#Battletech/Mech Warrior
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but now I'm a complete monster at this thing
being hyper aggressive with the snub and masc and just running in circle whenever possible is actually good stratergy with this thing
it's like a shadowcat that can actually take hits
But also lankier, more obvious, and no ECM?
yeah
You trade subtlety for menace
no ecm makes it risky in being exposed against missile
but I have so much speed I can run to cover if needed
and yes, that
I'm a complete menace with this thing
if the fight is in 250 meters and I have cover, I can make anything dead quickly
and vulcan has been maxed out, 25 medium mech, all finished
is it erm, possible to have weight this lopsized?
I'm currently in a match where I'm the only light and the rest of my team is heavy and assault
I'm also dead, because the entire team thing hiding behind the only light is a good idea, somehow we are winning
or maybe I just watched the list wrong
the enemy team has at least 3 lights, so we should have a few lights or mediums too, unless the matchmaker is just broken
also, really starting to get very good at ppc, I'm just nailing shots left and right, this is nice
oh who needs mobility in a light
somehow got 2 kills while moving at like 40 kph
katana kax with quad lppc is surprisingly very funny
okay, starting to learn how to use the locust, and starting to learn how teammate dependent it is
which well, means that the worse my teammates, the less I can do anything
there's really only so much you can do as a 20 tonners, unless you are playing as Piranha that can one shot people at the right places
even then you still needs someone to distract your target
I think I have finally skilled up my locust enough for the small x pulse to work extremely well
5 medium laser just doesn't provide enough damage, 5 small pulse is good but also don't push locust's cooling enough
With 5 small x pulse, I can pump 15 damage per second for a very long time
Which means if someone is distracted for even a short while, I can pump a lot of pinpoint damage quickly
X pulse also shares same heat ratio as pulse, but they benefits more at close range despite their long range because it's harder to aim at a specific body part at long range
Though I think I might switch out more pulse on other build for x pulse, the higher dps can be very good in some scenarios
Oh
And x pulse gives less chance for other people to yoink your kill
That's a plus
On ther other side, I think I will give my flea a bunch more er small, if the point of all the small laser is to have a big alpha, then having that alpha from longer distance is probably safer
Maybe I will change it again, but the Flea as it is right now with 3 small pulse and 4 small is just too risky to use
niceeeee
also, I remember Cauldron is a thing and apparently there's some hints on what might changes in the next patches, and it's pretty big
looks like a lot of good balance changes are coming, I always like some big paradigm shift patches
ermmm wait what
HAG is getting hotter and has more cooldown, but the spread is getting removed???
more ammo for ballistic weapons in general
and binary laser no longer benefits from large laser quirk, though I don't think this affects any of my builds at all
Orion might be getting a truly absurd armor quirk
like 'make charger looks fragile' absurd
oh hell yeah
okay I'm real fucking tired of team that just won't do shit, fucking useless dumbass
trying to level up this flea is a pain if nobody want to move bloody anywhere
flanking is useless if nobody's gonna commit to shit
7 ER small flea that's supposed to be good at support with beagle for spotting
except it's useless if the team is too damn stupid to listen to any tips you give them
'lone enemy at center' nobody moves
yeahhhh
'enemy flanking, push up and murder those in front' nobody moves
'BEHIND' nobody moves
I could give them buffet and they won't eat it
i know your pain. i really like playing supporty intel type shit too
hard to get ppl to cooperate s'why @lilac shadow and i usually work together
there's this one time in River City a thanatos just walks in unopposed and I'm yelling at the team of this free dumbass buffet
I got half mauled before they listened
I also killed two enemies while being legged and moving at 40 kph in a Panther
in the same match
Unfortunately pub comms are for yelling slurs
a lot of players don't seem to know that you can just select quick command to say things
or look at the minimap
or target things
Should hook up with a clan if you want coordination sadly
or that weapons have range limit
I used to play with KONG back in the day
We probably have enough people to set up something here
might be a good idea
doctorgame made a PNET...guild???? idk what to call it in this game
I think it's called clan in MWO
it's only me and him in it rn tho
if anyone wants to add me to friends on mwo my name is Temerity
i am usually available to play most nights and even during the day sometimes too. my work is very flexible
i think it would be fun if we could get a lance goin one of these nights :3
okay!
unit iirc
I'm around rn incidentally
Yessss, I made a unit and Temerity should be able to invite?! everyone should be able to who is in the unit has full permissions for everything
I might be around a bit later?
god I love when I'm being circled by a light and the lights on my team who are easily within MG range run away from me
it's very hmmm
grimmechs says brawl
that sounds cool
interesting
i looooove the way they look
i'm so in love with shadowhawk
also, I know how you feel, Lollerism, just had an Urbie bailing out on me after I rescued him from a bunch of light and medium
I also won those fights solo, in an Osiris
bloody piece of shit
in fact when I trying to run from those I can't kill, my teammates continued to reverse from me
it was like 2 guys, and there's 4 of us
becasue I just killed the other 2
I do wish Osiris is just slightly more tougher though
the legs are... oddly easy to hit despite being sticks
I seem to be incredibly lucky with my matches it seems
sometimes you get a streak of luck, sometimes you get a streak of utter bad luck
Like,
People using enemy spotted and comms and override checks at the start of the match and I'm like ???
such is the fate of joining pub
Have I left tier 4 question mark ???
