Having like one or two scary shooting corridors to show off railguns and forgefiend triple plasmas and dorn blasting is great IMO.
#Warhammer and Such
rocky shale
Gotta decide on a Aeldari detachment for a local league. I've already done aspect host so I'm split between seer council (have pretty much all I need), windrider host (have just enough bikes I think), and spirit conclave (need a few more wraiths)
Seers is clearly the best one competetively but there is an allure to 30+ shiruken cannons in a list
sour sequoia
How many bikes do you got
The bikes detach is actually crazy but its kinda a specialist army so you really gotta decide if you wanna learn it imo
It’ll probably be a few games of beating your head against the wall
hallow star
A image that appeared in my youtube
beyond the implication, I find it funny it is especifically germans
not the ww2 stuff
just, germans, in general
thin ibex
I kinda wanna do an ulthwe guardian spam list
charred bridge
just, germans, in general
inb4 a writer randomly lore drops Germany still is around but on a planet and never really fell apart as a a throwaway line
hallow star
inb4 a writer randomly lore drops Germany still is around but on a planet and ne...
isnt that technically the kriegsman planet?
charred bridge
Does the krieg actually descend from Germans
hallow star
doubt it, but since they are kinda inspired by WW 1 german uniforms among others
desert jay
They've got a bunch of different WW1 inspirations but mostly French
Eg.
The helmet is the German bit
charred bridge
I mean moreso sayinig the actual modern country of Germany
Like, Germans left terra at some point and just vibiing in 40k somewhere on a planet but hasnt been discovered or just called something else
It was also a joke and im not saying any modern countries survived to 40k
desert jay
Hahaha that is a pretty funny idea
hallow star
catachan being canonically australian people
desert jay
Though my followup question of "which era Germans" instantly made me remember that one Star Trek episode
charred bridge
Hahaha that is a pretty funny idea
The Genestealers found the English planet and the hive mind just ignored the genestealers upon investigating
desert jay
(TOS s2e21, Patterns of Force, the one where they find a Nazi planet)
charred bridge
How does that happen
Is it like, nazi-like government or they're like somehow holdouts from WWII nazis
rocky shale
How many bikes do you got
I have 18 windriders and like 9 shrouds I believe
I'd need to kitbash some warlocks on bikes
jaunty dawn
Theres an episode of stargate where earth is collabing with this new society theyve found and then they slowly (but not too late) realise theyre nazis
Not literal nazis just like alt earth fascists
desert jay
Is it like, nazi-like government or they're like somehow holdouts from WWII nazi...
TLDR is a rogue history professor from Starfleet Academy got it in his head that fascism would be a good government structure for a colony planet, and then is shocked when their glorious leader pivots harder into being a fascist
jaunty dawn
Okay I just read the patterns of force synopsis and holy shit what
charred bridge
Idk why but I find far future scifi descended from actual modern countries funny. Ah yes Asia united into one faction, asia famously known for being a region that just worked together with no issues or bad blood becomes unified in less in a century and still is pretty similar cultures to today despite centuries passed.
jaunty dawn
Cause its not even that the dude like caesar’s legioned a nazi society on a planet of near human aliens
charred bridge
Thats even more wild to me than they're actual nazis from WWII
finite compass
The doyleist reason is because using old ww2 stuff was cheap costuming
jaunty dawn
I guess maybe the subtext is he thought if he just taught them…idek…but not prejudice, society would work?
finite compass
See also why half the aliens have togas and Greco Roman aesthetics
desert jay
The doyleist reason is because using old ww2 stuff was cheap costuming
Probably not even original WW2 stuff but rather recycling from WW2 movies filmed on the Paramount lot
jaunty dawn
And the downfall is theres a nearby alien planet that they had a preexisting prejudice against
finite compass
It’s the stupid ‘fascism is more efficient’ trope
jaunty dawn
Yeah its really dumb
floral herald
The doyleist reason is because using old ww2 stuff was cheap costuming
Even cheaper actually
jaunty dawn
Which like I can see a history professor being dumb but that doesnt seem to be the point the episode is making :T
But he literally made himself hitler
floral herald
Original Star Trek basically used the props of whoever else was filming around then
And just Made it Work
So there’s lot of WW2 and cowboy stuff
jaunty dawn
And the only reason he went missing which triggered the investigation is because his second in command drugged him to take over while keeping him as the figurehead
desert jay
But he literally made himself hitler
Probably figured that if he's in charge he can keep things on the rails, but also it's a very silly premise
jaunty dawn
Theres an episode of ds9 about a lady who creates a primitivist fascist colony by sabotaging their spaceship that I find so upsetting every time I watch it
desert jay
So there’s lot of WW2 and cowboy stuff
Also the SpaceNazi headquarters building is just the Paramount offices with Nazi flags draped over it
jaunty dawn
Very warhammer much fortykay
jaunty dawn
Wizard
floral herald
buppy
past sphinx
KT designers love a dog in there
jaunty dawn
Reading it does make a little bit worried theyve overindexed on the storm and its gonna feel like they cant do stuff elsewhere but as an elite team theyll probably be fine lol
jaunty dawn
Tbf the wolf is abt as big haha
floral herald
I'm pretty fuckin tempted
I was gonna split the box with a pal
But they wanted to wait so idk
I might snag it and sell em the suits later
jaunty dawn
I need to try and check out the suits once theyre out cause Im undecided on them haha
past sphinx
this is extremely cringe but isnt pack markings for wolf scouts white and black?
gw cant even paint their models the right colors
because of woke
jaunty dawn
Is it a great company thing
floral herald
There's a weird thing going on with them
Since some of them are in WS colors
And the rest are wait nvm
Yeah there is a weird thing
The pack leader and basic guys are Blackmanes and the rest are Company of the Great Wolf
jaunty dawn
Strangee
Oh the pack leader isnt compulsory apparently
Which
Is he a wolf guard?
floral herald
Hmmm
I am guessing that the Blackmanes are studio models for the basic bitch 40k version which is all plasma pistol and knife guys
And the COGWs are the special kill team models
jaunty dawn
I cant tell if theres something extra weird with the leader or if its like the leader is rune priest or pack leader
And yeah blackmanes for a squad thats painted as studio space wolves
Or maybe,,, maybe. The wolf is the leader
Leader matters right? For some key ops?
floral herald
It's probably like Deathwatch where they have a leader model but he's optional
jaunty dawn
Is it also still tied to cp gain
Oh
Wild
Didnt know that
Im out of the loop haha
floral herald
DW is the only team like that rn
jaunty dawn
Mm
past sphinx
interested to see how they slot into space wolves
were already an aggressive army but 5 plasma pistols sounds like a meme unit i would make
jaunty dawn
I think I kinda like them as an update to wolf scouts
Like they feel more like a unique unit for this era of 40k
While still retaining a lot of the identity
past sphinx
i wish they where mostly didnt have the sleeves
looks sick without em
like THATS a wolf scout baby
sun outs guns out!'
