#Warhammer and Such

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upper canopy
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"No, that's my hobby."

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"My ART is spreading every molecule of a Space Marine across my entire fortress, laying them like paint across the entirety of the grandeur, all the while the Marine is sentient and able to feel everything that happens to it."

dense sedge
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what's it called?

weary dragon
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Dark eldar love evilmaxxing. They go so ridiculously hard on being awful that its almost funny

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You also had that one haemoculi that loved getting eaten by monsters

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one of the most ridiculous haemonculi to unfortunately live and keep getting brought back

dense sedge
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my thoughts exactly, they could find a way to torture a slaaneshi cultist (although the answer there is just 'isolation chamber)

weary dragon
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or that one haemonculi that turned himself into a living light beam so he raced across the galaxy calling himself the biggest genius to ever live until he got himself caught by the other haemonculi

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cartoon supervillain shit that one was

dense sedge
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wasn't there also a time a haemonculi grafted a genestealer arm to themselves and accidentally led to a large scale GSC uprising in Cormoragh

still warren
upper canopy
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I love how frogs and toads just don't have brains

desert jay
weary dragon
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they were grafting tyranid parts to themselves as a new fashion statement

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....and then that happened yeah

thin ibex
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Weird canonical things that have happened in 40k.

  • Tau making a virus the Tyranids couldn't adapt to fast enough.
  • Nurgle Plague wiping out an entire necron fleet
  • Kaldor Draigo
  • Drukhari figuring out how to torture Necrons
  • Catachan's ability to have enough population to produce combat regiments
  • The fluctuating power scaling of harlequins and custodes resulting in them getting slaughtered or being untouchable depending on the narrative
desert jay
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TIL that Draigo is just stuck in the Warp forever, still serves as Supreme Grand Master

floral herald
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Gotta be some kind of spite thing there's no way he can be reliably in command

weary dragon
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The deldar also at one point decided to steal a moon or planet getting overrun by Tyranids so they could experiment on the kidnapped Tyranids just for the funzies

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not completely surprising though considering they steal stars on occasion

glad spear
pulsar cairn
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Question

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Gingerbread stuff is not a thing where i live

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Do people eat their gingebread creations? Or are those left to rot?

floral herald
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It depends

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Sometimes they get eaten

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Sometimes they last a little too long and get gross and stale and no one does

pulsar cairn
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i see

paper bluff
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"We don't want to help people. We want to torture them and cause them pain!"

pastel rampart
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But enough about the Republican party :v

paper bluff
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The only difference is that the dark eldar would never let another dark eldar get ahead of them and wouldn't let a mindless figure head be in charge

glad spear
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Hurting each other is just as fun as hurting other people -dark eldar

bright dove
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There is room at the top, but it's all occupied by Vect. 😛

glad spear
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It was a little funny but at the same time, I could see it happening from the Tau side since they actually innovate. Also like a majority of the Farsight enclave population died during that whole splinter fleet encounter

thin ibex
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its a weird canonical thing because it requires a factions key feature to be bypassed to succeed instead of worked around; i.e. the tyranids ability to adapt

glad spear
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Yeah, O'Vesa, the chief scientist, called it a self replicating nano machine virus that worked off the DNA code of the fleet after the scientists got eaten and then became airborne based on the fleet stripping the atmosphere of the planet

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In the 6th edition codex, there's a mention of how the Tau accidentally caused "many" suns to go supernova by draining them of energy, and they were working on a sun killer weapon off of the accident

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But they stopped the research because it was too unwieldy for them

silk verge
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bruh

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that shield lmao

paper bluff
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Hates eldar?

jaunty dawn
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all those soulstones hanging out like the ghost brothers in stardust

pastel rampart
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Dude got a lot of gym badges.

past sphinx
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Excellent Scrungos again munda team

floral herald
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Navy guys or spacers or something?

past sphinx
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Sump sea ferrymen

floral herald
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Ah

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Dive suit and space suit can be hard to tell apart in 40k haha

thin ibex
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why does a sump sea ferryman need to be that jacked

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homeboy is massive

tepid stratus
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Homie is definitely related to a goliath

past sphinx
jaunty dawn
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ohhh shit

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that's dope

unreal cosmos
paper bluff
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I wonder how smart they are

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Also, those 2 are very henchmen coded

tired cairn
finite compass
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Kaldor Draigo is just Loyalist Doom Rider

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They both appear at random and then get yeeted back to the warp at random

soft willow
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Does Draigo have a sweet bike though?

finite compass
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You can't have a bike and terminator armor at the same time.

pastel rampart
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It arrived today and I assembled it. Not terribly difficult to do, but there's a few snags that didn't make it seamless:

  • One of the top holes was a real pain, the bolt didn't want to catch. I managed to muscle it in there.
  • No pre-drilled holes for the doors. Not terribly difficult, it's soft material, but still.
  • One of the shelves was bent along the rim. Easy enough to bend back into shape with my bare hands, it's about as tough as a cookie sheet
  • Finish was a bit scuffed. I chalk that up to Amazon warehouses being trash and probably got dinged a bunch during transport. I'm gonna cover this thing with stickers anyway.
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It's made of wood so it's not light, and I wonder how well the carrying handle will hold up with a full load of models. But overall I don't think it's a bad price point for a case.

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--oh also the pexiglass had a cover on both sides and there wasn't an easy way to remove that, had to bust out the x-acto to get a peel going on one corner. Don't think I damaged it any.

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I might put a catch on the door because I don't know how well the magnetic closing will keep it from opening. I would've liked one with one door on it and not split in two like that but it's whatever. You also can't really see into it so I'm wondering if I can get some sort of light going on in there.

glad spear
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You got a picture of this whole thing put together? @pastel rampart

pastel rampart
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Yeah, just that it's sunset now and my living room light isn't too condusive to photos.

glad spear
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Looks nice

pastel rampart
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It's a heavy sonnuvabitch.

paper bluff
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The plastic ones are decent

pastel rampart
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They look it, I just wish they weren't 100 bux or more.

