#Warhammer and Such

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upper canopy
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Man

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They're gonna release this

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and then also Champions of Chaos

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for Soulbound

floral herald
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My “chaos is the one true answer” shirt raising a lot of questions answered by the shirt

naive abyss
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ngl im glad i just bought that chaos bookmark lol

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cuz imma read any book abraxia gets

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for ref on the bookmark

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just ordered so to be clear not my book lol

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dark mech?

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oh

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oh shit

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plastic HH admech?

jaunty dawn
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for suuuure

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wild!!!

naive abyss
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@junior robin

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YEEEEEEEEEEEE

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the fucking hewer

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fuck yeah

past sphinx
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DAWI TIME

naive abyss
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is

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is that a new slayer king

past sphinx
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DORF ON SHIELD BABY

naive abyss
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oh fuck yeah

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and its probably plastic

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fuck yeah

past sphinx
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a goblin hewer might get me dusting on the dorfs

naive abyss
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oh man a bugman cart

jaunty dawn
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I think

naive abyss
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i see that not ungrim

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you cant hide him from me

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yes like ungrim here lol

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I FUCKING KNEW IT

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this young pre king ungrim

past sphinx
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lol

naive abyss
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this is him like before the competition for new high king i think

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VOTANN TIME

past sphinx
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even more dorf!

jaunty dawn
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another ashes of faith type deal?

naive abyss
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CHONY SHOTGUNS

jaunty dawn
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patriarch in kill team is wild

naive abyss
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though ew swords

thin ibex
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Yo I see shotguns

jaunty dawn
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but also I like these guys a lot

naive abyss
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i like them other than the swords lol

thin ibex
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I'll take swords if we get shotguns

unreal cosmos
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THIS FUCKS LIKE WILD

past sphinx
naive abyss
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but i can probably easily switch to axes

thin ibex
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Who are they?

jaunty dawn
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been looking forward to these since they were clearly gonna happen when the pioneers looked nothing like everyone else in style haha

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Jaegers

unreal cosmos
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I took an edible three hours ago and this show has been harrowing

past sphinx
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new terrain spotted

jaunty dawn
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broodbrother kill team

naive abyss
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jaegers are a cool name

jaunty dawn
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based on the new cadian box?

naive abyss
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also yet another sniper rifles for kin

jaunty dawn
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oh it's the bottlerocket rumour engine

naive abyss
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allot of them

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crossbow and mine stack

jaunty dawn
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dorf guerillas

naive abyss
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theyre absolutely space dorf rangers lol

unreal cosmos
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I love their coats

thin ibex
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Hmm what do you reckon Jaegers are all about? Infiltration and precision weapons in the field?

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Cp or scoring disruption?

jaunty dawn
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from the name and mines everywhere it just feels like infinity invading kill team haha

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they're getting infiltration rules in kill team

floral herald
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Is there a pic for them?

naive abyss
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not a good one but i have one i posted

jaunty dawn
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it's really hard because they just show these really fast cinematic shots haha

naive abyss
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yeah

floral herald
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I’ll just wait for the announcement on Twitter I guess

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Not enough info to predict much there

naive abyss
past sphinx
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i think those are the best Votann ive seen

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or atleast the ones i like the most

naive abyss
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they are a nice addition

jaunty dawn
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seems like the patriarch was just for fun

past sphinx
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really punch above the weight

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or hieght

upper bluff
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I'm a sucker for big coats

floral herald
naive abyss
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i wonder if this means the old salvager killteam is just gonna become the new warriors sprue box

floral herald
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Is it a purestrain team or something?

jaunty dawn
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veterans

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brood brothers as in gsc guardsmen

naive abyss
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its new cadian brood brothers basically

jaunty dawn
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elite gsc with military training

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oh no

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okay

naive abyss
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oh shit

jaunty dawn
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the patriarch is in kill team

naive abyss
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the patriarch is just there

jaunty dawn
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ohh

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it's like

naive abyss
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its an option at least

jaunty dawn
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the 14 model thing I think

tired cairn
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How is the patriarch going to be in the kill team lol

floral herald
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Oh so it’s gonna be like Blooded where you can have a Big Guy

jaunty dawn
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10+ patriarch

naive abyss
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hes like a pseudo boss model

jaunty dawn
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patriarch activates twice

naive abyss
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which is fun

floral herald
tired cairn
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Yeah, but the patriarch is so big

jaunty dawn
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he's two guys in a trenchcoat

tired cairn
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Like, two orgryns in wounds on normal tabletop anyways

jaunty dawn
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you can also take the elite guys from wyrmblade

naive abyss
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cool new brood brother heads

floral herald
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There’s some big ass models in KT

jaunty dawn
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patriarch is by far the biggest

brittle salmon
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Patriarch is pretty much going to be the nastiest boy on the table

floral herald
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I’m curious what will separate them from all the other GEQ specialist teams

brittle salmon
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So watch out

jaunty dawn
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like, bigger than the transuranic arquebus

brittle salmon
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I'm glad they've gone back to bespoke kill teams, I figured they wouldn't be gone

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But this is a hella good box

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Blows the first one out of the water

naive abyss
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im assuming rats

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or more teasing about rats

jaunty dawn
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sigmar lieeed

naive abyss
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i appreciate this being chaos vs chaos in here

jaunty dawn
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cinematic is a stormcast lady reforging a bunch

naive abyss
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rats

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rats

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were the rats

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jesus fuck

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oh they brought the city up

past sphinx
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RATS RATS RATS RATS RATS

naive abyss
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ngl this is probably the best aos cinematic theyve done

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jezzails

past sphinx
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new jezzails or bust

naive abyss
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oh are we getting old stormcast modelss update?

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this new lady is cool

jaunty dawn
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it was about reforging all along?

naive abyss
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i hope she gets a model

past sphinx
naive abyss
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there might be more to it

past sphinx
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like

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years

tired cairn
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Didn't we already know this "lie"?

naive abyss
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cuz her eyes were weird

jaunty dawn
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and is told to stormcast sdgfhsj

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mm maybe

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especially cause like

tired cairn
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She also seemed pretty blase about it

jaunty dawn
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Idk if being completely gone was an established outcome

naive abyss
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oh is the new carriage gun the new ratling?

tired cairn
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"he didn't tell us the full cost! Anyhow I'll keep fighting for him"

naive abyss
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fucken

jaunty dawn
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vermindoom

naive abyss
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vermindoom

brittle salmon
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I mean, it's a teaser trailer

naive abyss
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just call it a vermintide

brittle salmon
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They're not gonna give the game away immediately

naive abyss
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omfg

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you cheeky fuck

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you literally said tide

jaunty dawn
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takes sigmar 6 books to settle a city and then skaven just summon one

naive abyss
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thats about right for skaven

jaunty dawn
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ruination chamber

pastel rampart
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That was my nickname in college!

unreal cosmos
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ruination chamber innit

jaunty dawn
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can you even watch the video they just referenced anymore :(

naive abyss
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which video?

jaunty dawn
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the one when they announced sacrosant chamber

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the one where it goes

naive abyss
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against krule boyz?

jaunty dawn
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"my liege, you can't just solve your problems by opening another chamber"
and then sigmar goes "THE HELL I CAN"

naive abyss
jaunty dawn
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I think this was the stormcast release after aos 2.0 was released

pastel rampart
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In case, y'know, you wanna microwave some popcorn.

jaunty dawn
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aos 4 is getting rid of melee weapon ranges

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so interested to see how they make spears work now

brittle salmon
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Thank god for that

jaunty dawn
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it was pretty inconsistent yeah

pastel rampart
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They could take cues from other games and spears do something when the unit is charged.

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Make it a universal rule so it's consistent.

jaunty dawn
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gosh that brood brothers box is gonna be Stacked

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standalone release is probably gonna be just the guard tbf

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adding a mission deck to aos 4

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leviathan style

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oh for combat patrol

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equivalent

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I think

brittle salmon
jaunty dawn
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I'm getting too sleepy to parse these conversations lol

brittle salmon
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This also puts the rumours they're only doing one bespoke KT per box from now on to bed

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Which I am very glad for

naive abyss
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man she kicks ass

naive abyss
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this art is great lol

brittle salmon
naive abyss
brittle salmon
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Where they bucked the trend of having unique models/operatives in favour of much more standardised dudes

jaunty dawn
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oh

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fair

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bespoke has become meaningless in terms of kt tbh sfdfj

brittle salmon
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Has it?

jaunty dawn
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it just feels like everyone means something different when they say it

naive abyss
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show us skaven models i beg

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denied rats

brittle salmon
naive abyss
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excited for plastic HH admech cuz then i can get the tasty cyborg horror

jaunty dawn
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cause like I don't really see the trend of one entirely new kit and one upgrade sprue having been bucked

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but it's not really important, just semantics

brittle salmon
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that is not what I'm talking about

jaunty dawn
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no I get that

brittle salmon
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like the Eldar in Salvation were just Striking Scorpions

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No upgrades

jaunty dawn
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it was just an idle remark

brittle salmon
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fair enough!

jaunty dawn
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just realised this lady has digitigrade legs

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sylvaneth sicarians

naive abyss
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i do find teh contrast between the releases for slaves and csm hilarious

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prety cool on foot chaos lord marine vs chonk as fuck lady on a big ass lizard

jaunty dawn
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I also find it kinda funny this is the second foot archer revenant model we're getting without it being a unit

naive abyss
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lol

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im curious what is in abrexias head

jaunty dawn
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no thoughts

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head empty

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to avoid becoming a chaos spawn

naive abyss
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i meant the like weird thing on her forehead lol

jaunty dawn
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haha yeah

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yeah its interesting cause they were like

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always talked about the horns happening

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and not the red skin and third eye with glowing cracks

naive abyss
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omfg i just noticed her spears name

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its fuckng gorbolg

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this lady is chaos cu chulain

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the book shes in is literally hounds of chaos

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this reads like some homebrew i made up lol

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wait what is the path?

