And thus Alolan Ninetails would love to have both Snow Warning and Slush Rush
#POKÉMON CENTER
arctic dagger
deft path
that is quite true
mellow robin
excadrill comes to mind
tho I know sand isn't great rn
pliant violet
Sand isn’t far from playable
soft isleBOT
I think evasion articuno was used in one of the formats for a bit
TohuBohu ↩️
sudden spade
Fear Duraludon with Light Metal and Heavy Metal 😛
(I went looking for the most pointless ability combo)
More seriously: Garganacl with Sturdy and Purifying Salt.
Can't be one shot and it can't be hit with non-volatile status effects.
Alternatively: Purifying Salt and Clear Body would be kinda disgusting Curse/Recover/Stalt Cure/Earthquake build.
'Can't drop my stats or status effect me, better kill me before I get some curses going on you're in for a bad time'
pliant violet
More seriously: Garganacl with Sturdy and Purifying Salt.
I was thinking tyrunt
arctic dagger
Rock Head and Strong Jaw don't overlap unfortunately
USeful for the baby version I supose
Solid Rock + Swift Swim Shell Smash Carracosta
Maybe
Sand Stream + Sand Force Gigalith
Sturdy+Magnet Pull Magnezone is kinda neat
Relicanth with both Swift Swim AND rock head might be able to do something
pliant violet
Rock Head and Strong Jaw don't overlap unfortunately
tyrunt has sturdy not rockhead
arctic dagger
Like I said, useful for the baby version I suppose
pliant violet
Oh does tantrum rock head in place of sturdy, my bad
languid lichen
Rock Head and Strong Jaw don't overlap unfortunately
rock head and strong jaw overlap in that tyrantrum has head smash and then earthquake for things that don't die to head smash
fire fang becomes that but for corviknight
or skarm, or like
bronzong lmao
runic umbra
this is one of those where it just looks a lot better in the still image
also dragonite has always looked shite
azure crane
I hope we get Mega Flygon. We were robbed the first time.
arctic dagger
deft path
excadrill comes to mind
tho I know sand isn't great rn
not enough good rock/ground types to be worth
thats the main problem with it these days
soft isleBOT
sos chaining my beloved
first it was 41 to a shiny
then 17
we have just reached 500 across multiple resets past 50 for various reasons, primarily PP limits. we are definitely within theoretical odds. why have you forsaken me
i just want a shiny trapinch, girl. can you do that for me
must i really train up 3 more optimized gyaradoses to find my beloved
soft isleBOT
SOS chaining is SuMo/USUM right?
we had amazing luck doing that when we were fishing for a shiny Eevee
languid lichen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxwggBzrgDw
this is a twenty minute video that feels like it should be five or six
the script really fucking meanders
big ups for the dog though
arctic dagger
I mean, this is just what he does tbh
The meandering is part of the draw for many of his fans
But yes if youw ant the actual just information uhhh
Yeah
soft isleBOT
i mean 17 for a yungoos is nuts
Makenzie ΘΔ (it/its) 🐺🌲 ↩️
let me calculate those odds rq
the chance of rolling 40 4096-sided dice and one of them turning up the desired face is 0.0097%
(shiny rolls in sos chains are 1 for 0–10, 5 for 11–20, 9 for 21–30, and 13 for 31+)
oh hold on
i should be inputting 45 4096-sided dice
honestly at that point it's gonna be a minimal difference
0.0109% actually that's a lot higher
Ooh 👀
Unfortunately you can’t catch them, if the community gets 1 million victories it’ll go out as a mystery gift
azure crane
Nothing really works well with Electro Ball, because virtually everything is trying to max out its Speed.
Gyro Ball works because it goes against the trend.
Even Regieleki prefers Thunderbolt, and it's got 200 base speed.
pliant violet
sullen mesa
oh...
soft isleBOT
damn you, math
pliant violet
I hope not ZA
Yes
arctic dagger
Welp.
azure crane
runic umbra
it's not easy being green
languid lichen
this goes hard
soft isleBOT
this one hurt. really hurt
guess i'll flip the coin again in a couple days
final chain count today: 220
obtuse ravine
air slash 😌
soft isleBOT
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/1m9fxq0/psa_claim_wei_chyrs_rillaboom_before_it_expires/ in case anyone hasn’t done this yet
manic kindle
Extremely exciting
red rampart
https://bsky.app/profile/foxlett.bsky.social/post/3luqmwayzss2u
\ @merry hollow
soft isleBOT
Man, I have way better luck. Third mon I encountered at the Trainer's School was a shiny Meowth. I called him Sasha, because he looks a little like a Russian blue. I wasn't even Shiny hunting. I just wanted a Brave or Sassy Grimer with Poison Touch that I could call Hexxus.
Mals (she/her) | eggs_box system ↩️
That's 2000 encounters in that patch of grass to guarantee that combination, by the way. I got it in 117.
Mals is going to kill me when she gets back.
soft isleBOT
Good news: I got a Timid Noivern with Frisk, and it only took 102 Noivern encounters.
I am less pleased at his soft spot being the middle of his ear hole. Gamefreak, please explain to me how that would not be excruciating. Yes, I know he's a dragon fruit bat. Yes, that is why I called him Drat. But his nose being the no-go zone and his ear hole being the soft spot? Unacceptable. Get this 'mon an advocate.
…Come to think of it, how the fuck is it that the closest we've come to a Pokémon translator is the Rotomdex, who refuses to translate, and just collecting a shitload of Unown?
soft isleBOT
this is going to be interesting
will we build an entire team just to run one of our sleeper favorites (Deoxys)? Absolutely yes
pliant violet
which one
soft isleBOT
hard to say which one's gonna be the pick, aside from it definitely not being defense forme
soft isleBOT
not sure you need quite that much speed unless you're trying to outspeed CSR or something
arctic dagger
Oh sick they're finally allowing mythicals
soft isleBOT
consensus seems to be that the main Pokemon to watch out for with mythicals allowed are Magearna and Arceus with maaaaybe Deoxys
arctic dagger
Vaguely surprised not to see Marshadow/Zeraora
Zeroara I guess has the uh, electric/dragon box legendary now
As strong competition
So that makes sense
soft isleBOT
don't think Zeraora is in S/V
deft path
https://bsky.app/profile/serebii.bsky.social/post/3lvcb3tqy5s2w
WHAT
THEYRE ALLOWING MYTHICAL???
soft isleBOT
They sure are!
trail bridge
Arceus Steel (Arceus Flying) moments HERE WE COME
deft path
Arceus Steel (Arceus Flying) moments HERE WE COME
Unfortunately this doesn't work in vgc 😭
trail bridge
aww
deft path
open team sheets means you get to see exactly what plates they have
trail bridge
😔 shame
deft path
You can also toggle nickname display off
arctic dagger
I've always been a proponent of open teams but not open sheets
Ifeel like items and moves are too far
deft path
i feel like i;d agree there
i think it was implemented to help cut down on how many pokemons moves you'd need to memorise but like, that's part of the fun to me
arctic dagger
The "Does this pokemon have a sash" minigame is always a really fun one to me
"Is that choice locked or did they just click the same move twice and were faster than me anyway?"
