Cyberpunk 2077

[acoustic mountain]

not gonna say more than that :3

[icy pecan]

I thought he had some in pacifica, or is that also dlc only

[toxic prism]

Huh

Nice

He has 2 in Pacifica

[acoustic mountain]

i mean he has pacifica gigs

[toxic prism]

But the others are all in Dogtown

[acoustic mountain]

its just that his fixer icon is in dogtown

and you can see how many you did for him once you start the dlc

[toxic prism]

And the 2 Pacifica ones are nowhere near the quality of the Dogtown ones imo

[icy pecan]

They really put a lot of love into Dogtown, everything about it is just so compact and high quality

[trail bronze]

the keystone cops one is good

[soft oak]

“Lieuten—COLONEL, Bennet here. That’s right, it’s official!”

[orchid apex]

Also I can't decide if I wanna romance River again or not

[soft oak]

Lmao Bennet is so incompetent that he rolls right back around to charming

[acoustic mountain]

ye the base game gigs are a bit bland

half of them are

go in building and kill guy

[soft oak]

Mr hands gigs are so very morally ambiguous for the most part

[acoustic mountain]

extra funny when they stand by a window and i can just hack them with suicide

[orchid apex]

I actually rly like the base game gigs lol

[acoustic mountain]

had some gigs i did so fast game didnt recognize the target was dead

[soft oak]

Hack a camera and oh look you have access to everyone and now you can sonic shock and short circuit

[orchid apex]

they at least don't pretend to be more than they are, they're the simple jobs that put money in your pocket

[acoustic mountain]

oh true, tbf my perspective is just a bit more jaded after doing the entire game of them

[trail bronze]

i quite enjoyed the padre gigs

[orchid apex]

sweats in this being the second time I've done all the gigs

[acoustic mountain]

id say theyre above the average fetch quest, you get lore, and options to do them

[trail bronze]

'god wants you to shoot up this bar'

[orchid apex]

God Padre is so good

[acoustic mountain]

and a lot of them the peaceful option is cool stuff

[toxic prism]

My favorite Dogtown gig is the Cop/Dodger one

[orchid apex]

padre, regina, and wakako are the best fixers

[trail bronze]

it's such a nice change from all the like hustle biz money guys

[toxic prism]

And also the Child Athlete one

[orchid apex]

they also have the best completion rewards

byakko, seraph, and axolotl fuck

[icy pecan]

Regina has soooo many gigs

[acoustic mountain]

regina has a ton of gigs

[toxic prism]

Byakko especially fucks

[acoustic mountain]

but theyre all in wattson

[orchid apex]

Regina's long in the tooth I can agree with that

[toxic prism]

It's my favorite katana

[acoustic mountain]

so i finish them all before the heist lol

[icy pecan]

Wakako is like do 8 gigs and you got the best katana

[orchid apex]

byakko and a sandy makes me a happy streetsam

[acoustic mountain]

dino is only 5 gigs

[toxic prism]

Also the Dogtown Cop Gig is an Action/Comedy Movie

Any disagreements

[orchid apex]

Does Jinguji sell like

undershirt vest & tie type stuff?

Or does that stuff disable overclothes?

[toxic prism]

Are you making John Wick

[icy pecan]

I speedline to act 2 cause I want my sandy

[soft oak]

Does axolotl work with Overclock

[orchid apex]

More like 'if Johnny Silverhand was trans and wore a Valentinoesque vest and tie under his plate carrier'

[orchid apex]

Is Overclock another cyberware?

[soft oak]

Well it’s a cyberdeck ability

But only accessible by a perk

[orchid apex]

oh then I have no fuckin idea lmao

[orchid apex]

replace the current jacket with Johnny's Samurai Jacket and you've got the look

[icy pecan]

Overclock makes body/int combo real broke

[gilded vale]

Damn really disappointed that the Hercules is an assault rifle and not an LMG, would have loved a new one to round out the top end of body builds

[orchid apex]

you know, pistols being Cool in 2.0 initially bothered me, but now it makes total sense given the perks

[acoustic adder]

wheres el cap?????

[trail bronze]

there's no excuse for that haircut

[orchid apex]

lmao

Reyes is cool

[fervent lagoon]

tech sniper through a wall

[fervent lagoon]

iconic synapse collapse is so broken

blood pump for regen plus synapse collapse extending overclock trivializes encounters

[acoustic mountain]

oh god, i should

[fervent lagoon]

the highlight enemies through walls eyes plus a tech weapon is very funny

[soft oak]

You have to forgive him he was a corpo

[toxic prism]

He's a corpo who realized he was a dick, and became a cool fixer who helps his community

[fervent lagoon]

hacking is still busted but it takes a bit to get there

also the 100% quickhack crit cyberware

which is uh

"the tits" as the kids say

[soft oak]

Overheat is a death sentence with that

[fervent lagoon]

synapse collapse is doing like 30k damage once I burn all my ram

it's insane

err

synapse burnout

[soft oak]

How does eating a bag of pickled eggs give me 4 extra ram bars

[fervent lagoon]

them's good eggs

[icy pecan]

Each pickled egg has RAM on it duh

[fervent lagoon]

err

hold up

what

[orchid apex]

lolwut

Also

Fury

Holy shit?

It activated four times in a row for me?

[fervent lagoon]

oh

so the COX-2's 0.5% is actually 50%

I think they typed it in as 0.5 rather than 0.005 because that would explain the flat 1000% damage boost

[orchid apex]

How's your cap so high?

[light anchor]

you can loot cyberware cap chips

Also level 60

[trail bronze]

i feel like the drop rate fell off a cliff after phantom liberty launched

they seemed much more available beforehand even if the bonus capacity disappeared sometimes

[willow harness]

I have a vest and tie undershirt, got it as a random drop though

[acoustic mountain]

46 hours in, finally upgraded from yorinobus pistol for my stealth gun

[fervent lagoon]

cyberware capacity shards, level 60, edgerunner perk

[orchid apex]

I mean if you were upgrading it that makes sense lol

[acoustic mountain]

ive been upgrading it along the way

just got the seraph which has slightly more damage at tier 5+/5++

[orchid apex]

I also switched from kongou to seraph lmao

also how are you getting to 5++? is that a PL thing?

[acoustic mountain]

maybe?

it takes 200 tier 5 components and you can go from 5+ to 5++

[orchid apex]

god damn lmao

debating whether I'm gonna switch from seraph to the Malorian atm

[acoustic mountain]

i mean i use the seraph for stealth

[orchid apex]

oh for me pistol isn't my stealth weapon, it's my main combat weapon

well that and a katana

I have a throwing knife lol

juggler is actually rly useful even if you only have a single throwable

what do you use otherwise?

[acoustic mountain]

if i go all out i just use a smart smg

[drifting patio]

Which one?

[acoustic mountain]

overclock for insta lock just deletes everyone with endless headshots

this one rn

[drifting patio]

I'm quite fond of the Prototype Shingen, even though it's a 3 round burst that you have to keep clicking for

Nice

[coral karma]

So, for the last couple of days I have been unable to call upon my vehicles, anyone else experienced this?

[fervent lagoon]

did you do the quest where delamain fixes your car?

[coral karma]

Does that quest lock all your cars?