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cuz this reads like shes militantly chaos undivided

jaunty dawn
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I guess archaons own motives?

naive abyss
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im curious now on that front ngl

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cuz itll be wild if shes some sorta militant undivided

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gw just stealling my homebrew nonsense when im not looking lol

jaunty dawn
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yup

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every time

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double turn is still in aos hehe

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justice

naive abyss
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ill say that was the pretties aos edition cinematic

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the others all had a bit of jank visually to them

jaunty dawn
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I wonder if this means it'll be more like when they made all the 2e battletomes free through the app when 3e came out, but with updates across the board, than how 40k 10th was handled

past sphinx
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and they didnt even let me look at the damn munda models

jaunty dawn
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I completely missed the necromunda bit haha

past sphinx
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thats 3 van saar gangers tho

brittle salmon
jaunty dawn
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with servo arms

past sphinx
brittle salmon
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so hopefully they have significantly reworked it

naive abyss
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random but are the votann the first faction with two different depicted sniper rifles?

jaunty dawn
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admech have the jezzail and the arqubus

past sphinx
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and tallboys rifles

brittle salmon
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marines have like, three

naive abyss
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ah yeah fair

jaunty dawn
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tallboy has one of either

naive abyss
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i forgot about those

brittle salmon
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scout snipers, eliminator rifles, and las fusils

past sphinx
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guard has the karskin, scion and IG who hall have specific rifles

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though all long las

jaunty dawn
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not a quantity thing but the arbites squad has a sniper shotgun

naive abyss
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i think my highlights are abraxia, the dorfs, and the space dorfs

jaunty dawn
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just to put that out there

past sphinx
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Space dorfs are gonna get converted ASAP

naive abyss
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like love the jaegers though ill have to figure out how giving them axes is gonna work lol

jaunty dawn
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some of these have hoods

floral herald
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What models are those?

jaunty dawn
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van saar gangers

naive abyss
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the munbda ones they teased

floral herald
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Ah, van saar makes sense

jaunty dawn
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if you're cold your ironkin is cold give him a coat

past sphinx
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Mor foghty mor big -squigmar

jaunty dawn
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I hope we do get thunderstrike liberators

past sphinx
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New jezzails

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Their in the trailer big time

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Just gimmie jezzails

uneven ember
naive abyss
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she

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oh wait that was the irk lol

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tbh still she im here for lady irk rep lol

uneven ember
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yeah however they want to do it

naive abyss
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also im so curious now what the "Path" is mentined that abrexia follows

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cuz itll be wild if my homebrew shit gets paralleled by gw for a second time lol

crisp lance
uneven ember
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awww, 's cute

naive abyss
rocky shale
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New csm battleforces are tempting

floral herald
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It is

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God I’m gonna have so many legionaries

brittle salmon
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we finally got the jump lord back

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at last,,,

floral herald
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Raptors rejoice you have 2 characters who can join you at last

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Which is honestly great

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Raptors are a really frequently underrated unit imo

brittle salmon
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flying deep strikers

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Pretty dope

floral herald
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They also get 2x special weapons which is weirdly good

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With plasguns they can shoot a lot of targets decently well

brittle salmon
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wait what

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Legionnaires cost the same as Raptors, too

floral herald
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You lose out on OC2 and get shittier special rules (oops all battleshock vs “we literally kill and eat units on objectives we charge”)

brittle salmon
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True!

proud wing
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getting a second genestealer specialist kill team before a first proper tyranids one is certainly a decision

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granted brood brothers are probably the coolest part of genestealers (besides inexplicably hot psyker woman)

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and I do enjoy having another One Real Big Guy themed team

sinful merlin
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I am so hype for brood brothers though I do hope it has a few more arms than what's been shown

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The timing is very amusing to me though since I was just about to try and put together a veteran guardsmen team out of one of my shock troop squads 😄

thin ibex
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Being a bit silly

spice flicker
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So skaven can just manifest parts of blight city now it seems

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Hoping for new ikrit claw in trailer but unfortunately nope

ebon forge
ebon forge
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s h o v e l

thin ibex
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I love the fucking skullcap

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Toque?

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Beanie

jaunty dawn
# ebon forge That's so siiiiiiiiick Tell me the LORE plz

the pioneers (jet biker guys) go around finding planets and such that have resources, marking the locations etc. if for whatever reason they need to establish a more permanent presence on a site, like to keep it secure or something, they drop these guys, the Jaegers. they're guerilla surivallists who are incredibly self sufficient so they can stay in one place for years without resupply

ebon forge
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Oh i meant the chaos dragon thingy

pastel rampart
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They're the Solid Snakes/Rambo of LoV, basically.

ebon forge
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but thank you still!

ebon forge
thin ibex
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Yeah I'm super fucking sold on the jaegers

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That lore is my jam

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Effectively LoV SAS

jaunty dawn
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and her spear mutates stuff and will also mutate her if she breaks concentration, which she has done exactly once which is why she looks daemony

ebon forge
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Very nice!

spice flicker
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I'll be honest about the skaven, I've always found them to be neat but never been much of a fan of the jezzails but the new trailer made them interesting to see. Also I was surprised at the speed of the leaked skaven gatling vehicle. I figured it'd be slow to move and maybe fire (expecting more artillery than tank role) but nope it can apparently do both pretty fast.

topaz elk
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Hey question about Kroot, are the more animalistic among them (hounds, Knarlocs, Krootox) still sentient?

unreal cosmos
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I don't believe so

valid brook
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3.5e codex had a bit on how Krootox display protective behavior towards other kroot that painted them as somewhere in the “smart dog” ballpark

unreal cosmos
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if I recall the thing about kroot beasts is if you go too far in one direction you lose the adaptation power, so after enough generations they get kind of "stuck"

topaz elk
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Ah ok

valid brook
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“Dead end” is definitely a phrase the old fluff used for non-sapient kroot forms

tall depot
thin ibex
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effectively the evolutionary path that led the kroot offshoots to being hounds and hawks and krootox didn't prioritize the utility of greater intellect

thin ibex
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dont usually see traitors turned back to loyalists

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imperiums usually pretty damning about that, thats cool

unreal cosmos
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yeah it would be cool to have a named loyalist-turned-traitor character but it's also cool to have some rep for the WS's Slayer types

ebon forge
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That seems like a rollercoaster of emotions how that would even happen

thin ibex
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theres definitely a story there

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which is half the fun imo

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there's rarely a situation where traitor turns back to loyalist, some would say its impossible, but that makes a character who did that much mroe intriguing

unreal cosmos
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Basically a sizable portion of White Scars defected to Horus's side for a mixture of reasons (the Legion as a whole was never that attached to the Imperial core and a bunch of the veterans had worked with Horus longer than Jag) and after the loyalist side krumped 'em, a handful of the defectors begged forgiveness and Jag said "okay your job is now to throw yourself at the enemy until you're dead"

pulsar cairn
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i'll use mad science to mash an ork and a skaven together

pulsar cairn
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makes sense tho

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Horus was like...quite the lad before going cray cray vicksyThink

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was there anyone besides Corvus who did not like him?

unreal cosmos
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They have a special Rite of War where your infantry units can't give victory points for being destroyed so on certain Death Match style missions it's possible for them to be borderline unbeatable simply because you can't score off them

pulsar cairn
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did that happen with anyone else?

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like

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primarchs accepting sons who went traitor back into their ranks?

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loyalist primarchs that is

bright dove
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Alpharius. 😛

pulsar cairn
thin ibex
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i dont think we have many stories at all of traitors being accepted back, but im sure in the scope of 40k, its certainly happened

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aside from the scars in hh i mean

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the circumstances, nominally in 40k, would need to be rather exceptional

bright dove
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For the non-Heresy case, there's the redemption crusades.

thin ibex
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arent those largely similar? like "ok fine, go crusade till you are totally spent"

bright dove
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Yes.