It also opens up some more interesting things you can do with EV surprises
With open sheets there's much less interest things you can do to EV spec to defend against certain moves/pokemonm
peak island
sullen mesa
we needed a poison eevee decades ago
soft isleBOT
we needed a ghost eevee and dragon eevee forever ago
thing is people assume a pokémon turning into ghost type indicates they die, but it's more in line with the japanese yokai folklore of touching the spirit world and never being able to be untouched
and there's pokémon where that's already the case, so why 8 eevees. why not more.
give us bug eevee. give us more fluffy bugs, game freak. give us steel eevee that's eevee in a mech suit
wispy yarrow
Flying type: Pineon
Steel type: Armeon
Bug type: Chiteon
Poison type: Toxeon
Fighting type: Champeon
Dragon type: Scaleon
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🤔 ground eevee... or rock eevee
wispy yarrow
Ground type: Quakeon
Rock type: Canyeon
trail bridge
okay Canyeon is SUCH an inspired name
wispy yarrow
I'm personaly proud of Pineon
Mounteon is also workable for Ground, especially if it bucks all current trends and makes them more goat-like
I did a fanmade region for a tabletop game I made once, and I rather liked my ghost type
Mummeon
Which was before Sylveon, funny enough, so the design was kinda similar but instead of ribbons it was bandages
trail bridge
👀
trail bridge
I'm personaly proud of Pineon
uhhh is this the pinion you're talking about or
oH
the Pinion part of the bird
wispy yarrow
No, the pinion(feather)
trail bridge
right
wispy yarrow
lol
azure crane
I think, at some point in the future, there should be a Pokémon game where the Ultra Beasts or Paradoxes get hidden abilities, as a result of living in the present world for a while.
Guzzlord would obviously have Gluttony, for instance, or Queenly Majesty for Pheromosa.
arctic dagger
And Paradox get something other than their base ability
For the love of god
Yes
Thank you
arctic dagger
mellow robin
I want a rock-type Obsideon that's crystal-y
arctic dagger
Interesting mathematical modeling of type power
Obviously doesn't take into account movepools etc
What a weird type set.
Can't hit bug, immune to grass and fairy.
I'm trying to think of thematics here that could possibly fit that lmao.
My first thought is it's clearly Crab type, which refuses to hit its fellow bugs
Oh, they call it Titan type, that's neat.
Makes a circle with Dragon/Titan/Fairy
deft path
and there's pokémon where that's already the case, so why 8 eevees. why not more...
They've stuck fairly hard to special eevees only so maybe dragon Eevee one day
arctic dagger
Wuh? Flareon and Leafeon are both physical attackers IIRC
Oh wait you mean from before the types had multiple attack types yeah
deft path
yeah the gen I/II type split instead of the modern system
manic kindle
dragon eevee one day...
sudden spade
This just reminded me that in gen I/II ghost was physical for some reason. XD
arctic dagger
Yeah, that one is
No one knows
There's literally only one Ghost type in gen 1, and it's Gengar
The only attacking move is Lick
30 power
I guess that's why it's physical
Because Night Shade isn't really physical or special
Gen2 got Shadow Ball but uh
pliant violet
ghost type being so bad early is part of why psychic was so dominant
obsidian stump
This just reminded me that in gen I/II ghost was physical for some reason. XD
Physical in gen 3 too. It only got freed with the gen 4 split
Ope, didn't mean to ping
sudden spade
Physical in gen 3 too. It only got freed with the gen 4 split
Ikiryo cut its HP and put a curse on Cheese
obsidian stump
Semi related fun fact
Dark was Special pre split, but when it did split in gen 4, every single existing dark move became physical
snow cobalt
poltergeists use physical props or something idk
arctic dagger
I literally think it's just that Lick was the only Ghost type attack move
And it's physically licking you
So they made it physical
runic umbra
Dark was Special pre split, but when it did split in gen 4, every single existin...
I never quite got why moves like feint or bite were considered dark type.
I guess they are considered fighting dirty?
obsidian stump
I'm pretty sure that's the idea yeah
soft isleBOT
gen vi
Cheese (She/Her, Not They) ↩️
manic kindle
Yeah, since dark type is "evil type", its the dirty/underhanded fighting pokemon
runic umbra
that makes its strength against psycho kinda funny.
"bite the levitating demigod in the shins"
languid lichen
that makes its strength against psycho kinda funny.
"bite the levitating demigo...
crush the omniscient eye of god, for it is enlightened and sees no evil
cut the benevolent throat of god, for it is untarnished and speaks no evil
arctic dagger
I never quite got why moves like feint or bite were considered dark type.
I gu...
It's important to remember that dark is evil type in Japanese
pliant violet
feints aren't like... evil though
deft path
feints aren't like... evil though
It's Japanese name is "sneak attack"
deft path
If you read th description its actually a sucker punch
pliant violet
you know I cannot read may
languid lichen
then they should've called it that
move names are, alas, sometimes wackier translations
manic kindle
you know I cannot read may
Proud of you regardless
deft path
there's so many early gen translations that are just not what the Japanese is at all
you'll see a move called "spirit blast" that does physical damage and then you look at the Japanese and it says "forceful exorcism"
I think the funniest example of This is that Night Slash in Japanese is "crossroad homicide"
arctic dagger
To be fair that's kind of hard to translate properly
soft isleBOT
meowscarada is evil type because weed is the devil's lettuce
murdoc (he/him) ↩️
languid lichen
also because cats are sinners
azure crane
Aerial Ace is some kind of swallow tail slash in Japanese, which is why it's enhanced by Sharpness.
deft path
meowscarada is evil type because it wears a mask which means its opposed to kamen riders actually
crude moon
manic kindle
meowscarada is evil type because it wears a mask which means its opposed to kame...
Very wonderful that the kamen rider bug can nail it for x4 damage
runic umbra
feints aren't like... evil though
feints are cool and fair
arctic dagger
IIRC the description is something like that they played dead and then jumped out and hit you
Not that they're doing a feint move
Or pretended to give up?
IDK it was clearly supposed to be like, mentally deceptive about not being in the fight anymore
IIRC
pliant violet
Isn’t false surrender the signature move of the grimsnarl line
arctic dagger
Here we go
"The user approaches the target disarmingly, then throws a sucker punch. It hits without fail. "
They're basically like, chatting you up and then WHAM
An example in the anime has a pokemon be like "WHAT'S THAT????" and then hit their opponent when they looked
LMAO
pliant violet
Me when I get you
runic umbra
nah I could dodge that
pliant violet
Me when I get you
runic umbra
also because cats are sinners
behold, a sinner
azure crane
Samurott, Skeledirge, and Swampert shouldn't be at that meeting. Their pre evolutions are bipedal.
