#Signalis

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green zephyr
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"remember our promise... you still owe me thirty pounds.... for the pitza...."

trim bronze
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the pitza...

green zephyr
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Next up: Lowry and Halligan in the final boss arena

mellow moat
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"God save the Great Revolutionary. Even if she's wearing an ugly green suit."

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||THE SKELETONIZED BODY OF ELSTER-512 WAS FOUND IN A DESERT NEAR THE RED GATE ONLY A FEW CYCLES AFTER THIS CONVERSATION||

copper barn
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https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/2248549 in case this wasnt posted

Picrew

inspired by the game signalis by rose-engine! i'll likely add more items in the future

feel free to use as a profile pic, etc, just be sure to credit me! (datastring on tumblr/xenonical elsewhere)
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mellow moat
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i think it was idr

summer onyx
copper barn
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Cute!

mellow moat
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hamwürger 😋

summer onyx
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Nooooooooooo!!

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I just googled "birds in germany" and then googled the german name of one of those birds (the shrike) and it had an r at the end so yippee

abstract cape
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heh nice

gleaming widget
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The biggest challenge is to make a proper arconym from the german word

patent sparrow
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i just dident

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i made a new system and all my Signalis OCs are named after dogbreeds

green zephyr
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who could forget BRZI

patent sparrow
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have you seen me ramble before?

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BRZI are in the game

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its a type of enemy, you cant actually play as a BRZI

summer onyx
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like what the hell could wrgr even stand for and how would it match with the bird

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shrikes are known for impaling their food on branches to save for later, which is really grim and sorta edgy, but a less grotesque version of that could be securing supply stashes and intel behind enemy lines for invading allied forces

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a sort of commando if you will

gleaming widget
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I think it would help a lot of I understood german sadcowboy

summer onyx
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true

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I shouldnt have been slacking on my duolingo lessons

mellow moat
summer onyx
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yeah

lethal drift
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this feels like the inverse of "despite everything, it's still you"

glossy wing
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it's part of replika destablisation

summer onyx
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ariane replika?

summer onyx
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was infodumping to my girlfriend about stuff and ended up blabbering about the red eye. does any of this have merit as a theory or no

wanton bear
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There is ||also a huge red eye watching over Elster and Ariane in the Artifact ending||

abstract cape
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be nice if at rotfront you saw the
wait did the ship crash on rotfront the first time and that's why there's all the snow?
i know the red gate is basically a portal

wanton bear
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I take it more as a symbol of the Entity

abstract cape
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just a snowy place

wanton bear
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It’s really unclear where that is but it’s snowy and has 2 suns

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(Probably ||carcass or something||)

abstract cape
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love this fandom. either really sad or goofy/cute stuff

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ok so is serpinski the place they crashed? cos how do we even
wait no serpinksi is where ariane could have gone

wanton bear
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The ship probably did crash on any known planet

abstract cape
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why do arian and elster connect with falke and the like? did they crash on that planet?

wanton bear
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Because ||Falke walked through the Sierpinski Red Gate and accessed whatever Ariane was doing one what I’m (dubiously) calling the Carcosa Red Gate||

abstract cape
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oh so the red gate wasn't caused by ariane

wanton bear
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There’s a note about her being different after checking out the ||gate discovered in the mine||

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Unclear

abstract cape
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cool

wanton bear
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It’s either ||Ariane, the Entity, it’s naturally existing, or the Empress attempting to be reborn||

abstract cape
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who was psychic

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so that makes sense

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you think elster gives a shit about the magic stuff?

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or is just going along like 'ok guess im here now'

mellow moat
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elster just wants to fulfill the promise at this point im guessing

abstract cape
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what makes the new elsters keep popping up? it doesn't seem like a time loop cos there's more than one of her

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or maybe it is and the bodies just pile up?

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but if that was the case surely the people elster kills would be around too
wait no, cos they keep reviving on their own!

wanton bear
abstract cape
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wait yeah, ending has you fall down in the place where we see a dead elster. said elster then gets stripped for parts by the first version we see

wanton bear
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The Elster ||you strip for parts is also the Elster-you in the Memory ending||

abstract cape
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the one where ||ariane doesn't remember her?||

wanton bear
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I think so yeah

abstract cape
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ah right

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also, you see ||what ariane turns into. big blog. so yeah, kill her.|| put an end to this and hopefully the loop stops

abstract cape
mellow moat
wanton bear
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Oh that’s wild

abstract cape
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nice

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ooh cool theory i just found: the world is a dream but it's ||ariane making it on purpose for elster so she's in the right mindset to kill her||

mellow moat
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i imagine it's some like

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marathon w'rkncacnter shit

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||dreaming god distorting reality||

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||and you'd best hope they dont wake up ever||

abstract cape
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Ooh cool

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Wait so that got affected by ariane being psychic

summer onyx
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I missed the gates as a piece to the puzzle

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I never really considered that they're significant

summer onyx
green zenith
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I love them

summer onyx
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I'm glad it's a hit around these parts

stone jolt
golden mortar
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wow that was fast

mellow moat
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also that's the like

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last QTE from kuze's final encounter in yakuza 0

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this one

stone jolt
orchid moss
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Voice Quills Signalis crossover let's fucking go

summer onyx
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I started watching that and I couldnt make it past the first fucking note

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not again

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this game made me sad with a capital sad

green zenith
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Man that game was such a Bad Experience

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I'm going to replay it with my girlfriend ❤️

mellow moat
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i cant play it again

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genuinely

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if i do i will be miserable for the next week

green zenith
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Yeah I couldn't (and wouldn't want to) by myself either

summer onyx
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that's EXACTLY what happened to me

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and inevitably will if I play it again

mellow moat
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winter was the wrong time to play it

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the SAD is hitting hard in january

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it always does

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worst thing to ever happen

summer onyx
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YEAH

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you get it

abstract cape
lethal drift
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you're just walking around in Sierpinski and all of a sudden you hear son of a gun start

abstract cape
abstract cape
abstract cape
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ooouros (que-jeanne)

summer onyx
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fantastic images

trim bronze
gleaming widget
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jerma kolibri

summer onyx
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jolibri

lethal drift
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love the Arar, working class heroine

summer onyx
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true !!!

