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Started my first match Wyeth necrons ever today, paused and saved at 3rd round
I'm doing awful on secondaries rn
But I think I might be able to turn things around
YESSSS
My models!
Unbuilt piranha
I need to buy two more crisis suit units
Ahhh...two riptides
I also want a storm surge
...I might go buy a stormsurge the next time I can
That's a lie
I will buy a stormsurge the next time I get
Not I might
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‘We need to kill da tinboy,’ he declared, as though Mogrot had never challenged him. ‘An’ we ain’t doin’ dat from here, an’ we can’t get to it ta kill it easy, coz it knows we’z orks, right?’
The ladz nodded. All of that seemed logical.
‘Wot you finkin’?’ Da Boffin asked, scratching one ear and looking at him thoughtfully as he rocked back and forth on his monowheel.
Ufthak beamed.
‘All right, ladz, I’z ’ad a great idea…’
‘’Ello, I’m a humie!’
Humie spaceships, it turned out, had a lot of decent metal sheeting lying around if you had access to a burna to cut it off the walls, so Wazzock had been put to work. Before too long, the mob had several large chunks, to which they’d strapped the more intact of the red-robe corpses they’d made on the way to the door.
‘We’z just humies, walkin’ down dis corridor!’
Ufthak’s plan was proper cunning if he said so himself, which he did, so that was okay. The tinboy must be able to tell humies from orks, or the humies would never let it walk around their spaceship. Therefore, it stood to reason that if it saw humies in front of it, it wouldn’t shoot.
Into the corridor they went, a few boyz behind each metal plate, with dead humies on the front to confuse the tinboy. Simple, but genius.
‘Wot if it don’t work?’ Deffrow hissed.
‘S’gotta work,’ Ufthak argued. ‘I’m talkin’ in humie, ain’t I? An’ makin’ my voice squeaky an’–’
The shoota opened up again. The three boyz behind the foremost plate leaned into the impacts on what had suddenly become a makeshift shield, but the metal sheeting wasn’t designed to stand up to firepower of that magnitude. One of them came apart as a shell punched right through, and Ufthak suddenly had guts over his steel toecaps.
‘Zog it!’ he shouted. ‘Next plan!’
i recognize a lot of those models
This is completely outta left field, but I should do a kitbash of a space wolf and a noise marine. Mostly just want the guitar
For some reason last night I really wanted to make a kitbash of a space wolf that looks like the band "Power Wolf."
The models of my army?
I need a fucking stormsurge GRAAA
ive been hemming and hawing around getting myself a riptide proxy from them
Riptide is sick as fuck
It looks really nice
I've never played it, but armoured core is the vibes I get
9th edition riptide data sheet looked fucking insane
I could understand why triptide was a huge threat
I might start running the burst cannon instead of the ion. I need the output of attacks. Plus I get more attacks for devastating
The ion just wasn't doing it for me
I still run triptide in 10e
Triptide ion is wild ass
I also just don't need that range. I used my riptide to hold the home objective cause I know that my friend usually deepstrikes in my backline. DG Terminators
8th and 9th every datasheet is gonna look insane compared to now
He gets a 6" deepstrike against afflicted. It's not like my riptide is a huge target because I have like multiple units of infantry, missile-sides, etc pushing main
ion rip is statistically so much more dangerous than teh hbc
and i like the hbc so much more
i guess the hbc IS more efficient into infantry, but tau dont need help with infantry killing
The 4+ invul is a god send
tanky boi, you can often expect him to survive a round at a critical juncture
Maybe ion is better but if I ever run Kauyon, it's burst cannon all the way
Mmmm sustained hits 2 and devastating. Reroll hits and wounds of 1 when guided by stealthsuits. Mmmmmm, ignore any or all modifiers to hit
Idk how good the stormsurge is but
its resoundingly ok, the str 24 gun is funny
but i found its raw output is a little lacking for hte investment
since all its secondary guns are ap0
i think its a cool looking centerpiece
I also like the fan mods, that put its gun in its hand instead of over shoulder
i think theyre fine in casuals
but they dont really interact well with the faction rule
they do play really well into big horde armies tho
feels good to fire the cluster missiles into gaunt hordes
that's painted so pretty but I don't care for the conversion haha
I don't really like the concept in general but I think the shoulder missiles look weird heere
hh preview in 25 minutes
i also saw another cool conversion with the shoulder cannon and arms that have the missile launchers
3e confirmed
vulkans prezzie
horus hersey is necromunda now???
leadership, cool, willpower, intelligence
plastic fellblade
plastic breachers with the helmets people want???
Plastic breachers? About damn time
Hoping we finally get new sisters of silence kits
That army list looks cool but I don't want to kitbash all that lol
so are saturnine's effectively super termies?
now that they're properly real again
looks like they no longer have the over head cannon
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over more than 10k years, gun + big hand has remained a constant
oh i forgot to mention while running the void dragon
its very funny
went down to half
then healed to full the following turn
I did learn that I need to know my armies keywords better than I do
And I need to understand the phase sequencing pretty well
To get the most out of hypercrypt
heavy terminators
saturnines are CENTURIONS
look into your heart
you know it to be true
I feel like saturnines are really what centurions probably ought to have been
Though I have weird feelings about their designs, specifically the cables on the shoulder pads
Which I understand are from the original model but it doesn't quite work imo
The praetor with the axe is absolutely screaming to be made into Autek Mor
i think they shoulda leaned more into making em like
marine scale Imperial Knights
make the shoulderpads a like, carapiece section
Wow the Saturnine dread is fucking huge
This is the first pic I saw to really give me a sense of scale
I fucking love it, though I do understand some folks saying it feels a little bit like a third party model. I think it's just the overlapping plates on the front
Also, a point of concern is that they don't mention any additional different weapons for it in the article about what's in the Saturnine box
Which is a little disappointing because imagine a power fist or claw on this fucking thing
will probably see some added later
Gotta say, I like the dreadnaught version more than the terminator one, but it also looks like a less cool version of the Leviathan
Hypercrypt legit the hardest to run of the detachments, because you don’t get the same stat stick potential besides ctan
Chat i dont think it's coming today
Your order is being delivered via cruise missile, they just need to finalize the targeting
It'll be a learning process for sure, but that's part of the fun I think.
Wraiths still hold centerfield like you need em to, they just won’t be damage dealers 😔
Deathmarks/hexmarks/ophydians become your top tier secondary scorers
They took on the assault marines I needed them to, but fell to a squad of terminators
Ultimately they died round 2 but lived as long as I needed them to
That...that's gotta be as big as the GK babycarrier, right?
That is definitely the same height as the baby carrier
Maybe a few mm shorter but fuck is he STANCED
Did this get posted already? https://youtu.be/V8RGHUQ2hnE
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If it did, my bad
I mean, I'm not mad if we post it twice.
It brings me unfathomable joy to see my two favourite legions (Salamanders + Iron Warriors) in the new edition
Honestly also cool that almost all the Liber books are coming out at launch too.
GW making it very easy for me to pick up Liber Questoris and just sneak another game on my plate.
Who's the more stoic? The salamanders or the iron warriors? Trick question, they'll both die before you find out
Sallies had rules to extend the game from sheer stoicism
Trick question, Imperial Fists
I dunno, Iron Hands are also an option
IFs take the cake for me for being wiped out multiple times from sheer stubbornness
All of them just awkwardly staring at each other while frowning
That is a good point
There’s a lot of “these are stubborn tenacious fighters who never give ground” among the space marines but the IFs have bled the most for it
“I’m not owned!” bellows man hiding behind a palisade of his allies corpses in a killzone of bunkers and pre-sighted artillery
I still find any attempt to spin the Iron Cage as a win for the IF absolutely hilarious
actually I took the bait hook, line, and sinker because getting wrecked old style uhhhh builds character
Look if you see a big fort and go “nah that’s a killing field trap I’m staying away” that’s bitchmade
The IWs took the bait with the siege of the imperial palace and you don’t wanna let them have the satisfaction
As an Iron Hands/IH successor player, I would say they're less stoic than they seem because they're actually just always seething
Tbh that’s also the case with the IW and probably half the IF
‘Someone get me Da Boffin!’ he bellowed. ‘An’ also one of his spannerz wot no one likes, an’ a shokk attack gun, an’ a weirdboy wot ain’t exploded anyone’s head recently. I am gettin’ froo dat git!’
