Vintage Story

[ebon plover]

no

My Vs didn't want to connect to server so I couldn't

How would people feel about a mixed aboveground/underground settlement this time

[severe jay]

ooh hobbitton style?

[ebon plover]

Yeah

[severe jay]

oh that'd be adorable

[ebon plover]

But more SEA

SEA Hobbiton basically

[severe jay]

if we could find a nice hilly area i'd be so down

[past obsidian]

I'm manually editing the DB

[ebon plover]

Shouldn't be too hard, the southern biomes are really nice

[unkempt horizon]

I'd love to make myself a funky little dungeon

[eager gazelle]

I will dig a tunnel to the other side of the world.
(not literally)

[severe jay]

we're gonna have to travel quite a bit if we wanna stick with this world

seemed like a temperate start so we're gonna have to go hella far south

[unkempt horizon]

Spawn is a bit bunk for building

[hazy pier]

its been lowered to 5k

[past obsidian]

OK

Server is up

[ebon plover]

yeah equatorial distance is much lower this server thankfully lol

[past obsidian]

@ebon plover

[unkempt horizon]

I gotta remember how to start the game again...

[ebon plover]

Yeah that looks correct thank you!

I'm offline so can't collect rn

[past obsidian]

Who can I leave the stuff with?

[ebon plover]

Derpg

[hazy pier]

derp robally

[ebon plover]

And a reed chest

[past obsidian]

Oh I'm going to do a thing real quick

[ebon plover]

also the other advantage of building hobbit style will be it saves a huge amount of farming space lol

[eager gazelle]

oh my god

[unkempt horizon]

Hahah

[ebon plover]

cnidaria sets out south to the tropics c. 0 CF

[unkempt horizon]

gang gang

[kindred schooner]

To the south

[severe jay]

oh okay cool u get to see the stream im watching too

but yeah

[ebon plover]

yeah thatll be annoying to farm in

[hazy pier]

this is yeah i think the same area

[ebon plover]

we will probably want to get the other trees eventually btw

kapok/bamboo/acacia/ebony

[past obsidian]

And purpleheart

[past obsidian]

That took longer than I would of liked

[hazy pier]

im up for geting on the server if anyone else wants to

[ebon plover]

ill get on in 1

15

[unkempt horizon]

way too late for my ass to game

[severe jay]

i'll hop on when you two do too

[hazy pier]

im already in now

[severe jay]

mhm, i'll be on in a few

[hazy pier]

https://fxtwitter.com/VoidBurger/status/1728310533147791602 vintage story earlygame

i found an artizan trader he will buy peat brick

[ebon plover]

im on

[severe jay]

did the server explode?

[hazy pier]

just you

yeah your crashing over an dover

[severe jay]

yeah i know that

[ebon plover]

hf with the continued building

im honestly amazed by the amount of progress we've had lol

less than 10 days and we already have most good crops and trees

all we need to look for now is soy and rice and we'll literally be set for life 😌

errr and metal we have no metal

[hazy pier]

i noticed this when looking on the vs discord

[severe jay]

Yeah that's exactly the error I got

Seems its to do with fruit trees

[stark trail]

I like to make jams.....

[unkempt horizon]

I like to make jams

[stark trail]

love how they ask "you?" and then Don't wait for a response.

[hazy pier]

and the fix for the issue

[red axle]

almost got 40 copper bits on the server, big things coming

no high fertility soil though, I've lost my touch 😔

[hazy pier]

its probally gonna be harder to find then terra pretta was

just because high fert is harder tosee

most of us in are in the south if you need to find us

[red axle]

I found the base by the teleporter

[past obsidian]

Nice

[hazy pier]

yeah i was planning on doing some panning later

but rn i gotta cook

[ebon plover]

Breaking bad

[red axle]

Jonas, we need to cook

[past obsidian]

I'm more awake now

But its good to know the teleporters work for non-admins

[red axle]

We're cooking

[ebon plover]

in the mine again 😌

ok we actually are just set then right

Cause now have copper and we know the location of iron

were literally so prosperous now we just need houses and real farms

[red axle]

mining time

[hazy pier]

also we have bees

[red axle]

found high cassiterite, i'm going to eep now

[red axle]

mine 6 billion copper

[hazy pier]

i can hop back on once i finish cooking

[ebon plover]

its somewhat scary how prosperous we are rn

also, im think we can do some nice tunnels between houses for cosy factor

[past obsidian]

Sorry I haven't been on to play proper.

[hazy pier]

i found a bug i think

not something creator can fix but i think paths don't give their speed boost

[hazy pier]

nvm its that in creative they dont

[past obsidian]

The server just had a weird hiccup

[hazy pier]

I FIGURED OUT HOW TO MINE LOGS WITHOUT CHOPPING THE WHOLE THING

Nvm creator has told me a saw cna work

[tidal drum]

Hi. (am one of the stream watchers)

[red axle]

cheeky mining session before work

[hazy pier]

so i might need to harvest more redwood trees

because the logs i need are the more rarer full logs instead of quarter

[red axle]

time to mass produce charcoal

[hazy pier]

i actully got an idea for a house i might actully make in town as well using the quarter logs

[hazy pier]

I do like my new house idea more then the tree house

[severe jay]

the minor food crisis has been averted, the onions are donions, and we foraged a buncha berries so we should be gucci for now

also found soybeans

[ebon plover]

that's huge

Soyjoy

[severe jay]

Also 1.19.1 just dropped
It fixes the crash we were getting

[ebon plover]

olive and rice timeee

[past obsidian]

Oh excellent

I'm going to update right now

And we're updated

Also this fixes people being invisible.

[hazy pier]

yay

[hazy pier]

im geting on in a bit

[ebon plover]

we really need someone to trap the pigs

[ebon plover]

the hovel

to a home (not really but getting there)

[hazy pier]

ive captured a single animal

corrcet 2 aniamls

one rooster one hen

[ebon plover]

the new hobbit house should be a good place to do everything except forging btw

im going to place the kitchen on a lower level though

for the cellar bonus

[past obsidian]

What do you mean molten metal is bad for wood

[ebon plover]

Akkadian elites don't want you to know this one simple trick to home forging

[latent gyro]

want safer forging? cover yourself in oil

[tidal drum]

The tasty kind or the kind you get from the ground?

