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echo briar
Yea, but subscribers get their PDFs some point in like a 2 week period. It feels like you get it day 1
solar storm
Oh yeah idk why that happens
I've gotten them late a few times but I don't have much to say if that happens haha
echo briar
Also, can someone confirm this merfolk meme?
solar storm
echo briar
Ah, a feat. For some reason I assume it was a base feature
surreal basin
There’s some cool ones
Summoning a stampede as an incarnate spell
Cursing someone with an albatross around their neck
Uhhhh camel spitting at someone
echo briar
I assume mostly primal
barren cipher
so you can now use resurrection magic to farm immortality?
surreal basin
what
barren cipher
you probably need resurrect 7 but if you’ve got a few pals who can help you cast it 125gp/year is very reasonably priced
surreal basin
does... it make you younger?
barren cipher
it stops you ageing
stuck bane
Is this in reference to the merfolk thing
barren cipher
yeah
turbid dagger
The logistics would be fairly complicated even putting aside all moral concerns
Considering it needs to be fresh
(Also after a point I feel you'd get a Marut and quite possibly psychopomps on your ass, I know Pharasma is broadly chill with immortality but I feel 'finding the rules exploit for agelessness' annoys pharasma enough that they'd show up)
clever cobalt
The guy who made the Immortality Potion meets with his own Marut every so often
He does so in Legends
warped orbit
so according to the reddit
Minotaurs apparently have a feat to give a twohanded weapon +5 reach if it doesn't have reach already?
eager mountain
Neat
surreal basin
Yeah I believe so
warped orbit
Minotaur seems pretty great for stuff like Fighter or Barb
or just a lot of classes tbh
frank crystal
Damn that’s real strong
warped orbit
Str/Con/Free is a super good boost setup
turbid dagger
And Cha- is sad since everyone and their hissy cat likes demoralizing but there are other things you can do
tough perch
minotaur seems like the optimal strength martial ancestry, if all you want to do is hit stuff and athletics
warped orbit
yeah
turbid dagger
Being able to give a greataxe reach is like
Nefarious
surreal basin
Yeah it’s neat
turbid dagger
But real talk
Its something NEW and very good but we have had stuff that is just as build defining before
Reminder that Hobgoblins can just keep someone frightened 1 permanently
From level 1!
turbid dagger
Unusual weaponry should be a general feat 😔
Humans would STILL be the best at using them
Cuz they could snag it level 1
tough perch
i love that there are tiny ancestry options. its adjacent to the current subject because it's very build and character defining, but not exactly the same thing because it's generally kinda bad,
but it's so neat, it often changes completely how you interact with the world
turbid dagger
I like the idea of a tiny character who is a caster
Vibing with the idea someone mentioned earlier of a powerful mage that is just a cat
For martials it feels like a far tougher sell
tough perch
i think it was me, i wanna play a spellcasting cat so bad
eager mountain
so
ya know whats funny
my gnome has possibly seen one of these before
becuase she lived that far from the whisperwood
where they are currently sighted
eager mountain
solar storm
What a little guy
surreal basin
He spits them out so hard they do damage
echo briar
What does the umbrella mushroom animal companion do? apparently you need to be 14th level to take it, and I am drawing a blank about what mushroom abilities need to be locked until that high of a level
solar storm
What does the umbrella mushroom animal companion do? apparently you need to be 1...
Flight capable, can slow falls, makes your attacks with no save
echo briar
ahh, I assume all the flying mounts are 14th level
But the bomber's saddle can finally be used
echo briar
what does the roc do? grapple people while flying?
echo briar
If only you could command your companion while raging (unless they introduced a feat in this book to get around that)
eager mountain
eager mountain
If only you could command your companion while raging (unless they introduced a ...
idk , mabye they have an animal companion thing for barbarian
otherwise idk why thier adding barbarian to these feats?
echo briar
or in the remaster they are getting rid of the "no concentrate actions while raging" thing
although it would be awkward for them to have this if they can't get an animal companion without architypes
echo briar
Yea, same with beast master
Not sure how good the new feats are because they could change the archetype
eager mountain
Not sure how good the new feats are because they could change the archetype
appearently thier an update to beast master in this
hence the beastmaster art
oh man thats some elden ring shit
solar storm
We’ll have to wait
echo briar
I thought it was in 2 months
eager mountain
....
duuuudee
ghost hydra!
ScroungeFeather
😄 it takes magic items for its nest....
AND can pick them up and use them if you try to take them back
eager mountain
It seems Baphomet got sniped out of minotaur lore
unfortunate
I think they have a different diety in pathfinder 2e
limber comet
Eh I mean
eager mountain
tho idk
limber comet
It makes sense, considering Baphomet as presented in 2e is basically 1 to 1 with d&d afaik
Was*
turbid dagger
Also, as a certain world renowned scientist has noted, it makes absolutely 0 sense that the god of minotaurs is in fact part goat, not part bull
eager mountain
mhm
eager mountain
Also, as a certain world renowned scientist has noted, it makes absolutely 0 sen...
which scientist ?
eager mountain
grafts
limber comet
This is definitely not foreshadowing
eager mountain
how do oyu mean ?
btw if anyone is asking, i dont own the book im just really scrounging anything I can find from social media and other stuff
becuase im excited
limber comet
Grafts/body mods are a thing in Starfinder
I expect this to be a minor test run
Augmentations are pretty big in sf2e actually
pastel bane
What book is this in?
limber comet
Howl of the Wild
People are getting early copies
And screenshots are proliferating
pastel bane
Ah neat
eager mountain
Hideous freak baby
to be fair the marp is a sentient fey
sooooo they can talk and shit
light gyro
rebirth moogle looking ass
pastel bane
sooooo they can talk and shit
You do understand that the fact it speaks is worse
eager mountain
You do understand that the fact it speaks is worse
https://tenor.com/view/defend-the-deep-angler-fish-light-the-oxygen-project-waterislife-gif-21783173
light gyro
someone mentioned a weremoose on the subreddit, does that have an illustration?
eager mountain
someone mentioned a weremoose on the subreddit, does that have an illustration?
your average canadian
@light gyro
light gyro
:0
sinful gyro
Looks like a good book
solar jacinth
your average canadian
"Take off, ya hoser!"
eager mountain
THE MOST POWERFUL OF KINETICISTs
frank crystal
Wait that’s just a normal turtle
eager mountain
ye
vocal wave
What's the point of skellingtons having resistance to piercing and slashing other than flavour and punishing people who chose the "wrong" weapon? Specially in a system that incentivises you to focus on having a single upgraded weapon
I'm planning on having a few skeleton heavy combats and there's only one martial pc who has an axe. I'm thinking about just giving the skellingtons more hp instead of them having resistance. How bad is that?
eager mountain
squirrel
frank crystal
What's the point of skellingtons having resistance to piercing and slashing othe...
