I think I take the opportunity since Leafeon is tanky and can set up leech seed with the signature move.
#POKÉMON CENTER
umbral hound
getting swept due to forgetting I had to heal my team in preparation of a boss battle 😔
the other advantage of starting galarian meowth is that you know your rival will have a fire starter and can (theoretically) plan accordingly.
pliant violet
wait really?
umbral hound
I think that if your first pokemon can be weak to a type, the rival will pick it? I think? At least, that's what I've observed.
Anyway: minccino and tandemaus next to each other. I have never caught either. What do?
I have seen minccino before, but never seen tandemaus before, so I'm going for tandemaus.
pliant violet
rival girl is scared of my battling prowess
umbral hound
hey. Hey, rival. Why do you have a turtonator of all pokemon in our second match?
wasn't really that bad but... surprise dragon type
pliant violet
oh yeah she'll always have a dragon type
i uhh
just hatched tapu lele
and torch song chatot
umbral hound
...I... just got a level 19 Nincada. It evolves at 20. I need to figure out what I'm releasing for Shedinja. My only water type, who's behind on levels? I guess? Shedinja seems genuinely useful here, if not against the rival then at least against some random gyms.
languid lichen
oh yeah she'll always have a dragon type
she had three in match 5
fucking deranged-ass dragons too
can't wait to get there again to see what fresh bullshit she throws out
i wonder if the ||shiny rayquaza|| is deterministic
umbral hound
which also means I can't catch anything in this match. That's important to remember.
pliant violet
she always ends up with a pseudo legend too i think
umbral hound
...ninjask has speed boost. I think I might be obligated to do something dumb for the sake of an achievement.
oh, it's a single stat maxed, not 6 total stages.
languid lichen
ah
pliant violet
wasn't taking chances
legend encountered
fuck couldn't catch it
well maybe could but wasn't risking the run on it
umbral hound
I think you really need to use a mon to get friendship up. I have an Espeon, and caught an early Eevee but despite having a similar level, because it's leeched more of that XP it will not evolve into Sylveon. Well, if I get a good stone, I'm using it.
I am immediately offered an Ice Stone. ...do I do it, or hold out?
I think I do it.
wow. ok. Fight 49 was a random trainer, and I didn't notice. I figured I could handle a boss mon. And then Roxanne.
...Perrserker really doesn't fall off.
pliant violet
steel types be like that
umbral hound
Now I have to choose badlands or lake, and I think I need a proper water type sooner rather than later.
umbral hound
I have Glaceon, and am attempting to have a stable core. Also got my first legendary egg.
How do you get Ursaluna in this?
Just... randomly get a peat block from the shop, I guess?
trying to decide if I keep around Ursarang (who is mediocre, but could be great as Ursaluna) or Shedinja (who is... well, Shedinja, so either good or awful) and I think Shedinja goes first by virtue of the fact it's best for catching stuff by standing in front of it while you chuck balls and my team's starting to solidify.
Literal next shop: Peat Block. Okay.
won't have a fire type but this should be okay.
pliant violet
big issue chat
i ran into malva
nevermind crisis averted
literally two encounters later is siebold
ok i understand now
this is my elite four run
umbral hound
just caught a Gyrados! Was gonna replace my Golduck with it as my water type... it knows Bite/Crunch/Scary Face/Tackle.
I... don't think I can replace Golduck.
got a dreadnaw also sans water move... but will get Liquidation soon... ish...
Soooo are Spinda patterns still randomly generated? I hatched a funny one:
...beach/swamp/construction site and I have no clue what works best? I currently have Perrserker, Espeon, and Glaceon pretty locked in, and then Rotom-Mow, Ursaluna, and a Dreadnaw sans water move for the remaining three and they all seem... good? I mostly just don't know what'd be at the beach vs the swamp. But I wouldn't mind beach to try again for a water-type who knows water moves, I guess.
pliant violet
i assume so?
the vibes were right for it
wiped to the rival
i hatched a finizen
that's probably worth building a run around
shiny torkoal
languid lichen
ooh
pliant violet
what wave?
languid lichen
100
pliant violet
ooooh
languid lichen
this run has just been me repeatedly running down the meadow
to try and hunt for better sprigatito stats
so kart's a nice surprise
especially in the wake of zero weed cats :(
ooh, nice epic egg
9 atk ivs sucks though
pliant violet
so i think when you take them as a starter they just have the best ivs of any of the species you've had
languid lichen
yeah, looks like
individual IV records are tracked
oh shit, this is a good zoroark, too
pliant violet
how far'd you get?
pliant violet
my joke chatot only run is going too well
pliant violet
and abilities and natures yeah
and also passives that're basically just another ability
obtuse ravine
ooh cool
shell nest
the sv dlc is a little silly to me
u have three perfectly good friends to go to kitakami with but instead they pick three random trainers youve never met
red rampart
It's pretty odd yeah
red rampart
Why is a feature of this dlc possessing your pokemon
obtuse ravine
umbral hound
I can get dark pulse or dragon pulse on clawitzer and I can't decide which is better. Dragon pulse has higher power, but I don't have any solid dark coverage and I do have an ice-type... but being able to hit dragons in multiple ways will be useful...