‘Now, I ain’t usually da one askin’ dis,’ Da Boffin said, ‘but… are you sure dis is gonna work?’
Da Big Dakka is a good book
Also I love this little lore tidbit -
" She was surrounded by five other warriors: five of her bloodbrides, the finest wyches under her command. Not all of them were female, of course, since ‘bloodbride’ was a title rather than a description; indeed, Xurzuli herself had only taken on a female form in the last few decades since ascending to the rank of succubus, in the same way as every Asuryani warrior who explored the warrior aspect of the Howling Banshees was female, and most incubi were male. Some roles within aeldari society overrode the tenuous grip of biology: it was one of the few constants across all the varied strands of the species’ existence."
Is it just me or the Saturnine looks like Centurions
I think some people have said the same here, I also see it
They really remind me of the less stumpy converted ones I've seen. I think it's mostly just a consequence of what a really bulky but still humanoid powersuit has to look like
Could be the same base tech. Mind you is was all from heavy void suits
Mining tech too i think
Or the saturnine inspired the centurion as a lesser adaptation
Also isn't the centurion like a mech suit for a marine already in power armor?
Yup
I wouldn't be surprised if a retcon makes centurion armor into retooled saturnine armor
It is yeah
Need a grey knight in Centurion armor in a dreadknight in a hypothetical Knight-sized mech that the dreadknight hooks into that then pilots something Titan sized
I also imagine a version where the smaller grey knight pops out when you defeat the bigger version
Ya know how in most duels both guys ended up dying when we talk about irl sword fights?
sometimes i think about that but with lucius, but then i remember that they write him in a weird way
So it probably wouldnt matter
Wasn’t that more of a thing with rapiers specifically?
I’m not a big duel-knower though, so anyone can correct me on this
This is just TTGL
Probably, yeah
But could 100% happen with other kinds of sword
Would Lucious be sad or happy if he won but will die?
(and would be sad or happy if he lost by knew the other guy would die, breaking the "curse")
i couldnt tell...im not very familiar with lucius personality, just his weird powers
I think a trade in a duel would probably just mean he dies for real, since he couldn’t hop into the other guy?
i would hope so
Iirc the curse is because he thought he was/wanted to be the best duelist in the galaxy. So Slaanash thought it would be really funny if he became the guy who defeated him
Yeah that's my assumption, but I'm wondering what his final thoughts given that would be
they made him take over a mindless necron once, at least someone here told me that, it makes no sense since it doesnt have feelings but they wrote it that way
The target slowly turns back into him aiui
but yeah i would hope that a trade in duel means he's just dead now
That's because it happens as long as Slaanesh thinks its funny and a little humiliating
oh yeah! i forgot u were an Emperor's children fan Cyan 
I suspect that Lucious is always a little humiliated to temporarily be the person who defeated him lol. And he doesn't even get another try
🤔 does it have to be duels? Or is
Is it just when Slaanash feels like it
Like if he got killed by random artillery would he come back
i dont think we know
but if it is like Cyan says it also happens when slaneesh feels like it
It's when Slaanesh feels like it
Same as the other mortal champions really
Just with an added twist
The Inquisitor having a group brainstorming session trying to figure out the least amusing way to have Lucious come back after being killed
If they feel good about it at all definitely yes otherwise questionably yes basically
Unfortunately "you get to be the random guardsman that killed Lucious and didn't even know* would probably be quite humiliating to Lucious and also funny
Is the same true for Demons/ascended champions? Or is it like default for them to come back but the Chaos Gods can permanently destroy them if they feel like it
And just imagine the carnage when it wakes up
I wasn't thinking about Lucious becoming the artillery. That's more hilarious though
does he get his shit back when he transforms into the person or is he now naked?
Daemons and quasi-daemons like princes and such go to the warp to reform they're outright immortal (but also now need warp juice to stay in the material realm forever)
The person who killed him turns into another face in his armor
The gods just conditionally bring back the mortals they like
I think Slaanash should have made Lucius have the most recent face of whomever defeated him. That'd be way meaner
Also I've been spelling his name wrong this whole time, but it probably accurately describes his hair given his affiliation
I reckon they're in the armor so he can see the faces of everyone who bested him
I think there was one where a IG mortarman turned into him because he was proud that the fire mission went well
think the worse one was a woman who worked in a landmine factory who was happy that the landmines she was making were killing enemies of the imperium
Lucius shortly after succumbing to tainted building materials on a hive world
‘So when I turn dis on, it uses da energy of dese warp engines to cause a katastroffic warp implosion!’
Ufthak frowned. ‘Is dat good?’
‘Course it’s good!’ Da Boffin scoffed. ‘S’got a lot of fingies, syllables, innit? Like, “grot” is bad, but “Wazbom Blastajet” is good.’
Ufthak nodded. It was a powerful argument.
Gotta love Ork logic
This is also why the Primaris marines are named like that
More syllables= good?
upset carnifex noises as it gets given excessive hugs
What book is that?
Da Big Dakka
Also features two dark Eldar archons falling in love, and acting like really dumb teenagers about it because DE are so emotionally compromised
Which is hilarious
‘Turnabout is fair play,’ Cistrial said with a wicked grin. ‘I too cannot allow my ally to die yet. And in addition,’ he added, leaning close, ‘I have tasted pain and despair many times from another drukhari, and while mortification is not as nourishing, it has the benefit of novelty. Perhaps I shall have to trick you into accidentally complimenting me again.’
The accusation of imperfection stung Dhaemira into action, and she rolled away and up to her feet. ‘Accidentally? I can assure you, I do not make mistakes!’
‘Then your words were honestly meant?’ Cistrial said, and there was the briefest flicker in the icy wall of his composure.
‘Of course!’ Dhaemira said. She saw an opening, and long experience at politicking and preying on the insecurities of others made her strike for it instinctively before she had even considered her words. ‘Why? Do you doubt yourself?’
‘Do not be ridiculous!’ Cistrial snapped. ‘I… am beautiful, and clearly you would be attracted to me!’
‘Then we are in agreement!’ Dhaemira said, even as a small part of her brain wondered what in the name of the Living Muse was going on.
Which is Tau and which is Bungie's Marathon logo
I love circle logos
Circle within circle/crescent gotta be my favorite thing
We good
||Marathon top right, tau bottom right, illuminate left||
||I'm old enough to have played the original marathons||
Well, no mental sync as far as I remember off the top of my head, and a fair amount smaller
I have a love hate relationship with them
They just look cool. Idk how useful they'd be in my army but I want a BEEEEG robot
To me they run counter to tau combat philosophy, which values access to mobility and air deployment. But also but gun robot cool
Like broadsides are largely similar except they can be delivered via Manta to a combat zone
I just like big robot
And having one on my back line is incredibly threatening
My friend will have to spend resources and effort attacking big robot while I rush down midboard, supported by broadsides. He has too many high value targets and not enough fire power
He has two options. Allow the stormsurge to decimate his dudes while trying to pick off my robots moving at mach fuck. Or, try to bring my stormsurge down while being rushed down
Scrungly!
