He's too proud I think
#Cyberpunk 2077
toxic prism
I don't think he even has any augments beyond life extending stuff
||Also didn't the Relic have the capacity to hold an AI in it, which is one of the reasons Netwatch got involved?||
||I recall discussion about AIs wanting to use the relic in V to basically enter the "real world" via possessing them||
I do wonder if Yorinobu knew about V's plans and whatnot, what he would do
Would he lend a hand, would he be opposed. Etc
I'm sure he knee of V, given she was known as being the one who killed the Emperor or whatever, but beyond that I'm curious how much he knew
Being Arasaka's CEO, potentially a lot
(If it wasn't apperant, I do wish Yorinobu was more present in the game as opposed to a distant figure)
(We only really get to know him via Evelyn and the Devil ending)
(I hope he shows up in the Sequel, assuming he survived)
swift mist
probably too busy politicking and keeping up the masquerade to do much for them anyway. arasaka is very fractioned
toxic prism
True
||I do wonder if that's intentional on his part, given his plan is basically "Fuck Arasaka imma bring the roof down"||
||He hasn't changed much since the 2020s, he just realized being an Edgerunner was dumb and ineffective, and went for the tried and true method of bringing it down from the inside||
swift mist
see tyger claws, arasaka is just that big
toxic prism
||which, tbf, he succeeds in basically all endings except the Devil||
toxic prism
see tyger claws, arasaka is just that big
And true
Which reminds me
I wonder if the Valentinos are going to go the route of 6th Street
soft oak
He took the wheels of the company and steered it immediately to the closest iceberg
toxic prism
Cause 6th Steet started as a Community Militia around 2045ish, protecting the community and whatnot
And devolved into the Cartel version as of 2077
Valentinos remind me a bit of the 2045 version
finite willow
finally satisfied with how my V looks, for once
soft oak
I do like that his current plan amounts to “start fifth corporate war ??? Corpos gone”
toxic prism
They're the ideal of a cartel, still criminals but they support their community in their own way, have some honor, etc
While Barghest and 6th are more like, actual cartels (especially Barghest)
soft oak
V says that with the current state of the two companies should a fifth corporate war start, Militech would tear out arasaka’s throat
toxic prism
V says that with the current state of the two companies should a fifth corporate...
||In the Tower ending, Militech replaces Arasaka in Night City||
||And basically becomes even stronger without their arch enemy||
soft oak
And yet it’s militech who’s trying to avert fifth corporate war lmao
toxic prism
Ywah
||Though the Tower implies one is coming, iirc||
||Which makes me wonder if Yorinobu wants a time like RED, where the corps were weakened and less powerful, being worn out by war and whatnot||
||Again, I really wish we knew more about Yorinobu||
toxic prism
And yet it’s militech who’s trying to avert fifth corporate war lmao
Also I think that's because, despite being an arms manufacturer (among other things), they know war is costly and inefficient
soft oak
Yeah
toxic prism
At least the ones they're involved in
They have no problems supplying arms to others of course
Plus there's the whole thing about how Militech and the NUSA are one in the same
soft oak
I think he’s hoping to destabilize current status quo in hopes that a better one has a chance to emerge
toxic prism
I remember the discussion we had last night (maybe in the tabletop chat) about how RED has a theme of Edgerunners being basically ineffective at best and often perpetuating the problems of society
Which is why a lot of older Edgerunners retire and/or "sell.out"
soft oak
Well yeah that’s more or less my impression from cyberpunk 2077 as well
toxic prism
Because they realize they're often hurting more than helping
Given Yorinobu was an Edgerunner himself i wonder if he went through a similar realizatikn
Which may be why he went back to Saburo and Arasaka
But he never lost his "spirit"
He just became more pragmatic about it
And subtle
finite willow
||Though the Tower implies one is coming, iirc||
this makes me wonder if Orion is going to jump forward to either the buildup to the 5th war or the kickoff itself. and if so, who besides Arasaka would even stand a chance. Kang Tao? Tsunami? maybe some of the resource megacorps, even
soft oak
Most of the gigs don’t really offer a solution for most anyone or furthers corporate skullduggery. Edgerunners are more or less an integrated part of NC economy at this point
finite willow
because Militech sounds like it has all the weight to throw around right now
toxic prism
I think he’s hoping to destabilize current status quo in hopes that a better one...
And yeah, that makes sense
Again, he never lost his rebel spirit. He just became more.pragmatic and subtle about it
he wanted to destabilize the system from the inside
Because he realized being a motor gang leader edgerunner rockerboy wasn't doing much
toxic prism
this makes me wonder if Orion is going to jump forward to either the buildup to ...
My guesses for Orions's stuff are:
AI/Blackwall related stuff
Militech dominance
Continuation of whatever the fuck is going on with the Blue Eyed people (potentially related to my first guess)
Also potentially V as a Legend of Night City
If we don't play as V, I can see V still being important plot wise
soft oak
Anyways Yorinobu is associated with the Emperor tarot
Which does imply to me his personality is more or less “this is my vision of the world and it shall happen, damn the consequences.”
toxic prism
I thought he was the Moon?
soft oak
Given you find it in Hanako’s residence I think she’s the Moon
toxic prism
The Moon also means illusion, in the sense of "not what it initially seems"
Which fits Yorinobu's plans, imo, as he plays the tyrant to end the tyranny per se
I don't see how Hanako fits the Moon
soft oak
She’s also not what she seems. Goro tries to portray her as being a kind hearted damsel in distress when she’s actually the Dragon to Saburo. She puts up appearances of valuing your support when she plans on throwing you out. You should have trusted your intuition that she’s a corpo rat at heart rather than what her appearances and circumstances suggest.
soft oak
I suppose so
toxic prism
Plus the Arasaka residence can fit both of them
Iirc that's where you find the Moon, right?
toxic prism
I think he was hiding there with the Relic from his Father
With both the Relic and Saburo gone, I don't see why he would stay there
toxic prism
I think so
soft oak
FIa did abandon reed and Alex in hell for 7 years
swift mist
it treats you well for as long as you're useful
that's when they hit you with a giant mallet
acoustic adder
yeah I was going to say
reed was just
killed
by the fia
the fact he didn't die
was just a bonus to them
soft oak
FIA is marginally better in that they’ll be nice to you as long as it is convenient for them
Moment it’s not convenient they’ll drop you
Arasaka just fucks you and keeps fucking you
toxic prism
Yeah, so long as your useful is a good addendum
Though tbf they're also sleeper agents
Well, Reed is
Alex did kinda just get abandoned
quick zealot
I think it's very funny that Myers revived the intelligence community when the entire intelligence community collapsed america
big lions eating faces party energy
orchid apex
It's like if Constantine reinstated the Praetorian Guard
quick zealot
Wonder if that'll come up in Orion, the FIA subverting the president more successfully than their gang of four ancestors did
American Civil War....2....!
