she does what shes told!
#Cyberpunk
worldly light
aggressively gesticulates with her cigarette
daring apex
he was the one who saved her after all
worldly light
(If you piss her off she will flick it at you, or extinguish it against you somewhere in the middle of the speech.)
daring apex
nice
cerulean copper
RK is either going to be mildly annoyed by that or is going to be caressing a minor burn depending on where she shoves that cigarette
daring apex
*aggressively gesticulates with her cigarette*
i cant help but put characters in situations with other characters im just imagining murphi sitting palms folded in her lap listening to this rockergirl rant for 20 minutes
just
following with her head like a camera following someone on a stage
full head motion locked on watchinf
worldly light
... Mental image of her reaching her hand out to some random passerby immediately after and he hands her a new cigarette
Is it a waste of s "major favour?" Probably not tbh.
daring apex
the smoker has arrived
cerulean copper
I feel like RK would maybe half listen before realizing that the speech in question is beginning to devolve into a rant
worldly light
You can't tell me she doesn't have a point here
daring apex
no she does
braindances just have a real offputting feel
dont like it
hm
...how much does he pamper her i wonder
worldly light
The Idea is cool but the fact that they
1: can be unwillingly induced.
2: seem to be largely produced with unwilling/uninformed participants
Makes them scary.
Like. The "scans a guy's whole brain and real emotions and feelings" is the creepy part.
daring apex
The Idea is cool but the fact that they
1: can be unwillingly induced.
2: seem t...
well thats the thing like
braindance started as a therapy tool
worldly light
Because they can't be acting they're not really actors.
cerulean copper
I think the fops would agree in a begrudging manner but at the same time he's sometimes not sure if Catherine is bullshitting
worldly light
Catherine going around slowly filling up her "Things/places we need to blow up" list
daring apex
i just realized ambrose's normal employees probably do not get the same treatment as the augmented employees like murphi
for various reasons
namely that they arent horrifically unstable messes dissociating and fracturing under the unending pressure of life in the 2040s
they have families and alcohol probably they can handle their own stress :)
its the augmented employees, the ones that look in the mirror and understand conceptually what a reflection is but have trouble believing thats actually themselves that theyre looking at
theyre the ones that need the care and attention
so quit whinging and get back to your cubicle
daring apex
samurai was like an international hit
cerulean copper
which means this was a few years before RK was even born
daring apex
i mean
johnny silverhand was directly involved in the atomic bombing of a major city
thats like
a generation defining event
cerulean copper
true
cerulean copper
also iirc Samurai did split up
cerulean copper
I think RK might vaguely know something about Samurai since he might've heard a few of Kerry's songs but aside from that, he'd probably be out of the loop
daring apex
like i agree with him on a lot of things but hes also a huge prick
daring apex
like i agree with him on a lot of things but hes also a huge prick
teach murpi the bass for therapy :)
paper yacht
Because they can't be acting they're not *really* actors.
I mean, there are plenty of legal BD movies out there, its not just porn, snuff, and therapy
daring apex
instead of her identity being grounded on an emotional dependency on her manager-handler
paper yacht
So i'd assume there are actors who put on a show and then editors throw in the emotions and feelings in post
worldly light
I bet there's just like. Weird ass BD nature documentaries.
cerulean copper
imagine doing a BD through the eyes of a pigeon or something lmao
daring apex
I bet there's just like. Weird ass BD nature documentaries.
as if theres any nature left to document
worldly light
There is!
paper yacht
I bet there's just like. Weird ass BD nature documentaries.
One of those outside cat bodycam videos but with a BD wreath instead
paper yacht
I mean Arasaka has an anti-poaching orbital laser
cerulean copper
but yeah just thinking of RK accidentally offending Catherine by not really knowing who Johnny is (aside from "guy that went into the tower and never came back out")
worldly light
I mean she wouldn't care.
She admires the fuckin gall and the pizzaz but she's not like. A psycho-fan.
She would think less of RK tho.
paper yacht
I could see Daniel having Samurai playing in his clinic tbh
But he's no psychofan
Just likes the music
worldly light
Not offended just... "Wow! A moron." Internally.
cerulean copper
RK knows how to beat a bucket for some tunes but he doesn't know his Rockers :)
at all
worldly light
— "Nobody gets It. They think it's about the music. It never was. You don't blow up Arasaka tower just to be famous."
daring apex
i really want to know what catherine would think of ambrose because i feel like she'd just kill him
worldly light
What's up with Ambrose? Murphi's handler?
cerulean copper
also I kinda imagine RK picked up drumming because it's really easy to just get a bucket and a stick
worldly light
If yes, them probably.
daring apex
What's up with Ambrose? Murphi's handler?
yup!
worldly light
The "Kill them with your bare hands if you have to" across her jacket is mostly about corpos so... It's just the way the cookie crumbles..
daring apex
hes the one who uhhh offered murps the position she has now
when she had everything taken from her by way of being framed for corruption by her precinct
daring apex
The "Kill them with your bare hands if you have to" across her jacket is mostly ...
he probably deserves it anyways i doubt someone like that is uhhh
yknow all that caring about the common man
he cares for his tools more than he cares for the average person
worldly light
I'd give Catherine Big knucks, cause they take less humanity but they aren't flashy and she's all about that stuff...
cerulean copper
just put some LEDs in those things
worldly light
So sadly she needs to get her brain scrambled by mantis blades
She'll get better eventually probably.
glass violet
Gnite!
I'm sure these blorbos will be so okay
Daniel can totally therapy them all to being okay on his own this will have no repercussions on anyone
paper yacht
I'm sure these blorbos will be so okay
Daniel can totally therapy them all to be...
(:
I mean, to be fair, it's only cyberpsycho therapy that he knows how to do, he wouldn't be able to treat your depression
also, in 2045, the materials to conduct cyberpsycho therapy is almost entirely controlled by Biotechnica
so that can only end well for Ember (:
worldly light
She'll get better eventually probably.
I think killing her old band members would help.
This is actually not even a joke.
"Revenge against someone who's wronged you" gives you back humanity.
... Realisingn Catherine would not do therapy.
worldly light
Huh, you can be immune to quick hacks.
daring apex
So sadly she needs to get her brain scrambled by mantis blades
classic
daring apex
"Revenge against someone who's wronged you" gives you back humanity.
wheres this?
daring apex
I mean, to be fair, it's only cyberpsycho therapy that he knows how to do, he wo...
auh
cerulean copper
wheres this?
I think it's in lifestyle?
daring apex
hm
worldly light
wheres this?
It might be just in EdgeRunner mission pack
Also btw Quick hacks are balanced actually.
You have to have a neuroport, which is a significantly beefed up combination cyberware' to be vulnerable to them.