Swampert is baffling. It goes from quadruped to biped to quadruped again.
pliant violet
Swampert is a quadruped the same way gorillas are
pliant violet
evil
arctic dagger
Lumineon is a secret Eevee
runic umbra
I don't take children from chad sans undertale
azure crane
Lumineon is a secret Eevee
As is Empoleon.
languid lichen
i prefer kecleon
languid lichen
this is still so fucked to see
timber vale
They completely banned sleep from gen 9 OU, right?
sudden spade
I understand it but there are a lot of pokemon who don't have much they can do without it.
arctic dagger
IDK about a lot
It's spore users and Darkrai mostly
Low accuracy sleep moves are very bad for the game imo, so generally speaking spore users are the main casualties
Of which there's not a lot
sudden spade
I do wonder how you'd tinker with confusion, paralysis and sleep to make them healthier...
arctic dagger
Paralysis could legit just be the speed reduction and it would still be good
sudden spade
I suppose frozen too but that one seems to be mostly solved by pretending it doesn't exist. XD
arctic dagger
Just make confusion cause 1/4 recoil or something
sudden spade
I'd like Frozen to end up special attack burned.
arctic dagger
Sleep is the exact same status as frozen with a different end condition
Yeah I mean that's just frostbite
sudden spade
Makes sense
languid lichen
I do wonder how you'd tinker with confusion, paralysis and sleep to make them he...
do what temtem does (it's a great game with bad handling)
sleep forces a wakeup when hit by a damaging move
arctic dagger
I'd like to see a reverse taunt too
Can only use non damaging moves
It would be a lot stronger than taunt though
Sleep always lasts two turns and ends on taking damage would work
Still very very strong
sudden spade
I'd agree with that, likely with some tinkering to sleep related moves.
Like dream eater having a provision for not waking the other guy up.
timber vale
It's spore users and Darkrai mostly
I remember there being a fucking deranged iron valiant set that ran hypnosis in its 4th slot but I don't think it was like. at all common so it's not really notable
arctic dagger
Yeah I remember that one but
I strongly dislike low accuracy sleep moves
XD
You just the roll the dice to win sometimes if you're faster even if nothing else could let you win
Sleep moves having low priority would help a lot actually
No one is that mad about slow spore users
Then the counter play is just hit them upside the head
Another possible option is sleep only works if the opponent isn't attacking
So it becomes an anti status/setup status
languid lichen
Sleep moves having low priority would help a lot actually
another thing i like about temtem, most of the sleep moves are really wacky and accuracy doesn't exist
the only equivalent is the evasion status, which autododges a move and is then consumed
i think there's a lot that pokemon can take from smaller critter games
runic umbra
I guess the yawning move (dunno what's it called in english) is a decent alternative. it works with a delay and indirectly forces the opponent to switch pokémon.
timber vale
Iirc it's just called Yawn
obsidian stump
it is, yeah
sudden spade
Yawn isn't bad, though I do think you'd find it hard to get more than 1-2 moves out of it if it became the default way sleep worked.
pliant violet
I think Frostbite is the way to go for frozen, because as is space for frozen is basically non-existent
for sleep having it be fixed length or fixed wakeup condition would do a lot
aside from that I'd be down for more volatile or non-volatile status conditions
and have types interact with them more
sudden spade
Breaking on direct damage would make swapping more of a fun factor. As you've got 'Hey, if you throw out an attack my sleepy boy resists, he'll get in and break the sleep'
pliant violet
like psychic types being immune to confusion is a pretty minimal change but I think it'd be fun
what got me thinking like that was dark types being immune to prankster status moves
which is cool and fun
sudden spade
That would be cute. I could see them expanding burn to like 'A penalty status effect for each stat'. As we have Attack and Speed (Though Paralyzed is more than just that) there.
sudden spade
Yeah. My worry with it is that it would push more towards hyperoffence when offence is kinda in a good place relative to stall right now.
timber vale
I really want to get into pokemon more, but I also kind of suck and am not sure how to start with improving
sudden spade
Frostbite becoming a thing would also help Ice types by being 'hey, guess what? You finally get a thing that water types won't just grab' 😛
pliant violet
I really want to get into pokemon more, but I also kind of suck and am not sure ...
being good is overrated
I am very bad at pokemon but I have a blast
sudden spade
Articuno going 'IMMUNE TO THE SPECIAL ATTACK DROP CONDITION, ASSHOLES!' would make that poor bird very happy.
pliant violet
Yeah. My worry with it is that it would push more towards hyperoffence when offe...
I think if you go with more conditions you gotta make them weird
timber vale
I am very bad at pokemon but I have a blast
Honestly fair, I mostly just check in on the smogon OMs and see if I can fuck around a little with the pokemon I like
Usually not.
pliant violet
like fighting types inflict reckless, which gves all your moves recoil
timber vale
But sometimes things vaguely work out
pliant violet
Honestly fair, I mostly just check in on the smogon OMs and see if I can fuck ar...
I like little cup if I'm venturing into that side of pokemon
timber vale
I kind of just want to team-build with pokemon that I like so I've been breaking into PU mostly
And metagames where enough can change for generally not so good pokemon to get something
sudden spade
I will say: A change to sleep that made you wake up if you took direct damage would need Rest to get a solid look at it. XD
As it suddenly becomes a much better stall move against 'I am going to keep clicking attack moves'
That said: Better than roost/slack off if the other guy is repeatedly attacking you, worse than roost if he isn't, isn't like...an inherently bad thing. More 'Hmm...would need to see how that ends up numbers-wise'
timber vale
I kind of just want to team-build with pokemon that I like so I've been breaking...
I might try Inheritance, seems like a decent way to try and make some of my favorite pokemon somewhat viable
Idk, maybe hisuian zoroark with boomburst? Heard it's a stall-heavy metagame, though...
pliant violet
That said: Better than roost/slack off if the other guy is repeatedly attacking ...
what if it meant you'd wake up after a turn
so you sleep one more turn after getting hit
sudden spade
nods
Could be fun.
Hisuian Zoroark is a pokemon that's really cool and I know why they made the changes but...man, I'd have loved to have seen it have a little time before Full Team Preview was a thing. Or at least, if it wasn't clear which one you're Illusioning (As Illusion is based on your order and team preview shows the full order you know which pokemon Zoroark is pretending to be, not just that the other guy has one). XD
timber vale
I also kind of wonder why the pokemon made to imitate other pokemon was then also given a signature move that would immediately give itself away
sudden spade
My personal wish with Illusion is that it let you just...pick one of the other five at the start of the battle before anything happens. So like it is set but it's not set on team preview. The other guy has the data that it exists but not 'Zoroark is pretending to be X'.
