...god I wish that revolver was better
#dark tidings (Darktide for people in the searchbar)
cloud hazel
you can kill enough already with trickshooter+handcannon IV and its uptime is atrocious if you want to chain stance
regal pendant
Yeah, sure, I can shoot stupidly fast with it, but like
Why bother shooting five lower damage bullets when I can shoot two or three massive damage ones
cloud hazel
so I spec mid-tree to get all the anti-major shit, then run some stacks of marksman's focus
regal pendant
Or just use a shotgun and knock whatever I'm blasting flat on their ass
cloud hazel
and that lets me drop anything I want in a mag pretty reliably
the main problem as with anything post-Scavenger nerf
is ammo
heavy geyser
bolter is really fun
My build went down middle branch for Sainted Gunslinger for fast reloads on a bolter build
When I played Darktide again I switched to shotgun so I didn't really need sainted gunslinger anymore
and routed through that +impact talent to get out of the middle branches
since I still really wanted "get 60% damage reduction for you and your friends if you ever get hit through toughness"
shotgun rules on zealot
drowsy vine
I run exe stance with a heavy autogun to cut down recoil and get those gunner two shots
The highlighting is also immensely useful
regal pendant
Y'all have any advice for making the Agrip revolver practical on Veteran?
cloud hazel
I can post my build when I get home but it's a pretty standard critmaxxer build
regal pendant
Is it any good on Zealot?
heavy geyser
the cowboy revolver is really cool but I'm not sure how to really make use of it good
spiral badger
it's ok on zealot but overall it's just not as good as normal revolver
heavy geyser
like what it Wants
cloud hazel
although actually post hand cannon nerfs I think the autoloader makes it pretty reasonable
heavy geyser
since ADS > headshot is so strong
why empty five bullets really fast into something
maybe it can proc Emperor's Bullet on demand
and you leverage that
but: an empty shotgun does this just as well
with more ammo efficiency
heavy geyser
It doesn't really have a clear niche
regal pendant
Even just "now has penetration" so it can at LEAST be decentish for CC
cloud hazel
it has penetration already
regal pendant
Does it?
cloud hazel
again, hand cannon + trickshooter IV
regal pendant
I thought it had absolutely nothing in the way of pen
cloud hazel
oh as in overpen
regal pendant
Or pencil
cloud hazel
I guess you could give it that but idk it seems perfectly usable for killing majors in my experience
regal pendant
hehehehehehehehehe
cloud hazel
even without the full-auto dump
regal pendant
Right
cloud hazel
you just need to build for it which is not difficult at all
heavy geyser
maybe you use it with the zealot charge to make it five rapid fire crits
regal pendant
...honestly might be best to just give up on the idea and keep using my Kantreal shotgun
cloud hazel
it has shockingly high accuracy as well
spiral badger
the big annoying thing on veteran is that the accuracy is not good at the "fucking sniper" ranges
cloud hazel
like 'shooting gunners in the head from across the bridge with the elevator'
spiral badger
it's surprisingly good up close
and if you hold ADS and crouch
it's decent
but it's unreliable
cloud hazel
it's one of the only guns in the game that can actually use that one ads = increased crit, reduced sway at the cost of stamina
without being a complete spew
spiral badger
the issue to me is that the fan bounces so hard it fails to trigger trickshooter
except against monsters
which is something it does really shine at in the right build
cloud hazel
I've had pretty good luck with it on crushers and bulwarks
ragers and maulers are harder but against those you're either not aiming for head or one crit kills anyway
heavy geyser
if you can find out how to m ake it work it probably feels Really Cool to use
cloud hazel
I will accept that I'm firmly in the minority in this one though because I played a lot of Last Word in destiny
working from hip with the recoil it does is Weird
spiral badger
ultimately I just find that if I'm going to run a revolver on vet
cloud hazel
and if you can't land crits you're kind of sunk
spiral badger
i'm going to run the normal one with weapon spec
heavy geyser
It really needs a sixth shot
spiral badger
and never reload anyway
heavy geyser
it ending at five feels incomplete
cloud hazel
a sixth shot would be tremendously funny
heavy geyser
getting all the way to yeeha and dropping the W
cloud hazel
yeehan't
spiral badger
like weapon spec used properly just removes the isssue with nnormal revolver
cloud hazel
ultimately it might just be a bad compromise between bolter and revolver but it feels so swish to dodge a crusher and then turn it into fruit punch
weapon spec on regular revolver is stellar synergy though that's undeniable
cloud hazel
you're John Darktide
regal pendant
Thanks Brunt
...god I hate how weapon stats work
Used to be it was all determined by one rating and that's it, just get a 300 rating weapon and you're golden
Now there's so many variables
heavy geyser
I think I am seeing a niche
regal pendant
What be it
heavy geyser
cutting a video real quick
with a shitty gun
kind of an interesting niche
I imagine with a proper damage fangun this might work
with hand cannon blessing too
heavy geyser
Just for like, "what does this gun do that the other doesn't?", its five really strong bullets in a short amount of time
so building around that, what if we stack whatever we can around the charge crit bonus
and just juice those five numbers up as much as possible
I was surprised it almost worked with a brunt junker
keeping the backup copy of charge would let you erase two crisis things in rapid succession
and sainted gunslinger makes the reload real fast
to do it again
you're rootin'. you're tootin'.
this is my prototype yeehaw build
thick rivet
Jokes on you, by the standards of California law that’s an explosive device
spiral badger
it was over in an instant, he'd made a fatal slip~
drowsy tusk
Holy shit
marsh gyro
The Mk XIV braced revolver has a very specific niche as the deleter of Unyielding and flak and unarmored mooks and so I run speedloader on all mine because uptime is what you want
Goes fantastic with a zealot crusher or thunder hammer or eviscerator that can handle crowds great and carapace great but are too slow for gunner swarms
Second blessing's a free space, I use surgical because lining up shots takes a second
Braced revolver is turbo good when stacking finesse damage on disrupt destiny psyker or on right side Veteran; left side veteran can make it work but wants way higher ROF to chain headshot stacks
regal pendant
...man
Why do our characters just lay there getting mauled by pox hounds
Like you'd think they'd at least punch it or something but no, they just lay there flailing around while their throat gets torn out
Weird
At any rate, what's the difference between the two power swords Veteran gets?
tough compass
Orgyns can push them off in certain circumstances iirc
marsh gyro
At any rate, what's the difference between the two power swords Veteran gets?