So if you just go "old school" and grab all that stuff separately, it costs more money and humanity, but you are literally unhackable.
daring apex
:)
cerulean copper
RK when his hardware is too old for quickhacks
worldly light
Ol' reliable.
cerulean copper
He just gets stared at aggressively and he's unaware of the fact someone is trying to hit him with the suicide quickhack
glass violet
Thats 2070s tech tho right?
cerulean copper
Ye
daring apex
yeah it could be taken as like
earlier models of 2077 stuff
that most people dont have
worldly light
You can make Techies invent stuff. :v
daring apex
because it costs 100 billionty million dollars
daring apex
...i think murps will be on old tech for now
worldly light
Thats 2070s tech tho right?
The book does suggest you use them regardless, but neuroports, and by extension quick hacks, would probably indeed by restricted to corpo folks.
They are super good for Netrunners tho.
Like the boost to the range? Deranged.
daring apex
...i think murps will be on old tech for now
see the main reason is im tryin to figure out how id like
im tryin to remember what came from what money
worldly light
F
The way I see it, mantis blades absolutely belong in the core.
Gorilla arms and Monowire would be better served as sorta unique quest rewards.
So would the rest of the stuff tbh
Like doing special work for Techies and fixers.
((mostly because The Mantis blades are kind of on the low end compared to the rest of the stuff which significantly power creeps the core book))
daring apex
og yeah uhhhh
interface red vol3 has a neat bit for multiclassing ideas
here, even better its free from r talsorian
collecting the random was a neat lil free bit
i love stuff like this no lie
glass violet
earlier models of 2077 stuff
Yeah was thinking of maybe giving Ember a like, early model berserk module as like, the experimental thingy she got brought on to test
worldly light
Berserker model is fun because yeah you don't get the downsides as significantly, but you're still dying so it's not super OP.
Also! Lore for Cathy!
Has formed.
Ex corpo "idol"
daring apex
interesting...
worldly light
Soo tempted to drop the arm and give her a fancy katana...
But I kinda like the arm thing.
daring apex
Sounds like you need the explicit memory stimulator™️
i hear those conjure fake memories meant to make you like the corps
worldly light
Kerez fucks you up more.
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worldly light
Cause it's always active
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yaya
but you see
im also a hopeless contrarian and the sandevistan had a prominent feature in the funny cyberpunk anime so im contractually required to be biased against it
...i might go for it tbh
hm wondering
which skill would you want someone to roll for to shoulder check a door open
just rip the latch out through impact
brawling or athletics maybe?
or is that a body check
probably body
hum....
same price
daring apex
Yeah was thinking of maybe giving Ember a like, early model berserk module as li...
ember should get funny cloaking field tbh
i dont think red has those though
worldly light
im also a hopeless contrarian and the sandevistan had a prominent feature in the...
I mean I personally feel like Kerez might be better or worse depending on the DM.
daring apex
true
worldly light
If you get Into combat often, Kerez is better. If the combats are more spaced out, you're better off with a sandy, for less humanity downside, and a slightly bigger bonus.
worldly light
brawling or athletics maybe?
Athletics, but based off of body instead of Dex.. Brawling if you've got body of 10 or above, since then you can bash doors and other kinds of cover down with your bare hands.
worldly light
((note that stat substitution is a thing I do, I don't know if it's supported in the base material anywhere
worldly light
Fully RAW, you'd have to make attacks against the door
And if you don't meet prerequisites, (enough body, or cyberarm) you need a weapon.
glass violet
ember should get funny cloaking field tbh
Active camo would be exactly her thing but yeah iunno if that's a thing yet
daring apex
itd be cool though....
glass violet
Could also cook up like an experimental one tbh
Seems less fucked up than a berserker implant tbh
worldly light
Active camo would be exactly her thing but yeah iunno if that's a thing yet
It is!
It's in Interface part 3
But it is um...
You have to stay immobile for it to kick in, and then move slowly or it shuts off.
Aaand it can only be applied to FBC's.
worldly light
I'm sure a cool GM would just permit it on a meatbag
It's not particularly game breaking.
glass violet
Aaand it can only be applied to FBC's.
yeah maybe Ember's can be an experimental one that works on non-fbc's but is like, finnicky or has some side effects or something
cerulean copper
damn only 7 humanity?
Installing it three times is 21 humanity though if you wanna make the best of it
Since 20 rounds is a lot of time to get fucked up
daring apex
mhm
worldly light
It's moreso for ambushing
crystal urchin
yeah its very much narrative stealth
especially since youre limited to basically walking speed
worldly light
Brisk stroll
worldly light
Also! Lore for Cathy!
Being evil.
Giving her a purely narrative cyberarm (labeled as a "medical replacement")
And handing her a big ass katana
paper yacht
i cyberfied another lancer blorbo
turned my silly little UIB agent into a Fixer :3
his name is Indigo Brown because his parents thought they were so fucking clever, and he grew up in the affluent suburbs to middle-manager parents who worked for Zetatech, until they got kicked out of the corp because they uncovered a plot by a higher-up to assassinate a union leader (as in a trade union)
worldly light
Cat is Former Sanroo affiliated performer.
paper yacht
However, while he certainly is bummed about his family now living in a shipping crate instead of a comfy suburb, he found that the skills you get from corpo-skullduggery translate rather well to being a fixer; being one of the rare few to actually go out into the field himself, being kinda half fixer half spy for hire
worldly light
She skipped after the arm incident.
paper yacht
does sanroo have performers? i thought they were just a sanrio parody
worldly light
They have mercs, mostly.
But so am super sure with the way they do advertising they would have no problems funding a cutesy little band as long as they push product.
daring apex
And handing her a big ass katana
:)
daring apex
But so am super sure with the way they do advertising they would have no problem...
oh just the most saccharine slop possible?
paper yacht
HE LOOKS AT ME NO MATTER WHERE I GO
he's watching (:
daring apex
are you ok maam
glass violet
are you ok maam
me after one (1) spicy chip
hollow bronze
tropped
worldly light
Yesterday I stealth killed a ganger and he just... Didn't realise he was dead
He was standing there, headless and lootable
hollow bronze
Chat should I reinstall 2077?
worldly light
Yesterday I stealth killed a ganger and he just... Didn't realise he was dead
This keeps happening lmao.
Sometimes when there's a lot going on you can kill an enemy, but the ragdoll doesn't engage so the corpse stays in their Idle
daring apex
Chat should I reinstall 2077?
yea
daring apex
He was standing there, headless and lootable
that one chicken
i kinda love that its still just weird and messy like that
also i love the stealth overhead kills you can do
worldly light
"Headless and lootable."
The new fad.
daring apex
2077 has a shard you can find that has a bit from some Media about following soldiers in combat and seeing one of them scrolling a BD during the battle
about how they could probably find that exact bd within like a few days of having seen that, edited to show off the logo on the gun and make you wanna buy it
and about how the very concept of empathy has kinda just vanished from the culture
worldly light
I should write her backstoryyy
daring apex
and about how the very concept of empathy has kinda just vanished from the cultu...
i should read more of the shards the game has laying around cause that one really hit
real simple and effective
daring apex
i like it
worldly light
Mm... Catherine killed her old drummer in self defence.
daring apex
was the drummer tryna kill her or somethin
worldly light
Yeah it was a big profile band, so what.