past sphinx
incredible pull
broken dew
Was considering writing out the saturnine dreads from my custom chapter but i have decided to have them be retrofit armors instead that the Dusk Defiant reforged from broken sets they scavenged
With the newer 30k stuff for them i think they prolly exist in sufficient quantity accross the galaxy that it's not crazy that the Dusk Defiant would manage to piece together a few broken sets and retrofit them with more available parts
Definitely wanna make some art of that now though
past sphinx
HIGH KING OF FENRIS, LONG FANG, THE GREAT WOLF, FOERENDER, KRACKEN BANE
MACK DADDY
Logan Grimnar
broken dew
old guy
broken dew
certified grandpa status
looks majestic tho
funny to think that Dante is older than this dude
desert jay
He’s tired as fuck and they don’t let him quit
past sphinx
he does not infact still have that dog in him
desert jay
Other than blood angels old
All the first founding chapters are old
past sphinx
considering what the nids did to baal i dont think many of them are
jaunty dawn
Pfff
desert jay
IIRC Dante even had an incident where he almost died and was like “ugh finally” and passed out and woke up a primaris
past sphinx
space marines live for a genuinely unknown amount of time
jaunty dawn
But yeah my point was more what interesting things happened in m39
Or wait
No
M40
desert jay
Yeah he’d be born in mid M40
jaunty dawn
How does time work
past sphinx
nonlinearly
desert jay
Well assuming the years are counting on the same calendar he’s been on
jaunty dawn
Hes been chapter master for like all of m41
And dark imperium is early m42
How old is calgar
desert jay
I think Dark Imperium is actually in the late 900s of M41
jaunty dawn
Wtf calgar erebus’d his friend?????
past sphinx
yeah
jaunty dawn
But like. Wholesome style
Or did erebus calgar his friend
I think even with the indomitus crusade being shortened substantially its still m42
Cause before gathering storm stuff was already happening right on the brink so
But yeah makes sense for calgar to just be like wow
desert jay
Wait I thought that was before Cadia but yeah you’re right
past sphinx
the mans bearly got his mouth round the unknown horrors of the galaxy and hes a chapter master of the 500 worlds
jaunty dawn
Wait when did tau show up
Woah krieg becomes like, modern day krieg in late m40
949
broken dew
IIRC Dante even had an incident where he almost died and was like “ugh finally” ...
it was much worse than that
he pretty much DID die
desert jay
Wait when did tau show up
A few centuries after the Necrons
broken dew
he saw Sanguinius
like literally Sanguinius showed up and told him he unfortunately couldn't die yet and then Guilliman arrived just in time so they could rez him
poor Dante
jaunty dawn
Damocles crusade was 74x.m41
jaunty dawn
The imperium only found out about necrons properly in 897.m41???
past sphinx
they are very stupid people
jaunty dawn
The silent king had been secretly back for 150 years at that point
past sphinx
just thought they where weird robots
past sphinx
trazen is actively stealing shit pre-imperium
jaunty dawn
Chaos demons 6e has a story about necrons waking up to a lifeless world but with like imperial ruins and wondering wtf happened and then they explore the whole planet and find a demon in the core
And then cause it was their codex the demons killed all the necrons
charred bridge
IIRC Dante even had an incident where he almost died and was like “ugh finally” ...
He got a vision from sanguius saying like I'm sorry your is work is not done and Dante was like please I want to be done I've lived longer and done so much more than any blood angel but you
He was arguing with his primarch, do not resuscitate
desert jay
Actually he might've even lived longer than Sanguinius, lemme check some numbers
Okay, creation of the primarchs was some time in M29(EDIT: M30), Siege of Terra was 014.M31
So basically 50/50
brittle salmon
DNR not respected 
charred bridge
DNR not respected <:sadcowboy:572822626456698892>
Sanguinis is going to lose his Medicae license
charred bridge
The silent king had been secretly back for 150 years at that point
Silent King was just awake watching the entire time waiting for imperium to end itself like millions of civilizations he's witness
The wrench was no one had sent out a beacon that attracted something like the Tyranids to the galaxy and he got on his ass to wake others up, or as fast as a Necron can do things
Silent King, also likes Dante and thinks he should have been the ruler of the Imperium than the Emp's
jaunty dawn
Its kinda funny that like eldar and orks and chaos have been fighting the imperium basically forever
And then like every other faction showed up like yesterday
charred bridge
You think like the SK enjoyed watching civs beat up their old foes
past sphinx
and hrud!
desert jay
Okay, creation of the primarchs was some time in ~~M29~~(EDIT: M30), Siege of Te...
Okay actually found tighter numbers on GW website, definitely some time between 550.M30 (Primordial Strain is created) and 792.M30 (The Scattering), and probably in the 700s of M30
Which means Sanguinus, Ferrus, and Horus lived no more than 464 years tops
jaunty dawn
Or like with both tyranids and necrons the fact that like a bunch of random isolated things for millenia are suddenly an organised force attacking
broken dew
Which means Sanguinus, Ferrus, and Horus lived no more than 464 years tops
not Dante being older than all three of them combined
thin ibex
When can we pre-order the new kt?
sour sequoia
KT on bike bases…
Atalan Jackals killteam on the horizon
thin ibex
Jackal kill team feels like a 90's action movie fight sequence, or a power rangers fight
Where a bunch of guys randomly show up on dirt bikes to fight the heroes, and they come from every direction
While also doing random tricks
stark cypress
jaunty dawn
Bmx banditt
sour sequoia
Honestly I’d also settle for kelermorph n reductus saboteur rep in KT, wyrmblade retiring is criminal
valid brook
If James W. brought back Elysians, he would own my ass forever
tranquil ivy
i just bought some 3d printed bits and got this entire Admech basing piece with it like holy shit
i got this completely free
tranquil ivy
my Bladeguard now have heads
pastel rampart
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
tranquil ivy
WHAT DO I NAME THIS MAN
tranquil ivy
*WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH*
Orks?
tranquil ivy
interesting
pastel rampart
There's still some warping issues I'm having at the corners despite messing with various settings but it's not so bad as to be unusable. Easily hitten with plasticard and bitz (or left alone because it's orks yanno).
tranquil ivy
I just got this Ork piece myself for my Space Marines, lol
pastel rampart
Hah.
Mind, this isn't for me, it's for a friend who has a bunch of orks but hardly any vehicles. Since they have a resin printer and will print out anything I ask it only seemed fair game to return the favor.
tranquil ivy
orks are pretty fun i'll be honest
i wanna make an Ork army using Skaven
"THIS TRUCK-TRUCK IS PERFECT FOR KILLING-MURDER"
"EXCELLENT OBSERVATION-VIEWS CHIEF-CHIEF!"
(i have no idea how skaven talk)
pastel rampart
More or less how they talk.
tranquil ivy
splendid
marsh tree
I wonder what the imperium would think of The Devil Went Down to Georgia
On the one hand, it’s a triumphant tale of a mortal besting Slaanesh. On the other, it feels exactly like the sort of thing that would inflate the ego and cause more Slaanesh converts.
floral herald
It’s a bop which means it’s bad, escape from drudgery is a betrayal of the emperor’s sacrifice
tepid stratus
Stealth suits are gonna be wild in shooting matchups
Melee teams are licking their lips at 12 wound elites tho
floral herald
These guys looks like a pain in the asssss haha
tepid stratus
Love that wolf scouts are canoptek circle but with a bubble instead of a line
tepid stratus
It's a 6" bubble off a token
floral herald
Probably the long template at the bottom
tepid stratus
It's a 6" template to check if you're in range of the token
floral herald
It's a 6" template to check if you're in range of the token
Oh, yeah maybe
tepid stratus
Maybe a psychic shooting attack?
That could be a thing too. The preview didn't go over the psychic powers but apparently the psyker is very killy
All in all it's a neat take on the same gimmick as canoptek. Bigger total buff area but a weaker buff and can't spread as wide
floral herald
It’s also way more mobile
Which is nice
Managing the zone is really hard for Canoptek
tepid stratus
Yeah flat 6" for the token compared to a total 9" (if using the ploy) shared among 3 tokens
You can be more mobile but your threat is much more focused
Feels like a good evolution on the sweep and clear markers kasrkin and breachers have as side gimmicks
rocky shale
These guys looks like a pain in the asssss haha
I'm in conceal you can't see me
I'm out of conceal you can finally-
Sike I'm back in conceal
Oh youre gonna charge?