I... think? I go Dark Pulse for the flinch chance and hope for another memory mushroom.
soft isleBOT
isn't clawitzer dark type? So STAB applies
red rampart
Pure water I think
umbral hound
Clawitzer is pure water, but the somewhat similar looking crawdaunt is water/dark. And I got another memory mushroom so... I guess I ditch Aqua Jet? Priority is good, but strong coverage is... also very good.
languid lichen
clawitzer's phys attack sucks, so aqua jet probably won't net a ton of kills
got like base 60 or something
go with the coverage
umbral hound
just encountered a garganacl with sturdy and explosion, followed by a gigalith with sturdy and explosion.
languid lichen
yeah, game freak likes making sturdy rock types with explosion
you'll probably see a golem with the same
umbral hound
...vs rival with a fire terra blaziken, but she still switches it out of the way of a psychic-type. Interesting.
3 KOs and I can't afford a revive... this is... not ideal.
floor 100 beat baybee
umbral hound
Soul Dew... is a Rogue teir item that increases the effect of a mon's Nature... apparently. Huh.
arctic dagger
Yeah for every gen
umbral hound
And, despite being rogue tier, I don't think I want it because I don't have anyone with an awesome nature...
languid lichen
And, despite being rogue tier, I don't think I want it because I don't have anyo...
there are items to change (and permanently unlock) different natures
so preemptively taking that one isn't insane
umbral hound
Yeah, but... I don't know if I can get away with "preemptive". Anyway there's apparently an ultra-tier item called Golden Punch that grants 50% of damage dealt as money, and... wow.
I need to remember to juggle the golden punch sometimes
fake out, as well as being free damage, breaks sturdy and that's another reason to use perrserker
who tf is "Grant"
umbral hound
yeah he was rock. Now: desert or mountain? I think I match up better into Rock?
I need to remember that I can reroll
languid lichen
i'm going to fucking shit myself, this daily is horrendous
double leppa berry rest wailord
and my last mon alive is this stupid fucking shedinja whose strongest move is shadow sneak
this has taken six years
south laurel
“The downpour continues.”
obtuse ravine
I'm not making it berry far
red rampart
One of the elite four challenges is... making a very spicy sandwich?
olive kayak
l-lewd??
red rampart
Crispin you can't complain about it not being spicy enough, you're the one that limited my ingredents and kept me from using the spicy herba mystica I have burning a hole in my pocket
How the fuck did his camerupt survive an ivy cud- oh I have wo-chien out
...okay somehow some of my pokemon have gotten the friendship benefits that give you battle advantages, welp guess I have to feed them increasingly bitter herbs until they stop liking me
cerulean dune
...okay somehow some of my pokemon have gotten the friendship benefits that give...
I think that's from affection? (from minigames and stuff instead of walking around)
red rampart
I think I accidentally had one of my main pokemon on my team when I was making a sandwich or something
wispy yarrow
I'm assuming that egg vouchers get you to unlock something later on?
obtuse ravine
you can roll the egg gacha in the menu
manic kindle
yeye, hit esc or w/e it might be for you
red rampart
...okay somehow some of my pokemon have gotten the friendship benefits that give...
Welp time for Crispin attempt number 3 (because I just flat out lost the second attempt)
wispy yarrow
Is there any value to catching Pokemon you already have?
eager vine
fun
red rampart
Welp time for Crispin attempt number 3 (because I just flat out lost the second ...
Won the third attempt but he brought me down to my last pokemon 
pliant violet
Is there any value to catching Pokemon you already have?
in pokerogue?
wispy yarrow
yee
pliant violet
unlock new natures possibly improve ivs unlock new abilities
arctic dagger
Yeah when you're first starting I legitimately recommend just... Catch everything you can basically
XD
I did a bunch of runs when I was starting not even trying to get very far but just prioritizing More Pokeballs and More Catching
pliant violet
some stuff is probably just easier to get as eggs though
manic kindle
you wanna catch repeats for the candies
pliant violet
also true
red rampart
Welp, Lacey challenge thing time
...this is just an excuse for her to gush about cute pokemon isn't it
wat
Welp, battle time
Oh god whimsicott
Primarina 😌
...well that's a wipe
red rampart
And wipe two 😰
Managed to beat her, that was a fun fi- why do I have the option to flirt with her
languid lichen
fezandipiti is fucking cracked as a starter
surprise, surprise, a legend is good
but geez
pliant violet
any legend would be i imagine yeah
languid lichen
it def depends, legend statline or no
but fez starts with double kick (fucks up the first couple biomes), peck -> wing attack (same), and a fairy move whose name i forgot
and gets cross poison at 32
manic kindle
Managed to beat her, that was a fun fi- why do I have the option to flirt with h...
the flirty option gives a fun response, in the sense that she has none of it
languid lichen
so it takes a while to get any STAB but it just eats all of the early enemies alive, and lategame the loyal three have uh
quite well-optimized statlines
even if their movepools are a bit awkward
and mine was out of an egg with the fire LGPE move, so even more coverage
ooh, more fun at 100
pliant violet
run as many shinies as you can to get the good good rewards
pliant violet
nothing to say beyond get clowned on
languid lichen
i've gotten glaceon as my boss wild in ice caves twice
out of like
three ice caves
but zero weed cat
game, i fucking beg you
tito as normal, meowscarada as boss, either way, just give me the IVs
or egg
i've seen plenty of other starters, including out of eggs
red rampart
Welp, Amarys trial time
languid lichen
desire sensor is a bitch
pliant violet
i've mostly got starters out of eggs
red rampart
Welp, Amarys trial time
Aww, a trial based around letting Miraidon fly around 😌
Oh she got his name wrong 😔
languid lichen
as in, opposed to other mons out of eggs or opposed to starters in the wild?
pliant violet
the latter
languid lichen
red rampart
Aww, a trial based around letting Miraidon fly around 😌
Oh she got his name wro...
