First time I've ever seen anyone rank Carrion so high up.
#Pathfinder
frozen hatch
silver geyser
It's fun
limber comet
I like Strange Aeons and Ruins of Azlant but idk if they're any good
frozen hatch
I've got several (or rather all but a few of the 1e APs).and am thinking of downsizing so I was trying to figure out which ti keep.
trail nova
War for the Crown, Hells Rebels, and Ironfang are some of my favorites.
I am a little ideosyncratic though.
(WftC is probably the AP where "AP 5 suprise villian with a steel chair" is actually pulled off well because how much of it is the PCs being a relatively subtle hammer in a world of conspiracies.
frozen hatch
I know when it comes to political intrigue I actually prefer the 3rd party Zeitgiest campaign by EN World but WftC is also good.
wary yoke
The only one I can attest to is Reign of Winter, and that's for how batshit crazy it gets
rapid wagon
im currently in carrion crown book... 5? converted for 2e
its been a bit weird cause the conversion obviously wasnt like professionally done
but we're still enjoying
wooden orbit
Wonder what sort of economic or regional economic impact this would have with Geb being a food basket
frank crystal
Kholo unarmed Exemplar seems really strong tbh
turbid dagger
Yeah, one or two mechanically loose rules aside it's a really good addition
One of those being victors wreath and what exactly it can end and how, and the other being shadow sheath debatably allowing bombs
limber comet
War of Immortals is overall a pretty good book
frank crystal
Hmmm, actually what if I go for clockwork dynamo unarmed exemplar
limber comet
Sterling dynamo?
surreal basin
That’d be cool
Also might be worth asking your GM if you can apply a weapon ikon to your dynamo rather than an unarmed
clever cobalt
Kholo unarmed Exemplar seems really strong tbh
How so?
frank crystal
unarmed exemplar works with any unarmed, so kholo jaws being one of the best ancestry attacks seems like a really easy way to get a good unarmed attack early
combine that with item bonuses for grappling and wrestler
craggy thunder
I have conditioned myself to only be able to get in character as my Vesk Solarian former soldier by listening to Muse lmao
turbid dagger
So odd Q
What caster do you think is best suited to rolling up on people and casting melee cantrips like Gouging Claw as a go-too when not blowing slots
My thought is druid? Similar HP to a Rogue, and shield block by default
Reactive Strike is a fable told to frighten children so it doesn't seem so bad
upbeat ridge
So odd Q
What caster do you think is best suited to rolling up on people and cas...
probably warpriest
since you can melee cantrip + bonk
silver geyser
So odd Q
What caster do you think is best suited to rolling up on people and cas...
Magus.
thorny berry
warpriest suffers from the lower spell proficiency tho
I'd be inclined to agree with druid but really any d8/medium armor
which I think only additionally includes animist
turbid dagger
Magus.
Not spellstriking
I know about and play Magus and love it
But I like the idea of a melee mage, no sword involved
upbeat ridge
warpriest suffers from the lower spell proficiency tho
yeah but you can bonk better
so youre probably gonna hit one of the two at least?
and if you hit both
its real good
plus the stuff that warpriest got in the remaster
echo briar
What god would grant cleric powers to a worshipper of Razmir just to freak out Razmir?
Because all of his clerics are just illusionists. An actual cleric would be “proof” of his divinity
So either he thinks he actually became a god, or he’s freaking out that someone is empowering his followers, but can’t say anything or he’ll spill the beans.
eager mountain
Complex hazard: rescue pilot before the ship explodes.
dude is that a mancubus ?!
fossil temple
oh shit, that's sick
thorny berry
over the line by eighteen bucks lol
apparently somebody threw like 12k in in the last two minutes
clever cobalt
Nice
rustic cape
Wow, really got a lot right at the end, huh?
limber comet
I might be interested in dragon's demand but the mini style doesnt do much for me admittedly
turbid dagger
Yeah lol, I was sharing that with a groupchat earlier
I bet that last donor had the biggest grin
turbid dagger
Yeah its' def on my list
The mini stuff does not harm my enjoyment at all so I'll be all over it
wary yoke
The idea of the game being a toolbox is really interesting
upbeat ridge
yeah if theyre making it a vitual vtt too then thats really cool
surreal basin
Yeah I’m whatever on the mini aesthetic
I don’t think it was a mistake tho given people also complained about that one game PF2E that looked like a VTT in a similar manner, and making a fully animated CRPG is really hard
Which I’d like to reiterate, it is
Like, quests and dialogue and everything lol
I’ve seen some people imply it’s just a vtt essentially which is silly
clever cobalt
Anyone have any ideas for a Dark Tapestry inspired Mythic Character or Path?
All I got is Godling with a more outer god/great old one vibe to them, as opposed to the more "normal" divine stuff
surreal basin
Yeah that one tracks
Archfiend and Wildspell could also do it tbh with some modification
Archfiend in general is actually really versatile in terms of reflating
Reflavoring
clever cobalt
Mhm
wary yoke
I was under the impression that this is like the Shadowrun Returns game in that people could be making new adventure modules
clever cobalt
I think Divinity did something similar
clever cobalt
But yeah, Eldritch Exemplar with the Godling path
surreal basin
Yeah that’s a good start
clever cobalt
Maybe a Fleshwarp and have them grow more "eldritch" as time goes on
surreal basin
I did that in my ruby phoenix campaign
surreal basin
Had a character who was slowly molting into an eldritch demigod
Funny enough that campaigns party maps like
Hilariously well onto mythic
surreal basin
We had an ascended celestial, a godling, a prophesied monarch, an archfiend, and a warrior of legend
clever cobalt
Nice
surreal basin
I was the godling! There’s now an eldritch demigod of knowledge bumming around
limber comet
Stop molting
rustic cape
I don’t think it was a mistake tho given people also complained about that one g...
Personally I would have preferred lower-end 2D graphics, but YMMV
surreal basin
No yeah I just mean like
On a grand scale I’ve seen some people call the minis thing a mistake
wary yoke
Personally I would have preferred lower-end 2D graphics, but YMMV
I think a 3D engine was necessary for what they wanted to do
rustic cape
Specifically re: using height rules?
I suppose ... I'd rather static or mostly-static models without the visible mini bases, though
warped orbit
they are just kinda in a weird middle ground I feel
the minis would have needed to be a little more animated I think, and it would have helped the vibe they seem to be going for more I feel
make them move and shake a little for stuff, etc
turbid dagger
I was under the impression that this is like the Shadowrun Returns game in that ...
