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#dark tidings (Darktide for people in the searchbar)
split mantleBOT
I wonder, is there a Veteran "special weapon" that's good against hordes? And is it the Accatran?
shrewd kite
yeah, it's noticeable if you upscale from below 60fps
opaque crown
Generally your anti horde weapons will be the formerly lawbringer shotgun, the one with the flat special shot; the braced autos, the agripinaa auto
the heavy shotty also works well
shrewd kite
Generally your anti horde weapons will be the formerly lawbringer shotgun, the o...
i saw a few players doing seemingly good work with the recon lasgun into hordes
marsh gyro
I wonder, is there a Veteran "special weapon" that's good against hordes? And is...
The heavy Accatran (now named the Mk XIV) has punch through on its shots so it's really efficient in groups, goes good with Speedload and Dumdum
Similarly, the Agripinaa Infantry Auto and the Agripinaa Braced Auto are good that way too while the other marks go with volume of fire
split mantleBOT
I see. Thanks! I'll have to look into the Accatran 14.
cyan depot
That makes me think a blank personally
foggy latch
my accatran XIV is my prodigal son
shrewd kite
oh huh plasma does not punch through bulwark shields anymore
Bulwarks no sell a lot of hits now
foggy latch
i go through whole missions just nonstop gunning down enemies
Still unsure what role Inf Lasguns are supposed to fill compared to Laspistols
They kill maniacs slightly faster but kill flak noticeably slower
Back when the slow shot high damage could one tap shooters on body shots it had a role for infinite exec stance
heavy geyser
I believe lasguns kill in fewer headshots
One of my friends is a bigtime headclicker and enjoys the infantry lasguns quite a lot.,
Particularly killing elites quickly
marsh gyro
A big part of it is range and blessing selection - Laspistols have Infernus and Dumdum for rapid close range damage while infantry lasguns can get the super combos of Deadly Accurate / Headhunter and No Respite / Falter
heavy geyser
Yeah that's about the size of it.
spamming infernus laspistols isn't quite the same as having a proper rifle on your shoulder
marsh gyro
With a left side tree 10 stack marksman focus + stance build the heavy Infantry Lasgun (used to be the Mk XII, now the Mk IX) can one shot everything important without a crit on weak spot hit (ragers take 2 shots, reapers take 3) and with stance up can 1 shot ragers which is neat - it has reverse range scaling where it does more damage more than 15 m out
foggy latch
i guess i overvalue being able to bodyshot a mauler to death quickly
marsh gyro
Mauler packs get shredders or the chain sword in that case yeah
foggy latch
i just like having the flexibility of laspistols broad range of effective targets
marsh gyro
Yeah they also let you run super fast which is its own reward
opaque crown
lasguns i find are a bit of a do everything weapon alongside the autoguns, but are easier to use
my dedicated executioners stance build rocks a lasgun for that purpose
foggy latch
i do love my High Noon build
cloud hazel
without the sight mods, I have a hard time using the autoguns at all
foggy latch
w/ da hammer fanning revolver
foggy latch
without the sight mods, I have a hard time using the autoguns at all
yer tellin me
i hate the headhunter ironsights
heavy geyser
the tall post on the infantry autoguns are the most difficult to use in my experience but the headhunters had nice flat ones
A lot of the iron sights in this game feel natural
foggy latch
thats why i use my bullet hose inf autogun with exec stance and just hip fire mfs like i am a WW2 paratrooper with a tommygun
cloud hazel
the headhunters are a lot better than the infantries, which isn't helped by how hard a columnus kicks relative to any spec of headhunter
marsh gyro
The Accatran recon lasgun sights are super awful and blinded by the lasgun flash which is mitigated by the fact they have super accurate hipfire and you can go most all the mission without aiming
foggy latch
cloud hazel
the accatran's weird little ant butthair is probably the most egregious sight in the game
foggy latch
i have no trouble with the accatran sights
heavy geyser
my headclicker friend said they really like the two-shot headhunter with the talent that increases crit chance on non-crit weakspot hits, I think it was
the two-shot one specifically having really good synergy with something
foggy latch
i think this might be a case of personal opinion but i have no problem if the sights are ugly if the sight picture is good
headhunters have horrible sight picture
cloud hazel
I did main a lot of bolter, although that's another case of 'the ads is secretly hipfire'
heavy geyser
I don't think anyone chooses a sight picture for their aesthetics
foggy latch
the inf autoguns, as ugly as the blade is, have a much more useable sight picture
this is a garbage sight picture
drowsy tusk
Nuh uh
cloud hazel
guns above pistol-scale just kind of look like bricks to me so I'm somewhat inured to it
cyan depot
There’s a really funny infantry autogun skin you can get which makes the sights borderline unusable because the eagle decorations on the front of the gun make the front sight extremely thick
foggy latch
when you line up your shot with the headhunter, you cannot see any of your target
which is crucial for a good sight picture
heavy geyser
if you ping your target you can see them through the gun
cloud hazel
at range a giant post does the exact same thing with most man-sized targets
heavy geyser
I've played with enough teammates who never ping to know that lots of rejects don't know this
ping flamers especially so you can see them through the fire
ping crushers so you can see the moment they die
foggy latch
at range a giant post does the exact same thing with most man-sized targets
the inf autoguns at least give you some view to the sides of your target so you know if youre pulling off of them
drowsy tusk
this is a garbage sight picture
If it had 3 dot it’d be more readable but yea it kinda suck
foggy latch
its sighted like a sporting rifle and not a military rifle
its like a hunting shotguns little bead
fine for hunting, bad for man-killing
drowsy tusk
Give me 40k tritium glow sights that irradiate the user
cloud hazel
Give me 40k tritium glow sights that irradiate the user
i cannot imagine a world where the plasma gun is not a machine that turns veterans into pug dogs
drowsy tusk
The mastery bolt pistol has sights like a glock
Do it have the whitef out u?
Like this?
cloud hazel
the whuh
cloud hazel
oh that's hilarious
drowsy tusk
The Glock comparison confused me but I see what you mean
Also big contrasting spots on the posts
cloud hazel
reminds me of redrix's broadsword from destiny with the big parentheses
heavy geyser
Not having the textured bits below the rear sights helps too I feel
Its all dark around the sights
foggy latch
thats good
being able to see the shoulders when aiming at a man-shaped targets head is really important
marsh gyro
I can't remember which helbores it applies to but the old freebie red skin has a better post than the default helbore post, might be the heavy one
foggy latch
unfortunately my opinions are entirely reality ingrained
my gun opinions are baked in by experience
drowsy tusk
He’s simply to real
heavy geyser
damn,
foggy latch
i had gun and sight doctrine hammered into my brainmeat
heavy geyser
suspend MY disbelief?
foggy latch
so having big brick sights that cover your entire target and bounce back at you when you shoot
makes me irrationally upset
heavy geyser
When my teammates are too far away I can see their skeletons too
marsh gyro
Take a Swing is so good
foggy latch
especially with the new transforming shovel
since you can flip it, do the push-into-counter combo
for an immediate amped damage dome spike
drowsy tusk
When my teammates are too far away I can see their skeletons too
That happens normally irl for yall too right?
cloud hazel
if you spend enough years learning about inverse kinematics, you can actually see the bones in someone's model
marsh gyro
the army didnt want to buy me the x-ray eyes
They got a forge world for those in 40k land, you can order like twenty
heavy geyser
That happens normally irl for yall too right?
yeah.
cloud hazel
i read morpho thirty times and like a fallout character i got the perk that gives me musculoskeletal vision
drowsy tusk
Glad to know I’m not a skeleton obsessed freak(lie)
heavy geyser
frankly if I can't see the beating hearts of my trusted comrades through a brick wall I don't feel properly immersed in my gun sim.
marsh gyro
foggy latch
my armory
i like to paint my guns red to make them shoot faster to match my outfits
silent egret
How’s the new Darktide update?
soft summit
Good
marsh gyro
How’s the new Darktide update?
