DOTA 2

[viscid tapir]

normally, illusions do not gain bonus damage (the green +###), only base damage (which includes damage from stats, which is why illusion heroes are usually stat sticks)

the innate turns that bonus damage into base damage instead, so the illusions benefit from it

[gritty sparrow]

tbh I am unsure how good this is in comparison to the illusion damage nerf. Crit is now a really good buy on him though

[keen patrol]

Crit is silly now, for some reason

[viscid tapir]

so Divine Rapier usually gives +350 bonus damage, which his illusions wouldn't benefit from.
with the innate, it's 228 bonus base damage, which the illusions DO benefit from

[keen patrol]

Why do the illusions crit so hard?

Like, harder than Phantom Lancer does

[gritty sparrow]

It's sad that a number of plus damage things just aren't great on him by virtue of like, zappy hammer doesn't proc on illusions, and a lot of plus damage things just don't give attack speed. Also the numbers you might see from crit on that are lying

Not sure why

I am wondering if I could get away with Radiance PL

[viscid tapir]

the crit number is before reductions

is I think what you're seeing

[keen patrol]

Why do they do more than the main hero though?

[viscid tapir]

they shouldn't

[keen patrol]

I thought it might have been cause divergence, but it's for both facets

[viscid tapir]

how significant are you seeing the increase?

[keen patrol]

The number is massively higher, but I switched to hitting a hero instead of a dummy and found the issue. It's just visual

The illusion crits for 38 and it displays the crit as 457

For example

[gritty sparrow]

Yeah it's lying

[keen patrol]

Ah, missed that bit

They are 100% lying. I wonder why

It's very obvious in actually practice, cause it's very noticeable that your illusions aren't dealing 7000 on crit

[gritty sparrow]

I am. Wondering if getting a daedalus and rapier is good on him

Like, as your final items

[steel forge]

It's very fun to see the much maligned talon

this is so sad

deserved, probably, but very sad

huh

[steel forge]

okay well I cannot play dota with the stack for a bit because I've broken my microphone in the move but I am playing sceptre desolator daedalus sand king and nobody can stop me

[glossy stratus]

D:

I mean

You could still play, I would definitely prefer a silent Tron to a random

But hopefully your mic gets fixed soon

[steel forge]

the usb connector unfortunately just got completly mashed, and I do not have the technical know-how to fix it so a replacement is in order

[viscid tapir]

but you can build basher

and recreate old aghs

[steel forge]

I think the far funnier answer is building a glepnir on sk

it works with satanic too

why does it work with revenant's brooch

[glossy stratus]

Why wouldn't it?

[steel forge]

I suppose there's no reason, but you'd think it would eat 1 billion mana

however it eats 0

[glossy stratus]

Instant attacks don't cost mana with Brooch

Specifically because of that

It's part of why I like Brooch in the ultralate on Hoodwink

[steel forge]

Huh

Brooch is a weird item

[manic nimbus]

hmm I feel like the rightclick sk probably not the best but will have to see how it plays

[viscid tapir]

somewhat-relatedly: core venomancer is very fun to play

[glossy stratus]

I'm skeptical of the dedicated right click SK, but a light dip into it with aghs plus a Vlads or something seems nice

[manic nimbus]

yeah maybe

[glossy stratus]

@real parcel was it you who requested to be pinged after our game?

[real parcel]

yes, I may require ~5 minutes

[glossy stratus]

Theyflower is off microwaving aaaaaaaaa anyway

@cursive wing

[viscid tapir]

turns out Iron Talon can target ancients

and with 25% spell amp it instantly kills any creep

[gritty sparrow]

Rubick instakilling ancients

[viscid tapir]

we gotta see if you can see ally pings with the bristle facet

or like, mars

[steel forge]

Honestly, I wonder if sk is secretly an amazing mage slayer carrier

Whether or not right click sk is good or not though I like this rework I think

His sceptre was such a problematic ability

[gritty sparrow]

I think like many things that getting certain right click things on him could work but like

Don't get lost in the sauce

Getting an item to proc off the stinger is probably good but going all in on buying like two daedalus is probably bad

Mage Slayer is probably a prime example of something to get for that

[steel forge]

Ill admit Im not actually familiar with how the pros have been playing this bloodstone first build but with the nerfs Im not sure about it

The sceptre even without doing something stupid adds so much damage and also makes epi do physical and magical

I will throw one game by going pure right click sk but I think being a mage slayer carrier in a game where you want one sounds quite good

[gritty sparrow]

Pros go bloodstone first because they are 5 man team fighting by 9 minutes

Though I won't pretend to understand all the workings of them

[steel forge]

I guess the lifesteal off sandstorm is a lot better if you're fighting 5v5 early yeah

and you can burst it off epicentre

also, reporting back on right click sk: I think it's actually not bad, but I need to itemise better

Mage slayer, or at least more bits of it, I think come before aghs

it's just very nice as a farming item for sk, between the attack speed and the mana regen

[gritty sparrow]

If you are a mage slayer carrier you usually buy it first or second

[steel forge]

I think like [early game items] -> blink -> mage slayer is probably what I'm going to try in the future

I do not think this build is actually good but it is very fun

[viscid tapir]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone up for some games?

[steel forge]

I'm game

[willow topaz]

yep

[delicate jungle]

If I can set up my computer fast enough

Actually

I gotta get food nvm

[glossy stratus]

I could do a Dote

Though apparently it needs to update

[viscid tapir]

maybe it's Crownfall

[glossy stratus]

:O

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone down to dote?

[sturdy venture]

(we have 1 more slot)

[steel forge]

That's excellent

1500 damage nether blast

[gritty sparrow]

So much negative magic resist

[steel forge]

I think I need to remember that about techies when Im drafting more

Pairing the mines with a magic damage core like zeus or lesh or something sounds so nice

[paper shell]

Fun news, the new update broke coaching again

[light urchin]

techies moment 😌

[glossy stratus]

@viscid tapir I think part of why I've been so unimpressed by Veno 1 is that every time I've seen it you've been running it with @cursive wing 's support Naga

And while support Naga might be viable again, and it makes for a strong lane, they're strongly anti-synergistic outside of lane

I would probably go so far as to call them a nonbo, they have a lot of role overlap and enhance each other's weaknesses in a fairly major way

And basically no synergy outside of lane

[paper shell]

Lancer pings in my DOTA server 😦

[void grove]

if I were to branch out from being an underlord one trick, what would people recommend

[paper shell]

Depends on what you like about underlord

He's kinda a specific hero in the way his kit comes together

Depending on a few things another strength 3 would likely be the choice

[void grove]

yeah bruiser-y types are what I'm looking for

[paper shell]

Primal beast is pretty fun and has a nice low ult cooldow. He's a lot about snowballing in the early game

Timbersaw is also a bunch of fun but a decent amount more complex

Basically though, any hero in this list at this point

other than maybe like lifestealer lol

[void grove]

back in the day I played a bunch of earthshaker and magnataur too

[paper shell]

Earth sharker as a core is usually about hitting big hits with totem

and less about landing an amazing ults

Tho those do help

[vapid ledge]

is slardar not mentioned yet due to not his turn yet or is it a case of him being different enough from underlord's bruiser-ness?