That felt horrible to control
obtuse ravine
X gym 2 done 
red rampart
Anyway for the crime of getting the one-of-a-kind, never before used paradox mon's name wrong I'm gonna be using miraidon against her 🙂
red rampart
X gym 2 done <:FemmeHeckYeah:688157103608561739>
obtuse ravine
it can jumpppp
red rampart
...oh right I've never used it in battle before so it's very underleveled
Time to kill a bunch of chansey again
pliant violet
just hatched a darkrai
pliant violet
moon blast
languid lichen
oh shit, kartana again
might die to it trying to catch ngl
damn it
probably should've tried savescumming
even with a bunch of rogue balls :(
obtuse ravine
do y'all have some tips for pokerogue 😩 i know my pokemon knowledge in general is kinda lacking as well
pliant violet
do y'all have some tips for pokerogue 😩 i know my pokemon knowledge in general ...
sure what are you struggling with
languid lichen
do y'all have some tips for pokerogue 😩 i know my pokemon knowledge in general ...
am also happy to help, where are you having trouble/what do you need explained?
wispy yarrow
I've been trying to figure out a good general strategy for the early game
so far I've had the most success since I got a Ralts
languid lichen
the eternal truism of mons is just "coverage is king"
bringing a fire and a water to start takes out like
most of the early game after the normals
wispy yarrow
My problem so far is that if I try and get a well-balanced, equally setup team
They're all so low level
languid lichen
imo you only really want to focus on two mons with solid paired coverage
at least in the early game
pliant violet
my best success has been at max a team of four in the endgame
also you can just set up for free and then sweep all of a zone with a single mon
languid lichen
if you get lucky you'll end up with 3-4 exp shares instead of the guaranteed 2
but ignoring that, just going with like
pliant violet
i'm on a good run with four exp
wispy yarrow
My best run I got like
pliant violet
caps at five btw
wispy yarrow
two different EXP charms and two EXP shares
languid lichen
a fire type with good secondary coverage (fennekin, chimchar, or torchic) and a grass or water starter with coverage as well
that gets you through the first twenty or thirty levels of content pretty easily
and prepped for the next bit
pliant violet
i regularly hit level cap by several fights before boss on whole team
obtuse ravine
I've been trying to figure out a good general strategy for the early game
this
is a part of it
pliant violet
eevee once you get adaptability is monstrous early
languid lichen
two different EXP charms and two EXP shares
you get exp charms for every boss
(every 10)
obtuse ravine
then i struggle with keeping my team up to snuff, maybe i should focus more on catching and replacing rather than leveling
languid lichen
+25% for wild bosses, +60% for leaders
and at 8 and 25 you get an extra +60% charm and a 20% exp share
obtuse ravine
my best success has been at max a team of four in the endgame
I see
pliant violet
almost all the rogue tier items are cracked
obtuse ravine
what are the tiers
pliant violet
based on the ball it appears in
languid lichen
normal poke ball is common, great ball is uncommon, ultra ball is rare, purple rogue ball is
probably the top rarity?
pliant violet
pokeball great ball ultra ball rogue ball master ball
pliant violet
i've never seen a master ball
languid lichen
i saw exactly one and used it for the first eternal floette in that run
pliant violet
based
languid lichen
wish i'd gotten one for that second kartana run 
obtuse ravine
i see....
pliant violet
ok just beat one thirty
languid lichen
gl on rival 5
pliant violet
gl on rival 5
i've got dragon and ice coverage luckily
pliant violet
that run was abusing no retreat eevee with simple passive who the baton pass'd to either gyarados infernape or scolipede
actually i think it was a leafeon
languid lichen
oh, i still haven't ground out any candies
pliant violet
i got a bunch for hatching a shiny eevee
languid lichen
my only shiny is still that stupid fucking burmy...
literally indistinguishable from normal burmy & wormadam
languid lichen
my shiny luck has always been dogshit
i mean i've exclusively pulled from it
but yeah my first run i did sprigatito + fennekin + mudkip, because all of those have really good STAB in their learnsets and get good coverage types
and then got dunked on by my lack of info going into the 145 rival fight
(and its dragapult that outsped everything)
pliant violet
this run that's kicking ass started as treeko chimchar poplio
obtuse ravine
oh wait i forgot there are different machines
languid lichen
guess which of these fucks is burmy's shiny
pliant violet
egg move machine is probably the actual best
languid lichen
left or right?