There's a new level and a new event
soft summit
Also I feel the Event is set up for another Boss Fight ala the Karnak Twins
heavy geyser
The train mission is a really nice change of pace from 25-30m missions
It's short but intense.
opaque crown
its good, its taking some getting used to
and my masteries seem low for how much i played, but its easy to get mastery points
foggy latch
really wish theyd make the collars on 90% of vets cosmetics get zapped when putting on headgear with neck coverings
its so annoying that the vast majority of vets chest pieces clip in this same exact way with so many helmets
still clipping but harder to see i guess
soft summit
WW1 soldier
cyan depot
There was body armor in both world wars it was just sort of specialist issue
foggy latch
when the order comes down that a whole regiment got infected by tox gas and you need to put down still-thinking former comrades
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> seeking excellent gamesfolk for killing enemies
silent egret
when the order comes down that a whole regiment got infected by tox gas and you ...
Those cosmetics are good!
sacred pagoda
Why does this thing need to verify the files basically every time I open it?
foggy latch
just say no
sacred pagoda
I kind of assumed it wouldn't let me play if I did.
cyan depot
same tbh
drowsy tusk
Good shotty
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> we looking for more gamers
plucky isnt playing and varms about to go after one missionay
tough compass
Give me a few minutes
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> we looking for more gamers
If you can get me out of work
tough compass
Looks like I will be 10ish minutes maybe. Steam hadn't downloaded the update yet
I wish Darktide let me name loadouts so when they get reset I remember what I was doing with them
heavy geyser
thats a good catachan look
drowsy tusk
I wish Darktide let me name loadouts so when they get reset I remember what I wa...
You can give them a symbol
tough compass
Hmm, I also feel like perilous assault and souldrinker are on wrong sides of the psyker skill tree
Yeah, btu the symbol only gets me, like, 25% of the way there lol
worldly talon
thats a good catachan look
That was the intent
drowsy tusk
I had like 200 hours in the game when I found out so I must spread the knowledge
tough compass
haha, that's fair
tough compass
I had like 200 hours in the game when I found out so I must spread the knowledge
I think it is currently broken for me lol:
drowsy tusk
Huh
tough compass
I can change them. But I can't see the symbols before hand lol
cloud hazel
uhhhh
drowsy tusk
Loadout symbol gatcha
soft summit
What's the chances the current event will lead into a new Special mission?
drowsy tusk
1/3 off the top of my head
tough compass
<@&1042950387478560878> Does anyone want to tide darks?
split mantleBOT
I'm up, sure.
marsh gyro
Yeah I'll be on in 5
tough compass
lol
foggy latch
wrist breaker 9000
foggy latch
dawn wolf
you'll take some work, but this is my shotgun now
marsh gyro
you'll take some work, but this is my shotgun now
You're gonna hit so many high scores with the slugs
foggy latch
ive always been disappointed by the combat shotguns
dawn wolf
You're gonna hit so many high scores with the slugs
I fucking adore the slugs, i saved my group from a poxburster one time with their stagger
and snipers are hilariously laughable due to them
dawn wolf
the other shotgun i had was like 70-75% ammo and only had 3 more rounds
like, no offense i get what you're saying but the difference isn't like a full load is all
(that and if the tube size goes higher than 12 i will be bored out of my skull when reloading)
foggy latch
i used to really like running the kantrael shotgun with vet
but when it stopped one-tapping gunners it rapidly fell off
dawn wolf
When i upgraded it, it got full salvo on it naturally and since the slug counts for it
very fun combo.
foggy latch
though i do want to try a marksmans focus kantrael
foggy latch
When i upgraded it, it got full salvo on it naturally and since the slug counts ...
i dont like the slug shotgun
i like the big shooty high damage one
dawn wolf
Slugs are big shooty high damage though
foggy latch
manually loading one at a time tho
dawn wolf
... yeah?
it's a quick load you can interrupt with an aim
foggy latch
and the normal shots with that gun are painfully anemic
dawn wolf
like, the moment the shell's loaded you can just aim and fire
dawn wolf
and the normal shots with that gun are painfully anemic
Man what do you want me to say? sorry for liking a gun you don't?
mortal crystal
Also, on Vet at least you have Weapon Spec so you're loading rounds by just killing stuff
If every time you reload you load every single round yeah it'll suck but you don't have to
dawn wolf
Aye, i typically just load one for procing full salvo or hitting a far off target
it's not like i'm spam loading slugs
mortal crystal
it's not like i'm spam loading slugs
I do but I'm a certified Lucius enjoyer so the deliberate nature is nice lol
marsh gyro
The hot shot blessing on the lucius is wild
dawn wolf
The full salvo aspect really brings the whole gun together though
cause i can slug an elite and if it doesn't die to it i can easily mop up in like, 2 shots, at most
mortal crystal
I like running Man-Stopper/Scattershot
dawn wolf
or just pop whatever's closest and go on a rampage with the buckshot
mortal crystal
Because when you get a crit slug
It's a fucking railgun shot
And just deletes a line
drowsy vine
I'm just a Heavy Inf Autogun enjoyer honestly
mortal crystal
I'm just a Heavy Inf Autogun enjoyer honestly
only played around with the medium
dawn wolf
good buffer to keep me satiated between boxes
granted i say that like i've hit red ammo with this thing yet
mortal crystal
Mostly for the Marksman keystone penance
Because at 15 stacks I could one tap shotgunners and gunners
dawn wolf
I'm just a Heavy Inf Autogun enjoyer honestly
I recently got a REALLY good heavy one recently i'm adoring
i have focus fire as my keystone myself, those slugs hit so much harder
mortal crystal
rn running weapon spec while levelling
My comfort build that I've just been slapping random shit on to level is Kraks, Damage Aura, Shout, Weapon Spec
dawn wolf
Mines kraks, scav aura, shout, and aforementioned focus fire
drowsy vine
I'm running Focus on my build as well yeah
You hit stuff like an absolute truck
None of the awkwardness that Marksman has
dawn wolf
i also enjoy the mental image of just
"THAT FUCKER, GET EM"
foggy latch
yesss
mortal crystal
What? Damage dump stat generally means into the bin.
cloud hazel
????????
mortal crystal
60 Mobility should get you your 6th dodge (and if it doesn't I know 69 mobility does)
And the other stats on Mobility don't matter
foggy latch
my goals are beyond your understanding
cloud hazel
apparently
cloud hazel
knife + braced auto is basically the csgo experience though
foggy latch
man quick match is just train mission guaranteed tonight
worldly talon
Knife for me is about stacking bleeds
I have no idea if this is optimal
But it feels good
And more damage on bleeding targets
foggy latch
bleed stacks to build the amp for the final strike
worldly talon
Who would win: The full force of a traitor Guard regiment, backed up by the might of a millions-strong chaos cult and unending hordes of undead.
