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[solemn gull]

I don’t really see it but that doesn’t sound out of the ballpark for slanesh’s top guy

[cinder wraith]

yeah

[past sphinx]

oh boy, time to bring more armigers helverins because i see a fly keyword in his future

[cinder wraith]

anyways

my new necromunda gangers are gonna be funny

https://youtu.be/1GNiKiVmt6E?si=j3Pp-H0L5QTez58Q

[solemn gull]

How so

[desert jay]

Helverins are just cool in general

[cinder wraith]

(i know its supposed to be lawrence but loris is better)

((also loris has a shield))

[paper bluff]

Anti-fly is a pretty great keyword

[pulsar cairn]

oh....

[desert jay]

||Flayussy||

[floral herald]

This rips

Can’t wait to see the rest of the goons

[paper bluff]

Why you gotta use the word goon specifically

[desert jay]

Because CYAN hasn’t been corrupted by weird internet slang

[cinder wraith]

because of what you wrote im going to attempt to write an entire essay in brainrot from early 2000s to now

[paper bluff]

At least admit that with slaanesh, the minions and underlings are of a certain sort

[cinder wraith]

the essay will be about horus heresy to 40k

[floral herald]

I know what I wrote

[wintry mist]

The slow and steady march of my DKK army behind a steady stream of beer can emplacements

[floral herald]

Also what’s the broadsword reference for Fulgrim?

It’s some HH thing but I can’t remember exactly what

Is it the one Ferrus made?

[desert jay]

Likely

It’s not the daemon sword because that has a specific look already and he gave it to Lucius

[jaunty dawn]

yeah just the ferrus sword

[paper bluff]

No word on that cronesword then eh?

[runic swallow]

We must refuse to allow the classic “ey boss, lemme deal wit this guy for ya” to be taken from us!

[paper bluff]

I'm saying in slaaneshi cases it is both

[pulsar cairn]

it had the ifunny thing

had to delete it

[bright dove]

The goon squad is a group of people shaped like refridgerators who solve the delicate problem of living folks being around where they shouldn't be.

[junior robin]

really hope EC gets released early next year so I can be released from overhyping hell

[desert jay]

So basically the average space marine

[bright dove]

Precisely!

[mild glen]

They lightly implied a full reveal new years day

[pulsar cairn]

which one of the loyalists chapters are good at throwing parties?

[bright dove]

Space Wolves.

Ultramarines, surprisingly.

[mild glen]

Blood Ravens. They always steal the show.

[pulsar cairn]

Ultramarines?

[runic swallow]

Yeah, but I feel like they’d have to A) not be in power armor and B) have humorous accents and flat caps

[pulsar cairn]

wow

[bright dove]

Part of a good party is the planning that goes into it, after all. 😛

[pulsar cairn]

ur not wrong.....

[desert jay]

Time to make a homebrew chapter called the Astral Goons (they have flat caps on top of the power armor)

[floral herald]

It’s the Imperial Fists

They run a huge once a century reunion party for all their successors

[bright dove]

Respirator mask with bald heads like some CSM, but with the hat instead of the topknot

[upper bluff]

I thought for a moment the bottom right one had a goatee and now I'm disappointed

[pulsar cairn]

that's really cool actually

[uneven ember]

I can't imagine that they're any good though.

each and every Son of Dorn in the galaxy like

[uneven ember]

fdrttttttttttt]cdfx

[finite compass]

Not sure if keysmash or cat

[uneven ember]

cat

[floral herald]

https://x.com/hashiondiscord/status/1871959723970617628?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

Hashi (@HashionDiscord) on X

here they are all together, I do hope we get some kind of detachment to run all four

Twitter · Dec 25, 2024, 4:42 PM

The eternal manlet primarch lmfao

Stay mad down there Angron

[upper canopy]

Mortarion is FLOATING and would be the shortest otherwise

[tardy vault]

Still prefer the OGs (/s)

[dense sedge]

Those are for epic right?

[floral herald]

Scaly red hands composed this post

[uneven ember]

Angron has the worst posture.

[uneven ember]

yes

[floral herald]

The Epic Mortarion bangs

[tardy vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864137380764057641/1321520879372341268/1pbe4a6vdz8e1.jpeg?ex=676d89ba&is=676c383a&hm=50ace8709cd79e03386c377532f78f43dfbebeda8fbbcfdfbe37923367216716&

Better pic

[past sphinx]

thank god curze is dead

[tranquil ivy]

For those curious as to how big a Primaris is compared to a Heresy Legiones

(He has a plasma pistol bc i'm making them into Jump Pack proxxies)

[solemn gull]

Wait why is it a proxy?

[jaunty dawn]

jump pack primaris

but strictly speaking its how youre meant to run assault marines in 40k anyway

[pulsar cairn]

space marines were mass produced back then right?

the primarchs were around so gene seed wasnt a problem i imagine

Was it also less risky?

[jaunty dawn]

they had much better knowledge

[solemn gull]

I thought all firstborn got squatted this edition and it was just assumed you could use tactical sad intercessors etc

[jaunty dawn]

tacticals are still in

and yeah pretty much

[upper bluff]

They're almost certainly gone 11th

[jaunty dawn]

i think theres equal chances that they make a primaris tactical squad

[solemn gull]

Isn’t that just intercessors?

[thin ibex]

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Goff tank?

[floral herald]

No it’s a little different cause they don’t get real special/heavy weapons

Oops all bolter bros

[desert jay]

IDK if GW wants to do the wide weapon selection if it’s not a kill team

They’ve kinda moved away from that

[polar crag]

Why is Magnus blue?

[solemn gull]

I’ve noticed wargear has been on a decline as of recent and I really hope this changes

[jaunty dawn]

i mean a tactical squad isnt really that different from the sternguard squad and they made that

[tired cairn]

I feel like a significant part of the 40k design team feels that way and then someone forgots and you get termagants with three new weapons which doesn't add a whole lot

What was interesting is that apparently the rules team is considering adding wargear points costs back to 40k in limited situations (there was a thing in Warhammer+ that Auspex Tactics summarized)

[thin ibex]

The Intercessor Squad actually uses its limited special weapon well, and by virtue of only having access to the nade launcher it actually works great

[tired cairn]

They used to have a choice of slightly different main guns. I think that was a bit silly

[thin ibex]

Instead of a selection of options where every dedicated choice is better, the multipurpose choice is great when it's the only option

[tired cairn]

I think points make sense when it dramatically changes the role of the squad. I think it encourages more interesting game design if you don't let yourself fallback to balancing by points by default

I think the tactical marine weapon flexibility that is generalist and not specialized is hard to make work in wargames in general and 40k in particular 🤔

[floral herald]

https://x.com/laxj018sn/status/1871967675150393493?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

sonya (shelby) (@laxj018sn) on X

:3

Twitter · Dec 25, 2024, 5:14 PM

[tranquil ivy]

Im currently wondering if my Firstborn should be in the lore as elites

As in, they're the kinda people the chapter sends when they NEED a mission to be a guaranteed success.

[paper bluff]

It can also be like the ships Britan had in ww1 to take Gallipoli

[tranquil ivy]

"OH SHIT IT'S THE FIRSTBORN" type stuff

[past sphinx]

any firstborn left at this point would be a veteran among veterans

bastards to old and angry to die, to fucked up to safely cross the rubicon

[thin ibex]

Nah they can get rubiconn'd if they have a name

Thems the rules

[tranquil ivy]

Well my chapter accidentally skipped ahead 10,000 years using the warp.

They went from the heresy to the 41st millennia, so they have plenty of firstborn.

[past sphinx]

rubicon conversion would be on the table for 90% of them probably

shits safe as hell now

[runic swallow]

Now there’s gotta be a book about the 1% of guys who are too fucked up to risk it, but still able to do Several Last Missions

Just a group of absolute grizzled bastards

[past sphinx]

got the gout, cant get the super steroids

[tranquil ivy]

There are SOME primaris in my legion, but most either refuse the process or simply cannot become primaris

Due to the warp's corruption, they suffer from a bit of a geneseed problem.

As in most of the time it isnt usable

Others in the chapter believe: "I SPENT OVER 7000 YEARS SURVIVING A CONSTANT ONSLAUGHT OF DAEMONS. I THINK I'M STRONG E-FUCKING-NOUGH."

Though again, some ARE Primaris

[runic swallow]

When I eventually get back into playing 40k, I’m gonna say that my IW are all short because they’re naturally selected for it by Standard Trench Depth and also they’re just angry little bastards who will fuck you tall guys up regardless

[solemn gull]

I was tearing my eye balls out while reading a book and all the characters were going “oh it’s so dangerous and has such a high death rate” as if literally every single marine hasn’t been perfectly fine.

[runic swallow]

Like, the equivalent of them being scary little guys who are also built like a brick house of not-for-show muscle and scars over the years

[pastel rampart]

When I was driving home today I passed by Huron St. and I'm like, aw yeah my boy Blackheart live offa there.

[runic swallow]

Black Legionaire “Brother, why are the Iron Warriors so… small?”
Other Black Legionarie “Don’t. Just don’t ask, you don’t want them looking over here. Do not make eye contact.”

[tranquil ivy]

Juuust wait until the 27th

I'll be getting 20 MK VI marines >:)

Which i'll be converting into Intercessors and a unique character of mine!

