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cyan depot Jan 15, 2024, 9:05 PM

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I feel like not shooting allies would be easier if darktide maps were designed a little differently

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They're very confined spaces mostly

spiral badger Jan 15, 2024, 9:06 PM

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they're urban combat spaces and irl establishing firing lanes and plans of position is like, core to urban combat

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because of the exact problem that you don't have a lot of room not to shoot friendlies

limpid zinc Jan 15, 2024, 9:07 PM

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in another multiplayer game i play theres a lot of situations where im just sitting holding my gun going 🙂 while everyone else is in the line of fire

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unfortunately other players do not always return this courtesy

spiral badger Jan 15, 2024, 9:11 PM

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the other thing that's going to make vt versus very different than l4d versus is of course the fact that vt ranged is a sometimes food

cyan depot Jan 15, 2024, 9:11 PM

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spiral badger they're urban combat spaces and irl establishing firing lanes and plans of posit...

I don't think they're very similar actually, darktide maps are at once roomier than real spaces (albeit usually with confined distances for rendering reasons) but also you can't move well and the enemies gush through choke points with noclip on so it winds up being pretty confined in the places where you're actually supposed to be shooting

tough compass Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Is this for melee as well or just ranged?

limpid zinc Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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i cant recall if vermie has melee FF, i think its just ranged

spiral badger Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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no melee ff

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it'd be impossible lol

limpid zinc Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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yeah itd be messy

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its not like l4d where some dick can chainsaw your healthbar to zero

cyan depot Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Melee FF is pretty rare

spiral badger Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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you'd be clonking the dwarf with every sword swing

tough compass Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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I think it's less bad in Vermintide because shooting is less important and also the maps are pretty open, generally

cyan depot Jan 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Offhand I think Chivalry is the only game which comes to mind with it and people TK all the time with wild swings

lapis jetty Jan 15, 2024, 9:13 PM

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vt2 dwarf minigun was the shit

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my jam

limpid zinc Jan 15, 2024, 9:13 PM

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l4d has melee FF but l4d also has mostly pretty open maps

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chokepoints are present, but only one or two maps are focused on interiors

spiral badger Jan 15, 2024, 9:13 PM

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l4d also really doesn't want you doing a ton of melee

limpid zinc Jan 15, 2024, 9:13 PM

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yeah

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melee is for trash and if you're a sweatlord duking the tank

gentle flame Jan 15, 2024, 10:12 PM

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New Disrupt Destiny Tech

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Literally touch your target to refresh stack

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If you can interact with your target in ANY way that the game considers a hit (Soulfire ticks, block stagger with force sword, force push, any amount of damage) then the game refreshes your stack

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Doesn't add to it, just resets the timer

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Can't believe I just noticed it

cloud hazel Jan 15, 2024, 10:14 PM

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...huh

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what the hell

gentle flame Jan 15, 2024, 10:22 PM

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Also means that perilous combustion synergizes with DD better than I originally thought

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Halfway stagger on BB triggers the refresh too

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Any Stagger or Damage refreshes

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Venting shriek included

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This is garbage lmao

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It caps at 6 stacks

marsh gyro Jan 15, 2024, 10:38 PM

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You mean different Soulblaze sources have different stack caps?

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I know Purgatus goes up to like 15 or so

gentle flame Jan 15, 2024, 10:40 PM

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Yes

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Purg has cap at 15

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Tier 4 soulfire blessing on melee caps at 12

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Which is FINE

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but there isn't a cap mentioned for blazing spirit on staves

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which blows because it caps at fucking SIX

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cloud hazel Jan 15, 2024, 10:41 PM

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holy shit he's naked

marsh gyro Jan 15, 2024, 10:41 PM

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Yeah 6 stacks is a tickle

gentle flame Jan 15, 2024, 10:41 PM

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I think the warp has claimed my gun

cloud hazel Jan 15, 2024, 10:41 PM

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skinless revolver

blazing storm Jan 15, 2024, 10:42 PM

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gentle flame

lmao

blazing storm Jan 15, 2024, 10:42 PM

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cloud hazel skinless revolver

🅱️oneless revolver

cloud flint Jan 15, 2024, 10:42 PM

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caseless revolver

gentle flame Jan 15, 2024, 10:43 PM

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Friendly reminder: Sustained Fire is BROKEN and works on the first three shots of a salvo

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Have fun with a Sustained Fire IV Surgical IV Helbore

limpid zinc Jan 15, 2024, 10:58 PM

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gentle flame

44-50ish magnum

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hard to guess because i got tiny little hands

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and i think theres some creative anatomy happening to wrap that hand around the gun like that lmfao

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actually its bigger uhhhh

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probably somewhere in the realm of .500 s&w magnum but the scale is a bit sloppy

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looks about right

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ostensibly for hunting elephants with a revolver, practically more of a commercial flex to drive sales of other weapons and get publications to write breathless articles about how cool your company is

heavy geyser Jan 16, 2024, 5:29 AM

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.500 S&W is for like, alaskan bear emergencies

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I like how all the weapons are oversized like you're a little tabletop figure, the heavy laspistol especially so

soft summit Jan 16, 2024, 12:41 PM

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I mean given those things can pierce carapace armor

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Yeah I imagine they're pretty heavy calibur

gentle flame Jan 16, 2024, 3:55 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> darktime?

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I think it's not super useful, but it's important for developing a deeper understanding of darktide's mechanics. But y'all should know that the game calculated stagger as another form of damage.

So if you have 40 base stagger (like the second heavy attack of the MK IV Deimos Force Sword hitting a weakpoint) and you have a 1.28x first target damage multiplier plus a 2.3x finesse bonus, you're gonna inflict 117.76 Stagger

marsh gyro Jan 16, 2024, 4:05 PM

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Ah so that's why my plasma gun weak spot crits knock mutants out of the charge and not normal hits or weak spot hits

lapis jetty Jan 16, 2024, 4:51 PM

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@gentle flame

drowsy tusk Jan 16, 2024, 4:57 PM

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lapis jetty <@270784896228655106>

I don’t get it

limpid zinc Jan 16, 2024, 5:12 PM

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gentle flame I think it's not super useful, but it's important for developing a deeper unders...

You can also boost it with brittleness and other anti armor stats

limpid zinc Jan 16, 2024, 5:12 PM

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drowsy tusk I don’t get it

Psyker? I barely know her!

drowsy tusk Jan 16, 2024, 5:13 PM

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I got confused by numbers ngl

uneven field Jan 16, 2024, 5:14 PM

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settling into a rhythm on this build, and yeah. Mk6 recon las and an assault chainsword is the perfect setup for me.

drowsy tusk Jan 16, 2024, 5:47 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> appointment cancelled, tide time

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lapis jetty Jan 16, 2024, 6:37 PM

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opaque crown Jan 16, 2024, 9:08 PM

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i still cant decide if i like the gungryn with the gorganum or the achlys

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honestly the krourk is not a bad middle place

marsh gyro Jan 16, 2024, 9:08 PM

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Krourk's solid, I really respect it

opaque crown Jan 16, 2024, 9:09 PM

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the biggest thing is that hte achlys feels positively NIMBLE comparative;ly

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and the gorg feels has a solid punchy feel per every shot

marsh gyro Jan 16, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Achlys is the easiest one by far to hit 5000+ bullets fired in a mission

opaque crown Jan 16, 2024, 9:13 PM

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lol

drowsy tusk Jan 16, 2024, 9:31 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> dim current

drowsy tusk Jan 16, 2024, 10:14 PM

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lapis jetty Jan 16, 2024, 10:15 PM

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hey there sweet cheeks

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:23 AM

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opaque crown honestly the krourk is not a bad middle place

My honest opinion is the Krourk is fuckin awful

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It's the worst of both worlds - the biggest thing is the accuracy is completely dog

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:23 AM

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I can't say I agree with the times I've run it

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:24 AM

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The Gorganum can slap a shooter from 20m away, the Achlys has enough precision to do that from 30 or more

spiral badger Jan 17, 2024, 5:24 AM

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it's very much the worst of the stubbers

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:24 AM

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The Krourk you're lucky if you take 10 rounds to do the job at 15

spiral badger Jan 17, 2024, 5:24 AM

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it can work ok but it doesn't do anything gooder than picking something else

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Yeah it does nothing better than either of the others

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Big shrug, I've found it to be reasonably ammo efficient, and certainly not dog

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Also I wouldn't say the achlys is more precise than the gorg

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:25 AM

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The Achlys is 100% the most accurate stubber at this current point in time

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Really?