Actually me and all my friends get to walk away and be in conceal again.
deft crest
Imagine charging when you know they could escape.
Yeah I am still worried about em but i'm glad that my bugs are still just going to fuckin EAT them
"Patient hunters" lol, We'll see who is more patient you fuckin nerds, I can wait 2 turning points
floral herald
Yeah snakes are probably a brutal MU for them
hollow laurelBOT
Wait, 26es?
pale narwhal
New mark, yeah
Funnily enough contradicting the existing naming conventions for stealth suits wherein -_5 is the number for stealth and -_6 is the number for void/aerial operations
jaunty dawn
Oh I just noticed the drones are on 25mm baes
Thats new
The mark thing is so dumb especially since these are clearly an xv25 refresh
And even if they were committing to it being a new version in universe it couldve been xv25-02 or whatever
pale narwhal
And also 5 models not 6 which means people who have 3x3 stealth suits will be short one for 40k (in all likelihood unless it’s 3-5)
rocky shale
The mark thing is so dumb especially since these are clearly an xv25 refresh
You'd think but the new deathwatch kill team is a different unit from the firstborn vets unit
My guess is that they'll replace them next edition
jaunty dawn
I mean I wouldnt be surprised if theres a new specialist unit
But there was no reason said unit cant be wearing xv25
Also its in field testing so it should b 22
And nu shadowsun shouldve been like 32 or 42
tepid stratus
I'm in conceal you can't see me
I'm out of conceal you can finally-
Sike I'm bac...
My inquisition playing ass laughing while shouting "you can't hide!" As my blind psyker starts popping off with full seek and a 4" always valid target bubble
rocky shale
My inquisition playing ass laughing while shouting "you can't hide!" As my blind...
I think the "takes precedence over all other rules" means that wouldn't override the no visibility rule
Also I don't see that ability on the Inquisitorial Agents Mystic?
tepid stratus
Also I don't see that ability on the Inquisitorial Agents Mystic?
Intense scrutiny, it's a strategy ploy. Extends the 2" core rule to 4"
But you're right after rereading stealth fields
Completely overrides visibility rules but not targeting so abilities that can target without visibility would work
Nemesis claw ventriloquist would be nasty into these guys
junior summit
Finished Above And Beyond and it's a solid book
hollow laurelBOT
Shouldn't it.. Be 25-2 then?
Always_Nat_1 (He/Him) ↩️
deft crest
rocky shale
PLEASE
pale narwhal
Shouldn't it.. Be 25-2 then?
25-02 is probably the correct nomenclature yeah
thin ibex
Id expect a exodite kill team before a combat patrol
raw vessel
But that means we would be limited to infantry sized dinosaurs
charred bridge
Primaris Harlequin when
west zealot
But that means we would be limited to infantry sized dinosaurs
Are you saying you'd say no to a kill team with murder raptors?
mental birch
pine matrix
Gorgeous!
vital barn
Zones Mortalis rules for 30k are out
nothing too special except for the door rules, which have two funny edge cases:
- You choose after-combat options as normal after meleeing a door, which means the desperate blackshield raider army that gets VPs from looting corpses can now show up, punch all your doors and steal the copper wire to sell later like Link spinning through all the pots for rupees
- Shutting doors on a model hits them quite hard and destroys the door, so you can kill people with doors or shut doors on your own highly durable or regenerating models to break them and prevent the enemy closing them against you later
"stand here, Brother Dipshitius, the Primarch has need of your broad shoulders"
blast doors close around him, leaving a perfectly terminator-shaped hole when he steps out from between them
vital barn
yeah, solid
might be good for TTS, I've found it's mostly limited in person by a dearth of proper Zones Mortalis boards more than anything else
brittle salmon
thin ibex
"stand here, Brother Dipshitius, the Primarch has need of your broad shoulders"
...
Imperial Fist branded combat strategies. "Become the blast door, Brother"
jaunty dawn
Thats an interesting way to do the homing beacon without anything to home on it
runic swallow
nothing too special except for the door rules, which have two funny edge cases:
...
That’s fucking incredible, no notes on either
untold swallow
So I'm in a pbp Oath of Moment game and my character's Chapter is a Gallic/French-inspired Dark Angels successor
Who is currently having a bitchfight over not killing an unsanctioned psyker child with a Black Templar
There is a Franco-German relations joke in here somewhere
broken dew
Unsanctioned psyker you say?
viral crest
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/mq6myfhy/stealth-and-storms-k...
Damn these look very exciting
floral herald
Yeah fun stuff
deft crest
Thankfully as a bug player i don't have to read their "Aren't Visible" rules 
And 12 wounds means: C r u n c h 
floral herald
I saw people on Reddit complaining about all the space marine teams being too strong
(Including wolf scouts)
And I’m just like ???
deft crest
But wolf scouts just seem pretty good
So far
Like, they arent beefy
They WILL die to a couple of good shots
floral herald
They have some good tricks and potentially a lot of plasma
But 5 13 wound guys is fragile as fuck
I struggle to accomplish much with DW without my 18 wound gravis guy to draw aggro
untold swallow
Unsanctioned psyker you say?
And a literal fucking child xD
broken dew
yes yes but you said they were... unsanctioned?
untold swallow
I mean idk the term for 'a blackship hasn't been here yet during this child's life'
She's like 14
broken dew
you had me at "psyker" ngl
untold swallow
And this is a backwater AdMech research planet that I'm sure is on like one blackship's route
vital barn
that's still an unsanctioned psyker, yeah
untold swallow
Well then yes, in the most technical of senses, an unsanctioned psyker
vital barn
the imperium is not nice or practical enough to have a term for "not yet legally classified" other than "fucking bastard witch mutant"
untold swallow
Well my character's need to protect children overrode whatever passes for her hatred of the witch and she straight up threatened the team lead <XD
vaguely, but a threat
floral herald
Sanctioning is a process yeah
Like Shitty Boarding School
In theory it’s also done locally outside of the tithe
untold swallow
Honestly kid may not have even known she was a psyker we have asked her zero questions at this point
She just showed up as a warp signature on auspex that was powerful enough for us to think she was a larger group casting a ritual
But when we busted down the door she was literally just fucking scared shitless and praying lmao
broken dew
mfw i am mildly deviating from standard human template and a Black Templar's show up
pale narwhal
But when we busted down the door she was literally just fucking scared shitless ...
When you opened the door objects also fell out of the air around her
broken dew
my lads rely on machines to detect psykers since they don't have any psykers to do it
charred bridge
Sweating nervously in bald human when a black Templar shows up
broken dew
they also have Immagan Loque who is like, a psychic sniffer dog
untold swallow
> trusting perfidious machines to detect witches
Our psyker also concurred it was a ritual, she just miscast in a way where the gm just
Got to answer her wrong
And this was them answering her wrong
broken dew
he's got a totally not-psychic sixth sense
floral herald
trusting witches to find witches
untold swallow
When you opened the door objects also fell out of the air around her
I will admit this is cope; We technically do not know if she knew she was doing that
floral herald
Believe it or not, pain glove time
charred bridge
Magic pain glove
broken dew
the Dusk Defiant have one guy that is inexorably good at finding witches and they shoot everyone he tells them to shoot
sometimes they even shoot people he doesn't tell them to shoot just to be sure
untold swallow
But yeah the party as a whole is a Storm Giant (son of Nocturne, do not harm the bebe) a Lion Rampant with a Hopeful Conscience (do not harm the bebe), a Blood Raven Librarian (All My Homies Hate Templars), and the Templar
The Templar is our squad lead, but 2/3 of us went over her head or borderline threatened her to save the child xD
tired cairn
And from the same box as the strongest team atm lol
They can't not make KT Necrons really strong, huh
broken dew
you have like, the woke squad and also super racist competetive bigot in the same squad
great success
floral herald
They can't not make KT Necrons really strong, huh
They’ve both been top tier yeah
untold swallow
you have like, the woke squad and also super racist competetive bigot in the sam...