I mean, I still see people being...questionable at best
Like that one atlas player rushing into entire team alone and getting eaten alive in 5 seconds
oh yeah that still happens sometimes
sometimes that also succeed when the entire team is blind and you are screaming at them about this guy and they just don't seem to notice at all
I am about halfway into T3 and haven't noticed any particular changes in teamplay thus far at least, for better or worse
same
3x rac2 shadow hawk is so much fun
I think one of the bushwacker variant is specialized on rac too, maybe I will get in when discount happens
though in general, I just really like the IS 55 tonners, they are fun and tough, a good balance of mobility and lethality
...maybe I should consider Kintaro too, but I kinda already have a srm boat with Griffin already
built with a pair of RAC/5s and 4 MLs
last second locust casualty but im feeling very good about this shadow hawk's performance
this is probably the best match I ever have in my LBX 20 Adder
the 3 kills are a Bushy, Rifleman IIC, and a Corsair
I dunno how it counts all 3 as solo kills
out of the 3, the Bushwacker is the one that gave me the most trouble, because despite that I have opened up their side torso, it still took me 3 more shots to actually get it, and I'm just being like 'WHERE IS THE HITBOX'
right, that's very disappointing of PGI to get something like that pass
just saw someone with the most redditor transphobic name possible and spamming racist bullcrap, typical of online game but I really wonder how the hell that got past the filter
it seems like everyone with the unit tag 99 is raging racist or raging sexist or complete idiot
already reported them by the way
PIRANHA BEST MECH
TEAMWORK IS OVERPOWERED
catgirl and I basically just tagteamed half of the enemy team to death, holy shit that was so funny
yes teamwork makes the dream work!!!~
hell yeah!
and there we go, best game in the AMS Kitfox, with 3 Heavy Medium and 4 HMG, plus more ammo than god
HMG is really good against flamer Blackjack that tried to cook you up
tried
and I have now maxed out all my light and medium mechs
...
I think I'm going to get more quirked up mobile mechs whenever the next discount happens because I'm not sure if I'm gonna like leveling up what I have left
the sun spider isn't even slow, why does it feel so slow then...
Two reasons.
One, if a mech is bigger, that impacts turning speed and deceleration too, not just top speed/acceleration.
Two, just from the way things move around you, the bigger you are, the less significant speed feels, in my experience. You will feel slower.
Hell yes. Glad you two had some good matches!
Okay, I think when the discount hits, I think I will buy
A Kintaro (tough missile boat)
Summoner (jumpy mobile heavy, usually got for SRM)
MASC Thunderbolt (if only there's a list on what variant actually using MASC)
Jenner IIC (more srm)
Incubus (mg variant)
And Vapor Eagle (jumpy whatever, anything will do)
I'm going to have a fucking aneurysm again
stop fucking running away everytime I'm corner peeking, teammates, fucking useless
everytime I don't play as light, the lights are going to be the stupidest fucking 'always flanking' idiots ever, and never actually do the one thing LIGHTS ARE GOOD AT WHICH IS SCOUTING
still, this ultra 20 champion is fun when things don't go horribly wrong
also it doesn't help that being a heavy seems to just give you less c bill and exp
@lilac shadow up for a couple rounds?
I think I am hitting bed after one more. Long day at work then hosted lancer heh
kk
ohhhh masc tbolt sounds fun
I forgot which variant is the MASC tbolt though
thunderbolt is like one of my favorite mech designs
it would be very helpful if PGI actually has a wiki to point out which one has it...
i didn't know any of them had masc
the actual wiki doesn't seem to have said info
multiple mech has it but you have to find it out carefully yourself
like vulcan, the post Helm wolverine
clan has more MASC mech
like shadowcat, hellfire, black lanner, executioner
flea also has masc, which lets it be the fastest mech in the game currently temporarily
one phoenix hawk and cataphract has masc too
though I don't think phoenix hawk really needs it
it looks fragile but you can move so much in it that you can torso twist and absorb all the damage easily
unless it's ppc and ac 20
holy shit the clutch
lmao
world's weakest urbie
same match, I finally have 6 goddamn uber kill and damage with this thing
get killed by a Spider
I am genuinely amazed we won that
I shot at you with so much ultra 20 and I seriously wonder how I can't kill you
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechs Wiki's garbage but this is pulled from in-game files (uncheck 'hide specials' to see legendaries).
yeah mechdb is solid
oh great so the masc thunderbolt isn't available to ftp player yet
there is the cataphract though...
well, I guess rifleman with 2 ultra 5 is a very good mech after all
I was practically dead in that match, but then the enemy decided to ignore me for my allies and then my dual ultra 5 were able to core them one by one
I have 5.5 tons of ammo, that was barely enough somehow
I think I'm starting to properly relearn how to heavy
this is from a Night Gyr, very much a glass cannon heavy
well, as much of a glass cannon a 75 tonner can be
oh right, that one quirk that makes its heat sink work the same in any environment
heyyyy, just saw this message, sorry Loller!
Been zonin out and gamin with the catgirl
Picked up a crusader with the shit tons of laser mounts
the 6T? it's very funny
gives the arm a ton of small laser and you got a heat efficient brawling monster
I think this is the first time I ran out of ammo in my Orion, an ultra 10 and mrm 30
that's a ridiculous amount of damage jesus
Yeah, that is basically what I did! I did slightly tweak to have a few mpulses but basically just that.
well, all the good games in the morning are now completely ruined by extremely godawful game at late night
also, patch notes are out
sneak peak my ass, the entire patch note revealed before was exactly the only thing changes in this patch note
I was hoping for more
goddamn it really does feel like the later the night goes, the stupider my teammates get, consistently
it's pain
...oh I'm in tier 2
was the tier system just as broken as the old one, which is that it's impossible to drop down a tier so tier 1 ended up having a lot of godawful players?
because I have been losing straight for the past 2 hours and somehow I ended in tier 2
that doesn't sound right
and also that implies I'm a good player, I'm definitely not
You can gain rank while losing if you appease whatever algorithm it is that decides rank-up
If you drop 2 UAVs a game in reasonably good spots you're essentially guaranteed to go to to the highest tier as long as your gameplay is okay
so you can scout your way to tier 1?
that said I don't really use the consumable, at all, ever since I started playing the game, except that one time I tried to drop UAV for some event and then get shot to pieces for it, that was a few years ago I think
anyway I think that's about for tonight, basically about to finish skilling up the remaining 3 of my heavy mechs
I guess you can call me a purist on that, it just feels like that consumables are essentially pay to win to me, some were even only purchaseable with only MC if I remember correctly
also being arty for like the hundred times does feel kinda annoying
it was even worse back then...
they often even just pay for themselves
it's just the alternative mc price for the consumable
I think the MC price for consumables is utterly irrelevant considering you can spam C-Bill consumables and profit essentially the same from each game
it lets you pay real money for C-Bills, which... okay?
just typical micro-transaction stuff i guess
If people want to pay real money to get more mechs and stuff, I have no real issue with that
This is essentially a different angle on that, and probably no one does it.