It’s because skeletons have like, 0 HP
They rely on their resistances to stay alive
eager mountain
What's the point of skellingtons having resistance to piercing and slashing othe...
skeletons have like ...4 hp , its not a problem
frank crystal
So while they have a resistance to piercing and slashing they still die at a normal rate for an enemy of their level
clever cobalt
Just punch them
frank crystal
Bludgeoning just makes them die way faster
eager mountain
yeah
unless your at low levels
conversely
a zombie has a ton of hit points , but just have slashing weakness
and are slow
mongoooose
vocal wave
I much prefer the zombies having weakness to skeletors having resistances
eager mountain
same
vocal wave
It feels silly, just punishing certain weapon users
frank crystal
Yah honestly zombies kinda suck lol
They’re permanently slowed, have shit AC, weaknesses to some of the most common damage types and the most obvious damage type
Their only benefit is that they have a lot of HP
But you crit so often against them it doesn’t even matter
eager mountain
eager mountain
It feels silly, just punishing certain weapon users
its not really punishing
thats just how they work
carmine egret
Barbarians get a load of extra damage so they're probably gonna blow past Resistance anyway. The thing about Resistance is that you can get around it by just focusing on big chunks of damage over, say, whittling them down with many strikes
eager mountain
why view it as antogonistic, when its just reflective that slashing and piercing just arent good against bone
too many holes for an arrow
kinda just clinks off with a swinging blade
silver geyser
This is delightful.
vocal wave
I think it just makes the players who have already specialized in say swords or axes feel bad, instead of just making the players who decided to use hammers feel good
It's a small thing tho I know
carmine egret
Different builds will be better against different enemies
More versatility is generally valuable
eager mountain
carmine egret
The hammer players will be at a disadvantage when you run into something with the inverse Resistances
eager mountain
I think it just makes the players who have already specialized in say swords or ...
you cant expect not to encounter something that may be resistant against your stuff
becuase not everything is the same
eager mountain
that is true
i was gonna say, you cant just expect to come up against a slime or something and expect it not to have resistance too something
carmine egret
But in terms of just, Resistance 5 against a kinetic type? That's nothing some brute force can't solve.
However maybe you could mix in some non-skeletons?
eager mountain
theres an encounter in the beginner box thats like 4-5 skeletons and 1 zombie
always love seeing people's reaction to encountering resistances for t he first time
carmine egret
I don't think just boosting HP and removing Resistance will be bad, to be clear. But ultimately what you're encountering is a core design philosophy of the game.
eager mountain
now ill tell you wahts a real pain
SMOG WRAITHS and anything like them
BECUASE
you almost CANT hurt them
unless ya got positive, ghost touch or force
...which I supooooose spirit damage might also count now ?
they were a thing before spirit damage
with the presence of spirit damage thier probably easier now
frank crystal
Have everyone play spirit barbarians
frank crystal
I actually did just throw a manticore at my party
If only I waited a few more weeks
Could have had way more chimeras for them
light gyro
"that is not a horse that is a Satan, fuck 'em up"
carmine egret
I'm planning on having a few skeleton heavy combats and there's only one martial...
To double back a little, 1) what do you mean by "a few skeleton heavy combats" and 2) are we talking your bog-standard Bestiary humanoid skeletons or something more high-level?
rustic cape
I much prefer the zombies having weakness to skeletors having resistances
I mean that’s the thrust of it, it’s a perceptual decision
The skeletons come out and the veteran players go “oh shit skeletons I should’ve brought a blunt weapon” and then they win anyway and they feel good
Alternately the zombies come out and the players with slashing weapons discover they get a damage bonus and they feel good
solar tendon
the other big difference is resistance and weakness doesnt affect builds equally
and like especially in early levels before flat damage bonuses and striking runes even a small amount of resistance can just like. completely negate someone
eager mountain
carmine egret
If we're talking about a couple of encounters with several Minecraft skeletons or whatever then I would say that a Barbarian can probably still brute-force through their Resistances without much trouble, though unlucky damage rolls might sting. It might even encourage them to approach the fight in unconventional ways like grappling or shoving rather than just chopping everything in half like usual. It's a challenge that invites the player to divise a solution, even if the solution might be "just hit them REALLY hard"
solar tendon
whereas if you do a big chunk of damage its like who cares the thing has no hp anyway
yeah a barbarian with a 2h weapon will be literally fine
you wont even notice
carmine egret
However if this was, say, a whole adventure with a lot of potent creatures with Resistance against the same thing, then yeah you might want to get a different weapon
carmine egret
Boarzoi
frank crystal
Also is the book out for everyone yet?
silver geyser
OK NOW THATS TERRIFYING
Showa Era Kaiju Reference spotted!
frank crystal
LEGENDARY POKEMON
Dudes stances up
sinful gyro
Also is the book out for everyone yet?
Subscriber preview I think
frank crystal
Ah ok
eager mountain
Also is the book out for everyone yet?
yeah its just a subscriber preview
good book tho
highly reccomend
frank crystal
🫡
echo briar
I wonder if there’s any class feats for unusual classes in HotW. I know Druid got a bunch in the otherwise thematically unrelated dark archive.
You could make some animal based psychic or thaumaturge feats
Gunslinger feat chain to use squirrels as ammo
eager mountain
Uhhh I think there’s some beast gunner stuff
echo briar
Inventor who “invented” a chimera
eager mountain
Idk about inventor or thaumaturge
echo briar
also, how does riding a centaur work?
Is it "both players lose an action" like normal, or are there feats to make the centaur work more like a mount?
light gyro
shoot da aliems
https://downloads.paizo.com/240508_Starfinder_FieldTest_5.pdf
sinful gyro
Nice
clever cobalt
Analog Weapons can use Weapon Runes 👀
sinful gyro
systems, and electric power sources, but was manufactured and
calibrated using advanced technology. This weapon is immune to
abilities that target technology. Weapon runes (GM Core 236) don’t
function on this weapon unless this weapon also has the archaic
trait.```Only if it's also archaic
clever cobalt
err, yeah
frozen hatch
So does Hell's rebels have the worst campaign traits of all due to the fact they're only relevant and usable in that first encounter?
surreal basin
Bwuh
frozen hatch
Wait I'm an idiot and missed something nvm
light gyro
running book 4 of strength of thousands still. panicked cus i realised i hadn't created a token for an upcoming monster - ||the gold defender garrisons.|| managed to improvise something from this image mid-session: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1175722380288651264
light gyro
yeah i just scrawl on the map with the pen tool lul
surreal basin
Oh I mean not even for the resizing, tbh I just make them go down a size category instead of the weird extant rules
I just mean finding art of enemies in groups is
Hard
light gyro
oh yeah, true. if i wasn't a touhou nerd i'd have no clue where to start
warped orbit
Oh I mean not even for the resizing, tbh I just make them go down a size categor...