Get Woke, Daughter of Sigismund
vital barn
hey, Siggy fully did not have any kids
Siggy was busy graduating from casual racism to ranked competitive racism
broken dew
he was too busy being posted the fuck up on the lawn of the eye of terror waiting for Abaddons bitch ass to show up
vital barn
I will be honest I mostly use Siggy as my benchmark for "is a duelist character any good"
so I have come to enjoy watching him get his ass beaten into the ground by Abbadon/Corswain/Alone and Forgotten prime centurions/Mechanicus tech-assassins
same for Custodes, except I have very grudgingly developed a general liking for single custodes, just not entire armies of them
guardian spears are just cool
charred bridge
oh spears
Everything is just a sword or axe, outside of white scars wheres my power and chain polearms
vital barn
Night Lords chainglaives, White Scars power glaives, generic 30k power spears
pale narwhal
Nightlords have chainglaives ye
charred bridge
Perhaps I misjudged you night lords
untold swallow
Siggy was busy graduating from casual racism to ranked competitive racism
Heritor of Sigismund then xD
untold swallow
https://tenor.com/view/astartes-vibe-check-punch-warhammer-gif-16764913
funnily enough, if the girl starts having an episode like this, Astelan will step up and end it herself
vital barn
power spears are sadly kind of mid unless you have a strength bonus from somewhere
oh yeah Blood Angels and Emperors Children also have custom spears
untold swallow
She knows the danger unsanctioned psykers possess, she just has that overridden by it being a Literal Child at this point
vital barn
dawnbreaker power spears on jump troops and phoenix power spears on Phoenix Guard termies
broken dew
She knows the danger unsanctioned psykers possess, she just has that overridden ...
the enemy truly is insidious 😤
vital barn
also finished the Dropsite Massacre book
Angron is once again aura farming but not being particularly useful
‘So for warrior honour you would do what?’ asks Fulgrim. ‘Have the five Legions that are on our side declare themselves with us now, before the battle?’
‘Yes,’ says Angron. ‘They raise their banners and blades. We ours. Face to face, the doomed and the defiant.’
‘And all that we will gain from such folly is greater losses,’ says Fulgrim. ‘Losses to forces that the Warmaster will need… that we will all need to end our father’s tyranny of lies.’
‘All that we will gain…’ Angron gives a bitter laugh. ‘We are already dead. All the Legions and mortals that follow us are dead. Our skulls wait under our skin. Now, later, it matters nothing. All that matters is how we face death and deliver it. And warriors die with wounds to their front.’
‘And your sons that you killed on Isstvan III?’ asks Fulgrim, incredulous. ‘You sent them down to the surface along with the rest, unknowing, ignorant of what awaited them.’
‘These were given to me by my sons,’ says Angron, holding his arms wide so that the chains clink and the fresh scars on his skin and armour show clear. He lowers his chin, eyes on Fulgrim. ‘Where are yours?’
untold swallow
the enemy truly is insidious 😤
l m a o
vital barn
Mortarion later stops a charging Angron with a palm strike to the chest and doesn't move an inch, sometimes I think he was more dangerous before the nurgle primarching
untold swallow
I mean
broken dew
the traitor primarchs are fucking funny as hell
untold swallow
I wouldn't put it past Morty to have that be an unintentionally psychic maneuver
vital barn
five dipshit brothers getting in fistfights over politics is the first half of this book
untold swallow
or is Morty only a psyker post-ascension
vital barn
there are three Primarch fights before the loyalists even show up
although only one is serious enough to involve blades
sour sequoia
GSC vs Custodes last night, got to witness the funniest fight on earth: blade champion & 5 wardens vs abominant & 5 aberrants
11 of the toughest killiest models in the game failing to scratch each other for 4 rounds straight
vital barn
(Horus vs Angron)
sour sequoia
I should run muscle beach more
vital barn
or is Morty only a psyker post-ascension
I think he's just beefy as hell
upper canopy
It feels like, genuinely
broken dew
he's the dad of the beefy lads tbf
upper canopy
The heretic Primarchs were only allowed to be cool if loyalists weren't around
vital barn
he gets into psyker stuff via lots of occultist doodads rather than UNLIMITED POWER force lightning, and normally biomancers go straight to the latter
broken dew
didn't Mortarion constantly poison himself
vital barn
his rebreather tank is filled with Barbarus atmosphere because he prefers breathing horrific toxin
upper canopy
Give him 10 quadrillion dollars of war material
vital barn
"Four Legions have already rebelled. As second wave reinforcements, we've selected the four sketchiest Legions: Friendly Fire is Fun, BackStabby McStabberson, Religious Nutters Who Are Chanting For Some Reason, and the guys who take the phrase 'who are you wearing' a tad too literally."
vital barn
Give him 10 quadrillion dollars of war material
this is about on par for the Dropsite Massacre, honestly
broken dew
`"Four Legions have already rebelled. As second wave reinforcements, we've selec...
nothing can go wrong
vital barn
the alpha legion literally phone Ferrus up beforehand to go "you're being an idiot, siege the planet instead of charging in" which is a very funny thing for them to do
broken dew
i always mix up the Dropsite Massacre and the Atrocity
vital barn
once the massacre starts the Alphas apply some nudges to make sure a meaningful proportion of loyalists survive because they want to keep the war balanced out
typical AL
we get a brief Exodus POV where he's sitting on a hill sniping into the valley and having a great time picking the most scumbag-looking night lords to shoot first
broken dew
average Alpha Legion situation
past sphinx
I'm reading through remnant blades and I thoroughly love the conception of nightlords as the best to ever do it but are Simply too spiteful cowardly an ego driven to ever be able to get anything off the ground
broken dew
"most scumbag-looking night lords"
past sphinx
The finest stupid depressed wet rat boys
broken dew
untold swallow
Give him 10 quadrillion dollars of war material
ANOTHER TRILLION TO THE PENTAGON
vital barn
I believe he sees a squad who go up to some sallies and say "WE HAVE COME FOR YOU", the NL battlecry, in the most sarcastic way possible because the Sallies think it means "we're here to help"
at which point he decides "yeah fuck these irony bro marines" and starts dropping guys
untold swallow
we get a brief Exodus POV where he's sitting on a hill sniping into the valley a...
who tf is Exodus???
past sphinx
Brother to levicitcus and numbers
jaunty dawn
exodus is his name and sniping ppl is his game
untold swallow
oh the guy with the svd bolter
vital barn
his gimmick is a) he's basically an Astartes Vindicare and b) nobody can tell how many of him there are, whether it's a name, a codename, a job, etc. because the vox traffic about him is deliberately kept utterly incomprehensible
vital barn
in-game he doesn't have the unique tag despite having a unit entry structured like a unique character, with a singular name and so on
he's Exodus, not "an Exodus", but you can still run three of him if you want
broken dew
me running nothing but exodus
untold swallow
I mean he's AL what do you expect
tired cairn
Pretty cool model too
untold swallow
One guy to have a name?
vital barn
note the one box that is still in mad libs mode
it is totally legal to play Loyalist Alpharius vs Traitor Alpharius on the tabletop
sadly his cool alt deployment rule is now just redeploy-before-game-start rather than his old one
his old one was great
you wrote down a unit name on a bit of paper, folded it up and then deployed your army
as soon as that unit got near the enemy you pulled the bit of paper out, showed it to your opponent and then replaced one model in that unit with Alphy
broken dew
nah, i'd be Alpharius
vital barn
which meant fighting an AL army with a suspicious 465pt gap in what it's deployed became one of those games of "the best place to put him is in the land raider, but he'd know I'd think that he's there so I'm going to assume he's in the second best place....."