I don't particularly like the fact that new ones that come out are paid-only for a few months, I think that is probably the only real sore spot here
new mechs, rather
Same, I typically drop 2 every match haha
@craggy silo 2v2 matches?! And 4v4s??
ohhhh~
iirc it's all based on match score
It's relative to something
I'll be around as well
and if you want another person for 4v4s I can be available
ok cool! I'll ping here once we end gloomhaven and if I can tear myself away from mini painting
4v4s max out at duo queue but I'll be around
we are still gloomhavin' a good time, might not get to mech for a bit still heh
just leveling my remaining heavy mechs with this event right now
farming C-bills with my night gyr
annnnnd done
all my heavy, medium, and light mechs are maxed out in skill
just leave the... assault
I'm just gonna watch scott pilgrim
also I now have some 60 millions, jesus
that's a lot of dosh to throw when the next battlemech discount happens
there we fucking go
wow loller nice job man
got room for another in the lance! Is it ok to ping people?! @vestal kelp @austere ice @teal oasis ?!
(or anyone else reading this obvs!)
not even a scratch
we have good heat management
bought kintaro
when yr locusts toenails are painted bright pink 💅
it's a very good srm splat medium
also has enough armor quirk to make it as tough as a heavy
so it can get very funny
yeah, 3 most damage done is excellent. Efficient damage is better than big pointless damage!
You're welcome to join us next time we play Solea!
the more important part is KMDD indeed
CT core drilling can give you a surprisingly low score, this happens often with PPC build
or headchopping
but yeah
light 2v2s are actually really fun
though I"m also bringing 1. an urbie and 2. a UAC/20
good god
no curbie
jams sting though
and not too many trigger pulls
next project is the RAC5
it was in the middle of the night for me, but if I will be awake, sure
god those jams hurt on the RAC
the AC/20's a biiiit slow?
but it still might be worth over the ultra
ok actually no I need the ammo
the UAC is running on the razor's edge of ammunition with a single ton
purchased a raven as well, gave it the classic triple large laser build and, well, it just works
it's reliable
...and this might sounds cursed, but I think I might be getting one of the Hachetman
because one of the variant has like, 6 energy slots in right hand or something, which mean you can have half a Crusader 6T with small lasers fist
that's gonna be painful upclose, probably most so than the hatchet if it works at all in the first place
They should put the Stealth in MWO.
I don't like it that much or anything, I just think it's funny that most models don't have stealth armour.
Love what this person's doing.
Huh. Do the F's in Fafnir FNR mean Flamer Flamer Flamer?
Really hard to fit much with 2x H.Gauss.
If I'm reading that right, they have like 8-9 tons of H.Gauss ammo?
I dunno, skills add some ammo.
cryptid
the hatchet is entirely cosmetic
what a wild ass build haha.
yes that's what I just said
also, turns out the 7 laser slots hand Hatchetman I talked about also has jumpjet and MASC
so, this might be way funnier than I thought
I think I might actually just get a bunch of these, the high ballistic/missile mount is very very useful and this thing is quite tough as a jumping 45 tonner
purplepurplepurple
anyone for some games?
so, slight correction, all hatchetman variants are tough, except the one I bought, because it has all the speed
okay I do not know why but I'm seriously getting targetted
I have been shot in the back for the umpteenth times already
it's like they constantly know where I am AND I can hear the getting targeted sound so I know when am I getting targetted
or maybe what is going is that I ran out of GSP and extra exp to upskill my new mechs before going into battle and they just end up being very fragile
back on my ebon jag after a short obsession with my shadow hawk
i'm suuuuuuuch a ho for autocannons
damn, I think I'm getting too infamous and is just getting headhunted right now
double UAC20s.....good
Hunchback IIC?
It can get very fun if you last hit well in close range
It's also somewhat fragile but such is the life of Hunchback IIC
yeah it was for the 2v2s
I'll probably refit it with double HAG30 for QP
oh, wow, really learned the value of 'Information is ammuntion' in one match
so what happened is that someone managed to drop a drone at a side of the map I'm on but nobody shot it down, we are losing, but I decided to fight it out with a Crusader 6T in my small laser hatchetman, which means between us we have like, 19 small laser burst
the part of the map I'm in is also full of short corridors that are just the right distance for my laser to hit down anything within
with the drones up, I can see which of the 4 battlemechs on this side of the map are heading in, so I rush to their lane, fire my mrm and small laser, and they get scared and ran back
except, the crusader then ran off somewhere, because there's 4 battlemechs in front of us
but I decided to hold the ground because we are about to lose anyway, and as it turns out, one mech can hold off 4 mechs if they all decided to go in one by one, because this part of the map also resticted movemetns
I did so much damage to them, they are all CT stripped, which means they are even more afraid of my small laser burst
in fact, they are so scared, they all ran off
to kill my teammates, which sucks, but they all ran off from an opponent all of them outmassed, each
I'm in a 45 ton Hatchetman, and I held off against a Marauder, another Crusader, Hellbringer, and a Huntsman
so anyway I chased after them, killed one of them, and then a Fafnir shot me in the back, and that's the end of my story
i also bet that they didn't realised the my Crusader has ran off, meaning they thought there was another mech just around the corner
but they didn't know that, because they don't have UAV up in the air, and they are too afraid to check
anyway I suggest getting seismic sensor to prevent this kind of bullshit from happening to you, it can check around the corner
but only when you don't move
okay I'm in love with this hatchetman now
HPG, our team decided to go all basement, well, two third of the team did
and then we somehow got back from 0-4, the seven small laser fist is so devastating at this knife range holy shit
also helpful that the enemies are completely disorganized in assaulting the basement, so we get to pick them off easily because they kept switching entrances
bloody Fist of North Star right here
okay, found something very interesting
the SRM Hunchback looks ridiculous
it has some armor quirk like other hunchback.... and ungodly amount of structure quirk
like
give it assault mech level of structure quirk
before skilling it
it even has crit reduction quirk, just to make it lasts longer
Best guess is to keep it competitive with faster SRM options released over time?
