POKÉMON CENTER

[arctic dagger]

But kinda the same

[pliant violet]

maybe yeah

that's about when the themes become a lot more crystalised

Gen IV and V

[arctic dagger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qfJ5tpWUPmmAKbGFz2BUD7PEY2fW6TUMl0PBU-ICaQg/edit?usp=drivesdk

Put in all the b&w regional lines

Gonna sort through these and thoughts first

I put comments on but not editing

If people want to add thoughts

[pliant violet]

so glad you kept scolipede

I think you should keep the monkeys

they suck

this is positive

[arctic dagger]

I haven't decided to keep anything

Just listed them out

So far only ones I've said I don't want to keep is watchdog and samurott

Want to keep the monkeys but give them a secondary evolved type

That's the same for all 3

[red rampart]

The monkeys are aggressively mediocre at worst imo

[arctic dagger]

To help make them more interesting

I think they're iconic though

Even if they're boring

So I want to make them spicier but keep them

[pliant violet]

I was thinking evo yeah

[arctic dagger]

Oh I was thinking just a regional variant for the evolved forms

[pliant violet]

if you don't want to do same type you can give them secondary type based on their inspiration (the hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil monkeys)

sounds like some sort of triangle with dark

[arctic dagger]

I meant they all get the same secondary typing

Dark would work yeah

[pliant violet]

for bisharp you gotta remember there's also a chess theme there

which in third form is shogi but you could do a chess based one for your variant

[arctic dagger]

Yeah

Ok I put my basic notes and thoughts down

@pliant violet what do throh and sawk need?

I'd like to help them some but they're just so whatever

I almost want to give them a convergent evolution

They start out different but evolve into the same Pokemon

That does MMA or something

[languid lichen]

lmao make it a ghost type

and it's throh and sawk stitched together

the most dangerous four-armed comedy duo

[azure crane]

You should give the monkeys a 3rd evolution.

[arctic dagger]

Currently have 10 Pokemon I'm looking to get rid of

And then just not sure what to do with unfezant, heatmor, and bouffalant

I don't hate them, they're just boring

[pliant violet]

To have less silly names

really I don't know

they're just worse than the hitmon line

giving them a prevo and a third makes that connection stronger but I think it's fun to do

they're really traditionally japanese too in a weird way

japanese martial arts and red and blue oni

[languid lichen]

i love bouffalant...

[arctic dagger]

Well I don't, and if we're doing a buffalo starter...

I'm not super attached to the buffalo starter though

[languid lichen]

how can you not like the afro bison with a floofy hair pun :(

[arctic dagger]

It's just not interesting to me

IDK why I'd ever run it

Maybe a regional variant with fluffy and even more floof

[languid lichen]

give it a pompadour...

[arctic dagger]

Pompadour doesn't seem very Boston

Tbh

Maybe that's ok

Ok I've got eleven Pokemon I want to give evos to

One of them is just basculegion lmao

And four I'm not sure about

I might cut sawk/throh and do a boxing and BJJ pair instead

Yeah

Those are much more Boston martial arts

[pliant violet]

there's already hitmonchan for boxing but you can do something pretty different

even in the same themeing

[arctic dagger]

Yeah

Or just include Hitmonchan line

Tbh

[pliant violet]

yes

sawk and throh are such a weird pair, especially for the american region

though up until that point all games had been parts of japan so like, I sorta get it

[arctic dagger]

Eh I've opened the sheet to full edits

Ok any Pokemon we think aren't Gen5 that should definitely show up?

[deft path]

archaludon

and revavroom

[arctic dagger]

Agreed

[pliant violet]

Sqwackabilly

however it's spelled

[arctic dagger]

Why?

We already have unfezant and braviary for normal/flying

[pliant violet]

rockabilly is a very very american thing

to the point it was weird to me to see it in paldea

[arctic dagger]

That's a Southern US thing though

[deft path]

It's a greaser

Which is also very new York too

[arctic dagger]

Yeah but this is Boston

[deft path]

transplants

[arctic dagger]

Ok I'll put it in for a regional

But we don't need another normal/flying bird

[deft path]

fighting flying

[languid lichen]

braviary is too american not to run

[deft path]

that's already gen V

the question is non gen V currently

OH

Mabosstif

and Houndstone

[languid lichen]

that's a good shot

[pliant violet]

for the grappling hitmon: Hitmongracie

it is the only way

I hate those bastards but it is the right name

oh if you're doing regionals

gotta have a regional meowth

[arctic dagger]

Regional Porygon based on mit

[pliant violet]

I am mad paldea did not do a regional meowth and I don't even like meowth

[arctic dagger]

Thick fat ice/normal Meowth?

[pliant violet]

even just pure ice

then the matter is if you want regional evo or a regional persian

[arctic dagger]

Fair

[pliant violet]

is there any special niches you want filled in the region?

like snorlax blocking paths is both iconic and fun

[arctic dagger]

Xatu?

[pliant violet]

the taxi corviknight

[arctic dagger]

Xatu maybe replace sigilyph?

Yeah

Totem polls are a more north American and sigils South

[pliant violet]

leprechaun pokemon? for the celtics?

[arctic dagger]

Yeah we need something for Celtics, Patriots, and red Sox

[pliant violet]

at least one of them will be a fighting type

[arctic dagger]

That's the bruins

Ice/fighting

Dark/grass for the Celtics

[pliant violet]

sports sorta comes under fighting type, depending how like... sporty you want them to be

dark grass celtics works

[arctic dagger]

Thinking fairy maybe for red Sox and normal for patriots

Not sure about secondary typing

[pliant violet]

idk what patriots logo is

[arctic dagger]

It's just a dudes head

It's a minuteman

With a star in the forehead

[pliant violet]

ah that makes it hard

space is psychic associated

but idk the vibes

[arctic dagger]

Star represents the star in the flag as a colony

[pliant violet]

ye I gathered that

[arctic dagger]

I think it's just one of the "just a dude" Pokemon tbh

[pliant violet]

there's also a matter of how referential you want to get

v fair

what sorta animals are boston coded

[arctic dagger]

Ticks, turkeys, lobsters

Cod

Deer

Bears

[pliant violet]

lobster do you want to do a new lobster pokemon, a regional from one of the other related pokemon, or just use one of them

[arctic dagger]

Whales

[pliant violet]

I would not have guessed ticks

for whales you are doing sky whales

this is not a negotiation

flying whales are peak

[arctic dagger]

We have a really bad epidemic of them, they give you a disease that makes you allergic to meat

Cows

We're known for dairy

To some extent

Mostly processing rather than actually raising though

Seagulls

But not pelicans

[pliant violet]

I'd also say consider what you want your cap on mons to be, how many

cause you can brainstorm ideas for a long time

[arctic dagger]

I'm gonna just throw stuff in

And then cut back

Easier to cut than to find more imo

[pliant violet]

reasonable

[arctic dagger]

What do you mean by sky whale

[pliant violet]

flying whales

[arctic dagger]

My first thought is to do whales and then ghost whales to talk about the whaling industry here in Salem

[pliant violet]

though I think wailord is already sorta supposed to be that

[pliant violet]

interesting

also with salem should probably include at least one of the witchy pokemon

[arctic dagger]

Could do a split Evo where if you evolve it in an urban environment it becomes ghost/flying or water/flying if not

[pliant violet]

that's fun

alternately, just the ghost whale is still a very fun idea

[arctic dagger]

I'm kinda eh on water flying is my concern

[pliant violet]

reasonable

[arctic dagger]

Because I kinda want to do a regional wingull evo

And that would be water/flying

[pliant violet]

you ever think about the second dlc for scvi is basically just like... a zoo

it's a storyline set in a zoo

[arctic dagger]

Scvi?