[drifting patio]

It shouldn't, but it might be

[acoustic mountain]

missing the story locked mr hands gigs, but it is done no more side gigs or ncpd hustles

[fervent lagoon]

it does

[drifting patio]

Huh, weird

[trail bronze]

this happens to me a fair bit

saving and reloading seems to fix

[orchid apex]

god ncpd hustles

[coral karma]

This fixed it

[orchid apex]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9797?tab=posts

We out here

[willow harness]

Oh Sweet Lord

[orchid apex]

If this has working facial animation I uh

I may have to download this lmao

[drifting patio]

So here's a question, Is Byakko really the best Katana, and if it is, by like, how much?

Cause, I dunno, I'm hearing everyone say it's the best, but it didn't really feel like it's abilities were doing much to me

Wishing I hadn't missed out on Satori, cause I don't even know what it does but it might look cool so :(

[acoustic mountain]

dlc has a iconic vendor that sells missed iconic weapons

might be able to get it there

as for what it does, its a combo weapon with nehan

[drifting patio]

I was thinking more the actual look of the weapon, and sadly I don't have the DLC

[reef stirrup]

go do the DLC Jenny :p

its gooood

[drifting patio]

I'm liking Jinchu-Maru, though

[acoustic mountain]

im waiting for reed to call back

[reef stirrup]

Ohhh

You might need to rest at the Dogtown apartment?

Iirc its kinda buggy

[acoustic mountain]

if it doesnt happen for a while ill try that

[light anchor]

it is but katanas "soft cap"

you can only attack 2 times a second with a sword

so later on other katanas do better because attack speed no longer matters

[drifting patio]

Ah, I see

Thank you

[acoustic mountain]

lad spotted

[orchid apex]

Is it possible to complete the story without doing Judy’s stuff?

As in without even calling her

[light anchor]

You have to do clouds to unlock VDBs

[acoustic mountain]

besties

[orchid apex]

?

[toxic prism]

I got a mod that makes the cockatrice a bit better

[light anchor]

actually lemme think

[fervent lagoon]

tempting

right now it's honestly a toss-up between thirty percent crit and being able to see through walls

[light anchor]

nope, not possible without automatic love

[icy pecan]

Do you stealth at all

Or use tech weapons

[light anchor]

you're required to meet alt to trigger the final meeting without hanako, I believe

[icy pecan]

I'd choose cockatrice every time unless it's for stealth or tech weapons

[lone lodge]

yeah. you have to complete all three main job lines to get to Hanako

[light anchor]

that means it's not possible to never call Judy since you have to call her to track down evelyn

[lone lodge]

Yep.

[light anchor]

the minimum number of times to interact with her is 3

[lone lodge]

technically 4 if you count the epilogue voice mails

[orchid apex]

Fugg

Hate 'er

[lone lodge]

Judy?

[light anchor]

judy is nice...

[swift mist]

it doesn't, it just locks out the Hella.

[light anchor]

you might just have no cars

[reef stirrup]

I like Judy a lot

[swift mist]

it still has the bug where ignoring johnny in one specific mission makes the relic malfunction overlay stick around so i imagine there's other hangups like that though

[light anchor]

most recent patch fixed this bug I think

[swift mist]

not sure about that one

[drifting patio]

What's wrong with Judy?

[orchid apex]

If Judy has no haters I no longer live

[lone lodge]

Fun Fact! You can get Jackie's ARCH at the start of the game if you send his body to Viks at the end of Act 1

[reef stirrup]

They specifically called that out as fixed

[light anchor]

or if you go to his funeral

[acoustic mountain]

you get it either way

[light anchor]

if you send him to his family you can do an ofrenda

[swift mist]

did they release .03

[lone lodge]

if you send his body to Vik's you skip the Heroes quest

[reef stirrup]

What exactly is your issue with her?

[light anchor]

I'm not mechanics brained enough to skip a genuinely pretty touching quest

[orchid apex]

She just had a really bad first impression and her continuing downwards before going back up just made me not like her

[lone lodge]

I didn't deliberately skip it, I just found that out when I decided to pick some different dialogue options for my 3rd playthrough

[light anchor]

yeah viks one has payout

[orchid apex]

Her basically telling you to fuck off when you call her, playing the tit for tat quid pro quo games the other paths do while also being part of the reason you are terminally ill

[light anchor]

||if you do Arasaka ending. They make a Jackie engram for you if the body went to vik||

[orchid apex]

Like no

Your girlfriend's heist is the reason I am terminally ill and you want me to be your fucking errand girl?

No

[reef stirrup]

Uh, Judy even says she thinks this is a bad idea to Evelyn

IIRC

[orchid apex]

Maybe it's cuz I did her path first in my first playthrough where the tension of having a timebomb in your head is very high

idk she just

man

Man ™️

[reef stirrup]

Wouldn't really place responsibility on her

[light anchor]

Evelyn deliberately kept Judy uninformed

[acoustic mountain]

i mean, she sees you as the reason evelyn disappeared, idk, i dont fault her for not wanting to talk with you at the start

[light anchor]

she also doesn't know you're dying

[toxic prism]

If anything blame Evelyn

[acoustic mountain]

yeah she thinks youre after ev for revenge or something

[toxic prism]

Or the Voodoo boys

The Voodoo Boys are pretty big assholes tbh

[orchid apex]

Shit Jenny maybe I am

[toxic prism]

Both on a micro and macro scale

[light anchor]

Evelyn intentionally made sure that Judy didn't know what was going on, what the heist was, or why she took the job

[toxic prism]

Yeah

[acoustic mountain]

i mean hey, you rp V as you want

if you dont like judy, you dont like judy

[swift mist]

the only character i like is jackie. i must destroy jerald silveranu

[toxic prism]

Johnny's better in PL imo

[orchid apex]

oh god fuck the vdb too

[toxic prism]

He's a lot more grounded

[orchid apex]

Fuck em

[icy pecan]

More Judy romance for me

[orchid apex]

With a ten foot tungsten rod from god

[acoustic mountain]

that i can agree with

[toxic prism]

Vdb?

[acoustic mountain]

fuck vdb

voodoo boys

[toxic prism]

Voodoo?