We caught a contract with Sanroo... you know, the cutesy pink motherfuckers.
Thought we grabbed God by the fucking feet. Yeah you couldn't swear, or drink on camera, and had to wear pink, but hell if the pay did seem worth it...
Emily... the drummer... She was very annoyed by the limitations, she made a joke that she's gonna do something "nasty" next concert, and it didn't even take two hours.
It was like a switch. One second she was talking to me, and then she's shaking and her eyes roll back, like she was getting jolted. They wrote it off as a Cyberpsycho incident, but those don't just suddenly go violent for no reason, and she lunged at me, growling like some animal, and wrapped that fucked up combat jaw around my shoulder... I had to...
Her sister still blames me for it. She thinks I went and killed her for no reason.
Well... Doesn't help that the same week I dropped off the face of the earth. I got my insides fuckin' microwaved, and let some shady butcher rip out the neural link, and some other shit out of me without anesthesia while the whole thing was shut' down. Miserable experience I tell you.```^ beh
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my word
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@glass violet
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||https://youtu.be/wBCA4n9mExE?si=9RJGayWLVRxQ8DJa||
CW: weird paparazzi stalking, gore
Media
worldly light
Essentially
The same way she doesn't believe the drummer went "legitimately" Cyberpsycho, and that it was induced by the corporation, for being "too much of a risk to the public image"
The Main vocalist, (twins! With the drummer!) believes her sister did not go psycho and Catherine just tried to kill her for some unknown reason, then blamed it on a cyberpsychosis event.
((notably the Cyberpsychosis is the corpo's version of events))
worldly light
The sleeper.
worldly light
Mmm... More Miriam lore
daring apex
muppy with a shitty company car
im talkin like
goddamn
i think she deserves a lame shitty company car
paper yacht
daring apex
whos this
daring apex
theyd get along with mr attwater
paper yacht
Former corpo whose family got booted from the company for leaking a plot to assassinate trade unionists to the media
Though he's a corpo no more, his old lifestyle translates very well into being a fixer
paper yacht
I'd argue Indigo isnt as like. Deceitful with it
He isn't being super manipulative to his contacts, he's pretty clear about what is a business relationship and when he actually, genuinely cares for someone beyond what they bring to him
daring apex
interesting...
cerulean copper
Media/Exec is called the Propagandist
worldly light
Lmao.
It would not work on Miriam.
Woman who is 100% ready to kill a fixer at the drop of a hat.
"you shouldn't..."
"They shouldn't treat me like fodder then"
paper yacht
"you shouldn't..."
"They shouldn't treat me like fodder then"
i mean, killing a fixer is a good way to basically be locked out of business in NC for the rest of your life
no one wants to work with someone willing to off their fixer
daring apex
what if their fixer sucks ass
paper yacht
take no chances
unless they go after you first, better off not offing a fixer. it's bad for business
worldly light
unless they go after you first, better off not offing a fixer. it's bad for busi...
That's the thing. She's just ready/expects the fixer to try and fuck her over at any moment.
Woman with a backup plan always.
How can you prove it was her
hollow bronze
I don't think the crime has to exactly be proven beyond reasonable doubt, especially if her rep is shit to starrt with
worldly light
She has the rep of a cheap, Desperate "hammer" with good skills that you can hire for basically anything and she will almost never turn down a job so...
daring apex
making ambrose
randomgen
cerulean copper
Turtle guy...
paper yacht
making ambrose
randomgen
that one ex cop neighbor in 2077
glass violet
I think she's more referring to muppy
paper yacht
(i know :3)
daring apex
I think she's more referring to muppy
yes
daring apex
that one ex cop neighbor in 2077
but yeah i remember
ancient nest
Whats this from?
paper yacht
He hears you (:
worldly light
Who him be
paper yacht
If you really want your mainline to spill his guts, you gotta make him cut *himself* open. Build rapport. Make him think you're his friend. Make him think you're on his side. You don't need to grill him; he'll jump right into that skillet himself, and the information scop-burger he cooks you will be a lot more accurate than if you just ripped the goods out of him.```
paper yacht
Who him be
Indigo Brown, my Lancer UIB agent, who I punkified into an information broker Fixer :3c
worldly light
Lmao. Would "work" on LightShow (she will tell anybody anything at the drop of a hat, she's a walking manifesto)
Would not work on Miriam "I don't chat. Tell me a problem and a price and I'll tell you if I can fix it."
paper yacht
Also has a bunch of memory chips that he loads his recorded audio onto :3
He's just as much a spy as much as he is a fixer
Twink james bond
worldly light
"I know one thing about fixers. They like you as far as they can use you. And one day you'll be more useful as a fall guy than a contact. You don't make friends with those people."
People who get into conversations on the fucking stairs, or right on the bottom/top of them my beloathed.
worldly light
I am trying to navigate I got my headphones on, they are harshing my vibe.
paper yacht
"If there's one thing you learn about mercs in this business - keep them on a tight leash. They've killed more people than they could count. They got bigger guns than you, better 'ware. You have to keep a close eye on them, control them without so much as even threatening them - as long as they get results, keep the gigs flowing, and most importantly, don't even think about double-crossing them. You don't want an angry merc with nothing left to lose gunning for your head. You aren't winning that fight, promise you that much. Mercs are an asset - you gotta take care of them."
daring apex
He hears you (:
kerenzikov....
paper yacht
kerenzikov....
Fast :3
paper yacht
He hears everything (:
glass violet
bro why u so ears
glass violet
muppy is kinda in stasis right now
freeze-dried mippy
glass violet
murpi jam...
glass violet
she will be part of a balanced breakfast
daring apex
if you consider kvass to be part of a balanced breakfast yeah
glass violet
kvass?
glass violet
oh gotchya
worldly light
I think Nomad's are so cool...