One psychopathic former convict with a knife.
foggy latch
all the damage from the combat knife comes from bleed stacks, the damage amp for weak spot hits on bleed stacks, and the finesse and first target multipliers
cloud hazel
bleed crits are very real
foggy latch
and for me, the knife is a survival tool
as a vet
i pull it out when i need to dodge dance around a horde and apply mass bleed stacks, and then stab something big in the dome
cloud hazel
it just does everything and anything
the only barrier to duelling monstrosities or killing eight piled up crushers is practice
foggy latch
and honestly? i have tried knives with max damage vs max mobility and
i prefer mobility
that extra range can be the difference for being enough to fully clear a crusher downswing with a single back dash
foggy latch
i can almost taste it
worldly talon
Maniac
Recon Las kind of suffers against them, so the extra punch against ragers and mutants helps a lot
foggy latch
also, headhunter or infernus?
cloud hazel
i've always primarily seen headhunter with infernus
foggy latch
dumdum kinda pog tho
behold her
apparently dumdum applies its damage buff to infernus ticks at all ranges
foggy latch
The real questi is do I persue perfection and keep improving it even after getting ammo to 80
Do I get mobility to 60 just for the sake of Max Potential
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for doing some games?
twin wasp
sure need to dry my hair first
west mantle
behold her
damn!
neon nymph
So
I've come back to the game after a while, and I have a really weird performance problem
The game feels like it's running at a very low framerate, even though it's at or around 60
drowsy vine
So
I've come back to the game after a while, and I have a really weird performan...
turn this option off #1159883850562932826 message
last update accidentally force enabled it
drowsy vine
limpid zinc
for combat knife, damage is the dump stat
id still prefer mobility to be the dump but the damage difference between 61 and 80 is admittedly small, first target is more important
finesse is king
drowsy tusk
Found this, important to share
brazen fossil
Beautiful
neon nymph
I have a strong preference for Operation Ogrynheimer, but the rock is infinitely funny, yes
drowsy tusk
There’s really no bad option
Oggyheimer is the king of elite packs, rock for disablers box van kinda do the rock thing but it’s best at horde clear
marsh gyro
The box is kind of like the Zealot stun grenade in that it enables clutch revives
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> war unending
opaque crown
my darktide is suddenly crashing in the lobby frequently. GPU crashing specifically, which is annoying
i find the ogrynheimer is one of the most dramatically effective to changing a situation; the rock sometimes feels more conditional
white portal
My take for ogryn rock is that it's really good for being a support ogryn. Using less resources means other classes can use them.
You aren't there to be making the plans you're there to be aiding others make the plays
Closest thing to a rock play is taking down a charger in one hit
opaque crown
yall think supercharge or sunder for a power sword, paired with power cycler
bronze gull
Closest thing to a rock play is taking down a charger in one hit
having a rock in the back pocket as a semi reliable sniper domer is useful too
and extremely funny
marsh gyro
yall think supercharge or sunder for a power sword, paired with power cycler
Supercharge is real team dependent and rules for crusher busting (the team dependent part is if anyone else has brittleness) and Sunder rules for general use
sacred pagoda
I like the bolt pistol a lot.
brazen fossil
The bolt pistol is great for weapon specialist builds
I love the dang little thang
Also the power cycler buff is huge
opaque crown
Supercharge is real team dependent and rules for crusher busting (the team depen...
I figure its nice to have an option to help bust crushers when you're in a pickle
marsh gyro
Yeah with Supercharge you can reliably bust a crusher every power sword activation and without it it usually takes 4 hits
opaque crown
combo shout with a few swings and you're well taken care of
have you played with suppression oriented gungryn since the update? I think ceaseless barrage + coward culling is actually quite entertaining
And as long as you're blasting you can lock down entire shooter groups
problem is it eats up so much ammo
notably even suppressing heavy gunners
sacred pagoda
Build? I like that when I point the bolt pistol at an enemy, it makes them explode.
I also like to bring a power sword with it because it lets me cleave through crowds while the bolt pistol lets me crack specialists.
opaque crown
bolt pistol seems more approachable than the bolter on the grounds that it reloads nice and quick
soft summit
I'm currently using a Braced Autogun and a Chainsword on my veteran
sacred pagoda
Reloads fast, lets you bop enemies that get too close, explodes heretics into chunky marinara. It’s very nice.
I’m more of a chain axe guy.
I should give the combat shotgun another spin combined with a chain axe.
opaque crown
Chain axe has very much grown on me, shredder lights have saved my mass
I do think the power sword is a bit more of a better generalist
But that chain axe comes through in clutch moments for me
heavy geyser
it makes the best sounds
spiral badger
chain axe with headtaker/thunderous is vicious as hell
marsh gyro
I like Thunderous/Bloodletter myself
heavy geyser
mine has rev it up on it
spiral badger
i think headtaker is best in slot but the other slot can be whatever
rev it up is very good
heavy geyser
it synergizes well with heavy attack approaches
brazen fossil
Hmmm
I think
It's time
for the commissar vet build
Since we have dueling sword on vet now
marsh gyro
Dueling Sword/Bolt Pistol/Shredders/Shout covers a lot of bases yeah
What's neat about the dueling swords is a lot of their stats are copy pasted from the catachan knives which is why people are discovering fast melee rules
tough compass
That commissar is going to have a lot of questions if they pick the precog blessing
brazen fossil
That commissar is going to have a lot of questions if they pick the precog bless...
Well that's why it's a vet build
tough compass
It's a blessing of the weapon
brazen fossil
Huh
tough compass
I think originally it was only on psyker weapons but they relaxed it at some point before this update
brazen fossil
I didn't know
worldly talon
I think originally it was only on psyker weapons but they relaxed it at some poi...
Prior to this update dueling swords were psyker only
tough compass
Yeah
shrewd kite
do they sync updates for 40k games or somethiing? Rogue Trader, Darktide and Spess Muhreen all had updates come out within days of each other
sacred pagoda
Chainsword
limpid zinc
trying to figure out which video setting gave me this weird filter over everything
like these weird dots on the hair
oh huh
i had to turn on the intel xess
foggy latch
make sure the game didnt turn on frame generation fsr
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> round 2 rally to the call of the emperors holy ordos
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> round 2 rally to the call of the emperors holy ordos
In like an hour prolly
tulip dirge
west mantle
In y'all's opinion, what is the best horde-clear melee the Veteran can run?
Cause I really like Bolt Pistol + Krak, which clears anything bigger than a poxwalker both quickly and efficeintly, but for hordes I get bogged down.