Ah

Yeah fuck them

[reef stirrup]

yeah the VDB suck ass

[toxic prism]

I'm pretty sure the scene where Placid gives the guy chicken is like

[acoustic mountain]

i went with netwatch this playthrough purely to spite the voodoos

[toxic prism]

The one moment they're not assholes

[orchid apex]

I don't care for nw so I usually go with the vdb

[icy pecan]

Placide really soured the vdb cause apparently placide and Brigitte are outliers amongst the vdb

[toxic prism]

||Don't forget they're intentionally trying to break the Blackwall to be on the Winning Side (Aka the AIs)||

[orchid apex]

and post near death experience play nice until I can get Alt to fry them and gut Placide

[swift mist]

i accidentally killed them on my first run because i didn't realize i was taking all the "i am going to shoot you" dialogue options

[icy pecan]

Not that they seemed to try hard to make them seem nice outside the chicken scene

[toxic prism]

Yeah there's a group in Dogtown that's basically Voodoo Boys who realized how fucked up the Blackwall stuff was

[reef stirrup]

Netwatch is the one big org trying to do something useful so I side with them

[toxic prism]

Netwatch isn't the best and somewhat draconian but like

gestures at the blackwall

[icy pecan]

Netwatch is still a corp isn't it

[reef stirrup]

Yeah exactly

[acoustic mountain]

netwatch are still a corp, and not the best

but theyre not the voodoo boys at least

[light anchor]

VDBs are very interesting from a narrative standpoint tbh

[toxic prism]

They're a Corp who's mission is nominally helpful

[swift mist]

there's one that's like "draw weapon | fuck off" or something and v says "i'll fuckin' body you. i'll shoot you bro. i'll neck ya"

[light anchor]

Especially knowing what Pacifica used to be

[toxic prism]

Because they're actively working against the end of the world

Ywah

Iirc the Voodoo buys were originally Night City Native hackers

[icy pecan]

Destroying the blackwall seems like the opposed of what vdb would want since they made their impenetrable intranet to avoid being hacked by AI

[toxic prism]

But during Pacifica's creation, a bunch of Haiti immigrants were brought in and abandoned

They ended up killing the Voodoo Boys and taking their name

[light anchor]

More specifically

They found the name really offensive

[toxic prism]

I mean yeah

They're very prideful

I'm pretty sure that much is established

[light anchor]

it's why if you ask placide why they're called VDBs he says they're not actually called that in Pacifica

[toxic prism]

They're ants who think they can barter with giants

But the giants probably won't even notice stomping them

If you catch my drift

[swift mist]

me and geriatric stiltfingers is the only good guys in this world. everything i do is no sin

[icy pecan]

They're betting on the AI to be able to take down the rest of humanity including megacorps like Arasaka who have some of the best netrunnera but expect their ramshackled intranet to be perfectly fine with absolutely no backdoors

[toxic prism]

Yeah

Not to mention they're actually like

Nowhere near the skill of Lucy or Songbird

In terms of netrunning

Given Lucy and Songbird have both gone past the Blackwall and lived

[fervent lagoon]

I usually go with NW because as much as NW are assholes the blackwall is not something to fuck with

[toxic prism]

Yeah same

[fervent lagoon]

see the bit in PL ||where you go through NUSA black ops like a knife through butter||

[light anchor]

I would point out that the VDBs have explicitly passed beyond the black wall and lived before

[toxic prism]

||The "Betray Songbird" path is also full of this.||

[icy pecan]

Doesnt Brigette claim the opposite, that none of the runners made it back from the blackwall

[toxic prism]

||An AI possesses Songbird and leaves a trail of destruction Smasher would be impressed by||

[light anchor]

none of the current ones, but its why the current group is there

[reef stirrup]

Yeah, PL spoilers ||Literally everything about the DLC, besides all the amazing character drama, screams "Do not fuck with the Blackwall, it's powerful beyond all comprehension and WILL kill you"||

[light anchor]

Passing beyond the black wall used to be not quite as deadly

[toxic prism]

||ironically, the one Voodoo Boy character in PL pretty much explicitly says this||

[icy pecan]

Even without PL context AIs did take down the entirety of the internet at once in the past so learning from history they shouldn't be messed with

I just wonder where these AI are hosted and where they get power from

[reef stirrup]

||Yeah I wish we had a bit more Slider content, he was interesting||

[toxic prism]

Servers

The same servers as the rest of the internet

[reef stirrup]

Tbf, they had help from Bartmoss on that front

[soft oak]

Literal roko basilisk cultists

[light anchor]

It's presumably the current netwatch efforts making the blackwall so deadly on our side of the wall

[toxic prism]

Yeah

||Also iirc the Blackwall is an AI itself. Just one nominally on humanity's side.||

[reef stirrup]

||Correct||

[soft oak]

The Blackwall AI ||that you can get to make the Erebus Iconic|| spends most of its time making threats

[toxic prism]

I love that gun

[light anchor]

they exist on the old net which physically is a thing
5G cables, pre war servers, etc

[toxic prism]

The Deck you can also make does the same thing

[soft oak]

So I think it’s safe to say that uh at least some AIs are very hostile

[toxic prism]

Though I'm wondering about the implications of ||shoving an AI-connected Cyberdeck into your head||

[light anchor]

The old net was designed so everything was physically connected and no one made that mistake again by 2077

[soft oak]

Alt comments on it I think

[toxic prism]

Yeah if you meet Songbird before Alt, Alt has new dialogue

[soft oak]

That ||you have a back door into the future as far as a lot of them are concerned||

[icy pecan]

I should finished PL all these spoilers are too tempting

[toxic prism]

Ironic how Bartmoss' plan basically backfired in the worst possible way

[soft oak]

Yeah

[toxic prism]

He tried to destroy corporate control of the Net

Instead he just allowed Net Feudalism

[light anchor]

I mean, he was an insane genius

not a policymaker or reasonable dude

[drifting patio]

What do you mean blindly smashing shit doesn't actually fix anything?

[toxic prism]

I'm pretty sure its canon his only friend is Spider Murphy

[swift mist]

really gnarly scene it was hilarious

[light anchor]

Alt too

[icy pecan]

Well he sort of did, no corp can control the old net it's full of brain killing AIs

[light anchor]

alt and rogue

[swift mist]

making wizard gestures and shit

[soft oak]

Those|| NUSA black ops really gave me trouble||

[light anchor]

rogue blames Johnny for making bartmoss even worse

[icy pecan]

I'm hoping we learn what happens to spider Murphy and Morgan black hand later on

[toxic prism]

Which allows Corps to basically create their own small nets that they control and force everyone else to use

As opposed to a single net anyone can use

[soft oak]

Yep

Now the net is entirely corpo controlled

Well the new net anyways

No more isolated pockets of freedom one could find

[toxic prism]

I am very curious about the Blackwall AI

Because they're not like

A Homogenous blob of pure alien evil

[icy pecan]

Imagine having cyberware that isn't networked. I'm sorry old man Jenkins the fact your mechanical lungs don't have a backdoor is illegal

[toxic prism]

You have nominally benevolent ones like Alt and Delamain

[light anchor]

rache canonically assuming that a new, good, free NET would just, spontaneously be developed feels like such a pointed criticism

[toxic prism]

Yesh

It is definitely a "rebel without a cause" theme

[soft oak]

To be fair to bartmoss

He was shot at the time

[light anchor]

they actually changed that for 2077

[acoustic mountain]

i mean, he did setup the deadman switch for the datakrash :P

[fervent lagoon]

the old net is the new net

[light anchor]

in lore he had an entire rock dropped on him after being shot

from SPACE

[toxic prism]

Even if he was shot

[fervent lagoon]

it's running on the same physical architecture just with the blackwall on top filtering out the bad shit

[toxic prism]

It doesn't justify making the world an extremely worse place

[light anchor]

also yeah the idea behind datakrash was

"if i die, i will destroy the net anyway"

[fervent lagoon]

also killing a whole bunch of people

[toxic prism]

Yeah

Like intent matters

But Bartmoss did a lot of damage

[acoustic mountain]

yep

[soft oak]

He was also kinda a screwed up individual

If he was the one who invented Suicide hack

[toxic prism]

Regardless

The AIs we know so far are:
Delamain
Alt
Lillith

Anyone else?