The lowest form of life 😠
assembled some more miniatures today
it's not much but it's progress
finally got around to the hexmark destroyer; it's such a funny datasheet
"Gee, Omaszekh the Worldflayer, how come your phaeron lets you have three shooting phases?"
Beakies my beloved
You have no idea how tempted I am to get a bunch of Mk. VI marines, adn then paint them like RT marines with the slogans all over their armor
The call of the scrungle
I love that in the Ork books I'm reading currently, all space Marines are beakies
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Literally
am i understanding the mustering rules for necrons correctly, in that a unit can have a cryptek, noble, and cryptothralls all attached at once?
four simultaneous leader models seems slightly silly
well cryptothralls are part of the bodyguard but w/e
Yes! It's great
Its not as great as it used to be just because its so many points on units that aren’t necessarily killy
But yeah, thats exactly how it works
its just like we used to be able to stuff a command squad, an ogryn, a regimental attache's, and a psyker to the same 20 man squad of guardsmen
I think this is the most complete shot of that piece of terrain in the back. Or at least one I've found.
Used to see this in so many photos back in the day and it still sticks out in my mind when I think of 40k terrain.
Modified my old Gunlance so now it's compatible with a teeny tiny shield
Select Artiste Princeton are decent value for their money.
I have one in my hand rn lol
18/0 short liner. I just need something for dry brushing
The two brushes I mostly use is some velvetouch that was really nice for a while till it started fraying really bad. To be fair to the brush. I do have a tendency to abuse the bristles
Any preference for a specific dry brush?
Makeup brushes. Any will do, really.
I got exactly what I needed YIPPEE
Saturnine destroyer?
so i want to try and put together some of my own 40k 10e tournament-standard terrain for my group
we have an entire box of branching tree supports from fdm printing that i wanted to use for this project, to create a deep jungle theme
but from my preliminary research, it looks like standard terrain setups overwhelmingly favour two-storey ruins and barricades and walls over anything else, with solid chunks of elevated ground or semi-solid obfuscating shrubbery being very rare
You probably want to use the ruin rules for forests tbh. But it really seems that the game is designed around ruins and basically nothing else
sad!
There is this one iron hands successor chapter who the mechanicum made hoping they would be loyal to them, while they did make em i think they werent allowed to keep them
Im surprised they didnt have enough power within the imperium to be allowed to keep them
Considering they basically run the show
they are very much needed
(for real i love this artist)
i wonder if i could still try and jank the jungle theming together
like
have the raised walkways on ruins represented by suspiciously long and flat cuboid boulders, flanked by short trees on two outward faces
the boulders can't exactly be free-floating, but i wonder how much the space beneath them actually matters anyway
I mean, walkways can just be rope bridges.
i'm exhausting all my options before i just put in artificial structures
putting that aside for a moment: i think i've finally worked out my 2k list
1x Orikan the Diviner (80 pts): Warlord, Staff of Tomorrow
1x Chronomancer (65 pts): Chronomancer's stave
1x Hexmark Destroyer (75 pts): Close combat weapon, Enmitic disintegrator pistols
1x Overlord (105 pts): Resurrection orb, Staff of light, Nether-realm Casket (+20 pts)
Char5: 1x Overlord (105 pts): Resurrection orb, Staff of light, Veil of Darkness (+20 pts)
Char6: 1x Overlord (85 pts): Resurrection orb, Staff of light
Char7: 1x Skorpekh Lord (80 pts): Enmitic annihilator, Flensing claw, Hyperphase harvester
10x Immortals (150 pts): 10 with Close combat weapon, Gauss blaster
20x Necron Warriors (200 pts): 20 with Close combat weapon, Gauss reaper
10x Lychguard (170 pts): 10 with Hyperphase sword and dispersion shield
3x Skorpekh Destroyers (90 pts): 3 with Skorpekh hyperphase weapons
6x Canoptek Scarab Swarms (80 pts): 6 with Feeder mandibles
3x Canoptek Scarab Swarms (40 pts): 3 with Feeder mandibles
1x Canoptek Doomstalker (145 pts): Doomsday blaster, Doomstalker limbs, Twin gauss flayer
1x Canoptek Reanimator (75 pts): 2x Atomiser beam, Reanimator's claws
1x Canoptek Reanimator (75 pts): 2x Atomiser beam, Reanimator's claws
1x Canoptek Spyders (75 pts): Fabricator claw array, Gloom prism, Automaton claws, 2x Particle beamer
1x Canoptek Spyders (75 pts): Fabricator claw array, Gloom prism, Automaton claws, 2x Particle beamer
1x Doom Scythe (230 pts): Armoured bulk, Heavy death ray, Twin tesla destructor```
the core is two big shithouse stat-bricks to sit on midfield objectives: orikan + nether-realm casket overlord + 20 warriors + reanimator on one side, and veil of darkness overlord + 10 lychguard + chronomancer + reanimator on the other
the doom scythe and doomstalker provide anti-tank capacity, the skorpekh lord and scarab-spyders blocks push flanks, and the 10-immortals-overlord-hexmark group just sorta wander around the map doing odd-jobs wherever they're needed
Win a close match today against a bully Boys ork player
My void dragon Shard face tanked a full size meganob squad that he had no right surviving. I think that won me the game
I did use a secret mission
But I think I honestly could have scored more if I hadn't
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MVP aside from the void dragon
was a hexmark destroyer
just spitting attacks out all over the place
my tesla immortals didn't have the impact i thought they would tbh
"and flew under an archway that had apparently been carved to look like it was made out of lots of humie skulls, unless it actually was made out of humie skulls. You never could tell with humies. They didn’t at all like it if you tried to take their skulls, but then they still went and did weird things with them anyway, like make them float around and carry guns."
Wow the world eaters one is amazing
Hexmark destroyers are very good. Totel underrated
Probably not a thing you take three of anymore but god does the one put in work every time
in fairness i was blasting a full squad of nobs, but man, i really expected more out of the immortals
dis is the list im runnin
im thinking of ditching the deathmarks for somthing else, they've been kind of lackluster, rarely dying but rarely accomplishing much
the skorpeks have actually worked pretty good, but they're very quick to get targeted
Deathmarks are very take out characters
And unless you get those precision kills quick it feels meh
Great scoring in hypercrypt since you can just pick em up and plop em down
But. I’ll be real beyond that they don’t do that much
my discord isn't loading pictures properly for some reason
i have guard opponents in this league, so i feel like the ability to snipe WILL come in handy
just hasnt yet against marines and orks
precision is very matchup depending
gsc hate it for instance, we love our attached characters
Current line up is
Me - Necrons - Hypercrypt
WE - Zerker Warband
Votann - baseline detach, forget its name
Guard - Recon Detachment
Guard - Bridgehead Strike
SM - SW - Champions of Fenris
Tau - don't know the detach
Orks - Bullyboys
Votann only have one detachment (that people play)
glad to hear hexmark is good I love that model
I’m not sure if any of those are super character heavy
Bridgehead can be super worth actually, they’re lower on order givers and you can snipe out special weapons that give you the hardest time
wait does precision let me pick special weapons guys too? I thought it was just character models
You know, ignore me
I’m not used to running units with models that matter besides attached yet
I think I'm most afraid of the zerker warband, Angron isn't a vehicle so the Void Dragon isn't gonna be its best for that fight
Or the Votann player
I thought the orks were gonna overrun me, be we managed to tank the double waaagh
Was pretty scared at first though
Precision specifically lets you target attached character models
So it doesn't even affect the one character in a command squad if the command squad isn't attached to another unit
Yeah it works the way I think it does, that's generally what I use it for. You can't use it to ignore Lone Op
Angron has been pretty severely nerfed in the Codex, don't play too afraid of him
The triple 6 rez only brings him back at 50% wounds
It should ignore lone op TBH
It'd be way more important if it could, and if it could pick the models it wounds. Maybe too potent. You'd certainly see way more precision in every list that's for sure
I remember back in 9e it didn't let you pick the dude, because the death jester specifically let you pick the dude? Or was that 8e
The thing is that good, cost effective snipers are rare
My fear with Angry Ron is that I don't really have much screening, and I don't think any of my units can Tango with the bruiser on even standing except the Void Dragon
The monolith DOES have a boat load of wounds though
I remember eliminators being top of class for snipers for a while
I think the vindicare might be atm?