mellow moat
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kolibri gaming...

atomic forge
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Kolibri985

mellow moat
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something something peep the horror

green zephyr
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powerful theory; ||the bioresonance flesh warping wasn't reflections of ariane's experience with dying, it was her thinking about the peep the horror jerma bit||

atomic forge
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Lmao

abstract cape
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who's jerma again?

patent sparrow
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Jeremy Elbertson is the gestalt that Elster is based on

atomic forge
lethal drift
green zenith
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She put all of her gayness into that one punch

summer onyx
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wod combat system but soaking damage is directly related to how gay you are

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I feel like adler has an untapped well of gay energy within him but he's too malewife to bother using it

green zenith
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soooo

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the world of darkness combat system tonejoking

summer onyx
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he's never needed to so he doesnt

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stamina is not homosexuality I think

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but wod is unexpectedly potentially very gay

green zenith
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yeah I'm just thinking of like VtM and stuff, which I think is part of the same setting

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I'm not super familiar with WoD, and what I do know is often incredibly bad

summer onyx
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yes

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vtm, wta, mta, etc

summer onyx
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pretty stereotypical representation of natives, but not cowboy movie dated I think

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I havent seen the sourcebook though so idk

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so while there's some parts that are pretty shitty, you can remove or change them to your tastes without drastically altering the setting

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I personally find it fun for its more in-depth character creation, the combat system, and the fact that it's a roleplaying game altogether

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but this aint the WOD channel!

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this is signalis

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tangent over

green zenith
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signalis good

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girls good

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girls.... kissing?

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good

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signalis 🥰

summer onyx
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girls kissing!

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ahahahaaaaa heyyyy ayyyyyyy ahahahaaaa

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anyways

trim bronze
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I got in on the fanzine project

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sadly they have a word count limit of like 1500, I don't know if I can compress the idea I had from this into that lol

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I will have to think of something new

atomic forge
gleaming widget
summer onyx
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the JRMR replika

patent sparrow
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i could add JRMY to my robot girl rpg as a boss enemy at the very end not tell anyone

golden mortar
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Oh god it's happening

rough idol
patent sparrow
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what would they use a Jerma replika for

green zephyr
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Immeasurable bioresonance capacity

patent sparrow
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but he cant use it

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he just makes a fool of himself

acoustic niche
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Jerma has his own localized bioresonant disaster, it's called The Horror

patent sparrow
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first instance of a bioresonant memetic kill agent

summer onyx
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alright signalers

green zenith
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Signalis

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That's it, that's too deep

trim bronze
# summer onyx alright signalers

If you look at old trailers a shot is shown of a character who looks very similar to one of the photographed Vinetan soldiers from the Itou family's photographs. iirc the woman wears glasses and has thin braided twin tails. This can be inferred to have been Lilith Itou, presumably the aunt of the Itou twins.

The boss in Nowhere, known to the community as "Chimera," is referred to in the files as "Nue." This matches as a viable reading for the Chinese character/kanji which is briefly displayed on the screen before the fight. The Nue in JP mythology was a chimera born from the vengeful spirit of an enraged mother, who took flight to murder the emperor. She was slain as a monster by two people working together, one of whom was her unwitting child.

From these two facts you can infer that Lilith Itou was intended to have played a larger role, possibly as an antagonist for Isa Itou. As it stands currently with the release version of the game the "Nue" boss can be simply interpreted as being a manifestation of the oppressive feelings Isa has about her sister's imprisonment, and her relationship with her family.

acoustic niche
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this is some gigabrain next level shit who's got the iceberg meme

wanton bear
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Ok that was a really good answer I was gonna say if you know who Rebecca is

golden mortar
orchid moss
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Y'all I think
I think Voice Quills played Signalis

wanton bear
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Lmfao

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Brainworms got another one

rough idol
mellow moat
mellow moat
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i like it

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ponytail ariane...

glossy wing
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thats itou

green zenith
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Everyone is Alina if you try hard enough

summer onyx
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everyone is ariane if you interpret it in certain ways

green zenith
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that is definitely a necessary step to "everyone is alina" theory 😂

abstract cape
trim bronze
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🫵 you are ariane

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(giant tumor)

summer onyx
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:(

abstract cape
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The true true ending

summer onyx
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I wish

abstract cape
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Wait could we have broutht falke with us or was she corrupted?

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Cos we see her pre melting

summer onyx
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I don't think she was corrupted but she for sure was fucked up in some sort of way

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although during the fight she did LOOK corrupted, so there's that

abstract cape
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She thought she was elster but looked like ariane

summer onyx
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this quiz called me a basic bitch

mellow moat
ripe barn
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she did not look well yeah

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falke that is

green zenith
mellow moat
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i love how fucked up the corrupted replikas are

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none of the metal rots

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only the flesh

green zephyr
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i'm a working class hero conga conga conga conga

atomic forge
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We got Storch…

patent sparrow
green zenith
acoustic niche
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I also got Kolibri

trim bronze
mellow moat
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variant of the ADLR line of replika

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cut due to development time constraints

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was going to be seen playing a piano in rotfront, in a room near the meat grinder

summer onyx
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is jrmr trippin off the beat kinda

lethal drift
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the second cruelest thing Eusea ever did was make the Kolibri and then say No, you cannot pat their little heads

stone jolt
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You can pet their little heads

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They are also just feds

summer onyx
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might wanna spoiler tag that

surreal ingot
rough idol
stone jolt
patent sparrow
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GOOD. its what we need

gleaming widget
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can't frickin believe this

surreal ingot
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we're jelly, we got diagnosed as a basic bitch 😔

summer onyx
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I feel like I'm not social enough for eule

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self-diagnosing as a star

surreal ingot
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honest mood

lethal drift
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too short for the COMP/CON screen

gleaming widget
mellow moat
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YES

stone jolt
summer onyx
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

green zenith
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I don't get it

gleaming widget
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They turned her into tomatoes and squeezed her

green zenith
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Oh it's the fluid from the tank

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Gross 😄

mellow moat
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the bloodiest mary...

summer onyx
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is that blood?