If that remotely makes sense?
timber vale
Yeah I understand what you mean
sudden spade
Also: Man, I wonder how Normal would get tinkered with to make it more of an actually desirable type. The lack of basicly anything going out and mostly only negatives coming it does it no favors.
timber vale
I mean, it has stab on some really good moves
Just that.. no pokemon with those moves are actually normal type for the most part, at least to my understanding
So... yeah, I'm wondering too.
arctic dagger
Yawn isn't bad, though I do think you'd find it hard to get more than 1-2 moves ...
I mean. That's the idea yes. 1 move breaks even and 2 is a really really big deal.
sudden spade
I mean. That's the idea yes. 1 move breaks even and 2 is a really really big d...
No I mean design-wise. There's a lot of sleep moves but sleep becoming like yawn in general would be difficult to get many moves out of. XD
arctic dagger
Oh. Yeah that's probably fine?
I mean, 30% chance to drowsy on hit
Drowsy turns into sleep after one turn
Boom you can throw it on attack moves
sudden spade
Speaking of sleep: Komala evolution gamefreak!
arctic dagger
Eh
I think goldengo has been pretty clear we want very few powerful Pokemon immune to status
If we get a komala evolution I do not want it to have the same ability
manic kindle
I mean, it has stab on some really good moves
Just that.. no pokemon with those...
historically we've had some very good normal STAB users!
Arceus w. Extreme Speed, Kangaskhan-Mega w. Return, Mega Lopunny w. Return/Quick Attack/Fake Out, Huge Power Diggersby w. Return/Quick Attack, Porygon-Z Hyper Beam, Staraptor Return in recent times
and in gen 1/2 ou/uu, normal types are oppressively good at abusing normal stab
theres less-successful but relevant strats lurking around too, like pre-dlc Sword/Shield with guts facade Obstagoon
sudden spade
I think goldengo has been pretty clear we want very few powerful Pokemon immune ...
As a counterpoint: I want both the Kangaroo and the Koala to have a chance to terrorize the game, out of australian pride.
And one of those two already got one of the most busted mega evolutions known to man. XD
'What if every move was actually two. Also: You get power up punch.'
arctic dagger
Don't forget Snorlax being super strong for a very long time
Blissey being a premier special wall
sudden spade
I don't think Snorlax or Blissy is an Australian animal?
arctic dagger
Responding to murdoc
sudden spade
Oh, right. XD
arctic dagger
Also Australia for sure has large lazy fat men
manic kindle
Don't forget Snorlax being super strong for a very long time
true! but blissey never used its normal stab, and i tried to cover snorlax with "look at gen 1/2"
body slam snorlax my beloved
gen 1 snorlax being immune to body slam paralysis is also just crazy
what a chad
manic kindle
world's smallest body press
arctic dagger
I mean with EVs her Defense is usually not that small but
XD
IDK she has flat damage anyway
manic kindle
oh good point whats a funnier neutral target
arctic dagger
Budew was my first thought, but also resistant
languid lichen
smoliv
arctic dagger
Wishiwashi?
languid lichen
wait shit first stage is normal
i keep forgetting that it's not just arboliva that's grass/normal
arctic dagger
LETS GOOOOO
languid lichen
pain-peko...
it hurts so fucking bad
to not have regen
goddamn duplicate ability clause
i had a snorlax@komala, but komala only getting wish and not slack off was agonizing
so i put the fucker back to cyclizar
but guh
manic kindle
ooo is this the inheritance thing
languid lichen
yeah, it's inh
i haven't played it in literal years
and i keep waffling back and forth
i really want the suicune because i've got a slush rush lando as a cleanup mon
but it's so fucking awkward to run a slowking inheritor with the pivot move and not regenerator
so i keep teetering between komala, cryogonal, and tsareena
and quaquaval
quaquaval has useless abilities, but access to actually functional recovery (unlike tsareena) and knock off for the infinite number of gholdengos (unlike cryogonal)
tsareena is otherwise great, but her sole recovery option is synthesis, which is fucked because i'm running snow
and cryogonal has almost everything - a useful ability for a moderately ground-weak team, body slam, recover, and even haze as a useful util option...but no knock off
meaning my only option into gholdengo is sit there, because cryogonal also doesn't get a pivot move
i think it's gotta be between quaquaval and tsareena, i'm just really torn on Having An Ability versus Having (good) Recovery
actually fuck it, hisuian avalugg time
languid lichen
this is glorpshit
pliant violet
what's inheritance?
mellow robin
smogon metagame of the month
your Pokemon gets an ability and movepool of another 'mon, replacing what they would normally have
languid lichen
ye
it's quite interesting
always ends up pretty broken
but fun
seems like there are a lot of stars this gen, although cyclizar and slowking are both v common and v fucked
er, cyc and slowking as donors
great tusk seems to be the most common actual mon in play
and for good reason, that thing's a beast
languid lichen
worldly plume
She couldnt top Elesa in terms of electric gym gal aura maybe
And larry has that tired salaryman rizz
languid lichen
larry my beloved
soft isleBOT
Don’t people still really like her?
languid lichen
probably
pliant violet
yes unfortunately we love Larry
runic umbra
Larry's the GOAT
languid lichen
runic umbra
Don’t people still really like her?
I may be boring but generally speaking I like my gym leader/story NPC designs in Pokémon a little more subdued.
there's exceptions but generally the more the stuff they wear looks like costume than clothing the less I like the design
trail bridge
found this in manila on wplace
pliant violet
I may be boring but generally speaking I like my gym leader/story NPC designs in...
I really like the shift from like gen 5 onwards to giving them jobs outside being gym leaders
runic umbra
that was a good call, yeah
pliant violet
like the earlier leaders weren't bad but adding a second note to them was the sauce
runic umbra
the first two generations were quite grounded and occasionally a bit bland as far as I remember. the occasional ninja or magician or Bruno, but overall just normal people.
Where I don't mind the extravagance is with the evil teams.
Team Skulls drip is still peak if you ask me.
pliant violet
team skull is the best evil team
guzma is the best evil team leader
and the success of the SM plot twist lead to them trying to repeat in the next generation and doing it badly
runic umbra
Everybody loves Guzma, and rightfully so
pliant violet
he's ya boy
pliant violet
team yell yeah
and the bait and switch with macro cosmos
or whatever they're called
which is meant to be like how the aether foundation are the actual bad guys
runic umbra
I haven't played gen9. what was the team there?
azure crane
It also suffered from it being part of their first venture into open world gameplay, so they had to make three independent story lines that didn't interact.
runic umbra
Teams overall feel kinda hit or miss.
Team Rocket becomes kinda iconic
Team Magma/Aqua had some fun themeing (also PIRATES!)
Team Spacemen was ...alright I guess? I like their spiky buildings.
but I forgot their names
pliant violet
galactic
runic umbra
iirc their leader was kind of a musk type
pliant violet
plasma has vague space themeing
pliant violet
iirc their leader was kind of a musk type
no no
giovanni wanted to destroy the world
no giovanni
azure crane
You mean Cyrus.
azure crane
Giovanni wanted to just be a crime boss.
runic umbra
giovanni wants MONAY
pliant violet
sorry just got out of movie so brain slow
azure crane
Team Flare had Lysandre, the anime John Galt who weirdly no one but you could recognize as a villain.
runic umbra
Plasma had a knight theme, which I kinda hated
runic umbra
Team Flare had Lysandre, the anime John Galt who weirdly no one but you could re...