That is something they want to do but that takes a ton of work
They had an AMA
They said they expect 'hacked' mods though (stuff that tinkers with the code in an unintended manner, rather than a mod kit)
rustic cape
Dev tools usable by regular people are a shitload of work
Worse if you’re not using tiles for area design
surreal basin
Yeah it’s really hard
rustic cape
Part of it is that either you build some very limiting dev tools, or you build two sets of dev tools (which doubles the work)
surreal basin
Yeah lol
Or the BG3 approach which is just eventually peace out and just drop the full dev tools lmao
frank crystal
What would be the best mythic path for claiming power from the corpse of a god?
surreal basin
Source of your power isn’t really what mythic path is
It’s what you do with it
Are you becoming a god yourself?
frank crystal
Source of your power isn’t really what mythic path is
Oh
frank crystal
Are you becoming a god yourself?
Not sure yet tbh
limber comet
Yeah, the source is relatively unimportant for what you choose going forward
Might be relevant for roleplay tho
surreal basin
Also it’s usually the kinda thing that’s GM determined since the party usually has the same source of mythic power
frank crystal
This was for an exemplar character admittedly
So this guys gonna have divine power no matter what
rapid wagon
Question about haunts, am I supposed to just tell the players what they need to roll to solve the haunt?
Am doing the It Came From the Vast one shot playtest scenario for starfinder, and || I tried to verbally clue my players in to what they're supposed to try and do about the captain reliving her final moments on the bridge|| but my players just kinda drew their own conclusions, made no relevant checks and left it to try and solve it later
turbid dagger
What I usually do is let people RK to figure out relevant skills, then lead off hazard encounters with 'you should probably RK'
frank crystal
Is there much gravity magic in this game?
echo briar
by my count, there are 5 spells with gravity in the name, 1 with gravitational, and 2 with gravity in the description or effect.
frank crystal
Thanks
fossil temple
Omg minecraft reference in pathfinder <3
frank crystal
Funny block game
frank crystal
Oh shit yah this is in fact just a terraria reference
turbid dagger
It can't move though
Is that not one of the key facets of the terraria boss
frank crystal
I mean I guess so but like
It’s abilities are eyes, mouths and grasping hands
The 3 attacks of the wall of flesh
light gyro
Instantly improve your session by adding the terraria monster roar to your server's soundboard
fossil temple
Divine spells finally are getting hands
heavy fulcrum
there was actually a Flesh Wall spell in PF1, so i suspect they may have just renamed it to align with the other Wall spells
echo briar
There are 17 wall spells. Why do we need so many.
They should just go all in. Make a wall of other walls, which has 5ft chunks that act as other wall spells
heavy fulcrum
walls good
echo briar
Wall of Wahlberg
keen raptor
Mark Wallberg: caster that only uses wall spells
carmine egret
Hey this may be too late to ask but: is there a way to quickly replace a creature's sheet on Foundry? I just realized all the ghouls in my AV module are boring pre-Remaster ghouls.
nvm I can just delete and replace them lol
I figure for convenience I can leave the ||Canker Cultists|| as-is though. Gives some variety.
solar storm
nvm I can just delete and replace them lol
Was gonna say that yeah
limber comet
(In a ghostface voice) who is your favorite iconic
rustic cape
I guess I have to default to Seelah for being Pretty Good in the WotR vidya
craggy thunder
Anyone else remember the alternate class feature that lets Mystic use Solar Manifestations?
nvm found it
limber comet
(In a ghostface voice) who is your favorite iconic
Mine personally is a 3 way tie between Korakai, Mios, and Nahoa
wary yoke
Zadim, mostly because he has a really great little chapter opener in Horror Adventures
rustic cape
Hey folks! I have a free general feat and 2 free ancestry feats, so I thought I'd go into Adopted Ancestry and pick some things up. Anything stand out for a mostly-backline caster?
wary yoke
(Zadim also has one of my favorite backstories amongst the iconics, which actually used the Cult of the Dawnflower to great effect, and the Horror Adventures chapter opener references that)
warped orbit
Hey folks! I have a free general feat and 2 free ancestry feats, so I thought I'...
Elf is always solid
Getting you stuff like Elf Step later
rustic cape
True … oh god if my GM says yes I could take tripkee just for fantastic leaps
Big hops
This is an animist so
Hops good
frank crystal
I really want to describe my Kholo exemplar fights basically on all fours
Or at least starts out the fight rushing on all fours
Also with punches even if mechanically I’ll be using jaws
turbid dagger
(In a ghostface voice) who is your favorite iconic
For me, a tie between warpriest, brawler, and cavalier
Cavalier iconic is a total bastard but he fascinates me
He was a snooty noble knight who never saw real battle until One Fateful Day, upon which.......
He realized he actually liked the horrific melee and bloodshed of war better than the chivalric tales
rapid wagon
i dont know the iconics well enough to have a favorite
craggy thunder
(In a ghostface voice) who is your favorite iconic
2e Magus, Cleric, Ranger are tied
rustic cape
Okay, optimizing leaps
30 foot speed: 15
Powerful Leap: +5
Greater Spry Sinews: +10
Boots of Bounding: +5
Fantastic Leaps: +10
Is there anything I'm missing?
That's 45
sinful gyro
Winglets?
turbid dagger
30 foot speed: 15
Powerful Leap: +5
Greater Spry Sinews: +10
Boots of Bounding: ...
Being a strix or flying awakened animal, and Crane Stance
Also dancing leaf
rustic cape
Aha, that gets us up to 60
Alas, no room in the build to dip into monk for dancing leaf and my stance is spoken for
Even so, this amuses me
rustic cape
Oho, potentially 70 w/winged warrior
turbid dagger
Not strictly speed, but-
Ghoul dedication lets you Leap without triggering reactions
And if you're satiated you can instead high jump or long jump, with stride included, without triggering reactions, still for a single action
rustic cape
I'm thinking of this specifically in the context of optimizing Dancing Invocation's hops, but Ghoul is good, yeah
Not suuuuuure if Swift Leap works with it since it's a bespoke action that includes a leap
But I think it does
rustic cape
Okay, so Animist's Store Time vessel spell lets you use "any animist or apparition reaction you have". Would this include spells and reactions granted by spells?
Because if so it has a high-level application with foresight
rustic cape
You could also potentially use it with embodiment of battle for multiple reactive strikes
rustic cape
Alright, finally got the chance to read nu-Animist in full and it looks great
Tragically lost Overwhelming Energy and Spiritual Guidance
But
Overall it still looks like my favorite class
rustic cape
Animist multiclass also looks like it's by far the best way to get multiclass spellcasting for the divine list if you want it
silver geyser
Alright, gotta cook up a Halloween adventure for my 1e Kingmaker group. They're currently in their capital city, sitting in at level 6.
errant roost
Masquerade festival turns into a murder mystery
silver geyser
Could do that. Wound up making an Unknown Troll that's going to pester one of the NPC kingdom leaders.
limber comet
Does anybody know if there are any good fishing rules for 2e, homebrew or otherwise
solar storm
Gonna play an animist tomorrow and I’m excited
Jank as HELL to implement in Foundry rn
steel blade
yeah i think the one in my game just set up multiple different spell lists for their different apparitions
solar storm
Yeah that's what I'm gonna need to do
I'll also probably need to roll my own apparition focus spells
true delta
Heya. Has anyone got a good picture befitting of Nakta, the Healer? A nonbinary dromaar from Frozen Flame. Black hair and an undercut would be great. But I'm kinda panic-posting before a session.