soft oak
Militech vs NUSA war when
brittle sable
Why are you hitting yourself
orchid apex
I am currently debating whether to use Archangel or Malorian lol
willow harness
Malorian lets you do spinny reloads in the stopped time so
orchid apex
Tru tho
Mr. Hands sounds so fucking familiar
Who voices him they sound so god damn familiar
toxic prism
Alex Jordan
bold vault
if you play darktide, he voices the professional/male veteran
willow harness
Well I've finally done it
Drove so fast through night city I outran not only the LODing, but the collision of the streets getting loaded in
Fell clean through the street
Apparently the abyss is full of water
toxic prism
Same
orchid apex
I have a new, mod-enabled fit
drifting patio
You can't just say that and not share
orchid apex
You can't just say that and not share
The intent was to share lol, just had to take the screenshot
willow harness
Cyberarm mod 👀
I need to check what mods CP77 has, but also I'm a little worried I'll get Skyrim Syndrome and not want to play it after filling out the modlist
willow harness
Yeah, thats a big thing for me also
I want the red gorilla arms that are in some of the previews
orchid apex
Nice
But yeah the game lacks in letting you really chrome up
Part of me is thinking of getting the exotic biosculpt mod cuz apparently it does have facial animation
willow harness
That does seem fun
I feel some of the pathos of some scenes may be lost by you being a meow meow but
orchid apex
severe geyser
I pray "Orion" fixes lack of chrome customization
severe geyser
Like, I'd adore purely cosmetic cyberarms as character creation options
hollow slate
Courtesy of Arasaka Cyberarms
I love the Saka arms.
Switch between one of them and a Kistch arm myself.
orchid apex
lolol
hollow slate
finally satisfied with how my V looks, for once
Looks sick. Love the color combo.
finite willow
Thanks. I like green. A lot.
orchid apex
ooo when I saw the mask I wasn't expecting the like
camo bolero blazer
That's nice
And it all still works with the big hair
finite willow
it's real nice yeah. think those boleros are new with PL, all of em look good.
orchid apex
They are, yeah
I think I've finally found my corpo V's scheme
Black white, pink, red, and leather
finite willow
very nice
finite willow
realizing I give johnny a lotta grace because if you ever give him like... a tiny bit of sympathy or don't outright attack him, you figure out fast he feels like fucking shit that he's ruining your head.
dude sucks, but I think part of what makes his character work is he's starting to realize he sucks and he wants to not suck.
orchid apex
Holy shit the sports academy gig makes me wanna throw up
spoilers ||Oh my god a cybernetically enhanced boxing child I wanna barf what the fuck||
toxic prism
Yeah it's a pretty fucked up gjg
acoustic mountain
Malorian lets you do spinny reloads in the stopped time so
catching up, this so much, i use the malorian exclusively for its reload
acoustic mountain
realizing I give johnny a lotta grace because if you ever give him like... a tin...
yeah hes still very opinionated, but if you give him the room he does want to change and help
orchid apex
I rly like the zen master quest lol
orchid apex
I am personally unsure of this haircut
I kiiiinda like it
Though I do miss the chin length cut
I wish the souped up version of the R-7 was a Valentinos car
Pay homage to lowrider culture
Instead of kinda just being an R-7 Chthulhu
willow harness
Man
Doing Riders On The Storm, and I just ran into my favorite random Johnny line
I had forgotten about it until now
You have Cozy Nomad Times hiding out from the bad guys, Panam talks about how all the abandoned shack needs to be a hotel is a grumpy guy at the front desk, and after everyone goes to sleep Johnny materializes and just goes
'On behalf of the Independent California Hotel, I wish you all sweet dreams.'
orchid apex
Yeah that's
chef kiss
Amazing
Also a Hotel California reference
Which is so meta it fuckin hurts
willow harness
Also I'm finally getting around to modding
Gonna do just the red gorilla arms and one to unequip mods, because I just got a tier 5 Satara with 2 mod slots, but they're both filled already
And I want to cram tier 5 Condensers in there instead 
toxic prism
How so?
orchid apex
It has the highest top speed I'm p sure
Also like
Fuckin look at it
It looks like nothing else
Weird ass blocky spanish Ford GT thing
toxic prism
That's a 1970/80s car
acoustic mountain
the caliburn is still faster afaik
junior phoenix
Looks like a coup'd cybertruck haha
bold vault
cybertruck if it was good
orchid apex
all my favorite sets of wheels
The Riptide is actually very good tho
I immediately found a much better place for taking a pic like this fuck
granite solstice
I genuinely like Silverhand.
I’m not saying he’s not flawed but like… yeah I really like him.
severe geyser
I thought the Rasetsu's rounds would slightly curve, not make it basically a smart/tech hybrid.
fervent lagoon
oh yeah it's great
soft oak
I thought the Rasetsu's rounds would slightly curve, not make it basically a sma...
Bolt round from Rasetsu killed the target, the enemy behind him, another enemy 35 degrees of curve behind the second enemy, and then a random civvie
Unfortunately on testing Rasetsu bolt doesn’t seem to penetrate cober
severe geyser
So the new 'Fuck you, your buddies and the neighbors dog' gun.
Also, I know Her Majesty's just a Unity with a silencer but fuck i'm a sucker brushed metal on guns.
soft oak
So the new 'Fuck you, your buddies and the neighbors dog' gun.
Yeah but not penetrating walls kinda
Painful for a tech gun
bold vault
it does punch through cover last i checked
soft oak
It didn’t penetrate a thin glass screen when I tried it
severe geyser
Yeah might be bugged with bolt tho.
severe geyser
New weapon + new perk = new chance of bugs
soft oak
Which is weird cause Raiju definitely penetrates through everything
But then again the bullets from@that gun by default penetrates
severe geyser
Combat model of the fashion gun, funny concept.
soft oak
It’s the single highest dps gun in the game afaik
Funnily enough
Bolt with it becomes ridiculous
You’ll clear entire squads of enemies in seconds
toxic prism
What's Raiju agqin?
Is it the sniper you get from the ||party infiltration mission?||
bold vault
nope. it's a ||variation of the senkoh that you get from a world mission||
soft oak
What's Raiju agqin?
An iconic tech submachinegun you can get from an Increased Crime Activity in dog town
willow harness
I found an iconic SMG with a 1000 RPM fire rate
Made me sad I don't care about smgs at all
soft oak
Hip fire: extremely rapid firing burst that fires as quickly as you pull@the trigger, has manageable recoil, tight spread, and penetrates walls
soft oak
Aim fire: slower burst, can charge shots, penetrates walls, basically no recoil
Charge fire: full automatic fire
toxic prism
What's the special?
soft oak
Bolt: full automatic fire + if you have chain lightning, every couple of shots trigger chain lightning
Charge fire makes it fire full auto
soft oak
It’s an extremely powerful gun by default and becomes ridiculous in charge fire mode
acoustic adder
willow harness
Was one of these pre patch or something?