[hazy pier]

vs does have oil from fat

[visual plank]

you joke but the Leidenfrost effect says hi

[hazy pier]

but you do have tongs in vs

if you dont use togs you take damge if you try to pick up hot metal

you can even drop hot metal in water to cool it

[ebon plover]

we only have to oil our machines and skin

[eager gazelle]

what if I oil the air

[latent gyro]

I'm not joking

it's a very amusing historical technique

[hazy pier]

i have come up with an idea

a big redwood log where some of it is above ground but most is underground

[severe jay]

chicken pen is ready if anyone wants to move em

[hazy pier]

chickens moved

we actully have a lot of stuff we can make tin bronze with

we have about 44 nuggets

its only 2 tin per bar

[hazy pier]

I found a very large ammount of black coal

i didnt mine it all just a stack

[past obsidian]

Only a stack?

[hazy pier]

yeah for now

thers still a ton in the mine

the camp has very little space rn

[past obsidian]

Also, I've been keeping an eye on mods. It seems like the changes to the reed chests is causing the problems with Carry On. Additionally ACA and Expanded Foods are nearly ready to get updated.

[past obsidian]

Carry On just got updated so I'm testing it now

https://tenor.com/view/good-news-gif-20210278

The server now has Carry On again.

STill waiting on updates to ACA and Expanded Foods though

[hazy pier]

yep it works

[past obsidian]

There's probably going to be a future update to Carry On as there might be a visual issue with the traps

[hazy pier]

theres already one before you put carry on in

i noticed when i had an animal in

the trap went grey

a textureless grey

[past obsidian]

AH

So that's probably not related to carry on then

[hazy pier]

also note

reed chests were nerfed

they now have a 15% walk speed penlty when carriedon back 25 when in hand

[hazy pier]

i was looking at this mod
out of just curiousisty and one of the pictures just threw me off guard

https://mods.vintagestory.at/feverstonewilds

guess which one it was

[severe jay]

The golems from that are really cool, and renewable ore
But with only vanilla weapons they'll be a pain in the ass to fight

[hazy pier]

oh im not suggesting we add it in anyone i just was looking at stuff

but yeah it was the faun? that threw me off guard

[severe jay]

Yeah tbh I never saw them when I used the mod

[hazy pier]

also i found out that if you play the no human mode you have no map

[severe jay]

Huh weird

[hazy pier]

yeah its on purpose

[severe jay]

I can't imagine not having one tbh, so much relies on marking stuff to come back to later and that kinda stuff

[hazy pier]

Yeah I think maybe instead they should give you a map but its blank

you have to draw it

i think you also dont have clothes iether

nvm im wrong

also idk if you notcied or not carryon is back

[severe jay]

🎉

[hazy pier]

i wish vanilla at least had carry on in hands

evne just in hands is useful for stuff like barrels

or chests

also i made some bronze picks and bars

[hazy pier]

theres just

this on the ground

[severe jay]

weird

[red axle]

reed baskets on your back now slow you down

[hazy pier]

yeah

all take off 25% when held 15 whe non back

even chests

i kinda perferd the old system where it was reed>chest>storage in terms of how hard it was to carry

it might not be intended

[red axle]

yeah

[hazy pier]

because the code says -15%

[red axle]

i see you wear the reed chest weirdly too

[hazy pier]

yeah

oh well its at least not crashing

and works

[red axle]

went to go mine more tin

found bismuth and zinc

[hazy pier]

i like bismuth for lantuerns

[red axle]

does bismuth spawn in very small deposits or something

i cannot find this vein

i just get small readings and then it disappears

nvm found it

[left silo]

for something that is supposed to be easy to find in real world, tin sure is fucking hard to find

[past obsidian]

What sucks most about tin in VS is that seeing it in rocks is EXTREMELY hard

[red axle]

Where's the anvil mold on the server?

found it

[ebon plover]

It's a smaller vein, yeah, but should still be noticeably large

Us upgrading to bronze is really good, I need to really work on finishing up the main building so we can start on a forge and warehouse

[hazy pier]

I know how large i want my house to be i just need a spot to put it

9 tall(only 3 of which will be above ground),9 wide, and 11 long

[red axle]

I got us 3 stacks of iron lmao

[ebon plover]

i wish expanded foods had fish farm

I want to cook with salmon and tuna in VS

[severe jay]

Primitive Survival adds a bunch of fish and fishing mechanics

[ebon plover]

yeah but i dont like the rest of primitive survivals additions

[past obsidian]

I wake up and there's already two more updates to carry on

[past obsidian]

Question for the people that have been ont he server: What's being built right now?

[ebon plover]

working on the hobbit house, building the main room so adding in apace for a table, future displays, and just generally more spacious

second floor will have kitchen/rooms

third floor will have cellar

[hazy pier]

i have the supplies to build my house i just need a place to build it

[red axle]

I got us into the iron age

[ebon plover]

server seems crashed

nvm lol

[hazy pier]

ill get on in a bit ima make some food to see if it makes me feel better

[past obsidian]

I'll be on in a moment too

[ebon plover]

hobbit hole is coming along

stairwell to the next storey of it is also made

but i want to add more in these first two rooms

[severe jay]

Once I'm back on I'll get a bee pasture and hog pen set up, then probably move the berry bushes into the farm and I think it'll be functionally done at that point

[hazy pier]

there is some captured hogs by accident

someone made some random pit

and it caught some

[past obsidian]

@ebon plover I just realised, we're within arms length of steel.

[past obsidian]

@ebon plover I started working on a forge area.

But I have to hop off to eat something

[hazy pier]

this is probally where ima build my house later

[ebon plover]

sounds great

[severe jay]

aight bees are all set up and a simple hog pen exists too

oh and the scythe, plant seeds, and tree seeds are now at the farm

[ebon plover]

we need a really serious rebuild of like everything in the main home at this point lol

we're so rich and also horribly organised

im gonna work on the hobbit hole but excavations will be a lot of work so help would be appreciated cause im now starting on the kitchen, living, and cellar spaces

[past obsidian]

I'm going to be getting back on in a moment to work on the forge area

[past obsidian]

The floor in the forge will need to be replaceed eventually, but its all closed up now

Temporal Storm time

@ebon plover Temporal Storm is over

[ebon plover]

yay

[past obsidian]

That's a lot better of spoilage timers

Also all of the clay that I harvested I put in a crate

[ebon plover]

this is why ive been trying to find antlers

they look good

[hazy pier]

how do you even get them?