[pliant violet]

Scarlet violet

[arctic dagger]

Ah huh

[pliant violet]

Gen IX

[arctic dagger]

Yeah that could be neat

[pliant violet]

a gym in a zoo for the final gym is an idea I am set upon by

[arctic dagger]

Doing a water/normal exploud that's a foghorn

[pliant violet]

game will need a rat pokemon

[arctic dagger]

Yeah since we're getting rid of watchog

[pliant violet]

and it's got a city vibe

can't have a city without a rat

[arctic dagger]

Oh and we got rid of emolga

Although that's flying squirrel

[pliant violet]

so you need a pikaclone

any other regional niches that have to be filled

you kept the best bug type I saw

[arctic dagger]

I think we just get Alolan raticate

Tbh

[pliant violet]

that works yeah

[arctic dagger]

We need two fossils

[pliant violet]

I gotta go now but if you want my opinions on specific things please ping me and I'll reply when I can

[arctic dagger]

This'll be a long project

No rush

Just gonna grind at the data for a bit

Actually just gonna combine Pikachu and raticate

Regional electric Raticate

@pliant violet cutting regional Meowth for regional purugly

[pliant violet]

tragic but reasonable

that cat needs some love

[languid lichen]

BASED

GLAMEOW AND PURUGLY

THE GOOBERS

[arctic dagger]

Ok I've got 41 regional lines

I'm looking to bring back

Just at base

In addition to the fifty five ish from b/w

I'll need to break those out into how many actual Pokemon they are

But I expect we're around 200-250?

Ok 216 if we don't count the different rotoms

And 13ish fakemon concepts

If we count the evos

So we're looking for about a hundred more total

I'd like at least 50 of those to be new, but we have a lot of regionals

So I'm pretty ok with doing a more regional and fewer fakemon focused region

Thirty five regional lines ATM

Not all of which are new but most are

[near flower]

i know but i also like seeing pokemon in their native games so to speak

[deft path]

as sad as it is I think they're more interesting to get in SV

in swsh it's just a 5% encounter in like a random ass patch of grass on route 5

they can't even drop from trees

[near flower]

lol

[manic kindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/Comanie_/status/1870443491857469595

[arctic dagger]

I didn't even know applin wasn't a Gen 9 Pokemon tbh

[pliant violet]

yeah it's a good design

[pliant violet]

Thinking about my second pseudo legend line, and while it has the marsupial predator thing, I’m also thinking of giving it a like, resistance theme

[azure crane]

https://x.com/maple926/status/1870823288555057313

かな (@maple926) on X

アブソル

Twitter · Dec 22, 2024, 1:26 PM

[pliant violet]

@arctic dagger could turn conkledurr line into a regional baseball line

[arctic dagger]

Hmm

Make that the red Sox Pokemon?

[pliant violet]

baseball in general but yeah you can use coloration or whatever to give a red sox nod

say in this region, unlike nearby unova, the line has spent more time playing than working on worksites, to the degree that the columns they normally carry around have become better shaped for their favourite game

or something like that

[manic kindle]

Homerun Time

could be fun cuz their big hands could resemble catcher mitts

[pliant violet]

and they carry around stuff

[arctic dagger]

That's cute yeah I like it

Could you make the changes in the doc if you're free? I'm at work ATM

[sudden spade]

It's not always about the pokemon league spiderman...

[pliant violet]

can't atm

[wispy yarrow]

fairy type pokemon, but it's the baseball

[mellow robin]

regional fighting type sunkern that evolves from a baseball into a catcher's mitt

[sudden spade]

Bulletproof as an ability as it will catch all ball moves

[wispy yarrow]

Regional metagross who forms a catcher's mitt

it's all about the Met(agross)

[languid lichen]

i kinda want a like

coastal region dockworker timburr line

probably convergent cousin line instead of regional forms

so you can actually give em fitting names

unlike FYUCKING snowshrew alolan sandshrew

[arctic dagger]

It actually has an ability that heals when hit by Ball moves

[south laurel]

I like Conkeldur

[languid lichen]

timburr is my favorite of the line but i think they're all neat

fun take on the regional early fighting

[arctic dagger]

"It sleeps while levitating, using its springy tail like a pillow. " Best Kadabra fact

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/s/zURuGURNbE

Found this doodle and it's so cute

[red rampart]

https://bsky.app/profile/flaaffity.bsky.social/post/3ldyohgc42c2t
@obtuse ravine

Flaaffity (@flaaffity.bsky.social)

Almost there! Just waiting on the scarves to come in the mail!
#cyndaquil #pokemon #art #plush #needlefelting

Bluesky · Dec 23, 2024, 7:35 PM

[obtuse ravine]

[near flower]

da quil....!

[eager vine]

imagine if ghetsis got a low-taper fade

[azure crane]

[umbral hound]

I can't get over the fact I just remembered that the Totodile and Fuecoco lines (and presumably Sandile as well, although it isn't official) engage in unihemispherical sleep.

[near flower]

yeah! it's really cool!

my son. is so cute.

[azure crane]

I miss when AI was funny and stupid instead of menacing. https://www.aiweirdness.com/pokemon-generated-by-neural-network-17-03-31/

Also, I want to see some of these in a romhack.

Buttery Armor: When this Pokémon is hit by a contact move, the attacker's Accuracy drops.

[pliant violet]

god no please

Minma is definitely the coolest design

[azure crane]

Darp: All Pokémon on the field lose type immunities.

Wharmwbra: Sets a random weather or terrain at the end of the turn.

[deft path]

oh god no

Don't do that

[azure crane]

Most people in competitive will run Magic Guard anyway.

[languid lichen]

lmao

that's not the concern

and also there are only uh

three? four? pokemon in the game with magic guard

[deft path]

nobody runs magic guard

[azure crane]

Banger is just Punk Rock with a different name, the same way Turboblaze is the same as Mold Breaker.

[deft path]

People run clefairy but typically not for magic guard

and they really only run her in doubles

[pliant violet]

Libero and Protean

[languid lichen]

clefable gets run in singles

but still for unaware

[azure crane]

Unaware is bigger on Clefable this metagame because of the abundance of Pokémon that can set up and attack easily.

[languid lichen]

not mguard

[deft path]

i dont play singles

[azure crane]

But Magic Guard was bigger in Gen 6 and 7.

[deft path]

so i never comment on it

But either way nobody is running magic guard

And end of turn terrain setting is abominable for so many reasons

[pliant violet]

singles is not competitive

[azure crane]

We obviously need to figure out what Rum Power does, though.

[deft path]

Feel that? Thats true ...

[pliant violet]

rum has always been power

[mellow robin]

hustle, but for special moves

[arctic dagger]

I just realized the tera type ban is only for national Dex

I didn't even realize people still played that format LMAO

[sudden spade]

Tera type ban?