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Which just seems to be the approach generally speaking.

thin ibex
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imperium be big on penitence through total sacrifice

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ooo im loving my brain going to ork kommandos vs LoV Jaegers

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very cool match up

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phobos KT vs jaegers also feels like a fun "shadow battle" vibe

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Another silly goober list

spice flicker
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That's a lot of assault intercessors in the Detachment that prefers standing still

thin ibex
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It's OK, there are even more normal intercessors

spice flicker
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1000 points tau list debate: 2nd riptide or a ghostkeel?

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For reference:

Ethereal
Cadre fireblade

2x10 strike team

2x3 stealth team
1x6 stealth team

2x broadsides (heavy rail rifle, 2x missile drone, sms)
Riptide (ion accelerator)
835/1000 points

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Lean more into stealth theme with ghostkeel? Take a 2nd riptide to give more heavy suits to the list? Take a breacher team+Devilfish for a more infantry focus feel?

rocky shale
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Oh no, 1 of the new csm detachments will be for followers of vashtorr, I guess I'm gonna have to be a csm player now

junior robin
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speaking of Vashtorr, now that the horned rat is officially the 5th chaos god on AoS, do you think Vashtorr will get the same treatment in 50k since hereteks are the closest thing to skavens clan Skryre? thinkaboutit

bright dove
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Probably not.

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The Great Horned Rat has been the 5th Chaos god since Endtimes.

junior robin
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also starting to think the designers of LoV are reading my mind because they keep releasing cool stuff thats really hard to convert to chaos videogames

desert jay
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Have you tried gluing more skulls and spikes to it?

junior robin
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going for a more neutral heretek/meat slaves and robot overlord kind of theme, so not sure how to fit a lot of spikes into it sadcowboy

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also really happy that we get a detatchment themed on each of the chaos legions in the codex 😌

thin ibex
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i do note that you're only chaff/melee blocker is currently the stealthsuits and the single tide, id take 2 tides

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as they can stall out enemy melee, and can still shoot in melee

mental birch
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ghostkeel is funnier

thin ibex
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iirc tau stealthsuits got an upgrade, their stealth camo gives -1 to w too on incoming fire in the new dex

mental birch
thin ibex
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ahhh

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thats what it was

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knew it had to do with wounds

spice flicker
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Ion or burst for 2nd riptide?

upper bluff
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Burst probably

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But I'm also a sucker for redundancy

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So maybe another ion

spice flicker
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Kinda wish tau had a stealth character now

jaunty dawn
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like a generic one?

spice flicker
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Yeah

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Make a pure stealth army composition easier

tepid stratus
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Yeah I'm surprised there's no like pathfinder shasvre or ghostkeel commander

mental birch
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Twin Ion is what I lean towards

thin ibex
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they DO have a stealth character, its Shadowsun

spice flicker
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Honestly a new project is trying to design a satisfying 1k points list for each faction. This way if I ever invest in one I kinda have a good starting point to aim for when starting and also in case I find myself in a crusade campaign that starts at 1k points I'll be ready.

mental birch
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New codex I dunno

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For tau

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Current index I'm a fan of the list I currently run

thin ibex
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personally i like the burst better, but the multi damage on the ion is stronk

mental birch
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I call

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Fundamentals of tu

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Taau

jaunty dawn
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yeah there is shadowsun and darkstrider

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but doesn't help if you need to take any enhancements

spice flicker
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So far the factions I've designed a 1k points list for are: tau (now), IK, CK, necrons, sisters, custodes with more on the way.

mental birch
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Tau is volatile

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We don't know the points yet sadly

thin ibex
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im suspecting retaliation cadre or montka becoming the competetive detachments, with a focus on the fusion crisis team being fairly common

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but i also suspect hammerheads will stay in vogue

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i like how stealthsuits are the higher quality spotters and the pathfinders are the higher quantity spotters, for units out of the codex

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I do think we'll prolly see a lot of kroot armies coming out of the woodworks, but im not sure how competetive they'll ultimately be, while still being fairly fragile and lacking armor busting access reliably

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mostly cause kroot are cool

valid brook
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Hell yeah kroot gang; I have a bunch of carnivores from ages ago laid up somewhere and I’ll admit I am sorely tempted to go all in on the new stuff

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Sold most of my old Tau but couldn’t part with the freaky lil guys

upper canopy
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Hell fuck yeah

mental birch
jaunty dawn
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that are on all the objectives

mental birch
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Yeeee

thin ibex
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If enough people can't, you're gonna see some funny skew builds for anti infantry specialist weaponry, like the gladiator reaper, punisher leman, etc

mental birch
tired cairn
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Kroot won't be the first hyperhordes list to exist. Tyranids had some that got good success, though aiui more balanced lists are still more popular

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Though I wonder how much that is for gameplay reasons lol

jaunty dawn
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yeah its being compared to endless horde

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which also has unit revive

spice flicker
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Gaunts don't have stealth or invulns though

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So the points on the kroots will definitely determine what will happen.

raw vessel
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This is not a place of honor. No highly esteemed deeds are commemorated here.

jaunty dawn
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apparently the points in the codex are like ridiculous high yeah

spice flicker
#

Truly a kill or be killed area for the kill teams.

jaunty dawn
#

so gotta wait what a month for the full release with mfm

spice flicker
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I'd like to place a bet regarding the knights codex: if we don't get bondsman back to both questoris and armigers before the codex I wouldn't be surprised if it's relegated to a Detachment if we even get it back at all.

junior robin
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really wish my brain could stop overhyping the upcomming csm detatchments with things that 100% wont happen fine

naive abyss
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somewhat random but i wanna say i appreciate that stormcast have slowly gotten more like vaguely wild barbarian trappings/gubbins

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it makes them a nice mirror to chaos warriors and reps sigmars origins more which i like

jaunty dawn
#

mm

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sigmar chaos warriors

naive abyss
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i mean ultimately in some ways that is what stormcast are

jaunty dawn
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100%

naive abyss
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which like at the start of them coming out was not communicated very well visually imo

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but like the newer stuff having more furs and etc on them really makes it more aligned to that concept

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it also just looks good

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like heavy armor wtih furs is a forever top tier look

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hell its why i like that new chaos lord

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and feel baseline csm should look more liek that lol

naive abyss
pulsar cairn
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Sigmar had some redeemed chaos lads right?

naive abyss
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uhh the only one i know of thats directly canon is neave i think

floral herald
#

Fuck, I needed to have somehow gone to Adepticon this year

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Are adepticon stats/results out yet?

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I'm curious who the Ball Pit Champion is

past sphinx
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I beginning to get excited about this fucker

uneven ember
spice flicker
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With skaven taking a big role at the start of 4th edition, any hope of an AOS vermintide game this edition?

raw vessel
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Given how much time Darktide needed to keep cooking, I'd be fine with that being a long way off

thin ibex
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fatsharks kinda got its hands full atm, itd have to be a different studio probably

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also i feel like to really get into the AOS vibe, you kinda play like much more... characters embodying classic power fantasies; given that mechanically your characters in vermintide are absolutely ludicrous

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but narratively you have just an elite soldier, a witch hunter, a dwarven ranger, a waystalker, and a battle wizard of fire. All of which effectively get represented in one faction in AOS

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except maybe the waystalker

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i feel like the narrative tone would definitely shift if you were playing stormcast or seraphon or something (though that would actually probably bring things in line mechanically lol)

still warren
#

I would love if I could play an Idoneth elf

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But also the more dwarf engineer subclass would probably be a khadron overlord dwarf?

past sphinx
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i dont think you could meaningfully make much beyond whats already covered in VT2's classes in a way that really suits AoS's more heightened vibe

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i mean look how well the darktide classes are going

pastel rampart
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I know someone mentioned the other day an AoS soulsborne game and honestly I think that may be one of the best ways to make an AoS game that isn't, y'know, an obvious army-wide game.

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Crib off the hub-like nature of Demon's Souls and go into the various realms. Playing a stormcast gives you a perfect in-universe respawn.

floral herald
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Oh that does sound cool

past sphinx
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i think a small unit turn based game could work really well

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like 10 man xcom

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but with hammers

still warren
pastel rampart
pastel rampart
still warren
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I could see an army level game working but you're managing just one army, a CoS crusade

pastel rampart
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Shrinking the scale to a single character you control does a lot to get the player invested in the game, and that can help sell it to people.

pastel rampart
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still warren
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I mean eh not really? You don't carry over the same army from level to level.

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Thinking specifically it's a CoS dawnbringer campaign

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Could be a roguelite too, fits the high failure rate of them

pastel rampart
#

It could work, perhaps. But for a first outing for AoS video game, it hasn't exactly made a splash.

floral herald
#

Maybe they were cousins

pastel rampart
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*lovers

floral herald
#

Ah better

pastel rampart
#

They meet on the battlefield again and you could cut the sexual tension with a chainfist.

past sphinx
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i like him

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hate the smoke

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granted the old jumplord was err

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interestingly posed

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funny enough

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4 years ago a dude converted the new one

bold halo
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can chalk that one up to limits of 90s pewter casting

pastel rampart
#

He was released in the late 00s actually.

bold halo
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damn I always thought he was older

floral herald
#

He’s got the soul of a 90s pewter casting for sure

bold halo
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being contemporary with the old metal jump pack chaplain is wild

pastel rampart
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Ah, 2007, that was it.

bold halo
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god age of sigmar keeps trying to pull me in

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these are top tier weirdos

pastel rampart
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Mind, that was the same year they released the plastic terminator chaos lord which had multiple options so they could've just given a plastic chaos lord kit with a jump pack as an option.