I would write a joke monologue about this but that one ProZD bit kinda sums him up
"this world is imperfectttt"
pliant violet
Plasma had a knight theme, which I kinda hated
along with N claimed as king, the vibes were so weird
runic umbra
Team Plasma has the issue that they bring upa salient point (are pokémon battles ethical) but then do fuckall with it.
they start to shift gears halfway to "reinstate the monarchy"
or something
I forgor
azure crane
trail bridge
Team Plasma has the issue that they bring upa salient point (are pokémon battles...
I mean, it was all a ploy to make Ghetsis the only person in Unova with Pokemon
and honestly, out of all of the rival team leaders
Ghetsis is one of the most memorable for me
simply because he tries to fucking kill you in B&W 2
runic umbra
also I'm sorry but this is bad
azure crane
Why do their shirts have womb tattoos? I never noticed that before.
trail bridge
I think those are belt buckles?
runic umbra
yeah, I never noticed the panty belt buckles
azure crane
But yeah, anime fascists having bad aesthetics is ironically good.
runic umbra
yes and no
azure crane
Also, I love that it's canon that one of the bosses of Team Star composed their own theme.
And it literally plays from the speakers of their Starmobiles.
runic umbra
I mean why join the anime fascists at all if not for their fashion? their ideology? nah, this won't do
you gotta back up your hateful worldview with some DRIP
pliant violet
Also, I love that it's canon that one of the bosses of Team Star composed their ...
one of them designed their outfits too
azure crane
Now I'm thinking about (I believe) John Waters getting upset that the hacktivists that were fighting corporate fascism didn't have an aesthetic.
Now they do. They're catgirls in maid outfits and stockings. :D
runic umbra
he was onto something
so looking for team flare I'm left a little confused.
for example I don't remember these dorks at all
I thought at first they were fan creations but they keep popping up
runic umbra
Ghetsis is one of the most memorable for me
maybe it's because I'm old, but I think Giovanni and Team Rocket remains the most memorable for me. Partially because they get two games to develop. And him being the eighth gym leader in the first game was just really good planting and payoff
azure crane
Speaking of which, I think Blue in Gen 2 is still the ground type leader, and he has a fitting team for normal gym challenges.
But he heard the Johto champion was coming, and was like, "Right. Shut down the puzzles, tell the trainees to buzz off, I'm gonna give them the best fight ever."
runic umbra
the postgame in 2 is so peak
torpid pivot
Wait, the Kanto stuff? That's all in originals
azure crane
I remember playing the postgame in Gold on the GBC.
torpid pivot
Truly a sequel of all time
deft path
Wait, the Kanto stuff? That's all in originals
my bad I assumed that like everything else good in gen ii it was added in the remakes
sorry im a hater
The scaling and new Pokemon being so rare just made me so pissed at them
i just can't stand how much of gen ii just feels like more gen i
pliant violet
Gen 2 sucks
torpid pivot
i was busy bein like 10 so mayhaps my taste wasn't quite as developed :p
oh younger even, damb, why'd it feel like a 2000 >:|a
manic kindle
From a game balance standpoint as "adding new things", gen 2 suffers a hearty amount
Large amount of gen2 pokemon are in Kanto, a lot of the johto gyms barely use Johto pokemon, poor level curve (even in gen4), a drawling Rocket plotline, etc
It is the generation i enjoy the most with '''fixed''' romhacks, especially purity ones that just address level curve and pokedex availability
like wow actually getting to use houndour is kinda cool 😭
pliant violet
no no houndoom and skarmory are from gen 3, you see
torpid pivot
saying it didn't add that much from gen 1 is kind of wild but yeah some good points
deft path
saying it didn't add that much from *gen 1* is kind of wild but yeah some good p...
it certainly changed quite a lot for the better that im happy about but a lot of the stuff was also just really niche and difficult to find, especially the new pokemmon being so damn rare, dark and steel barely being present in the games despite originating in them, so while a lot of the quality of life and rebalancing was awesome, a lot of the major content was also just super hard to actually experience
like this is the eighth gym leader
torpid pivot
Tbf that's also on the first game just not Having Dragons
they shared that issue
make a ghost team gen 1
deft path
they could spring for a dragonite
deft path
yeah the ghost leader in this game is just two gastlies and two haunters
even the elite four team has repeat members
torpid pivot
Again this was made in 1998
deft path
sure, i dont think that excuses the penultimate gym leader of the entire game having literally Three Pokemon
gold and silver added a lot of very important and critical mechanics, quality of life changes, and new features
it also added a lot of really fun and iconic stuff like shinies, friendship, roaming legendaries, and alternate pokeballs
but i think that undeniably, gameplay wise, they are not actually very good in their original forms
a lot of it is just Gen I+
arctic dagger
IDK, I think gen2 was cool. It doesn't stand up to like, new stuff, but it was fun at the time, and the idea of generations being what they are now just wasn't an expectation back then.
No one had a new pokemon game before.
Was it more gen1? Yeah. But when no one expected any different that was fine.
Is the new stuff cooler? Also yeah.
deft path
yeah i do get to operate with the hindsight of having been around long after it came out, but idk i do still think a lot of it just has
weird design choices
especially in kanto
i dont thinnk the time it came out changes that a lot of the teams are fairly underbaked and the level scaling is atrocious, those were problems in gen i too and not really something they started to fix until gen iii
but i see no reason to ever play the original gen ii when we have hgss
arctic dagger
Yeah, that's true.
I think that's true for the gen1 remakes and the gen3 remakes too
deft path
hgss is just gen 2 but like, if it was better
i would also tremendously agree with one caveat that original emerald has a bunch of stuff that isnt in the remakes and is also the perfect base for romhacks to build off of
worldly plume
I played pokemon crystal on an emulator on a USB back in colleg
Pressing spacebar to go nwoom.was funny
deft path
god i would never play gen i originals again
torpid pivot
Yall just imagine being 7
deft path
easy, i had pokemon black and white
torpid pivot
It makes them different, this was the second coming of Jesus
worldly plume
Black white fun
deft path
you cant be caping for gen ii and then call gen V eh
torpid pivot
I'm caping for it in 1998
worldly plume
Emerald was childhood
Also i thought rayquaza wasnt a snake but was a lizard with a funny tube around its neck in the poster art
torpid pivot
Ruby and Sapphire are quite good and very much hold up
But I'm also biased for the aesthetic and secret base inclusion
deft path
yeah ruby and sapphire i think are the first genuinely replayable generation in this day and age
gen i and ii are cool historically and worth experiencing but i wouldnt want to play the originals anymore now that we have the revamps that cut out a lot of the bullshit and just make everything better
og ruby and sapphire are still chill
too much water
torpid pivot
Not being on Gameboy color helps
deft path
but thats a way better flaw then "might ruin your cartridge"
why did the pokemon company not simply wait for the GBA and then make gen iii instead of making gen i on gameboy
are they stupid/
torpid pivot
Think May jokin
sudden spade
too much water
'Thanks meoth, your hate speech got our Spotify contract cancelled'
deft path
This is a really weird take.