The cutout in game models and the shutterstock teddy bear is sure something
gilded vale
Yeah that was what the game shipped with, it only go upgraded to the right hand version with 2.0
bold vault
It's like night and day holy shit
pale saddle
Immensely so
icy pecan
Pre 2.0 patch river asked chatgpt to generate a family photo
severe geyser
Slash hit a peak sandy. I managed to kill 5 ganggoons before the first one hit the floor.
finite willow
maybe a dumb question. does running a sandevistan or a kerenzikov lock you out of running quickhacks? I can never decide if I want to try them at the cost of one of my favorite parts of gameplay
light anchor
yes
soft oak
maybe a dumb question. does running a sandevistan or a kerenzikov lock you out o...
No to ketenzikov
Yes to sandevistan
finite willow
I may slot a kerenzikov then. but I enjoy combat quickhacks too much.
soft oak
Also yes to berserk
finite willow
popping contagion and overheat until I run out of ram right at the start of a fight before I even fire a shot, then letting loose, is just fun as hell
severe geyser
Sandys, Cyberdecks and berserks are operating systems, all taking up the same slot.
light anchor
sandys + quickhacks would be blatantly broken
severe geyser
Scanning already slows time.
finite willow
I'm aware, yeah. I just wanted confirmation of what I already suspected.
unrelated. I finally remembered to slot in a blood pump cyberware, and man with enough of the related body tree skills selected, and a biomonitor slotted? you kind of just feel like a fucking juggernaut in a fight.
I was just slow-walking through the middle of the Arasaka Industry Park eating bullets and shredding people.
severe geyser
Also unrelated, love the "Pimp" skins for the guns, with the wood furniture and gold bits.
icy pecan
Body with blood pump and biomonitor definitely ups your tankiness dramatically
Especially with +1 health item charge from tech and health item Regen rate alongside adrenaline makes yous nearly unkillable while you have charges
Except when a random gangsters with a heavy melee just one shots you from full health somehow
lone lodge
I currently have 4 body. Everything that isn't a regular pistol/rifle/smg one shots me.
Fighting Sasquatch was really annoying
icy pecan
I almost always want like 15 body on every build cause it's such a big QoL
lone lodge
I'm just fully maxing Reflex and Cool, plus running a sandy. Your HP doesn't really matter if your opponents can't hit you
icy pecan
My pet peeves is being one shot even with I had adrenaline and health item charges left for my biomonitor (also me uses max edgerunner)
lone lodge
I tried doing that, but I kept missing
orchid apex
F
lone lodge
Her movement out-of-combat is really weird for some reason
icy pecan
My first time with katana I played it smart and skillfully with conserving my sandy well and dodging and taking attacks when able
Second time with full body shotgun I just facetanked her and shot her up lol
severe geyser
I have 4 body but also a pain editor and a lot of armor/mitigation. Also a sandy so I can just. Not get hit. Am faster aster to bullet.
lone lodge
I love the fact that you can just sneak around her and steal her hammer before the fight starts.
severe geyser
willow harness
I kind of understand why you can run and fire at full speed in sandevistan, but I wished you fell at the slow mo speed
Both because physics and also because I wanna double jump over an NCPD scanner and headshot everyone mid fall
lone lodge
isn't there a sandy that specifically slows down time midair?
the Zetatech sandy
or does it not slow down fall speed
icy pecan
I kind of understand why you can run and fire at full speed in sandevistan, but ...
You're simply heavier at twice the speed so you fall faster /s
finite willow
Especially with +1 health item charge from tech and health item Regen rate along...
yep. add in cyberware that ups your armor and you become real hard to kill.
stoic marlin
ooo got that Majesty pistol, its so cool
orchid apex
Oh I found like
Incredibly my V’s vibes Valentino pants
Partly leather boot cut riding pants with that golden sun-haloed skull printed on the upper left thigh
stoic marlin
popping contagion and overheat until I run out of ram right at the start of a fi...
ive had a good time with shutting down optics -> headshots
finite willow
Same occasionally, except with body shots for me because I'm running a build that procs amputation real fast.
so shut down optics > shotgun blast to the torso while they're all blinded, causing them to turn to gibs.
icy pecan
I personally like weapon glitching everyone and running up to their face
finite willow
cripple movement on speedy fuckers > lighting them up with an automatic is a fun one too.
severe geyser
Cyberware x3 to short circuit, fry 'em up.
icy pecan
Cyberware malfunction x3 is beautiful and also incredibly personal
Watching a speedy guy just sadly walk everywher cause their sandy doesn't work is funnyt
soft oak
I go with weapos jam into tech weapon blasts
icy pecan
If arasaka didn't want a cyberpsycho V to solo the tower why didn't they use netrunners to cyberware malfunction hack them? Are they stupid?
finite willow
yeah, if you didn't want me to blender through your forces and bust into Mikoshi maybe you should have done something about my One Million Cyberwares
severe geyser
Nomad Netrunner secret agent fit.
drifting patio
If arasaka didn't want a cyberpsycho V to solo the tower why didn't they use net...
(Why didn't they?)
willow harness
(Why *didn't* they?)
My answer is the '!!SQUID GAMES!!' meme but it's just 'RELIC'
toxic prism
If arasaka didn't want a cyberpsycho V to solo the tower why didn't they use net...
V is too angry to die
Also
Alt
Anyways, do I wanna:
Help Songbird
Play Alien Isolation
orchid apex
Nomad Netrunner secret agent fit.
Lowkey gonna steal this for my own nomad runner
finite willow
(Why *didn't* they?)
Jokes aside, my best guess is Yorinobu likely deliberately gutted Arasaka security at the tower like he did with the parade. It doesn't suit his goals to fortify Arasaka corp at all, so not having dedicated runners in house to shut down an intruder's cybernetics remotely would track.
toxic prism
Makes sense
Alt does mention Arasaka Netrunners in the system though
Then again, it could just be they're just getting in after news of the assault spread
And now they gotta deal with Alt first
In which case good luck
finite willow
yeah, likely ones that were focused on maintaining network integrity. and, well, Alt fucking Cunningham banging at your digital door is gonna take your attention up way more than a merc running into the literal physical entrance guns blazing.
toxic prism
And they have Smasher for the latter anyways
finite willow
yeah. Yori likely assumed Smasher was enough to at least give off the appearance that he gave a damn about safeguarding the tower.
toxic prism
I wonder how clued in Smasher was
To Yorinobu's plan
I imagine he wouldn't care much so long as he still got to do his job
finite willow
Honestly given ||he knows about your presence at Konopeki and does fuck-all, and Oda tries to warn him about the grave security flaws at the parade and he still does fuck-all?|| Yoru likely either clued him in or raised his pay enough to not care.
toxic prism
Yeah fair
I do.love the fact in Konpeki he literally just stares at you the entire time you're "hidden"
Doesn't even clue anyone else in
He just wants to make you scared
finite willow
Yep. And if you have the threat detector cyberware installed he lights up bright red just to really make sure you know he knows you're there.
toxic prism
Knowing Smasher
It's 100% him just being a dick
For no reason other than it probably amused him
finite willow
Oh 1000%. Yori probably told him not to act, but Smasher needs his fun so he's not completely bored off his ass.
toxic prism
Tbf I don't think Yorinobu had a plan that night
Or at least, if he did it definitely didn't go as planned
The murder of Saburo was very sudden
finite willow
I'd argue what went down wasn't planned, but his takeover was. The murder just accelerated it.
