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#Warhammer and Such
naive abyss
pastel rampart
RT-era model.
naive abyss
they are here to fist
pastel rampart
I originally used it as a minotaur lord because, well. Duh.
naive abyss
mm mm
pastel rampart
https://miniset.net/files/set/gw-99819915013_6.jpg and of course I got the OG. Sadly, never did get the FW one.
naive abyss
this reminds me that gw is stark no titties these days
pastel rampart
I'd like to get the current plastic one but it's hilariously expensive.
naive abyss
but that one slaanesh monster that is all titties is still sold
pastel rampart
Oh the Fiend?
pastel rampart
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Fiends-of-Slaanesh-2019 Yeah it's the fiend
Which is probably the best Fiend model they've ever produced.
naive abyss
man i still find it funny how liberating i find the setting scale of og fantasy/old world
me out here like "oh shit the welves literally live next to the bretonnians so i could totally have them beef with some of the brets or the orcs invading brets while also dealing with beastmen who are causing problems for all three"
pastel rampart
Fantasy ruled, yeah
naive abyss
like its let me escape the brain worms of "every army must be paired with another cuz the scale is so large its hard to explain multiples of my homebrews being around each other to such an extent that the ocd vibrates"
pastel rampart
It's just that post-6th ed they had a slow downturn with less and less sales, coupled with 7th and 8th being just kinda bad and End Times exploding it.
naive abyss
yeah
i recall sadly 
im young but ive been into the hobby since i was like uhhhh idk eight?
something like that
pastel rampart
Storm of Chaos's resolution was not well-met and they muddled about for a decade or so before just axing it.
naive abyss
i shall forever regret getting rid of all my warhammer books
i litearally had like dozens and dozens of oop fantasy books
that at worst i couldve made a good sale on if i didnt want them lol
naive abyss
Storm of Chaos's resolution was not well-met and they muddled about for a decade...
yeah i recall it being gw just wrote it the inverse of what the event they did for it resulted in lol
naive abyss
lol
pastel rampart
They spent months hyping it up and chaos just got their shit kicked in, repeatedly, until the writers had to deus ex machina that they got further than they did.
naive abyss
i am excited for us maybe eventually getting kislev model for old world
and lol yeah
pastel rampart
I still have the ice queen somewhere.
No horse but she used the generic plastic GW one anyway.
naive abyss
like some bear calvalry in plastic would fuck
pastel rampart
It's wild (in a damning sort of way) that Kislev isn't one of the armies on release.
naive abyss
alas yeah
i get them doing brets
and tomb kings
as like a pseudo focus. cuz its like the two old ranges people missed.
pastel rampart
naive abyss
and in TKs case allot of their range is already more or less partially refreshed
naive abyss
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/en-kari-the-arch-tempter Kinda want
vibe
itll be interesting with old world
cuz theres totally stls floating around for allot of total war models i wager
pastel rampart
Oh there is, yeah
naive abyss
i still find it funny how bretts finally won me over
pastel rampart
But they're fairly low-poly and a lot of the look comes from textures.
naive abyss
cuz it was the foot knights and the foot knights having a lady knight
cuz the empire has moved past the "hur dur all dudes" thing via ttrpg art and etc
but bretts were still sorta stuck hard and fast in that regard
and like i dont mind that being a societal fluff thign and etc
but like it was a thing irl too yet lady knights still happened lol
so them more like playing ball with that while maintaining the fluff of their general society is best of both imo
zinc field
Experimenting with a screamer killer. I’m liking this veiny brain effect
zinc field
hand painting
modern tiger
for 10th, what's a good way to upgrade the combat patrol to 1000 points?
naive abyss
ngl i love this scheme he did
white fur with darkish skin is a good look
also big fan of the rusty weapons
also eons is just masterclass in basing ngl
also man the beastmen KT just shows the potential in a range refresh for the goats
thin ibex
I kinda love how orks don't do Gellar fields, they literally have a waaagh aura that kinda sorta works or nothing and they just fight the daemons
Either you get an ork ghost ship or stronger orks
lofty warren
Put wolfdawg in charge of warhammer
naive abyss
To an extent I agree lol
This also makes me want to incorporate this idea into my homebrew barony somehow too
Cuz ghost knights are always fun and evocative
jovial berry
Very nice
unreal cosmos
would I be a fool to 1. join Reddit, 2. join r/Warhammer40k, and 3. make my first post about female space marines?
obsidian flume
You became a fool at step one/j
thin ibex
You would probably seen as baiting. Fool? Probably not, but you'd probably want to prepare for a lot of drivel in response
unreal cosmos
I could go to r/sigmarxism instead but frankly I don't know how much I vibe with them, despite everything
jaunty dawn
so
the gun on big chompa (mount of mozrog skragbad)
does it belong to mozrog or big chompa?
tired cairn
Depends on how close Mozrog is to Big Chompa at the time of the question
jovial berry
I have the T’au combat patrol, time to start building the 23 guys
jovial berry
And when I’m done after 5 years I will go to a local game
unreal cosmos
nice!
jovial berry
fire warriors are pretty easy to build imo
I spent like a month on my Broadside battle suit lmao
Showing the beauty again :)
unreal cosmos
Lookin good!
chilly scroll
broadsides are cool
pastel rampart
Warplock Purple my beloved
onyx elm
I could go to r/sigmarxism instead but frankly I don't know how much I vibe with...
Isn't the whole "debate," on lady space marines based on one small sentence from a 1st edition book?
Also, on a separate-ish note. I always sort of figured space marines || were sterile from their creation process ||
unreal cosmos
Isn't the whole "debate," on lady space marines based on one small sentence from...
Yeah I'm not looking to actually make a case for them in principal because I think that's been covered pretty well, I just got an itch to write up an articulated pitch for reconciling the idea with the current status quo
which is "it's like Discworld dwarfs"
naive abyss
Isn't the whole "debate," on lady space marines based on one small sentence from...
It's a sentence that's been republished a few times unfortunately
Most recently in a HH book and the rogue trader game
unreal cosmos
I think the best cases against it I've seen were Goonhammer going "hey it's kinda messed up to claim that there's immutable biological differences between men and women" and Goobertown Hobbies going "it's not that a faction is unisex, it's that the faction is unisex."
onyx elm
Boo. I just hope they keep up the idea that being a space marine is something no one should want.
naive abyss
I think the best cases against it I've seen were Goonhammer going "hey it's kind...
Section?
naive abyss
Boo. I just hope they keep up the idea that being a space marine is something no...
I mean I don't think they've had that in years
Like allot of homeworld cultures see it as an honor
onyx elm
I mean, from the process you're not some advanced human. Quite the opposite, the atarties are pretty inhuman.
naive abyss
Oh for sure
thin ibex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7al4WzIyGo
kinda nice as a showcase for the firestorm detachmnent
onyx elm
Like allot of homeworld cultures see it as an honor
Oh totally. I mean like, it's not something I'd want done to me lol.