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This one was, y'know, half that haha.

pastel rampart
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BEWARE THE OIL CAN

jagged dawn
unreal cosmos
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Never gets old to me, love the energy of the pic

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BTW, I may have enticed a coworker with necrons but am feeling guilty about the potential time/money sink of Warham, how's the Hierotek Circle in the new Kill Team edition?

floral herald
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Top tier atm

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They’re a lot of fun, albeit a relatively complicated the execute team

unreal cosmos
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That might appeal to him lol. Thanks!

verbal tangle
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You know what? Fuck you.
[turns your slightly outdated tiktok meme into a series of mechanics for an RPG almost no one plays]

pulsar cairn
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the only reason i'm a 40k fan and i'm not poor

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is cause they dont sell em here in brazil

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actually

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i'm kind of poor

paper bluff
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There is decent table top sim digital versions of the army

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And Brazil has those avant-garde pizzas so it all evens out

pulsar cairn
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maybe vicksyBork

meager quail
paper bluff
meager quail
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Ah, okay, I ... appreciate these as art objects

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I hope they also have normal pizza

pastel rampart
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They don't.

paper bluff
past sphinx
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Oh hey omegon

pine matrix
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Omegon next 40k Primarch let's go

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Or I'll take this for a Alpha Legion praetor 👀

thin ibex
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pramris primarch lieutenant with power spear

past sphinx
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Likely that one dude in harrowmaster who got the pale spear heads, AL characters are scarce

upper bluff
verbal tangle
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Thank you kindly

junior robin
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or its a double bluff and its actually Rogal dorn who got stabbed by it again and its not permanently stuck in his chest.

glad spear
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Turns out it's a necron dude

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Or something silly like that

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Instead of gigachad alpharius

tepid stratus
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I will only accept Trazyn stealing the pale spear as consolation

floral herald
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Why are people assuming alpha legion?

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I guess that forked spear/bident is pretty iconic

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But this one looks different to me idk

tepid stratus
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Exact same design of the blade

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Connector bit is a bit different but otherwise

floral herald
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The prongs are also different

south axle
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Said basically the same thing in a different chat I'm in

tepid stratus
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I think I see what you mean? Rear flaring (I don't even know if that's the right word) is the same but the front flaring splits into two points on the FW mini and a single point on the rumor engine

floral herald
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My reflexive one was the DoW Necron Lord’s staff of light but that actually looks less similar

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Yeah it’s clearly similar but not identical

jaunty dawn
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it might be a simplified design because plastic isn't quite as good as resin

floral herald
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maybe after 10,000 years the edges just got worn down

junior robin
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also the one from this cover is also different

jaunty dawn
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but also if it was hh, it would only be plastic if it was a Black Library model, really

junior robin
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(chaft is different here because that part are still in the hands of the inquisitors)

tepid stratus
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It's a crone sword so it can change shape over time to match the wielder

tepid stratus
south axle
floral herald
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Wait it’s a cronesword?

jaunty dawn
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I don't think that's confirmed

tepid stratus
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It's rumored to be an esoteric weapon of eldar origin but no hard confirmation

jaunty dawn
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pre eldar

tepid stratus
pastel rampart
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Note: searching for warhammer stickers is a fraught affair.

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Like no I do not want hentai stickers of Tau on my carrying case, thanks.

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On the other hand this whips ass

south axle
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Lexicanum mentions that the Pale Spear predates the rise of Eldar

tired cairn
tepid stratus
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There's conflicting sources on the fate of the 5th sword according to lexicanum

tired cairn
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It is stated that the Crone Goddess of Souls and Fate lost the hand when she sought the wisdom that flowed through her own veins, and tricked the God Khaine into cutting it off

Idk, is this really something you need to trick Khaine into doing?

jaunty dawn
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kinda

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oh

misty violet
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Getting them to take just the hand is probably the real trick

jaunty dawn
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the trick was 'get her banshee daughters to bother him and then plainly asking'

tired cairn
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lmao

jaunty dawn
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and also it was a deal cause khaine got to be little a girl as a treat

tired cairn
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I too love tricking people (asking for a mutual beneficial exchange)

tepid stratus
pastel rampart
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Also whips ass.

jaunty dawn
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the typo not being in the title is weird haha

tired cairn
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He got the aspect of the banshees. Though I'm sure he belittled girls that are bad at fighting at some point

jaunty dawn
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so it's 'be a little girl' but like, 'a little girl' is referring to the amount of girl and not the size of a whole girl

tired cairn
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Also the girl is a fearsome elder warrior

paper bluff
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The spear could be a deepkin spear

tired cairn
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I'm also at the point where girl has been said enough times that it looks misspelled

jaunty dawn
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sdfhkj

paper bluff
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Also you know what. Orks are non-binary icons

floral herald
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Something something “Ghazkhull is a he/him” deathwatch marine

bright dove
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Ghazkhull gets whatever pronouns they want. 😛

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I like to think it would become a collection if it were physical.

floral herald
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No no this is a Deathwatch marine telling an ork how to refer to Ghazkhull

sonic hare
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assigned male at deathwatch

meager quail
# paper bluff

Noise Marines and Ultramarines are objectively correct

jaunty dawn
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blackshield femarine giving falx sideye through her helmet

untold swallow
upper canopy
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I love the last line so much

desert jay
# floral herald

Which brings up the possibility of "Orks that got into sexangender but don't think 'boyz' is a gender word consequently going by 'femboyz'"

floral herald
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Lmfao

bright dove
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'femladz'

pulsar cairn
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Isnt "sexangender" an ork quote?

desert jay
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Yeah it's in that excerpt Cyan posted

pulsar cairn
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Oh yeah that's the one vicksyLUL

unreal cosmos
pulsar cairn
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I mean makes sense that an ork would find it funny

unreal cosmos
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(spotting a sisters of battle force) oi it's them umie femboyz

meager quail
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Yes this is good

paper bluff
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Boyz is like dude. By way of use, non-gendered but with gendered origin.

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I like the idea of the ork boss being a they/them though. Good in a royal sense

thin ibex
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PhilosiphOrk pondering the difference between da Ladz, da Boyz, da Mob. Wondering if Mek is a sexangender.

white mural
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Any advice on a cheap magnetized way of storing minis?

tepid stratus
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Large plastic bin and a cookie sheet

thin ibex
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ideally bin with a lid

paper bluff
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Yeah bin with ferrous baking sheet

rocky shale
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You can also buy galvanized flashing sheets at home depot pretty cheap for a stainless steel base

unreal cosmos
raw vessel
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Do you think orks see repenta charging into battle without armor and with massive oversized swords and think "finally a hummie wot knowz 'ow to fight proppah"

thin ibex
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Well orks wear armor, but I think they respect it

past sphinx
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given orks i think they would just call you a moron

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cant have a good fight if you just fall over from the first shoota hit

thin ibex
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oh yeah ork respect still includes trash talk and insults while they try to kill you

pulsar cairn
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i feel like you'll get ork respect if ur tough and maybe snazzy

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probably depends a bit on the clan too wixelsNodders

thin ibex
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for sure, its just that ork respect isn't expressed through admiration or like vocal support; its expressed through wanting to krump you more

