Something to finally replace Ash-Greninja and the other two never got super forms
#POKÉMON CENTER
arctic dagger
spring hedge
anyone got predictions for new megas?
fickle thicket
I like the idea but it just didn't sit well in XY
pliant violet
anyone got predictions for new megas?
kalos starters
fickle thicket
I'm gonna predict a few mega-having pokémon being fully absent
languid lichen
anyone got predictions for new megas?
none
pliant violet
that sounds reasonable money
languid lichen
i have a feeling that it's going to leave no one satisfied
fickle thicket
the likes of pidgeot or beedrill
languid lichen
that would be neat
manic kindle
im also interested in what Champions is trying to do
arctic dagger
Hey does anyone have a team theme to suggest that isn't... Weather based, type based, gen-based, or one of Moth/Turtle/Bird/Frog/Rodent/Dog/Cat/Fox/Horse/Lizard/Snake/Bat/Slug+Snail/Ancient/Robot/Dreams?
manic kindle
Interesting question! Whats this for?
The low hanging fruit is Stat Based / Condition Based; i think going beyond that you could do Transportation Theme, or Biome Themed
arctic dagger
Just doing brain exercises for pokemon
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15AZW1QGyUeH3MqsupQk63VG2ZiXqW7LP50_cfbDCcng/edit?gid=0#gid=0
My doc I'm doing them on
manic kindle
This can also be a bit abstract but Trainer Class type teams; some gens have pretty coded trainer types on what pokemon they might be using
arctic dagger
Good idea!
spring hedge
- pokémon what are evil wizards
- assorted objects
- weirdly humanlike
- cycloptic mons
manic kindle
adef's recent videos had me thinking in terms of game design on "victory road trainer teams should be able to clear the 8 badges" which could be a fun thought experiment to reverse-engineer teams per badge
languid lichen
spoink is your crystal ball (must ponder), misdreavus/mismagius and beheeyem/meowstic are your wizard assistants, impidimp line for goblin minions, and if you need more than four for a team you go with murkrow or something as a familiar
manic kindle
a spoink named ponder...
languid lichen
hmmm
manic kindle
adef's recent videos had me thinking in terms of game design on "victory road tr...
mostly keeping this in mind for my own fangame nonsense
languid lichen
purrloin/leipard, murkrow/honchkrow, rattata/raticate, froakie/greninja, bulbasaur/venusaur, or croagunk/toxicroak?
as a familiar
arctic dagger
Honchkrow
manic kindle
i cast find familiar and get prankster'd into oblivion
languid lichen
fair
hmm
i think unevolved is best for familiars
they're supposed to be small and weak, so they'll always be stage 1
arctic dagger
Honchkrow I can see as a familiar still
languid lichen
fair
arctic dagger
Greninja not at all
languid lichen
i think i'd pick a purrloin, but murkrow makes a lot of sense
arctic dagger
Is the way I picked Honkchkrow basically
languid lichen
since honchkrow is the most applicable evo
arctic dagger
I think I'd go with Glameow
Or Luxray
Meowstic maybe
Over Purrloin/Liepard
Oh, Espeon
Espeon 100%
Best cat familiar
manic kindle
my hot take for a good wizard pokemon is Klefki
keeps all your doodads and random shit like a materials pouch
languid lichen
so you've got your orb (spoink), your familiar (murkrow/purrloin/glameow), thugs (one of grimmsnarl, raticate, obstagoon, pangoro, sneasel lines), and apprentices/a cabal (one or two of mismagius, meowstic, hatterene)
maybe some litwicks or gourgeists for atmospheric lighting
oh klefki's a good shout actually
even has magician
arctic dagger
my hot take for a good wizard pokemon is Klefki
Flutter Mane
Delphox
Alakazam
Slowking(Galar)
Gardevoir
Gothitelle
Was my list
But I was thinking "Pokemon who are wizards"
Not "pokemon for a wizard"
spring hedge
yeah the pokémon being the wizards was the prompt
cerulean ice
Hey does anyone have a team theme to suggest that isn't... Weather based, type ...
Kaiju-based
Tyranitar, Volcarona, Garbador, Duraldon, Hydreigon, Baxcalibur
signal glen
soft isleBOT
That cane is awesome
sullen mesa
is ZA meant for the switch 2
signal glen
It'll be playable on the Switch 2 regardless.
sullen mesa
why...why can't we just control the pokemon ourselves in battles 
manic kindle
Perhaps im confused but you do get to control them
signal glen
it looked like you're still running around as the trainer in battle but it seems your Pokemon will also kind of follow you.
manic kindle
Oh you want to just be the pokemon i see
That would be quite the change
I was worried they missed that youre still picking the moves and pacing of your actions
sullen mesa
i'm too mysterydungeonpilled
manic kindle
Would love another one of those for sure
arctic dagger
Yeah I'd prefer waht ysybusybear said kinda
The fact we control their movement KINDA is just something that feels weird
manic kindle
I think its in line with you playing as the trainer
arctic dagger
shrug You're clearly dodging moves and stuff IMO, which feels like... The pokemon should be able to do without me moving around?
Like in almost all depictions of pokemon battles, the trainers stay AWAY from the explosions
Here you're incentivized it looks like to like, run up and be next to them but not actually help at all just to do weird positioning things
It's offputting
To me
snow cobalt
i think Pokemon Colosseum/XD had players getting attacked
manic kindle
It feels similar to Arceus to me, just the next step in style for the modern world
I dig it
arctic dagger
I liked arceus better, I'd rather they went farther or less far than what they showed
But it just looks like a weird middle ground to me
manic kindle
We'll just to to see how it works out on release
arctic dagger
Yah
sullen mesa
also, this was part of the direct (i wasn't there live) ||https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vmCUJE-Hrcw||
pretty hype
arctic dagger
Ah yeah, we talked about how it's Official Pokemon Showdown
Hoping they let Showdown keep existing
sullen mesa
i think so? showdown devs talked to nintendo before and they only thing they weren't allowed to do is make a mobile version
so this is probably what came out of that
sullen mesa
you're right and it can happen still
snow cobalt
think Pokemon Stadium or Pokemon Battle Revolution for this
sullen mesa
yeah i think it's a modern extension of BR
you might only use a limited # of pokemon, otherwise you have to use your Home roster
manic kindle
think Pokemon Stadium or Pokemon Battle Revolution for this
God i hope it has an announcer
The stadium announcer ruled
foggy mango
“Sparks are flying in this heated match!”
foggy mango
I’d honestly be impressed, since I know a good portion of those lines would just be some variation of “Oh it’s insert 1 of 1025 Pokémon!”
It would rock, of course, if they did this
sullen mesa
one fear: paid BGM
manic kindle
I think you could do it w/out mentioning a pokemons name, with clever barks and quips
signal glen
"Ride that Surf" has just been living rent free in my head for decades.
snow cobalt
Hatsune Miku will now serve as the announcer
foggy mango
I think you could do it w/out mentioning a pokemons name, with clever barks and ...
