POKÉMON CENTER

[manic kindle]

Honestly aero being a tailwind user that checks most other tailwind users is a nice touch

Corviknight is the main one who dont give a flip if aero exists

[manic kindle]

speaking of encore willed it into existence i just had a rough match against Encore Mega Delphox

[quiet galleon]

mega delphox can be pretty scaryyy

[manic kindle]

im happy to see people cooking with delphox, i think being a levitate fire type with solid stats is really nifty

good garchomp partner + people are playing around with the funnier support moves instead of just clicking heat wave

[quiet galleon]

I think it's funny that everyone was kinda like oh...just levitate... and then everyone is like wait levitate is awesome

rotom heat is awesome

and so fast!!

[manic kindle]

sometimes clicking overheat fills me with joy

im excited to see the results of today's Grand Champions Festival; if i didnt have work i'd be in there

[snow wren]

how do you access screenshots like this?

[arctic dagger]

Sableeye currently on screen

😄

@umbral hound

Your blorbo making modern competitive tournaments continued

Also archaludon is just

Too fast

It does NOT look like it's 85 speed

That shit looks like it should be like, 50 tops

[snow wren]

My pokeball tier doubles team and my ultra ball tier singles team

[quiet galleon]

send to mobile device on the switch. I use an app called switchbuddy which automates the device side process cause it's otherwise kinda weird

[arctic dagger]

@pliant violet Mega Kang mirror

[quiet galleon]

I think the switch 2 has a better way to do it idk

wait you probably figured that out on account of posting screenshots oops

[snow wren]

yeah I did sorry

[arctic dagger]

Every pokemon but forretress and dedenne is in the tournament

That's pretty neat

[quiet galleon]

Oh wow

Even ghourgheist

[soft isle]

What tournament?

[arctic dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZpK-pcykQA

[manic kindle]

lots of neat stuff already

[soft isle]

Cool!

[versed sand]

Does Volcarona get used much? Did notice it in the current VGC banner

[arctic dagger]

Not that I've seen so far

It's just a cool pokemon I think

[quiet galleon]

I wanted to use it but I was scared of the rock weakness in this meta

Its been a vgc staple tho

I think I saw it in a game once and I…applied rock

[manic kindle]

it has its niches; it has redirection, has in theory really nice special stab and support tools

i dont think right now it has a good spread into the current Champions roster but as things get shifted it can find its time

and also as pennywen has said rn its Rock Slide City for a lot of teams

[quiet galleon]

Which is also not only rock type but physical

[versed sand]

Hoping I can grind enough pokemoney to work on my teams builds more

[manic kindle]

you can do it! at the very least passively getting achievements done rakes in some dough

[versed sand]

Luckily, I'm not hurting for training tickets yet

[manic kindle]

regarding the tournament video: im not sure perish song was the right play in this round 5 game 🤔

like, sludge bomb or shadow ball into garchomp would have been more impactful?

[manic kindle]

round 6 dylan vs michael match: this rotom is putting in so much work

two successful strong will o wisp hits, lots of splash damage

[quiet galleon]

Gliscor offers you a blunt pokemon card

[snow wren]

gliscor is cool

[manic kindle]

i politely refuse the blunt and hit blizzard

[arctic dagger]

Thing that I saw

Sinistcha trick room w/ Mega Ampharos

Using Parabolic Charge

[manic kindle]

oo funky

im eager to go back and watch, havent been able to catch most matches cuz of work

[arctic dagger]

Cool infograph

[languid lichen]

goatchomp...

[manic kindle]

As milotic rises, Incineroar falls ever so slightly

Symbiosis...

[arctic dagger]

Watchog has made it to day 2

[manic kindle]

Whats the hog set i gotta know

[arctic dagger]

We don't know

The casters promised to interview them tomorrow

[soft isle]

What incredibly specific niche could watchog possible have?

It has a decently slow analytic I guess...?

[snow wren]

My scarf mamoswine outsped sneasler

[manic kindle]

that makes sense; until unburden boost kicks in, sneasler is Very Fast but not The Fastest

as for watchog: guy gets some funky move mixtures, Baton Pass T-wave Super Fang... 🤔

[versed sand]

So little love for Starmie

[manic kindle]

Its neat, its just not its era

Being stuck with Liquidation is rough

Wave Crash Mega Starmie would be COOKING

same with being stuck with Psycho Cutter and Ice Spinner; even with huge power, the ~70-80 base power moves means Starmie misses out on key KO ranges

so its like 'hey, why am i using my mega slot on this guy, when i could just run Basculegion and wave crash every idiot i see?'

i do know of a mega starmie team that went 5-3 today tho, good record

[snow wren]

when I first played I went on my brother's account by accident and I can't figure out how to help him reset his game so he can change his character/choose a starter team he prefers

[pliant violet]

you cannot

[snow wren]

thats really annoying

[manic kindle]

if it helps, you get so many pulls early on

i dont think im using any from my initial 6, i didnt even know it gave different guys

[snow wren]

it also means that he is stuck with the name I gave him as well as the gender/skin tone of the character I made

you also aren't guaranteed to find the mon you are looking for

I'm still looking for hydreigon and scizor for instance

[manic kindle]

yeah, cant speak for that outside of using Home, i just use who i roll

[soft isle]

Can you not just make a second switch profile or something?

Anthropodlogist ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) when I first played I went on my brother's account by accident and I can't figure out how to help hi…

[snow wren]

third, I had one but fat fingered opening his by mistake

[obtuse ravine]

this won me a match, encored a ttar's rock slide and wide guarded while herofin cleaned up

lopunny is back on the (team) menu

going back to my old rain-ish team instead of trying to make incin and trick room work

[manic kindle]

i love wide guard

[obtuse ravine]

i can learn that later

[obtuse ravine]

yesyes

good for scarfchomp too

[manic kindle]

nothing feels as good as hitting wide guard against two spread moves in one turn

i love free turns

[obtuse ravine]

yaya

no blizzard ☺️

[snow wren]

I may try to add Mimikyu to my singles team but it’s working so well I don’t want to destabilize it

Dragonite is the main one I’d consider cutting since they’re raw brute force but my alt mega if gard isn’t a great candidate

And Mimi has neither mega nor wide coverage

[pliant violet]

ok but do you expect to see either

random laddering means probably yes

[obtuse ravine]

i have seen 1 delphox and 2 gengars

[pliant violet]

are you tracking everything you see

[azure crane]

So if someone sets tailwind, does that alter speeds for that turn?

[pliant violet]

as of gen... 5? I wanna say, yes

[obtuse ravine]

it's always quite fun seeing EVs being built specifically with some pokemon in mind, like living garchomp rock slide on 2-5 hp

[pliant violet]

speeds dynamically alter in a turn

[obtuse ravine]

not really, but they were rare enough to stick out

[pliant violet]

meta optimisation

[obtuse ravine]

mega gengar looks really funny, and when i saw mega delphox I went "HUH where is my delphoxite"

and learned that it's a ZA transfer bonus 😔

[pliant violet]

the extra brooms sell me on delphox

[obtuse ravine]

mhmm

[manic kindle]

Ye this is why i shared that cat

I thought it was a neat example for the folks new to Champions

[pliant violet]

tbf if I'm the opponent in against incin, I am switching my delphox or gengar out

[obtuse ravine]

yes!!

it saved me

🥹

[pliant violet]

gengar maybe not but delphox cannot touch it

I'm bad at those kinda spreads because I don't calc enough

[obtuse ravine]

yeah i just do 32 32 2 or ask people here

[pliant violet]

I'm also of the mindset that I'm just not playing at a lever where those kind of calcs matter

[manic kindle]

I think speed tier stuff can be easier than damage calcs

[pliant violet]

true, it's just something I cannot be bothered to internalise

I go by vibes not real numbers, this is objectively a worse way to play

on the otherhand, trick room kinda messes with speed tiers anyway

[manic kindle]

Yeah biggest thing there is mirrors or the middling speed chumps

The 70~90 speed guys can get awkward

[pliant violet]

simple solution: don't use them, we hates them

ignore incin and farig in my team

oh that's something useful for new players, send out abilities go in speed order, so lower speed is good for weather etc, but also it gives you some idea of where speeds line up for those pokemon if you're unsure

using those triggers to tell speed on leads can be really useful extra info

[manic kindle]

Order of intimidates and such is good intel

[pliant violet]

intim, weather, unnerve, I'm sure there's others but atm those are the most common 3 I see

[azure crane]

Mold Breaker?