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because she was frozen so like

trim bronze
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It isn't red normally, just that the coloring is dramatic in most of the shown angles

mellow moat
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I’m guessing it’s just ice water

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either with blood mixed in or it’s just red because half of signalis is red

sacred juniper
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Made this in source filmmaker a little bit ago. Never posted it here @orchid moss

orchid moss
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Nice

sacred juniper
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We do love us some lesbian robots

mellow moat
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i made a mistake putting this in my liked songs i cannot be crying on the train 🥹

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genuine self sabotage

rough idol
abstract cape
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posted that already

summer onyx
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if I was trying to animate this I'd start bawling every attempt

mellow moat
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real

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rainy is so good

green zenith
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Yeah she's a real treasure for the community. We're lucky to have her.

mellow moat
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i remember they posted an animation roll and i was genuinely impressed when i learnt they did shit professionally

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🫡 🫡 🫡

stone jolt
green zenith
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The ship Elster and Ariane were on is the Penrose 512, Elster is LSTR 512 because she's the unit assigned that ship

abstract cape
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Ah right

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Ooh armoured core. Nice

stone jolt
trim bronze
lethal drift
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does Elster not know she can switch the submachinegun from burst to auto?

green zenith
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Maybe it doesn't have full auto, it looks like it's a "security" weapon for use in cities

wanton bear
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The T in LSTR is for Trigger Discipline

green zenith
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The L is obviously for Lesbian

ripe barn
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What R stands for tho

green zenith
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Robot

summer onyx
green zenith
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Lesbian Something Trauma Robot

green zenith
summer onyx
ripe barn
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I chose to not type out the above

mellow moat
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sex trigger is what it’s called when elster gets her ||new hand after losing it in the fake ending||

orchid moss
mellow moat
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Jane signalis…

abstract cape
mellow moat
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It’s also the painting that ||ariane made on the Penrose||

abstract cape
abstract cape
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ooh, get a cool flesh arm instead

mellow moat
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if elster had a devil trigger we would’ve got a happy ending

abstract cape
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that's so cool!

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gets a style meter and gets triple s on falke

summer onyx
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I should try for the other signalis endings

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even though Id cry

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a lot

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how would I go about that

abstract cape
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I made a short animation to celebrate the 1 year anniversary of SIGNALIS to thank the devs for making such an incredible work of art that will stay with me for the rest of my life. To the devs and this wonderful community, thank you!

Isle of Life modeled by me.

VO by @kuripa_chan

Face rigs by @Liz_Caingcoy

Elster, Ariane, and Penrose model...

▶ Play video
glossy wing
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good ending!

summer onyx
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whoopeeeee!!!!!!

abstract cape
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Ariane packing this is what cracks me up

abstract cape
mellow moat
green zenith
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elster is cute in glasses

mellow moat
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it’s true

abstract cape
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ok so alina seo was some lady that had an elster gf, right?

summer onyx
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maybe

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their relationship is ambiguous

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unless I missed something

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it's theorized that our elster fell in love with ariane because her and alina are doppelgängers

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which would imply a lot of things that I dont think really work

green zenith
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MY THEORY/UNDERSTANDING

glossy wing
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or at least, in some way the modern elster

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alina seo is very important

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i recommend if you're interested to read the lore doc staffen has posted a few times

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it explains it much better and more concisely than i could

green zenith
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is that

welll spoilers I guess?

||Alina and Lilith(?) were lesbians in the army a long time ago. Lillith was a really badass soldier and was used as the blueprint for all LSTR units.||

||Ariane joined the penrose program and went into space. She was partnered with an LSTR unit, LSTR 512. They were then lesbians together in space. (Oh is that what S stands for? 😄 )||

||That LSTR unit failed and Ariane was put in cryo. This LSTR unit was then used as the basis for all future LSTR units because of the failure of the big Replika mind vault thing. This is why, even though there have been many LSTRs in the game, they all have the same memories and relationship with Ariane (and Alina too).||

||So all the LSTRs we see are really like a copy of a copy, so it's original gay army girl -> LSTR 512 -> all of our LSTR's||

summer onyx
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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OH FUCK

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

summer onyx
summer onyx
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I sorta put the ||elster units having a second blueprint thing|| in the back of my mind because I was thinking "well I guess I'll see what that's all about later" but it didn't really come up again

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or so I thought

wanton bear
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I am not 100% sure that ||LSTR 512|| is the template in the vault because that's... really weird

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It's not impossible but it raises a lot of questions imo

summer onyx
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regardless of if it's ||lstr 512|| this still makes a lot of things make a lot of sense

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@vague atlas by the way. this is here. in case you ever wanna Experience the Content in signalis

wanton bear
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Yeah it being a copied LSTR is pretty explicit but ||if it's LSTR 512 that means that the whole 512 mission was somehow recovered which seems... very strange||

summer onyx
vague atlas
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You know me so well

summer onyx
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just thought I'd share 👍

vague atlas
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It scared the shit out of me when someone pinged me from here I thought there was an @ everyone incident

summer onyx
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lol !