Attack angles and which moves are single target
Mk6 has a really nice single target push poke and horizontal lights, Mk3 has horizontal heavies and vertical lights
The most important thing is they do the exact same powered up damage between them (mk3 and mk6 lights match, heavies match) except the Mk6 special active push poke does like 15% more single target than the Mk3 which is more slashy
regal pendant
Right, right
heavy geyser
what are the use cases for the push pokes? Is it headshotting ogryn?
marsh gyro
Yeah you can mostly one shot a crusher at the right stats
heavy geyser
i never understood the pokes vs the sweeps
when sweep feels ideal for when you need to push
mmmm
marsh gyro
Yeah overall I like the Mk3 more than the Mk6 but the Mk6 sure is nice
heavy geyser
i understand
regal pendant
I feel like I'd be enjoying this more if the special ability didn't cut your speed in half while you're using it
Feels awkward as hell
Especially since I got lucky and got Power Cycler, but only the level 3 version so I still have to charge it up constantly
marsh gyro
You can actually build it to be pretty decent without the special, Wrath and Rampage / Slaughterer are good pickups
regal pendant
Yeah but it's objectively cooler to use the special
And I got that one blessing that gives said special extra cleave anyway so I may as well take advantage of that
It's not even a huge issue, it just feels really weird
Cause I can still dodge perfectly fine, it just feels so strange
cyan depot
Echoes from when the power sword was just a top 1 melee weapon
marsh gyro
And I got that one blessing that gives said special extra cleave anyway so I may...
Sunder is turbo good and you'll have a good time with it
regal pendant
Aye, I do find it quite enjoyable
Getting the hang of the Kantrael too
Turns out the shotgun is good and consistent when I use it like it's, you know, a fucking shotgun and not a battle rifle
heavy geyser
regal pendant
...still no sign of Flechette though, still trying to get that
brave kestrel
At any rate, what's the difference between the two power swords Veteran gets?
Along with what others have said I believe the mk6 has more defensive stats? Its basically a straight upgrade iirc
regal pendant
Makes sense
cloud hazel
the mk6 can cancel its charge into block giving you very lttle exposure to damage
as well as enabling the empowered charge -> block -> push stab chain
regal pendant
Oh yeah I did notice that, seems like really good tech to know
cloud hazel
if you have power cycler I genuinely don't think there's any reason whatsoever to run the III
I got the power cycler IV godroll and even with a bad damage value it can solo crusher hordes
it is disgustingly strong
regal pendant
...god
I'm really tempted to run shovel
If nothing else than because it's objectively the funniest weapon
Which I value highly
cloud hazel
shovel is hugely funny if you can run a good AP weapon alongside it
great handling and tremendous amounts of stagger
drowsy vine
The folding shovels can also one shot Crushers with the right setup
cloud hazel
thrust IV and something else right
cloud hazel
probably
marsh gyro
Can also do it with Limbsplitter and Thrust blessing if you don't have Uncanny
austere wadi
If nothing else than because it's objectively the funniest weapon
Ah yes the classic Kriegsmen weapon.
regal pendant
...
I
Accidentally sold my power sword
The one with Power Cycler and Sunder
I am in indescribable agony
marsh gyro
Ouch - Luckily you can rebless a new one up and it'll even probably have better stats
regal pendant
Oh hey, Krieg cosmetics are back, nice
regal pendant
What a lovely coat
distant surge
logan paul
regal pendant
...ugh
I need to figure out anti rager shit for my psyker
I can beat em down with my sword quickly enough, but when there's three focusing me down alongside a massive horde it becomes an issue
...should prolly run lightning instead of shards...
drowsy tusk
Darts can 1 tap ragers
regal pendant
Oh, can they?
cyan depot
Block them out and get help if multiple ragers get into melee with you
regal pendant
Haven't tried, I figured they'd deal pretty piss poor damage
cyan depot
You're too squishy to trade with them
IIRC you need crit/damage amped right mouse button darts
regal pendant
Yeah, even with that 33% toughness DR
cyan depot
But they also cut them up ok with spam
regal pendant
...weirdly enough the armored ones are easier to deal with than the unarmored ones
Idk why
drowsy tusk
Yea darts either kill em or soften them up enough that melee is easier
cyan depot
and a lot of weapons are bad vs maniac
regal pendant
Ah, I see
drowsy tusk
It’s one of my go to traits
cyan depot
force swords have very good maniac damage but that doesn't work well when 3 of them get on you
regal pendant
...honestly I should probably run a different force staff too, the lightning one isn't bad but it ramps up peril stupid fast and takes too long to charge up
cyan depot
That's probably a stat issue more than a weapon type issue
regal pendant
Which would be good for my build, if I couldn't just stroke my sword a few times and get up to 90% peril more quickly
regal pendant
That's probably a stat issue more than a weapon type issue
Yeah, true
Should buy myself a new one sometime
opaque crown
i think the single weapon i struggle with mot is prolly the shreder auto
i do enjoy it's smg vibes
mortal crystal
New Mission: explore a derelict Mechanicus research station in Atelium Foundryplex Omega V.
New Weapons: introducing the iconic Bolt Pistol, Ogryn’s first two-handed weapons, the Pickaxes, Shockmauls and a new double-barrelled Shotgun.
regal pendant
Yeah it 100% was bad stats
regal pendant
> New Mission: explore a derelict Mechanicus research station in Atelium Foundry...
NEW SHOTGUN???
mortal crystal
It's a fucking DOUBLE BARREL
TIME FOR FULL DOOM GUY
Also, Ogryn two hander is definitely going to be welcomed and the bolt pistol!
regal pendant
Hopefully it'll feel nicer than my Kantrael
I do love it but a double barrel is much more appealing to me
Willing to bet the special is firing both barrels at once
marsh gyro
I can beat em down with my sword quickly enough, but when there's three focusing...
Which sword are you using because force sword push can ragdoll them and duelist sword special poke will stun them
regal pendant
Blaze force sword
marsh gyro
They're all Blaze force swords - is it the Deimos, Obscurus or Illisi? Deimos can light into heavy to two tap them
regal pendant
Illisi, sorry
marsh gyro
With the Illisi you'll have to chain special attacks while dodging backwards; lightning staff is a good play too; I like Brain Burst
The Illisi special has about 11 cleave and ragers count for 4 so you can hit 3 per swoop
Here's a image of what actually is going on with the week long special event, it shows up in the tab menu you can cycle through for penances and contracts
regal pendant
Good time to get a shitload of materials
Easy as hell too, just headshot kill dudes
And it counts for everyone on your team, if someone else headshot kills something it'll count towards your own progress
Which is a really nice touch
cyan depot
Here's a image of what actually is going on with the week long special event, it...
Is this live now?
cyan depot
neat
marsh gyro
Is this live now?
Yeah this was today's patch and after about one normal threat 5 mission of progress without knowing what it was so it's probably about 25 missions of normal play to fill out the tracker
regal pendant
With the Illisi you'll have to chain special attacks while dodging backwards; li...