[paper shell]

Not his turn 😛

He's in the big list there

Of "is a strength hero"

[void grove]

but if basically any hero in strength is fine then maybe I'll just pick one at random next time and start branching out

[paper shell]

The ones to avoid in 3 are probably,Elder titan, Ogre, Omni Lifestealer Sven alch treant WK CK

[willow topaz]

I thought omni 3 was kind of a thing? I believe in it more than ET probably

[paper shell]

most of them being too 1ey or to 4ey

[paper shell]

Its like a nonstandard thing and with his newest rework who knows

[willow topaz]

sure

[paper shell]

Really when it comes down to it the pos 3 brusier style is quite flexible

Underlord's ult and how Thijs has been playing it is a little unique and its hard to find a hero which has a similar playstyle

Though having a different playstyle is also good

so your hero pool isn't all the same strat

I suspect learning a "zoo" hero this patch might be worthwhile

[willow topaz]

yea, when someone takes the only role you know how to play that's rough

at least you can specialize a lot as long as you have a little backup plan

[void grove]

I'm not super attached to the underlord kit or anything

[glossy stratus]

I think Centaur is probably the least adjustment from Underlord

Since their laning is relatively similar and they both have limited global presence

[paper shell]

I'd probably agree, though thijs has been using underlord aghs to catch people with ult really well in the games I've seen

[glossy stratus]

But they still are quite different

[paper shell]

I could see dawnbreaker being a good analogous

[void grove]

I've played three games after 10 years of not playing, I'm not at a point where I care about hero diversity yknow

[glossy stratus]

I always forget about the aghs, it's so nice

[willow topaz]

the aghs feels super annoying to play against yea

[paper shell]

However, I think Thjis has a good "auras" hero already

[willow topaz]

probably means it's good

[paper shell]

and learning a blink init hero would be good

and a "zoo" hero

for 3 distinct play styles

Tide is nice because he can be aura and blink init

tho idk how good micro is

[void grove]

does zoo hero here mean one with like, multiple controllable things here

I was never a fan of those

[paper shell]

yeah

They can be simple depending

Enigma, lycan, beastmaster

if you're not a fan of the style tho no need to learn it

[willow topaz]

yea, very common for dota players to just refuse to play micro heroes

[void grove]

always worth trying out I suppose

[paper shell]

Having played a lot of enigma

[void grove]

I just remember not liking them

[paper shell]

the micro part is easy on him 🙂

[gritty sparrow]

I feel like veno core is more something you would take mid or or offlane, you don't exactly need all that farm priority when Veno's kill pressure begins at level 2 and only escalates from there

[paper shell]

select all eidolons, a click them down a lane

if you notice a hero trying to clear them run them away

[gritty sparrow]

The only zoo hero that I've really felt is complicated is Chen

[paper shell]

I'd agree

and maybe LD?

[glossy stratus]

I think it's not unreasonable to take it 1 if you have two other strong lanes, because shutting down their offlaner hard makes it really hard for the rest of their team to recover

But otherwise I'd agree

[gritty sparrow]

LD is easier the more you realize the old man and bear is more like

And old lady being pulled along by her pitbull

[willow topaz]

went to go find micro heroes, go to dotabuff and sort by most popular and go to the bottom and

yea that tracks

poor chen

[gritty sparrow]

Just let the pitbull maul some dude the old lady can go and sit down in a corner

[glossy stratus]

I think Ench can be pretty hard to learn, since the decision tree of "what creep do I want, do I settle for this one or waste time wandering the jungle finding a better one, etc" is extremely complex

[paper shell]

I agree ench is a very interesting zoo hero

[gritty sparrow]

tbh I didn't even think of ench

[paper shell]

but you can also ignore her zoo part and play her well

[willow topaz]

yea, I think if you want to play enchant getting full value out of her creep control she's complicated too, but I also see a lot of people^

[paper shell]

you wont be getting the most out of her

[willow topaz]

that

what about brood?

[glossy stratus]

The actual micro is a lot easier than Chen too

[willow topaz]

how are they?

[glossy stratus]

Brood is easy to play decently and has an infinitely high skill ceiling

[paper shell]

Secretly I wanted to encourage Thjis into playing heroes we don't play 🙂

[willow topaz]

fair enough

[glossy stratus]

Because spider scouting and pulling can be absurd

[void grove]

I'm happy to try anything honestly

[willow topaz]

ttime to queue for all random

trial by fire

[paper shell]

Just play ARD lobbies with us

[void grove]

I picked underlord as the one to get back into the game because it feels hard to mess up with a big aura and huge aoe roots

[glossy stratus]

I wish all random were still a default mode

[void grove]

but I think I got the flow again

[paper shell]

this is a good choice

[willow topaz]

same, I legitimately liked it a lot

[void grove]

so I can just play whatever

[glossy stratus]

Same, except when I rolled Meepo or Chen :P

[paper shell]

Become an Earth Spirit specialist 🙂

[void grove]

pivoting directly into becoming a meepo one trick account

[willow topaz]

earth spirit is so cool

I support this

[paper shell]

Right

I want to be that person

but I already speced into IO

and its too late to swap

[glossy stratus]

It is unfortunate that you're only allowed to play one hero in dota

[willow topaz]

it is

[paper shell]

Well I mean Earth spitrit is a hero you need to put a lot into

[glossy stratus]

Fair

[paper shell]

We need a huskar picker in pilotnet

Someone willing to do what needs to be done

[gritty sparrow]

I am not willing to place that taint on my soul

[vapid ledge]

i'm willing to play huskar but also i barely dota these days...