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like that one time in osp

vague atlas
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I spent half an hour trying to find that ping because I keep half the channels muted and hidden

summer onyx
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you have wisdom and strength that I cannot comprehend

green zenith
# wanton bear Yeah it being a copied LSTR is pretty explicit but ||if it's LSTR 512 that means...

yeah I think it is because ||Ariane was bio-resonant, so if she was put in cryo I could see her abilities actually making the super unlikely situation of their ship being recovered happen. The LSTR unit they used as a blueprint for all future LSTRs was, I think, 512, which was recovered from the crashed penrose much later on. Because again, there was a bioresonant woman also onboard the ship.||

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||it is explicitly mentioned that the unit used as the basis for all "second generation" LSTRs came from the Penrose Program||

wanton bear
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My feeling is honestly that ||that particular piece of information is corrupted by the loop since recovering the Penrose 512 seems almost impossible||

glossy wing
glossy wing
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unlikely

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especially because that spoiler block is wrong

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512 was not used as the basis

green zenith
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🤷

glossy wing
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the unaltered timeline doesn't make any sense that way

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vineta's archive fell long before ariane even applied to the penrose program

green zenith
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Per word of god, the game is meant to be a dream within a dream kind of situation

glossy wing
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penrose was also never recovered and is even more unlikely to have crashed on anywhere

green zenith
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I like my theory because it's poetical

glossy wing
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its a theory that's come up a lot but it's never really worked

green zenith
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I don't know that anyone has a 100% accurate "here is exactly what happened" without handwaving stuff away because of inconsistencies

glossy wing
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having a 100% accurate theory is impossible but the 512 is the new pattern theory is one that just starts to open a huge amount of inconsistencies and really mess up a lot of the point of a few lore documents

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if @trim bronze is around they can probably explain it a lot better than me but i believe the current prevailing theory is that the pattern used to create 512 is very very uncertain at this point and establishing it as any named character is really hard

trim bronze
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It's explained in the file found in Adler's office that all new LSTR production is done via a Penrose unit.

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So generally it seems that various models of Replika may or may not have multiple different potential source personalities from the Neural Archives. The one which was used for Penrose specifically was chosen because her base personality was detached, self-sufficient, and favorable to isolation or even bleak conditions

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But the war on Vineta destroyed a lot of the infrastructure for Replika personality imprinting. It's mentioned that several neural archives were lost. So they simply took an LSTR unit from the project and fridged her to use as the basis for new LSTR's

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So whereas you maybe have multiple personae to choose from for, say, a STAR, all LSTR's are built using the same basis as LSTR-512

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Which also probably does not make them very stable either

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If you want to imagine this as being a particular version of Elster who is trapped in a box somewhere, that would also mirror Ariane's own situation in a way

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Sleeping, rolling over, becoming something new each time

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New and yet also the same

wanton bear
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I was under the impression that it was one template per type of replika

trim bronze
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The description for Eule implies they share one singular source personality

glossy wing
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i did consider the 512 theory for a while which is why i got here

trim bronze
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And then MNHR's mentions alternative personalities for variant models (Schnaeppers), but to what extent you consider this new vs. alternative models

wanton bear
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I do think the Penrose crashed somewhere (carcosa prolly)

trim bronze
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If you think of them from the perspective of synchronicity, it's not necessary in the first place

glossy wing
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im on the side of penrose never really crashed, but i think whether it crashed or not, its probably impossible for elster to be her own progenitor, even in a dream

trim bronze
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All LSTR's simply resonate with Elster-512

glossy wing
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i think that 512 and all current elsters are likely connected through their destablisation

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well, this is when we get back to rule of six

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because im a six theory believer

summer onyx
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like when/how would that happen

trim bronze
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to put it simply

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they're getting hit by cosmic gay beams

glossy wing
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ironically rule of six is actually not hugely important to six theory

trim bronze
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and all going similarly crazy

glossy wing
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yeah pretty much

trim bronze
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because they all share a root identity with Elster-512 and they also resonate with her situation

summer onyx
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aha

glossy wing
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the in depth explanation of destablisation involves long talks about how replika patterns appear to retain some consciousness of their original self, requiring fetish objects to maintain a stable personality and the avoidance of self-recognition

wanton bear
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My theory is that the Penrose really did crash on some strange extrasolar place (the opening snow place has very hard to spot twin suns) and the events of the game are started by Ariane interacting with the Carcosa Red Gate

glossy wing
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elster units have a pronounced one because theyre all copied from an already existing unit

trim bronze
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(which also look like a nuclear disposal site)

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so I think we're never going to be able to find a unified theory

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And I like it that way

glossy wing
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for a normal replika destabilastion, imagine someone walking alongside a cliff

trim bronze
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the fandom, eternally arguing, rolling over in their dreams until everyone is too tired to continue

wanton bear
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yeah Signalis is weird because it supports multiple cogent theories at once

glossy wing
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at various points they teeter near the edge and you push them back on

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elsters, thanks to being patterns of patterns, are presumably always on the edge of the cliff

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and theyre also all connected by arianes cosmic gay beams

wanton bear
trim bronze
wanton bear
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ah thank you

trim bronze
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Please do everything in your power to disseminate the term "cosmic gay beams"

glossy wing
trim bronze
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I would like to see this being argued about in the next 600-page Signalis thesis

glossy wing
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you know how theres all the storchs in the shower

wanton bear
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haha

glossy wing
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this is because they are storks

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and they need to stay wet or they go crazy

trim bronze
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or rather when they are going crazy they seek water

glossy wing
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yeah

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theyre very appearance conscious

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kolibris!

wanton bear
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I just figured that their template liked showers honestly

glossy wing
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the swan lake theme isn't just swan lake

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kolibris pattern references ballet as being their stabilising fetish object

glossy wing
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the fetish objects are basically things that probably comforted the original person

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and crucially also didn't provoke any feelings of self-recognition

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this is why elster is allowed certain things she likes and not others

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music is good, war films are bad

summer onyx
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glossy wing
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elster likes movies, but they're also like, something that provokes a sense of recognition in her due to the war

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the cruel joke is that everything ariane loves is marked as elster's DNI

wanton bear
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Though I get the sense that "persona degradation" is just the state's term for them not being disassociated and starting art clubs in the vents and not something which is really harmful to the replika as a person

glossy wing
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yes

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it's not like, going to kill them

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it'll just cause severe mental anguish and breakdown eventually

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but more importantly theyll stop doing their jobs first

wanton bear
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Yeah you get this

glossy wing
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eventually you get uh

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falke.

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and adler.