I need the announcer to say “It’s Centiskorch” though
Jokes aside, I could see that being the solution
languid lichen
TAKEN DOWN ON THE WORD GO always sticks with me
GOOOOODDDD, IT'S A ONE-HIT WONDER always got me
manic kindle
he really brought his A-game for that VO work
fickle thicket
https://bsky.app/profile/uhmcheesedtomeetyou.com/post/3lj64gpluk22p
no wonder he has a cane
man went to the chair store and said "i need my back so fucked up chiropractors become scared of me"
lunar hinge
Bro's like over 9 feet tall, no chair exists that can seat him comfortably.
fickle thicket
bro is 3k+ years old, he's gotta have custom chair money
lunar hinge
I might replace Malamar with Aigislash. It's pretty cool and got a good typing. Four weaknesses yeah, but 3 immunities, only two normals and everything else it resists. Only issue is it's on route 6. At level 12. Most of my stuff is in it's late 30s and early 40s.
Durindana, Joyeuse, or Curtana?
lunar hinge
Joyesue it is.
round perch
I hope ZA has life sim elements.
wispy yarrow
I love that it's almost an action game
lunar hinge
I am realising, I could just afk the daycare to level my Honedge couldn't I?
wispy yarrow
I would personally not like lifesim elements but I wouldn't be surprised if it got them
Those are pretty popular
signal glen
Oh so something I kind of noticed with the ZA trailer is that it looked like reducing a wild Pokemon to 0 HP doesn't like delete them like normal. They kind of just hang around stunned.
lunar hinge
It really seems like the legends games are geared more towards being like the anime, with you able to run around during the battles, and even the moves being on cooldowns in ZA rather then turn based.
wispy yarrow
Something I always wanted the games to do
Was pick up the manga's concept of trainer powers
Like, Green is "This trainer is great at pushing them to their limit" and Red is "This trainer is good at synergizing with their Pokemon"
Etc
Yellow does get straight up Lay on Hands for Pokemon which is kinda funny but the idea is there
lunar hinge
I mean like kind of did with Z moves. Since the conceit was it like you're giving some of your power to the Pokémon to boost an attack even further.
wispy yarrow
Right, but I like the idea of being able to choose a specialty, since so many people play Pokemon a different way, y'know?
Like, let me roleplay as a Pokemon breeder whose eggs hatch faster than normal, or a power-trainer that gets a slight bump to certain stats on evolution
lunar hinge
Fair. Make pokemon even more of an RPG with specialization and classes almost yeah?
wispy yarrow
That would be kinda cool yeah
lunar hinge
It would have to be limited to a Legends game though because that would be a nightmare to balance for Mainline competitively.
wispy yarrow
Eh, I don't think it would be that hard
Like there would probably be a battler type that would surely be the meta pick if you want to play competitive
And it would probably just be a matter of fiddling with numbers
Collector - Catch rate increase, chance to recover failed Pokeballs
Healer - Pokemon passively heal over time while traveling
Fighter - Small stat boost on evolution + Pokemon not giving up/hanging in there chace increase
Breeder - Eggs hatch 5% faster, higher chance of good base stats
Specialist - Small damage % increase with specific Type
Calmer/Empathizer: Reduced chance for Confusion, Attract, and other similar afflictions to impede, quicker recovery from statuses
Etc
Not that I think these would be the exact things, mind
But stuff like them
lunar hinge
I could easily see one that like, reduces the amount of XP you get but like you get slightly better stats when your Pokemon levels up and another one that's the opposite.
wispy yarrow
Yeah, stuff like that
Because like, what a solo player catching them all wants, isn't always what a competitive player wants
And people can easily have multiple profiles/saves if they want to do like, a Nuzlocke run or a solo challenge
So these could help them do that
The existing Trainer powers/specialties from the Manga, for example
Screenshot is from reddit and is a little old
lunar hinge
Something I would like to see is a configurable XP share. Setting the ratios yourself and even being able to turn it off completely if you want.
wispy yarrow
Some are a little goofy, like Saver and stuff
Gold is forever my boy
That kid raised a Togepi who turned out to be a delinquent
And I love it
signal glen
The Black/White 2 protags are weird in the manga if I remember. The boy is a member of the International Police and the girl was part of Team Plasma.
lunar hinge
And idea for what I have would be one that reduces the catch rate but turns basically every ball into a level ball/heal ball. A ranger type.
lunar hinge
languid lichen
sudden spade
As a trainer with a Snorlax, this sort of architecture is insulting and make it hard for my pokemon to go out and about!
pliant violet
this is a lie, we know snorlax isn't going out and about
sudden spade
Belly Drum
Body Slam
lunar hinge
I'm pretty sure anti-homeless architecture would not deter a Snorlax. They would simply crush it.
azure crane
obsidian stump
god, sword and shield get a lot of justifiable hate, but damn those games are just fun
I just finished up my first ever hardcore nuzlocke and the tournament at the end is so fucking hype
shoutout to my goat runerigus, took 2 max overgrows from leon's charizard and still lived to take it out
lunar hinge
Grinding up my Honedge still. It's slow going but it is going.
azure crane
lunar hinge
Can I say, I'm kinda disappointed all the electric rodents after the pikachu line are single stage.
vague tide
did we not just get a three stage one?
languid lichen
we did
arctic dagger
Pawmot is top tier electric rodent IMO
obtuse ravine
:3
vague tide
my husband was briefly an electric gym leader and he used a pawmot to surprisingly good effect (... at magfest like two years ago)
lunar hinge
In my defense I had forgot about Pawmi. I have not played SV.
red rampart
So they were
lunar hinge
Both My honedge and Roslia are level 30, just 10 more and they'll be ready for the gym.
wispy yarrow
god, sword and shield get a lot of justifiable hate, but damn those games are ju...
I love them so much
The idea of turning the gym challenge into big football style sporting events, was just... Great
eager vine
...holy shit SV were over two years ago
crikey...
obtuse ravine
The idea of turning the gym challenge into big football style sporting events, w...
yeah it was awesome and super hype
fickle thicket
The existing Trainer powers/specialties from the Manga, for example
the knowerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
snow cobalt
foggy mango
To be fair, Dustox is a pretty solid partner in the first part of the games it appears in
lunar hinge
I love Vikavolt and once I get in in sun or moon it will never leave my team. Just love the railgun stag beetle too much.
obsidian stump
I wish you could get it earlier in those games
its so cool but you have to wait so damn long
lunar hinge
Yeah, but it's worth it. But 500 bst for a pokemon who's first form you can get on the first route is pretty good.
lunar hinge
I caught one, named it Kuwabara.
manic kindle
i like your names
lunar hinge
Most of the time my names are fun little references to culture or the things that inspired the Pokemon. Other times I name an Onix Rocky.
lunar hinge
snow cobalt
so true
umbral hound
Suddenly thinking... I'm curious how Team Plasma started.
Did Ghetsis like... find N and go "I can manipulate this child as part of a decades-long scheme"??? Because, while he did do that, I sort of wonder if it was always intended as a scam.