The Imperium venerates a lot of messed up crap.
naive abyss
True lol
naive abyss
Ah
And yeah the face being unisex is bad
Hell half of the newer hobbyists gravitate to aos is probably in part due to stormcast being coed lol
unreal cosmos
like as Goober put it, "Space Marines being No Girls Allowed wouldn't be as big of an issue if, say, the Indomitus box was Sisters v Necrons"
naive abyss
Yeah
I recall his vid on it
Tbh guard should be the face
They literally are baseline humanity and are coed
jovial berry
Waddles in Transfemme Space Marines
thin ibex
i do think itd be a bit rediculous on its face for a faction as desperate for survival as the imperium to balk at the idea of turning women into genetic monstrosity soldiers of indoctrinated fascist death
jovial berry
It is!
upper canopy
would I be a fool to 1. join Reddit, 2. join r/Warhammer40k, and 3. make my firs...
It'd lead to literally nothing constructive
onyx elm
See, Cult Mechanicus doesn't have that problem. They replaced gender with more cogitators and metal tentacles.
jovial berry
Cult Mechanicus says ‘There’s only one binary, the coding binary’
thin ibex
as an aside, ive become enamored again with the idea of "i dont mind wounding on 5's i didn't even roll to hit"
flamer spam gameplay
naive abyss
It's funny that the bretts broke their no ladies thing before marines did
Cuz it's harder baked into their cultural fluff
But we now have a dame in the foot knights
upper canopy
The thing that confuses me most about GW is that we genuinely do not know why there aren't
naive abyss
So now anyone can be a dame lol
upper canopy
Like we have never been given a person or reason for why there isn't from the company's perspective
naive abyss
At this point it's someone in the company who refuses I feel
upper canopy
They've never commented on it, nothings leaked, no one that's left the company has talked about it
naive abyss
Like supposedly there's some real die hard weirdos on that hill in the company
upper canopy
The entire edition will leak before gw is ready but no one will figure out this specific issue
onyx elm
So now anyone can be a dame lol
Well, if South Pacific taught me anything, "There ain't nothin' like a dame!" 🎵
naive abyss
?
Marines? I mean sure but that logic falls apart real quickly imo
Like stormcast are ironically more consistently monk like in behavior
jaunty dawn
it's not logic haha
like yeah the people who made the setting don't know what monks are beyond living in monasteries and calling eachother bro
floral herald
would I be a fool to 1. join Reddit, 2. join r/Warhammer40k, and 3. make my firs...
It’s relatively common for those subreddits to have rules against it to keep the Twitter warriors out
naive abyss
Also like if it was an sob thing. Not girl bones are too weak. That'd be fine lol
floral herald
A bunch of em have moratoriums
naive abyss
But gw has stuck to it being genetic not cultural/philosophical/etc
jaunty dawn
gw are embarassed to say its because they want them all to call each other bro so they post some cope about genetics without thinking about the implications
naive abyss
Lol
thin ibex
yo i kinda love the idea of using the stormlance detachment to run a hella aggressive thunderwolf rider lsit
list
jovial berry
Looking at the assembly manual for the T’au combat patrol and despairing, so many… things to paint perfectly
thin ibex
lol im still putting mine together
the ghostkeel gives me pause
but otherwise im comfortable not going crazy
like i feel a desire to do some edge highlights or edge defeinition on my fire warriors
but i realized
thatd be wasting my time a b it
i can save the detail for the main bois
jovial berry
Oh I just do flat colors for the T’au armor
It’s just I want the panel lines to look perfect
rocky shale
Also like if it was an sob thing. Not girl bones are too weak. That'd be fine lo...
Cawl gives the sob some geneseed to prank the astartes
rocky shale
slams table Give us the giant women GW
naive abyss
Lol
In fairness they have
Just in aos instead
It's ironically part of what sold me on stormcast
That and the newer infantry models not looking nonsensical lol
pulsar cairn
there are warp whales right?
are they like daemon whales or just some random warp creature?
upper canopy
there are warp whales right?
There's potentially malevolent space whales who have void powers but they aren't explicitly of the warp
Just like the Warp Crocodiles are just Crocodiles with Warp Powers
pulsar cairn
that's cool
upper canopy
I played a Naval Adept in Dark Heresy who's ship was eaten by a void whale leaving him as one of the few survivors
Muscle Old Man adept
upper canopy
Nah Dark Heresy is the "you work for the Inqusition" splat
You're basically a Darktide protag
long void
Dark Heresy also had some evocative tables for what happens when you hit negative HP
storm schooner
The dark heresy damage tables are great fun
much better than the imperium Malidictorum one
tardy vault
The crit tables are very good
Nothing quite like your upper arm bone marrow vaporizing so rapidly you become a frag grenade.
glossy vapor
there is a fucked up part of my brain that is thinking about how union/the lancer universe would fare in 40k.
mostly about the combat/tech side of things, since on the political side of things i dont know if it really works. As lancer is a setting with big themes of how the fascists' and warhawks are wrong and there is more than violence to be found when interacting with others, and 40k's setting unfortunately feels like its trying hard to make that outlook seem reasonable. (at least from my limited knowledge)
My current thought is that they would probably be bottom of the food chain, probably even below the tau, because while tau might have less worlds i believe IIRC that they are way more densely militarized.
upper canopy
Power scaling different settings is always gonna be a headache more than an excercise ime
pastel rampart
tired cairn
there is a fucked up part of my brain that is thinking about how union/the lance...
I like the interpretation that the anti-fascism in 40k comes from how totally counterproductively the Imperium (and other factions) is run. But I admit that it's not always so well surfaced
storm schooner
The only real things 'justifying' the facsism in 40k is that "well without it chaos runs rampant"
But I like the interpretation that facsisms the entire reason chaos is so powerful in 40k. So if like they just treated their people better there'd be a lot less issues of corruption
tired cairn
Yeah. It's why so much chaos cultists corruption are rebellions
long void
Unfortunately the surface visuals of 40k has shifted into a lot of heroism.
It requires digging to see the dirty side of everything having to feed the Forever War.
desert jay
And there wouldn't even be a Black Legion/etc in the first place without the Great Crusade
storm schooner
Also like the idea that, as the Tau get more militaristic and shitty they'll get more chaos corruption
jaunty dawn
yeah csm are depicted as like the only chaos worshippers that matter 90% of the time but simultaneously exist only from the emperor's hubris and imperial aims
ebon forge
also man the beastmen KT just shows the potential in a range refresh for the goa...
Yeah is something i love in kt, they can refresh or so small specks into some obscure factions without the need to make huge new armies for them
ebon forge
I kinda love how orks don't do Gellar fields, they literally have a waaagh aura ...
they also have roll up windows
tired cairn
I kinda love how orks don't do Gellar fields, they literally have a waaagh aura ...
