming against Battle Groups and targets of Legendary Size.

It was for stuff like Grenades and 'Sweeps across an area' flamethrowers.

[marsh garden]

FUCK

[tulip folio]

Not full multi-attack but big stuff get roasted more

[marsh garden]

WHERE DID MY BOWSER FSMASH GIF GO

[prisma sun]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AYZIxnAwUag?si=TfbVN149xAJar9qG

awful audio

but I can't find any good clips of this

[marsh garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/608339338354491432/1174544896913317978/ek31azr07or91.gif

aha

iron boots impale attack

[tulip folio]

...this is reminding me that I totally wanted to do a Smashing + Feat of Destruction combo charm.

Where if you slam someone back into an object, you get a free feat of destruction against that object.

[marsh garden]

that's solar brawl yeah

abyssals also have it, but infernals' version is slightly modified

i appreciate that the abyssal version also lets you threaten people with the corpse you just exploded into a wall

but infernals throwing people into the sun is also extraordinarily funny

[limpid badge]

Black Tide Swallows Hope
Cost: 8m, Mins: Essence 1 
Type: Simple
Keywords: Decisive-Only, Perilous
Duration: Instant
Prereq: None

The Black Blade's hunger reaches past blood and souls; it devours the world around the wielder, and its leftovers create more meat to feed the insaitable horror.

The Black Blade's wielder makes a feat of demolition using (Strength + Melee), with (Wakefulness) automatic successes, against an object within reach. If she succeeds, she treats the roll as a *decisive* attack against all characters, including allies, in a ninety-degree arc out to medium range. If the feat required Strength 5+, battle groups treat this attack as unblockable, and other characters suffer -2 Defense.

The attack has a base damage of (Wakefulness) against all characters hit, dividing (Initiative) as additional damage evenly among each target; against battle groups, it adds 1/2 Strength to its base damage. After this attack resolves, the rubble of the destroyed object creates difficult terrain across its area.

Resonant: If the wielder targets a statue created by the Black Blade, she can pay a 4 mote, 1 Willpower surcharge to make this attack reflexively, utterly consuming the statue's trapped soul in a frenzy of hunger.```
@coral wraith helped me….

[marsh garden]

i think this is def too much for something that'd be a published artifact, but i adore it for its own use

[limpid badge]

I’m probably gonna just make it the capstone for her E1 trick cause it’s both good for farming Wakefulness and cashing it out

[marsh garden]

yeah, makes sense

if you want to make a version for wider use, this would be a sick e3 mid-tree evo

and i'd love to see the rest, it seems super cool

[limpid badge]

The rest needs workkkkk

[marsh garden]

i understand

so much work

[limpid badge]

The flavor i can do easy

[marsh garden]

flavor's easy for me, but wording on flavor is like a flashback to goat-herding in Twilight Princess, except i'm also screaming into my own ears

[limpid badge]

Exalted is reflexive to me at a point, fluff wise

[tulip folio]

I keep rereading my fluff and going 'oh god, I used the same descriptor words in like 3 different charms'

[limpid badge]

But mechanics….

[marsh garden]

yeah i caught that shit like 15 times just now when i was doing proofreading

for my own stuff

and just groaned

[coral wraith]

For just an aoe decisive? I mostly patterned this off death of obsidian butterflies

[marsh garden]

ah, yeah

aoe decisive charms are usually e3 minimum, and basically none of the splat charms also come with base damage

there are a couple e2s that are just as nasty, though

infernals have this one off of a grapple toss at e3

abyssals have this motherfucker at e2

which i think is a nerfed version of the solar one lol

[tulip folio]

Also: Feat of demolition into decisive if a very big dice pool.