[arctic dagger]

Yeah they banned tera for the gen 9 national Dex format

Which is just the Pokemon available before the post game of scarvi

Basically

But like, it's... A very small format

[red rampart]

I thought national dex was the one where you could use any pokemon including ones that aren’t usable in the most recent pokemon generation

[azure crane]

Yeah, Tera Electric Air Balloon Shedinja is... a problem.

[arctic dagger]

Oh you're right

It's the format that's all inclusive

[azure crane]

I didn't play Gen 8, but Gen 9 really convinced me of the merits of import controls on Pokemon.

[arctic dagger]

Including Z moves and stuff lmao

Regardless it's a tiny format I don't even pay attention to as someone who does play singles

[umbral hound]

the people crave Sturdinja

[soft isle]

they should’ve let Shedinja into gen 9. Not because it would be a balanced pokemon in the competitive format, but because it would be really funny

[snow cobalt]

plz

[umbral hound]

the people crave sturdinja

(Sturdinja being Shedinja hacked to have Sturdy, as used in the Balanced Hackmons format. Wonder Guard Tera Electric Shedinja with a balloon is that, but worse.)

[languid lichen]

i think it's funny that sturdinja is always bad in the formats it's legal in

sometimes it's bad in an unhealthy and broken way

but it's always bad

whether that be in BH, AAA, or the various inheritance OMs

[umbral hound]

It's one of those things that's either unbeatable or trivially easy to defeat depending on your team, but taken to the utmost extreme.

[languid lichen]

yeah

[umbral hound]

If you have sandstorm, you're fine. If you have Rough Skin/Iron Barbs/Rocky Helmet, you're probably fine. If you have Toxic or Will-o-Wisp, you're fine. If you have Mold Breaker, you're fine. Otherwise you have a problem.

[languid lichen]

like everyone in BH runs moldymoves as a matter of course

[umbral hound]

Entry hazards also.

[languid lichen]

so sturdinja exists for one turn to endeavor and die on the switch

[umbral hound]

And, depending on the format, those aren't too big an ask! But sometimes 1 turn is enough, and other times, you can occasionally just manage to get away with it.

[languid lichen]

ye

[umbral hound]

And that's the nasty thing about Sturdinja: it's just good enough that every team has to be sure to have answers to it.

[languid lichen]

in BH specifically most answers are pretty incidental tho

the things that answer it also answer things like fur coat walls

[azure crane]

The other thing you need to be able to answer is Imposter Blissey.

[languid lichen]

and that one's way more vile

[umbral hound]

Yeah... the people do not crave Imposter Blissey. Or maybe they do but I don't.

[languid lichen]

blob is most of why i don't play BH

it's just so unfun

[pliant violet]

BH?

[languid lichen]

balanced hackmons

the aforementioned gamemode

"hackmons" is a format that says "if it can be done with a basic hacking tool on the cartridge, it's legal"

any four moves

max EVs in all stats

any ability

forms don't have to be legal, because you can force them into a battle

they have data, after all

(iirc except emax eternatus, j vaguely recall that one being fundamentally coded in a way that fucks with the hackmons base chassis)

(and thank fucking god, because that would be so boring otherwise)

Balanced Hackmons is a format that goes "yeah this is great, but it's un-fucking-playable with no banlist"

which is true

pure/true hackmons sucks donkey balls, because it (or at least did when i dipped my toes in) revolves around basically nothing but Wonder Guard + Powder + Sunsteel Strikemega scizor, various pdon atrocities, and a few other things i can't really remember anymore

BH bans wonder guard, huge/pure power, usually pdon when it existed, trapping, stakeout, last respects, things like that

because yeah, turns out contrary v-create choice band pdon isn't balanced

i do miss spectral thief though

[mellow robin]

I remember watching a vid that was talking about cramorant getting considered for a ban

[languid lichen]

in BH?

[mellow robin]

because of cramorant(pikachu-in-mouth) form yeah

[languid lichen]

what weird niche abuse case was gulp missile responsible for?

AHHH

the fucking forms

right

[mellow robin]

I may be misremembering but I think switching out even reset the pikachu

[languid lichen]

that makes sense

it's probably some coding futzery

where it resets to "the base cramorant form"

which it checks for and loads as [baby in pelican mouth]

[near flower]

pdon?

[languid lichen]

primal groudon

[near flower]

ooh

[languid lichen]

don and ogre, pdon and pogre

[near flower]

pogres

[mellow robin]

okay yeah I found the vid, it DID get banned in fact

[languid lichen]

and uh

ground/fire with the bst of a fucking omnipotent space god

in the gen where thousand arrows and v-create existed

turns out if you don't spend an item on its form change it's fucked!

and then pdon was legal but only with red orb

and it was still fucked

because itemless pdon still had access to v-create and thousand arrows and shore up and boosting and all sorts of other goodies

[pliant violet]

and a once per battle thing

[umbral hound]

Nnnnno, it wasn't a 1/battle thing. I think you could use Primal Reversion and Mega Evolution in the same battle. It was literally just the item. ...I think.

[pliant violet]

wait what

I uh

didn't know that

[umbral hound]

Also, unlike Mega Evolution and Ultra Burst, there is no limit to the number of times a Primal Reversion may be performed per battle.

They don't conflict with each other either.

[languid lichen]

yeah you could use both primals

and mray

before the mray ban that was half the teams

[umbral hound]

You may be thinking of Mega Rayquaza, which was a Mega Evolution. But instead of needing your single held item, you needed one of your four moves to be Dragon Ascent... aka flying-type Close Combat.

[languid lichen]

(the best flying stab GF has ever printed lmao)

[umbral hound]

I'm pretty sure that Rayquaza... well, it isn't really played much anymore, but it still runs Dragon Ascent just for its own effect even without Mega Evolution. Mega Rayquaza was not balanced.

[languid lichen]

and you didn't even have to click it to mega evolve

[umbral hound]

MRay receieved the dubious honor of being the first mon banned from Ubers.

[languid lichen]

second was zacian crowned

and hasn't miraidon just been banned out of ubers in gen 9?

[umbral hound]

I think maybe?

[azure crane]

It was

It's better than Koraidon because its effect boosts its STAB.

[pliant violet]

chat why do I think dipplin is so good

[mellow robin]

good taste

[near flower]

apple good

[pliant violet]

hydrapple is one of the designs of all time

[red rampart]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Key_System
...apparently b2w2's challenge mode doesn't actually change the stats of any of the pokemon, they just have a higher level with no* benefits

-# *technically it affects the damage formula

[pliant violet]

the ai change is the bigger one

[languid lichen]

i would assume it's a bug

but it's still quite silly

[pliant violet]

and then they never did difficulty stuff again

[red rampart]

They probably just forgot imo

Does mean the game is a lot easier than usual if you grind up to match levels though

[pliant violet]

don't you have to beat the game to unlock it anyway

and if you had the wrong game you had to get it from someone else

[red rampart]

Yep

But you could also get it early if you got the key from someone else

[deft path]

it adds more Pokémon to almost every trainer and changes their abilities/held items and movesets

It does actually change everything except the stats

the level change matters way less than all that other stuff

They be throwing life orbs at you

[red rampart]

It does yeah

It's just a very odd thing

[deft path]

it is a lil weird

Th challenge teams are scary tho

Life orb druddigon, muscle band aggron, flying gem aerodactyl

[arctic dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/s/EoZ7smjLbE

[soft isle]

https://bsky.app/profile/cyndaquilism.bsky.social/post/3lecs2do47222

Cyndaquilism (@cyndaquilism.bsky.social)

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Bluesky · Dec 27, 2024, 8:06 PM

[snow cobalt]

@obtuse ravine

[obtuse ravine]

[manic kindle]

https://x.com/NWaWF3mBF9Jj4Rc/status/1872612194363523245?t=Utge4GvVk6XsyGTv9HUfsQ&s=19

だいきちの研究（ポケカ垢） (@NWaWF3mBF9Jj4Rc) on X

一緒に考えてきた

Twitter · Dec 27, 2024, 11:55 AM

[red rampart]

https://fixupx.com/cco00oo/status/1861319889241395450

@glacial ore

[arctic dagger]

CUTE SHINY

[deft path]

I realised something very cool yesterday

The champion league in sv?