[obtuse ravine]

mm i see

[quiet galleon]

I made my kingambit like 3 speed to outspeed min speed farig haha

I was also trying to make sitrus aero work in my ttar team but it doesnt cause basculegion and choice scarf exists :(

[manic kindle]

poor aerodactyl's glass bones and paper skin

i think about speed stuff a lot because i hate ties and i want to make sure i know the order of how my pokemon will act, which is why my pelipper is 1 speed faster than my meganium

or my jolly basculegion being 31 speed instead of 32; i miss out on the speed tie chance but i prefer that guarantee

[quiet galleon]

Mhm

[manic kindle]

I wonder if there's a good way to use Jolteon in Champions rn; fiance's favorite little guy and she wants to know if it can be done

[quiet galleon]

I think electric is quite well positioned offensively

[manic kindle]

Does have a really fast Fake Tears and Electroweb

[quiet galleon]

Volt absorb 🤔

Does mean electroweb immune

You could pair with discharge but like...idk if that would be a good idea for double electric type reasons

[manic kindle]

partners is really where im stumped

[quiet galleon]

The speed is pretty good yeah

It seems like it could be competitive for thunder in rain team just in terms of spatk and speed

Jolly jolteon outspeeds adamant scarf basc and ohkos but not jolly :(

[manic kindle]

such is speed pain

[quiet galleon]

Or timid jolteon I guess

Probably focus sash

[manic kindle]

yeah its basically sash or magnet; i think jolteon could pair nicely with another faster mega, like glimmora

[quiet galleon]

Okay I dont think this is good but. You could fast set electric terrain for raichu alola

It apparently used to be really good

[manic kindle]

ok that might not be good but that DOES sound funny

[azure crane]

I wish Pincurchin wasn't a heaping mess of garbage.

[obtuse ravine]

til another trick room setter: slowking (?)

ooh and a way to set snow

i thought they had no weather

[wild prairie]

Man only having time to play champions about once a week has been rough. Still in Ultra 2 and now I'm out of vp and quick coupons with no Starmie

Also I have a deep hatred for Pelipper

[manic kindle]

slowking getting a custom move thats "i tell a joke so bad it snows so i leave" is so good

[obtuse ravine]

😭

oh woww

[wispy yarrow]

I love chilly reception

and shell side arm

[obtuse ravine]

sinistcha has trick room

this one is named Gary

[wispy yarrow]

mfw my shell side arm slowbro gets his ability off and one-shots mega floette

[manic kindle]

chilly reception also being a "slow switch" move is pretty nice

[obtuse ravine]

so your pokemon can tank the hit then swap right?

[wispy yarrow]

ye

[manic kindle]

helps mitigate the risk with switching in your guy if they cant risk taking a hit

[wispy yarrow]

yeah, if you volt switch or flip turn into something that gets oneshot it feels bad

[obtuse ravine]

[wispy yarrow]

plus you take regenerator

and so you heal

[obtuse ravine]

ooooh

[wispy yarrow]

1/3rd of HP healed on switchout baybeeeee

[obtuse ravine]

hoping to make it to master by the end of the month

does encore work if the target previously got fake outed

[soft isle]

We believe in you!

Este (they/she) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) hoping to make it to master by the end of the month

[obtuse ravine]

ty sophia n co

https://tenor.com/view/lopunny-lopunnydance-pokemon-gif-9218265210040095594

[manic kindle]

iirc they have to Use the move first, and flinch prevents the move from being used

[obtuse ravine]

[manic kindle]

truly i think you can do it, you ask good questions and have strong ideas on your team and where to go with them

being hungry for knowledge always allows the next step

[obtuse ravine]

i try my best

it’s been a bit discouraging being stuck here, but i’ve been through this kind of learning process before

now it’s a matter of figuring out where to improve my teambuilding, team choice, and gameplay

[manic kindle]

slowly steal knowledge from all your wins and losses

[obtuse ravine]

that’s the hope

oooooook

just learned about earth eater

:D

the hard way

i should have checked before i earthquaked

because i remembered something of the kind

[snow wren]

Had a fun game where meowscerada wrecked a stall toxapex with a taunt

It was forced to struggle

[obtuse ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-dance-cute-fluffy-gif-15415017485564982843

i did it!!

[manic kindle]

the master bun

[obtuse ravine]

indeed…

time to drop to 1200 MR

local bunny avoids getting squished with 1 simple trick

[manic kindle]

i wonder why ive been seeing so many aggron lately

[quiet galleon]

Yesssss

[obtuse ravine]

it was terrifying seeing my lopunny close combat into the aggron and doing 17%..

[karmic imp]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1snke5o/animal_crossing_villager_and_pokopia_ditto_art_by/
Unexpected relationship: Pokopia ditto and animal crossing villager

[manic kindle]

its weird seeing a tall ditto

[snow wren]

aggron hard wall phys attackers but can be brute forced by sp attackers

[manic kindle]

He's also just very one-trick; if you see Aggron, you sort of know exactly what you need to dismantle him

[quiet galleon]

Filter is a really good ability

[snow wren]

80 sp def is very average

[manic kindle]

Perhaps its my team or luck, i have just not suffered a ko to mega aggron in the 6 or so matches ive seen one

[languid lichen]

unforchies 70/80 special is very weak to a firm flamethrower

[snow wren]

I’m not sure what my team would do against it since glimmira and gardevoir are my special sweepers

Woukd mystical fire from mega gardevoir ko?

[manic kindle]

32+ SpA Gardevoir Mystical Fire vs. 32 HP / 32+ SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 58-69 (32.7 - 38.9%) -- 98.93% chance to 3HKO

32+ SpA Glimmora Earth Power vs. 32 HP / 32+ SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 70-84 (39.5 - 47.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
would need some help chunking him down

if its +32 def aggron i think the calcs allow for a 2hko

[snow wren]

Not sure those mons survive two hits from aggron let alone one either

[manic kindle]

yeah, Heavy Slam squashes them if he's running it

[quiet galleon]

Might make my aegislash special now that I have kingambit 🤔

[snow wren]

Oh I forgot mega dragonite with fire blast
I just don’t super click with him despite his power so he was an afterthought

My singles team does work though

Meowscerada, dragonite, azumaril, gardevoir, glimmora and mamoswine

[soft isle]

Because it's cool!

murdoc (he/him) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) i wonder why ive been seeing so many aggron lately

[snow wren]

May try to alter it so I can fit mimikyu

[manic kindle]

Aggron is cool! Its just funky to see in Masters tier i suppose

[snow wren]

It’s a very ‘counter me or die’ mon where many meta staples can’t counter it

[arctic dagger]

A good friend of mine hit Masters with a monowater team so

Anyone can do it

[obtuse ravine]

i'm anyone

[snow wren]

Mono water is one of the strongest monotype teams, want to try a ghost one sometimes

[manic kindle]

Im guessing milotic, politoed, blastoise and basculegion as a core?

[snow wren]

Pelipper maybe too since that sets weather

[arctic dagger]

They say:
Mega Gyarados
Fast Pelipper
Araquanid
Icy Wind Milotic
Primarina
Mega Blastoise

[languid lichen]

fast pelipper...