Maybe the waaagh aura is when the demons give up on trying to beat up the orks
pulsar cairn
i tottally had the situation under control i'm absolutely certain i didn't just luck out
also btw
we have any Necron Nid conflicts?
Oh there was that one where they had an "alliance" with the blood angels right?
naive abyss
in old fluff nids generally avoided crons
pulsar cairn
is it because they have no bio mass?
naive abyss
more or less yeah
upper canopy
we have any Necron Nid conflicts?
The Silent King sees the Tyranids as the actual main threat to the Necrons, not Chaos
pulsar cairn
i see 
i expected the silent king to lead a whole ass campaing against them, but he did not do that did he?
upper canopy
It's implied he's seen the actual main bulk of the Tyranid invasion
and is desperate to find a way to stop it
pulsar cairn
i mean, they have the tech to create dead zones for chaos, and no souls, Chaos is not much different to them than the eldar i would say
upper canopy
Either that or he saw what the Tyranids are running from
pulsar cairn
just another hostile faction
if they are running from anything at all and didn't just devour everything outside the galaxy
desert jay
Necrons' main issue with Chaos is probably just hereteks looting tomb worlds just like the AdMech do
upper canopy
Necrons just think the warp is hoo-ha mumbo jumbo
pulsar cairn
that got me laughing
pine matrix
"Magic isn't real you idiot" - Necron to Changer of Ways
naive abyss
i think its a combination of "We sealed that shit up once already well do it again" and "we killed our gods and well kill these ones too"
pine matrix
...shit fuck do I want to get necrons now
naive abyss
lol
pulsar cairn
alright
got a chance to win my friend over
gotta show him something cool looking in warhammer
long void
Like, something that distills warhammer into a few images?
rocky shale
<:vicksyHmm:996566512431288390> gotta show him something cool looking in warham...
Harlequins if he's down to clown
pulsar cairn
Like, something that distills warhammer into a few images?
just something that u think looks cool
rocky shale
Uhhh yncarne
naive abyss
some art like this
pulsar cairn
dorf? 
thin ibex
Necrons are cool
pulsar cairn
agreed
naive abyss
this weirdboy art fucks ngl
uneven ember
Necrons' main issue with Chaos is probably just hereteks looting tomb worlds jus...
Headcanon: most Necrons are at best vaguely aware that there is a difference between the Imperium and Chaos, and don't really see the distinction as worth considering.
upper canopy
Headcanon: most Necrons are at best vaguely aware that there is a difference bet...
It's the difference between a crow and a raven
uneven ember
It's the difference between a crow and a raven
"He has horns!"
he has horns, you have nothing, that one has hair
"That's not... remotely the same thing!"
if you say so, man
pastel rampart
This remains like, peak WHFB art for me.
I'd love to have a print of it to hand on my wall.
naive abyss
its good ye
one of my faves is the uhh i think fourth editon dwarf army book art
tbh 4e army book covers overall slap
ngl my fave bretonnia art is the two blanche pieces ive found though
thin ibex
I always love that an aeldari farseer for all their discipline and skill, can get absolutely over powered by a waaagh juiced wierdboy. (Ofc most times the farseer will win in regards to a psychic encounter)
sour sequoia
more than doubled my model collection tonight by pickin up half of leviathan
they weren't kidding that tyranid can swarm
naive abyss
nice
modern tiger
we should push the eye of terror someplace else
push it to terra
pulsar cairn
no >:c
my stuff is in there
also whay created thr great rift again? it couldn't just be cadia going kaboom boom
uneven ember
I think it was.
Cadia had some whatsits that were keeping the EoT from getting too out of control, and when it blew up things just went haywire.
pastel rampart
Cadia had these giant pylons that kept the eye from growing bigger, but during EoT they finally cracked and exploded, taking Cadia with it.
upper canopy
It's also assumed that everything going on made the resultant catastrophe worse
Magnus on Fenris, the Armageddon War, the Damocles Gulf
Etc
thin ibex
Didn't the big Swarm nid Detachment do well recently?
brittle salmon
Yeah they won a GT
thin ibex
Hordes are having a mild Renaissance lol
soft willow
https://vxtwitter.com/Hugo_Llera/status/1712870532704546827
Why is the helmeted space marine's head so tiny?
brittle salmon
I'm 99% sure this uses the style of the old Clone Wars animated series
Which fits the exaggerated proportions
uneven ember
ALL IS PAULDRONS
naive abyss
Why is the helmeted space marine's head so tiny?
It's inspired by gendy
pulsar cairn
is that the guy who made samurai jack?
quaint compass
Ya
pulsar cairn
also heard in a podcast that the Raven Guard is pretty cool to Civilians much like the Salamanders! Not as warm as them but still nice
makes sense considering Corvus's origin
thin ibex
They're nice *for astartes. Would be my take
upper canopy
Ultramarines kinda
pulsar cairn
thought they were indifferent towards civilians
naive abyss
is that the guy who made samurai jack?
And primal which def inspired those proportions imo lol
upper canopy
<:vicksyHmm:996566512431288390> thought they were indifferent towards civilians
Ultramarines have been protags so much that they inevitably have a lot of "but they're cool guys!" Moments
pulsar cairn
i see
i mean back in the Horus heresy they were probably one of the few to actually do some good to the planets they conquered
but I don't think it applies
unreal cosmos
Ultras are generally Noble and kinda like, Civic-Minded
thin ibex
ultramarines are kinda chill with its citizens. They ARE severe, but generally could be considered fair
and yeah wolves and scars are more chill with people; not like the sallies, but theres a lot more mutual respect going on with them
and the human warriors they might fight with
unreal cosmos
the Salamander benevolence ties back to an inclination for self-sacrifice that in turn is linked to their heightened endurance (they can take punishment others can't and historically used that as an excuse to throw themselves into danger)
thin ibex
wolves are... conditionally chill, ime, they respect human warriors and humans who've got guts. They don't really care about the average person in a personal way though
if you've fought beside them with bravery, they like you
if youre just some person, they probably dont give that much of a shit about you
unreal cosmos
Raven Guard are noteworthy because they're generally opposed to humans being oppressed (which... idk how exactly they reconcile that with the Imperium as a whole) but they're also a little more coldly pragmatic than Salamanders.
pulsar cairn
so if ya good at fightin wolfs will like u a bit more?
unreal cosmos
Yeah, they're like, pretty standard "honorable barbarian" types.
upper canopy
Corvus Corax is known as the agile primarch because of the mental gymnastics he did to not turn traitor
upper canopy
Only sometimes
pulsar cairn
Horus did fuck him over
jaunty dawn
one of the imperial armour books was raven guard + elysians vs orks
upper canopy
Horus did fuck him over
Wouldn't have fucked him over if he went traitor tbqh
pulsar cairn
uuuh that was before they came out as traitors tho
upper canopy
Skully the joke is that Corvus Corax was a slave liberator who has never gotten any characterization on why he immediately signed up with the biggest slaver of all time
And stuck with that
pulsar cairn
i know but like...i was talking about why he didn't like Horus
due to a specific moment before the Heresy broke out
it's probably the reason why he didn't manage to bring Corvus to his side
mental birch
I'm torn on this
Do I take a Devilfish
Or 3 kroot hounds
On one hand 3 kroot hounds are so annoying
On the other hand
Devilfish has shenanigans
mental birch
Hmmm fair
Cut the hounds for the fish
I already have 3 pirranhas
Fair cheers for the thoughts
unreal cosmos
danke!