I would use brain burst, but I prefer having something to clear out huge hordes
opaque crown
I find myself liking the illisi because I don't get stuck on anything
marsh gyro
I would use brain burst, but I prefer having something to clear out huge hordes
Yeah that's the Illisi special - each swoopy special hits 8 groaners or 7 poxwalkers
regal pendant
True, but I find the shards horde clear in a way that can give me some breathing room
Cause I can mow down a bunch of groaners and walkers by chucking a few rocks at em
...should see if I have room for the augment that lets them pierce more...
marsh gyro
Oh yeah Assail really picks up when you have both the nodes
marsh gyro
In today's discovery of "Things that shouldn't be happening and I'll take it," we have left side Veteran finesse stacks buffing stabs with the Helbore bayonet, which isn't the most useful but it's really funny
e: Further testing shows it turns out what's going on is the helbore mk1 and mk2 bayonets have two stab states, one when you click the button and one when you charge it up all the way and the charged stab does 15% more damage
spiral badger
had a real goofy glitchh today
cloud hazel
augh
brave kestrel
how do people utilise marksman's focus? It feels like precise weapons that could make use of its bonuses tend to not be able to build stacks fast enough for it to be useful in a given fight (though this might be a skill issue)
cyan depot
I use a headhunter autogun and crouch-walk a lot
marsh gyro
how do people utilise marksman's focus? It feels like precise weapons that could...
For slow ROF weapons, use the "gain stacks while still" node, for fast ROF stuff, use the 15 stacks
Bolter, Helbore Mk2, Agripinaa and Kantrael shotguns, autopistol/laspistol are great for the still stacks, infantry autos, recon lasguns, braced autos are good for 15 stacks for horde clear
dawn totem
Those moments when you use Marksmen's Focus on the bridge when the fog rolls in and become a ranged specialist deletion machine.
sacred pagoda
I literally just got the game last night, how soon do I get to wear something other than my prison pants?
cyan depot
Level 5 ish I think
There’s way more cosmetics now and more ways to unlock them so I’m not sure
marsh gyro
I literally just got the game last night, how soon do I get to wear something ot...
If you got the Imperial Edition of the game it comes with nice exclusive outfits and if you got the base game then the funbux ordo dockets you get by doing normal missions can be converted to pants at a vendor on the left side of the hub
sacred pagoda
I’m fighting Nurgle I would really like some good boots, some gloves and some goggles. The PPE standards in the Imperium of Man are atrocious.
I’m going to get ultra-tetanus.
marsh gyro
I’m going to get ultra-tetanus.
There's actually dialogue about this in the missions where they send you to handle cans of plague
sacred pagoda
Double gingivitis.
sacred pagoda
This is why my veteran has the backstory of insubordination. He’s concerned with occupational health and safety and spoke up about it.
marsh gyro
Trip report from finally equipping Loner aura to try to get the "Behind Enemy Lines" penance for backstabbing ranged dudes
- this is really slow going even with Shroudfield
- toughness regen doesn't happen until you stop getting shot so the fake coherency goggles, they do nothing
- Mk6 Catachan Knife with the 100% rending on backstab blessing can one shot maulers, crushers, and reapers with super finesse Shroudfield
3a) good luck doing this in big crowds
twilit cradle
<@&1042950387478560878>
split mantleBOT
we want to kill people
cyan depot
I’m down but need about 20-30 mins
marsh gyro
Yeah I'll be ready in about five minutes
marsh gyro
Dang Psyker Smite is a useful complement to Surge Staff / Illisi Sword
cyan depot
Oh yeah that's a great feeling outfit
regal pendant
Dang Psyker Smite is a useful complement to Surge Staff / Illisi Sword
Man's got lightning for days
sacred pagoda
I finally look normal.
cyan depot
Got that normal soldier drip
sacred pagoda
I look like a totally generic veteran Guardsman, which is what I wanted.
tough compass
Every guardsman dreams of being a totally generic veteran (otherwise they are dead and/or something terrible has happened to them)
sacred pagoda
Maybe I'll get something to eat that isn't a dubious ration bar!
austere wadi
Nah, this week you get Corpse Starch.
sacred pagoda
Aw beans.
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> darq tied
sacred pagoda
I'm definitely not high-level enough to help.
drowsy tusk
nah its all good im happy to help carry on lower diff missions
split mantleBOT
we're just doing ksp rn but we'd be happy to help level people
fluid jungle
Ya I don't mind helping the Lil uns
drowsy tusk
1404842197
sacred pagoda
As an aside, my wife has asked me to take care of the grocery shopping, then I have my Star Wars Age of Rebellion game later, but I should be free later tonight.
drowsy tusk
cyan depot
Always thought that was a weirdly verbose name
distant surge
i love ogryns
sacred pagoda
Every Ogryn I've had on my team has been just delightful.
They really get into it.
sacred pagoda
Oh, and this is my number.
3072011827
cyan depot
<@&1042950387478560878> anyone free rn?
marsh gyro
Yeah I can be on in 5
Edit: d'oh too optimistic
sacred pagoda
I'm on, but I'm a babby.
cyan depot
My steam is booting slowly I'll friend you when it finishes
cyan depot
Oh, and this is my number.
3072011827
Is this a steam friend code or a darktide one?
(nvm it was Darktide)
austere wadi
3492094283
marsh gyro
@cyan depot whoops had a phone call come up and am unable to join, will be around tomorrow
cyan depot
nw
sacred pagoda
I thought Kriegers only came in packs of like a hundred.
sacred pagoda
Also this lasgun pattern whips.
brave kestrel
I quite enjoy it with kantrael mg or mk7 lasguns. Nice gunner popping potential and other special clearing
drowsy vine
The enemy wallhacks/highlighting is crazy good
marsh gyro
Daisy chaining a stance into another stance is the juice
sacred pagoda
I love the chain axe.
hushed glade
Accatran Executioner's Stance Flaming Ammo my beloved
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> play darktide
distant surge
this worth?
drowsy tusk
low cleave a bit dissapojnt but otherwise looks sick give it a try
sacred pagoda
I tried out a bolter earlier. It was a lot of fun, but I think it's so ammo-hungry that it made me a little too selfish for my liking.
soft summit
My main issue with the bolter is the handling
sacred pagoda
I always felt like a damp street urchin going around like "Please, please I'm so hungry. A scrap of ammo, please."
brave kestrel
It is very very ammo hungry
The handling yeah is also atrocious
sacred pagoda
I feel like that's... understandable.
brave kestrel
That said it does feel like a bolter
cyan depot
I find the bolter hard to justify now with the nerf to scavenger
sacred pagoda
It's CHONKY.
cyan depot
Way too hard to keep fed and other weapons can match it offensively
sacred pagoda
I went back to my lasgun afterwards, but it was fun to use.
cyan depot
Albeit not quite as well but most of them are not as unwieldy
sacred pagoda
It's a really clumsy weapon, but I kinda used it like a shotgun and it sort of worked.