[reef stirrup]

I will be fair to Bartmoss here, the R.A.B.I.D.S virus was never intended to actually do what it did

It was supposed to breach corpo datafortress and perform a mass data leak

[fervent lagoon]

which it did

it also then went wildly out of control

[toxic prism]

Like i said, while intent matters it did a hell of a.lot of damage

And arguably helped the corps more than the average person

[reef stirrup]

Yeah, it did, but then it mutated wildly beyond its original parameters

[fervent lagoon]

skippy, virginia grandchester

[reef stirrup]

Like, I don't think you can fully blame Bartmoss is the thing

[toxic prism]

Whose the latter?

[reef stirrup]

How was he supposed to know that'd happen

[toxic prism]

Also I feel like Orion is gonna involve AIs

[fervent lagoon]

AI author mentioned in a news clip

[light anchor]

considering bartmoss' level of skill i doubt he really considered them mutating a problem and knew about it

[soft oak]

Is skippy really an AI

[toxic prism]

Cause there's definitely a build up of some war going on behind the Blackwall or something

[swift mist]

i can't blame him because the dude's name is moss

[light anchor]

DataKrash is called DataKrash because it fucking kills the net

not because it leaks things nicely

[reef stirrup]

There's no real proof of that tho

[toxic prism]

When I created the Torment Nexus I didn't intend for it to cause untold torment

Regardless

||Mr. Blue Eyes seems be Songbird mysterious Moon Benefactor||

[swift mist]

and "bart"

like... poor dude

[toxic prism]

||Given he shows up in that mission||

[light anchor]

per the book

he definitely knew this was a Torment Nexus when he made it

[toxic prism]

Sounds less like it went out of control and more like he didn't think or care of the implications

[light anchor]

considering he also loaded it into every computer in the world

they were initially designed to "just" attack anything corporate

[toxic prism]

He nuked a city to kill a man inside it

[reef stirrup]

The wiki says otherwise, so I won't argue

Probably rewritten at some point

[toxic prism]

The Wiki could also be wrong

This is directly from the Sourcebook

[reef stirrup]

There are multiple sourcebooks, Cyberpunk aint a new game

[soft oak]

Yeah that’s my belief as well

[light anchor]

this is the most recent RED sourcebook

[soft oak]

Do you think Blue Eyes is associated with Night Corp

[light anchor]

if its 2020 lore it may be different

[toxic prism]

Yes totally

[soft oak]

Because that’s another link in the mystery

[light anchor]

but considering this is the most recent one its what im currently taking as canon

[reef stirrup]

Most likely they're both correct, just written at different points, but the RED one is newest so yeah

[soft oak]

Their rivalry with orbital air

[toxic prism]

Night Corp is shady as hell

Like

Even in-setting nothing is known about them

Plus they're literally working on Mind Control tech

Explicitly

[light anchor]

Bartmoss designed them to attack corporate targets first, but considering he made them self-replicating and planned to unleash them on every computer, even at best you can just say that it's a callous disregard for consequences

[swift mist]

public works corporation
there's was never any way in hell they AREN'T shady

[soft oak]

They seem to be in the business of developing an AI that can manipulate human behavior

[toxic prism]

The connection to Mr. Blue Eyes is that he shows up when the Perelez quest is done

[soft oak]

One which I strongly believe is being used to control Perelez

[toxic prism]

And the Perelez quest is them being mind controlled and having their mind and memory altered

And Night Corp is working on tech that does just that

Theres also shit about like

Project Oracle

And Maelstrom/Lillith

[swift mist]

"how do you stay in business"
"uh, we uh, we, uh, we take care of a city"

[toxic prism]

Also iirc there's a shard in the final mission of the Songbird route. That basically implies someone is tracking yiu

And if you were there earlier, where the Shard was, there was a homeless man with blue eyes

Not to mention the Prophet Gary got kidnapped by Men with Blue Eyes

Like

Literally that's how they're described

[soft oak]

I wonder if

[reef stirrup]

Don't forget Peralez also gradauated from a Night Corp scholarship for gifted youth

[soft oak]

Kiroshi is actually part of the conspiracy

[toxic prism]

Keep in mind Gary, while not right, his ramblings always have some degree of correctness

Like while vampires don't exist, he basically was describing Mikoshi verbatim, otherwise

Incliding the "beneath Arasaka tower" part

[soft oak]

Werewolves also don’t exist but biotechnica wolf man hybrid definitely does

[toxic prism]

And the shard you get at the end of the quest, it has a secret code in the letters that mentions Project Oracle

Maelstrom is also trying to contact Blackwall entities, and it's implied something is responding

Oh, how could I forget

[soft oak]

Yeah I definitely think ai stuff will be front and center of Orion

[acoustic mountain]

well have to see!

[toxic prism]

There are two times in the Perelez mission you get Blackwall-looking computer stuff happen to you

[acoustic mountain]

hope they take their time with orion

and properly this time

[toxic prism]

The first is when you touch the TV and the Blackwall Energy briefly knocks you out

The second is when the Mysterious Men behind the Mind Control contact you, the same thing happens

[light anchor]

sleeper agent gary arc

[toxic prism]

iirc he had an improperly implanted shard

Forget from whwre

But it's the shard with Project Oracle on it

So he was basically getting fed highly classified info from... somewhere

[light anchor]

the game was rigged from the start

[toxic prism]

Though it wasn't installed correctly so it was messed up

[reef stirrup]

I think they have to at this point

[soft oak]

Sandra Dorset is a Night Corp employee right

[reef stirrup]

yes

[toxic prism]

Yep

She's the one that tells you about the Mind Control stuff

Because she wants to blow that whistle

[soft oak]

Yeah

But night Corp knows about that I presume

So I do wonder

[toxic prism]

Probably

[soft oak]

Why is she still alive

[toxic prism]

You can actually contact her in PL to hack Maxtac

And she does it

She's a pretty skilled Netrunner as it turns out

[soft oak]

Int 20 V also recognizes her as a skilled netrunner

[toxic prism]

Yeah

[soft oak]

It’s how you get a pretty hefty bonus

[toxic prism]

She used some pretty high level stuff

[soft oak]

Custom designed stuff even

[light anchor]

imo the scav deal was an attempt on her life

[toxic prism]

Not something your average gonk can use

Potentially yeah

Regardless

There's a lot of AI shit going on in the background

In a sense I think PL is partly buildup for that

Trying to express Blackwall stuff that wasn't explored in the main story

[soft oak]

A world at the edge of destruction

[toxic prism]

Keep in mind we do directly know 2 AIs, Potentially 3

Delamain and Alt

So they could be Potential allies

[soft oak]

Wonder if the devil ending equivalent of Orion would be to do what Brigitte tried to do

Destroy the blackwall in hopes of ingratiating yourself to your new masters

[toxic prism]

I think the Canon endings are ||The Sun/DFTR, and Helping Songbird get to the moon||

Because Mr. Blue Eyes shows up in both

[soft oak]

Maybe

[toxic prism]

That's my theory at least

[soft oak]

I just kinda wanna see Aguilar again too

[toxic prism]

Yeah she is definitely being set up

As a potential character I mean

[soft oak]

They are actually gender indeterminate

[toxic prism]

True

[soft oak]

Their gender depends on V’s gender

Which is weird

[toxic prism]

I just use She because my V is also a She

Yeah

It's probably for gameplay reasons tbh

Given you're pretending to be them

[soft oak]

True but Alex had no issue pretending to be the brother

[toxic prism]

True

[sand dove]

oh I didn't realize Aguilar shifted depending on PC gender presentation

[soft oak]

Yeah Aguilar is whatever gender V is

[sand dove]

cool

[lone lodge]

i don't remember Aguilar. are they from PL?