Well I wouldn't say a hunchback is slow, at least a fully upgraded one
Swaybacks are weird
hunchbacks are slow
like
they're less janky in movement than bigger mechs of the same speed
but they do not get to go remotely fast
these 1v1 heavy matches are very silly. My crusader 6t has just cored four people in a row with frankly very little difficulty so far haha
This is a fun arena map
oh god
I just murdered a jagermech
left arm then right arm then center
probably but people are also playing these to skill up mechs
ok this leg meta shit is annoying
that is exactly what i said while going to the gym this week
Are people just focus firing legs?
It's the easiest way in duels
If you aim at torsos it's really easy to fail to focus fire
yeah it's the fastest way to kill a mech
It's not the fastest way to kill a mech
not even close
it's just the most reliable
fine, it's the most reliable way to quickly kill a mech
the least susceptible to hitboxes and shaky aim
though someone brought a double HGR blight which really stings
also flamers
I might want to bring flamers
flamers are pretty good for duelling
hmm, can I fit 14 flamers onto my crusader...
It's hard to imagine a worse build than 14 flamers
Try it once and you'll understand why
oh I meant like, two
My imagination for bad builds knows no bounds
this isn't 'bad'
Like
load 14 flamers onto it
go into testing
hit the button
you'll know what I mean immediately
I have a Piranha named 'bomb' with 14 flamers
if you hit O right at the start of the match and then fire once, you will die literally before any fire actually appears and confuse the hell out of everyone
ok I'll be real duels kinda stink
they're not particularly interesting, no
this was kinda neat at first but it's a lot of the stuff about this game that I don't particularly like
it's a different metagame that really isn't for everyone
and burning someone's legs off with 14 SXPL isn't fun on my end
like, I win and it's profitable but I'm not really enjoying it
it just feels kinda deterministic
it's not, you can still affect things by twisting or positioning
eh even twist only does so much
It doesn't do nothing
You can also drill through a side torso if you're confident with your aim
I guess it doesn't feel like I'm actually thinking about things, it's just "if I go for the legs I win"
idk I'm just not having fun
You really don't need to justify it beyond that
they're fairly linear and not super interesting
I guess it's that there's none of the strategic layer that I actually enjoy
there's still some actual play there but it's not nearly the same game
If there was a ranking system, tho... Give me those sweet sweet ladder points. Let me make the number go up and it's GOTY
There used to be a game mode called Solaris VII which was basically that
it was not super popular
I'm not saying that there isn't but it's all mechanics instead of the stuff that I enjoy
I agreed with you like three times
you do not need to reassert that
maybe I misread your messages then, mb
so this is the true power of gauss
so, the solaris is fun
converted my Crusader 6T to pure x pulse build and, well, the trick is that in solaris, if you are close enough, your opponent will always die faster than you get cooked to death
also most people will just aim CT anyway so XL is very viable
or leg
don't forget leg armor
also cataphract is very armored and the CT is strangely hard to aim at, so aim for the legs
Apologies for deleting prev message:
"From what I remember, the Cataphract's CT is like a stick compared to the side torsos.
Crotch also counts as CT?"
https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/149115-mech-analysis-cataphract/
This image comes from [GUIDE] HIT BOX LOCALISATION by Rainbow Unikorn.
so my Crusader 6T is super good, except when it's defeated by 2 strategies
autocannon 5 leghunt
and going slightly sideway
because, once I'm in range, I just fire without a care to my heat
so if my opponent know when I'm overheating, they could just turn sideway and then let the heat kill me
lmao
you might be asking why autocannon 5, well, nothing else has the DPS to leghunt fast enough before I get in their face and murder them
bought another Urbie because I can, I want something on IS side full of machineguns anyway
Flea
something that also don't die if someone stares at it
pounding the table LOCUST GAMING
...I need to check if every mech of same weight class has same max armor without quirks
Probably no
But I need to check
the armor point you put in is the same for each different weight (not weight class, but every 5 ton increments)
armor quirk add on to this, and skill upgraded further increase this by a percentage
for example, 20 ton flea and locust has 138 max armor points
but locust with its quirk and armor skill and increase it to... 265
oh wow no wonder it's so hard to kill these things
all 30 tonners have 210 armor point max
unless PGI somehow introduces quadmech, we won't be seeing a difference here
Yeah, so like technical operation rules
yup
Double the structure points
yeah the hit points are all doubled in MWO
otherwise each match would not have lasted as long
like seriously, it's absurd how easy it is to leg things in MW3 because of this
MW4 started this trend of doubling effective armor which certainly make the fight in it more enjoyable instead of 'one shot everywhere'
especially with how much AC 20 and gauss rifle shots getting thrown around by the end game
If you want it to be way bigger than a light? Crael, but it's a hero mech.
Medium? There's Blackjack Arrow with MGs and LXPL but again, hero. You can probably do something with PXH-1, MGs and energy. BSW-X1 (Bushwacker) can run an effective 8 MGs with room for three SRMs and a Flamer.
It has 4 ballistic slots.
But +100% MG ROF.
Which is in many ways better than running 8.
So just run 4 (MG of choice), some SRMs, a Flamer to win some duel matchups, and you're golden. Might need an XL though.
Not sure, honestly. Light could do it too.
we lost but that game was silly as fuck
i was mech warrioring my ass off in my uwu heavy
I'm really getting rather sick of people constantly picking Vitric, rather hard to leverage my usually brawler build in that map
also, AC2 Blackjack... really struggle in this age of binary super alpha and HAG
so, well, gonna just rebuild that into the AC10 Blackjack, at least I get more damage in mid range and get to torso twist instead of trying to stare down things I shouldn't
ahhh, I really want light-autocannon to be here right now
seven SL fist Hatchet is strong, outbrawled a bunch of (already somewhat damaged) assaults and heavies
I really adore this thing
Is the uWu warhorn playing now??
yeah i figured it out. it was playing before too but there's a high pitched and a low pitched demonic sounding uwu
the demonic one is so low it just sounds like battle rumble most of the time
A low pitched UwU just doesn't have the same morale eroding effect.