Isn't that how they work?
warped orbit
Huh
solar tendon
they use spaces kinda weird too
turbid dagger
They can shape up into weird shapes right
warped orbit
I do know they can change their footprint with their movement
solar storm
I think the best way to do them is to make a token for each space
With a different colored "master" token which holds HP and stats
solar tendon
theres a lot of rules to make it possible to do that basically
it's just
troops are weird
form up means they can take any arbitrary contiguous shape within a 15 radius
but then they all have a rule saying they form into a square whenever they move so
technically they can 'move' without moving by forming up manually
surreal basin
With a different colored "master" token which holds HP and stats
That’s basically it yeah
turbid dagger
Moving like twelve tokens or something sounds like a complete nightmare though
solar storm
Yeah that's better
solar storm
Moving like twelve tokens or something sounds like a complete nightmare though
It's IME ok unless you use drag ruler
Which stops you from moving a token while another token is still moving
For Foundry
frank crystal
What classes have the best initiative?
solar storm
Rogue if they're good at convincing the GM
frank crystal
Just by using other skills?
solar storm
yeah they have great skill progression in general
Rogue and Investigator also have the best perception proficiency scaling
Out of date now but I think still mostly useful
frank crystal
Thanks for this chart
But also I guess more specifically, what class has the best perception?
warped orbit
Fighters also have very good Initiative specifically
frank crystal
Do they get bonuses to it or just good perception?
warped orbit
because they also get a +2 circ bonus on Initiative rolls when they become Master in Perception at 7
solar storm
Oh that explains why they never get Legend
frank crystal
Oh neat
worthy stump
overall prooobably Ranger? as the legendary perception class most classically likely to invest in Wisdom, and Hunt Prey does give you some situational circumstance bonuses to Perception
frank crystal
Do none of the wisdom casters get legendary perception?
warped orbit
lmao no
worthy stump
nope, expert at best
warped orbit
casters pretty universally have pretty bad Perception
in terms of proficiency anyway
worthy stump
even with a +6 wisdom modifier, you only beat out a +0 wisdom legendary perc class by +2
and it's very likely they will invest at least a bit into wisdom, it's a good stat
frank crystal
Damn
That feels kinda weird tbh
Like Druids at least I thought would have good perception
worthy stump
well, at least at 20
until people start getting to legendary, though, druid and cleric will have pretty good perception in comparison
so levels 1-12, for the most part
...wait, actually
right, outdated chart
no, Gunslinger is by far the best initiative roller
they get up to Legendary, and if you go Pistolero, you have a permanent +2 circumstance bonus to init
frank crystal
Oh nice
warped orbit
you can also compensate with some ancestries, or taking Incredible Initiative
worthy stump
mhm
warped orbit
my Investigator has the +2 circumstance from Elven Instincts
worthy stump
a primary wisdom caster with incredible initiative is nothing to scoff at
cyan raven
very late. but a playtest scenario of..... mostly just swarms and troops, and a couple demons, and one demon that just showed up, tries to bind someone with no damage, then left. guardian/commander/champion/cleric. there really was nothing happening
echo briar
How much howling is in howl of the wilds?
eager mountain
river flicker
Two of these Lore skills are not like the other 
Those two are the ones I picked for the Reborn Soul background. I have no fucking clue when a GM would ever call for a Lore: Quantum Thermodynamics check anywhere in Golarion, even in Numeria...but fuck it I'm having it there anyway
true delta
Hmmm. Thimking about a one-shot I could run for my frends and me to learn PF2e better. I've run half of Little Trouble in Big Absalom and half of Beginner's Box before. However, I found the narrative part less than gripping. Not sure whether I just presented them with lacking enthusiasm. Perhaps, the kobold mischief needs emphasis?
sinful gyro
The narrative stuff there is light
Beginner box is just a clear out my cellar mission, no real narrative focus
Little Trouble doesn't have a ton either unless you make the town more active
sinful gyro
Not sure. There's the free RPG day ones? Depends what you mean by one shot
eager mountain
frank crystal
This from the new starfinder 2e playtest?
eager mountain
This from the new starfinder 2e playtest?
ye
frank crystal
Sick
solar jacinth
The Remaster Cheat Sheet has helped out considerably to understand the game.
I say that while I'm still working on comprehending Foundry vtt
crystal walrus
true delta
The Remaster Cheat Sheet has helped out considerably to understand the game.
May i ask which one you mean? I.e. is there a link?
And could somebody pin it? ^^
solar jacinth
@true delta This one in particular.
true delta
Thank you, Dave
solar tendon
says pdf may 22
solar storm
How do people have Howl of the Wild?
If you have a Paizo subscription they give you pdf access when the book leaves the warehouse so people with one get the book a couple weeks early
pastel bane
frank crystal
Does PF2E have an equivalent to 5e’s incapacitated?
Where a creature is unable to act but not necessarily knocked out or dead?
turbid dagger
Where a creature is unable to act but not necessarily knocked out or dead?
Well, mechanically there's Paralyzed but obviously that is narratively quite different
Commander has Demand Surrender which inflicts a similar situation on enemies (they lie prone and do nothing unless attacked)
frank crystal
Hmm, if that’s the case for this thing I’m doing I’ll probably just make it work on unconscious creatures
And say it raises them to 1 HP but paralyzes them
warped orbit
Where a creature is unable to act but not necessarily knocked out or dead?
Stunned with a duration
eager mountain
warped orbit
I thought stun capped at 3
basically there is a difference between Stunned with a value, and Stunned with a duration
if it has a duration, you just can't act for that duration
worthy stump
uhh, should be, lemme go check
Desert Drake has electricity attacks
and Sea Drakes as well
those are the only two as far as i can tell
worthy stump
carmine egret
hey, does pf2 have "take 10" rules?
frank crystal
What’s that?
worthy stump
For the most part, not generally. You need the Assurance skill feat for an approximation
ionic pier
What’s that?
In 5e, you take longer to complete an action, but it's assumed to have rolled a 10 on the dice
Iirc
worthy stump
Take 10 is a DnD rule that was also in PF1e, which basically let you treat an action as having a result of 10 on the dice, as long as you weren’t in a stressful situation or pressed for time
ionic pier
I never really understood the need for it because if it's something being done in a non stressful situation and there are no consequences for failure, why even assume there was a need for a roll to begin with
frank crystal
In 5e, you take longer to complete an action, but it's assumed to have rolled a ...