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But CSM never got a power armor multi-option kit like SM did.

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(CSM also didn't get plastic raptors until 2012)

past sphinx
bold halo
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love that one of them is actually two guys in a trenchcoat

past sphinx
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there was a lot more conversion required if you wanted WYSIWYG back then

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IIRC there was a farseer loadout you needed to cut bits from like 3 kits to make if you wanted to be strict about it

bold halo
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yeah 2007 eldar was clowncar spam anyways though

past sphinx
#

i was still very quietly badly painting space wolves then and my friend was too poor to really buy enough for cheese

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i might still have a few thunder hammers with miliput mold lines lmao

bold halo
#

oh I was a broke high school student who couldn't commit to a faction back then lmao

bold halo
#

but I made up for lack of minis to paint with time spent absorbing any and all information I could so I got a very good feel for the competitive metagame of the time

still warren
bold halo
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I'm still thrown off from there being both underworld and warcry with very similar vibes

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being able to just grab one box is great tho

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I'm also very jealous of my tau-playing brother atm because huge brawler cavalry like the new krootox are my shit

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but I'm not gonna play tau to get there

pastel rampart
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Underworld is more a board game/card game hybrid with minis than the more skirmish-like Warcry.

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Both small-scale but executed very differently.

past sphinx
#

warcry has a whole list of large and expensive wandering monsters for you to buy

bold halo
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I DO love monsters

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back in the day I chose dark elves as my warhammer fantasy faction because they had the highest density and variety of monsters

past sphinx
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theres some pretty perfect weird fuckin creatures

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sadly no weird fuckin dudes for hire

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just the warbands

topaz elk
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Now that’s a weapon to kill the emperor

tall depot
#

lmao

thin ibex
jaunty dawn
#

I hope if dkok rumours are true we get a proper engineer squad

brittle salmon
#

What rumours? :0

jaunty dawn
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just that there'll be a bunch of dkok plastic

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uh there's definitely some truth to it because there wasa rumour engine which had a dkok transfer on it

brittle salmon
#

oh neat

spice flicker
#

So 1k sons are next up on my list of armies to design a 1k points crusade force for and i say I'm really satisfied with this list. I feel like it's lacking a little but thoughts?

Exalted Sorcerer on disk (prosperine khopesh and warprlame pistol) (115)
Thousand sons Sorcerer (warpflame pistol) (95)
Thousand sons terminator Sorcerer (warlord) (115)

3x5 rubric Marines (icon of flame) (soul reaper cannon doesn't benefit from icon) (3x105)
1x5 Scarab Occult Terminators (soul reaper cannon) (215)

Forgefiend (2x autocannons and ectoplasma cannon+claws) (135)

990/1000 points

thin ibex
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hmm, so personally id see if you cant squeeze a vortex beast into the list

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i think they're one of hte best things the Tsons have got

spice flicker
#

Let me put the individual points cost in the list real quick.

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The MVB is 165 points

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I know I'm not a fan of tzangors at all and have no intentions of ever using them. If I got rid of the forgefiend and a squad of rubrics that'll leave me with 240 points. If I take the beast that'll leave me with 75 points which can be used for a chaos spawn or some tzangors but I'd rather not if I can.

spice flicker
#

Decided to move on from thousand sons and onto the next of the 1k crusade list project: Black Templars. This list is small and likely not that good but it does do 3 things decently: melee output, anti-tank potential, and getting that melee where it needs to be.

Black templars crusade

Castellan
Marshal (warlord)

2x10 primaris crusaders (all kitted for melee)
1x5 intercessors (someone has to hold the rear objective)

2x Land raiders

985/1000

solemn gull
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Wonder what a genestealer infected Voltann would look like

pastel rampart
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They'd look vaguely like Danny DeVito.

solemn gull
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Well they’d be fully bald

unreal cosmos
#

you already have some with forehead weirdness

solemn gull
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Yoo he does have the forehead wrinkles

jaunty dawn
#

fuuun!

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love those little hormaguants, their colour scheme matches the terrain great too

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need to pick up some of them

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kinda wish they'd gone to 20 a box though tbh

pastel rampart
#

note that you can also get those plastic plants for really cheap off aliexpress too

jaunty dawn
#

oh!!

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that little apc is really cute too

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didn't realise they were marines (looks like scythes?) at first haha

pastel rampart
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Yeah, wish I knew where that APC is from.

spice flicker
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Left image is definitely scythes

bright dove
pastel rampart
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Yup! As did a lot of hobby sites in the early 00s. Lots of tutorials call for stuff like that.

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It's just kinda funny how every so often it gets rediscovered.

spice flicker
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Those pictures are making me want to invest in nids now.

unreal cosmos
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it's a pleasingly naturalistic scheme

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kinda lizardy

thin ibex
#

I feel like a kid fussing in their seat, waiting for new tau dex info and points to drop into the online resources

jaunty dawn
#

real points will take a while :(

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ooooh

spice flicker
#

I feel like the tau codex was written as one of the earlier ones. Also did I hear correctly that CSM is getting 7 detachments?

jaunty dawn
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tauros type thing

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almost; they're getting 7 new detachments

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for 8 total

floral herald
#

5 legions not covered by other books, and I'm guessing the last three are cultists, vashtorr, and Dark Pacts

spice flicker
#

I find it funny that CSM only has like 4 more models than the tau yet has twice as many detachments.

jaunty dawn
#

alpha legion/black legion/iron warriors/word bearers/night lords/emp childs still/renegade slash red corsairs/vashtorr

spice flicker
#

Tau could have had detachments based on the different seats but nope. One for the farsight enclave, one for kroot, and one for each of the two main combat philosophies of the tau.

jaunty dawn
#

if that's how it is emperor's children would be kinda absorbing creations of bile too

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I wouldn't call the crisis detachment farsight enclave?

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but yeah they definitely could have had more

spice flicker
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Wonder if they'll ever get any extra ones like dark eldar did? Or was the extra DE one just an early release of pre-planned stuff?

jaunty dawn
#

probably the latter

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like how armour of contempt turned out to be a pre-release of votann's void armour

spice flicker
#

I'll honestly find it hilarious if LoV have more detachments than tau.

jaunty dawn
#

that'd be wild yeah

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I think the main 'sept' detachment I'd want from tau would be a dal'yth auxiliary focused one but it would kinda just end up being the kroot+tau detachment

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which the kroot detach already does pretty well

spice flicker
#

My prediction for knights is that there will be around 3 detachments for CK and IK each. For IK you'll have one for the Imperium aligned knights (Noble Lance), mechanicum aligned nights (think house raven), and freeblades. For chaos I'm not too sure tbh.

jaunty dawn
#

maybe a mirror to the current csm one which gives them marks

spice flicker
#

Honestly with either (or both) knights I just want a Detachment that makes going heavy on the big guys great and viable. A Detachment to try and provide a better option than armiger/war dog spam somehow.

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I don't know how it could be done but I wish it could be so.

jaunty dawn
#

I wonder if tau empire was the sacrificial lamb of the early codices in terms of gauging reception of low detachment count

spice flicker
#

What would you say is the general reception so far? Honestly I'm not the biggest fan of the low Detachment count.

jaunty dawn
#

not great yeah

floral herald
#

CSM has a lot of really generalist units it’s easy to tape detachment rules onto

jaunty dawn
#

I think there's also a lot more like

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legion fans than there are sept fans for better or worse

floral herald
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That’s true

jaunty dawn
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like a significant amount of people play a legion, not csm in general

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even more than regular marines I think

floral herald
#

I used to play Tau and the septs mostly feel like color schemes to me

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I know they have lore and sort of different doctrine but I don’t really know the specifics

jaunty dawn
#

I think apart from farsight enclaves yeah

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there's just generally a difference between factions that existed mechanically before subfactions became universal in 8e

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imo

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like septs and hive fleets were made to be colour schemes

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whereas stuff like marines were built from the ground up with chapter tactics

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and like part of that is definitely favouritism I think

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cause a big part of that was that space marines and csm got their own section in white dwarf for ages, which was where all their 3e rules were published

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but it's nonetheless a fact of the matter

floral herald
#

I think it also happens to the really adaptable factions more

floral herald
#

Ryobi seems like a bit of a stretch but lol

south axle
#

It being the only stretch is kinda impressive still

floral herald
#

Yeah 100%

thin ibex
spice flicker
#

Is the toilet off camera facing both of them being sat on by the emperor?

zinc field
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So a while back I got a truly awful recast cerastus lancer

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And I’ve been turning it into bits for my other knights

#

Like this chainfist

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But now I don’t know what to use for fingers - the originals seem kinda stubby, and they’re not claw-ey enough. Anybody got suggestions?

pastel rampart
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Clearly, more chainfists.