this is a dumb joke in the format of batman arkham aslune
especially the suggestion to just skip gen i and make gen iii instead
arctic dagger
I lack the context to understand this I think XD
manic kindle
Even getting Silver and Crystal new during release months, i felt the level curve issue 😭
azure crane
I remember beating Clair's Kingdra with a Wobbuffet using Destiny Bond.
languid lichen
god i fucking love doing this
unfortunately lando does not have enough spatk for blizzard to catch very much
but every fucking time someone wows it
or switches in great tusk
and thinks they're safe
the fucking hidden power ice special
runic umbra
too much water
I thought the cool hip take these days about RS was "too much brass"
manic kindle
runic umbra
also I'm surprised that Gen2 is this despised. Granted I don't engage with the mechanics on a deeper level and I haven't played the GS remake in roughly ten years, But I have mostly fond memories of it. The whole scale of the thing was impressive, the soundtrack is arguably some of the best in the franchise and I just really liked the progression of time between the first two games.
pliant violet
I do not like kanto and johto is just kanto 2
runic umbra
also I just like the creature designs
runic umbra
I do not like kanto and johto is just kanto 2
clutching my pearls right now
pliant violet
also I just like the creature designs
this would be valid if any of the new johto designs were at all available
sudden spade
I find silver's character growth is a bit weak. Like obviously, limitations of the system, but attempting to make silver grow into less of a shithead took more than the game put into it.
So it feels like 'More asshole blue you're supposed to not hate by the end of it'
runic umbra
I also quite like the Team Rocket storyline, limited as it is. It's clearly on its last legs without its leader and desperately grasping for a foothold.
pliant violet
yeah I don't like asshole rivals so there's that
runic umbra
as an aspiring asshole rival this hits me where I live
it's a valuable and underappreciated social service
pliant violet
and I disagree
torpid pivot
see i find a lot of the later rivals a bit toothless
Gen 7 had a great mix of personalities though
runic umbra
I don't mind the friendlier rivalries but gimme someone with at least a little spice
runic umbra
Gen 7 had a great mix of personalities though
I feel Gen7s rivals improved on what Gen5s rivals tried. Gen5 got a little messy in that regard.
sudden spade
It kinda annoys me when they have friendlier rivals but still give you 'you lose, try again' if they beat you in a mid-game duel.
If they're a friend, having some wins and losses between the pair of you should be fine
torpid pivot
Also what like level scaling issues are specific to gold? I find there's kind of always an odd swing
runic umbra
I don't even remember Gen6s rival
torpid pivot
but other than the classic Whitney's Miltank I never hear that
Gen 6 just sort of had a Friends Squad
they were a'right
runic umbra
ah yeah, the short girl with the loopdeloop hair and the
okay I'm fully blanking on the other ones
pliant violet
gen 6 is among the worst
7 and 8 are good imo
gen 9 rivals aren't so much rivals but they're all really good
pliant violet
3 is may/brendan and 4 is wally and dawn/lucas right?
runic umbra
I mean in general
Gen4s rival was okay
Gen3s was a nonentity
they were there sometimes
at least Gen3 has best prof
pliant violet
nah that goes to either gen 6 or gen 9 imo
soft isleBOT
Wally was gen 3
ReggiesWarOnEverything (He) ↩️
torpid pivot
I think a mean rival is alright, the children should understand Sometimes There's This Jerk
But do remember rooting for Wally too, all of it can be done well just has to be.. that
Lot of the time they just sort of exist
soft isleBOT
Gen 9’s Professor is our favorite by quite a lot
runic umbra
nah that goes to either gen 6 or gen 9 imo
Can't speak for Gen9 but Sycamore? he's terrible.
pliant violet
Wally was gen 3
I'm thinking of gary
I'm a hop hau rival stan
I think hop and hau are both excellent young men
torpid pivot
i liked the Kukui but i'm biased also the anime was cute as hell
runic umbra
Hop is precious
pliant violet
who I want to succeed
runic umbra
Kukui's peak
torpid pivot
I couldn't get as attached to Hop as I should because he was stuck in The Worst Story Game
that whole game i was just annoyed
soft isleBOT
Our favorite gens overall are 2 and 3, maybe slight edge to 2
That’s about what our experience was
AIM away message (she/they) ↩️
pliant violet
I liked the story! I wish they'd gone in even harder on it as the sports region
abandon the villain team
abandon the world ending threat
runic umbra
I barely remember the villain team
pliant violet
yell
runic umbra
ah
pliant violet
then the cosmos guys
in an aether foundation style bait and switch but even more obvious
runic umbra
I remember team yell but I forgot about thr cosmos guys
torpid pivot
I liked the story! I wish they'd gone in even harder on it as the sports region
this is the truest thing in the world about SW/SH
runic umbra
I just remember the wacky manchild CEO man doing a heel turn
and his hot assistant being like "fuck this I'm out" by the end
manic kindle
Also what like *level scaling* issues are specific to gold? I find there's kind ...
Its at its absolute worst in gen 2
Approaching gym 8 you still only have access to wild pokemon in the 15s/20s!!
torpid pivot
maybe my perspective was skewed because I always play weird
manic kindle
Trainers stop scaling entirely
torpid pivot
but they call you on the pokegear! With tougher guys!
manic kindle
Victory road has dudes with low 30s
pliant violet
Approaching gym 8 you still only have access to wild pokemon in the 15s/20s!!
because the idea is that johto is only half the game
but it doesn't sign post this at all
runic umbra
Gen2 also has the most proactive mom.
for better or worse.
manic kindle
but they call you on the pokegear! With tougher guys!