Okay, I've found some. Disregard this post. Have a nice day.
solar storm
Yeah I needed to put together all my spell stuff manually
I am admittedly halfassing this pretty hard since I just need it to work for 1 session
rustic cape
I am admittedly halfassing this pretty hard since I just need it to work for 1 s...
To be fair, I have also just ... chosen four apparitions and stuck with those
Unless foundry automates it I'll probably continue to do that
(I'm thinking Groves and Gardens, Lurker in the Depths, Steward of Stone and Fire, and Echo of Lost Moments)
Kinda wondering if Monstrous Inclinations would be worth it at 16, Devouring Dark Form is kind of uniquely good as the melee vessel spells go in that you get to make a free strike whenever you sustain it
Darkened Forest Form should really have the same trick, it's weird that it doesn't
I kinda think Embodiment of Battle should as well
I guess really even with Monstrous Inclinations it'll fall behind much too fast
Although I suppose it does get heightened to 9th ...
I dunno
rustic cape
Unrelated: how's Exemplar's non-combat stuff?
echo briar
It gets slightly more skills than normal, and by that I mean literally 1 more trained skill at level 3
rustic cape
Anything else?
echo briar
At high levels, I can cast any divine spell of 8th level or lower
rustic cape
Damn
Strong
I dunno, I'm trying to figure out what to play for an investigation-focused one-shot
Another player got investigator
echo briar
What low level bomb is the closest to a brightburn bomb?
warped orbit
Blight Bomb I guess
doesn't do the chaining bit of the Blightburn though, if that's what you are after
limber comet
Wizards+ is coming...I can feel it
errant roost
the sequel to wizards... 😮
limber comet
Pretty much how every team+ book goes
echo briar
Wizards+ will also come with wizards-, wizards•, and wizards/
errant roost
And the cyberpunk expansions, wizard++ and wizard#
surreal basin
What about Wizards!
wary yoke
Are there any remaster-updated ancestries that have something like light blindness?
clever cobalt
For the best imo
wary yoke
That kinda went out with drow
Funny you mention that, because I'm specifically trying to to recreate drow
Or at least, our setting's version
Which are just underground elves that have an affinity for grafts, alchemy, and other body modification
limber comet
I dunno, I wouldn't really wanna give them full on light blindness
At least without easy-ish workarounds
clever cobalt
Yeah it kinda sucks
limber comet
Working around it narratively is fun! Mechanically...not so much lmfao
surreal basin
Yeah
There’s a curse in an AP that gives someone -1 to visual perception checks in sunlight which is like
The worst I would do
Actually light blindness would be a bad idea for a pc lol
limber comet
I don't think drow ever got to be playable in 2e
There's prrrobably homebrew? But idk
wary yoke
I'm just trying to implement ours as an elf heritage; unfortunately, since Cavern Elves exist, it's difficult not to overshadow them.
rustic cape
Part of the thing is that due to the hand economy, darkvision is often considered quite strong in 2e
clever cobalt
I never make a character without it tbh
errant roost
Oh, like, because you need to carry a light source in a hand
errant roost
"hand economy" is less wild a phrase than I expected at first glance
rustic cape
It's weirdly a pretty pivotal part of 2e
Or I mean weirdly if you're used to 1e I guess
trail nova
It’s also one of the parts emblematic of my issues with it.
rustic cape
Generally it takes an action to change what your hand is doing. This can make it trickier for people who normally have things in hand to do stuff
rustic cape
It's one of those things where if you can get it, *get it*
And yeah I almost always grab it
echo briar
Part of the thing is that due to the hand economy, darkvision is often considere...
I mean, the light cantrip exists.
trail nova
It’s also one of the parts emblematic of my issues with it.
Like I am not convinced that everything below “double slice with a 2-hander” isn’t completely fine with regards to extra arms.
Or with swapping around gear.
echo briar
there are enough ways to not need a hand to see. the main thing with darkvision is stealth, but that only applies if everyone has it.
rustic cape
True, but in any case the game treats it like a fairly big deal as does most of the player base, rightly or wrongly
limber comet
But I like carrying torches around
wooden orbit
I appreciate that the Pathfinder party I'm in is meeting the Goka noble in charge of our detective agency (like handling it I think. My PC, and the secretary are the employees, the other three are the ones that founded the agency I think) while Urakaldora my Talos Athamaru is in the kitchen trying to perfect dishes she was making for breakfast for everyone. "Wait a noble was coming?!"
I CAN'T GIVE A NOBLE A SIMPLE OMURICE DISH!
echo briar
Give them a complex omurice dish. Add any herb
wooden orbit
They went for Bibimbap
Cause apparently bibimbap was one of the cuisines ate in the royal court.
frozen hatch
For those of you whose 1e APs that you'd rank really high are among the less popular ones like Jade Regent, Serpent's Skull, and a few of the others, why do you like them so much?
echo briar
Pliny the elder thought that elephants and dragons were natural enemies, and a fight between them could go either way. What dragon has the fairest fight with the level 7 elephant?
trail nova
Uhh, one that can’t fly.
Or doesn’t have a breath weapon, but the flybys are still likely an issue.
rustic cape
Tanuki thaum tanuki thaum
clever cobalt
It has arrived
wary yoke
I'm going to try to pick up the sketch edition if I can find it in local stores, I'm trying to collect them and have my entire PF2E in the sketch editions
wary yoke
So far I have Player Core, Howl of the Wild, and soon GM Core in sketch covers
light gyro
ha, the animist gets a feat that gives you a big bonus against control spells if you surrender control to one of your spirits. "you can't possess me, I'm possessing me!"
rustic cape
It’s pretty decent
light gyro
yeah, it limits which actions you can take but not by much at all
rustic cape
It’s all stuff you’d probably do anyway
solar storm
Yeah it’s not much of a restriction
I like how it also makes you better at lore stuff for your spirit
light gyro
exemplar's three-action four-target cleave might be super situational but THATS COOL!!!!!
turbid dagger
is it like an extra big Swipe?
It's whirlwind strike basically
Strike up to four peeps in your reach with no MAP
Severing Four Dragonfly Wings
warped orbit
ah okay
so it is just Whirlwind but with less targets
probably still decent
I assume its at a much earlier level?
turbid dagger
I believe so yes
light gyro
6th as opposed to 14th
turbid dagger
Yeah, though I'm sorta of the opinion that it being a Transcend is an upside not a downside
As it lets you loop back to another Ikon and also do your Epithets
light gyro
im picturing the exemplar as a kind of devil may cry style guy swapping into different stylish combos
clever cobalt
Not inaccurate
turbid dagger
That's also why I'm not big on those level 8 feats that are tied to your epithet
The flashy two action pseudo spells
'i could be transcending rn'
limber comet
Apparently Wizards+ will launch this week
echo briar
With golarian having intelligent design, do humans still have tail bones?