[runic swallow]

Cut to Iron Warrior menacingly sharpening a trench spike

[tranquil ivy]

I like Iron Warriors

They inspired the dark gunmetal/rusted scheme of my marines, lmao

I just gotta get back into the swing of things

[solemn gull]

Those look very nice

[tranquil ivy]

Thanks. I wasnt happy with them for the longest time due to being too....Clean

Then I tried a new painting technique recently, so luckily for me I can finally make them more grungy (left is old, right is new)

But yeah

Feelsgoodman

[runic swallow]

A tip, agrax looks great over gunmetal, gives it a really good weathered feel

[tranquil ivy]

Oh yea defo

But currently my painting technique does a nice enough job at rust

Its especially noticeable on the leg

[runic swallow]

Nuln and then Agrax for a really weathered look

[tranquil ivy]

Also got dreadnoughts >:D

Dreads are cool

:D

[runic swallow]

I can’t fully explain what I mean, but it’s like a very mild patina look, like how you sometimes get slightly browned metal. Which, yes, is technically rust, but it’s more of a discoloration than active decay

Also hell yeah, love Leviathan Dreads

[tranquil ivy]

Yea that's more what I wanted. I couldnt figure out the work

Word*

They arent gonna rust because they've had constant use

But discoloration over the years is a more probable thing

Though i'm still trying to understand their color scheme.

As in, I dont know which bits of armor to color red, and which to keep grey

Currently it's varying

Imma head go bed tho. Gn chat.

[solemn gull]

Could give the variations meaning like how Crimson Fist veterans paint both their gauntlets red

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408609553597464579/1321537044245119148/FB_IMG_1735148847119.webp?ex=676d98c8&is=676c4748&hm=467081ee0f3e754cca88857cf9555cf05d508e8ff92438024a3e9a91ffa4396c&

[paper bluff]

I'm greening up some armor panels for a knight lancer

[pulsar cairn]

[glad spear]

There's some theories floating with the new fulgrim model that one of his blades may be the last crone sword

Please GW 🙏 Ynnari progress

[floral herald]

I’d post an Eldar poggers image but I can’t find one

So this will have to do

It does look pretty similar

[glad spear]

Me wanting more Yvraine x Visarch 🙏

[tired cairn]

What Tyranid model is that?

[floral herald]

Maybe Red Terror?

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/cdn/shop/files/14261_62f3fe36ee56e_tyranids-parasite-of-mortrex-2022.jpg?v=1722462323

Whoops

[mild glen]

So. I can no longer avoid learning it, as I got some bats for Yuletide Gift Exchange...
How paint fur?

[past sphinx]

badly

AND WITH BRAVADO

[paper bluff]

https://youtu.be/1x03dCZwKp0?si=UWu2Y2XOp9pIwlBz

[pastel rampart]

Step one: draw a circle.

Step two: draw the fucking owl.

[solemn gull]

Looks great what’s the banner for?

[pastel rampart]

Chaos warrior on a horse. Big ol' banner-bearer.

[solemn gull]

Fantastic, banners need to make a comeback

Hell even my inquisitor has a personal banner bearer/herald

[pulsar holly]

Man, Ulfenkarn looks really neat as a campaign location in Soulbound

[dense sedge]

I got a malstrain box for Christmas, how do their rules work?

[tranquil ivy]

Honestly i might do that. My only concern is if my previous marine will end up looking bizarre once I get a ranking scheme set up.

[tranquil ivy]

OKAY

I have a MK VI command squad but only 5 of them.

On the other hand I have 20 MK III minis.

Should I turn 6 of my MK IIIs into Bladeguard Veterans?

They look more bulky too

OUGH I LOVE MK VI

There's a definite size difference, but its not enough for casual play to become a problem

So i have a squad of Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs now!

The gang

That makes half of my Christmas presents finished

Probably gonna turn the MK IIIs into bladeguard

[pulsar cairn]

beak

[desert jay]

Tis beak, milord

[paper bluff]

I wonder if I should get a horus heresy landraider for a second landraider for my custodes

[pulsar cairn]

I say get the one ur going to use more

[paper bluff]

I use a landraider some time

2 might be a bit much with em

[grand vigil]

Are there any tabletop models of SoS having this helmet?

Most I see is the half mask

[paper bluff]

I can take a look when I get home

[jaunty dawn]

its a head option for the plastic kit

which is currently unavailable on the webstore weirdly

[glad spear]

https://youtube.com/shorts/O3Sb8eszgvQ?si=ASxNCMm6J5tE02ba

[grand vigil]

Cool, it's more knightly, but dosent have the half grill mask sos has

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/591429239211950081/1321893103606698004/20241226_123005.jpg?ex=676ee463&is=676d92e3&hm=29c12c9ceb9cbcd7c24575faf001465aa531b1e6d3fb157f6e7fae2a831110fb&

I took some advice and tattered the edges.

[pulsar holly]

Trying to remember which Necromunda book covers them

[pulsar cairn]

I love it

||replace the "cute" in the sign with a 10||

[paper bluff]

A skull crying lava can be babygurl and cute

[pulsar cairn]

[vital owl]

Isn’t it book of desolation?

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/596197650332778498/1321904210484133970/IMG_8393.png?ex=676eeebb&is=676d9d3b&hm=7b8b83ad52e29f13d75809f3728cc0a993631722fcedd83f7508c71f4e427ef0&

[grand vigil]

Only way fulgtim would ever have rizz again

[dense sedge]

Shame there’s no wahapesia necromunda equivalent, gw books are expensive

[vital owl]

There is

https://www.necroraw.ru

[dense sedge]

Oh neat thanks

[deft crest]

Angron so cool.

shame he can't be in Daemon focused army

[tepid stratus]

Reason #128 for splitting up the daemon codex

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/591429239211950081/1321936065745129564/20241226_151713.jpg?ex=676f0c66&is=676dbae6&hm=dbab1eacc7ca6beaa4a83813b42d2e3cdf75738d66742e1e2fa6cd4a444f46f0&

Callin' it done.

[tired cairn]

Very cool

[pastel rampart]

And also:

[glad spear]

hype

[thin ibex]

In warhammer fantasy/ old world, chaos warriors were generally all super veteran dudes right? Cause to get the chaos armor they had to fight for unknown years in the wastes?

[pastel rampart]

Yup.

[paper bluff]

Or kill a guy that had it

[pastel rampart]

They're consummate warriors who were often leaders of marauder warbands, if not leaders of a whole tribe.

[past sphinx]

Also grab bookromunda, its not as sleek or updated as frequently but you can keep it on a harddrive somewhere as backup

[unreal cosmos]

dam that's cool, and explains some things

[solemn gull]

What’s the most agreed upon living rulebook?

[mild glen]

I'm sure we can fit more "harass Lorgar" in there if we wanted

[paper bluff]

Time is more a suggestion in the warp so there is for sure more time to fit in some more harass lorgar

[sour sequoia]

Sigmar heads I need your wisdom for skaven tourney lists

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Grand Alliance Chaos | Skaven | Warpcog Convocation
Drops: 3
Spell Lore - Lore of Ruin
Prayer Lore - Noxious Prayers
Manifestation Lore - Primal Energy
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General’s Regiment
Vizzik Skour, Prophet of the Horned Rat (400)
• General
Clanrats (300)
• Reinforced
Ratling Guns (340)
• Reinforced
Stormfiends (260)
• 1 Ratling Cannons and Clubbing Blows
• 1 Shock Gauntlets
• 1 Clubbing Blows and Warpfire Projectors
Warplock Jezzails (150)
---
Regiment 1
Grey Seer (120)
Acolyte Globadiers (100)
Clanrats (150)
Warlock Engineer (130)
-----
Faction Terrain
Gnawhole```

Globadiers and ratling guns deploy off table, use vizzik and 60 rats as an anvil and then stormfiends + weapon teams as the hammer

[paper bluff]

Should inget the silent king or the void dragon as a birthday gift for myself?

[soft willow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[paper bluff]

don't have the funds sadly

[soft willow]

Void dragon probably fits in more varied lists.

[floral herald]

man I'm not enough of a sigmarhead for this but it seems neat

[sour sequoia]

What do you really like runnin rest of your list

Void Dragon is genuinely like. Joy to assemble joy to paint joy to field whole way thru super stress free shockingly

It’s a little more varied in where you can fit it, but TSK may actually be stronger now???

[paper bluff]

I like canoptek court but I've recently gotten some destoryers and been thiniging about starshatter

[sour sequoia]

TSK will really want subassembly if you care abt painting, he big and pretty finicky

[sour sequoia]

Silent King + doomsdaymaxxing is basically the strongest thing in necrons rn

Get your arks get your LHD get your canoptek doomstalkers

Necron car park is real

[paper bluff]

I only got one heavy destoryer atm and one doom stalker

[pastel rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC0vUfiqKGk

[tardy vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906239578195779584/1322027166472339466/Screenshot_20241226_201906_Reddit.jpg?ex=676f613e&is=676e0fbe&hm=0371ff84115bb0d988346700e0a625de12311bf9913ab0a90947448fc5866925&

[solemn gull]

Oldhammer models are so charming to me. The power stances and ridiculous designs that were hand sculpted.

[past sphinx]

If you use the new bile detachment take 9 obliterators

Works great

[paper bluff]

Let it be said, as a demonprince, a virus bomb would hurt but the true biggest wound was the psychological one rylanor left

[mild glen]

Alright. My wife has built her Be'lakor. What flavour of Space Marine am I painting the corpse on the base?