The books suggest pissing off nomads might be even worse for you than pissing off the corpo's and I think that's a fun Idea
daring apex
interesting...
i mean honestly i can kinda see it
nomad families are like corps where the people actually like each other
worldly light
The given example is that the standard punishment for a rapist isn't a bullet to the head, like it is in case with city Law Enforcement
It's to tie them to a truck by the privates and keep on driving.
cerulean copper
I would also like to note
That Nomads (unlike corpos) can and will chase you to the ends of the earth if you piss them off
And nowhere is safe because they practically dominate all forms of travel
halcyon violet
Restarting my cyberpunk game
Seems like it's gonna be our intrepid Netrunner joined by a Rockerboy and Nomad
halcyon violet
Also I realized
Johnny got all of his fans to riot outside Arasaka tower
a place he was about to nuke
what a fucking shithead
crystal urchin
no, those are two separate events 5 years apart
the first raid on arasaka tower was his attempt to save Alt after she was kidnapped. the second raid was during the 4th Corporate War at the backing of the US Government and Militech (which hadn't yet fully fused)
crystal urchin
yeah, like how he omits the two other strike teams on the raid and all the militech forces fighting in the city and the entire context of the war itself and the existence of Blackhand and-
halcyon violet
He did definitely get some of his fans killed though right
sleek apex
It's hard to avoid a Rockerboy getting fans killed when their primary role ability is 'have your fans riot'
okay th eprimary use is getting favors but in most games I've seen those favors are almost always 'do a crime that could get you killed, but you'll do it because you love me'
cerulean copper
Rockerboys are just modern day influencers
versed grotto
He did definitely get some of his fans killed though right
They got mulched by arasaka security yes
worldly light
I mean that's kinda what happens when you riot.
halcyon violet
So
I've thankfully got a line up into this conspiracy with the nomad
since "A nomad group has an important piece of Zetatech tech you need" was already a plot point
so their intro is just going to be a Mad Max raid
daring apex
They got mulched by arasaka security yes
hollow bronze
that seems more mob favored than I'd expect...
sleek apex
Not that I have personal experience with this sort of thing but numbers matter a lot, and being outnumbered five to one is a pretty big deal when the 5s are likely almost as well armed as you, just less well armored
halcyon violet
The tower being a regular office tower is fucking killing me tho
Wait what the fuck
Chomba???
sleek apex
Presumably the editors missed the missing o
halcyon violet
Chomba sounds like an app you'd have to get today
hot rain
chomba has it for you
sleek apex
Chomba would be like a dating app but for general friend groups
it tries to set up meets with a bunch of lonely nerds who can only find companionship through the internet
leaden trout
Chomba???
Its slang, it goes Choombatta - Choomba - Choom for how it evolved in the series
halcyon violet
No I know
leaden trout
Ah
leaden trout
It’s a misspelling there
Or maybe they changed how they spelled it, not sure actually
blissful dust
chōmba
steady bluff
If we're talking about slang it annoys me how cyberpunk 2077 changed output and input.
worldly light
It makes no sense
leaden trout
If we're talking about slang it annoys me how cyberpunk 2077 changed output and ...
Honestly I’d be more surprised if slang didn’t evolve over 50-30 years
steady bluff
Slang evolves yes but it rarely completely flips meanings.
worldly light
It still makes no sense to flip it I think? But also I never liked this slang regardless. It fits the world but like. Bleh anyways.
worldly light
oh there's a new chapter of Interface.
vale basin
It's the Interface With The Martial Arts.
Which ones? Yes.
worldly light
Nice-a
halcyon violet
So
Cyberpunk is starting up again
my goal is gonna be to do 1-2 solo sessions for the new players
The Nomad I'm doing a convoy they're in being raided, with it going to be a piece of Zetatech gear that they'll need later being stolen
And I think the Rockergirl is going to get fucked up by the Tyger Claws
night crag
hell yeah
night crag
And I think the Rockergirl is going to get fucked up by the Tyger Claws
wait that's bad
night crag
The Nomad I'm doing a convoy they're in being raided, with it going to be a piec...
and so is that
hell yeah!!!!
halcyon violet
I have to match the vibe of the other player who was in a club exploding
night crag
fuck yes
dim pond
Idly wondering if there are any Exotics in Maxtac
Given the high Humanity cost of going Exotic, and Maxtac's tendency to recruit cyberpyschos
halcyon violet
Probably
Though I think part of the rehabilitation of Cyberpsychos is probably like
"Maybe reign it in on the cybernetics"
dim pond
Fair
sleek apex
Exotics are (as long as they go thorugh the whole program) much less likely to go cyberpsycho, given the only human loss they suffer is the reduciton to max humanity from the implants. Some of them don't even have that many implants. Demoniques, Dwarvish, Orcish and Ogrish forms all only lose 12-14 humanity. Now, that's not to say they can't go psycho, or can't get even more implants and push themselves past the edge, but I find it less likely for exotics (again, that did the whole program) to go cyberpsycho compared topeople who got fully chromed on the streets with no psychological care. If they left midway through, all bets off; additionally I don't think maxtac would make exotics de-furrify themselves as long as they can be the controllable sort of cyberpsycho they prefer to have on the payroll, but that probably goes for anyone they recruit; it'd be like recruiting a full borg then telling them they have to get a meat body again. They'd probably just flatline the recruit at tha tpoint.
worldly light
You kinda can't get a meat body back IIRC.
At least rules wise.
The best you get is a Gemini spare body.
versed grotto
I think theoretically you could clone a new meat body and get some probably fairly invasive surgery to transplant your biopod into a meaty shell but otherwise yeah
worldly light
That's probably like... High ranking Exec shit tho
turbid fjord
it's be like a meatborg
night crag
they called me a "meatborg" back in high school
tame silo
Love that morkborg hack
versed grotto
yeah you end up being a meatborg rather than a human again
turbid fjord
Oh right! I was going to watch a ttrpg let's play run by Mr. Pondsmith but I keep on not having time
halcyon violet
Man
I really hope the token art for the Cyberpunk Foundry add-on isn't AI
it really feels like it
vale basin
Which one?
turbid fjord
I really hope the token art for the Cyberpunk Foundry add-on isn't AI
Would Mike have control over if they did do that or no?
vale basin
Two things
- There is no official Cyberpunk RED system for Foundry.
- The unofficial CP:RED system for Foundry has no Token art. All the icons are sourced and credited in the module's GitLab: https://gitlab.com/cyberpunk-red-team/fvtt-cyberpunk-red-core/-/blob/master/CREDITS.md, so it can't be that one.
So, hence, my question: Which one?
halcyon violet
Two things
1) There is no official Cyberpunk RED system for Foundry.
2) The unof...
This one
vale basin
Uh huh.
Again, not official.
And the author of the Mook Pack has no qualms with using Midjourney for some of its images, so I'd say it's very likely the Mook Pack also features genned imagery.
toxic lake
vale basin
Fr though
I installed that Mook Pack and tried using it in a couple of my games.
I think it's okay in terms of having a bunch of pregens, but it also loses a lot of the flexibility that comes from making your own mooks or re-flavoring the ones in the books. Also: the mook pack also has, like, "Faction Abilities" which I never used, and skill spreads that made many of the mooks deadlier than the baseline ones in the books.
