dark tidings (Darktide for people in the searchbar)

[cyan depot]

ogryn grenade tonfa kinda

[opaque crown]

i actually love the grenade punc haesthetically

but i rarely find a reason to use it

like normally

without forcing myself to

it does do a good job of making some space around you

[drowsy tusk]

Love the boomfist, it’s in the ranged slot

[drowsy tusk]

It’s good fun with a heavy attack melee build cause the boom punch counts as heavy melee

Also with the right blessings it can 1 shot flamers and gunners

[marsh gyro]

The brief period between patches 13 and 14 where the grenade gauntlet did like 1300 damage per heavy melee punch was beautiful and gone forever

[opaque crown]

my main gripe is that its a bit on the slow side, needs me to not have fired all my shots, and doesn't hit as hard/frequently as my melee of choice

but boy is it entertaining

to grenade punch things

[marsh gyro]

I don't know if the grenade punch ties up monstrosities and I will test and send a trip report

[drowsy tusk]

I do believe if you have the brittleness applying blessing it will do it to all enemies in the blast but haven’t tested it

[limpid zinc]

A good evi can one shot everything

[opaque crown]

with basic swings and unrevved heavies?

I have a pretty good evi and it doesn't seem to do that

[limpid zinc]

All chain weapons can end crushers with their revd heavies. The zelly charge ult helps

[opaque crown]

yeah, the revved heavy isn't a given in a crusher mob though. It works, but its not nearly as flash in the pan or controlly as a ironhelm smack, which doens't kill em but it does knock em down and lets you back the ef up in a jiffy

i got no problems using a revved attack to kill an armored guy

but the reved attacks don't generally swing through lesser enemies in a crowd nor do they go off insantly

[limpid zinc]

Ironhelm should kill in one shot

Mine does

You need to use camera control to land empowered attacks on your intended target

And aim heads

[opaque crown]

im not generally running charge, im usually running icon as a team supporter with secondary melee clearing/bonking

so im not super juiced on my melees

i can post up my hammer and build later when im not at a work computer

but i don't generally expect it to one shot a crusher or even a mauler

[marsh gyro]

Two shotting a crusher or mauler is pretty decent

[opaque crown]

yeah my main relic build picks are mauler/ironhelm cause they do big bops and keep things stumbling

[marsh gyro]

I rock the Crucis Mk2 with Charge and Martyrdom and Ironhelm Mk4 with relic and bottom left crit fury it works great on both

[opaque crown]

i don't remember, but i think my relic one is straight down the middle

big wound stacks

[marsh gyro]

Yeah that's a great play too

[opaque crown]

my favorite combo is generally slug shotty and evis, but the ironhelm has proven to be very good just general purpose

[limpid zinc]

you want the blessing that makes your charged heavies hit harder

thunderous or whatever its called

[drowsy tusk]

T H R U S T

[limpid zinc]

yeah thrust

through thrust all one hits are achieved

[drowsy vine]

Thrust is truly goofy stuff

Its also how the new oggy shovels get the one hits

[thick rivet]

dueling sword is an elite killer, right?

otherwise its moveset is

shite

[drowsy vine]

It depends on the duelling sword

I forget which mark has the good moveset

@thick rivet the mk 4 is the one you want

Which basically has Salty's VT2 rapier moveset

[thick rivet]

I

as a bounty hunter main oh my god no it doesn't

like it's similar, but I can hit more than one target as salty

[cloud hazel]

it hits enough targets I've never really had issues with dancing through hordes of mooks

you just dodge so far and so fast that pushblocking earns you a kilometer of space

[drowsy vine]

Same different

[cyan depot]

IME the dueling swords are all blenders

But I pretty much just use them with scriers gaze

[thick rivet]

they seem to be a very gaze weapon

Making an assail/gaze build for it

[drowsy vine]

I'm Chainswordpilled when it comes to Psyker

[cyan depot]

I honestly just use force swords most of the time

I like deflector

And they're real good vs Mutants

[thick rivet]

trying a gaze build, but without an actual gun lmao

[drowsy vine]

Force Swords are... okay

[thick rivet]

man

not feeling gaze or assail

like

wtf

[cyan depot]

What talents are you running?

[thick rivet]

warp expenditure, quietude, assail with both augments, mind in motion, seer's presence, one with the warp, empathic evasion, scrier's gaze with reality anchor and endurance, and warp rider

[cyan depot]

What keystone?

[thick rivet]

not high enough level

planning for empowered psionics

[cyan depot]

That might be the missing link - assail really likes all the keystones

Though I think Disrupt Destiny is strongest for it if you can put up with the casino build

Also its IMO always worth it to get Soulstealer if you kill with warp attacks like at all

[cloud hazel]

in a casino your own teammates don't actively dick you over

[thick rivet]

Luck Is The Great Enemy

[cyan depot]

It's passive really they can't see shit

[thick rivet]

All my homies hate luck

[cloud hazel]

it's the same magic Mario Kart back-o-vision they use to step into your line of sight during counterfire

[thick rivet]

I'm gonna keep with my smite shriek build

the dueling sword went against my instincts as a psyker

which was to be godly hordeclear

by stunning people then helping my team hack them to bits

[thick rivet]

okay I think I've figured out a possible build to use

dueling sword, trauma staff, assail, dome

But for now

Back to my zany zealot lady

[thick rivet]

I am being tempted to start an ogryn by looking at stubber gameplay

[opaque crown]

its

very satisfying

though the learning curve will mean you'll just fart through all of your ammo

while laughing and yelling

[marsh gyro]

4 stubber ogryns all blasting at once is an experience all Darktide players should have

[buoyant apex]

Shame the stubber is so far into Ogryn progression :(

[marsh gyro]

Yeah gotta get to level 9 before full auto funsies though at least the other stubbers unlock at 11 and 13 so you get the full stubber roster quick

[opaque crown]

ripper can be a fun blaster too

4 rippers is VOLUME

[alpine needle]

Saturation fire at it's best.

[drowsy tusk]

1 stub bub, 1 bloop toober, 1 certified ripper and a kickback, the ideal team comp

[alpine needle]

I love it when my big special guy accidentally fumbles putting the box mag on and has to flip it around.

Ogryn moment

[drowsy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[alpine needle]

I'm the one on the right

Shield gang. I stare out the tiny window in my good shield like

When the evil fart gass demon gets ornery, and I have to block 3000 consecutive points of damage

[drowsy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-darktide-ryback-gif-27166387

[hushed glade]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-gif-26958961

[quiet escarp]

See heavy stubber is what will convert you to playing ogryn but the toughness on heavy attacks + confident strike making you invincible is what will make you stay

Having gotten all my classes to 30 now I can genuinely say that ogryn sometimes feels like easy mode, relatively speaking. The amount of impact all your attacks have combined with the amount of self sustain you can bring means you're never aa scared of crusher or mauler packs like the other classes have to be

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> wowwe zowwe darktide time

[lapis jetty]

gimme 🕐

[split mantle]

we'll be home in like 2 hours if you're still around then

[drowsy tusk]

if im not feel free to shoot me a msg cause ill still be around prolly

[split mantle]

[marsh gyro]

Dang that's a good staff

[drowsy tusk]

ey how it lookin

[thick rivet]

I've done it

The most edgy 13 year old look in existence

[sonic elbow]

still less skulls than on canon art

[drowsy vine]

Hopefully FS has some news this month

[dawn totem]

"Yeah, it's a phase, Mom. My badass phase."🤘

[marsh gyro]

It turns out Darktide supports frame rate caps and mine was set at 40 for some reason and so I tried 60 FPS Darktide for the first time and it was transformative

Still got captured by a trapper haha

[drowsy tusk]

So a new era of Clem yea?

[marsh gyro]

50% more tide per second instead of Warhammer 40 Frames

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> in like 10 mins or something?

[lapis jetty]

how about right now

[drowsy tusk]

no in a bit

[lapis jetty]

😠

[bronze gull]

gimme 15

also idk if there's like first time setup and stuff

[split mantle]

we'll be there!

[drowsy tusk]

theres a tutorial id recomenned doin but otherwise

[bronze gull]

actually its going to be quite a bit longer than that

don't wait for me

[drowsy tusk]

all is good me fella

[bronze gull]

any ogryn players here have reccomendations for how to spend my first 3 talent points?