[tranquil ivy]

These look bladeguard enough, right?

[pulsar cairn]

idk what a bladeguard looks like

but yours looks really good

[meager quail]

Blade guards guard the blades

[tranquil ivy]

Im basically running a Horus Heresy proxy of these

[pulsar cairn]

that's exactly what it looks like to me

[tranquil ivy]

:D

[pulsar cairn]

like a heresy era bladeguard

[tranquil ivy]

MK III just looks tanky

[paper bluff]

Iron warrior

Hazard stripes time

[unreal cosmos]

I'd be tempted to use the command squad heads for Veterancy points but that would also be made more evident with the paint job

[deft crest]

Tyranid players, I'm getting some files printed for a friend and I need to know if the Tyranid Warrior legs are One piece or if the legs are slotted into the tail/Abdomen.

If its the later do they have ball sockets or is it pegged

[pastel rampart]

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/cdn/shop/files/99120106027_TyranidWarriors07.jpg?v=1727204901

They're weird squares.

[desert jay]

BT because fuck the BTs

Unless you want something with more chroma going on than just the red highlights

[bright dove]

Salamanders for extra gutpunch

[floral herald]

Lamenter! They’re posterboy L takers and it’s a chance to draw their labor intensive shoulderpad 1 (one) time which isn’t playing deathwatch

[deft crest]

Fuck yeah tyty

A friend mentioned something i never noticed with the warrior boxes

You always have enough to make one more but you are missing legs and a tail for the last model

So i was going to print off a few to use up the left over bits

(Someone also said you could use the extra tail in the raveners box too but warriors are the goal

[pastel rampart]

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/modern-legs-compatible-with-the-original-warrior If you need some options for legs and tails:

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/modern-tail-compatible-with-the-original-warrior

[past sphinx]

Quarrelsome beasts

[thin ibex]

Is this... a list?

[jaunty dawn]

looks fab imo!!

[solemn gull]

Those guys look great

[deft crest]

Thanks a ton these are perfect. As one last question just in case, Any idea where to get replacement Immortal necron legs? The killteam box has like extra everything except the legs

[pastel rampart]

Lemme dig around a bit.

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/star-pharaohs-khaldun-lancers These are for sale but it's cheap and close enough to Immortals imo

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/brother-necronius-gandalftheviking-8eb2 If you can somehow slice the legs off this would work

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/unit-model-2023-09-01 Very static pose but also, legs are a separate file.

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/chill-cron-the-classic-destroyer as an aside I have the best destroyer model as an alternative

[deft crest]

Ty ty

I'll look through em and see if any will fit

[dense sedge]

ironhead squats finally have a vehicle and brute huh

which of delaque's stuff is their vehicle? None of them look, vehicle'y

[past sphinx]

We've uhh had a brute and a vehicle for a long while now

Were just such good boys we got an elite and bikes to

Delaque has the limo but its not a model as of yet

[pulsar holly]

Now that the Ironhead Squats got some new stuff can we get some new stuff for the Leagues?

[mild glen]

Gods dammit. Every time I'm reminded Primaris marines exist, I hate them just a, little bit more

[pulsar holly]

I like em

I also really like the tension between those not wanting to cross the Primaris Rubricon, or debating whether they should do so or not and the Primaris. (Or the distrust for the Primaris from those)

[solemn gull]

I like the fact they are actually space marine scale

[mild glen]

I'm fine with GW wanting to fix the scale and put out new models, it's just that, lore-wise, they're just Space Marines that are better in every way which is frustrating

[past sphinx]

no they have worse armor patterns

no drip

massive L

swagless messiah's

[mild glen]

It feels like that phenomenon where people mustake "increase the power scale" for "good writing"

[past sphinx]

my core problem with it is that i simply expected more

but it didnt even really move the needle

[floral herald]

On the whole I like primaris but I agree with this

They gotta release more patchwork armor primaris it’s peak shit for space marines

[past sphinx]

mk7 heads on primaris look fucking good as hell

cant even deny it

[runic swallow]

More skrunkly marines, meaning both faces and armor

[floral herald]

Yeah it’s a good look

[solemn gull]

I wish they kept that screaming face grill design

[floral herald]

But overall I like the primaris because I think it’s neat how they echo HH era organization and because the originals are all 10,000 years out of time they can make a good lens for looking at the setting and going “this is weird and that you don’t think it’s weird is weird” and adding a bunch of literal new blood is a neat dynamic for a lot of space marine chapters

[solemn gull]

It is cool to have a guy go "Oh yeah I knew [Primarch] got to watch him on parade before cawl put me in a cryo tube"

because the only people who can say that are either chaos or old ass dreadnoughts

[floral herald]

The thing I hate the most about primaris is how siloed off from firstborn they are on the tabletop

With units being unable to mix pretty much at all

I’m not sure what apocalypse will happen if they let intercessors get in a Rhino

(On the other hand I can maybe see some reticence to put Devastators in the hovertruck)

[runic swallow]

I think it’s like putting a bag of holding in another bag of holding

(I don’t play D&D, I’m pretty sure it explodes or something else bad)

[floral herald]

When I came back to collect 40K I knew I wanted a power armor army and a portion of why I chose CSM is because they don’t have the awkward split

[mild glen]

It was always between T'au and guard for me. I picked T'au because I thought they'd be cheaper.

(Also the T'au OOB makes sense to me on an instinctual level)

[jagged dawn]

Kinda funny to us how the new chaos knight detachment is on every site except for the official WH40K app

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_grotmas_detachments_chaos_knights_iconoclast_fiefdom_09_12_2024-7ib5zcufo4-wr0hgp3hur.pdf

Adds some good options that weren’t present before though, get to run a bunch of chaff infantry

[tired cairn]

I like the models for Primaris and the upscaling makes some sense (though I'm a bit skeptical of upscaling more generally). The fast they did some lore special stuff is a bit weird. The rule siloing is silly but hopefully they continue to get rid of it

It would be tragic if they got rid of the Rhino and it was replaced exclusively by the gravtruck

[desert jay]

I think the grav truck is pretty cool, the gladiators superfluous, the repressors gratuitous, and the storm speeders could have been a refresh

[runic swallow]

They’ll pry the Totally-Not-M113 from our collective cold dead hands

[tired cairn]

I hate the truck part of the Impulsor, aesthetically. It's also funny how the pictures taken of it rarely show it.

And I assume the Repulsor gets its name for its aesthetics :V

[past sphinx]

rhino lives forever through 30k

[solemn gull]

It would be funny if they made it more accessible to other imperial factions.

Like “Hey, it’s M42 and there aren’t any short marines left. Here you go guard commander!”

[jagged dawn]

Speaking of the detachment, made a list for it

[desert jay]

Rhino will live forever because GW can’t be fucked making a new vehicle for any of the six other 40k factions that use it

[jagged dawn]

Question: is the despoiler any better than the dedicated “chaos” medium-weight knights?

(By that we mean the rampager, desecrator, and abominant)

[untold swallow]

They also took the massive L of not using them to get rid of the 'man marines only' bullshit

[solemn gull]

Yeah that’s fair

[pastel rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHAP3E5e2jc

[pale narwhal]

I’ve grown on the gladiator as a vehicle tbh

Helps that the kit can build the 3 variants plus impulsor

[desert jay]

Yeah the gladiator is fine but it’s even more “hover predator” than the impulsor is “grav rhino”. But it’s fine

[pale narwhal]

I do wish it had more of an identity than that. For what it is it’s alright tho

[desert jay]

Oh I forgot to mention the Astraeus. The Astraeus is gratuitous (positive)

[unreal cosmos]

The storm speeders are a refresh, imo

[desert jay]

Yeah almost but they’re technically a distinct unit from their predecessors

[unreal cosmos]

Won't matter once the predecessors are OOP

[floral herald]

Storm speeders are like 75% really cool but I wish they were less weapon encrusted

Which is kinda a criticism I have of a lot of primaris vehicles

[desert jay]

There’s also no successor to the land speeder storm

[floral herald]

Predreadnought ass tanks

[jagged dawn]

Picked up a second wardogs kit, getting close to the point where we’d be able to play an actual game

[unreal cosmos]

I think my hottest Primaris take is probably "Firstborn are holding them back" which is partially a self-solving problem but has also left some lasting damage, imo

[jagged dawn]

Also good lord have y’all seen the imperial knights battle force box? Gives you 4 armigers and a paladin for only $290 (CAD)

Would cost you twice that to buy the kits individually

[unreal cosmos]

Both the rules-siloing and the lore hype were only necessary to set them apart from the existing stuff but also try and not make the existing stuff redundant (at first)

So I think some of their more awkward units are a result of trying to get around "well we can't have X because that's a special Firstborn toy we can't take away from them"

[desert jay]

Some day there’ll be a primaris lascannon unit

[unreal cosmos]

That's Eliminators

Or at least that's probably meant to be Eliminators

[glad spear]

I also dont like primaris because of the powerscaling thing

I miss when it took several marines to bring down an Eldar

Now it's all 1v1

[floral herald]

That hasn’t really been the case since like 1e maybe

[desert jay]

The las fusil just isn’t the same

[pulsar holly]

I like the Primaris armor too

[pulsar holly]

One day GW will say "Fuck it, no more Firstborn."

Though I do like the tension between those who don't trust or are wary of the Primaris, and the Primaris. Will they won't they cross the Primaris Rubricon.