Longbow surprise dropped today?
That's the all laser one right??
Lasers and snubs.
Definitely what I think of when I think Longbow
anyone know what you get if you get the steam DLCs?
is it a key, does it get automagically credited to account?
WHOA
i did not hear about this
that is cool
not bad for a work day session between meetings
uwu poptarts feeling right
also it came down to a firestarter with a single ac/20 on our team and an enemy marauder and the firestarter rly tried
but could not clutch victory from the jaws of defeat
btw @teal oasis the only tbolt i see with masc is TDR-10SE. i think a few days ago you were wondering abt that and couldn't find the answer on the wiki or smth
Just hopped into a match, about half the people on both teams had either the new shieldmech or the longbow. Wild how many people immediately buy the new stuff?!
I mean, it's good for the game devs obviously, just didn't realize it was... such a high % of players
oh yeah that happens when new stuff drops in, people just want to try out the new stuff
I'm just... afraid of the sheer amountof the lurm coming in
people drop in to try out the new stuff, which is also why the servers were crying today
also I suspect the proportion of people willing to spend money on MWO has gone up as the game has aged
hope PGI get it a cup of tea and biscuits
well, I'm, might also be looking to purchasing a meckpack, if it's on discount
I was getting matchmaking error due to a lack of servers
the urbanmech IIC one
Just makes it a great day to play AMS Kit Fox or Corsair
it's also no worse than like, a dire wolf kitted with lurms
also, I proclaim that once again, PGI is coward
the Longbow NAIS variant in canon has light autocannon
it gets AC2 instead here
GIVE ME THE LIGHT AC
GIB
I forgive them because making a MASC Longbow is hilarious
It's not like it's gonna break balance as hard as Binary and HAG did
HAGs post nerf feel weird
they're still really good but I actually have to care about heat and the cooldown nerf stings
this thing is evil btw
their DPS is lowered for sure, well, sustained DPS
sandblast people with 105 damage lurm volleys
it's still a good weapon at long range, but at close or knife range, the reload and heat gets problematic
which is probably intended, because the amount of time I got eviscerated by HAG at close range combat is a bit much
I don't even use my Hellfire with HAG as a fire support build, I always desire to get close with it and it just works
I fit my hunchie with two HAG30s and it poptarts like a monster
the guns are like two inches higher than the cockpit
the highmount is so good
yeah, the hunchback IIC with the two HAG30s is one of my favorites. Lovely lil thing
but I'm also pretty sure whoever piloting Hunchback IIC is gonna get called as Star Captain Tinnitus
of course, it's probably a kind of honor badge because most people driving a Hunchback IIC probably don't live long enough to get tinnitus
q: does AMS go thru walls? I know visually it seems to, but does the effect as well?
hmmm
well
it's kinda machinegun I guess
which is actually a hitscan weapon like laser but the tracer makes it seems like it's not
which also means that if you are trying to be sneaky, having an AMS around is probably not a good idea
aren't engines supposed to be on sale?
the 50% word don't really appear on all those engines, but their prices are really cut down in half
it happened in the last sale too
I think there's just like, too many of them or something
ah, kk
WHEEEEEEE
you bought the solaris pack?
ye
it doesn't get you a key but it does ask you if you want to redeem the pack on the account you logged in on
this is so goddamn fast
zooooooom
so erm
the new HMG Adder is fucking terrifying
that's a ridiculous amount of HMG holyshit
we got a new contender for absolute bullshit
It's also a wide light mech that needs to get super close and is sub-100km without Speed Tweak.
It's got downsides.
There's a very good reason they gave this to the Adder and not a light mech that'd make better use of the loadout, like uh. Most of them.
what the heck are all these new legend variants, this single energy Jenner is ridiculous
bad good ideas!
oh fuck off game
I bought seismic to prevent this shit
am I supposed to believe that stealthed enemy can somehow avoid that??? I'm not even moving
I have like 8 rear armor plus 38 structure, it's not even a SRM splat, and that kill me instantaneously? that's fucking bullshit
I can hear that it's an autocannon but I don't even get to turn around before getting downed instantly, that's absurd
how much AC alpha that would be, not even double AC 20 can take me down instantly from the rear
fucking ridiculous
I'm just so fucking tired of teammates with situation awareness of essentially a bat, I STANDING IN FRONT OF THEM AND I GOT DOWNED FROM A REAR SHOT
A bat would actually be helpful because they can hear things
like genuinely, what's the point of my carrying reasonable of rear armor if this kind of bullshit just gonna fucking happen???
UAC/20 double tap plus other stuff?
There's builds that can throw 100+ downrange in one volley
my best guess is a catapult with double snubnose and LBX 10, but I last saw that guy running away
there's also an assault with double ultra 10 something, that might be it
but I don't hear a burst, I hear single autocannon, a bunch of single autocannon, and then I die
so unless I got sneaked by a stealthed Annihilator in less than 100 meters range, I'm genuinely not sure what the hell kill me and it just further proves that my teammates are just plain useless
anyway I guess to apology for this sheer display of stupidity, the game gave me a good match in my Kintaro
the bug from the server issue today is at least somewhat funny I guess
keep getting notifications like 'the lobby has been destroyed'
hmm
is it just me or more mech when downed get destroyed in half now?
or maybe it's just the newer mechs that only this happen?
hmm, okay, dual lbx 2 Blackjack works better than dual ac2 BJ
especially after the patch that gives me so much more extra ammo
it seems like skirmish in Bearclaw II is becoming more and more just fighting at the left side of the map unless something pulls people in
also erm, the Bearclaw II map just seem outright unfair on objective focused match to the team in the North?
domination has the circle being just plain further to reach, and so are conquest
and there's a massive corridor, so the north team gets shot up on reaching the circle in time, but this can be avoided if they are smart about it
still, not very fair
okay I really should just, stop throwing any sort of negative complaint here like it's my personal rant chamber
no more negative energy, it's really starting affect my altitude at other places as well, reality is not helping already so let's just cut this down
it's okay to be negative sometimes, and it's okay to share negative thoughts about things, just... moderation, yeah?
yeah
it's starting to feel like that nobody that bought the longbow pack actually use it as a lrm boat lmao
like nearly every single longbow I fought today is just lethal at close range
might as well call it the shortbow
I'm a complete idiot, I was thinking of buying a rac buchwacker for a dual rac 5 wacker.... except I already got one for it I just didn't read the quirk closely
Oh, and erm
I think I killed TTB last night?
or someone downed him
if it's him and not a poser
Just having some thoughts on how to make battlemech combat in offline Mechwarrior as exciting and difficult as Armored Core battle
The main problem is all the weapons are aimed pinpoint into a reticle, which concentrat all the firepower into a single spot
I'm thinking of something like how Elite Danger does it, which is that you lock onto a target and each weapon has their aimpoints that move all over the place in a circles
This would mean that you cannot concentrate all your firepower into a single spot, and shooting skill is instead less about aiming and more about timing
If you are good enough, you could still shoot at the same spot, just much harder now.