The skratos is hilarious but isn't actually that great of a sniper
(I still bring him on my tts Mechanicus lists because he's fun)
Because Angron’s a monster, you just run wraiths into him and Start Blasting
Wraiths pistols & melee + monolith shooting will do it, especially if you can burn the opponent’s CP to stop a challenge for a turn or so
Weird question, for beginners, is it better to play elite or trend towards playing horde? I figure when they're new, having loads of tools might be better than raw quality
Makes the choice to do actions a lot less compromising
hordes are monetarily expensive and harder to build and paint
usually the best option for new players is not to play tournaments
pick a factuon yo like and get units you think are cool and play for fun
warhammer is more like half way between mtg commander and dungeons and dragons , than it is like a competative starcraft or sonethinf
Horde is much harder to build and paint for a new player but a little easier to play
Hordes are somewhat cheaper if you play something that has good combo boxes for them (Guard) but yeah
The exception is like custodes who are elite (tanky) not elite (glass cannons)
I suspect though that this question might be for someone playing over TTS to try out armies
TTS, watching others play, reading rules, and seeing what seems fun to paint are kinda the best ways to do all that
When I started I was split between tsons, death guard, aeldari, and tau.
Tsons I saw how much I didn't want to paint those stripes. Death guard I realized I wanted to do tank spam and that wasn't supported pre codex. Tau was shockingly expensive for crisis suits.
Everyone hating on painting stripes
I need to buy those Goblin Hobbies stampers
apparently death guard have a tank spam detach now
yeah this is the case, its all TTS, so money cost is a little less of a concern
a frien of mine is playing a termie heavy list in the league, i ended up winning beacuse his positional play wasn't great; as he lost squads he just didn't have the tools to maintain control and i won via choking him out
Death Guard have detachments for a lot of things and they’re just about all cranked to hell lmao
I think uhhh Mortarion’s Hammer is the tank one, have seen people enjoying it around here
I should get my hands on more kroot and vespids
Auxiliary detachment does look kinda neat
Just, most of the other detachments feels like you're waiting forever to get your detachment rule, feeling too rushed to get the most out of your fleeting detachment rule. Having to drop a million dollars on crisis suits because those things are 100 dollars each not including characters, plus you're playing a dangerous game with having to be 9 fucking inches from the enemy. Which keep in mind, any decent melee will fuck you up. Or you're spending a million on Kroot. At least with Aux...I can run suits, kroot, vespids, and have a decent rule with okay enhancement and okay stratagems
paying for proxies for crisis suits is fine imo
the experimental detach is great when you want to play suits but dont want to play up close and personal
but personally i quite like the aux detach
Yeah, not to be the person but I think any professional takes away from people just trying to enjoy the game
With new players, have fun with your guys (broad term) cause they're your special little army men
I like the look of it a lot
I'm not the biggest Kroot fan because I like big robot not predator meets ork meets tyranid
Plus, the detachment buffs your suits with the improved AP, and gives you a bit of survivability on your scoring units
If I do Kauyon, what unit should farsight lead? I'm hesitant to say sunforgers, because i have 3 rail rifle broadsides and a Hammerhead. Plus the many seeker missiles
Then again. Can never complain about having too much anti tank. Because sunforgers are just scary
Fireknives? Plasma and missiles go brrr
Plus 1 to wound on knives is also nice
I think that might be better. I need better anti elite because aside from sheer output of fire from a Coldstar leading Starscythes with all burst, I ain't got much lol
Got a funny plan with the Starscythes actually. Coldstar with high output and 3 burst cannons. Exemplar of Kauyon for Patient Hunter on BR2. Got a fireblade cadre with Through Unity Devastation. Drop in turn two, 44 attacks + gun drones. Get that sweet sustained hits 2 and lethal
I think I brought enough firepower. Got two riptides with burst cannons to just be a menace and pull aggro. Rail rifle and Hammerhead on home objective. Missile-sides rushing alongside the riptides. Acting like Mont'ka but actually running Kauyon
If you run plasma fire knives, he's good on em, but he does want to to be very close
Kroot are also real good for backline screening so that pesky elites don't drop into your broadsides and hammerhead. Also gives you access to sticky objective
Anyone got a good source of chainaxes for Horus heresy marines? Other than the phobos on the GW site
Had a bit of a google around Etsy but there wasn't much choice
If you have access to a resin printer there's a bountiful amount of chainaxe STLs out there.
https://bitsofwar.com/gore-legion/238-gore-legion-chain-axes-right.html If not, there's Kromlech.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126993825460 and random ebay sellers
If you dig around you might find bitz sellers for khornate chainaxes or, in a pinch, ork ones.
That's the issue...I'll be against... Deathguard 😭😭😭
I CAN'T be close
i mean, youre gonna get close
I knowww
Just wish I didn't have to be so close
I could do missiles. The +1 to wound makes up for the low strength and AP
Cause more chance for sustained
check farsight's rule tho, dont think the +1 to w is at all ranges
Naw. All plasma is prolly best. He could be my anti elite. My friend always deep strikes my back line br3
I know it's only 9". But still. Missiles have more chance to hit sustained. But it doesn't matter too much. I decided plasma is definitely best because it's 6 attacks with like 3 damage. That's a lot and can definitely punish his terminators or plague marines
My only concern is damage not spilling over
DG Terminators have I think wound 4?
Oh well. It is what it is. It actually doesn't matter what am I on about
My friend is in for a surprise :)
I described to him the list like, Slightly impatient hunters. Shadowsun and her twin riptide sons. Japanese high speed rails. kaboom
Which translates to, rush down the midboard, Shadowsun giving rerolls to the riptides, aggressive as possible, many rail cannons, big missiles
I wanted to try the aggressiveness of Montka but on Kauyon
the thing about kauyon is that depending on your opponent, it can be prudent to use scout/infiltrators to shove your opponents into their own deployment zone early to buy you time
cause you can't really wait for round 3 to get active
you just have to hold your decisive strikes for that moment
as far as wasted damageo n termies; its honestly worth whil to always force them onto their invulnerable and to remove termies
lots of value in each dead termie
Oooh a ghost keel would be super helpful
That infiltrate and being and to nuhuh damage twice
valuable piece to use to tank a bit, i think you can access some kroot who are a bit more sacrificial
Thanks homie!
I might give my Fireknives a marker drone
I just remembered that Kauyon has a stratagem that allows the spotter to get some of the benefits of being guided. Plus commander Farsight makes it a free stratagem cause he's leading them
Extra situational spotter. In case my smaller guys can't afford to spot
i almost never give marker drones to em unless you expect a vehicle or covered infantry and a solid angle; cause they can spot without it
its just if you want to let em help someone else ignore cover
True. Having an emergency spotter would be nice tho. But yeah, I'm running like three stealth suits I don't think it's necessary
Would you say Commissar cain would be liked in a catachan regiment? I ask cause i heard they frag their commissars a lot
Cain would do everything in his power to not end up in a Catachan regiment.
Which is to say he'd end up in one and somehow, despite everything, get grudging respect from them due to a hilarious chain of mishaps.