As feat of strength/demolition bonuses go through the roof

[marsh garden]

yeah

[coral wraith]

Can't use em on this since it's Melee

Not Ath

[marsh garden]

nah, that's part of the substitute rules iirc

[wise ocean]

doob is awkward because evos/regular charms don't require several turns of charge-up and can't be counterspelled

they just Happen

[marsh garden]

and also the charm penalizes def

[coral wraith]

A good sorcerer can just one round the majority of Terrestrial spells

[marsh garden]

i don't think it's an issue for a home game

as this one is

but it's def on the better side of "e3 aoe decisive"

[coral wraith]

Fair enough though

[wise ocean]

not at E1, thus the comparison

[coral wraith]

If you take a good shaping ritual, you can

[marsh garden]

oh yeah, alchs have another real good e2 one

not nearly as much burst as the solaroids

but great control

enemies-only

(oh also the other thing is that lilah's costs no WP unlike the others)

[coral wraith]

Full excellency a "X + Occult, bank motes equal to successes until used again or end of story" nets you around 11 successes on average with just a level 1 stunt

[marsh garden]

that's with a full excellency

that you didn't spend on the attack roll

[coral wraith]

Topple

[marsh garden]

one of the reasons sids are zooted sorcs

[coral wraith]

I am not talking about that

[bleak hazel]

Yeah, but you do that long before you get to the fight, so it's irrelevant

[coral wraith]

I'm talking about the shaping ritual

Yeah

[marsh garden]

ohhh, on the ritual part

my b my b

[coral wraith]

All good

[bleak hazel]

That AoE would be a pretty damn good E3 charm, I don't think it works at essence 1 no wp cost

[coral wraith]

That said yeah E2 and a WP is probably fine

There's better charms at E2 like the abyssal archery one

That's insane

[marsh garden]

nah, i think it works just fine as-is for a home game since it's like, the equivalent of your supernal

[bleak hazel]

The archery one has a lot less riders attached

Difficult terrain plus fuck battlegroups plus a big discount on the attack roll plus resonance

plus effective surprise attack

[wise ocean]

also MA compatibility because it's an evocation

not that BH does, buto

[limpid badge]

if it helps the sword is what we're giving bh instead of an MA

part of it is also. boy. the weapon sure is about descisive attacks

[bleak hazel]

I think when you have Abyssal Melee going "oh I'm not a martial artist" is kind of by the by

but this is just straight up an E3 charm because it does so many things

[limpid badge]

nod nod nod

it might be well to strip out the dangerous terrain and save that for later

but the basic idea that briar was tryin to help me out with was i want bloody hand to shatter a statue and make a shrapnel-blast

[coral wraith]

Yeah I just tried to stick to the description

Sorry

[limpid badge]

Tuning down from where we're at is definitely on the table as long as we keep on "Hit some terrain to get a ranged attack, benny if she pops a corpse-statue"

part of the reason i think briar went for desisive is that so much of Gorgon (our starting point) cares mechanically about Desicive hits as the Way It Has To Scale Its Gimmick

[marsh garden]

yeah, the big meaty Kill You Instantly Machine artifact 5s are all super cool

[bleak hazel]

It's not like it being a decisive is a problem at all, that's pretty normal, it's the huge list of extra upgrades it gets when "do an AOE attack" is already E2 charmtech with WP costs

[marsh garden]

gorgon, hateflayer, red revel...

hey wait these are all abyssal artifacts

[wise ocean]

mmm red revel

[limpid badge]

this is troublesome but we can get it back down i think

[wise ocean]

delicious. more of red revel

[limpid badge]

also here's the current Way The Gimmick Unfolds
The sword’s heavy eye only opens to the taste of blood- shedding its scablike sheath upon the promise of more souls for its feast. Many of its evocations are gated behind a wakefulness rating. When the Black Blade inflicts decisive damage or deals Magnitude damage to a battle group, 9s and 10s that exceed the current Wakefulness rating raise the Wakefulness a step. Add the current Wakefulness of The Black Blade as automatic success on Withering attacks. The wielder of the Black Blade may spend a Willpower as a reflexive action or as part of a Join Battle if the Black Blade’s eye is Closed to rouse it from slumber and raising its Wakefulness to Slitted. If the wielder is resonant with the Black Blade, the first time in a combat scene they would flare to Iconic Anima, the Blade’s Wakefulness raises one step.

