Vintage Story

[left silo]

tried to yoink that lantern but it won't let me

fucker is living underwater

have I entered the fae zone

are those torch burning underwater

well this guy is selling kitchenware which is useless to me right now

[dense saddle]

you found fucking aquaman and he's selling tupperware

[left silo]

economy has been hard

[left silo]

oh my god I want to cry

finally, COAL

[left silo]

finally, 3 stacks of coals

enough for all the mining I need to get going for now

now I have to manage the logistic of moving all the important stuff from my original place to here

this place even has all the medium soils I need to farm faster

also, just 1000 blocks away from the resonance archive

so, that's gonna make for an easy return trip

gosh

this area actually have everything I need

except salt

but that's more an bonus really

[left silo]

well, looks like my luck has turned for a better because after coming out of a cave with stacks of coals, I look at the map and found THIS

holy crap, this is definitely very new

there's a lot of traders that turned this ruin in their base

[hazy pier]

there is a trading camp that has 2-3 traders

[dense saddle]

bro what the fuck is that lmao

[hazy pier]

yeah part of the reason i don't like better ruins is it adds abosutely insane ruins

that feel kinda out of place a lot of the time

[dense saddle]

maybe if you could do a whole thing

like not just the Hagia Sophia chilling out in the middle of nowhere, but rather surrounded by other things

given we have some really fucked up shit added to worldgen due to the story content I think it's okay to have, like, a necropolis

[hazy pier]

theres a few larger uins that were added in vanilla

i made my starter base out of one

[dense saddle]

yeah but not whatever the heck the mighty temple dome over in dragon's game is

[hazy pier]

yeah

[dense saddle]

it is pretty crazy though

[hazy pier]

it looks kidna rough yeah i just sorta fixed it up a little just to make it functional

one annoying part was i couldn't find the spo that made it not a room for a while

so i was cold indoors

[dense saddle]

damn adding shingles to a rooftop kinda does a lot

[hazy pier]

some current world stuff

[dense saddle]

very nice

here's the spread of the castle forge at this point

the trader that's down in the ravine is a problem because I can't build around him due to the land being claimed

I got bored doing the granite quarry and now it makes me genuinely anxious to look at

[left silo]

nice

so the gigantic ruin I found was basically a mall

there's only like 3 traders, the rest of the place is... very dead

[dense saddle]

yeah that needs more content in it

the building is interesting

now they just need to fill it with stuff

[left silo]

oh no there's a lot of environmental story telling

like skeletons of survivors trying to take shelter everywhere

including the spaces between the floor used for storage

admittedly, there's surprisingly few loots

well, I'm like a few hundreds space away from the resonance archive and.... this is gonna be a problem

[dense saddle]

lmao yeah it loves to generate inside of a weird mountain feature

the entrance was completely covered by trees in the old server map

[left silo]

right, so yeah, gonna need an insane amount of ladders for this

anyway, I now know how the place generally looks like

so now... I will be heading 5000 blocks north and plan out how to move stuffs south by 4000 blocks back and forth

this is gonna be a major challenge, but it will be so worth it

I also have two massive ruins worth of stone to extract and build my new house with, so, that's nice

[dense saddle]

almost worth it to progress the quest and get an elk

[left silo]

just, jesus christ, this thing is a bloody massive landmark

I'm not even anywhere near it, I don't know how i missed it the first time but it's probably becasue it's nighttime

[dense saddle]

can you get some closeups of the spires if at all possible

well maybe that's excessive

[left silo]

this was the centre

[dense saddle]

what the hell lol this is a damn town

[left silo]

it was a town

a mall

it has like 3 floors

4 if you count the tiny floors in between the 1st and 2nd floor

[left silo]

annnd I'm home

annnnnnd

as if the low quality dirt isn't bad enough

for some reason, the temperature also got too hot at one point and half of my crops have their growth stunted...

okay, here's my current plan, stripmine every copper and tin vein I can to make as much tin bronze as possible, put all the clays I have into making ingot mold, all fire clay into fire bricks for bloomery,

then, craft a full set of tin bronze too, grab everything I really need, and just get out

this, probably will take 2 trips

oh, and make a ton of nails and strips so I can make a ton of chests after chopping some wood down

so, yeah, that's a plan

gosh, food is gonna be a problem with how bad the dirt is here anyway, I didn't realise how bad poor quality dirt will be

I can survive just fine by hunting though, but that's just more times wasted

[left silo]

huh, this is a strangely hot 'temperate' zone

if it just barely snow in the winter, I won't even be surprise

but the issue then is that a lot of the colder climate crops just cannot survive

I can grow onion and spelt just fine, but not rye or turnip

and flax

[kind dagger]

Flax is the big one

[left silo]

relocation of my home has completed, this new location really got everything I need to raise me up to iron age

now I just need my farm to work so I don't die of starvation

[left silo]

my new house is so much better

just hit iron ore somehow while trying to mine for copper

borax is next door

everything is fine

except I'm constantly near starvation and also wolves are attacking me despite I have passive mode on because these idiots is stepping near the stove

so, yeah

[glad timber]

me: spends hours prospecting, learning how halite pillars spawn, doing research in creative on how to find them
friend im playing with: hey theres a salt pillar just there

its the slim edition, but still lol

[past obsidian]

That's still a lot of salt

[glad timber]

it is yeah!

[warm spade]

salt 😔

I do really like vs but there's a few resource bottlenecks like salt that really put me off it sometimes

[hazy pier]

ive never cared about salt that much

[past obsidian]

Honestly the bigger find in that picture is the bauxite

[summer tulip]

this pillar is even funnier now that i've seen it

[ancient mauve]

i very much appreciate it specifically as a tight-knit group game where everyone plays at the same time and people specialize a bit

I would never play a game like this solo or asynchronously

[tender quest]

Salt pillar, advancing our civilization:

[ancient mauve]

bonus points: less than a kilometer from our base

[glad timber]

the other one isnt that far away either

[ancient mauve]

why be good when we can just be lucky

that's my motto in life and it's never failed me yet

mostly

[warm spade]

I’ve been enjoying it a lot for the story but I’ve kinda given up on getting to some of the endgame stuff

It is just too much work to keep on top of solo

[hazy pier]

i mainly enjoying harvesting and building

it feels good to build something that requires a lot of work

[dense saddle]

if you can tell me some hints about where to find that funny white stuff that goes into making t3 refractory bricks please let me know

[hazy pier]

chromium?