Also does natural selection happen on earth, or are they also intellectually designed?
wary yoke
With golarian having intelligent design, do humans still have tail bones?
The gods outsourced design to iterative evolution
silver geyser
Templates you can adjust on the fly are the tools of all artists and designers.
rapid wagon
Any for honor players in here? How would one make
A. The Jiang Jun
The Jiang Jun is a relatively slow but powerful fighter, durable as he is wise. Wielding the heavy Guandao, he specializes in surviving group fights
B. The Tiandi
The Tiandi are loyal protectors to kings, queens, and emperors. They are masters of the dao blade, the weapon of choice for this Royal Guard. The Tiandi take an oath of loyalty to their ruler. It is an oath that binds them to their ruler for life. They are renowned for their courage and dignity in battle.
For A I feel like a polearm fighter with a lot of control feats
For B. Probably a champion focused on being a bodyguard but with an open hand for grapples n such
turbid dagger
Any for honor players in here? How would one make
A. The Jiang Jun
The Jiang Jun...
JJ is a Marshal Fighter with a Guisarme I'd say, Swipe and vicious swing and that one feat that's strike plus RK
Tiandi would be a Spirit Warrior Fighter, Flurry Ranger, or Champ
All the kicks and palm strikes imply Spirit Warrior for me
Tiandi isn't really a grappler, he's a striker
rapid wagon
Oh I hadn't seen spirit warrior nice
thorny berry
imo Tiandi is peacock stance monk
or like gymnast swash or something
dude's got the shmovement
but yeah agree on spirit warrior
JJ might do guardian when that's out
turbid dagger
oooo peafowl stance yeah
turbid dagger
So, what's a fun early game grappler? Might be in a Quest For The Frozen Flame game soon
Obviously something like Animal Barb is probably the best overall but Loop wise it seems kind of
'Grapple, then Strike : ) '
There's no Juice
Also, no free archetype
surreal basin
Oh that’s harder then lol
Might be worth actually normally archetyping into wrestler anyway
thorny berry
yeah I don't know that there's a lot of early juice for grapplers
unless you want to be very cute and do a kholo grapple bite with everstand stance lol
turbid dagger
I could do something fun with a Scizore Of The Crab eventually 🤔
tough barn
Does level 6 count as early game? Monk gets Whirling Throw without archetyping
rustic cape
I'm gonna advocate Rogue
Rogue gets lots of skills and can hit people harder in the grapple
frozen hatch
For those who have Jade Regent or Serpent's Skull as your favorite (or top 5 favorite) adventure paths, why do you rate it so highly?
turbid dagger
Rogue gets lots of skills and can hit people harder in the grapple
Fascinating........
rustic cape
Ask your GM for permission to use Ruffian with unarmed though, it weirdly doesn’t get the same carve out that Thief does
tough barn
Be aware if you're gonna grapple as a rogue: you WILL be targeted by whatever you grapple, and you don't have the nice 10hp/lvl buffer of most martials
turbid dagger
The way I see that is
If they're attacking, they are escaping at MAP
If they're escaping, they are attacking at MAP
rustic cape
For sure. Grapple is quite potent.
wooden orbit
Only a few more days until Triumph of the Tusk
eager mountain
wish I knew where people had been posting starfinder 2e art
warped orbit
WoI is up on Pathbuilder now
rustic cape
Oh shiiiiiiii
rustic cape
Question: normally if you're at Master in a save, you increase successes to critical successes. Does that apply to saves raised to Master with Canny Acumen? It's not specifically mentioned.
rustic cape
Alright, then it's just the number bonus. Danke, thought so but wanted to double check
Tragic that Swift Leap is a ghoul feat
clever cobalt
War of Immortals comes out today officially
Hopefully it's on Pathbuilder and Foundry soon
rustic cape
It's already on Pathbuilder
clever cobalt
Oh shit it is?
rustic cape
Yep
rustic cape
I've been using it
Maybe reload your cache or something? No idea
But I am updating my animist as we speak
clever cobalt
lemme do that
frank crystal
What do y’all think the first exemplar I build should be?
Barrow blade swordsman focused on finding (and murdering) the greatest swordsman in the world
Dual air pistol exemplar planning to bring revolution to every kingdom in Golarion
Kholo unarmed exemplar who came back as a revenant after dying to protect their people
light gyro
those are all bangers but i'd be interested in seeing how good gun exemplar is
frank crystal
I haven’t looked at it much besides giving the air guns the twin trait
But I’m very curious
rustic cape
Folks, I need a third archetype to take a few feats for on my animist (already have Witch and Druid). Any thoughts?
rustic cape
Time Mage aaaaaaaa
craggy thunder
WoI is up on Pathbuilder now
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MUHFUCKIN ANIMIST TIIIIIIIIIME
rustic cape
Animist so good
rustic cape
Question: if you have access to quickened casting from multiple sources, can you take it twice and use it twice per day?
light gyro
iirc you can only select a feat once unless it states otherwise
e.g. Additional Lore having the special rider
rustic cape
Specifically, I'd be taking Quickened Casting with Time Mage, and I'm wondering if at 20th level Cascade Bearer Flexibility would let me use it a second time
light gyro
im sure there's some magic item that'll let you cheat out another cast, but level will be an issue
rustic cape
Okay. I will stick to Overwhelming Energy on Earth's Bile then :D
craggy thunder
can exemplars have multiple weapon ikons?