I am currently running Stealth as my ability, so I could swap to Stance or Shout and that might help?
mortal crystal
Shock Maul, Heavy Sword, Combat Axe is decent, Dueling Saber is apparently busted with the right build, Chainsword, Power Sword, and I'm sure there's others
Shout is OP
If you are having issues with vet just run shout
west mantle
Not issues, just a drop in combat effectiveness specifically versus hordes
oh, Power Sword
That's what I've been forgetting
That should work, yeah
mortal crystal
I highly recommend giving some of the other weapons a shot. MK IX Heavy Sword was a grand old time leveling
marsh gyro
In y'all's opinion, what is the best horde-clear melee the Veteran can run?
Chain sword if you need to bust carapace in a pinch, Devil's Claw with a cleave blessing and Shred for general use
Heavy sword vet has better cleave and clear but runs slower
west mantle
I don't need to bust Carapace. I've got regen Krak for pinch and two to the dome with the bolt pistol otherwise
marsh gyro
Shockingly the helbore bayonets (the stabby ones, not so much the choppy one on the heavy) are really good at anything not a Crusher and if you get the brittleness on charged shot blessing then they can bust crushers too
west mantle
ooo
did they give us a better scope on the helbores or do I need to update my custom weapons mod?
mortal crystal
models are the same
west mantle
rip
mortal crystal
What buffs are you stacking for a crusher two shot with the bolt pistol?
west mantle
oh, not into crusher, that takes 3-4. I usually just pop a Krak onto crushers
But in essence my skills are currently "click head for +damage" and "click head for +crit %"
so clicking anything 1-2 times in the head usually triggers a crit which pops most things in 3/4
mortal crystal
The lawnmower and oneshot machine
limpid zinc
make sure the game didnt turn on frame generation fsr
yeah i had to turn that shit off it was eating my frames but afterwards i had that weird filter overlay
marsh gyro
Pre patch Vet can two tap Crushers with left side tree with bolter and bolt pistol with 10 Marksmans Focus Stacks for the rending, they just need to be crits so Surgical helps, I gotta test out post patch and with the new blessings
heavy geyser
bolt pistol advice is at least one blessing should be lethal prox
just so you activate having explosions in close or mid range
lethal prox/surgical is pretty nice
marsh gyro
Yeah Bolt Pistol can 2 tap on double crit with Deadly Accurate and Surgical, no need for Carapace Damage perk, does 2k per shot, Bolter with Surgical / Pinning Fire needs 3 shots at 1500 per to do the trick or can executioner's stance to hit the 2k per shot threshold
drowsy tusk
heavy geyser
if you wanna get your friends in, darktide is half off right now https://store.steampowered.com/app/1361210/Warhammer_40000_Darktide/
dawn wolf
if thats the half off price, damn
limpid zinc
if thats the half off price, damn
average train simulator price
cloud hazel
this is what it's like buying one years' worth of dlc for a paradox game
twin wasp
so 2 dlc?
cloud hazel
if you're LUCKY
marsh gyro
The new Psyker Smite electrocute on heavy melee node is actually pretty neat for melee builds not for the damage bump (it's like 10 extra damage) but because it'll stagger anything from the zip zap
marsh gyro
Holy smokes the Grenade Gauntlet with both melee blessings (+5% strength on hit and +25% crit chance on melee kill) is super back as a rocking primary melee, it'll bust anything single target good so you can take a cleaver on backup
marsh gyro
Shockingly powerful
opaque crown
I'm still not clear on where the grenade gauntlet sits in my arsenal
with all the melee boosts
its still not REALLY a replacement for a melee weapon
split mantleBOT
Did you already get 4?
opaque crown
yeah
the grenades are great against hordes with the punch, and you can stack up to respectably powerful melee
but i can also just swing heavies with my chosen melee
split mantleBOT
👍 I'll rest some then.
drowsy tusk
i like it as a backup for a single target/slow melee and use guntlet to knock over everythiong and then whak em
opaque crown
oh sorry im not in that group josie, i thought you meant level 4 masteries
gentle flame
I literally just realized how fucking insane this is
mfw I develop 8th grade reading comprehension
cloud hazel
it's gaming time
silent egret
I tried the new train mission with seconds to spare lmao
tough compass
Honestly, it seems like a great way to blow yourself up when you don't realise it fell off lol
I think I am annoyed at some of the choices of the train mission
Mostly there are several things that eat up time uncontrollably and that's very frustrating when you are behind on time
dawn totem
Clearly I need to step away for the game for a bit. When I've been empty on ammo after taking down two or three monstrosities plus all the elites only to have my team pilfer the last of the ammo for the final push. Yeah, my enthusiasm dips hard.
This is after the whole team nearly wipes and it's left to me to pick everyone up.
Normally I'm fine with this, but there a short limit to the amount of jackassery I can stomach.
worldly talon
"I saw it first."
But yes
It's annoying. Especially when the Veterans running grenade regen scoop up the grenade pickups before the Ogryns or Zealots.
heavy geyser
One of the things I like about bolt pistol on blades of faith zealot is you're really ammo efficient, you can get by with an occasional small ammo pickup
worldly talon
I ran a Hellbore with a left tree veteran the other day, and I don't think I ended up picking up a loose ammo box once.
heavy geyser
heavy geyser
Revolver mastery skin looks like they stuck a beer can on the front of the damn thing. Absolute unit.
limpid zinc
Clearly I need to step away for the game for a bit. When I've been empty on ammo...
i wish we had team damage every time i open a crate just for someone to rush behind me and spam e before they can even tell whats in there
marsh gyro
Does anyone else have 4 extra blessing points for the Psyker electro staff at rank 20 with nowhere to go?
marsh gyro
This Psyker node is out of control because the cleave bonus applies to ranged too which means Revolver Psyker jumps to 13 cleave (enough to blast through ragers and maulers and reapers!) and quickdraw revolver Psyker is now at 6 cleave which is actually really good for blasting mooks
foggy latch
Revolver mastery skin looks like they stuck a beer can on the front of the damn ...
zamn you wasnt jokin
marsh gyro
For folks curious about the new mode with the armored hordes it replaces the groaners and poxwalkers with flak armored infected guardsmen who have the same durability as a scab melee dude (625 HP on Damnation) and hit mass of a poxwalker (1.5) so you have to work about double as hard to get through the mooks
heavy geyser
I really like that mode since crit eviscerator chews them up all the same but the horde all sharing one uniform color makes it feel bigger somehow
mortal crystal
The additional chunk is fun to chew through tbh
foggy latch
they hit so hard
mortal crystal
no more than regular horde units as far as I can tell
marsh gyro
The visual of "it's just a dude" contrasts with the damage amount to make it seem "dang the Moebian 21st didn't skip leg day"
heavy geyser
A four stack all wearing the players' free Moebian 21st cosmetics and running that mission to make it as confusing as possible
dawn totem
Mobian rushes are making it easier to build up my Ogryn's penances.
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> gamers, the emperor needs you
worldly talon
I am around
grave talon
hey hum... can someone explain to me what cleave actually does and how it work ?
am verry stupid
foggy latch
cleave is hitting multiple peoples
drowsy tusk
How much cleavage there is
grave talon
warframe punchthrough got it
foggy latch
good cleave means more targets hit and cleave damage more damage per target hit
makes the damage split between cleaved targets more even
gentle flame
This Psyker node is out of control because the cleave bonus applies to ranged to...