toxic prism
Yeah
Agreed
Like if he actually wanted to be convincing he could easily have poisoned Saboru
If he had a plan
But between the impulsive strangling and the very thinly vieled lie
It definitely didn't go as planned
finite willow
Smasher was way too willing to just go with whatever the hell Yori wanted for there to not be some pre-meditation. So i just assume Yori had put Smasher in his corner awhile ago in preparation
toxic prism
I mean Smasher just like smashing people and things
reef stirrup
Yorinbu also had no idea Saburo was coming to see him - there was zero plan, only hot blooded impulse
toxic prism
Yeah
Exactly
Also, Yorinibu probably just had to tell Smasher "if you help me there will be a lot of suffering and chaos, and people to kill"
And Smasher would probably be like "say no more fam"
finite willow
Honestly could just come down to what was said earlier. Smasher thought it was more fun to let the kid kill his dad, and let you and Jackie be.
toxic prism
It wouldn't surprise me if the turn of events amused him, yeah
finite willow
He gets rampant conflict if he stays his hand for five minutes and doesn't unload into the hiding spot
toxic prism
Smasher is a pretty simple sadist all things considered
He enjoys chaos
And killing people
And anime
finite willow
Yeah.
soft oak
I wonder how clued in Smasher was
Yorinobu = fifth corporate war
toxic prism
Yeah
soft oak
Very good motive for smasher to side with him
toxic prism
That's really all he needs to hear
Smasher is brutally simple
Which in a sense makes him more dangerous imo
orchid apex
Well Smasher also apparently likes third in line to the Arasaka throne pussy
Which I suppose
orchid apex
I mean Smasher just like smashing people and things
Falls into a definition of smash
acoustic adder
As elvis presley no less
toxic prism
Michiko was his girlfriend yeah
toxic prism
Hey a man has to do something to let off steam
soft oak
He’s tacky and is forever in the 50s
toxic prism
(2050s)
orchid apex
Michiko is fuckin weird
toxic prism
I do wonder if Michiko is still loyal to the NUSA
orchid apex
I think she's weirder for boning Smasher as Elvis than Smasher is for boning her as Elvis
tbh
Oh yeah that would be a fun thread to pull
soft oak
Michiko is the leader of the peace faction of arasaka
Coincidentally that’s also what militech wants
toxic prism
Cause in RED she has a deal with Kress
To basically hunt down Arasaka agents in America
It's one of the secret goals of Danger Gal
Wouldn't be surprised if she's working with the FIA tbh
soft oak
It would be hilarious if that’s the case
toxic prism
Yeah
soft oak
Ultimately that still puts her in opposition to Yorinobu
toxic prism
I mean she's basically the perfect double agent
soft oak
But with Hanako and Saburo gone
toxic prism
She's very close to the top of Arasaka
soft oak
That means the two remaining Arasakas are both actually anti Arasaka
soft oak
Just in different ways
toxic prism
Though Yorinobu is more "fuck corporations"
soft oak
Yorinobu is “burn the slate down”
toxic prism
Yorinobu in 2020 is more or less Japanese Johnny Silverhand iirc
He was very anti-corpo
soft oak
And michiko is a reformer/pervert the system from within I guess
toxic prism
I imagine that hasn't changed much. He just grew more subtle and pragmatic about it.
soft oak
Well both are but Yorinobu’s end goal is literally driving arasaka off the cliff
toxic prism
And found out the best way to bring it all down was from the inside.
toxic prism
Well both are but Yorinobu’s end goal is literally driving arasaka off the cliff
It's more than that
I think he wants to start a 5th Corporate War to basically weaken all the corporations to the point where they can be taken down for good
soft oak
Yeah but who’s gonna be doing the taking downing
toxic prism
That's the question
Ideally, themselves
They'd go down swinging, bringing each other down
soft oak
I mean last time they did that they did sling nukes at each other
soft oak
Johnny Silverhand except macro scale
toxic prism
Cause a 5th corporate war is still building up
I think Yorinobu wants it to end on his terms
As opposed to another megacorp status quo
But that's just a theory I have I guess
soft oak
Of course all of this might end up not mattering
Because of the upcoming ai war
Outside context apocalypse
finite willow
I do wonder if Michiko is still loyal to the NUSA
I kind of wonder this myself. She's stated to be the head of the 'liberal' faction in Arasaka nowadays, so her having lingering loyalties to NUSA could theoretically explain why she signs on with Yorinobu without seemingly stopping to question his takeover.
soft oak
I think if AIs breach the blackwall it will be worse than the data crash tbh
Considering now average people have enough cyberware to get instantly brain fried by a malicious hacker
fervent lagoon
i mean that was true back then too
its just that overall cyberization levels are higher
soft oak
Didn’t they have to be physically linked to the net to get their cyberware taken over?
fervent lagoon
i don't believe so
soft oak
Huh
finite willow
I wouldn't think so, because otherwise wouldn't you have to jack into everyone to hack them in-game?
finite willow
Ah, alright.
I dunno. If anything the datakrash being so recent and people learning seemingly nothing from it but 'don't fuck with the Blackwall' (city VBs not-withstanding), an impending AI war is going to be a disaster.
soft oak
I know quickhacks aren’t a thing anyways until 2077
acoustic mountain
i love that at 5 stars, even dogtown calls maxtac
toxic prism
They explain this in one of the routes actually
in that even BARGHEST is afraid of Cyberpsychos, to the point of just letting MAXTAC do their thing
so they have a mutual understanding
acoustic mountain
anyway heres a silly punching cyberware build
basically immortal as long as you turn on berserk now and then
toxic prism
that's a lot of eddies
acoustic mountain
yeah im just messing around with stuff since i did everything there is to do 
toxic prism
Fair enough
can't say I'm not doing the same lol
I downloaded a mod with more cyberware slots
and basically removed the cap on my cyberware limits
acoustic mountain
like my map looks like this
toxic prism
oh yeah same
Well, last game at least
the new save is bascially the Power Fantasy one
toxic prism
yeah punching is fun
I'm currently doing 20s in every stat, with every perk taken, cyberware limits removed, and practically infinite money
it's fun
acoustic mountain
i set my all my stats to 20 when i reached 60
but i played full on legit till then
acoustic mountain
yea yea
arctic palm
cyprpumk
acoustic mountain
cypruspunk...
orchid apex
The stash wall displays are broken I cri
willow harness
Yeah,..........
bright granite
they even mentioned it in the PL update, got a chuckle outta me
the only weapon mine seems to want to display is Sasquatch's Hammer
quartz badger
finally finished PL, really pleased how it turned out
ending ||said the long goodbye to So Mi, too dangerous to let her go free, too human to be handed over to the NUSA||
orchid apex
So in the space of about a day, my V has PL spoilers ||helped Songbird escape the FIA|| and then took the rest of that day to spend a nice day with Judy, ending with V cheating on River with her
l m a o w h a t t h e f u c k i s t h i s r u n
orchid apex
I enjoy that Claire is appropriately pissed off and refuses to serve you if you get the bad ending for her quest
finite willow
So, Hypercritical, the iconic precision rifle you get during the Tiny Mike gig.