pliant violet
guess which of these fucks is burmy's shiny
one on the right
pliant violet
leaves are different too
obtuse ravine
i guessed right cuz it's blue
pliant violet
strong egg moves can carry the entire early game too
languid lichen
ehhh, leaves are barely different
yh but eggs aren't what i'd consider "early-game" since you need to get somewhere to get em
pliant violet
also candy can level you up over an area's max
languid lichen
this is probably the closest mon i have to perfect
just entirely coincidentally
i got the +HA chance charm, and then i keep getting stacked nymbles
i got the HA chance charm again on that kartana run, but i didn't see a single HA mon :(
(of what i'd caught, at least)
just need to get adamant or jolly on it and it's basically all the way there, though
pliant violet
sometimes the HA are no better sadly
languid lichen
i mean yeah
but i don't really bother looking at things with bad HAs, mostly
because most of the good mons also have strong HAs
pliant violet
also like some pokemon kick ass but are just held up by their level speed
starters are all medium fast
languid lichen
at least to my brainpoisoned smogon brain
sucks that hisuian zorua doesn't get like
infernal parade as an egg move
because it suuuuucks as a starter, unless you luck out with a shadow ball or hyper voice tm
(and that they gave it blood moon instead of boomburst)
but i haven't gotten an egg for it anyway, so the EM point is moot until i do
pliant violet
almost wiped to burgh of all people
i go zorua regular with aura sphere egg move
great early game
languid lichen
both zoruas get aura sphere, yh
but hisuian zorua never learns a special normal move
pliant violet
wait really?
languid lichen
and it takes level 40 to learn a special move at all (shadow ball)
pliant violet
brutal
languid lichen
yeah
it doesn't learn hyper voice or swift naturally
and instead gets both of those and tera blast as TMs
languid lichen
so you're stuck with scratch, shadow sneak, and knock off
until level 40 for shadow ball
really wish they'd given it like
infernal parade and anything more consistent than blood moon
pliant violet
i don't think they made too many changes beyond egg moves in this
languid lichen
boomburst would be the strictly better option ofc, but i'd even take relic song or uproar
pliant violet
oh and how game gimmicks work
languid lichen
nah but i'm talking about the EMs they did give
zoruaH gets blood moon, moonblast, aura sphere, and parting shot
pliant violet
ok going into rival v
pliant violet
ok big dragon down
languid lichen
oh, i'm not sure if battle bond greninja is a base thing or randomly on wild froakie lines
but i've got one with it and it's fucking absurd
because once you trigger battle bond it literally never leaves ash form
pliant violet
had time to swords dance knowing they'd swap out their decidueye right away
pliant violet
wait what
languid lichen
yep
pliant violet
i know megas are permanent too
languid lichen
ash greninja's stats are fucking cranked into the stratosphere, and this just turns it permanent
+110 bst lol
higher numbers than a mega evo
+50 atk/spatk and +10 spe
pliant violet
ash greninja's stats are fucking cranked into the stratosphere, and this just tu...
cause in theory there's a tough condition to get there
but it's just better moxie
rival v down infernape sweep
languid lichen
yeah in normal mons it's a wacky moxie variant that got turned into a regular jacked moxie variant (+1 atk/spatk/spe) in gen 9
nice
pliant violet
knowing little cup mienfoo probably kicks ass as a starter
languid lichen
ehhhhh
kind of, i'd bet?
a lot of what makes mienfoo strong is how bulky evio makes mons + it having the combination of regen-pivoting and koff utility (which is absurdly centralizing in evio metagame) + a reliable 130 bp move
but not having u-turn or STAB early and knock off not being in its native learnset (and not being fully implemented) cuts that down
it doesn't have any STAB EMs and doesn't hit stab until 25, so it's probably kinda middling as a starter
and then broken if you can carry it through, because what it does get is no guard + gunk shot + mountain gale (100bp/85% ice move with flinch) + supercell (electric jump kick clone)
meaning reckless makes it an absurdly consistent death machine with HJK/supercell and two move coverage
full pot mienfoo seems cracked in half though
languid lichen
on the topic of busted garbage, really hoping poison heal gets implemented soon
pliant violet
i've got a gligar ready
got a masterball item
increases effectivness of healing moves and items by ten percent
excluding revives
i have a magnezone with leftovers
only thing i wish this game had was events
back to back shuckle from eggs
pliant violet
with a five egg voucher
languid lichen
oh i got a five-egg from a rogue ball
so i guess those aren't 100% locked per rarity
languid lichen
first wild shiny, damn
pliant violet
ohh a sick one too
languid lichen
terrible overall IVs, but 30 speed and adamant are collectively an excellent base
pliant violet
i love varoom
languid lichen
i hate its name but think the design is fun
pliant violet
doing a run with my max possible luck as an experiment
languid lichen
how much luck do you have?
pliant violet
B+
pliant violet
five ye
languid lichen
is it five normal shinies or do you have one of the customs?
languid lichen
damn, which one?
pliant violet
eevee
languid lichen
oh wow
pliant violet
my monstrous eevee
languid lichen
got really lucky with that, i guess
pliant violet
ye
languid lichen
huh
haven't seen this item yet
don't think it's actually useful on anything i have though, sadly
nevermind, i just got double fucking horn drilled
pog
pliant violet
wait so it turns any switch to baton pass?
languid lichen
i think?