limber comet
Yeah, at 1st you get one of body, worn, and weapon
wary yoke
You can gain any types you want I think
limber comet
And then you get a feat to gain another ikon, which can be any type you want
wary yoke
Let me check my copy
Yeah, unless it's changed, you can have any three ikons you want, no type limits
craggy thunder
l m a o
wary yoke
The usage states what type of items they can be
wary yoke
If you choose multiple weapon ikons you have to switch between them until level 20
limber comet
It doesn't specify you have to have one of each
warped orbit
weird
limber comet
That definitely opens things up a bit
craggy thunder
catch me out here with an elf exemplar with a gleaming curve blade and a noble branching spear
limber comet
I'm still gonna do one of each because I think it's cool
Oh I was also thinking of an elf exemplar
craggy thunder
Prolly same for my first one
wary yoke
I'm going with one of each because it's the abilities I want for my character, lol
craggy thunder
But that elf build seems like it'd rock
limber comet
Noble Branch, Pelt of the Beast, and Scar of the Survivor
wary yoke
Barrows Edge, Scar of the Survivor, Ten Thousand League Sandals
surreal basin
I think a potential issue you’d run into without all 3 is also that it would limit your feat choice
craggy thunder
gleaming liuyedao, thousand-league sandals, victor's wreath
wary yoke
Yep
limber comet
My other idea was a Hungerseed Tengu with the Titan's Breaker, Skin as Hard as Horn, and the belt one
Their feathers rattle like scales because they're almost metallic
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So
limber comet
Idk I thought it was cool
limber comet
Yes
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Okay cool
limber comet
That goes for any magic item
wary yoke
You also get your Ikon free at level 1
surreal basin
Oh yeah for sure I was just like
wary yoke
Or whenever you get it
limber comet
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Thinking about the scenario of finding a specific magic item
limber comet
I think personally
If I were to gm
Your ikon would absorb the magic item
Not the magic item inhabiting your spark
Especially if an ikon is intrinsically tied to your backstory, it would kinda suck if you had to swap it out for a better sword you found
That's just flavor brain tho
upbeat ridge
https://www.pathfinderinfinite.com/product/500595/Wizards?src=newest_community
they’re adding sacred geometry back in
warped orbit
limber comet
It's in :]
surreal basin
Show it
limber comet
Okay hold on
surreal basin
I must render judgement
limber comet
light gyro
best left forgotten
Ohoho
warped orbit
okay that is pretty harmless mostly
surreal basin
Okay thank god is mostly just in name
upbeat ridge
Why does nothing happen on a failure tho
surreal basin
That’s probably a misprint
upbeat ridge
Yeah
limber comet
Probably
errant roost
I think I'm missing something. Does this do anything? it reads like you spend an action to take an action.
surreal basin
It’s a free action
errant roost
ah!
limber comet
You owe me a coke
upbeat ridge
this is intentional apparently.
AH, false, the spellshape does not accur on a failure
craggy thunder
man the liuyedao is so cool
warped orbit
AH, false, the spellshape does not accur on a failure
that should be added then, because as written nothing happens on a fail
and you just get the effect and can use it again
upbeat ridge
NEVERMIND, critical success should be success and success should be failiure
warped orbit
ah okay, that also makes sense
upbeat ridge
warped orbit
makes it a lot stronger though
upbeat ridge
im asking on the discord
upbeat ridge
makes it a lot stronger though
yeah
warped orbit
since you are pretty likely to succeed
does Wizard get legendary Will?
they don't okay
actually even get master Will only at 17
upbeat ridge
yeah
warped orbit
actually even get master Will only at 17
actually looking at it, Wizard save progression is pretty bad lmao
they get to Expert in all saves at level 9, with Expert Fort
and then they get nothing until 17, where they get Master Will
rustic cape
A lot of casters have bad saves
Animist gets Master Will four levels earlier but is likewise stuck with a pretty poor lineup
warped orbit
yeah I knew casters mostly had bad saves, but actually looking at it is really stark damn
meanwhile Fighter gets Expert in all saves at 3
and a lot of other martials do as well
warped orbit
meanwhile Fighter gets Expert in all saves at 3
and thus arguably has better Will saves than a Wizard until level 17
since they get Bravery
rustic cape
Most martials are rocking an Expert/Master/Legendary lineup
Fighter is below average, it only has the two masters (although it has other defensive stuff
warped orbit
a similar thing I had recently was looking at Champion's Perception scaling
(though a lot of casters also similarly have less great Perception prof, partially offset by some of them using Wisdom KAS)
rustic cape
Animist gets to pretend to have a higher perception for Initiative
Due to Medium’s Awareness
warped orbit
what's it do?
limber comet
warped orbit
huh
that's basically an extra top level spell slot
since you can overcharge the wand without risk
limber comet
Pretty much
warped orbit
that's pretty strong
get the best part of Spell Blending and an extra spell attack bonus sometimes
limber comet
There is also a spellgun thesis
warped orbit
haha
limber comet
This product is pretty damn cool admittedly
There's a school of medicine and what essentially amounts to arcane law school
I love that they leaned into making magical versions of real life studies
surreal basin
that's pretty strong
For what it’s worth the + stuff generally just leans high on the power spectrum by design
warped orbit
Yeah I know
Though I think it's fine mostly
rustic cape
Has Foundry updated yet?
warped orbit
don't think so
wary yoke
Last I played it still doesn't have Player Core 2
rustic cape
Do you mean AoN?
wary yoke
Then I'll have to talk to my GM about updating because we have to kludge any PC2 content together as of yesterday
rustic cape
Foundry had PC2 almost immediately
Foundry and Pathbuilder generally release on the dot
wary yoke
Huh
rustic cape
AoN is weird because it has like ... fuckin' Tian Xia up
But not PC2
So like what's going on there
... or does it?
Am I confused
I'm often confused
wary yoke
I don't think Tian Xia is up, because they still list a lot of stuff that first appeared in Treasure Vault as legacy
rustic cape
Ahhhhh okay
surreal basin
AoN staff said they are confident PC2 is going up at the end of this month
And that they’re gonna get back to the usual schedule very soon after
clever cobalt
Does AoN even get paid for what they do, or it just volunteer?
upbeat ridge
its just volunteer
and if youre wondering why pathbuilder gets thier stuff in so quick, its because redrazors gets money from it and he simply Built Different
rustic cape
Foundry does too fwiw
clever cobalt
I was just purely curious
rustic cape
But anyway, I'm not actually bothered by AoN taking its time
upbeat ridge
yeah
rustic cape
It's just inconvenient
rustic cape
And as we all know my convenience is the most important thing /s
surreal basin
AON gets some money from it
They have a Patreon and take donations
And I doubt server costs take up 100% of those donations
Like it is volunteer but also they get money
echo briar
AoN staff said they are confident PC2 is going up at the end of this month
So tomorrow?
surreal basin
Must be
They said it around the 15th of the month and haven’t said otherwise
Although it wouldn’t be the first time they wordlessly missed a set deadline lol
clever cobalt
Debating what aesthetic to give my Kholo Exemplar
They're a Gleaming Blade/Pelt/Scar Exemplar with the Champion dedication
I may get art of them
echo briar
foundry hasn't updated for WotI right?
warped orbit
not yet
echo briar
What class do you think is hardest for them to implement? Both seem pretty easy to half ass, but very difficult to fully implement.
rustic cape
What class do you think is hardest for them to implement? Both seem pretty easy ...