pine matrix
Do you folks use gloves when spray painting your models?
naive abyss
When I actually have the luxury or hobby I plan to use gloves the whole time
I'm too ocd to handle glue or paint all over my hands
unreal cosmos
yeah gloves are helpful
pastel rampart
My hands are covered in 2 decades worth of super glue.
naive abyss
Hell just seeing people in vids with that makes me a bit anxious
pastel rampart
I can dip it in a deep frier without harm.
unreal cosmos
my hands get kinda gluey sometimes yeah
naive abyss
And I have enough bullshit going on with my hands without layering glue and paint on them lol
pine matrix
I don't mind glueing with bare hands but I don't want to get paint all over them, I gotta get some disposable gloves
naive abyss
For sure
To be clear not judging others
This is very much a me thing and I'm aware of that lol
pine matrix
No worries! It didn't come across that way to me 😊
naive abyss
Mm Mm. Just figured I'd clarify just in case lol
pulsar cairn
i want a kroot friend
i'll name him cockatoo
the folks here are a doing a painting workshop
they got some minis you can try to paint
naive abyss
Nice
Is it a warhammer store? Cuz they have that allot at the few of those I've visited
thin ibex
I think in part the Raven Guard also vibe more with normal humans because over their history and thanks to istvaan they developed tactics and strategies that led them to more closely work with their human comrades in joint operations; with some raven guard successors outright taking command of overall combined arms/soup forces
both because of their reduced numbers and then because, in a pragmatic way, putting human lives on the line to allow you to utilize the astartes to greatest effect proved to be effective
floral herald
They also did that stuff before istvaan when there were a lot of them
thin ibex
oh yo? did not realize
i knew that raven guard/raven guard successors and Alpha Legion both rep hard into tandem operations with humans, moreso than other legions/chapters
but id thought that hh raven guard were a bit more standard pre-istvaan
floral herald
They were always pretty close cause Corax did a bunch of resistance movement stuff before even being found by the emperor
And then a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify why he shouldn’t take his legion and run
thin ibex
ahh ok
didn't the big e also make him nuke something that didn't need to be nuked
and he always resented that?
pulsar cairn
Is it a warhammer store? Cuz they have that allot at the few of those I've visit...
not really! just some guys from the community c:
jovial berry
That’s a big dog
thin ibex
i would give it a hug
jaunty dawn
so excited for belthanos
naive abyss
Btw penny you see those wild riders I posted?
naive abyss
For sure
I'm glad I remembered right lol
Was worried I'd misremembered cuz it was late lol
past sphinx
idk what it is but Eschers are the first models ive ever worked on that are just painful to paint
idk what it is
naive abyss
Lots of details?
past sphinx
none more than any other gang, but theres layers to gear, especially the vests and they all have chaps on
jaunty dawn
I found them quite similar to dark elves or repentia
lots of layers, relatively small areas
soft willow
If you apply your paint thickly enough, that problem will solve itself.
thin ibex
lol
naive abyss
I should boot verm to give necro a go
thin ibex
they're good!
on lower difficulties the skellies are a little bit uh... they can handle most things entirely without your help lol
on high difficulties its more like you're working in tandem in a number of ways
tired cairn
Seems like a bad idea to be posting about that first topic
thin ibex
arbites gonna have to catch ya first
floral herald
https://vxtwitter.com/K_Iragana_A/status/1717468453974733225
lmfao
floral herald
Seems like a bad idea to be posting about that first topic
Hey you might be denouncing it
upper canopy
Gullieman is starting discourse
floral herald
you know, of all the primarchs he might be the most likely to be Online
wait no
Perturabo exists nvm
Second most though!
storm schooner
Leman Russ making tweets but they're one word each all caps, each sentace is a thread
upper canopy
Gullieman is twitter online Perty is a toxic doomer on whatever spinoff 4chan board he can get on
storm schooner
but if you ask him about he says that it's a part of a genius scheme
lofty warren
Guilliman is a resistance lib with depression
thin ibex
Cruze is a unapologetic troll
Vulkan doesn't really know all the modern slang, but generally only posts inspirational, aspirational, or wholesome things
Does not know what a meme is
upper canopy
Vulkan responds to animal videos as if the animal itself posted them
thin ibex
I feel like Perty "absolutely destroys" people in online "debates" that sometimes only he knows he was participating in
upper canopy
"Daisy. You are a magnificent grox, and should not hide yourself behind a stump"
thin ibex
Curze just laughing maniacally while authoring click bait articles
floral herald
This is sort of related but I had a shower thought last night
pine matrix
Corax just replies to shitheads with their IP address and their house number
floral herald
That I'm pretty sure the Krieg regiments probably party the hardest
thin ibex
Sanguinius runs a food blog
pine matrix
I thought Krieg don't party because of their "penance"?
thin ibex
I disagree, valhallans party hardest. You just can't tell because it still looks like they're huddled around fires
But they're absolutely smashed
floral herald
Like you take a bunch of Extremely Repressed Young People and put them in the average shore leave for an imperial guard regiment with the first access they've had to booze without enough methanol to kill you in it
pine matrix
Ya know what, I do like that. Makes me think of Amish people going on Rumspringer
Krieg have time to party because all their weapons are immaculate and their barracks are spotless
storm schooner
Can't remember their name but one of the regiments is like nobles
I imagine they'd have straight up balls and shit
pine matrix
I'm imagining a veteran Krieger having to explain to newly shipped out regiments what "leave" is
tepid stratus
Vostroyan firstborn
pulsar cairn
beeg hat fellows
tepid stratus
I imagine catachans throw great tailgaters
thin ibex
I wonder if also one cannot tell the difference between a Catachan party and fighting for your life
Gotta drink the "devils blood" is actually catachan devils venom
pulsar cairn
what's a tailgater
pine matrix
"You don't have to go off base if you don't want to, soldiers, but the CO might be insulted if you don't"
tepid stratus
what's a tailgater
Partying out of the back of a truck
pine matrix
I wonder if also one cannot tell the difference between a Catachan party and fig...
It's like that scene in the deer hunter except even the guys playing russian roulette are having fun
pulsar cairn
Partying out of the back of a truck
oh
thin ibex
Catachan date is killing chitnous jungle monsters with a knife so long other guardsmen call it a sword
It's not romantic if there's no risk of dying horrifically
thin ibex
Like they do about killing any other monster I'd guess, they love the smell of promethium in the morning
tepid stratus
Catachan date is killing chitnous jungle monsters with a knife so long other gua...