i don't have any useful buffs on any mons, so i haven't checked yet
once varoom gets shift gear (if i live that long), i'll see
pliant violet
a good baton pass mon is v strong
languid lichen
yh but i mostly run unboosted sweepers
pliant violet
i like how easy it is to setup
wispy yarrow
TFW you pick Fennekin and one of your first item rolls is the TM for Psychic
Fennekin, Totodile, and Pikachu is a nice 3-start so far
pliant violet
any 3 starter combo isn't the worst
pliant violet
rival v and vi are the nightmares
wispy yarrow
Does it just generate a team based on what you have yourself
pliant violet
if you can even get to vi past the elite four gauntlet
pliant violet
Does it just generate a team based on what you have yourself
no there's one thing it always has and a couple of categories it fills
wispy yarrow
Mudkip's kinda OP early
Rock Throw for the fliers and Rock Smash for the dark/normal types.
manic kindle
Fuecoco has been my ace starter because Torch Song is nuts with how stat boosts work in pokerogue
wispy yarrow
Fennekin is my other go-to for fire
pliant violet
Fuecoco has been my ace starter because Torch Song is nuts with how stat boosts ...
i have a chatot with egg move torch song
honest cairn
Tbh fuecocos so op I've been purposely not using it 😭
pliant violet
my op pokemon is my no retreat adaptability simple shiny eevee
wispy yarrow
adaptability so good
Oh yeah how do you get eeveelutions
can you like, get stones as items
south laurel
Danke
obtuse ravine
no sale on pokemon at the store i went to, expected but still 
i found a copy of dark souls 3 for ps4 tho
wispy yarrow
I finally beat Rival 2
pliant violet
bless
pliant violet
fuck it fuecoco toxel wimpod run
this got to just past a hundred
pliant violet
hell yeah
wispy yarrow
Eevee, Mudkip, Fuecoco
pliant violet
make sure to spend your gym leader voucher in the escape menu
wispy yarrow
My Eevee became Umbreon and I've kinda been doing just
an Umbreon sweep
Got 3 XP All's so everyone else isn't that far behind
arctic dagger
Wimpod is nuts since its ability isn't implemented
wispy yarrow
I just got my 4th XP all
obtuse ravine
you're ballin
wispy yarrow
Guzzlord at 40 almost ended the run
pliant violet
Wimpod is nuts since its ability isn't implemented
yeah i was thinking that
pliant violet
Guzzlord at 40 almost ended the run
did you catch it?
wispy yarrow
Oh word
It just felt like I weas using Torch Song forever and didn't get the "Skeledirge's Sp. Atk cannot go any higher!" messages
anyways I got to 80 and I'm going to bed now
arctic dagger
The messages for going any higher I don't think show up for anything that raises stats as a secondary effect
pliant violet
they do
languid lichen
huh, is pokerogue down for anybody?
ah, the servers are down
or at least tanking
obtuse ravine
focusing on a couple pokemon is helping a lot
languid lichen
wew
er, rotom
didn't have the map and so i didn't even get to go to the damn meadow this time
but still, solid consolation prize
i love losing because i get flinched seven times in a row off rock slide lmao
red rampart
Drayton trial time!
Thankfully I already knew what his trial was ahead of time so I've got a team ready
Though it's horribly underleveled
...or not because all of these people are using low level pokemon too, nice
languid lichen
dlc fun?
red rampart
Yeh
languid lichen
noice
unrelated, fuck car's starting learnset
christ i need noxious torque
or combat torque actually
smog's probably one of the worst moves in the history of pokemon
and everything early is normal (or the rare dark), so lick's 30 bp dogshit ass can't even touch em
and poison gas is easily the worst of the myriad poison moves
it gets fucking sludge (also special, which sucks because the cars' spatk are less than half of their atk) as its only upgrade until iron head at 29, so it's just
rough to use itself
red rampart
Drayton trial time!
Okay that was easy, as it turns out all of the trainers' teams instantly die to earthquake
languid lichen
yeah eq does that
red rampart
Welp, Drayton time
Okay as it turns out Drayton also thinks earthquake is the best thing ever
Oh god tailwind
obtuse ravine
good run 
red rampart
...okay gonna definitely need to change my team up for this fight
As it turns out, ogerpon isn't terribly useful against a team that resists most of her attacks and hisuian arcanine is pretty bad against a team that has a ton of water/ground types
On an unrelated note, why does iron valiant take until level 91 to learn a physical fairy move
soft isleBOT
is PokeRogue browser only?
arctic dagger
I believe so
soft isleBOT
red rampart
Alright, Drayton attempt #2
...apparently flygon outspeeds choice scarf gardevoir. Okay.
manic kindle
You got thisss
obtuse ravine
pokerogue is surprisingly mobile friendly, except a lil smol on phones
manic kindle
Bully Drayton
red rampart
Well got him down to his last two pokemon but as it turns out two physical attackers aren't the best pokemon to have against an archaludon with stamina
Attempt #3!
soft isleBOT
https://github.com/Admiral-Billy/Pokerogue-App oh rad apparently if you use this frontend it can download the game files and play offline
obtuse ravine
Attempt #3!
soft isleBOT
dunno, haven't tried it
red rampart
...apparently flygon outspeeds choice scarf gardevoir. Okay.