I think the loss of the old Everywhere and Nowhere is genuinely the biggest loss in the general compression of Primarch rules from 1/2e
where all of them did insane amounts of army buffing
now they're all basically beatsticks
which I do like, but if Corax and Sangy can keep their wings then Alphy and Curze should have kept their alt deployments
broken dew
suspiciously Alpharius shaped hole in my AL army
vital barn
actually even the current EAN rule lets you do that
the way it works is just "after everyone's done deploying, pick up Alpharius and put him wherever"
so if I have two land raiders, both of which have four terminators inside and 4 spaces of transport capacity free, people start trying to figure out which is the TRUE alpharius retinue because he takes up four transport slots
sour sequoia
You’re missing the part where he gave the three unit redeploy, universal deepstrike/infiltrate and a bunch of scout
GSCmarines
If he hadn’t been toned down so severely I’d 100% be playing AL instead of raven guard
vital barn
oh yeah he was such bullshit
he used to give the entire fucking army reroll 1s to hit and to wound as well
the only thing I want him to get back is Everywhere and Nowhere being something that actually lets you get up the board
since Primarchs having to take one of the three designated Primarch Transports is boring
now you use Dynat to infiltrate squads instead, but he can't infiltrate the boss because the boss has Bulky 4
sour sequoia
since Primarchs having to take one of the three designated Primarch Transports i...
I would simply have move 16" and move through cover + shrouded 4+
mental birch
vital barn
I would simply have move 16" and move through cover + shrouded 4+
yeah, Corax and Sangy are the only two primarchs I would be seriously tempted to run
apart from maybe Lorgar because he can join a bunch of Phraetus and that's cool as hell
Lorgar and his five largest sons
sour sequoia
I forgot to say it last night but the lady olynder kitbash for admech is fucking inspired
I am so excited to see the finished product
vital barn
you know, Alphy just giving his unit Outflank would also be fine
rather than giving his units in reserve outflank on a 5+ or 4+ with Master of Signal, thus retaining a 1/3 chance that you'll come in right at the back of your own DZ
mental birch
I forgot to say it last night but the lady olynder kitbash for admech is fucking...
I'm still giggling at the placing the mechdendrite
Such that it looks like shes pulling her skirt open for it
To go out
pale narwhal
Got my next killteam league game today. My battleclade vs votann salvagers (also the first middleweight team I’ve fought in the league)
pastel rampart
vital barn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/596197650332778498/1436046503708856432/IM...
Alpharius, logically, is allowed to use the ability that shockingly reveals that you are Alpharius to discomfit your opponent
less logically, he can do this even if he's been walking up to the target in full Primarch armour while shrugging off lascannon hits for the last two game turns
upper canopy
That doesn't seem like it's actually the I Am Alpharius bit
vital barn
yeah, it's somewhat abstracted
Alphy doesn't need it anyway, he's like Init 9 or something stupid
he outspeeds everyone apart from Jaghatai Khan
ties with Fulgrim
statistically beats both of them because neither are particularly well optimised for primarch duels
this is kind of mean to Fulgrim honestly
he has a rough time in Primarch fights statwise because the way duels work in HH3e really favours huge walls of beef with sledgehammers over light fast death-of-1000-cuts swordsmen
has to go daemon mode and give up his army buffs before he can actually take on most of his brothers
pastel rampart
I fffffffffucking figured it out
If I want flat prints that don't curl like the topmost one I just offset the z-axis by -0.1mm.
Ever so slightly push the STL through the plate so it eliminates the first layer and through whatever arcane science is going on, get flat prints with no curling.
rocky shale
Your printer may have different first layer settings?
Or just the bottom of your stl isn't actually flat
pastel rampart
This has happened across damn near every print I've done so I know it isn't the STLs because it's happened across multiple ones from different creators. Some more curling than others.
I've been playing around with it for a couple weeks now and if this is what gets perfectly flat prints like, sure whatever I'll take it.
rocky shale
What printer is it?
pastel rampart
Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro.
pastel rampart
Well, to be more honest: offsetting the z-axis was an extra setting change I did on top of some others, so I can't be completely certain it's the reason why. So I'm doing a test print of the same piece without the z-axis change to see if that really does make a difference.
If it doesn't, okay cool. If it does then okay cool fine not sure why but I'll roll with it.
charred bridge
Seems like insufficient cooling or printing speed too high so extruded plastic hasn't been cooled.
If it only curls around the edges of prints
Brims might help if it's minor cooling related.
pale narwhal
Got my next killteam league game today. My battleclade vs votann salvagers (also...
Won 15-11
Would have been 18-9 but I misplayed in the final round and let him upload with Worth It (the crit op was Data)
pastel rampart
Seems like insufficient cooling or printing speed too high so extruded plastic h...
Funny enough the successfully flat print was with no cooling, in an enclosure. But the printer is down in the basement and it's often pretty cold down there so my working theory prior to getting an enclosure was the filament entering thermal shock.
I did slow the initial layer speed down as well as bumped the initial layer width to 200. Kept the build plate temp at 60 throughout, reducted retraction length and speed. I always use a brim.
Right now the test piece without the z-axis offset isn't curling so I think I've hit a sweet spot, so to speak.
thin ibex
Rogue trader looking wild
west zealot
Everything is just a sword or axe, outside of white scars wheres my power and ch...
I dunno why, but chainglaives/chainreapers are where my brain trips on things, even though a chain-scythe almost makes more sense? (Hook the blade over your target and pull back...)
charred bridge
I mean chainweapons don't really make sense but its 40k
west zealot
https://bsky.app/profile/coopgames.bsky.social/post/3m4ycnjx52s2t
This is very funny to me because the way it's proportioned looks like an Ork dok sewed his head back in after a bad accident, and well, the dok did his best
charred bridge
https://bsky.app/profile/coopgames.bsky.social/post/3m4ycnjx52s2t
Back when xenos lived alongside humans
west zealot
I mean chainweapons don't really make sense but its 40k
Oh I know, but like chainswords I can get behind pure rule of cool
charred bridge
Power Lance to me is pure rule of cool
Guan Dao power weapon
Swords are like, nearly everything is a sword in 40k
west zealot
Power lance/glaives work fine for me, it's just the chainglaive that I trip on
charred bridge
Or an ax
west zealot
I'm still holding out for Chainshields though
Just give me a side marine with a big arse Greek hopilite shield and it's got counter rotating teeth on it
broken dew
finally got around to tweaking the mockup for the Castellan Shield-Lords, decided to go with the idea of the chapter using dreadnought and indomitus terminator parts to rework the broken Saturnine they had into something usable
charred bridge
Ah yes a shield that could cut you if you blocked an heavy impact and it pushed the shield edges towards you
Wouldn't even be the silliest weapon in 40k
pastel rampart
Hey if Doomguy can wield it, why not a space marine
charred bridge
Doom guy respawn
So Vulkan would probably be fine
Although he's been in the gulag for a while and hasn't respawn Ed
broken dew
finally got around to tweaking the mockup for the Castellan Shield-Lords, decide...
Calling this the Saturnine Vespera pattern, basically just a repair version of the Saturnine that is a bit worse in every way
Vespera is also just Dusk in latin
They have like actually 4 of these suits in total so it's not exactly a proper pattern but they named it anyway
pastel rampart
Right now the test piece without the z-axis offset isn't curling so I think I've...