[dense saddle]

can't remember, have to check when I am back at my PC

[dense saddle]

ah there we go, not for bricks

borax

though ilmenite would be wonderful also

[severe jay]

Look in areas with sedimentary rocks

[left silo]

Ah, I was using survival setting for my baseline instead of exploration, i was wondering why meat is expiring this quicky even in cellar

[left silo]

it's like, wow

I now see why people really want salt now

also the halite dome is a new structure in the latest update right?

because I'm fairly certain halite didn't look like this before

at least not as, circular

[dense saddle]

what's it look like

[left silo]

a massive wall?

or at least it was like that

[dense saddle]

sounds exciting

also, because I am very bad at math, I spent a long, long time over several months working out various gearing optimization strategies to get as much out of my windmills as possible

I don't know why I assumed that progressively feeding things together at lower steps would somehow make more torque than if you just put all of the sails on the same shaft but well hey

this setup now runs at 2-3 swings per second on an average day

[dense saddle]

brandy really fucks you up

the price of unspoiling nutrition is blindness

[edgy carbon]

stew liquor that blinds you for a day

[left silo]

lead, obtained, sulfur, obtained, saltpeter obtained, black coal, obtained

gun, approaching

[round oyster]

Say your prayers you bitch ass crow

[warm spade]

found this while travelling for the main quest

[kind dagger]

Damn how did you get an elk

I'm still yet to find how to get one

[warm spade]

story progression

[kind dagger]

Did, did I miss it then

I've been to the archives

[warm spade]

talk to the treasure hunter

[tender peak]

Turns out the real treasure was a moose

friendship was just a red herring

[left silo]

gun obtained

but I'm still waiting for gunpowder to dry

also used a mod where I can make basically a stirling engine because I'm a bit tired of waiting for good wind to work that helvehammer

made a crapton of iron ingots real easily

I guess next step is to find bauxite, but I can stay at this tech level for a while

and well, still has to conquer the resonance archive that's basically right next door at this point

.....and still waiting for my farm to produce its first crops

[left silo]

oh my god, finally got some semblance of real food in so many months

though this is less my farm bearing crops and more I finally made a crossbow and drank a potion of sneakiness to shoot the local wildlife full of holes

as much as guns are powerful, crossbow is more... economical

[left silo]

also, I have heard that you can actually just draw on the wall with some stones alike chalks or coals, but I never managed to figure out how

[round oyster]

there's like a combo of buttons and a menu you can pop up to show several symbols to mark on

consumes a fraction of a chalk/coal every symbol

[cloud rover]

I believe you can do it with Ctrl right click

[left silo]

fuck I got struck by lightning

instant death

[dense saddle]

That reminds me, the lake just south of the main village on the old server map still gets constant lightning

"Storm Lake"

first thing I saw on login was a lightning strike hitting the lake lmao

[left silo]

Ah, i just realised due to how combat overhaul modified the armor system, i just wear my armor like Laios

Plate and chain and gambeson on chest and shoulder

But no helmet, gloves, or leg armor because i still want to shoot, do things fast, and run fast

[dense saddle]

Mead is

the worst

honey is a fucking nightmare to mass-produce. why can't I just put this in the damn fruitpress. why must I hand squeeze it out over a bucket

[ebon plover]

theres a mod for fruit pressing honey

[left silo]

I used Golden Comb mod so I have a much easier time making honey with ceramic hive

[dense saddle]

... wait a minute

is this just worse honey

[hazy pier]

yes

[dense saddle]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

do you have any idea how much honey that was

why would they DO THIS

[hazy pier]

it lasts longer than berries, but honey last inf

[dense saddle]

crunching these numbers honestly alcohol kind of sucks relative to raw grain

the best that undistilled grain alcohol will last is around 4 years

[hazy pier]

i only really use it for if i have a ton of berries

[dense saddle]

compared to 12 with the grain

yeah the brandies seem like the best bet

wine/brandy

[hazy pier]

cause the gap between berry and wine lasting times is massive

[dense saddle]

yes it is

[hazy pier]

berries even under peak condistions is maybe a few days

[dense saddle]

the drunk effect is a little unfortunate though

[hazy pier]

i just drink it when im doing stuff at home that isnt risky

or if im waiting

[dense saddle]

I am often drinking in proximity to operational helve hammers

there is nothing problematic about this

[hazy pier]

gotta get hammered to hammer

[crimson gazelle]

awkohol

[warm spade]

so you can get drunk

I think really the answer is if you're doing the whole distilling thing you could make aqua vitae

[hazy pier]

mead should absoutely be buffed in some way to last longer

[dense saddle]

Honey is maybe a little problematic in that it's so damn good

Since it doesn't spoil already, even if mead lasted longer you get no benefit from reducing down your honey into mead

as said mead really basically exists as a stepping stone to aquavit

[hazy pier]

honey is hard to get in large ammounts generally

[dense saddle]

right so why ferment and distill it at all

that said I've been gathering flowers and I have a decent sized honeybee garden now

though as I complained about -- god is it a pain in the neck to actually get the honey out of the honeycombs lol

at this point I'm just doing distillation to have stuff to fill a cellar

hmmm whiskey might be a winner

you lose nutritional value but at least it doesn't lose food saturation

[crimson gazelle]

there is no point to some of the homesteading stuff by design, they wanted activities

[left silo]

the only good thing about alcohol is getting buzzed with your friends

[dense saddle]

I am king of an empty castle

my hammers helve for only my benefit

[left silo]

maybe the hammer helve is friends all along

anyway, completed the archive, getting through the hell mountain terrains was honestly more difficult than dealing with the archive itself, and discovered some news stuff that I think is added in the new update

anyway, now to travel back to the treasure hunter I got this location from 5000 blocks north, but now in style because I got the freaking glider

just need to, not kill myself using it

[ancient mauve]

very few games have a "this is annoying as hell (but not dangerous) to eat raw" mechanic so honey and butter and plain sugar are usually overpowered if a game is otherwise very simulationist

[left silo]

okay, went back to the treasure hunter, got the map for lazaret and it's...

11000 blocks to the east......

north east

it's also September and WInter is coming

great

huh, my old farm is still alive, but the crop is so sunburn from summer it didn't produce much

buuuuuut, don't mind if I do!

terrible harvest, but still harvest

[left silo]

finally, after months of eating scraps, I finally have something that resemble a luxury meal, onion soup with bread crump garnish and wine

[neat dragon]

Wait, do you need 50 liters of honey to make 50 liters of mead tho?

because that's not how you made mead

.....it is in vintage story though apparently

lmao

It would be more balanced if y'know, you mixed 4:1 or 2:1 water to honey like irl

[summer tulip]

I suspect you'd still end up with a loss in total calories effectively though right

processing doesn't add foodness to food, it just does stuff like increases longevity and storability

and honey never goes bad

so survival wise any processing of just honey is just not worth it?

[ancient mauve]

Yeah

In reality you can't get honey in huge enough amounts for it to be super relevant, mostly

[hazy pier]

and its not like honey drasticly improves some element of the food

[ebon plover]

honey just honeys food

[kind dagger]

Absolutely, most of the calories are in the Sugers which are being converted to alcohol

[ebon plover]

the point of making mead irl is because its tasty and an alcohol

[summer tulip]

yeah if anything VS kinda needs a morale system or something

[ebon plover]

similar to how from a survival perspective the production of Sake is an ABYSMAL trade-off

the main "point" of producing alcohol in vintage story imo is to eventually produce rubbing alcohol

but generally that's not super needed

the thing is that it's also just fun

and the typing is very funny

[hazy pier]

if honey had a large nurition boost that would be a good way to change it

[neat dragon]

For sure, can't beat physics

A morale system would be cool

I think I was more shocked at 50 liters of honey

That's a lot of bees

Whereas 50 liters of mead is (irl) much less of an investment

[summer tulip]

hahah mood

[summer tulip]

so interestingly, you miiight be able to in some situations??? like I was talking to @ancient mauve about it - bioavailability is complicated.