Okay a choice scarf gardevoir with a speed boosting nature outspee- oh god tailwind
He has gotten three leaf storm crits in a row
Down to his archaludon and the rain stopped, so this one is probably in the bag
Turns out tera steel gigaton hammer can take out half of its health
And play rough took out the other half, time for Kieran I guess
obtuse ravine
red rampart
Welp, Kieran battle time
Ooh cutscene 👀
Okay wo-chien was not a good lead
Why does his porygon have hyper beam, that just seems impractical
That is one bulky incineroar
Oh hey a pokemon terastalizing into a type it doesn't already have, that's rare in this game
And ivy cudgel finishes off his hydrapple, lovely
Drayton, kindly fuck off
south laurel
Why does his porygon have *hyper beam*, that just seems impractical
Adaptability STAB high base power off of a good special attack that’s only resisted by like 3/18 types?
red rampart
True, though in this case he used it immediately, which seems odd given the recharge turn
It also missed which is fun
red rampart
Drayton, kindly fuck off
languid lichen
and she's set
languid lichen
man is 100% hater
okay wow, this run's getting quite a few things
still don't have three exp shares, so my leveling is super cursed
but like
everything else is going golden
red rampart
Briar: We're going on an expedition to area zero!
Carmine: You got permission!?
Briar: So anyways what we'll be doing is...
🤔
obtuse ravine
you dare use my own spells against me
languid lichen
damn, this run has seen a lot
no shinies with the charm, but latias, meloetta, mega bracelet as my first item of the run + eventual latiasite
might wipe trying to catch it though
languid lichen
jeez, that's three psychic legends this run
arctic dagger
Did you catch them?
languid lichen
yeah
wiped at 140 to a few things
marlon was rough because my rotom was dead
but i accidentally fatfingered the legend box instead of going to shiny and just
rolled it
fucking christ that run
mothim bad
languid lichen
:(
azure crane
Twitter
obtuse ravine
goes hard
languid lichen
finally hatched, it my boy
snow cobalt
Pokemon Horizons is very consistent with Pokemon it/its pronouns
languid lichen
oh shit finally
it wasn't a caught tito
but fucking
finally
i got a buff to the goober
eager vine
amelia earhart seconds before her untimely death
red rampart
Ah right! I should probably spoiler that
Have a me being surrounded by giant water spiders
languid lichen
so i tabbed into the pokerogue discord and was confused at being muted
and then i realized that standard users had been banned from talking within the last couple hours
and a short backlog revealed that apparently it was because people were being super transphobic in general chat or something
and this was the response i'm seeing
trying to backlog a bit more to figure out what the fuck is going on and whether it's just "the server mods/dev team are conservative shitheads" or if there's anything more to it
but ew
languid lichen
okay, conclusive statement: i have no fucking clue what happened because a bunch of messages were deleted
but that mod seems to have kinda wack vibes
languid lichen
new record achieved
yo, you beat them?
pliant violet
yea
languid lichen
nice
pliant violet
||ye but phase two it eternamaxes and it becomes a double battle||
languid lichen
not sure how much people want to avoid spoilers
pliant violet
||and heals to full||
languid lichen
||ooh, 2vE?||
pliant violet
ye
languid lichen
also lmao -6 mowtom still ohkos these poor quagsires
pliant violet
i was down to one mon at that point though
languid lichen
on my current run
pliant violet
this was with my fuecoco toxel wimpod start
picked up a chestnaught and a gardevoir along the way
languid lichen
nice
seems like the strat is probably going to be ensuring you have a strong ground or psychic
pliant violet
the latter
languid lichen
how many of their mons have boss shields, btw?
still just ||ray|| and the starter, or everything?
languid lichen
damn, first two, pseudo, and ???
pliant violet
this team was relatively underlevelled too at last rival due to not getting good store drops
due to no shiny
languid lichen
why'd you end up going with toxel + wimpod, btw?
did you get good EMs on them or just for the coverage?
languid lichen
i know toxel gets galvanize and torch song for boomburst
there's an endless mode
you unlock it after beating classic
pliant violet
i like them they have good coverage and with emergency exit broken you'd be surprised out strong golisopod is
pliant violet
also punk rock boomburst is just nuts
pliant violet
team does have a very rough early game though
languid lichen
noivern also gets punk rock boomburst
although it doesn't get punk rock aerilate boomburst like toxtricity does galvanize
and tbf i'd rather it have aerilate than punk rock
languid lichen
yeah
pliant violet
haven't unlocked that
languid lichen
they also did excadrill a bit dirty
pliant violet
you're basically solo coco till the others hit thirty then you spike
pliant violet
they also did excadrill a bit dirty
good due you know how many gen v nuzlockes it has ended
languid lichen
good due you know how many gen v nuzlockes it has ended
none, just be built different
pliant violet
some egg moves are normally learned moves just early
my tentacool does have malignant chain
pliant violet
that's also a good water type imo and the poison is nice
languid lichen
and i haven't seen an iron head TM
or a mushroom for rock slide
and this fucking drifblim taunts me
languid lichen
at least i can fissure this nerd gourgeist
oh shit
with fiery dance
new start just dropped
languid lichen
yeah, i've got either modest or timid already
pretty sure it's timid
which is good, because eternal floette shuffles around florges' statline
and has pretty okay speed (if nowhere near current powercreep tier)
at like 93 or 95
oh whoops, 92
also lol, my 140 is allister and he has two cursolas
languid lichen
really? i don't think most of mine have
pliant violet
also the kalos elite four almost everytime
languid lichen
i still haven't pushed past the ~160 mark
kept doing farming runs to try (and fucking fail) to get some sprigatitos
and most of those were pretty poorly situated for anything other than the forest and metro biomes, because i'd stacked for fezandipiti to blaze through them
pliant violet
ahh i refuse to farm i'm just an egg boy
languid lichen
my eggs have mostly been on garbage
pliant violet
get so many fucking eggs who needs to catch anything
languid lichen
and i've gotten exactly burmy out of their shinies
pliant violet
oh big same but they're like.. passive benefit
languid lichen
the other shiny i've seen is that varoom
but god does it desperately need egg moves
languid lichen
Smog is probably within the top 3 worst attacking moves in the game
pliant violet
not shiny
languid lichen
and it gets that and lick
pliant violet
never seen a wild shiny
languid lichen
i had a shiny charm and got that varoom
pliant violet
oh if you get golden punch take it
pliant violet
it turns game simple
languid lichen
pretty okay
turns out getting to reroll your drops super consistently, even with zero luck, is pretty damn good
welp, onto rival 5
she's got a carnivine, and i never found a nasty plot TM for rotom, so the start is kinda rough
and hisuian arcanine
which dicks on this team
truck 2 fuckin strong
just realized i don't think i've ever actually been to the abyss
i just kept ignoring it
pliant violet
i've never had it come up
languid lichen
what's the gym leader at it?