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Chainfist fingers.

spice flicker
#

Thoughts on this Soulblight Gravelord list? I know it is very simplistic but am trying to wrap my head around the faction and seeing if this would work and be a decent list.

Legion of the Night

Vampire Lord
Wight King (General)
Necromancer

10x Grave Guard (musician, standard bearer, Great Wight Blade)
10x Grave Guard (musician, standard bearer, Great Wight Blade)
20x Grave Guard (musician, standard bearer, Great Wight Blade)
20x Grave Guard (musician, standard bearer, Great Wight Blade)
20x Grave Guard (musician, standard bearer, Great Wight Blade)
20x Grave Guard (musician, standard bearer, Great Wight Blade)

1990/2000 points

past sphinx
brittle salmon
#

Aren't Grave Guard pretty slow?

spice flicker
#

Yeah I know spamming 100 of the same unit isn't the most fun to play or fight but.... the plan was to build an army that can deal damage and just keep coming back in an unending tide/blob of sorts. Also because large horde of armored skeletons seem just a little cool.

brittle salmon
#

My main worry is its a bit too one dimensional to the point where you'll be picked to pieces by strong ranged firepower before you hit their ranks

#

If you diversify just a little bit with some fast flanking cavalry then I think you hit a good medium

spice flicker
#

Yeah SBGL from what I've seen have range as a big weakness

brittle salmon
#

I'm not up to date with the SBGL but it has most of the non ghoul and ghost Vampire Counts stuff, iirc

spice flicker
#

I could swap out the 2x10 grave guard for some black knights.

brittle salmon
#

So a few skeleton knights would work wonders yeah

spice flicker
brittle salmon
#

Hounds also fulfill the same function if they're around

thin ibex
#

does single threat overload not workout well in aos?

#

or is that old world?

brittle salmon
#

Just something to rapidly tie up any high power ranged stuff

brittle salmon
spice flicker
#

If I go with trading thr 2x10 grave guard for 2x5 black knights I will be at 1930/2000 and idk enough about the endless spells to know what would be worth it since SBGL doesn't have any 70 points units.

brittle salmon
#

If you hit it from the side it's weak to, it can't deal with it

thin ibex
#

thats fair, though you do rely on a tac list not having enough responses

bright dove
#

Wolves are pretty good flankers and summonable, iirc.

thin ibex
#

id say wolves might be the way to go

#

quick, a bit chaff, and will tie up most ranged specialist for at least a turn

#

which can be huge

bright dove
#

And the extra mobility is nice for objective play.

brittle salmon
#

The Horrorghast endless spell seems pretty nice

thin ibex
#

mm ill bump around with some aos lists tonight

#

ive been feelinga bit stagnant with my hundreds of 40k lists xD

bright dove
#

AoS lists are fun

thin ibex
#

im not very good at it, the names often kinda blend together for me

#

have to look up pics of the units

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also like learning unit lore

bright dove
#

Unit lore is very nice

still warren
#

AoS app is nice for that, always has a unit picture

bright dove
#

It's what makes me like Ungor raiders so much.

thin ibex
#

ohh?

#

i use new recruit, which is the aos app?

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also, does it export nice?

still warren
#

WH aos app is the name, it's the official one.

thin ibex
#

tyty

#

i heard it was better than the 40k version

bright dove
#

It does cost money, iirc

thin ibex
#

oh drats

still warren
#

Definitely better than the 40k app, gonna test the export feature now. Also it doesn't cost money

#

A few things like grand strategys you won't see the rules for but you can look that up on waahpedia. Warscrolls are all there and generic stuff

bright dove
#

Oooo

still warren
#

Here's an example of the export function just as examples because you asked Storm

  • Army Faction: Cities of Sigmar
    • Subfaction: Greywater Fastness
    • Grand Strategy: Control the Nexus
    • Triumph: Bloodthirsty
      LEADERS
      Alchemite Warforger (100)
      Steam Tank Commander (290)
    • General
    • Command Traits: Master of Ballistics
    • Artefacts of Power: Mastro Vivetti’s Magnificent Macroscope
      Pontifex Zenestra (180)
      BATTLELINE
      Freeguild Steelhelms (100)
      Freeguild Steelhelms (100)
      Freeguild Fusiliers (510)
      Freeguild Fusiliers (510)
    • Fusil-Sergeant
    • 3 x Fusilier Herald
      OTHER
      Freeguild Cavaliers (180)
    • Arch-Knight
    • Cavalier Herald
    • Arch-Knight’s Blade
      TOTAL POINTS: 1970/2000
      Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
thin ibex
#

steamtank warlord is a flex

#

ty

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do you know if its available on browser?

still warren
#

I don't think so

spice flicker
#

Decided to test out the app with nighthaunt and this is supposed to be emerald host but the app wouldn't let me fix the misclick.

  • Army Faction: Nighthaunt
    • Subfaction: The Quicksilver Dead
    • Grand Strategy: A Soul to Claim
      LEADERS
      Dreadblade Harrow (110)*
      Lady Olynder (270)*
      Spirit Torment (120)*
      Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed (130)**
    • General
    • Command Traits: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts
    • Artefacts of Power: Soulfire Ring
      BATTLELINE
      Chainrasps (200)*
      Spirit Hosts (130)*
      Hexwraiths (340)**
    • Hellwraith
      Hexwraiths (340)**
    • Hellwraith
      Hexwraiths (340)**
    • Hellwraith
      CORE BATTALIONS
      *Warlord
      **Vanguard
      TOTAL POINTS: 1980/2000
      Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
#

Essentially ghostly cavalry charge with a spirit host to soak wounds for Olyander and a spirit torment supporting a chainrasps speedbump.

thin ibex
#

Maybe a bit thin on the ground

#

But everything flies and hits good

spice flicker
#

Full on dragon cavalry I see

#

Me and the bones patrol (grave guard+friends) might not look as impressive against that but well we'll try.

thin ibex
#

I game no idea how good these units actually are, but they seem hyper elite and dragons are cool

#

But I would like maybe more variety for a real army

spice flicker
#

Since you like tau have you ever considered the greater good that is the Great Horned Rat?

thin ibex
#

Lol I'll take a look at least

#
 - Army Faction: Stormcast Eternals
     - Army Type: Scions of the Storm
     - Subfaction: Tempest Lords
LEADERS
Lord-Celestant on Stardrake (480)*
Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (250)*
Knight-Draconis (300)*
BATTLELINE
Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (220)*
OTHER
Stormdrake Guard (680)*
Aetherwings (70)*
CORE BATTALIONS
*Brotherhood Command
TOTAL POINTS: 2000/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
#

Same army style in the app

spice flicker
#

Lots of range, lots of melee, lots of bodies, lots of advance tech, lots of shenanigans

thin ibex
#

i do like how hte app lets me check the lore of a unit

#

but also stormcast unit lore is

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"honor, few, rare, powerful, might, smite"

#

but like rearranged

#

in various ways

#

i do wanna try like a noble band of just heroes, with the celestant prime and the lady hand forged by sigmar, and maybe the fancy dragon

spice flicker
#

They're essentially AOS custodes

#

While the ossiarch bonereapers are also AOS custodes

thin ibex
#
  • Army Faction: Stormcast Eternals
    • Army Type: Scions of the Storm
    • Subfaction: Tempest Lords
    • Grand Strategy: Pillars of Victory
    • Triumph: Inspired
      LEADERS
      Celestant-Prime (330)
    • General
      Karazai the Scarred (510)
      Yndrasta (260)
      Neave Blacktalon (340)
      BATTLELINE
      Vindictors (110)
    • Vindictor-Prime
    • Azyrite Signifier
      Vindictors (110)
    • Vindictor-Prime
    • Azyrite Signifier
      Vindictors (110)
    • Vindictor-Prime
    • Azyrite Signifier
      OTHER
      Neave’s Companions (340)
      Lorai (340)
      TOTAL POINTS: 1770/2000
      Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
spice flicker
#
  • Army Faction: Skaven
    • Grand Strategy: Arch-corruptors of the Mortal Realms
      LEADERS
      Plague Priest (100)*
      Plague Priest On Plague Furnace (270)*
    • General
      Warlock Engineer (90)**
    • Spells: More-more-more Warp Power!
      BATTLELINE
      Plague Censer Bearers (200)*
      Plague Monks (180)*
    • Pair of Foetid Blades
      Plague Monks (180)*
    • Pair of Foetid Blades
      Plague Monks (180)*
    • Pair of Foetid Blades
      ARTILLERY
      Plagueclaw (90)*
      Plagueclaw (90)**
      Warp Lightning Cannon (130)**
      Warp Lightning Cannon (130)**
      OTHER
      Rat Ogors (260)*
      ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS
      1 x Warp Lightning Vortex (80)
      CORE BATTALIONS
      *Battle Regiment
      **Grand Battery
      TOTAL POINTS: 1980/2000
      Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
thin ibex
#
 - Army Faction: Skaven
     - Grand Strategy: Warpstone Weaponmasters
     - Triumph: Indomitable
LEADERS
Warlock Bombardier (100)*
     - Spells: More-more-more Warp Power!
Warlock Engineer (90)*
     - Spells: Warp Lightning Shield
Arch-Warlock (150)*
     - General
     - Command Traits: Overseer of Destruction
     - Artefacts of Power: The Brass Orb
     - Spells: Chain Warp Lightning
Warlock Engineer (90)**
BATTLELINE
Clanrats (200)*
     -  Clanrat Bell-ringer
     - Clanrat Standard Bearer
     - Rusty Spear
Clanrats (200)*
     -  Clanrat Bell-ringer
     - Clanrat Standard Bearer
     - Clawleader
     - Rusty Spear
Stormvermin (360)*
     - Stormvermin Drummer
     - Stormvermin Standard Bearer
     - Fangleader
BEHEMOTH
Doomwheel (140)*
ARTILLERY
Warplock Jezzails (110)**
Warplock Jezzails (110)**
Warplock Jezzails (110)**
OTHER
Doom-Flayer (60)
Doom-Flayer (60)
Doom-Flayer (60)
Ratling Gun (60)*
Ratling Gun (60)*
CORE BATTALIONS
*Battle Regiment
**Grand Battery
TOTAL POINTS: 1960/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
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I don't understand hiding units within units