[ebon plover]

goats and deer shed them

[waxen karma]

Well
Looks like I'll have to get into this game myself
Though, I was told there's a server?
Is this one that's up 24/7 or am I gonna have to log on at specific times?
We are simply curious

[hazy pier]

24/7

there is a seasons thing so time does move when nobody is on, but we are in a warmer region so winter doesnt effect us as much

[waxen karma]

Oh lovely

[hazy pier]

no wait sorry

time does not move if nobody is on

[waxen karma]

Ah- that would make more sense lol

I would hope you wouldn't mind having another one to join in the adventure?

[hazy pier]

yeah people are pretty willing to help

the game has a good ingame guide syste,m

im actully about to hop on in a bit

after i eat some food

[ebon plover]

absolutely not

VS is all about being a town

we might need some more food

but otherwise theres no issue

im gonna log on in a bit to work more on the hobbit hole, btw

[hazy pier]

do we need a greenhouse for winter?

[ebon plover]

gonna start on a real kitchen

nah

winter here should never go below freezing

i know the temp band we're in

we can literally farm all year

just not the tropical crops

we farm northern crops in winter, southern crops in summer

[past obsidian]

There is also a teleporter at spawn to get to the base

[waxen karma]

Oh, convenient

[waxen karma]

We've gathered this, having watched a 14 hour stream before of two 10+ people towns on the same server

we'd like to be able to fulfill a role in an ecosystem rather than aimlessly wander on our own anyways

So

Town play is our preference

[hazy pier]

yeah diffrent people because of the classes can also have perfered jobs

like blackguards are the best miners

[waxen karma]

Out of curiosity, is there any job that isn't covered currently?

[hazy pier]

hunte'rs are good at hunting and ranged combat with an early ranged option
Malefactor is good at foraging and exploring ruins and has acess to a cheap early ranged option(weaker then the crude bow the hunter has but easier to make and upkeep ammo)

Clockmaker- honestly i don't know what this one does really thats useful.

Balckguard is good at melee and mining but get hungry faster.

tailor can craft clothes but has a few negatives to gathing various things

id say just pick commoner probally if its your firsttime

it has no postives or negatives

[waxen karma]

Fair enough

Where can we find the server info, by the way?

[hazy pier]

its pinned

you can save the server on your list too

also the server will send you any mods you need when you get on

ok just finished eating

[waxen karma]

Ah lovely

We.. are actually at work, so we'll be getting on later

[hazy pier]

ok

[past obsidian]

Im testing an alchemy mod as well off server

[ebon plover]

id say hunter would be the most useful

[ebon plover]

we're living in a fever dream

it's late november, im harvesting crops that are stunted by HEAT

[past obsidian]

What

[ebon plover]

it's insane

[hazy pier]

this or this

for the ends of the loghouse

[waxen karma]

Ooh, isn't that the one that can craft bows?

Oop

Sorry for ping

[ebon plover]

they also have benefits to butchering and damage with bows, which makes thm good for taking care of livestock

[hazy pier]

@past obsidian i think the snow broke the teleporter

[past obsidian]

Oh at the spawn side?

[hazy pier]

yeah

[past obsidian]

One moment

[ebon plover]

decoration

[hazy pier]

found 12% copper here

maybe someone better at mining can find it

the bottom yellow is it

[civic fjord]

Server died?

[hazy pier]

yeah i got discoonected too but was able to get back on but im staying off for now cause my friend is on

[civic fjord]

I'll drop too, but I'll be back on later

[past obsidian]

Done with work

This mod makes me want to be an alchemist D:

[hazy pier]

what if i said there is still more copper down there

[civic fjord]

Is there anything we'd need from the south? Wanted to go looking for ebony trees

[ebon plover]

ebony, bamboo, cassava, purple heart

[hazy pier]

the storm is over

[ebon plover]

ill be right back then

im quickly doing a yore climb

[hazy pier]

the green dot is where ive been mining

i think i cleared out that vein but i bet there still a ton more down there

they were a 25% copper prospect

[past obsidian]

One of the alchemical potions in this mod I was testing boosts mining yields by 45%

[past obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[hazy pier]

its still a large prospect someone could probally find more

if we had a helve hammer we could probally turn them into plates for lantuerns and nails

[past obsidian]

Yea I'd like to set up a helve hammer in the forge proper.

[warm spade]

whoever is on the server for some reason my text chat isn't working

[hazy pier]

@civic fjord this is a path to aneboy tree you need bronze axes or better to harvest them

ebony trees

[civic fjord]

Ah, I'll need an axe then

[past obsidian]

There's a stock of 32 iron ingots to be used for tools now.

[civic fjord]

I now have a lot of ebony and purpleheart

[hazy pier]

did you get any seeds

[civic fjord]

Ye, 3

I'll have to go back for purpleheart seeds

[past obsidian]

Ok we're back up.

[waxen karma]

we have acquired game, give us a few days to figure things out in SP and then we think we'll be joining the server

[ebon plover]

i hate temporal storms

[hazy pier]

ping someone when you do so we ca nget you into town

[waxen karma]

Will do!

[ebon plover]

current collection

long term i plan to make a great museum complex in the hobbit hole and fill it with horns, butterflies, shields, books, all the ornate things

if you would like to contribute, the best contribution is building a strong and stable and happy society 😌

actually the best contribution is to raise pigs we will need so much leather

[civic fjord]

Yeah, I'll be working on pigs once I finish my house

Until then I'll be stabbing gazelle in the pits

[hazy pier]

hows the alchemy mod its something ive thought about trying on my own

[past obsidian]

I was experementing with it on a private save and tis cool? But we already have a lot on our plate to deal with with the home first befure I bring that in

[hazy pier]

i was asking for personal reasons not server

[civic fjord]

What does the alchemy do

[hazy pier]

https://mods.vintagestory.at/alloycalculator this is a client side mod i ues

[past obsidian]

You can brew potions to provide buffs

[inner hornet]

I think I fucked my game up by installing Place Every Item. It won't turn off even when I disable or uninstall it. And the config file doesn't seem to actually work.