Very fun. So very fun.
orchid apex
lol nice
severe geyser
Streetkid V.
icy pecan
I would mistake that V for a random gangsters and get my shit kicked in
orchid apex
Bro looks like Eminem
bright granite
Seems like a guy from whatever the Night City version of Boston is (affectionate)
Or NY, something east coast about it
rough laurel
Seems like a guy from whatever the Night City version of Boston is (affectionate...
I could see him being from Worcester
Mostly because I was threatened with a bat there once 😆
orchid apex
This is really interesting
Also the Glen apartment is the best apartment
The Glen or JTown
acoustic mountain
yeha i like those too
toxic prism
Glen is my favorite as well
orchid apex
I'd argue the Glen apartment is the best for a Corpo V tbh
Connections to the Heywood area in their backstory, but distant from the city center where the bad shit went down
soft oak
The Glen or JTown
Yeah J town is a great apartment aesthetically
trail bronze
the only hard choices i faced were ||getting the bad ending||
everything else seemed very straightforward honestly
orchid apex
What is the bad ending lmao
trail bronze
||selling out to the FIA and retiring||
orchid apex
lmao agreed
||I let So Mi go, out of a begrudging respect for one good at the game||
||Left holding the bag, fitting, my V thinks||
trail bronze
||i mean, what have i lost? nothing, i'm back where i started except now i have some absurdly strong combat software||
soft oak
You’ve got a ||FIA assassin trying to kill you now||
trail bronze
||if i wanted to go out like an absolute chump i could have just, you know, not been an edgerunner in the first place, nobody was making me try to get into the "major leagues"||
remarkably, that doesn't even scare me a little bit
soft oak
Except for Jackie
I role played as being very reluctant to do the job
Only doing it out of favor to Jackie
But I kept on mentioning how this is gonna end with both of us dead haha
trail bronze
i beat adam smasher to death with my fists the other day
soft oak
Yeah but Alex insta killed colonel hensen
Who’s even stronger than Adam smasher for some reason 😛
toxic prism
2.0 Smasher is a lot stronger imo
toxic prism
They made him an actual boss fight
trail bronze
i mean i also beat colonel hansen to death with my fists in an alternate timeline
soft oak
She plans on killing you by causing you to suffer a long, painful neurological disease that eventually kills you
soft oak
Yeah she mentions that if you told her about the relic
“Boys back home will be floored when I tell them that’s how I got you.”
Lmao
orchid apex
You’ve got a ||FIA assassin trying to kill you now||
That does not frighten me in the slightest actually
toxic prism
Same
soft oak
Yeah it’s Alex
soft oak
She’s friendly more or less, despite everything
orchid apex
“Boys back home will be floored when I tell them that’s how I got you.”
That's some funny shit actually
Does she like
Text you about it?
soft oak
No
orchid apex
If so that's a... bold decision
soft oak
She invites you to have a drink with her
orchid apex
Wait you're serious
soft oak
Yeah
orchid apex
Is it
soft oak
She’s like “yeah FIA wants me to kill you”
orchid apex
In the drink????
soft oak
“But I think my plan is to let you suffer a long neurological disorder that kills you instead.”
light anchor
there's 5 billion ways to get it into you
soft oak
No
soft oak
It’s just a friendly chat
trail bronze
yeah my understanding is that she does nothing
soft oak
Yeah
orchid apex
Ah I see
light anchor
she knows youre dying
light anchor
so shes gonna let you die
orchid apex
Oh
soft oak
So she plans on just letting you die
light anchor
and then say "it was top secret virus: FOXDIE
soft oak
Nah I don’t think so
orchid apex
Ah well
bright granite
still outlandish to me there's no solid way around Relic Damage, like just clone me or somethin damn
trail bronze
i don't think so, it's a safe zone
soft oak
You can return your FIa badge to her though
light anchor
still outlandish to me there's no solid way around Relic Damage, like just clone...
cloning only replicates the cells
you'd still have johnny cells
orchid apex
Well parts of your consciousness have already been overwritten
soft oak
So that she can use it as proof that she killed you
light anchor
the problem is that cloning you would create a perfect 100% accurate copy of your current state
bright granite
we can turn a mans into a jetplane this can be solved
light anchor
including the part of you that is killing you
adam smasher just has backup jeans
V is poor, so they don't have backup jeans
soft oak
Well you can get a clone to take up your memories maybe
trail bronze
yeah, you just need however many billion eddies it's gonna take
soft oak
But you’d still be dead
light anchor
now V has the inferior jeans
soft oak
They can turn you into an engram and stick you into the clone maybe
light anchor
this is most likely what happens in the arasaka ending
soft oak
But for all intents and purposes you’d still be dead just like how Johnny’s still dead
trail bronze
haha yes
soft oak
They could replace your brain because that’s what’s killing you
But that would also probably kill you for all intents and purposes
trail bronze
"the save your soul programme can't alter personality traits... but... hypothetically... what is it that would you want altered?"
light anchor
we wouldnt do something so morally repugnant
but if we did, what would you want the end result to be?
like a hypothetical
in a situation like, where you sign this contract and we store you in mikoshi for use as a killer agent
bright granite
V brings the station down from inside the mainframe, just crashes it into the sea
light anchor
hypothetically, how would you feel about that?
bright granite
pure spite energy unable to be stopp'd
soft oak
Netrunner V joining Alt in beyond the blackwall to be an immortal AI god
light anchor
hypothetically, if we like, haha, made you an engram, and you were the nail sticking up, haha, would you be fine with us hammering you down
soft oak
While Johnny silverhand gets to keep the body
bright granite
I do think it's wild that the guy who nuked the city can get a nice ending but not V
bright granite
I dunno, it's probably not like a wide enough view but it feels kinda like 'there's nothing you can do ;3' isn't a fun overarching vibe for Punk type game
light anchor
if you do johnnys ending its not happy for him
light anchor
you cant properly explain to rogue what happens in the blackwall
so rogue feels betrayed
people dont understand why you suddenly change
johnny feels sick living in night city and just leaves forever
bright granite
that's kind of what i mean though, i guess 'happy ending' wasn't accurate, just like-.. there's even a smidge of hope
soft oak
I mean “there’s nothing you can do” is a pretty recurring thematic point of cyberpunk
The genre in general
quick zealot
I don't like johnny turning into like a straight edge in his ending
soft oak
It’s very rare for a cyberpunk story to have any kind of hopeful or happy ending
quick zealot
Some part of his scumbag trashuncle persona should survive
soft oak
Usually the protagonist ends up dead or running away from the system
Instead of actually affecting social change
quick zealot
I mean no
Mike's said that the point of cyberpunk is building a future or some kind of safety for the ones you love
Which maybe half of endings in cdpr era
trail bronze
honestly that's a worthwhile lesson in the modern era
soft oak
True I suppose
granite solstice
Mike's said that the point of cyberpunk is building a future or some kind of saf...