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Having just run both today

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I don't think so

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:26 AM

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If you crouch, brace and stay still it has very good accuracy

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:26 AM

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I don't play a lot of Ogryn but the gorg felt a lot more precise to me

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:26 AM

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The gorg is consistently more accurate at longer distances

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Both stationary and on the move

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:26 AM

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I'll test it rn, but I'm fairly sure I'm right

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:27 AM

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I ran both the gorg and achlys today, back to back.

spiral badger Jan 17, 2024, 5:28 AM

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yeah the advantage of the achlys is that it is functionally the ogryn submachine gun

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draws fast, reliably and quickly puts shit down up close

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at longer ranges you have to do much more controlled bursts which are fairly accurate but take more to bring someone down

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Only one I didn't run this afternoon was the krourk, but I've taken that into any challenge I've taken the other two into and come out ok with it

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Because I decided to harvest it for a t4 blessing

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:30 AM

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My vague understanding is that the breakdown was basically:

Achlys handy and reasonable to use the "carbine" of stubbers
Gorgonum the brass beast for darktide, also has like pinpoint first shot acc so you can theoretically snipe with it
Krourk: functional but doesn't really offer a compelling alternative, just splits the difference between two good extremes

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:31 AM

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Gorg also has like a bazillion knockdown/ stagger, which can work against it

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And very tasty punch through

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:32 AM

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oh is it one of those guns which knocks people down enough to mess up followup shots?

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:32 AM

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Yeah it can

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Meaning sometimes stuff survives

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I need to reforge a krourk to get a more modern view, but I certainly did not share the strong negative opinions here, I felt it did me rather respectably when I used it

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The gorg can probably be considered a gold standard for your traditional gungryn though

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And the achlys being a more active alternative

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:35 AM

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Honestly outside of a few weapons which are genuine stinkers most of the bad stuff is just "perfectly usable, but doesn't dominate a niche"

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And because of language polarization it winds up with the same language as stuff which is actually super bad

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:36 AM

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I feel like a lot of the "middle of the way" models of weapons can be great indecision picks

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:38 AM

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Some of them are great like the middle infantry lasgun

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:38 AM

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So these are the two tests I did

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I think ultimately the Gorganum is really accurate but it has enough deviation that missed shots can really affect TTK at longer ranges

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Whereas the Achlys has the accuracy and enough RoF to make that feel less impactful

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So uh

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We're both right, imo

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:40 AM

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I think first video cuts off early?

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:41 AM

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ah rats

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wrong one

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sadcowboy

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This is the right one

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 5:44 AM

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I actually gotta make a note gorg too just cause I have decent blessings but can't change my traits

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So I've got a new krourk and a new gorg on the queue

spiral badger Jan 17, 2024, 5:48 AM

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I think every weapon in the game is quite usable, and for the most part the bad weapons are just more awkward than their better equivalents

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Like how one of the ogryn knifes just has The Bad Moveset

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It still mostly works, but you have to do a bunch of hoop jumping to make it work as well as the others out of the box

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:49 AM

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cyan depot Honestly outside of a few weapons which are genuine stinkers most of the bad stu...

I think that's true of the majority of weapons for sure, but I genuinely think the Krourk's middle ground puts it really below the other two and it's not really comparable

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The recoil bloom is fuckin nuts

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:51 AM

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Yeah I remember fucking around with an admittedly awful one (sub 200 stats) and wondering why people thought heavy stubbers were good

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 5:51 AM

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The cursor doubles your spread inside of 8 rounds

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~~the true funny ranged weapon for Ogryn is the kickback, which consistently kills Snipers in 2 shots even at 45m~~

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 6:03 AM

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The kickback is nuts now

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 6:05 AM

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the Kickback is actually a real gun

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I love it

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Legit I think the Kickback being good will make Ogryn more popular with new players

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Since its what you start with at level 1

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At least, more likely to stick with Oggy

quiet escarp Jan 17, 2024, 9:07 AM

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drowsy vine ~~the true funny ranged weapon for Ogryn is the kickback, which consistently kil...

Honestly the Rumbler has really run me over as a fire and forget thing

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With a little practice it's very easy to bean a sniper, bomber, or even gunner from downtown and they're dealt with in a single shot

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At least with good stats/the brittleness blessing

drowsy vine Jan 17, 2024, 9:09 AM

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yeah the Rumbler is pretty choice on melee builds

quiet escarp Jan 17, 2024, 9:12 AM

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I haven't gone back to gunlugger since a few weeks after the update, I should try it again now that I have a good roll on my kickback too

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 3:38 PM

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the rumblr i think still dogwalks bosses wit the right blessings and build

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I've never run kickback on a gunlugger build, ive got it standard on my melee build tho

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I do like my ripper gun gunlugger build with light em up

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mostly useful as a boss shredder

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with flechette too

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the bleed + fire stacks with the reload buffs and critting and so on is a potent combo

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on the subject of the Krourk, I've run it semi frequently at the 500+ range and generally have found it fairly agreeable; I'm not generally trying to snipe with it of course.

marsh gyro Jan 17, 2024, 3:47 PM

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All the stubbers have like a 13-17m effective range before dropoff so it encourages close range anyhow

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 3:51 PM

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what ive personally noticed is that its a bit more ammo efficient when used as i would normally use my stubbers. I couldn't pinpoint why exactly that is, but i just notice i find myself worrying elss about ammo reserves with it

marsh gyro Jan 17, 2024, 3:52 PM

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Are you running Charmed Reload or nah?

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 3:52 PM

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uhh, i had been before i scrapped my current one, gotta make a new one and I probably will

lapis jetty Jan 17, 2024, 5:17 PM

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Good or nah?

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:17 PM

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its a 379 its good

lapis jetty Jan 17, 2024, 5:18 PM

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My god hadron

marsh gyro Jan 17, 2024, 5:30 PM

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The dream is real

hushed glade Jan 17, 2024, 5:41 PM

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Why does every Zealot I spectate play this game on 2000% sensitivity

cyan depot Jan 17, 2024, 5:41 PM

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might be windowdragging their melee?

gentle flame Jan 17, 2024, 5:54 PM

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lapis jetty Good or nah?

Kinda depends on what collateral controls

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 6:07 PM

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i keep wanting to love the recon, but it keeps asking me for so much

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i can at least push through and pull my weight though

tough compass Jan 17, 2024, 6:59 PM

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hushed glade Why does every Zealot I spectate play this game on 2000% sensitivity

Gotta go fast

limpid zinc Jan 17, 2024, 8:10 PM

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hushed glade Why does every Zealot I spectate play this game on 2000% sensitivity

waggleswings yeah. you can make you wide attacks hit extra enemies by swinging your mouse, it's been a mechanic since at least vermintide

hushed glade Jan 17, 2024, 8:12 PM

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Every zealot plays like a coked out movement shooter zoomer

cloud hazel Jan 17, 2024, 8:12 PM

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wooo ultrakill yea baby sliding love to slide wooo woo

limpid zinc Jan 17, 2024, 8:12 PM

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yeah I came here from ultrakill I'm just doing what hakita taught me

spiral badger Jan 17, 2024, 8:12 PM

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if you're not leanin' into yer swings yer not getting full value

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 8:29 PM

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i find myself continually coming back to the ironhelm

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to let me wham slam heavier elites inside a crowd

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i love me the eviscerator, but i find that to be a limitation, that it can't really do that

olive tusk Jan 17, 2024, 11:14 PM

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hello ritsu_salute

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man i got darktide on release and just. haven't touched it, ahah

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i really should

slender shell Jan 17, 2024, 11:17 PM

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Its good now!

opaque crown Jan 17, 2024, 11:37 PM

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can recommend

drowsy tusk Jan 17, 2024, 11:59 PM

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olive tusk man i got darktide on release and just. haven't touched it, ahah

Gaem pretty alright now and we have a decent crowd here playing it

uneven field Jan 18, 2024, 1:32 AM

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hushed glade Why does every Zealot I spectate play this game on 2000% sensitivity

because if I can't twitch a fraction of a fraction of a nano-inch and eviscerate five enemies in a second then I'm not getting enough dopamine

lapis jetty Jan 18, 2024, 3:26 AM

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@gentle flame I need your power point wisdom: Does thunderous apply the brittleness on all dmg procs from a chain weapons? Picture included

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 4:09 AM

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I don’t think it stacks if that’s what you’re asking

opaque crown Jan 18, 2024, 4:09 AM

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i dont believe the game makes each shutter from a shredder attack as a seperate attack

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 4:15 AM

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They'll get one chunk of 4 stacks of 5% brittleness from the whole special attack

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Goodest vs monstrosities, very good axe

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 4:15 AM

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I don’t understand why a lot of abilities like that say 4x 5% and and not “20%”

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 4:17 AM

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It's for blessing rank scaling

tough compass Jan 18, 2024, 4:23 AM

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That doesn't really seem to explain things? They could just say the resulting number

gentle flame Jan 18, 2024, 4:25 AM

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lapis jetty <@270784896228655106> I need your power point wisdom: Does thunderous apply the ...