They matchup to the titans

and the order

la primera - rock
Rika - ground
poppy - steel
Larry - flying
Hassel - dragon

[pliant violet]

Larry maxing

[soft isle]

We pulled two full art Larry cards yesterday lol

[pliant violet]

larry maxing!!

[soft isle]

Presumably one is for him as a gym leader and the other is as the champion league

[near flower]

https://FIXUPx.com/NoriZCI/status/1873229093355045108

[honest cairn]

Negi posi angler mentioned !!!!

I always thought she looked like a gym leader

[wild thorn]

Oh shit that's NoriZC

Cool seeing art for a different franchise from them

[azure crane]

https://x.com/ssalrobyul/status/1873006431689122273

리치였던것 (@ssalrobyul) on X

Twitter · Dec 28, 2024, 2:01 PM

[near flower]

exactly why i posted it here! it's neat!
he also did pokeforms for saria silence and ifrit if i recall

[wild thorn]

Yeah, he did

https://fixupx.com/NoriZCI/status/1169481656371007488

https://fixupx.com/NoriZCI/status/1170556452194242560

https://preview.redd.it/pc3qt8p5r7j41.png?width=1661&format=png&auto=webp&s=b984f7587d4e40ad2957e940adabf243ac161cfc

https://preview.redd.it/j5qacdo7r7j41.png?width=1661&format=png&auto=webp&s=b874f363f9d322fd4e9253a61eb2a5ac29dac85d

[azure crane]

https://x.com/hc_pkmn/status/1873652928894173505

もなか@skeb募集中 (@hc_pkmn) on X

おそろい🎀

Twitter · Dec 30, 2024, 8:50 AM

[foggy mango]

Hey, anyone familiar with Emerald Legacy know what changes were made from the original Emerald? The only major ones I’ve gleaned are changing which stat Ghost and Dark types use and adding an in-game way to change Deoxys’ form.

[soft isle]

There’s moveset and slight stat changes too

Think they made Steven the champion again?

[red rampart]

@covert saffron we need your expertise

[covert saffron]

you find me stood at the mountaintop

wind whips my jacket, marked by the scars of previous nuzloccckes

i turn to face you, silently, a crobat’s silhouette tattooed on my cheek in miniature. you mash the a button as i exposit the following:

LMAO I WAS TYPING AND I FELL ASLEEP

:((( deleted my typing

i ain’t doin that again

[wispy yarrow]

-All pokemon are catchable in the dex in one game, National dex is available after postgame
-Team Aqua and Magma story is tightened up, more accurately depicting their goals and motivations, highlighting the real-life story they were based on
-Basically every Pokemon got new moves added to their learnset to make them more viable/less un-fun to use, and stats shifted around to make them just... better lol. Which has the side-effect of making random trainers a little more powerful.
-Brandon/May leave the story as Rivals to let Wally take over, since their focus was always catching more than battling anyhow, and Steven is more prominent in the story as the ultimate champion. Fighting him in the postgame is considered "beating" the game, etc.
-Lots of moves got buffed/changed (Cut is a bug-type move with a higher crit chance, etc), HMs can be unlearned as normal.
-You can check EV/IVs in the stat menu, very nice
-Significantly more double-battles, including Elite Four Double Battle Rematches, and Gym Leader Rematches
-Ghost is Special, Dark is Physical

The goal was to make an "ideal" version of Emerald, without removing what made it unique

There's other changes but that's... kinda the gist of it.

(If folks are curious, the Isahaya Bay project was sort of the basis for Team Aqua/Magma.)

"We need more farmland"
"Yeah but you're fucking up the ocean resources"

[foggy mango]

I take it the only way to effort train in a timely manner is still Macho Brace + PokeRus?

[wispy yarrow]

Yeah, they didn't change the ways to EV train or anything

It also introduces a built-in Hard mode and then Hardcore over that

Hard mode locks out non-pokeball items in battle

and caps your level at the next big fight's ace's level

Hardcore is basically that but also nuzlocke-style "permadeath"

[manic kindle]

https://np.reddit.com/r/PokemonLegacy/comments/1hcnkxh/faq_simple_questions_thread_please_read_here_first/m1prttc/

relevant FAQ for the three Legacy games

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonLegacy/wiki/documentation/

and all of their REALLY GOOD documentation

ive beaten Yellow + Crystal Legacy, and i just got my 7th badge in Emerald Legacy

a huge simple change thats been so nice has just been overall pokemon diversity within the hoenn dex; like, getting access to Spoink before a first gym or seeing magma/aqua use over 10 different pokemon and more has been wonderful

as alice said the Legacy games work to keep as much of the original game experience intact so no ways to cheese out EVs or anything, but it also means the games arent expecting you to 252/252 your entire team, you can just play the games as-is

[wispy yarrow]

Absol my beloved

is finally worthwhile as a physical attacker

STAB physical Crunch is fantastic

[manic kindle]

yeah a lot of hoenn exclusives are really good now

[wispy yarrow]

Luidicolo got giga buffed

Just by learnset alone

[manic kindle]

its one of the first times ive enjoyed using magcargo

anyways! they're really good games, i respect the vision and playing all three games made me appreciate og pokemon experiences a lot

[wispy yarrow]

I really like that they went for an update to the story

It's a small one but I apprecaite it

Aqua and Magma were always kind of the... stupidest?

So having their goals being more understandable at least somewhat

Is very nice for me personally

[manic kindle]

just having the orb colors swapped was a huge win in my books

[wispy yarrow]

lol yeah

[arctic dagger]

What did they change in the story?

I'm not gonna play it

[manic kindle]

slight dialogue changes to make maxie/archie more reasonable in their goals and opposition, rival changes to better explain may/brendan and wally, steven being a more proactive champion of the region

talking to maxie/archie makes it much more apparent what they're trying to do and why, and they're also not super terrorists anymore; magma isnt trying to blow up their volcano, for example

[deft path]

my motivations don't need explaining

[manic kindle]

your maytivations

i think the best parts of the Legacy games are that, if you know someone who entirely missed gens 1-3 or want to replay them but not deal with a complicated romhack or some base game roughness, they're perfect

[sudden spade]

Aww but blowing up volcanos is fun.

[manic kindle]

it is but it doesnt make much sense for team "we're trying to help people by making more land for population growth" to go "fuck this whole ass volcano and the people around it"

[wispy yarrow]

Yeah, Magma wants to summon Groudon under the belief(in which they are wrong) that Groudon will create more land for humans to farm. While Team Aqua wants them to NOT do that, and wants to summon Kyogre to make sure there's enough ocean for the Pokemon.