so assuming bh is working her ass off and getting No Desicive swings she can get to at least Half-Open if she's Spending Large

[bleak hazel]

Is that meant to be autosux on damage or do you get like a Ligier-level Excellency discount once the sword is awake

[limpid badge]

On Withering Damage yeah

damage, that is, sorry

[coral wraith]

Black Tide Swallows Hope
Cost: 8m, 1wp Mins: Essence 2 
Type: Simple
Keywords: Decisive-Only, Perilous
Duration: Instant
Prereq: (something)

The Black Blade's hunger reaches past blood and souls; it devours the world around the wielder, and its leftovers create more meat to feed the insatiable horror.

The Black Blade's wielder makes a feat of demolition using (Strength + Melee), with (Wakefulness) automatic successes, against an object within reach. She can't apply Athletics charms to the roll, but can use Melee charms as if it were an attack. If she succeeds, the feat completes instantly and she treats the roll as a *decisive* attack against all characters, including allies, in a ninety-degree arc out to medium range, spraying lethal shrapnel across the area. If the feat required Strength 5+, battle groups treat this attack as unblockable.

The attack has a base damage of (Wakefulness) against all characters hit, dividing (Initiative) as additional damage evenly among each target; against battle groups, it adds 1/2 Strength to its base damage.

Resonant: If the wielder targets a statue created by the Black Blade, she can pay a 4 mote, 1 Willpower surcharge to make this attack reflexively, utterly consuming the statue's trapped soul in a frenzy of hunger.```

is that a little better?

[limpid badge]

this is about what i was editing towards hehe

playing with toys is fun <in a lot of pain

[wise ocean]

yeah that works

no athletics charms brings down the ceiling a lot

[limpid badge]

12m 2wp is a lot of fuckin Juice but its cool and funny and what cult is for anyway

[coral wraith]

yeah i assumed you couldnt use em by default with different stats but. exalted is a beast

[bleak hazel]

Much cleaner

[marsh garden]

that's actually a specific carve-out for things like this

[bleak hazel]

Under normal circumstances I'd now have to go find every non-Athletics FOD booster in the game and see if I could cheese this but bloody hand will not be doing that so whatever

[coral wraith]

[marsh garden]

where if you make like, an athletics roll to swim with ([att] + Sail), because it's substituting for your [Athletics] you can still use ath charms

[limpid badge]

no. she will be smashing corpses into shrapnel.

[coral wraith]

Oohh I see

[marsh garden]

as opposed to something like Unweaving Method, where it's just a bespoke whatever + occult roll

[limpid badge]

and also probably having another babybrat tantrum when she thinks no one is looking.

[marsh garden]

it's an attack roll, but "attack roll" doesn't have a baseline att + abi connected to it, since it's all of the attack stats

[limpid badge]

everyone loves it when your dusk loses her temper and kicks a corpse, ignoring the Gang Of Assassins who work for the guy she just killed.

[marsh garden]

so fucking true oomfie

[coral wraith]

i sure do

i also love that her resolve is quite low

[marsh garden]

if your dusk doesn't start screaming and eating someone, was it really a breakdown?

[limpid badge]

"Idiot! Stupid! Living-man! Give it back! You fucking! Fool! Unblessed! You didn't hear them at all!"