I would say if they intend for the program itself to track immanence, Exemplar
steel blade
the playtest module had it set up pretty well, just a drop-down selector to switch where your spark is
(and if you made an attack with your weapon ikon while the spark was in your weapon, it would automatically add the spirit damage and stuff)
animist is more complicated because you have multiple spell lists and have to keep track of which one is active/usable
rustic cape
Yeah, when I was doing animist pre-release I had to manually add all my spells
But that does seem relatively easy to change
clever cobalt
War of Immortals is on Foundry
rustic cape
Oh nice!
rustic cape
Hm. Well. It appears the answer to "how did they implement animist apparitions" is "they didn't." :|
Unless I'm missing something.
sinful gyro
Sometimes it takes a bit to get all the features in
warped orbit
Usually they do all the data entry first, and then add automation for stuff later
Might take a few weeks
frank crystal
Yah kineticist was kinda non functional for a bit
Originally you basically had to custom make cantrips for your blasts
limber comet
craggy thunder
So I just realized thanks to watching OSP's newest video that my first Pathfinder character is a movie mummy, down to the idea of sympathy for the mummy being dismantled like in Bram Stoker's Jewel of the Seven Stars and downright stealing the main villain's bit from The Mummy (1999) where he's weak until he gets his body parts back
I have not read that novel or watched that movie
What the fuck XD
limber comet
The mummy 1999 is fun
craggy thunder
He's not fully revived or whatever until he steals enough body parts
fast hill
I am a vigilante in pathfinder. my friend has biographical eye. Does biographical eye cancel out the "20+deception proficiency DC to discover your identity" effect
warped orbit
I personally think it wouldn't
so I'd probably rule it as if they used it on your vigilante persona, it would give them information about that
and vice versa about your social persona
echo briar
So victors wreath has rules problems and we can't determan RAI. If I am knocked down via a save, should I be able to use its transcendence on that effect, and if I succeed on the save, do I take the stand action, or just spontaneously lose the prone condition?
warped orbit
you'd just lose the Prone condition I think, but that's effectively equivalent to standing up
fast hill
so I'd probably rule it as if they used it on your vigilante persona, it would g...
yeah that's how we're ruling it
surreal basin
So victors wreath has rules problems and we can't determan RAI. If I am knocked...
I feel like it’s probably gonna get errata’d to be more exclusive as to what it dispels
warped orbit
it is very broad yeah
"one ongoing negative effect or condition" is like... almost anything
you can use it to cure people of diseases trivially too
silver geyser
Iron Heart Surge returns to destroy the sun once again
rustic cape
"Negative effect or condition: the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune"
universe destroyed
warped orbit
"Negative effect or condition: the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune"
the world is Wrong 😛
fast hill
realising that untrained improvisation is crazy good
surreal basin
Definitely depends on the character but it can be p good
craggy thunder
man
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Woman
craggy thunder
Thaumaturge/Animist sounds like such a cool class & archetype combo
But it's probably so MAD
XD
fast hill
playing my vigilante/way of the drifter character who sneaks around and breaks into peoples homes, and we just got into combat
the entire party thought I was batman
little did they know I was actually corvo attano
fast hill
that was basically what happened
I was peering in through the window and saw they were about to get into a fight
I get first on initiative and just blast the guy in the face after breaking in
I wanna do a corvo character sometime properly
rogue with either witch or psychic
psychic gets basically just blink at later levels iirc
realised I even have a dueling sword
my ass literally corvo
craggy thunder
lmao amazing
surreal basin
Drifter with the magus archetype, take laughing shadow’s conflux spell
fast hill
ooooo yes
surreal basin
Or take the witch archetype
Use those spells to take stuff like dimension door
It’s technically legacy but
Take the baba yaga patron
This gives you an object as your familiar
The Heart
One could also argue that Corvo is more a rogue probably
craggy thunder
I wonder if there's gonna be an AP that just
surreal basin
Than a gunslinger
surreal basin
That’d be something yeah
craggy thunder
Disaster Godlings Go On A Road Trip
surreal basin
Loathe as I am to say it Corvo would probably be thief racket
I do also think a precision ranger would make sense though
fast hill
corvo is totally thief racket
not for any thievery but for being a fucking beast with a shortsword
dex to damage fits corvo tbh
upbeat ridge
'Exemplar free archetype is mandatory'
i think they kinda made the exemplar archtype real good for this reason
fast hill
He also does a substantial amount of thievery let’s not kid ourselves
of course
didn't mean to ping whoops
upbeat ridge
becasue your dm can easily say no in a normal campaign, but if they want to do a campaign where everybody gets a spark due to The Events then this can work
surreal basin
Doesn’t bother me
upbeat ridge
since you keep your regular class but also get exemplar stuff
elimintes the main character syndrome exemplar has
surreal basin
I think they also realize that stuff like the summoner archetype is pointless to even print lol
So they aired on the risky side
They might need to tone it down but that’s easy
IMO in PF2e’s case it’s way easier to tone down something that’s too strong than buff something that sucks
(Especially since they never seem to buff things)
echo briar
why is divine mysteries $79.99?
surreal basin
Is that not normal for a hardcover
surreal basin
Must be an error or a really big book then
crystal walrus
oh so new classes on pathbuilder not AoN?
surreal basin
Yes
warped orbit
AoN is still lagging behind
limber comet
Hmm
Wizards+ deliberations are interesting
They change how you regain focus points, it looks like
surreal basin
Oh?
surreal basin
I don’t see focus points mentioned here?
limber comet
Hold on
Ah they're feats
The feats trigger from the deliberation's special action
And those restore a focus point
limber comet
Oh I also like the new class archetype
It's a sort of
Planar "animist" for Wizards
trail nova
I love when the 3pp writers decide to go write content for an obscure downtime subsystem, that’swhen you know it’s popping off.
river flicker
so what are people's impressions of the mythic rules so far in War of Immortals? I love the new classes, archetypes, heritage/ancestry, but I feel like the Callings are a lil' lackluster and the Dedications I like even if I have my gripes with 'em
limber comet
The general impression is "pretty good" but people have some gripes with the mythic/hero point swapping stuff
Overall "it's pretty dang good but needs some more"
limber comet
No
craggy thunder
Oh?
limber comet
It's congruent with the main progression, but mythic characters (and mythic creatures) are significantly stronger than non-mythic
craggy thunder
That's fun
limber comet
Kaiju are now fightable, as are lesser deities like lower demon lords and...whatever Verex is
Oh and so is the Oliphaunt of Jandelay
But it's lvl 25 AND mythic so
Good luck
turbid dagger
So, I know there are ways but do not readily know them
What methods are there to prevent a character from dropping a weapon when unconcious?
echo briar
There’s a way to technically do it, but it needs an action to reset your grip so it doesn’t really count
Cheater answer: unarmed attacks
turbid dagger
I'm pretty sure there are magic items or talismans right?
wary yoke
Cheater answer: unarmed attacks
I was actually considing getting a set of gauntlets on my Exemplar when I play him that are cold iron and silver, to take advantage of Humble Strikes. And to have a backup option, because I'm needlessly paranoid.
craggy thunder
I was actually considing getting a set of gauntlets on my Exemplar when I play h...
okay but that's cool as fuck tbh
'oh, you have disarmed me, you are a worthy foe!'