I can no longer make piles for a lot of things that I have morePiles for

[inner hornet]

I figured it out. Bones and sticks are added to vanilla placeable on ground and broken the piles

[civic fjord]

We now have a boar and sow in the pig pen with some mash

[civic fjord]

So the pigs can eat the berry mash, but with how short the lifespan of it is, not sure if it would be good for a long time solution. I gave them some of the grain instead before I left, enough for 2 litters. Also a lot of the mash is already spoiling

[ebon plover]

yeah thts normal with mash

theyll live off grain, its very easy to get and good for them

[civic fjord]

In the case I guess the mash is just good for making compost

[ebon plover]

yea

[red axle]

oh yeah we should be able to make some terra preta now

if the compost is done

[past obsidian]

Carry On just had an update and reed chests won't slow you down anymore

[red axle]

nice

[civic fjord]

New backpack

[ebon plover]

new fields added

[civic fjord]

Temporal Storm right now

[hazy pier]

where did all the scythes go?

nvm found them

[hazy pier]

https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/v1192-dejank-redux-stablerer-r376/

[past obsidian]

Welp

Server is updated to 1.19.2 now.

[ebon plover]

hi can you all be alcoholics and drink the wine in the basement we need to drink like 100+ litres in two months or it'll rot

[hazy pier]

i dont like drinking it because of the effect

[ebon plover]

we need to

[past obsidian]

Could distill it down to aqua vitae for bandages

[ebon plover]

no distiller yet

[past obsidian]

I can hop on and make all of the stuff for it, I know we have the copper and lead for it

[hazy pier]

i think the soaked bandages only last for an hour

[astral swift]

i thought wine aged and got better over time instead of rotting

isn't that like, wine's whole gimmick

[ebon plover]

only with expanded foods

regular wine sadly rots in VS

with expanded foods it becomes epic and heals you and also blasts your brain cells away

[past obsidian]

@hazy pier Server is back up

[red axle]

🫡

[astral swift]

so

how do you find clay

[hazy pier]

it looks diffrent on the side

alterntive look for a light green patch on the map

whats with everything updating so much

also sometimes it looks diffrent from top

white spots

see how its a bit lighter there

thats clay

[astral swift]

gotcha

[hazy pier]

we have a server up rn btw

if i you join it tell someone and they can bring you to town

[civic fjord]

I wonder if hoppers work on troughs and if I should set some up for the pigs

[hazy pier]

i have no idea

hoppers and stuff are a lot more expensive then in mc

so ive never messed with them

[inner hornet]

so irl wine only ages and gets better while in barrels. once it goes in a bottle it stops getting better and given enough time it will turn to vinegar but it takes decades to spoil in bottles

[ebon plover]

no

[ebon plover]

for expanded foods, allowing wine to rot in open containers causes it to become vinegar, if you store it in closed containers it ages

its pretty cool

[civic fjord]

I will take that as a no to both

[inner hornet]

that's really neat. I really want to get expanded foods but I'm not sure my computer can handle it (I only have 8 gigs of ram 😔)

[ebon plover]

it dont work

vintage story is optimised like a game designed for mods so it should run perfectly fine

the base game is actually just a mod anyway

and due to current coding silliness, installing at least one additional mod increases the game's stability

[inner hornet]

I know it's just my computer can't handle over a certain amount of modding

[civic fjord]

Mods in Vintage Story are nothing like MC

[inner hornet]

I have a small decent amount of mods but I was playing with a friend on her decently modded server and game kept crashing from not having enough memory

[civic fjord]

Also Expanded foods is just...more food

[inner hornet]

Yeah I straight up can't play modded minecraft

[civic fjord]

Actually did it update yet

[ebon plover]

vintage story is far better optimised than minecraft

[summer tulip]

I wanna note that if your reference here is modded minecraft, minecraft is maybe the worst game I've seen to mod in the history of my life

modded minecraft is insanely terribly optimized and jury rigged together

[civic fjord]

Bethesda mods

[ebon plover]

do not ever use Minecraft as your reference point for vintage story

[summer tulip]

I've gotten better experiences running modded stalker and bethesda games

[civic fjord]

Damn

[summer tulip]

no even skyrim modding is better than minecraft modding

[ebon plover]

Cause VS runs ten times as stably with ten times as less consumption of resources

[summer tulip]

minecraft modding is so bad that most people

• give up
• use external AWS server services to run the modded minecraft for them

[inner hornet]

Yeah I know, I just have first hand experience of not having enough ram for mod setup of VS

[summer tulip]

like you just pay someone to run a supercomputer to run your minecraft + portal mod

[summer tulip]

ah gotcha 👍

[civic fjord]

How much RAM do you have

[hazy pier]

vs modding is still in its infantcy so theres not a lot of crazy mods yet

[civic fjord]

Also I will say, sometimes mods in Minecraft are real hard to run because you're using 32bit Java which can't do more than a Gig of RAM

Also please update your Java, in general

[inner hornet]

8 gigs and half of it is usually stolen by windows

[civic fjord]

Damn that sucks

Oh, @ebon plover you mentioned meat hooks before yeah? This mod got updated, I might mess with it in a creative world to see what it's about https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/7966

[ebon plover]

meat hooks are from expanded foods too

used for aging and sosig

[civic fjord]

sosig

I'm just looking through up to date mods rn

[crimson mountain]

That is a very creepy smile

[ebon plover]

the mod looks cool tbh

i wonder how compatible with expanded it is

[civic fjord]

Currently it seems like it has a bit, but it is mainly "we don't step on each other's toes" kind of compat

[past obsidian]

When I get a moment I'll update things

[hazy pier]

its a minor update

[past obsidian]

Update is done

[astral swift]

i am checking every bright-colored spot on the map i can find, but it's all just gravel or different flavors of dirt. I'm in an area with grass and water, this should be where clay spawns, right?

yo finally found some

the map just decided it should not be distinct for me

[ebon plover]

oh youre playing on the sepia map thats why

[hazy pier]

also you need both red and blue clay

red clay is requried for oven, and fireclay bricks

[ebon plover]

fire clay is more resistant, yeah

[hazy pier]

also use your markets

markers

mark resouces so yuou dont need to hunt them down again

[astral swift]

i can't find a way to change the map palette?