So looking at all that, I can say with confidence, you're better off making your own Mooks. I only wish it was easier than it is with the current CP RED foundry system... It ain't exactly straightforward nor easy in any way.
halcyon violet
We've had the first big RP session of the game
and it was so much fun
Things added to the world via bits:
Pizza delivery drivers are being hunted by the Noid and thus the ones in Watson are possessed of Wick-level gunmanship
There's a band called Fuck Palace that performs in a three people mech they somehow fuck live on stage in
leaden trout
Better avoid the Noid
halcyon violet
We've yet to decide if the Noid is a single cyberpsycho, or a gang
leaden trout
Honestly I would not be surprised by either option
I’d guess one guy just based on the commercials, but it could also be a group
I guess you’d have to see if there are any time where two pizza guys were attacked at once or if they all are spaced out enough for it to be one very dedicated guy
halcyon violet
Also
Funnily enough
the party is
Vex
Lux
and Cross
meaning the party is now XXX
hot rain
now theres a theme
halcyon violet
Completely independently of each other
tame silo
We've yet to decide if the Noid is a single cyberpsycho, or a gang
It's definitely funnier if it's just one guy, to the pizza delivery driver what the predator was to Arnie
halcyon violet
The idea of it being
THAT specific pizza delivery driver
just being SPECIFICALLY hunted
our one player cemented it by saying "Is this like a Trix rabbit situation?"
tame silo
In Night City, Trix are no longer for kids...
sleek apex
Ozob is pretty explicilty a Bozo given the guy who's character he is was a Bozo, but the gang itself is likely no more
(Ozob is based on the PC of a guy from brazil who ran a CP2013/2020 fansite for a long, long time.)
turbid fjord
Pizza delivery drivers are being hunted by the Noid and thus the ones in Watson ...
Noid daemon
karmic valley
worthy snow
The GM of the game I was in in Cyberpunk RED last year and the year before- which they set in 2079- elected to have the Bozos have returned to existence
Which meant the players in the game at one point got jumpscared by a seven-foot-tall battle hammer-wielding clown hiding in a closet in an apartment (and then his gaggle of heavily armed pals in the hallway outside) while clown core music played on the VTT
halcyon violet
My game is set in 2080 yeah
turbid fjord
I'm going to have a session 0 next month for first IRL game
Going to make a solo that melee's who has the dream to open a bar/venue named The Crypt
worldly light
No, they only increase minimal unarmed damage and allow you to deal unarmed damage to certain objects
((the first part is usually not very useful, considering Body is one of the only attributes you can increase))
halcyon violet
Wait you can increase Body?
hot rain
its the uhhhhh muscle replacement cyberware, i forget the name
hot rain
RIGHT, these bones are laced
worldly light
Also the frames.
halcyon violet
I should look out for an artist that can draw my cyberpunk party
There was someone I was gonna contact but then I found out they were apparently a big plagerist
which was a Wild Thing To Find Out Incidentally
night crag
There was someone I was gonna contact but then I found out they were apparently ...
plagiarist
vale basin
non non
Plaguerist
As in, a creator and spreader of plagues
strange forge
question for Cyberpunk RED:
if someone has the sandevistan equipped, does the bonus apply when the player rolls for initiative, or it needs to be activated first?
afaik it's neuralware, so it should activate automatically, thus giving the bonus already to the initiative roll, but I don't know the precise interaction
halcyon violet
question for Cyberpunk RED:
if someone has the sandevistan equipped, does the bo...
worldly light
Soeedware is just a specific kind of Neuralware.
There are 2 in the system, 3 if you count edgerunners expansion (Personally, I do not, because it's so violently different)
halcyon violet
Players did a murder tonight
Murdered an 18 year old Tyger Claw gunman
This has been such a fun game
toxic lake
boss you've killed a child--OUTSTANDING, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE THE BEST
night crag
Murdered an 18 year old Tyger Claw gunman
crazy
halcyon violet
The Tyger Claw gunned down a Piranha DJ in his own house first
So y'know it's just Brutal Gang Warfare
halcyon violet
I still need to come up with a name for this Zetatech assassin
hot rain
Milargro Obstein
?
halcyon violet
where did you grab that from
hot rain
got that one off of myself, in case it sounded like it fit
halcyon violet
I might genuinely keep Obstein, but Milargro feels a bit off
hot rain
mhm mhm
right, that was me misremembering how milagro man is spelt
Don't precisely know the vibe of this particular assassin, so names may be a bit off target from me
Could go the gundam route of naming them something close to, but not actually a name, like Clency
halcyon violet
His vibe is that he looked at Adam Smasher and went "I could top that"
"Smasher had two things that made him a legend. Ambition, and creativity!"
"Ambition to look at your own body and ask 'how can I do better?' Creativity to look at some future victim and ask the same fucking thing"
Currently the party's convinced that the attack on Lizzie's Bar was a squad
what they don't know is that it was just This Guy
who snuck in, planted a bomb, blew the server room, assassinated two people, and then got out unseen in less than 5 minutes
halcyon violet
Yeah
He's gonna be the heavy of the campaign
since the Zetatech CEO who's creating a fully independent AGI is the main antagonist
They are totally getting to the point in the campaign where I should really
think of all the major NPCs
and name and stat and etc them
hot rain
hm. hmm. Redd Eminence? and name the CEO louis
Rent-A-Smasher has absolutely got to be a stereotype in the Night City edgerunner community right
halcyon violet
Rent a (legend) is a common tropes i imagine
However im giving him David's sandevestan
hot rain
everyone comes dressing up in your outfit when you've got big enough shoes
Aha i think i read that in the 2077 kit
that is a mean piece of gear
halcyon violet
Reason this guy is gonna be so dangerous is that he kinda just can't go cyberpsycho
He's just built different
hot rain
Got another lottery winner
halcyon violet
Incredibly psychologically stable individual who just so happens to like murdering people
With cool guns
hot rain
One of these days i do want to take my Solo with no ware out for a spin again, person who somehow missed the last century (and a half?). them or the other solo i have around, who's pretty much the Predator but he doesn't really know what's going on. Had him briefly in a lilah game
halcyon violet
Our nomad has no chrome but a neuroport
Which btw
Telepathy being an inherent player trait
Is such a weird thing in game
halcyon violet
I also need to design the main Tyger Claw antag
Which really means which Yakuza villain am I gonna turn into an npc
hot rain
difficult choice to choose just one
halcyon violet
I might just do the Yakuza 0 captains
halcyon violet
Is it in bad taste if I recreate the saints row the third trailer at a Piranha party
Cuz I think this trailer still fucks
turbid fjord
karmic valley
i really wanted to run something in the cyberpunk universe but the crunchy part is what stops me....
halcyon violet
It's a relatively easy crunch if you can get enough NPCs pre-made for it
also lmao
the new DLC for Red is just "add Blades in the Dark"
leaden trout
<:vicksyHmm:996566512431288390> i really wanted to run something in the cyberpu...