It's worth noting that Warp Splitting only seems to affect melee cleave (Clem tested and confirmed that it ALSO works for ranged)
More testing required, but it sure seemed that way with the little testing I did on it
worldly talon
But yes. I am on the Tide of Darkness
gentle flame
mortal crystal
nice
heavy geyser
hey hum... can someone explain to me what cleave actually does and how it work ?
you know when you swing at a guy and your sword gets stuck in them? cleave lets it go through them instead.
marsh gyro
It's worth noting that Warp Splitting only seems to affect melee cleave (Clem te...
It's actually pretty easy to test in the Psykhanium, most guns only have 1.5 cleave and so Warp splitting only gets it to 3 which is 2 scab shooters or poxwalkers (1.5 each) and not enough to get past a scab melee guy (3.5) and revolver at 6.5 can get past a rager (10) or reaper (12.5) by getting to 13
Accatran heavy recon lastgun and the braced revolver share 3.0 base cleave so can get up to 6 with the warp splitting which is 5 groaners (1.25 per), 4 poxwalkers (1.5 per) or 2 gunners (4 per)
marsh gyro
hey hum... can someone explain to me what cleave actually does and how it work ?
It's complicated enough and the information's scattered in a bunch of different places so I might make a steam guide for it.
Short version is weapons have cleave values built in and enemies have hit mass values and your attacks go through dudes with hit mass reducing your cleave until the cleave value hits zero. E.g. if you have 11.7 cleave on a Power Sword charged attack and enemies have 1.5 hit mass you can get 8 dudes in one swing (7 * 1.5 = 10.5 leaving 1.2 left and so the 8th guy brings it to 0)
Melee Weapons have a separate cleave damage distribution (ranged just does full damage) and so different attacks distribute damage across targets different - even if you have a bunch of cleave you might only damage 2-3 targets on a big heavy strikedown attack with the main target having 100% damage and the second/third targets getting 25% while a sweeping vanguard attack might go 100/75/50/33/25 with the remainder getting 25% - eviscerators are notable because they have hella cleave but can only damage 4 targets per swing - the rest get stagger
Brutal Momentum ignores the step down in damage and you do full damage to the next guy because the step down gets ignored because of the weak spot kill and that's why it does great clear because all the dudes are getting first hit damage
If you're curious what the hit masses are for dudes it's in the source code at this link and varies by difficulty on the mooks (the mooks also have a special setting for if they're in the pox gas which increases their hit mass):
https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/master/scripts/settings/difficulty/minion_difficulty_settings.lua
If you're curious what the cleave values are for different gun functions it's also in the code for each weapon profile but it's messy so it's easier to use this calculator folks whipped up from the source code (which isn't updated for the new patch yet so all the guns have the old names)
https://dt.wartide.net/calc/
The fun part too is Strength increases (formerly Power) increase cleave amount too so Trickshooter on the revolver can add about 30% and so can Deathspitter on the recon lasguns
mortal crystal
Strength in general is just a fantastic stat that buffs everything
Like, if you ever have to chose between Strength and another stat on a Blessing go Strength unless the numbers are insane
tough compass
It's complicated enough and the information's scattered in a bunch of different places
I think this is every Fatshark mechanic lol
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> space for one has opened
worldly talon
<@&1042950387478560878> space for one has opened
I'll take it
dawn totem
I'm going to have to pull back the difficulty. After this latest update, it's like having to relearn the whole game again.
worldly talon
https://discord.gg/ktQHr7Mm
Thanks for the run!
marsh gyro
I'm going to have to pull back the difficulty. After this latest update, it's li...
It's pretty reasonable to do so because the new event and modifiers are real tough
foggy latch
oh fuck a gigachad
drowsy tusk
Wowee
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> i took a nap and my bloodlust has returned
bronze gull
where do i check which blessings you have unlocked
heavy geyser
Bring up your loadout/talent menu, it's the menu option next to talents
foggy latch
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> I AM UNLOCKED AND FULLY LOADED. john THE EMPEROR'S ENEMIES NEED bones TO ACCEPT THE WORD OF john GOD AT HIGH VELOCITY
west mantle
No worries
foggy latch
i might hop back in inna bit as my brain recharges
west mantle
ok
foggy latch
gotta restore that glycogen
west mantle
totes
gonna try a silly combat axe + plasma vet build
do people use the pickup option on shout? or is it seen as too cool-down expensive?
marsh gyro
Both of those rule so you'll have a good time
Revive shout can turn around matches otherwise lost
Instant pickups mean no DPS downtime
heavy geyser
Revive shout is great when there's a crusher or mauler pack around someone, or there's too many mutants
its good to have
sacred pagoda
Yeah, I swear by it.
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> I've got time for a few games, anyone down?
twin wasp
<@&1042950387478560878> I've got time for a few games, anyone down?
in like an hour
heavy geyser
cop that
heavy geyser
obtain that
west mantle
(I know, was joke)
@twin wasp I've got like 20 minutes left, you still intending to join?
foggy latch
pubbie zealots confuse me
a: kill the melee enemies approaching the team so the veteran can shoot the gunners and reapers lighting us up
b: ignore the melee enemies, run past them towards the gunners, and die
marsh gyro
Did they choose B and yell "I am slaughter incarnate!" along the way?
foggy latch
no they picked B and just died
i know CC isnt the most glamorous role but blease i beg of you mr pubbertson your build is far better at it than mine
sacred pagoda
But he wants to be the Big Hero!
gentle flame
Scattershot Manstopper Zarona Combat Shotgun kinda fucks on psyker
Would still do +25% flak and maniac after testing
Use the peril cleave and surety of arms to maintain high peril for huge horde clear
foggy latch
i really dislike the general mindset of the community that everyone on the team should do everything for themselves and having specialization for specific roles and weaknesses in others is bad
gentle flame
Deimos or Dueling sword for single target, assail for balance and peril maintiance
foggy latch
like, bro, its clear some classes builds are tailored to specific tasks, and cohesive team comps of specialized roles are just as valid as 4 generalist builds
gentle flame
like, bro, its clear some classes builds are tailored to specific tasks, and coh...
I very much disagree with this.
A team of 4 specialists is one player down from falling apart
Everyone needs to at the very least have a plan for every enemy type
It's okay to specialize, so long as you can hold your own, because the only player whose actions you can control are your own
foggy latch
of course, but i meant the idea that there are no roles
a good team comp doesnt have to be 4 independent generalists
marsh gyro
As long as your build has a plan for 12 ragers or 12 maulers or 12 shotgunners or 6 crushers showing up at a time you've got the bases covered pretty much
gentle flame
^ 100%
marsh gyro
Sometimes that plan is "run away, run away!"
gentle flame
Stagger is worse than killing most enemies, but it's better than nothing.
(This is why I dislike trauma staff)
Biggest set of rounding errors I've seen lmao
spiral badger
a: kill the melee enemies approaching the team so the veteran can shoot the gunn...