you can't beat physics but sometimes you gotta spend energy to get energy

and if you can skip digestion energy for like, fire energy

then maybe you can cheat a better balance sheet

[neat dragon]

Huh yeah that's true

[ancient mauve]

iish yeah, you can break down complex sugars into simple sugars, you can unbind tangled things from the fibers they're in, you can especially break down proteins

[summer tulip]

but fire stuff is mostly about freeing nutrients, not calories

[ancient mauve]

we're evolved around it, it's (part of) why we need to cook our foods

[neat dragon]

Shuffling numbers around

[summer tulip]

yeah

[ancient mauve]

well, calories are from carbohydrates, fats, proteins

[summer tulip]

cooking: secretly a way to eat fire

[ancient mauve]

they're still complex structures

we tend to think of them as distinct from micronutrients because we eat way, way more of these things

[dense saddle]

fermenting the honey reduces it down to I think like 10l? I think

[ancient mauve]

e.g. our guts shrank after we started controlling and using fire all over the place

but yeah stuff like mead ain't it

[neat dragon]

As cute as they are, kinda glad I'm not a ruminant

[dense saddle]

so you actually need a ton of honey to make a full barrel of mead

[neat dragon]

Or have to eat my food twice

[summer tulip]

@tepid pebble y'know I've always thought about how interesting culture would be for sentient species that eat their own poop

like genuinely - it would probably end up as a metaphor for wisdom and thinking things through

y'know

[ancient mauve]

that is such an ashley thing to say

[summer tulip]

like if you rush you only digest once, if you wanna truly process stuff you gotta do it multiple times

the metaphors are clear

shaadddap

[ancient mauve]

i can genuinely say that I've never thought about this before

[tepid pebble]

Literally this is me when I form a hot take and then ponder it further

[summer tulip]

thinking about poop is an important thing I bring to my communities

[tepid pebble]

You’re so right

[ancient mauve]

it has never occurred to me to contemplate a corpophagic species

[ancient mauve]

i would hope the subject in this metaphor is not literally you

i mean if it is i'm not shaming

you do you

[summer tulip]

right??? but I do think of this stuff. like I've thought about it ever since I ran into that one babylon 5 species that only eats dead things

like sentient scavengers

it does make their food culture very different

[left silo]

will this species say 'let it defecate' instead of 'let it cook'

[summer tulip]

yeah or maybe like

[ancient mauve]

anyway, not a huge expert on this

[summer tulip]

you eat each other's poop

as a etiquette ritual thing

[ancient mauve]

but proteins especially are pretty complex and meat is probably the first type of food we started cooking

[neat dragon]

I very briefly cover this for kids in 6th grade history

[left silo]

anyway, sure would like alcohol in VS to be like, better in a way but not nutritionally

[summer tulip]

agreed

[left silo]

turning fruit juice to wine is good, turning honey to mead and grain to ale suck ass

[warm spade]

when will a game represent how eating a bit of honey is a nice treat but eating a lot of honey makes you crave death

[summer tulip]

LOL

[warm spade]

project zomboid is kinda the only thing that comes close to that

but its morale system is kinda awful

[summer tulip]

we need game mechanics that represent how @glad timber downloads summoning salt videos to listen to to help her fall asleep

😤

the human experience

[left silo]

...the what?

[warm spade]

the human experience

[summer tulip]

vintage story but I have to wake up at 3am every night to pee

[left silo]

oh, a youtuber

[warm spade]

no joke vintage story would be a better game if you needed to do fun things to maintain morale and those things were additional timeskips alongside sleeping

there's so much time you can't do much during the winter

let me read a book, or play omok with myself

[summer tulip]

iirc there IS a game that does all this, and it's the fantasy island games

[ancient mauve]

let me drink wine and get a morale boost i agree

just like irl

[summer tulip]

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not just morale, it tracks like... 5 different mental values?

something like that

[warm spade]

I can't help but think that this looks like gwent

[summer tulip]

and if you walk around barefoot a lot you end up with calloused feet

[warm spade]

playing my hand drill to the siege row

[summer tulip]

and you have to manage your body fat

Carcasses now properly add Discomfort in the area they are in.

[warm spade]

as they well might

[left silo]

....a card based survival game?

[summer tulip]

yeah! this is their second game even

[left silo]

Amazing

[summer tulip]

they did a tropical island one (hugely well received) and this is their second game: a more vintage story kinda forest with spirits and enchanting and magic you have to discover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBR5C3lQ9W8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fctlSKbwDwI

[civic fjord]

The latest Vintage Story update has been out for a while, so I should start playing that since the mods I want are likely updated at this point

[summer tulip]

• Replaced old food spoilage with new Food Bacteria system.
• Drinking river water now gives a bit of bacteria (nothing to worry about if your immune system is ok).

from the latest patch

[left silo]

Now that's extensive

[left silo]

Oh yeah, not sure what modlist you are using, but any mod still getting update has updated to the latest version by now, or at least is still compatible

[civic fjord]

I really want to mess with Butchery

I will be sad to make a new world as I really like where I was last set up, at the fork of two rivers where they merge into one

[left silo]

https://mods.vintagestory.at/cartwrightscaravan this looks very interesting

[neat dragon]

He's a very calming history of speedrunning guy who pulled the incredible flex of getting 40 minutes into a Punch Out video before slipping in that he held like 4 of the world records

[left silo]

chicken coop established

I should raise a goat or two and get some milk too

[edgy carbon]

does vintage story differentiate what kind of milk is used to make cheese?

[left silo]

nope, you also can only find goat anyway

[edgy carbon]

ohhh so you can't milk sheep or other mammals

darn

[amber trench]

you can milk the bighorn sheep

[edgy carbon]

sheep's milk cheese...

[left silo]

hmmmmmm, sausage

god I love expanded food

so much variety

anyway, wow, erm, growing grains with medium fert soil is a pain

mostly because half way in, the soil fertility gets too low and significantly lengthen the process of growing it

the solution to this is either find high fert soil, which is harder than it looks, make compost, which is one of the more annoying fertilizer to get

or just put down more farm, which is what I'm planning after the winter has passed

[edgy carbon]

mmm meat

[left silo]

okay

so I think I just found a modded ruin that i can only describe as Scarlet Devil Mansion from Touhou

because it got blown the hell up

[left silo]

the basement of this mega ruin is a teleporter, and I just happen to have enough temporal gears and metal parts from dealing with something else before, so I DID get teleported closer to Lazaret...

but the teleporter is underwater, which mean I will need to tunnel this place to land if I want a safe route that work both way

[left silo]

oh you gotta be kidding me

found the lazarut, found location to nadiya

and the place might as well be in Nardia because it's even more eastwards

why can't it be southward...

some 22000 east plus 5000 blocks north from my house...

gosh this is gonna last so long

[round oyster]

cold cold meat

[severe jay]

Mmmm 157 year old sausage :3

[left silo]

oh, actually using crock makes me discover so many things

I'm using xskill, so I can cook better in time, one skill basically let you cook more food at once, and another can big you more portion if you are lucky

but of course, just because you can make more, don't mean it might work out as the food might rot before you could finish them

so just store them in crock!