[toxic prism]

yes

[lone lodge]

ah, okay

[soft oak]

They are a John wick expy from a side gig

Is Alaska a temperate region in cyberpunk

I remember this game set in the future where you live in Alaska and Alaska has winery and stuff now

[willow harness]

I'm still a little mad that there isn't an option for Don't Fear The Reaper where ||you go as V||
||Its literally 'walk in the door and live if you live and die if you die', why can't V do it||

[toxic prism]

||what do you mean? That's the DFTR ending already.||

||If you're talking about going as Johnny-as-V that's a different ending||

[lone lodge]

||also because it's an alternate route into the Sun ending, which you normally go into as Johnny||

||they kinda have to keep parity between the two paths||

[willow harness]

||Ohhhh, I got mixed up, my bad||
||I could have sworn when I did DFTR it was as Johnny||
I'm just bein dumb lol

[lone lodge]

damn lol

nevermind then

[soft oak]

Is songbird evil morty

Cursed thought of the day

[acoustic mountain]

[toxic prism]

No because ||Evil Morty actually planned things out well||

[icy pecan]

Brennan got the ending he deserved

[orchid apex]

Okay so, interesting parallel

Johnny's rant about 'if I gotta kill, I'll kill' etc etc is being repeated by fuckin

Skye

The doll you get a session with in Clouds

[icy pecan]

You do jack into the clouds system and it's analyzes you for compatibility whatever it means. My guess is it found remnants of Johnny

In that same session it's implied the system controlling skye knows you've died, same as delamain subroutines and brennan

[soft oak]

yeah its interesting how AIs seem to all be instantly aware that V is dead

Alt AI describes the condition as being

"You looked at the other side"

and also

"You didn't cheat death. Death cheated you."

[icy pecan]

I wonder if it's related to Gary's ramblings how tech necromancers and if it'd be explained in orion. I'm guessing mikoshi and soul killer stuff might be more prevalent in 2

I wonder what about V's condition that sets off AI to know something's wrong

[soft oak]

probably the relic chip

if it is accessible by the blackwall

because that's how Songbird hacks it

it's connected to the Blackwall

[icy pecan]

That makes sense

[soft oak]

and it explains why the AIs, who are interested in 'becoming you' are invested in the relic chip and Mikoshi

the backdoor to the future wherein they can enter your mind and slip into your place

[trail bronze]

having nanites reconstruct a body and imprint a persona on its brain sounds like a kind of ai level task

i would be surprised if they hadn't had some help from the other side of the wall in designing it

[soft oak]

Alt AI claims that at least some of the AIs want to flood your mind, slip into your place

but they can't

not because of the blackwall but because of the technological limitation

the relic chip changes that

so it's only a matter of time

[icy pecan]

I haven't finished PL but I wonder if the relic is part of the AI's path of basically overwriting certain people to exist in realspace

[soft oak]

i think it is part of their long term goal yeah

it would explain why a lot of them were helping corpos like Militech and Arasaka

and likely helping them develop things like Soulkiller and Cynosure

at least until Blackwall came up and all such cooperations came to a skidding halt

rip the human netrunners who got trapped on the other side

although I wonder if a few of the human netrunners who got severed from their body by the blackwall also became ai constructs like Alt

or if they all got eventually eaten up by the AIs

[fervent lagoon]

iirc the inevitable result of not maintaining a human persona like a SPI is being assimilated

as your sense of self gradually fades

[orchid apex]

I somehow haven't got Chippin' In to trigger

[lone lodge]

have you done Search and Destroy?

[orchid apex]

I have done every tapeworm trigger save any that are later in the Judy path

But I also specifically did Automatic Love after S&D

[lone lodge]

hmmm

do you have another opportunity to trigger tapeworm?

[reef stirrup]

If do the Judy stuff then the VDB questline it'll trigger guaranteed

[severe geyser]

I ask again here, should I do an ending first or PL?

[reef stirrup]

PL before an ending, imo

[orchid apex]

unless there's one after automated love, nah

[trail bronze]

in my view you should start PL at the earliest available opportunity and then just do whatever you find most interesting at a given moment

the relic perks are a lot of fun

[willow harness]

I've finally gotten my tech/body char an orange tech shotgun, an orange Overture, and an orange sledgehammer
Life is good

[orchid apex]

lol nice

[willow harness]

Every so often a bug hits the tech double barrel where it does a normal spread from hipfire, but focuses every single pellet into one 0 spread 'slug' when ADSing
And GOD
How I wish
That was just how the weapon worked normally
But even when the bug decides to toggle off its still a really fun gun to land Bolts with

[fervent lagoon]

slap two orange condensers on it and it'll be a slug

[willow harness]

I think the one I have only has one mod slot 😔
Thats a thing that still weirds me out, too-
Weapons are SO uncustomizable
If its not an iconic you can't even upgrade them to the next tier (afaik), and you can't upgrade the number of mod slots or the decals
So this orange double barrel I've got has one mod slot and this ugly crusty yellow paintjob

[fervent lagoon]

I'll be real I got a mod to add more mod slots and let me remove mods

because that's kind of a dumb system imo

[reef stirrup]

Yeah I dunno why mods are hardlocked

Very annoying

[trail bronze]

there are lots of little quality of life issues like this

they’re lucky the overall experience is so good

[willow harness]

Its no longer half baked, but its now like
three quarters baked
I see my red revolver with flame decals, and put the nice new sight I got on it
And the sight's frame is neon pink and blue
And I go 'why'
'please, why'

[light anchor]

you have to complete the vdb quest to meet alt for the final thing to trigger

tapeworm needs every trigger to go off to fire chippin in

[orchid apex]

Ahh

Fuck

[toxic prism]

Debating if I wanna go through the effort of doing all the NCPD stuff

Cause there's a lot

And I've done every other mission (barring the endgame ones)

[coral karma]

I have been doing them on the way to other missions as they aren't that time consuming to do most of the time

[light anchor]

typically you just need to kill a few gangers and grab a shard

[soft oak]

Just think about all the people you get to kill

[toxic prism]

I like this

[acoustic mountain]

Hey folks, the forum experiment period is almost done so were looking for more feedback on how folks feel, tell us in #1159879685648416849

[orchid apex]

You know

I wonder if someone's done a Silverhand edit with Johnny Guitar over it

[acoustic mountain]

finally found a color of this top i vibe with

black fishnet, not stupid shoulder colors

also found a better smart smg

[bright granite]

Orgh, my computer is not a fan of Dogtown. Any suggestions for what to tone down? no random crowds or w/e, maybe there's a lot of fog

[coral karma]

I kinda dread buying the DLC because of performance

[bright granite]

I imagine it'll be sorted a bit with some patches

It's so noticable compared to NC

well, greater NC i guess

[orchid apex]

I have gotten to the scene where Panam rejects you if you're a chick 😔

Also Johnny saying "On behalf of the staff at the Independent California Motel, I wish you all sweet dreams." uh

Damn Reeves can turn on the charm

Does finishing all the parts of Tapeworm lock you out of any side biz?