[willow topaz]

the only thing wrong with huskar pickers is that when they're on my team and I'm a healing support and they're wandering around the map at 40% health I'm never sure if I'm supposed to heal them or not

it''s very stressful

other than that huskar is fine

lol

[manic nimbus]

I think sandking is pretty fun these days though not the tankiest

I think mars and timber are both very fun and good

tide and cent are probably the most similar to underlord

tide these days has a super oppressive and funny shard

[paper shell]

I agree with all of this

[steel forge]

I think axe is pretty cool right now as well, and kinda fits in the big bruiser energy as well as being a blink dude

[reef parcel]

https://media.tenor.com/jwk5zOYKd6oAAAPo/chrono-requiem.mp4

[olive moon]

aye aye captain

[paper shell]

not you

[olive moon]

:(

[paper shell]

Though It probably suits your playstyle

[paper shell]

a classic

[glossy stratus]

The SF doesn't even have full souls for that play

[vapid ledge]

i now credit you for finding out that i'm not muted in the meeting

[willow topaz]

that's incredible

[manic nimbus]

its so big brain

[manic nimbus]

huskar pickers to me have to be loud Australian men that force fights constantly are cool if you join them and flame relentlessly anyone that doesn't fight

[reef parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> hey guys wanna dota? till and I are free

[olive moon]

yea

[delicate jungle]

Ye

[glossy stratus]

Can't catch game 1, but hopefully 2 or 3

[reef parcel]

hmm that's not 5

[cursive wing]

hi

[reef parcel]

okay let's go

[cursive wing]

@olive moon @delicate jungle five stack assemble!

https://tenor.com/view/voltron-linkup-gettogether-gif-5610318

[viscid tapir]

me

im late :(

[olive moon]

@real parcel

[viscid tapir]

@manic nimbus @reef parcelTill is stili in VC

[gritty sparrow]

Fixed Rubick not applying Death Rime damage when stealing Ancient Apparition's spells

https://tenor.com/view/abilities-get-ban-dota2-rubick-gif-25361581

Finally

[manic nimbus]

hmm yes good

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> imagine defending ancients.

[unborn isle]

ill be there

[viscid tapir]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone up to defend of the ancients?

[glossy stratus]

Ooh, Saturdotas

[stark linden]

i could be convinced if we have a full stack

[agile finch]

We could go for some defense of the ancients if you’re okay with a new person on the team

[viscid tapir]

sure

[glossy stratus]

I don't mind playing with a new player, though depending on how new it might be a good idea to do a bot match or two

[agile finch]

We’ve about a dozen normal matches already

[glossy stratus]

Oh okay that should be fine

[sturdy venture]

If I wanted to start learning a dps (role 1/3) is there a recommended hero to start with?

[viscid tapir]

@stark linden looks like we'll have a 5 stack

[stark linden]

!

[viscid tapir]

wiht some newer players if that's alright with you

[cursive wing]

I can coach up while afk

And then come back to give too late advice

[viscid tapir]

sounds good

[cursive wing]

glad i could help

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone down to defend?

[cursive wing]

what

[unborn isle]

uh, play dota

[real parcel]

could if there's a group for Dota.

[cursive wing]

I ate a disgusting British snack and then complained to Alan about it

[unborn isle]

its four hours later mabye the americans are awake for some <@&877973728997294120>

[unborn isle]

ill take it as no

[olive moon]

ill be around in a couple of hours

[unborn isle]

<(:)

[reef parcel]

Sorry, now that till is here I'm for sure kidnapping him and my squad for our own dota

[paper shell]

😠 how dare you

[reef parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> if two dotas fall in the forest and no-one is there to hear it

can we get 3 more for a 5 stack?

[stark linden]

hi hi

[uncut ridge]

hm

mayhaps

[real parcel]

could also mayhaps

[stark linden]

well be in voice :3

[glossy stratus]

I can dota in five mins

Or game 2 if you've already got a stack

[viscid tapir]

@glossy stratus @cursive wing if you two would like to play I'd be up to hop into a new VC

[glossy stratus]

I'd be up for that

[sturdy venture]

Is Disruptor suitable for pos 4 or 5?

[sturdy venture]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone around and interested in playing?

[real parcel]

+1

[cursive wing]

maybe

[gritty sparrow]

He can do both but more a 5 recently.

He tends to like cores that can do a lot to someone if they can't leave

Like Ursa

[real parcel]

well get on in here, eh? that gives us a 3 stack

[cursive wing]

ah i am busy =[

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> One more attempt to locate people?

[agile finch]

how long are you staying on

[sturdy venture]

I'll be arounbd for a few hours yet

[agile finch]

may be on soon if thats okay

we're working on a Cain character with our wife

[real parcel]

Vague time estimate, AKA should we just go with two or wait up?

[agile finch]

go with two for now

[unborn isle]

Oh alright im joining some dota then

[manic nimbus]

either but more often 5

[reef parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> we're looking for a fifth

[unborn isle]

ill be there

[uncut ridge]

damn just as I got into a Coh2 match

[reef parcel]

join us wizaard

[cursive wing]

HI

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> We do check to see if there are dota people.

[unborn isle]

Would love to but im done for today, in uhhhh 12 hours?

[viscid tapir]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone up for some games? Looking for 3 more

[uncut ridge]

maybe

I had a nap so

should be better this time round

[steel forge]

In the hinterlands (actually the hinterlands this time)

[viscid tapir]

alright I think we have 5

@uncut ridge @real parcel assemble!

[uncut ridge]

which hero or item combination is is a "fuck you" to phantom assassin?

[gritty sparrow]

Anything that applies "Break" or has a lot of armor

[willow topaz]

cores want mkb, supports can grab ghost scepter

[viscid tapir]

1. anyone who runs her down earlier in lane, or a team who just wins lane harder before she can snowball
2. viper maybe, as a BKB-piercing targeted break
3. Pugna has a pretty good ethereal spell

[manic nimbus]

pugna goes down a bit fast once she is online

its kinda up to your cores to manage her

[gritty sparrow]

Nullifer is also an item she doesn't super mind buying which lets her quickly go through that. I usually prefer the counters of like, Axe or PB

[reef parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> hey guys we're looking for a fifth. preference for a veteran stack, it's late and i'm snoozy

[real parcel]

happy to play, but preference.

[reef parcel]

understood, thanks for the heads up. if no-one else is around having a fifth is always better than otherwise

[gritty sparrow]

If you needed one I could do one(1) game

[reef parcel]

but yeah I'd love to wait to see if anyone else is around for - yeah sure sly

would love that

[gritty sparrow]

I burned myself like 2 minutes ago too so this will be fun

[reef parcel]

damn sly's on fire

[real parcel]

bigoted. Hateful. I'm going to go write a twitlonger about Winged's exclusionary practices.

[viscid tapir]

i'm around!

[gritty sparrow]

Grease burn!

[reef parcel]

sly if you're kinda 50/50 on jumping in, tom can be our fifth

[gritty sparrow]

Sure, put Tom in

[reef parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-red-bird-ntuni-stare-gif-22279645

[real parcel]

It just got longer, and now I'm going to set it to MCR music.