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and elster.

wanton bear
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I'm not sure that's persona degradation for at least the first couple of those

glossy wing
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adler's is likely degradation

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his diary is a really interesting example of it imo

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wanton bear
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But I broadly agree with the "chinese theory" about ||The Empress trying to use Falke as a bioresonant antenna to reincarnate||

glossy wing
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falke is like, ultra-advanced cosmic gay beam enhanced

acoustic niche
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soul read: persona degradation and whatever's happening in the timeloop are not the same thing

glossy wing
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like it's not physically harmful to them

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but if you discovered that you were in fact not you, and were instead an artificial construction made from a dead you, and there's thousands of other yous, mental breakdown is probably a normal response

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Yeah the Eusan documents about persona degradation focus on its progression making them ineffective, but I suspect probably they're a lot more delicate mentally than a normal person

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wihch is not helped by environment

acoustic niche
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Carefully selected by AEON, exemplary citizens of the nation are permanently cryogenically preserved in Neural Archives, each becoming a neural pattern for a new Replika Model. To preserve the image of the Replika as an incorruptible ideal, the original Gestalt is erased from records and public memory.

During the production process, when experienced bio resonant technicians copy that neural pattern to a new unit, a majority of episodic memories are altered and suppressed.

While the resulting Replika maintains the skills and personality of the original Gestalt, it will be incapable to recall specific events from the life of the donor under normal circumstances. This ensures that the Replika performs its duties without distractions created by personal memories of the donor.

However, even the best-maintained Replika unit will eventually be exposed to stimuli that may cause Gestalt memories to resurface. While units degraded in such way pose no particular danger, like all units with Persona degradation, they will eventually lose many of their advantages over Gestalt workers.

Because Persona Degradation is usually difficult to identify from the outside, bioresonance is used by command units to surveil units under their command. Generally, it is recommended that to swiftly decomission and replace units before their productivity decrease or they begin to show clear signs of individuality, When ammunition is rationed, alternative ways of decommissioning may be deployed at the discretion of local Operational Command.
glossy wing
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the state sees their mental crisis as a work problem

wanton bear
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I actually have the opposite view of persona degradation. Like obviously its a bad thing to realize you are an enslaved mechanical clone of a person kept cryogenically frozen for the state's benefit but the replikas who are "degrading" or have otherwise individuated are the ones who aren't becoming killer zombies

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glossy wing
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that's timeloop stuff though

acoustic niche
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It seems pretty self-evident that persona degradation is the process of the Replika persona (ie the identity of the Replika as an obedient slave) falling apart because the original memories and personality are reemerging

glossy wing
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like the killer zombie timeloop stuff and regular persona degradation are probably very different conditions

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So Replikas are aware that they are Replikas,

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That there existed a template personality before them

acoustic niche
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I don't know that the second point there is a fact

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I think, as the text describes, the recollection of Gestalt memories results itself simply leads to a condition where, as a result of the dissonance between an assumed self and their original being, they develop personalities which are contrary to their intended purpose as proscribed by the Nation

glossy wing
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do replika personalities exist in the world of forms

acoustic niche
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before and after images of the persona degradation process

summer onyx
glossy wing
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i can't wait for 2026 when we've created a new philosophical theory of self-identification and personality based on signalis

wanton bear
glossy wing
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this is notable

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im saying thats a very not-normal situation

wanton bear
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oh yeah fair

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glossy wing
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i think that when persona degradation advances to a certain stage they become aware of it

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Adler casually mentions "oh, memories of my past life" in his journal, prior to him losing his mind, and while he probably is capable of handling restricted info, you then get things like the Star in the mines or Beo

glossy wing
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i think all of the people that we can interact with are in some form of advanced degradation already

trim bronze
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Also, there's documents in the game, like the one in the Pareidolia room, which imply a public awareness that bioresonance is not making artificial people from scratch

wanton bear
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I think "its officially a secret but a lot of people know anyway" kind of makes sense for the kind of impersonal dysfunction of the Nation of Eusan as a totalitarian state

acoustic niche
wanton bear
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Which is hardly evidence ofc

trim bronze
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I think it's simpler to assume they know

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Think of NHP's in Lancer

glossy wing
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i think theyre vaguely aware

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but fully aware during full degradation

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actually i think this gets into a question of like

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how much does the replika personality have of the original personality's experience

acoustic niche
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If you remember going by a different name and having a completely different set of self-assessment criteria I think you just have to accept that you remember another life at some point

glossy wing
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im operating under the assumption that the entire experience is there, but buried

wanton bear
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same

trim bronze
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And then there's Falke,

wanton bear
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Since I think replikas are basically a way to copy and paste someone's skillset

trim bronze
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Who recognizes that the memories implanted in her by Ariane's resonance are not hers

acoustic niche
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the stolen document says that everything's there but the irrelevant memories are suppressed right

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so it's like

wanton bear
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I think Falke is the memories georg of Signalis

trim bronze
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lol

summer onyx
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guh

glossy wing
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falke i would probably discard for talking about normal patterns of anything

acoustic niche
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a cheaty way of copy-pasting someone's skills and knowhow without their memory but all you did was paint a layer over the rest of it

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and then someone comes and edits the layer out and boom it's all still there you lazy bum

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glossy wing
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like she's a 2 metre tall flying woman being hit with cosmic gaydiation and likely some state secret fidel castro Ultimate Cow Replika

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3m

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almost

glossy wing
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i couldnt remembe rthe exact height

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but the rest of that is true

acoustic niche
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by going a few steps further do you mean murder or dunking a basketball through her halo

trim bronze
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can you elaborate on "Ultimate Cow Replika"

glossy wing
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ok so do you know about fidel castro and the ultimate cow

acoustic niche
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oh no

trim bronze
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no

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I do not desire to know currently because I should be working

glossy wing
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basically to quickly summarise a lot of events

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fidel wanted to create a cow possessing the notable qualities of all cows

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more importantly

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he wanted a cow that could produce more milk (bioresonance) than any other cow, for the glory of the nation

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hence, ultimate cow replika

acoustic niche
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most importantly Castro was a fucking milk fiend

trim bronze
#

Castro's milkers

acoustic niche
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like absolutely calciumpilled

glossy wing
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the ultimate cow was touted as the triumph of the nation's science and as a symbol of the success of the nation