That or if they tried, some Rube Goldberg ass nonsense would occur
Throw a grenade, it bounces off a tree branches, dinks his bolter making it fires, rolls off down his chain sword while gathering speed, uses the small crater in the ground to ramp up and detonate in the face of the soldier who threw it
Or something along those lines
I should reach the Cain books. They sound fun
Oh I forgot he doesn't use a bolt pistol does he? Anyways you get the point. Some bullshittery would happen if someone tried
Nope, laspistol since it’s lighter and carries a lot more ammo
Also it's more accurate
i read 2 of the Cain books
Also has lacks the err moderate recoil of the bolt pistol
There are bolt pistols made for more normal humans but the big thing with laspistols, at least for Cain, is their light weight and reliability.
He's a duelist, after all. Naturally he'd want something light for his off-hand.
Do we think he's even still alive post the fall of Cadia?
Hard to tell! I wouldnt be surprised if they brought him back tho, considering he's very popular
"warp storm"
Yup
one of the beautiful things about the 40K setting
"this is on the other side of the galaxy from where this character is supposed to be and three hundred years before their story is canonically established to have started how are they here" "warp storm" "oh okay"
He did retire in M42, working as a professor. This doesn't preclude him from being pulled back into active duty but by that point he'd be at least 230 years old.
Isn't cains last stand about him getting pulled into the 13th black crusade?
People complained about everything happening in m41/2 (seemingly forgetting that a thousand years is a long fucking time) but now the timelines foreward a lotta shit is left behind
Like say yarrick and cain
I felt like that was fewer people talking about everything happening in M41 and more how from like all of 3rd until the Black Crusade campaign everything was taking place in the last 99x.xxx.M41 period
a lotta folk forget that yarick was like... actually old by the time 2nd armaggeddon started
i am sad theres no character fitting his shoes though
Yup, and he's explicitly pretty old then. Into his second century, I think.
His most recent published book, Vainglorious, is set right as he's been offered retirement and is trying to - and then gets dragged into serious misadventure.
And then at the end Vail drags him off with "we got lots to do!", seconds the space marine he was hanging with to the Deathwatch, etc.
Is unclear if we'll get more novels, though there's obviously potential
As to Cain and Catacahns - be makes a very big deal, repeatedly, that his being kind isn't just a mask, it's highly practical - Commissars who live up to the stereotype have a way of dying heroically several miles from the front line, in his words.
And we see him both drilling into his own commissarial cadets that you can't just rely on "fear will keep the men in line. Fear and my bolt pistol!", as well as some other Commissars he deals with.
Though it's also spelled out by Vail that he's exceptional (personal head canon is because he actually cares, despite the protests contrary), and many Commissars fall short of his mark.
So I think Catacahns would depend on have they heard of him?
If they've heard of him: hijinks to see if he's all puff and no fire.
If they've not heard of him: immense suspicion, a few 'ooops, sorry sir!" The moment one of them misinterprets something he did
Officially, he’s been mistakenly declared KIA so many times that there is a standing rule to just stop even bothering to do so
So, on paper he’s probably gonna be alive forever
his grave, to witch he was laid to rest with a full military parade reads "MIA"
they covered that fucker in grave dirt and still couldnt for sure put him on the count
Kelermorph really is That Bitch
3 for 3 on eldar/drukhari players hearing ‘you should be afraid of the cowboy’ and never believing me
Only to turn around and punt like 250pts into them one turn later to make sure the cowboy dies
tried to build a wolfcav list for aos.... ooh there's really not a lot oh they really want me to play full goblin soup....
looks like it will be spearhead only for this army
Kelermorph, Hero of the Imperium!
My friend runs a GSC army and didn't put much stock in it since its rules were half-way bupkis, until the 10th ed codex
He might like Kelly for its rules, but I like Kelly for itself 😌
Honestly its one of the best lone ops in the game
do that
There's no other Drone to give them
Ive not got a lot of use out of them honestly, how’s you get them to work
Playing necrons v world eaters today, my melee contingent may not be up to the task
Hehehe I can't wait to play Kauyon like Mont'ka
Why wait to get sustained? Rush in, as fast as possible. Bait the enemy into the midboard only to drop behind and hit em on both ends with sustained
Strike hard and fast. Then clean up :)
I fucking LOVE Tau GRAAAA!
the accursed cultists kit is rather odd
like theres a whole ass model on the sprue
no parts or nothing just 1 entire lady
One of the torments also fits together REALLY weirdly
ROTATION
Aaa
I love the rogal dorn tank
It just looks fun!
Unsure if the imperial fists appreciate it tho
I could see the Space wolves liking that there's a tank named after leman russ 
They used to be able to take them iirc
cool!
In 3e they got leman russ executioners (the plasma ones)
Oooh, were they space marine sized?
No just really cozy inside

Its unclearr
But thats kinda why the concept was abandoned I think
Though back then space marines werent modelled that much taller than anyone else
We probably dont have any quotes confirming it
but thats enough for me to believe they do like the tank!
Oh no wait it was the exterminator apparently? Mustve gotten confused somewhere along the way
Just says they have a handful and are the only chapter to do so
The leman russ exterminator! Just autocannons not big plasma
Just read something kinda funny, says space wolves hate jump packs so when a mission actually requires their use they give them to blood claws and then turn around and admonish them for it once the mission is complete
What's a blood claw?
Weirdly the way it worked mechanically was you take a blood claw bike pack (which became swiftclaws) and replace the bikes with jump packs. But they kept the 3-8 unit size
Blood claws are space wolf ‘scouts’. Space wolves never started putting aspirants in combat before their black carapace was ready so theyre just power armoured newbies
In squads of up to twenty. N they just wanna go killin
All the machismo of a newly minted super soldier with nobody over their shoulder to tell them to calm the hell down.
Well sometimes they have a wolf guard telling them to calm down but yeah
Oh yeah back to the leman russ; it was BS 4 which implies it did have a marine inside
Still find it really funny that csm 🤝 space wolves; elite models having a model cap across unit slots with two options for deploying them

Space Wolves also have their own actual scouts that serve the same general purpose as scouts in other chapters
Except the Space Wolf ones are fully trained and enhanced marines instead of initiates.
You have to have been both a Blood Claw and a Grey Hunter to be a Wolf Scout
Marines out of armour could prolly fit into a leman russ (without much room to spare)
They finally arrived
Bad news is three of the heads were incorrect
(i didnt ask for these)
Did you get them as an extra or are you missing 3 other heads?
Oh shit
I got 4 extra heads
A head start on the next order
FESH
A FSH
These look pretty good
FEESH
We saved top of round 3, but my opponent burned 2 objectives round 2 on scorched earth, really messing with my long game approach to necrons
Folks, does this look heavy enough?
Real
IT
Might I recommend Dredge Marines on Etsy if you play Death Guard?
They've got infantry, warlords, all sorts of cool stuff :>
Nuh uhhh
I could definitely see renaming everything in a DG detach to be spooky and nautical
Heh. Depth Guard
You won me over, I'll look into printing these for a small Killteam at some point.
:]
Shame the plaguecaster is a seperate package from the normal stuf
Yeaaaa
Oh no i'm just going to buy their 3Dstl's from their site
O i seeeee
Tide masters are the most elite warriors of the Dredge. They wear a modified version of the ancient ammonite pattern armour of their deep shroud brothers, designed to withstand the heaviest of frontline warfare. Tide masters take an array of deadly ranged weaponry into battle from dual rifle combination weapons to heav
Real
(trying to hamfist "fall" into the original reply and can't make it work)
I love kitbashing graah
Can space marines get away with dropping an inquisitor?