Well, had a slight bit of curling but perfectly useable. So the z-axis being offset plays a part in having flatter prints for...some reason. I think, anyway.
junior summit
what are good 40k books?
tired cairn
People seem to like The Infinite and the Divine
vital barn
Titanicus
Titanicus is the best 40k book
Honourable mention to Know No Fear, which is basically the actual point of the Horus Heresy series distilled into one genuinely good book
pale narwhal
dan abnett writes humans pretty well
Double Eagle is one I quite like (about imperial fighter pilots)
vital barn
Titanicus clears, sorry
the Necron books are all consistently decent to great but they do not compare to Dan Abnett's single best book
it's funny that it has space marines on the cover because they are very much Sir Not Appearing In This Novel
get outta here Salamanders, this is about an old man coming to a strategic detente with his demons just in time to punch a cathedral with a chainsaw the size of a land raider
mild glen
infinite and the divine not mentioned...
Infinite and the divine was literally the first answer to the question
I like Elemental Council and the Ciaphus Cain books.
Currently reading Assassinorum Kingmaker and it's enjoyable.
brittle salmon
Infinite and the divine was literally the first answer to the question
Not by Misc :p
I like to rag on him a lil bit for not liking it
vital barn
I was never a huge necron fan
I do think they're consistently well written though
Twice Dead King was fun
mild glen
I've never read the Infinite and the Divine. But I do keep wanting to shorten it to InfDiv because of that comic book.
tranquil ivy
refurbishing my old Termi Captain
question is what arms i give him
this is Jerry
i don't like Jerry
Enkidu
arctic lynx
what are good 40k books?
Other than the already mentioned ones, I'll throw in Fehervari's books.
Fire Caste is not the Tau centric book it's name implies but it's a really good book. Requiem Infernal and Cult of the Spiral Dawn are really solid as well.
west zealot
Ah yes a shield that could cut you if you blocked an heavy impact and it pushed ...
Just have the blades on one side! It's fine!
west zealot
infinite and the divine not mentioned...
I honestly think it's over rated. It's solid, it has its moments, but it's kinda crude in its writing at points too.
Rath thankfully gets better as a writer and his Assassinorium: Kingmaker is genuinely good
brittle salmon
agree to disagree
west zealot
what are good 40k books?
Pretty much all of Mike Brooks is genuinely really well written. Highlights are his Orks, his navigator book, and his alpha legion novel
Ciaphas Cain novels can be a bit repetitive, but they're very good overall.
Twice Dead King is some genuinely excellent literature
west zealot
agree to disagree
Never, knife fights only
Fabius Bile trilogy is excellent stuff too
broken dew
Fabius Bile is a funny guy
west zealot
What else... Chris Wright is good at really hitting the grim dark if that's what you're looking for, but that's also why I find him a limited quantities only. Genuinely good author though
A lot of people really love Peter Fehevari's Dark coil horror. It's not entirely my taste, but it is good
pastel rampart
Night Lords trilogy.
novel cove
floral herald
No way he wins, he’s never shown any particular aptitude for card games
broken dew
bro is losing hard yeah
past sphinx
what are good 40k books?
standard issue reply of the nightlords omnibus
older but golder
desert jay
No way he wins, he’s never shown any particular aptitude for card games
You’re saying we need to send Yugi Mutou instead?
floral herald
Better matchup for sure
bright dove
No, we need to send in Yusei, since he has a 0 on screen non-flashback loss record.
mental birch
bright dove
The Nighthaunt models donctinue to be great for kitbashing. Hi Lady Olynder!
broken dew
oooh that is nice
tired cairn
The Poorhammer crew had a "40k games that should exist" episode and one of the suggestions was one of those "controls that hate you" games (like qwop, surgeon simulator etc), but you play a tech-priest having to get used to all their new implanted limbs. And I want that to exist now
acoustic sierra
I just wanted paint and brushes I swear
floral herald
Great job!
acoustic sierra
Thanks Cyan you're not helping 😭
Really excited to do the commissar (see pfp) and vampire lord (see username)
But also, Skaven
acoustic sierra
This is a really cool bash
I only just now had a "reason" to post in this forum but im glad to see so many other painters in Pnet
pastel rampart
still warren
need a hamburger 40k now
charred bridge
https://www.tumblr.com/fujoshisororitas/797243221482831872?source=share
That Tumblr username though
Most hinged soritas
broken dew
need a hamburger 40k now
strong owl
pastel rampart
Hell yes
vital barn
aww yeah red bolters
I am torn between the old red bolters and the old hazard stripe bolters for my Alpha Legion
I think the subdued stripes from the front cover of Legion might look better with the iridescent blue
junior robin
but what about red hazard stripes? 
pastel rampart
The problem with hazard stripes on bolters is painting them on.
...though, with nail stamps becoming popular in the painting scene that's probably a lot easier to do for an army.
acoustic sierra
nail stamps?
pastel rampart
Yup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HNQbVBfcro It started when Goobertown Hobbies helped launch a set of miniature-specific ones but nail stamp plates have been around for a long time.
And in retrospect it's like...well yeah duh why aren't we using these.
broken dew
hobby synergy time baby
pastel rampart
Stamp plates and stampers go for pretty cheap but for plates you do have to find designs on there that fit your intended purpose. Any sort of nail polish will work too.
I know you can get your own custom stamp plates made but price is going to vary.
broken dew
time for checkered pattern
thin ibex
I've been reading blood of asaheim, been enjoying it
Or the series that starts with it
Mid book 2
Realize it's set pre fall of Cadia but has really good vibes
pastel rampart
time for checkered pattern
Thankfully those and hazard stripes are common on Aliexpress!
Numbers too. Animal designs like old-school heraldry, less so.
broken dew
straight up lamenting it, and by it, lets just say, my space marines
pastel rampart
It's something I've considered picking up, though I have a mountain of waterslide decals I've been collecting for uuuuuh 20-something years now.
broken dew
fair enough
pastel rampart
BUT I've seen some very pretty stamp plates that'd be good for SoBs, mostly vehicles.
And titans too of course. Knights would benefit hugely from it.
pastel rampart
I mean, y'got a 3D printer. You can have a knight any ol' time.
broken dew
true
if i ever do make my Dusk Defiant army it'll need to be after i get a lot more disposable income
glossy vapor
Did kill team get rid of the scouting phase? I watched a battle report today and they used a different ruleset to determine first round initative.
floral herald
Yes
glossy vapor
That seems like kinda a massive change to make without like, changing edition
But honestly as someone looking in on kill team it always seemed a bit convoluted so I get why they got rid of it
floral herald
All of the primary and secondary objectives also changed so it’s a comparatively minor part of it
glossy vapor
The card system to push your chances at taking initative also seems very cool
floral herald
Unless you were a team which really needed that 5th equipment
glossy vapor
On a unrelated rant. I was eyeing deathwatch as a first kill team because of the versatility, and I'm pissed as hell to discover that you either need to buy the combo box with necrons or 2 standalone boxes to make the full roster.
$69 for five 32mm models
floral herald
Yeah you get a lot of random extra bits in the box but it’s a tough sell
You can magnetize a full roster but it’s a pain in the ass
glossy vapor
A full roster magnetized would be cool
floral herald
It’s doable because the arms will fit on any body
But there aren’t enough deathwatch shoulderpads for everyone
So you’d either need to double magnetize or get some extras somehow
Also no way to run both the Disruptor and Headtaker at once, but you probably don’t want to
tall depot
https://tenor.com/view/heretic-burger-warhammer-sanguinius-gif-18201763
I always felt like the fur on his armor looked like a giant pepperoni pizza
glossy vapor
I watched a video today on one box teams and it's wild how many you can't make the full roster for without either a supplemental 40k box (ratings, blades of kaine) or a second box of the same kill team which will be mostly leftovers (karsakin, novitiates)
rocky shale
The full rosters usually involve some of the crappy soldier options you don't really want
glossy vapor
I watched a video today on one box teams and it's wild how many you can't make ...