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it's a fairly stable analogy

trim bronze
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An off-comment from Cyan has led me to the conclusion that Falke units are modelled off the persona of the Empress

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I don't really have a strong argument for why

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I just think it's neat

wanton bear
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I also think this yeah

glossy wing
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but basically that's the Ultimate Cow Replika

trim bronze
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it also enables Great Sadness

acoustic niche
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dunk a super-bioresonant in the Forever Tube and then copy her x as many times as you feel like

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boom

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unlimited supercows

glossy wing
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yeah

summer onyx
glossy wing
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crucically the failure of castros supercow was that it couldnt be replicated

acoustic niche
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and they did not succeed in cloning it but they tried

glossy wing
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and also it wasnt being hit by gaydiation

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falke is a replika, and hit by gaydiation

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she's not just the Ultimate Cow, shes the Successful Ultimate Cow

acoustic niche
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gayradiated tho

trim bronze
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Funny thing that I noted was the choice to describe Falke units, collectively as "prototypes"

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which frankly does not strictly mean any particular limits but implies they are one-offs each time they're made. maybe.

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or a stepping stone to something else

summer onyx
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perhaps a pseudo-empress?

acoustic niche
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no backups no blueprints

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that's what it means

summer onyx
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very strange choice of words

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also would falke being based off of the empress give the "ariane is the empress' attempt at reincarnation" theory a little more gas

trim bronze
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On that note I am still malding because the fanzine word limit is a paltry 1500 words and I am unable to do anything with this idea
#1159920094885990561 message

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well I can still write it but I'm not posting to AO3 until people give up on the AI shit, but still, it would have been perfect

acoustic niche
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Do an entry in the ADLR's diary

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👍

summer onyx
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I love the adlrs personality-wise

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they seem like interesting people to hang around

trim bronze
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He strikes me alike to a really angry little chihuahua

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just totally fucking sucks but he also knows about everything that's going on

glossy wing
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oh yeah

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who wants to hear about six again

summer onyx
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meeeee

glossy wing
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we haven't talked enough about signalis' structuralism

wanton bear
acoustic niche
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1500 words is so little

glossy wing
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currently, i believe that there's an entire set of signalis theory unexplored through the interpretation of the game through the number six

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i think that Six-ing is actually a lot more coherent than it sounds

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glossy wing
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the number dominates the game

trim bronze
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keeping her stuck in an endless cycle of suffering without forgiveness

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And the Replikas of the Nation are unable to give up on their leader so they refuse to let her die

glossy wing
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this is actually the main reason i have iffy thoughts about increasing the number of inventory slots

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it messes up a really interesting structuralist take if you do it

trim bronze
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As do I but if it lets people play who wouldn't have otherwise played then whatever

acoustic niche
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increased inventory slots but if you go over 6 items at a time you get cursed

glossy wing
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i just feel like from a personal perspective

wanton bear
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I think its a nice concession to playability but I only really like making some of the niche items not use one myself

glossy wing
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would i like more slots?

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yes

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would i like to disrupt the structuralism?

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only cursed thigns down this road

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more broadly i think its the first point you can really explore the six structure and if you alter it it makes starting six-intrepretations harder without doing artifact ending

summer onyx
glossy wing
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to talk about six structuralism and the inventory, the slot limitation isn't the only reappearance of the number six

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six and five are the only multiples that ammo exist in outside of the flare gun

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the key of sacrifice contains a hexagon, inside a hexagon, inside a hexagon, inside a hexagon

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four sixes, contained within one inventory, another set of sixes

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held by one elster

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another set of sixes

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six sets of sixes!

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the key of love contains six perfect triangles

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the key of eternity contains a central star and six surrounding

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six tarots, six planets, etc.

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six-ism in signalis is really cool

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glossy wing
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also one last cool six

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there's six visible sides to the triangle of the penrose program's logo

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so i think six is very important, unfortunately i don't really understand what it means despite its domination

trim bronze
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did you mention the fact that when you turn a cube onto a perpendicular angle you see six faces

glossy wing
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also a great point

trim bronze
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(the artifact)

glossy wing
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oh and there's the obvious with the plates

trim bronze
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(the Imperial icon)

glossy wing
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the artifact is a cube which contains a cube

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inside is a book which is an imperfect cube

trim bronze
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you might call it a hypercube

glossy wing
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this cube leads to a spot where six elsters and six arianes in six crowns lie in six beds in a hexagonal formation

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every flower on the lily of the artifact ending has six petals

trim bronze
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I'm just thinking to myself that we all sound incredibly normal talking about this fucking game

glossy wing
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we are normal

summer onyx
glossy wing
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it's the non-sixers who aren't

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they just don't appreciate the structural beauty

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less jokingly though

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be a sixer, its a cool way to replay and interpret signalis

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also one more interesting and important six

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the crashed penrose, sierpinski, nowhere, the red space, rotfront, home

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fun fact

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do you want to know how many variations of Isle of the Dead there are?

trim bronze
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is it 6

glossy wing
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sixing is one of the things that 100% sounds utterly insane if you start to discuss it, but also permeating everything once you start to look for it

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unfortunately though i dont think theres a connection between 512 and six

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it's the ninth power of 2 but like that's a stretch

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if you're really insane you could argue 5-1+2

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I wonder what this convo sounds like to someone normal

wanton bear
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512 is also a mirror in the game

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Like the 512 key

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Which is called the key of eternity

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Which, for a dumb analysis 5+1+2=8 and 8 sideways is the infinity symbol

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Which does appear in game

trim bronze
glossy wing
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ok so I've been thinking more about six

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And I'm starting to think it's connected to replikas, degradation, and the stuff about imperfect copies and repeats

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each of the six copies of isle of the dead is all the same concept, piece of art, etc but also different each time

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the six elsters and arianes are like that too

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They're all elsters and arianes but also simultaneously different and individual

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the plates have various differences between each plate, but all share identical bases

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each flower on the lily is identical in design and petals, but varied in size and arrangement

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it's all imperfect repetitions

summer onyx
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idk if you mentioned this already, but there are three important characters who are all doing things for their respective person

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adler and falke, elster and ariane, isolde and her sister

glossy wing
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Haha

summer onyx
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spoilers for the ending of the game, me ranting and theorizing a little bit

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all of this except for the parallels part assumes a specific interpretation of how persona degradation works, which is I THINK the correct one but I could be missing something

glossy wing
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btw, i am writing up a document to collect all sixes that seem relatively intentional, so @ me if you find any

ripe barn
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A buddy of mine went - I will figure out the secret ending myself!