[dense saddle]

I'm glad this just spawns clear out in the middle of nowhere for everyone and it's not just because the server map is older

[left silo]

wish there's an actual ocean though, so I can just use a boat and forget about walking through miles of terrain

I thought the default setting of VS would at least generate something so, ya know, you can actually use the boat

[left silo]

winter is coming in at full force, I can't explore nadiya now, guess I should explore the south a bit

20000 block is some ridiculous distance, you don't even need to walk that long for the climate to change...

[left silo]

unless of course, that also got change in the last update

[dense saddle]

the underwater tunnel from the village to the mountain forge 🧍‍♂️

it was completely unecessary but I said I would build it before the server went down

[hazy pier]

yeah i suggested using the aboveground and just make bridges because it would be a lot less effort

it does look good though

[dense saddle]

I orignally used half panes of glass but they caused this fucked up effect where the water was, like, constantly rushing against the glass and it was hard to see

so it took a long time to go back and replace that

[hazy pier]

did you place them on the outside or incide of the block

[dense saddle]

inside

hence the effect

[hazy pier]

i was just thinking if it was on the outside part of the block it possibly wouldn't have had the effect

[dense saddle]

yeah probably not

but because there's no corner frame in the tunnel exterior the water would come in through the corners if I did that

I wanted the view to be uninterrupted

my next step is to figure out some way to start a leather farm

and I'll be honest I'll probably just creative in the animals

[hazy pier]

leather is something i end up having too much of after a while

[dense saddle]

I have none of it presently and need a lot of it

[hazy pier]

do you know about the desert pits?

in the desert near the town is just a bunch of 2x2 pits that animals love to fall into

[dense saddle]

I do yes

last I checked they had developed a stunning degree of biodiversity

there's also the nightmare boar pit

[civic fjord]

I'm surprised at how effective the pits are

I thought it would just be to chase animals into, but they just walk into it freely

[hazy pier]

i think thats also a spawn zone whic is part of it

[left silo]

I should just actually try out the elk and see how fast it goes, I'm just worried about animals attacking it because I'm play in passive mode, the last time I want is traveling and suddenly found a bear chasing my elk's ass

So much leather is needed to make the saddle, bag, and everything for the elk

[left silo]

okay, got the saddle, went back to the treasure hunter for the elk, annnnd, this thing is fast

might make that 20k block journey much easier...

[left silo]

It also helps that I no longer need to constantly press w and spacebar to move forward with the Elk, save up a lot of mental energy just to avoid incoming terrain

[left silo]

do not attach rope to Elk, it's broke as shit

[left silo]

okay, I have traveled to nadiya on the elk and it still... took 3 days

to be completely honest, that was actually tiring

went creative mode to set up teleporter because I do not want to go through that long of a distance for a while

[dense saddle]

same honestly

[dense saddle]

why the fuck are monsters randomly spawning during the daytime on this new update

[left silo]

Maybe there's a cave?

[dense saddle]

it's broad daylight on top of my castle complex

[left silo]

There must be a dark block somewhere

Or the top of your castle is not lit enough at night and thus it spawned there and couldn't leave when daylight comes

[crimson gazelle]

portal?

portals spawn things during day I believe but they're super obvious and loud

[summer tulip]

https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/1208-rc2-stable-1209-mob-spawn-balancing-item-disappearing-fix-r406/

[hazy pier]

what do yall usally do during deep winter

[ebon plover]

build

[crimson gazelle]

same as ever assuming i have food stores

if i don't then same as ever but i respawn every day

death is like a 2 on the pain scale if not in one life mode or far from spawn or anything

most of the servers i've played on make it less disincentivized by disabling inventory dropping or adding free spawnpoints 😔

[dense saddle]

die because the mountain is too cold even with the best winter gear

[hazy pier]

the enemy spawning is absoutely scuffed

and i am on the current version

[dense saddle]

Thank you

[hazy pier]

even during the day im seeing several with portals turned off

im safe inside my home but anywhere else its like i start trying to do something then i get shot by a bowthorn

its not swamrs but its sprinkled enough tis annoying

[latent gyro]

can you cheat cold climate winter by building a huge firepit in your house and die of CO poisoning instead

[hazy pier]

right now buildinga small room beats winter

theres not a propre room temp system yet

its just if your ina close room your in a comfortable tempature

there is a room size cap though

[hazy pier]

i died because a wolf fell though the rgound and killed me before i could react

[civic fjord]

Ah, Hound of Tindalos

[dense saddle]

the new patch maybe fixed the spawning issue?

I don't know how long it's even been up, I just saw there was one when I checked tonight

[hazy pier]

im on the newest and they have been pretty annoying

i often get attacked during the day by freshly spawned rust creatuers

[left silo]

Saw a meme on how you jist eat bread forever in minecraft really makes me be grateful for the food and farm mechanic in Vintage Story

Your diet ended up become what you can grow in your region, and it's important to get a balanced diet of everything

It makes cooking feel very nice

[ebon plover]

hey that's not fair to Minecraft

Past a certain point you exclusively eat golden plated carrots

[hazy pier]

i use baked potatos myself

Once i have a lava farm they are pretty much free exp

[ebon plover]

there's a lot of infinite sources

I generally prefer golden carrots because of behind the scenes mechanics with them involving satiation

they make you heal faster than other foods

[neat dragon]

To be fair eating bread forever is the neolithic revolution in a nutshell

Stable food source induced malnutrition

[left silo]

ah

[severe jay]

im sure nothing will go wrong with making a nightshade pie :3

[hazy pier]

ive been mainly gathering during winter ive got a ton of wood and other various things

[hazy pier]

most recent update

[dense saddle]

finally

I guess the next thing I need to add to the castle farm is an orchard

[hazy pier]

i forgot is distance power loss a thing

[dense saddle]

not as far as I can tell

I worried that power loss over gears might be a thing but that does not appear to be the case either

[latent gyro]

tapping into the genetic knowledge of the ancients to carve perfectly fitting frictionless gears out of wood

[crimson gazelle]

forgotten tech....

[hazy pier]

my save is wierd

i have a ton and i mean a ton of iron

but all other metals are so rare

oh i did forget i got a bunch of copper

all that iron is rich btw

[civic fjord]

Playin more Vintage Story, experiencing a weird thing where items don't want to be picked up sometimes if I have a single empty slot in my inventory. If I click the empty slot, then they get picked up

Not sure if this is a vanilla bug or some mod is being screwy

[hazy pier]

you need an empty hand or to use the item thats being picked up

wait by pickup do you mean rightclick

or droped on the ground

[civic fjord]

Dropped on ground

Like some grain from harvesting a wild flax

[hazy pier]

wierd

yeah thats not happing to me only mod i have is carryon i thing

[civic fjord]

Ok, I'll have to review my modlist to see what it could be then

I don't think any of them mess with how inventory functions

[civic fjord]

There is a very big lake next to where I am currently holed up and I already have plans to make an island castle in the center. Which means I'll need to gather a lot of muddy gravel...