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I have the ratling guns and doom flayers in the big infantry blocks

spice flicker
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They're meant to Ambush the opponent. Go charging into or get charged by what looks like just clanrats and suddenly a quarter of the army is just right there ready to lay down fire.

thin ibex
#

Oh hmm, so like the ratling guns in the clan rats is good or bad

spice flicker
#

Give the clan rats some support but if clan rats get wiped before the ratling gunners are revealed They're gone.

desert jay
#

Vashtorr The Arkifane is an anagram of If The Arks Are Rat Horn

quaint compass
#

📯

desert jay
#

Wait no I misplaced the V somewhere

tired cairn
#

The Rats Are Rat Horn V

junior robin
#

V is 5 in Roman numerals and the horned rat is the 5th chaos god!!!!

#

Everything makes sense now!

south axle
#

If we open up Vashtorr we will find a horned rat

unreal cosmos
pastel rampart
#

So #goldendemon is finally here and it's time to unveil the piece that's captured my heart: a reflection of Cado's dual struggle with vengeance and honnor, as told in 'The Hollow King.' It's been a journey of patience and precision to bring this vision to life, blending old-school gaming render techniques of reflections with miniature painting.
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thin ibex
#
  • Army Faction: Seraphon
 - Army Type: Coalesced
 - Subfaction: Koatl's Claw
 - Grand Strategy: Continuous Expansion
 - Triumph: Bloodthirsty

LEADERS
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (240)*
- General
- Command Traits: Thickly Scaled Hide
- Artefacts of Power: Sotek’s Gaze
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)*
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Aggradon (160)*
- Relic Celestite Spear
BATTLELINE
Kroxigor Warspawned (340)*
- 2 x Starfang War-pick
Saurus Guard (280)*
- Icon Bearer
- Saurus Guard Alpha
- War-drummer
Saurus Warriors (180)*
- Icon Bearer
- Saurus Warrior Alpha
- War-drummer
- Celestite Club
Saurus Warriors (180)*
- Icon Bearer
- War-drummer
- Saurus Warrior Alpha
- Celestite Club
Aggradon Lancers (190)*
- Icon Bearer
- War-drummer
- Aggradon Lancer Alpha
- Celestite Spear
BEHEMOTH
Bastiladon with Solar Engine (250)*
CORE BATTALIONS
*Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: 1980/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

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Feels almost too melee heavy, but also feels decently dangerous

untold swallow
unreal cosmos
untold swallow
#

Oh my god I see a techmarine to the left that isn't painted fully red

#

based

jaunty dawn
#

shattered legions are apparently kinda an underbaked and overambitious mess RAW, but have good rules to steal to make simple but effective fixes

#

blackshields sound very fun, with a pick 2 traits system with what sounds like a lot of traits that get kinda wild

#

solar auxilia allied to a space marines get their own legion trait to represent how they grew to support their patron legion

tired cairn
#

Are Blackshields and Deathwatch related in some way? Or do they just happen to both like black?

upper canopy
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There's Blackshields in the Deathwatch

desert jay
tired cairn
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I get what they are going for

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But the implementation is quite bad

jaunty dawn
#

uh

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hmm

#

deathwatch is founded m32

#

so I don't think there's any direct connection between blackshields and deathwatch

#

blackshields and dw blackshield are both referring to the same action of defacing a chapter icon though

#

hh blackshields aren't necessarily actually black haha

#

and later on the primaris who weren't immediately attached to chapters, and veterans thereof, were called grayshields

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so I think the blackshield/grayshield thing might be a tradition in astartes culture/religion that is maintained throughout the millennia

unreal cosmos
#

those blackshield rules look cool as hell

bright dove
thin ibex
#

is it a worthy attempt? I know little about the greater strategy

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but it feels like saurus are rock solid troops

#

and the kroxigors are thicc

#

no magic feels also maybe weaker?

bright dove
#

Saurus are extremely good troops. AoS really centers around the objective play and accomplishing a tactic for the round.

#

Ah, right, Magic is generally important for the Lizards, but you do have things to help with that, like the Astrolith Bearer iirc.

#

Seraphon spells can just really jack up the efficiency of your army even more.

thin ibex
#

i went for a sort of "beat the hell out of em" army, with a laser cannon

bright dove
#

It certainly can do work in that regard!

#

Some of the only things that are going to be able to stand with Saurus are the big boys, like Ossiarchs

pastel rampart
thin ibex
#

Tried another idea

  • Army Faction: Seraphon
 - Army Type: Starborne
 - Subfaction: Dracothion's Tail
 - Grand Strategy: Realmshaper Guardians
 - Triumph: Inspired

LEADERS
Slann Starmaster (310)*
- General
- Artefacts of Power: Spacefolder’s Stave
- Spells: Stellar Tempest
Terradon Chief (90)*
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)*
BATTLELINE
Saurus Guard (280)*
- Icon Bearer
- Saurus Guard Alpha
- War-drummer
Skinks (90)*
- Skink Alpha
- Boltspitter, Celestite Dagger and Star-buckler
Skinks (90)*
- Skink Alpha
- Boltspitter, Celestite Dagger and Star-buckler
BEHEMOTH
Engine of the Gods (300)*
ARTILLERY
Spawn of Chotec (120)
OTHER
Terradon Riders (200)*
- Terradon Rider Alpha
- Sunleech Bolas
Kroxigor (320)*
- Moonstone Hammer
TERRAIN
1 x Starborne Realmshaper Engine (0)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: 1960/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

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tried to make "Classic Seraphon"

spice flicker
#

Always was interested in a more jurassic park themed list for seraphon. (By that I mean bring a bunch of the big dinos and saurus.)

bright dove
#

It's a good list to be sure.

#
  • Army Faction: Beasts of Chaos
    • Subfaction: Darkwalkers
      LEADERS
      Beastlord (140)*
    • General
    • Command Traits: Bestial Cunning
    • Artefacts of Power: Axe of Morghur
      Great Bray-Shaman (100)**
    • Artefacts of Power: Bleating Gnarlstaff
    • Spells: Vicious Stranglethorns
      Doombull (180)**
    • Nullstone Adornments: Hand-carved Nullstone Icon
      BATTLELINE
      Gors (110)*
    • Banner Bearer
    • Brayhorn Blower
    • Foe-render
    • Hacking Blade and Beastshield
      Bestigors (180)*
    • Brayhorn
    • Banner Bearer
    • Gouge-horn
      Gors (110)*
    • Banner Bearer
    • Brayhorn Blower
    • Foe-render
    • Paired Hacking Blades
      Ungors (80)**
    • Brayhorn Blower
    • Banner Bearer
    • Halfhorn
    • Gnarled Shortspear
      Ungors (80)**
    • Brayhorn Blower
    • Banner Bearer
    • Halfhorn
    • Gnarled Shortspear
      BEHEMOTH
      Cygor (210)*
      Cygor (210)**
      OTHER
      Dragon Ogors (210)*
      Cockatrice (120)*
      Ungor Raiders (130)**
    • Brayhorn Blower
    • Banner Bearer
    • Halfhorn
      Ungor Raiders (130)**
    • Brayhorn Blower
    • Banner Bearer
    • Halfhorn
      TERRAIN
      1 x Herdstone (0)
      CORE BATTALIONS
      *Battle Regiment
      **Battle Regiment
      TOTAL POINTS: 1990/2000
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What I'm doing for a BoC srmy

junior robin
#

Ordered the grey knight combat patrol today so no turning back on looted dreadknight for my space wolfs

thin ibex
#

you looking to keep the strike squad?

junior robin
#

part of me wants to start a 25th army (grey knights) but will probably use parts of the marines in the box as "reclaimed armour" used in "field repair"

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and not as chaos style battle trophies

junior robin
#

though I would love to add a crucified grey knight to the army, but the biggest unit it got was a land speeder and those are gone now plsno

junior robin
wintry mist
#

changed his mind into paste

jovial berry
#

Current WIP on our big lobster ™️ Hive Tyrant.
The tail took four hours to paint buuuhhhh

ebon forge
past sphinx
#

Precision through volume

ebon forge
#

So this is how Black Templars see Librarian marines, i see

past sphinx
#

they do hate reading

ebon forge
#

More than the Space Wolfs ?

past sphinx
#

dog boys can but have better things to do

#

i think a literate templar would irk the upper management of the chapter

#

what good is being a radical space viking if ur bros cant read how cool you are

pastel rampart
#

Space Wolves like reading, but only if its stories about totally rad vikings kicking ass and drinking ale.

past sphinx
#

and large violent animals fighting and eating larger more violent animals

ebon forge
#

So they only read MANLY manga

pastel rampart
#

Grappler Baki is very popular with the SW.

pastel rampart
uneven ember
pastel rampart
#

The gelato building continues.

uneven ember
#

oh nice
Are you molding the greenstuff off something?

pastel rampart
#

Nah, that's foam sheets. Dirt cheap, easy to cut, and have a decent thickness to them.