[reef stirrup]

Nope

[acoustic mountain]

[reef stirrup]

You're only locked out of side content if you go into a final mission

Otherwise you're good

[orchid apex]

cool

[orchid apex]

we are literally doing the exact same mission lmao

I just left there

[soft oak]

Oh yeah that guns good

[orchid apex]

lmao

[orchid apex]

Is Placide guaranteed to drop his coat should one y'know

flatline him

[bold vault]

There's a mod on Nexus which toggles different graphical effects that is made specifically for boosting performance in problem areas at will

[bold vault]

He should

[orchid apex]

cool

[orchid apex]

Time to fuck over the peeps who started this whole mess

God it feels good to punch Placide lmao

[icy pecan]

Oh I did more than punch him

[drifting patio]

Does anybody actually like the VDB?

Or at least not kill them

[fervent lagoon]

not really

[toxic prism]

They're pretty massive assholes

[fervent lagoon]

I tried to come up with examples because I'm pretty sure there are people who tolerate them but then I thought about it for a sec

[quick zealot]

The VDBs are at the baseline of criminal jackassery that most of the 2077 gangs get up to I think

None of the gangs are particularly more vile than the other I think

[icy pecan]

I think it's how the vdb have 0 respect for you that really makes them hateable. The fixers leading gangs at least respects you for your reputation and skills

Does that make them less crminal? Not really but they treat you better

[quick zealot]

I don't really need constant reminders of respect idk

They're just another bunch of assholes in a big bucket of em to me

[drifting patio]

Do any of the other gangs betray you when you make a deal with them?

Like, even Maelstrom keeps their deal if you pay them for the thingamajig

[quick zealot]

Not that I know of but they do a lot worse to you

[toxic prism]

The VDBs also betray you, and are also actively trying to cause the end of the world

[quick zealot]

Or try to, at least

[toxic prism]

Via piercing the Blackwall

[drifting patio]

It's mostly the betrayal that pisses me off, really

Like, the other stuff is just kinda "Eh, that's what I expected them to do"

[toxic prism]

Regardless I personally dislike them

[quick zealot]

Scavs try to chop you up and sell your guts through tainted BDs, whatever Maelstrom intends to do to you I'm sure it won't be pretty, same with the Valentinos or Tyger Claws

[fervent lagoon]

the VDBs are assholes and also kinda stupid

which is what gets it for me

[quick zealot]

Which speaking of that incident, the Tyger Claws and Scavs are way, way more abhorrent and abusive

[acoustic adder]

only the pacifica ones

and the other VDBs dont like them for it

[drifting patio]

Er, what's that incident?

[fervent lagoon]

maelstrom are hilariously violent, the valentinos are "honorable" but not exactly merciful, the tygers are sex trafficers, the scavs are organ leggers, sixth street is a drug cartel

evelyn

[toxic prism]

Tyger Claws are pretty bad yeah

[icy pecan]

Tyger claws, Wakako respects you enough, but the common tyger claw doesn't if they can. They're not as organized.
Tyger claws you work with and the ones you fight are basically different entities.
Whereas the VDB in pacifica were always out to get you as a collective before they realized you were semi important

[toxic prism]

None of the gangs are good

[quick zealot]

Yeah Evelyn

[toxic prism]

TBF the VBDs were using Evelyn

[drifting patio]

Ah, that one

[toxic prism]

And are at least partially responsible for that

If indirectly

[fervent lagoon]

but all of the above are at least willing to go "eh we probably shouldn't fuck with the woman who can take all of maxtac at the same time" while the VDBs are just dumb

[acoustic adder]

wish there was more like

"wow ur street cred is 50, we're gonna fuck off" moments

[toxic prism]

Same

[icy pecan]

To their merit they think you're just an outsider Mr Hands just threw to them to put ain a blender

[light anchor]

yeah its a shame

[toxic prism]

I can think of only one moment honestly

[light anchor]

this is actually just a mechanic in 2020 and RED

[acoustic adder]

street cred is just level gating but....????? there is no difference

[toxic prism]

Where you scare off some thugs from a noodle stand owner

[light anchor]

so its sad in not in 77

[icy pecan]

VDB have 0 clue or care about who you are since you're an outsider

[quick zealot]

I guess I'm coming at it less from a game protagonist perspective and more from a pragmatist angle

[fervent lagoon]

even from a pragmatic angle it pays to be consistent

[acoustic adder]

yeah vdbs aren't the worst honestly

but they killed ||ev|| so they die

[fervent lagoon]

the reason why gangs have systems of massive response to relatively minor attacks is because that establishes a consistent pattern of "fuck with us, we fuck you up"

[icy pecan]

I assume they're consistent to pacifica natives. Mr Hands basically tells you that working with the VDB as an outsider is a bad idea

[fervent lagoon]

being a backstabbing jackass gets you backstabbed because nobody can trust you

the VDBs are kinda just asshats

[icy pecan]

Well Wakako does a lot of backstabbing other Tyger Claws, it's just you're usually the one enacting the backstabbing for her

[quick zealot]

I think my main issue with the VDBs is that they're also not great in terms of representation

A lot of mystical Caribbean voodoo tropes I think

[orchid apex]

kinda yeah

[fervent lagoon]

they do say that voodoo boys is something that other people call them

but also yes

[quick zealot]

Which does kind of sour me on them from a external perspective but I can also see why people wouldn't be fond of them in character either

[severe geyser]

The thing VDBs is well, thats the point, kinda. In 2020s they where a bunch of white kid drug dealers co-opting Voodoo symbolism to seem scarier. The haitian leadership and netrunning focus is a recent thing, they changed focus but kept the symbolism.

[acoustic adder]

Pretty sure thats the point

[swift mist]

the scavs also run red rooms

[acoustic adder]

Yeah

Honestly no gang is worse than like

Arasaka

I need a debate settled

Who is worse scavs or arasaka

[drifting patio]

Arasaka

[soft oak]

Arasaka

[swift mist]

both

[light anchor]

arasaka would do the things scavs do without blinking if they were profitable

[soft oak]

For creating the condition for people like the scavs to thrive in the first place

[acoustic adder]

True

[drifting patio]

Arasaka does pretty much anything the Scavs do, at a larger scale, while also creating the conditiona that allow Scavs to exist

[brittle sable]

Peak solo fashion is just a big coat and combat pants. Literally a timeless look.

[drifting patio]

Big pants or Big jakt?

Why not both

[acoustic adder]

Yooo lookin drippy

This was mine

[brittle sable]

a fellow solo fashion enjoyer I see

[acoustic adder]

Yessss

Also about uh

Arasaka vs scavs

Scavs torture people for paying viewers

Arasaka does it for fun

Like what did they get out of SKing johnny?

I guess it was a prototype test?