Yes

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Unless it specifies a set amount

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like this does, so for this specific trait, no

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But there is the Talent that gives stacks of bleed on hit and brittleness on hit

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That WOULD work

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Still, brittleness synergizes well with DOT effects like bleed by allowing them to ignore armor lmao

lapis jetty Jan 18, 2024, 4:29 AM

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Yea on dam Im getting a rev light attack will headshot a crusher

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So I think its fine

drowsy tusk Jan 18, 2024, 6:12 AM

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all 3 flavors

lapis jetty Jan 18, 2024, 1:38 PM

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marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 1:40 PM

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Ogryn rock beating sniper needs to be the next in the series

gentle flame Jan 18, 2024, 1:49 PM

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lapis jetty

Literally me rn

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Playing a Loose Cannon vet

drowsy tusk Jan 18, 2024, 5:39 PM

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lapis jetty

why do you think yvonne has the augmetic eye

drowsy tusk Jan 18, 2024, 5:40 PM

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gentle flame Playing a Loose Cannon vet

gLaSs PlAy VeT!?!?!??!?!?!?! NOT CLICKBAIT GONE WILD IN 4K

gentle flame Jan 18, 2024, 6:39 PM

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Helbore Bayonet go brrr

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Literally level 23 stabbing chaos spawns for 1.3k

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 6:40 PM

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The fact you sprint faster while winding up the bayonet stab rules

drowsy tusk Jan 18, 2024, 6:43 PM

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gentle flame Helbore Bayonet go brrr

Wait holy shit he actually playing a different class I thought this was a bit who are you and where is the real glass

drowsy tusk Jan 18, 2024, 6:59 PM

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Anyway <@&1042950387478560878> I’ll be around for some editkrad in about 10 minutes

limpid zinc Jan 18, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Hello heroes,

Unfortunately due to a few technical issues we are going to have to delay the Versus Closed Alpha Test, and thus also delay the Stream that was scheduled for today.

We are sure to still hold a test and will update you all with the new dates as soon as possible!

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curb yr enthusiasm theme begins 2 play

drowsy tusk Jan 18, 2024, 8:01 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/byeah-jerma-jerma985-meeting-of-the-byeahs-gta-march-gif-14221033

Tenor

drifting prism Jan 18, 2024, 8:30 PM

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Byeah

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:27 PM

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Chainsword Psyker seems to be going pretty well, at least on Malice

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The base version is definitely better though

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 11:32 PM

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drowsy vine The base version is definitely better though

You mean the old chainsword compared to the new one?

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Yup

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New one I find kinda awkward and it doesn't have the horde clear power I want

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 11:33 PM

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Yeah the old one swings faster and diagonally and Psyker doesn't get a lot of attack speed buffs to help the new one

limpid zinc Jan 18, 2024, 11:38 PM

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the new chainsword variant is single target but the old one already does so much single target damage that its hard to tell the difference

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i feel the same way abt the knives, with the mk6 doing the mk3's job and more, but apparently everyone else disagrees

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 11:39 PM

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Mk6 knife is out of control with full Haymaker 4 stacks

limpid zinc Jan 18, 2024, 11:40 PM

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never looked too hard at haymaker

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:40 PM

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Yeah I'm levelling up my Psyker since it's the last class I need to get to 30 and using the Chainsword to see if my assertion that it's one of the best Psyker melees is correct

limpid zinc Jan 18, 2024, 11:40 PM

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its just one of the best melees period

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the psyker has some surprisingly good uniques tho

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tempted to try out a melee focused build with the dueling sword

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 11:41 PM

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It's doable

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:41 PM

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The boss damage is an especially big point for the Chainsword imo

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 11:41 PM

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Very "I am a genius oh no" because of how fragile you are

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:41 PM

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Since Psyker lacks there badly

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 11:42 PM

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But you do hella good damage even just mindlessly spamming lights

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 11:42 PM

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Bloodletter and Shred is a power combo

tough compass Jan 18, 2024, 11:42 PM

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I really like deflect + the talent on force swords though

cloud hazel Jan 18, 2024, 11:42 PM

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martial psyker with scryer's gaze is pretty real i find

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 11:42 PM

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limpid zinc never looked too hard at haymaker

The big horizontal sweeps on the Mk6 heavies work great with it

cloud hazel Jan 18, 2024, 11:42 PM

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laspistol + duelling sword with rightside talents go so fucking fast

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it's bananas

tough compass Jan 18, 2024, 11:43 PM

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I find the dueling sword locked to the psyker a bit weird, but I guess the idea is you have to be psychic to use it in two combat?

cloud hazel Jan 18, 2024, 11:43 PM

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psykers are pirates

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Psykers have a kind of precision + grace angle

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 11:44 PM

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I wanted a kineblade melee but I can't complain because Assail was basically that

cloud hazel Jan 18, 2024, 11:44 PM

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not hard to be precise and graceful when your competition is

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uh

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Loose Cannon Vet would mount a dueling sword as a bayonet

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Zealot they really wanted to lean in on "brutal, rough"

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Which is why they don't get it imo

cloud hazel Jan 18, 2024, 11:44 PM

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arthritic old man who won't stop complaining about cadia, taz the tasmanian tiger and john ogryn

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Lmao yes

cloud hazel Jan 18, 2024, 11:45 PM

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psykers and veterans are the only ones with any degree of training and vets are much more in the 'i am heavy weapons guy' category

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with relatively primitive and limited melee weapon spreads

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shuvil

drowsy vine Jan 18, 2024, 11:55 PM

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bonk

cloud hazel Jan 18, 2024, 11:55 PM

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shoval

marsh gyro Jan 18, 2024, 11:56 PM

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It's too bad you can't jump and shovel like Shovel Knight

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 11:57 PM

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I've been poking through the old Rogue Trader books and found this

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Which would be a real cool ogryn weapon

tough compass Jan 18, 2024, 11:58 PM

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Is that a sight on the front that is totally blocked by the mag?

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 11:59 PM

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I think the magazine is diagonal or offset

drowsy tusk Jan 18, 2024, 11:59 PM

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like a bren or AN94

cyan depot Jan 18, 2024, 11:59 PM

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But its still not aligned with any rear sight anyway haha

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I also like how there's all sorts of weird chunky sci fi guns and

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literally just the m1911

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The Emperor Knows

tough compass Jan 19, 2024, 12:03 AM

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I am going to imagine that's the brand

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 12:04 AM

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Now this is what we fuckin need for Darktide

tough compass Jan 19, 2024, 12:04 AM

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Why is it a crystal?

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 12:04 AM

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It's alien made

tough compass Jan 19, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Sounds like heresy

cloud hazel Jan 19, 2024, 12:05 AM

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when they put it into darktide

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they just have to port the needler directly into the game

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no comment about it being a crossover, nothing

limpid zinc Jan 19, 2024, 12:14 AM

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my back hurts

limpid zinc Jan 19, 2024, 12:15 AM

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cyan depot But its still not aligned with any rear sight anyway haha

trench sight 👽

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 12:33 AM

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cyan depot Now this is what we fuckin need for Darktide

Looks kinda like a weapon those long lost crystalline xenos from the FFG Rogue Trader would use

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 12:33 AM

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It does yeah

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I think its neat that some of the weapons are legit just in Darktide

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 12:37 AM

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Oh hey that's dope

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 12:39 AM

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Yeah I was surprised

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I knew Darktide was pretty high-fidelity with visual references but its weird seeing stuff that old show up

drowsy tusk Jan 19, 2024, 12:40 AM

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these -pants got no body hole

soft summit Jan 19, 2024, 1:31 AM

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"Hey buddy, missing something?"

drowsy tusk Jan 19, 2024, 2:12 AM

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it takes exactly 100 punches with a k ife to kill a crusher

drowsy tusk Jan 19, 2024, 2:36 AM

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or 23 on my melee vet build

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bleed carrying it hard

lapis jetty Jan 19, 2024, 4:04 AM

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Been really enjoying the vraks vii recently (vet), this one I got is great at killing almost anything with 1 shot. ~3-4 for mutants and ragers, ~6 for crushers

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and yes I tried marksmans focus and its way too fucking overkill

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 4:17 AM

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What difficulty?