[mild glen]

Primaris are bigger and stronger and faster and their gene-seed flaws are less pronounced and dammit, you somehow made Marines less interesting, GW.

[floral herald]

The gene seed stuff didn’t really pan out outside of there being imperial fists with betchers glands again

[uneven ember]

okay but for real who thought that was a good idea

"You know how we wrote in Space Marines having crazy Geneseed issues so you could make up fun and flavorful details for your Chapters? Well guess what, they fixed them. Eat shit."

[floral herald]

Yeah it was either expanded upon or walked back real quick because it was a kinda whack flattening

Esp for chapters like the blood angels

Also what’s a good way to get Red Scorpions decals?

I’m thinking of painting my kill team in RS colors and I’m not freehanding that lmao

[uneven ember]

oh nice
I think I saw some Scorpion decals a while back on a site I bookmarked for Templars

[unreal cosmos]

I really think most of it was just

[floral herald]

Looking at doing them in cobalt desert colors

[unreal cosmos]

trying to bring them more in line with the elite image they'd accumulated

[uneven ember]

oh yeah, etsy shop here https://www.etsy.com/shop/ForgottenChapters?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1405416327&from_page=listing

[unreal cosmos]

Like I think a lot of Primaris lore is just "the Astartes short is lore-accurate now"

But also the "ooo bigger and stronger" part has also been dialed back as the novelty has worn off

Primaris are, for better or for worse, just What Space Marines Are

[past sphinx]

their just called space marines now

so thats a plus

[pale narwhal]

can confirm forgotten chapters is good, have got my carcharodons decals from them

[jaunty dawn]

yeah the power scaling is irrelevant

because space marines (40k in general) has never had any consistency there

so like even if a feat gets attributed to the belisarian furnace or whatever its not like its something a space marine couldnt do before really

[floral herald]

Yeah the most objectively present difference is that primaris marines are much more likely to bang their heads on 7’ doorways

[uneven ember]

I'm in the position of being neutral to approving of the scale/ capability increase of models and rules but "meh" about the lore

Except the Gladiator and Repulsor look too much alike. There's a reason the Land Raider profile isn't just "Predator but big."

[pulsar cairn]

aw

Cyan is no longer festive

[bright dove]

I like the Primaris lore myself. It took one of the most brilliant minds thousands of years to improve on what the Emperor did, and to be quite frank it's mostly marginal improvements.

And the three improvements that Cawl made? One was metal coils to help muscles, one was regenerative adrenaline, and the last was literally just half of a gland that made Primarchs Primarchs. Fully a third of it is based on the Emperor's work, and that one is notably incomplete.

[paper bluff]

None shall have his amount of drip

[paper bluff]

Well "one" mind

[past sphinx]

Psh

Hes still got his entire face

Cassius clears neg dif

[runic swallow]

That’s very wonderfully skrunkly armor, but yeah the “I have 1/3 of my face bone exposed” chaplain is an all-timer

[paper bluff]

I wonder is alpha primus' gene seed could stabilize thunder warriors to the primarus stage

[solemn gull]

I don’t think thunder warriors work off the same principles as astartes

[paper bluff]

It is most likely a slap dash combo of custodes and proto-space marine augmentation. You can stabilize a thunder warrior with space marine organs such as with the riven hound

[solemn gull]

Oh had that happened in lore?

[paper bluff]

Ya this guy specifically

He originated in the Imperial "Geneworks" on Terra, suggesting that he had already been altered before becoming a Space Marine.[2] Haar himself called the Dait'Tar, Thunder Warrior rebels whom he fought alongside the other World Eaters in the Cerberus Insurrection, his "brothers".[5] This suggests that Haar had once been a Thunder Warrior or some kind of hybrid, explaining his extreme strength and speed.[2] His connection to the Thunder Warriors is further reinforced by his Raptor Imperialis tattoo[4] and his comments that he had "dreams of thunder"

I think the thunder warrior process was a bit of "fuck it let's see what happens" with Enhancement

We do know that the custodes process existed before the space marine process

[pulsar cairn]

Iron hands?

[paper bluff]

Nah. Loyalist world eater that went on to become a black sheild foxy-baby

[solemn gull]

Why didn’t he get put out to pasture with the rest of the thunder warriors?

[pastel rampart]

Might've been more biologically stable compared to the other thunder warriors and Emps decided "let's see what happens."

[paper bluff]

Combo what with slimnoid, i'd bet due to that he was being used as test subject to the space marine process

[pastel rampart]

May have been one of the few successful attempts at turning a thunder warrior into a space marine. Emps planned to wipe out the thunder warriors anyway and had been working on the marines before the unification wars even ended, but I suspect he experimented on some TWs to see how viable it might be.

Probably too much effort in the long run, especially given how mentally and genetically unstable the TWs were.

The Outcast Dead shows that one TW, Taranis, managed to find a way around the degeneration and cloned a progenoid gland. So it's clearly possible, but given the negatives associated with the TWs it's very likely wasn't considered a viable strategy.

[tranquil ivy]

Finally got some 40mm bases

These look very Bladeguard now

They look like knights

[solemn gull]

They look really cool I love how you’re using older armour sets. One small thing I want to say though is have you thought of making them more ornate or is the bareness intentional?

[tranquil ivy]

they have the bare minimum on them on purpose

they dont really understand the concept of making their firstborn all fancy

makes em a bit more of a target, like "HEY WE'RE VETERANS COME GET US"

their paint scheme shall hopefully make them more interesting to look at

[paper bluff]

What is your chapter a successor of?

[tranquil ivy]

Salamanders

[paper bluff]

Ah cause I was thinking loyalist iron warriors. Excuse me, successors of "unknown"

[tranquil ivy]

lmao

yea well they do have a bit of an iron warriors paint job

[paper bluff]

Cause the iron warriors were very much "we Don't need fancy stuff. We will get the job done"

[tranquil ivy]

well these guys were trapped fighting daemons in the warp Doom style for 7k+ years, so I doubt they'd kit themselves with anything that could get them killed

i mean hell

[paper bluff]

I imagine a chimera geneseed of the salamanders/ iron warriors would be like "We shall stand beyond breaking!"

[tranquil ivy]

This sergeant literally strapped a chainsaw to his fist

[tranquil ivy]

Well i doubt these guys left the warp with completely regular genes

[paper bluff]

Into the fires of battle, iron without

Iron within, unto the anvil of war

[tranquil ivy]

FORGED IN WAR WITH AN IRON RESOLVE

i guess

also should I just SPLATTER that sergeant with blood

he looks brutal bc heehee chainsaw fist

[tired cairn]

🤔 all custodes models should be resin to represent that they are individually forged in a process that is more individual and time consuming than Space Marines

actually they should each be uniquely 3D printed

[deft crest]

Close enough

I hope to never need to build one of these bastards ever again

[thin ibex]

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[tired cairn]

They should be happy they are at least primed

[jagged dawn]

Huh, neat. Didn’t know the creator of Astartes worked on secret level

[tranquil ivy]

This hurts way too much because of how true it is

I still dont fucking know why my phone cant focus on distant things but here we are

There we go, lmao

[past sphinx]

Ah that ain't bad

2 or 3 weeks of work

[paper bluff]

I recommend playing custodes and necrons

[faint galleon]

I find it amusing to think that Cawl focused his sub-emperor capacities on stuff that was actually directly useful to a marine's job (rather than indulgent stuff like acid spit and super stomachs), and thus Cawl is better at character optimization

[floral herald]

Play GSC you won’t regret painting GSC

[tired cairn]

The new Tyranid ally GSC detachment is a grave danger to myself

[tranquil ivy]

Those are the ones I HAVENT packed for gaming

[floral herald]

I was already buying GSC on sale now I get to buy gribblies to go with them

[tired cairn]

That's the slightly less dangerous direction

[floral herald]

True

[topaz hinge]

I'm a guard player planning on doing GSC next because I hate myself apparently

< not a fast painter

[unreal cosmos]

GSC standing between Tyranids and Guard like https://youtu.be/eDUnOA5mH94?si=zRA_EAeVQcnvovrA

[paper bluff]

The super stomachs are practical if had to get to the day to day of space marine deployment

Also inlike to imagine the alpha legion would develop over active acid spit

[floral herald]

Also means they can metabolize space marine super food

[bright dove]

An army marches on its stomach, and there's a lot of planet types

[jagged dawn]

we regret painting GSC

Saying that though our chaos knights aren’t going to be much faster due to their size

[tired cairn]

You can do relatively more with an airbrush though

[pastel rampart]

Knights also are much fewer models even if they're bigger.

You get one of them done and that's what, 1/4th of the army finished.

[floral herald]

Scale and time to paint also don’t always go the same in tandem

Especially for big smooth surfaces

[jagged dawn]

Don’t have that

But yeah it won’t be an especially large army since we’re planning on building for a Iconoclast fiefdom detachment

+ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Chaos Knights
+ DETACHMENT: Iconoclast Fiefdom
+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 995pts
+
+ WARLORD: Char1: Knight Despoiler
+ ENHANCEMENT: Profane Altar (on Char1: Knight Despoiler)
& Pave The Way (on Char2: War Dog Stalker)
+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 6
+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (3x2) + (1x6) - Assassination: 2 Characters
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Char1: 1x Knight Despoiler (435 pts): Warlord, Titanic feet, Reaper chainsword, Warpstrike claw, Daemonbreath meltagun
Enhancement: Profane Altar (+20 pts)
Char2: 1x War Dog Stalker (155 pts): Diabolus heavy stubber, Avenger chaincannon, Slaughterclaw
Enhancement: Pave The Way (+15 pts)

10x Cultist Mob (50 pts)
• 1x Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon, Autopistol
• 9x Cultist: 9 with Autopistol, Brutal assault weapon
10x Cultist Mob (50 pts)
• 1x Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon, Autopistol
• 9x Cultist: 9 with Autopistol, Brutal assault weapon
1x War Dog Brigand (165 pts): Armoured feet, Avenger chaincannon, Daemonbreath spear, Diabolus heavy stubber
1x War Dog Karnivore (140 pts): Reaper chaintalon, Slaughterclaw, Diabolus heavy stubber```

(Exact builds subject to alteration)

On that note can anyone think of a good proxy kit for cultists?