[spiral badger]

toughness regen

whichever ones give you toughness back on heavy attacks

[drowsy vine]

Furious, Smash Em, Best Defence

Which yeah, is +% damage on next attack based on how many people you tag with a heavy, and the two heavy attack toughness regen ones

Those are key to oggy

As long as you are Present in Melee you are the tankiest dude out there

[bronze gull]

gotcha, thanks!

when should I pull out my gun as an Ogryn? I'm really struggling to tell when's a good time to fight in ranged vs in melee

[drowsy vine]

Depends on the gun really

Ogryn is funny for that since their weapons all trend towards killing stuff over a wide area

Usually

Generally if you see a big clump of enemies and you have a Kickback, Rumbler or Ripper you can magdump to thin the horde

Thinning or controlling shooter packs is also very important

Probably the most important thing unless you trust your team to have a strong anti shooter presence

Which is why I tend towards stuff like the Grenadier Gauntlet or Stubbers

[slender shell]

Basically unless you're using stubbers use ranged to advance aggressively for shooters, if you don't kill them with the first shot it'll knock them on their asses

Of course don't try running head on to a squad of reapers but you'll get a feel for it as you play

If you can get into the melee it's usually a good idea, tons of toughness Regen, high health pools, and bleeds on heavies

[drowsy vine]

Yeah unless you're running Gungryn (which comes online later) you want to use your ranged to facilitate your melee

[bronze gull]

Thanks a bunch

[thick rivet]

Yeah that’s Zealot’s job

[bronze gull]

are the items on this shop on a rotation? i really do like that scion helmet

[cyan depot]

I think that might have been the last rotation

[bronze gull]

Option to purchase it is still there, so I'm not sure

[marsh gyro]

It's a rolling rotation where each item has about a 3 week window to purchase

Old stuff rotates back in occasionally and it takes a good while

[bronze gull]

Gotcha

I'm guessing there's no way to earn that premium currency through just playin' the game, eh?

[drowsy vine]

Sadly not no

[bronze gull]

fuuuuuuckin' ell

[opaque crown]

ive learned that for whatever reason, the AMD 7600 does not play nice with darktide at all

with its current driver set

so i cannot play the game with any ease or frequency

which is frustrating

[marsh gyro]

Is it possible to roll back the driver?

Alternately, was any fancy settings turned on secretly when you updated drivers?

[opaque crown]

not that i saw no, and i think rolling back is possible but not easy, as i installed the 7600 fresh with up to date drivers, not having any old ones saved. So my rollback feature just rolls back to when i had no drivers. I need to look up more options cause i think community folks have figured out workarounds, but I've not the energy to troubleshoot right after work usually, unless a fix is straightforward and easy to apply

already tried reinstalling the drivers, which netted me one game

[gentle flame]

Old staff

New Staff

That only took about 700K Dockets and 3000 plasteel

[opaque crown]

i feel with all the money we collectively give hadron

they could by their own imperial cruiser

[slender shell]

Did the amount of threads being used get reset in the darktide settings?

[opaque crown]

uncertain

id have to be at my machine to really check

[opaque crown]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1alzlw4/custom_multilaser_with_servoskull_targeter_assist/?share_id=WlC4XHIef-ZmwqsFq3xMX&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=13

[olive tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> any chance of uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh anyone darking they tide??????

[split mantle]

omg us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mint yew]

might be there in 20 mins or so once I've eaten

[bronze gull]

OH SHIT HELL YEAH

[split mantle]

we should also have something to eat tbh

[twilit cradle]

hold on i think we have Snacks™️

[olive tusk]

huge ‼️

i'm also eating

20 mins sounds good

[bronze gull]

gotcha, @ me again

do you fellas want me on ogryn or vetty?

it usually takes me a while to load into either

[olive tusk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ur call bossman

[bronze gull]

u got it

[split mantle]

okay we might actually bake pizza and eat that too

that would be based as hell

[olive tusk]

what kinda pizza .......................................

[split mantle]

shmeat lover's

[olive tusk]

i was gonna put the sake away but if we're hangin out i'll keep it by me

its insane how correct you are about everything 17

[bronze gull]

very good

drink responsibily friend eight

[split mantle]

it's me eight the sake speaking to you from inside your brain, drink me, we don't need responsibility, we'll have cowboy times in space, do do do do yeah

gods if you don't get that reference i'm gonna throw us off a cliff

my petition to throw us off of any large ledges has been denied without appeal by the sylvanian senate

[olive tusk]

ithink its time we blow this scene, get everybody and the stuff together

ok three two one lets jam BADA BADA BADA BABA BAAAAAA

[signal current]

Getting on my Xbox now

[olive tusk]

good !!!!!!!!!!!!!! the senate is wise i appreciate yalls company

[split mantle]

that's so nice

[signal current]

If you guys have room, if not I’ll just vibe in the same vc

[split mantle]

it's always so shocking to hear people like us

[olive tusk]

i like you a lot !!!!!!!!!

great friends

[buoyant apex]

You're wonderful, and I wish we hung out together more, because you are lovely to be around

[signal current]

Hard agree with what everyone else is saying

[olive tusk]

just washin up then i'll be on

[split mantle]

we'll be maybe another 5 minutes

[bronze gull]

stats folks, is the 220 worth refining over the 207?

im still pretty new to vettie

[twilit cradle]

you should probably just sit on your plasteel until you hit level 30

[mint yew]

both are a complete waste of time putting plasteel into, save it until you're L30 and can start grabbing 360+ guns

[bronze gull]

oh nuts

[mint yew]

the stats difference between any gun at this level is basically irrelevant compared to the difference between these and the guns you'll be getting in half a dozen missions' time, so no point upgrading them

[cyan depot]

Those look like usable guns but yeah

The difference between pre 30 gear drops and the later stuff is night and day

[mint yew]

oh, they'll be fine for clicking heads in Malice, but you only start caring about blessings at 30

[bronze gull]

gotcha, thanks

i imagine that applies to curios as well?

[twilit cradle]

yep

[cyan depot]

Just try stuff out and have fun until 30

Plasteel runs out constantly so stockpiling a bunch of it is good

[bronze gull]

urgh, ive only got 720 on me now

[marsh gyro]

Good news is when you hit 30 a threat 5 mission gives 700 average plasteel per 30 minute run so you'll be fine

[buoyant apex]

Hm

[marsh gyro]

Threat 3 missions give about 200 per run and threat 4 gives about 400 per run

[buoyant apex]

Yeah sure I can hop on if you'll have me

[twilit cradle]

we are scarfing down pizza

[olive tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/miia-monster-musume-anime-blush-sweating-gif-16442752

[signal current]

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[signal current]

Since I know absolutely nothing about what is actually good for high tier guns I’m using y’all as my sounding board

[marsh gyro]

That's a great entry level gun for threat 5 - once you get 700 plasteel you can orange it up

Basically anything 330 rating or up is probably gonna get a rank 3 or 4 blessing in the blue and orange phases and a orange gun with two rank 3 blessings is a real bruiser

[bronze gull]

stares at u with our autistic eyes

[opaque crown]

so close to being a spec ops team lol

a bit funny that its like 3 vets and the crazy one

[alpine needle]

"Lol stare into the sun dweeb"

[wraith grove]

https://x.com/dj_b3n1/status/1756387904413208628?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIBdHHIw

beni - (COMMS - OPEN )🪓🛡️ (@dj_b3n1) on X

squad of rejects

Twitter · Feb 10, 2024, 6:41 PM

[dawn totem]

Love this ❤️

[marsh gyro]

Gotta play "Fire Woman" by The Cult while on missions with that

[dawn totem]

"Have a little Plasma scarecrow!"

[dawn totem]

"Right in my face!" 😵‍💫

[alpine needle]

I'm sorry in advance

[white portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[bronze gull]

fuuuuck me, switching from malice to heresey is a rough jump

most of my randoms and i just get toasted
just had a really great team get wiped by a combo of bad enemy spawns in a really tough spot

[opaque crown]

it really pushes your ability to keep yourself safe

and preserving ammunition

[alpine needle]

Heresy feels harder than damnation sometimes

[cyan depot]

Heresy has a way of lulling you into a sense of false safety

[bronze gull]

innit

[alpine needle]

and then dog dog trapper hail mary fire bomb from the bomber

party wipe

[bronze gull]

our ogryn was left on a sliver after a helluva clutch and we couldn't find a medstation for him :((

when he went down to a surprise poxer the whole thing fell apart

[opaque crown]

the things I'd offer as advice is focus even more on self preservation, don't commit to gambits to get kills, and uh... make sure your loadout is somewhat balanced

[marsh gyro]

Yeah having a good answer for both poxwalker groups and carapace dudes is a good litmus test

[bronze gull]

what works well against 'em? i notice i struggle with 'em quite a bit

[drowsy vine]

Which ones?

[marsh gyro]

A lot of weapons will have a "penetration" or similar stat you can mouse over and see how they bust flak and carapace - rending from blessings or perks adds directly to this percentage so it makes a big difference

Combat axes, foldable shovels, bully clubs, power weapons are all good at busting carapace - you can go into the Psykhanium and test what feels good to use

[bronze gull]

thanks boss

Anything ranged that's good for 'em?