[snow wren]

Ran into monotype water today. Forget their other mobs cut they sent out pekipper, greninja and toxapex

[lusty valley]

hi its me

[lusty valley]

yeah felt the need to specify cause I had full bulk pelipper at first but I needed more damage on hurricane to break sinistcha, venusaur, meganium, milotic, etc

[manic kindle]

I dig it

Hurricane hurts my poor meg

[languid lichen]

zorkless...

[manic kindle]

Sounds like something the scooby gang would say

[lusty valley]

your poor meg solar beams my team its very mean

[manic kindle]

Pewpewwwww

This makes sense to me

Very solid pokemon

[snow wren]

Oh neat scizor
Like that mon but haven’t found one yet

Same with hydreigon

[snow wren]

Do people run monotype in singles or doubles generally

Mono ghost has the immediate issue of incinerator too

And lacks any fighting types for suooerffective moved

Gengar, basc and Mimikyu are all quite good, but you need stuff for sneasler incin and garchomp

[pliant violet]

Monotype strategies suffer, as you point out, from singular answers to the problems they present

[manic kindle]

amazing name here

folk are cooking

[pliant violet]

Manually setting is rough

[manic kindle]

losing the turn is rough

[lusty valley]

yeah I've been running my monotype water in double. Its rough because Archaludon electro shot, rotom wash, sun teams with venusaur, etc are all rampant but that's the fun for me

I've been running a trick room variation right now and it's actually a lot more powerful, it has answers to all of the problems by allowing me to run the less meta slower mons

[snow wren]

is there any place you can find the teams from te ongoing vgc?

[snow wren]

yeah, its why the best ones are the typings that have rare or easily dealt with counters like water

grass has a ton of things that resist it while being supereffective while electric doesn't even resist water

ice should resist water

how do people hope they do seasons in the future? My personal hope is that casual is a free for all, possibly with different pools for formats that are wildly different (such as restricted or megas) but mostly focused on letting you do what you want, while competitive is more restricted in the mons that are allowed and rotates for different rules; such as what mons are available and whether legendaries and megas are

that makes the restricted box hurt so much more though

[languid lichen]

GRASSY TERRAIN MIRACLE SEED????

bro the name is not all folks are cooking

[manic kindle]

ive been perusing pokemon zone and pikalytics, as well as just my general twitter feed

[manic kindle]

memes aside it has been nice to see Tsareena get a lot of good use

[languid lichen]

she's a neat mon

[manic kindle]

queenly majesty is a real neat ability, and base 120 attack puts in the work

[lusty valley]

unfortunately there are no water ground types this regulatioon

[pliant violet]

I like the current power level and hope it keeps at something like this

[obtuse ravine]

[snow wren]

I think a more limited supply of mons in competitive is interesting; I think casual should have a wider one so you can just throw your favorites into a team but even if it hurts not being able to use favorites there are times where its best for the game health

[arctic dagger]

Yep

[snow wren]

the best benefit of balance is variety not fairness; I'd be of the opinion that the top 10 most used mons shouldn't be part of the next season (new ones should be added of course) as well as swapping out many of the least used ones but we know they'd never cut charizard

I can't figure out why firigiraff is so powerful, I mostly use mimikyu as my trick setter and that works well while also having a mon that can hit a number of scary mons and hit mons with will o wisp, what is it that makes them so good?

[arctic dagger]

I mean they stop all priority moves and have good stats

[lusty valley]

its relatively bulky with high base hp, normal psychic means you can only super effective it with dark (and bug but that's rarely runnable), its immune to fake-out with armor tail, its one of the slowest pokemon so it always gets to go first with its really high special attack after trick room is up

[snow wren]

Bug is the worst offensive typing yeah

Fairy shouldn’t resist og and bug should resist fairy

[pliant violet]

Mega golisopod a hard counter to tr, also u turn is not an uncommon move to have

[manic kindle]

yeah, its REALLY hard to one/two shot the giraffe so it almost always WILL get the trick room off

like if you truly need trick room, you will get it with the giraffe in most instances

psychic stab into sneasler meta is also Real Good

sneasler cant threaten farigiraf meaningfully

if i see the giraffe in team preview i have to heavily consider leaving sneasler behind

[pliant violet]

and if throat spray is in the game farig is even better

[manic kindle]

sitrus berry giraffe is usually what i see and it makes it impossible for me to two shot

[pliant violet]

plus has stab hyper voice which provides nice spread chip alongside your heavy hitter TR mons

[glossy umbra]

Yeah, they seem to be aiming at something on the level of Regulation H, with a few notable absences

Such as no Ursaluna.

[pliant violet]

the string cheese man

[quiet galleon]

farig also doesn't have competition from indeedee rn so

[pliant violet]

cursed be it's name

[obtuse ravine]

misclick...

maushold is a berry whimsical pokemon

[pliant violet]

which one do you prefer

3 or 4

[obtuse ravine]

hmm

4?

[wild prairie]

Quick Claw Farig has put in work for me. It's not the most consistent, but it already doesn't get 2hkoed unless I'm against some cracked out hyperoffense setup, and having the chance to toss a move out on the turn I sacrifice it is nice

[snow wren]

I’ve mostly been using mimikyu as a setter but I could see an offensive team 2-shorting them

Shame there’s no levitate trick room setter, being able to click earthquake and not ko your buddy woukd be fun

[wild prairie]

You could run Telepathy Oranguru for that

[quiet galleon]

Ah i was beaten to the punch

But yeah oranguru is base speed 60

[snow wren]

Huh didnt know that

Thx

Add that to the list of mobs im looking for
Scizor, hydreigon, sinistea and rhyperior is the current one

[snow wren]

Shame musharna doesn’t learn troom, could be a neat setter

I'm definetly having some mons grow on me through playing this, in particular abomasnow and glimmora. Sneasler and dragonite haven't had the same impact

hmm was looking at champions vgc teams and a lot of these seem to be tailwind or weather teams with trick room on a mon to counter some matchups

weird I haven't seen more trick room kingsgambit but the fact they have no multihitting moves may impact that

[manic kindle]

kingambit having one of the strongest Sucker Punches in the game means it doesnt need tr, really

the top8 team in the recent big tourney was a trick room core, that was fun

[soft isle]

Primarina my beloved 🥺

[manic kindle]

big hyper voice is really good, and she looks lovely

[quiet galleon]

I love prima

Probably one of my fav whole starter lines

[manic kindle]

another neat team

[lusty valley]

the poplio line is perfect

[snow wren]

kang as the phys abuser interesting

that one also seems neat

looks like there's not much stuff that competes with fira's niche huh, I've got two setters on my team but honestly don't need them. I'm guessing its also that none of the meta mons can really threaten it, which says a lot given the propensity of both incin and basculegion

[quiet galleon]

Its immune to last respects tbf

[snow wren]

forgot that small interaction

normal on psychic and host has some odd little uses

[quiet galleon]

Mhm

Very good typing for how much health it gets

Kingambit hits it but it can survive with a resist berry

[snow wren]

you could also deploy a fighting type like sneasler to protect them and then swap to your abusers

[quiet galleon]

Yurp

Fake out support stops them doubling

[manic kindle]

its part of why i think mega blastoise is in a real nice spot for trick room teams, since he is a lovely slow fake out supporter

[quiet galleon]

I had no idea he had fake out first time I saw him

Blaistoise is scary cause sometimes they have aura sphere and sometimes they do not have aura sphere

Mega launcher is 50%?? 😰

[versed sand]

Do people use Hisuian Goodra much?