This also simulate the same randomness on tabletop, so it's somewhat accurate too
This should make battlemech vs battlemech much harder and more memorable rather than just click and instant headshot
That of course, is just shooting, movement should be somewhat changed too
Battlemech obviously, cannot jet around like AC, but they do have multi ton gyro
You can spend the energy from the gyro to avoid incoming projectile by juking your opponent, suddenly changing your direction, against big guns, this can be very useful in avoiding sudden death
Having buttons to sidestep or turning sideway to hopefully reduce your profile could work too, giving options for slower and heavier mechs
And of course, it would be nice if jumpjet equipped mech have more control over direction too
I guess the main thing here is that shooting is still important, but I want people to interact with other aspects of a battlemech too
Gameplay in MW5 is usually really just... moving, then shooting at targets until they are dead, and then move some more.
It's not very imaginative
Even MW4 at least has the circle of doom, which is due to the fact that acceleration and deceleration in that game is quite slow, so people just keep moving forward and turn around their foes to shoot at them
And also because you don't need to constantly press W to move
And precisely controlling your speed is hard
Just got MW5:Mercenary on sale. Did the first two missions and I'm wondering: does walking into buildings to destroy them also deal damage to my mech?
Iirc if it's things like gas tanks/generators yes? Otherwise no
i think it depends on mech size
i think it doesn't damage your mech if it's heavy and above?
other way around
mechs heavy and above can walk through walls and larger buildings
mechs medium and below can't, in MW5
it does not damage them either way unless you run over explosives or power plants
Alright, good to know. I'm keen to see how many different mechs I will end up switching between
update: triple blazers are really fun but they're so heat inefficient that it's actually pretty hard to rack up damage
54 damage peeks are great for trading but I get two blasts and then like fifteen seconds of cooling time
4.7 sustained DPS, which uh
stings
Dedicated skirmisher?
more of a sniper but yeah
take advantage of being able to put down very precise fire at 600m in very large chunks
but I need something like ten blasts "on target" to do "enough" damage and more realistically 11 or 12
so I need to be able to spend a lot of time cooling
54 ppfld that requires basically no aim is good tho
it's very funny yeah
anyway, just waiting on the christmas event now, december is gonna be a month filled with them so get prepared
alright, putting more crab on the list of things I want to buy, because I just want more crab
I think I might have made a mistake buying this urbie
sure it has 4 ballistic for 4 heavy machineguns
...but I only have 2 energy slots
hmmm
okay, 2 medium pulse doesn't work
but what about 2 LPPC plus 4 machinegun build
the sad thing is that Urbie is slow and this build is not good at any range besides knife range, so I guess this let me pop some shots at a distance and then actually exploit those holes when things get closer
alright, settled on 2 LPPC plus 4 light machine gun, a more mid range build, this should works much better
with 3 tons of ammo, I can fire those LMG for a long while
which urbie?
iirc the meta is the largest engine you can fit and a pair of SNPPCs
the R60 with 4 ballistic and 2 energy
Yeah the magic drive urbie is a bit borked,
yeah mount a 180 rated engine and then MGs and lasers
large ballistics just don't really work on urbies unfortunately
which sucks because I really want them to
which is a shame
if only light autocannon is in MWO
that would be fun
oh yeah that was very much my build before
it just that it absolutely will not work if the pub team I'm in cannot commit, and then I just die doing not much
I don't have the firepower to open up armor on my own
yeah that's fair
this might work better for a shoot and scoot build
but personally the best urbie that isn't a hero mech is a R80 with 2 SNPPCs
that's the ECM urbie right?
ye
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=bbf8e135_UM-R80
grimmechs recs this
but if you've got a 180 rated you can go for FF and drop the SLs
having some small laser is fun though
huh, ermmm, this server issue is more severe than I thought
and by severe I mean I cannot select any of my fucking mechs
that was a weird hiccup
Looks like server issue is identified but it's a big enough fix that they are only patching it onnext week or so
Also December Event got delayed because PGI wants to make sure it works first which is fair
anyone has opinions on orion?
either IS or II-C
they are pretty durable mechs, right?
i'm feelin brawly
and i have many c-bill to burn
yeahh....crab....i could use a crab...
what are your thoughts on crab? what calls to you when you think of crab?
i'm also thinking of purchasing a bushwacker
after playing my shadow hawk a bit i think i want more mediums
Long nose somehow equal in destrutibility
rly quite surprised coz i thought i'd be a mostly light girly but i'm getting rly into mediums and heavies
i could use more shadow hawks
You just shake in a crab when getting shot and suddenly you are spreading the damage everywherr
maybe a ppc poptarts shadow hawk
oh that's a good point i didn't even think about that with those weapon mounts
i used to play a lot of war thunder so when i saw the crab nose mounts i was immediately overtaken by the spirit of p-38 lightning
I have the one with 6 energy slots
The old build of 6 medium pulses work well, but currently I'm using it with dual binary plus 2 backup medium
It's quite devastating
the ac10/2snppcs build on grimmechs speaks to me
and with a std engine too
could be a contender
harder to kill than anyone might expect and way more deadly in the clinch than ppl might expect
but it's a hero mech
2lb10+lppc is also kinda cool but it's on an XL engine and i think LPPC is like, FINE but not as fun as 2 snppcs and much easier to kill than the std engine i think...tho i guess with how i assume crab hit boxes are the XL engine might not be that much of an issue
good brawlers or PPC platforms
the double RAC/5 bushwacker is a good time
fast enough to get into good positions and you can burn people down with the twin RACs
I finally bit the bullet and got MW5
And this goober showed up in my hanger
Meet Goblin
Unfortunately a different voice actor from the similarly weird "Goblin" in MW4:Mercs, but at least this guy comes with a really decent Phoenix Hawk
goblin rules i remember him and his phoenix hawk
His absolutely cracked phoenix hawk. If you are using Yet Another MechLab you can do some disgusting things with it.