Embrace it, let it flow through you, make your players have their trip to the corner store get interrupted by a holdup while in the chips aisle, it’ll be fun
turbid fjord
You have to engage in the DM's time honored tradition behind the screen. Making things up
toxic lake
the new DLC for Red is just "add Blades in the Dark"
I'm very interested in picking James's brain about this one because prior to now part of Cyberpunk's identity has been about trying to be much more representational/simulationist than Blades's proceduralism...
brazen sentinel
Embrace it, let it flow through you, make your players have their trip to the co...
yeah you kinda gotta want the crunch. bc the crunch is part of the food!! the texture of playing cyberpunk is going "oh fuck g-d dammit" when the brady kids try to shake you down for your eddies.
worldly light
I kinda vibe with how one of the balance parts is how much money each profession can earn while in downtime.
But on the other hand some of it doesn't make a lick a sense smh
hexed violet
Medtech making the most money makes a bit of sense.
But I could see a corporate wage slave being able to cut it close in earnings.
worthy snow
Medtech does get a bit wild
toxic lake
I'm very interested in picking James's brain about this one because prior to now...
:x lol the answer is this is not a James idea and J loves Blades and Flashbacks as a whole
Medtech is 100% a powergaming class, I love it
worthy snow
The one time I played in a Cyberpunk campaign I ran an ex-Trauma Team medtech and was at a few times in the game the party's main earner besides whole entire gigs
(it turns out letting your medtech burn herself out harvesting 'ware from dead gangers and then reselling the cyberware through a fixer you know is a solid way to double-dip on profits from gigs)
halcyon violet
Ah, the Scav-strat
crystal urchin
its eco-friendly!
sleek apex
I mean if they're already dead it's not like they're using it
halcyon violet
They aren't using their organs either but people take offense if you klep those
crystal urchin
mostly cus you dont need to these days
brazen sentinel
do they take offense bc im pretty sure rolling a guy for his organs is like. 20% of all crime that happens in night city on a daily basis
halcyon violet
Its implied its why David's mom suddenly died even
Since you go to that clinic in game and its a Scav organ harvesting operation
worthy snow
Listen my medtech in that campaign was a very nice, sweet gal for NC at the start, despite everything
Then the campaign happened and by act two of it she was violently murderous towards a specific set of corpos, angst-filled from discovering her former fiance thought dead was in fact in Arasaka custody for years, and that she and her group had been stuffed with killswitches and made to work for the bastards she was wanting violent vengeance on
Hell, her arc even was mirrored mechanically
Went from only some minor cosmetic cyberware to basically being half-metal
cerulean copper
Its implied its why David's mom suddenly died even
Wasn't his mom working for meatwagon or something
crystal urchin
yeah
turbid fjord
I got a rockerboy who's parents removed his eyes during a performance
finite scarab
HELL YEAH
brazen sentinel
hiiii choomfies
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1DFTkXucb8UirtBJdBuFTh79FXrK-SoY&ll=47.54360155331851%2C-122.24448645837182&z=11
here's seattle circa 20XX (i am indescisive and don't care to actually delinaite when in the timeline my game is happening)
crystal urchin
its "In The Future", thats good enough
shut patrol
I should revisit my arasaka underground sewer machine girl killer vampire High school girls idea again
Sorry, militech wuxia vampires
And arasaka machine girl killer high school students
i did like two sessions for it and then couldn't manage foundry
it was based on Alice in wonderland as well
finite scarab
Of course it was
shut patrol
Of course it was
the main fixer I use for my cyberpunk campaigns is the white rabbit who literally just never appears in the campaign but instead sends body sculpted bunnygirls to act as puppets
can't get assassinated if nobody knows what you look like after all
Lemme find the profile I had written up for her
shut patrol
Of course it was
you always have to have weirdo eccentric lesbian fixers
its i the rules
i love making my fixers weird eccentrics, i think it just helps them stand out
my other mainstay fixer is Mr. Gucci
finite scarab
What's that ones gimmivk?
shut patrol
What's that ones gimmivk?
He wears exclusively de luxe brands including Gucci chrome but always needs a loan
he's called Mr Gucci both because of this and because hes guccid down to the chrome and needs 4 eddies
brazen sentinel
See I used The Count, who is an old as fuck man dressed like Dracula, with his chipware bristling like axolotl gills. He’s having six conversations at once while a blue bitch wit eight mouths is blowing him, this shit ain’t nothin.
the joke is obvious but we take those
leaden trout
Look, Mr. Flow would just fit in perfectly in Night City, it’s undeniable
toxic lake
hiiii choomfies
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1DFTkXucb8UirtBJdBuFT...
Holy shit! Is this new?? God I gotta do this for Cincy
brazen sentinel
Holy shit! Is this new?? God I gotta do this for Cincy
“Make your own map” is a very funny google service
karmic valley
ok soooo
if i want to run this game in person...what would be the essentials? npc and character tokens i imagine....something for the battle maps....what else?
toxic lake
Lot of spare D10s and D6s
I had some twine I used to help trace lines of sight
Print out the ranged attack table
Copy of the skill list
Page of descriptions for what all the cyberware on your NPCs does
toxic lake
Print out the ranged attack table
Oh and the autofire table
karmic valley
got the dice already thankfully!
toxic lake
From an interview with one of the devs I also got this: run your first 8 sessions as episodic oneshots, you'll have figured out the characters, what the players want, and tbh you'll have filtered out any flakey players by then. Then you can start a more serialized or interconnected story.
I think 8 is kind of high personally tho!
toxic lake
And that is if you can actually schedule 8 weekly oneshots in a row lmao
pale tide
About to run 2020 fo the first time in an... eternity, piecing together ads and stuff accordingly
brazen sentinel
Hell yeah babe. Put them screamsheets together
pale tide
Mmmhm, assembling ads piecemeal to toss as flyers, emails, all that sorta fun stuff; reusing some from campaigns that happened a while ago since hey, these players haven't seen those ads for themselves 
And I'm, of course, making some of them horrifically cursed
pale tide
Oh boy! I forgot that the Foundry sheet for 2020 is actually unusable and that I gotta dig around for fillable sheets
(This isn't even meant as a dig, I mean it's genuinely unusable- if you try editing skills at all it'll bug out and cause them to give an error)
pale tide
Feeling a bit more of the juice coming back, gonna be running a couple of basic gigs before launching them into Land of the Free, that one old 2020 module
heady rover
GOD I'd love to play 2020. I thought about DMing it for awhile but DMing a system ive never played feels really daunting
brazen sentinel
hrmmnn! could go grab some old prewritten jobs!
put you friends to work for johnny
leaden trout
Yeah, prewritten scenarios are there for a reason
I love scenarios, people should feel no shame in using them
pale tide
MMhm!
I've run plenty of pre-writtens, they can be hit or miss but they can help ground you in a new system!
And even then you don't need to run a whole module, you can just find like a 5 page job to borrow from
toxic lake
So I picked up the 2077 mission kit and I like the pregens and stuff but like
Why would I ever get a neuroport?