[arctic dagger]

Not that I've seen

I seem to remember it being used in rain teams once upon a time

But I think it's mostly just outclassed by Arch atm

[manic kindle]

i have run into it on ladder

theoretically has a lot of nice stuff going for it

[timber vale]

huh. apparently tera blast got banned from SV OU

[snow wren]

alright, managed to pull both hydreigon and scizor
I'm also out of tickets, but frankly worth it

man, watched my firigiraff get two shot by a whimsicott and azumaril

[manic kindle]

i know theres a lot of other factors going for it but
really funny to imagine its cuz people played champions and didnt have to deal with all the tera stuff combined

[snow wren]

moonblast into knock off

[arctic dagger]

TBH Tera is REALLY COOL and one of the coolest gimmicks in ages but

It makes it SO HARD to balance pokemon

There's so many pokemon that are balanced off by having their typings be kinda shit

And tera just goes "Lol. Lmao."

[timber vale]

iirc it's the reason for genuinely like half the OU bans for smogon rn

Roaring Moon, Gouging Fire, Volcarona, etc.

[snow wren]

Taunt mons are annoying into trick room

A gengar doing that helped wreck my team

Torkaol defended t1 but was a sitting fick turn two

[languid lichen]

tera pushed it over, but gouging fire is also just a giant stat monster with good typing, recovery, ddance + strong stab if it wants, and a really good signature move that kinda fucks on physicals

bro was a menace even without it

[manic kindle]

yeah, anticipating things like Taunt or the one-two is a skill you gotta develop for trick room / any turn 1 setup attempts in doubles

[soft isle]

Watching that tournament thing y'all were talking about

...so that's why the rounds took so long

[languid lichen]

is that toxic or base poison

[soft isle]

Normal I think?

They both have leftovers and recover too

[languid lichen]

god

and i imagine their only offensive option is scald

maybe ice beam

icy wind?

idk what doubles milo runs

[timber vale]

Icy wind, scald, protect, recover iirc

[soft isle]

Scald and... muddy water apparently

[languid lichen]

huh

wild

does anything run breaking swipe ever?

or is its distribution just not on the right things to exploit it

[pliant violet]

Muddy water, icy wind, coil, hypnosis, recover, there’s a bunch of different options on milotic after scald

[languid lichen]

i have to imagine you'd only run coil with hypnosis, right?

[soft isle]

Muddy water, hypnosis, recover, and scald for one of them

[pliant violet]

I personally am an icywind believer but spread with stat drop can be dangerous with defiant and competitive mons around

[pliant violet]

Ye

[languid lichen]

huh, no protect

wild

[soft isle]

Scald, recover, protect, and not sure on the other

[pliant violet]

Protect matters less when you have absurd bulk

[soft isle]

...wait no, instead of scald it has coil

[languid lichen]

ahhh

[pliant violet]

Then 4 is probably hypno

[languid lichen]

muddy hypno coil recover?

that makes sense

[soft isle]

It ended in a draw 🫠

[languid lichen]

i mean, it's only 95/79/125

[soft isle]

Riveting gameplay!

[languid lichen]

that's good, but it's not absurd like some modern mons

[pliant violet]

On a pure water type it’s pretty meaty

[languid lichen]

oh, unrelated

does anyone have an up-to-date usage stat sheet?

[snow wren]

I wish the game would show us the enemy teams mons when we were doing action,s having to bring up the pokemon selection menu to see their other mons is annoying

[manic kindle]

theres also gravity

[snow wren]

found an interersting lookgin tailwind team with both scizor and hydreigon

[pliant violet]

Gravity is seeing some play

[pliant violet]

What’re they using as the setter?

[snow wren]

I'd need to find an aerodactyl for it

then they have volcarona, sinistcha, and milotic

not sure if this is singles or ddoubles and it always annnoys me how those aren't listed so obviously

most likely doubles for sinistcha though, not sure why they've got the stall milotic when thats not as useful

I've got a volc and milotic but not perma, could get them since they're both solid, and I've been looking for sinistcha anyways

[lusty valley]

Mono water doubles trick room team I've been having some success with in master ball rn

[lusty valley]

I’ve seen some doubles gravity grav apple shenanigans

[snow wren]

I hope the rest of the unova starters get megas, although serperiors horrible move pool will likely mean they’re still useless sadly

Shane mega chandelure lacks a real niche

[pliant violet]

The lesser applin like signature

[fickle thicket]

how the hell is a monotype team seeing success in a high tier

[pliant violet]

I've seen some monoghost* ideas too

[pliant violet]

so the actual trick is I think once you make a tier you can't rank down, i.e. master can't go down to greatball

[fickle thicket]

I see...

[fickle thicket]

based I love ghost types

[pliant violet]

you should

[fickle thicket]

I do

doing an ultra sun mono ghost playthrough is still on my "sometime" list

but I think I had at some point moved all my shit to my ultra sun cartridge

and pokémon bank is down forever

so I think I'll have to emulate

[pliant violet]

one of the best things about champions has been all the folks just fucking around and trying it

[fickle thicket]

I'd picked Ultra Sun for it because I own it and I feel like Alola has a good number of ghost types available

let's see how it works out

[pliant violet]

hardest game in the series to nuzlocke ime

[fickle thicket]

There's... 15 ghost lines (and lunaala and blacephalon) in ultra alola, 3 of which start out ghostless

none which are exclusive to ultra moon

I kind of don't want to use decidueye because I used that for my Sun playthrough already

gengar is a trade evo................................... but I can at least pick up a gastly and drifloon as early as hau'oli cemetery

Sableye in ten carat hill...

and I think that's it for melemele

island scan litwick maybe

not bad

[quiet galleon]

I did a poison run in swsh that I really enjoyed way back. And I started an ice one which with isle of armour is quite nice though cause I have shield I had to trade darumaka

[pliant violet]

pretty well agree

[quiet galleon]

Not sure about the weather setters. Like just listing everything with the ability

And ends up forgetting to mention alolan ninetails

[pliant violet]

I mean, ability setting is the best way to do it

though I think mentioning priority setters would be good too

[quiet galleon]

That feels more relevant yeah

[pliant violet]

which is basically just whims

[manic kindle]

prankster sableye weather numero unoooooo

[pliant violet]

what weather does sableye get?

[quiet galleon]

Just hippowdon and kanto ninetales and snow warning aurorus are kinda suspect even if they are better than pokemon that incidentally get the moves by default

[manic kindle]

rain dance and sunny day

i know the chart says Best but honestly having a solid listing of all good teambuilding blocks is good enough for me, and i will go to bat for Hippowdon being solid

[pliant violet]

the two important ones, got it

[quiet galleon]

Valid

[soft isle]

https://www.tumblr.com/prettiestplatypus/814617059969400832/pokopia-is-pretty-neat-dont-ask-how-many

The Prettiest Platypus

Pokopia is pretty neat
(don't ask how many hundreds of hours I put into it)

...

Tumblr · Apr 22, 2026, 5:36 PM

[manic kindle]

Pokopia made me cry

[snow wren]

It’s ironic that mega chandelure would be better if it had worse speed

Could be scary trick room although I guess 80 is decent og plus speed

[obtuse ravine]

[snow wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHNmqocSVDA

oh man, watching wolfey I understand why he's so good

[timber vale]

Bro is the LeBron of VGC

[arctic dagger]

Nope they actually climbed to masters with it the whole way apparently

I blame bo1

[snow wren]

snarl missed both enemies and lost me the match

oh nvm crit draco meteor

rnf taketh and rng giveth

[lusty valley]

Yes but Master ball unlike the other tiers 1) You can drop/ rise between master ball tier 4, 3, etc, and then into champions 2) It has an elo number and an overall ranking. Aparently your starting elo is based on your performance before hand.