[tired cairn]

From other companies?

[pastel rampart]

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=7731 If you don't mind kitbashing, the Frostgrave Cultist kit is great.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2gLOhbS_p0s/V0S2nlu7YtI/AAAAAAAADfg/sRdDWSk58iUSguM3sJdZorRT61g8CnOtACLcB/s1600/IMG_7308.JPG

[jagged dawn]

Yes but also just, other kits from GW

We’ve been eyeing the necromunda Cawdor set

[uneven ember]

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HER: "And on that Day of Ascension the Star Children will descend and grant mankind the unity and perfection we have denied ourselves in the oneness of the Shadow in the Warp"

ME, WATCHING HER MANDIBLES TWITCH WHEN SHE'S EXCITED INSTEAD OF LISTENING: "that's so interesting haha"

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[paper bluff]

Knights are fun to paint

[floral herald]

Yea

https://x.com/laserboat999/status/1873098672017486300?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

donald boat (@laserboat999) on X

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Low hive tweets

[unreal cosmos]

the new Arbitor Ian video about Squats has some real juicy tidbits

mostly Necromunda-specific but there is some stuff applicable to Kin as a whole

[floral herald]

Finally had a chance to listen to this and it whips

[pastel rampart]

It's very VNV Nation, isn't it?

[floral herald]

I'm not familiar with VNV nation

[pastel rampart]

Oh man, fuckin' VNV Nation is 40k to me.

[floral herald]

👀

[pastel rampart]

But that's entirely because the GW store in the mall back during 3rd edition played it a lot, haha

[floral herald]

Also cool that despite the look I think it is actually not GenAI which I like https://youtu.be/ebYXWPUdjhg

[pastel rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niWDBLdR4bw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOdi5xqhvxA Y'know I think it was this album they kept playing.

[floral herald]

Oh I misunderstood it was used for the distorted unearthly texture work

[pastel rampart]

Yeah, but I think that's a perfectly acceptable way to use AI to get that unnatural distorted look.

[floral herald]

Yeah I've long liked fuzzier/shittier genAI output for warp-y impossible looks

I'll have to give these a listen

[pastel rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDPwv0n8LzY Also yeah it was absolutely this album, it's dredging back ancient memories even the Votann have forgotten.

90s industrial-style and electronic music has a weird association with 40k for me and I fully admit it was just two shared interests colliding at once.

[floral herald]

I think there's something there

[bold halo]

so this actually reminded me of a weird as hell album I found ages ago from the early 2000s

https://www.discogs.com/release/71223-Various-The-Sound-Of-Warhammer-40000-Chapter-I

idk where you'd be able to listen to it properly, there's like some of the tracks on youtube but nothing complete as far as I can see

but yeah, 40k and electronic music go back

[pastel rampart]

Oh I have all three volumes.

This one is an extremely weird and experimental track. It's not even like...music. It's some Lustmord shit.

[bold halo]

yeah I remember there being some really strange tracks, I honestly haven't thought about this in a very long time

[pastel rampart]

Same, haha. I've had those albums floating from one hard drive to another for...god, 20 years maybe?

DISCO NURGLE

[mild glen]

Shot it the dark: can anybody help me get a lead of AoS Black Knights? Preferably NiB/NoS?

(I want me some deathrattle cavalry)

[paper bluff]

I'll take a look at some places

Other wise ebay

[mild glen]

I've messaged my LGS and Hit the "notify me" button on the webstore but it's been out for months

I found a guy on Amazon with terrible reviews, but that's it

[mental birch]

Qhere are you?

[mild glen]

Boston area.

[soft willow]

Noble Knight?

[mild glen]

Double the price before shipping is a little bit more than I'm willing to be fleeced for.

[jagged dawn]

Hmm, just had an interesting idea. We’ve been planning on making space marines our second army after chaos knights but couldn’t decide how to build it (since we want to model them off of the Retributors from Astartes)

What if we made it a deathwatch army?

[mild glen]

Deathwatch is cool

[tired cairn]

Deathwatch has sketchy levels of support. But if you just make a normal space marine army with Deathwatch aesthetics, there is no problem on that end

[jagged dawn]

Gives us neat rules, a still usable list of units to pull from, and let’s us use our old blood angels sternguard models

[jagged dawn]

Sketchy how?

[tired cairn]

Well, they originally only got a terrible entry in the Imperial Agents codex. And it was only due to a high level of backlash that they re-released the index rules. So I would be worried that GW is not interested in long-term support

[jagged dawn]

Either way we’re painting them up as Retributors because the mostly grey scheme
A) looks cool
B) allows them to look good with less effort on our part

[jagged dawn]

Hmm, fair enough

We’ll probably still build with deathwatch in mind though since ultimately we can just pivot to different space marines if things change

And most of the units in the army will be things that a regular space marine List has regardless

Intercessors, captains, terminators, etc etc

But if we get to have a bit of fun with gathering multiple different chapters together in the meantime then it’s a pretty good trade

[jagged dawn]

we have found him: the king of retributor models
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMK06aonb4s/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

moriartyminiatures

Chapter Master Balerion Valyriat, The Dreadblade.

This guy shall be leading my Retributors on the table. Definitely my favourite HQ model in the marine range.

Thanks to @boss_minis for hooking me up with the Pariah box set so I could get him in my army. Heavy Intercessors coming up next!

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has an entire guide too

sadly the transfer sheet he links to is no longer sold by mighty brush and their new one features a haloed skull instead of the "fist grasping skull" from the animation

[meager quail]

Oh, hey folks, there’s a Warhammer store right near my hotel in Dublin. Assuming I don’t want to do war gaming or paint, is there anything worth picking up while I have one in the neighborhood

[tranquil ivy]

So we got a Land Raider now

I hate painting lights

[pulsar cairn]

It raids the land

You did a great job honestly

They look like lights to me

[pastel rampart]

I remember someone telling me "I hate painting lights, that's why all my vehicles have LEDs"

[pulsar cairn]

Lmao

[upper canopy]

https://www.tumblr.com/wh40kartwork/771218275706306560/chaos-votann?source=share

[tired cairn]

You might be able to pick up a free model for funsies? And usually they have cool models the staff painted. I doubt it will have anything you want to buy, but what do you like about Warhammer?

[pulsar cairn]

Humanity kind of fell twice in 40k, no?

Like i see that happening after they lost the ability to warp travel(before Big E took over) and after the emperor got stuck into the golden throne

[misty violet]

Yes, though even in the Great Crusade period after the Emperor started uniting the galaxy there wasn't really any significant innovation just rediscovery

[merry lagoon]

"Humanity fell, and we are the only bulwark against the terror that can stop it from happening again!" -The Imperium, conveniently ignoring all the uncontacted human colonies they keep coming across that were doing fine until they showed up

[meager quail]

Bugge

[desert jay]

Accurate guardsmen casualty figure

[tranquil ivy]

Chat i think i have an addiction

[glad spear]

Could be worse, could be a guard army

[tranquil ivy]

True

[quaint compass]

That's too much infantry to be a competitive IG army

[pulsar cairn]

name one after me pls

[meager quail]

Skully's Shrieks

[pulsar cairn]

[solemn gull]

I think I’ve given every model a name at this point

[pulsar cairn]

dang it

[meager quail]

Skully’s Shrieks is an infantry company

Like Gaunt’s Ghosts

[pulsar cairn]

[tranquil ivy]

Gimme a name for him

[pastel rampart]

Puggy (it's short for Pugnacious)

[tired cairn]

Is the single spike enough to designate them as chaos or is that a loyalist?

[solemn gull]

Pancake has been making a loyalist firstborn army

[solemn gull]

Brother Sir Jean Paul Astartesus II first of his name

Add some more parts on

[tranquil ivy]

Funny, but I want Fox to name him

B r a s s

[tired cairn]

I like his "come at me bro" stance

[solemn gull]

@pulsar cairn summoned to name a marine

[pulsar cairn]

Aaa

Ok i gotta think of an actual name...

What about Rufus?

@tranquil ivy

i was just going to say "skully" but i felt like he deserved an actual name

[tranquil ivy]

Rufus it is then

[jagged dawn]

And his name shall echo in eternity!

Also that model looks cool

[tranquil ivy]

@pulsar cairn

You have named Rufus

[pulsar cairn]

[solemn gull]

Hell yeah

Is Rufus the sergeant?