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like the way they celebrate yarrick is kind of an aberration

desert jay
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I think most Orks see Yarrick and are like "oh, e's too tuff fer me to win a krump, ay gotta leave dat to da warboss"

thin ibex
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bosses see yarrick as an opportunity, boys are scared of ol bale eye

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and ghaz see him as a personal rival

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only let him live because he represented an opportunity for a satisfying battle

pulsar cairn
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good enemies hard to find wixelsNodders

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honestly if you live to fight and that's fun for you

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it makes sense to let the good enemy live

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it's all you do anyway so keeping someone who will 100% give you a worthy battle alive is a clever choice

floral herald
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Thinking about rosters for the Phobos team in KT3

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They’re a tricky one since they have a lot of good operatives and only 6 slots

pulsar cairn
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hi cyan

floral herald
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Currently feeling:

  • Reiver Sarge
  • Reiver Warrior
  • Comms
  • Marksman
  • Helix
  • Veteran? Voxbreaker? Saboteur?
floral herald
desert jay
floral herald
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For equipment prolly

  • utility grenades
  • more utility grenades
  • knives
  • ???
thin ibex
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what makes the reiver sarge attractive?

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for the last one, veteran seems to be the best generalist

floral herald
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Incursor does have the benefit of saturate if you’re up against cover likers

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But otherwise he’s got a P1 pistol and better melee and more mobility for little downside

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And Phobos struggles to get good melee guys

jaunty dawn
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I don't think you get to take utility grenades twice

floral herald
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Phobos has a special “more utility grenades” faction gear

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Oh good point

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It doesn’t stack I just get 4

thin ibex
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i think i wanna try and make a list oriented around flash gits

floral herald
dense idol
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played my first game of kill team today

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only about five months after buying the first team in an entirely different edition

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we used a bunch of boxes we had lying around because the volkus terrain was just a little too much to sensibly transport

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rules were forgotten, mistakes were made, i still have no idea how cover actually works, but it was good times all around

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and i'm not just saying that because i won by a wide-ass margin

floral herald
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Haha

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What were the teams?

dense idol
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my stingwings versus their aquilons

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it took until the second round for them to understand how drop deployment actually worked, which probably didn't help on top of everything else

floral herald
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Oh wow nice

dense idol
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especially since we ran out of time at the start of turning point three, at which point i had the 2:1 numbers advantage and all three control points captured and we agreed on a win by decision

floral herald
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Stingwings are tricky to pilot

past sphinx
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all ogryn team when

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ogryn sappers now thats a unit with some chest hair

floral herald
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That might be soon

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Ratling snipers team can apparently take Ogryns

past sphinx
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yeah, they look quite interesting

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my real hopes are for a team thats just Abhuman rabble

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just a bunch of weirdos

floral herald
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Ratlings might be the closest it gets for a while

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Unless we get felinids and nightsiders and such

past sphinx
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gimme those loyalist beastmen and catgirl

floral herald
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I'd love an oops all abhumans team

soft willow
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You've already got two.

thin ibex
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yeah we have ratlings

soft willow
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Three then.

thin ibex
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whatre the other two?

soft willow
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Salvagers and Jaegers. 🙃

thin ibex
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lol

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fair enough

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as far as classic guard abhumans we do have ratlings already, full ogryns would be fun

floral herald
thin ibex
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i wonder what their mechanics would be

floral herald
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Real eclectic squad

thin ibex
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obviously big, oviously tough

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bad at objectives?

soft willow
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You want an Ogre, a felinid, and a pair of ratlings walk into a kill team.

floral herald
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We might be able to run all Ogs in that team

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I'd expect them to look kinda like gun user gellerpox?

soft willow
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Honestly give that to me as a squad in Agents and I'm all for it.

floral herald
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Yeah that'd be sick

thin ibex
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doesnt gellerpox have a lot of chaff?

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all ogryns would be no chaff

floral herald
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I meant for the team as a whole

thin ibex
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ahh

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im still talking about an ogryn kt

floral herald
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Gellerpox is approx equal numbers of big guys, medium guys, and little guys

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But I think a sort of ~18w 4+ save goons could be cool for Ogryns

soft willow
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One Watcher, and a swarm of servo-skulls.

floral herald
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As a pack of 6-7 "elites"

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Though jfc that's a LOT of wounds

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If more than 6 anyway

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Most Kill Teams are 80-100 total wounds

thin ibex
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Ogryn Skull Crusher, Ogryn Bone 'ead, Ogryn Guncarrier, Ogryn Ammo Jock

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hmm

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what other specialized ogryns to exist

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bullgryn is technically also an ogryn right?

floral herald
thin ibex
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oh yeah

floral herald
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Come catch these hands

thin ibex
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Ogryn Wrestler for sure

floral herald
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I think a bombardier would also work

thin ibex
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Ogryn Bodyguard i guess could be another specialist

floral herald
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Yeah that should work pretty well

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I bet Breaka Boyz could also work ok as a proxy team

zinc field
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Ogryn Big'ead - an Ogryn psyker

floral herald
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I was thinking about that but they're super rare

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Maybe a little high octane for normal KT fare

jaunty dawn
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ogryn are gonna be in the ratling team aiui?

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just not in the box

zinc field
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ok, but their main attack could be called 'Cast Fist'

floral herald
zinc field
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and the overcharged version could be 'Cast Bigger Fist'

floral herald
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We had been discussing a potential only ogryn team but that team might be able to be all ogryns

jaunty dawn
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oh, oops

floral herald
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I kinda hope you can do all big guys for it

pulsar cairn
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Cyan wixelsSit whats ur favorite ork clan?

floral herald
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Bad moons

finite compass
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Blood Axes for me. Because the idea of Orks trying to act like a proper military amuses me greatly.

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Also I love Kommandos

upper canopy
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Also Bad Moons for me

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I am addicted to dakka

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adakkted

bright dove
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Goffs for me.

lofty warren
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freebootaz

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technically not a clan

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but they are treated as one

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in terms of proppa clanz, i like deathskulls

pastel rampart
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I liked deathskulls up until I painted about 3,000-odd points worth of them.

lofty warren
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skillz issue

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simply dont paint

upper canopy
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Gecko don't be rude

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that is clearly a skulls issue

finite compass
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Also I actually love painting Camo

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And the Blood Axe thing of "Camo, but it's often not the right Camo" is also amusing

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Old school Looted Wagon

lofty warren
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the fact that looted shit doesnt have any rules structure now is a travesty

pastel rampart
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To be fair, actual looted vehicles--as in, they used the original rules from that other army's codex--hasn't existed since 3rd.

floral herald
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Yeah even as far back as 4e they were basically a not!Rhino you could tape an unreasonable number of guns to

lofty warren
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yeah

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abominative

pastel rampart
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Which is like, Fine™️ even if it doesn't have much flavor to it.

lofty warren
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there were a couple editions with "build your own" rules, no?