[cloud hazel]

the heaviest weapons are the only things that will meaningfully kill them without wasting tons of ammo or time generally

bolter/plasma/lucius iii

the notable exception being the revolver which got nerfed last patch to no longer just two-tap em

[marsh gyro]

Yeah generally the slower firing stuff can work good especially with rending bonuses

Slug shotgun slugs work in a pinch and are slow to reload

[alpine needle]

Shovel my beloved bonk

[bronze gull]

i love slug shotties

so sad i had to stop using mine because i got a braced auto with a higher powerscore

[bronze gull]

aw man wish i could grab this

[bronze gull]

fuckin hell man some of the teammates you can get can be right assholes
had this guy with a helluva stick up his ass, kept patronizing everyone and running wayyy ahead of everyone else, fucking up cohesion
blamed us when we inevitably flopped
what a fuckin shithead

[mortal crystal]

Yeah...teammate quality below a certain difficulty is iffy at best.

[limpid zinc]

Teammates are immeasurably worse at lower difficulties

Most damn+ players are chill ime

Auric especially

It's only when I was levelling alts or sandbagging new friends that I had shitty people turn up

[mortal crystal]

Unironically pugging Damnation might be easier than pugging Heresy

[cyan depot]

I think it is honestly

[limpid zinc]

heresy is more soloable, ymmv

[opaque crown]

some people play like speedrunning is a thing to do in pugs. They're wrong, even if they can play fast, sticking together is the smarter play

[alpine needle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732040806491357184/1206976581004955668/IMG_1144.png?ex=65ddf789&is=65cb8289&hm=6a61094f0b2a183b0be2fa5910cf105cd9a517af001d900c2743aa4e815df9a0&

[dawn totem]

It's something to play a stealth Vet who's set up with lots of operatives friendly cohesion buffs only to spend a Malice level picking up teammates like a fussy mom chasing after their kids.

[marsh gyro]

It's a great opportunity for double stealth charges to shine

[dawn totem]

Is Improvised Equipment worth it?

[marsh gyro]

Is that the super ammo boxes? I take it every time because I like to be the change in the group because I get a lot of queues into groups where I'm the only Vet

[dawn totem]

Pop on the stat that reduces ability charge time with each specialist kill and you're in business.

Ah haha, good idea. Though I'm building this Vet more for speed and stealth, so aside from a few groups im not sure. I typically take grenade regene instead

[thick rivet]

I have a stealth build vet that is probably more of the problem in this area than the solution

It does not help I accidentally picked the bitchiest personality

XD

[dawn totem]

My Vet personality is very, "yes sir, no sir, I know all the codes, sir."

I feel like depending on the build, Vets shine taking down elites and specialists.

[thick rivet]

Oh mine’s great at that

She’s just a very selfish build

[dawn totem]

Those are a lot of fun.

[marsh gyro]

This one's a hybrid Infiltrate build I'm tinkering with, goes good with chainaxe and Kantrael 1a infantry lasgun

[dawn totem]

Every Vet build of mind always has no suppression and extra ammo

[bronze gull]

hit level 30 on vet!

[cyan depot]

🥳

[quiet escarp]

Finally got a plasma gun I'm reasonably satisfied with

How much does the low charge rate let it down?

[marsh gyro]

You can mouse over the stat in the inspect screen and see the math, it's like a tenth of a second per 10% difference, it'll feel a bit sluggish and still usable

[quiet escarp]

Yeah it doesn't feel so bad, thankfully I don't really have any other point of reference for it being faster so my brain is fine with it

I do keep having a weird bug where none of the fx or sound for firing play during missions though, which is getting kind of disorienting

Like the animation still happens and I get hitmarkers/enemies die but no flash or sound

[marsh gyro]

Yeah that happens like 40% the time since in Dec 2023 with Patch 14 so it's been a couple of months; it's on their radar on the bug forums so might get fixed next big patch

[alpine needle]

Thankless job but someones gotta do it 🤝

[dawn totem]

Darktide YouTubers have two modes:
A. Darktide is DYING!!
B. Darktide is back babyyyyyyyy!!

[marsh gyro]

Darktide's in a real interesting spot because it's been a couple months since the last content drop and that drop is big enough most folks are still chewing on it while it's been long enough the content creator crowd is now through it and waiting for the next thing

[alpine needle]

Hungry for more lore to make speculative videos about.

[tough compass]

I find the "Darktide is dying" stuff funny because the user base has been flat for a long time lol

[dawn totem]

I know Darktide is being compared to Helldivers 2 (which is very weird cause these are two very different PvE horde games.)

[limpid zinc]

It jumped to like 15k after the update and has steadily eroded back down to like 6 so

It probably looks pretty bad except that the 6k is pretty stable of a pop for now

[marsh gyro]

It's stable enough for getting a Quick Play threat 5 match in a minute or less at just about any time of day

[tough compass]

... I see what I did wrong. I didn't realize steamcharts would require me to scroll horizontally

[opaque crown]

late answer to this, but imo absolutely yes. Even if it only gave back grenades itd still be worth for other party members, the other stuff is also great

[opaque crown]

leave it to the internet to immediately cleave to an extremely polarized view point

[hushed glade]

It's two different pvp horde games however the overlap is very real

the same people who would 4-man Darktide are the ones that would 4-man Helldivers

[opaque crown]

Man it's been tough, haven't been able to play any darktide since I got the new gpu. Tried rolling back drivers, tried underclocking on the and software, tried shutting down all my overlays, playing unmodded, lowering all my settings. Still just a matter of when my drivers will time out really

[cyan depot]

Weird

I'm guess you've done a clean install

(Also what GPU?)

[opaque crown]

Yeah, rtx7600. It's not darktide specific problem, only seems to replicate on newer/ish games, like helldivers and darktide

It's a driver timeout issue that crashes the game and displays momentarily

[cyan depot]

Have you used this?

https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/

[opaque crown]

Yeah that's the first thing I did when I switched over, and then again when I rolled back to an older driver version

[cyan depot]

dang

[opaque crown]

A fresh windows install might be on the horizon

But I want to avoid it

[cyan depot]

That's fair

Might be worth doing since its fairly painless these days

[opaque crown]

Yeah

Just such a bother that it's effectively a dice roll on when and if my game will crash, sometimes I can complete a mission and sometimes I can't even load in

Helldivers is effectively unplayable on pc, but thankfully works great on the steam deck

[grave talon]

i may switch from inciendary munition shotgun to the slug one for my martyr build

[dawn totem]

I'd like to give the shotgun another whirl.

[opaque crown]

i think they're all currently good

the agripinaa with the slug is probably the more versatile

but ive been a lawbringer fan of late

the flat spread shot combo'd with the special crit blessing is a potent crowd sweeper

i need to give the heavy shotty with the flames another chance

post nerf last year it felt so much worse

[marsh gyro]

It's pretty serviceable after they bumped the numbers up in patch 14

Buck shot for single targets, flame shell for long distance or groups

[dawn totem]

I try to pair the Zealot's melee with a good ranged weapon. Like pairing a good wine with an entree.

[opaque crown]

my zealot pick is consistently the agripinaa with the slugs

good panic up close with accuracy, and a great precision weapon in a fix

[bronze gull]

is it normal to go down a lot as ogryn? i feel like that happens a ton more than it does when i play vet

[marsh gyro]

Ogryn's a big target so they eat a lot of incidental fire

[bronze gull]

Yeah, dealing with ranged enemies right outside of taunt range can be a pain

[marsh gyro]

Having turbo toughness regeneration will keep you up in action longer - the melee nodes at top of tree for single target or multi target hits for 25% regen add up quick depending on your melee weapon as does the toughness regen while bracing for gunlugger

[bronze gull]

shield can help with that but unfortunately mine isn't very high power

[bronze gull]

which melee weapons are best for those builds?

[marsh gyro]

They're all great

For your shield you'll want both melee toughness nodes

On your gun if using a ripper or a stubber there's a level 4 blessing Inspiring Barrage that will functionally make you invincible toughness as you hold down the trigger and the easiest combo to do with shield is to look for Can Opener 3 to combo with Born in Blood 3
E: can opener is more important than a toughness perk because it's for anti-carapace

Are you using taunt or charge?

[bronze gull]

Using taunt atm

[marsh gyro]

Yeah in that case there's two good ways to approach shooter clusters

1. slow and steady with shield up until you get to 8m, then pop taunt and get bashing
2. lob ranged shots downtown while pushing forward to sow discord - great with rumbler or grenade gauntlet

I run Rumbler with the Adhesive Charge with my shield because like steak and chocolate they're both great crowd pleasers

[opaque crown]

yeah a big bit is having things ot heavy attack in melee as an ogryn

to keep pushing your toughness up

and being very aware of where you can go to reduce the pressure on you at range

hopefully your resident vet will help clear range for you

but if not shield can keep you safe

and the rumbler is an excellent tool to knock things down and kill at range

if the shooter danger is just too thick, try to get all incoming shots to come from a singel direction via positioning and alt fire the shiel to plant it; makes you entirely immune to ranged attacks that impact the shield; and you lose no stamina while doing so

once you get the taunt block node, this can make life real easy as you automatically taunt every single normal shooter that shoots you, and they run up to try and melee you

which can thin the horde of ranged guys hurting you significantly

note that gunners do not switch to melee when taunted

[bronze gull]

When levelling up my char, does my gear's power score ultimately matter?