You have 0 control over this for grinding purposes
soft isleBOT
Thank goodness for romhacks making gen 2 into the games our nostalgia remembers
manic kindle
because the idea is that johto is only half the game
Even for the first half, the experience yields suck
Bless Crystal Legacy
soft isleBOT
Also Polished Crystal is a banger of a hack
murdoc (he/him) ↩️
manic kindle
Gen 1/2 have admirable points and services but playing them raw is rough as hell now without nostalgia goggles
torpid pivot
i played Pokemon Yellow with the ardent rule that I would only level pikachu
so maybe i didn't know what normal felt like
also again yes
these games released around the same time as Smash Mouth
they're going to need nostalgia
most games were
kind of bad
in many ways
manic kindle
They dont!
runic umbra
i played Pokemon Yellow with the ardent rule that I would only level pikachu
I did that with my starter in red. because I was a wee lad.
manic kindle
Plenty of games can hold up just fine
But mathematically gen2's level and exp curve suck ass, its well documented
manic kindle
Whatever
runic umbra
I like Gen2 for its ambition but wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't hold up all that well.
also I only played the remake
deft path
3 is may/brendan and 4 is wally and dawn/lucas right?
gen 3 may
pliant violet
it's gonna be may
torpid pivot
I'm not trying to be overly defensive or aggro, just can't agree with the vitriol Gold was met with back when this convo started forever ago
deft path
But mathematically gen2's level and exp curve suck ass, its well documented
There's also a jump of 20 levels between gym 7 kanto and gym 8 kanto
not to mention red
its just kinda all over the place
obtuse ravine
it's gonna be may
not for a while
deft path
it's always may
deft path
I'm right here
obtuse ravine
it is may
deft path
I know I cannot get rid of you
I think you would also just miss our sparring and the possibility of a duel one day
deft path
I'm right here
runic umbra
well, I'm not
crude moon
mellow robin
what metagame is that
languid lichen
frantic fusions maybe?
i don't think FF adds levels in any way, though, so i'm a bit thrown
timber vale
frantic fusions maybe?
I don't think frantic fusions has any visual changes?
crude moon
what metagame *is* that
the wingwambit metagame
arctic dagger
I hope that the limited #s of switches mechanic eventually makes it into the main games if they keep making games with singles
pliant violet
I'm interested to see what their battling client ends up looking like
arctic dagger
A lot of the issues with singles go away IMO if switches are an actual resource
umbral hound
I think part of the issue is that a lot of people like the switch-heavy metagame as it stands, and think that understanding switching properly is a major source of strategy as-is.
arctic dagger
It is
But it makes it a shit sport.
I'm not saying smogon will ever do it
I'm saying I want Pokemon to do it
😛
pliant violet
professional sports limit substitutions
arctic dagger
Also it being a resource but still allowed increases the strategy involved IMO
It's no longer just correct to swap away from every bad matchup so much of the time
pliant violet
unfortunately I've seen the light of doubles
pliant violet
we did
snow cobalt
red rampart
\We want to @glacial ore but we’re not sure why
snow cobalt
round perch
snow cobalt
obtuse ravine
awww
languid lichen
languid lichen
meanwhile, extremely normal happenings
snorlax going first is always concerning to see
timber vale
What the fuck kinda metagame
languid lichen
oh, this is inheritance
timber vale
Ahhhhh okay that makes things make a lot more sense
languid lichen
yeah
gzap on decidueye
dunno what it was doing
it wasn't choiced
and didn't ever bulk up
pliant violet
people complain about dire claw but imo triple arrows is even meaner, just on a worse pokemon
pliant violet
not gonna argue that one
timber vale
Triple arrows is a really good move on like. The worst mon ever
sudden spade
I don't think there's ever been a starter worse than 'meh'
pliant violet
meganium
but even then
starters generally have enough stats for it to be hard for them to be worse than me
sudden spade
starters generally have enough stats for it to be hard for them to be worse than...
I dunno, we might need to test you in a fight against some of them 😛
What moves do you know?
timber vale
by virtue of being a starter it's genuinely not horrific
Yeah I'm exaggerating, it's not like it's completely awful
It just can't manage in OU, which... very few pokemon can, anyways
pliant violet
I meant, meh iki, please do not make me fight the animals
sudden spade
Sorry Reggie, you're getting in the ring with Incineroar now.
pliant violet
there are three fighting dark types that I think of off the top of my head and I like two of them
runic umbra
idunno scrafty kinda grows on you
umbral hound
What all do you get from Inheritance? And do you have to use all of it?
runic umbra
it looks like such a lil shit
umbral hound
because in fusion metagame I once considered if there was any way to get Triple Arrows onto a serene grace mon, and ideally a fast one. And, horribly, the only Fighting-type with Serene Grace (and also the Serene Grace mon with the highest attack) is Meloetta-Pirouette.
and, oddly, also the fastest, 1 point above Shaymin-Sky.
Wait, hang on. If you inherit Scrappy onto Meloetta, will it change into Serene Grace when Meloetta changes forms? It'd actually be desirable if that was the case, which is a horrible thing to say.
umbral hound
Shaymin-sky has serene grace.
umbral hound
You're right; the phrasing was odd.
languid lichen
in any case, god i wish meloetta's transformation was out of battle
pirouetta would be so much stronger
umbral hound
I meant more along the lines of "the only Serene Grace mon who's Fighting-type" I guess.
Honestly, if Meloetta sucked like 5% less, spending a turn on Relic Song would almost be worth it to be able to spam very fast moves with a 60% flinch chance that always lower the target's defense.
(in Inheritance, I mean.)
But being totally reliant on a setup move, and having that setup move be able to fail, is Not Good.
pliant violet
idunno scrafty kinda grows on you
scrafty is one of the ones I liked
languid lichen
i'm a big sandile enjoyer
all of the gen 5 desert mons were pretty neat ngl
maractus is cute
umbral hound
Ghosts and protect and also presumably soundproof
pliant violet
the fighting dark type I do not like is pangoro
scrafty and scraggy are up there for my fave gen 5 mons
they're the right mix of silly but also a little threatening and also the idea of a punk/hooligan/thug lizard wearing it's shed skin like baggy clothes is brilliant
also, moxie
sudden spade
...huh, never realized there wasn't a Poison/Ice type. It wouldn't be a good pokemon without some serious stats or tricks but there's very few combos we've got that don't yet have at least one pokemon.
languid lichen
mostly missing normal combos
pliant violet
(never had one with intimidate since hidden ability)
trail bridge
poison ice could be like. A virus incased in ice
which would be sickkkk
because it makes you sick
pliant violet
a sick thermometer
trail bridge
that too 🤔
sudden spade
I look forward to when they make a Ground/Fairy type and we just see game balance snap under the weight of how good that type combo is. XD
pliant violet
poison ice really does have sickness vibes
not like toxic waste or the other kinds of poison subthemes
pliant violet
I look forward to when they make a Ground/Fairy type and we just see game balanc...
fairy armadillo
sudden spade
Yeah, I could see Poison/Ice as Virus/Illness themed.
trail bridge
yeaaa
hmm.. tardigrade grass/flying mon. A moss pig that fulfills the saying "when pigs fly" because it swims in the air
umbral hound
terrible idea: a mercury thermometer with poison/fire and poison/ice forms.
trail bridge
terrible idea: a mercury thermometer with poison/fire and poison/ice forms.
ooohohohoho
Like Meltan but evil
pliant violet
terrible idea: a mercury thermometer with poison/fire and poison/ice forms.
where's the terrible part
umbral hound
I also remember someone made an ice-poison type which was based on those frogs that freeze solid in the winter.