By this metric, I take it my opinion that (ending spoilers) || the nomad ending is the best one || is correct!
soft oak
Well either way
Killing everyone in arasaka tower probably increased the safety of the world
Wonder why Hanako was jacked into the tower though
quick zealot
The nomad ending is by far the most narratively satisfying one for me yeah
soft oak
If “getting mind burned by hostile AIs and netrunner” is a known problem
You’d think people would think twice before allowing direct network connection with a system
trail bronze
i'm more of a "don't fear the reaper" enthusiast
soft oak
You access public Wi-Fi and next thing you know your head explodes
bright granite
There has to be a contingent of old-school netrunners with external drives and stuff for this reason
quick zealot
I can see don't fear the reaper being much more immediately satisfying ending for folks
they're two different brands of the punk 'taking control of your life from the man' theme
soft oak
Attack and dethrone god the ending
trail bronze
i do like attacking and dethroning god
bright granite
Did anyone else keep expecting Dr. Paradox to show up
quick zealot
I think the nomad one is great because it rewards building communities who love each other and thrive in spite of the backbreaking capitalism surrounding them
quick zealot
It's the ending where you've beat Night City
trail bronze
i haven't played it but i assume ||that johnny is right and not all of them make it out||
soft oak
Night City is hell
quick zealot
||Yeah smasher kills a couple iirc||
soft oak
Smasher smash
quick zealot
If I were in charge of 2077, I think I'd make 'the major leagues' more miserable
Live by the sword, die by the sword
In the end sooner or later, you will follow Jackie.
bright granite
I feel like there could've been a little more pre-Relic gametime but it kicks off too much important stuff i guess
that first montage just covers so much
light anchor
I don't like johnny turning into like a straight edge in his ending
honestly, i think he just cant cope with feeling like he finally became close to someone and then became the reason they had to die
quick zealot
Yeah I can see that
soft oak
I think he’s trying in his own way to be respectful to V
By taking care of their body as if it’s a temple
trail bronze
a temple to bacchus, maybe
quick zealot
I think my v'd probably be like "what do I care what you do with my body johnny, I'm dead"
soft oak
And also he’s trying to be a better person and recognizes that his addictions were part of the problem
light anchor
unfortunately, johnny doesnt have a dead person in their hand saying what they are or arent ok with
quick zealot
Yeah
bright granite
cyberghost V AU.. she still in dere..
quick zealot
Also thinking a little on the focus on the moon in a lot of cyberpunk endings
It's presented as this city on the hill, but it's only accessible to the everyman by extreme violence
The poor are only worth anything to the rich by how many of each other you can kill
That or I'm looking too deeply into things
light anchor
no its definitely that
cause its also presented as an escape from everything wrong with the corporations and the world
but everyone who ends up there also realises that that isnt true at all
and the only way you manage to get there is by fucking the world up yourself
soft oak
Also when Lucy actually makes it up there
The first thing she sees is like bog standard “LUNAR TOUR” salesperson
quick zealot
Right, and you're more likely to die in the attempt than actually reach the moon
soft oak
Indicating that the place is actually not all that different
quick zealot
cyberpunk red game but the endgoal of getting to the moon is an analogy for pulling yourself up by your bootstraps bs
soft oak
Why is it called red if you don’t even get to go to mars
Militech is trying to build a Martian colony right
swift mist
I can see don't fear the reaper being much more immediately satisfying ending fo...
i simply think dont fear the reaper is the best ending because i like it when the mission title is song i like >:)
fervent lagoon
They made him an actual boss fight
the COX-2 is still bugged so you can smack him with four hits of synapse burnout and watch him fall over
toxic prism
Fun
granite solstice
i do like attacking and dethroning god
Reach Mikoshi through violence!
finite willow
||Yeah smasher kills a couple iirc||
if you mean the nomad ending? yeah, the big one is Smasher kills ||Saul instead of Rogue||
I think ||Mitch|| gets pretty seriously injured, too, but in the assault leading up to the tower raid
orchid apex
I think my V is in a very interesting, somewhat depressing place rn for our discussion of endings
In that her 'I'm here for a good time, not a long time' attitude has become 'I'm here, not for a long time'
She has looked back and realized every path but 'short-lived, firecracker legend' has fallen away into the abyss
Unless she wants to take Saka's deal which
Is not gonna happen
She's not going with Panam, the Nomad life seems... meh to her.
Fuck it, she'll die the woman who stormed 'Saka tower alone after tearing a bloody, neon-soaked canyon through the gangs and corps of NC and ||sending a rogue NUSA netrunner asset to space||
orchid apex
Oh my god Johnny just made me piss myself laughing
"Come on, gotta find some new peeps for you to befriend, grow to like, then murder."
toxic prism
Johnny is pretty cool when he's not being a dick
icy pecan
It says a lot that Johnny opens up to V when he basically never opened up to anyone else while he was alive, even to his closest aquatances like Kerry, Alt, and Rogue
fervent lagoon
or arguably himself
icy pecan
I guess dying and slowly possessing a thinking corpse does that to you
severe geyser
To paraphrase Saburo, the living tend to lie, especially to themselves, the dead never do.
orchid apex
Also Johnny opening up is I think dependent on V either pissing him off or dressing him down enough
Which
I think any person would struggle to be even-keeled with Johnny, so that probably happens a lot even on 'accident'
orchid apex
Anyone have build suggestions for a third playthrough after a somewhat stealthy pistols/katanas sandy build and an upcoming shotgun/lmg hacker build?
drifting patio
Berserk Punch Build?
orchid apex
The body hacker is doing 'rilla Arms already 
I may do a sniper?
I may do a techie specialist
as in like grenades and tech weapons
as opposed to how my current build uses Tech which is uh
Being a cyberpsycho is fun, you should try it
So I think that's gonna be my third build
Nerdy Solo
Who likes tech weapons and shiz
fervent lagoon
Being a cyberpsycho is fun, you should try it
I know right
I get this cool yellow overlay and a damage bonus
honestly idk what people were talk about this shit's great
orchid apex
It also I bet is gonna do wonders for when my current character does (D)FTR
"TIME TO PARTY LIKE IT'S 2023!!!"
drifting patio
Lol
So, I was streaming the game to a friend who had very little knowledge of the setting, and when I hit that line he just went "Wait what?"
orchid apex
Apparently on my current save I've had Nocturne longer than I haven't had it
86 hours into the file, 36 hours in is the earliest save with the Nocturne label
l m a o
drifting patio
Nocturne?
willow harness
Nocturne?
The point of no return final quest in cp77
It's named after a specific orchestral piece, nocturne no. Number I Can't Remember
reef stirrup
Nocturne Op55N1
Or: Nocturne Opus 55, Number 1
Which is the song Hanako is playing when you enter Embers
drifting patio
Oh right that one
finite willow
Also Johnny opening up is I think dependent on V either pissing him off or dress...