[cyan depot]

Not really

[bronze gull]

Like should I just stick with my lower power rumblr and shield if I'm comfy with them

[cyan depot]

It’s much more important once you’re at 30

[opaque crown]

sort of but not specifically, ti can give you a solid idea of how good your thing is at a glance, but you would need ot be more discerning with specific stats and blessings to really get a good read on em

and yeah, it matters most when you're already at cap

if your lower point rumbler is stil killing folk, then its fine

if its struggling to kill folk, might need an upgrade

[marsh gyro]

The difference in every 20% in a stat is like 8% throughput so it adds up over time

It's not expensive to grab a new rumbler and shield from Brunt and make them blue if there's a big gap like when you ding 30

[bronze gull]

gotcha, thanks

[marsh gyro]

Bleed stacks from Ogryn heavy melee left side are independent of gear score so those can get you surprisingly far

[opaque crown]

also bleed stacks generally are your bread and butter output as a shieldgryn

cause the shield is many things, but the most lethal of melee implements in the ogryn roster it is not

my usual combos are either shield + rumbler or shield + ripper with can opener

or shield + nade gauntlet

[bronze gull]

Oooh thanks

I've not been giving that part of the tree much attention atm

so maybe I should put a few points in there when I get them

[opaque crown]

If you got the points, the bleed attacks are a game changer imo

[marsh gyro]

Yeah each heavy is 4 stacks and it goes up to 16

[bronze gull]

incredible

[alpine needle]

seems pretty good

[alpine needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/287346273571307521/1208191572307345408/m2-res_1080p_15.mp4?ex=65e26315&is=65cfee15&hm=b7f8a528a5e338ccd455b1a557579c8b8bceca806f4d0be128b252aa781b42d4&

[white portal]

the rock of forgiveness often arrives in heavy momentum

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> helldivers shidded the bed yall want to do tide?

[split mantle]

we'll be up for some in like 10-15

dealing with things

[bronze gull]

shit, gun customization is a thing???

[slender shell]

Mod

[twilit cradle]

it's a mod

[drifting prism]

They modded it

[alpine needle]

I thought I saw an extended weapon customization mod. Does that one let you really orkify your guns. Just barrels on barrels. 3 carry handles.

[opaque crown]

So I got darktide working again by turning off multiplaning in my windows register editor

[cyan depot]

Huh I’ve never heard of that, glad the fix worked haha

[heavy geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-Yq5YXL9c

[tough compass]

lmao that is amazing

though I am disappointed that after you clean it, it isn't still banged up with paint chipped off

[sinful shadow]

this is an absolutely splended use of the games workshop ip

[cyan depot]

https://x.com/jetblackraider/status/1661821603158839297?s=20

jetblackraider 🐀 (@jetblackraider) on X

On my knees sobbing as I try and replace the gilt on the 7000 year old chapter relic that just swirled down the drain

Twitter · May 25, 2023, 7:48 PM

[soft summit]

Time for

the Great Clean one

[thick rivet]

I

Why

[soft summit]

cleaning simulator reminded me of it

[buoyant apex]

😭

[distant surge]

he took a sponge bath

[dawn totem]

Ah, go back to now showering, please!

[alpine needle]

look how happy he is

[twilit cradle]

<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for a run or two?

[drowsy tusk]

would be but imprisoned by employment

[split mantle]

[bronze gull]

once im out of my current run

[split mantle]

how long do you think you'll be?

[bronze gull]

we just wiped lol

gimme like 30-50 seconds

darktide takes a long ass time to load back into the morningstar on my pc

[drowsy vine]

wait letter aren't you working

[drowsy tusk]

yea im at work so cant play but downtime so i can shitpost in the vc

[drowsy vine]

hell yeah

[twilit cradle]

.

[bronze gull]

strange insect

[alpine needle]

Cute name

[dense trout]

I put you in a terrarium and observe you

[mortal crystal]

Patch out!

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4158581595041678690

You want bug fixes? Here's your bug fixes!

Also some enemy nerfs

No new content, but lots of smoothing of rough edges

Demonhosts now only kill 1 person

And dreg/scab gunners no longer have knockback

[tough compass]

Oh wow, that last one is pretty nice

No more being stuck in a corner dying lol

[mortal crystal]

Reapers still do notably

But they're rarer and bigger so imo it's fine if they're scarier

[alpine needle]

That last one is huge for my bad slide timing

[opaque crown]

scab gunners not having knockback

ogryns everywhere rejoice

[distant surge]

That's an update?

[bronze gull]

giving zealot a try, noticed there's two thunder hammers

which one's better? gave both a try and the only difference seems to be a weird interaction with charged hits and fodder on the second one where they just cleave through

[drowsy vine]

the combos are significantly different, and yeah, the charged hits are different

Ironhelm has cleave on them, but the Crucis has much higher damage

With the right setups you can still one shot some bosses with it

[opaque crown]

the usual thoughts i hear are that the ironhelm will be a better generalist, but the crucis is the better nuker

but it is notable that the crucis has sweeping heavies for ease of application, while the ironhelm has more mix ups

[gentle flame]

My first real mission back into DT and what do I get? A fresh 30 bringing in 2 buddies whom are 20 and 17... In auric HISHOCK

[cloud hazel]

[gentle flame]

Never change dt community

Unironically though, this shit makes me unreasonably frustrated. I should actually just leave the lobby when it happens

[marsh gyro]

At least the partial rewards ain't bad

[limpid zinc]

With the gunner changes? I could carry 😈

[bronze gull]

anyone else been getting disconnected and error codes lately?

[marsh gyro]

Been getting some shaky connection but I chalked that up to wi fi

[bronze gull]

think i might change the perks but this plasma gun looks neato

[dawn totem]

Whoever came up with calling it, "Heresydiving," they are a scholar and a gentleperson.

[marsh gyro]

We'll make them an honorary Ogryn

The patch 17 shook up the mission with the pneumatic conveyer plague samples and made the cogitator array mid mission set piece real pretty on the lighting

[bronze gull]

decided to make a psyker

having a rough time figuring out the gameplay loop

[marsh gyro]

If they're really far away use a pysker blitz and if they're close up blast 'em normally or chop 'em

Brain Burst will bust armor good

[drowsy vine]

Psyker's gameplay is very influenced by their blitz, whether you take a gun or a staff, and your ult choice

the combination of the three determines roughly What You Can Get Away With

[cyan depot]

Broadly speaking the thing is that psyker has a lot of AoE and infinite ammo

[bronze gull]

planning to go for staff probably

i've seen psykers dousing hordes in blue fire like a hand-flamer and i wanna do that

[marsh gyro]

Fire staff unlocks at level 15 so it'll be a little bit but all the other staves are cool too

[bronze gull]

cool!

i just hope people won't yell at me if i take one into damn or something

a lotta the folks i've seen on the 'tube and the like seem to take this shit super serious and it scares me lol

how should I build my psyker?

[marsh gyro]

People do take the game too serious on YouTube and are mostly chill in quick play

[cyan depot]

Fire staff is pretty meta

IMO it really needs heresy or damnation to shine

[marsh gyro]

Damnation's pretty safe to do at 30 when you have your full tree

[cyan depot]

Since it clears hordes so well you kinda need the hordes to be big to specialize that much

[marsh gyro]

Malice I like doing at level 10 upward and then Heresy in the late 20s when Malice is too easy

[bronze gull]

it's annoying since people on the tube are way too sweaty but i dont wanna poke the reddit or the discord with a 20 foot pole

so getting concrete info from anywhere besides here is tough

[dawn totem]

New cosmetic stuff is pretty interesting. I tend to gravitate toward the weapon skins.

[marsh gyro]

For casual lookup information on the guns or the skill trees I like the GamesLantern tools, there's community builds too
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/

[dawn totem]

Otherwise I'm seeing a of recolors lol

[marsh gyro]

I think I solved the secret of the Mk6 ogryn cleaver, it turns out +140% power from Thrust 4, Slaughterer 4, and Crunch! Node is just enough for being able to W+hold M1 through anything smaller than carapace

Maulers you can slice good on the torso but crushers you'll need to solve with the ranged weapon (Can opener ripper, nade gauntlet, or rumbler best)

[cyan depot]

Oh wow

[marsh gyro]

It ain't the best boss DPS but it'll sustain forever vs chaos spawn and plague ogryn in a 1v1 and beasts of nurgle just gotta shoot the face

[bronze gull]

hit level 30 on my second character, my ogryn!