It's a valid way to play to rush the ranged line and tie them up so they can't fite
But you have to know how
foggy latch
they were up on a stairwell that had to be entered from the side and lighting us up in the open
zealot has so much for being able to tank ranged fire if theyre killing in melee that them ignoring melee to charge gunners and leaving the veteran to do CC just seems counterproductive to eithers strengths
spiral badger
Depends on the zealot and the vet
If it's a fast moving knife or dueling sword zealot and a weapon specialist axe vet they're genuinely better trading roles
My chainaxe/bolt pistol weapon spec vet wants to get stuck in and just chunk through a horde and genuinely doesn't want to engage a large amount of regular shooters
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> gaming is commencing in https://discord.gg/PxdnxJk6
heavy geyser
zealots charging into shooters and gunners turns off their ranged weapons
marsh gyro
When to charge vs when to stand and bang is the two sides of the darktide coin
heavy geyser
i've become a huge fan of zealot knives because it lets me horde clear and then flickshot a problem
and then go back to clearing
marsh gyro
And conveniently you get 12 of them for when the gunners spawn as a dozen
foggy latch
zealots charging into shooters and gunners turns off their ranged weapons
problem was the gunners werent immediately accessible, they had to go around to go up the stairs to them, and by the time they did, the gunners had killed me and the other zealot, then gunned them down
zealot bloodlust
dull parrot
I gave in a bought some skins the trench pilgrim set alone was worth it 
marsh gyro
I'm thinking Braced Auto with Inspiring Barrage is a winner for gun Psyker
drowsy tusk
Kx my beloved
drowsy vine
Kayex is honestly goated
drowsy tusk
I hear pre servitor and I go omg it me
heavy geyser
theeee prrrrreeee seeeeeeerrrrviiitooooorrrrrs...
foggy latch
make me into a thallax daddy kayex
silent egret
LMAO
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> Arkham Session Canceled, so I'm here for BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR, SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
drowsy tusk
I get off work in half an hour if yall are going then
foggy latch
7463932563
foggy latch
Trey used voice of command to ledge the boss on the train
pushed off the edge between train cars
hilarious
heavy geyser
I think I might have the specific build where Perfect Strike works so I'm gonna try running it over Savage Sweep for a while and see what happens.
heavy geyser
It is funny how this update kinda hid the strong version behind the cowboy version on a fresh playthrough
If I understand right, the ADS one you can get when you unlock marks.
vagrant crown
Anyone down to hop on darktide right now?
foggy latch
It is funny how this update kinda hid the strong version behind the cowboy versi...
i love both
but this is actually a zarona, the fire camo skin makes it look like the agripina
which i like
pretty good sights on it
heavy geyser
That thing is a dowsing rod for heads
foggy latch
yeah this build is very
head click until you have so much ranged finesse from marksmans focus that you can literally one shot body shot any elite or special other than the mutant
fuckin begone mauler
heavy geyser
I got a bolt pistol rigged up to one-shot a dreg gunner on crit and it's very satisfying when it happens.
on crit headshot, rather
foggy latch
this has surgical, so with deadshot and max critical modifier
it is a bodyshot bandit with basically guaranteed crits if you wait a second before firing to get 2-3 stacks of surgical
also one of the marksman focus nodes refunds 10 stamina on weakspot kills so
really works great with deadshot
heavy geyser
Mmmmm
foggy latch
and of course, hand cannon +60% rending on crits
the arizona ranger
i love how asymmetrical this armor is
bare left hand for easier reloading
worldly talon
<@&1042950387478560878> https://discord.gg/ktQHr7Mm
Hello, I long for competent teammates.
Aaaaaaand my Darktide is updating
Fucking great.
foggy latch
issa patch
marsh gyro
@worldly talon How's that update going? We're between missions if you want to hop in still
worldly talon
<@119483395431464960> How's that update going? We're between missions if you wan...
I am currently reinstalling because, for the fifth fucking time in a row or so, Steam borked the download and corrupted everything.
marsh gyro
Good luck!
marsh gyro
It turns out Empowered Psyonics Smite kicks butt with -50% peril generation from the tree
marsh gyro
Oh yeah that's an artifact of the new talent trees for Vet/Ogryn/Psyker
worldly talon
No, I mean I already did that
the build I was on is still there
It's just THE OTHER FOUR LOADOUTS are no longer there
marsh gyro
Do they have the red exclamation point or are the icons gone
drowsy tusk
worldly talon
Do they have the red exclamation point or are the icons gone
The icons are gone
Also all good nw
*now
marsh gyro
The icons are gone
You got robbed
foggy latch
i have been reduced to naught but a pair of pants
blissful sparrow
Pantsko the Threadable
foggy latch
k
worldly talon
I am having infinite loading
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> rock collecting in the VC
drowsy tusk
normal kill feed
sacred pagoda
They’re pretty determined to blow you up, eh?
split mantleBOT
i'm a cleaver girl, in a cleav'ble world, life's fan-slash-tic, heretic in half-tic
gentle flame
west mantle
so called "free thinkers" when I :3
mortal crystal
:3
vagrant crown
Yo anyone down to play?
foggy latch
@ the role
vagrant crown
<@&1042950387478560878>
foggy latch
this hurts
the infantry lasguns are so close to hitting breakpoints but just fall just short
honestly if they would reduce the insane recoil on the inf lasguns i could see them having a niche as a more approachable and user friendly version of the headhunters
opaque crown
tbf i already treat them like that
i have a much easier time landing headshots consistently across multiple targets with my lasgun
as a note my lasgun kills a gunner in one shot to the head usually on damnation, so tehy can definitely hit that breakpoint
foggy latch
maybe once its fully 80/80 it will
i just remember back before they upped everythings health
when you could just have infinite exec stance because you one-shot every shooter even if you winged them
and could one shot bodyshot gunners
those were the days
mortal crystal
Is that MK the old MkXII?
foggy latch
no its the old 1a
the old MkXII is now the IX
it hit the one shot headshot breakpoint, barely
doesnt hit it out of exec stance
mortal crystal
Kk
foggy latch
i do like the branx skin for the inf autogun
black and red goes good with the inquisition getup
spiral badger
honestly if they would reduce the insane recoil on the inf lasguns i could see t...