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Cause I found Marksman's Focus helped me get over important breakpoints like gunner one shots on Damnation

lapis jetty Jan 19, 2024, 4:22 AM

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Damnation

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The consistant +15% damage from spot, 30% weakpoint damage, and 15% elite/spec dmg I think helps

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I usually spam the spot thing though

gentle flame Jan 19, 2024, 5:04 AM

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<@&1042950387478560878>

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gaming

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 9:55 AM

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<@&1042950387478560878> who up

glass marsh Jan 19, 2024, 10:03 AM

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Me, eventually

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I'll be there for some runs in about 5 mins

distant surge Jan 19, 2024, 11:59 AM

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omg it Jo vicksyPog

lapis jetty Jan 19, 2024, 2:55 PM

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drowsy tusk Jan 19, 2024, 3:48 PM

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lapis jetty

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

Tenor

alpine needle Jan 19, 2024, 3:58 PM

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There goes my hero 🎶

opaque crown Jan 19, 2024, 4:08 PM

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i feel like the meme art should be them all convinced of their carry from atop the ogryns back

olive tusk Jan 19, 2024, 5:23 PM

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i might get back to the game today, eheh

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really been meaning to for forever

marsh gyro Jan 19, 2024, 6:53 PM

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It's as good a time as any because the blasting's better than ever

olive tusk Jan 19, 2024, 7:13 PM

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may hop on tonight then !

buoyant apex Jan 19, 2024, 10:51 PM

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Are combat shotguns good?

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 10:55 PM

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yes

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they're better for zealot than vet though imo

marsh gyro Jan 19, 2024, 10:56 PM

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buoyant apex Are combat shotguns good?

They all rule in different situations

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 10:57 PM

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cyan depot they're better for zealot than vet though imo

I think Weapon Specialist Vet is easily the best user but it's with a pretty specific build

marsh gyro Jan 19, 2024, 10:57 PM

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The slug shotgun can handle carapace good in a pinch so having a carapace capable melee weapon is less important compared to the Lawbringer or Kantrael

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Weapon Specialist guaranteed crits are really funny with Man Stopper Blessing (increased cleave on crit)

buoyant apex Jan 19, 2024, 11:01 PM

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Okay, another question: When should I move up a difficulty?

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 11:01 PM

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as soon as you can

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the rewards are really nonlinear

buoyant apex Jan 19, 2024, 11:02 PM

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So, I'm level 5. Should I be going into diff 3 missions now?

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 11:02 PM

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Not yet

marsh gyro Jan 19, 2024, 11:02 PM

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Threat 3 will feel a lot better at level 10

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 11:02 PM

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I'd go to Malice at around level 12-13

marsh gyro Jan 19, 2024, 11:05 PM

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Threat 4 Heresy opens real early relative to how tough it is so once you can do threat 3 in your sleep then threat 4 will be 50% tougher and likewise threat 5 is 50% more beef than 4

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 11:10 PM

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I would leave Heresy till like 20+

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I feel the jump from Malice to 4s is a lot steeper than 2s to 3s

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 11:12 PM

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Yeah I agree

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I was able to start doing Heresy a lot earlier than normal on my ogryn though

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Just by running shield+taunt

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And getting carried

drowsy vine Jan 19, 2024, 11:14 PM

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Real

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Shield nicely mitigates shooters

drowsy tusk Jan 19, 2024, 11:18 PM

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If you have a buddy I’d say you can do heresy as early as like 8-10 but solo yea can wait

buoyant apex Jan 19, 2024, 11:25 PM

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I will say, I don't know how well it translates over, but I would say I won more often than I didn't in Cataclysm back in Vermintide 2

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Don't know if that means much, though

split mantleBOT Jan 19, 2024, 11:25 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for tiding?

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i want to commit violence 🥺

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with friends 🥺

signal current Jan 19, 2024, 11:26 PM

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Sure why not

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Haven’t played in a month so might as well

pliant skiff Jan 19, 2024, 11:27 PM

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Question for you darktiders

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Is it always online like Vermintide, and can it run reasonably on a 1080ti

limpid zinc Jan 19, 2024, 11:30 PM

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yes and yes

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currently running it on a 1660

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 11:31 PM

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split mantle <@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for tiding?

I can play a bit

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I use a 1070ti and it works fine

pliant skiff Jan 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Is there a spoofer for the server like they have with the new hitman games?

cyan depot Jan 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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no idea

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There's not much point in anything but the MP

pliant skiff Jan 19, 2024, 11:35 PM

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That's fair. I'm on satellite so I can't really do multiplayer or even single player always online

signal current Jan 19, 2024, 11:35 PM

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4558148862

limpid zinc Jan 19, 2024, 11:40 PM

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theres a mod for single player but i think it doesnt give you any progression

buoyant apex Jan 19, 2024, 11:43 PM

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1677065028

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 8:37 AM

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<@&1042950387478560878> gaming?

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👀

cloud hazel Jan 20, 2024, 8:44 AM

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drowsy vine <@&1042950387478560878> gaming?

DeepThinking

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I haven't played in a while, might as well

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 8:45 AM

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YEAH

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I'll b on in 5-10

cloud hazel Jan 20, 2024, 8:46 AM

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D2S_E_LETSFUCKINGOOOOOOO

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 8:56 AM

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@cloud hazel aite lets goooo

cloud hazel Jan 20, 2024, 8:56 AM

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gaminge

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 9:33 AM

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The Mk V Brute-Brainer is certainly A Weapon

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We love to kill 3 Crushers in one swing

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 9:41 AM

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drowsy vine We love to kill 3 Crushers in one swing

The Brutalest Momentum

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 10:08 AM

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Gorganum also continues to be incredibly satisfying

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 10:08 AM

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marsh gyro The Brutalest Momentum

Yeah it's nuts

grave talon Jan 20, 2024, 5:26 PM

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might be not meta at all but i love Martyrdom zealot

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 5:45 PM

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DPS-ing and Not Dying is super meta and middle tree Zealot rocks for that

grave talon Jan 20, 2024, 6:01 PM

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yay but i use the left skill

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 6:02 PM

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Yeah the zealot charge for infinite toughness goes great with a billion toughness damage reduction

grave talon Jan 20, 2024, 6:06 PM

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(i wanna go fast and hit even faster

drowsy tusk Jan 20, 2024, 6:21 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> bing bong

drowsy tusk Jan 20, 2024, 6:45 PM

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buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Is the Helbore any good if you can't hit headshots with it

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 7:28 PM

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buoyant apex Is the Helbore any good if you can't hit headshots with it

Yes because anything you can't headshot good you can shank in the face with the bayonet - while the headshot multipliers are out of this world, most mooks can be body shot good too

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The Veteran guns of choice if you can't headshot the best are the braced autos and the infantry autoguns and autopistol because they have the smaller headshot multipliers compared to the lasgun arsenal

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 7:30 PM

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It's the sight, I think

gentle flame Jan 20, 2024, 7:31 PM

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lapis jetty <@270784896228655106> I need your power point wisdom: Does thunderous apply the ...

I can't say for sure on chain axes, but I can for chainswords.

I gave you bad info. The special action does NOT activate the brittleness perk multiple times

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Sorry if I led you astray building something

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 7:32 PM

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(Also not a fan of the infantry autogun so far, because Emperor damn that recoil is absurd)

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 7:33 PM

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buoyant apex It's the sight, I think

Try using the Fire Wastes camo skin on the Helbore, it has a slightly different sight than the default Mk1/2/3 which may work better for you

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 7:34 PM

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buoyant apex (Also not a fan of the infantry autogun so far, because *Emperor damn* that reco...

If it was the Mk5 Columnus the recoil continues to be absurd, the good news is the Mk1 Agripinaa and the Mk8 Graia get more controllable

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 7:34 PM

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(It could also just be me coping for what is ultimately a Skill Issue)

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 7:39 PM

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buoyant apex (It could also just be me coping for what is ultimately a Skill Issue)

Stability stats make a big difference especially as you level up - early on there's a lot more sway

Using Veteran left side Stance ability and getting Suppression immunity node also helps

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 7:48 PM

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marsh gyro If it was the Mk5 Columnus the recoil continues to be absurd, the good news is t...

Actually this one is a Graia MK8

marsh gyro Jan 20, 2024, 7:54 PM

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A secret Veteran life hack is the left side Stance ability makes hip fire really really tight so some days I don't even bring up the sights

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 8:18 PM

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Another question! Recon lasguns; I've heard not good things about them.

cloud hazel Jan 20, 2024, 8:18 PM

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they require one extremely specific roll in addition to the standard 380 lottery

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they can work for counterfire vets but they absolutely annihilate ammo econ and their TTK can be kind of rough

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 8:20 PM

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sadcowboy

cyan depot Jan 20, 2024, 8:28 PM

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They’re good with the right build but you need the right build

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 9:10 PM

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Yeah you need Infernus 4/Headhunter 4 or its just kinda a bust

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 9:10 PM

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Yay I have a Bolter now!