The once-man's hands shatter, and she pulls the blade into her arms. How its awful eye stares at the gathered assassins, filled with an inimical loathing for each and every one. ```

[dense verge]

this game has also been me figuring out how exalted's mechanics work as i go along, such as calibrating how threatening exactly a gang of some dudes is

[marsh garden]

it depends on the dudes

my first combat was against two size 3 bgs of hungry ghosts 💜

[limpid badge]

bloody hand is really good at killing Dudes

[marsh garden]

i got my shit rocked

[coral wraith]

the answer is "when basically none of them get to act before the exalted, not really"

[marsh garden]

i got my shit rocked so bad

[dense verge]

"surely, they'll get at least one turn and not immediately die"

[coral wraith]

the first lesson of exalted combat is you are gonna slam those motes into your JB roll and you will like it

[dense verge]

exalted is the "win combat in one turn" factory im realizing

[bleak hazel]

My first 3e fight was against a grelidaka and a bunch of other fae

[limpid badge]

Cost: 4m Mins: Ess 1
Type: Supplemental?
Keywords: Withering Only
Duration: Instant
Prereq: None
When you make a Withering attack with The Black Blade apply an effect based on Wakefulness.
Closed, Slitted: Attack becomes Smashing as the exalt crashes the stone-scab sheath of the black blade against their foe, she does not pay the Defense nor Initiative cost for doing so.
Half-Open, Wide-Open: do a fucking debuff. I don’t know which one.
Staring: samsies

Resonant: When this charm is used, apply (Wakefulness) to OVW?

Reminder of Dread
Cost: 3m Mins: Ess 1
Type: Supplemental??
Keywords: Withering-Only?
Duration: Instant
Prereqs: The Hunger of Sorrows
Reciting oaths of Chivalry as she strikes the wielder of the Black Blade enhances their Withering attack with dread that saps at the vitality of those she strikes- her foe loses additional Initiative equal to the current Wakefulness of the Black Blade, though the wielder does not gain the lost Initiative. This can only be used if the Black Blade is at Slitted or higher Wakefulness.

here is where we are for the kit rn but uh. i sure should figure out at least two more pieces of E1 tech

[bleak hazel]

None of us had AOE

[marsh garden]

lmfao

ehh, four e1 charms isn't super necessary

[coral wraith]

[marsh garden]

unless you really want to go all-in

[bleak hazel]

It did not go so hot until the ST let the full moon pick up a tree and hit them with that

[marsh garden]

heh

[coral wraith]

sick.

[limpid badge]

the sword is in her name

[marsh garden]

reasonable!

[limpid badge]

the sword is what gave her the exaltation

we're goin all in on the sword.

[marsh garden]

oh by the way misc

you know what words look like

could you see if this evo passes the literacy check?

i know exactly what i want it to do but i'm not confident that it's intelligible to people who aren't me

This Paper World
Cost: —(+1wp); Mins: Essence 1
Type: Permanent
Keywords: Resonant
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisites: One of em
Flavor text is irrelevant rn.
The wearer adds (Essence/2, rounded up) dice on feats of strength and Strength-based opposed rolls made with Oizys. When she makes a feat of demolition against a structure, terrain, or other large object, she can pay a one-Willpower surcharge to complete it instantly, watching stone and steel crumble around her annihilating touch. This doesn't prevent her from being noticed as the source of the destruction.

Resonant: The Hand adds an additional die on her rolls.

Special Activation Rules: The Hand's dots in the Mighty Thew Merit convert dice from this Evocation to non-Charm successes instead of their usual benefit. She can only convert up to this Evocation's maximum. Excess dots of Mighty Thew instead retain their usual benefit.

[bleak hazel]

Second one is a black blade flavoured Searing Edge Attack so nothing wrong with that assuming you have to land the hit first. First one is obviously pretty heavily dependent on what the other stuff does but I'm not sure you need four big withering damage boosters

[marsh garden]

balance passes would also be appreciated, but my current concern is just the legibility of the Special Activation

[limpid badge]

part of it is i do want the different levels of the sword to like, matter and change a little bit about how she Does Stuff

this might be a bit much, but if the sword has four distinct levels and i have to spend a lot of time dwelling around specific ones, i'd like them to Matter

[bleak hazel]