I imagine it varies
Well im sure an "accidental" bolter shot to the skull is justified
Might get sent to do penance with the deathwatch
Not if they dont know you're the one that shot him
Inquisitors are very high ranked, so it'd be pretty hard to get away with it
Political machinations to get an inquisitor out of their hair seem more likely generally
The Dark Angels have been the thing which goes bump in the night longer than the Inquisition has existed
(though Space Marines are also important and closed knit enough that it's hard for an inquisitor to seriously get in their hair in the first place)
It's one of the those On Paper v In Reality things
You tell the 9 foot tall walking tank he has to listen to you
Along with all his friends
Hmm, am I right in feeling like how important a given inquisitor is, is very inconsistent? Like sometimes they are commandeering an entire sector and other times they are doing significant legwork by themselves
Make sure you bump off only the unpopular inquisitors
It depends on how well they play the politics game with who’s in their corner
The rosette isnt everything
But also as has been mentioned with regards to inquisitor vs rogue trader authority previously, when you’re just one guy with a fancy badge far away from anyone aside some very scary men with guns opposed to your opinions, the on-paper authority starts to give way to considerations of “will anyone find my body or piece together my last 72 hours of movements”
Harpoon through the back and drag em into the fog
They'll never be seen again and there wont be anything left as evidence
Heeheeheehaw
Or the Ordo the inquisitor is from getting a deeply sad note about how Inquisitor Pushy tragically died a hero when he took a bolter round to the skull leading the mission
(It was very odd how that Tyranid hive guard had one, but that’s for the Biologis to figure out, not us simple space marines)
No you fool, if they "die" off screen, they might come back in a later scene or sequel
Well the funny thing is my army uses tyranid weapons Monster-Hunter style
So its reasonable to believe that a warrior impaled the Inquisitor
Yeah, you better see that guy explode in a fountain of gore to be sure, any ambiguity means he will be back
"But sire, a tyranid did it! My client is innocent"
Honestly this is 40k, even if he explodes on screen he might be back.
Truly the chaos way
Yeah true
HE'S CHAOS
FUCKIN' RUSH 'IM LADS
Grimskull: I ain't that easy to kill
Bring my man back, I’m sure he could get better from plasma to the face
Inquisitors are often chaos enough it's mildly surprising none of them have models for chaos armies
Why not? He's a fungi. 
“No I’m totally not chaos aligned, I just have a daemonhost as my only remaining friend, use horrific warp powers, and have broken ties with all of my friends and organizations”
It’s very funny how ||Eisenhorn just becomes the guy from the first book, honestly pretty good parallels ||
''I am using this ''Book of Flesh and Daemonic Hymns'' for the good of humanity, honestly.''
You kinda don’t think about it until you reread them
Inquisitors must never get their hands on Markers from Dead Space
"everyone else who used this book became horribly corrupted by chaos. But I won't be"
Oh yeah they’re making Unitology day one
40k fans think Markers wouldn't last in IoW
No the Inquisitors would use them
''Obviously I am built different''
necromorphs intensify
It probably depends who gets to them first lol
“No bro I’m gonna be the one who doesn’t descend into madness or become a flash abomination, everyone else just did it wrong”
AdMech probably would also use them
true but I do think it would darkly hilarious if a Inquisitor just up and thinks they could handle it and gets bodied
Sorry I missed this till now - your lone ops are all action scorers and trading pieces. Deep Strike em and just hold for stuff like Locus, Engage on All Fronts or Behind Enemy Lines
I think the only thing making it less hilarious is how it is virtually certain it is lol
I mean the Inquisition and AdMech already did Tyranid Jurassic Park, and ended up making at least one new strain and all getting eaten lol
Though maybe the dramatic irony would add to it
There’s worth in deploying a reductus up somewhere in regular deploy but only on flanks you know the enemy is going to try avoiding
I forget which IA book it is, but the subtitle is something like The Anphelion Project
3 iirc
But Kelermorph being full BS reactive shoot and a reactive move, they got very little issue killing most of a cultist squad or flesh hounds or assorted uppy downie scoring units solo and then peeling off around a corner
When has an Inquisitor ever seen a terrible power beyond mortal reckoning and not gone "I am strong willed enough to use this to save the Imperium"
Oh no oops 3 is taros campaign . Anphelion project is 4
Taros was the Elysians/Space French, right?
Both!
No I meant that as in that’s what the elysians are lol
Deep sea marines cool
elysians in taros and super elysians in anphelion
Oh interesting
Regiment 99
Oh right, they had bio-mods
A general random chapter? Not so much. A first founding chapter alot more likely
I suddenly remembered them once you said that
Yey
It highly depends how they did it and what kind of a dude they were
If it’s deniable or “oh, no, he left three weeks ago, we haven’t seen him since” and the Inquisitor isn’t well-liked or supported, your chances of getting away with it go up
Or if the marines do politicking well
I mean theyre space marines
The worst that can happen is they get put on a pentitent crusade
Depending on the guys connections, it’s possible they get declared traitors
You can engage in open rebellion against the imperium and still just get sent on a penitent crusade if you dont go off the deep eend
Though maybe if the guys connections are particularly vindictive
Yeah that’s what I mean
Yeah but why kelermorph? Reductus exists and often does better
Sanctus is more of a missile than a lone op
Reductus somewhat better into chaff and monsters, kelermorph slaughters marines and xenos elites
Really, doesn’t it only desk 1damage with attacks though?
Host is popping out with Sustained, on average you’re swinging 7 shots
and then a reactive move to go back into lone op or around a corner
If the mine doesn’t kill what the reductus wants to die, she’s very very dead
Could be my store’s a lot of elves but I’m getting much more mileage out of kelermorph who’s picking up 3-4 banshees per swing
What was that one chapter..... the atral lions?
There is in cannon a chapter that got on the shit list of an inquisitor and they reported to his inquisitor lord and then bad stuff started happening to that chapter
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Celestial_Lions Celestial, but yeah.
The Celestial Lions are a Space Marine Chapter created in the 38th millennium. They have a long and glorious history. Recently the Chapter has come into conflict with elements of the Inquisition, with terrible consequences.
ork snipers, helluva thing
they're extremely scary
because if you start saying things like "I don't think ork snipers are a thing" you know what happens to you?
ork snipers

I usually play biosanctic so that makes more sense
Didn't even mention "the factions of Chaos would also use them", and Inquisition, AdMech, and Chaos are just the big groups who would decide to use them before being affected by the mind stuff
My wife has a dredge marine collection they're great
what's a dredge marine? 
would hte silent king getting the noble keyword make him too strong with the obeisance phalanx?
Also is obeisance phalanx pretty much big melee?
I be unironically stratagizing like a commander prepping for a casual 2.5k game 😭
Tbf. I feel like Tau needs to be treated like that. People know your weaknesses. My plan is to bait and punish
I love stratagizing. Makes me feel like I'm prepared. But I know I'm likely to be stomped so :3
I wanna be a better 40k player. But Im mostly just playing for fun, not to win
Winning is fun >:)
2.5k is so many points oof
2k games are already like 4-5hrs
I mean 2k is like the default amount, 1k is for a quick game but not often do I see people go over 2k
I wanted to do 3k but he didn't wanna :(
Tbf, he doesn't have like 3k pts. But he's super close, so it woulda been closer to like 2.8k
I'm not done collecting. I wanna get way more so I have variety of options
I need like, two ghostkeels, way more crisis suits, more firewarriors, kroot of many varieties, vespid, and a stormsurge lol
Oh yeah. Imma drop like 3 trillion dollars only for Tau to be nerfed because they're not SM and GW needs to sell John Ultra, a new primaris lieutenant and Intercessors 2™️
The thing about Tau is people know the weakness, and then hyper focus on it. They also often do not know their strengths, thinking with outdated assumptions around Tau static gun lines, when Tau is actually hyper mobile.
ughh putting together this psychomancer is going to kill me
I want to go back to push fit 😭
Well, i now need to make a chapter master for my successor chapter
Im thinking going Davy Jones esque
He has the triarch keyword
Cause
He is the triarch
Saw someone saying emperor's sword can kill daemons for good, can anyone confirm that?