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in chapter approveds and whatnot

pastel rampart
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Back in 3rd.

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CA had both a "build your own vehicle" and "build your own tyranid" rules.

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The vehicle ones was the first instance of flyers too!

tired cairn
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Not sure that's "instead of heresy"

mental birch
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Just blasphemy

paper bluff
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Can just be fanfiction like date's inferno

desert jay
paper bluff
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Canonically, there are romance novels in the imperium.

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The ones we know of were set on the paradise world of Kreig (bit out of date) and had a title like a Japanese light novel

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"My love for you is only second to the God-Emperor" or it was something like that

hard whale
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you say out of date, I say period piece

jaunty dawn
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oh breachers getting 12 total was a typo evidently

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so playable from the box again now

floral herald
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I’m not sure if it was a typo or just poorly thought out

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Hoping the team gets some compensation in the balance dataslate though

jaunty dawn
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uh it was a blue fix and not a magenta fix so it was being presented as a typo

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which like

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yeah they could be lying

floral herald
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I don’t mean lying I just mean someone not checking how many models the box can make when the buffed the robits

pastel rampart
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I have been making ends meet selling warhammer stuff for 5 years now, and honestly, these are the worst space marines I have ever seen. Woof. These are for the hobbyist with something to prove.

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

silk verge
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we have the technology

pastel rampart
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I don't know if we CAN

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Like...you could maybe Orkify it???

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But like holy shit this is truly ugly.

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I'm pretty sure that's Testor's enamel red on there.

silk verge
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oh nevermind it’s fucked

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casualty of war

pastel rampart
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Yeah there's no coming back from enamel on plastic.

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I suppose it could be repurposed for terrain as wreckage.

silk verge
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lmfao

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pretend the thick bits of enamel are mud

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put paste over it

sonic hare
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7000 lbs of green stuff

floral herald
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Wreckage might save it

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Wait what's testor's enamel?

past sphinx
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oh

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oh no

pastel rampart
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Testor's enamel paints, usually for model cars and such.

floral herald
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ahh

pastel rampart
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Absolute bitch and a half to actually take off plastic.

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If you see enamel paint on a miniature you may as well resign yourself to just painting over it.

pulsar cairn
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i feel like AoS has a lot of cooler minis vicksyThink

thin ibex
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honestly i think it just depends on your tastes, though i think AOS does flying minis a bit better

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but also they're so much bigger

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and more breakable

past sphinx
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its the AoS > 40k Necromunda > Warcry chain

floral herald
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I think there's some pretty good Warcry minis

thin ibex
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i like the skink team

past sphinx
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munda just has some stronger single figure sculpts i feel

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the teams as a whole can be hit or miss but when they hit they hit like bricks

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and can be converted into very cool munda models

floral herald
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I think AoS's big strength is that it doesn't have 30 years of visual fidelity and history weighing it down to have "older" looking sculpt designs for visual continuity

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So the mini designers are more free to flex their muscles

paper bluff
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Is it too much to want more cool alien sculpts? I don't care if they're not a faction I play. It all enriches the hobby

jaunty dawn
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I think they also just put junior designers on space marine and obligatory character releases

thin ibex
#

im just blessed by the longevity of tau sculpts

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do i want new tau stuff? Yes. Does the old tau stuff still look good? Yes.

jaunty dawn
#

feels like the only thing tau really need rn is like

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firesight marksman refresh

thin ibex
#

oh i asked this a long time ago but forgot the answer

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whats a good place to find a tau bits box that will net me replacement crisis suit guns?

south axle
#

Maybe my closet?

floral herald
#

There’s some online bits sites but I don’t know which ones are good

paper bluff
#

I'd like the custodes gaurd to get a new sculpt but I think eldar needs the range refresh

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Ala sisters of battle style

south axle
#

Eldar is in the middle of a range refresh

thin ibex
# south axle Maybe my closet?

legit if you got enough stuff to fully refresh a single crisis team's loadout i will pay you and cover shipping costs for em, i lost all my magnetized guns so i have bare armed and shouldered crisis suits

south axle
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Can take a look

thin ibex
#

id need 4 plasma rifles, 5 missile pods, an airburster, an ion gun and a shield

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at least for base load

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but otherwise just the full suite

polar crag
#

I have discovered that I love tanks. Is there a vehicle focused faction other than guard that will scratch that itch?

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I do enjoy guard tho

paper bluff
#

Vehicle focus and tanks?

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Tau kinda

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Space marines would be next

floral herald
#

I’m not sure if it’s still meta but space marines have been fielding a lot of armor

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Especially black Templars which is funny

paper bluff
#

You would think mechanicus but no

polar crag
#

I'll give tau another shot. I do like mecha

paper bluff
#

Knights?

south axle
paper bluff
#

Knights can be fun. Are they in a good spot meta wise? Not really

thin ibex
mental birch
south axle
polar crag
#

Knights are too vehicle focused, if that makes sense. They feel too different. Maybe I'll try them anyway. It's not like I spend money, I'm playing on tabletop sim

thin ibex
paper bluff
#

Uuuuuuuh hmm. Sisters of battle?

thin ibex
paper bluff
#

Oh right! The orks vehicles can be very silly

floral herald
#

Oh yeah orks are a good shout

polar crag
#

I'll look into them. I think guard might still be the faction for me, but thanks for the suggestions! I just like tanks

thin ibex
#

csm i thin kcan also play hard into vehicles i think

polar crag
#

Tanks with lots of guns

thin ibex
#

though they have a lot of old fashioned ones

floral herald
solemn gull
mental birch
thin ibex
#

oh and yeah someone else said it, but aeldari can be played heavy into vehicles

mental birch
#

And it's mostly transported breachers

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I tbinm they are still the most powerful unit in the game

south axle
#

My LGS has the new Skaven Globadiers on a 25% off for Black Friday

mental birch
#

Powerful bsttleline

thin ibex
#

I still never want to bring ion hammerheads

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rail all day

south axle
#

THe flesh is feeling weeeeeeak

mental birch
thin ibex
#

its still pretty good right?

south axle
#

I have the old Tau tank commander in a hammerhead turret in my closet

mental birch
#

Not amazing

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1 shot is 1 shot

thin ibex
#

i figure they're very usable/good in a more relaxed environment, possibly edging into annoying for a casual opponent xD

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because of classic tau "take way your toys"

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and that youre more likely to have a centerpiece model in a casual game

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that railguns like to take away

paper bluff
#

If necons maybe?

thin ibex
#

im also tau heretic i like riptide with the heavy burst gun waymore than the ion gun