I had fun with it, but I don't think I'll be using it again.
drowsy vine
Ol' Bolty needs buffs for sure
marsh gyro
All they gotta do is make its crit damage the not crit damage and then the new crit damage will be to the moon
marsh gyro
The subtle way they can do that is by buffing its cleave, it only goes through 3 hit mass which is 2 non-Elite mooks and can't get past 1 rager (who has 4) - Zarona revolver has 6.5 cleave by comparison
cyan depot
Bolter shouldn’t really be a big cleave weapon though, since the bolts explode nearly on impact
But another 30 rounds would basically make up for the scavenger nerf I think
marsh gyro
It'll definitely help Zealot who doesn't have the Veteran 25% ammo node
sacred pagoda
I assumed the bolter's niche was ranged anti-armor work.
Punching through carapace armor.
cyan depot
With the right perks and such a lot of weapons can do it
The bolter is pretty good for carapace at short range
Particularly with the perk which adds brittleness
I think you can kill 3 crushers with a mag with that setup?
cloud hazel
sounds about right ime
heavy geyser
it is my belief that the bolter is a zealot gun
sacred pagoda
I use a semiauto lasgun because I didn’t get a game where I’m a Guardsman to not use a lasgun.
Also I like how it punches through chaff and kills a whole bunch with one shot.
marsh gyro
Also I like how it punches through chaff and kills a whole bunch with one shot.
The Helbores punch through even more!
sacred pagoda
And they have a bayonet, so I may just go for one.
fluid jungle
I like them but they can be awkward to use at times with charging up
Def takes practice
sacred pagoda
Ehhhhh, I don't generally like weapons with charge time.
But I'll still give it a shot. I kind of wish there was an option to pick either a bayonet or flashlight for lasguns.
That said I am loving the chain axe.
I didn't think I'd like it that much but it's so satisfying.
distant surge
excuse me, what should i change for this?
marsh gyro
Grab Flak damage instead of Stamina and Hammerblow or Shred or Rampage or a cleave blessing instead of Vicious Slice
sacred pagoda
Speaking of, any recommendations for perks on a chain axe?
cloud hazel
unironically run the bolter
cloud hazel
it is horrendously ammo inefficient with the scavenger nerfs
and it shoots trucks
it's difficult to miss with, you will go through most of your ammo as a natural result of play and you'll probably also be shooting huge targets anyway
heavy geyser
Speaking of, any recommendations for perks on a chain axe?
rev it up is a lot of fun and thunderous plays up its strengths well
cloud hazel
like crushers or bulwarks
marsh gyro
Or just each shot kills something
Each shot has to generate a hit marker - no shooting corpses, no shooting bulwark shields
Easy to do with a shotgun emptying into a Crusher
sacred pagoda
hahahahaha holy shit
cloud hazel
it's like he's trying to hold a crayon
drowsy tusk
Have you seen the inspect animation for that yet?
sacred pagoda
Sure. I'm still pretty tiny though.
cyan depot
<@&1042950387478560878> 👀
I'm down!
drowsy vine
Sweet
sacred pagoda
What do I post so you guys can find me?
cyan depot
either steam friend code or the darktide social code
sacred pagoda
3072011827
cyan depot
Is that steam or darktide?
sacred pagoda
Darktide
marsh gyro
They added 2 more Tiers to the event and extended it a week, 3500 plasteel and 2500 diamantine at 10000 and 11000 skulls busted respectively
edit: It's retroactive too if you already busted enough skulls, they give it to you on login
brave kestrel
I’m literally never going to need diamantine again lmao
Meanwhile already burnt through the plasteel
distant surge
why is that man half naked
he had a full speed build
also 
i was wondering if i should change the close range kill damage or not, considering this shotgun can kill from further away
i have no respite on me, it's only lvl 3 how is that for replacing fire frenzy?
marsh gyro
Fire Frenzy is really good because enemies come to you
I'd actually keep the blessings and put perks to Flak and Unyielding
distant surge
I see
hushed glade
why is that man half naked
SO YOU LIKE TO PLAY CASTLEVANIA
distant surge
slender shell
wait the shirtless bug is back?
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> yooooooooooooo darktide
drowsy tusk
marsh gyro
Extra rations all around
drowsy tusk
marsh gyro
It turns out Bloodthirsty (100% crit on special kill) Chain Axe is pretty solid in actual play because it's not hard to get it to the breakpoint to 100%-0% Maulers and Crushers on heavy attack
toxic sail
I did it and all I got was like 10 achievement points
cool
90 hours of mostly playing with pugs has infested my brain
i can't do this anymore
i can't clear new content because pugs will always be halfway through the mission and about to die
drowsy vine
Play with us
toxic sail
i have no clue what the new stories are 👍
they seem better than the nothing sandwich of base game but fuck if i know whats going on cause i have not played the first half of any of them
toxic sail
Play with us
who is us
drowsy vine
The darktide chat here in general, we have a pingable role you can join and everything
@ Darktide Rejects
toxic sail
90 hours
toxic sail
The darktide chat here in general, we have a pingable role you can join and ever...
I have it
drowsy vine
Coolio
toxic sail
idk when this broke but it's still broken
I've seen a few others like this during my time but didn't think to screenshot until this happened today/yesterday forget
drowsy vine
<@&1042950387478560878> the darktiderrrr
opaque crown
I'm revisiting the head hunter, building a good vraks mk3 in the hopes that critmaxxing is the way
split mantleBOT
@brazen fossil probably no darktide, need to stay late today
brazen fossil
Tis fine
regal pendant
Ugh
I've had Warp Traveller stuck in my head for the last two days
It's a good song though, I don't mind it too much
drowsy vine
he slapp
sacred pagoda
rok
brazen fossil
Auric 5 with the shield build is easy tho
And also every single time I take the shield everyone is also running a melee build lol 😄
marsh gyro
I should try doing auric 5 with my gun build 🤔
The secret is the fire bullets
regal pendant
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-darktide-o...
Almost as good as the walking gif
split mantleBOT
<@&1042950387478560878> we want to kill people (in like 30 minutes)
we are going to Get Silly With It
marsh gyro
Yeah 30 minutes should be good
heavy geyser
Is it just me or have they been power-cycling the shop lately?
slender shell
The two types of Darktide characters
the third is three letter name Ogryns
marsh gyro
It's been like one outfit every 2 weeks which sounds like usual
heavy geyser
They brought back two more outfits and just cycled a third one in
regal pendant
Zealot gaming
regal pendant
Goddddddddddd this armor is SO fucking cool
I do wish it was a smidge more armored up on the arms but eh
drowsy vine
Oh shit so it is
cloud hazel
you obviously answered that question in the lore/modelling lol
cyan depot
where is this from
It’s one of the cash shop zealot armors
regal pendant
How do I use the Ironhelm hammer properly?