'put up your dukes.'
errant roost
Henry Cavill's fists have the reload property
crystal walrus
So are exemplars like
Balanced
They're rare, and the only one that is seemingly
craggy thunder
I think they're Rare for their narrative elements
crystal walrus
I've not played 2e yet but they're also interesting me
Otherwise I'm swinging animist.
craggy thunder
They have a divine fragment of a literal god inside of them that's giving them this power
They are definitionally Important™️
craggy thunder
I mean in a homebrew world go nuts
They still will have a lot of 'mythical hero' sauce other classes don't tho
solar tendon
they're rare cause in golarion there's not that many of them
craggy thunder
Like all exemplars have a set of items By Which They Shall Be Known
solar tendon
still a ton but like
craggy thunder
As a class feature
solar tendon
fighters are everywhere
inventors and gunslingers aren't everywhere, except where they are, and then there's a whole bunch of them
crystal walrus
I was trying to figure that out because again
Not on nethys
Interesting thank u
I'm also super into animist
craggy thunder
Animist is very cool
My first one is a lotr style halfling
refugee from her village who hid in the woods
So she carries the spirit of home and the darker secrets of the forest with her
crystal walrus
I wanted to play an elf that spoke in idiom a lot.
craggy thunder
oh god xD
craggy thunder
I do have my first exemplar idea who is just
What if Jen Yu Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon but with a liuyedao instead of a jian
wary yoke
I'm trying to get Animist, and I'm not really getting why everyone likes them; I can see the versatility, but is that it?
crystal walrus
I'm trying to get Animist, and I'm not really getting why everyone likes them; I...
Class fantasy too
craggy thunder
The class fantasy is solid and the spirit choices are quite good
wary yoke
To me it just read like a 2E-ified shaman, which is great, but it didn't seem groundbreaking
Whereas the Exemplar was truly doing new martial stuff
turbid dagger
Balanced
They are balanced yeah!
Do note that presently the archetype kind of Isn't
In that it kind of lets you access Exemplar class features at full strength, something most multiclass archetypes largely don't do
crystal walrus
Ah well. I'll keep that in mind. It might not even be an issue if it's not on nethys.
We're doing something pretty dungeon of the week-y if we do pathfinder, so it might be that I play something else
Maybe an alchemist or a fighter
rustic cape
They are balanced yeah!
Do note that presently the archetype kind of Isn't
Tbh I think most martial multiclass archetypes are seriously undertuned
At least the dedication feats are
warped orbit
In that it kind of lets you access Exemplar class features at full strength, som...
I would probably structure Exemplar archetype like
- at 2, gain an ikon and its transcend but not the immanence, you can reinvest your spark as a 1 minute activity
- at 4, basic feat access and gain Spark Transcendence
- at 6, gain immanence of your ikon as a feat
you could potentially also roll the immanence in with gaining a second ikon
which i think is at 8 or 6?
I do think the current archetype is too stacked in terms of what you get from the dedication
craggy thunder
To me it just read like a 2E-ified shaman, which is great, but it didn't seem gr...
I mean idk if it rly has to be groundbreaking, not saying your disappointment is invalid
It does feel like an extremely focus spell focused class tho lol
wary yoke
I was just confused that a lot of people were saying they were liking something when I was just having the "they're the same picture" reaction
And to be clear, I really liked Shaman when it came out
rustic cape
I'm trying to get Animist, and I'm not really getting why everyone likes them; I...
Really good action economy and some cool unique tricks with vessel spells, plus extremely versatile spellcasting
The fact that all of your apparition spells are signature spells is worth a ton
Also pretty sturdy as casters go
craggy thunder
rly proud of this mini of my Animist so far
Rillka Meadowspake, followed by the spirit of her pet rooster Crow, who has transformed into a Custodian of Groves and Gardens, and a dark, faceless mirror of herself, a Stalker of Darkened Boughs
I think she's my first character that explicitly doesn't like adventuring lmao
warped orbit
would you say that if you have Shadow Sheath and Twin Stars, any of your thrown weapons used with the Sheath still get the twin trait?
craggy thunder
would you say that if you have Shadow Sheath and Twin Stars, any of your thrown ...
I feel like you'd have to draw two of the thrown weapon for that to work imo
Hold on
For Avenger
oh my god Avenger looks fucking gross???
(in a positive way, I am giggling in my chair rn)
Avenger of Shelyn
1d8 and sneak attack with reach
Fuck you
warped orbit
looking at Sovereignty Epithets for Exemplar rn
wow, these are really restrictive
Thief of Moonlight is just nothing
Healer of the World just seems like the most generally applicable one, which from a flavor perspective isn't great
rustic cape
Avenger seems amazing, yeah
solar storm
Yeah Arazni works pretty well I think
Pharasma too but not just vampires
Arazni is probably better for blade
craggy thunder
I actually think a pantheon might be the play
Sorrow's Sword or Gravelady's Guard in specific
solar tendon
I think the only vampire specific god is the vampire god who's on the wrong side of that equation
craggy thunder
Marceline Zura the Vampire Queen
solar tendon
I love how gorum is there just cause he's like "I want you to specifically beat up undead"
or not there any more I suppose heyo
craggy thunder
lmao
Vindicator seems like it'd be a very fun time if you got access to divine lance somehow
become a blaster specifically against dude who's your target
solar tendon
gravelady's guard is pretty good though yeah, combines the themes of arazni with pharasma's actively pushing you take out undead
and for a dhampir who follows arazni going after vampires specifically makes sense, for the revenge type deal
craggy thunder
Oh yeah dhampir
Me saying I wanna make blade was
maybe slightly hyperbolic
I meant like
dude/ette in a coat with a sword dusting vamps
generally
solar tendon
oh that's fair
craggy thunder
But honestly letting it ride sounds fun
craggy thunder
tru lmao
solar tendon
https://2e.aonprd.com/Equipment.aspx?ID=572 at least by this magic item
craggy thunder
Fucking
There's literally a dhampir feat called daywalker
lmao
"Some motherfuckers always tryna ice skate uphill."
limber comet
Does that mean Gale and Nethys...you know
craggy thunder
lmao
craggy thunder
I just realized Avenger rogue is a really easy way to start a Red Mantis character
surreal basin
Have this no context meme
Follow Up
craggy thunder
I wonder how an Irori worshipper would react to becoming an Exemplar
rustic cape
“I have to work extra hard to live up to this now”, perhaps?
lost bluff
Have this no context meme
No Context Memes you say?
spring beacon
The exemplar class is p interesting, but I'm kinda worried it will turn a player in a MC Syndrome
craggy thunder
“I have to work extra hard to live up to this now”, perhaps?