[marsh gyro]

It turns out playing combat axe disrupt destiny scrier's gaze Psyker like an Ogryn is both profitable and analogous to being Sonic the Hedgehog - being hit once loses all your rings

[opaque crown]

Hahaha

I gotta give that a try, been doing dueling Saber

[marsh gyro]

Big shoutout to a Surgical Lucius Helbore Mk3 on a middle tree super tagging vet, it's not too hard to splash a little left bottom tree for free crit lasgun shots and you can one shot most elites on weak spot hit and two crit tap marked crushers; Maulers still get a Krak

[bronze gull]

is there a way to specifically turn morningstar chat off? pub games i need it on for comms but i saw a guy just spamming slurs and i really don't wanna see that again while im testing breakpoints and shit

[marsh gyro]

Doesn't appear to be a way to disable chat entirely far as I can tell - just blocking folks through the social tab

[bronze gull]

levelling my zealot and tinkering with my build: i wanna try pairing throwing knives with a flamer and a single target melee like a chainaxe

[marsh gyro]

Yeah the knives are versatile and let your friends have all the nade pickups

Flamer doesn't do flak and carapace so chainaxe is a good versatile option as is thunder hammer and Eviscerator

[tough compass]

Flamer does those great with charge >.>

Unless they finally changed that

[marsh gyro]

They had to nerf it a couple of times so charging with the flamer beats flak good now but for carapace it just takes too long

[tough compass]

Oh, that's good. Even if it might make my zealot sad

[bronze gull]

What does the impact stat cover, knockback? I see this in skill trees and blessings all the time but I have no idea what it actually does

[cyan depot]

Stagger and knockback and such

[bronze gull]

Thanks!
What about power?

[blazing storm]

IIRC Power affects most things, though damage and cleave mainly

[bronze gull]

fucking hell
(im not mad at you, just at the way stats barely seem to be explained at all in this game, and how fucking many of them there are)

[bronze gull]

Is beacon of purity on zealot even worth it? been running it for a while but not really noticing any benefit

[cyan depot]

In normal missions it’s kind of meh

Comes into its own with things like the twins though

[marsh gyro]

Beacon of Purity heals off a lot of chip damage and can be nice if there's no Veterans with super medic crates.

Generally grabbing Beacon is a quick way to get to Chorus so they're synergistic. The toughness damage reduction on left side is always welcome though.

Loner doesn't exist in my builds

[drowsy vine]

Loner doesn't exist period

[opaque crown]

The main thing with beacon is that what it's doing can be kind of invisible, but it's really nice over the course of a mission

As clem mentioned, it's repairing a lot of cumulative chip damage

[bronze gull]

Folks who run the flamer on zealot, what blessings and perks should I look out for?

[distant surge]

Heretic go AAAAAA

[spiral badger]

it's pretty grab bag for blessings

the one i like is quickflame

for maximum uptime

overpressure is also good

for perks i like unarmored and unyielding

for toasting hordes and stacking boss damage

it's shit against armor no matter what so might as well make it extra good at what t does

[bronze gull]

thanks boss

yeah i usually run a chain axe or sword to deal with armor, and knives for snipers and gunners

[marsh gyro]

Nailing a scab sniper with a knife is art, nailing one with the ogryn rock is science

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> wowwe zowee would ya look at the tide

[bronze gull]

just saw the ping when i got into a game
ill join in a bit

[drowsy tusk]

https://discord.gg/AMujP93E

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[bronze gull]

that's terrifyin

brb lunch so late it's basically dinner

[bronze gull]

i think he really likes packing fudge

[bronze gull]

til i'd been sleeping on stripped down after i saw a guy solo clutch a mal on zealot cuz of it

[cloud hazel]

it's a hilarious perk

[bronze gull]

it really is

[marsh gyro]

+3 stamina relic keeps on winning

[marsh gyro]

Hotfix today fixed the director being on vacation - the missions were spawning with like 1200-1500 dudes on normal mode instead of about 2000
Full notes here:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-33-1-2-32/92300

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> i crave shanking

[marsh gyro]

My melee psyker needs more melee for melk so I'll be on shortly

[bronze gull]

this worth anythin?

[cyan depot]

It's not bad

[marsh gyro]

Very good general use until you get a 370-380 one then you can rip the rank 4 blessing off

[cyan depot]

The Bloodletter blessing on eviscerators in particular is much weaker than the chainsword or chainaxe version but I think its ok because that one can cleave multiple targets

[olive tusk]

i could eat that, i think

(yes, but i think i'm just really biased towards stacking hit things because Spamming The Button Is Fun)

[bronze gull]

woman im pretty sure in the current state of your appetite i could place a 500 pound bomb in front of you and you'd swallow it whole

[bronze gull]

(this is true this is my preferred way to play zealot)

[olive tusk]

you're true........

[bronze gull]

i am going to make it routine to grab you by the shoulders, look you dead in the eye and ask you if you have been adequately increasing your calorie intake

[olive tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/marcoelprro-gif-27525382

[bronze gull]

besides just spamming the crap outta quickplay, how do y'all farm plasteel?

[cyan depot]

basically that

I find quickplay damnation to be most efficient

[quiet escarp]

Yeah regular damnation will give you the best combination of bonuses and consistently completing missions

[marsh gyro]

Quickplay damnation will result in 600-800 plasteel on a success and 200-250 on a failure and 150-250 diamantine on a win so it generally supports bumping guns to orange

[opaque crown]

if you can reliably complete damnation, thats the way

though if you cant!

you can farm

malice or heresy

really its just quick play whateve you're most readily able to win with

[bronze gull]

How do y'all like to build your melee on gunlugger ogryn?

[spiral badger]

Shovel.

More seriously, something that can clear hordes easily

[bronze gull]

Fair
I know I have trouble with carapace when I run gunlugger, should I just leave it to my team or can I work around that?

tactical shovel's special attack can help sometimes with that (esp cuz i have thrust on mine)

[spiral badger]

i usually run rumbler lugger

so i don't have armor issues

[drowsy vine]

The MkIV Krouk with Savage Sweep can both poke carapace to death and is great at horde clearing

Its your quickest melee option both in terms of dodges and attacks

If you get one of the new shovels, the Mk V, with very particular blessings (Thrust and Brutal Momentum), you can get it to a point where it can one shot Crushers with a fully charged heavy altfire

And the basic heavy is a very nice back and forth horizontal sweep

If you want reliable Carapace clear, those are your two best options without going Adhesive Rumbler

[bronze gull]

Thanks boss

Yeah, I need a good Adhesive Rumbler roll + I find the Alchys so much damn fun to use

Do I need Burst Limiter Override if I already have Charmed Reload on mine?

[drowsy vine]

Charmed Reload takes from your ammo pool, Burst Limiter doesn't consume an ammo period

I think it's nice to make your Stubber ammo go longer but it's personal preference between it and Feel No Pain

If you're not running a Stubber FnP is just the de facto choice

[bronze gull]

Ahhhh
If I take the BLO=crit keystone modification, will that mean it'll trigger charmed reload at the same time and therefore run me through my ammo faster?

[drowsy vine]

It will, that kinda just means you'll never need to reload, though

[marsh gyro]

Can opener ripper can solve carapace and is a great generalist gunlugger gun; 30% rending node makes the stubbers punch carapace good while kill is up (I stand by my typo)

For melee all the shovels and bully clubs are real good because they can punch most armor types without needing much support so you can use a blessing for toughness gain on chained hit or multi hit

Mk4 Cleaver also a nice generalist

On my ogryn if my gun's got a toughness blessing I take melee toughness nodes and vice versa

[bronze gull]

worth getting this from melk?

[bronze gull]

thanks for the advice, i'll keep my eyes open for a good roll

[cloud hazel]

I think it tides you over til you can get a Rashad

First Target is pretty rough to be dumping but Headtaker IV can easily be ripped

one of the BIS perks

[bronze gull]

BIS?

[cloud hazel]

best in slot

[drowsy vine]

Yeah

Can't argue with +25% power for playing the video game

[cloud hazel]

like if you whiff it resets and oh well

but if you're just hacking down 8 million dudes one at a time

basically free power up

[cyan depot]

Does it reset on whiff?