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 9:14 PM

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It's a great weapon but you need to be prepared to deal with how clunky it is

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Because wow is it clunky

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 9:32 PM

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It is clunky, but also it feels good

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(Feels better than the Helbore did imo)

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Thing I've been experiencing:

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Damn, Malice is hard

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And I'm not sure if it's because I'm just bad/underleveled, or my quickplay teammates are dropping the ball

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No

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Please

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I don't like the Infantry Autogun

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but every time I have tried to use a different gun we fail the mission

limpid zinc Jan 20, 2024, 9:49 PM

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lots of good guns u can take with similar roles

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braced and headhunter for crowd and single target, revolver if you need to delete singular specials, plasma if yr on vet as a do almost everything button

cloud hazel Jan 20, 2024, 9:56 PM

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the inf lasguns are semi auto shooter deleters

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Don't have plasma guns unlocked yet, unfortunately

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 10:26 PM

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buoyant apex I don't like the Infantry Autogun

I highly recommend not holding down the trigger for the inf autoguns, you want to burst in sets of 4-5 rounds or tap fire

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If you do full auto, the pull is a sharp upward motion but it evens out after about 15 rounds

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 10:26 PM

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I can't even 2-round burst

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It just goes off target instantly

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 10:27 PM

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What's your stability stat?

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And where are you aiming?

buoyant apex Jan 20, 2024, 10:28 PM

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Don't know what my stability stat is, and aiming kinda at their head?

drowsy vine Jan 20, 2024, 10:28 PM

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On the gun, Stability is a stat

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I find on the inf autoguns you want to aim around chest/sternum height if you aren't tapfiring - the recoil will pull your shots up and to their head

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Its sharp recoil but its very predictable

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Unlike the Inf Lasguns where its kinda just bouncy

cloud hazel Jan 20, 2024, 10:30 PM

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if you yank straight down you can get it to basically hold still

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 12:33 AM

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cyan depot Jan 21, 2024, 12:33 AM

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peeven

distant surge Jan 21, 2024, 1:05 AM

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i love that

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also something i do whenever i encounter a party of Ogryns

white rover Jan 21, 2024, 7:09 AM

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I got an animation bug that lets me see the kickback shells and I'm happy they're just upsized shotgun shells

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Just feels right for 40k

cyan depot Jan 21, 2024, 7:14 AM

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perfect

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 3:51 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> ogryn gaming for real atoman orgyns

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 4:02 PM

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white rover I got an animation bug that lets me see the kickback shells and I'm happy they'r...

Got that .07 gauge (I did the math)

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i found him

opaque crown Jan 21, 2024, 4:11 PM

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You know it's wild to me that the plasma is less clunky than a bolter

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When a plasma is, lore wise anyway, a more temperamental, powerful, and specialized weapon

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But the bolter in game takes longer to swap to, is less accurate after first shot, has less penetration, and has less hip fire accuracy

dawn totem Jan 21, 2024, 4:29 PM

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Wouldn't surprise me to see the Bolter get a rework, to make it stand out more from Plasma..

marsh gyro Jan 21, 2024, 4:29 PM

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Bolter's deal is you can shoot 15 times in a row without overheating while Plasma has to space it out - it's more forgiving of misses

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Also Inspiring Barrage is an absurd rank 4 blessing and I recommend folks give it a spin

dawn totem Jan 21, 2024, 4:34 PM

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A full barrage of a Bolter on a Marked Monstrosity can do a shocking amount of damage.

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 4:36 PM

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i love bolter

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deffo more on vet for the less clunky handling

mortal crystal Jan 21, 2024, 4:43 PM

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Don't forget that while the plasma is ridiculously powerful it has the giant ass reload and the heat mechanic. forget about either one at your peril.

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The bolter is also much easier to use in a panic situation as it will stagger a crowd of anything while a plasma needs a second to chew through them (albit all at the same time)

dawn totem Jan 21, 2024, 4:50 PM

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Haha, I always have at least one panic movie with all my builds.

tough compass Jan 21, 2024, 5:44 PM

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Best panic button is yelling at people

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 5:51 PM

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big man matching my outfit

dawn totem Jan 21, 2024, 6:12 PM

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Aw man, how awkward. One of you is going to have to go change.

dawn totem Jan 21, 2024, 6:33 PM

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I have to take a serious sabbatical away from Darktide mostly due to my Internet connection being real spotty with maintaining connections. Not sure if it's due to the weather.

buoyant apex Jan 21, 2024, 6:34 PM

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sadcowboy

marsh gyro Jan 21, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Packets getting lost in the Warp

buoyant apex Jan 21, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Gotta get yourself a new Astropath

dawn totem Jan 21, 2024, 6:38 PM

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Lol, reminded how Astropaths are pretty much treated like spark plugs in the Imperium.

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 7:31 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> stcejer editkrad

split mantleBOT Jan 21, 2024, 7:32 PM

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we'll be on in ~10

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 7:37 PM

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split mantle we'll be on in ~10

hek yea

hushed glade Jan 21, 2024, 8:51 PM

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drowsy tusk big man matching my outfit

"Nyeah sure thing boss" behavior

marsh gyro Jan 21, 2024, 9:06 PM

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New record set for shots fired, 7.5k in 27 minutes with the Accatran 6d Recon Lasgun

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 9:09 PM

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marsh gyro New record set for shots fired, 7.5k in 27 minutes with the Accatran 6d Recon La...

https://tenor.com/view/metal-slug-soldier-metal-slug-soldier-mini-gun-run-mini-gun-run-gif-23928172

Tenor

heavy geyser Jan 21, 2024, 9:47 PM

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little allen junior

buoyant apex Jan 21, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Hmm okay

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 10:42 PM

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after a truly unbelievable ammount of brunt gatcha i got this

buoyant apex Jan 21, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Which of the two is better would you say?

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I think the first one?

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 10:43 PM

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first one slightly

buoyant apex Jan 21, 2024, 10:44 PM

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(Mostly I'm asking so I can start learning what makes a weapon good)

marsh gyro Jan 21, 2024, 11:28 PM

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It turns out right clicking on the loadouts lets you set icons

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 11:29 PM

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soft summit Jan 21, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Me and the boys

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 11:54 PM

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marsh gyro Jan 21, 2024, 11:55 PM

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Some days the stars line up and you get to shoot 1000+ ripper shots

It turns out when lucky bullet procs on the Ripper the whole burst is free

drowsy tusk Jan 21, 2024, 11:57 PM

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"gift" from the emperor

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limpid zinc Jan 22, 2024, 12:31 AM

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buoyant apex (Mostly I'm asking so I can start learning what makes a weapon good)

You can roll a max of 380 on base stats, spread across five stats that themselves max at 80

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Generally you want desirable stats as close as possible to 80 and there's usually a dump stat that you don't have to sweat

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A common dump stat for a lot of weapons is mobility, which only needs to be higher than 51%, but it varies from weapon to weapon and the best way to figure out which stat is a dump stat is to hit v, examine the stats individually, and make your own judgement call

spiral badger Jan 22, 2024, 12:32 AM

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(the weapon that probably has both high stat dependency and a hard choice on dump stats is likely the plasma gun)

limpid zinc Jan 22, 2024, 12:33 AM

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Yeah some weapons make you sweat and others it's a no brainer

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You won't really roll anything close to 380s before hitting the level cap at 30, so the general advice is to use whatever has big numbers and looks interesting until then

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I don't recommend spending your plasteel or diamantine on sub-30 weapons

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Once you hit level 30 you wanna look for weapons as close as possible to 380 on base stats and with high desirable stats, usually focusing on weapons with a base stat of 360+ to bother upgrading and scrapping the rest for a rebate on your spent gold

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Perks and blessings get more complicated and messy but generally what you want to focus on is breakpoints, meaning the number of hits it takes to kill a given type of enemy, and uptime, meaning how frequently the blessing/perk will be benefitting you

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So for example, say you take a chainsword into the meat grinder and find that it almost, but not quite, kills a damnation rager in one hit. You'll add maniac for the naked rager and flak for the armored rager to make it a one hit kill

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Blessingswise you'll probably be focusing on blessings that directly increase power/damage, cleave, or armor penetration

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And you'll want to prioritize blessings that will be "up" as much as possible. So e.g. if you have two blessings and one gives a bonus when you hit 3 enemies and the other gives a bonus on critx you wanna think about whether you're going to be smacking three dudes or rolling crits more and making your decision accordingly

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You might prioritize other perks and blessings according to build considerations but by the time that's relevant you'll probably be in a place to make a solid decision on your own. For example, I run a zealot build that focuses on getting crits a lot, which gives me cool down reduction, which gives me more ults to use, so on SOME melee weapons I choose crit chance or damage, or weak spot damage, because I anticipate that it will give me the most benefit, based on other factors I'm considering

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This is based also on going into the meat grinder and smacking things a lot to determine if I'm more concerned about breakpoints via armor damage, via weakspot hits, via crits, etc