Also with the whole "Team Neo Plasma" thing... I wonder if some of them still buy into the idea of "humans owning pokemon is inherently abusive" which Team Plasma originally pitched, and just use that to justify the things they do as "ah, well, everyone does wicked things, it's inherent in the system".
pliant violet
Did Ghetsis like... find N and go "I can manipulate this child as part of a deca...
he didn't find him
he's his father
umbral hound
Adoptive.
N was originally an orphan boy who lived in the woods, accompanied by only his Pokémon friends. Living this way allowed him to become able to understand what Pokémon are saying. Ghetsis, seeing the innocence within N, adopted him and started educating him in preparation for making him the king of Team Plasma.
pliant violet
never mind yeah
for some reason I thought he was his biological father
apparently ghetsis is 2m tall
fun ghetsis fact: he has a super effective move against all of N's pokemon in BW
snow cobalt
for some reason I thought he was his biological father
there's an uncanny degree of family resemblance tbh
snow cobalt
maybe he's N's bio uncle
pliant violet
I think he could be N's bio dad tbh
this is of course assuming N is a human
and not a zorua or zororark
snow cobalt
ye
i feel like the themes would get a little muddled if he was a Pokemon all along though
umbral hound
Agreed.
pliant violet
agreed
snow cobalt
triple combo
pliant violet
it's not the game for the blending of human and pokemon society
umbral hound
Also, Zoroark can't talk in human form, I think (I'm 90% sure Zorua especially can't) and N not only talks, but talks really quickly.
pliant violet
that's PLZA or even SuMo
we haven't seen one talk in human form
the zorua comment holds but N was notably a very quiet kid
like mute
it's one of the points that lends some weight
umbral hound
Source on that? I'm not saying you're wrong but I don't recall hearing anything like that.
pliant violet
I thought it came from his adoptive sisters?
umbral hound
Oh boy there's some fascinating lore in this Ultra Moon pokedex entry:
If a normally talkative child suddenly stops talking, it may have been replaced by Zorua.
...I wonder if there's an in-universe correlation between Zorua and autism?
pliant violet
I am often very wrong so I don't mind being called out
umbral hound
like, thematically, or as a stereotype?
pliant violet
Oh boy there's some *fascinating* lore in this Ultra Moon pokedex entry:
> If a ...
it reminds me of old changeling stories
umbral hound
exactly. And, yeah, as a stereotype.
Like if there's an in-universe stereotype that trans people train Sylveon.
also, what was the anime doing in gen 5?
Anthea and Concordia are N's allies, with similar abilities for hearing the voices of Pokémon. They debuted at the end of Team Plasma's Pokémon Manipulation!, where they rescued N after he was injured fighting Colress and Team Plasma in a city. With Ash and his friends in tow, they took N to their secret refuge in another dimension where they protect injured Pokémon.
I guess they made Team Plasma more overtly evil and made N ditch them before the story started?
pliant violet
I know that ghetsis is much more overt with his motives in the anime
pliant violet
I guess they made Team Plasma more overtly evil and made N ditch them before the...
well given iris is not a gym leader and not a champion the storyline is already a bit weird there
umbral hound
Fair, although she's only a gym leader in one of the two games, and doesn't appear at all in the other (I forget which).
pliant violet
pokemon white I think?
umbral hound
Probably.
pliant violet
oh apparently she shows up in both black and white
umbral hound
Oh, I didn't remember correctly, then.
pliant violet
in castelia city, when bianca's munna is stolen
eager vine
T4T date
she hits me with a damaging dark type move
my stats rise
chat am i justified?
obsidian stump
also, what was the anime *doing* in gen 5?
> Anthea and Concordia are N's allies...
iirc team plasma took a weird backseat in most of the anime
Team Rocket were strangely hypercompetent (for team rocket) in the BW anime, so they took up even more screentime than normal until the meloetta arc ended and I think they just vanished from the anime completely until gen 6
jeez, idk where I'm dredging these memories up from but damn are they vivid
I do also think the anime jumped up straight to neo-team plasma, bc while team rocket was off running around with their jetpacks I remember a few scenes of it implying plasma was up to some Clandestine Shit™️ in the background
umbral hound
Fair. I only watched the anime as a kid, so mostly the first few generations.
obsidian stump
I also only watched it as a kid, but I did watch a lot of gen 5
umbral hound
I think I have vague vague memories of Dawn, so gen 4, but none that I can concretely pin as being definitely gen 5. Maybe a few that I don't clearly remember?
obsidian stump
again, I'm just pulling this from random dark recesses of my mind lol, idk how the fuck I can regurgitate all this about an anime gen I don't think I even finished
umbral hound
Fair!
I meanwhle distracted myself thinking about how Fezandipiti is bad in some fascinating ways (as opposed to Munkidori, who's bad in very boring ways).
umbral hound
In battle.
mellow robin
looking them up right now
umbral hound
Like, its hidden ability is Technician. But if you look at its low-base power moves it gets, it has... double kick, aerial ace, poison tail, tail slap, quick attack, and dual wingbeat.
mellow robin
having 99 speed is... kinda rough
umbral hound
And Icy Wind and Air Cutter, actually.
it has higher physical attack than special, but its movepool is fairly mixed between the two.
Its speed is bad.
obsidian stump
technician dualwingbeat really isn't that bad
but yeah it really isn't great
I do think it would be better if toxic chain applied badpoison instead of normal poison though
then its double hit moves would have a bit more utility
mellow robin
it does
obsidian stump
oh it does?
umbral hound
I suppose. I'm not sure if you're "supposed to" use that, or toxic chain dual wingbeat to apply poison more often instead?
umbral hound
It's sort of just... okay at a lot of things, and exceptional at none of them.
mellow robin
I think toxic chain multhit is more interesting
umbral hound
Technician dual wingbeat would be more thrilling if it was actually flying type, probably.
obsidian stump
oh right, I forget its not a flying type either
umbral hound
It's a bit of a logic fail that you look at a bird flapping in the air and go "yeah this thing is weak to ground".
mellow robin
it's basically comparable to just stab dual wingbeat
obsidian stump
god all of the loyal 3 just kinda suck don't they
mellow robin
I think munkidori could be something, theoretically
umbral hound
Munkidori is just... another special sweeper, I feel like.
mellow robin
yeah, that's a fair read
umbral hound
It's neither particularly fast nor particularly durable.
obsidian stump
idk, from what I've heard (leaving wolfyvgc vids on in the background on autoplay while I do other shit), munkidori is the worst of the 3 considerably
umbral hound
That's why I said Munkidori was bad in a sort of boring way, while Fezandipiti is bad in a more interesting way.