Ah then yah I don’t think PF2E has that
carmine egret
For the most part, not generally. You need the Assurance skill feat for an appro...
Ooooh right right right
now I remember
trail nova
Take 10 generally doesn’t take longer, it just can’t be done when distracted, at least pre 5e. Take 20 is “if you can just repeat the check, you don’t need to roll until you get a 20”
Any d20 game has taking 20, it’s just a question of if it mentions it
worthy stump
You could take 10 if there was a consequence for failure, at least back in PF1e
So picking a lock or a trap or such
trail nova
That was taking 20. I think you could take 10 so long as it wasn’t under pressure, but a lot of skills explicitly didn’t let you
But you very much can take 10 to say… jump a gap, even if there’s a consequence for failure
carmine egret
how do you determine a person's Bulk for the purposes of carrying them?
echo briar
Yea, the carrying creatures rules are wack.
Like I think RAW a bird animal companion can still fly if it’s carrying a small or tiny creature, but not if the creature is riding it
carmine egret
https://gyazo.com/db6641a6531b1dd6d20380930d4c328e my ungrateful dogs of players decided to pass on carrying the body in question even though I made this with love and care
silver geyser
I'mma eat it.
worthy stump
Do Not
solar storm
Iruxi spotted
carmine egret
Overall though the session went great. My party is kind of a weird venn diagram of two of my different friend groups so two of the players have never been in a game together and they've already formed the great dynamic where the ex-gladiator himbo has instinctually fallen into step as the shady halfling's dumb muscle.
heavy mesa
kholo frowns in disappointment
carmine egret
The ||giant spider|| in the third room got instantly evaporated by said gladiator in a demonstration of why Fighters are good.
surreal basin
funny reminder that I'm thinking of as I try to imagine that blog idea from a long time ago
monsters and npcs can recall knowledge on PCs
unborn rain
I think that might really help keep people reminded that they can recall knowledge
surreal basin
it also leads to really mean shit
the enemy mage recalls knowledge, learns who had the worst fort save, sends the flesh golem grappler over
thinkin I might actually do this blog
starting with gobbos probably
eager mountain
crab
eager mountain
https://gyazo.com/db6641a6531b1dd6d20380930d4c328e my ungrateful dogs of players...
my players attached to a miflit in a worm costume
and like at the ned of tonight's session, a cave collapsed on them and that miflit critically failed thier check
taking 40 something damage out of thier 10 hit points and was squashed by a rock
( till I realized like , they had a +4 to dodge at the moment and uhhhh they just failed
which still downed them
but not instantly dead
light gyro
monsters and npcs can recall knowledge on PCs
there's a boss encounter in strength of thousands where the mage has hypercognition prepared 
frank crystal
Out of all the dragons, what do y’all think is the best one for a kinda, shady businessman character?
Kinda, putting their fingers in every pie manipulator type
worthy stump
blue dragons immediately spring to mind for classic types, but your best bet is probably the new conspirator dragon from the remaster
barren cipher
for trad chromatic/metallic dragons, nobody expects the gold dragon
unborn rain
My brain did instantly answer Blue and I don't know enough about remaster dragons to give you a remaster answer
surreal basin
conspirator dragon for guy who does a lot of illusion and trickery
omen dragon for a gyy using fortune telling to get ahead
frank crystal
Yah, blue/conspirator or maybe gold for a more twisty version could be neat
surreal basin
fortune dragon for a guy who really really likes money
frank crystal
My setting doesn’t necessarily have chromatic as evil and metallic as good
worthy stump
they won't be on AoN for a week or so, though. the remaster dragons
frank crystal
So gold could be a fun play
frank crystal
they won't be on AoN for a week or so, though. the remaster dragons
They are on foundry though which is what I use
worthy stump
true, true
surreal basin
frank crystal
Are fortune dragons like, divination fortune or money fortune?
worthy stump
the latter
frank crystal
Ah ok
Hmm, admittedly I kinda do like gold
Especially since this character is a young dragon
So she’s already not fulfilled the old wise niche gold dragons normally have
turbid dagger
They melt bling directly into their scales
'bling' often meaning like
+2 greater striking bastard swords and shit
turbid dagger
My SOT GM is giving screenshots
limber comet
Valid, valid
turbid dagger
I love Clawdancer SO MUCH
It is exactly what I wanted out of that name
Also Animal Instinct is officially a better anti-caster instinct than Superstition so thats fun
warped orbit
oh did they get some new feats?
turbid dagger
They got one I was shown
Animal Instinct or Untamed Order Druid
If they hit with a strike granted by a polymorph effect, they can spend an action after the fact (like furious grab) to apply guaranteed Stupefied 2
For 1 round
barren cipher
jesus christ!
warped orbit
but I guess finally some good support for your allied casters too?
turbid dagger
Oh wait no I misread!
(Spoilers, its still quite good)
You dont automatically apply it
You make another strike
And if that hits, you apply it
barren cipher
so like press?
warped orbit
okay, making it effectively a Press is slightly less reliable
still very good though
turbid dagger
Yeah but its not listed as such
Since you need to hit with the first strike too
barren cipher
so worse press
turbid dagger
So the sequence goes
Do damage
Do damage
Now stupefied
If you do not do damage either of those times no stupefied
barren cipher
stride strike strike is a decent enough barb turn anyway
you can probably get a third action in there with animal instinct right?
predator's pounce or some stride+strike one action is in there i think
turbid dagger
Yep, pounce, discombobulate, furious grab
Just ruin them
Put them in the locker
Oh and I forgot the best thing
This feat?
Level 4
Which puts it firmly in 'the first metastrike you will get' territory as a barb lol
warped orbit
what does Claw Dancer actually do btw?
I only read they have a claw stance and a talon stance, and they swap between the two using different metastrikes?
turbid dagger
They do LOADS of shit but thats the basic deal
I'd repost the screenshots but I worry I will get sprayed with a water bottle
15 feats including the dedication
Almost all of them are metastrikes of some variety
Or some reaction that involves a strike
Lots of action compression feats with like
'make two strikes with normal MAP and also do X'
I love the idea of it and flurry ranger
warped orbit
15
holy shit
barren cipher
that's like wrestler levels of busy
turbid dagger
Its a rare archetype where I can see myself taking it on a non free archetype char and just
Using most of my class feats on it
As opposed to just snagging one or two things
Alright fuck it, will delete if asked
But like
God almighty look at this
They did a VERY good job imparting a sense of violence and momentum to every one of these feats
The name is apt
You dance
With your claws!
frank crystal
They melt bling directly into their scales
That is pretty rad
Yah I’m gonna make her a fortune dragon
They sound really cool
warped orbit
Alright fuck it, will delete if asked
But like
God almighty look at this
oh that is very cool yeah
frank crystal
Alright fuck it, will delete if asked
But like
God almighty look at this
That first feat is rad
What’s the stance?
turbid dagger
What’s the stance?