"I think them vostroyans call this a 'lobster dinner'. Look I even traded some cigs for some real butter from sarg! Ain't I a catch!" Proceeds to drink horrendous mixture of devil venom and ork blood
thin ibex
I do feel like catachans walk full faced into every macho soldier stereotype
pine matrix
World of Rambos without the angst and ptsd
floral herald
Catachans seem like the kind of people who'd do the original shotgunning
pulsar cairn
that makes me think of an orky trazyn the infinite
floral herald
idk their life is so intense I think they're actually relax
thin ibex
Mostly I love the idea of taking commando inspo for the deliciously terrible one liner puns
floral herald
https://youtu.be/bIP7tVbZWxI
Average catachan when not fighting
pulsar cairn
spice flicker
I was playing TWW3 yesterday and I have to say I know there is a lot of complaints people have about it but I do hope that CA eventually give us Thanquol and Nagash as legendary lords.
thin ibex
tbh, i think there are things worth complaining about but i also think that warhammer people complain real hard about almost anything. (i do think the pricing complaint is valid for the recent DLC)
games still good tho
spice flicker
I agree
Hell I would have loved to play the Changeling but for the price of that DLC and not much interest in the other lords have stopped me from getting the most recent one.
thin ibex
I want the Cathay lord cause I'm a fan of em but yeah haven't had the cash
naive abyss
I was playing TWW3 yesterday and I have to say I know there is a lot of complain...
thanquol i agree. nagash i dont.
if only due to like everything going on with nagash
like nagash being an option is like making sigmar an option sorta lol
i dont want more chorf lords though ngl
i know adding shartor would make almost no sense but i want it anyways lol
also thers a few fun options for vamp lords still imo
i have also randomly remembered that i desperately want a new valkia model
cuz shes such a cool concept ngl
spice flicker
I would like to thanquol as a Legendary Lord and maybe at the same time do a rework of gotrek/felix where they're Legendary Heroes who stay instead of temporary Legendary Lords
Of course the final or next to final story mission for thanquol will have to involve Gotrek and Felix and maybe accidentally summoning skarband.
naive abyss
theres all kinds of fun obscure characters in fantasy ngl lol
theres actually a really cool mod with various cool ideas
based on this lil blurb it seems
give us lady dorf lord tbh
naive abyss
https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Katerina_de_Hansebourg
also im enamored with the idea of a human led ogres factions
the masque would also be a good add for slaanesh
and probably one of my fave daemon slaanesh characters
you know the maque may be one of those rare cases wher ei prefer the old model
i sorta prefer the like verison with hair
adds a sorta like grounding that makes the weird bits stand out more
oh theres an option for hair it seems
ok yeah that looks way better lol
weird its like gw forgot to put the hair on lol
thin ibex
old model has a better pose imo
naive abyss
i appreciate the new pose
gw just too k a picture of it at the worst angle
cuz its her mid twirl
naive abyss
first is new
naive abyss
overall its a better model
i just sorta like the old ones head better
but the fact it actually has like a hair twirling in motioning helps the new one allot
just im puzzled at gw not having that in their store photos
like the hair also just helps sell the motion
thin ibex
yeah thats what i like most about is that it atually feels like they're in motion
naive abyss
no yeah its just i didnt realize that hair was there
cuz its not on the shop pics
which is extra bizarre cuz the warham commuinity pics have it
thin ibex
oh huh, could a solitaire match the masque in a high stakes ballroom dance at less risk because slaanesh refuses to acknowledge the masque?
thin ibex
just a scenario that felt charming in my mind
naive abyss
oh man this has sold me way more on this model
cuz her face is easier ot see and like you can see she has like a fun undercut with long hair
which i can vibe with
huh
the paint job here is also differen than the shop one
weird
as a comparison
the one on shop has somewhat better painting in some places but is very like dull colored
the warcomm one overall i feel is the better take which ngl has allot to do with actually being assembled correctly lol
but yeah the masque is cool
thin ibex
huh
that i a weird set of differences
for like the ship image n stuff
looks like maybe the warcom one is just better lightning and framing?
naive abyss
idk
its even assembled differently
the masks re in different positions
and like the model does come with the hiar bit
i can see it in the sprue shots lol
thin ibex
oh yeah no ur right, it looks like two different builds
the warcom is the better one imo, better put together but also better lit in the shot
naive abyss
and like whoever did the shop one just left a piece off lol
a piece that imo dramatically improves it imo
upper canopy
oh huh, could a solitaire match the masque in a high stakes ballroom dance at le...
This literally happened
upper canopy
Yeah a Solitaire matched the Masque in dance for like a week straight until the Masque made a misstep
at which point the Masque flipped her shit and got dispelled
upper canopy
Solitaire went like
Up right shoot shoot
Up right shoot shoot
Up up right up up up right
uneven ember
Nice!
naive abyss
vibe
dense sedge
god I wish genestealer cult were more affordable
rocky shale
Arent they not that bad since the combat patrol is so good?
dense sedge
They aren’t the worst but if you want more strats then neophyte spam it’s very pricy, especially with point reductions
thin ibex
The lord of fenris and the wolves
Ironically I think the list might actually have legs. Obviously it's hyper aggressive so good safe play will likely counter it but
Every thunder wolf squad getting +1 damage on charge with adv+charge
And every squad getting lethal hits
And once per battle army wide reroll hits
With some choice extra ap and +1 to wound on storm speeders
Seems like they could be nasty
tepid stratus
Fulgrim transfigured goes on preorder... $335CAD... Why are we here? Just to suffer?
tepid stratus
What'd you use for snow?
Vallejo snow texture
naive abyss
Fulgrim transfigured goes on preorder... $335CAD... Why are we here? Just to suf...
It's FW and a big likely popular model lol thusly capitalism
tepid stratus
Aaaaand this is why recasters go brrrr
naive abyss
Lol yeah
tepid stratus
Fucking wild that they keep insisting on pricing out the average player.
naive abyss
Well FW overall is considered boutique to them
pastel rampart
With how someone managed to make an Angron STL before the model came out I'm sure someone is on the case.
past sphinx
There was like 4 dorns and a dorn proxy before it launched
Same with the sentinals and the field guns
naive abyss
Ngl i wish the tree person was less aggressively modeled on cuz it'd make a fun Orion proxy
I'm a fan of like spear and horn look
pastel rampart
Ngl i wish the tree person was less aggressively modeled on cuz it'd make a fun ...
The feet are the only thing where it'd need to either be sculpted or find like, treeman bitz somewhere.
Still a bit silly.
naive abyss
Yeah. It's definitely the feet that are the issue lol
dense sedge
AoS has a lot of cool stuff
Kinda wonder if I should’ve started an AoS army rather than 40k gsc
soft willow
AoS doesn't have cool rock drills.
Or a big car with a rock drill.