[tranquil ivy]

Nope he's literally just one of the Bladeguard

[solemn gull]

Oof well at least he’s like a veteran

Clearly a badass hero

[tranquil ivy]

Also i forget how small they are, haha

But theyre way tankier i'd say

[tired cairn]

Oh, that reminds me. Someone went really hard into making a Deathwatch army and put QR codes on the bottom of each model's base that linked to a backstory about the corresponding marine

[solemn gull]

That is pretty cool

[jagged dawn]

That is sick tbh

Also damn never realized how good of a deal the ultimate starter set is. $260 for two entire combat patrols + everything else in the box

Makes sense though, gets people into the hobby by being such a good deal and therefore nets GW money in the long run

https://x.com/thegraffitisoul/status/1730203210080784837?s=46&t=oWW_NnXMz5xZU9SUUTq01g

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[paper bluff]

I have made lore for my world eaters, and knight armies. Less so for my necrons and custodes

I feel like I should for custodes

[solemn gull]

Good luck with those names

[jagged dawn]

https://youtu.be/hq4F8Qjd_Og?si=C99dLuExNOuDcTCA

[past sphinx]

I want to get around to mk3 World eaters

I find just how many world eaters where at the choral city at the end, even with the nails quite interesting

[paper bluff]

What's funny is the world eaters paint scheme was an inversion of the warhounds paint scheme

[jagged dawn]

Problem: this aesthetic has stuck in our brain and renewed the desire to make a space wolves army
Problem 2: we also want to make a Retributors-themed deathwatch army

and one of these ideas is a whole lot easier because it’s 90% paint job based and does not require us to kitbash + learn how to paint decent looking fur

Space wolves, we love you, but all your cool units are over 10 years old and expensive

[pastel rampart]

https://vxtwitter.com/Spine_apples/status/1873733860313407972)

[glad spear]

There is a space bears kitbash 3d print

[jagged dawn]

We’ve seen them, looks cool, not quite the aesthetic though

Primal hounds is closer to what we were going for (also that’s another complaint to tack on. They’re space vikings yet lack a lot of upgrade kits that lean into that) https://www.myminifactory.com/users/greytidestudio/collection/primal-hounds

[solemn gull]

It’s really cool space bears have had such longevity for a YouTuber chapter with like 2 videos on it

[past sphinx]

Getting close

[compact gate]

do a deathwatch army with a large amount of space wolves in it

[paper bluff]

That fits and have preachers with them. Give em the full byzantinum

Side question, any one know a place with some fan made grey knights sculpts? I've been thinking about allies but I thing the GW greys need an update

[upper canopy]

https://youtu.be/KY0nzCIceOw?si=jYi6KKhQBpQ-jE7T

[past sphinx]

There is a shrinkingly small amount of office art of the chaos gods

[floral herald]

Yeah there’s very little

[paper bluff]

Good reason for it IMO

[floral herald]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/vjddepvh/warhammer-miniature-of-the-year-2024-who-won/
you can prolly guess

[thin ibex]

https://fixvx.com/WH40kbestof/status/1873805755310366775

[pastel rampart]

Bugs Bunny is the avatar of Cegorach the Laughing God, in this essay I will

[paper bluff]

https://youtu.be/3lcxjEc8CsQ?si=ggCdVACn97ZqAfMs

Also I just got an idea for a space marine chapter that would end up being cthonian/nostromo-ish

[unreal cosmos]

ooo?

[jaunty dawn]

lmao top place not even being a full kit

and two places being dark angels

3 in the top ten

[unreal cosmos]

I honestly believe that the dead space marine "banner" is what pushed that upgrade kit over the finish line to 1st

[paper bluff]

penal colony recruiting planet

[paper bluff]

you can see that AOS gets the better model designers lol

[desert jay]

The new DA kits are good models TBF

[jaunty dawn]

plenty of good stuff for 40k tbh

slop too yeah but like

yeah

[desert jay]

But also I'm doing the math in my head, there weren't really that many new kits in 2024, were there? Like under 20?

[jaunty dawn]

idk

all of kroot n stuff right

[desert jay]

Oh wait there was the big Kroot pile, for some reason thought that was late last year

Oh and like a third of the new kits this year were Tau codex (mostly Kroot but also the Vespids and an Ethereal)

[jaunty dawn]

all bangers tbh

[bright dove]

And then there's the perfect model: Warp Spiders

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408452338622267401/1323735989419769866/image.png?ex=677598b5&is=67744735&hm=5f8702a9ca605c85a85b6980923090878a47f9d677c74474f14e4ba613eb9a96&

[jagged dawn]

Yeah sure that’s not a terrible idea. Use some of the primal hounds upgrade kits to make some models more wolfy. Throw in some Horus heresy kits as proxys. We’re already planning on running a squad of sternguard using an old blood angels kit we have lying around so it just adds to the flavour

[pulsar holly]

Can't believe I'm being reposted, days later (This is a joke)

I really love that the Squats are finally getting more lore, and by extension the Kyn.

[jagged dawn]

Also it kinda of simplifies painting because both Retributors and Varangian guard SW are going to be painted in a darker grey colour

Because we’re following the painting guide this artist used for his Retributors army and the Varangian guard scheme we’ve been inspired by (credit to Graffiti soul) is broadly similar

sigh

Right how do you embed instagram posts?

[pastel rampart]

instagramez might wprk

[jagged dawn]

https://www.instagram.com/share/BAI3tH69PT

[pastel rampart]

Instagram reels are notoriously fucky.

[jagged dawn]

I think it just hates us

[pastel rampart]

Yeah I think it's just reels, better to link the post without that stuff since instagram doesn't want people to see things outside of their walled garden.

[jagged dawn]

alright fuck it we're on our laptop now
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moriartyminiatures

Intercessors finished. Commission complete. Looking forward to painting a very large dragon now. Aaaaand some Aeldari.

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moriartyminiatures

Retributors painting guide here as promised!

This covers the main areas that can be applied to all models in an army to achieve a decent tabletop standard; Armour colour, metallics and black areas. I will make a separate guide for plasma, leather etc, as trying to include them in this would have made the guide massive, and inceptors don't have ...

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or alternatively paint the wolves up in something closer to their HH paint scheme, ie mostly mechanicus standard grey, dawnstone and then some nuln oil to darken it down a bit

still grey, just a bit of a different shade to stand out

[pulsar holly]

Homie got the Squat dome

[meager quail]

I'm thinking of getting the gf a few minis and some paints to play around with. Any recommendations?

[floral herald]

Anything in particular catch your eye?

[desert jay]

A kill team or combat patrol box might be good b/c you can get the one thing and have something you can play with

[meager quail]

Honestly I haven't bought minis of any kind since I was like 14 and she doesn't know Warhammer at all -- I just thought she might have fun with it

And there's a Warhammer store a block away from my hotel

[desert jay]

Oh, more looking at the painting and such?

Would probably get a cool-looking character model then

[meager quail]

Yeah. Any thoughts?

[soft willow]

What does she like as far as SF or Fantasy?

[runic swallow]

Also, I’d mention historical minis are a joy and often cheap

[paper bluff]

I'd say kill team is good if you want the sxifi mini. However bloodbowl is easy to pick up and the minis are fun!

[solemn gull]

Bloodbowl mentioned! What is a trip that breaks your main blitzer’s neck!

[tardy vault]

Don't forget there are more mini manufacturers than just GW

Hell, there are some fantastic files online to print if you know someone with a really good 3D printer.

For paint, I love pro acryle for base paints. Nice bottles, easy to work with

[paper bluff]

Bloodbowl has some great fan made teams

[past sphinx]

winning model of the year by stealing 75% of the kit from other csm and just bringing more guys than all the other options, a true nightlord move AVE DOMINUS NOX

[novel cove]

https://x.com/KumratArt/status/1874277483593510996?t=PM381OwQ5tCBbat-k3qixQ&s=19

Kumratte (@KumratArt) on X

The Emperor when you aren't looking

Twitter · Jan 1, 2025, 2:12 AM

[meager quail]

hm

HM

HMMMMMM

I'm going to have to sue GW for trademark infringement

[pulsar cairn]

i know a good lawyer

[meager quail]

Foxlaw!

Vixy Foxlaw, Attorney at Fox Law

[cinder wraith]

waiting for cathay for Old world Day: ???

[meager quail]

Of Foxlaw and Foxlaw

[thin ibex]

Lore wise, a wraithknight will generally out fight an imperial knight?

[floral herald]

Yea

Like Eldar titans it also depends on the terrain

Boxed in a confined space the slower and more robust imperial walkers have their advantages and flighty ECM pumped Eldar walkers don’t

[tardy vault]

Managed to get my time to paint a snake down to 2 hours. Still not fast by any means, but feels good.

[still warren]

love the attention to detail on the bow!

[tardy vault]

Thank you!

Someone suggest red eyes for the bow and I think it looks great

I'm just ignoring the splotches around the belt rn lol

All packed up my paints already

[uneven ember]

freakin' sweet!

[pastel rampart]

Needs to be on a giant surfboard

[tired cairn]

Maybe it's surfing down a hillside on an implausibly sturdy asphalt one

[bright dove]

City Escape begins to play

[meager quail]

Storywriter starts playing

[azure heron]

A character idea I am shocked nobody has tapped into yet: a necron overlord, who was a child monarch when they went through biotransference, so you now have a killer robot with the personality of a spoiled, spiteful child.

[onyx elm]

Looks like there will finally be an update to W&G on Foundry plus support for Threat Assessment: Xenos

[dense sedge]

Daughters neat

[tardy vault]

Love em

🐍

[bright dove]

Ah, so already like all other Phaerons

[paper bluff]

I think they threw a few kids together canonically

[pastel rampart]

https://bsky.app/profile/dragoncobolt.bsky.social/post/3lepaclibns2e

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Theodora: "Painter, I wish you to paint me as an evil, but hot, GILF!"
Painter: "IT SHALL BE SO, LORD CAPTAIN!"