I feel like vulnerability to hacking outweighs the neuroware slots
halcyon violet
Because society is built around having it, and your parents assumedly get you one when youre young
Since its needed for most schools
toxic lake
But mechanically
halcyon violet
When Neuroports are a thing, they're basically required for most cybernetic augments
toxic lake
Hang on lemme look and see if they're literally required
Free Interface plug, that's it
Free neuralware option slots are good
But importantly you don't need it for like, limbs or whatever
shut patrol
well, you sort of need virtu and holophone to function in night city
otherwise you're off the grid
toxic lake
Ah fuckkkk
Were Quickhacks a thing before 2077? Because they just feel like spells to me.
halcyon violet
They weren't
toxic lake
So yeah of course a part of me is wrongly thinking like "this feels like R Talsorian getting bossed around by CDPR to make hacking more accessible"
worthy snow
A lot of people coming to the game from the context of the 2077 game kind of expected Netrunners being able to quickhack, prior to the mission kit
(and at least from talking with the couple people I know who've tried to play Netrunners without that, the pre-existing system for hacking kind is... rough)
toxic lake
Netrunners being so weird and involved feels distinctive to Cyberpunk as a game to me.
The idea that you invest all this money and skill points into a specific type of setpiece in Cyberpunk in general is cool. Like opting into different kinds of story.
cerulean ridge
Netrunners suffer very much from the Decker problem.
You interact with an entirely different subsystem than anybody else.
toxic lake
As different from like, Nomads getting to shine during chase scenes because at least then you can lean out the window and shoot
cerulean ridge
And it's a thing that nobody else can really do anything with, yeah.
And at the very least you can also buy a car. It's expensive, but it's there!
crystal urchin
yeah 2077 (videogame) added "everyone has brain implants with always on bluetooth and also you can hack them via line of sight" as a gameplay mechanic because CDPR wanted to include netrunner on par with the fast paced running and gunning
cerulean ridge
Which is the right choice for the video game for sure.
crystal urchin
and maybe also because they wanted to do a Syndicate 2012
(because it is literally just how it works in Syndicate 2012)
toxic lake
Is puppet as OP in the game as it sounds like it should be in the TRPG?
worthy snow
You interact with an entirely different subsystem than anybody else.
I know the one RED campaign I was in for a bit over a year had the nettie in the team really itching for any kind of quickhacks option
Always doubled the length of a combat or investigation scene if the party had to cut back and forth between the ongoings in physicality and the netrunner doing the entirely separate hacking mechanics stuff
(unfortunately, the campaign ended right before we would implement the quickhacks)
versed grotto
Netrunners suffer very much from the Decker problem.
Ok I don't think it's that bad but that's more a criticism of decking than it is praise of netrunning
but also yeah unless you're doing Ocean's 11 hacking through cameras stuff you end up with the issue of the netrunner spending the run as a glorified objective
sleek apex
I do think CPRed has the best hacking rules I've seen in any cyberpunk (genre) RPG, admittedly
well, non rules light ones
stuff like The Sprawl and etc that run on PBTA or FITD and don't really have Boutique Compsci Rulesets, just Hacking As A Thing That Happens
leaden trout
(because it is literally just how it works in Syndicate 2012)
Oh hey, someone else who remembers that game
crystal urchin
it was a game of all time
leaden trout
It was alright, had some neat bits to it but also some frustrating ones
toxic lake
As Austin Walker once said: "His name is Miles Kilo. Miles. Like the distance. Kilo. Like the distance!"
dusk turret
Huh, maybe I ought to play it sometime, just to see what it's like
steady bluff
https://youtu.be/FIzkTaiLOPM
I unironically loved this game.
Shame you can't buy it anymore.
pale tide
Getting closer and closer to Cyberpunking all over the place, I'm about to read Nova as inspiration- aka the first ever Cyberpunk book, both William Gibson and Mike Pondsmith have gone and said "yeah this was critical"
hallow prawn
I‘m still unsure what kinda stories one is supposed to tell in. Cyberpunk game this century.
And when unfamiliar with gang violence, I suppose. .
finite scarab
brazen sentinel
I‘m still unsure what kinda stories one is supposed to tell in. Cyberpunk game t...
hi! you run capers, heists
Cyberpunk is, at its heart, a genre of Neonoir
If you want to focus on Gang Violence, I would actually suggest a couple of movies that i think encapsulate the various tones cyberpunk uses, those being
- Gangs of New York
- The Warriors
- Death Wish
Death Wish is probably the worst/most exploitation film of the three and is mostly there bc sometimes you do just need to chew through some boosters in a gunfight
hallow prawn
Oh, I've been meaning to watch The Warriors, ever since I read a review of the related video game half my life ago.
crystal urchin
to extend beyond gang violence, most crime and heist stuff is applicable, up to and including corporate espionage and military stuff
brazen sentinel
Oh, I've been meaning to watch *The Warriors*, ever since I read a review of the...
absolutely you should watch The Warriors because its the best adaptation of The Anabasis and also inspired basically every "themed gang" that came afterwards with the Baseball Furies
who are so fucking cool
also the kung-fu practicing zulu nation guys who serve as the persians in its metaphor of an old greek book
those dudes rule
anyway
when i need to run cyberpunk i go digging for old movies that are like, the kind of shlock that wishes it could afford chuck norris but no they just hired some meathead to do a bad thriller. and then i make the thriller plot good, this worked for a movie called Omega Syndrome which was about cops going rogue to kill a white supremacist gang. bang easy to punch up into a cyberpunk caper.
then you just let the players loose in night city and eventually have them run into the skinheads who are doing some hairbrained scheme and let them go ham!
cyberpunk does its best when everyone treats it like an action movie
be gritty and big
hallow prawn
when i need to run cyberpunk i go digging for old movies that are like, the kind...
I do appreciate that this is an excellent MO. I just wanna point out it includes the step "and then, I just make the […] plot good". :D
Note to self: make time for thrillers
brazen sentinel
its really not hard when you watch really bad movies
shut patrol
One of my favourite ways to punch up a cyberpunk game is to just say names with emphasis
by which I mean like, instead of saying stuff like "go meet my contact at the bar" saying things like "go meet High Roller. He's our contact, gonna be at the bar"
It's easy, because you can just say things, but it makes characters feel more fun
whole prairie
You can probably throw a dart at a wall off like 80s and early 90s movie and have a great plot line to steal from cyberpunk
leaden trout
Also gives more of a feeling of a lived in world and of a rep for the dude
shut patrol
And then for plot, yeah I just think of the most recent shitty music or movie I interacted with
shut patrol
You can probably throw a dart at a wall off like 80s and early 90s movie and hav...
Case in point, my last game that my players loved the concept of involved arasaka super soldier high school cyborg machine gun girls
A plot I shamelessly stole from machine girl
whole prairie
Honestly a few stand out movies in my head thinking about it are Nemesis and Cyborg 2 right now.
shut patrol
basically anything grindcore works
i also like to throw around character quirks for personality, obviously you don't want to over use them, but it makes memorable side characters that literally just exist for random bs
like my players are a big fan of Mr Gucci
and literally the only thing I did was have this man Gucci'd down to the socks and still only pay 500 eddies
toxic lake
I found a very good 80s action movie to pull for Cyberpunk vibes!