sudden spade
Poison/Ice would have to be fast and offensive with how bad that combo is defensively (Ground, Psychic and Fire weak? Oof, that's 3 good attacking types)
umbral hound
(when frozen solid, it also looked like those little woodblock frog instruments.)
pliant violet
where's the terrible part
could even do it like that stupid hamster
umbral hound
Lemme see if I can find it.
pliant violet
could even do it like that stupid hamster
morpeko
umbral hound
languid lichen
Poison/Ice would have to be fast and offensive with how *bad* that combo is defe...
alternatively
it's a very slow, very defensive mon
because gamefreak loves to do that lmfao
trail bridge
Jack, from fairytales, and all the things related to him
languid lichen
extremely slow and bulky ice types
umbral hound
oh that didn't embed 1 sec
trail bridge
so like a candlestick, a beanstalk, a giant...
umbral hound
trail bridge
OHHHH subjectively
he also made this REALLY good red tide mon
which I really like
sudden spade
because gamefreak loves to do that lmfao
Stop making defensive ice types challenge: Impossible.
languid lichen
no, more avaluggs
it's so fucked up that they could've given avalugg a different type combination
and they just went
"lol, lmao, ice/rock"
😭
trail bridge
😔
umbral hound
I swear, GameFreak thinks Rock is a defensive type because it resists Normal.
trail bridge
he also made this REALLY good red tide mon
https://www.deviantart.com/subjectively5/art/Phytide-Pokedex-965324906
https://www.deviantart.com/subjectively5/art/Venorayge-Pokedex-965325009
sudden spade
They kinda missed that normal isn't really an attacking type any more. It's not gen1/2 XD
trail bridge
I think there should be freakier marine mons
languid lichen
runic umbra
I think there should be freakier marine mons
you evolve them by feeding them crayons
sudden spade
...man, now I have that poison/ice type on the brain. I'm thinking 'fast, special attacks over physical with a little support or debuffing. Themed on Viruses and Medicine'.
I could see keeping the actual special attack good but not super high by giving it Merciless as one of the ability options so it really wants to bully people that are already poisoned.
So it can turn up and do Fast Toxic Spikes or it can rely on someone else setting up Toxic Spikes and sweeping through poisoned pokemon with mean Sludge Bombs.
pliant violet
the battle royale pvp mode isn't expected to be particularly core to the game
soft isleBOT
we thought it looked kind of cool 
arctic dagger
I'm glad it's for someone else then. XD. I get pretty overwhelmed and annoyed by stuff like this usually
soft isleBOT
We're watching the VGC world championship vods and it is so weird to watch gen 9 played at 60 fps
azure crane
I finally completed my Kitakami Pokédex.
And Arboliva is carrying me through the Ting-Lu raids.
runic umbra
I've grown kinda fond of this little guy and its evolution.
Despite never really having used them much. iirc their placement in Gen1 was kind of awkward.
anyway Tangelas and tangrowths design rule.
manic kindle
yeah they're south of Pallet Town in a small area, requiring you to have Surf to get em
arctic dagger
Yeah they're really cool.
Writhing balls of tentacles are just peak design in general IMO
And they manage to make tangela cute
torpid pivot
Kirby Shape Language cannot fail
But also just the mystery of him being pure vines with a face inside
runic umbra
also permanent blank eyed "oh no" expression.
languid lichen
bro is goin through it
azure crane
Who the fuck brings special attacking Gyarados, well, anywhere?
arctic dagger
I... I think I remember some special investment sometimes being ok in gen3?
azure crane
Tera Raid against Ting-Lu.
manic kindle
thats pretty funny
signal glen
trail bridge
aww its removed 😔
trail bridge
oh I think it just accidentally released early
languid lichen
ah rip
honest cairn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8onE8hsKk
about to go live
my money is on victreebel or vileplume, roserade maybe
honest cairn
i liiked the fakeouts, i think the design is silly cute
runic umbra
my money is on victreebel or vileplume, roserade maybe
we need more victreebel
pliant violet
they had spoilers for this in legends arceus
honest cairn
i wonder what the ability will be when not in ZA
signal glen
Corrosive if I had to guess.
trail bridge
hm! I kinda don't like Mega Victreebel
honest cairn
im sorry i kinda love the boing boing sack
soft isleBOT
we absolutely love it and will find an excuse to use it in our party
deft path
its a giant version of this, right
but the joke for its mega evolution is that its no longer eating insects, its eating whole animmals
its literally just. mega victribeel
mellow robin
it's like a trash bag after you tied the end up
I'm kinda into it, but I wish we had some more non-gen-1 megas too
torpid pivot
I feel like they might be toning down the whole Mega Evolution Makes Them Insane deal
Dragonite looked blissful
And this is bag
languid lichen
that was literally only a thing for sun and moon
not even ultra sun and ultra moon
torpid pivot
Tru
But guess just not sure what makes this an uh
Improvement
There's More Poison in there I guess
runic umbra
https://youtu.be/yoOg5JYyFmA?si=GfxaqATdTEh2Em1K
it sure left a lasting impression in the anime
umbral hound
Watch as it turns out Mega Victreebel secretly has two forms, like Cramorant.
(it probably doesn't)
near flower
he's so goofy
me after a night at the hot pot place
umbral hound
Do we have any idea what the time difference is between Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet?
mellow robin
not really
afaik S/V only has a clear relationship with Unova, via the DLC
umbral hound
The library in the school includes the book published by Sonia at the end of SwSh.
arctic dagger
Yeah that's for sure a friend
languid lichen
sudden spade
I really like that Mega. It's great, in its own silly way.
worldly plume
why does the fella look like its holding itself in
sudden spade
why does the fella look like its holding itself in
Too full of acid.
worldly plume
fear
sudden spade
It's attack animation has it releasing the vines and just flooding the area with acid
We don't yet know what the ability it has is but it looks like from the teasers they've provided it's a Powered Up Corrosion.
As a big part of its description is that its acid cuts througth steel easily.
I do like that idea for a mega's ability. It's very powerful but also a little situational.
languid lichen
also makes its stab combo way closer to unresisted
just walled by enemy poisons and some ghost combos
sudden spade
Magearna/Zacian: "I'm in danger!"
It reads like the ability is a combo of Poison Puppeteer and Corrosion.
Which is...well, that's not exactly a bad combo. XD
azure crane
azure crane
sullen mesa
meatwad is mega glalie
fickle thicket
amazing episode of horizons lmao
spoilers, obviously
||5v2
actually 5v6
ult had a dragonite all along
mega dragonite to hype the kids up for legends za||
azure crane
I beat the Indigo Disc and completed the Paldea Pokédex.
azure crane
timber vale
I remember someone asked about the Wingwambit image a while ago
From what I can tell, it's from something that might be separate from Frantic Fusions? But still a fusion OM? Or it might just be something newer to frantic fusions compared to the last time I played it
azure crane
Tumblr
pliant violet
no goofy is only a final boss in inverse kingdom hearts
languid lichen
pliant violet
video jame