[reef parcel]

hicks if you'd like to jump into coach position and spectate I'm happy to wait a bit

[serene arrow]

wuewuewue

[real parcel]

No, I have a really overdramatic twitlonger to write and focus on ,

[reef parcel]

understood

[real parcel]

.... I can't find enough words that rhyme with 'tyrant'.

You win this round.

[steel forge]

Phantom… boxer? What is PB?

[gritty sparrow]

Primal Beast

[steel forge]

Ohhh

How does PB counter her?

[gritty sparrow]

BKB piercing disable, his aghs is a giant aoe break that lasts a while, and he likes building a lot of armor

[steel forge]

Oh right that thing does break

[gritty sparrow]

Less a direct counter and more he does a lot of things that PA would wish didn't happen

[steel forge]

That makes sense

I guess axe is just a very good blade mail body?

[paper shell]

Primal also sets a game pace, which Pa doean't like

[paper shell]

he forces people to attack him 🙂

[steel forge]

I do not know how to not sound snarky but that is what I meant, yeah

Just because like, the rest of axe’s kit seems pretty bad against PA, a carry who’s damage doesn’t really come from attack speed

I guess armour? I really don’t know

[gritty sparrow]

It's the armor

Axe just gets a huge amount of free armor

PA is going to spend most of the game dealing very little damage to him while even when she gets bkb he can taunt her

[steel forge]

Does armour like, directly give %damage resist, or are there diminishing returns on it?

[gritty sparrow]

There are diminishing returns. But when axe is getting armor from his passive, his taunt and just likes building armor, it's a lot

Plus his aghs reduces attack damage

PA also almost always builds Desolator and +armor beats -armor in most cases

[glossy stratus]

I'd like to hop in if y'all are still playing in 30ish

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> Gauging interest in Defending.

[cursive wing]

maybe

[unborn isle]

if ya wanna do now im down

[reef parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> hey guys, me and till and tom are looking to form a dota stack. preference for a veteran stack this afternoon 👀

anyone interested in just headbutting the ladder for a game

oh! jenny's free in 15

[stark linden]

As said in other places
I'll be around in like 15 :p

[reef parcel]

sure :3

well then we're looking for a fifth

[unborn isle]

should i prioritize dota or lancer

[reef parcel]

if you've got a lancer game definitely lancer o/

[unborn isle]

i ended up in the goose pit so im stuck here for 3 hours

[reef parcel]

we'll do a 4 stack

lancer good

[cursive wing]

yes

[viscid tapir]

...what is this "yes" to?

[gritty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-rick-morty-snap-gif-5747281

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> an attempt is being made to solicit interest in a Dota stack.

[stark linden]

got parents visiting so i need to go sleep soon sadly

[delicate jungle]

i could play

[cursive wing]

i dont have time anymore

[glossy stratus]

I've been too dead for Dota this week

[paper shell]

rip

[steel forge]

ah, I was going to dota ping but it seems the dota spirit today has been expended

[glossy stratus]

I intend to be more functional tomorrow! But I might pass out in my respawn timer today :P

[viscid tapir]

we've got an impromptu neb party if you'd like to come join that

[steel forge]

unfortunately I do not have nebulous installed atm

but I do appreciate the invite :)

[reef parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> speaking of the dota spirit, any last takers? we have a 4 stack

[delicate jungle]

including tom?

i can go

[real parcel]

I'd be in

[reef parcel]

yeah, it's me + till + tom + alex right now

[real parcel]

rip

[delicate jungle]

ill let hicksu hop in

[reef parcel]

o/

[delicate jungle]

i gotta finish up acts in poe

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> would then there be interest in ANOTHER dota stack? (in like 20mins)

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> Any interest in US AM Dota?

[cursive wing]

maybe

[real parcel]

Well, seeing relative lack of response, I'm likely to fire a solo unless there's word soon.

[unborn isle]

If youre still up for it?

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> hello hello americans anyone down for some dota?

[glossy stratus]

Alas, work

[unborn isle]

alas

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone have time to play in about 30 mins?

[olive moon]

sure'

[unborn isle]

Yey:) ill finish making breakfast and ill be ready by then

[sturdy venture]

@olive moon you joining?

[olive moon]

ye

[sturdy venture]

Live Laugh Love Gambit

[cursive wing]

<@&877973728997294120> new player stack with some amateur coaching is forming. all noobs very encouraged to join.

[paper shell]

Yeah but what if Alan you and I played 3v5

[cursive wing]

we have 3 noobs in

[paper shell]

Oh

2v4

[cursive wing]

brb finding an up to date dota2 6v6 arcade map that also doesnt have mtx and has actively filling lobbies

[paper shell]

Would be fun but probably unlikely

2v2v2

[cursive wing]

2v2v2 reverse captains mode draft 5 pick 2

[paper shell]

That doesn’t exist

2v2v2 does though I believe

[olive moon]

i would love to do a 3v5 inhouse vs the new players

[cursive wing]

which one of us gets to pick necrophos

or can i go pudge and feed to make it interesting

[olive moon]

we might have to let them ban a few heroes

[cursive wing]

we could do CM

captains mode i mean

[olive moon]

yeah that might be good

or just give them 10 bans before an all pick

[cursive wing]

although draft 5 play 3 is a big theoretical advantage

[paper shell]

Someday my pc will turn on

[olive moon]

they didnt invent electricity in canada yet?

[paper shell]

I should really disconnect the faulty hard drive lol

[cursive wing]

those can be so bad

[gritty sparrow]

I finally play ranked and the game to put me in ancient suddenly died and kicked everyone out

Gaben is afraid of my power.

[reef parcel]

Oh wait @serene arrow do you have the role?

You should totally join newbie stacks

[serene arrow]

I do

[reef parcel]

Ah gotcha

Back to bed for me zzz

[cursive wing]

@serene kiln

[viscid tapir]

@serene kiln @indigo nest

[serene kiln]

shyeah im def hopping back on

[serene kiln]

is dota 2 a game thats worth solo queueing ?

[steel forge]

I would say yes, but ymmv

mute early, mute often

[viscid tapir]

new Omni is fun

[void grove]

he seemed good

we really blasted that lane

[manic nimbus]

he seemed great

[steel forge]

huh, neat

oh guardian angel is an aoe now

[void grove]

I'm having a lot of fun with grimstroke

first support that has really clicked for me in lane

[viscid tapir]

yeah it's a bit weird

there was one point where I tried to ult me and the supports, but Thijs got lifted out of the AoE and I missed myself

so I just whiffed the ult on nobody

but I think it's pretty cool

[steel forge]

hammer also has more dps, right?

[manic nimbus]

I think it has less iirc?