I want to enjoy it, it's big and loud and makes my monke brain go heehoo, but it feels so fucking slow
marsh gyro
Yeah attack speed buffs like middle or bottom right tree help a bunch as do blessings for more power
marsh gyro
The Ironhelm has really good sweep heavies on the first two heavies and a single target bonk on the third so it's not out of the ordinary to just heavy all day
regal pendant
...is it just me, or are there like
WAY more "here's a fucktillion specialists/elites" missions lately
marsh gyro
Are you queueing into Shock Gauntlets or are you open palm slamming Maelstroms because Maelstroms have a very good chance to be a Shock Gauntlet base
regal pendant
Nah, just quickplaying regular heresy missions
I keep running into High Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlets
It's fucking awful
Did get to 9700ish heads collected for the event though, so silver linings and all that
marsh gyro
Oh yeah when you QuickPlay it chooses from one of the available missions on the board and right now one of them's a shock troop gauntlet, the other 2 are high intensity, and one's normal, so that's 3/4 chance of spice - might be better to forgo the 10% reward if you're just wanting the regular mission
regal pendant
Yeah I think I ought to take a break a while, wait until there's less bullshit on the table
God I hate High Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet
I try to do anything and bam, like fifty specialists spawned and a horde too
marsh gyro
Good news is if you can handle high intensity 4 you can definitely handle a normal 5 so that can be a change of pace too
regal pendant
I can mostly handle it tbf
It's just when everyone else inevitably gets downed and I'm left alone against Fuck You amounts of elites/specials and a horde that shit gets dicey
Got hit with a chaos spawn, a few flamers, some poxbursters, and a horde once, no idea how I survived that bullshit
Thank god for the revolver, helped melt down the spawn
fluid jungle
<@&1042950387478560878> Anyone wanna kill some heretics
regal pendant
...oh my god I fucking adore the Kantrael
That shit just clutched me a game
Gigantic horde spawned during a boss, ended up blowing them away with a couple well placed shots
Maybe I should try out that one that makes your spread a flatter line, I do tend to use these shotguns for horde clear as well as anti big boy buttons...
marsh gyro
Lawbringer's pretty cool
marsh gyro
To be fair the Kantrael MkXII is still pretty sweet it just needs a little left or middle tree Veteran damage to one tap a lot of things
heavy geyser
kantrael shotgun is the chonkiest of the three
I'm excited to try out a double barrel in the coming update
cyan depot
To be fair the Kantrael MkXII is still pretty sweet it just needs a little left ...
Yeah it totally made sense the kantrael lasguns are build dependent but goated
heavy geyser
I've been trying to get a good kantrael laspistol to try
cyan depot
Is that the green or brown laspistol?
drowsy vine
Brown
brave kestrel
I need to pick up my kantrael xii again at some point. I’ve been revolver pilled for so long
regal pendant
I'm excited to try out a double barrel in the coming update
Same
I'm guessing it's gonna be a single target melter super shotgun
marsh gyro
If it's a Kickback style punch but two kicks I'm super down
mortal crystal
I need to pick up my kantrael xii again at some point. I’ve been revolver pilled...
I gotta pull out my MK1 Hellbore again as well
heavy geyser
I hope it has lots of blowthrough and big damage, even bigger than an kantrael!
mortal crystal
When I was actively playing I could nail some shots with that thing
heavy geyser
What I'm really looking forward to is proccing "the emperor's bullet" over and over again.
regal pendant
I hope it has lots of blowthrough and big damage, even bigger than an kantrael!
Ditto
I 100% know the special fire is gonna be unloading both barrels at once for GIGANTIC damage
heavy geyser
Imagine if it can't have an Ammo stat if it's just a two-barrel, so it has another damage stat
brave kestrel
Might be reload speed like the revolvers
regal pendant
I'm imagining it follows the same basic design as the other combat shotguns, but break action with two over-under barrels
marsh gyro
Looking forward to using it on Veteran with the "First 10% of magazine has 10% more critical hit chance" node
regal pendant
Yeah the top one is two Ogryn cannons glued together
regal pendant
Ngl an over-under would've been cooler than a side-by-side
Mostly because over-unders aren't really as common a design for some reason
heavy geyser
It is the less-appreciated configuration
regal pendant
Aye
drowsy tusk
Mostly because over-unders aren't really as common a design for some reason
much more complex mechanically means it was developed later and is more expensive to buy gennearlly
regal pendant
True, but I meant in video games and fiction specifically, not irl
Sorry, should've specified
regal pendant
Managed to complete the event
11000 heads is... surprisingly not a hard number to reach
I appreciate they didn't do any FOMO bullshit with it, just a quick, easy way to get materials
...besides the krieg cosmetics being kinda FOMO but eh
sacred pagoda
If they ever put in Valhallan uniforms, I'll probably spring for that.
marsh gyro
That's enough damage you can one shot lots of stuff
split mantleBOT
we were literally about to go out and get lunch
are you gonna be around in like an hour?
@drowsy tusk
drowsy tusk
prolly yea
split mantleBOT
<@&1042950387478560878>
drowsy tusk
holy shit bane darktide
split mantleBOT
heavy geyser
is that a mod that shows weapons on your back?
cyan depot
yes
vapid arrow
5349916002
fluid jungle
1403137641
drowsy tusk
sacred pagoda
Neat.
regal pendant
Is it me or are there more missions with special conditions in the pool lately
Feels like I'm running into more Shock Trooper Gauntlets and Hunting Grounds than I usually do
Tbh it isn't a huge deal, since I can just pop napalm on Hunting Grounds when the hounds are released and burn em, and shock trooper gauntlet is rarely unplayable, it's just
Weird
High Intensity Shock Trooper Gauntlet is pretty unplayable though
But that's neither here nor there
marsh gyro
It's about a 50% chance of a special condition and there's like 5 special conditions and the lights out / vent purge are more likely on Auric so if doing regular quickplay then it'll be mostly puppies and shock troop gauntlet since pox gas is less common
drowsy vine
<@&1042950387478560878> tidedark?
drowsy vine
brazen fossil
Void strike gameplay
split mantleBOT
it got hit with a nerf a while back, we just have ours kitted out really well
we'd have to open up darktide again to check but we have the +damage w/ perils and clear perils on weak spot hit
so we can just kind of throw orbs at head height through a horde constantly
regal pendant
I should try Voidstrike sometime
drowsy vine
It's objectively the best all-rounder staff
If you get a really well rolled one
Other staves perform better in certain areas but Voidstrike does well in all of them
brazen fossil
I'm really partial to the lightning staff
cloud hazel
surge sure is the perk of all time
brazen fossil
It sure is
marsh gyro
What's nice about voidstrike staff is it goes boom
What could be better about voidstrike is it could go boom as big as Ogryn frag bomb, but alas
drowsy tusk
I have a max radius/charge time trauma staff
It’s almost that much boom but nowhere near the damage
regal pendant
Man
The Mk. XIV revolver might not be very good
But DAMN is it ever stylish
This shit feels GREAT
Mauler pulls up, whip out my big iron and BAMBAMBAMBAMBAM, now I'm one Mauler short
cyan depot
Twitter
They need to give us a little cherub which holds reloads
This is the buff the bolter needs
split mantleBOT
<@&1042950387478560878> hello, tidetide?
marsh gyro
I'll be around for tide in half an hour
split mantleBOT
oh yea, the staff
drowsy vine
oh that's real good
sacred pagoda
What are some good Blessings for the Kantrael lasguns?
drowsy vine
What are some good Blessings for the Kantrael lasguns?