[drifting patio]

Revenge, all his memories including how and where he got the nukes

[acoustic adder]

Doing something for revenge is basicaly doing it for fun

[drifting patio]

Aye

[soft oak]

Scavs also kill people for revenge/fun

[acoustic adder]

Well sure

But arasaka is a multi quadraquintabillion eddie corporation

Scavs are a few homeless people with big dreams and aspirations (the dreams are your kiroshis, the aspirations, taking them)

[stoic marlin]

oh hey, i found Suzi Sphere Hunter's role in the cyberpunk dlc

[acoustic adder]

Who

[stoic marlin]

cool youtuber who does video game stuff

[quick zealot]

Oh yeah its a funny gig

[acoustic adder]

Oh

Stella?

[quick zealot]

Also wrt soulkilled Johnny, it's for interrogation or further mind fuckery to uncover other dissidents

[acoustic adder]

Yeah

[icy pecan]

Jesse Cox And CohhCarnage is the only cameo I know as burning dick guy and gary the prophet respectively

For youtube/streamer cameos

[toxic prism]

Oh yeah

Forgot about the burning dick guy

[brittle sable]

Lana Pearce has a cameo as well

[icy pecan]

Mr Cox really decided he wanted his cameo to be sex implant malfunction

[icy pecan]

I've never found her despite like 3 playthroughs

[orchid apex]

If we're sharing drip I have Malorian P.I. up in this bitch

[brittle sable]

Don't remember how I got the gig for her, but you meet her out by the landfill.

[brittle sable]

Drip

[fervent lagoon]

also I expect that a non-trivial number of people at arasaka lost friends and/or loved ones to the AHQ bombing

the tech who comments that her husband died etc etc

[quick zealot]

Yeah that too

[orchid apex]

It is indeed drip but I'd rather a tucked in vest and tie to sell a 'Tinos look

[brittle sable]

Swear I've seen something like that while playing

[orchid apex]

on a 'Tino mostly likely lol

[toxic prism]

I do find it interesting how most of the Fixers in 2077 aren't like

Evil

Like they're sketchy but only Wakako and Hands are obviously evil

And even then they still have their moments, and are still affable

Like Hands talking to his Daughter

El Capitan, Padre, and Regina are also arguably good (in the "doing crime for good reasons" way)

[orchid apex]

Johnny's bender is so hilarious and so fucked at the same time lmao

[icy pecan]

Wakako is still an arasaka puppet

[toxic prism]

And also completely in-character

Is she?

[orchid apex]

Aw fuck Wako is what?

I am lowkey so disappointed

[toxic prism]

I imagine if she is, she's smart enough to stay 1 step ahead of Arasaka's direct attention at least

Like she does give you and Takemura a map of the parade

[icy pecan]

In edgerunner she's listed as an arasaka fixer asset. And maiko and Judy with corpro background will say Tyger Claws are really run by Arasala

[toxic prism]

Mhm

[orchid apex]

That's fair

[toxic prism]

I mean she's only nominally connected to the Tyger Claws at this point

Thougg I cant argue the former

[icy pecan]

They're more like, disposable mercs with completely plausible deniability

[toxic prism]

Yeah

[icy pecan]

But 99% of time they're left to their own devices

[toxic prism]

They're used as a Catspaw basically

Regardless

I do really like Mr. Hands in PL

He's like... shady but trustable, if that makes sense?

Trustable in the sense you know your valuable to him

And he obviously values the connection, if only for pragmatic reasons

[orchid apex]

Wako is like an evil grandma who has a soft spot for you

[toxic prism]

Yeah

[light anchor]

yeah this is completely unsurprising given their background is literally funding from arasaka

[toxic prism]

||Hands also basically runs Dogtown by the end of PL||

[light anchor]

wakako is most likely playing her own game

[toxic prism]

||Which gives him a lot of soft power||

||and plenty of hard power as well||

[swift mist]

oh because his name is

ohhh

[orchid apex]

I promise the bloody canyon across town wasn't me Rogue <XD

[light anchor]

she's got connections not just to arasaka but also to multiple other major japanese corps and night city's higher education

of all the fixers you deal with wakako is most likely the one who's the most "in charge"

[toxic prism]

Does Wakako have any kids?

[light anchor]

she does!

[icy pecan]

9 sons I believe

[toxic prism]

Cause I feel like she'd unironically be a good grandmother

Can't say why

[light anchor]

she has a lot of grandkids as well

[icy pecan]

From her 5 dead husbands

[light anchor]

if you're streetkid, she divulges she lets you run the hit on the parade as revenge for arasaka letting her grandson die in the unification war

[toxic prism]

She seems like she'd love her grandkids

[icy pecan]

She does what she does to take care of her sons

[quick zealot]

Padre's my favorite if only for the implications of terrible violence

EL PADRE SABE

[toxic prism]

Padre is also a priest

[icy pecan]

I liked padre he's like a redeemed gangster

[toxic prism]

Who is also a Fixer

Which is fun

[icy pecan]

And he's always nice even if you do a quiet mission loud

[toxic prism]

Regina is a former Media who realized the best way to do good was to do bad, if that makes sense?

Iirc Mr Hands is a former petrochem corpo

[light anchor]

he is

he got used as the scapegoat for the petrochem/sovoil war

[toxic prism]

And El Capitan is a former corpo as well, dunno which Corp though

Ah

El Capitan is pretty nice as well

He cares a lot about the people of Santo Domingo

Like one of his new missions is stealing medical supplies from Arasaka for the people of Santo Domingo

[light anchor]

also, it may not be obvious if youre not digging

but the tyger claws main deal is mostly luxury supplies and entertainment

including cyberware

[toxic prism]

Yeah

Entertainment also means prostitution and whatnot though

And they've turned people into dolls against their will

[light anchor]

yeah

wakako's gigs seem mostly about pruning those unwanted branches

[toxic prism]

Like one of the Cyberpsychos is a former Unification War veteran who's daughter got Doll'd and killed when the Veteran tried to help her

Which is why he went Psycho

[orchid apex]

ideally the network of mercs and fixers gets used to do Robin Hood type shit

[light anchor]

to use a stock phrase

[toxic prism]

(A lot of the Psychos are tragic)

[orchid apex]

Sadly, no one can work for free

[toxic prism]

That's basically what Regina is doing tbf

[orchid apex]

Oh yeah

Gina is the closest to that

[toxic prism]

And Padre and El Capitan

[orchid apex]

I'm glad to be on her payroll

Padre I'd say is a close second

[light anchor]

wakakos gigs basically are all "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down" but youre the hammer

[toxic prism]

Rogue also has you take out a Union Buster

Pro Bono

Regardless

I like doing good

That's why I made myself 80% machine and kill every criminal I come across without mercy

[light anchor]

also thinking about it

considering that wakako controls japantown, westbrook, little china, and kabuki with her claws and contacts

that means that probably like, a quarter of night city is wakako land

and yet she only gives eight gigs

curious

[toxic prism]

But yeah

[icy pecan]

She's good at her job

She's got a whole gang to do most of her dirty work for free

[fervent lagoon]

my V has been getting steadily more violent over time as a reflection of how I'm giving increasingly less of a shit about keeping enemies alive

[orchid apex]

Me but with being reckless as fuck

edgerunner, max cool, reflex, and technical is a helluva drug

[swift mist]

it's not my fault the monowire dismembers everything in a 50 meter radius,,,,

[orchid apex]

It is my fault I use byakko leap finishers to yeet idiots off buildings

[soft oak]

Same haha

I used to feel bad when I killed the gangoons

But now I’ve taken the line of letting god sort them out

[drifting patio]

Look, if they shoot me, they should have been prepared for me shooting back.