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This is going into a territory of sweat you probably don't need to worry about until you decide to start beating your head against the auric wall, so if it sounds insane, don't sweat it lol

marsh gyro Jan 22, 2024, 12:44 AM

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I like mobility stat more than I woulda thought these days because several guns the difference between 60% mobility and 80% is 18% sprint speed and I gotta go fast

limpid zinc Jan 22, 2024, 12:46 AM

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I'm a mobility apologist but I can't deny that more damage is usually better than more speed

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But I do like more speed

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I saw someone on the forums complaining that high mobility "invalidates the intended pace of the game" because you can more effectively zone enemies which

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lol, lmfao

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I run almost as much speed boost as I can on zealot and the ability to turn around and sprint away to pick someone up, or make space, or split up a pack, is definitely formidable in a way that just looking at the numbers doesn't make apparent but that takes hours and hours in the game to start seeing so

split mantleBOT Jan 22, 2024, 1:16 AM

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<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for a tide or two?

drowsy tusk Jan 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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Why not gimme a minute

buoyant apex Jan 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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Maybe in like, an hour or two but...

split mantleBOT Jan 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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we just want to hang out and relax for a while

buoyant apex Jan 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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S'all good

signal current Jan 22, 2024, 1:30 AM

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I have to do some school stuff but can join in a bit if you guys still have room

signal current Jan 22, 2024, 3:25 AM

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cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 3:26 AM

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yaaaaaaaay

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I would heavily advise keeping this roll around just to rip the perks off it, assuming this is yours

signal current Jan 22, 2024, 3:27 AM

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It is

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 3:28 AM

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👍

signal current Jan 22, 2024, 3:30 AM

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4558148862

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:27 AM

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signal current

tbh, Surgical is going to be the optimal rip here, not just because it's tier 3, but because it's just more impactful

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Beyond that, if you dig the Zarona Revolver, I'd highly reccommend looking for one that favors Damage, Penetration, and Critical Bonus for the most damage possible. Though if the Reload speed is too low, it's gonna feel bad without reload speed boosting talents (Vet only I think)

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:29 AM

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hand cannon is obscenely impactful but not at ii

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zealot can get the stacking reload boost with melee kills

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:35 AM

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cloud hazel hand cannon is obscenely impactful but not at ii

Ehhhhh, it's good, don't get me wrong. It's just not THAT good. It'll help you reach the occasional breakpoint assuming you crit. Which practically guarantees that the other perk is either Surgical or Roulette (Different playstyles but I think that Surgical is definitely better for almost every build).

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But with a good zarona, those breakpoints aren't reached without talent based buffs

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Like, HC literally shortens the shots to kill on a crusher by 1

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But with SG and DD, it literally lets me one shot them

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:36 AM

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I guess I just don't know why you would pick the revolver without hc/crit

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it's what gives it the niche compared to just rocking a grippy auto or the battle rifles

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:38 AM

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Ehh, Sustained Fire 4 is nuts rn

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It's bugged and applies to the first 3 shots of any salvo

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with a 0.3 second CD period

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:39 AM

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is this available on the zarona or is this in reference to the autoguns

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:40 AM

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ALL

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ANYTHING with Sustained Fire 4

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Helbore Lasgun

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Zarona

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Voidstrike staff

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EVERYTHING

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Free 20% damage

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:41 AM

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I feel like it's probably not wise to rank things depending on bugs considering they've fixed more minor and less ludicrously breaking ones like the Lucius bayonet

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goofy ahh bug though

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:42 AM

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Bayonet is bugged?

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:43 AM

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the bayonet shank used to proc certain things, I do not recall off the top of my head

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:44 AM

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Was it counting as a ranged attack?

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:44 AM

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somehow

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or actually no it was benefiting from the perks of your melee weapon

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:44 AM

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I can't find any reference to the bayonets being bugged outside of bayonet charge not working

signal current Jan 22, 2024, 5:44 AM

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gentle flame tbh, Surgical is going to be the optimal rip here, not just because it's tier 3,...

I’ll rip it when I level up enough to where it’s not the best hand cannon I have

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:44 AM

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Ahh, that could be the case

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:44 AM

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so you would have a haymaker bayonet that just randomly instakilled things etc

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:44 AM

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lmao

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Think Mercy Kill Uncanny Strike Would pair well on vet

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1 Bleed on hit, 30% weakspot, %weakspot on ability use

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60% WS against bleeding

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Rend on WS

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:46 AM

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Mercy Kill Uncanny Strike is just generally pretty good on shamky vet

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:46 AM

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Bleed stacks with rend, ect

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 5:46 AM

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Zealot mains would actually sell their houses for 100% bleed chance on melee

gentle flame Jan 22, 2024, 5:50 AM

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Lmaooo

drowsy tusk Jan 22, 2024, 11:24 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/tokkiehan-jeongtxt-creditcard-slamming-card-card-slam-gif-22083793

Tenor

glass marsh Jan 22, 2024, 12:28 PM

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cloud hazel Zealot mains would actually sell their houses for 100% bleed chance on melee

You're god damn right I would

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Bob should bleed everyone

distant surge Jan 22, 2024, 5:57 PM

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blood

opaque crown Jan 22, 2024, 8:41 PM

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I do almost feel like the hand cannon still overpresents in the current "meta" so to speak

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even after its nerf

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the draw speed, precision, and general lethality really carry it

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but i have no idea how I'd nerf it and still have it feel satisfying since it alreay has a microscopic magazine size

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and long ass reload

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 8:49 PM

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it's a little pushed but not in a way that's crazy unhealthy for the game

limpid zinc Jan 22, 2024, 8:56 PM

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the revolver is balanced by its ammo pool just fine imo

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as soon as you need to fire a 6th shot the deeps drops off a cliff

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also i just had a run with like the first ever vet ive seen not using scav

drowsy vine Jan 22, 2024, 9:19 PM

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Fatshark is back from their holidays right?

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Hopefully we'll see a new patch sometime in Feb

limpid zinc Jan 22, 2024, 9:35 PM

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just had a bug where my d key stopped working for a second 😰

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on auric 😰 😰

lapis jetty Jan 22, 2024, 9:35 PM

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thank god i use arrow keys to move

limpid zinc Jan 22, 2024, 9:35 PM

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ppl still do that?

lapis jetty Jan 22, 2024, 9:36 PM

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did i need to include /s

limpid zinc Jan 22, 2024, 9:36 PM

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honestly im sure theres a few quake boomers who would tell you insistently that its the superior input

cloud hazel Jan 22, 2024, 9:38 PM

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seems ok for left handed mouse users

split mantleBOT Jan 23, 2024, 12:32 AM

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<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for a few runs?

olive tusk Jan 23, 2024, 1:10 AM

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possibly, if you wouldn't mind a complete newbie?

olive tusk Jan 23, 2024, 1:10 AM

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split mantle <@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for a few runs?

i don't know how the game balances disparate levels

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(if that'd just be Boring, of course, then no worries)

signal current Jan 23, 2024, 1:11 AM

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You’ll be a bit squishier but it shouldn’t be too bad

olive tusk Jan 23, 2024, 1:14 AM

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ahhh, i wouldn't wwanna be a pain ahah

signal current Jan 23, 2024, 1:15 AM

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Join PlantGun

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This is not a request

olive tusk Jan 23, 2024, 1:17 AM

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!!

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BocchiBwaa

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gimme a few

signal current Jan 23, 2024, 1:43 AM

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Axe :3

olive tusk Jan 23, 2024, 3:09 AM

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how would i go about making a good Gun Zealot?

marsh gyro Jan 23, 2024, 3:15 AM

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What's cool about gun zealot is only like three nodes on the tree care about ranged attacks specifically and 2 of them are the top middle ones for 25% gun damage at close range and infested/unyielding damage and the 3rd is the ranged backstabs and that's skippable

Run zealot charge x2 for the gun armor piercing and then you can literally run whatever bottom tree you like (fury gives crits which is good and momentum gives all damage which is good and martyrdom gives all attack speed which is good)

drowsy tusk Jan 23, 2024, 3:54 AM

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Flamethromer

drowsy tusk Jan 23, 2024, 5:54 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> reject darktide, embrace also darktide

drowsy tusk Jan 23, 2024, 6:17 PM

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drowsy tusk Jan 23, 2024, 7:22 PM

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olive tusk Jan 23, 2024, 8:46 PM

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i have finally finished my essays so i may peek in for darking the tide every now and again

drowsy tusk Jan 23, 2024, 9:27 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878> i am once again pining you poor fools to cpme play tide tide with ya boy

buoyant apex Jan 23, 2024, 9:30 PM

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...