Neither fully understands what they're going to unleash

[manic kindle]

it also seemed like aqua didnt want to even summon kyogre until maxie went and summoned groudon

[wispy yarrow]

Yeah, Magma's kinda the biggest of the instigators

(Just like the bay incident they're a reference to)

[sudden spade]

I'll admit, map design makes me kinda on Magma's side.

Hoenn could do with less water routes.

[azure crane]

7.8/10

[red rampart]

Unironically yes

Unrelated
https://x.com/quikyu_art/status/1874679672975585376

quikyu (@quikyu_art) on X

The Fearsome Snake of Kitakami (though... maybe it looks more like a slug)
#pokemon

Twitter · Jan 2, 2025, 4:50 AM

[eager vine]

i maintain that this is blasphemous

[sudden spade]

I will blaspheme all I want, I shoved god in a pokeball!

[snow cobalt]

it's so funny that gen 3 introduced weather mechanics and then the whole storyline is about weather

[pliant violet]

that's ludonarrative

[deft path]

I guarantee you that the ending is just to show off the weather

[snow cobalt]

yeah lol

[soft isle]

I pulled a very pretty card at a local event tonight.

[snow cobalt]

ooooooh

[azure crane]

https://vxtwitter.com/ayyk92/status/1874801369854693464

[red rampart]

Deerling!!!!

[wispy yarrow]

I may not like Pokemon much as a game

[red rampart]

I love deerling, I really need to use it in a playthrough one of these days 😌

[wispy yarrow]

but the art goes hard often

[arctic dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/s/3GU7vk14RY

[arctic dagger]

Today I learned pokemon scarlet is a faster speed run game, despite not including a bunch of the glitches that violet does for area skipping, AND worse matchups in multiple places, because the lag from Miraidon's wheels slows the game down so much.

So just the moving around is too much slower for any other advantages violet has to be worth it

XD

I wonder if the switch2 will change it

[red rampart]

…he causes lag?

I never noticed

[manic kindle]

probably lag related to some of the glitches

games tend not to like those

that is to say lag from miraidons wheel animations while performing said glitches

[arctic dagger]

Oh no

It's literally just travel lag

Like just moving normally around the map

[sullen mesa]

that is silly

[deft path]

it's because miraidon has thrusters that produce more particle effects

[manic kindle]

once again a win for past bros

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-pokemon-scarlet-koraidon-sleep-gif-27322462

[arctic dagger]

Dashing speed, miraidon is uh.... 6% slower

Just from lag

Only about 1% slower without dashing

So I'm betting it's the little jet trails and increased dust cloud miraidon makes when dashing, as where koraidon just makes a tiny puft of dust when their feet hit the ground, miraidon is spewing dust up constantly as a big cloud

[manic kindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1875313333156638934

[vague tide]

something a friend drew for me back when swsh came out

[red rampart]

Awwww

[red rampart]

[snow cobalt]

cuuuute

[eager vine]

oopy-goopy is geeta's pet name for rika

[azure crane]

https://fixupx.com/yuuji7604/status/1861400156379423027

[red rampart]

No umbreon but @glacial ore

[obtuse ravine]

the YAWN

[pliant violet]

that word was not new

remember that was a thing you could do?

using chatot's signature move

[red rampart]

That was the one where you could record yourself for it right?

[pliant violet]

yep

and the volume determined it's base power

[languid lichen]

yeah, and there were no like

word recognition censors

so optimal chatot usage was screaming fuck at the top of your lungs

[pliant violet]

just like real life

[near flower]

that's why the move was banned in g4 right?

[umbral hound]

Yup! Leaving Chatot with nothing.

[near flower]

even with chatter its not like chatot has anything really

these sure are the stats of a single stage pokemon

[umbral hound]

Yeah...

[trail bridge]

😔

tbf Dondozo is a single stage mon

but its competitively viable

the poor parrot isn't

powercreep, amirite?

[deft path]

dondozo to be fair is a late game pseudo legendary with a designated support Pokémon meant specifically for doubles battling

Dondozo is mostly competitively viable cause it works as two Pokémon

[arctic dagger]

Nah it's super strong in singles too

Unaware just great

[arctic dagger]

I mean you can go back to Snorlax in Gen 1 being one of the best Pokemon in the game for multiple gens

It's less power creep and more just that it was never good in the first place

[azure crane]

Yep. Chatot was never viable.

[manic kindle]

hyper voice birdie is always fun

[azure crane]

Eh, Swellow has higher defenses, better speed, and Boomburst, which more than makes up for its slightly lower SA.

It also has Scrappy.

[arctic dagger]

If you're using swellow and not guts I'm kinda concerned

[azure crane]

There are better Guts sweepers. Swellow doesn't have the defenses to suffer burn or poison.

[arctic dagger]

There are better boomburst users too

[azure crane]

And Swellow didn't get into either gen 8 or 9.

[manic kindle]

im just using whatever in game unless this is just a smogon/vgc discussion

the only thing really doing Chatot a disservice in his home game is that he comes right before the Elec gym leader unless you do the in-game trade

platinum improves this thankfully but its one of those pokemon done a lil dirty by location in debut

from nuzlocking i do remember theres a chatot available before ramos in kalos, which is a fairly solid location

[red rampart]

Pokemon challenge run idea: you have nothing but six chatots with chatter (and hacked in odor sleuth) and you can’t use a swear for the recording

[azure crane]

"Somebody Once Told Me" "The World Was Gonna Roll Me" etc.

[soft isle]

For the TCG players here, do any of you have a recommendation for what I could run in Ancient Box instead of PokeGear 3.0?

[red rampart]

https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2025-is-the-year-of-eevee-at-the-pokemon-center

[snow cobalt]

WOOOOOOOOO

[red rampart]

@glacial ore

[soft isle]

Way ahead of you! I got the umbreon plushy before it sold out.

It actually arrived today!

[red rampart]

Yay!

[red rampart]

Reminds me, I need to get an ogerpon plush

[eager vine]

poor leafeon and espeon. their corners are so small

[foggy mango]

Currently backing up my Switch's SD card onto my computer while I replace its battery, which means I get to share this screenshot of me winning a competitive match with a 1 HP Archaludon (I was playing like a clown).

[pliant violet]

Dragapult always deserves the win

[foggy mango]

Stop reminding me I'm bad at competitive

[azure crane]

Tera Grass Archaludon?

[foggy mango]

Yeah, for defense (busy, so I can’t reply rn)

[azure crane]

I would have thought Flying, to turn its weaknesses into a resistance and an immunity.

[umbral hound]

Grass gives Spore immunity, I guess?

[foggy mango]

And also Rage Powder

[languid lichen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/zjk9wi/something_about_chienpao_looks_a_little_off_oc/

[pliant violet]

skidoosh

[soft isle]

The new TCG set Journey Together was formally announced and pre-orders went up on the Pokemon Center website, though the site has been having problems and the ETB is probably out of stock by now.

We managed to snag the ETB at least. It has N and his Zoroark on it, so we're happy since Zoroark's one of our favorites and N's tied for our favorite rival/antagonist.

[soft isle]

https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2025-pokemon-tcg-standard-format-rotation-announcement Rotation is happening April 11 for in person events and March 27 in TCG Live.