Headhunter/Deadly Accurate for General Murdering, replace Deadly with Ghost if you're looking to mow down ranged units with sheer efficiency
marsh gyro
No Respite and Falter if you don't think you'll crit is a sleeper general damage combo
Deadly Accurate is a huge difference in output if you do crit though
sacred pagoda
I’m okay with headshots but not super great.
sacred pagoda
No Respite and Falter if you don't think you'll crit is a sleeper general damage...
What do those do?
marsh gyro
What do those do?
Up to 20% bonus damage on staggered enemies for No Respite and "Ignore 90% of stagger resist on weak spot hit" for Falter - if you tag a rager you'll stagger it more reliably
regal pendant
Got some REAL good stats on this hammer, thanks Brunt
Defense is... Not Great
But who gives a shit
Momentum 2 isn't great either, but only because it's only level 2
sacred pagoda
Up to 20% bonus damage on staggered enemies for No Respite and "Ignore 90% of st...
Interesting. Good to know.
I have a chain axe with a Blessing that adds a stack (up to 5) of extra damage on each kill that’s been pretty helpful for killing armored enemies.
regal pendant
I just shotgun armored enemies lmao
My Kantrael is... weirdly good at putting down flak armored enemies
I can three-tap a Mauler with bodyshots on Heresy
sacred pagoda
I like to rev the chain axe and then hit a carapace enemy with it. It kills shockingly fast.
regal pendant
Yeah chain weapons SHRED carapace, don't they?
sacred pagoda
They do. You’d think that would be what a power sword would be for.
regal pendant
It's fun just walking up to a Crusher and going "fuck you"
Though it's also fun hitting them with the Ultimate Bonk from a thunder hammer
sacred pagoda
During one game a little while ago, all my team heard was me saying “That’s it, I’m going down there.” Punctuated by the sound of a chain axe revving up and then a kill confirm on a Beast of Nurgle.
regal pendant
Lmao
sacred pagoda
I was annoyed with it so I decided to go do something about it.
I think that the fact that I’ve purposefully made my Veteran look like the most generic Imperial Guardsman possible only enhances the comedy factor.
drowsy vine
Chain weapons are...okay against carapace at higher levels
But a power sword can two shot a Crusher
It's definitely better into carapace
sacred pagoda
Yes, but then you don’t get the visceral feeling that comes with ripping through them with a shower of sparks and blood.
drowsy vine
True enough
marsh gyro
Bloodthirsty 4 blessing (100% critical chance after special attack kill) can daisy chain Crushers if you tag the weak spot with a revved heavy though in practice it's tough with all the explosions and screaming
Power Sword with Wrath blessing or Sunder blessing can cleave 6 crushers though 1 Guardsperson vs 6 crushers at once is 40k art worthy
regal pendant
...god I wish this game spawned less gunners
Got an entire clutch ruined because apparently the AI director decided 3 gunners on top of a horde and a plague ogryn after everyone else had been downed was a great idea
They're not even hard to deal with, it's just you try to do anything else, RATATATATATATATATATA and there goes your Toughness and you now can't move for... reasons
Ugh
Might've clutched if I had my revolver ngl, Kantrael really does suffer shooting shit farther than a few meters away
Which I mean it's a shotgun, naturally it would
regal pendant
Anyway. Y'all got any advice for using Smite?
Dunno what I'm doing wrong but it doesn't feel like it's stunning as many enemies as it should, cause I've seen Smite psykers stunlock entire hordes before but I can't get nearly that many
Is it just a positioning thing?
cloud hazel
are you doing full charge zap
cloud hazel
ahahahaha
there you go then
yeah hold right click and then left click once the meter's full, you'll start seeing the results pretty quickly
I have basically never used tap zap
regal pendant
Aw yup, that was my issue
regal pendant
...builds up Peril like mad, though, Jesus
Any way to mitigate that?
Beyond general Peril reduction, I gotta be able to generate a lot for this weird melee build
cloud hazel
not really it would be pretty crazy if it didn't generate so much
it's very good for redlining builds since iirc you can hold right click indefinitely to build as much peril as you want
cloud hazel
yes the forced stop is extremely useful for similar reasons
quiet escarp
It is also important to realize that it's a CC thing with some damage as a garnish rather than a damage option, even with enhanced psionics. It's great for making a horde stop so your buddies can kill ragers, maulers, or specials mixed in or for stopping packs of maulers and crushers. Most of the time against hordes though it's better to just start chopping and blasting rather than trying to zorch all of them with lightning
cloud hazel
a horde of weak mooks is basically a non-problem for any competent team, for sure you should save it for the "900 specials at once" trick that the game likes to pull
regal pendant
God, yeah
...this a good roll or no?
Unsure if that small cloud radius actually affects a whole lot
cyan depot
It DOES stop and immediately vent some Peril when it hits 100%, that's nice
Worth noting that it has a very strong stagger when you end it voluntarily
regal pendant
Aye, found that out
cyan depot
Another good trick with it is that it force staggers and then detonates poxbursters
It’s an extremely safe way to stop them
regal pendant
I do run force sword, so I already have that shove to knock em away
cyan depot
Yeah that’s also good, the lightning is just really good because the range is long and you don’t have to worry about trigger happy teammates blowing up the burster when you go for the shove
regal pendant
True
regal pendant
Oh, is it worth taking the perk that makes it chain one more time or does that not really do a lot?