Why does Munkidori learn Poltergeist???
obsidian stump
looking at okidogi now yeah, it does look decent enough
it gets wild coverage
its got good attack and decent bulk, and guard dog isn't bad as a hidden ability
ope
I've started up a heartgold nuzlocke now that I finished up sword, and I just managed to kill my third zubat in a day
umbral hound
oop
obsidian stump
I have lost noone else
umbral hound
...I wish Springtide Storm had 100% accuracy in rain like all the other storm moves. It'd give Enamorus-T a fun niche.
obsidian stump
...why does sandsear have 100% accuracy in rain and not sand??
umbral hound
I don't know... maybe balance? Maybe parallelism? Which makes Springtide Storm lacking it even worse.
obsidian stump
yeah lol
umbral hound
I think the only think Enamorus does is as Enamorus-I with Contrary Tera Stellar Tera Blast.
languid lichen
fezandipiti also isn't bad
mostly because it's a fairy with great special bulk and good speed
well
playable, if not in any of the speed-crept-deranged-new-mons tiers
99 is good enough
pliant violet
worldly plume
why is Cyndequil not there
pliant violet
they got him
fire ground emboar, water ice feraligator, grass dragon meganium, calling it now
languid lichen
i think meganium will be grass/fairy
chikorita in the trailer had a fairy move it hasn't learned previously
disarming voice iirc
blissful needle
Sometimes I get bored and check pokemon comp memes
azure crane
snow cobalt
so true
honest cairn
fire ground emboar, water ice feraligator, grass dragon meganium, calling it now
i think dragon water feraligator it learns dd on level and grass fairy meg, they sometimes like doing a thing where in a circle the starters are double weak to the next
emboar maybe steel
arctic dagger
fire ground emboar, water ice feraligator, grass dragon meganium, calling it now
Fire/poison emboar, water/dragon feraligatr, grass/faery chikorita is my bet
soft isleBOT
That’s our guess too
Tohu (Any) ↩️
obsidian stump
y'all I need opinions. I'm playing through an HG nuzlocke rn, and I'm about to get my safari zone encounter; do I go for a larvitar at the risk of getting a lickitung instead, or do I settle for a guaranteed misdreavus?
snow cobalt
risk everything for larvitar
obsidian stump
I will report back in an hour so once baoba lets me change the zones then
torpid pivot
My best Nuzlocke rng was still getting a Pikachu out of Viridian Forest
pliant violet
why is that good
torpid pivot
The other options are Rattata and Weedle generally
So just anything was cool
Chances of getting an electric type in general weren't huge
signal glen
Wild Pikachu encounters in Viridian are also what, 5% chance?
manic kindle
just in time for Brock 💪
torpid pivot
At least I had an actual starter for that, Bulba my lovely lad, so good at Most Things
Brock in Pokemon Yellow is goddamn humbling
foggy mango
God I shudder at the idea of doing a Yellow nuzlocke and not getting either Caterpie or Mankey before Brock
manic kindle
its not so bad
torpid pivot
You can get Mankey that early? Dang
manic kindle
*depending on your nuzlocke rules
foggy mango
Yeah Yellow adds Mankey in the route to the left of Viridian City
manic kindle
If we're doing level caps and its og Yellow, you can get by with Growl-spam and Sand Attacks unless you got destroyed on capture rng
you mostly need a way to dodge Bide
foggy mango
That is true
torpid pivot
Well my og yellow was less nuzlocke and more 'i was seven' but god would've loved an ape of my own
manic kindle
if its gen3 or later, its trickier because Brock has actual Rock-type moves
the downside to gen1 is you cant use poison :(
foggy mango
Oof yeah. I remember doing a proper playthrough of Gen I and dreading Brock only to realize he doesn’t have rock moves in Gen I.
manic kindle
Brock having 10 full heals is such a funny prank to play on the player
torpid pivot
'No. Level up and get Absorb. >:['
manic kindle
you can abuse this in the sense that he gives up his attack to instantly use it but its largely niche
torpid pivot
Wait doesn't learn Absorb, must've been Confusion
foggy mango
But anyways, yeah Mankey was added to the early routes starting with Yellow since Pikachu (and later Charmander in Gen III) didn’t have a reliable way of dealing with Brock early on. There is Butterfree for Gen I, but Mankey is there more as a “get this fight done relatively quick” option.
manic kindle
Charmander did also get a unique gen3 only buff for a bit
foggy mango
Mmmm Metal Claw
azure crane
obtuse ravine
what pokemon is this
red rampart
Love shaymin tbh, most adorable mythical
snow cobalt
itty bitty
foggy mango
“Okay so, I am very smol”
lunar hinge
S M O L.
arctic dagger
Mythicals aren't real
They're competitive-only pokemon as far as I'm concerned lmao
manic kindle
they're so cute tho
arctic dagger
This is true but like
I've legit never used them in the games
Because I've never gotten to do any events
manic kindle
they're a treat for attending even-
yeah that would do it
I have very fond memories of getting my little mythical guys
arctic dagger
There's lots of places you just couldn't get events in the US
So they just felt like a fuck you you can't get these to me
"Hope you live in a city!"
obtuse ravine
i tried to get the tera flying eevee at my local gamestop but they just didn't get the code
manic kindle
:( thats sad
honest cairn
recently learned theres people who hate the garbador line, how? its wonderful
red rampart
Pretty much “it’s ugly” or “it’s just a pile of garbage”
cold rain
it is just a pile of garbage, which is why it's funny enough that I don't mind it
honest cairn
maybe i just love some uglier pokemon im like one of 2 bruxish defenders
cold rain
bruxish is ugly but being ugly is the entire thing that pokemon does
make it not ugly and you're worse off than maractus as far as being lame and boring
notably it's also ugly in a way we haven't seen in previous ugly fish pokemon like magikarp and feebas
also it refuses to become pretty or cool like milotic and gyrados
honest cairn
also i love its ability, though it bugs me that that same ability exists like 4 times named something different each time
red rampart
I'm kind of ambivalent on bruxish, on one hand I love the humuhumunukunukuapua'a rep, but on the other hand I really don't like how they just put a weird thing on its head for no reason
snow cobalt
Which abilities?
cold rain
i also have no strong opinions on bruxish one way or another
honest cairn
Which abilities?
armor tail queenly majesty and dazzling
red rampart
Which abilities?
Looks like it has an ability that disables your opponent's priority moves, so I assume that
cold rain
though I did not notice the humuhumunukunukuapua'a reference because I thought it was a more standard ugly fish pokemon like magikarp and feebas
red rampart
I was gonna complain about it having lips too but no the humuhumu actually just has those too
deft path
They're competitive-only pokemon as far as I'm concerned lmao
Mythical Arent even allowed in comp lol
Outside of DLC
that's why smeargle was so good
Be ause it could steal mythicals signature moves that didn't need to be balanced
honest cairn
bit of a "gross"er image but this is pretty accurate to the pokemon ( i know this is a titan not a reef trigger)
why they gave it a psychic anglerfish dongle ill never know
arctic dagger
Mythical Arent even allowed in comp lol
I mean, it's not allowed in VGC, sure?
manic kindle
recently learned theres people who hate the garbador line, how? its wonderful
trubbish is my favorite cat
arctic dagger
It's absolutely allowed in most smogon formats
They're certainly not banned from smogon formats just for being mythical, although a decent amount end up in ubers lmao
languid lichen
mythicals?