I thought it just timed out

[drowsy vine]

I don't think Headtaker is one of the ones that resets yeah

I believe the ones that reset on whiff are "repeated hit"

[cloud hazel]

ah

woops

[bronze gull]

What do y'all run with Krak nades on Vet? I feel like my crowdclear can suffer without frags

[marsh gyro]

Braced auto, recon lasgun, devil's claw, lots of good options

Both Infiltrate Vet and Mark Target vet can get big boss bonuses with improved kraks

[bronze gull]

I do have a very neat Devil's Claw roll

[drowsy vine]

heavy autogun is a fantastic generalist ranged weapon

It has respectable blowthrough, so crouching and hipfiring at a horde will kill a lot of dudes

[marsh gyro]

Kind of an off the wall krak pairing is Autopistol also has blowthrough and great maniac damage so great vs dreg ragers if you happen to have one

I'd probably run Power Sword if autopistolling

[bronze gull]

thanks for the tips

what should I look for on the sword, autopistol and braced autogun?

[drowsy vine]

i dont think the autopistol or braced are good options on vet

tbh

[marsh gyro]

What's neat is you can get braced auto hip accuracy with the infantry autoguns if running left side stance ability

[drowsy tusk]

braced is based

[marsh gyro]

Sword likes one cleave blessing and the other can be pretty much whatever - Shred for crit is nice, impact is nice

I run bolter, lucius helbore, shotgun, plasma on 4 out of my 5 vet loadouts and the 5th one flexes between infantry auto and braced auto and Infantry lasgun depending how much I want to aim so braced auto is lower priority than on Zealot

[opaque crown]

ive yet to make autopistol feel good on the vet

it can be absolutely fun

but it feels like im pissing in the wind sometimes

[drowsy vine]

I think its anthetical to what the class wants to do

even on a right side build it cannot hit anything at a distance

[opaque crown]

i mean, the shouty build isn't really specifically trying to snipe

the other two are sure

[drowsy vine]

Vet still wants to try and hit stuff at longer ranges by and large

[opaque crown]

in general terms yeah, but i don't think a cqc or crowd clear build is off the books

its a bit of a shame that the shotgun is perfectly usable at long range while the autopistol generally isn't tho

heck i wouldn't really describe the braced options as anything more than mid ranged

[marsh gyro]

Falter blessing got a very interesting wording update this past patch, it previously was 90% more stagger on weak spot hit - seems like it'll interrupt ragers and gunners more

[cyan depot]

Interesting

[bronze gull]

how's this for a roll

[marsh gyro]

That's a really good Mk7 to use off the bat - If you want you can swap Infernus for Dumdum for more power - the Mk7 is the one that has punch through and the slowest ROF so each crit is tougher to get to get Infernus stacks without Headhunter blessing

[bronze gull]

Looks like it'd be a good hordeclear weapon, then?

[marsh gyro]

Yeah poxwalkers and groaners will run up the deathspitter stacks quick - if you have speedload blessing that's a good one to slot in in place of Infernus

Not the most ammo efficient but handy at hipfire

[bronze gull]

Gotcha, thanks

im wondering if I should re-bless this with Carapace + Flak damage or just rip headtaker off and slap it on something else

[marsh gyro]

Probably easiest to replace bloodletter and block efficiency with Thrust or another power blessing and either flak or carapace

[bronze gull]

I do have Thrust III stored away somewhere

[quiet escarp]

Yeah seems pretty solid besides those two things. Good to hold on to even if you don't have a solid blessing to put on there

[bronze gull]

nice blessings on a pretty bad gun

[drowsy vine]

Like, the gun itself is bad or the stats are bad?

Cause those are honestly solid stats

[bronze gull]

gun itself isn't great
it looks fun but i don't think i'd get a lot of value out of the cowboy fire

and the total base states are a bit low

[limpid zinc]

Nah fan revolver is great

Stats are fine if you don't pull a better one

I'd swap speed load for hand cannon and idk perkwise

[drowsy vine]

The secret about the fan fire is it actually makes you more accurate

[opaque crown]

I think it loses love because it's not the other Revolver, but it's just that's its kinda got its own niche in the close and mid range

Instead of also being in the same pocket sniper niche as the other one

I find it's real handy against ragers

[marsh gyro]

What's nice about the braced revolver is it has more ammo so you can use it much more willy nilly and since I rate my mission results by shots fired, that's a win

[drowsy tusk]

Also speed loaders neat

[limpid zinc]

went and tried the vermie versus beta and god its a mess

i cant tell if people are rampantly cheating or if its just busted

[limpid zinc]

also god i just fell through a hole in a level and ended up stuck in an earlier part of it :v

[limpid zinc]

also playing for the first time in a month or so and:

• wow the performance got a lot better
• wow the ai feels a lot easier

[marsh gyro]

Yeah I was struggling to get 45 frames and now I can stay steady at 60-75 so that's neat

I've been trying lots of gear combos for kicks lately and it turns out Zealot with a Devil's Claw is actually a real cool thing because heavy swords are capped at 0% sprint speed so a high mobility Devil's Claw runs real fast by comparison and with a Impact and Cleave blessing you got CC for days

Devil's Claw needs a Revolver for carapace work though, unlike Heavy Sword which can do 1k on charge

[bronze gull]

not to mention the devil's claw parry is great for dealing with ragers

[marsh gyro]

I made an Autopistol Vet Marksman's Focus Executioner's Stance build because I just wanted to see how it'd go and turns out this thing carried me good in a High Intensity Hunting Grounds - can recommend highly with a foldable shovel friend mostly because the reload is fast enough to keep up Stance for long long times.

[opaque crown]

Oh?

I'm intrigued to give that Try

A try*

Enemies suppressed aren't staggered right? What's the synergy with your blessings?

I figure the suppress is great for keeping you safer in the mix

[mortal crystal]

Pinning Fire is easy damage as it stacks pretty much instantly as every bullet hit causes your standard enemy to stagger.

Terrifying Barrage is there as defense from melee attackers.

I've run auto pistol vet in the past with Power burn for similar reasons.

[acoustic wharf]

Fingers crossed
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/whats-coming-up-in-darktide/92572

[marsh gyro]

Itemization changes sounds interesting

[slender shell]

New cosmetics sound nice

[dawn totem]

Always appreciate new cosmetics. Btw, the new premium cosmetics look pretty dang good.

Also, the game itself has become a lot more manageable.

[bronze gull]

anything worth ripping off this?

[cloud hazel]

not really

[cyan depot]

Decapitator 3 is probably worth keeping

[cloud hazel]

I find it kind of finicky but I guess Finesse is maybe worth it since it's an RPM upgrade?

finesse is so weird

[cyan depot]

yeah its weird

It can let you mulch hordes pretty well though

[marsh gyro]

It's a very weird blessing because your hit has to do enough damage to 100-0 the enemy and it breaks stacks on any one hit that doesn't

On a Combat Axe I'd probably run Shred and Brutal Momentum and you still can get comedy builds with the power blessings

[dawn totem]

YouTube coverage of Darktide feels especially egregious. If you listen to them, Darktide is either "saved," or "broken."

Gotta get those views I guess.

[marsh gyro]

The Emperor HATES this one weird Cicatrix Maledictum!!!

[cyan depot]

It’s kinda… every game

It’s that or the stupid “when the devs have enough X to Y”

[marsh gyro]

Because I rotate all five build slots on each character I've started compiling my builds on GamesLantern in case folks want some ideas on stuff that works on Auric and is pretty chill; I've gotten my Veterans written up and plan to get my Zealot/Ogryn/Psyker written up in the next two days:

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/user/clemcuddlecakes

[dawn totem]

I just played about a day ago and the game has become more.... manageable? Aggressive still but not as sadistic.

[marsh gyro]

Yeah for a week the director was on vacation and patch 17 lined it back out

[opaque crown]

the internet kinda just be like this. Every take has to be to an extreme and assertive

Games are either A. Totally Broken or B. Actually cured cancer, war, and alzheimers all in one afternoon, with no inbetween

[bronze gull]

does anyone know a good substitute for mercy killer on a bleed knife? i wanna use a knife but i can't get a roll worth a damn on one

[bronze gull]

found a spare lacerate blessing lying around and slapped it on
Far from the most viable but stikl really funny, maxinum bleeding

[marsh gyro]

There's two knife archetypes - all the bleed or none of the bleed; a "all the bleed" knife uses any combo of mercy killer/lacerate/flesh tearer while a "no bleed" would use Uncanny Strike + haymaker/Executor/riposte

Executor stacks go away on bleed ticks is why you don't want it on a bleed build

[bronze gull]

Shit, is Haymaker that good?

[marsh gyro]

It's way better on the mk6 combat blade because it has the sweeping horizontal heavies and if you have a rank 4 haymaker it's a 20% chance per hit to instant KO ragers and maulers and whoever

I do run a hybrid mk6 knife with Mercy Killer/Haymaker on Veteran because right side Veteran gets bleed stacks

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b86d98b-0880-4b0b-a108-5777e28f0831/living-after-midknife-plasma-til-the-dawn

[bronze gull]

aw man, i had haymaker but swapped it out for even more bleed on my bleed knife

wait i had a mk iii nvm

what are the differences between the two anyways?