You gotta fuckin see Yes Madam! It's Michelle Yeoh's first movie. She's like 20 ish. Really solid interlocking crime plot, fun villains, amazing costuming
The shell game the story plays with its macguffin is super super fun, it reminds me of something from a Cohen brothers movie.
turbid fjord
Heroic trio was also kind of like that. It's another michelle yoeh movie
shut patrol
Heroic trio was also kind of like that. It's another michelle yoeh movie
This is slop but amazing slop
crystal urchin
sometimes bad things........ are good
cerulean ridge
Slop is fine.
Always enjoy some slop every once in a while.
Remember folks: Good and Fun are different things.
hoary copper
Found myself joining a friend's CPRed game set in 2078; unretiring my OWS character to make her suffer more in a different system lol
now I just need to overcome my option paralysis when it comes to new systems and finish kitting her out 
(this is with an Edgerunner build, mind you; not even the full point build system)
cerulean ridge
My group now owes a fixer a favor because they gambled for a discount.
whole prairie
Lol that's woonderful
cerulean ridge
It is! They tried for a 25% discount on some borgware.
Winning would have gotten the discount, losing means they owe him a favor.
But alas, the player is currently kind of pissy.
Because he spent Experience and blew all his luck in one go, and got fucked over by rolling a one.
blissful dust
it's his own fault for being a gonk smh
cerulean ridge
Kind of.
toxic lake
Oh like compared to other Cyberpunk ttrpgs?
Broader than the stuff in Cities Without Number. Very different from Shadowrun. No system for Intiative Passes like Shadowrun has
Thus your speedware that's a staple of the genre mostly interacts with position on intiative directly. The only exception to this is the milspec Sandevistan from the anime which is a lot more involved.
Slot based system past that--you get Foundational Cyberware and then augs take up slots in that cyberware. There is also external gear that is iirc pricier than a limb but conveys no Humanity score loss--goggles, "battlegloves," and a cyberchair, uh I think also headphones, for eyes, arms, legs, ears respectively. Sadly, no externally mounted spines to my knowledge. I like the chair a lot, I think it's a fantastic implementation of disability in a genre that should talk about it, but damn it is also a shame that I cannot have The Wrong Trousers from Wallace and Gromit
valid pulsar
Slot based system past that--you get Foundational Cyberware and then augs take u...
that wallace and gromit would be quite fun
dusk yacht
I love cyberpunk
hallow prawn
that wallace and gromit would be quite fun
Ya think that Wallace and Gromit movie with the robotic dog would work as a plot?
Alternatively: Lucy goes to the moon to find it‘s made of cheese.
hallow prawn
I have now watched Heat (1995) and have come to understand your claims about the value of 80s/90s crime thrillers for Cyberpunk. God, was that a good movie.
Now, I feel like I get what kinda problems you can throw at your players to keep things interesting.
What I find a bit harder is how to provide opportunities for stuff like heists and/or in-game expertise.
Do you simply start with much more low-stake heists? "Hey, you rob the liquor store. But you didn't know it's under protection from a local gang. Also, your estranged cousin is with the police and will tell your about the case during family dinner. With some bad luck, you shoot their partner while trying to escape after you murdered a local gangster who was keeping the info on the robbery and the local protection racket" ?
And then, if you get through that somehow, you build rapport and expertise and being a career criminal, leading to more complex heists?
cerulean ridge
Basically.
leaden trout
I have now watched **Heat** (1995) and have come to understand your claims about...
Heat is great
brazen sentinel
correct!!! correct!!!!
cyberpunk is a genre of the past, it is in conversation with the culture of its time, and uses the same kinds of langauge in its story-beats
understanding how those films hang together, what the notes are to the kind of sad neonoir you're playing, that gets you there!
toxic lake
Do you simply start with much more low-stake heists? "Hey, you rob the liquor st...
James Hutt directly said in an interview that you should do your first 8 sessions as episodic one shots before building up to a plot.
leaden trout
Eight might be a bit much, but it is good to generally let stuff simmer and get a feel for stuff and then use the stuff that’s come up through the player’s actions to create a larger framework
whole prairie
Start your campaign with someone bleeding out in a rented car, clearly you won't regret this.
hallow prawn
What are y‘all‘s opinions on quickhacks?
hallow prawn
Like, from a gameplay perspective. I‘m thinking of them because the netrunner template in the Companion App now includes them.
I feel line they might not fit the 2040s. But I‘ve also heard that, without them, netrunners can do little in a fight (unless there are turrets).
hoary copper
it'd probably be a bad thematic fit for the 2040s, but I can say that in the game I'm in set in 2078, our Netrunner is getting hella use out of them
he's been a super effective member of the team in combat because of quickhacks
dusk yacht
Agree with potato
They definitely make sense for the 2077 era, but not really 2020 or RED
brazen sentinel
Yah, basically, i like 'em tho
they give hackers a little something to do that isn't randomly generated dungeons with the GM
leaden trout
Yeah balancing hacking is always tough in cyberpunk games, since you wanna give ‘em stuff to do but you don’t wanna just have to go “and here is the entirely separate Hacking Hour”
worldly light
Personally I tend to include random hackables in the environments when there's gonna be fights, but that's purely because I dislike quickhacks in a world building sense.
hallow prawn
It’s a good practise to include fun environmental elements in fights.
brazen coral
https://itch.io/jam/cyberpunk-mission-jam-2026/entries
for all that may be interested, a whole bunch of free prewritten Cyberpunk missions
(including 'The easiest Job in the World', an entry from yours truly)
strange forge
can someone give me some advices on how to write better npc stats? i've kinda winged it until now
vale basin
I have 10 points of advice I can give you:
i = 1
while i <= 10
write(f"{i}. Just Wing It")
i += 1
Which can be summarized as "As long as your players are having fun, just keep winging it"
strange forge
fair enough
strange forge
I have 10 points of advice I can give you:
```
i = 1
while i <= 10
write(f"{...
uhhh achkusally what if i'm on 2.7 and i don't have f-strings??? backComp much??????
/s
timid breach
I should have been in this thread a year or two ago- had an interesting implememtation of "wings" on a character that worked with the CPR crunch.
I've also got a few ideas that would be nice to run past people for a possible future game, but I dont know how active this thread is these days.
blissful dust
give us the down low choom
timid breach
"My quad arm mount has custom cyberware hands on two mounts. They work just like regular hands with quickchange mounts, except they're always holding ballistic shields. Also, if I have at least linear frame strength, and have a rope tied to a moving vehical in a chase scene, I can fly lik a kite behind it, including landing on other moving vehicals, as long as the balistic shields are intact."
For the possible future game: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eJdx28KOC5aD5elc9-ZfRPQq8F386STbv7cBdG96hDQ/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0