[viscid tapir]

it's less damage, but it's got a shorter cooldown

[manic nimbus]

hmmm

yeah

[steel forge]

yeah that's what I meant, just couldn't think of a clearer way to communicate it

[manic nimbus]

hmm yeah

I'm not sure what the build is for him

I suspect like harpoon + auras

[viscid tapir]

yeah, you still like running people down

I'm interested in trying the damage amp aura

but you're no longer 2-shotting supports with Khanda + Hammer

I think he still likes harpoon as a "get them into degen aura range" option

and I've liked Boots of Bearing, though Phase are also probably good

[manic nimbus]

yeah

I can see a greaves build being relevant sometimes

but yeah the hero is closer to a traditional 3

[viscid tapir]

I'm really glad he's just good again

and not whatever weird unplayable mess he was before

still annoyed that Repel doesn't dispel

but I get why

[real parcel]

Any interest in another game, assorted people?

[manic nimbus]

I'm done for the moment not sure about others

[olive moon]

@ TomZero

[serene kiln]

dota solo queue adventure number 1

wish me luck o7

[viscid tapir]

just because I check this thread all the time anyway doesn't mean you don't have to ping me

also what's the "broken" veno build

[olive moon]

i thought u were asleep lol, didnt wanna wake u up if discord makes sound on ur phone

aghs + whatever

[viscid tapir]

I should be

and yet

also there's @silent for that

@olive moon like this

though probably less of an example when you're actually looking at the channel

[olive moon]

@viscid tapir huh

thats cool

[viscid tapir]

anyway aghs is like 4th or 5th item

[olive moon]

need to be careful not to @ any of the 15 people called silent in this discord

[viscid tapir]

there's so many other ways to get the damage buff

lol

[olive moon]

gl hf

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> so uh is there anyone thats going to queue(?) in the next 30 mins?

[serene kiln]

played witch doctor from my wonderful friends suggestion

had. a lot of fun actually

[olive moon]

this solar crest np thing might be free mmr

[olive moon]

<@&877973728997294120> any gamers?

[reef parcel]

me and till are probably gonna steal our local friends into a squad

[steel forge]

I am around if we get a stack, but I'm a bit too sleep deprived for many pubbies today I think (I got sucked into my yearly replay of universal paperclips at like, 9pm last night)

[cursive wing]

wat

[cursive wing]

yo

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> another spin on making a Dota stack?

[real parcel]

We have 2 atm, looking to fill out a stack before mashing the go button.

[cursive wing]

<@&877973728997294120> I'm microwaving fried chicken but let's queue some Dota2 in about 10 minutes

[real parcel]

hell yeah chicken

[delicate jungle]

Chickm

[agile finch]

we cant join for the night, but we hope your chicken is awesome!

[delicate jungle]

mayb

[cursive wing]

@meager hatch

[real parcel]

Tag me for game 2? Doing a thing

[steel forge]

@olive moon what is up?

[delicate jungle]

<@&877973728997294120> gamers?

anyone wanna defend some ancients?

[cursive wing]

hu

hi

[delicate jungle]

<@&877973728997294120> any more?

@real parcel would you like. to play

[reef parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mURH_2yjo00 fans taking over hots

[delicate jungle]

Wait did hots like die or something?

Intercontinental ballistic owls?

[cursive wing]

it's been in maintenance mode for a long time

[delicate jungle]

I see

[cursive wing]

oh looks like this is a s2 arcade map

[delicate jungle]

I wonder how long till blizzard c&ds them

[cursive wing]

i dont think that will happen

iirc blizzard "owns" every sc2 arcade map

[delicate jungle]

Wait so this is in sc2?

[cursive wing]

yes

its a sc2 arcade map

[delicate jungle]

Wow

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> so anyone down for some early morning dota while we wait for the americans

[cursive wing]

as an american

you need not wait

[cursive wing]

guess the hero: wizard soap's teammate edition

[serene kiln]

YESYESYESYESYEYSYESYESYESYEYES

YESYESYEYSYEYESYESYEYS

OH MY GOD THE LIKE TWELVE HOTS FANS

[olive moon]

everyone wanted to play dota after i fell asleep :(

u should all move to europe for my convenience

[cursive wing]

furion + dawnbreaker lets him farm the entire map

[reef parcel]

@manic nimbus @serene arrow ^

[serene arrow]

Ahh, I see

Gotta time it, though

[reef parcel]

Yeah

[steel forge]

dawnbreaker's innate is really cool

I wish it was less tragic trying to fit dawnbreaker and underlord into the same draft

[serene arrow]

dawnbreaker and spirit breaker, however

[steel forge]

Yeah, spectre too

[olive moon]

its good

[manic nimbus]

dear god

[delicate jungle]

ping me when dota

[paper shell]

You could probably play dawnbreaker as a 5

[steel forge]

Huh, I didn't know dawn could do well without gold

[serene arrow]

well, if you simply kill the enemies a lot

that adds up to a decent amount of gold

[steel forge]

honestly I could see underlord 1, it's pretty sweet if you keep the tempo up

[serene arrow]

and the stun is just kinda a lot early, and with a cheap Soul Ring to provide mana...

[steel forge]

I am not at all a dawn player, but I can see it

[steel forge]

also like... silencer?

[glossy stratus]

I hope not Silencer, since he doesn't have any unit-targeted spells to proc Khanda nowadays

[steel forge]

My instinct was OD, not because it would make sense, but because that's the kind of OD inventory I would pkay with

but that made a bit too little sense

[glossy stratus]

I could see it on Hoodwink maybe?

[steel forge]

maybe, yeah

If I throw away the idea of it being an int hero I can almost see it being sniper

[glossy stratus]

The lack of aghs made me dismiss that, but maybe there's an aghs blessing?

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> Any interest in a dota stack?

[glossy stratus]

I could Dote in a minute if we get a 5 stack

[delicate jungle]

yeh

[gritty sparrow]

You go the Gleaming Hammer facet and build aghs and locket

[steel forge]

I will also dote if we acquire 5

[steel forge]

I see

[olive moon]

we have 4 with you 2

[real parcel]

yeah, that'd be me/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA/Lark/Tron.

only requires stealing one more personality.

addendum, that's now 5 with the addition of punch

cowards

[olive moon]

@steel forge @glossy stratus thats 5

[gritty sparrow]

I personally don't think it's amazing but you can do it, I wouldn't think you're trolling with Dawn 4/5. I think 4 is more appropriate cause you still want items, but in true Dawn fashion you can be farming in the corner of the map and be useful by being an ult bot

Then with aghs you throw your hammer on your carry and they gain 60% evasion

[manic nimbus]

I think you could mid the underlord or dawn

if you had a good enough player

[gritty sparrow]

I haven't done that yet but that sounds funny

Imagine you try to harass at level 4 and suddenly the sky opens up to dawnbreaker coming to beat you to death

[manic nimbus]

I think in both cases you would want some long duration disables that can set up in a side lane

like a bane or a clock or something, and just use the global to hit other lanes

[steel forge]

I could see dawn, yeah

[manic nimbus]

I have seen underlord in pro games very occasionally last patch

though I think thats a mitigating getting counterpicked thing

[steel forge]

<@&877973728997294120> we are seeking a 5th

[steel forge]

I'm honestly kinda suprised by that in the deathball aura meta

[paper shell]

🤔

[manic nimbus]

I mean the mid underlord can buy auras

[paper shell]

@steel forge you Alive?