ah
it's through the swamp
swamp -> graveyard -> solo path abyss
languid lichen
oh, i wish i'd get the cafe boys more
getting a free egg voucher and a green charm instead of blue
sign me up
pliant violet
they just annoy me i'd rather get any other leader
if i'm already getting a leader spawn
i want five eggs
languid lichen
i mean fair
but i think they're the ones that spawn in the uhhh
grassland?
also speaking of
rip tera orb, meta progression every time
pliant violet
tera orb seems good but you gotta rely on getting the right tera shard and they only last for ten battles
egg every time
languid lichen
wouldn't know, haven't gotten the orb before
this run i did also get a fucking DNA splicer
...at level 20
when i had nothing but an unevolved burmy, an unevolved varoom, and mowtom
sad to pass up a master ball option but unfortunately it was just dogshit
languid lichen
nice
it's a solid starter
fire + ghost is strong two-move coverage and torch song is busted
pliant violet
rival is hardest battles
eventually she starts to cheat
having pokemon over the level cap
you can do that too though with candy
wispy yarrow
I was gonna say lol
languid lichen
boss mons go over your cap plenty often too
wispy yarrow
languid lichen
boss wilds i mean
wispy yarrow
the crew
pliant violet
i've not noticed that but bosses are the easiest option out of boss rival and gym leader
wispy yarrow
do your stats reset going into boss pokemon
pliant violet
no
wispy yarrow
I know they reset on trainer battle
languid lichen
nope, boss wilds count as standard wilds
pliant violet
only trainers and final boss
the wild pokemon in the last ten are all paradox pokemon
pliant violet
my chimchar has ice punch as an egg move
languid lichen
desperately want to actually fucking see a sprigatito on a run with an HA charm
or get froakies with EMs
unfortunately tito's the only starter among my favorites that actually gets good value here
because it def favors fast sweepers
and torterra ain't one of those :(
maybe i'll get an egg with shell smash
languid lichen
good go
god damn
170 and they've got a real fucking mon
lefties shift gear excadrill at +4 over level cap
and truck the beast clutches by living on 20 hp, flinching it twice, and then sweeping
...wait
what the fuck
different rotom forms can apparently learn each other's native move in this
my mowtom can learn blizzard
pliant violet
I’m thinking about integrating turtwig into my starter setup
To guarantee access to at least decent ground type
languid lichen
i'd do mudkip over it unless you have turtwig EMs
pliant violet
I don’t wanna double up on water types and I wanna keep abusing golisopod
pliant violet
Though the logic tracks yeah
languid lichen
i think the best ground type option if you get EMs for it is swinub
pliant violet
I have a dragon dance play rough chikorita? When did that happen
Still not worth using
pliant violet
i think the best ground type option if you get EMs for it is swinub
Gives ice coverage too yeah that’d be ideal
languid lichen
has ice priority, 120/100% STAB moves in glacial lance and headlong rush, and offers edgequake
pliant violet
Wish cubone was better have multiple egg moves for it
Plus then I could do the Karen speech
languid lichen
maybe if they implement thick club or something
or give it a better passive
instead of moody
(which is busted but in a super volatile and awkward way)
languid lichen
yeah
give it like, speed boost
and the thick club
and it'll actually be able to do something maybe
pliant violet
That’d be fun
olive kayak
whew! Real long run at renegade platinum today. Massive progress! 😄
heading into the hearthome gauntlet, looking really good
pliant violet
Handled Aaron yet?
languid lichen
damn, right at the fuckin end
pliant violet
I wish it also let you identify what ability Pokémon have
languid lichen
same
oh neat
hitting e4 now
honestly a bit surprised i got this far, mothim is absolute dogwater and i've been carting around a pretty mediocre meowstic too
unfort, died to bruno with a reviver seed
pliant violet
Is that your best so far?