most of those are never in ubers
it's mostly just like
arceus
darkrai
oh, also marshadow and genesect
but that's not a large list
arctic dagger
I want to say the steel/psychic star was in ubers at some point
foggy mango
Deoxys-A was Ubers for a bit iirc, if and only because 180/180/150 offensive base stats means something is going to take heavy damage if you can’t protect
lunar hinge
The restartitis hit on x 😔
manic kindle
Mythical Arent even allowed in comp lol
They also dont count for Dex requirements
eager vine
does anyone by chance have the link to this website?
fickle thicket
fickle thicket
umbral hound
thinking about pokemon I want to do teambuilding things with but which are not currently super well positioned (Sableye and Gastrodon mostly. Maybe Enamorus-Therian but I'd be more incentivised to use her if Springtide Storm worked like all the other storms.)
eager vine
https://cajunavenger.github.io/
very tough picks
blissful needle
limber moss
lunar hinge
obsidian stump
https://cajunavenger.github.io/
This having favorite gmax at the bottom but not favorite mega is criminal
obtuse ravine
what normal type is this
red rampart
I think it's from one of the pokestar studio movies
spring hedge
blame the app
trail bridge
what normal type is this
Giant woman, the most normalest of opponents
spring hedge
pokéstar studios also has such opponent pokémon as "some karate guy", "ufo", and "horrible blood-red cycloptic blob-monsters"
lunar hinge
Don't forget Mechatyranitar and Mechatyranitar II.
obtuse ravine
I think it's from one of the pokestar studio movies
looked this up, forgot this was a game mode LOL
i thought you meant an irl movie series for a second
umbral hound
Do you want to hear something horrible I just learned?
The only flying-type moves Enamorus learns are Tailwind and Fly.
Springtide Storm just... didn't get updated with the rest of the signature storms, so it only has 5 PP instead of 10 and doesn't have perfect accuracy in rain and that's just... dispiriting.
I want to do something with Enamorus-T in rain and/or trick room, but game freak just didn't give her anything she needs.
sudden spade
Oh boy, fly
umbral hound
I'd sort of respect having to use tera flying tera blast, but... it still really hurts.
Imagine if she got hurricane and Spingtide Storm got fixed. She'd suddenly become Genuinely Good (at least kind of).
manic kindle
You have Fairy STAB, you dont need flying stab tbh
flying is mostly useful for its defensive properties
tera fairy choice specs moonblast/dazzling gleam can get the work in, and you get great coverage in Mystical Fire and Earth Power, its kinda awesome
umbral hound
It's still just kind of awkward. And... well, I'm pretty sure everything you just described also applied to Flutter Mane. If I want to use Enamorus, I don't want it to just be "worse flutter mane". Admittedly Flutter Mane is absurd and this isn't a fair comparison, but... you get my point.
Springtide Storm is good, but unnecessarily worse than the other storms, or that'd be a niche. The flying typing is OK defensively, but it'd be nice to have STAB for it.
obsidian stump
it is not looking good for my heartgold nuzlocke
this is what I got for lance
...yeah, died to gyarados' first two moves
rip
welp, I don't really want to do johto again right away, so I'm gonna try to figure out how to nuzlocke SV. Y'all got any ideas for name themes?
fickle thicket
what normal type is this
that's bouffalant from gen 5
fickle thicket
Despite "Wanderd" not being a word, "Drednaw" reads like something written backwards
arctic dagger
what normal type is this
That's famous "bi office lady" from hit show The Powerpuff Girls where she played the mayor's secretary
She's also known for playing The Mom in many other cartoons due to her natural lack of an upper body
deft path
That's famous "bi office lady" from hit show The Powerpuff Girls where she playe...
Miss Sara Bellum
arctic dagger
Yeah that's the characters name but her name is Bi Office Lady
south laurel
Sara Bellum has an upper body tho
She just doesn't have a face
But she has considerable assets
azure crane
You actually want Tera Stellar with Enamorus. Contrary means using Tera Blast actually increases your attack stats.
arctic dagger
Is enamorus better than serperior for this?
azure crane
Yep. It has a better defensive typing. Serperior wants 
for coverage and defense.
azure crane
Leaf Storm is also a better boosting move.
Enamorus has nearly perfect coverage with Moonblast and Earth Power, then you get Tera Blast for boosting SpA, and Superpower for Blissey switching in.
azure crane
I've got singles brain.
arctic dagger
I also have singles brain
Both are pretty weird formats tbh
I wish there was a better doubles Smogon format
I really dislike a lot of the arbitrary feeling vgc rules
trail bridge
hmm (playing a romhack of emerald)
manic kindle
I really dislike a lot of the arbitrary feeling vgc rules
if i may ask, what feels arbitrary?
arctic dagger
if i may ask, what feels arbitrary?
The mythic/legendary stuff mostly
A lot of them are worse than the paradox Pokemon for instance but get penalized for an arbitrary label
Also random note my new profile is a doodle someone did of me as a deino
eager vine
Also random note my new profile is a doodle someone did of me as a deino
omg...
deft path
The mythic/legendary stuff mostly
The idea behind them is extremely straightforward tho
VGC isn't sorted based on power level usually
It's based on releases
That's why first format excludes post game pokemon and only counts regional dex
and the the second reg typically includes post game but not dlc
And so on
Mythics are excluded because there's not a reliable way to acquire them and VGC heavily discourages genning
so that's designed to prevent you from feeling like you lost because you missed a timed event
Legendaries are also allowed unrestricted in most formats, just not box legendaries
deft path
I mean most of the balance in vgc comes from not letting people use whatever lol
arctic dagger
And base things on power
Instead of... Random arbitrary stuff that has nothing to do with power
deft path
That's different from how VGC is designed tho
arctic dagger
Yes?
deft path
VGC isnt meant to be pure power
arctic dagger
... Yeah I'm not disagreeing.
cold rain
usage rates are semi-related to power level to be fair
deft path
it's meant to primarily be based around release dates and thematic stuff
arctic dagger
I don't want it to be vgc
That's literally what I said
I want a doubles format that isn't it
cold rain
like The Lax in gen 2 would not be The Lax if it wasn't good
deft path
oh
Yeah thats probably never happening sadly
I would like that too
I just misread what you were saying sorry
smogon users are too attached to singles to really ever properly implement doubles imo
Which is just for the worse I think?
arctic dagger
I wish there was a better doubles Smogon format
This was the original statement basically
deft path
I generally think doubles Is the way that competitive is actually meant to be played and designed
arctic dagger
That I think doubles is super cool
deft path
yeah doubles is imo the definitive experience
arctic dagger
But I want a Smogon style form for it
umbral hound
Honestly "doubles pick 4 of 6 but with power-based banlists" would be cool.
deft path
Honestly "doubles pick 4 of 6 but with power-based banlists" would be cool.
Reg H
You're literally describing Reg H
arctic dagger
Honestly I'd prefer 6 of 6 or like 6 of 8 but yeah
umbral hound
Reg H was kind of that, but... didn't it still stick all the pardoxes in the same category?
deft path
4 of 6 is what's generally agreed for time and balance
arctic dagger
Or pick between two teams of 6?