Terrifyingly, Talon Stance implies you normally do need a free hand to use unarmed stance attacks
Which is a world-changing revelation
(I will assume its just meant in contrast to claw stance)
warped orbit
huh
I was fairly certain that unarmed attacks in general already had that inherently
turbid dagger
Me too!!!!
solar tendon
I think it depends on if theyre attached to your hands or not
but natural language strikes
warped orbit
I know some of the claws have extra text specifying you can't use them with full hands
turbid dagger
A lot of clawdancers stuff specifically calls for two free hands also
Which is, frankly, good to see
Get those fucking shields out of here, please
warped orbit
haha
light gyro
I'm not an expert, does this go crazy with monk or nah
turbid dagger
Its probably decent with monk
Not the Stankiest pick I think
light gyro
I've been cooking a kitsune monk so it might have a place
warped orbit
the stances are slightly weaker than Monk stances at a glance, but not by much
so should still be good
but also not sure how much Monk stuff would actually hook into Clawdancer, and vice versa
turbid dagger
And thats made up for by it having loads more metastrikes than the monk stances
frank crystal
Terrifyingly, Talon Stance implies you normally do need a free hand to use unarm...
I’m just gonna assume that’s just flavor because I am never giving up jaw Gnolls
warped orbit
And thats made up for by it having loads more metastrikes than the monk stances
oh yeah for sure, it has much more internal synergy
turbid dagger
I feel Agile Grace Fighter or Flurry Ranger are the spookiest classes to do this archetype with
warped orbit
probably, yeah
solar tendon
stirling dynamo has it as a choice
turbid dagger
As it really really loves 'make 45 attacks, increase MAP normally)
warped orbit
stirling dynamo has it as a choice
well Dynamo is also more like "you can make this take up a hand, in exchange for increasing the damage one step"
warped orbit
yeah I was trying to say I still feel like the default is unarmed not requiring a free hand
solar tendon
yeah
warped orbit
because the cases where it did so far were worded more like an exception
so until we get more official clarification, my assumption will be the writer for this might have just forgotten that
frank crystal
Yah
I feel like the general rules we’ve always had outrule this singular instance in a brand new book
Which otherwise still sticks to you always having access to unarmed attacks
solar tendon
its also partially that like
its a game where the intent is that your consideration is not just based on rules
imo
so when it is stated its not necessarily stating any opposite ghost rule
frank crystal
Yah, this stance doesn’t exist in a vacuum
The existing unarmed rules are still a thing
limber comet
I just assume that it was like that so you could still use a shield or something
Anyways Surkis and Minotaur are my favorite new ancestries
carmine egret
This could be great for the Changeling character idea I had
warped orbit
Minotaur looks dope for basically any martial
frank crystal
I really wanna play a Minotaur character
There’s no way to get like, extra reach on a reach weapon right?
By the Minotaur feats I mean
Because I know there’s one that gives reach
warped orbit
AFAIK no
frank crystal
Ah ok
Then what I think I’m gonna do is maybe a Minotaur paladin to give something reach
Get a reach maul for reaction strikes
warped orbit
you can give reach to 2h stuff that normally doesn't, which is pretty good
d12 reach weapons, or getting ones with funky traits
barren cipher
yeah that's a lot of squares
frank crystal
And minotaurs already being large means their base reach is more squares
Yah actually are there any special rules for being large?
Other then the inherent rules of being large like grappling and adjacency?
warped orbit
not from what I've heard
barren cipher
not really
frank crystal
Ah alright
warped orbit
play Minotaur Guardian with Larger Than Life
you now count as a Huge creature for purposes of maneuvers
frank crystal
Who even needs titans wrestler anymore
Also if enlarge is cast on you do you become huge?
warped orbit
you need Enlarge 4 for that
barren cipher
you can't actually benefit from enlarge at all
clever cobalt
Still waiting for my copy to ship
surreal basin
That’s kinda weird
Making a big creature even bigger is hard
turbid dagger
This could be great for the Changeling character idea I had
O
M
G
Slag May Clawdancer 😳 😳 😳
frank crystal
Making a big creature even bigger is hard
I’m more talking about how there’s no effect at all
I thought at least you’d get the damage bonus and clumsy 1
carmine egret
O
M
G
Slag May Clawdancer 😳 😳 😳
I want a big buff lass who has rejected magic entirely and just shreds fools
Tho that would also make a fun magus
surreal basin
Btw, just looked at slag may
What…. Does an unarmed attack with grapple even do for you
solar storm
Bypasses MAP at least
surreal basin
That’s grab
barren cipher
handwrap potency runes
surreal basin
Not grapple
Yeah I guess that’s all it does
Which is okay
Not amazing because item bonuses to athletics are really easy to get but I suppose it’s something
frank crystal
Doesn’t it let you grapple with both hands occupied?
barren cipher
yeah if you for some reason aren't buying athletics items but are still investing heavily in athletics...
surreal basin
Doesn’t it let you grapple with both hands occupied?
This is on an unarmed attack tho
barren cipher
someone's jaw attack does
solar storm
Oh huh
surreal basin
…. Have you been running the grapple and trick traits like the monster abilities
Trip
Not an unfair assumption but
Woof
frank crystal
Like for PCs?
surreal basin
Yes
barren cipher
guisarme users suddenly the baddest dudes in town
surreal basin
I am specifically referring to Cyan in this case
solar storm
…. Have you been running the grapple and trick traits like the monster abilities
No I just misread what you wrote
surreal basin
Ahh okay
It was just the Huh after that lol
Where I was like “oh that’d be crazy”
frank crystal
It was my understanding if you have an unarmed attack with the grapple/trip/push trait you can do those actions with both hands occupied- oh that was directed at Cyan
barren cipher
if it's your claws then no, you need free hands for those
surreal basin
Yeah claws I would definitely say fall under the grasping appendage clause
It also doesn’t take up a hand, though a fist or other grasping appendage generally works like a free-hand weapon.