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The fan is from some cheapo dollar store toy.

uneven ember
#

oh nice

pastel rampart
#

Highly recommended for general crafting purposes. Makes for good metal sheets on stuff, especially orks.

thin ibex
#
  • Army Faction: Seraphon
 - Army Type: Starborne
 - Subfaction: Fangs of Sotek
 - Grand Strategy: Continuous Expansion
 - Triumph: Bloodthirsty

LEADERS
Skink Starseer (160)*
- General
- Command Traits: Master of Star-rituals
- Artefacts of Power: Cloak of Feathers
- Spells: Celestial Harmony
Skink Starpriest (130)*
Terradon Chief (90)*
Ripperdactyl Chief (100)**
Terradon Chief (90)**
Skink Starpriest (130)**
BATTLELINE
Skinks (90)*
- Skink Alpha
- Moonstone Club and Star-buckler
Skinks (90)*
- Skink Alpha
- Moonstone Club and Star-buckler
Skinks (90)*
- Skink Alpha
- Boltspitter, Celestite Dagger and Star-buckler
Raptadon Hunters (150)**
- Icon Bearer
- Raptadon Hunter Alpha
- Hornblower
Raptadon Chargers (150)**
- Raptadon Charger Alpha
- Icon Bearer
- Hornblower
Skinks (90)**
- Boltspitter, Celestite Dagger and Star-buckler
ARTILLERY
Spawn of Chotec (120)*
Spawn of Chotec (120)**
OTHER
Hunters of Huanchi with Dartpipes (130)*
- Chameleon Skink Alpha
- Hornblower
Terrawings (70)*
Ripperdactyl Riders (100)**
Terradon Riders (100)**
- Terradon Rider Alpha
- Starstrike Javelin
CORE BATTALIONS
*Battle Regiment
**Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: 2000/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

desert jay
#

(A chapter level newsletter was attempted but logistical concerns made it impossible)

thin ibex
#

Is there a cities of Sigmar city that kind of exemplifies like... dogged resourcefulness and stubborn refusal to die?

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Or like a smuggler/ crime city?

junior summit
#

thats quite a few of the cities

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freeguilders take on god knows what with steel and powder

jaunty dawn
#

it's a floating city on a big ol sea in Ulgu, realm of shadow

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There was also Anvilgard, a port city in Aqshy, but it got taken over by Morathi-Khaine and is now Har Kuron

jaunty dawn
#

@unreal cosmos kinda mid-revision atm but the basic idea is that the planet they're founded on is a knight/feudal/death world with heavy sisters presence. a few centuries pre era indomitus their gene seed just straight up stopped taking and they didn't want to admit this nor could they figure out why. Then during the indomitus crusade Cawl found some of their gene seed tithe and found it a diverting challenge, and when the torchbearer fleet showed up he was here like "I figured it out, here's a bunch of primaris. turns out it just works on women now" or somethin

unreal cosmos
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I dig it!

jaunty dawn
#

so they recruit from schola at the kinda pre-puberty age so they all grow up with classmates who later become sisters

unreal cosmos
#

I imagine there's potential friction from having to share the same recruitment pool

jaunty dawn
#

this was partially orchestrated by a conspiracy within the inquisition because they believe in miracles and psychically predicted that this would come to pass. and they think if sister candidates become marines you'll get miracle marines

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there's probably like. one sided friction in older elements of the sororitas order but in the younger ranks it mostly just means they have a very strong relationship

unreal cosmos
#

nice!

jaunty dawn
#

the planet is politically like a big split between the ecclesiarchy and the knight nobility. the knights hold most formal power but the sisters order has a lot of influence over them as well performing a lot of policing and such

still warren
#

Some of the 4e new edition art, really hoping we get more of the weirdo ruination chamber stuff

jaunty dawn
#

and then also the idea I had a while back idk if you remember but with putting more of a focus on the chapter command elements like librarians. So like with the Sternguard squad the lore behind them is that they're part of the Apothecary order which develops their special issue ammunition for each new enemy, and protect working apothecaries in the field

unreal cosmos
#

Yeaaah that's cool

jaunty dawn
#

:3

#

thanks!

pastel rampart
jaunty dawn
#

omg

quaint compass
pine matrix
#

Archon With Bird

uneven ember
#

ohhhh, I like

sweet solar
#

post it note astartes warrior token from todays commander game

floral herald
#

Very deserved

junior summit
#

is that a reflection

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but not

#

oh shit that's dope

bright dove
#

It's a full-on vamp reflection, missing the head and hand and everything.

pastel rampart
uneven ember
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oh damn

pastel rampart
#

I get they probably had to paint it up quick because it's a huge board but I do hope they eventually like, go back and add some more color.

solemn gull
#

I fucking love whenever I read about that space hulk game

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it's the coolest thing ever to me

#

every time they are at adepticon I always read the play report

pastel rampart
tired cairn
#

Did anyone pick up the Wrath & Glory Aeldari supplement? The reviews on Drivethru RPG are negative, but it did get updated recently, so I am wondering if they have cleaned it up since launch

upper canopy
#

I read it on release and liked it

tired cairn
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https://preview.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/305327/warhammer-40-000-wrath-and-glory-aeldari-inheritance-of-embers

Copy-and-paste errors abound (notice that the Howling Banshees don't even have Weapon Skill among their required skills even though they're a melee archetype specifically...and then notice that that's because their skill stat line was simply lifted whole cloth from the stealth-and-sniping Ranger archetype).

Similarly, the Wargear chapter is a dreadful mess, and its tables seem largely inconsistent with the Wargear tables

solemn gull
#

I don’t see the complaints about the gear section, It’s pretty full which is an issue I had with WanG’s core rules

junior robin
# quaint compass

to make things even funnier, genestealer cults could have marks of chaos in the old rules.

#

so imagine being a newly starting cult trying to grow quicker by taking over a khorne one only for some world eaters to show up, kill everyone else on the planet and take you with them

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https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cult_Tenebrous also sort of still canon with chaos gsc intensifeyes

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At some point the Cult found itself becoming the infested, rather than the infesters, when their bulk lander was swallowed by a Warp storm that strands them on the outskirts of Nurgle’s Garden. The cult discovers the true meaning of parasitism and horror. Eventually, the Grandfat...

upper canopy
ebon forge
#

Is this glue as good as people say?

pastel rampart
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Yes.

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It's especially good for sealing up very thin gaps, as you can apply a thin layer and it'll partially melt the plastic, thus sealing the gap.

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Now, two things to note:

  1. You can make "sprue glue" with this by dumping bits of plastic (usually sprue) in there. It'll form a plastic goop that you can then apply over larger gaps to fill in spaces; once hardened, you can then shave and cut it like normal plastic.
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKm9rwHFwLs You can also just make extra thin cement at home using basic chemicals, or grab the airbrush cleaner he shows off.

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does it work with Resin?

pastel rampart
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Said cement is a 50/50 (or thereabouts) mix of butyl acetate and acetone, both of which are common chemicals you can purchase in large quantities. Not strictly necessary if you're not gluing a lot of plastic models over years, but for hobbyists like myself and other weirdos with poor purchasing habits it's a big cost-saver.

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And no, you want super glue for resin.

ebon forge
#

But that sprue filler sounds amazing tho

pastel rampart
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It is!

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There's stuff like Mr. Dissolver Putty that's basically sprue glue, and that works fine but you can make it at home for cheap and I recommend it.

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You could probably use sprue glue on resin tho. I've not actually tried it myself, mostly because I haven't encountered a gap big enough in a resin product that'd require anything more than a dab of greenstuff.

ebon forge
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I fear nad respect Resin for their muldable potentio nbut for their toxic potential as well
So maybe is better to stay with epoxy glue for resin

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But will keep in mind the sprue glue at home!

pastel rampart
#

Well, specifically you want to keep to super glue to assemble resin, and any gap-filling after the glue has dried. Which at that point sprue glue will probably do the job.