[hazy pier]

let me see if i can find a comand

[hazy pier]

this command works

[astral swift]

welp

having a fireplace inside a wooden house had no issue

so i figured structures didn't spread fires and didn't worry about it

[ebon plover]

oh no

[astral swift]

turns out that having a pottery kiln pit indoors is uh

not a great idea

it looks like my reed chests with all my stuff are not burning

so that is good

[hazy pier]

yeah charcoalpit,klin, and setting things on fire spread

also kilns can hurt animals and drifters

[ebon plover]

doing butchery testing now

will give a review

[hazy pier]

ive heard theres a crash involving bears

[ebon plover]

im testing with bears

its picking them up

well one thing ill say they certainly textured this

will spoil things cause winged is here

what a fucking texturre (bear butcheri)

mm yeah its definitely a bit buggy rn

[hazy pier]

homo sapens does not have cardinal direction

[unkempt horizon]

what?

[hazy pier]

north south east west

no cordonates no map

[unkempt horizon]

right okay

just. What a typo

[hazy pier]

its a temp storm rn

derp you havent seen the town yet have you

[unkempt horizon]

I haven't!

[hazy pier]

storm is over

[astral swift]

do i really need 60 copper before i make any tools, like the guide says?

because that's a lot of very monotonous panning

i've found some deposits of ore, so i'll be able to get a lot of copper once i have tools able to break them

[hazy pier]

have you been marking the surface stuff?

surace copper you find

you need 20 per bar

you should only need 40 to mine up surface copper

20 for a pickaxe 20 for a hammer

to breeak open the copper ore

when you find copper ore on the surface as pickable bits thjeres always a bit of mineable copper under

[astral swift]

yeah, i've found and marked some deposits of ore, and collected the nuggets up top.

the ingame guide just said to get 60 nuggets before making any tools

[severe jay]

at minimum you'll want 40

20 for a pickaxe, and 20 for a hammer to actually crush the ore chunks into nuggets so you can actually smelt the stuff you dig up

the next bottleneck after that is ~130ish nuggets(?) to get an anvil and a saw
once you have all of those you're pretty much gucci to make most everything in the game

[hazy pier]

I got a piece of forlorn hope armor

the helm

[astral swift]

living in a pond is pretty OP

rabbits keep wandering in for no clear reason, and they are very slow swimmers who make for easy kills

and when a wolf attacks I can just lure them into the water and dive, where they can't get me, so I can safely poke them to death with a spear while out of reacah

[unkempt horizon]

water is your friend when hunting yeah

[inner hornet]

being hunted too

Water being th only reason I survived a wolf attack

[ebon plover]

grug has discovered new swamp meta - grug, 50,000 BCE

[hazy pier]

you can make rabbit traps using crops

[hazy pier]

i minde some more copper

sady this vien was poor quailty

[ebon plover]

We need more ferrous veins and casseritite

[hazy pier]

ive been prospecting but i havent seen any of high value

wolf has but i have no idae where he has been looking

ive just been checking my 25% copper i found

[past obsidian]

Ea-nasir would like to know your location

[hazy pier]

this is the same prospect spo tas the last load i got

also still no gold or silver

[astral swift]

where do i get flax

there's a lot of important crafting recipes that need it, but i haven't found it anywhere

[hazy pier]

you need to find wild flax then when you fidn it you can plant the seeds'

somtimes it can drop fromdrifters and broken vessels

[astral swift]

is there anywhere in particular the wild flax spawns?

[hazy pier]

just everywhere

im ruspied you havent seen any

generall when yo usee wild crops you can pickup up at any time to get the seed

but if they are done like 9/9 for flax they give you the crop plus seeds

[astral swift]

oh thank god finally

[hazy pier]

btw holding stuff in your left hand makes you lose hunger faster

[civic fjord]

Would there be any issue on the server moving the various berry bushes closer to the farms?

Would make it easier to collect them for wine

[ebon plover]

no problem

[latent gyro]

guh

[ebon plover]

holding two things at once is tiring

[hazy pier]

my map in sapiens

[civic fjord]

Sapiens doesn't have a compass?

[astral swift]

fucking god

i was meticulously luring some boars back to my base

and i was getting close when a pack of wolves decided to attack

they killed me (and presumably the boars)

and now i have to find my way back to my stuff before it despawns in a nighttime storm

[hazy pier]

nope

I hvae a mod for a compass but i need a peice of magnatitre

[astral swift]

i got back to my stuff, but some of it had despawned and the wolved just immediately killed me again

twice

i am approaching the point of "genuinely just not having fun with this game anymore"

[hazy pier]

wolves are pretty strong

Honestly part of the draw for me on malefactor is less aggro range for aniimals

[ebon plover]

early VS especially with wolves and newly aggressive boars is hard

[hazy pier]

Ive never bothered with geting animal raising

[astral swift]

it feels so shitty to lose stuff i literally spent hours getting due to "ah, shouldn't have decided to exist where three wolves would spawn"

[hazy pier]

one thing i migh recomend is the carryon mod, you can put a basket on your back that acts as an extra backpack(that safetly is placed on ground at death, you can also change the loss on death settings if you want

the game has a lot of settings to let you tailor stuff like diffculty

[ebon plover]

if you cut down trees it helps to prevent wolf spawning

[hazy pier]

i surviced geting hit by a boar with .1 hp

earlier

and then almost died to the hail

Oh something im not sure if you noticed serval but the nutitaion part of the hud

the higher these bars are the highre your max hp is

[astral swift]

alright got me stuff back

and ive just enclosed the boars in a temporary dirt prison because i don't feel like dealing with more wrangling atm

[severe jay]

make sure they're not fully enclosed, animals can despawn if it's pitch black for too long

[hazy pier]

I found out that vintagestory actully has a easteregg to a youtubre

theres a clay slab called ethos slab

[hazy pier]

https://youtu.be/aJ-F_iK-rEg?feature=shared

[past obsidian]

Oh nice

[hazy pier]

can they be enclosed if they have light

[ebon plover]

we hebben een serius probleem

there's so much grain it no longer fits in one box per grain

we may need a grain cellar and a vegetable cellar separation

or just even more crates and vessels

[hazy pier]

i probally wont play online until my new mouse gets in

[civic fjord]

Couldn't we make better crates for grains?