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I wish them luck on their foolish journey

abstract cape
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i like the silly animatic stuff the fandom's made

abstract cape
summer onyx
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fuel for the parallel

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Holy Shit

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who was the woman with white hair that adler remembers from his gestalt life?

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could adler have been the imperial spy on rotfront?

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I forget that this is a whole entire discord server dedicated to lancer because I use only this channel

summer onyx
abstract cape
abstract cape
summer onyx
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likewise

abstract cape
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nice seeing people that like berserk

patent sparrow
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Berserk? I thought it was the war girl from chainsawman

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Made into falke

acoustic niche
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it was a comment on falke's "likewise"

patent sparrow
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I em disintegrated

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Your right

acoustic niche
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who the hell is Steve Jobs?

surreal ingot
abstract cape
summer onyx
wanton bear
mellow moat
orchid moss
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The Falcon

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(Source is me)

stone jolt
golden mortar
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This is cursed

orchid moss
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summer onyx
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true

wanton bear
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While I don’t really find this offensive I will note that pilotnet does have a no war crime jokes rule which I ought to bring up

white valley
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ough right sorry

abstract cape
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Originally I had planned this to be a shorter, audio drama just to vent a very specific emotion I couldn't express through writing or describe with words. When I saw this ending I finally found the feeling I've been trying to describe all this time, so that's why a few things are a bit different than the original. Thank you Rose Engine for impac...

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mellow moat
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god this game is so fucking good

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🥹

abstract cape
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from the game so no need for source

abstract cape
rough idol
mellow moat
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leaked footage from the vinetan war

summer onyx
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I keep reading that as vietnam

stone jolt
trim bronze
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A cautionary tale about breaking the Rule of Six

stone jolt
mellow moat
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that's rad

summer onyx
mellow moat
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good art! also sorry to hear that!

summer onyx
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like "I think I have covid" like I can't breathe/am coughing (a natural response to being unexpectedly flustered)

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(at the artwork)

abstract cape
stone jolt
golden mortar
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Signalis OST as arranged by C418

white valley
mellow moat
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i love the save noise so much

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i dont think i posted the other marioinatophat signalis meme

summer onyx
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oh god

thin crypt
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It says this and then shows Blame cover right next to it

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Google is so cooked

acoustic niche
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I think this is an edit

abstract cape
abstract cape
summer onyx
patent sparrow
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EULR are my favorite

mellow moat
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i like aras and starlings

summer onyx
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i like fire trucks and moster trucks

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falke

mellow moat
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tru

summer onyx
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reason number one to be a kolibri: kolibri's height
reason number two to be a kolibri: falke and storch's heights

surreal ingot
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SO true

summer onyx
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you get it

golden mortar
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You're spitting ngl

mellow moat
summer onyx
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sure that's cool, but if I got to work with women three whole feet taller than me on the daily basis my life would be made, telepathy or no

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and FURTHERMORE, kolibris are the perfect height for falke. I shant elaborate

surreal ingot
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okay we're gonna say SO true but we're gonna pair it with a 🤨 this time

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we're sure you understand

summer onyx
patent sparrow
#

this the fit that killed Ariane when she saw it

acoustic niche
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RIP my girl for real

abstract cape
orchid moss
mellow moat
surreal ingot
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oh my god she just is huh.

mellow moat
#

tiny tiny woman

surreal ingot
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"safely"

green zephyr
#

"perhaps, clonk this is clonk clonk hell." clonk

orchid moss
surreal ingot
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she's not "fine" she's in Elster Plinko

orchid moss
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She'll be fineeeeee she has a promise to keep and no Elster Plinko is gonna stop her

summer onyx
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adler pushed you down a shaft and a bunch of dead elsters cushion you from the plinko

mellow moat
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imagine those competitions where you have to count how many jelly beans are in a jar but it's counting how many elsters are in the elevator shaft

rough idol
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i think it comes around to 88 elsters iirc

mellow moat
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damn

rough idol
vague atlas
orchid moss
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Yeah well did that laptop have a wife they needed to get to to fulfil their promise

stone jolt
acoustic niche
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EXCUSE YOU

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SUZI???

mellow moat
mellow moat
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there were new scenes in the video too

mellow moat
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them

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(the voice sounded similar 🥹)

abstract cape
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isn't it 6k or something like that?

rough idol
patent sparrow
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me, my girlfriend and her 8ft tall Replika of me

violet surge
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Also, hello, I finally finished the game and found there is this channel

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I have no major commitments to any theories on what the hell is going on, but I know the game is very interesting

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Also also, does anyone know what the kanji in the flash up screen of “This Space Intentionally Left Blank” is?