IDK I like more than 4 Pokemon, doubles is already faster as a format
deft path
The main reason for 4/6 is so that you can do team pivots and mind game shit
umbral hound
I agree, with the caveat that they do so better when they're meaningful restrictions.
arctic dagger
I think restrictions are important, I just think vgc restrictions are not the ones I want lmao
umbral hound
4/6 allows for some degree of mindgames and planning.
deft path
Two teams of six introduces a huge amount of variance
and also lets you cover bases more effectively
arctic dagger
I mean I'm used to singles where you get no options, you just have your team of 6 and make do
deft path
4/6 makes you restrict yourself to design a team that can handle any strategy with a limited selection
arctic dagger
Seeing opponent's two set of 6 teams and then you pick yours sounds cool to me
deft path
I play exclusively doubles and I can definitely say 4/6 is generally the best way to run it in terms of keeping it from being overwhelming
deft path
Seeing opponent's two set of 6 teams and then you pick yours sounds cool to me
it sounds fun but it's kinda boring
deft path
It results in you having amazing coverage and the ability to not worry as much about bad matchups
arctic dagger
I mean. I think that should be ok too?
deft path
a huge part of doubles 4/6 is coverage and weaknesses
deft path
doubles is primarily list building tho
Given how much it's strategy and game plan reliant
arctic dagger
Would it be that in the six vs six format with Smogon style list restrictions?
IDK
umbral hound
And also I like the teambuilding aspects of it I say, as though I actually properly played it.
deft path
Support moves/abilities are what really defines doubles as a format
arctic dagger
I guess I'm saying I'd like to find out rather than just assume?
It feels like it should be different enough maybe the same rules don't necessarily apply, and I'd want to try a few variations to see what worked best
deft path
this isn't so much assuming as experience with older doubles formats
arctic dagger
I'd be perfectly happy to be wrong. I'd just want see that I am
We're theorizing about a format that won't exist
pliant violet
I'm hoping with champions we get to see stuff like that
arctic dagger
I might as well theorize big about it
pliant violet
more varied stuff tested out
deft path
I'd be happy to try and run some sets sometime to show it off but it's a pretty natural result of the introduction of support moves and abilities
arctic dagger
There's no risk
deft path
Doubles is really cool but really weird
deft path
it's a format where magmar is unironically good
arctic dagger
I assume with eviolite?
deft path
it's a really funny combo of reasons
manic kindle
Doubles is really cool but really weird
Thats the appeal for me 100%
Its not bogged down by smogon tiering its Wacky
pliant violet
I just want to play little cup, can't a man be happy
arctic dagger
Magmar with eviolite is better than magmortar a couple times in singles
deft path
Magmar with eviolite + follow me + vital spirit creates a pokemon that can never fall asleep and can redirect all attacks
that's what makes it good
arctic dagger
Oh it's a bulky sleep check
deft path
it's legitimately a really funny combination
arctic dagger
Yeah we have those in singles too
manic kindle
Follow Me is a key move
arctic dagger
Yeah thus the bulky
deft path
It forces you to waste single target moves or choose weaker spreads
arctic dagger
It lets it protect the other one, as where in singles we swap for same effect basically
pliant violet
I just want to play little cup, can't a man be happy
the funniest format
umbral hound
I love when Duraludon was very very very briefly Little Cup legal
deft path
sleep is also very popular in doubles
manic kindle
I love the messed up EV spreads in little cup
deft path
Thanks to amoongus and vivillon
pliant violet
sleep is the most accessible status
nah freeze is the best status effect
it's just a lot less accessible
arctic dagger
Ok but freeze isn't real and can't hurt me
pliant violet
if freeze ever became reliably accessible, there's your fomat
manic kindle
Im a Burn lover
arctic dagger
You never bother to plan anything around sleep in later generations
umbral hound
wait are people running vivillion?
arctic dagger
Stupid ice beam fishing in earlier gens
umbral hound
Spore Amoongus is very real though.
deft path
wait are people running vivillion?
Yes
arctic dagger
I assume Darkrai is banned in vgc?
deft path
vivillon has a stupidly good speed stat
arctic dagger
I choose to believe you
In singles it's our premier sleep Pokemon when it or sleep isn't banned
deft path
darkrai is like, mega banned
arctic dagger
Which to be fair like half of gens put it into Ubers or just ban sleep moves lmao
deft path
You used to be able to smuggle darkrai into doubles using smeargle
deft path
But that's why dark void
- Was banned as a move entirely
- Had it's accuracy and Pp halved
arctic dagger
It's still really good even nerfed in singles xD
deft path
smeargle is no longer allowed in later gens to learn mythic signature moves for this exact reason
deft path
Gen VI doublez
pliant violet
yea
arctic dagger
Eh, sporesetter teams are good too
arctic dagger
You can just bring spore and entry hazard and stuff with choice scarf
deft path
Vivillon is an option for insane people
deft path
You run choice scarf vivillon tera flying with compound eyes sleep powder + hurricane + tailwind
it gets sleep powder with 98% accuracy
manic kindle
Tailwind is also goated
sudden spade
smeargle is no longer allowed in later gens to learn mythic signature moves for ...
smeargle is no longer allowed
Fixed for you 😛
umbral hound
Spore is so limited that a lot of people use Sleep Powder.
arctic dagger
Tailwind is one of those moves that's even good in singles sometimes
So I imagine it's nuts in doubles
sudden spade
Tailwind setters are great in doubles
arctic dagger
I assume there's an rps with it and trick room
pliant violet
doesn't lando run both?
deft path
actually, with certain Pokémon, and tailwind, you can become so fast you outspeed trick room
arctic dagger
Wait is lando not mythical?
deft path
Lando is a legendary
arctic dagger
Wut. Ok sure.
deft path
and since he's not box he's allowed
pliant violet
sorry thundurus and tornadus (they're pranksters)
deft path
but in doubles he's not very good
arctic dagger
I legit tend to just assume anything not the box legendaries is mythical TBH
pliant violet
yeah I got my force of nature genie mixed up
deft path
I legit tend to just assume anything not the box legendaries is mythical TBH
mythicals are only pokemon from events
umbral hound
mythical = you get it from a temporary giveaway.
azure crane
arctic dagger
Is keldeo and the other dogs legendary or medical
deft path
keldeo is mythical
arctic dagger
Mythical
deft path
Cobalion/virizon/terrakion are legendary
arctic dagger
Huh. My brain just has "is it post game? Mythical" for some reason
deft path
Basically if you can catch it in a game without a limited time event irl, it's legendary
yeah no that's wrong
victini for example is an early game mythical
umbral hound
Annoyingly, Meloetta is still considered mythical even though it can now be obtained outside of an event. (Not that it'd see a ton of use, but still.)
deft path
Annoyingly, Meloetta is still considered mythical even though it can now be obta...