Or mining lasers.
naive abyss
pulsar cairn
tell me silly AoS facts
naive abyss
Gotrek defeated a god beast by yelling at it
pulsar cairn
is Gotrek an ork?
naive abyss
Gotrek is a dwarf lol
Him and felix are arguably some of the most well known named characters at least on the fantasy side of things lol
thin ibex
gotrek out there just trying to die and finding out that almost nothing can put him down for good
he's come pretty close a few times, but alas
naive abyss
I love the aos audio drama
Like after the god beast wusses out he just sounds so dejected lol
I still love the mental image of him showing up in the lumineth realm
And teclis just having to very carefully explain to them all to not instigate the dwarf lol
pine matrix
Gotrek would probably shake him down to try and learn where Felix is
naive abyss
That reminds me of the joke that nagash is actively hiding from gotrek lol
tepid stratus
Or mining lasers.
But we do have the drill cannon
soft willow
But we do have the drill cannon
How many arms does the person operating the drill cannon have?
floral herald
A normal amount
past sphinx
That reminds me of the joke that nagash is actively hiding from gotrek lol
If the literal embodiment of death can't kill him what can
naive abyss
tepid stratus
How many arms does the person operating the drill cannon have?
Do we count the robotic arms?
soft willow
Begrudgingly.
thin ibex
grudge?
tepid stratus
Then 4
soft willow
A pretty good number of arms, can't complain.
long void
How is Gotrek handling being in AoS?
thin ibex
as he handles everything id imagine; stoically, grimly, and with a fair amount of blood spilled
and the willingness to piss off and throw hands with literally anything living or dead
naive abyss
How is Gotrek handling being in AoS?
Marginally angrier
And talking shit to basically everyone
Like he just actively mocks fyreslayers lol
thin ibex
ive decided i want to make a space wolves list with all of the new detachments lol
past sphinx
Marginally angrier
Man lost his only friend and had a few thousand years of demon killing to work it out and did alright
past sphinx
We need more evil Akira slides
There's a pretty damn good one in Nope of all places
spice flicker
https://vxtwitter.com/BrennecheCasper/status/1717879866144493933
Kinda wish they would have kept the ducks as is instead of cherubs.
desert jay
You don’t like the flesh homunculi tinged with religious imagery?
past sphinx
That was the thing thay really made my players grock warhammer, first encountering cherubs in dark heresy
thin ibex
having a flying skeleton baby drone made from a lobotomized person tell you that you are the good guy is certainly a way to solidify the imperium
desert jay
The cherubs actually aren’t servitors, they’re 100% vat grown and purpose built
thin ibex
oh yo? color me corrected
desert jay
Yeah they’re even weirder than average for imperium stuff
spice flicker
Still need to go back and work on my rogue trader campaign more...
desert jay
Presumably someone found a cloning machine STC or something and this is what they decided to use it for
spice flicker
Some say krieg has the same thing
upper canopy
The cherubs actually aren’t servitors, they’re 100% vat grown and purpose built
Most Servitors are also done that way, but they're still servitors
spice flicker
Servitors are also what some ad mech members do to criminals no?
lofty warren
Coward imperium, not doubling down on institutionalized baby-murder
desert jay
Really? I thought they were usually either a form of capital punishment or a way of recycling the dead into something other than corpse starch
upper canopy
They are!
Corpses just come from everywhere
And sometimes you don't have enough
so you just clone a bunch of meat sacks
floral herald
Servitors are also what some ad mech members do to criminals no?
That is a thing but the demand for servitors outstrips the number of convenient criminals
desert jay
Ah right
floral herald
Similarly the admech/imperium also use vat grown bodies for mass culturing of geneseed
desert jay
I do remember that certain applications of servo skull are actually a post-mortem status thing
thin ibex
from the lexicanum page:
A Cherub was essentially a type of servitor which was shaped into small baby sized angelic being with wings. They were noted for their more independent thinking and were created through vats where they were breathed life by the tech-priests. This was a noted difficult task as various components were required to create such a being which included making a viable skeletal structure, circulatory system, internal organs and more importantly that spark that makes them intelligent. Though the more complex task was the creation of a nervous system for the resultant creature.[6]
These servitors have the most complex neural systems due to the complex mannerisms displayed by the Cherubim. The ranks of the Cherubim were not mass produced but tailor made for their masters make each unique.[6]
Sometimes cherubs are also grown in a vat from purely biological components. The technology used in this process is unknown.
spice flicker
Well then
desert jay
Some of those skulls were high-ranking officials and such in life!
upper canopy
Krieg having vats of clone soldiers to meet their quotas is less a "cloning isn't a thing in the Imperium" but more "Admech definitely didn't sign off on this"
thin ibex
the fact that the space marine librarian has/had a cherub with a tiny useless sword and shield is endlessly amusing to me
floral herald
I was poking through the old Epic book and something I thought was neat is how it included chains of command
past sphinx
Coward imperium, not doubling down on institutionalized baby-murder
They do have industrial sized baby furnaces so maybe not tripling down on the baby murdwe
upper canopy
I know what this means but also
the idea that the actual tank vehicle outranks you is very funny
floral herald
I think its interesting how often land speeders outranked other units actually
floral herald
past sphinx
That land raider has been around 3 thousand years and is smarter than most imperial citizens let's give it a chance
floral herald
the white scars do not respect Arkhan Land's finest low altitude flying machine
tired cairn
Land Speeders outranking other units seems very weird
naive abyss
OH I FORGOT
You forgor
tired cairn
Does chain of command do things in game?
naive abyss
But yeah gotrek is great
thin ibex
oh so white scars no longer see terminator armor as a punishment in the modern day?
tired cairn
Oh it says it directly above the list
pulsar cairn
Felix died right? he's just by himself now?
floral herald
oh so white scars no longer see terminator armor as a punishment in the modern d...
This is an OLD book
tired cairn
They saw it as punishment? Is it because they can't ride a bike?
lofty warren
Which epic is it?
naive abyss
Felix died right? he's just by himself now?
Unclear lol
lofty warren
oh so white scars no longer see terminator armor as a punishment in the modern d...
Also thats dreadnauts
floral herald
3rd ed
thin ibex
presumably felix died as pretty much almost everyone did in the end times, the question is what happened to him after; as death was generally not the end
pulsar cairn
Unclear lol
so Gotrek never talks about him?
floral herald
Though this is collected compedium and probably includes stuff from Epic Armageddon
thin ibex
Gotrek isn't exactly verbose
I imagine Gotrek is perfectly comfortable not speaking at all for extended periods if the circumstances suit
naive abyss
so Gotrek never talks about him? <:vicksyLUL:1059517071672746005>
He does just the ultimate fate of felix is unknown to him
lofty warren
Before that Epic was split into Space Marine and Titan Legions
I thought space marine came before epic
thin ibex
Felix was the talker really, between the two of them
pulsar cairn
He does just the ultimate fate of felix is unknown to him
oh i see
floral herald
I thought space marine came before epic
It did yeah, did I phrase that badly?
lofty warren
It did yeah, did I phrase that badly?