[manic kindle]

https://x.com/k_3nt4/status/1877305292238565512?t=sIbsn9--QmFKfPpyP0Ad2w&s=19

k3nt4 (@k_3nt4) on X

#ポケモンイラスト

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

[soft isle]

Oh my gods the promo card coming with the Journey Together ETB is so cute!

[pliant violet]

Drip tbh

[crude moon]

bwuh

Spiritomb doesn't give me joy, but still

[pliant violet]

glad to know other people than me still load up pokerogue on occassion

[sullen mesa]

we got another roguelike??

hell yeah

[pliant violet]

oh this is the best one

[sullen mesa]

i've only played emerald rogue

[sullen mesa]

shiny!!

[pliant violet]

shinies good, they get more candy

also give you higher luck, which means better options at end of fight

[sullen mesa]

oh sweet!

[pliant violet]

there's also custom shinies that're worth more luck

[sullen mesa]

ooh i'll have to take a look

oh yeah i like these shinies, they're not all red/black or other common palettes

nonetheless, shadow lugia my beloved

[manic kindle]

I prefer Emerald Rogue as my poke roguelike of choice

[jovial rampart]

Been trying to do the monotype challenges in Pokerogue and they've been kicking my butt.

[sullen mesa]

it is a difficult game

[manic kindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/yadon_no_osewa/status/1877558815849349322?t=iOztLy7bGKohig7aXYDoug&s=19

[red rampart]

https://bsky.app/profile/takeshan.bsky.social/post/3lfgyml2erk2o

たけしゃん🎨 Illustrator✏️ (@takeshan.bsky.social)

アーマーガア逃げてーー！！

#ポケモン #ポケモンイラスト
#Pokemon #デカヌチャン
#Illustrator #イラスト
#イラストレーター #有償依頼受付中
#ハンマー二刀流はロマン

Bluesky · Jan 11, 2025, 5:40 AM

[pliant violet]

two hammers!?!

[azure crane]

https://www.tumblr.com/ukelele-pichu/46170661899

[languid lichen]

mismeowgius...

[azure crane]

https://fixupx.com/tontaro_/status/1877853993965342979

[red rampart]

https://x.com/ST4RLEX/status/1877919890817867937

silent girl protagonist enjoyer (@ST4RLEX) on X

i thought it fit her

Twitter · Jan 11, 2025, 3:26 AM

[foggy mango]

Girl same

[wild thorn]

[manic kindle]

@pliant violet

[pliant violet]

bad news boss

[red rampart]

https://fixupx.com/quikyu_art/status/1878537814804951110

[languid lichen]

https://stupidpenisx.com/chikidoodlez/status/1878580366740693465

[arctic dagger]

That's so funny wtf

[arctic dagger]

Wow, a sheer force Feraligatr hit rank4 OU ladder for singles scarvi

[near flower]

GATORSWEEP

[languid lichen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1024173993294573588/1328077522105274400/cachedVideo.mp4

[peak island]

Hacked my 3DS and nabbed a ROM for SoulSilver on it last week

I love this game to death

[red rampart]

https://x.com/nellchertulip/status/1879043574836428832

nellcher🌷 @ loving sycamore hours💕 (@nellchertulip) on X

It’s cold so here’s Fidough next to a gas heater

Twitter · Jan 14, 2025, 5:51 AM

[obtuse ravine]

baked

[deft path]

he will become a dachsbun

[languid lichen]

https://stupidpenisx.com/pikatl/status/1879627227870200037

[peak island]

Yes, I have one in SoulSilver and I love him

And I think in PMD2 their flame spots are usually dormant

[obtuse ravine]

🥺

[peak island]

Bapy

[languid lichen]

lol

a screenshot shared on another server

too many types is very silly

[arctic dagger]

It vaguely bothers me it's not a Space Gender Fairy

But a Space Fairy Gender

[wispy yarrow]

what is gender weak to

[arctic dagger]

Poison/fairy/bad/silly/stinky/gender/right/left/ugly, resists friend/sus/furry/gamer/deez nuts/boomer/smash, immune to vibe,

[obtuse ravine]

[arctic dagger]

It has uh.... 62 types?

[obtuse ravine]

i can barely keep track of 10

i'm happy that unbound and sword have the effective markers

on one hand it's great to remember a type matchup, but sometimes it would just be frustrating for the info to slip out of my head between sessions

[manic kindle]

yeah having type info within the battle ui is a great QoL

one of the things i loved as a kid in Firered/Leafgreen was a type chart in-battle you could access

[trail bridge]

soooo to everyone playing comp

how is Regulation H treating y'all?

[deft path]

It literally just ended lol were back to reg G now

I'm gonna miss reg H a lot tho

It allowed for much more team building variety

By just ended I mean it literally just finished a few weeks ago

[trail bridge]

NAURRRRRE

THEY'RE BACK

The fucking FISH

[soft isle]

It's Prismatic Evolutions day!

[manic kindle]

good luck getting some!

[obtuse ravine]

was regulation H the legendary ban?

[manic kindle]

pretty much yeah

[obtuse ravine]

ooh, gotcha

my friend was telling me about it when we were hiking around, sounded really interesting because it was a scramble to build completely new teams

[foggy mango]

I think they should be announcing Regulation I soon

What Reg I actually entails, I’m not sure. I just know that it’s probably not related to the Regis or our beloved mod Reggie

[deft path]

reg g ends in april

so itll be after that

[peak island]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/2680000/2680388_mega-kot_confused.gif?f1660433986

[manic kindle]

thank you low polygon umbreon

[peak island]

https://art.ngfiles.com/images/6269000/6269854_1492386_mega-kot_untitled-6269854.44ad974dcdf0a1727257135c15ca49be.gif?f1733710697

[soft isle]

We have a preorder for the ETB we're picking up tonight.

murdoc (he/him) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) good luck getting some!

[pliant violet]

I never end

[azure crane]

https://x.com/ShirotaniArt/status/1880369686157893639

shiro @MAG-C Erfurt 2-714 (@ShirotaniArt) on X

Oh my god, Mouse Joycons! Please don't drop it...

X · Jan 17, 2025, 9:40 PM

[obtuse ravine]

[manic kindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/sunniettv/status/1880658168369558009?t=G58B7BbNSSE6qfZCzvhP4A&s=19

Telepathy Boomburst Noivern into Tera Ghost Pixilate Copycat Sylveon is HOT

[sudden spade]

Telepathy Boomburst is always fun.

[red rampart]

That triggers the throat spray too right?

[manic kindle]

yep!

and tera ghost protects sylv from noiverns boomburst

[spare wing]

Hey all, I've posted on some game sale groups for this but not got any interest yet, I'm looking to sell my copies of Leaf Green, Platinum, Heartgold and Explorers of Sky.

If anyones interested let me know

[manic kindle]

does this include og boxes / art / booklets?

[languid lichen]

i'm going to shit this hawlucha's pants

[manic kindle]

he's just that good

[azure crane]

https://www.tumblr.com/catcowboy/190704859833

[spare wing]

Boxes but not booklets, no box for leaf green

[near flower]

how much?

[spare wing]

I was thinking about £70 each? From what I can tell that's a bit below the price online elsewhere

[near flower]

i get my paycheck in a week and i have been itching to replay hgss

mark me down as interested

[spare wing]

But if you think that's too steep let me know

Okays, well message me if you want and we can try work something out

[near flower]

righto

[languid lichen]

it hurts me deeply to see someone parting with explorers of sky

one of my favorite games ever...