Also why is it even called the "blades of kaine" box with kill team branding when it's just striking scorpions and the other 2/3rds of it are just 40k aspect warrior boxes?
Idk I guess that gets you a nice set of team specific tokens for kill team
floral herald
That one comes with the tokens and such but it’s meh
You don’t usually run more than 2 scorpions lol
rocky shale
The blades one was funky because the other options for the team didn't need a new kit
glossy vapor
The full rosters usually involve some of the crappy soldier options you don't re...
Ok fair but that's a different problem.
I dislike how like, 50% of boxes like hint at the idea of there being a bit of roster customization, but in reality there is a clear optimal list
rocky shale
Ok fair but that's a different problem.
I dislike how like, 50% of boxes like h...
I think most of the kill teams have some level of match up-based operative selection worth considering
Like obviously you take most of the specialists always but there's definitely situational picks for certain match ups and missions
floral herald
Most of the ones with choices have meaningful ones yeah
glossy vapor
Ok that is good to hear.
I'm only just starting to get into following the game and from what I've been hearing it's like, most teams only have 2-3 units extra and most teams have 2-3 bad picks.
floral herald
It depends a lot on the team
Some like Gellerpox or a couple others have no choices
Some have “choices” but 1 real roster like Raveners
rocky shale
Stuff like inquisitorial agents have a billion options
floral herald
Yeah they’re on the other extreme
floral herald
Sanctifiers, Agents, Arbites, Blades of Khaine, Legionaries, Deathwatch, Phobos, and Brood Bros are the ones with the most meaningful options I think
past sphinx
jesus fuck what are they feeding those boys on the rock
does being a gay space catholic activate the pineal gland or something
floral herald
Sanctifiers, Agents, Arbites, Blades of Khaine, Legionaries, Deathwatch, Phobos,...
Unfortunately these are also pretty much all multi boxers except Legionaries, and they’re tricky to get a hold of
Phobos just needs a couple of random Reivers though
rocky shale
Blades of khaine you just end up owning if you play aeldari
floral herald
True
junior summit
Theres no custodes KT, right?
floral herald
Theres no custodes KT, right?
Nope
floral herald
The last edition had a custodes compendium team
rocky shale
Only sisters of silence in inquisitorial agents
junior summit
I remember in one of the low power level games there being a custodes team that was three guys who could act twice per guy to avoid being completely overwhelmed
floral herald
Smallest team in this edition is 5 models
floral herald
I think KT18 may have had smaller custodes stuff but idk
jaunty dawn
Kt21 didnt give them extra activations
junior summit
They were 4 APL nerfed to 3 and had a stratagem for extra actions
jaunty dawn
Ah
junior summit
And outright immune to stuns and injury
jaunty dawn
I kinda liked the fire team system from kt21 compendium
junior summit
18 wounds with a 2+ as well
floral herald
There was so much P2 then they were still a little fragile without shields though
Mostly just a “Lordy KT21 was lethal” comment
jaunty dawn
Custodes team thats one sneaking suit custode and 4 agents
floral herald
This would be an amazing take on Brood Bros
rocky shale
Kill team: one armiger
vital barn
I think one armiger does delete one custodian in one of the newer BL books
I know mostly because a bunch of guys went "what the hell, does that knight have DAOT tech or something" afterwards before it was pointed out that heavy multimeltas do tend to kill infantry
so total knight victory there
I have been considering adapting the old HH1e Victory Is Vengeance ruleset to HH3e because I really quite liked it, it's this little combat patrol-sized thing where you play 250-450pt games with ad hoc fireteams of 1-5 guys as your units and a few heroes taken from your army's normal squad sarges
and I tried applying it to 3.0 custodes and realised that you would have maybe five to seven units of one guy
(and also probably be way too strong, due to being all TEQ at a points level that low, so I'd have to give them a mandatory points allocation of SOS or serfs)
floral herald
Kill team: one armiger
I bet you could have a neutral enemy scenario with an armiger
vital barn
could steal the Trench Crusade dragon hunt mission
which is very fun
there's just this lone giant stompy monster wandering around and it aggros on the person to shoot it last, but you get VPs for damaging it
floral herald
Is that the one with the haunted tank neutral enemy?
vital barn
tank, giant demon, escaped alchemical monster, yeah
desert jay
I think as an actual team, one armiger would lose on objectives and two armigers would win on annihilation
vital barn
the default is "oh just use a Leman Russ" but it just has to be something you can climb on
rocky shale
Two armigers is a combat patrol lol
desert jay
Yeah and the armiger combat patrol also has its own special rules for objectives
vital barn
balance on it has always been a bit touchy but it's generally regarded as really fun if sometimes a bit skewed
just due to the nature of beating on a giant model getting you points in a game with fairly wide dice variance
I've always thought it might be fun to have a regular objective capping mission with two Dragons in it, aggroed on each other unless you get too close or antagonise them
for the Forever Winter experience
pastel rampart
topaz elk
Made this for my friend's rogue trader playthrough
broken dew
lmao
gods i'm looking forward to Rogue Trader
i still have like 20 levels of WoW classic before i get there
but the payoff is gonna be so good
desert jay
Not to be confused with Planet Torcher The Inquisitor
topaz elk
Of course
rocky shale
http://puu.sh/KDxno/111093831e.jpg
Ooooh
If they're bringing out a bunch of new nurgle knights I might have a moment of weakness
pastel rampart
It looks like they did, I got into the stream a little late.
sour sequoia
The way I finally have confirmation of the ten million ultramarine whales living beneath Nottingham, they’re all in the youtube comments
pastel rampart
Well, knights on foot anyway
sour sequoia
Yeah, big armored blight templars. Very pretty models, not spectacularly distinct from blightkings? Can kitbash em pretty easily if you need from look of it
Some neat characters, guy with giant tumor arm and a plague witch girlie + new daemon prince fella
jaunty dawn
Theyre adding technical difficulties to warhammer,,,
pastel rampart
They've been doing that since inception, it's called "a new edition."
rocky shale
It looks like they did, I got into the stream a little late.
Oooh cool. I like the human range of AoS nurgle a lot.
I'm at work can't watch the stream 
jaunty dawn
Warhammer quest centaur is cool
They’re really teasing kurnothi hard lately
Or just in general non sylvaneth alarielle
vital barn
I like these for Ruinstorm daemons, since they're big armoured nurgle lads but not obviously chaos space marines
unfortunately I do not collect those but they're one of the armies I wish well to because when they're good it keeps the Space Marines honest
jaunty dawn
This new nurgle army box coming with 7 non chaos guys and boards is a bit weird 😋
floral herald
Technical difficulties?
floral herald
Ok cool, not just me
vital barn
clearly they're previewing Effrit Stealth Squads and the vox disruption has taken out the stream
(please, my poor effrit, the only way to get the official gun for them is one character model so you have to find a bunch of space marine-sized double barrel shotguns that actually look good)
past sphinx
http://puu.sh/KDxno/111093831e.jpg
i have one very specific joke
cinder wraith
one of my friends are having a crashout because the stream isnt that great
vital barn
I do quite like the AL saboteur model but his gun part is not good for arming a whole squad of marines
pastel rampart
Reminder that the "do not ping" in my nick isn't a joke.
vital barn
(also least sneaky model ever, but he's got a cape)
mild glen
Multi billion dollar company. Bigger than the UK's fishing industry.