It can
And burn nurgle's garden
Neat!
it can also kill demons for evil
i think abbadons sword is like a fragment of the emperor
or its the part of him that became the dark king
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Drach'nyen Nah, he's just the first murder so he's stupid powerful.
Drach'nyen, the End of Empires and the Echo of the First Murder, is an ancient daemon of pure, unadulterated malice currently bound in the daemon sword of the same name wielded by Abaddon the Despoiler.[2]
I think Emps just forced it into a weapon form for convenience because Drach'nyen could then be thrown the fuck away from him.
Wasn't there a big web way showdown with drachnyen with the custodes and the emperor?
Yes, and Emps shoved the sword with drachy in it through a custodian, them told the custodian to run.
Given a figure in gold give good ol Abaddon the sword, this was absolutely one of Emp's patented good ideas.
"the Emperor left the Golden Throne to cover the retreat and confront the daemon Drach'nyen. The daemon took the form of a Stone Epoch war-chief, impaling the Emperor and claiming it would be His death. The Emperor ripped the daemon, now in the form of the daemon sword, from His body and hurled it at Ra, impaling him and binding it within him. As the last Imperial forces retreated from the webway, He ordered Ra to run."
'Who is this?’ he demanded.
‘Someone with working surface-to-orbital defence batteries, and very little patience. Identify yourself, shithead.’
Civilians sassing chaos space Marines is always good
(for the record, the civies make it out shaken, but okay, while the CSM has to run off because it turns out the surface to orbital batteries weren't an idle threat)
Nothing like painting up a scrungly chaos spawn.
Love to see it
Yoooo that fucking rocks
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Oh, I like that a lot more than the default colour scheme
Agreed
It's very pretty
Tyranids are so cool
The more Thing-like a chaos spawn is, the cooler it is
Chaos Spawn or Drukhari experiment, you decide
It looks cool!
Im thinking it might be a good idea to get my hands on a hivestorm box
For vespids? Theyre seperately available now
So. With these skellyfriends, I will have a complete AoS army and a complete 40k army. What's next for my plastic Crack addiction? HH? A second army for either? A bunch of terrain? Rehab?
An army to fight the other armies
So that you can do cool board set ups and take pictures of them
And imagine big battles
Also so that you can rope people into playing the other army
Legions Imperialis
Tinyhammer
Hivestorm is 280 dollars
But brutal and cunning is 170
Difference is, no mat, and a buncha stuff. But, there still is terrain. But hivestorm also has the books and tokens and more equipment
Whats your actual goal here
If its having everything for kill team hivestorm is prob the way to go
My friend and I are splitting it
My friend and I both really wanna get more into Killteam and I want vespids. It's also better terrain and equipment and the core book and op cards and tokens
It gives us terrain for more than just Killteam as well. I bought the vermintide box a while ago and I get, not the same vibe, but something similar. The core book and a buncha stuff, made playing spearhead SO much more easier and fun. It's a better investment. I have no interest in orks and ratlings
Equipment models is necessary for stuff like barricades and ladders
I think we both decided on hivestorm. Better investment over time
Swagadocious. Time to speed build EVERYTHING for tomorrow lmfao
Omfg thank god my dad was a rave dude
Friends and family discount cause the owners knew my dad from school and his rave days
Uhh 250 dollars...for a 280 dollar box...
30 bucks is 30 bucks
It woulda been like 300+ with tax
So it's more like 50+ dollar
Emperor bless my LGS
Genuinely so happy omfg YIPPEEE
Boy in glad I don't play wizzards
what do u think that is
Goblin,,,,
A sorcerer
And depending on who you ask, a twink
Rate the base 👁️
Personally it's to tall
That's because the mini is short.
Here it is next to an Apothecary Biologis
The biologos has a plastic rock, he has a cork rock, if he isn't pinned through the bottom the leverage is gonna have rip the cork at a jostle
Mm, good point
I only just started using corkboards for basing so
He has a Neurothrope shield tho :>
Aside from pinning, I also recommend giving the cork a wash of either 50/50 white glue/water mix or (even better) 50/50 mod podge/water. This makes the cork a lot tougher and less prone to chipping off.
I dont have either of those :(
They're cheap and easily found, thankfully. Any craft store will have them, but even big box stores like Walmart have them in stock or even Dollar Tree.
Both are highly recommended, but for white glue/PVA do not get the ones that say "school/for school use" because they're watery and weak and nothing sticks to them. Elmer's Glue-All is the go-to. Mod Podge, basically any will do but I use the "matte" ones.
I dont have any stores nearby that sells it
THE HOLY SOURCE OF ALL BASING, LORD ELMERS
Amazon, then? Or whatever online store you use I suppose.
I'll see to it eventually
For now though i'm happy with JUST the cork
If it becomes a pain in the ass then i'll get some modpodge/elmers
Fair.
When you do get some pva glue, also: sand! It's a necessary component for damn near any basing.
Right
happy day
There's human sized bolters right?
How do they differ from an astartes bolter?
Does the astartes one have a bigger caliber?
Smaller in size, lighter, and more manageable for regular humans. They still have a hell of a kick but it won't snap your wrists off when firing.
Rules-wise they're the same but there's some lore about them being less powerful--somewhere between lasgun and astartes bolter in terms of impact and penetration, if I'd hazard a guess.

Astartes bolter are the de-facto type, so anything below that has a smaller caliber. Exactly how much isn't told though.
Fair enough 
The darktide ones are like .700
How big is that? 
Standard bolter caliber is .75, though Phobos pattern bolters were .70. Admittedly made during the Unification Wars.
That barrel is like 8 times bigger than it needs to be
Y'know, Battlefield Trophies could make for an awesome Zombie army
Like. An army focused around undead units.
(Probably Death Guard)
Nothing's more horrifying than shooting a World Eater in the skull, only for him to keep shambling towards you
Would khorne protect Kharn from Lucius Curse?
I imagine lucius would still manage to come back to life if slaneesh wanted
they're just both stuck in the same body in their get along shirt
Didnt Khorne throw Kharn across the warp?
Wasnt that Skarbrand?
No worries!
i imagine powerful enough entities can be immune to lucius' curse because its a curse brought on by a greater power
If Lucius is killed by Kharn then K’bandha and Shalaxi Helbane have to fight to see whether the armor works or not
And the EC aren't sure how Luci is coming back
sometimes through the body of the one who killed him
Sometimes he's just back
What probably happens is they both respawn but respectfully distant from one another
Kharn respawns as Lucius and Lucius respawns as Kharn
Freaky Friday 40,000
Freakus Manus of the Freaky Hands
Born to partttyyyyy!
I would simply believe Kharn’s smart enough to look at Lucius’s track record and not play those games
He’d probably just pull a Bane in Knightfall on him
I think Space Marines can just get better from that on their own
Yeah but he’d like, really do it
And anyhow, the point is that he won 
Just walking away leaving Lucius knowing he lost
Kharn is a shockingly cunning combatant, there's an Azrael focused book where he's being hunted by Kharn on a boarded strike cruiser and he doesn't mess around
He's Not Falling For It
a slaanesh cult leader almost made him cry (from remembering the good old days) once
Alternatively, do Lucius like Monty Python’s Black Knight
Lmao yeah
the same short story reveals his helmet got a built in kill-counter, wish I still had collection with it 
Wasn’t that the one that said it had topped out, or am I misremembering
sadly can't remember, was probably 10 years since I read it, it was from "let the galaxy burn" which also had a lot other interesting short stories like "chaos army invading from space marine VR sim" and "marines VS cavemen controlled dinosaurs"
would you say he's brutally cunning as a combatant perhaps
I think he's cunningly brutal tbh
K'bandha? Shalaxi? Who?