I've been dancing around low 1800s which is between rank 80000 and 40000 on the leaderboard according to the game

[lusty valley]

the answer is I had to engineer specific answers to meta threats, and then also have to make some hard reads every game that I definitely wouldn't have to with a safer team

[snow wren]

how did mega hercross ko aegislash from over half health with rock blast

running hydro pump on hydreigon to deal with incineroar

water is also one of the better monotypes, especially since none of the meta defining threats crush them in matchups, and its still not a cake walk to make it

man I suck, told my brother I'd get him some victories on his account and his 'I like these' core is garchomp, kingsgambit and tyranitar and I'm loosing

[quiet galleon]

Sword form?

[snow wren]

oh, probably

it did nothing to shield so I think I overestimated his durability

[quiet galleon]

Yeah its just 185 atk with 125 bp move

[lusty valley]

Yeah it swaps its defense and attack stat in sword and shield form so that massively flips its durability

[lusty valley]

also true. Water has a lot of options and is just strong, though I do think there's a lot of meta traps (Solar Beam Charizard and Meganium, The enemy having water types that wall me - milotic + rotom, Charge Shot Archaladon, etc). But a lot of the other meta picks are kinda neutral matchups which is nice

[snow wren]

man fire/grass is a weird typing to deal with

[quiet galleon]

Its very cool, people were really excited for scovillain before its stats came out

[fickle thicket]

cool actually

[lusty valley]

thank you. It's definitely worse than if I even added like one ground type or one sinistcha to my team so that solar beams and electric moves didn't tear it apart, but for my first VGC attempt its forced me to learn a lot of interactions

[arctic dagger]

Amr is pretty cool, do agree

[snow wren]

I'm definetly find the higher I get the more I need to plan around some of the stronger openers and teams

I haven

't been super impressed by mega golurk, I feel like I'll replace it with a rhyperior when I find one

[arctic dagger]

Trick room?

I recommend trying the crab or aggron

[manic kindle]

The crab is my enemy

[snow wren]

I've been using mega abomasnow as my main trick room mon

although frankly my team is really pushing it with my dark type weaknesses

mimikyu, hydreigon, scizor, sinistchea, golurk and abomasnow

I recently replaced sneasler and basculegion for two of my favorites which was probably a mistake tbh

[arctic dagger]

Golurk and abomasnow?

[snow wren]

Hydreigon and scizor were the swap in, golurk and abomasnow are my trick room sweepers

The fact the team lacks a strong counter to incin hurts in

Want to swap out golurk for rhyperior though

I’m honestly surprised I’ve never run into a rhyperior, I often find im clicking rockslide over my stab single target moves and rhyperior gives you stab on that

[arctic dagger]

Golurk and abomasnow are just both megas so I'm surprised you'

re running both

[snow wren]

Another reason I want to cut golurk, I usually just mega abom and so golurk has a dead item, while mega acizor bullet punch can do work

Cutting the two powerhouses when I don’t have a great incin counter wasn’t the best choice

But hasn’t bitten me too hard yet

[arctic dagger]

The crab is a great incin counter

Hits it really hard

And is immune to intimidate

(I just really like the crab ok)

[snow wren]

Friend of mine lives the crab

[manic kindle]

I like 2-mega teams for flexibility on team preview and gameplans

[lusty valley]

Crab is one of the few pokemon tempting me to make a non mono water team

In a singles draft league crab carried me so hard

And so I was hype to find it getting a mega

[quiet galleon]

Scizor is great

[arctic dagger]

I think normal crab is kinda w/e but I really like its mega

[arctic dagger]

I like running multiple Pokemon that could be a mega but I'm only running one actual mega ATM

[pliant violet]

Gyarados is a great backup mega because it does solid work without mega evolving

[snow wren]

I should try out mega glimmora, I use them a bunch in my singles team but with focus sash so far

that focus sash has saved me a bunch too

[snow wren]

It lets glimmora take on the steel dragon mom for instance

[soft isle]

Just saw a milotic do a triple protect into surviving a max power last respects to win the game, what the hell

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) Watching that tournament thing y'all were talking about

[arctic dagger]

Haha

Yeah sometimes RNG happens

XD

[pliant violet]

Gotta play your outs

[arctic dagger]

If you're gonna lose if you don't get a triple protect... Ya should go for the triple protect

[soft isle]

They lost also game 1 due to a 5% miss on icy wind

[arctic dagger]

RNG taketh

RNG giveth

[languid lichen]

95% do mean sometimes you eat shit and die

lost plenty of steam eruptions

[snow wren]

Had a double miss snarl earlier today

Almost lost me the game until I got a crit draconmegeor

[soft isle]

Mega Scovillain seems really cool

It's got pretty bad defenses, but also you really don't want to attack into it

And it also has rage powder 😌

[snow wren]

Fire grass is also a very strange typing to deal with

[soft isle]

Yeh

I also like how it uses up your mega, a disposable mega pokemon seems like a cool design space

[snow wren]

Mega victeribell is that even more

[soft isle]

It has innards out right?

[snow wren]

Yup

Ran into once and mystic fire gardevoir leaves it at just a couple percent

Which was the optimal thibg

Could be interesting to scare off stuff like torkaol in trick room matchups

Need to change my teams around a bit
And then try to increase my box space

I think I’d need to either pay money or give away some favorites that suck

Or maybe use home

[lusty valley]

New Ladder Demon Tech I encountered at 1900 elo: Scarfed Snarl Hydreigon

paired it with a gyarados for intimidate so they would hit both spa and attack

[snow wren]

Hydreigon snarl is fun

[wild prairie]

Mono-Psychic calls out to me even though I really shouldn't do it

[lusty valley]

singles or doubles?

[wild prairie]

Singles probably, but I don't think I'll do it either way

[lusty valley]

fair

I enjoy it, especially because you have the advantage of knowing the meta threats better than they know your answers

[snow wren]

been considering a mono ghost team myself

[manic kindle]

I hit my season 1 goal

1900 rating

[obtuse ravine]

[snow wren]

Nice, what’s your team?

[obtuse ravine]

that's awesome possum

[manic kindle]

Meganium just feels so good

[obtuse ravine]

ikr

[snow wren]

I got blindsided by that fairy typing first time I fought it

Doubles or singles team?

I wonder how far mega abomasnow will take me before I feel im forced to drop them. They’ve really been impressing me but they’ve got a terrible defensive typing

[manic kindle]

Doubles only for me

I do not enjoy 3v3 singles

[snow wren]

Doubles definitely has more interesting decisions

[wispy yarrow]

Much less wonder over which pokemon will be targeted yeah

[lusty valley]

hell yeah, grats!

[quiet galleon]

I saw a mega glalie turn 1 explosion the other day

[languid lichen]

based

[pliant violet]

tryna blow up and act like I don't know nobody

[wild prairie]

What are the Pelipper and Meganium EV spreads specialized for?

[pliant violet]

being hated enemies

I lie, I think my rain matchup is usually pretty good

[timber vale]

I need to hop back on

But also I don't want to roll for a team

Because I just wanna build with the blorbos I like

[snow wren]

I wish champions woukd keep track of trick room and weather turn countdowns

[obtuse ravine]

if you press X, it shows you

and there's a setting to have it appear at the top of the screen 1 at a time, though i usually just use Battle Info anyways

[manic kindle]

Meganium to be 1 speed slower than my tailwind setter while outspeeding everything relevant in tailwind

Pelipper eats 2 jolly dire claws more reliably

[wild prairie]

Neat

[snow wren]

Should I make my scizor to outspeed incinerator normally or under speed them in trick room

[manic kindle]

whats the scizor's gameplan? just clicking bullet punch, or trying to set up something?

[obtuse ravine]

😭

[red rampart]

What

[quiet galleon]

It has refrigerate so explosion becomes ice type and more powerful I guess?