No i cant read
pulsar cairn
what's their first book?
floral herald
I mean that there were 2 editions each of Titan Legion and Space Marine before they unified into Epic in 1997
floral herald
oh haha
lofty warren
I am an absolute illiterate
lofty warren
I mean that there were 2 editions each of Titan Legion and Space Marine before t...
I love how stupid the history of epic is
Im absolutely certain that legions imperialis is just gonna become epic again
floral herald
yeah
Soon we're gonna get Flotilla Imperialis the HH themed Battlefleet Gothic successor just watch
lofty warren
Soon we're gonna get Flotilla Imperialis the HH themed Battlefleet Gothic succes...
Genuinely shocked they havent even teased a new bfg game
People love bfg
thin ibex
they should release rules for a titan game where people have to cosplay their titans
use it to sell plastic printed suits of armor
lofty warren
Something ive wanted to do for ages is make some giant foam spaceships and play a massive game of bfg
As its pretty much infinitely scalable
thin ibex
release posable titan action figures with the spring loaded weapons that launch a laser bolt of some kind
thin ibex
scale the game so that you need a football field to play
naive abyss
I'd love new bfg in plastic
pulsar cairn
pulsar cairn
FRIENDS
i got myself an audiodrama to listen to!
it's called the way out
warhammer horror
thin ibex
Huh so wolf guard and wolf guard terminators don't work with the 1st company Detachment
floral herald
oh huh
I guess so
I guess that makes an inkling of sense since the space wolves don't really do a first company like a codex chapter
floral herald
Most of the strategems call out specific units
floral herald
yeah it also excludes DW knights and such
jaunty dawn
the fact they didn't just give them all a veteran keyword is annoying yeah
much prefer how the tyranid codex came out
especially stuff like assimilation swarm which just add interesting new dynamics and not just like selective buffs
thin ibex
I was mid "Logans company" list and was like "waitaminute
brittle salmon
yeah terminators work
Actually yeah based on this, that rule does work with all Terminators, since they all have the Terminator keyword
Knights included
brittle salmon
nope lol
thin ibex
Drats
Gotta run all wolf termies then
It is fun that I can bring combi bolter wolf guard
floral herald
Yeah I think Deathwingmakes it out ok as well
unreal cosmos
https://tortuga-gamestable.top/image/cache/catalog/1. Tyrant War/0. G Legions 40%2B/TRW100/TRW100-0-1300x1300.jpg oooh I think these could be great for my Heresy Ultras if I shave off the cruxes, kind of frustrated that they used them for a kit that's otherwise drawing from some older aesthetics and Tortuga does a lot of Heresy stuff
pulsar cairn
which one of the armor models is that?
thin ibex
a beefy crunchy all wolfguard terminator list
lets me bring njall too
ulric might have to lead non-wolfguard units tho
naive abyss
i think my current fave wolf named character for 40k is the just giant ass marine dude with the hammer and shield
i always forget his name but i vibe with him
arjac
thats his name
thin ibex
yep, arjac rockfist, the kings champion
thin ibex
a dedicated duelist who does NOT use a sword or rapier
he's the OG Saga of the Bear guy
thin ibex
his job for the wolves is a lot like sigismunds back in the day, in that he finds and kills the enemy's champions in the name of the chapter
just an angry ball of 30 terminators
and bjorn
i feel like its a very inflexible list, but incredibly tough across the board
effectively just "walk and shoot. Charge anything in range"
naive abyss
hmm i should think up some fluff for my ostermark dealing with my vamp counts
maybe some sorta like ragtag grab bag of ostermakr troops led by a lady warrior priest/nun
past sphinx
i still stand with the concept of wolf scouts in terminator plate
because if your going to go to all the trouble of trouncing around in the woods to find the enemy you might as well kill em when you do
thin ibex
yeah but a wolf scout dont need the termie plate to do that
thats what the knife and silenced bolt pistol is for
man what does the silencer even do
its a mini rocket
jaunty dawn
I think the thing is that really what defines a wolf scout rather than any other swolf of that level is the fact that they wear carapace
thin ibex
yeah they do it for a reason
they epitomize one of my favorite elements of sw
except i prefer pack hunters vibes
more
honestly i wonder how veteran wolf scouts would feel about phobos stealth armor
reivers really fit the vibe to me
for a wolf scout
even though reivers are bad
past sphinx
seething hatred mixed with absolute lust
heres hoping for a wolf scouts upgrade for the new scouts
thin ibex
they're the coldest mf's in the whole chapter
jaunty dawn
need a veteran phobos unit in general tbh!
past sphinx
need some scrungly ass veterans
thin ibex
Me vibing with the more feral and lean pack hunters vibe is why I like the wolspears
pulsar cairn
the way out is a real good audio drama
warhammer has some really good horror potential
there's so much action that i often forget how scary it actually is
even if you are like a guard veteran there are things in the 40k galaxy that could probably scary you
runic swallow
Tbh half of being a guard vet is knowing damn well that there are terrifying things out there
pulsar cairn
fair 
past sphinx
the trick is shooting them to death before they get really scary
naive abyss
or get closer lol
naive abyss
thin ibex
Hmm I've got an anvil siege force, ironstorm, and firestorm Detachment left to make for the sw
It's too bad egil ironwolf is dead, well have to make up a new thane in his stead
Err jarl
brittle salmon
I think I've figured out why the SM Anvil Siege Force isn't as good as it reads
There just aren't that many high tier Marine units that want to plant their feet and shoot all the time
A Whirlwind is an expensive artillery piece, your only one, and its just okay
You have the Balistus, you have Heavy Intercessors, you have Devastators and Desolators, Centurion Devastators too
But other than that, so many units want you to move and maneouvere
thin ibex
It's finding the ones who already have heavy
brittle salmon
I mean, even gaining Heavy is really good
mental birch
ive decided i want to make a space wolves list with all of the new detachments l...
Stormtalon is secretly a space wolves detachment
Ah oops
thin ibex
All good, you see my take on the Thunderwolf horde?
Not as competitive but still seemed fun
unreal cosmos
oh?
upper canopy
||Cawl has a AI Clone of Gullieman locked in a computer that he asks questions before talking to actual Gullieman.
And he tried to make his own primarch called the Alpha Primus||
The man cannot be stopped from spitting in the face of his religion at every turn
plucky token
blasphemy is basically his hobby
soft willow
Apparently one of the newer books is Cawl and Fabius Bile having a big-brain off.
upper canopy
Homie
sour sequoia
||Cawl has a AI Clone of Gullieman locked in a computer that he asks questions b...
||This is like the third dude to accidentally make a primarch clone and keep it in a closet though innit||
upper canopy
||This is like the third dude to accidentally make a primarch clone and keep it ...
||It's not in a closet he has him follow him around as a body guard as this psychic half-primarch that lives in constant pain||
unreal cosmos
loool that's pretty good
past sphinx
The "fuck everybody over there" cannon
sour sequoia
||It's not in a closet he has him follow him around as a body guard as this psyc...