#

the ion gun just looks... unwieldy

mental birch
thin ibex
#

melta suits are actually more reliable arent they?

mental birch
#

Reroll wounds forgives many sins

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7 ish damage on average

thin ibex
#

doesnt the hammer get 1 reroll to w too? for its 1 shot?

mental birch
#

It's still 1 shot is the issue

thin ibex
#

yeah fair

mental birch
#

Fewer chances to even out

thin ibex
#

i just like how it wounds most things fairly confidently, while the ion gun feels way behind the curve

#

but i guess the ion IS better at dealing with infantry

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i just dont bring a hammer head to deal with infantry

floral herald
#

The ion gun seems fine but also infantry splashers are just not that hard to get with Tau

thin ibex
#

tau dont have THAT many long range anti armor tools, its just that our anti armor tools are very good

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so on one of hte few options that can bring em, it seems weird to not

#

are sky rays still in vogue?

mental birch
#

Ye

floral herald
#

I don’t think so? I think they’re kinda hamstrung by being a designated AA tank in an edition where AA isn’t important

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But I may be misremembering

mental birch
floral herald
#

That is a lot of S14 for 140 pts though

mental birch
#

This ridiculous thubg

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I knw

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3 twin linked lascannons for the low low price of 140 points?

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Only admech get a better deal than this and they pay real life money

#

Ahahha

tired cairn
#

Zoanthroapes get close. But have much worse range

mental birch
#

Also get instantly murdered by okay firepower

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Abhaa

tired cairn
#

Though they also never accomplish anything in my games. They two shots off (not rounds lol) before being annihilated last time I played lmao

#

I probably need to reserve them more. But it feels bad when you have a neurotyrant with them

thin ibex
#

Tau tanks are definitely glass canons in general

#

They don't exist to trade firepower, they exist to platform some of the factions biggest guns

thin ibex
past sphinx
#

well would you look at that

thin ibex
#

honestly surprised to see such an extensive set of options and weapon selections

past sphinx
#

becoming an upgrade sprue has some advantages

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for 110 points they seem like some quality budget chosen

past sphinx
#

5 man squad with a master of executions piling into the usual stratagem hogs feels like a winning combo

pulsar cairn
#

do we have any stories of 2 loyalist groups mistaking each other for heretics and the real heretics basically made them fight each other? vicksySip

past sphinx
#

the burning of prospero

pulsar cairn
#

that's....accurate

pastel rampart
#

Success.

solemn gull
#

A huge civil war in house Esther happened because a saint had a mispelled name in some books and then two different sects went to war over it

past sphinx
#

AVE DOMINUS NOX

#

nearly done

#

the clan is to broke to afford anything fancier that a pair of heavy bolters glued together 😦

thin ibex
#

i dont think this would work but this is an absolute bludgeon of a list

tardy vault
#

Decided to put together a basic 1k list for DoK on top of my proper 2k list

ScĂĄthcoven

Melusai Ironscale (160)
[General]
[Zealous Orator]
- 10 x Blood Sisters (280)
- 5 x Blood Stalkers (140)
- 5 x Khinerai Heartrenders (110)

Hag Queen (140)
[Khainite Pendant]
- 5 x Doomfire Warlocks (150)

[Lore of Shadows]
[Prayers of the Khainite Cult]
[Manifestations of Khaine]

980/1000pts
2 drops

Generated by Listbot 4.0```
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thoughts?

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For the record, DoK does not have a single unit that costs 130

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Oh sorry

#

They have the High Gladiatrix

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but shes kind of meh at best and doesn't even work with this army

tepid stratus
#

I say as my Sigvald got popped by a gladiatrix

tardy vault
#

I also don't own her

#

but I own everything else in this list

#

Also, ya know, it wouldn't be out the question for this list to drop 12 mortals in a single Fight

#

20 swings with 2 damage and Crit Mortals

#

Not likely

#

but possible

unreal cosmos
#

Man Barbgaunts are fucking chunky, my favorite thing about building Tyranids rn is how much the units jimp around in size

bright dove
tardy vault
#

yeah, that'll depend on a bunch of stuff

#

only 1 wizard does kind of cause through put issues

#

especially for an army that really wants it's run and charge and buff spells

#

I should be able to get the heart out fairly reliably tho

#

That plus the Hag Queen should give my Blood Sisters decent staying power

#

might change to shadow patrol...

#

the Fight First is amazing, but the Teleport is more applicable

bright dove
#

Eh, it's either teleport 1 unit a turn until they get stuck in, or give most of your army Strike First on a good charge.

tardy vault
#

Well, at least my two frontline units Strike First

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and I do have rerolls on the charge ideally

thin ibex
#

it seems like glash gits are actually these days a melee unit with a decent volley of shooting before getting stuck in

#

flash*

#

theres no way to like... boost em with characters or anything

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or detachments

#

so i figured having them loaded up into a battlewagon

#

blasting and then charging

#

is the way to go

#

easier to roll full kombi weapon nobz with a big mek leader

tired cairn
#

I thought there was one character that works well with them

#

Oh, he's a legends

paper bluff
#

I say use legends if you're playing casual

thin ibex
#

yeah i think its fine in casual, just when exploring their viability as a unit in the current ork roster, you can't really rely on legends

mental birch
#

They legended Mr pirate?

thin ibex
#

yeah

tardy vault
#

Smol Morathi built

pulsar cairn
#

Name it

paper bluff
#

That is small Morathi. There is also big snake morathi

pulsar cairn
#

Do they also only need to eat every 15 days?

#

Snakes dont eat a whole lot wixelsSit

tardy vault
#

(it's someone's heart)

#

Also, didn't realize big Morathi has someone she petrified and smashed on her base

#

Btw, if anyone is wondering how but big Morathi is compared to small

#

This is smol Morathi on the big base

unreal cosmos
#

Modelling for advantage

#

Also I really wanna steal those wings now

tardy vault
#

Lmao they're great

#

I love the muscles on them

#

Have you seen the wings on the Stormcast hero in their Spearhead?

#

The second she gets a standalone kit it's open season lol

jaunty dawn
#

yndrasta? she doesn't get standalone releases :(

#

she shares sprue space with a bunch of the other models in the box

soft willow
#

I lucked out and got her in a lot of Stormcast stuff resold locally, but otherwise she's locked behind the Spearhead or the old starter box for Stormcast.