[spare wing]

Same here

Easily top 5

If it helps, I'm holding onto Time

But moving home is expensive, so I gotta sell some stuff

There's always emulation

[manic kindle]

https://youtu.be/mH_Zl2Rgl5M?si=KjzNRfXecKLeQSLx

[spare wing]

Pretty sure blue rescue team was the first game to make me cry

But this is the sad song from sky for me:
https://youtu.be/WKLBhjeN27o?si=n8lAx67kNL4VdCDp

[peak island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515674509613989913/1135590520622682142/16908162703946048775865186820116.gif

PMD2 mentioned 0⁰0

[karmic imp]

What kinda gym leader would you all be?

[manic kindle]

Water

[deft path]

Poison or steel

i think more interesting is what would your team be

[karmic imp]

And what would yours be?

[arctic dagger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15AZW1QGyUeH3MqsupQk63VG2ZiXqW7LP50_cfbDCcng/edit?usp=drivesdk

I made an excel sheet for this

[foggy mango]

Ghost

Also I feel like Murdoc’s partner would be Psyduck/Golduck

Call it a hunch or an inspired guess

[deft path]

im running glimmora/clodsire/salazzle/roserade/alolan muk/amped toxitricity for the poison team

[manic kindle]

I am an early gym leader with a psyduck, a slowpoke, and marill

[deft path]

for the steel gym im running mawile and tinkaton for sure

it's a doubles gym

[manic kindle]

tinkaton with a hammer labeled YURI

[arctic dagger]

I generally think I'd use my Ice team though if I had to pick single type

[manic kindle]

i just wanna chill w/ my little guys

[arctic dagger]

For modern teams I'd use the Snow team, with Tera ice something instead of revravroom

But not sure what

[deft path]

tinkaton/mawile/skarmory/corviknight

yuri + yaoi team

[languid lichen]

ice or ghost, probably ghost

[foggy mango]

My team would probably be Sableye/Jellicent/Dhelmise/Aegislash/Runerigus/Skeledirge

[arctic dagger]

Alolan Ninetails continues to be my favorite overall Pokemon

[languid lichen]

i know a one-badge team and an eight-badge team

[arctic dagger]

Which means I'm doing ice or fairy and I think I prefer ice

Although fairy would obviously be better

[languid lichen]

one-badge would be a honedge and a hisuian zorua

well, honedge or misdreavus

[red rampart]

Probably fairy, it’s my favorite type even if my favorite pokemon isn’t one

[languid lichen]

what's your favorite mon

[red rampart]

Ogerpon

[languid lichen]

little buddy

[red rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-happy-jumping-for-joy-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-17171537816522377823

[red rampart]

Wait, if I went with rock type I could use gigalith and ogerpon 🤔

[languid lichen]

surprise gigalith enjoyer

damn

[red rampart]

Yeah gigalith is great

So glad it got sandstream

[arctic dagger]

I like gigalith

[languid lichen]

it makes me happy

[foggy mango]

Ah, a fellow Gigalith enjoyer

[languid lichen]

made it a real mon

instead of just the most useless sturdybrick around

[arctic dagger]

I really want a ghost rock gigalith

[red rampart]

I also like klawf even if it’s bad, helps I got a shiny one on my first playthrough 😌

[languid lichen]

klawf has all the tools to be not bad

except stats

[arctic dagger]

I had a fakemon concept that was ghost/rock gigalith based on monoliths

[languid lichen]

we need a klawf evo that's just two klawfs stacked on each other

the crab bucket

[red rampart]

Also hisuian arcanine is adorable

[arctic dagger]

It would be rock dark

Needs to be 3 klawf though

3 is always the correct number for plural Pokemon

[red rampart]

Anger shell is just so good

[languid lichen]

it's cracked

[foggy mango]

Anyways, I’d also probably be either a doubles electric or a bug gym leader

Doubles Electric team: Galvantula/Rotom (Heat/Wash/Mow based on whichever is strong against the player’s starter)/Electivire/Eelektross
Bug team: Golisopod/Accelgor/Centiskorch/Heracross/Shuckle/Escavalier

Ahhh I forgot my boi Centiskorch

[languid lichen]

tbf gym leaders usually don't have 6 anyway, so

[foggy mango]

I do. I’m built different lol

[languid lichen]

ahh, need the extra mon to compensate for bad game ai

we are of a kind

[foggy mango]

If I had to whittle it down for each team, it would probably be
Ghost: Sableye/Runerigu/Skeledirge
Bug: Heracross/Centiskorch/Escavalier

[near flower]

water gym leader with feraligatr ace

[languid lichen]

this is known

[near flower]

i am predictable man

[languid lichen]

what's the rest of the team

all i know is gators

would you be a gator gym leader and slam sandile or true water

[peak island]

Dark or Bug

[soft isle]

absolutely dark type

[peak island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1036672275941961840/1132727797748617286/3297794_mega-kot_he-dance.gif?width=375&height=375

[soft isle]

[peak island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1043587233648758866/1131121627644559360/2484996_mega-kot_crazy.gif

I kinda had a funny idea of shoehorning in Porygon2 or Z with conversion

Specifically Porygon-Z in a Bug gym for a pun

I'd probably have Scolipede, Forretress, Shuckle, Masquerain and Vikavolt along with Conversion Bug Porygon-Z

[manic kindle]

signal beam porygon z is a funny guy

[peak island]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-go-porygon-z-gif-15023322

Actually, maybe swap Masquerain with Araquanid

[eager vine]

i think grass maybe, or fairy. i'm very whimsical with it

but if i got to pick it'd be steel or maybe dark

[obtuse ravine]

that's a hard question 😩

ofc i love cyndaquil but i'm not sure if i'd like to be in a fire gym

I handle heat badly

[manic kindle]

Just a cynda mascot

[obtuse ravine]

ofc the solution is to fake everyone out, I appear on tv with my cyndaquil, everyone knows me as the gym leader with a signature cyndaquil, then they pop into the gym and i'm a flying gym leader or something

[arctic dagger]

Cyndaquil is for life, not for fighting

[obtuse ravine]

so true

[manic kindle]

Jetpack Cyndaquil

[obtuse ravine]

soooooo true

[peak island]

Ghost gym with Hisuian Typhlosion

[obtuse ravine]

👀

maybe an early-game ice-type gym? I'm not very good at pokemon, and I like the cold, maybe put it in a hockey rink or something

swinub, spheal, amaura and froslass are lil goobers, and cyndaquil to keep me warm 😊

[foggy mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-tummy-slap-belly-slap-pokemon-gif-3721550777642990712

[languid lichen]

hisuian ghost gym gang

[near flower]

i will 100% cheat and have sandile and fuecoco to gatormax

[languid lichen]

real as fuck

that reminds me of this chart

the actual sprite edits are not to my taste, but the idea is fun

[near flower]

oh this is cool!

[snow cobalt]

protodile.....