pliant violet
Hey good job
near flower
reviver seed? woah is that a mfking POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON REFERENCE
pliant violet
Reviver seeds sadly wipe stat buffs so they’re not perfect run savers
Sometimes they just extend the end
languid lichen
honestly i think the best use case for them is getting a buff turn
pliant violet
You need the other mon to be faster but I see it
languid lichen
i had mothim sweep the fuck out of koga because i had a reviver seed on it
so i just qd'd and psychic nugged everything
pliant violet
And I’ve used it for torch song
languid lichen
yeah
pliant violet
When in doubt torch song
languid lichen
i think it's best on a mid-slow shell smasher like torterra or hisuian samurott
(god i wish we'd gotten hisuian oshawott/cyndaquil/rowlet)
pliant violet
Reviver seed? Yeah
languid lichen
yeah
pliant violet
Or a fast sweeper that doesn’t need setup
languid lichen
yeah, like pult
languid lichen
huh!
good question
oh wait
mega sceptile would be another fantastic one
huge speed, huge spatk, tinted lens as the passive
languid lichen
mine has dragon energy
pliant violet
Jealous
languid lichen
but i don't have good IVs yet
pliant violet
If I’m honest good IVs help but I think moves matter a lot more
pliant violet
Due to how unreliable non level up availability is
languid lichen
for treecko i probably won't touch it until i get 31/31 spatk and speed
or maybe i should just grind out for tinted
pliant violet
Using the Pokémon generates candies
languid lichen
yeah, 's what i mean
friendship candies
should probably farm out for rotom's
since it gets fucking hadron engine
not super useful to it without EMs, what with levitate
but hey, 30% spatk is 30% spatk
pliant violet
You get a few from catching them or hatching them, even more if they’re shiny
Custom shiny eevee gave me like 20?
pliant violet
Yeah
languid lichen
Custom shiny eevee gave me like 20?
yeah, shinies by tier are 5x/10x/20x
bosses are 2x
and hatching is base 2, catching is base 1
pliant violet
I didn’t know there were tiers of shiny
languid lichen
base game shinies are yellow
pliant violet
I’m mostly playing blind
languid lichen
a small few mons have those custom shinies
which are indicated by red and blue, i think?
pokemon is like, my one Spreadsheet Autism game, so i play every single mons and mons-adjacent game as a wiki game
the franchise has been a hyperfixation for my whole life lmao
languid lichen
fair
pliant violet
The Karen speech really resonates with me
Hence the silly starter combo I’ve been using
languid lichen
karen speech?
pliant violet
Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what's important. Go on--the Champion is waiting
languid lichen
oh
pliant violet
Karen of johto elite four says this when she loses
pliant violet
Oh no
languid lichen
hmmm
just started a new run, trying to bum rush varoom or pancham for better stats
and i'm thinking about eternal floette
i wonder if the new Legends game actually releases it
that would be sick
pliant violet
Should do
languid lichen
it will if they're ever bringing it in
but i'm not certain that they're willing to actually add it after...six? eight? years
nine years, christ
no wait
11
near flower
no please dont say that
it cant have been 11 years since x and y that cant be true
languid lichen
2013 baby
near flower
(turns into a fine mist and evaporates away)
languid lichen
yeah the pokerogue server and its moderation staff are a cesspool
pliant violet
Is that an official server?
languid lichen
yeah
pliant violet
Cause I don’t want to drop the game but if they’re shitters they’re shitters and I’m better off without it
Welp ok
languid lichen
"sam" is apparently the head dev, who just stepped down to go be a Full-Time Christian
pliant violet
Ah well fuck
languid lichen
maybe i've just tabbed in at like
two bad points where shitters are posting gross takes
pliant violet
Nah that’s a bad vibe
If they’re telling people to not talk about trans people cause some people don’t like them they can get fucked
languid lichen
because reading a bit more it seems like the staff are at least trying to crack down on Gamer Bullshit
albeit in a very "please just don't talk about anything at all except pokemon" milquetoast way
that was just a random user, and other than this weird post from the no-longer-lead-dev idk
pliant violet
Thank you for investigating topple
languid lichen
i'm gonna lurk a bit more, see if my first impression wasn't fully accurate
pliant violet
Your lurking is appreciated
languid lichen
it's like
pliant violet
I don’t wanna be signal boosting something shitty when there’s so much Pokémon stuff made by not awful people
languid lichen
two of the artists are apparently trans, one of the mods is kind of a shitter, but it might be a collective weird time
prompted by "the project lead made a Weirdly Christian post and the server is unequipped for gamer bloat"
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT99WnSImDcDQITp1U02ZjKjWjIXVqkpYB3yHxKnU0oGMoSjMt6hgGnyuU7ba_uUAv1jmDO27pzIuKJ/pub ah, here's part of what apparently started the whole thing
the screenshotted user is banned and the lead dev sam stepped down entirely
pliant violet
I’m at work so can I get a tldr?
languid lichen
uhh screenshots of the creator/head dev being very straightforwardly anti-trans in a bizarre combination of "but the science" and "my christian values"
and then another user hurling slurs
but neither of those people are on the server anymore, so it's one step back -> one dubious step forward
wispy yarrow
I'm pretty forgiving of "Just keep the topics focused on Pokemon in the Pokemon server"
pliant violet
Ah