frank crystal
Ngl I always ran the actual appendage as flavor
Like even if it says fists or claws
They’re still usable with your hands occupied
barren cipher
if you've got an unspecified unarmed attack with like... trip or something? you could use that with your hands full sure
surreal basin
It depends on the thing
Like a lot of unarmed attacks, sure
But like…. A claw attack or a talon attack is pretty specific
Admittedly I guess you could make kicks
frank crystal
I mean when I’m dealing with game rules like this, if it can be interpreted in a more vague way and a more definitive way, I’ll interpret it as the latter
surreal basin
Anyway yeah this would actually be fun with Clawdancer
frank crystal
So just a blanket, all unarmed attacks can be used with hands occupied
barren cipher
An unarmed attack uses your body rather than a manufactured weapon. An unarmed attack isn’t a weapon, though has a weapon group and might have weapon traits. An unarmed attack can’t be Disarmed. It also doesn’t take up a hand, though a fist or other grasping appendage generally works like a free-hand weapon.
surreal basin
I mean that’s fair I’m just saying by default it’s up to gm interpretation and I think most GMs would say you need a hand free to grapple unless the unarmed thing is like
From a new appendage
limber comet
Howl Ancestry feat spoilers but
frank crystal
What is the ancestry?
limber comet
Minotaur
frank crystal
Ohhhh
limber comet
Minotaur thaum maybe?
Also the minotaurs have a philosophy similar to leonines from MtG: Theros
limber comet
Minotaurs are from the dark lands?
I meant Surkis but the question asked confused me
surreal basin
Oh Oke
frank crystal
Honestly hope we get some kinda support feats for meld with eidolon
Just something to make that feat even slightly worth it
Even if it’s still a secondary strategy for more niche scenarios
limber comet
Minotaurs are from the dark lands?
Additionally, they probably could be pretty well off, living nomadic lifestyles in the darklands
Due to their inherent navigation instincts
thorny berry
Minotaur
I feel weird about this. I think it's a cool effect and it's cool flavor, but I almost feel like the two don't quite match.
that said ye seems handy for feints and demoralizes on thaum
limber comet
It's a bit weird
The wardens don't have deity statblocks
Green Men have deity stat blocks, but not the Wardens of the Wild
eager mountain
Out of all the dragons, what do y’all think is the best one for a kinda, shady b...
…. The conspirator dragon
light gyro
Everyone suspects the conspirator dragon. Must be pretty hard to get any conspiring done
true delta
I bet conspirator dragons can make crazy money as fall guys for less obvious conspirators.
true delta
Heya. I was looking at PF2 remastered pregens and I have questions about the witch:
- Can the familiar cast spells?
- Does the witch temporarily lose any spells, e.g. the Hex spells, when the familiar dies?
I have consulted the rulebook but probably missed these parts.
light gyro
- Some feats let your familiar do extra things I think
- No.
solar tendon
you technically cant prepare spells without your familiar but they return automatically if theyre dead when you prepare stuff so
your refocus activity is also communing with your familiar but thats so easy to get around with archetypes or something
so theres not much point in ruling that as requiring the familiar to be present necessarily.
light gyro
Lugging your temporarily dead fox buddy around so you can have debates with it and get your witch juice back
solar tendon
if your familiar was stolen you might be in a little trouble but thats no different to a spellbook
true delta
Okay, cool. Thank y'all.
solar tendon
spell delivery is a familiar ability that allows you to deliver touch spells through your familiar
and when you get 6th rank casting or higher a familiar can use an ability to learn a spell 5 ranks lower
frank crystal
…. The conspirator dragon
I mean yah but that’s obvious
I say you see a conspirator dragon approach and they immediately know this is a bad deal
frank crystal
This dragon presents as a legitimate businesswoman
ionic pier
Familiars require a decent amount of creative thinking to use, though at least there are also some really straightforward abilities lol
I think there's one that allows you to refocus during combat also, which is always nice
solar tendon
i think if a conspirator dragon approaches openly youre probably fucked
cause you accepted the bad deal 5 sessions ago and now they're gloating
frank crystal
Yah, these dragons operate way to openly to fill the conspirator dragon niche
They’re ruthless businesspeople, but they’re also public figures
That feels out of character for a conspirator dragon
solar tendon
can conspirator dragons disguise themselves as other dragons
frank crystal
…I don’t know
They are arcane spellcasters
So they have access to the dragon form spell
solar storm
Only humanoids with their natural ability
frank crystal
solar tendon
Only humanoids with their natural ability
so no one would ever suspect it 😏
surreal basin
They’re wearing a gold dragon costume :3
frank crystal
Just like a physical one?
solar tendon
its just paint
surreal basin
Yeah
frank crystal
I mean honestly
surreal basin
It’s perfect
frank crystal
Most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between dragons if not for scale color
surreal basin
You roll deception to make disguises
frank crystal
So it may very well work
surreal basin
It’s not magic
So like, players will rule out illusions and then just
Assume it’s legit
Also they can Yakuza rip off their disguise
frank crystal
They players are poisoned and fall asleep
They come to several days later as stage lights are beamed in their face
They find themselves behind podiums on a game show set
Their gold dragon ally flies on stage
Rips off their disguise
“I’ve been here the whole time!”
dapper tusk
Society feels very janky compared to the rest of the Skills in the game
even in a very RP-focused campaign, I struggle to envision a scenario where you'd use it other than just as a glorified Lore skill
turbid dagger
Society feels very janky compared to the rest of the Skills in the game
I think the big thing is that its the RK skill for all humanoids
Who are both a very large pool and the most varied of all the groups
dapper tusk
fair
solar tendon
its as much a glorified lore skill as the rest of the RK skills lol
also courtly graces in some campaigns
dapper tusk
well the others let you interact with their associated type of magic
and being able to interact with magic stuff is always going to be useful in a magic setting
unborn rain
society lets you talk to fancy people
it is sort of an unspecialised lore skill, but without it it's sort of really weird
frank crystal
I use society mostly for knowledge yah
Any questions of history or politics mostly
trail nova
Yeah, Society is the old Knowledges History, Local, and Nobility.
dapper tusk
i wonder if it would be possible for a Rogue to get to a state where they can't possibly roll a d20 without adding proficiency bonus
solar tendon
death saves
dapper tusk
they get a ton of skill proficiencies, and there are some feats that give proficiency in all weapons
oh damn
"I am proficient in all things within this world other than death."
unborn rain
i wonder if it would be possible for a Rogue to get to a state where they can't ...