Bluesky · Jan 1, 2025, 6:53 PM

[jagged dawn]

Magnetizing war dogs tomorrow, finally getting our army started

Hell yeah

[mild glen]

Hell yeah!

[jagged dawn]

Painting likely won’t happen immediately but we have 4 dogs to assemble and that gives us a good core to work from

[jagged dawn]

Hmm, thinking about the possible deathwatch list we want to make. Problem is there’s so many space marine units available that it’s hard to decide

[floral herald]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/epxcccfa/heresy-thursday-keep-the-human-rabble-in-line-with-a-traitor-legion-overseer/

[floral herald]

Are you doing Deathwatch detachment or black armor space marines Deathwatch?

[paper bluff]

That is one great helmet

[floral herald]

Yeah!

[meager quail]

Got the gf an Age of Sigmar starter set

[deft crest]

E7 a show that couldn't be further than what 40k is about vibes wise

[meager quail]

The antithesis

[tardy vault]

Which one?

A Spearhead?

[meager quail]

Uh, Stormcast and Skaven?

[tardy vault]

So, one of the actual starter sets

[meager quail]

Yes

[tardy vault]

Kk

Good news: SCE are super easy to paint

Bad news: Skaven are not

[meager quail]

The idea is mostly that she might find the painting fun

[tardy vault]

Lotta beautiful models in those boxes tho

So she should have a good time.

Also, be sure to look up other SCE color schemes.

They're not all gold

[paper bluff]

I had a friend with a kid, wife, and working 2 jobs talk about getting into warhammer at a new year's party and was specifically talking about getting into it for the minis

I advised him not to get into warhammer. Said try bloodbowl, killteam, spearhead.

I Recommended bloodbowl above all because, simple enough to get into, you get a team in a box, plus lots of fan made teams.

You ever have to do that? Friend says "so about that warhammer thing, should I get into it?"

[deft crest]

I don't know anyone in my area that plays bloodbowl tbh. But kill team is def much more accessable for people for sure

[solemn gull]

I think it’s pretty easy to onboard people to bloodbowl compared to other games

Rules are dead simple and if you are American you probably already like American football

[paper bluff]

Once you get 2 people playing bloodbowl. Simple enough to go "eh sure, I'll buy/make a team"

To more people

[meager quail]

In the gf’s case she knows nothing about Warhammer I just think she might like painting models

[floral herald]

If you’re getting into it for the models the costs are a lot less substantial

Since you’re in no hurry to collect 2000 pts

In terms of game I always recommend “whatever people around you play” tbh

[tardy vault]

And collecting a lot of armies becomes far more reasonable imo

Like, collecting Mechanicus to play? Don't even try unless you got a couple thousand burning a hole in your pocket. Collecting them to paint? Great choice. Lotta small details to show off and have fun with so a single kit will keep ya occupied for a while.

[thin ibex]

Question, what are bladeguard vets in the lore? Vanguards are assault specialists, sternguard are position holders iirc

Are bladeguard like assault specialists but in chocolate flavor or something?

[solemn gull]

I think they are somewhere between terminators and assault marines

[floral herald]

They’re basically Primaris VanVets

[solemn gull]

Don’t primaris have their own vanguard veteran unit?

[floral herald]

Yes they’re called Bladeguard :p

More seriously I’m not aware of any primaris version of Vanvets

Which are still firstborn only

[pulsar cairn]

i only recently noticed that primaris have a different helmet

[jagged dawn]

Actual black spear detachment with some flavour thrown in

That flavour being Retributors and Varangian guard-esque space wolves for certain parts of the army list (art by Graffiti Soul)

[pulsar cairn]

The only way for chaos to get primaris is if they fall to chaos right?

[past sphinx]

and crime, dont forget that

[pulsar cairn]

crime?

Wowie

Oh yeah

Not every traitor is a chaos lad

[floral herald]

I don’t imagine they can’t just use the organs and such

[pulsar cairn]

You could very well be a pirate

[floral herald]

But there aren’t organized large numbers of chaos primaris yet

[pulsar cairn]

Probably

[jaunty dawn]

over time they'll probably figure out how to do use the new implants but afair its something bile was working on

ie hadnt figured out

[pulsar cairn]

Think they'll have the actual method to make a primaris figured out?

Or will they have their own thing that is equivalent?

I feel like option B would be more interesting

[jaunty dawn]

theoretically option b is what theyve had the whole time

[past sphinx]

there is a ticking countdown before a CSM primaris character

probably a rather long one though

[pulsar cairn]

[jaunty dawn]

with primaris only bringing up loyal marines to the level of marine with chaos boons

[pulsar cairn]

[runic swallow]

Primaris Heretic Astartes Lieutenant!

[jaunty dawn]

original timeline dark imperium realistically theres no way csm wouldnt have access to primaris especially within large organised forces like black legion

retcon timeline dark imperium its just something bile is on his way to doing and will probably complete within like, a few years of gulliman returning

[floral herald]

There’s definitely some especially post goreflood

[runic swallow]

Personally I’d prefer genehounds but I doubt we’re getting em

[jaunty dawn]

goreflood might have gotten enough of the medical staff too

i mean even if bile figures out how to rubicon etc doesnt mean he'll make just chaos primaris

[floral herald]

EC are getting a codex

[runic swallow]

Don’t make me hope

[desert jay]

Bile and Beli have even chatted at least once

[solemn gull]

I feel like chaos primaris should of existed since like the day after primaris I don't know why it's taking so long

[desert jay]

(Yes I shortened Belisarius to Beli for the bit)

[pulsar cairn]

Who's beli? Is it the mechanicum lad?

[jaunty dawn]

i think its pretty much established that bile isnt considered part of ec in a meta sense

[desert jay]

Yeah Belisarius Cawl

[jaunty dawn]

firmly codex csm

[floral herald]

Cause the chaos range fucks and it’s easier to make up new scronglors for them than the codex

[jaunty dawn]

yeah the reason is entirely that theres no point in making csm primaris minis dbjddbd

[desert jay]

How old are the Legionairre and Havoc kits?

[jaunty dawn]

one of the functions of primaris range is to distinguish the two ranges more

tail end of 8th edition

same age as all phobos other than reivers

[solemn gull]

I'm just saying at least 1 image in a chaos codex of a primaris marine with some new shoulder pads would be nice

[desert jay]

Okay yeah that's modern

[jaunty dawn]

mhm

[floral herald]

Both 2019 yeah

[desert jay]

Oh Chaos Termies got a refresh then too

[jaunty dawn]

raptors are old, chaos bikers are super old

and vehicles are all old

[floral herald]

And possessed and chosen are newer

[jaunty dawn]

other than that the csm range is pretty much refreshed

[desert jay]

Rhino-chassis vehicles are ancient but they really don't look it

[jaunty dawn]

i think vehicles age well in general cause the shapes are pretty simple

[desert jay]

Some aged better than others

But the current Rhino kit (for non-Sororitas) is from 2002

[jaunty dawn]

like theres not really that much different between the two decade old mars rhino and the two year old deimos rhino in terms of level of detail

the sisters rhino is still the 2002 one :)

just a replacement doors and front plate

[desert jay]

It's got the censers too

[jaunty dawn]

theres shared sprues between the exorcist/immolator/castigator but they all use a different top so its like, not actually buildable as a weird rhino with heavy bolter

[desert jay]

Ahh, right

[jaunty dawn]

you can kitbash the deimos rhino with the upgrade sprue pretty good though

rather than having a weird mars rhino with deimos front plate

[desert jay]

But yeah the 3e Rhino and Land Raider still look good, the 1e Rhino looks kinda dated, the 1e Land Raider looks super dated

[jaunty dawn]

oh yeah for sure

but all the early 2000s stuff like eldar, tau holds up pretty well

[desert jay]

Tau's funny because you gotta squint to find the differences between the entire initial range and the modern stuff, even in the infantry

Krootox probably the most different, and still the new one mostly just looks better-detailed

[jaunty dawn]

oh the new kroot are much better

but its pretty subtle in the carnivores themselves

like the eldar guardian refresh kinda

[floral herald]

I think this is interesting because it’s right around/during GW’s transition to digital model design

[rocky shale]

Old guardians only really look different when standing next to each other, or when looking a t the gun platform

The platform is more noticeable imo since it's a lot less chunky

[jaunty dawn]

its more that they dont look different until you see them next to each other and then you see how much of a vast improvement it is

[jagged dawn]

We have learned that our normal citadel glue isn’t good enough to keep the magnets in place so we’re using superglue

But on the plus side, the assembly works

[rocky shale]

Isn't citadel glue plastic glue?

That definitely won't work on magnets

[pastel rampart]

Yeah lol

[floral herald]

Yeah you gotta use super glue or epoxy

[pastel rampart]

I use both when attaching magnets that aren't in a pre-drilled hole, like under a base.

Superglue to get it on fast, then 5-minute epoxy for the final "this is not gonna snap off" seal.

[jagged dawn]

Yeah we know, wanted to just try

But our dad has superglue handy so we’ll use that

[jagged dawn]

Not a 100% perfect seal but pretty good

1/4 done

We’ve got another box of war dogs after this one so we’re confident we’ll nail the drilling soon

[past sphinx]

man i miss relic wargear

[jagged dawn]

Haha!