[orchid apex]

I think this new haircut is better tbh

look's too understated at current for the big hair to really work

Tho she now very much gives off 'fancy loose cannon cop' vibes

So I found a shirt with Valentino collar things lol

[orchid apex]

Think I found it lmao

[brittle sable]

Nice

[toxic prism]

I hope CDPR takes the lessons they learned from 2.0 and PL and apply them to Orion

[bright granite]

God I hope they keep it first person

[toxic prism]

Same

[lone lodge]

There is very little reason for them not to

[willow harness]

Yeah like I'm not sure why one would think they wouldnt

[lone lodge]

Making it 3rd person would change the gameplay style a lot

[bright granite]

Oh I just saw a bunch of twitter discussion about a rumor there, was it way off

[willow harness]

I think any speculation about Orion is like
Not worth taking as truth
Like, Orion is a playtest name

[lone lodge]

Development hasn't even properly started yet

the studio that will be used to make the game starts operating early next year

[reef stirrup]

Wait, is it not being developed in house?

[drifting patio]

Depends on what you mean

It's a new CDPR location/branch or whatever they're called

Office?

[reef stirrup]

huh

[lone lodge]

yeah

new office

in Boston

[icy pecan]

Wish granted, it's now a first person card game

[pale saddle]

That sounds like a VR card game where you're sitting at a table and holding a hand with the VR controllers.

[lone lodge]

Cyberpunk Inscrypted

[stoic marlin]

pretty happy with this V fit from the dlc

[orchid apex]

That does definitely sell a cool and consistent vibe

almost a 'Queen Bee' look?

All the gold and black and patterns

Queen V, long may she reign

[stoic marlin]

you can fire her from arasaka but the corpo fashion cant be lost

[orchid apex]

This is true

Even with leather pants, leather shoes, and a leather coat

My V still wears a vest and tie

[orchid apex]

We are finally gonna get the Samurai jacket and Malorian

"Finally lookin' half -decent."

[severe geyser]

My Corpo V

[orchid apex]

I see in her past she was a doorkicker xD

Meanwhile mine looks like

If an FBI agent liked leather

[severe geyser]

Oh yeah no my Corpo dirtied her hands in the field before becoming a desk jockey in counterintel.

Also, on my netrunner, I have all tier 5 in my deck.

[orchid apex]

god damn

[severe geyser]

The gun's for show, this man can kill you with his mind before you blink.

[orchid apex]

"I work in construction"

[severe geyser]

He's a Nomad, they dress practically what can I say.

[fervent lagoon]

my V kept a suit of tac gear in her wardrobe with the assumption that she'd get her hands dirty every now and again

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1159959976714965132/1160329820719300609/image.png?ex=6534445b&is=6521cf5b&hm=91edbef9b914b7c0f113e9b269e1d4debc0226b851cfe4555481485c2f56ee2f&=&width=1618&height=910

[orchid apex]

welp accidentally locked myself out of Johnny's Porsche lmao

already have the cheevo tho, so it's fine

I have achieved the final loadout and final look for my V

Save for upgrading all my weapons and ware to 5+

[drifting patio]

How'd you lock yourself out of it?

[drifting patio]

Cause, the guy still drops the key if ya kill him, you just have to find the door yourself

[orchid apex]

Oh you can, cool

[acoustic mountain]

new fit, with that one top everyone likes :3

(i wanted to make one with the black mesh, but i cant find pants that i feel match)

[orchid apex]

Very nice

[stoic marlin]

Its a cool top

[orchid apex]

man I still rly like how my V looks

Streetsam, but still trying to look 'professional'

[orchid apex]

Malorian P.I.

[soft oak]

Raiju is hilariously powerful in vehicle combat

Because uncharged auto fire goes straight through vehicles to hit the intended target

And auto target fire from vehicle seat appears to have perfect accuracy

It also has hilariously fast burst fire

[fading gate]

God, I never tried netrunning when I played last

it's so powerful

I can kill a room full of people from stealth without ever entering a room

[acoustic mountain]

is the mission where you need to get slider just impossible to do stealth?

it literally forces me into combat even when i do a stealth takedown out of view of everyone

[fading gate]

I'm sure I stealthed that in my last playthrough, but it was years ago

[acoustic mountain]

its in the dlc :P

this part specifically

[fading gate]

wait, hmm

I don't know what I'm talking about then

[acoustic mountain]

reloaded far back enough

and its working now

[toxic prism]

Whose Slider again?

[acoustic mountain]

hands is so
daddy
love him

[toxic prism]

He's literally a daddy

(He has a daughter he loves )

[brittle sable]

I return with some more V-fashion.
Biker Samurai, Casual Saturday and Spec-Ops

[orchid apex]

biker samurai looks nice

use of the netrunner suit is a good touch

[orchid apex]

Would there still be enough black to unify the look with Johnny's jacket?

mostly cuz it also literally says Samurai on it lmao

[brittle sable]

I tried, but the colors didn't work as well as this one. Besides, I like the touch of blue on it.

[orchid apex]

Totally fair

Think I've finally finalized the Malorian P.I. look

Johnny's pants were too shiny

But these slacks with the touch of weird stippling on the pockets, the red complimenting the red symbol on the back of the jacket, and the fact they're boot-cut work much better

also look good with the black to red hair

Look good on Jackie's bike too lol

[acoustic mountain]

i left for half a fucking second

the fuck happened

[stoic marlin]

dirt hungry

car tasty

[willow harness]

The Burya is a little sad in this version of the game, now that I'm all kitted out and can compare
Like, it still blows up heads but feels a little bit too much like a pistol now lol
And it's charge window is so short I feel like Bolt bugs out, REALLY hard to do multiple in a row
Maybe this is my chance to run the Malorian instead

[severe geyser]

I have an Ex-disk, memory boost and ram upgrade, what should I ditch for the COX-2?

I went with the Ram upgrade, i'm down to 20 Ram, but 100 percent crits is to good I can't not to get ot.

[trail bronze]

once you have overclock you can kinda forget about ram anyway

[severe geyser]

TRUE. Body Tech Int combat hacker build pretty good.

[icy pecan]

I've always wanted to try a body tech int build with monowire but hacking feels weaker than guns or blades

[acoustic mountain]

want these glasses so bad

[icy pecan]

Have you've attempted murdering her?

[acoustic mountain]

no :P

[fading gate]

So far I've felt like hacking might be too good, having cleared rooms with sonic shock>contagion

I'm not using the rest of my toolset enough, so I'm tempted to switch to sandevistan

[fervent lagoon]

hacking is insanely good

[icy pecan]

What's the secret

[fervent lagoon]

even before the COX-2's bugged damage boost

it just scales well

and the iconic effects get dumb

iconic synapse collapse adds 5 seconds to overclock per person neutralized

and endgame it will oneshot

[toxic prism]

I have done all the NCPD things

Now literally all that reminds is the endgame quest