#

This does remind me that I gotta track down some butyl acetate for cheap and start making my own cement.

wintry mist
ebon forge
#

Remember to eat with sugar to raise the meltability

pastel rampart
ebon forge
#

Finally, number-less dices for Space Wolfs! /j

thin ibex
#

We'd be mad if we could read

floral herald
#

What are those dice for originally?

ebon forge
floral herald
#

ah that makes sense

ebon forge
#

Basically the ones with the claw marks is a success
But the red dice have the jaw marks, which is a rage fail

tired cairn
#

Oh, does 5e WoD not care about 1s generally?

ebon forge
#

oh they do
1-2 on a rage dice and you are fucked

long void
#

oh, how do rage dice function compared to vampire hunger dice?

#

I'd assume they also infect your pool and have the potential to push some messy results

ebon forge
#

Yeah basically, the game calls when you must use a rage dice
Because if you do a regular skill check, it only cares if you rolled a 0-5 6-9 or 10
Rage cares if you rolls a 1-2 3-5 6-9 or 10

You only crit fail if you roll 0 successes on a skill check
Rage makes you crit fail if you roll a 1-2

#

if you want we can move here to the WoD channel

#

Not but yeah
1-2 on a rage dice?
you must kill/incapacitate everything that looks like a treat before resuming doing anything you want

#

'On its own, a single Brutal result is simply treated as
a failure, but two or more on a single test yields a Brutal
outcome. A Brutal outcome causes a test to fail (usually
with something being wrecked, harmed, or destroyed),
unless the aim of the test was to cause damage or injury,
in which case a Brutal outcome yields four additional
successes'

#

fun stuff
The space wolves must deal with that on a regular basis
World Eater live with that

spice flicker
#

In age of sigmar if I am playing the kharadon Overlords and all my vessels are in a battle regiment Battalion but not my whole army, would it still count as a one drop it the units not in the battle regiment are being transported by those within?

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For example if all the army but one squad of arkanaut company were in the battle Regiment but I put the company in a Frigate or ironclad would it still be a one drop or two drop army?

bright dove
#

It is instead of deploying, so their chance to deploy still has to come up. So no.

cinder wraith
#

square bases on a movement tray

spice flicker
#

Thoughts on this list?

  • Army Faction: Kharadron Overlords
    • Subfaction: Barak-Zilfin
    • Grand Strategy: Rule the Skies
    • Stick To The Code (Amendments): Trust To Your Guns
    • Stick To The Code (Artycles): Master the Skies
    • Stick To The Code (Footnotes): There’s No Trading With Some People
      LEADERS
      Arkanaut Admiral (150)
    • General
    • Command Traits: Old Skydog
      Endrinmaster with Endrinharness (90)
      BATTLELINE
      Arkanaut Company (90)
    • Company Captain
    • Aethermatic Volley Gun and Gun Butt
    • Light Skyhook and Gun Butt
    • Skypike
    • Volley Pistol
      Arkanaut Frigate (310)*
    • Heavy Sky Cannon
    • The Admiral's Flagship: The Admiral's Flagship
      Arkanaut Company (90)**
    • Company Captain
    • Aethermatic Volley Gun and Gun Butt
    • Light Skyhook and Gun Butt
    • Skypike
    • Volley Pistol
      Arkanaut Frigate (310)**
    • Heavy Sky Cannon
    • Great Endrinworks: Prudency Chutes
      Arkanaut Frigate (310)**
    • Heavy Sky Cannon
    • Great Endrinworks: Magnificent Omniscope
      Arkanaut Company (90)**
    • Company Captain
    • Aethermatic Volley Gun and Gun Butt
    • Light Skyhook and Gun Butt
    • Skypike
    • Volley Pistol
      OTHER
      Grundstok Gunhauler (180)*
    • Sky Cannon
      Grundstok Gunhauler (180)*
    • Sky Cannon
      Grundstok Thunderers (170)*
    • Gunnery Sergeant
    • Aetheric Fumigator
    • Grundstok Mortar
    • Aethercannon
    • Decksweeper
      CORE BATTALIONS
      *Escort Wing
      **Attack Squadron
      TOTAL POINTS: 1970/2000
      Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App
pastel rampart
junior summit
pastel rampart
#

Yeah, I wouldn't trust it to keep resin together. Fine enough for filling gaps tho.

thin ibex
#

Hmm aos army theme, hit me

soft willow
#

Maximum Herohammer.

thin ibex
#

Damn, Max 6 heroes, minimum 3 BATTLELINE units

thin ibex
# soft willow Maximum Herohammer.
  • Army Faction: Stormcast Eternals
 - Army Type: Scions of the Storm
 - Subfaction: Hallowed Knights
 - Grand Strategy: Pillars of Victory
 - Triumph: Bloodthirsty, Indomitable

LEADERS
Celestant-Prime (330)*
- General
Yndrasta (260)*
Knight-Heraldor (100)*
Ionus Cryptborn (400)**
Neave Blacktalon (340)**
Gavriel Sureheart (110)**
BATTLELINE
Liberators (100)
- Liberator-Prime
- Grandweapon
- Heavens-wrought Weapon and Sigmarite Shield
Liberators (100)
- Liberator-Prime
- Grandweapon
- Heavens-wrought Weapon and Sigmarite Shield
Liberators (100)
- Paired Heavenswrought Weapons
OTHER
Neave’s Companions (340)
Lorai (340)
Praetors (130)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Command Entourage
- Magnificent

**Command Entourage
- Strategists

TOTAL POINTS: 1970/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

thin ibex
#

What was the last thing we had confirmation of for Vulkan? It was the war of the beast right?

#

He's not shown up since?

spice flicker
#

Salamanders still hunting for artifacts to bring him back.

uneven ember
#

Vulcan just really left his Legoin a galactic scavenger hunt.

#

"Oh, you scamps, what fun you will have!"

runic swallow
#

“Huh, I’ve been waiting a while, I hope the lil fellas didn’t get lost, the cake is getting a little stale”

floral herald
#

Ugh, never mind can’t believe I didn’t notice

junior summit
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I"m assuming this is sarcasm

tired cairn
#

Neat concept

unreal cosmos
#

I know the Blackshield rules are going to do something to my brain, I've found out you can actually upgrade your Tacticals' firepower by having them dual-weild carbine stubbers

jaunty dawn
#

yeah it's so cool

thin ibex
#

Let's take a quick look through the army lists that the best players in the world are using to reach the top of the biggest 40K tournaments out there!

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# thin ibex TLDR

It is kinda funny seeing a guard list with more Karsikins then normal guardsman

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Those dudes are just there for moral support

desert jay
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Look when Lord Solar and Creed both show up you pull out your best

thin ibex
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i was intrigues by the absolutely no infantry daemons army

#

also 9 bullgryns out ther like "Im not here to kill you, the artillery will do that for me"

pastel rampart
thin ibex
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just all speed, no brakes

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looking at a brettonian army in disguise

#

also for shame tau army, not a single railgun to be seen

#

oh also laughing and super entertained by the Aeldari army

#

they looked at the hypercrypt and gk teleport detachments an went BET

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and made their own teleporting, jumping, hypermobile army

desert jay
pastel rampart
desert jay
#

Which actually kinda makes me sad for Skarbrand, getting upstaged like that

thin ibex
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i think its cause belakor offers stronger defensive benefits

#

its also interesting to see that a number of lists dont really go hard into anti armor much at all

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the admech list is all about board control for example

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and the aeldari's supermobile list only had 2 units of fire dragons

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hell, not a single land fortress out of the votann

bright dove
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Board control does win games

thin ibex
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also cool to see that the admech list only lost once

mental birch
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Admech goo

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I like having money tho

thin ibex
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Tau getting 1st is pretty sweet, and i udnerstand why no rail, but i am sad to see no rail

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also one last hurrah for spammed CIB i guess

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generally the sky ray feels like its just a more reliable take for both hard and soft targets

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also a big fan of the heavily mechanized votann

junior robin
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I'm more of a heavy mechanical votann fan, really hope we get some big robots soon sadcowboy

mental birch
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Tau is one of tye armies that gets better resuts with literally no changes

junior robin
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finally, a primaris Lieutenant that will pierce the heavens.

mental birch
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Because its so difficult to learn

junior robin
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really hope this drill servo skull is for a multi-part plastic inquisitor kit with 2 pages of options.

pastel rampart
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Jokes on you it's another primaris lieutenant.

junior robin
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finally, the emperors bores

sweet solar
ebon forge
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Orks in Primaris armor when

junior robin
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they really should bring back power armour for orks

upper canopy
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Dawn of War Mega Armor is the best mega armor

ebon forge
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If M' Ork is not waddlin' to walk
Give 'em moar ARMOR

thin ibex
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Primarorks

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Primarons

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Primarinids

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Pridari

valid brook
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Prau

thin ibex
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do yall know, if i run an allied knight in crusade, it still gains xp right?

soft willow
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It does, as it's still a unit in your order of battle.

thin ibex
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totally would do that with my wolves