Anyone can get to that point thanks to our lord and saviour Untrained Improv
Getting to that state as a rogue (or any skill monkey class) is pretty easy, I think you could even get there at like level 1 for all skills
warped orbit
being at least trained in everything isn't that hard as Rogue or Investigator yeah
I think my Investigator is currently trained in everything except like 3-4 skills
unborn rain
being trained in everything isnt really useful once you get leveled up
As specialisation becomes much more important
warped orbit
Oh yeah
Trained stops being super useful once you get to Master skills and onwards
You can still do stuff technically, but you're pretty far behind
frank crystal
What do y’all think are some fun actions for a hybrid weapon user NPC?
dapper tusk
being trained in everything isnt really useful once you get leveled up
wouldn't it be the other way around?
because the difference between trained and expert is always only +2
but the difference between untrained and trained at high levels is +20
solar tendon
it's better than nothing
but master+items vs trained on on level tasks is a big difference
dapper tusk
like i know that in any game there are some tasks you do a lot more than others, so there's value to minmaxing
but at high levels untrained->trained literally takes you from critical fail to critical success
solar tendon
it's just very easy to only do stuff you specialise in
it doesn't matter if you go from a +4 to a +20 in nature if you never roll it cause the druid has +25
it's not irrelevant, there's a reason why untrained improvisation is a beloved general feat
but it's also true that the higher in levels the wider the gap becomes between a trained skill and an invested one
frank crystal
I finally got the book and the werecreature archetype seems sick
tough perch
there's also stuff that's always a good investment to have at least trained, IMO
such as athletics, acrobatics, diplomacy, deception
being like level 5, completely unable to climb a rope ladder because your athletics is +0 is funny, but not good
limber comet
There's an archetype in the book I really like but it's not public knowledge so I can't say anything
warped orbit
such as athletics, acrobatics, diplomacy, deception
Athletics and Acrobatics are useful for almost everyone, yeah
turbid dagger
There's an archetype in the book I really like but it's not public knowledge so ...
We've been chatting about Howl stuff a bit here, I won't tell if you won't!
limber comet
Alright, spoilers
surreal basin
Is it the SLUG GUN
limber comet
Yes
surreal basin
:3
limber comet
It's the slug gun
surreal basin
:33333
limber comet
That archetype is so cool
surreal basin
It’s the funniest shit ever
limber comet
Fuckkk
surreal basin
I love it
limber comet
IT'S SO SILLY BUT ALSO SO RAD??
LIKE???
Also Surkis are just my favorite ancestry
I love their design
I love the way they look
I wish we hard more uncommon archetypes like the slug gun
That are like, ancestral archetypes that anybody could learn with training
Similar to the Stalwart Defender from Highhelm
It just adds that bit more to the ancestries
I know a lot of the talk has been about mechanics but god the flavor on these ancestries is so good
surreal basin
solar tendon
whats a slug gun
limber comet
Howl spoilers: ||there's an archetype that gives you a symbiotic magic slug that shoots darts of magic bps, and it originated with surkis. Surkis get access to it easily but I assume you can probably get it on other ancestries with gm approval||
echo briar
whats a slug gun
a shotgun without buckshot
||are the slugs strikes? If so what is its stats||
limber comet
||are the slugs strikes? If so what is its stats||
barren cipher
uh
do they explain why slugs shoot darts
i am not sure that the answer is one everyone will want to know though
sinful gyro
Can't believe we got animorphs and yeerks in the same book
clever cobalt
we got animorphs!?
craggy thunder
What do y’all think are some fun actions for a hybrid weapon user NPC?
hybrid as in a combo weapon?
If so, the trick weapon stuff from bloodborne sounds fun
warped orbit
I've also seen some discussion on the Swarmkeeper archetype on the reddit
it seems pretty interesting as a save based companion effectively AIUI
frank crystal
hybrid as in a combo weapon?
Yah like a gunsword
warped orbit
also I only just noticed that this is effectively a one action save cantrip
scales way slower of course, but that is pretty strong
turbid dagger
It does seem quite nice for a caster, yeah
sinful gyro
we got animorphs!?
Well you can turn from a human into an animal
warped orbit
oh what swarm companion
taken from the reddit
sinful gyro
Wrath of the Rightious flashbacks
warped orbit
it is pretty action intensive, so might be tricky to utilize it much unless you can really AoE some people
though I assume the archeype also has some stuff to build on it
could be good on a Monk, since with Flurry you're mostly fine using only one action on yourself
limber comet
also I only just noticed that this is effectively a one action save cantrip
scal...
At 10th level the ostilli can devour a spell once per day, as long as it only targets you
turbid dagger
Man.....
Fleshwarp Clawdancer is so cool...........
I never thought I'd be marking out for Living Weapon, worst ancestry attack feat ever, so hard till now lol
warped orbit
finally all the ancestry claws have their time to shine 😛
turbid dagger
Yeah! Catfolk even get one single ancestry exclusive feat for it
Before this Lizardfolk were the only dudes who really wanted to use their claw strikes I think
frank crystal
Is there any good way for a merfolk to get a land speed without the level 9 feat?
eager mountain
Is there any good way for a merfolk to get a land speed without the level 9 feat...
wheelchair ?
frank crystal
I thought that just mimics your speed
light gyro
If a GM told me my merfolk's wheelchair only works in water I would Disagree
eager mountain
the example merfolk on the crew literally uses a wheelchair
when not in the water
warped orbit
RAW the chair currently doesn't work
because the other mobility chairs key off your normal speed
eager mountain
how so ?
warped orbit
which is still only 5 ft for Merfolk
presumably the idea is you'd get to the normal 25, but it doesn't technically do that currently
eager mountain
imo, just use thier swim speed as thier land speed when using the chair
its as simple at that
eager mountain
But yeah my whole interpretation of the supramarine chair using a merfolks swim for thier land speed
is becuase it allows a non land creature to exist in a non aquatic adventure.
much like how any assistive item is suposed to allow any differently-abled character to exist in an adventuring setting
turbid dagger
Its plainly obvious thats the intent, yes
All we are saying is that the RAW is worded badly
dapper tusk
i think my biggest peeve with the system might be that Thaumaturge and Oracle are both Charisma casters
"Your power comes from gaining a deeper understanding and insight to the fundamental forces of magic and the universe.
You get stronger from people liking you more."
lofty lake
thaum is the bullshit until you believe it class, charisma makes tons of sense
surreal basin
I mean charisma is also like
Force of will
Like champion also traditionally scales of charisma
dapper tusk
i agree that force of will is what should govern magic for champion and oracle
but
having determination and having leadership are not the same thing
dapper tusk
like i know this isn't a big deal, it just feels like a bizarre flavor fail
charisma might make more sense from the thaumaturge, i struggled to pinpoint what vibe they were going for with it from the class description
eager mountain
i think my biggest peeve with the system might be that Thaumaturge and Oracle ar...