[past obsidian]

Unfortunately we can't.

Better crates doesn't allow for storing perishables.

I can check config files real quick though

Yea its a no go it seems

[tidal drum]

Stop growing so much and make some bread with what you have

[ebon plover]

we got some bread

but why would we stop growing

im gonna shoot for 1 million koku

[unkempt horizon]

this is the fuckin syrup all over again may

at some point you have Enough Food

[ebon plover]

good news

[civic fjord]

If we have that much grain I'll probably just give it away to the animals

[ebon plover]

we actually also have disturbing amounts of berries to

[civic fjord]

Increases their weight

[ebon plover]

to the point that we're making medicinal alcohol in litres

[civic fjord]

I'm waiting for the next crop, though I need to find more blueberries

[civic fjord]

Borax to the northeast, there's a cave around there with borax just in the entrance

[hazy pier]

im not sure iron actully exists anymore

[red axle]

I mineded it all

[hazy pier]

toby did find a 2.22% spot but i couldnt find it when i tried mining down

i also just found a 2.25

[red axle]

spooky

[hazy pier]

yeah ive found two underground ruins but zero iron

[red axle]

if all else fails there's still an exposed hematite vein at the coordinates i posted

[hazy pier]

this is the map filtered for hematie

[red axle]

i mined quite a lot but hematite veins tend to be massive anyway

[hazy pier]

playing without a map is kinda intresting but it also does make it where its really hard to explore

[hazy pier]

i got hit by a lighning bolt

[red axle]

only 6 hp

Damn.

Seraphs are built different I guess

[hazy pier]

it wasnt a direct hit

it was i think 4 blocks away

[hazy pier]

I foound a good reason to use brass torhc holders

if you can't get candles its your only option

and you can pan zinc

[civic fjord]

You could also just do bowls of fat if you're really pressed for resources

[hazy pier]

oh toby i did drop off your grinder

[civic fjord]

Thanks, I'll set it up later and then we have automatic lime (not really)

[ebon plover]

fat bowls are nice ngl

They're cheap and decent

Irl we didn't even switch over to almost purely lanterns until the like 1800s

[civic fjord]

Looking through VS mods again, this

It looks like it could be neat, but I wonder how it affects food balance

Also concerned if the debuffs it gives will lead to a starvation spiral

[hazy pier]

the 60-70 doe not seem realiztic

for perspective 100 days is a year

[ebon plover]

it should be much more like 20-30 at most

also frankly i feel like criticising this aspect of the game for not being micromanagy is silly

you typically end up eating a fairly balanced diet naturally

i don't want to spend time thinking about how many proteins im getting in my cooked meal

[hazy pier]

I was about to stop this sapiens world when i realized i survied with .1 hp and now i kinda wanna see if i can last a year

one thing that is kinda intresting is that mining is harder while also being less dangrous

[astral swift]

is there any mechanic for domesticating wolves

[past obsidian]

No

[astral swift]

I've had a baby wolf enclosed in a pit since I killed her parents a while ago

o 😔

[hazy pier]

i think you can capture and sell them for money

[past obsidian]

This might of changed with 1.19, but last I knew the 'captured wolf pup' item can only be got from traders.

[hazy pier]

yeah im not sure if you can caputre and sell im just thinking of a maybe

[hazy pier]

used one brass torcholder

for the tower

[past obsidian]

@ebon plover A Culinary Artiliary got updated

[hazy pier]

neat

[past obsidian]

But not Expanded Foods

[hazy pier]

i still dont have a new mouse yet

we ordered one monday

[ebon plover]

nice bottles time

[past obsidian]

I'm checking right now to make sure that Expanded Foods will work, despite not being updated

ACA and EF are now installed

[left silo]

Expanded Food could really use a graphic update, my pastry is still looking broken!

[ebon plover]

made a quick addition

[red axle]

the shelves yearn for the syrup

[left silo]

I remember the racks in my old basement that are just full of wines, ridiculous amount of it

[astral swift]

is there a good way to get saltpeter

that doesn't require getting through 100,000,000 drifters

[hazy pier]

it can be close to the surfacish sometimes

[astral swift]

wait

juicing berries decreases the total satiety they give?

what is the purpose

[ebon plover]

lasts significantly longer

any process to preserve food in VS makes it less nutrutious

on average berries last maybe a few days, juice lasts over a week, wine lasts over a month

[astral swift]

i mean, cooking food in a pot makes it last longer and give more nutrition

unless i misunderstood the numbers

[ebon plover]

yeah but that's cooking

juicing doesn't add anything it just takes away flesh

cooking only makes a few things last longer too

For most vegetables it makes them spoil sooner

[severe jay]

If u juice the berries you can also dry them (with expanded foods) to make them last a long time with a very slight decrease, it's a good way to make sure you still have fruit through the winter

[hazy pier]

you also can use the mash left over to feed animals

[severe jay]

True but the mash is what you craft into the squeezed berries to dry

[hazy pier]

I know they are probally adoving something like redstone but I would like tripwires to activite various things

a one time use tripwire would be good for caputnuig animals

[hazy pier]

pain

this did result in me finding some tin though

[astral swift]

so how does armor damage reduction work

does having three pieces of armor with 0.6 damage reduction mean I take 1.8 or 0.6 less damage

[hazy pier]

when your attacked you hit get in a random lcation

i forget the chances for each spot

shields also work better when you crouching thats what i means by active

passive is the chance to block when not crouching

chest armor is hit the most often i cant remember the two other chances

[ebon plover]

@unkempt horizon we return.. zyklus

[astral swift]

also do the penalties for armor stack?

[hazy pier]

yes

armor can be repaired evne at 0 durbality

[astral swift]

so wearing three armor pieces that each give +12% hunger means you get +36% hunger?

[hazy pier]

yeah

[inner hornet]

oh it's additive not multiplicative?