#

Very cool model, and a real shame there isn't a non-pushfit version.

graceful gate
#

Does anyone know if these special edition Warhammer books are available to order yet and if so where? https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/EgvWAYQW/praise-the-silent-king-two-black-library-necron-special-editions-are-coming-this-year/

(I know little about how this stuff works, I'm just scheming a Christmas gift)

Warhammer Community

Sixty million years ago the Necron dynasties spread across the stars, an almighty civilisation dead set on conquering the galaxy. After being turned into a race of living metal constructs as part of a fell bargain with the C’tan, most lost their personalities, becoming little more than soulless automatons.

dense sedge
uneven ember
#

I love how Vecht is, on one hand, this inspiring Horatio Alger "started at the bottom" story but since what he climed to the top of is Commorragh he's also the fucking worst

thin ibex
#

you can respect vecht's hustle while still thinking he's awful

thin ibex
#

being silly

tired cairn
#

As an FYI: bsyy.app is a thingy that makes bluesky discord embeds work

#

Oh boo, it doesn't work for videos

uneven ember
#

ah, hm
well: it's a video of lefty YouTuber Shaun, but as a servo-skull instead of a normal skull, where he(? an immitator?) delivers the "THE WEAKNESS OF THE FLESH" speech from Mechanicus

tardy vault
#

Don't talk to me or my daughter ever again

soft willow
#

Danger noodle the faction.

tardy vault
#

One of the other bad decisions I made last night was buying a lot of danger noodles

#

25 of them in fact

#

(2 reinforced units of spear snakes and the other half of a reinforced unit of bow snakes)

paper bluff
paper bluff
glad spear
mystic saddle
#

would the horus heresy have been less horrible, or more, if all the primarchs were women, as Malcador apparently had suggested the emperor make them because he thought they'd get along better?

floral herald
#

Honestly I don’t think it would have made a difference

desert jay
#

Heresy AU where it's 9 guys 9 gals, during the Great Crusade various pairs (both het and gay) started dating, and it turns into the worst polycule breakup imaginable

soft willow
#

That isn't already someone's extensive fanfic?

desert jay
#

I feel like Heresy fanficcers tend to either go full bore MLM or genderswap all of them

zinc field
#

Multi Level Marketing Horus Heresy AU?

#

.....I'm down

jaunty dawn
#

it would only make a difference if the writer is a coward tbh

floral herald
mystic saddle
pastel rampart
tired cairn
jaunty dawn
#

perturabo is an eldest sister

#

sanguinius?

#

leman russ probably

bright dove
#

Perty is a good choice.

#

Ferrus Manus.

#

No reason, it'd be funny.

tired cairn
#

Sanguinius has to stay a guy for the Jesus reference and the (male) homoeroticism of the chapter

jaunty dawn
#

that's true yeah

#

gulliman

#

I think lorgar is a maybe and magnus is a nope

bright dove
#

Magnus stays a guy if only so I don't have to label them a failgirl.

jaunty dawn
#

magnus has too much hubris

desert jay
#

Magnus stays a guy because otherwise the chest horns would look even more suggestive otherwise

uneven ember
floral herald
#

I guess Alpharius and Omegon are easy

mental birch
past sphinx
#

easy its Lorgar, Alpharius, Fulgrim, gulliman, Lion, Horus, corax and the two lost primarch who never attend the meetings vs the rest who are the lads

#

source : friends with MLM mormon familys growing up

zinc field
#

Corvus Corax and Konrad Curze for maximum goth girl

finite compass
desert jay
#

I'm thinking... Vulkan?

lofty warren
#

but also in my imagination like

#

both are extremely androgynous and swap presentations to the point where its not possible to tell

#

does mess up the count, though

past sphinx
mental birch
untold swallow
#

Yet to be dethawed take

desert jay
past sphinx
tardy vault
#

So, the Warhammer World Champ reveals are live

#

Krieg and Astra Militarum Codex first as expected

floral herald
#

Yoo these horsies are sick

tardy vault
#

Fucked up horses

#

love em

upper bluff
#

Yo Krieg horses that don't cost $200?

south axle
#

Are those mines mounted on the breast plates?

thin ibex
#

plastic krieg horses?

tardy vault
#

Yep

south axle
#

Plastic Krieg Engineers!

thin ibex
#

i wonder what the role differential will be against the rough riders

floral herald
#

These are dope

#

I like the krieg a lot aesthetically I just don’t love their fanbase

tardy vault
#

Lord Marshall Drier is the character

floral herald
#

I like the more desperate/roman look they’re getting here

tardy vault
floral herald
#

The predatory clawed horses are fun

tardy vault
#

New Combat patrol

#

....not a fan as a new player box

thin ibex
#

i think krieg is hella cool, but ive explained in the past that my beef with them is aesthetically occupying the greatcoat gas mask niche that armageddon used to live in, but armageddon is not nearly as popular

floral herald
#

Imagine being reused as the TP-holder skull lmao

tardy vault
#

Krieg weapon teams get heavy flamers

solemn gull
floral herald
#

Old world fans eating good

#

Oh cool new Arvus Lighter

jagged dawn
pine matrix
#

Those are some FUCKED horses, hell yeah

jaunty dawn
#

love the wording of

#

returning [material] revealed at [the event]

#

like

#

ah yes

#

these 20ish year old minis

#

finally revealeed

#

24 new detachments???????

#

1 on a day for each day of advent

tired cairn
jaunty dawn
#

matched play legal

tired cairn
#

I feel like the top of the krieg horse isn't fucked up enough given how messed up the feet are

jaunty dawn
#

what combat patrol do you mean

tired cairn
#

Whichever one @tardy vault was talking about

tardy vault
#

The guard one

tired cairn
tardy vault
#

it's two cav, a command squad, and infantry

#

for guard

jaunty dawn
#

weird

#

wait the army set?

#

do they not just mean playable in combat patrol

tired cairn
#

Hmm, they will probably also release a new worse combat patrol? Though the current one isn't too old right?

jaunty dawn
#

they probably will release a new one yeah

#

but no it's not that old, ig were one of the last to get one

#

in 9e

#

combat engineers kinda fuck

#

and the artillery is awesome

desert jay
tardy vault
#

Seriously

jaunty dawn
#

weird

tardy vault
#

It's Attilian Riders

jaunty dawn
#

two of em?

tardy vault
#

yep

south axle
#

There will be a combat patrol for AstraMili cosisting of 2 units of ROugh Riders, 1 command squad and 1 unit of Kaskrin

jaunty dawn
#

and then a cadian command

#

thats wild

tardy vault
#

EKU has it

#

It's fucking awful

#

like

#

why

desert jay
#

Oh that's funky, huh

tardy vault
#

more AoS hell yeah

desert jay
#

But TBH I suspect a possible "Rough Riders not selling" and this is a way to maybe pull people in on them? IDK

jaunty dawn
#

oh its currently going?