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Maybe

signal current Jan 23, 2024, 10:19 PM

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4558148862

olive tusk Jan 23, 2024, 11:25 PM

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might join yall in a soon

drowsy tusk Jan 23, 2024, 11:30 PM

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i found it, the turbocritter

olive tusk Jan 24, 2024, 12:28 AM

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ah, yall have 4, nvm

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ahh etoo

lapis jetty Jan 24, 2024, 12:47 AM

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drowsy tusk Jan 24, 2024, 12:47 AM

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olive tusk ah, yall have 4, nvm

we have a spot open

olive tusk Jan 24, 2024, 12:47 AM

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o!

drowsy tusk Jan 24, 2024, 1:04 AM

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lapis jetty Jan 24, 2024, 4:12 PM

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by the god emperor, is it finally time to knife zealot?

drowsy tusk Jan 24, 2024, 4:36 PM

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god i wish i could dress like this

lapis jetty Jan 24, 2024, 5:28 PM

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I just heard a convo of a zealot and vet trying to sing to each other???

drowsy tusk Jan 24, 2024, 5:37 PM

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sometimes ya just want more oggy

drowsy tusk Jan 24, 2024, 5:39 PM

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lapis jetty I just heard a convo of a zealot and vet trying to sing to each other???

theres also a convo between hallowette and hadron

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aobut singing

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brawler quotes i think about

drowsy tusk Jan 24, 2024, 6:09 PM

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i am the teacher disguised as the student

dawn totem Jan 24, 2024, 7:51 PM

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Greetings fellow criminal-types! Where might we engage in some crime?

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Good news, we're planning to get a more stable 50mbps connection so I might be back surfin them tides 🤙🏄‍♂️

limpid zinc Jan 24, 2024, 8:21 PM

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lapis jetty by the god emperor, is it finally time to knife zealot?

Pretty good. Swap off precog and the other swap is a free space

alpine needle Jan 24, 2024, 8:32 PM

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drowsy tusk i am the teacher disguised as the student

I really loved this feeling on low level psyker

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Having 4 level 30s is actually so fun. And I finished right as the burnout was starting to set in and now I'm back baby.

drowsy vine Jan 25, 2024, 1:39 AM

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<@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for some games?

drowsy vine Jan 25, 2024, 1:55 AM

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rats sadcowboy

marsh gyro Jan 25, 2024, 1:55 AM

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I can boot up in five minutes with my melee Vet

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Mk6 new knife is the high risk high speed zoomies that Chaos can't contain

cyan depot Jan 25, 2024, 2:05 AM

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drowsy vine <@&1042950387478560878> anyone up for some games?

I’m home now - can play some

drowsy vine Jan 25, 2024, 2:06 AM

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I might be up for some in a bit but I've also realised I'm quite hungry and should eat lunch, lol

marsh gyro Jan 25, 2024, 2:07 AM

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Food for the food god, scones for the scone throne

gentle flame Jan 25, 2024, 4:37 AM

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HI Power Outage Damnation is so fucking fun

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Especially as DD psyker

drowsy tusk Jan 25, 2024, 5:35 AM

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<@&1042950387478560878> night tide

limpid zinc Jan 25, 2024, 11:28 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/19f5yap/commodores_vestures_of_january_25th_2024_march_7th/

From the DarkTide community on Reddit: Commodore's Vestures of Janu...

Explore this post and more from the DarkTide community

quiet escarp Jan 25, 2024, 11:51 AM

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Unsure how I feel about the trend of Zealot clothes just being veteran ones but with candles on them, though I guess while they theme line ups after regiments it's kind of a given

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Also this cycle doesn't really feel like it deserves the John Darktide gold seal and price increase, even if I actually like them better than the previous round that did

cyan depot Jan 25, 2024, 3:37 PM

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Savlar?

lapis jetty Jan 25, 2024, 3:58 PM

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Who?

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Better pic for those at work

cyan depot Jan 25, 2024, 4:02 PM

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Those look kinda like savlar chem dog skins

distant surge Jan 25, 2024, 4:22 PM

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gib vostroyan vicksyRaid

drowsy tusk Jan 25, 2024, 4:41 PM

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ya know i was thinking that all vet parties was becoming less of a thing and more team diversity was happening but then this happens

marsh gyro Jan 25, 2024, 4:43 PM

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4 the Guard

grave talon Jan 25, 2024, 4:44 PM

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lapis jetty Better pic for those at work

when the zaealot is a reall meth head

lapis jetty Jan 25, 2024, 5:05 PM

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i buy'd it

drowsy tusk Jan 25, 2024, 5:11 PM

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marsh gyro Jan 25, 2024, 5:15 PM

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8.5% reload speed on Plasma gun saves you 2 years each mission so that's a win

mortal crystal Jan 25, 2024, 5:42 PM

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Tbh learn the reload cancel for it.

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It's such a huge improvement

marsh gyro Jan 25, 2024, 5:43 PM

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Yeah that last 40% of it can get shaved right off with the right sprint timing

drowsy tusk Jan 25, 2024, 6:49 PM

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@lapis jetty @lapis jetty TIDE TIDE @lapis jetty @lapis jetty

drowsy tusk Jan 25, 2024, 7:05 PM

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lapis jetty Jan 25, 2024, 10:48 PM

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Has anyone here played Dark Heresy 2e? Looking to get a game going with my group and was wondering how it played

cyan depot Jan 25, 2024, 10:50 PM

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I've played a little bit

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I'm more familiar with 1e but its pretty similar

lapis jetty Jan 25, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Did you use a VTT? There is an unofficial Foundry one which looks like my best bet

cyan depot Jan 25, 2024, 11:01 PM

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Sorry - I played in person

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I would probably recommend Foundry anyway though

lapis jetty Jan 25, 2024, 11:02 PM

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Yea I'll have to take a look, I've got a couple months to write and get stuff ready while we finish our 4 other campaigns

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(we do 2 a week)

buoyant apex Jan 25, 2024, 11:04 PM

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lapis jetty Has anyone here played Dark Heresy 2e? Looking to get a game going with my group...

There's a Warhammer Forum over in tabletop, might be people in there who have played?

lapis jetty Jan 25, 2024, 11:04 PM

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ooh good idea, thanks

drowsy tusk Jan 25, 2024, 11:06 PM

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bronze gull Jan 26, 2024, 1:15 AM

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Heya folks that play this game, I am considering getting it while it's on sale but I wanna know a few more things about it
I played the closed beta back when that was a thing and I had a pretty good time, so I think I've got a decent grasp on the moment by moment gameplay of it
But I'm curious about the progression and early game given that there's a lot of RNG involved with equipment rolls and stuff, how much of a time investment is it and is it relatively easy to learn what I'm looking for?

marsh gyro Jan 26, 2024, 1:42 AM

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What's nice about the RNG is there's a bunch of ways to tilt it in your favor by rerolling perks and blessings and the options are all real competitive with each other that everything's usable

You'll level up fast enough you can just buy new gear from the shop and it won't be til level cap you start going for high level gear

signal current Jan 26, 2024, 1:42 AM

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Big sword :)

bronze gull Jan 26, 2024, 1:44 AM

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marsh gyro What's nice about the RNG is there's a bunch of ways to tilt it in your favor by...

Thanks!
Been burned by Destiny 2's earlygame essentially being like "yeah the game gets fun after about 100 hours of grinding for half decent gear"

marsh gyro Jan 26, 2024, 1:48 AM

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Yeah compared to Destiny 2 you can tell exactly what a piece of gear will do by hovering over the stats and also see the stat ranges and the difficulties aren't gear/light level gated so much as "can you play smart and efficiently"

Leveling will still be about 15-20 hours to get to cap and it's a way to learn the levels and enemy types in controlled environments prior to doing higher difficulty stuff

bronze gull Jan 26, 2024, 1:50 AM

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That seems fair to me, and something I'm okay with

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Is there a particular class you reccomend starting with? I remember quite enjoying the Ogryn and the Marksman last time I played

marsh gyro Jan 26, 2024, 1:52 AM

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I started with Veteran marksman and did after that Zealot, Psyker, then Ogryn, and they're all pretty distinct feeling so go with the ones you think have the best looks and voices

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Veteran/Zealot/Psyker share some guns and melee between them and each has class specific gear too while Ogryn has all unique guns and melee

bronze gull Jan 26, 2024, 1:54 AM

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Gotcha, thanks
How's the solo queue experience? I don't know many folks outside the server who play so I suspect I might be queuing solo and playing with randoms quite a bit

marsh gyro Jan 26, 2024, 1:57 AM

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About 2/3 of my current play is solo queues because I play at odd times and folks are helpful and give their best - it works out to winning on max difficulty about 75% the time and laughs the other 25%

Same for leveling, it was almost entirely solo and people tend to be helpful especially if you use text chat

bronze gull Jan 26, 2024, 2:08 AM

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Cheers, thanks!

tough compass Jan 26, 2024, 2:11 AM

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I think the "problem" with this group is when we do max squad runs we like to do missions on the harder side. So my success rate is better with pubs lol

limpid zinc Jan 26, 2024, 9:04 AM

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+3 stamina curio is insane

drowsy vine Jan 26, 2024, 9:06 AM

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its aite

limpid zinc Jan 26, 2024, 9:10 AM

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nah its a sleeper hit for sure

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knife w/ seven stamina bars is nuts

cloud hazel Jan 26, 2024, 9:12 AM

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i did run +7 stamina chaxe vet for a while

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shockingly capable even pre-chaxe buff

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capable of push blocking jesus if you could back up

limpid zinc Jan 26, 2024, 9:54 AM

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i took a toughness curio off to do it after swapping to a 17% from a 15% and realizing that was worth a fat... 2 toughness

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(on zealot)

signal current Jan 28, 2024, 1:37 AM

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First level 30 character!

marsh gyro Jan 28, 2024, 1:45 AM

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Which class?

signal current Jan 28, 2024, 1:45 AM

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The mission that pushed me over also gave a nice bolter

signal current Jan 28, 2024, 1:45 AM

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marsh gyro Which class?