It's the latter I think. at least in the oil field scene you have to basically really tear into him for him to realize he's fucked up, and he asks for a second chance.
rough laurel
Popping in here because my lingo has been poisoned long term and thought y'all would enjoy knowing I accidentally said to my boss that I would flick him the deets on a trailer
orchid apex
I think at some point soon I'm going to do a fanfic of an alternate version of (Don't) Fear The Reaper
Where Johnny and V merge, which I think would be a thematically resonant ending
They both still die, but they deny Arasaka control of their souls, making the choice to both die and be sublimated into this new person
The fanfic would be about this new person deciding who they are and be titled "Turn The Page" after the Metallica song
Of course every chapter would also be named after a song
orchid apex
I got the "The APB Is Not Enough" achievement and I am surprised MaxTac showed up to Dogtown lmao
severe geyser
Yeah, got it too. Kinda disappointed cause I remember CDPR said something special happenedd at 5 stars in dogtown.
bright granite
Could be slightly bugged like the "shows more iconic weapons now" stash
finite willow
IIRC, supposedly there's in-game text or dialogue or something that retcons it that Hansen and Barghest just do not want to fuck with cyberpsychos, so they'll let MaxTac and only MaxTac do their thing.
Also NCPD are confined to land vehicles, from what we've seen. MT has AVs. So unless Hansen wants to shoot them down and risk all-out war with the tactical unit in NC, it's probably better to just let them do their one thing as long as they fuck off after.
Then again, prolly just CDPR handwaving not wanting to reskin a MaxTac unit just for Dogtown.
toxic prism
IIRC, supposedly there's in-game text or dialogue or something that retcons it t...
I mean it makes sense. Cyberpsychos are scary.
finite willow
Yeah. They're usually packing military grade cyberware from head to foot.
severe geyser
I was expecting some super solo to come and try and zero you in a badass bossfight.
finite willow
I mean, I honestly just assumed it'd be a super chromed out squad of Barghest soldiers.
toxic prism
And Maxtac is basically collared cyberpyschos hunting other cyberpsychos
finite willow
Basically, yeah.
It's why Hansen prolly is.. reasonably sure as long as he just lets them do their job, they'll fuck off after. Because they're not like regular cops. They don't seem to give a shit about anything but hunting down the cyberpsycho, then going home.
finite willow
hysterically, ironically, the only non-corrupt cops in that they only do one singular thing and that thing is rapid and brutal murder.
toxic prism
Yeah they're like, the one Cops that actually do their thing well yeah
finite willow
well, the only ones aside from River and that other chick who can go postal on her precinct if you don't stop her.
severe geyser
Barry too I think.
finite willow
oh right, Barry. poor dude.
replaying that quest always sucks a bit, cause it feels like the game is trying to get you to agree with his dickhead ex-colleague.. until it pulls the rug out and makes you realize the sadder truth that Barry was just that alone that a ||turtle|| dying destroyed him.
toxic prism
Johnny of all people actually realizes how much he needs help and not pity
like if you make fun of the turtle Johnny basically goes "that's not funny that's really fucking depressing"
finite willow
yeah. like, if you go for the easy laugh of making fun of the poor guy for it the game makes sure you know that was the shitty move.
swift mist
it's so real though
toxic prism
Oh yeah totally
orchid apex
Yeah. They're usually packing military grade cyberware from head to foot.
I know I was lmao
Apogee Sandy backed up by Axolotl, Adreno-Trigger, and Cockatrice Optics is a helluva drug
acoustic adder
icy pecan
replaying that quest always sucks a bit, cause it feels like the game is trying ...
It's very annoying since it's so far away but I always save Barry
fervent lagoon
I do wish that there was more reason to fight NCPD than just "because you can" since them dropping the end game you die squad on you feels pretty anticlimactic
soft oak
there's only like
one or two opportunities to fight the NCPD
one when they were beating up some corpo for some reason
and another when they try to ambush you as part of some drug bust or something
fervent lagoon
getting the implant for jake
maxtac was such a talked up mechanic and they don't really do anything interesting besides kill you
would have been pretty cool if idk they dropped shards or something
or if wiping maxtac wiped the bounty rather than spawning another dropship thirty seconds later
toxic prism
There's a maxtac boss fight in the Reed PL route
severe geyser
What if the reward for beating maxtac was an iconic version of the crusher shotgun since its was used in the 2077 reveal trailer
orchid apex
~~What if the reward for beating maxtac was an iconic version of the crusher sho...
That woulda been cool
Or the MaxTac Mantis Blades
Tho I would personally continue to use the Headsman
I'm so happy there's a shotgun for Cool builds
Malorian, Headsman, and Byakko is a helluva loadout
severe geyser
God I wish we could use those curved mantis blades, so much cooler.
rough laurel
I just want a secret hand machine gun instead of the grenade
Run around whacking people with a kanabo and blasting when they play keepaway
severe geyser
I like the pls, just wish the launcher part was bigger instead of the tiny turret
rough laurel
I can switch between a melee and a gun but the concept of gun arm is a mood
severe geyser
Go full Barret Deus Ex.
toxic prism
Or the MaxTac Mantis Blades
About that....
orchid apex
compact shotgun, pistol, short katana, no other visible weapons
I know you can kill Rory for them
toxic prism
If you do Reed's route and help Mr Hands you get them as well
orchid apex
Or ask Hands for help during some quest or other
toxic prism
Yeah
orchid apex
To finish my point
toxic prism
You get them for helping Hands during the Maxtac quest specifically
rough laurel
Yeah I feel like there's an atmosphere of "where am I keeping all these guns" sometimes
orchid apex
I can still have that lo-pro vibe
rough laurel
The GTA gun wallet
orchid apex
and then bust out a grenade launcher
There is a little bit but like
overall I don't reeeeaaaaally care
I want a low profile for character reasons
rough laurel
Meanwhile arm gun is just inside the arm so
I am roleplay cringe and will stop at my trunk to "go get" my longarm
severe geyser
My loadouts, are light, smg, pistol shotgun on netrunner, pistol and katana on my corp, and bat and shotgun on streetkid. So I can rationalize me carrying all that with slings and such.
rough laurel
I love me a big chunky revolver tho
orchid apex
Do the heightened criminal activity areas despawn if you complete the story?
trail bronze
no
orchid apex
Huh
I think it glitched out on me then
All right fuck it time to get this playthrough over with
trail bronze
they don't show up on your map or anything
orchid apex
The boss also didn’t appear for me
trail bronze
but you can definitely do them after you've finished PL storylines and done a couple of iterations of nocturne
orchid apex
Can you do it after Temperance?
orchid apex
Cool
Forgot how long you have to wait until Johnny pipes up lmao
TIME TO PARTY LIKE IT’S 2023!!!
severe geyser
Phantom Liberty went from spy thriller to survival horror real fast.
finite willow
I decided to slot in an Apogee-model Sandevistan and.. not gonna lie, this is fast matching how fun quickhacks are for me.