[hazy pier]

oh i did that

kinda

well it was more like a giant redwood

[civic fjord]

Yeah, the problem is the island doesn't exist right now

I'll be able to share the full list later, but currently my mods are:

• CarryOn
• Cullinary Artillery
• Expanded Foods
• Stone Quarry
• Butchery
• In Dappled Groves
• Toolsmith

[hazy pier]

what

this is at max out zoom

thats how far i jumped

[civic fjord]

Why they got a Macro Editor

[civic fjord]

Translocator?

[hazy pier]

yeah

just a huge jump one of the largest ive seen

[civic fjord]

Hm, I'm hearing thunder and rain but there are no clouds anywhere

[civic fjord]

Apparently that's a vanilla bug after sleeping

[hazy pier]

know what i would like added

a stonepickaxe that can be used on cobblestone and cracked rock

[drowsy kestrel]

I have just bought vintage story

got a cozy hole on a hill, trying to figure out pottery rn

[hazy pier]

would you like any tips

[drowsy kestrel]

yes please

I think I need pottery for better storage, but I'm not too sure on what to focus other than that

[hazy pier]

the survial guide is helpful

also mark any ore you find on the sufuce

you can use a knife to cut roots of reeds and replant them anywhere on soil

[civic fjord]

• While out foraging, look for berry bushes and bring them back to your home for some more consistent food. Berries don't last long in storage, but can stay on the bush indefinitely.
• Same applies to catttails and thule. You can make reed baskets out of cattails as an early storage option.
• You can start farming as soon as you have seeds. I'd suggest a farm adjacent to water and using at least medium fertility soil.
• Native ore nuggets you find walking around indicate an ore deposit beneath them, so mark that for later.

[drowsy kestrel]

baskets are only for your own inventory, or is there a way to use them like chests?

[civic fjord]

• Skeps are pretty cheap, so you can start apiculture early. Honeycomb never spoils. Just make sure you have a straw dummy for the bees to attack when you break the skep (and have at least 2 down at any given time to not lose the bees).
• Make a cellar once you have more food than you can eat. A hole in the dirt with storage vessels that you seal up works fine.

• Meals are powerful. Don't use berries in meals though, as they don't add much and massively reduce the shelf life.

[civic fjord]

There are two kinds of baskets. One for your inventory and one that you place.

Might be called reed chest

For storage:

• Reed chests are a good general option and are extremely cheap.
• Storage vessels are your best option until you unlock saws. After that, they are still the best for storing food in a cellar.
• Tool racks can hang 4 tools on a wall. Good for the tools you don't always need.
• Crocks extend the shelf life of meals in them and can hold 4 servings. If you seal them, their shelf life increases massively.

Not sure what else to cover

If you live near/in a forest, mushrooms are a decent foraging food and last longer than berries in storage. Mark them in your map, as they regenerate over time.

Last time I played, mushrooms and bees seemed extremely rare, but now I see them constantly

[hazy pier]

it varies

i live ina forrest where they are plentyiguly

[forest ice]

Are there any tips for finding seeds?

[hazy pier]

not really

[summer tulip]

one of us one of us

[drowsy kestrel]

I am in dire danger

do these guys go out at dawn?

[severe jay]

Yeah

[civic fjord]

For the most part yeah

I kind of wish they were more of a threat than they are

[hazy pier]

they are when you go underground

[round oyster]

when do they start piling on the chasers and the shooters

[hazy pier]

the melee ones do as much damage as a bear

once you get to t4

[civic fjord]

Do you need to go underground though?

My understanding was that the ore generation disincentivizes cave diving

[dense saddle]

eventually you kinda have to

[hazy pier]

theres some nice goodies

also teleporters are nice

[queen crest]

They can also show up in mines you dig; personally recommend sealing exhausted shafts and using torches or reusable light sources for the areas you’re active in

Assuming it’s a deposit big enough you’ll have to come back

[hazy pier]

if there is any one mod i can recomend for vintagestory

its carryon

it lets you carry chests on your back and hands

you do get a speed pently for anything other than reed

but its nice

[drowsy kestrel]

do you heal over time? or do you need something to regain hp?

[forest ice]

You heal over time as long as you aren't starving

[hazy pier]

you do use more food over time when injured

and you can make poultice to heal

[drowsy kestrel]

vintage storying is going well

it is mid summer, I have the better half of a house and an struggling to make a copper saw

[hazy pier]

you want to make a pickaxe and hammer before you make any other copper cools

[drowsy kestrel]

whats the hammer for?

I made a pickaxe but it broke after making the underground cellar

[hazy pier]

hammer you need to use to break open ore

and to smith

also there is a limit to how big a cellar can be

[hazy pier]

i went about 5k before i realized i set my equator distacne wrong

i forgot to change it to 25k

[hazy pier]

what counts as sealed for celler doors?

i thought trapdoors did

ok you can but they have to be solid

[hazy pier]

im starting to move my stuff into my much more final home

than these ruins i just sorta fixed up enough to act as a home

[forest ice]

ooh

[forest ice]

OK, help me out
There's a hole in the air just outside my front door, and some kind of spiny creature attacking me from range in broad daylight
What can I do about it?

[hazy pier]

nothing

well put light around it

those are whre enemis spawn from

for the ranged enemy

just rush it down

you can make a cheap shield

how blocking works is you have a 30% block chance when its on your offhand

but it goes up to 90 when you crouch

[drowsy kestrel]

what are some good blocks to use with thatch roofs?

[drowsy kestrel]

the roof is done

now to bring everything from the dirt hole to the new house

[drowsy kestrel]

are there some good mods that change the death penalty to something interesting?

[hazy pier]

currently when you die you drop your items and backpack and you lose some nutrition

you can change it to keep inv if you want

[crimson gazelle]

oh for the gross little thing on the bottom? none

there was? a roofing mod that let you change that block

but it's [the vanilla thatch roofing block is] a bad design

nothing fits its color or texture unless they changed it like, This Version

[civic fjord]

I always put off farming in my previous worlds, and I now see how that was a mistake because I am drowning in carrots

Though that's probably due to In Golden Combs' pollination mechanic

[forest ice]

So far I have managed to farm one onion

[hazy pier]

farming is very important

one thing you want to do early on is to take some med fert and put it near some water and start farming

or if you can gte copper easily enough just make a farm

i will say this is something that me liking malefoactor helps with

as they gets more foragables

including seeds from wild crops

[crimson gazelle]

farming is just that good yes

[hazy pier]

flax is very important

[drowsy kestrel]

I've decided to start a semi-hardcore world, struggling rn to find any clay in The Islands

[forest ice]

I have yet to find flax seeds

[drowsy kestrel]

I have too few cattails

I desperately need to make a raft, its too painful to traverse on foot

the whole coast south of the island is just cliffs

[hazy pier]

you can cut catails roots with a knife and make a farm in your home area

[civic fjord]

Was sprucing up my farm for a nice picture and it got dark suddenly

House and forge. Need to try and speedrun glass before winter.

[hazy pier]

oh one thing you can do abotu the water inbetween is put half slabs there

on the upperhalf

makes walking around between them much better

[civic fjord]

I was going to change it out for the Primitive Survival thing

Furrowed Farmland

It provides slightly more moisture to surrounding farmland, can be walked on and have bushes placed on top, but gets blocked occasionally

Is there a better way to store molds than just on the floor or in a chest?

Or once you have an anvil, should those be thrown out except the ingot molds?