[manic kindle]

you fought the actual Coral from Pokemon Horizons of turn 1 "mega glalie use explosion" fame

[snow wren]

Good question, I’m not certain
I was thinking a counter to mons like incin and kimgsambit with close combat while also checking fairies like whimsicott that can turn off my trick room

And yes sneasler does that better

Abom and golurk are my main sweepers but I’m looking for a rhyperior to replace golurk

[arctic dagger]

So in general what I've seen for scizor is bullet/bug bite/sword dance/protect

So it's trying to set up, but also bug bite has CRAZY utility atm

Because so many pokemon are using berries

[quiet galleon]

Scizor close combat only does like 72%-86% to 32/14 incin even without intimidate

[snow wren]

Dang that’s annoying

You know what would be hilarious? Bidoof getting a third stage. It might be comp viable since it would possibly wall basculegion

[quiet galleon]

Mega bibarel

Or it could be like dunsparce and its bibibarel

[arctic dagger]

Bibibarelel

[snow wren]

Had asic win streak ended by a fissure no guard team

Six

Would’ve won if I’d remembered incin had fake out

Rhyperior has been the right call for this team

Her and abom in trick room is extremely hard for teams to deal with

[snow wren]

anything that can shrug off the ice and rock stab spread moves has to contend with grass/ ground single target moves. I'm thinking of trying rhyperior with earthquake since abom resists it

since the miss chance on rock slide hurts

[soft isle]

Aaron "Cybertron" Zheng is never going to live down the Will-O-Wisp Incident is he

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) Just saw a milotic do a triple protect into surviving a max power last respects to win the game, wha… 📎

[snow wren]

Missed multiple wisps in a row im guessing?

[soft isle]

He missed five in a row

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--Vm1IaDZ0

[obtuse ravine]

whoaaa, champions has reconnection to battles

that's nice

[snow wren]

Oh confusion was 50% in past? That makes sense

[arctic dagger]

https://youtu.be/2Ngj5VVRn2c

This is cool

I like this kind of video

[soft isle]

It was hell

Anthropodlogist ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) Oh confusion was 50% in past? That makes sense

[azure crane]

One of my pet movesets in Adv was a Dunsparce with Serene Grace and Headbutt/Rock Slide/Water Pulse/Body Slam.

It got more than a couple rage quits on NetBattle.

[snow wren]

I’d played older games as a kid and could’ve sworn it was worse but paralyze isn’t that bad in champions

[soft isle]

You monster

Zemyla recommends UNCLE 🌇🔔 ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) One of my pet movesets in Adv was a Dunsparce with Serene Grace and Headbutt/Rock Slide/Water Pulse/…

(I loved doing the same)

[snow wren]

I’ve found wisp more accurate too since I often have Mimi use that once trick room is set up

[quiet galleon]

Wonder if I should run taunt on my aerodactyl and it might be able to replace tailwind in most matchups I use it? While adding a lot of utility

[snow wren]

Taunt is the one thing mimikyu fears while setting up trick room

[quiet galleon]

Yeah

The main issue with taunt into trick room leads is redirection I think but idk if Ive seen that style in the current format

[snow wren]

Matches aren’t going great sadly

Loosing streak

Incin basc opener

Actually won that thanks rotom

Hydreigon is a great mom but I don’t think they’re great in the context of my trick room team

[snow wren]

Wonder if scizor is worth keeping on my team

Rotom helps with pelipper and incin but scizor doesn’t do much to push trick room and has the exact same weaknesses as my other mega

And given all the water types ive been running into lately her grass typing is meaningful

Should try mega kangaskan since that is decent into basc and ive got a pair of ghosts for safe switches

[snow wren]

Hmm they’re actually quite fast

[arctic dagger]

https://youtu.be/MDx7Ns9uoR4

Video on the watchog

Highest win % pokemon in the Tournament was Watchog

(Small sample sizes are really funny)

I think it's legit just that there's so few good normal types

And having a normal type is actually pretty good atm because of how much ghost damage is out there

But mostly it's not bringing anything SUPER exciting, I feel like they'd probably have been better off with a Snorlax or something

[pliant violet]

Belly drum snorlax with leftovers

[snow wren]

wonder how snorlax would work in my trick room team, I've already got rhyperior and mega abomasnow and was thinking of replacing mega scizor with another mega though

[obtuse ravine]

gonna start working on a cheat sheet of what my mons cover and what they should be scared of, as well as some common teams and strategies out there

lost a game because i let meganium get sludge bombed turn 1

[snow wren]

I'm lacking in fairy and dark type counters tbh

sneasler is there but trick room poses issues for them once its up

y brother is already in great ball, which took me a few days, he's there in like 1

[arctic dagger]

Mega Venusaur is a good answer to fairy and archaludon

I've found

And pretty good vs a lot of water types in general ofc

Obz not great vs Dark

I tend to answer Dark with my low kick Tyranitar

I like bug vs dark a lot, but uh, a lot of dark is actually just Incin atm, and you don't really want to be bug/steel vs fire XD

[snow wren]

I have mimikyu but they don't reliably ohko dark types

[arctic dagger]

Oh, shoutout to Araquanid tho'

It's slow as balls

So it fits well in trick room

I know @lusty valley was using it to good effect, can probably say more if you're interested.

[snow wren]

i've been using rotom wash

[manic kindle]

Very true, i get nervous seeing it in team preview

Such a tanky beast

[lusty valley]

I like it, its slow and bulky and hits really hard. Water bubble boosts its liquidation and means it cant be burned. Biggest issue is its vulnerable to a lot of meta threats (rockslide, dual wingbeat, lightning moves, etc)

but it learns protect and wideguard, it has bug moves for hitting dark dytpes, mirror coat if you feel fancy, etc

its also really nice at taking advantage of enemies rain

[manic kindle]

Wide Guard is soooo nice

[lusty valley]

it really is

Wehn I was first climbing with whatever I had in my box I used to run a pelipper araquanid lead

where both of them had wideguard

so I could alternate wide guard and liquidation into rock sliders and wide guard and hurricane into matcha gatcha

[manic kindle]

My pelipper is mostly a wide guard machine at this rate

[snow wren]

I've honestly not run into wide guard pelipper, that would really mess up my day

since I try to get trick room set up then spam rock slide and blizzard

[lusty valley]

my pelipper currently has hurricane wide guard protect and rain dance

should I ahve weather ball, probably

but its real disruptive

[obtuse ravine]

wide guard has been really nice on pelipper and aerodactyl for me yeah

[pliant violet]

they both tail wind too, makes you think

[obtuse ravine]

weird that the game let me bring duplicate mons

[quiet galleon]

Wide guard goes hard

[obtuse ravine]

🙂‍↕️

was playing against a friend yesterday, got them down to 2 mons, then encored eruption with lopunny and wide guarded while bunny cleaned up

and I learned encore doesn't have a cooldown! I thought there would be some protection built in after the last turn, but you can just use it again with no problem

[quiet galleon]

Yep!

As long as youre fast enough basically, which lopunny almost always is. They might protect

But then you can encore protect hehe

[pliant violet]

encore is one of the strongest moves in the game

slow encore is it's own niche of annoying usefulness

[karmic imp]

Yeah 3 heads are good for paying attention to kids

[quiet galleon]

Getting schooled in the grand challenge

Or whatever it is in champions

[pliant violet]

to master or champion rank

[quiet galleon]

global challenge ye

[obtuse ravine]

oh no

i forgot to update my team for it

welp, time to learn how to play a second team

[pliant violet]

play a third, secret team

[snow wren]

I hate the extra team and box space is locked behind subscription instead of a payment especially since you probably looses the mons if you stop paying

[pliant violet]

there's a beginner pack that I believe gets some box spaces and teams

[quiet galleon]

https://app-pcs.pokemon-support.com/hc/en-us/articles/56481330687385-What-happens-to-the-Pokémon-in-my-Box-when-my-membership-expires

[civic mountain]

any gamers wanna throw a Go referral code at me

[snow wren]

What is even the point of mega audino?