Stream and audio quality like a thirteen year old that just got a twitch account.
floral herald
I’d like to see the UK fishing industry’s twitch stream
vital barn
they could probably do quite a good one because there's a running joke that the Fishing Ministry is the fake civil service job title for a bunch of spies
floral herald
Oh lol
vital barn
I have previously said that they should now be in the Warhammer Ministry since there's more industrial activity to hide the spying in
charred bridge
Ordos Phishing
floral herald
Stream back
vital barn
Ah, just as I was making toast
pale narwhal
is the audio worse for anyone else? bc it sounds worse
jaunty dawn
Its real bad
floral herald
I have sound off
jaunty dawn
What a fantastic bfbfbbbbbbbbfbbbbb
vital barn
Going to do some wild 30k wishlisting while I'm here: 30k Skitarii troops with unlocked techno arcana please
and at least some kind of melee infiltrators because we have good melee infiltrator characters that are completely useless due to having zero good squads to join
pale narwhal
and at least some kind of melee infiltrators because we have good melee infiltra...
skitarii who can be built as either infiltrating shooty infantry or infiltrating melee infantry
would be so so nice
vital barn
they previewed a photon rifle and some ruststalker-esque legs before, might not be impossible
jaunty dawn
Yeah
past sphinx
At this rate I think we just about have too much nergel in every single warhammer format
floral herald
http://puu.sh/KDxsx/30ff13f005.jpg
Me when there’s no employees much wash hands sign
vital barn
here come the boys
jaunty dawn
Horses horsesh
jaunty dawn
Ooh
vital barn
pretty pretty breachers
brittle salmon
plastic cataphractii let's go
jaunty dawn
Wonder how big they are
vital barn
what a strange kit to split in half
pale narwhal
two kits with different weapons? they couldn't just release the other weapons as an upgrade sprue? yeah
jaunty dawn
They probably will
jaunty dawn
Like based on how the dreads were released
pale narwhal
MECHANICUM SKITARII WOOOO
vital barn
shame that the legion specific termies will now be titchy but hey, I can give my Lernaeans tactical rocks
brittle salmon
@vital barn wish granted
jaunty dawn
Plane
vital barn
those are some pretty pilgrims
brittle salmon
vital barn
Vultarax real
floral herald
Ooh
jaunty dawn
I dont think they have combi bolters and power fists
vital barn
no melee yet but those are great and very distinct from the 40k tinmen
bit more to them
desert jay
Oh I did not know that Forge World Ares sided with Horus Disregard I forgot Mars exists
vital barn
all photon guns
vital barn
tonight we hunt astartes
jaunty dawn
Im not really into these oof
past sphinx
Same
jaunty dawn
Maybe the paintjon
vital barn
plastic Vult is much appreciated
very good model
I think I like the resin one slightly more but hey, much encheapened
and two of them are good in basically any mech army
past sphinx
I like the marshal for em tho
pale narwhal
not photon weapons apparently
weird new things
vital barn
looks like no melee and probably their own tech arcana, which is a shame
vital barn
they look like photon guns and they're mentioned to use photon weapons in the Schism of Mars book that involves them
I think they may just be differently named
the three different sizes are already Photon, Darkfire and Darkblast so a new name would not surprise me
(darkblast now deprecated, none of that this edition)
new skitarii: legs go allll the way up
jaunty dawn
Yeah its
pale narwhal
lmao stream died
jaunty dawn
Idk im into crane legged skitarii but I dont think theyre working
jaunty dawn
Space marine box is tempting though
brittle salmon
Idk im into crane legged skitarii but I dont think theyre working
They're good imo
jaunty dawn
Im glad
vital barn
now I just have to pray they work with [Arcana] in the 30k mech rules because we desperately need more scoring squads
sour sequoia
Part of it
Heresy sculpts are the fucking good but the average heresy fan has a heart attack upon witnessing colors besides Dust Grey Shit Brown And Oil Black, paintjob change could do those real justice
jaunty dawn
Big flamer fellblade
past sphinx
Now thats a flamer
rocky shale
Oooh the new nurgle stuff is so cooool
vital barn
I actually like the tan robes on these
rocky shale
Might be abandoning my skaven plans lmao
vital barn
but I'm looking forward to trying out my pale green and brass on 30k skits
floral herald
Oooh the new nurgle stuff is so cooool
Nurgle is not usually my thing but these rule
jaunty dawn
I think ive grown to kinda dislike the basic studio metallics in my time away mostly
vital barn
looks like no 30k Custodes
rocky shale
Nurgle is not usually my thing but these rule
Same
jaunty dawn
Like tmm without the good stuff to make it look cool
vital barn
63 book series too long, publish another 10 to make it shorter
rocky shale
I love nurgle armor but I don't like the spilled guts and stuff
I.e death guard are sick but the daemons are eh
vital barn
the new skittles are tall enough to be funky and alien but not outright cartoony like the Skatros
I like 'em
floral herald
Wait I missed the beasts
jaunty dawn
No I just meant as like
floral herald
Ought astromancers
jaunty dawn
Cool demon nurgle
jaunty dawn
And theyre not mega old like plaguebearers et al
desert jay
Nurgle definitely feels like GW’s favorite child of the four
vital barn
You’ll be able to find all of the rules for the Skitarii in the next Journal Tactica, titled Skitarii – The Steel Hand of Mars. In this book you’ll gain access to the Skitarii Conclaves army list, which lets you field an independent force of Kelbor-Hal’s loyal troops or ally them into an existing army, with a special rule that dodges the 50% points limit for allies when they’re included in a Mechanicum Taghmata force.
them being their own army is very janky
very Sisters of Silence
jaunty dawn
Tomb kings in necromunda
floral herald
Chad meme guy lol
vital barn
and it looks like they won't synergise with Mech very well if they're a full separate faction
but hey, maybe they'll score well on their own
jaunty dawn
They are seperate chain of command to taghmata
vital barn
it's lore-accurate, yeah, but Mech already wrestles with enough jank from the arcana system
floral herald
Whoa double cops
floral herald
I love these munda models
jaunty dawn
Necromunda love cops and squats
vital barn
I'm not sure I like the new Cataphractii much
past sphinx
God dorfs stay winning
vital barn
unlike the new scale marines they look quite stretched
past sphinx
Their wrong shaped
floral herald
I don’t really care for any cataphractii honestly
pale narwhal
necromunda stays winning
jaunty dawn
Terminators are like
vital barn
custodes, maybe
jaunty dawn
Really reliant on their proportions
past sphinx
Like an old friend that looks a little off in every way
vital barn
for big 40k
pale narwhal
now time for the new ultramarines primaris lieutenant model!
jaunty dawn
Newdomitus works because theyre bigger in every way except head and arms
When do we get the elf dorf
Necron dorf
vital barn
Votann now 2 for 2 in having melee murder characters who hunt xenos
tau dorf, the only one with an actual gun
I dig the paint job on those
fun suits
jaunty dawn
Tau dorf but instead of holding up a tau head its like hugging a tau friend
Ooh I like these
Very new
floral herald
I love this paint job holy shit
jaunty dawn
A man…and a woman…
jaunty dawn
And a third gender (deceased)
glossy vapor
are these the basis for new crisis suits?
vital barn
new unique characters
pale narwhal
okay those tau characters are sick
pale narwhal
also pulse blaster drones
jaunty dawn
Ooh yeah
vital barn
new nids, I admit I struggle to be excited about nids because they're all kind of the same
but cool
good for nids
tepid stratus
Their like that mid tier commander suit that didn't get a model but had rules in 7th and 8th
jaunty dawn
Give us shrikes cowards
glossy vapor
i mean they look smaller than coldstar.
im not saying these are literally new crisis suits, but im just curious if this is the forshadowing for the direction of their inevitable redesign
jaunty dawn
I really like the new stealth drones
Theyre definitely bigger than a coldstar
I feel like
vital barn
oh good more ultramarines
rocky shale
I love this paint job holy shit
Are these epic heroes?