it's based on introduction
Same reason why manaphy and phione are still mythical
pliant violet
victini for example is an early game mythical
celebi and mew in the diamond pearl remakes
wait is it celebi or jirachi
I know they're mythical
arctic dagger
....mew is legendary right?
manic kindle
Im eager to see what Champions does with all this
pliant violet
Im eager to see what Champions does with all this
I wanna see about them mixing gimmicks
arctic dagger
Burn the vgc to the ground
pliant violet
we saw both mega and tera in the trailer
deft path
Mew sucks in vgc anyway
pliant violet
I want a format where multiple gimmicks are legal
arctic dagger
How???
deft path
I want a format where multiple gimmicks are legal
Gen VII
arctic dagger
It has every move
pliant violet
Mew sucks in vgc anyway
mew sucks ftfy
pliant violet
Gen VII
ok a good format where multiple gimmicks are legal (never z moves, terrible gimmick)
manic kindle
Base 100 stats all over just doesn't cut it in doubles
arctic dagger
That's true in singles too amusingly
deft path
and a shit ton of dark coverage
deft path
I dropped my highest use rate pokemon
pliant violet
the bear
deft path
Look at that! It's incineroar
pliant violet
dark urshifu
deft path
The same way you guys have Lando T we have incin
manic kindle
I love my dark lord Incineroar Wolfe Glicke
cold rain
I don't hate incineroar as much as i hate landorus
deft path
true! Bit hes still memed to death
i think. Incineroar is actually. Healthy for the format
cold rain
in fact i kinda like incineroar as the great heel wrestler of pokemon
deft path
But he is so funny to make fun of
cold rain
the CM Punk to gen 2 Snorlax's Andre the Giant
pliant violet
little cup has a bulky pivot that resembles incin in the form of mienfoo
it has been, since it's introduction, within top 3 of little cup always
manic kindle
the CM Punk to gen 2 Snorlax's Andre the Giant
Need this fanart
pliant violet
but not in a way that makes it want to be bannable
cold rain
rather than a really degenerate thing like prankster landorus was
deft path
it took 21 seconds for incineroar to enter a conversation about why mew sucks
pliant violet
longer than it takes incin to enter top tier of a meta when it's legal
deft path
What can I say except hes goated
pliant violet
I like him better than the kung fu bear squad
cold rain
actually is John Cena a heel? I'm not actually that clued in to fighting sports to know
pliant violet
no, john cena is historically the biggest baby face in the modern industry
cold rain
dang
so playing John Cena's intro track would not be completely appropriate for Incineroar
languid lichen
little cup has a bulky pivot that resembles incin in the form of mienfoo
mienfoo and vullaby, the two eternal tyrants of LC
pliant violet
they're good though!
languid lichen
they're definitely good for format health as staples, yeah
pliant violet
we love their benevolent dictatorship
pliant violet
you normally just run one of them, but having both is not insane
I'm a tyrunt apologist
languid lichen
iirc in gen 7 lc mienfoo had like a ~90% usage rate
cold rain
kings often arise, the least that can be asked is that they not be tyrants like prankster landorus
pliant violet
that sounds right
languid lichen
tyrunt goated
manic kindle
no, john cena is historically the biggest baby face in the modern industry
this has now changed as of this weekend
cold rain
this has now changed as of this weekend
that's good news, because now it's fully appropriate to play John Cena's intro theme for incineroar
manic kindle
manic kindle
its also notable cuz this was supposedly cena's retirement year
pliant violet
that's all pro wrestling
manic kindle
so he could be going out as a heel
pliant violet
it's all good bits
manic kindle
anyways i can now name my new litten InCenaRoar
pliant violet
notably, cena holds the record for most make a wish wishes fulfilled
because he's got that in him
manic kindle
its been so long since he's been a heel im interested to see if hes still got that dog in him
pliant violet
I also like crabrawler in little cup
because it means I do not have to evolve it
doduo is also uniquely positioned in the meta
lunar hinge
https://bsky.app/profile/fightful.com/post/3ljeioc6qkk2l
Majin Cena.
azure crane
cold rain
this just makes me hungry for apples
pliant violet
@manic kindle
graceful quartz
https://bsky.app/profile/oliverhamlin.bsky.social/post/3ljnedj2pec22
OHHHHH I LOVE THIS
manic kindle
Its our interests combined
snow cobalt
Rave reviews
foggy mango
spring hedge
https://bsky.app/profile/oliverhamlin.bsky.social/post/3ljnedj2pec22
hell yeah hell yeah
azure crane
lunar hinge
pliant violet
where is fuecoco
umbral hound
Gible and totodile are going to bite you because they bite everything. Growlithe is going to bite you while playing around. Zorua is going to bite you with malice aforethought. Not sure about Shinx or Vulpix.
lunar hinge
Shinx and Vulpix bite your sleeve to get your attention.
languid lichen
azure crane
near flower
go my gators
obtuse ravine
ow
fickle thicket
for how revealing and dramatic it is, this latest episode sure is fucking boring
obsidian stump
attempt two of my HG hardcore nuzlocke has been blessed
covert saffron
tru
round perch
@suisouori
lunar hinge
I think it would be neat if they combine the early route bug and pseudolegendary to be the first bug/dragon type.
obsidian stump
well then
snow cobalt
yooooooo
obsidian stump
I don't normally use legendaries in these, but I think I'll make an exception
once I catch the damn thing
fortunately they stay shiny after they run
oh wait I'm stupid, I have this save's masterball already
anyone got nickname ideas? I'm doing jobs/professions for this run
snow cobalt
Ranger
obsidian stump
well tracking them down again was uhh, frustrating, but everyone meet Ranger the Raikou
obsidian stump
I don't think they were quite full odds unfortunately, my Rom is slightly hacked and I've seen a few things crop up that I didn't realize I turned on
But it's still pretty fucking cool
snow cobalt
covert saffron
well tracking them down again was uhh, frustrating, but everyone meet Ranger the...
shame about that nature tho
obsidian stump
wym? thats a fine nature
+def -atk is perfectly solid on raikou, especially for a nuzlocke
lunar hinge
Sun team planned, Decidueye, Vikavolt, Golisopod, Salazzle, Kommo-o, and Solgaleo.
arctic dagger
For what
lunar hinge
My main pokemon team for my casual playthrough. I like preplanning what pokemon will be on my main team.
manic kindle
i like those nerds
obsidian stump
Half of those are very late game, if you like preplanning everything you may want to decide who you'll use until you get to the last island
lunar hinge
Oh I know I plan on using other things, don't worry.