I ask cuz I'm making my first Exemplar a Samsaran Duskwalker and Irori worshipper, apropos this is his heroforge lol
rustic cape
I feel like “I have to work especially hard now” is a good fit then
craggy thunder
I feel like the 'I was given this power randomly' has various ways an Iroran could Cope ™️
But 'I have to work especially hard' is very on brand as the end result
rustic cape
“I didn’t earn this, but I have to be worthy of it”
craggy thunder
That, or
If they're a particularly prideful Iroran
'I did earn this, it is a sign of favor from the Master of Masters. I must work hard to perfect it.'
craggy thunder
Does that mean Gale and Nethys...you know
Halsin is a wild druid and also maybe an awakened bear if the writer is a furry
rustic cape
Given some of the things you can do with Halsin uh
craggy thunder
fair lol
craggy thunder
The exemplar class is p interesting, but I'm kinda worried it will turn a player...
I feel like you will have to really trust the player at the table who's the Exemplar
Though honestly there is the option of kind of putting the narrative side of it on autopilot cuz
mythical hero gonna do mythical hero shit
Which conveniently often aligns with the party cuz the party is also doing hero shit
solar tendon
I feel like in some ways exemplar isn't that much weirder than sorcerer tbh
like especially in the divine realm, compared to cleric, someone who a god has actively chosen to give increasing amounts of power to
yeah it's something they do on a regular basis but still
craggy thunder
Yeah, plenty of classes have 'I have been ~ chosen ~ and am ~ special ~' juice
Animist, Cleric, Champ, Kineticist a little bit, Oracle, Sorcerer, Summoner, and Witch all have the vibe
Man
A third of the characters I've made recently are Tian
XD
Actually no
I keep forgetting my kitsune is from the Avistani kitsune settlement
But that village is probably still pretty culturally Tian
craggy thunder
God Bloodrager looks so fucking cool
rapid wagon
mc syndrome is more the player than the class, and most mc pilled players i can think about want to be a ninja/rogue who is also good at everything else
craggy thunder
lmao
rapid wagon
though i also think players acting like an mc isn't so much of an issue as doing so at the expense of the other table members. Say eclipsing their personal narratives by assuming yours is the main one, or treating them like supportin characters when they arent electing to rp that way
limber comet
I think part of playing a ttrpg is recognizing that every player at the table is the mc
Lol
rapid wagon
pretty much exactly
the part is the MCs
its fine to play like an MC when you dont do it to exclusion of other people playing the game
craggy thunder
What's that new set of feats where you can use the haft of your two-hander as an agile offhand?
limber comet
Haft Striker I believe
craggy thunder
Oh it's a level 4 feat
rapid wagon
whats the main benefit of having that instead of just striking again?
does it give you an extra attack with the haft?
craggy thunder
Agile
The haft is agile, uuuuuuuuhhh
theoretically you could build a dual parry user build with it?
since it says it counts as two weapons in your hands
silver geyser
Ah, yes, good, Ranger Time.
craggy thunder
Yeah it basically is like
Harsk gets to use is axe better
You know
I just realized something
Varric from Dragon Age is 100% inspired by Harsk, right?
dwarven ranger, curious about the surface, constructed his own crossbow
craggy thunder
yarp
rapid wagon
eeench resting
maybe also grows my
opportunity to play a true spearmaster style character
steel blade
I just realized Avenger rogue is a really easy way to start a Red Mantis charact...
My Prey for Death GM is very happy that WoI came out while we were handling the first boss fight in that Adventure
(Spoilers ||the first assassination target has Gorum's major blessing, so at 0 hp he gains doomed 1 and resets to 150 hp until he hits doomed 4. WoI has multiple ways to give someone doomed||)
wary yoke
My Exemplar is going to have had his spark implanted as part of a failed ritual sacrifice
craggy thunder
Mine is Pharasma going 'lmao bet' and taking a fragment of the death of Gorum to make an undead hunter as a symbol that death comes for all
clever cobalt
Just had my first mythic session today
Went well, it isn't automated in Foundry yet but it was fun regardless
clever cobalt
We're only level 8 atm (since this was a continuation of a previous non-mythic campaign) but I went Sage for my calling, and plan to go Eternal Legend or maybe Godling
Swapped my class to Exemplar too, it's fun
rustic cape
Finally doing a session with time pressure and I gotta say it's actually pretty fun
craggy thunder
I like how with the Iconics throughout 1e's lifespan the writers took time to make characters who are just
kind of mundanely shitty?
Alain
This is about Alain lmao
Like he's not shitty cuz his dad was a cultist or whatever
limber comet
Then for Hell's Vengeance they immediately said "yeah this dude eats babies" /hj
craggy thunder
He's shitty because he was born to the noble class and had a gift for violence and flirting
limber comet
Yeah that's him
craggy thunder
Cavalier aye
warped orbit
I mostly guessed because everyone always mentions how that guy kinda sucks lmao
limber comet
The 1e alchemist was also kind of a dick iirc
craggy thunder
He's Valeros untempered by any concept of human decency xD
warped orbit
I remember Namo described the Cavalier getting into his first real battle and going
"Wow, this isn't what I expected at all..."
"It's actually even cooler"
craggy thunder
LITERALLY
clever cobalt
Alain is the Haughty Noble who, in his first fight, saw the brutality and went "this fucking rocks" right
craggy thunder
THAT IS LITERALLY THE TEXT
warped orbit
Guy who sees the horrors of war and says this rules actually
crystal walrus
Adrenaline Junkie
crystal walrus
I liked the old gunslinger
she's too high power to really exist as the iconic now
clever cobalt
How so?
crystal walrus
got all the rayguns and tech
clever cobalt
Ah
I would say we need a Tech supplement for PF2e but I guess Starfinder 2e is also cross compatible
So idk
craggy thunder
Old gunslinger is so cool
crystal walrus
Well she's from Alkenstar
craggy thunder
I feel bad cuz I like the new one too
crystal walrus
the new one is more Golarion Wide
craggy thunder
But like
warped orbit
I believe we'll get Numeria stuff eventually
crystal walrus
and also not human
craggy thunder
She's literally a fucking Wizard of Oz joke it's amazing
crystal walrus
is she?
craggy thunder
She's a simple girl (ignore she's an adult law enforcement agent) whisked away from her normal life in a dusty plains area by a magical windstorm to a fantasy land like the ones she's read about in books
clever cobalt
You mean Wizard of Oz?
crystal walrus
if she was a Huge Nerd she'd be Luz from Owl House 😛
clever cobalt
But yeah, doesn't she get teleported to Northern Avistan due to weird Mana Waste shenanigans
limber comet
I prefer the 2e gunslinger iconic
Nhalmika :]
The fact that she's older (for a dwarf) and a mother just makes her 20 times better imho
crystal walrus
okay this is badass tho
limber comet
She's fucking grear
crystal walrus
i forgot she had a gun the length and width of her torso