[deft path]

Garkle

[arctic dagger]

Marshdile I like a lot

Probably a water/dark

I don't agree Gible should be involved though, those are clearly shark-evolved not croc

[languid lichen]

it's so similar to fuecoco visually that i'm fine saying "land shark" is a gator relation

[near flower]

and he loves to bite dudes, which is the gator special

[languid lichen]

that actually reminds me, i dont think i've ever shared my goober plushies here

and the rest of the gang

[peak island]

Bapies

[languid lichen]

i also have one of those gacha terrarium shinx

had the opportunity to go to tokyo a couple years ago, and they had the terrarium series in a big nintendo store

so I bought one and rolled exactly the dingus i wanted

shinx my beloved

[peak island]

I really want plushies of my favorites

Umbreon and Scolipede

Would like one of Porygon-Z too, but I doubt they have one

Oh, nevermind, they do

[peak island]

Caught a Pineco in SoulSilver which is really nice

[manic kindle]

A little explodey guy

[peak island]

Ye

I named her "N U T T E"

[fickle thicket]

https://fxtwitter.com/ssbultmk/status/1881412949644124398

[iron lake]

they're right

it is freaking hilarious

[obtuse ravine]

what are those glasses

[sudden spade]

Choice Specs

They limit you to a single move, the first one you pick when you enter.

Hence repeating

They get use both for people who want the Special Attack and only intend to click a single move most of the time (See: Draco Meteor Spammers, especially before Fairy existed).

And as a safe choice to Fuck Over Other Pokemon with trick.

As putting them on a physical attacker or even a support pokemon will give a bonus that generally won't matter and lock their actions.

[obtuse ravine]

ohh

[obtuse ravine]

OH

i just looked up what trick did

now i see the funny side

that is a devious combo tho

[sudden spade]

It's a fun one for ruining the day of...honestly, a lot of pokemon. As coverage is important, especially if your main attacking type has an Immunity.

[near flower]

have fun uselessly dragon dancing until you switch out nerd

[sudden spade]

Choice Item'd Electric Pokemon tend to just sorta crying due to how prominant ground is as a type.

And yeah, setup pokemon are just fucked

[manic kindle]

its necessary to help prevent setup, stall, and support pokemon from becoming overcentralizing

[peak island]

Also Lightningrod

[iron lake]

basically anything not already running choice kinda hates having to run choice
especially if it's like. choice band on a special attacker

[sudden spade]

That and anyone not already running choice was likely running a very important item like Leftovers or Boots

Every Fire and/or Flying Pokemon: "Please don't take my boots, rocks are horrible and I hate them."

[manic kindle]

Feels great to read a Trick and switch in to swap the same choice item around lmao

[fickle thicket]

Scarf swap 💖 bestiesssss

[manic kindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/Freewer30/status/1882886893173670208?t=xio2AsGXDOOvyWw3rax1Sw&s=19

[azure crane]

https://fixupx.com/mikripkm/status/1882644502508360096

One of my friends said Penny evolved an Eevee to a Leafeon because someone told her to touch grass.

[arctic dagger]

That's really funny

[azure crane]

https://vxtwitter.com/oshiruko_s2/status/1884007554004705287

[manic kindle]

https://revilonilmah.tumblr.com/post/745950406100828160/spring-cyndaquil @obtuse ravine

[obtuse ravine]

i've been summoned

oh my gosh

🥺

thank u for sharing

[manic kindle]

hamlin's pokemon art is always nice and i found this in my stumbling <3

[obtuse ravine]

the snow's been hitting hard lately, i yearn for spring and this helps

[obtuse ravine]

ooh i'll take a look at their other works 👀

[manic kindle]

they're my favorite Psyduck artist

[obtuse ravine]

i can see why

https://revilonilmah.tumblr.com/post/772580601132990464/poor-oddish-anyone-else-getting-snow

[obtuse ravine]

full image to save a click

but go check em out

this is good stuff 😌

[manic kindle]

very warm and lovely pokemon content

[pliant violet]

this is a bit like the sugimori style cards

[azure crane]

https://bsky.app/profile/crubbb.bsky.social/post/3lgv6vghguc22

Granchio (@crubbb.bsky.social)

Wooper. #pokemon #art #wooper #fanart

Bluesky · Jan 29, 2025, 2:34 PM

[umbral hound]

:)

[peak island]

Bapy

I got one in SoulSilver too and I love him

[pliant violet]

what's the coolest card game in the pokemon world

||Artic-uno||

[eager vine]

balatro

[spring hedge]

as for card-game-based video games, ||banettero|| reigns supreme

[spring hedge]

great minds think alike

[pliant violet]

I applaud your pun ability hydrate

[trail bridge]

But you know who's a cool cat?
||chien pao||

...none of yall liked that? I guess I got some
|| https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Chilly_Reception_(move) ||

[obtuse ravine]

[azure crane]

https://bsky.app/profile/newo1022.bsky.social/post/3lgydhmll2k25

ネヲ (@newo1022.bsky.social)

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Bluesky · Jan 30, 2025, 8:34 PM

[trail bridge]

i'd argue pressure is a better ability... then again, Satan isn't OU, now is it?

[pliant violet]

pressure is way worse

[red rampart]

Yeah

[arctic dagger]

Pressure better than Intimidate???

No lmao

Pressure is one of the worst abilities in the game

[red rampart]

Pressure is just so bad

[arctic dagger]

It has like, niche usage on some stall pokemon I guess

[pliant violet]

and intimidate is one of the best abilities in the game

[arctic dagger]

Regenerator, Shadow Tag, and Wonder Guard are the only ones I can call off the top of my head for sure better

That aren't like, special one pokemon only abilities

Oh, Magic Bounce

[red rampart]

I’m half surprised there isn’t a special attack version of intimidate yet

But it would probably be miserable so I’m glad there isn’t

[sudden spade]

Pressure was, for a while, a pretty decent choice for stall pokemon but also notably: Very few pokemon that get it are stall pokemon. A lot of them are Big Powerhouses who don't want the other guy lasting long enough for PP to matter.

[arctic dagger]

Yeah

[pliant violet]

there is

[arctic dagger]

There were some Zapdos Roost Stall things once upon a time

[pliant violet]

one of the treasures of ruin has it

[arctic dagger]

IIRC

[red rampart]

Oh I meant not on a legendary

[arctic dagger]

Ting-Lu

Which is I think the worst one?

[red rampart]

Ting- yeah
No the worst one is the snail, ting-lu is pretty good

[pliant violet]

the best one is Chi-yu

we live in fish supremacy

[arctic dagger]

Aw that makes me sad

The snail is my favorite lmao

[red rampart]

Yeah

Poor wo-chien

[pliant violet]

the best is actually the cat I think but I'm a fish supremacist

[red rampart]

This is probably why he looks so grumpy

[arctic dagger]

Yeah Chien-Pao is kinda nuts

Physical attacker with 135 speed and defense-intimidate

Ice-Dark good offense types

[pliant violet]

chi-yu isn't far behind

[red rampart]

The weird thing about chien-pao is that every time I’ve seen it on a stream it does basically nothing

[arctic dagger]

Icicle Crash, Sucker Punch, probably Crunch, and hmmm. Psychic fangs to cover fighting ype maybe?

Hard to resist Sacred Sword tho'

And Swords Dance

[manic kindle]

the best thing about wo-chien is the memes

[round perch]

Isn't Giratina kind of bad?

Or in a weird niche spot?

[manic kindle]

depending on the format, but Giratina has had a lot of uses in Ubers given its typing, bulk, and movepool

in sword/shield it was one of the better Pressure Defoggers

will o wisp access in ubers is also kinda nice

[round perch]

Ah.

[red rampart]

There were wo-chien memes?