[forest ice]

I think you can make a storage rack for them

[civic fjord]

Ah yeah, the vertical rack

[hazy pier]

also its easier to mold than the make stuff by hand

i guess if you just use iron tools yeah getting rid of a lot of the molds would be fine

[drowsy kestrel]

go to the forest, bury them deep

[civic fjord]

Wrong type of mold, unless...

[edgy carbon]

cheese mold

[inner hornet]

Sometiems you don't want to do the little smithing minigame every time so keep molds is good. I would usually do them in an overhead vertical rack

[civic fjord]

My forge is probably too small to properly store all of the molds right now, so I'll have to make it bigger when I make my second base.
Not looking forward to that since I'll need to collect so much stone and muddy gravel to make the island

[graceful prism]

Superbly comfy rooftop sod garden area. Still need to get enough wood to fix up the dirt walls and such (I'm closing in on redwoods so that'll stop being an issue soon)

[civic fjord]

Hobbitcore

[civic fjord]

https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/v12011-purely-performance-r409/

Why no embed

[graceful prism]

sometimes you gotta add 15 spaces after the link

[graceful prism]

oh I thought it was an image, yeah it might not embed then.
Also very cool, RAM reduction

[civic fjord]

Okay, the stone quarry mod might be a bit too powerful.
The rubble storage acts as a very large crate for stone, gravel, and sand and lets you convert between them.

Hm, I spoke too soon

It's just the first thing, but you can hit it with a hammer to convert stone to gravel to sand

[left silo]

yes, it lets you quarry a mountain much faster

but much faster is still only relatively

still very helpful if you want to make a stone castle manually though

[civic fjord]

I thought you could put pebbles in it and pull out full stone blocks

[left silo]

Oh no definitely not

[civic fjord]

I wish if you had crocks on a shelf you could fill your bowls directly from them

[hazy pier]

i wish i had more uses for stones

they did at least make it where you can fill direct from your inv now

without placing the crock pot

What would be a good use for stone i wonder

[civic fjord]

I am at the stage of the game where I sit inside all day so I don't freeze to death.
Animals don't like spawning close to where I live, so I can't use the pit strategy.

[hazy pier]

i usally do some building or prep of stuff i can do inside like clay

or gather matiersl from nearby

setup a little logging house or something

[civic fjord]

I've got a lot of logs I can break down for firewood, maybe start another batch of charcoal.
Problem is my upstairs has open windows, guess I'll need to seal those off so I don't freeze upstairs

It's a bit weird how few animals I have though, my crops haven't even been eaten once

And that used to be a consistent problem for me

[ebon plover]

Animals tend not to spawn near player affected areas

[civic fjord]

Yeah, I might have not had enough stuff down at the time, but I'm not getting that on this world

I will also look for something to plan my house with. Going for a kasbah style

[civic fjord]

I like how I can put a copper ingot on the anvil and just hit it until it becomes useful. Charcoal irrelevant.

[hazy pier]

i feel like some metal you should be able to just heal using normal heat

wait can you?

[left silo]

Not sure, but you can certainly do that with lead

[crimson gazelle]

just off the top of my head most metals aren't metalwork-soft at wood temps

lead is though

copper, maybe? but briefly

[hazy pier]

peat can get to 900

i think 700 is about when iron likes to harden

[civic fjord]

Mods might be doing something but I can cold hammer copper

(None of my mods should do that...)

[hazy pier]

yeah you shouldn't be able to

what are you describing as cold?

[civic fjord]

I pick up the copper ingot off the floor and start hammering it

[hazy pier]

thats strange

def must be a mod

or a bug

[civic fjord]

Hm, locked in my house because there are 12 Bowtorn outside

Like literally

[round oyster]

under fuckin siege

[left silo]

"DO YOU HAVE UNO"

[civic fjord]

For prospecting, is it best to search by multiples of chunks or do arbitrary distances work fine? Noticing ProspectTogether works on chunk increments but I've been prospecting on multiples of 40

[hazy pier]

i just do random distances

[past obsidian]

Something to note about prospecting is that the actual prospecting data is not per chunk, but a strict vertical column of the first block you hit.

So if you're really trying to narrow down on something you'll have to do narrower hits within the chunk itself

Especially because some ores (such as cassiterite) are REALLY small discs and there can be multiples in a chunk

[crimson gazelle]

Yeah also it's measured in ppm

Bear in mind

[civic fjord]

Isn't it parts per thousand?

[civic fjord]

My problem with cassiterite is that I have a nearby surface deposit, but it's trapped under a surface quartz deposit, so I'm looking for another cassiterite vein so I can mine out the quartz

[crimson gazelle]

oh yeah

i forgot how many o there were

[civic fjord]

Tried exploring south to find a warmer home for the winter so I could grow crops more regularly, but ran into a couple problems

• Growing all fruit trees in the same temperature band is just impossible
• The equator is extremely far away
• Travelling during the winter is a very bad idea

[hazy pier]

yeah also i made the mistake of not fixing my eqaurtor setting in my current world

so i also gave up on that idea

[civic fjord]

Hm, seems to be about 50k with default settings

[hazy pier]

yeah

i usally set it to 25k

or was it 50k

[civic fjord]

Thinking I should start building my road before making that trek. I'll just keep living up here for now.

[hazy pier]

one thing you could do is mine stone

you can close off the cave your mining in to stay warm

[civic fjord]

Maybe I should give up on the kasbah and just make a lowland castle, more fitting the temperate climate

I'm currently testing if snow will accumulate on half slabs. I want to make roads of stone paths to more easily prospect for ore

Now I must find a lowland castle that speaks to me

[hazy pier]

i don't think it accumlates on path blocks

but it does on the top of slabs

[left silo]

ah, upcoming update

https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/v1210-pre1-story-chapter-2-redux-r411/

[ebon plover]

WAIT RHAT FALX CHANGE IS HUGE

Way better to make there be a reason to actually fight

[summer tulip]

Feature: Monster autoharvest! The falx now extracts 1 drop per hit from drifters, shivers and bowtorns (drop rate remains unchanged)

oooh

[left silo]

wait so Falx just extract free flax from monsters now?

neat

let me just pluck shit from you

[kind dagger]

Armor not nerfing the healed amount is god sent

That's just so nice

[left silo]

Yeah, that's one main facotr for why metal plat armor felt like crap

[kind dagger]

Yeah

[left silo]

yes, it's very immersive that you have to take off your armor to clean your wound

but also it's pain

[hazy pier]

Know what vintage story needs a handcrank

[hazy pier]

i had to make it the hard way

[dense saddle]

just something where you can like. connect a crafting grid to inputs.

[tender peak]

create mod but for vintage story :v

[hazy pier]

i mailny just want a handcrank cause stuff like pulverisign requires power

it would be nice to get at least something when the wind is low or to speed it up a little

[hazy pier]

how do you get the steel furnace ghost?

[dense saddle]

the WHAT?

oh

you probably already figured it out but I seem to remember you can make it pop up by shift clicking the sarcophagus or by... hm some other combo of buttons, the ingame guide mentioned it

[hazy pier]

yeah i figured it out but it wasnt working cause i had a chest on my back

is this fine as a fuel area

most of my stuff has been moved to my new home but my farm and smithing stuff as well as my windmill stuff hasnt

and i want to get steel tools before i dig any more

[hazy pier]

Do yall use an good axe than swap to a bad axe to finish off a tree to save durablity?