You've already got 5 for artifact sword, up to 5 from abyssal melee, (woke) autosux from the attunement bonus and then searing edge attack for (woke) init deletion, I genuinely don't think you need any more boosts to that in resonant effects

Not in the sense that they're overtuned, just in the sense that you're not going to use half of them

[limpid badge]

fair

we are in the Noodlin Phase

[marsh garden]

also i keep fyUCking forgetting that they're called feats of demolition

and not feats of destruction

i read "feats of destruction" one (1) whole fucking time in Core and it was joever for me

[limpid badge]

i can also probably just condense it to "Closed, Slitted: Sleepy Sword Effect" and then "Half Open+: Awake Sword Effect"

its part of the phase-change fantasy, if that makes sense

[bleak hazel]

Reads perfectly cleanly to me

[marsh garden]

there was a bit of a miscommunication on the fancord last night when i first posted it, so i adjusted the wording a bit to try and make it cleaner

[bleak hazel]

I admit I have no idea how to price wrecking shit effects because I basically never look at those charms on any splat

[marsh garden]

lmao

[limpid badge]

my thought right now is hey she touched you, you hear some Whispers

[bleak hazel]

I checked that Jumping Spider Strike could cap out the FOD table and went "cool, I'm done"

"don't need any more strongth stuff than that"

[limpid badge]

as the Awake Sword Effect

[marsh garden]

i got the okay for a balance pass from some other folks, so i wasn't super sweating it

but wording is a motherfuck

...do you think there's a point at which a five-dot could justifiably steal an amount of TPA?

like whole hog

because i feel like e3-4 is a point where you could, but i have never claimed to be smart

[bleak hazel]

It's not what I'd jump to because it's more or less the definition of "here's a nice useful dice trick that you use to become really efficient" and evos tend to be more about specific themed flashy stuff

on top of the usual stealing-core-gimmicks-is-mean thing

[marsh garden]

stealing core gimmicks is extremely mean, yeah, but that's the only part of it i'm super concern about

[bleak hazel]

but it's not like you can't fit it in the power budget

[limpid badge]

"hear some whispers" is my excuse to come up with a debuff to hit somebody with yaknow

you touch the blade, and the bottomless screaming hatred and hunger rush into you for a moment

[marsh garden]

i was thinking of it for a: These Fucking Hands, because i want to emphasize their physical absurdity, and just a blossoming TPA STR is a big way to do that

and b: on app or maybe CHA as part of the subtree on the starmetal sorcerous relic i'm working on

where you slowly become a living constellation

[marsh garden]

Whispers my beloved 💜

[coral wraith]

i workshopped this clownshoes stuff

The Hunger of Sorrows
Cost: 3m Mins: Essence 1
Type: Supplemental
Keywords: Withering Only
Duration: Instant
Prereq: None

Like the Neverborn it was spawned from, the Black Blade is a dire paradox; its hunger only grows the more it is fed.

When you make a Withering attack with The Black Blade apply an effect based on Wakefulness.

Closed, Slitted: Attack becomes Smashing as the exalt crashes the stone-scab sheath of the black blade against their foe, she does not pay the Defense or Initiative cost for doing so.

Half-Open or Above: The blade drools tar-like soul ichor from its edge, anticipating a grand feast. After the wielder successfully makes a Withering attack against a character, she can pay a 1wp surcharge to reflexively make a *decisive* attack against the same target. This attack deals (Wakefulness+Essence) die of damage, and does not include or reset the wielder's initiative. If any successes are rolled, no damage is dealt; instead, the target gains the wielder's level of Whispers, which count as a poison [Damage [Whispers 1/2]m, Duration (Successes) rounds, Penalty (Whispers)]. Affected targets must roll (Wits + Integrity) to resist.```

this liiiiiikely needs refinement but its Funny

[marsh garden]

hmm

i think you could probably just

directly lift Soul-Warping Whispers