I haven't touched his mech too much despite utilizing yaml but im still pretty early in the game. My current peak bullshit is a 20 SRM kintaro that i'm keeping barely functioning with a surprise set of double heatsinks I picked up early
Kintaro in HBS Battletech is quite devastating too, all that SRM is nuts
in MWO, SRM is painfully short in range, but if I get close enough, someone will get hurt
to every MWO players, use CS23-EQV5JDX redeem code to get a Hatamoto-ku 27W
I think I have it already, so I'm just gonna sell it
more importantly it's a free mechbay
oh right yeah
free mechbay is more important
you get like, 1.9 million from selling the frame
and twice more from selling everything, like the 320 standard engine that you probably won't use ever
aaaa, I know PGI is probably gonna fix this problem in less than a week but aaaaa, I really want to play MWO with events
blazers!
Theyre called binary lasers because they directly toggle your target's binary state
living -> dead
looks like the hotfix to patch the server issue will be in... 2 days
yeah 54 damage zaps at 600m are nothing to scoff at
I suppose I can't be entirely mad at PGI for making binary laser good
and also the fact it's just so funny because a binary laser is just 2 large laser duct taped together, so all those builds with 3 or 4 of them has like 6 to 8 fucking large lasers and that's nuts
Also if blazers were as bad as TT nobody would use them
The triple blazer dao breaker is solid though
Two zaps before overheat and the rifleman has a ridiculous amount of arm traverse
So I can shoot UAVs or mechs directly above me
high mount too, sadly, no lower arm actuators
12 hours left to patch, aaaaa
Really hope it works considering it changing a database too which is pain in the ass
@craggy silo if you wanna queue I'll be around
im kinda still working
lmaoooo
maybe a bit later tn!
wait did I ping the wrong person?
no
ah
i was just getting a quick lil game in
ic
looks like the patch didn't just fix server issue but also optimized the game lmao
also a bunch of events are up now
Haven't played for like... 2 or 3 weeks? First game back and did alright I think
nice
holy shit
while playing a match of magic at the same time 😎
had a 900 damage match just before this as well
trying to do each weapon type for the event damage
annnnd done with the current december events
ahhhh, there's so much stuff
I want moreee
Is there a good resource where I can compare MW5 mechs? I'm mostly done with the campaign and plan to install some mods and play a new career, so it might not be necessary, but the information you get in the regular game is thin at best
Mw5 has a weirdly lacking amount of online docs
I've looked several things up and only gotten results for MWO
hm, alright. is there a list of recommendations for which mods? Looks like the yaml mods seem to be highly regarded
- I really like yaml.
- TT_Rulez_AIMod2 is important for making your teammates not total goobers
- Get mod options to make yaml work
- War FX makes the game look really good but it makes even my computer lag if I zoom on smoke effects and its a pretty beefy new rig
well, my computer is quite old, but I've also seen some "performance enhancing" mods. Do those actually work?
I can't help you there to be honest. What's above is the extent of my mod knowledge for the game
well it's nice to get some input, thanks. I'll definitely get a mod that changes reputation gain, because I enjoyed the missions that are for medium and heavy mechs the most. The difficulty 13 zones I'm in just seem weird. I can deploy 4 atlases and finish with scratched paint, but if I change it up, my lancemates just get shredded
huh, just ended up in a game with the NGNG guy
hell yeahhhhhhh, solid last match of the night
double the match score of anyone else in the game
4 kills, in a quad lmg urbie
somehow
my team was too passive in that fight but even when stationary my team outmatched our opponent, this does means that there's a lot of opportunity for me to finish off cored enemies
good lord, please for the love of everything, lock on to an assault that's sneaking on your allies if you are wolf hunting in a light lance
DON'T JUST STARE AT IT
so, December patch note is up
a lot of interesting things there
including announcement for new legendary mech that includes... a Longbow with rocket launcher HSL+3
and December free mech event gives us a Warhammer and a whole new Commando variant with small cockpit and compact gyro, which let allows it to have 2 energy slot in the head and 3 in the CT!
I like where this is going
also, more Cauldron balance stuff
like HAG getting purple tracer so people can differentiate it,
and interestingly, a buff to SHS?
why? I dunno
this will affect like nobody's build since everyone move to DHS as soon as possible
unless...
PGI is finally deciding to add IS omnimech and they will start with FUCKING STRIDER
the new SR variant is going to be a fucking menace
4 ballistic high mounts
also substantial RAC changes
I was wondering what is missing on my MWO account, then I realised I didn't have the number '1' decal for my signature 11 insignia
this must be corrected
hell yeah
now to convert all my mechs to this look
I just noticed that the Dragon 1C has laser HSL+1, which apply to binary laser...
unsurprisingly, a triple binary dragon is very lethal
very hot, but very lethal
What is the trade off on the small cockpit tho
Nothing really
Small cockpit in TT has piloting penalties, if they wanted to replicate that could probably make the in-game view more cramped.
oh hey the new event is u-
EARN ONE HEAD SHOT?
FUCK
Uh oh.
the rest is perfectly doable but this one is gonna be difficult to say the least lmao
oh yeah, and loot bag
and sale
and december free mechs
a lot of fucking stuff is about to come
Doable if there is an afk in enemy team-
bought some more mediums because I just have too much cbill right now
the srm hunchie, ac20 enforcer (sadly without jumpjet), and 2 more crabs because I can
okay, upgraded the engine of my ac20 enforcer by ripping out anything unnecessary, mostly, now it's a 97 kph ac20 enforcer, differentiating it from my ac20 hunchback, which just has an absurd rapidly firing ac 20
I feel kinda stupid but I'm somehow in love with the MWO Hatchetmen?
like I really want the hatchet to be an actual usable thing
but also the Hatchetman is surprisingly good high mobile ballistic mech?