south axle
#

These new wolves look glorious

jaunty dawn
#

oh gitmob

#

cool

#

still kinda feel like gitmob should be part of kruleboyz though

desert jay
#

Yay plastic Argus, big news for Argus fans

jaunty dawn
#

they do look very cool either way

south axle
#

Well, Orcs and Gobbos are different factions nowadays so woulĂśd have been weird

jaunty dawn
#

kruleboyz already have a decent amount of goblins/hobgrots

south axle
#

Grots are not Gobbos

desert jay
#

Okay I love the details on the Kreig Artillery Team

jaunty dawn
#

I like how you can tell that the wolf is the real boss

south axle
#

Doing Sun VS Moon for the gobbos is lovely

tired cairn
#

What a ridiculous mobility system:

tardy vault
#

Books now

jaunty dawn
#

I um

#

I wonder if like

#

hm

#

I hope they give combat engineers kill team rules is my point

tardy vault
#

KHAINE

#

IS THAT A DOK BOOK!? (it isn't)

#

ELDAR

tired cairn
south axle
#

New Swoopers

tardy vault
#

Swooping Hawks

floral herald
#

Yoooooo

south axle
#

And SPOIDERS

tardy vault
#

Baharroth

floral herald
#

New Phoenix Lord

jaunty dawn
#

oh spider lord FUCKS

tardy vault
#

Another new Phoenix Lord

floral herald
#

Yeah these fucking rip

junior robin
tardy vault
#

Fuegan as leaked then confirmed

#

And another lord and their codex

floral herald
#

New fragons look excellent

tardy vault
#

Eldar eating well

cinder wraith
#

my disdain for aeldari rises once more >:C

thin ibex
#

wait wait wait, they are bringing in a revamped flyer for hh?

#

dont they hate flyers?

south axle
#

Just learned that we have never had a WarpSpider Phoenix Lord model

floral herald
#

Yeah he’s outright new

tired cairn
#

This is an Ultramarine:

floral herald
#

Stole his drip

tardy vault
#

"Calm, strategic mind" literally an ultramarine lmao

rocky shale
#

The warp spider PL is sooooo cooooool

#

My fucking wallet

floral herald
#

If they weren’t super xenophobic the ultramarines would probably get along well with the Dire Avenger aspect shrine

south axle
#

Kinda suprised we haven't gotten a new Karandras model

thin ibex
#

dire avengers shrine is so strongly "we're gonna get REAL good with our people's main gun"

rocky shale
thin ibex
#

karandras got an update, eldar relative speaking, recently did he not?

floral herald
#

Not really iirc

south axle
#

Only Striking Scorpions got an update

rocky shale
#

7 detachments in the book wooooo

floral herald
#

I think the current Karadras model is from 2012?

#

Maybe older

rocky shale
jaunty dawn
#

i love her

tired cairn
#

Is that a warpspider exarch?

#

It looks sick

south axle
#

Karandras latest sculpt from what I can find

upper bluff
#

Aeldar are cool and I'm tired of pretending they aren't

south axle
#

WarpSpider PL

desert jay
#

(Yay the embed has the gif)

thin ibex
#

screw propulsion is actually really cool

south axle
thin ibex
#

you think karandras headbutts folk

#

with his tall hat

#

like a club

floral herald
#

My guess is not often - it’s a sensor mast

tired cairn
thin ibex
#

quad mandiblasters also a vibe

tired cairn
#

I guess there would be a lot of mud where Krieg fight

south axle
#

I kinda wish they just brought Shadow SPectres into mainline Aeldari

untold swallow
#

I'm so fucking normal about the new phoenix lord

tired cairn
#

It would definitely not be allowed on the road though lol

untold swallow
#

I'm so normal, chat

thin ibex
#

ive never been like super enthused about shadow spectres tbh, they're neat but im happy with the existing aspects

#

also we dont have a shining spear phoenix lord do we?

upper bluff
#

No we do

south axle
untold swallow
#

lmao

south axle
#

Shining Spear PL is missing according to lore

untold swallow
#

Baharroth is also beautiful tho

south axle
rocky shale
#

It's very funny that karandras will be the last PL to be old and funky

south axle
#

The OG PLs

rocky shale
#

I'll probably just kitbash him

jaunty dawn
#

they should never update karandras

untold swallow
#

also in case I missed it

#

detachment rules for ynnari?

thin ibex
rocky shale
#

Looks like ynnari are getting soup rules similar to agents where they get modified drukhari datasheets directly in the eldar codex

jaunty dawn
#

rather than take anything away from eldar :) (the ability to complain about range age)

untold swallow
#

lmao

thin ibex
#

penny, thats too meta

#

somehow very aeldari

south axle
#

Karandras is technically the foremost desciple of the Scorpion PL, the actual PL joined the Daemons

untold swallow
#

Well he's the current pl

floral herald
#

Very nice for the girlfriend collecting Ynnari

untold swallow
#

We all know who Drazhar is, don't we chat?

floral herald
#

I hear he’s some kind of… master blader

rocky shale
#

I just started adding ynnari to my Aeldari so I hope they include a good chunk of the deldar range still

south axle
#

Drazhar is the PL of Incubi

rocky shale
#

I got like 3 venoms for $30 at a swap meet I wanna use em

jaunty dawn
#

karandras is also a phoenix lord

#

in that he has his own armour gestalt thing

south axle
#

I love that there is an aspect who has never had any real models

pine matrix
#

These new Eldar look fantastic

#

Damn I want all those PLs

upper bluff
tired cairn
#

So, there are 26 factions with a Codex/Index (excluding Emproror's Children and the upcomign Death Watch). Do we think some of the factions are not getting a new detachment with the advent calendar thing, and if so which ones?

untold swallow
#

I can finally not use ynnead

tired cairn
#

(I would guess Imperial Agents aren't one. But I am not sure what the other one would be)

upper bluff
#

Are you including like Blood Angels in the 26 count

tired cairn
tired cairn
south axle
#

We know 5 of the 24/30 coming

upper bluff
#

Because I don't think all divergent chapters will get one

jaunty dawn
#

I imagine the focus will be covering index factions

#

just to add some variety there

tired cairn
#

Otherwise there will be less than 24 factions I think

upper bluff
#

I think it's more likely space marines as a whole get multiple

glad spear
#

Did new models drop?

upper bluff
tired cairn
south axle
jaunty dawn
#

oh

#

then space marines probably count as one faction then

jaunty dawn
#

since they share detachments

glad spear
#

sick af

south axle
#

Great UI/UX being shown here

tired cairn
#

Where was 30 stated and what are the 5 we know?

glad spear
south axle
tired cairn
#

oooh, interesting

south axle
#

5th being Deathwatch

thin ibex
#

arent aeldari direswords meant to be powerful psychic weapons

tired cairn
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Ah, so not one for Emperor's children (which is fine of course)