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Like, is it related somehow??

wanton bear
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As far as I know it’s this

mellow moat
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im just talking about their insane music videos for RAT WARS

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dusk HD rat

glossy wing
abstract cape
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i love that this is a meme in the fandom now

green zephyr
#

i just went to their website and they advertise their discord with asuka and rei????

surreal ingot
#

based....

mellow moat
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and also Shadowheart

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yes that is a from software tattoo on his chest

mellow moat
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just heard the fucking signalis save sound in pyrocynical's newest video

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: )

summer onyx
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OMG

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can't wait for the lesbian to talk about his own kind

mellow moat
#

awful fucking thumbnail but

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video was good

summer onyx
mellow moat
abstract cape
#

cute

stone jolt
summer onyx
summer onyx
golden mortar
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They spend so much time kissing they don't have time to clean the house

summer onyx
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i infodumped to someone about signalis today

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she seemed pretty sold

wanton bear
orchid moss
summer onyx
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this is true

uncut quartz
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It's how we cope with the trauma the game made is go through

summer onyx
lethal drift
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this one hurts me

summer onyx
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signalis ocs are for emotionally damaging u more than the source material itself already has

abstract cape
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i wish the gameplay was like this

abstract cape
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i dunno why their comments are always switched off

summer onyx
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be ause people are evil

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for some reason theres discourse about all the yuri being misleading

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which like sorta? but also there being discourse over that is so stupid

patent sparrow
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thats such a stupid argument. this is fan art

acoustic niche
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some people can't separate fan content, made by fans, who are not the creators of Thing, from Thing enough

golden mortar
summer onyx
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become the star

glossy wing
abstract cape
uncut quartz
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People just want to be angry about the stupidest shit

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Sometimes

glossy wing
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it's just all we see of them is the true painful suffering at the end

summer onyx
#

yeag

violet surge
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Like, there really is a Star and Euler couple in the game, they’re just making videos of the imagined stuff before the game

thin crypt
violet surge
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Ye

crystal plank
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@dry marlin

dry marlin
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So like

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Ariane flies by the place where the mine is and bioresonates with something there

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Either she was already fucked or she got fucked by bioresonance

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Crashlands on the planet and Ariane’s presence causes everything to fall apart

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Elster bioresonates with Falke and they both resonate with their root Gestalt personality

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Elster confuses Alina and Ariane

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Plot occurs

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Everything until you reach the first evangelion ass scene is real

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At which point Ariane’s bioresonance has a death grip on the world

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You manage to get through it and kill her like you promised

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This does not feel like a complete understanding of the plot but its the pieces I can put together in my head from what I just experienced

reef lagoon
#

Mynah/Beo best girl

dry marlin
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Maybe Elster puts Ariane in the cryo pod instead of killing her

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And then Signalis happens because of the crash releasing Ariane to unleash holy hellfire

reef lagoon
#

The catalyst to that game is the one part I still don't get

dry marlin
#

Well like

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Ariane was in a position where she was highly bioresonant and dying slowly and horrifically

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So I get that she like

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Caused all of this

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But the actual inciting incident yeah

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I don’t get it

reef lagoon
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Bioresonant ari + bioresonant falke + ?????? = Signalis

dry marlin
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  • some insane actual eldritch god hanging out in the mines found by falke
reef lagoon
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I couldn't distinguish that from the general madness

dry marlin
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Falke definitely enters the mines and comes out fucky

reef lagoon
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I thought that was the moment she and Ari "connected"

dry marlin
#

Mayhaps

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Its so awesome how this game takes inspo from all the weirdest shit of all time

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“Yes, put in Lovecraft. YES, put in Nier. YES PUT IN EVANGELION”

reef lagoon
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Some fuckin Chinese book

summer onyx
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that would be the king in yellow

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which isn't chinese afaik

dry marlin
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Yuh it was just King in Yellow in Chinese, which is Lovecraft*

reef lagoon
#

whoops

glossy wing
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i wish we had the chinese lore doc pinned because even though its not 100% my agreed truth its a good introduction

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possibly nothing is real!

acoustic niche
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the King in Yellow is like

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maybe the most important context for Signalis?

violet surge
#

And I feel like trying to fully put together what happens in the game is a losing battle, at a certain point it’s just vibes

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And that’s not me being dismissive, it’s me saying that it seems like that’s all that’s left holding the world together in the game

reef lagoon
dry marlin
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this game has fully stayed in my brain

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the fucking promise man

trim bronze
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The whining about yuri is goofy because it willfully ignores the fact that lesbianism can in fact be a resonant theme for horror, especially within the structure of an authoritarian setting. IRL, gayness is subversive to totalitarianism. Freedom to love is inherently anti-authoritarian. It is intrinsic to understanding Signalis.

glossy wing
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mulholland drive

echo nexus
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Signalis is about being gay in an authoritarian society

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/s but not fully

reef lagoon
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talking to falke

mellow moat
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It’s the line……..

rose mist
summer onyx
patent sparrow
reef lagoon
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Kills their wife (harassment)

Kills their wife (flirting)

violet surge
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Where does Isaac Clarke fall in this continuum?

green zephyr
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this is why you should always make friends with other tortured souls. so you can kill eachother's wives

trim bronze
violet surge
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Ah true

mild moth
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I wish I could play signalis

wanton bear
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Why can’t you?

abstract cape
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Fucking blue eye samurai shit right here!

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I still love my headcanon of elster
Fuck all yall, gimme back my wife

mild moth
wanton bear
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That's valid, I somehow never got used to the enemy screeches and hellishly discordant combat music

reef lagoon
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Thats probably on purpose

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And if it isn't they should say it is

wanton bear
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Oh I'm sure it is

thin crypt
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Isn't there something about infra soundd useage in Signalis. And infra sound being unaudible but very anxiety proviking for humans?

wanton bear
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I don't think so

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(Most speakers can't really do infrasound anyway)

smoky minnow
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Oh god signalis channel

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It's everywhere

mild moth
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Though, a cool touch is that, if you didn't know the Conet Project was an attempt at collecting recordings of WWII and onward number station recordings. The little tune from the Achtung! Messages is from a number station recording.

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Grr autocorrect

autumn shadow
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Hello good citizens!
Im working on a propaganda poster for my mecha-like replika and I'm looking for some feedback on the color and decals of the weapons to make them fit with the in game weapons more, I think that the small autocannon looks fine but i'm not sure about the recoilless rifle

Also not sure how to depict her armorless form, on the left, I'd prefer to keep it in the silhouette/shadow style, but maybe make it look like a hologram or something?

Do you folks think that it's understandable that the silhouette on the left is supposed to be her?

trim bronze
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maybe make it a little brighter to help her stand out vs. the other replikas in the background?