[forest ice]

All I have are flint axes

[hazy pier]

im getting steel soon but i have an iron axe

[past obsidian]

Depending on what durability is left, it'll eat in to the good axe anyway

[hazy pier]

steel sure is taking a while to cook

im just still just chopping trees for more charcoal while i wait

[crimson gazelle]

no point

[hazy pier]

by good axe i mean like an iron or steel axe and by bad i mean like flint or stone

[crimson gazelle]

no point

can't repair tools, and axes will use up to durability or until the tree is down anyway

no enchantments either and axeheads are only one ingot

genuinely takes more work to make flint axes imo

i don't think there's anything like "one log = a fraction of durability that gets rounded up" either

[hazy pier]

The idea is that the flint axe takes all the durbailty damage becaue its the final hit.

[civic fjord]

Axes don't work that way

You can't partially break a block and swap to a different tool to finish, you'll just restart

[hazy pier]

if its the same kind of tool it works

also works iwth pickaxes and prospec picks

[civic fjord]

You're ultimately just going to be spending more time making flint axes than if you just made another steel axe

[hazy pier]

im saving on maknig more steel/iron axes

if i only used the metal axe id be going though half an axe per trip if not more

since im using about 8 flint axes per trip

actully yeah i would be using one iron axe per trip almost

[civic fjord]

A flint axe has 100 durability, a steel axe has 1800

[hazy pier]

i currently have iron not steel yet

[crimson gazelle]

i dunno it's rlly not a resource management game - it's a time management game, so whichever you can do faster in larger quantities

you don't have to stretch out your metals because a huge vein will last forever

esp. solo

[hazy pier]

finally

I only do it for axes because it cuts down the entire tree reguardless of what axe does the final hit

and its mainly so i don't have to keep processing iron over and over

my entire iron supply is this now due to steel

'

is this normal is or something wrong

ok i figured it out i messed a layer of charcoal

[hazy pier]

this is vanilla btw

just mean

[hazy pier]

am i misremembering something about firepits having longer itmes if its empty of items to cook

[crimson gazelle]

yeah i dont remember that ever being a thing

it's been flat seconds for as long as i remember

math would be a lot more fucked up if it had modifiers at some point

[hazy pier]

Yeah i just tried it it didn't work

maybe im thinking of another survial game

[kindred schooner]

What mods would people reccomend for Vintage Story?

It's been a little bit since I played but I want to play it again with mods this time

[hazy pier]

carryon

if there is any one mod i think is so important and so good it should be vanilla

its carryon

it lets you pick up crates,vessels, chests, and anvils in your hands and put some of them on your back

without taking out the items

[kindred schooner]

Noted

[severe jay]

I'm a huge fan of expanded foods, it really makes the cooking a lot more fun

[hazy pier]

yeah expanded foods is also a good one

carryon is just the only thing i feel like is a full recomend to the point i think it should be vanilla.

[kind dagger]

I like the combat overhaul

[summer tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsyy8pziGLI

[hazy pier]

finally wooden paths that don't look aweful

[summer tulip]

https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/v1210-rc1-story-chapter-2-redux-r414/

[warm spade]

||the devastation not freezing you to death is very nice 👍 ||

[hazy pier]

https://youtu.be/ifye5PiZRU8?feature=shared

one of the hermicrafters apprently played VS recently

[tender peak]

Watched a bit of that and found something that I'd find really annoying, water doesn't seem to spread?

so if you knock out a block next to water it just keeps flowing forever

[hazy pier]

it has a range but doesnt spread

so yes you do need to manuall yplace each bit of water in your pounds

ponds

or do the only cheating i did in my world and set an area to water

[tender peak]

I was more thinking canals for the boats

[hazy pier]

yeah you can do that by hand not too badly

as long as its only like one deep

the main issue is it doesnt make sourceblocks under the water either

[tender peak]

Yeah I just wish there was a thing like "if there's like 20 source blocks nearby, let it spread" or something

[hazy pier]

do beehive kilns break like steel ones do?

ah yes the ydo

[hazy pier]

am i correct in thinking that this should not have any negative power values

i really want a windmill replacement for lower down stuff that or some upgrade for windmills.

[dense saddle]

god we need water wheels so bad

[left silo]

yeah, I tried a water wheel mod once but it was

so slow

and doesn't actually have much torque for some reasons

[dense saddle]

I think there is a direct link in current power behavior between torque and speed

like you could easily set up that water wheel mod to have appropriate torque. gear stepping and linkage all behave a little oddly and it always drives me up a damn wall lol

[hazy pier]

i got so exited about finding sulfer

but then realized i still need saltpeter

[summer tulip]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/perfectrandom.bsky.social/post/3lvdt3lnztc22

SULFUR (@perfectrandom.bsky.social)

What was he aiming at?
︀︀#sulfur #indiegame #fpsgames #roguelite

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[summer tulip]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/perfectrandom.bsky.social/post/3lvdt3lnztc22

SULFUR (@perfectrandom.bsky.social)

What was he aiming at?
︀︀#sulfur #indiegame #fpsgames #roguelite

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[hazy pier]

if i can find saltpeter i can make the good backpacks

[hazy pier]

is this not one of the worst portals you have seen

its also at 12 elevatoin

[dense saddle]

depends on what's nearby but I think that is basically every single portal I have ever opened

[hazy pier]

this portal was pretty decent

not too far from the surface

[hazy pier]

upside is there was some copper in that 12 elevation one

which i really needed copper

now i can start making more brass

[crimson gazelle]

tesco greece

[graceful prism]

(ruins mod)
Wow. That's, big.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539110948913545216/1401422336321916958/2025-08-03_00-31-05.png?ex=689037c2&is=688ee642&hm=2221c280586e97bcbbe0bc05a5f0411e411d454e72f480f5dad0479963f50f1a& also Mushroom house is a vibe

[hazy pier]

i think it would be cool if there was more backpack slot items

or some more backpacks that have diffrent bonuses but might have less slots

[graceful prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539110948913545216/1401710475120607242/2025-08-03_19-36-26.png?ex=6891441b&is=688ff29b&hm=b7f95c3707b8fc7d5eb2406994f9deb85272db65fe48349553a1b806a16716b0& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539110948913545216/1401710454610595962/2025-08-03_19-36-44.png?ex=68914416&is=688ff296&hm=46469214e4ba99455ac99faa7f38f5c23e8dd7ea5a345957912231ec8a479d25&

[tender peak]

1.21 sure is having a time with this many release candidates where each time they think it's the last one :v

[ebon plover]

sad trek hut

[kindred schooner]

Hey, a community I'm in wants to start a Vintage Story server and they're curious about the class balancing

Do you guys have any thoughts on it or any mod suggestions if you think it needs to be changed

Our main concern is just that the class system kind of locks content behind little difficulty bumps and we aren't sure if we like that

[hazy pier]

can you clarify

i think each class has its use except maybe clockmaker

are you refering to the things only they can craft?