[delicate jungle]

@viscid tapir how tough is phoenix?

[viscid tapir]

health management can be tricky, spells definitely need you to understand how they work, and there's some hard counterpicks (snapfire, silencer) that can be rough, but overall not that complicated

[sturdy venture]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone up for a game?

[glossy stratus]

A bit late for me now

[sturdy venture]

<@&877973728997294120> check for a stack of any size

[unborn isle]

is i am here

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> two more, can we get two more

[unborn isle]

in <t:1723482000:R> anyone up to play some dota?

[olive moon]

might be on an hour after that

[unborn isle]

i might aswell be late as helldivers was more timeconsuming than i thought

[unborn isle]

alright finally done <@&877973728997294120>?

[indigo nest]

Huh what

[viscid tapir]

were you not the genesis playing dota

there's probably a lot

sorry

[reef parcel]

money in politics

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> any stack of any size

[serene kiln]

you still playin ? im down down

[unborn isle]

aw hell yeah

[serene kiln]

rad rad rad

ill pop in in just a second, gonna take these dishes out

[unborn isle]

np

[reef parcel]

https://youtu.be/IY0m66FdKjM I really dislike Jenkins presentation style but here's a video on the new split push np

[paper shell]

Despite the “unique” style he has, his information is usually pretty good

@olive moon after playing solar crest prophet I can say it’s pretty good, especially with the dawn breaker farm surge 😛

[reef parcel]

his information is good but god I hate him

dislike every video

[olive moon]

time to lose win lose win lose win lose win lose win lose win for 2 weeks

[olive moon]

did you do the kaya steal all the creeps build

[paper shell]

No I was a support so I didn’t get all the creeps

[serene arrow]

oh that's why your gold was so insanely high

[paper shell]

But I did get a lot of money anyways

[paper shell]

Honestly a lot of it came from just pushing lanes

[viscid tapir]

as much as I am rooting for you, I am also rooting against you so that I can be the first one to divine

amazing start

[glossy stratus]

Y'know what, I'll take a lane of two civil cores over a quarrelsome core/support duo any day of the week

[gritty sparrow]

[serene kiln]

hey has anybody else had any issues with connection

i just landed a damn 30 minute timer because the game is telling me my connection isnt good enough despite never getting into the actual damn game

ill get to character select and almost load in and then the game boots me and all i want to do is play

[manic nimbus]

been fine for me other than once it deciding I had not readied up when I had and putting me in jail for 4 minutes

[serene kiln]

ok

i dont know where id like

go with this issue

like i dont even know if itll fix or how itll fix

like my connection is fine has been fine and continues to be fine

the game literally just decided i wasnt going to load in before character select even happened

[manic nimbus]

hmmm I think someone else had this problem might have been tron?

or was having

[olive moon]

we were having some super cursed matchmaking after maintenance yesterday where people couldnt see the accept match button and got the 3 min queue ban

i think dota might just be a bit weird rn

[steel forge]

@glossy stratus was having a similar problem I think

[olive moon]

@viscid tapir @cursive wing first one to divine?

[gritty sparrow]

I was playing ranked finally since all my dota friends were busy

Or injured.

But then I got distracted by deadlock before doing anything

I do want to see how much I can do with just spamming Rubick and Techies

[olive moon]

hey you're 100% welcome to join the mmr race I just pinged the 2 people with the same rank as me

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> any stack of any size?

[serene kiln]

trying to fix my connection issue before hopping back on

[real parcel]

could.

[serene kiln]

found somebody saying deleting my bin folder and verifying files would get it fixed so im trying that

[cursive wing]

does anyone have advice on how i should win more ranked games?

[unborn isle]

i may have a hypothesis ☝️ 🤓

also in that vein more <@&877973728997294120> anyone?

[paper shell]

Care less about stacking permanent int 😉

And care more about stacking permanet ult damage

[steel forge]

get better at silencer

[unborn isle]

@serene kiln heyo, will you be joining us?

[serene kiln]

my bad man i was in snoozeville

[glossy stratus]

I had this issue as well, it's a known bug introduced in 7.36: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/17942

Some of the solutions in that thread and others helped a bit but didn't reliably fix it for me, moving Dota to an SSD is what finally resolved it on my end

[viscid tapir]

https://www.dota2.com/patches/7.37b

<@&877973728997294120>

gameplay patch

[olive moon]

removed tinker

pls

[paper shell]

Im suprised it stacked in the first place

Storm coulda been building Kaya, Yasha Kaya, Kaya and Sange and Meteor Hammer

[olive moon]

more darkseer nerfs whats wrong with you icefraud

[paper shell]

This is a nice QOL

No Damage

Someone make the meme

[viscid tapir]

@stark linden Cleft Death buff!

[stark linden]

neat!

[serene kiln]

hop skip jumping on in

[cursive wing]

What does this mean

[woeful nimbus]

Speed only when using the ability I assume

[steel forge]

Im so happy that sk has gone unchanged

He feels so good atm

[manic nimbus]

yes

I have tried the radience into agh build

not super sold on it

[steel forge]

That doesn’t sound very good

[viscid tapir]

🤔

[gritty sparrow]

He's cooking

[paper shell]

Gotta be better than enchantress mid

She can’t mid she’s a support

[delicate jungle]

@real parcel we r 4

we r 3

<@&877973728997294120> need 2 more

[real parcel]

just one moment

[delicate jungle]

need 1 more

[steel forge]

How’d you get into one of my lobbies tom

[olive moon]

so far today ive had a mid morph, AM and spectre

and i played against a mid medusa yesterday

people just wanna be carries in the mid lane i guess

[viscid tapir]

and a mid enchantress

the worst of all

[cursive wing]

I played against a mid flow morph

We won but it was very annoying because we had a dark willow and his shadow realm was permanent

[manic nimbus]

it kinda seemed to make sense in theory

aoe damage is your thing and it adds damage to the epi hits I guess

[glossy stratus]

Radiance doesn't seem unreasonable, he's very tanky nowadays and the evasion just adds to that

But I'm skeptical of aghs before Bloodstone, the latter gives you so much everything

[manic nimbus]

yeah

I think its also that like

its too much time to get your core items

a radi then an agh then a blink is a lot

to have your basic kit ish

[paper shell]

This is an interesting concept in AD

[unborn isle]

just woke up anyone down for some <@&877973728997294120> ?