[hazy pier]

it tells you in the charcter menu

[astral swift]

gaaaah

[hazy pier]

little thing ive noticed some people dont know is bits can be hit upwords ontop of another even whe nthey cant be moved other directions

[ebon plover]

btw @past obsidian are you sure EF is on the server? it doesnt seem like it is

[past obsidian]

Yea its installed

Let me restart the server though just in case

Yea the mod is loading.

[ebon plover]

awesome yea it wasnt loading earlier

[astral swift]

what the fuck am i looking at

[hazy pier]

a puddle of death

[ebon plover]

need some help setting up a pulveriser

swapping food production systems and metal production systems at once is impossible

[hazy pier]

need more resin?

[ebon plover]

need help with the granite block, resin, and pounder caps

[hazy pier]

i know where the resin is

[ebon plover]

sme kind of cauldron bug happening

[hazy pier]

one thing i wish was vanilla is cooking omre items in the oven

[ebon plover]

confirmed there's a compatibility but for boiling in cauldron rn

We are saved from syrup

[ebon plover]

chat this is real

[hazy pier]

if you curious this is where i found a large node

[ebon plover]

I see
I still really don't understand mining but that's good to know

[hazy pier]

the green is the high cassirite

[ebon plover]

man we need a hopper system oiof

starting on crushing the quartz and bauxite and its so slow

[ebon plover]

does anyone want to place an outfit order

right now the only cloth i can't make is red cloth due to a lack of cinnabar

anything else is available

[ebon plover]

we may need more shelves

[ebon plover]

we desperately need storage space

[ebon plover]

how do people feel about this as the armour set

brown helmet, blue body, green legs, blue shield

[hazy pier]

idk if i like the plain or the blue more personally

for the body

[latent gyro]

would trust to defend my fertile valleys from the northern city states/10

[hazy pier]

taiored gambison is one of the best armor in the game

its not the strongest in terms of raw defense

but it has nearly no negatives

[ebon plover]

It's also significantly cheaper

[ebon plover]

making some salt yay

one month till salt

[hazy pier]

ocean water?

ill probally hop on and start working on something ive been wanting to for a while

[ebon plover]

yeah

also nearly finished the pulverizer setup

[ebon plover]

automatic pulverising done, tailored gambeson being dyed, iron shields being wrought

we arm for war against nothing

[hazy pier]

id rather we save the iron for tools/steel tools

[hazy pier]

@ebon plover its done

[hazy pier]

does anyone need a large dirt area cleared?

i need soil as filler material

[astral swift]

remember to always craft your soil into cob to drastically increase your building blocks

[hazy pier]

thanks for that i never looked into cob caues its ugly

a food presivasion tip is mex veggies with meat in your stews

also servla if you ever decide to join the server message someone thats be on it to help you get to the town

[hazy pier]

anyone happen to know what the fastest to harvest full block is?

if by hand

i undereasteid how much dirti neeed

[ebon plover]

Still dirt

[hazy pier]

ok ill porballly just make some arid dirt when i do blueprinting

[hazy pier]

rift spawned right where my workspot was

[hazy pier]

i have dug 4 mineshafts

not a single bit of iron

plenty of qurtz and copper

[hazy pier]

this is 114 bars

there is still more in that mine

[edgy carbon]

are those cabinets 👀

[hazy pier]

better crates

a mod on the server

[edgy carbon]

ohhhh

[hazy pier]

they can even be increased in capacity

[edgy carbon]

Just like cabinets...

[hazy pier]

crates are really good for when you have a lot of stacks of one item

which is usally logs

[left silo]

it's more efficient to store the ore in chucks instead of bits I think

...though that's also more because I'm just being fucking lazy

[ebon plover]

if you're using a chest, not if you're using crates

[left silo]

I mean, in a chest, you can store 1024 of them because they stack 64 per grid right? and in a crate, it would be around that number too

[ebon plover]

yeah but theres various kinds of chunks

[left silo]

breaking them into bits means you can store double that number, but good quality ore crack into more than just 2 bits

fair

I guess I just like to, stare at my ores

[ebon plover]

like if you have poor chunks in slate, poor chunks in granite, medium chunks in slate, medium chunks in andesite, medium chunks in granite

that's like 5 slots for one thing of bits

[left silo]

I really like malachite, they look so pretty

[hazy pier]

im very glad i found the vien even if the cave is evil

also yeah ore blasting bombs are extremely good for nests

infact they might be the best use for the bombs

[left silo]

locust?

[hazy pier]

yeah

i got some blasting powerder from a chest mad esome and it instant destroyed a nest i used one on

there is still several more nests down there

[ebon plover]

soy!

@hazy pier did you take the iron axe?

and the pick?

[hazy pier]

yes I meant to make new ones but i was tired after my mining

[ebon plover]

i think we need more people or to be less wealthy

[hazy pier]

I made a bunch of nails, next time your on could you make some tailored leggings and helm, im probally just gonna fix up a forlorn chestplate for my body armor

[ebon plover]

sure, do you want any colour between plain/brown/blue?

I can also get you an iron falx

[hazy pier]

ill think about a bit

[ebon plover]

also if anyone wants particular dates we have all them available now

*dyes

[hazy pier]

white looks good on leggings

i mean plain

[ebon plover]

And for helm? I can get them ready quickly

[hazy pier]

helm im still not sure i think blue matches it more sinc ea lot of the upper spos of the armor is blue

[ebon plover]

And do you want a shield?

[hazy pier]

not for now

[ebon plover]

Alr I'll arm you shortly

[hazy pier]

its fine im not in a hurry its just I didn't think about armor too hard cause until now we never ran into anything worse then a few wolves

and even wolves arent that common

[ebon plover]

Yeh we only need to worry about drifters

And not the worst enemy of other players

[hazy pier]

i can also make my own non tailor class related gear later if i need them

[ebon plover]

If only we had horses

[hazy pier]

rafts are just horses for the water

[ebon plover]

Not as impressive

I want to ride out on my horse and armour

[eager gazelle]

put the armour on the horse

[hazy pier]

lack of far travel besides random teleportsters ie one thing i deeply want

[ebon plover]

related to horses but I think war in vintage story would be terrifying

[hazy pier]

i need another gold plate to fix the armor up i thought i only needed 2

at least quarz wont be a problem

[ebon plover]

we are nearly to steel and by nearly to steel I mean fox is finishing up forging the last ingredients

Before the end of the second year we will have steel

may need to cut down a few redwoods for fuel though

Each batch of steel takes 32 charcoal

[hazy pier]

might be better to use the other coal for that

if it uses less of that

and yeah the best way to get the fuel woudl be to cutdown redwoods

and use the iron chest as a backpack

[hazy pier]

storm is over

[ebon plover]

i just need to add more space

[hazy pier]

is that whats wrong with the thingy?