I have a setup that lets them one-shot headshot gunners of both types consistently
admittedly, you have to wait a second between shots, but that's basically normal anyway
foggy latch
i am sure they do great if youre a headshot god and can ramp up marksmans focus
spiral badger
no focus
foggy latch
admittedly, you have to wait a second between shots, but that's basically normal...
bro the opening salvo timer is so painful
spiral badger
i don't take capstones at all on this build
foggy latch
its like a full second and a half between shots
or it feels like that
it just hangs and when youre in damnation that seems really hard to keep track of
spiral badger
it's literally this long lol
foggy latch
i do like the light mark with fullauto mod
spiral badger
foggy latch
the poor mans heavy accatran
spiral badger
it's back by the time you move your aim
assuming they're not literally standing on top of each other
now, this isn't really optimal but it's the best recreation of just lasgunning heads I can make
one headshot basically everything of note that isn't mauler+, decent melee combatant, flexible with ranged weapons
you take the point out of shock trooper if you run anything non-las
foggy latch
okay yeah it seems like that 5% damage is enough to leave me just short of that breakpoint
god if they gave it surgical...
spiral badger
also the advantage the lasgun has over the headhunter is a weird one
it's better against maniacs
the headhunter takes 2 shots on trappers
foggy latch
yeah thats the one thing it does better than the laspistol
i am too center-mass-pilled to be a headshot-only andy
i cannot, it seems, dance all day
still, i wouldnt mind a buff to the inf lasguns, theyre serviceable but it would be cool to see them shine without having to work so hard to hit their defining breakpoints
theyre very skill expressive, which is good
spiral badger
honestly I find that playstyle boring anyway, I'm usually running around like a maniac with a shotgun
foggy latch
yeah i like to full auto people with the heavy accatran
spiral badger
if i want to hunt heads i just bring plasma
all i gotta do is hit vaguely in the right zip code
foggy latch
if i want to play sharpshooter andy i bring revolvey
rootin tootin point and shootin
it has the bonus side of one-shotting maulers with bodyshots
spiral badger
i've swapped to bolt pistol for that mostly
because it plays better for weapon spec shenanigans
heavy geyser
I really like the flexibility of bolt pistol
I ran a revolver for the first time in a while and felt the ammo pinch compared to having so many bolter rounds.
cloud hazel
bolt pistol might be my single favourite gun ever, we'll see when I boot up
I'm pretty washed rn
been waiting for the big overhaul
heavy geyser
The buffs they gave it this patch sanded off all the rough edges.
heavy geyser
It's so nice now as a backup gun on a big melee focus
cloud hazel
bistol knife might be either my new zelly goto or just a weapon spec vet
heavy geyser
its insane that they gave dueling sword thust blessing
foggy latch
idk the revolver just
spiral badger
you are slightly less zippy in return for even more stab
foggy latch
one shotting everything i click on, is pretty nice
heavy geyser
It's the best it's ever been.
cloud hazel
like I think the only thing stopping me for going full knives is the skill issue of being unable to dodge ragers with oceania ping
heavy geyser
A friend came back and they were running eviscerator/shredder and I was like "zealots can use recon lasgun now" and she got so happy
she's like "Oh I love the recon" and rolled one immediately
Do you run knives as crit Zealot or another branch?
foggy latch
so close...
heavy geyser
Yeah
spiral badger
for stabby stabby mc zippy i run knives
and then something weird and gross for ranged
like fire shotguun
cloud hazel
crit zelly, pretty much straight left-side
mortal crystal
she's like "Oh I love the recon" and rolled one immediately
Unfortunate that's it's kind of hard to get a Recon on Zealot rn
heavy geyser
I was asking since if you happen to be in the crit perk neighborhood and get blades of faith they do wonders for ragers
cloud hazel
I did experiment with throwing knives but I got asked to be John Stuns a lot
mortal crystal
It's not in Brunts so you just have to get lucky
spiral badger
duel sword is already very good at ragers
cloud hazel
and my aim on knives is a lil scuffed
cloud hazel
duelling sword fixes that up real nice, yeあa
heavy geyser
I love that the dueling sword special attack is another stab
cloud hazel
jesus keyboard please do not hiragana me
heavy geyser
charge heavy stab didn't kill? press the "second stab" button
spiral badger
recently i've been running duel sword throwing knife flamer zealot
heavy geyser
I gotta warm up my knife flickshots a little but when I'm hot I just will trappers and bombers away
spiral badger
and it's pretty good
the new flamer one that refunds ammo on crit is Stupid
you can basically just hold down the button and drain the entire ammo allowance if there's anything around to hit
heavy geyser
Flamer looks incredibly strong right now
cloud hazel
counter-sniping with knives feels so slick
zealot is some of the most swag you can have in an fps outside of ultrakill and getting sweet knives is up there alongside revolver quickscopes
heavy geyser
this one was peeking
heavy geyser
Oh yeah I love that they can pop bursters
For when they stumble off a ledge and take forever getting up, or get pushed over and don't detonate
"I'm not waiting for this, lemme just pop you"
I suspect they count as melee for perks since when my crit fury is hot I get a lot of crit knives
or what feels like it
cloud hazel
fatshark magic
heavy geyser
spiral badger
I suspect they count as melee for perks since when my crit fury is hot I get a l...
Fury applies to everything
It's not melee only
heavy geyser
what's updog
spiral badger
It's part of why flamer reload on crit is silly
heavy geyser
You can empty every drop of flamer you have off that one blessing
spiral badger
You run a blazing piety flamer and you're critting every other blast
heavy geyser
TF2 mode
foggy latch
acheeved...
spiral badger
Instead, give me an extinguisher blessing
cloud hazel
they would be disappointed it's not the flagellation tool
spiral badger
Let me hit burning enemies with my axe for triple damage
cloud hazel
axtinguisher combat axe would be
holy fuck
lemme run around at knife speed with my rashad
heavy geyser
you can give the zealot a Backburner. It's Fine.
I mean with ambuscade you literally can
spiral badger
The actual 40k weapon I want is the flamer-eviscerator
foggy latch
give us exterminator cartridges
spiral badger
heavy geyser
A Zealot style force staff that is their weird little book on a pole
foggy latch
let me load a hairspray bottle of prometheum underbarrel on my gun and fire a single blast of fire
heavy geyser
My name is Victor and I sell Indica.
heavy geyser
Folks call me Vindictor but I promise I'm chill.
foggy latch
underbarrel single shot hand flamer
drowsy tusk
marsh gyro
Recon Lasgun on Zealot is kind of wild
foggy latch
recon lasgun is kinda wild
my three main builds right now: IAG, Zarona crit machine, and the poor mans Hellgun the heavy recon lasgun
tough compass
What zealot talents work well with the recon lasgun?
drowsy tusk
Critttttssss
marsh gyro
What zealot talents work well with the recon lasgun?
If you go for the bottom left crit tree and grab charge and either knives or stuns, along with Duellist node (weak point damage on dodge) you can bob and weave all day and get the 50% toughness damage reduction on crit
Hipfire is tight enough no need for dance of death
drowsy tusk
foggy latch
so true
drowsy tusk
a stroggle
marsh gyro
Anyone else getting their buff bars the opposite of cluttered and half the Psyker buffs won't show up in game?
gentle flame
gentle flame
Anyone else getting their buff bars the opposite of cluttered and half the Psyke...