This is so much funnier than I expected thank you
uneven ember
The "fuck everybody over there" cannon
haaaah, nice
I like the color scheme
pulsar cairn
btw, how did Erebus's fight end with Kharn? did Kharn just leave him there or did he make an escape?
unreal cosmos
I think he teleported out
past sphinx
You'd think that but we forget just how often erberus was willing to throw the fuck down
Yhe man is and was willing to fight for his ideals and his legion even if there was no way he didn't know he would get stomped
pulsar cairn
sure but in this instance it was more him provoking Kharn and thinking too highly of himself he saw himself as "the hand of destiny"
he killed argel tal cause of something to do with Angron, right?
past sphinx
Oh yeah his ideals where fucking stupid can't forget that
thin ibex
Man making an anvil siege force for wolves was hard to make feel wolfy
Ack
Nic architect of War from the librarian and replace the devastators with long Fangs
thin ibex
pulsar cairn
hehe
thin ibex
its never a good day to be a normal imperial soldier on the fields of the Empire
and its especially shitty on gehemmisnacht
pulsar cairn
unless maybe if you're a kriegsman
but that's like..."good" in a twisted way
oh wait we not talking about the imperium ignore me
naive abyss
i find it amusing cuz everytime i see this art i think its a butch lady with black lipstick on lol
also this new art of neave is great
unreal cosmos
i find it amusing cuz everytime i see this art i think its a butch lady with bla...
can't serve the emperor if you're not serving send tweet
pulsar cairn
grot racing game
naive abyss
can't serve the emperor if you're not serving send tweet
im not sure what that means ngl lol
but yeah like im not sure what the lips are suppose to have going on it like literally looks like black lipstick lol
unreal cosmos
I meant to make a joke about them looking stylish but maybe overcomplicated things by trying to add a layer of irony
naive abyss
lol fair
also to be clear its not like a complaint perse
i just know its likely not what my brain keeps seeing so im curious what the actual intent is lol
unreal cosmos
I think it's just supposed to look kinda goth and sinister
ebon forge
Oh cool the firstborn is a card by itself
They tried to make the helmed and armor look more rustic too
ebon forge
NICE
upper canopy
Oh I didn't think there'd be displates of warhammer
I might get one for my new apartment
junior robin
realy tempted to get this mega/mecha dread proxy from ramshackle games, basically priced like the body of the FW one so you get the arms for free.
thin ibex
I wonder if sanguinius could have handled horus had he not also fought ka banda and angron pretty much the same day
ebon forge
I say, yeah, probably?
Maybe he would die in teh battle but he would take baldman with him
pastel rampart
He would've at least done more damage, maybe tired Horus out enough to give Emps a bigger advantage.
junior robin
could any of the loyalist primarchs defeat Horus in a 1 vs 1? 🤔
pastel rampart
Depends on if Horus is hopped up on chaos juice or not.
junior robin
in this scenario he is goated by the chaos sauce
ebon forge
could any of the loyalist primarchs defeat Horus in a 1 vs 1? 🤔
Lion, easily
Or Russ, if you believe hte theory he is a Primarch killer
pastel rampart
Then probably not many. Sangy if he's rested up, maybe Khan if he gets the drop on him, Lion probably.
Russ is a possibility, especially if he has the spear.
I only put Khan in maybe on account of us knowing jack fuck-all about his combat abilities. He's a big unknown so he's either the deadliest duelist out of the bunch or just up there with Fulgrim.
Khan sure wouldn't fight fair though, neither would Lion.
ebon forge
Also, Big E god THAT damaged because he was holding back, thinking some good of horus might come forth and stop this.
ebon forge
Khan sure wouldn't fight fair though, neither would Lion.
You talk like Russ fights fair
pastel rampart
Russ takes a certain joy in the fight, whereas the other two don't fuck around.
junior robin
Khan just uses his primarch-sized horse to kick in horus skull
thin ibex
as a note, Russ DID win in their fight of destiny but couldn't kill horus iirc
pastel rampart
Admittedly I think if it's fighting juiced-up Horus no one is fighting fair.
thin ibex
while hopped up on like fenrisian destiny juice
ebon forge
that's sum dangerous juice
thin ibex
he also had the spear of the emperor that he kinda focused the juice into
but ultimately like i mentioned, did not kill em and let em go on to terra
ebon forge
why not tho
ebon forge
damn
thin ibex
and then got cut up himself
ebon forge
Russ you fucking imbecil
But breaking Magnus spine?
Nha bro, that was just too funny /j
Aside from Ferrus Manus, primarch of the Ferrus manus, that he, himself have two ferrus manus.
I think Magnus is the primarch with teh most Ls, right?
naive abyss
why not tho
i mean the reason is ultimately we know how it has to end lol
like the HH books are a series that ultimately have to contort and twist to an already established ending
ebon forge
I MEAN YES
"Because in lore the Big E is the one that kills him"
But I mean, in lore reason, not a meta reason
thin ibex
i think lion handles non chaos horus in a duel no problema, but would probably need to tap into his own hijinx to beat juiced horus
ebon forge
If you want me to be pedantic, I could always just ask "What reason teh authors gave him to not kill Horus aside from the lore saying it was big e"
thin ibex
well not no problem at all, i think horus is the kind of character who has a chance against any other primarch, but isn't better than what they're best at
ebon forge
True, before his corruption he kinda was the """best""" primarch, right?
naive abyss
he was the most "successful" and well regarded
thin ibex
general primarch consensus is that the best all rounders and runners up for the warmaster position were the Lion, Sanguinius, and Horus I think
ebon forge
Is kinda funny how, despite that, the ultramarines and bobby G is the 'face' of the Space Marines nowadays
Tho, i would argue Bobby G is the best primarch the Imperium need right now.
because they need better management inthis bullshit institution
naive abyss
it helps theyre the most generic and have the culture touchstone that appeals to the most people lol
junior robin
also being one of them who died/vanished last probably helps
floral herald
He was one of the easier ones cause they knew where he was
Though honestly, as an ultramarines fan I kind of resent them being the face of things so much
Because it’s kind of made them feel more generic
Like we see fewer of their own weird things
Like the axes of ultramar or TWVs
ebon forge
I mean, yeah
but honestly I think is good they are the 'face', the Blood Ravens lore were too forgotten when they where te face
Like
In one of the 3 draw of war games they touched on the red rage or the vampiric aspects
But as a Salamander fan don't worry I would HAPPILY take the mantle of being the face from you
floral herald
Tbf the Blood Ravens were just made up for Dawn Of War afaik
naive abyss
they were yes lol
ebon forge
WHAT
naive abyss
are you mixing them up with the blood angels?