[ebon plover]

yeah i screwed up where i placed the charcoal

[queen nexus]

There’s already a server here so it wouldn’t make sense to publicize a new one right

[hazy pier]

so you can capture bighorns lambs in boxes

[hazy pier]

Hey ive been sorta soft crashing on the server

its like its kicking me off as if i crashed but the game isnt closhing

well it stopped

nvm

[hazy pier]

i think its fixed now?\

nvm

ima try singleplayer see if it happens there too if it does then its me

[hazy pier]

https://www.vintagestory.at/blog.html/news/v1194-rc1-now-with-glue-included-r377/

huh

i now wish i kept more of the ruin stuff i saw

[left silo]

what is clutter block for?

Cooking pots can now be used to cook non-food items; but cooking such substances in a pot will result in a "Residue-covered pot" which can never again be used for meal recipes: nobody likes to eat glue!

you know, this part always irks me in some survival game where you can cook food and make stuff in the same place

so this is a nice way to address it

[hazy pier]

clutter just looks cool

i do wonder abotu the repair

will it stay the same or look nicer

im going to test this actully

oh nvm

its not actully out out yet

its in rc canidate

[ebon plover]

im also crashing on server

[hazy pier]

yeah i was too last night

[hazy pier]

Oh when 1.19.4 comes out maybe we shouldnt update to it stright away one of the changes i really hate

"Raw hides will begin to rot after 5 days. Oiling or soaking the hide will prevent it from rotting."

https://mods.vintagestory.at/norottinghides that was fast

[hazy pier]

I also found out that they are making soil,sand, and stone 20% slower to mine

[kindred schooner]

Ugh

[hazy pier]

its thankfully pretty easy to revert

[hazy pier]

I restarted the steel furnace thingy

[hazy pier]

does anyone know where the iron chest is?

nvm ofund it

steel sure does take a long time

[ebon plover]

takes 7 days

[hazy pier]

half way

[ebon plover]

we should probably invest in coal mining

[hazy pier]

i know where some is

[hazy pier]

i think i underestimated how much redwood i needed

[hazy pier]

steel obtained

[hazy pier]

I also started making some more refactory bricks

[ebon plover]

we have so much iron that im doing the unthinkable

forging armour

[left silo]

yessss

I still prefer gambeson on long ranged trip, wearing metal armor just feels too slow

[hazy pier]

i usally wear a heaver chestplate since thats what gets hit the most

and the other 2 are gambison

i hate how you cant use the wrench on quarter redwood blocks

[inner hornet]

I love it

[ebon plover]

we have an obscene amount of iron so I think making scale iron is a good middle ground

[hazy pier]

I think in terms of negatives it goes chain>brigdline>scale>plate

[ebon plover]

yes

but it goes in reverse for positives

So you balance negatives with defense

[hazy pier]

i perfer brigdlin ecause i like how it looks and its not as expensive

[left silo]

brigadine needs leather though, but I guess you guys got that one figured out

[ebon plover]

The problem with brigandine is that it has such awful durability

[left silo]

...the only reason I lacked leather for so long in my first playthrough is because I can't fucking find lime

[ebon plover]

yeah VS is all about crucial resource bottlenecks

And we live without any of those

[hazy pier]

it only has 100 less then scale

[ebon plover]

less protection though

So it takes more direct damage

besides we have plenty of iron

I'm only making one suit of armour rn

If we had to armour a group of people I'd do brigandine

But I'm just trying to make one good set

[hazy pier]

Also i fixed the steel oven

[ebon plover]

niceeee

I need to build that warehouse

Will do later today

[left silo]

honestly if you guys have more than enough iron and iron ore source, it doesn't matter what you make

you can just repair the armor later with iron plate or chain or whatever

I had a chain meteoric iron armor before, but I barely use it because making more chain is a gigantic pain

meanwhile I already have a plate smashing helvehammer machine that can do things for free, when there's wind

[hazy pier]

i have forlorn helm and chest

i might get the blackguard legs

[left silo]

oh right, just remember I got this

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AbRKGOWI-lLcBL6Mjl-8Onf-CzxtVOI_j2MYNhrLvx0/edit?usp=sharing

look at how much plate armor costs

utterly ridiculous

[hazy pier]

i think i need 1.5 gold plates to repair my forlorn parts

[left silo]

oh you gonna need a lot more than that to repair it, to pristine at least

[hazy pier]

or 2.5 if i go with greaves

[left silo]

what are you guys gold reserve?

[hazy pier]

1 plate and 18 nuggets

[left silo]

ah

ah...

[hazy pier]

i think i got half of it from panning half of it from finding qurz with gold

[left silo]

you really need ore blasting bomb to make gold or silver mining in the quartz mine more manageable

[hazy pier]

ore blasting bombs can take out locust nests in one hit

[left silo]

nice

[hazy pier]

speaking of i just found another nest

[left silo]

https://mods.vintagestory.at/rivers oh cool, I always wanted actual river in VS

[civic fjord]

Oooh, wooden house over the river

[hazy pier]

they act like rivers too

if you go on them you go faster

[dense saddle]

👋

[ebon plover]

Changed my mind we need limestone again

Maybe like one or two stacks of stones tops

[hazy pier]

oh yeah we should probally make a field somehwere that exists just to make horsetail

[sterile inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/840865230821261333/1208223419183800412/image.png?ex=65e280be&is=65d00bbe&hm=e3608a30b0936c585931d4c04aba7ccba629299e3226c31a23af5ee93b0ec01c&

My fire went out

I'm scared

(I just started don't tell me what might be out there)