Been an issue for several months
not sure if FS has said anything about it
tough compass
In 5-10 minutes?
gentle flame
Ight
drowsy tusk
A classic
marsh gyro
Oh neat the 1.5.2 hotfix patch makes it so that your guns and knives now sort properly by weapon family instead of by mark name
split mantleBOT
we're up for some!
tough compass
@twilit cradle Do you have an ETA?
brazen fossil
Have y'all expirienced the glory that is the new flamer?
marsh gyro
It's super neat
brazen fossil
I'm pretty in love with it
foggy latch
New?
drowsy tusk
New blessings
brazen fossil
Two new absolutely amazing blessings
drowsy tusk
Love the refill, the brittleness is neat in concept but I miss showstopper when I have it
Refill on crits god tier tho
twilit cradle
brazen fossil
Refill on crits god tier tho
Absolutely
I, naturally, run it with a crit zealot
I've emptied the whole thing without having to reload once
heavy geyser
split mantleBOT
<@&1042950387478560878> anyone still around?
tough compass
<@&1042950387478560878> Do people want to dark tide?
fluid jungle
sure
drowsy vine
Man the Bolter is so back now
marsh gyro
The new blessings are super neat
drowsy vine
The changes to Vet were subtle but huge for the Bolter - Exe stance getting the refresh baseline lets you grab the new weapon swap speed talent and tac reload, while only sacrificing close quarters drill, you can still take grenade regen + elite damage
With the two +reload speed talents active, you can complete a reload in exe stance without it ending
Crazy shit
marsh gyro
Are you running marksman focus stacks or center tree mark target?
drowsy vine
Mark Target all the way
marsh gyro
Bonus damage for days
drowsy vine
Under the proper conditions you can one tap gunners to the body and it's a blast
marsh gyro
Pinning Fire is super bonkers good because it pushes the cleave high enough to hit 2 scab melee dudes at 4 stacks
drowsy vine
Wait does Pinning Fire affect cleave?
marsh gyro
Yeah any +Strength bonus affects impact, damage, and cleave
3 base on the bolter needs 20% strength to get past 3.5 hit mass per scab melee dude
drowsy vine
Damn that's why I've been absolutely blitzing hordes on full auto
marsh gyro
Bonus points for shooting through thin walls
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> THE EMPEROR DEMANDS YOUR LOYALTY. KILL THE HERETIC!!
heavy geyser
my best knife yet
marsh gyro
Dueling Sword is kind of wild on Weapon Specialist Veteran, was rocking a Zarona shotgun on switch
twilit cradle
<@&1042950387478560878> tide tide?
tough compass
<@&1042950387478560878> tide tide?
Are you still up for tiding?
tough compass
No problem
split mantleBOT
give us 3 minutes?
marsh gyro
Ogryn keeps winning
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> need more oggy in here
drowsy tusk
drowsy tusk
okay we might come back for more
do
split mantleBOT
we're hopping on now
tough compass
Three of us just got killed by the same barrel lmao
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> I've got time for 2-3 games, anyone down to join?
drowsy tusk
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> john the God Emperor wants you! 🫵
marsh gyro
Wahoo it's time to find more books for the grimperor
tough compass
I am making dinner, but after that I will be available
split mantleBOT
ugh we're all prepped for bed but we wanna hang out wiht ny'all
marsh gyro
Party over here
white portal
whaaat is the number you want on your weapons again?
it's been a while since I've played
marsh gyro
500 is the new 380
marsh gyro
The numbers all got converted to a new scale so if you had a 380 base it's now a 500
white portal
I cast explode
split mantleBOT
brahms straight up telling us nobody cares about our issues 😔
white portal
40k sure does have a core of nihilism
marsh gyro
brahms straight up telling us nobody cares about our issues 😔
It might be Brahms's ship and we're still blasting folks for ourselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKVtdB0RpZI
foggy latch
tough compass
whaaat is the number you want on your weapons again?
You can upgrade weapon power rating now. So max stats are more important than power level when buying a weapon (though higher base level makes it cheaper to max of course)
plain pendant
gogy post
foggy latch
Kiki often comes over to me whilst we play and thus she is an honorary darktide role member
and her cute moments are topic relevent
marsh gyro
Melk sells super rating weapons now so you can't go wrong with melkbux now except for Melk gacha
white portal
None of these words are in the bible
heavy geyser
It's right there in the Lex Melkbucklium.
tough compass
I feel like they should increase the cost of the melk gacha and have it instead give items he would normally give you
If they are to have a gatcha
tough compass
But you need decent master from what I've seen
400+ with some decent blessings seems fine now then tbh
(for damnation)
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> once again I am asking for your darkest of tides
tough compass
I'll be on shortly
west mantle
eta on shortly?
tough compass
Minutes
rocky dagger
7661864114\
heavy geyser
I found where Zola hangs out on the Mourningstar
spiral badger
yeah her and rannick are glaring down at you from above usually
heavy geyser
I got both Rannick and Zola
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> wowweee zowweee what if darktide was a real vidoe game awooga
heavy geyser
marsh gyro
Melk keeps winning because turns out to go from 300 to 500 from a Brunt gray weapon to a kitted out orange it's like 85000 dockets, 3k plasteel, and 1.5k diamantine so that's like 8 damnation runs of diamantine saved by buying a 500
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> party?
tough compass
Yes
west mantle
Melk just tried to give me 3 w/ no death and 16 scrips/grims. mucker
tough compass
I think this is actually a Grimoire:
plain pendant
bonk
tough compass
Fixed an issue where the Psyker ‘Kinetic Flayer’ talent incorrectly triggered on non-valid enemies.
Rejoice!
marsh gyro
Today's hotfix says some of the max item stats being off by 1% might actually be a thing needs fixing rather than visual, so if you have a 379 or 381 stat weapon maybe you might get a prize down the line from the Emperor!
On uncommon occasions when looking at a weapon card, the total value of the potential stats distribution shown might add up to 1% higher or lower than the maximum (380).
UPDATED: This is now known to not be a visual issue only. Rather, it involves different values being delivered by the backend than expected. This is being investigated.```
limpid zinc
yeah i have a few with four 80s and then a 61
brazen fossil
<@&1042950387478560878> anyone want to help me tidy up ?
spiral badger
praiise the omnissaih
blissful sparrow
oh interesting, ive been hunting these for completion's sake
wonder what the emprah will give to us (if he so chooses)
gentle flame
I don't think this makes sense for the lighting staff lol
Elaborate?
marsh gyro
Elaborate?
Tooltip says it's a boost in melee crit chance on a ranged weapon
gentle flame
Huh
Well, I can assure you that it very much does affect ranged
Calulated crit rate with a +5% Crit, Surge, Warp Nexus, Crit Aura, +5% Crit talen, scrier's gaze, with an 80% critical bonus comes out to +81% crit chance
Actual post mission data is 80% Crit chance (including non scrier's gaze / warp nexus boosted shots)
marsh gyro
Yeah the code backs it up, it affects just the left click and the charged attack
Crits are pretty huge for the lightning staff so it's nice to have good uptime on those orange numbers
heavy geyser
preserving my treasure in case they take it away
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for game(s)?
split mantleBOT
oh shit, was that you that pinged us? sorry, we were just getting some mod things figured out 
we were gonna get something to munch on, but we'll be back soon-ish?
drowsy vine
@marsh gyro are y'all full in there?
west mantle
<@214630836027260939> are y'all full in there?
nope!
drowsy vine
:0
marsh gyro
Yeah hop on in, we're just discussing neat weapon camouflages and blessings
drowsy vine
I gotta eat and such first but I'm interested
marsh gyro
We'll run a Hab Dreyko in the interim so enjoy the chow, we'll see you when we see you
drowsy vine
@marsh gyro I can join but no voice for today
Talkin TTRPG stuff with some other mates
marsh gyro
Nice, that owns
marsh gyro
Must've been yeah