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> in about an hour any stack of any size?

[reef parcel]

No dota for meee

Sending till to Toronto today

[steel forge]

hoo boy guess this hero

[viscid tapir]

is it you

on brewmaster

other bad guesses include: is it ursa getting even more radius on earthshock

or perhaps io

[noble tusk]

omniknight

[viscid tapir]

I am spectating Tron's game

the answer is ||Witch Doctor||

[noble tusk]

oh no

[viscid tapir]

y'know what, after seeing the ridiculous ||massive AoE Maledict|| I think it's fine actually

[steel forge]

look we won and they got mvp so

if it's dumb and works, is it really dumb (yes)

[glossy stratus]

I assume with ||Festeration||? I actually don't entirely hate it

The AoE and heal both get solid value

Still unsure if it increases ||cask bounce radius||

That OoV should probably be a Bracer or something though

[steel forge]

it was with ||festeration|| yeah

in a draft that needed what that brought to the table it's not the worst inventory I've ever seen

unfortunately we could've really used a ||support doing support things||

we carried it off though so who knows

[olive moon]

any gamers wanna play 1 before i go to bed?

[glossy stratus]

Would that I could

[gritty sparrow]

Aoe bonus effects bounce range or spells like Arc Lightning and Fade Bolt, yes

[cursive wing]

shoulda pung

[unborn isle]

then im pinging NOW <@&877973728997294120> STACK TIME

[steel forge]

@olive moon you're the spectre player, do you have any tips for the hero? I finally had a good game as her but I feel like I could've done way better

[cursive wing]

I think spectre has a few build modes to consider

some games you an get orchid, manta, nullifier, etc and pickoff their supports constnatly

some games they dont have enough damage to kill you if you buy butterfly heart sny

some games they will just all die if you buy aghs and press haunt after buying a bunch of agility items

dispersion is so amazingly good

20% damage reduction AND the damage reduced becomes damage

so something like heart represents a large amount of additional damage over the course of a teamfight because of how much it increases your effective hit pool

[steel forge]

that makes sense

my biggest question is what her actual farming item is

[cursive wing]

blademail

[steel forge]

that's very sad

[cursive wing]

i think it's really fun farming as specture

[steel forge]

it's what I got in the last game and like, it worked, but it felt really really bad until I got radiance

[cursive wing]

blademail+dispersion means you want to fight camps in a way where they all die at the same time

because if one creep dies and then the others die 5 seconds later that creep could have been hitting blademail to damage itself

and it could have been damaging all the other creeps with disperson

for this reason spectre really thrives in mighty mines

blademail allows you to farm ancient stacks pretty quickly, although you might need a bit of backup to help you sustain your hp

[gritty sparrow]

Falcon blade, blademail, max your dagger and harass your offlane to go be useful and gank someone so you can steal the kill with Shadow Step

You might think "that seems like a dick move" no one cares about kill stealing in dota and if they did you're the p1

[steel forge]

yeah I was trying my best to shadow step off cooldown, and it did get me quite a bit of gold

[gritty sparrow]

My favorite part of spectre is haunt and shadow step

I love doing fancy teleporting plays

Yesterday someone was doing the armlet+dagon+blink terrorblade meme against my team

And as soon as I got haunt I would just press it randomly and watch him die across the map cause he was at 1 hp

[steel forge]

that's very fun

[olive moon]

hero is ass dont pick it

blademail + radiance is usually good if u can get both at some normal timing, blademail lets you farm stacks and ancients and radiance is all around really good for what spec wants to do (scale into lategame, be tanky)

you can go orchid first or after blademail instead if getting one means you can kill people. it's not a good farming item but a 14 min orchid isn't that hard to get and it destroys heros like AM or jugg who dont want to rush manta but need to get their spells off to survive in fights

manta is your damage item because illusions get desolate and desolate is the think that kills people (also really good for roshing)

nullifier purges euls/ghost/force/glimmer so your haunt target doesnt get saved

butterfly increases your damage by way more than you think and if you have a hp item (heart, shroud, skadi) it makes you really tanky

[steel forge]

that all makes sense

what kind of heroes on your team do you think spectre works well with?

[olive moon]

your aghs gives a ton of vision so it used to be really good with storm and tinker but now you need to buy it

(also, buy aghs when you have a storm on your team its really cool, just dont get it so early u cant do anything yourself)

now i think spec is great with kill heroes who need a +1

so like

nyx is really cool

because you can come kllsteal/secure the vendetta kills pre dagon

strong offlane that's gonna have enemies on low hp a lot

anything that lets you jump in to participate in easy kills around level 6

also heroes that secure your absolutely ass laning stage

undying warlock jakiro etc

[steel forge]

awesome, thanks :)

[unborn isle]

any tips for better lich gameplay/gameplan?

also anyone wanna play some <@&877973728997294120> w me?

[jaunty spruce]

I'm down if you're doing ranked and in my crappy bracket lol

[unborn isle]

oh no sorry i havent played enough dota to have ranked

[olive moon]

whats ur crappy bracket lol

[delicate jungle]

any more?

[jaunty spruce]

Crusader

[cursive wing]

crusader is a lot better than plenty of regulars here

[steel forge]

finally I work up the nerve to play a ranked game again

I've already had my shadow shaman pos1 game today, I don't deserve this

[olive moon]

im gonna hang out in my <@&877973728997294120> channel if anyone wants to play soon

[unborn isle]

ill be there

gotta finish a passtime match

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> anyone?

[reef parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPRT-E8D6qA <@&877973728997294120>

[reef parcel]

wait I'll add this to the previous timer pin

[cursive wing]

<@&877973728997294120> it is sunday morning in north america that means it's time for our religous gathering in the form of ancient defending

[unborn isle]

uhhh sure

[olive moon]

ill join next if ur playing another

[reef parcel]

Haha go forth and spread the word. I'm currently in vacation mode

[cursive wing]

@olive moon ok

[steel forge]

why of all things is razor's eye of the storm physical damage

[glossy stratus]

Because it reduces armor, so it synergizes with itself

And because it hits buildings with aghs

[steel forge]

I more mean in the internal "logic" of dota

like

it's a lightning bolt

I understand mechanically why it's just confusing

more accurately I now understand why

[glossy stratus]

Because the spell just creates the storm, the lightning is nonmagical

(I'm pretty sure the actual reason is just mechanical)

[steel forge]

I have some questions about the spell nimbus :P

[viscid tapir]

the Zeus one?

also <@&877973728997294120> anyone up for some games?