marsh gyro
Yeah you can skip the 10% damage buff one if you're tight on points but the extra chaining is super key for locking down big packs
regal pendant
...this game's AI director is such a piece of shit
Yeah just send five fucking maulers to hyperfixate on the psyker
cyan depot
wow the absolute goon squad
cyan depot
I'd just mess with the perks that's a very good gun
brazen fossil
yeah both of these are very good
regal pendant
...I think something's up with special/elite spawn rates
Swear to god I keep running into Shock Troop Gauntlet amounts of both even in missions that don't have that modifier
Like, just now, we kept getting hit with 3-4 bursters at once in a high intensity pox gas mission
Something's bugged about these spawn rates
Like, it's always been kind of awful, but it's never been this bad
cyan depot
Darktide is buggy so anything's possible but there are confounding factors
Though I think pox gas ups burster rates
regal pendant
On the bright side, I think I'm getting the hang of Smite
...though to be honest, I think I kinda prefer Assail
cyan depot
Yeah those are pretty competitive
I personally prefer smite because it gives me more potential to save bad situations
regal pendant
Assail feels more indepedent, smite just feels more like you have to wait for someone else to deal with whatever the problem is
...though Smiting those five fucking maulers earlier might've saved my ass
I'm still pissed about at ngl
cyan depot
Yeah assail is more independent and gives crazy horde and medium clear
headpop is pretty niche comparitively and is somehow still buggy feeling
regal pendant
I'd use headpop but it feels like it takes too long to charge up
brazen fossil
headpop with a sniper banshee build goes hard
cyan depot
I tend to use it with fire builds
regal pendant
Gonna stick with Smite a while longer
See if I can't get to liking it more
Cause I think I do, but I'm still kinda undecided
cyan depot
if you run all the % damage you can get and have 6 warp charges you can wipe hordes with smite pretty excellently
regal pendant
Eh, I'm a melee psyker, I can just smack em with my sword
cyan depot
Yeah some of the swords are great for horde clear
Though I think for a melee psyker you'll probably get more value with assail
regal pendant
True, but Smite stunlocking the inevitable shitload of elites/specials the AI director seems to love also seems valuable
Give me some room to breathe
regal pendant
...god why is the alert for hitting 100% peril so fucking LOUD lmao
"Charge sword, charge sword, Smite, charge sword, charge stave, charge-"
UNEARTHLY HOWLING SCREAM
heavy geyser
thats the warp for you
regal pendant
Warp could learn to use an inside voice >:(
Oh, only 10 hours left to get Krieg/Rogue Trader cosmetics
If you've been on the fence about getting them now's the time to decide
brazen fossil
If you've been on the fence about getting them now's the time to decide
yknow they rotate
they will be back
drowsy tusk
oooooooo
brazen fossil
Nice
drowsy tusk
regal pendant
GOD I fucking love the Kantrael shotgun
Clutched a game with that shit
Shitload of Ragers? Fuck outta here, 12 gauge to the chest.
heavy geyser
marsh gyro
tho I use the autocast on it
Free damage estate
You gotta bring your own hits but the brain bursts are free
I recommend Enhanced Psionics Brain Burst with Purgatus staff and a free space on the melee weapon because chain popping elite packs at eyesight range is super clutch
split mantleBOT
<@&1042950387478560878> the tiderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
fluid jungle
I'll join in a bit
marsh gyro
I'll be on shortly
split mantleBOT
regal pendant
<@&1042950387478560878> the tiderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I'd like to join in
Just lemme know when y'all are on
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH STEAM WENT DOWN AGAIN
Man >:(
split mantleBOT
@regal pendant @fluid jungle when do you think you'll be on?
fluid jungle
I'm getting on rn
regal pendant
Hopping on now @twilit cradle
split mantleBOT
1653200957
regal pendant
Request sent
regal pendant
1118288629
toxic sail
whats everyone up to
split mantleBOT
wait it says that code isn't good
marsh gyro
Darktide: the game of the novel of the game
split mantleBOT
OH NO
regal pendant
SYL
split mantleBOT
no that's the fatshark code
toxic sail
Darktide: the game of the novel of the game
no i know
marsh gyro
Today's feeling like a Bolter day
toxic sail
i could go for darktide maybe but i dont talk here much 😭
split mantleBOT
@toxic sail we have a spot open if you want!
toxic sail
im ok 4 now thank u
regal pendant
...that was
Legitimately the worst time I have had in a while
Just period
Can't see shit, can't hear shit either because the game shat itself and cut audio, nonstop enemies
I'm not touching Damnation again
I do apologize for not being on my A Game there
gentle flame
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> dardddddd tid
regal pendant
...question
What's the point of the Vraks Mk. 7?
Cause like
It doesn't seem great for horde clear, and if I need to pick off specialists and shit why not just get a revolver?
cloud hazel
not having 5 bullets for starters
regal pendant
...true
cyan depot
Much deeper mag, better optic, better sustained damage
Also really good at clearing lots of shooters and mids
cloud hazel
better on vet for sure
cyan depot
(Better optic is funny to say since they're both anus)
Actually that's too much praise a ring sight would be better
regal pendant
I see
cyan depot
But the Vraks 7 at least zooms in a bunch
cyan depot
better on vet for sure
It's a really good vet gun with the sharpshooter tree yeah
Kills literally everything fast except daemonhosts, and that's just because they're tricky to consistently headshot
marsh gyro
Vraks Mk7 with Deadly Accurate pushes out Bolter amounts of hurt
cyan depot
I will also say that it benefits hugely from the scopes you get from the weapon customization mod - the revolver does too though
drowsy vine
Yeah, the base sights are trash
spiral badger
no
cyan depot
I've used it to pretty good effect
spiral badger
because it kind of sucks at armor pen and the zealot gets no bonuses for that
regal pendant
I'll stick to my Kantrael then
spiral badger
oh vs the kantrael on a zealot? then sure
cyan depot
It's nice for handling mobs of shooters but you don't have the perks to make it kill crushers and such
spiral badger
it's roughly equivalent
cyan depot
Works well if you have a melee which can handle hordes and armor
cyan depot
Works well if you have a melee which can handle hordes and armor
Which luckily - Zealot gets a bunch of these
spiral badger
yes but charge doesn't really synergize with a marksman weapon
i just prefer more aggressive options on zealot overall
due to positioning
drowsy vine
It doesn't really have to - if you tap it with no enemies in range you do a little spot dash and then you magdump the stuff you need to kill
cyan depot
It's really short if you're in ADS yeah
marsh gyro
Yeah zealot charge with headhunter autos is great for crusher busting
I use headhunters with eviscerators
spiral badger
i prefer a revolver sainted gunslinger/chant setup for that
but i do sometimes use charge tricks on heavy sword
drowsy vine
These days I generally just do the Charge revved eviscerator heavy trick to kill Chargers, admittedly
cyan depot
I use headhunters with eviscerators
That seems like a good combo, though I think I ran chainaxe or Thammer when I did this
But this had more to do with me having rotten luck getting good eviscerators for a while than anything else
(And the purely aesthetic thing that I don't really like the revving sound of the old one)
marsh gyro
Yeah thunder hammer is a good one too because it handles crowds good and just needs range
drowsy vine
These days I generally just do the Charge revved eviscerator heavy trick to kill...