Gotta have charisma to make items believe your a caster
Tho wisdom could have made sense
lofty lake
part of exploit vulnerability is just source: I made it up
eager mountain
Yeah thaums are just throwing out bullshit to see if it works most of the time
turbid dagger
Its not really that
The connection still has to make sense
The example given of a personal antithesis is weakening a tyrant by presenting a broken manacle
You are establishing thematic connections between your esoterica and the bad guy, and empowering that for tangible effect
echo briar
You need charisma because you are literally convincing the universe
The oracle is cha based because literally every spontaneous caster is cha based
Except psychic, which is 1/2 cha based
dapper tusk
The oracle is cha based because literally every spontaneous caster is cha based
...but why
"studying the unknowable transcendental mysteries of the universe" screams wisdom to me more than any other class in the entire game
solar tendon
it does ngl
cha made a lot more sense when like actually figuring out your mystery was kinda optional
itd make them the same stat as cleric but its kinda whatever
echo briar
"studying the unknowable transcendental mysteries of the universe" screams wisdo...
Screams int to me
dapper tusk
also understandable
solar tendon
if a flame oracle used int theyd be like uhhh fire is a chemical process
echo briar
I think it should be con based. It’s hard to survive constantly being on fire or having the vacuum of space inside you
solar tendon
I think we should just get rid of stats
echo briar
I think they should add lancer stats
dapper tusk
i think the only stats should be "car" and "lesbian"
echo briar
IE, combat only stats that help you customize your character without defining then
I think they should just run the stats though a thesaurus
Constitution becomes law
Intelligence becomes wisdom
Alternatively we use Pokemon stats
You should need to breed 30 characters just to get one with low speed IVs
rustic cape
I'm really enjoying Quest for the Frozen Flame
carmine egret
Frankly I think this all just exposes the flimsy definitions of the mental abilities
rustic cape
I think something that helps is if you think of ability scores/attributes not as actual fully diegetic traits of the character
But rather as the ability to live up to an archetype
echo briar
Frankly I think this all just exposes the flimsy definitions of the mental abili...
Come on, quest for the frozen flame isn’t that bad
rustic cape
To be "the strong guy" or "the quick guy" or "the tough guy" or "the smart guy"
Or whatever
Your +4 in Strength is your score in Doing Strong Character Stuff, if that makes sense
So if attributes don't quite make sense, that's okay!
They're narrative conceits
turbid dagger
Real talk I kind of just don't factor the abilities into my character yeah lmao
But rather I design my char around what they can mechanically DO
My Diverse Lore Thaum can recall knowledge on every topic easily
Of course he's smart, who cares that his int mod is -1 cuz he's a skeleton
solar tendon
who needs to be good a memorising things if you have confidence
dapper tusk
They're narrative conceits
that's sort of my issue with oracle being charisma in the first place
"from an early age, i knew there was more to reality than what was visible with the eye...i have spent my life studying transcendental secrets, learning to channel divine power from beyond the gods themselves...
"but my magic is determined by how extroverted i am, not how wise i am"
limber comet
I think oracle should be able to choose between Wis/Cha, like psychic
trail nova
I saw a really cool psychic remake for 1e that had you choices of subclass determine primary and secondary scores, tying them to where you got your powers from. Options included "second mind", "haunted", "drugs" and some others
You also picked a specialty like "emotion manipulator", "telekinetic". Overall, it was a really cool design.
solar storm
I think oracle should be able to choose between Wis/Cha, like psychic
Psychic can't choose wis but I get you in general
trail nova
limber comet
I saw a really cool psychic remake for 1e that had you choices of subclass deter...
I...Don't like the idea of drugs being a psychic subclass, honestly
It feels
Distasteful?
Idk
solar storm
I think it could be interesting but I agree I'm sort of skeptical of a subclass basis for it
limber comet
I'd rather have it be a feat chain or something
Like how it is in Oracles+
But even then
solar storm
I like how drug use is something which a lot of higher end mages in Dungeon Meshi use to cope with the exertions of heavy mana expenditure for example
But its not really a... specific technique
trail nova
I think this is “LSD to unlock the mind”
limber comet
Yeah, even then
dapper tusk
yeah drugs being a tool you sometimes utilize has a very different vibe to drugs being the concept of how your character works
trail nova
Mechanically, it's basically an 1e Alchemist's mutagen.
Or well. Cognotegen or whatever the 1e mental-stat increaser was.
solar tendon
cognitogen ye
trail nova
But like, to me Mutagenist Alchemist already is doing an equivalent sort of "down 'drugs' for benefits."
solar tendon
pretty much
just a bit more witcher and less mkultra
investigators love to chug coffee but caffeine isnt a controlled substance ;P
surreal basin
I kinda want them to bring back some of the weirder giant fellas
sun moon and eclipse giants in particular
limber comet
I really wanna see more of these new dragons
surreal basin
Learned about eclipse giants recently and those motherfuckers are crazy
limber comet
What do they do
surreal basin
basically
during a solar or lunar eclipse
each eclipse giant has a singular skill or ability they become like
worldchangingly good at
surreal basin
their entire lives center around eclipses
they also have an inherent understand of the cyclical nature of liufe
*life
and has an ability called snuff life
it's power word kill using chain lightning target rules
eager mountain
I'm really enjoying Quest for the Frozen Flame
where are you at in frozen flame
I wish my frozen flame game had continued
I was almost done modeling red cat cave
rustic cape
Not very far, we're still just level 2 and fought the southerner woman
My rogue punched her very hard :)
light gyro
call me dunkey the way howl of the wild has me playing an animal well
rustic cape
We've got a character from a homebrew warlord class who can give me extra precision damage, so my rogue has a slight tendency to fist of the north star people
turbid dagger
Does anyone know offhand any cool level 15+ creatures with metastrikes?
Preferably humanoids
azure spear
Is this only PF2?
solar storm
Just mostly pf2
turbid dagger
You can ask PF1 Qs but most folk will not have the knowledge you seek
dapper tusk
where do i go to discuss the official paizo goblin plushies
plucky snow
I have a build concept and I don't know enough about PF2e to tell if it's any good
The idea: Frilled Lizardfolk as a Braggart Swashbuckler. The frills let me Demoralize without needing to speak or share a language, which then generates Panache.
Also, it looks like lizardfolk claws are as good as shortswords? Unless I am reading something wrong.
plucky snow
Can I attack with one if I'm wearing a buckler on that arm?
worthy stump
you have 'em on both arms, so should be fine to just attack with the other one. but uhhh. i don't actually know if you can. should be fine, since a claw's not a weapon you're wielding in that hand, i think
clever cobalt
I think Centaurs are a bit OP
frank crystal
Why?
clever cobalt
They start with two extra feets
frank crystal
Huh why?