I got a Wingull, Grubbin, and Rowlett in in my party and Pikipek and Slowpoke in the PC.
fickle thicket
where's the fish
lunar hinge
Wishiwashi?
pliant violet
Curiosity: any still play Pokémon go?
arctic dagger
My dad does
soft isleBOT
We have a few friends who do
manic kindle
several of my coworkers
eager vine
half the people i know
near flower
my granblue fantasy crewmates
azure crane
languid lichen
protein
obsidian stump
I'm finally getting around to playing the scarlet and violet DLC, and I'm starting a new save to do it because I want to re-experience everything
would anyone happen to have a spare friend ball they could trade me to catch ogerpon in?
it feels like the only correct choice
manic kindle
ooo ill check in the afternoon tomorrow
lunar hinge
My hottest Pokemon take is that 'Too much water' is a valid complaint about the Hoenn games. The map is 50 percent water and I'm only the 3rd route and already have 3 water types.
cold rain
i love wingull and tentacool
i wish i could play an entire pokemon game that just has wingull and tentacool
lunar hinge
I do too, It's probably going to be on my final team, but still, there's just too many.
eager vine
My hottest Pokemon take is that 'Too much water' is a valid complaint about the ...
i'm gonna send my hoenn elites after you
we're gonna flood your area code with water
and take away your surf hm
so you're stuck on a rock with five zangoose
but don't worry cuz we'll helicopter lift you out of there
but then you'll owe us your life
and as a contract you'll never speak ill of hoenn again
red rampart
Pikasprey softlock ass scenario
cold rain
anywhere that there is land and water, team aqua and team magma will be there
soft isleBOT
We’re massive Hoenn enjoyers and we agree completely
Slash ↩️
lunar hinge
I am also, Gen 3 was my first gen.
spring hedge
you know what they say, hydrate or diedrate (i am abducted by a swarm of beheeyem)
obsidian stump
ooo ill check in the afternoon tomorrow
any word on this? 
manic kindle
:( i dont have one
obsidian stump
...well that was fast
finally got around to hunting for the ball at the auction, and I got it on only 1 reset
my pokemon luck has been fucking bonkers recently
at least when I'm not resetting for starter gender lol
obsidian stump
Mhm, so good news and bad news
Good news is I have found my second random shiny of the day
Bad news is I'm not sure I can actually catch it
nvm we good
lunar hinge
The red comet...
manic kindle
a great little catch
arctic dagger
Well it appears a level 15 fire puppy is about to be caught in a Pokeball or hit by a very big hammer
It's also a dude and standing on some rocks in front of a cliff
And you have an ultra ball
graceful quartz
A new chapter of Shaded Silk is now available:
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/shaded-silk-pokemon-oc-isekai.1184962/post-109908863
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/shaded-silk-pokemon-isekai-oc.136211/post-34610165
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59124394/chapters/163856782
pliant violet
what happened to your courage fab? the shaded silk stuff has been very good
obsidian stump
Well it appears a level 15 fire puppy is about to be caught in a Pokeball or hit...
Definitely did not hit the shiny fire puppy with the hammer 😛
pliant violet
how have you found 3 real shinies in one day
pliant violet
oh, yellow?
obsidian stump
Here, this one is a little better quality
... slightly
it is a little funny that two of them are yellow yeah
obsidian stump
oh yeah huh
graceful quartz
what happened to your courage fab? the shaded silk stuff has been very good
Certain comments on SpaceBattles.
pliant violet
Certain comments on SpaceBattles.
Oh rude of them, you’re doing great work
graceful quartz
Oh rude of them, you’re doing great work
Thank you for the kind words.
pliant violet
...
obtuse ravine
😭
graceful quartz
I feel like I'm missing context here, given peoples' reactions.
arctic dagger
Woooo. It's back
arctic dagger
A new chapter of Shaded Silk is now available:
https://forums.spacebattles.com/t...
So glad to see it back
graceful quartz
Glad to hear that you're happy to see it. :D
arctic dagger
Also a ton of people in the thread on space battles at least super happy to see it too
red rampart
Anyone want to trade for a shiny Growlithe? I have a spare
Did you start the playthrough with the shiny charm somehow
obsidian stump
Fucking apparently lol
obsidian stump
I feel like I'm missing context here, given peoples' reactions.
I found 4 completely random, full odds shinies in the span of about 8 hours
red rampart
And this is her second shiny growlithe!
obsidian stump
The really funny thing about puppy number 2 is that it spawned fully in the middle of a cluster of cufant and gurdurr I saw out of the corner of my eye, and I only went over to investigate because I couldn't tell what the gurdurr's girder was at a glance
So I very nearly missed it entirely
graceful quartz
Wow.
lunar hinge
My Sun team currently.
umbral hound
...does Iron Valiant still learn Skill Swap, or has that been patched out?
lunar hinge
It's weird that flying is the fourth most common pokemon type, but there's only 3 mono flying types.
snow cobalt
Roostproofing
sudden spade
I mean, it would mean 'no weakness while roosting' but with no resistances either, it would be pretty vulnerable to hard hitting sweepers.
languid lichen
it's also not especially different from one of the forty normal/flyings clicking roost
snow cobalt
I assumed early games just didn't have a way to deal with "you no longer have a type"
or at least, normal type was preferable to that
languid lichen
yeah you're fight weak but most things hitting birds are gonna be a brick to the head or lightning
sudden spade
New Defensive Flying/Fire with Burn Up and Roost. 😛
You know what type I was remarkably dissapointed by?
Stellar
You are not a real type
You are, at best, a non-status condition.
obsidian stump
yeah until we get native stellar pokemon, its not a real type
its just a weird subgimmick
lunar hinge
Should I try to get the 1 percent route 3 Bagon... Or do I spare myself torture.
snow cobalt
life is short
obsidian stump
why stop at bagon? if you're gonna go for it go all the way for the salamence call-in
sudden spade
yeah until we get native stellar pokemon, its not a real type
Which is amusing as I feel like if they REALLY wanted ot make it a real type, there's a good number of types that could do with something interacting with them.
Like give Ice resistance to it and Normal Super Effective against it. XD
obsidian stump
oh speaking of balancing the type chart, I've been thinking about this a lot recently, and have come to a potentially hot take decision
Ice should be super effective against fairy
not sure they'd ever actually do that, but I think it would go a decent ways towards helping better balance both types
lunar hinge
What would be the justification for it? Not balance wise but in universe.
near flower
little buggy things do badly against ice
obsidian stump
fairies are pretty strongly associated with spooky/sparkly woodland creature at this point, which I would presume do not do well with being frozen/having their home freeze over and get covered in snow
near flower
but also i think ice/snow/winter are often threats in fairy tales (due to them being threats to the people creating those tales)
obsidian stump
yeah thats probably a better explanation
sudden spade
My thought would be: Very few fairy pokemon are malevolent. They tend to be associated more with light and summer than cold and winter.
Like, there's not none
But very few of them are Creepy Fairy Tale Stuff
obsidian stump
its been a sort of implicit assumption of mine that it does make sense for all these sorts of reasons, so I hadn't put much thought into how I would explain it
also, somewhat related, I think bug should resist fairy instead of the other way around
sudden spade
'Fairy pokemon's hearts are easily chilled, making ice super effective against them'
obsidian stump
for similar fairytale vibes reasons of the small creatures native to fairy woods being the naturally resilient to the magic of the fae
sudden spade
Also: Pokemon, give me some more good Fairy Physical Stuff.
obsidian stump
(and obv balance reasons)
sudden spade
Spirit Break exists and is fun but is also on exactly Two Faries.