Crushers* even
cloud hazel
yeah I was gonna say typically reviscerator doesn't need much to kill chargers
regal pendant
Yeah thunder hammer is a good one too because it handles crowds good and just ne...
I wish I enjoyed thunder hammer but it feels so painfully goddamn slow
...then again I did only really try Ironhelm, the other hammer might feel less like shit to use
cyan depot
yeah I was gonna say typically reviscerator doesn't need much to kill chargers
IDK I really struggle to kill these in Hive Tertium
drowsy vine
Lmfao
regal pendant
IDK I really struggle to kill these in Hive Tertium
Just call in a resupply pod, it'll instakill them if you position it right
Or run Big Bertha on Gunner, that shreds their armor
marsh gyro
I wish I enjoyed thunder hammer but it feels so painfully goddamn slow
Crowd control stat affects hammer swing speed; grab more attack speed if you can
cyan depot
Also you just gotta get used to pre-swinging it and letting people walk into it
Since it is also just slow
regal pendant
Hm
Might've been my issue
Does Ironhelm swing slower than the other one, though?
Kinda felt like it did from what little I tried testing the two out
regal pendant
...so uh
For some reason
Whenever I fire my gun
It doesn't play the sound of the gun going BANG
Instead everything goes silent and the only sound that plays is the casing hitting the ground
Same thing happens when I do a charged attack with my chainsword, just plays the sound of the chainsword ripping into the enemy and nothing else
cyan depot
You should probably verify game integrity and/or update your sound drivers that's pretty weird
heavy geyser
that's a soulsy look
cyan depot
Oh that is a good look
sacred pagoda
Warrior Priest of Sigmar-ass armor.
dawn totem
It's hard not to scratch that itch for more cosmetic swag
regal pendant
...then again I did only really try Ironhelm, the other hammer might feel less l...
Update: Crucis does indeed feel less like shit to use
Feels like Bardin's hammers in Vermintide 2, if slower and less good at crunching armor
There any way to make them less slow?
heavy geyser
Put a Thrust IV on that bad boy
won't make it faster but it'll solve the other problem.
regal pendant
What, them not crunching armor as good?
Eh. My anti-flak Kantrael deals with armor well enough.
heavy geyser
If you trusted me on the Kantrael, trust me on this.
The thing the Crucis wants more than anything else is Thrust IV and for you to charge as big as you can.
In exchange for this offering it will award you a sizable dose of serotonin
regal pendant
...boy I sure love queuing for an Auric only for one of my teammates to be a fascist and the other a fucking pedo
Ugh
cyan depot
In exchange for this offering it will award you a sizable dose of serotonin
It feels awesome when the stars align and you kill like 40% of a boss in 1 swing
marsh gyro
Or it's the maelstroms with the baby monstrosity specialists and you just 1HKO like 25 of them
split mantleBOT
definitely a power sword (no psychic powers involved)
twilit cradle
<@&1042950387478560878> tide tide? 🥺
drowsy vine
No idea
cyan depot
I seem to have also missed those haha
split mantleBOT
oh we have that outfit!
sacred pagoda
The Valhallans are my favorite Imperial Guard subtype.
quiet escarp
I think it was sometime last autumn, iirc
drowsy tusk
hmm deaths
drowsy tusk
nah we didnt have more than 1ish lol
marsh gyro
Some days the grimperor demands blood
regal pendant
...what's the purpose of the heavy swords?
Tried using them cause I wanted a good ol fashioned sword for my really Souls-y fit, but like
They just felt kinda middling
Not awful, but like
Why use em when I can just use a big chainsword
drowsy vine
The Mk...8? I think it is, has amazing hordeclear and still hacks armour apart pretty effectively
drowsy vine
Yeah
I haven't looked at the swords in a while
They're also significantly more manouverable than the chain weapons
Which is generally what other weapons have over them
regal pendant
I'll give Mk. 11 another shot then
tough compass
I find the swords pretty good at wave clear without having to think
At least one of them combos into endless sweeps
regal pendant
Oh yeah I remember one started off with an overhead heavy and then just horizontal heavies from there
For Mk. XI, is it "heavies are good for horde clear and armor shred" or "you can mindlessly spam lights to horde clear and use heavies for armor"?
BWUH
Thank you Brunt
brave kestrel
heavy 1 > special repeat for good anti armour/elite, lightspam is good for hordes
I have brutal momentum and rampage on mine, it's excellent
marsh gyro
Heavy sword special ignores stagger resist and can be used without slowing you down
regal pendant
I am
A convert to the Church of Heavy Sord
This shit rules
...until I run into a crusher
regal pendant
Ngl I kinda wanna use the Mk. VI heavy sword, if nothing else than because it's the coolest looking heavy sword by a long shot
And I mean the attack pattern isn't hugely different, overhead still has some degree of horde clear and the horizontal has that same level of horde clear I've found
marsh gyro
All 3 heavy swords have similar throughput and absolutely chomp through poxwalkers, the secret sauce to busting crushers is zealot charge to downgrade them to flak armor
Interestingly enough the vertical chops have 25% more cleave than the horizontals
regal pendant
Really now?
Interesting
Mk. VI seems fine enough thankfully, the overhead has good cleave like you said
Which is nice, it's definitely the best looking of the heavy swords imo
Hope the Aquila shop gets a good heavy sword skin
marsh gyro
Yeah what it is is the vertical chop will do full damage to 2 dudes then quickly scale down to 10% then 5% on third dude forward and the horizontal chops go 100-75-50-33-33 for up to six dudes of full chopping action
regal pendant
Damn, not bad
regal pendant
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split mantleBOT
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marsh gyro
Gonna get that plasteel in 5
signal current
I can be on in a few minutes
sly mica
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split mantleBOT
oh, thinking of it, have we posted this revolver here before?
i think we've got just about the best that we can
drowsy tusk
Yea that’s pretty good
regal pendant
Question
What's the purpose of the heavy swords' special attack, the one where you whack the enemy with the other side of your blade
cyan depot
ignores stagger resist so it can stagger pretty much anything for a sec
drowsy vine
Mainly for staggering Ragers and Maulers
marsh gyro
What's the purpose of the heavy swords' special attack, the one where you whack ...
Busts carapace
drowsy vine
I think Armour applies a flat stagger reduction those attacks can't ignore, so Crushers are still off the table
regal pendant
...really should run Bolter with this, huh
That way I'm not immediately fucked over by ONE crusher if I'm by myself
split mantleBOT
oh fuck thank the fucking gods f
we've been trying to get this, but we died instantly on our last mission
wasn't us going down, so,,, apparently it didn't count?
which. thank fuck
regal pendant
Huh
Guess "Being Downed" is considered a different state from "Dead"
Makes sense
drowsy vine
That way I'm not immediately fucked over by ONE crusher if I'm by myself
What ult are you running?
drowsy vine
Then you dont need a bolter