[limpid zinc]

mk iii has single target heavies and mk vi has crowd control heavies

both are great, the mk vi is slightly harder to do high single target damage with because of the sweeps not always hitting heads reliably, the mk iii is slightly harder to mulch crowds with

i think most of my knives have uncanny and mercy but idr

[bronze gull]

man i can't get mercy to drop at all 😭

been rolling knife after knife after knife off the peddler

no luck

ran outta plasteel at least 5 times this week

[marsh gyro]

Yeah for a lot of the weapons with big (8 to 10 instead of 4 to 5) blessing pools it's a long long waiting game from Melk usually to snag a specific rank 4

Mercy Killer blessing is one of those that barely scales and you only lose like 5% benefit if using a rank 2 so keep an eye out at the armory too

[opaque crown]

question, what counts as a salvo?

if i get more damage every 3rd and 4th shot in a salvo

does that mean every third and fourth shot period?

[marsh gyro]

The reticle has to settle back down; you can see this easy during hipfire

This means salvos with recon lasguns and autoguns take a little longer than expected to settle down and count as a new salvo

"Continuous Fire" or a salvo length also is weapon dependent timing so stuff like a kickback will account for reload time in a salvo while a stubber lets up bonuses right when the trigger stops

[opaque crown]

hmm so really no good for spraying and praying

[marsh gyro]

Yeah it's more for midrange pokes vs scab and dreg mooks and gunners

It's not a bad play on a Helbore lasgun since usually with the charge time reduction blessing you're throwing out 5 shots

[opaque crown]

clem on your autopistol build

did you run left side all the way down to the marksman's focus

or switch to middle or right side?

after taking executioners stance?

[marsh gyro]

Left side all the way - I literally took my bolter build below and subbed out for autopistol and foldable shovel

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b86a74e-6eb2-49b0-b525-f6e5cd110eb7/bolter-focus-stand-and-bang

[opaque crown]

lol

hows it work for you?

[marsh gyro]

I'm pleased with its high intensity performance

20% rending patches up autopistol performance good

[opaque crown]

ima give it a whirl with a few edits i think, ty

trying out starting kraks and middle

and veering left after kraks

[marsh gyro]

Yeah shredders vs kraks is a free space; Stance and Focus are the stars of the build

[opaque crown]

did pretty good on my test round

effectively went with a bullet hose all mission

only almost ran out once

and never used my ammo crate

a little lackluster, obviously, at dealing with more distant enemies

[marsh gyro]

Yeah as long as they can fit in the reticle you can hose them with stance up and shredder bleed stacks are how I close the gap

[bronze gull]

now that i've gotten the hang of knife zealot HELLL YEAH IT'S FUN

[bronze gull]

I FINALLY FUCKING GOT IT

for reference, here's my other roll: which one should i save and which one should i rip

[marsh gyro]

I'd bring the 380 to gold and see if you get a complementary blessing in the process and if you don't you can rip Flesh Tearer 4 from the 377 and slap it on the 380

Both are phenomenal knives

[twilit cradle]

<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for some runs?

[bronze gull]

i unfortunately did not, shame to bid farewell to an armory 380 like that but it's only a 3 point diff anyways

[bronze gull]

give me 40 mins to an hour

[twilit cradle]

[marsh gyro]

Yeah I can tide probably top of the hour

[twilit cradle]

we'll be in one of the vcs, then

[bronze gull]

might be joining tide vc in a few

just gonna stretch a bit

[bronze gull]

hrmmm

[bronze gull]

i've noticed the knife sometimes has a different inspect animation where you do cool little tricks, is it a rare by chance thing or is there a specific input

i did it twice in a row once and haven't been able to do it again i really wanna spam it for stimming purposes

[limpid zinc]

It's a rare random chance

Also it's client side only your homies don't see the spins

[bronze gull]

does this node work with stuff like Riposte and Precognition?

[marsh gyro]

It's a weird node, it works like the Psyker dodge on crit node where you're immune to ranged fire but doesn't proc any "when you dodge" blessings

[bronze gull]

Wait, it makes me immune to ranged fire when sprinting?

[marsh gyro]

Yeah but only when sprint sprinting so if you get stunned or stop to punch someone you resume getting blasted

It's kinda like Stripped Down blessing

A gun Psyker with the dodge ranged fire on crit node can trade fire with a room of shooters as long as the gun has ammo

Zealot is also immune to ranged fire while sliding so you can just slide around if you don't have the node

[bronze gull]

gotcha
do you use hold to slide or toggle slide

i keep getting a decent number of deadslides on both

DAMN, OKAY

[cloud hazel]

shamk

[opaque crown]

I need to try tac axe on the stabpsyker

Been running Sabre this whole time

[bronze gull]

does uncanny strike work off of backstabs or do i need to slice them in the noggin? so far it doesn't feel like the rending kicks in much

[marsh gyro]

It's on weak spot headshot stab

Rending is good vs Flak and Carapace so it's a anti-Mauler and Crusher tool

[bronze gull]

ugh, just had my night ruined by this really obnoxious guy passive-agressively shittalking me while the last man was trying to clutch

[opaque crown]

:/ I'm sorry that happened, people can be dicks online.

[marsh gyro]

The worst part too is to block a person's voice chat you have to go to the social menu which is difficult when swarmed by Mutants

[opaque crown]

itbh i think i just turned in game voip to 0 volume

[opaque crown]

can someone give me the tac axe breakdown?

on the different versions?

[marsh gyro]

They're by far my least used melee category because they need to crit to hit breakpoints and when they do crit they don't crit as hard as a knife

IIRC One of 'em swings down then up and tends to miss on the up swing, one of 'em is just downward swings, one is 45 degree swings; gonna test real quick which ones

[opaque crown]

much appreciated

wanna try crafting a decent one for my melee psyker

though also lookiing at combat axes

dunno if theyd be better

[marsh gyro]

Mk7 tactical axe alternates between vertical and 45 degree hits, Mk 4 is the down then up vertical heavies, Mk 2 is the 45 degree swings all day

[opaque crown]

i made a mk2 rashad axe for my psyker, ill give that a spin

currently has

[marsh gyro]

Combat axe is a lot easier to use on Scrier's Gaze / Distupt Destiny melee psyker because it hits break points easier

[opaque crown]

decapitator and brutal momentum on it, both at 3

[marsh gyro]

This one is my favorite with brutal momentum and Shred

Decapitator is real good too

[opaque crown]

i figure im fishing for nasty headshots at all times anyway

hopefully it goes well!

[marsh gyro]

You'll want a ton of toughness because melee psyker gets shot on the way in; luckily Scrier's Gaze helps with peril gen and quell to toughness

[limpid zinc]

the real shit is dueling sword melee psyk

[marsh gyro]

Mk4 for the stabby zoomies with a splash of uncanny strike is the juice

[opaque crown]

i generally use the dueling sword/sabre for stabby

but the axe felt like a fun change of pace

[spiral badger]

yeah the tac axes have been subpar for a while unfortunately

if you want a crit machine you go knife

if you want a reliable head remover you go regular axe

[mortal crystal]

<@&1042950387478560878> Playing 5s

[bronze gull]

ooo

[marsh gyro]

At the Smelter-36 repair finale, can join in 10

[mortal crystal]

kk

[split mantle]

we'll be on in ~5, if you aren't already in a mission by then

Micky (they/them) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883850562932826 message) <@&1042950387478560878> Playing 5s

[marsh gyro]

I just directly caused a mission wipe so we got room

[split mantle]

ooof

alright, on in a hot second

[bronze gull]

how do y'all like to build stealth zealot? i fucked around a bit with a "haha funny tf2 spy build" with a knife and revolver but im wondering if there's anything I should take if I wanna use it more effectively

[cloud hazel]

unironically likely one of the best loadouts for it

[brave kestrel]

yeah knife + revolver is very good with it

honourable mention to thunder hammers because there's funny things you can do with various blessings and a stealth backstab

[bronze gull]

nodding
I've tried this roll on it but unsure if it's a good one for stealth
Maybe I'm just playing stealth wrong

[marsh gyro]

I run Mk2 thunder hammer and marksman autogun and treat Shroudfield as a jankier charge for toughness regen and a crit, dipping right tree for backstab kill ability regen and going Martyrdom

[opaque crown]

Thunder hammer stealth zealot is the boss bonker supreme

[bronze gull]

hate how my damn brain works when it comes to even light toxicity in this game
some guy calls me a dumbass for (admittedly) a dumb play and i feel shit enough to consider uninstalling, ugh

[marsh gyro]

The important thing is toxicity ain't you

[opaque crown]

protect your peace yo, I'd really recommend turning off voice and if possible text chat too to shield yourself from it getting to you like that

[bronze gull]

maybe :(
It's a shame cuz I like it when rabdoms are nice and say silly in character phrases in the chat
I think today I was just in a bsd spot mentally

[marsh gyro]

Nice randoms are the best and that's why when I run catachan combat blade I always greet the party with "knife to meet you" and gauge the room from there

[tough compass]

How many people axe you a question after that?