[glossy stratus]

I could do a Dote

[paper shell]

My favourite bot

[reef parcel]

https://youtu.be/uZM-45Sl85s <@&877973728997294120>

[gritty sparrow]

Oh yeah

I forgot something

I managed to cliff the enemy carry in my game as Rubick the other day

for 4 minutes

[gritty sparrow]

Side note: while we were keeping him prisoner the enemy broodmother took out t1 and t2 safelane towers and killed our p5 3 times.

Both p1s were so corncobbed in lane the game went for 67 minutes while they became real heroes

[fathom bolt]

Finally, a video guide for which hero to play that's not an hour long

[reef parcel]

https://youtu.be/9llGbyCCqUM

[paper shell]

I was about to post this myself

[viscid tapir]

for comparison, here's Tron's inventory at the moment

Tron I like the parts of this game where your Sven just hits everything and everyone dies

[steel forge]

yeah I like when he does that too

[serene arrow]

it is pretty good

[steel forge]

would you believe this inventory wins games?

I wouldn't

and yet here we are

[viscid tapir]

to be fair it had a few more items by the end

[steel forge]

while that is true

no I have no explantion

we were so far ahead

I don't understand how we lost

I mean I do, I can point to the many instances that lost us the game

but nevertheless we really shouldn't have

[karmic grove]

I've seen Michael Rosen live once, he's very funny

[olive moon]

michael rosen went to my school so he visited a bunch to talk to us, was super cool

[real parcel]

Someone persuade me that Jungle Venom is griefing.

Because it seems funny, but does seem like it's not good, and I need a reason not to.

[willow topaz]

the thing about junglers is not only do you have to get good enough farm to keep you competitive with your lanes, you need to do so well that it makes up for almost guaranteed losing whichever sideline is now a 1v2 very badly

and that's really hard

[manic nimbus]

yeah basically

I think the payoff has to be huge

I did see an interesting veno mid game in a pro game where the veno spammed wards on himself that seemed kinda good

it definitely looked like it shoved waves hard and was annoying to trade with

[steel forge]

<@&877973728997294120> anybody feel like a game?

[real parcel]

+1

[viscid tapir]

I can play

[agile finch]

hihi

thatd be cool

we're in a lancing

but we'd love to doter after!

[glossy stratus]

The question here isn't "can I get farm", it's "can I get enough farm to offset one of my team basically not having a game, and two of their team getting absolute freefarm"

Alas, no Dotes for me tonight

[viscid tapir]

how long will that be?

[agile finch]

approx 30m-1hr

[viscid tapir]

ah, so post game 1

[reef parcel]

I might be able to join you in your next game

[agile finch]

indeed!

[cursive wing]

i also dibsnext

[agile finch]

oop do you guys already have a 5 stack?

[viscid tapir]

I have stepped out

so there's not 5

but also it looks like the other stack has dissipated

[real parcel]

we got hit with the 'one person left' dissolving momentum

[agile finch]

hope it was a good game!!

[unborn isle]

<@&877973728997294120> quick please while i still have free time

[gritty sparrow]

Sorry dota canceled

It's joever

You'll have to be a smite 2 player now

[honest idol]

All dota clients will now boot up Deadlock

[unborn isle]

ah, (tbh id like to try deadlock)

[cursive wing]

invite sent

[unborn isle]

Oooh

[cursive wing]

IDK how long it will take to get in

For some people I've invited it was under 24h

For some it was literal months

[unborn isle]

yeah, anyway thank you so much for this, i really appreciate this

[paper shell]

I think it’s because you messed up my original invite somehow

[unborn isle]

uhh but still is anyone down to play <@&877973728997294120> ?

[real parcel]

<@&877973728997294120> Anyone round interested in a game of dota?

currently 2/5, hoping to find at least a 3rd

[unborn isle]

Would you still have time for dota in 7 hours?

[unborn isle]

still down for some <@&877973728997294120> ?

[real parcel]

could do, if there's people.

[woeful nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[olive moon]

u gotta kill those creeps they disable backdoor protection if u leave them there

[manic nimbus]

pog

[steel forge]

🎉

[viscid tapir]

heck

but also

congrats

and the congrats is much more sincere than the heck

[olive moon]

tom immediately in a ranked game lol

[cursive wing]

damn

[olive moon]

tough game'

[viscid tapir]

yeah

[steel forge]

ember spirit 😔

[viscid tapir]

but if you're watching

<@&877973728997294120> anyone up to play

[cursive wing]

ok

[delicate jungle]

I could 1 match

[stark linden]

eating but am around if we have afull stack?

[steel forge]

I am currently suffering for my sins of dinner but I could catch game 2

[viscid tapir]

sins of a dinner empire

rebellion

[steel forge]

the rebellion is my digestion, I think

[noble tusk]

din(ners) of a solar empire

[steel forge]

dindins of a solar empire

[stark linden]

if you have 5 with punch ill sit out and enjoy my food ~w~

[viscid tapir]

sins of a solar dinner if you're a plant

anyway on the exceedingly small chance there's a SoaSE player lurking here but not in Strategy club, we're planning a game this weekend in and talking about it in#1275894387754405938

[viscid tapir]

https://www.dota2.com/international2024

<@&877973728997294120>

new hero

[delicate jungle]

YOOOOO

RINGMASTER REAL

[viscid tapir]

new hero who can put them in a box

[pearl chasm]

Timeout

I like the hero, the weakest part to me is the ult, at least so far as the flavor of it

[serene kiln]

yeah he looks rad as hell

[reef parcel]

omg damn

[steel forge]

sorry everyone my internet is exploding under the strain of trying to download and speak

this guy seems pretty cool, though a bit less weird than I was expecting

[reef parcel]

omg

they literally gave him a box

od had box and now they give a guy a literal box

:C

[steel forge]

this is a friends-only box at least

[glossy stratus]

It's not a real box anyway

It doesn't banish

[reef parcel]

oh wait

okay i'm happy

it's just one of those willow style shroud effects

omg spotlight is hilarious

[glossy stratus]

My question is if it hits CK illusions

Because if so, RIP CK

[steel forge]

spotlight is a brewmaster-tier anti illusion tech it seems

also an eight second aoe blind I guess

[viscid tapir]

funhouse mirror giving blizzard-tier pauldrons