Also man I just always use the same four mons, scizor rarely comes out and sinitchea is mostly a reserve for emergencies

[snow wren]

I should consider making my team hybrid trick room tailwind with rotom wash as the pivot

[manic kindle]

Mega Audino is a really big and bulky support, from a game design pov
its just usually not worth using your mega on Support

[arctic dagger]

And when it is

There's better options like Sableeye usually

I'd put Sableye, Slowbro, the weather setters as being better support pieces tbh

Scovillain

And then maybe some of the ones we don't know the abilities yet?

Healer is just too unreliable to be generally strong in that way

And is playable around by your opponent pretty easy usually

If you REALLY want the Healer type effect, bring a Misty Surge pokemon instead probably

Although neither are in the current format I guess but

[quiet galleon]

Sometimes pokemon is not very good

[arctic dagger]

IDK run prankster misty terrain meowstic

[quiet galleon]

Especially ones that arent more recent

[arctic dagger]

Boom no status in the first place

If Mega Audino made your pokemon just immune to status I could see it maybe having a role?

It IS hella bulky

And fairy/normal is pretty good typing

I think it just has an ability that does nothing mostly

I could see like, screens/wave/gleam or something maybe if it had a real ability?

God its movelist is SO short too...

It doesn't even have most of the good team moves

Oh no, it has a way better moveset in champs than it did in gen9 at least

Life Dew(Heal Pulse)/Helping Hand/Protect/Screens in some combo is decent

Anyway that's a lot of words to say "Other stuff does job better."

[manic kindle]

if i was going to run a support mega rn it would be mega clefable

fairy/flying follow me to pair with an earthquake abuser is really nice

[snow cobalt]

https://onebitart.tumblr.com/post/815214607468838912

終わらない夏の中

jirachi gijinka

-# #pokemon #pokemon gijinka #jirachi

Tumblr · Apr 29, 2026, 7:53 AM

[quiet galleon]

Til that min speed paralysed aegislash speed ties min speed torkoal

[snow wren]

Torkaol is just so slow in troom

[snow cobalt]

Why does Azelf explode

[manic kindle]

Big head

[peak island]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/5610000/5610399_676402_mega-kot_untitled-5610399.f938c72f28a600fb3578661d87e7a10b.gif?f1712910182

[pliant violet]

and it hits so hard

[snow wren]

I’ve been using abomasnow still myself

[obtuse ravine]

hello pokemon chat!

today I learned about Queenly Majesty 🙂‍↕️

[pliant violet]

it's just armour tail, yep

[obtuse ravine]

but only for tsareena itself?

[languid lichen]

n

[obtuse ravine]

oh

😔

[languid lichen]

queenly majesty was spread

dazzling was selfish

then armor tail got added as a QM clone

[obtuse ravine]

[languid lichen]

or wait lemme check actually

i think i remember seeing someone nug bruxish buddies but that doesn't sound right

okay yeah they all cover allies

[obtuse ravine]

[quiet galleon]

kinda like protean and libero are identical

or pure power and huge power

[languid lichen]

yuh

some clones aren't true, though

...i should probably mention some

Water Bubble and Steelworker are both [Type*1.5], but Steelworker hits allies and bubble doesn't, and bubble also just does extra wacky wahoo things

(immune to burn, 50% fire reduction)

er, sorry, that's steely spirit

steelworker is the same but only ST

and then Transistor and Dragon's Maw matched steelworker, but then Transistor got nerfed to 1.3

[quiet galleon]

I think water bubble is x2 and stacks with stab?

[timber vale]

Isn't water bubble 2x?

[languid lichen]

is it? i swear to god it's 50%

(oh right rocky payload is another type 1.5x)

[quiet galleon]

dragon maw, steelworker, rocky payload, and pre nerf transistor are all typed variants though yeah

[languid lichen]

and then steely spirit is them but also hits allies

[timber vale]

It's double

[languid lichen]

vvack

oh, and then Full Metal Body (solgaleo) and Shadow Shield (lunala) are clear body/multiscale respectively...except they're immune to mold breaker

[timber vale]

Wait fr? That's sick as hell, I never knew that

[languid lichen]

yep, but necrozma's prism armor isn't

[timber vale]

...???????

[languid lichen]

it just functions as normal for solid rock/filter

[manic kindle]

Lost a set today to Boomburst Soundproof Kommo-o and Pixilate Copycat Sylveon. Man.

[arctic dagger]

That's cool as fuck

[snow wren]

was feeling a little down about how fast my brother was climbing the ranks in comparison to me; then saw his team and its garchomp, mega tyranitar, aerodactyl, sneasler, incineroar and whimsicott, which explains things

[arctic dagger]

Pretty good sand team base yeah

If people aren't set up to know what to do vs it, it'll probably just run over a lot of people at lower ranks

Hit them really hard is a good strategy

[manic kindle]

T-tar in Sand is just a huge stat stick

but also yeah, you will climb easier if you use the good pokemon

[manic kindle]

super cool; they had a noivern on team select and i wonder if it was telepathy w boomburst also

[peak island]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/3098000/3098826_mega-kot_materialize.gif?f1678876717

[peak island]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/5078000/5078681_24041_mega-kot_untitled-5078681.0f80f14b21c1318ad3eb6af4c8968aba.gif?f1695815295

[pliant violet]

https://youtu.be/dc3ZAUjQRCA?si=jp9wgZsx99eL2EFE

[obtuse ravine]

i’ve been ahead of the curve 🙂‍↕️

i’m a meta trailblazer with my bunny and flower creature

[pliant violet]

dual megas have been popular ish since launch, I think part of the rise is just the rise of aerodactyl

[obtuse ravine]

how goes the battling reggie

[pliant violet]

it goes, I'm not the best so I'm in low master

also I'm not running a mega which doesn't help but c'est a vie

[quiet galleon]

I feel like my team is lagging a bit but idk if I have the energy to fix it lol

Still winning a bit tho

[pliant violet]

I win ever so slightly more than I lose

[quiet galleon]

Just yeah a big meta shift after that tournament

Idk if big is the right word but yeah

[pliant violet]

not sure it's even a shift so much as evidence of the shift

season ends soon iirc

[quiet galleon]

Mm

Im excited for more megas to come out

Specifically mega mawile I think

[pliant violet]

I don't think we'll get anything till after next season is done

[quiet galleon]

Maybe

It is like a/b

Oh

Wait no the m-a lasts till june lmao

I guess thats what youre saying

[pliant violet]

that's a regulation not a season

[quiet galleon]

Yeah

[pliant violet]

I'm talking champions ladder seasons, then new reg comes about after the end of next season, which is likely when new pokemon drop

[quiet galleon]

Mhm

Yeah I just didnt realise that there were multiple seasons within a reg

[pliant violet]

yee

[quiet galleon]

Maybe I should work on my team then

Or make a new one

[pliant violet]

I just want mega golisopod, I deserve it

idk if any other slow megas will drop in the new reg

[obtuse ravine]

awesome

[pliant violet]

I'm having fun, and I wasn't particularly worried about topping the ladder anyway

[obtuse ravine]

are there separate seasonal rewards for singles and doubles

[obtuse ravine]

🙂‍↕️

[pliant violet]

probably? idk what the seasonal rewards are though

[obtuse ravine]

I'm trying the rain team i accidentally entered the competition with

fun and slightly different from my main team

might set a ranked goal in the future, but for now I'm just having fun learning to read

[pliant violet]

do you have opinions on the bridge?

[obtuse ravine]

haven't used it much yet, but i will try it

[blissful needle]

These words are not in the bible

[timber vale]

Majority

[blissful needle]

did someone really made that?

[azure crane]

https://bible.lorte.software/

[runic umbra]

truly a window into a very specific corner of the internet.