[pallid tinsel]

i started on CS source and for the next 18 years i have never turned on text or VC in any multiplayer game

i am the peak of antisocial social gamer

[opaque crown]

i have a pretty thick skin generally, so a lot rolls off my feathers so to speak, but i know that's not an option for everyone. You gotta do what works for you to maintain your peace while you play yo

One of the things that gets me in multiplayer/pve games is like build policing -_-

[dawn totem]

Switching off voice is usually a good idea.

[marsh gyro]

After running a bunch of tests on Psyker and Zealot it turns out the Zealot can run a really good crit tactical axe since with the right nodes on left side Fury for 25% bonus crit you can get (5 base+5% weapon perk+12% tac axe bonus+30% bleed stacks+25% fury crit+5x4% Shred blessing crit) a whole lotta crits stacked with the zealot charge; the mk 4 tactical axe with the down then up heavies is easiest to steer

It's still way easier to run a Heavy Sword for like double the damage and you get to run fast this way

[spiral badger]

yeah that's almost exactly my heavy sword build lol

all the power, none of the wacky work

you just chop heads

[marsh gyro]

Yeah Headtaker + Deathblow on a Heavy Sword is an absurd amount of chopping

[bronze gull]

I'll be sure to keep an eye out for that roll, been meaning to give that thing a try

[marsh gyro]

Yeah Rampage and Perfect Strike are good blessings too; the cleave blessings are kind of overkill because they already hit 8 dudes a swing but it adds up good

[marsh gyro]

It seems like the secret sauce for the braced new revolver is the Trickshooter and Speedloader blessings and flak armor damage perk - with the reload speed buff you can keep trickshooter at 5 stacks though things get chaotic in crowds

Every bullet is precious though because even with the more generous reserves on the braced revolver it goes fast

[dawn totem]

Looks like we're getting a new update tomorrow.

[cyan depot]

Sweet

[wintry plaza]

How do you know?

[dawn totem]

I saw it set on my Steam for around 3:50am.

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> dard tidt rejecter?

[split mantle]

we can probably do a game or two

give us a Hot Minute™️

[marsh gyro]

Yeah logging in now

[split mantle]

i lvoe our gun with every disease

[grave talon]

what are thos ?

[split mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for a game or two?

[plush basalt]

Regular guns, but with the weapon customization mods, putting other parts on them.

So a columns, I think, and the regular revolver.

But the revolver also has a stock now, and so on.

[distant surge]

ZANGIEF

[split mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878>

[marsh gyro]

Oh dang, just wrapped up a session, will be back around at <t:1711929600:F> for the weekly reset

[split mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> Would anyone be up for some runs in about an hour?

[drowsy tusk]

Possibly yea

[olive tusk]

mmmay do?

dunno

[drowsy vine]

Honestly I might be yeah

[split mantle]

Perfect!

:)

[split mantle]

We'll be on in ~10 minutes.

[bronze gull]

Room for another?

[drowsy vine]

I do need to eat still, so I might pass on joining initially

[bronze gull]

@ me when we're vcing i need to use the wash rq

[split mantle]

We're on now, we'll be waiting in Activity 2.

@bronze gull

@olive tusk @drowsy tusk Are you two around?

[olive tusk]

unsure as of this moment, feel free to queue w/o me

[cyan depot]

wow

wild armor

[austere wadi]

Friend code 3492094283

[twilit cradle]

215816799

[marsh gyro]

New details on April 2024 update up on Steam, they're adding a bazillion penances and Tox Bombers
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4172096195384845504?l=english

[cyan depot]

The Personality Scourge
: players will have the option to change additional aspects of your operative (background, height, name, and voice) in exchange for ordo dockets.
fuck yes

No more needing grind a second character for a cool voice

[slender shell]

New puzzles, challenges, and collectibles: we are adding several puzzles across Tertium Hive for players to discover and solve.

now that's interesting

[lapis jetty]

Ill be excited to come back after my dragons dogma + helldivers months

in the meanwhile ill be ripping some of the warp voices for my lich in pathfinder

[thick rivet]

oh god tox bombers

fuck

[spiral badger]

GLOBADIER!

[austere wadi]

WATCH OUT FOR THAT GLOBADIER!

[dawn totem]

When it comes to these kinds of big updates, I tend to do a weird thing and delete and remake all of my operatives. 🤷‍♂️

[spiral badger]

that's mildly insane but I respect it

[drowsy vine]

W-why?

[dawn totem]

I think just to listen to a different set of voices with different names lol. I don't know, it's another way to keep playing I guess.

[drowsy vine]

Fair enough I suppose

[split mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> Is anyone around to tide in, say, 45-ish minutes?

[haughty ember]

oh huh

pkit double pings

[dawn totem]

It's nuts I know but it keeps me playing lol

[spiral badger]

good news, this update they're specifically making it so you can change voices and names

so you can do that without having to start over lol

[dawn totem]

Ah hahaha, that's helped out considerably.

[signal current]

I'd be down

[drowsy tusk]

im already playing if yall around

[split mantle]

We're on now. We'll hop into VC in a second.

[distant surge]

oh boy

i'll be able to change my psycher's voice soon!

i wanted the enforcer

but someone kept telling me i shouldnt cause he was a cop and then i didnt

which was silly of me...it's just a game anyway

[cyan depot]

Yeah haha

It’s 40k

You “work” for the secret police

[distant surge]

For sure we are part of the inquisition already

[lusty kelp]

Yeah all the characters are cops

Or at least the cops’ thugs

[cyan depot]

Even the most radical of the voice choices (loner psyker probably) is like “yeah I prefer being the boot to the human face for sure”

Something something how unjust systems make people culpable in them against their will something something

[soft summit]

The Inquisition is basically Space SS

[cyan depot]

I don’t think they’re super similar outside of post supporting the ruling ideolog… wait the inquisition doesn’t really do that… beyond them both being awful

[soft summit]

Fair I suppose

[distant surge]

Awful for different reasons

Still awful

Also

The hordo hereticus is probably the scariest one for normal folk right?

[spiral badger]

hereticus and malleus are probably about tied

xenos is definitely the least likely to kick down your door for no good reason

[cyan depot]

“Scariest” is tricky since normal people barely know about the Inquisition let alone that there’s more than 1 kind

[spiral badger]

but in terms of who is likely to show up at your door as a rando hereticus and malleus both might just show up

[soft summit]

Also they're more like ideologies than hard rules

[spiral badger]

xenos generally you have some warning signs

[cyan depot]

I’d say Malleus is the one to fear the most since “burn the whole planet, just to be sure” is much more SOP for them than anyone else

[soft summit]

If a Hereticus comes across xenos they'll deal with them regardless

[distant surge]

yeh

"Not usually my job....but "

[marsh gyro]

Is Malleus the Grey Knights?

[soft summit]

I believe so

[cyan depot]

That’s they’re chamber militant yeah

[soft summit]

(Which on that topic makes me curious how our characters have even heard of them, even as rumors)

[cyan depot]

They’re the anti-daemon and warp corruption ordo

I believe the cat is out of the bag for the GK since the battle of terra

[spiral badger]

similarly the hereticus have the sisters of battle

[cyan depot]

So most people now know they exist

[spiral badger]

and the xenos have the Deathwatch

[soft summit]

Fair

[spiral badger]

who are just as dangerous as the GKs, but less secret

[soft summit]

And the High Lords have the Minotaurs

(Yes I'm aware that's the head of the government not the inquisition)

[thick rivet]

What are the Minotaurs?

[soft summit]

An Astartes Chapter, known for probably being the personal hand of the High Lords

Chapter Master is a scary motherfucker, even by Chapterr Master standards

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/hnetdg/excerpt_regents_shadow_a_custodes_appraisal_of/

[opaque crown]

You know, on the earlier subject of the inquisition, it's a bit funny how an Inquisitorial rosette is so unquestioned in authority that a skilled swindler could fake one, and so long as k one who knows anything sees it and them, they're gucci

[marsh gyro]

They probably got a whole forge world of 'em

[buoyant apex]

I believe some books make mention of how Inquisitorial Rosettes have some kind of authorization thing or something

[distant surge]

i'm having a difficult time picking between "yes Sah! "ogryn and "yes big hero me!" Ogryn

i tried making mine a bit ago but couldnt decide

@drowsy tusk you shall helpe me pick

took to long

i'm the bodyguard