Can’t decide if we want to magnetize the torso-leg joint as well, still waiting on our shipment of 8x2 magnets to arrive

[paper bluff]

Idk if that one crusade that was going to take out angron and was able to manifest khorne in real-time and it made a crusade aside from the grey knights become khornate minions

[thin ibex]

So an inceptor is in Gravis but a suppressor is not

[desert jay]

Yeah Suppressors are in a odd armor pattern called Omnis that has features of both Phobos and Gravis

[unreal cosmos]

if necessary I'd sort them into the Phobos pile just by virtue of being in the Vanguard box forever

[jaunty dawn]

i think technically omnis is sneaky gravis rather than heavy phobos

technically a lot of the parts that are stripped down shake out to being tacticus pattern so thats the hot take option xP

[past sphinx]

Their a weird kinda dead kit aint they

Obliterators and demon spider got their own box together eventually

[tardy vault]

Unit done over my Christmas vacation

[pulsar cairn]

Are the bows also snakes

Or just snake shaped

[paper bluff]

Hmmm, would Erebus work for the imperium if he got a better deal than the stuff from chaos?

[tardy vault]

For my army? Also snakes. They're just too cute to not be little snakes

I don't care about the logistics of making an actual living snake into a bow

They're adorable so it works

[junior robin]

probably not, seems that ||he joined chaos as a teen|| acording to lexicanum

[jaunty dawn]

oh, huh, thats new

from the standalone tempestus aquilon instructions

[paper bluff]

Just for entirely selfish reasons

[solemn gull]

Thank you Erebus for making 40k happen

[paper bluff]

I'd more blame the silent king

Maybe things go slightly different without erebus. The silent king can 100% be blamed for 40k and the absolute state of things

He's why the eldar happen, he's why the kork/orks happen, indirectly, his people made the pharos and the tyranids looking at the milky way, the c'tan shards and the adeptus mechanicus, he caused the warp to start getting used for war. We know his people messed up reality some how with the death of the flayed one

[pulsar holly]

Wonder when Genestealers are gonna be added as enemies to Wrath & Glory. I know they're at least hinted at in Imperium Maledictum.

[solemn gull]

weren't they in the core rulebook?

[glad spear]

They're in the core and definitly in the xenos book

There's an entire chapter dedicated to a bunch of genestealers

[south axle]

The warning about there only being 1 copy?

[jaunty dawn]

ye

i meant to clarify at the time and got distracted haha

but yeah never seen it before and definitely wasnt in the hivestorm instructions

[pulsar cairn]

Hehe

[pulsar holly]

O.O?

Wait in the original core book or C7’s?

[pulsar cairn]

I would say yes, even Lorgar seem to notice he was serving the gods for selfish reasons

Unlike lorgar who did it out of devotion

I feel like he would pull a Be'lakor if he could

But like this is still a big if

Cause like he was a chaos cultist from a young age and all

[glad spear]

C7

[finite compass]

I mean he was doing it for power, but he was also doing it for faith

Considering him and Kor Phaeron still held to the precepts of the Old Faith after Lorgar reformed it

[paper bluff]

Yeah. Old faith was more.... formal chaos worship though they had the good aspects forward

[uneven ember]

I've always liked this idea for Chaos worship
one of my villains in a DH game from way back was an Imperial priest who was having a crisis of faith because he'd never had the experience of divinity
so he went Chaos because they were willing to put up

[runic swallow]

A “these gods speak horrors, but they speak” kinda thing?

[bright dove]

Erebus wishes he could be a Belakor.

[uneven ember]

Exactly!
You can talk about the nature of the revelations Chaos gives, but it's not short on them. You don't need to wonder if your god is listening to your prayers when you can plainly see the marks of devotion (nightmarish mutations) on the faithful

[past sphinx]

the emperor protects but chaos makes my gun shoot sith lightning

[uneven ember]

"Quinten has noticed that the Emperor tends to best protect His faithful Guardsmen who make the most judicious use of hard cover."

[runic swallow]

God helps those who help themselves (to armor, hard cover, and artillery support)

[past sphinx]

god loves the navy, space or otherwise

[dense sedge]

I’m doing a crusade this year

Bringing my gsc

[jagged dawn]

Hell yeah!

Have fun

[sour sequoia]

Necrons
Awakened Dynasty
Strike Force (2000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Catacomb Command Barge (155 Points)
  • 1x Gauss cannon
  • 1x Staff of light
  • 1xResurrection Orb
  • Enhancements: Phasal Subjugator (Aura)

Chronomancer (65 Points)
  • 1x Chronomancer’s stave

C’tan Shard of the Nightbringer (305 Points)
  • 1x Gaze of death
  • 1x Scythe of the Nightbringer

C’tan Shard of the Void Dragon (300 Points)
  • 1x Canoptek tail blades
  • 1x Spear of the Void Dragon
  • 1x Voltaic storm

Imotekh the Stormlord (100 Points)
  • Warlord
  • 1x Gauntlet of Fire
  • 1x Staff of the Destroyer

Plasmancer (80 Points)
  • 1x Plasmic lance
  • Enhancements: Veil of Darkness

Technomancer (105 Points)
  • 1x Staff of light
  • Enhancements: Nether-realm Casket

BATTLELINE

Immortals (150 Points)
  • 10x Immortal
     ◦ 10x Close combat weapon
     ◦ 10x Tesla carbine

Immortals (70 Points)
  • 5x Immortal
     ◦ 5x Close combat weapon
     ◦ 5x Gauss blaster

OTHER DATASHEETS

Canoptek Wraiths (230 Points)
  • 6x Canoptek Wraith
     ◦ 6x Particle caster
     ◦ 6x Vicious claws

Lokhust Destroyers (35 Points)
  • 1x Close combat weapon
  • 1x Gauss cannon

Monolith (400 Points)
  • 4x Death ray
  • 1x Particle whip
  • 1x Portal of exile```

Crons for a tourney today

How do I look

[solemn gull]

Lot of heros

Expect your enemies to go for secondaries around killing them

[sour sequoia]

Plasmancer in 10-man
Chronomancer and Orikan in 5 man

[sour sequoia]

Unavoidable in a lot of necrons 😔 90% of characters are just unit buffs, or ctan

Part of me wants to try shatterstar but I don’t own any vehicles besides the CCB and that monolith yet, I’m probably buying an Ark today

[paper bluff]

Don't chronomancer and orikan do similar things?

Well movment aside

[sour sequoia]

Chrono is -1 to shooting and a post-shoot scoot, Orikan is a 4+ invuln

But he’s also 120 to the chrono’s 65 is my reasoning

[paper bluff]

Oooooooh i was thinking of orikan in lychguard

[sour sequoia]

CCB is. A little pricy but I’m using that to buff control scores or heal the monolith and the wraiths / apply awakened dynasty to the monolith

[sour sequoia]

You are never gonna believe what infantry unit Orikan can’t join

[paper bluff]

Tell you how much I use him

[sour sequoia]

Orikan and technomancers got nerfed and can’t join Lychguard ever since the codex dropped

Now the trick if you use crypteks there at all is using the chronomancer’s lone shot to proc its ability and scoot the whole slow-ass unit

Translocation shroud overlord usually seems like better play to me though

[paper bluff]

When you're running tesla guns absolutely. That gun has assult

[sour sequoia]

Oh I mean I’ve seen people run chronos in lychguard

Even tho the scoot means no charging

[paper bluff]

Oh with the lychguard running him. I thought we were talk about immortals

[floral herald]

Bespoke join lists are such a 10e pet peeve of mine

I get why because I’ve read the alternative multi-paragraph rules but it bugs me anyway haha

[sour sequoia]

I’d feel less bad abt it if they didn’t suddenly have Technomancers joining canoptek wraiths and making better, more flexible lychguard bricks from the moment the codex dropped

Necron join lists are really dumb

[paper bluff]

I feel that same "I get why" feeling about the res orb change

[paper bluff]

The death rays might be a bit anemic on the monolith when you've already got 2 c'tan shards IMO.

[sour sequoia]

I kinda feel that but the gauss fluxes have never done work for me 😭

Will keep it in mind and do some math after today see if it made a difference

[thin ibex]

i just like them cause its more dice rolls

i think death rays are objectively the better choice, but i really like more chances to hit

[floral herald]

Yeah they seem really strange

[sour sequoia]

Upside is it’s BS 2+ death rays with the CCB nearby

[floral herald]

There's a few weird CSM ones as well but at least they got rid of the weirdest one in the codex

(Abaddon being able to join Legionaries but not Chosen)

[thin ibex]

awakened dynasty is all about being a join list?

I like the champions of russ detach for sw, which is kind of a join list too

i do wish normal necron lords were still a thing, but i guess with the different cryptek types they already have loads of character options for joins

[sour sequoia]

There are as many overlord sculpts as there are space marine lieutenants

With an ability that only applies once a turn 🫠

[thin ibex]

its just strange to me that like... overlords are very high ranking in lore, having lords to delegate to would make sense t ome

[sour sequoia]

Thats 90% of why I miss the lord tbh is its ability was Useful beyond the first

1” to movement is worth its weight in gold in crons

[floral herald]

Oh are lords still a thing?

I thought they were renamed lords

[thin ibex]

nah necron lords are gone, its just overlords

two kinds of overlord and like... what, 4 types of cryptek?