Triggering it and just zipping around with Hypercritical, basically one-shotting everything with an explosive round to the head, is.. it works for me.
severe geyser
Blah, man I just beat Phantom Liberty and it left me drained..
reef stirrup
I don't blame you, it's A Lot
orchid apex
Triggering it and just zipping around with Hypercritical, basically one-shotting...
sandevistan remains queen of the operating systems for me
try it with a cool/body/reflex build, do a high headshot damage pistol or revolver, byakko, and the headsman shotgun
no I'm totally not biased cuz this is my build, why?
finite willow
I'm running body/reflexes/technical for the most part, and it serves me pretty well. Basically like a freight train running at lightspeed.
orchid apex
what weapons?
finite willow
uhhhhh. usually whatever is highest damage right now. but I'm running an LMG / Shotty / Assault rifle (sometimes I swap out for aforementioned Hypercritical)
I think the shotgun is Bloody Mary, the one you get off finishing.. I think Muamar's gigs?
orchid apex
That is indeed the shotgun
finite willow
yeah. good shotty.
orchid apex
If you want a shotgun that is built for apogee fun I will again recommend the headsman
finite willow
it's on my to-get list
finite willow
nice
I did get the shotty from Rinder's stash. fun little tech shotty, it is. feels like firing a high-tech blunderbuss.
finite willow
don't really have a current pic, can grab one in a sec here though
severe geyser
I don't blame you, it's A Lot
Honestly I don't think it's the ending that's got me, it was the sudden dip into survival horror that frying my nerves.
finite willow
just updated it the other night
finite willow
eh, wanted a change
orchid apex
orchid apex
and more.. accidental barghest. just so happens I like their green.
valid
finite willow
very pretty.
orchid apex
My V is very intentionally 'Tino vibes
But with Pink ™️
I just kinda lucked into this look
To the point I'm going to now immediately do a second playthrough of this build
Where I do more shotguns from the get-go lmao
orchid apex
Wait wasn't your character a netrunner build?
I thought you said you did quickhacks?
finite willow
combat quickhacks. so only a very limited amount of points into intelligence, with more focus on guns using quickhacks to supplement.
orchid apex
Ah
finite willow
finding out sandevistan basically doubles as an easy mode stealth function, because you can't get detected if everyone is dead or K/O'd before they can detect you, has maybe sort of swayed me over to the side of running a sandy
pulsar citrus
Hiiiiii I finally unlocked dashes so now I can play more like a shithead
Love my super jump and shotgun
Still haven’t figured kerenzikov yet,,,
reef stirrup
Like how to use it?
pulsar citrus
yeah no idea how to activate it outside of sliding
reef stirrup
Aiming while dashing will do it too
reef stirrup
Specifically with a ranged weapon
reef stirrup
Rad you're set then
pulsar citrus
unless its secretly a blade and counts for those
pulsar citrus
oh, so i should go swap to mantis arms
reef stirrup
It has like, a perk on two in the int tree and it gets fun stuff with the DLC relic tree
reef stirrup
Yeah I you'll get more mileage out of mantis arms
pulsar citrus
REF/COOL/BOD lets go baby
reef stirrup
Specifically Monowire gets a quickhack slot
pulsar citrus
ah booo
reef stirrup
With Jailbreak
Mantis Arms get a fucking ultra leap on dismember
It goes like 10-15 meters
pulsar citrus
yaaaay
my roomie is playing a nomad hacker and. we're playing very different versions of this game
reef stirrup
Yeah it's wild
I'm having a blast hitting Sandy and blowing people to the moon with Guts
pulsar citrus
solo xp is very... hard to get innit
i don't quite get how my richochets work but also i'm playing a very hectic way so maybe that's why
reef stirrup
You get it via shotgun/LMG kills, blunt weapon kills, body checks in general
I have not used richochets once admittedly
pulsar citrus
power is the weapontype the game said i would be going for with my build and its mostly been "huh well okay"
i kinda bounced a shot off an explosive and into a guy tho
that kinda ruled
rough laurel
I like the concept of tech weapons but I'm always winding up with power ones
reef stirrup
I'm a simple man
rough laurel
With the exception of that automatic revolver handgun they got the tech guns don't speak to me in execution
rough laurel
But I'm also a machine gun guy so
Dump an lmg into the field and then pop survivors with whatever else I've got
Big ol bat for anyone who gets close
pulsar citrus
assault rifles - w- that's the way
toxic prism
Fun fact: with air dash you can skate and move very fast
reef stirrup
@pulsar citrus if you haven't seen Guts here's a demonstration
#video-game-discussion message
rough laurel
If I could have my machine gun hand and then switch between the chunkiest revolver I can find and my club
Ideal
reef stirrup
Also RE: LMGs I just could not make them work until late game
When you get the opportunity to get/make two amazing ones with the DLC
rough laurel
I want to BE the huge gun
reef stirrup
Could you spoiler that
toxic prism
Sorry, PL has been out long enough I'm unsure if I should still spoiler stuff :v
reef stirrup
Better safe than sorry ya know
toxic prism
Yeah fair
toxic prism
||Anyways Erebus has a "instakill anyone below 33% health" thing, and those hit by any of its bullets have a 5% chance of having the Cyberware Malfunction quickhack uploaded onto them. And it fires a lot of bullets||
rough laurel
I haven't even touched the pl stuff yet
toxic prism
And fair. Again, apologies
reef stirrup
PL spoilers for late story stuff ||The two actually good LMGs are the Wild Dog iconic you can loot off Kurt and then, very specifically, a MA70 with the legendary Firecracker mod, Steady Aim, and the one cyberware that always counts you as being in cover for traits/talents||
||It's functionally recoilless and causes real deal explosions that proc and stack Pyromania||
pulsar citrus
anyway i keep doing super jumps to take fucked angles and its very funny
rough laurel
Love me big jump
toxic prism
||Also, what's so special about the original Relic that Johnny is stored on? Why can it potentially hold an AI while other Secure Your Soul chips can't?||
pulsar citrus
i should buy the double jump but... super jump
rough laurel
Leap over a fence, do a little spin, headshot the guy I just flipped over
toxic prism
||I know the Blackwall AIs are looking at V for that exact reason but yeah||
Also I personally prefer double jump
rough laurel
Big jump > two jump
toxic prism
More manuverable
rough laurel
You're probably right I just love the way big jump feels
rough laurel
Ye
I like when you do it from a sprint and just
Goodbye
I must go now my people need me
toxic prism
ducktales moon theme
pulsar citrus
its about a second, half-second?
rough laurel
Enough to do it again by the time you land
pulsar citrus
you can do smaller super jumps without full charge which is useful for leaping backwards
toxic prism
It would probably break the game but yeah it would be sick
I recall the early days when Mantis Blade Wall Climbing was a thing
Before they removed it for (probably good) reasons
rough laurel
Every game should let me become a gravity defying creature
toxic prism
I'm just reminded of the Dying Light 2 Grapple Hook
At launch it was broken
You could fire it as much as you wanted without cooldown
rough laurel
Good
toxic prism
So you could basically spiderman across the city
pulsar citrus
the superjump is good i just use it like a rocketjump in tf2
rough laurel
... Oh man I could just drop a grenade and super jump huh
rough laurel
Thank you