The biggest Bloodthirster and the Biggest Keeper of Secrets
Ooooh
(though it's Skarbrand who is the one that duels Shalaxi)
Thanks Voy
I keep forgetting if Keeper of Secrets is a Slaanesh daemon or Tzeentch daemon
No right it's Slaanesh, the Tzeentchian counterpart is a Lord of Change
As a certified Tzeentchian, I lowkey feel like the Slaaneshi name being 'Keeper of Secrets' is some real portfolio plagiarism type shit lmao
This is part of why I have the concept of a slaanesh-tzench warband who gave a Keeper of Change & Lord of Secrets around as well
lmao
Also because the idea of heavily tzench influenced noise marines & perfection-through-change seems like a rocking concept
(that and it's the sort of thing that might irritate lore purists, but there's nothing stopping hybrid warbands - it's just another expression of chaos undivided - tbh I'm surprised we don't see them more often.
I mean
If you have guys worshiping all the gods at the same time
Why not just 2 at the same time?
Exactly. And cults worshiping weird combos is just fun
khornate & tzeentchian t4t chaos warband leaders
'but khorne hates psy-'
shut the fuck up
Khorne does not hate psykers
He hates sorcerers
There is a fucking difference
i love the khornates you specificly just turn up to be defenders in seiges
because thats where its the bloodiest
The other 3s stuff is all Slaanesh, Slaanesh is among other things the plagiarism god
Let the galaxy burn
I really liked the subreddit for khorne that went full hard your trans rights.
But sorcerers are still weak cowards and will be killed.
Ahhh I lost to the World Eaters, scorched earth really got me bad
Opponent burned 2 objectives by end of round 2, I was too scared of being charged to stop it
From then on I was on the back foot and he kept the pressure on, got locked out pretty much
Was a fun match though
Wraithguard also have some silly ap3 flamers
was it the big monsters that bricked you in or the blocks of infantry?
Infantry ultimately did me in, though I never hurt the land Raider
I erased angron before he could do anything with death rays
But my void dragon Shard got mercced by raw number of attacks from a full zerk squad
My monolith took 2 turns to drop for the eight bound and land Raider
It was unfortunate for me, but 20 stack warrior squad folds hard to zerks lead by kharne
Even with orikan's 4++
warrior blobs are not very good at winning melee unfortunately
definitely all right for bogging down less killy units
berzerkers are like 4 attacks per model right
5 on the charge if its berserker warband as the detach
goodbye warriors...
Okay so
I just finished a game using Kauyon
If you can survive, sustained hits 2 is nice. If you can't, oof
I won barely. I battleshocked a tank with photon grenades from a 3" charge. He got battleshocked, rolled a 4, down to 2" oof, then he couldn't command reroll because battleshocked. He had 2 dudes on obj with OC 1, I had oc 3. Thanks couldn't hold obj because oc 0. Pulled the be on objective, fell back farsight onto that object. Also pulled kill dudes, did that. Scraped by BARELY
Fuck, I deadly demised TWO of my TWO devilfish! TWICE. THIS HAS BEEN FOUR TIMES IN A ROW BTW. I DID THAT AGAIN LAST GAME
I decided I'm not running devilfish anymore lmfao
I am just cursed. So I'm using the flying bases for three hammerheads
https://bsky.app/profile/opensketchbook.bsky.social/post/3lqj5iew2us2b
i've been doing science
I'm thinking I replace my skorpeks with triarch Praetorians
Do I want a doomsday ark or a trio of heavy destroyers with the big gauss
As a long range punch
And I think I get rid of the Tomb blades
Not sure if I want a bit more melee punch
My Tomb blades are often not decisive
I might be using them wrong, but that's still an argument to swap em out
i need to buy all of these weird little guys for the CSM
though personally as an academic myself i personally disagree with the idea that perrii is simply convergent evolution of the dual lense but infact cohabitated with the copplestone and simply outcompeted them
"after her arranged marriage to a different house had come apart when they’d suffered a terminal case of the Ordo Hereticus."
Terrible diseases that. I hear it's catching
|| Primork||
Sure does! Also that's the good stuff.
Also, where was this post? Can't see it on any of the normal subreddits
This is from Twitter
It’s ok
Personally, I yeeted mine into the abyss when musk took over, but you know, I ain't judging.
Blocks supposedly cost Twitter money so I’m in it for the long game
Huh, interesting. I wonder how that works out
Maintaining the list will cost money and it might be more expensive to calculate them out something
🤔 I wonder how expensive it would be really though
Afaik it’s because of extra stuff the algorithm has to do around it or something
Prime Orks is an Imperial designation given to hyper-evolved members of the Ork race.[2]
The end result of a extremely large and successful Waaagh!, Prime Orks display increased intelligence, technological capacity, and psychic power as well as massive physical size. One Prime Ork is described as approaching the size of a hab-block and fully enc...
Reminds me. There's an artist i follow who did a series of 'Prime-Orks' for 'Da Big Backstabbin'
Gore-Gar of Da Wyrd Bearerz
'Not the cogboys?’ Chetta asked, rubbing her chin. It would be just like the Adeptus Mechanicus for them to have found a strange machine, made lots of excited clicking noises over it, managed to turn it on and only worried too late about whether or not it was going to tear a hole in the very fabric of reality.
Anyway, I've been on a real binge of 40k novels recently, and anything by Mike Brooks is great
Highly recommend
I think the weakest thing he's done that I've read is Lion, soon of the forest, and that's mostly because it's got a weak ending (it just sorta... Stops). And I'd suspect it's weak ending is as much because it narrative constraints than anything else
Is... Grotsnik Smart?
Or is it a case of deadpool-ishness
What with the madness
Went so crazy it ticked back over
Yeah he’s pretty smart
Also question, multiple choice question,
In 40k, what being is most responsible for the absolute state of things?
A. The Emperor
B. The Deceiver
C. The Silent king
D. Erebus
E. Eldrad
F. Vect
G. The British
I think for all of it, emps bargained with the powers and then renegged on the deal and thats what led to the scattering of the primarchs, witch would lead to the empowerment of the gods
I'm gonna blame Vect only because that'd be the funniest possible outcome.
See I'm on the silent king being responsible and the Deceiver
Dude started a war to unite his people then started getting ass beat and the plan not working and then the Deceiver comes in...
Mind you we don't know who the old one that saw the necrotyr and went "nah, not going to help" was
The Deciever is the most responsible for this chain of dominos.
My friend told me osiarch bone reapers are getting a new spearhead :D
I wanna play Ossiarch. They look fun and a lot more cheaper than doing a horde army
Because theyre the bone-stodes iirc
Behold. A list name of all time. I wanna do bone wizards and the first thing that came to mind is the blue bones from the Sans fight (I've never played Undertale)
I had another idea but i don't fully know how the fall back rules work in AOS
Can a unit fall back through a friendly unit?
- In engagement
- Can they fall back through the friendly unit?
- My reason for asking is for like, a swap places sorta thing
Which do yall think?
That's a lot of characters
sure is, need both for the immortal combo, need something to keep the warriors hard to wipe out, the hexmark is just good, the void dragon is both a character and a monster
the technomancer on the wraiths just makes em annoying
if i drop the skorpekhs, i drop th skorpek lord
think i want to keep the wraiths so they get a technomancer
Chaos knights battleforce is 7 war dogs lmaooo
Wholesome dad response
why can't you romance him, Owlcat?
Nah femmarines and marine-compatible HRT