I just bought 2 more today, a rac and ultra, and they work fantastically
they are stupid but they work
got another phoenix hawk, a UAC one because I just feel like flying a gundam
it works surprisingly well for me, somehow
you would think a uac 5 that feels like it constantly jam plus 3 Er medium isn't much, but it works for this thing
really feeling the power of being rich by just buying up 9 battlemechs over the span of 3 days on whim
50 million cbill, gone just like that
I finally have the Hellspawn, and now I went from some 78 million to only 13
it's erm, it's good, but I also felt annoyed about it too
because everytime I fire the missile, the cover would go up on my left side and it's very distracting
it's a huge cover too so it's very noticeable
I think there's an option to keep it open? Dunno if that helps haha
Yea, unless you're pouring missiles or ambushing with SRMs/MRMs you'll probably want the door closed
does the DR thing still apply with missile door?
considering that now you fire missile immediately without needing to open the door
which mean there's no penalty
yes iirc
well, one thing about hatchetman, they look fantastic for xenomorph cosplay
so, just bought another mech, a dervish, because I want finally get something built for streak
turns out, when every single SRM hit the target, the target get hit pretty fucking hard even if you are firing slower
4 streak srm 6 is still 48 damage after all, and this is with none of the srm going missing
ecm also isn't a problem, because ecm prevent lock at distance
you are already using streak srm right in someone's face, so it doesn't matter at all
or just bring tag
that said, while streak send missile everywhere, these are still srm so they are very good at destroying components
so, yeah, that 250 destroyed component objective? I'm seeing it rising very quickly over the course of the past 3 hours
I think
I think that's 3 hours
and managed to max out the streak dervish already
yeah, i think I can conclude that streak is fun!
I'm personally not sold on streak just because of the damage spread
Its basically the worst damage spread possible
yeah
but it works!
also I think I finally figured out how to assault
this is with a quad x-pulse charger
it feel very very good when there's 2 stalker and a marauder in front of you and 5 seconds later, there's only one marauder left
so this is the high people chase with assault for huh?
streak is also very good against high mobile character, which the normal srm do not, if you are an unskilled shot like me
there's something about watching a bunch of streak slamming into a locust that would have dodged everything else.
a match with my corsair hero from some event a very long time ago
I thought 2 ac10 and mrm 40 might not match up to the current meta but hey, it works when I could just outlast my opponent by not cooking out
and got multiple very high damage matches with my Banshee, rebuilt for ac 20, double snub, and mrm 40
huh, I guess it just suddenly clicked for me
....hm
I think I might be addicted to this game, because I'm fully considering purchasing the solaris package when it's on discount
maybe I should play less mechwarrior
Or
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damn I really lucked out this time with an ultra rare supply crate
got my country flag!
and also 400 mc
damn, 400mc in a crate!
might be my highest damaging game?
jesus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880526942531637268/1186929010580652082/MWO_12.20.2023-15.11.25.jpg?ex=659508c8&is=658293c8&hm=0ce9fd03fbd0eedb8e1bb6e81ab39eedf0fe4ddb37acd31dd2bec03bd1a3b66d& this is mine so far today, in a Hellfire with UAC 20 plus 3 SRM 6 Art
to my eternal shame it might be a lrmboat
oh my god that was funny and stupid
managed to to sneak up on a stationary arctic wolf and then shot it from the back
with uac 20 and 6 er sml
instant kill
I'm not even sure why they are there, they are just sitting there, not even scouting
ahhhhh
bought in my Hunchback IIC in to fix up its skill and it's just do not disappoint
aaaaaaaaa
yes but sometimes you just want to dump quad ac 20 bursts into someone
apparently there's a code for 7 days premium time
huh, upcoming event for new year stuff already
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I wonder how this would work
damn, vindicator still kick ass for being such a slow 45 tonner
snub nose plus mrm 40 sure do works
annnnd lootbag event finished
Finally got MW5 coop to work after I fixed my trash internet connection
Man its fun to stomp in robots together
I think I just find out jsut how much Atlas can compensate for bad piloting
I was in my Warhammer IIC built for laser vomit, and this Atlas was waltz into open and pepper me with RAC5, but I have cover I jsut keep poking out to shoot them with minimal damage
it took basically a full minute for me to shoot them down, while they are just standing still
I get 1 KMDD with 800 damage, and it's not a surprise what gives me that KMDD
also hilariously I'm the only one that 'saw' them because they have ECM so I can't tell my allies to shoot at them with command
ah okay
bought another mech, a thunderbolt and gave it triple snub nose and mrm 30, it felt soooo goood
Thinking about commiting crime and finally try out LRM boat with a Trebuchet
Okay, new list of mech to get after having so much fun with the Thunderbolt
Champion variants for more speed 60 tonners and possibily mounting Lbx20 &Heavy goose
Dragon Variant to try out the new quirk for it
Maybe Quickdraw for once?
More Bushwacker for wacky power build
Hunchback Grid Iron for medium heavy goose build
More Huntsman, Nova, and Ryoken for wacky So8 builds
I'm just testing myself to keep mastering various aspects of the game right now
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event payouts are hefty
I swear we are never on the same team
yeah
and tbf they're longer matches and you're committing more mechs to each match
but that 4x multiplier is golden
I just took out my only ecm heavy so, lmao
time for the LRM105
oh god
nah, just gonna play a few matches before working on today's portion of project
the funniest part about this event queue is that if you absolutely do not give a shit about your heat and the enemeis are all very close, you can kill half the team very quickly
?
whats the secret sauce
banshee
also, the money you get seemed to be mathed wrong
I said wrong, because I got more than what I should have gotten
like 25% more
consistently
this is after the result screen
also, do not underestimate light in this match up
I got a superheavy team of 5 assaults and we got crushed because we were too stupid
oh what the hell