[blissful needle]

saw it on stunfisk

[blissful needle]

same place that gave us "ferrothorn is homophobic"

[runic umbra]

what

[blissful needle]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/stunfisk/comments/wo6rj9/theorymon_slowbro_comes_out_as_gay_most_other/

[runic umbra]

and there I thought competitive pokémon was boring

[blissful needle]

listen only the place where you can find these kinds of sentences is the places that cultivate that hyper autistic fixation

[arctic dagger]

Neat concept: Pokemon with Guts using indiscriminate moves along with Mega Scovillain to burn themselves

[snow wren]

I didn’t know oranguru had that mentor move, can see why they were a premier trick setter, being able to dpam surf or earthquake while doubling it and not getting hit could be strong

But they just die to incineroar in the current meta

[arctic dagger]

Note: The Paldea champ woulda made a lot more sense with her glimmora in the back if it had been a mega-glimmora

[languid lichen]

https://bsky.app/profile/telsonknife.bsky.social/post/3mkzf2yvj6c2t

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Black creature will touch and kiss!

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Bluesky · May 4, 2026, 9:43 AM

[obtuse ravine]

@glacial ore

[snow cobalt]

https://bsky.app/profile/zodacoo.bsky.social/post/3ml2qvm3kw22i

zoda coo (@zodacoo.bsky.social)

23 years ago I came up with the OC "Jeans Absol": an Absol wearing JNCO jeans. This is my first time drawing them since

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Bluesky · May 4, 2026, 10:47 PM

[fickle thicket]

jabsol

[fickle thicket]

most of them-

[fickle thicket]

RATS

[pliant violet]

@obtuse ravine just finishing off losing this match

[obtuse ravine]

got my venusaur from the challenge, now i can start a sun team if i want

[pliant violet]

ooh

[obtuse ravine]

I'll make a room

invite sent

[pliant violet]

cheers, I actually think I'm goated and about to win

[obtuse ravine]

shell yeah

[pliant violet]

turned it around through the power of sneasler and making some good protect reads

[obtuse ravine]

shell yeah

[pliant violet]

opponent is taking a long time to pick a move in a checkmated scenario

and I refuse to quit out against a staller

[obtuse ravine]

get that dub

[pliant violet]

got that dub

my first private battle

[obtuse ravine]

come get another

[pliant violet]

no no, I meant this is

[obtuse ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/lopunny-gif-25770387

[pliant violet]

https://tenor.com/view/hydrapple-pokemon-gif-12763333580664552202

your team has 3 really solid potential megas and yet the scariest thing is a dragon jet

ooh wide guard aero, slick

[obtuse ravine]

i have made a horrible mistake

[pliant violet]

oh no

[obtuse ravine]

i forgot that palafin was supposed to come in next, pelipper being slow overrode that thought in my mind

[pliant violet]

slow but not slow enough it turns out

[obtuse ravine]

yepp

lopunny had an encore queued up on the trick room but it got exploded

[pliant violet]

yee, I was fine with sneasler dropping turn 1 since that'd mean I almost certainly got tr up and I'd get a free pivot

[obtuse ravine]

🙂‍↕️

berry good

[pliant violet]

I got omega owned

[obtuse ravine]

🌼

[pliant violet]

ggs, good set

[obtuse ravine]

i was thinking you might reset trick room but forgot it's like -5 priority

so i weather balled instead of protecting

ggs!!

[pliant violet]

I was considering it, but figured I'd put the pressure on

tbf if you do protect you just delay it a turn because I sucker punch hypervoice then

[obtuse ravine]

mm yeah

[pliant violet]

I figured with the success of megaganium game 2 you'd use it game 3 which helps kingambit

[obtuse ravine]

yeahh that's an explosive matchup

[pliant violet]

and I knew I needed to neuter the aero

[obtuse ravine]

you got me good

[pliant violet]

tbf game 2 you exploded me explosively

trick room often lives and dies pretty extremely, though gambit is an exception because holy shit it's sucker punches

[obtuse ravine]

[pliant violet]

sadly did not get to make hydrapple shine but your team is unkind to it, two hard hitting fliers and a fairy type

[obtuse ravine]

yeahhh, i was considering lopunny for it too

[pliant violet]

ice spinner yeah

[obtuse ravine]

but it was covered

much to learn...

[pliant violet]

they say, having almost beat me

[obtuse ravine]

lost a match to a blizzard freeze on turn 1 after a correct read

so it goes

[pliant violet]

f

[obtuse ravine]

both can be true 🙂‍↕️

i haven't seen a hydrapple before

[pliant violet]

that's because it is not the best

and tr at all is rareish

[obtuse ravine]

mhmm

i don't know how to deal with it

[pliant violet]

TR or hydrapple

[obtuse ravine]

TR

[pliant violet]

stall it out as much as possible

or stop it going up

[obtuse ravine]

ah yeah

the latter is the part i have trouble with..

I'm alright at trying to stall it out, but i need more practice

[pliant violet]

any aerodactyl rockslide was spooky, the flinch threat is real

[obtuse ravine]

thanks again for sparring

[obtuse ravine]

[pliant violet]

np, was good fun

[obtuse ravine]

my current strat is to bring a dps and a rock slider and gun for farigiraf I guess

does physical or special work better on it?

[pliant violet]

even, depends how it's been trained

[obtuse ravine]

[snow wren]

I’ve been using rhyperior trick room alongside mega abomasnow and they melt things

[arctic dagger]

https://youtu.be/Ej7QeR9nci8

[round perch]

https://bsky.app/profile/thelen0.bsky.social/post/3ml4ekt5vyc25

THelen (COMMS FULL) (@thelen0.bsky.social)

Archaeology PhD queen
#pokemon

Bluesky · May 5, 2026, 2:12 PM

[arctic dagger]

Is anyone else using Aegislash?

I've been going Flash Cannon/Shadow Ball/Wide Guard/King Shield, but I've seen more physical than special I think

When I see other people using it

Poltergeist just fails so often, both from accuracy and from enemies not having items sometimes, and Shadow Claw seems... Rough

Also I guess my team is already 4/6 physical even without it lmao

Uh, for reference at this point I'm going megaTtar, mega venusaur, spell tag aegislash, herb mamoswine, choice aero, focus arcanine, but I've been thinking of swapping aero out for corviknight.

Sneaslers have been adapting more to the aeros, so I don't always get to just free kill them like I was for a bit, and my matchup into charizard Y is already pretty strong IMO so I'm not super worried about the extra fire weakness, which I think is the only main issue?

[arctic dagger]

Also just saw another psychic terrain with mega gard, except it was ALSO a trick room team, using meowstic to either set psychic terrain or trick room based on MU

[manic kindle]

ive on/off tested specialSlash; i agree with you that poltergeist is like... when its good its really good but its rough losing matches cuz i cant Use it

[quiet galleon]

Ive been running wide guard lefties slash

I was running poltergeist iron head but yeah switching to having the special damage is kinda nice if it balances out your team

My other core special attacker is vanilluxe so it kinda struggles into the physical bulky steel types sometimes

I think also like poltergeist is yeah less than reliable even if it is really good? It feels like physical is more about enabling fighting move and shadow sneak

And wide guard takes up one of those move slots

Not worrying about will o wisp or intimidate is nice too

[arctic dagger]

Lefties?

[soft isle]

Leftovers

[arctic dagger]

Ahhh

[snow wren]

will o wisp is a favorite move of mine

[umbral hound]

discuss

[soft isle]

Sylveon is clearly bnuuy

[snow wren]

imagine if we end up getting a regi pair with 200 attack/sp.atk

[timber vale]

Umbreon feels more neutral to me, even if that's because I feel it has cat stuff and dog stuff in equal amounts

[arctic dagger]

They're all bunny/dog/cat things tbh

[snow wren]

vaporeon always read as otter to me

[worldly plume]

umbreon is a fox

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