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That covers all of them then

south axle
# tired cairn That covers all of them then

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tired cairn
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Thanks!

south axle
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6th confirmed one is an AstraMili one

tired cairn
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Well, they also say each faction will get one (from the article)

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So we know all of them from the the demon 4 plus counting death watch + 25 other factions (not including ECs)

south axle
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Some more PL discussion: Muegan Ra really do be the most non-Aspect looking of the PLs. Fuegan is borderline with his helemt-"wings" being closer to Dark Reapers than Fragons

lofty warren
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im shocked plastic krieg are real

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tbh

jaunty dawn
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me too

south axle
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Plastic Krieg has been a thing for over a year now

lofty warren
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idk how well two main plastic lines of guard who play the same are going to go

jaunty dawn
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not shocked now because it's been leaked for a while but

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tbf technically this brings it to 3

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cause you can still buy catachan

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but also unlike previous iterations the different squads have different rules

lofty warren
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it almost feels like kreig are supplanting cadia a bit

south axle
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Cadia got a huge refresh like last year

jaunty dawn
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rather than just being pretty much aesthetic differences to back up subfaction rule choices

tired cairn
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I think that makes it easier to justify GW making them because it makes it easier to convince people to buy them

uneven ember
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jaunty dawn
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but yeah I'm surprised gw want to go there with krieg

tired cairn
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Art team must like the aesthetic lol

lofty warren
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they tested the waters with KT

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which i bet we are going to see a lot more of

desert jay
tired cairn
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Krieg had FW miniatures for awhile as well right? Longer maybe than the other lines?

jaunty dawn
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yeah

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krieg stuff wasn't the first but it was the only one to never be uh

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discontinued

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pulsar cairn
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hi penny

south axle
floral herald
jaunty dawn
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hi skully <3

floral herald
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They’re technically the second newest line iirc

rocky shale
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Strands of fate isn't gonna be the army rule, we're getting battle focus back!

desert jay
tired cairn
floral herald
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Oh i misunderstood

tired cairn
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No problem. It is an ambigious phrasing

jaunty dawn
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but yeah dkok are still one the store

tired cairn
floral herald
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Real

desert jay
jaunty dawn
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though a lot of them are sold out online now

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I'm kinda happy to see strands of fate go because miracle dice is so entrenched as the sister of battle rule in the 8e+ era that eldar just getting a better version of it two editions in a row sucks haha

desert jay
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Yeah I also don't mean 1:1 of the index rule, but a nerfed version

floral herald
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Is strands of fate going?

desert jay
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So I hear

jaunty dawn
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yeah

tired cairn
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Is this from the video or from leaks?

jaunty dawn
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it's being replaced with battle focus

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video

tired cairn
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Did they say what battle focus does?

rocky shale
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Probably move shoot move

jaunty dawn
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not specifically but yeah

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move shoot move

tired cairn
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That would be incredibly strong lol

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I wonder if you could do the strands of fate idea but with something other than dice

jaunty dawn
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it was yeah

tired cairn
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Would be neat to tie it into the tactical objectives, but those aren't core rules

rocky shale
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I mean a lot of the army already has that due to fire and fade

floral herald
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army wide JSJ

tired cairn
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JSJ?

floral herald
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Well, this won’t make people any happier haha this rules

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jaunty dawn
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last time it existed it had a weird jank restriction that made it harder to jump back into cover specifially

tired cairn
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Huh, was that from when it was a mostly a jump pack unit thing?

jaunty dawn
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technically battle focus is older than jet pack infantry

tired cairn
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Err, the acronym

floral herald
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At the time pretty much only Battlesuits got it

rocky shale
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Not that being able to guarantee 8 damage from a bright lance wasn't already a strong army rule

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Or 12 off a fuegan shot

jaunty dawn
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it was the eldar rule, then it was the tau rule, and then they've traded it back and forth for a while

floral herald
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Did eldar have it in 2e/3e or something?

tired cairn
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Did they say anything about how they are changing GSC cult ambush?

jaunty dawn
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pretty sure yeah

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wrt battle focus

floral herald
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Huh cool

paper bluff
jaunty dawn
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when it was the jet pack rule it was mostly battle suits but there was others I think

tired cairn
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Good thing the friend who played eldar in my playgroup left to the other side of the continent

jaunty dawn
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like one or two weird exceptions

paper bluff
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I wonder if a bunch of old eldar armies are going to go on sale soon

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untold swallow
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lmao

past sphinx
paper bluff
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With the new warp spiders sculpt I wonder who's the current oldest now

tardy vault
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IIRC Dark Angels have a metal character still

uneven ember
# thin ibex their playstyles are very different its the aesthetic that they overlap with

Oh yeah, I get that (I think the first painted DKoK mini in a GW publication was a variant Steel Legion mini?)
I'm just saying that maybe the difference in prominence/popularity is just that people who vibe with the "WWI dudes" look, on balance, tend to be more into the "...doing WWI trench and field gun shit" over "doing mobile tank warfare" and so the former got all the fans

desert jay
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In stock on the GW web store too!

lofty warren
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Never forget the main purpose of GW is to sell toys

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new stuff generates buying hype

tired cairn
tired cairn
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Though the tanks were technically mobile in WWI I guess lol

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🤔 what would modern military aesthetics but 40kified look like?

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Maybe those really grungy looking NBC suits

past sphinx
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Depends what you mean by modern

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Because cadias current aestetic is cold war ish

tired cairn
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True

past sphinx
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And reivers are pretty high-speed low drag

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Eliminators to

tired cairn
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The Darktide scab shooters look pretty "modern" too

tired cairn
past sphinx
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Elysians are a good ring toss but their aping an aestetic that is pretty niche

tired cairn
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Otherwise they'd just be Cadians

past sphinx
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Cooler cadians

floral herald
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Aquilons look pretty modern too

tired cairn
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But I do think there should be more grunge NBC outfits in 40k. Maybe it's more of a chaos or nurgle thing

thin ibex
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so wait

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are the field gun unit getting more options

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or are krieg getting a seperate one that has different options

tired cairn
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I think the Aqulions are very sci fi stormtrooper. Except the guy with the beret is very British marine

jaunty dawn
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seperate two

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their big one is bigger and their smaller ones are smaller

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none of 40k is really modern thoughh

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the aquilon gun is pretty m4 inspired

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in it's carbine-ness

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like cadia is vietnam usa. that's like 50 years ago haha

tired cairn
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Oh, that's fair. The helmet choice is what I was focusing on with my comment probably

jaunty dawn
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pre m16 vietnam too. nam and korea

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but yeah I think like