i also if yall are new i recomend staying mostly vanilla

except for one mod

carryon

its a mod that lets you pick up chests,crates, vessels, and a few other stuff in your hands and move them around without having to destroy them

it does slow you down when you pick up anything except a reed chest so its decently well balanced

[ebon plover]

the only class that you ever really need in a server is tailor, the rest all have very few class specific recipes and mostly just specialise in a particular part of the game

the class unique recipes aside from tailor are generally not super necessary

they're cool, but definitely not needed

and generally classes don't particularly make the game harder since they always have more buffs than downsides

[drowsy kestrel]

You can also make all class recipes available for everyone in the settings

[hazy pier]

tailor is the only really big crafting ones yeah

the other ones are nice but not as amazing

blackguard sword is steel damage metoritic iron durabilty, but only requires an iron bar

the sling is worse than a bow but easier to craft and more common ammo

and the bow the hunter get is comparable to the sling but the 2nd bow is pretty decent

i do think some classes work better at diffrent points

like malefactor is better early on while blackguard is better later

Also while you are restrcited on crafting that doesnt mean you can't craft stuff for other people, i often would just craft a bunch of slings for people.

[kindred schooner]

Alright thank you for the tips!

[hazy pier]

https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/v1210-story-chapter-2-redux-stable-r420/

https://youtu.be/wsyy8pziGLI?feature=shared

[red axle]

oh 1.21 out

[red axle]

that's some spicy water

[tender peak]

is that expanded foods

[red axle]

indeed

[tender peak]

hopefully it'll be updated soon

[red axle]

yep

i updated to 1.21

realised all my mods wouldn't work

and then just reinstalled 1.20.12

[tender peak]

the modlist for our server was set up only using mods that already worked on 1.21 just in case of that

[red axle]

think some of my mods had a release candidate version

but of course expanded foods

what's your server's modlist?

[tender peak]

Alchemy
Bed spawn
Better ruins
Canoe
carry on
chisel tools
combat overhaul
combat overhaul armory
fantasy creatures
The entire set of dino mods
crossbows
firearms
medieval expansion
player corpse
primitive survival
prospect together
rp voice
rivergen
stone quarry
tailoring for all(adds more expensive recipes of the tailor stuff)
terra prety
wildfarming revival
wooden fortifactions
xskills

[wheat nacelle]

played my first session last night, mostly blind outside of 'this is a minecraft but more': what the fuck

[kind dagger]

No Exoskeleton

[hazy pier]

whatcha think, any questions?

[wheat nacelle]

I wasn't expecting to spend an hour panning sand for my first pickaxe but it's all. Oddly compelling. Was not expecting the rib monsters.
I have a mudbrick house and some copper tools now so I'm getting into the swing of things.

[hazy pier]

mark where ever you find suface ore

marking stuff on your map is very important

[red axle]

"yeah i'll go a bit south and find some more clay to make tier 3 refractory bricks with"

(still hasn't built a house)

[hazy pier]

i think i only have t1 bricks

i could make t2 i think

[red axle]

i've always skipped tier 1 bricks

[hazy pier]

I did not find olvitine for a very long time

not until late into year 2

[red axle]

yeah i've just been lucky with regards to that

[hazy pier]

i also really wanted steel cause i had plenty of iron

and i iwas digging this out

[red axle]

ok wow i really need to build something

[hazy pier]

i kinda reached my burn out poitn on this build but its also mostly done

i think i might return to it one day to fix it up maybe

its mainly the forage area that looks kinda iffy

forge

[red axle]

behold

[hazy pier]

i did also fix up some ruins

[hazy pier]

this was my last projectil

im not sure what my next build is gonna be

something with less mining though

[wheat nacelle]

am i right in thinking jumping down random caves to prospect isnt particularly better than prospecting at the surface/cliffs?

[red axle]

yeah there's no difference

The game checks the coordinates of the first of the 3 blocks sampled, and compares the coordinates with the heatmap mentioned earlier. As the heatmap is 2-dimensional, the elevation (Y level) of the sample doesn't matter at all; the result would be the same if the first block sampled is at the same X and Z coordinates, whether at sea level or deep underground.

[wheat nacelle]

spoilers for temporal storm stuff, i guess. ||what the 𝓕𝓤𝓒𝓚 is that||

[red axle]

||oh that's Dave||

[wheat nacelle]

i do not like ||Dave||. i do not want to see that.

[ebon plover]

||thats Dave||

[tidal drum]

Don't worry about it

[hazy pier]

oh also you can change your map to be color if you want, i usally do because i don't like the non detailed map

even more so when im trying to find specific biomes and rock types

[wheat nacelle]

is that an in-game setting or a mod?

ah, found it under 'survival challengesl

[wheat nacelle]

yesterday i hit my first ore vein, and was so relieved that i didnt notice my temporal stability ticking down. ran up to the surface and got to witness the horrors unrestricted for a little bit

[wheat nacelle]

low-key terrifying. (thalassophobia warning maybe)

[edgy carbon]

spoopy

[red axle]

oh yeah if you go deep enough it also cuts out all the light

i keep on deluding myself that i'll finally move to a new location and build a house

after i finish the next batch of steel

good news:

i am now out of iron ingots to make into steel

[red axle]

found a spot, now all i have to do is actually build a proper house

thinking of doing something like redwood and slate/clinker bricks

or maybe cream bricks

[hazy pier]

https://youtu.be/NUqW2Gec0Lo?feature=shared

[kind dagger]

I mean it cannot be that va- SWEET MOTHER OF CHRIST

[wheat nacelle]

didn't realise there was a specific 'path' block so now im ripping up my long-ass cobblestone road

[red axle]

i came looking for copper and i found gold

[wheat nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KquFZYi6L0

[red axle]

i'd been to this particular hematite vein before too

wish i'd found the halite deposit before i spent 44 gears buying it from a survival goods trader

[crimson gazelle]

im pretty sure thats iron. you came looking for iron

[red axle]

the phrasing has a bit less punch to it

"i came looking for iron and i found salt"

sounds like i mixed up the cutlery drawer and the spice drawer

yknow

[tender peak]

Your cryptid tool drawers a mess

[red axle]

don't you dare move my cow tools

[astral swift]

tfw a bear gets into the house

[round oyster]

and thats why you build it with a ladder in mind

[red axle]

the 7 block tall ladder and floating box of x1067 chert stones are a necessary defence measure

[dense saddle]

the threat of bear is why I live in a castle behind 4 gates and up seven flights of stairs

[red axle]

whoops.

[graceful prism]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-hungry-reaching-cant-reach-ferret-gif-16282735

[round oyster]

start punching rock

[hazy pier]

cant in vs

[astral swift]

couldn't you place dirt behind it to push it out towards you?

[hazy pier]

that would work

[tender peak]

Gonna wake up to angry discord pings in a day or two I think :v

[ebon plover]

https://tenor.com/view/vintage-story-hop-on-hop-hop-on-vintage-story-hop-on-vs-gif-10441464929269631776

[round oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/vintage-story-jank-gears-gif-11302739233584056034

[queen crest]

Is that chisel work for that loft platform?

[tender peak]

yeah

kapok beams, oak planks

[last forge]

[umbral island]

When you harvest biannually