Zealot

marsh gyro Jan 28, 2024, 1:46 AM

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signal current The mission that pushed me over also gave a nice bolter

Oh yeah this one's super nice and will get you through threat 5 good

signal current Jan 28, 2024, 1:47 AM

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1200 damage crits

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Yeesh

marsh gyro Jan 28, 2024, 1:48 AM

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If you have any Melk bucks saved up you can check Melk daily for a nice melee weapon to go with that too

signal current Jan 28, 2024, 1:50 AM

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Currently I’m running this eviscerator

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It seemed to do well

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Not perfect I know but definitely not terrible

marsh gyro Jan 28, 2024, 1:51 AM

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Yeah that's a solid one for general use

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There's a weird bug on the Mk 15 eviscerator where it only ever can hit 4 dudes regardless of cleave and that's still okay because 4 eviscerated bad folks per swing is still really really good (cleave bonuses help more damage stick past the first one hit)

split mantleBOT Jan 28, 2024, 4:49 PM

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<@&1042950387478560878>

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anyone up for some games?

dawn totem Jan 28, 2024, 4:50 PM

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Makes me wish I had breakfast earlier lol

lapis jetty Jan 28, 2024, 5:32 PM

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kind kindle Jan 28, 2024, 6:39 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHEaRy0Zjc

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drifting prism Jan 28, 2024, 8:03 PM

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lapis jetty

I blow up barrels for the boosted jump

tough compass Jan 28, 2024, 8:13 PM

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It makes sense, but I hate the order dependence lol

alpine needle Jan 29, 2024, 3:37 AM

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I blow up barrels for area denial, it doesn't work I still get swarmed by 6 maulers

cyan depot Jan 29, 2024, 3:38 AM

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I blow up barrels because they are targets

hushed glade Jan 29, 2024, 3:39 AM

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i blow up barrels because if I don't someone will and kill me with it

drowsy tusk Jan 29, 2024, 3:43 AM

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I blow up barrels because the lookout exploding barrel lines are funny

drowsy vine Jan 29, 2024, 3:43 AM

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I blow up barrels because I'm spamming melee swings and do it by accident

buoyant apex Jan 29, 2024, 3:54 AM

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Boom look pretty

white portal Jan 29, 2024, 3:58 AM

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I get blown up by barrels

quiet escarp Jan 29, 2024, 9:27 AM

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As an ogryn main I blow HP barrels because they are next to enemies I am hitting and my swings are too damn wide

dawn totem Jan 29, 2024, 5:14 PM

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I feel like I should blow up any barrel I see from a distance so it doesn't launch my teammates off the map

drowsy tusk Jan 29, 2024, 5:25 PM

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I think that sometimes and then suprise they zoom across map in front of barrel

buoyant apex Jan 29, 2024, 5:32 PM

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I want to be launched by barrel

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Psyker Space Program

marsh gyro Jan 29, 2024, 10:02 PM

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I gotta do some more testing but it looks like you can have two super tagging veteran team buffs up at once if one vet has the 5 stack version and one has the 8 stack node

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 3:46 PM

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How much has the game changed since a couple months after it came out?

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Cuz I uninstalled a couple months after launch lol

slender shell Jan 30, 2024, 3:49 PM

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It's good now, huge skill tree rework and some more maps and a few more weapon mks

tough compass Jan 30, 2024, 3:49 PM

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The core gameplay is the same (and great). The stuff around it has gotten better

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 3:50 PM

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noice

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has the ammo econ changed?

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I always ran out of ammo as a soldier

slender shell Jan 30, 2024, 3:54 PM

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full honesty vet shouldn't be running out of ammo much lol with the regen talent

tough compass Jan 30, 2024, 3:57 PM

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Depends on the gun and build. But the vet ammo aura helps a lot

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 3:59 PM

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On Damnation I run dry really quick with my shotty. On both my Zealot and my Vet

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 3:59 PM

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I'm mainly planning on playing psyker

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 3:59 PM

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You don't need to worry about ammo for the most part, lucky

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Unless you wanna play Gunker

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 4:00 PM

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nah lol

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 4:03 PM

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Gunker was fun, staffs were better. I struggled to find my fun playing psyker but I can't deny how useful they are. That bubble shield makes you feel like a God

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 8:40 PM

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in most cases if you're going hard on shooting you'll run otu of ammo, but maps usually do a good job of not keeping you topped off, but providing relatively regular ammo drops

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with a bit of care and conservatism with shooting, you can get through without running out

cyan depot Jan 30, 2024, 8:41 PM

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It also depends on the weapon a lot

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Some are ammo hogs and some barely use any

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 8:42 PM

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Yeah, certain setups can really coast through without spending a lot

cyan depot Jan 30, 2024, 8:42 PM

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my headhunter autogun sniper vet rarely drops below like 70% ammo unless the going is Hard

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 8:43 PM

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the infantry lasgun is The ammo efficiency weapon

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 8:43 PM

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The Infantry and Lucius lasguns are brutally ammo efficient, especially if you bring Shock Trooper

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 8:43 PM

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lucius also has impulse101 but there are other reasons you might not want to use it

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infantry lasgun just points and shoots and people's heads go bang

cyan depot Jan 30, 2024, 8:43 PM

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Since I think I'm overspecced into it and kill basically anything short of a crusher in 3 or less (head)shots

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 8:50 PM

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i think plasma and bolter are both easy to burn through ammo on, though the plasma if played careful will do you right

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just gotta be more comfy with not shooting everything

marsh gyro Jan 30, 2024, 8:55 PM

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After running up the scoreboards on shots fired I find anecdotally there's enough ammo for 4 players to shoot normally in a mission or 2 players to hold W+M1 and never stop firing meaning the other 2 gotta stab more

If a Vet has survivalist perk that's another 400% ammo for the team across 4 folks so that can be a whole lot more wiggle room for blastin'

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 8:56 PM

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4 vets with regen is a "welcome to your dedicated fps" game

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just need people to dodge and target acquire good

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and you got yourself a squad of shock troops

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had a blast doing that a couple time

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just tearing through everythign

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then, much like the psyker, when someone can't cover an angle or something gets into the cookie jar, things breakdown fast

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thoough shout is a GREAT recover tool there

cyan depot Jan 30, 2024, 8:59 PM

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marsh gyro After running up the scoreboards on shots fired I find anecdotally there's enoug...

This can get weird with staff psykers though - I think the game starts spawning less ammo if there's 2+ of them

marsh gyro Jan 30, 2024, 8:59 PM

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cyan depot This can get weird with staff psykers though - I think the game starts spawning ...

I've noticed this too

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:20 PM

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wouldn't surprise me if the ammo worked on Nuclear Throne rules

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:21 PM

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drowsy vine The Infantry and Lucius lasguns are brutally ammo efficient, especially if you b...

hehehe I may just be bad then

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I was a Lucius player

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:22 PM

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Shock Trooper didn't exist beforehand but in general you should probably be shanking everything you can get away with

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:25 PM

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Also depends on which one you're using

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The heavy Mk3 is an ammo guzzler

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The MK2 is the middle of the pack and generally the best one

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It can pop shooters with regular uncharged shots to the head and the charged shot will take care of just about anything short of Ogryns in one go unbuffed

buoyant apex Jan 30, 2024, 9:31 PM

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drowsy vine It can pop shooters with regular uncharged shots to the head and the charged sho...

Headshot or bodyshot?

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:37 PM

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Headshot

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Charged bodyshot might kill weaker specials like bombers

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But otherwise it won't cut it

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 9:42 PM

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I love my infantry lazgun, I like when my fire rate buffs kick in and it goes into over drive and you get the glitched hit marker sound

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:45 PM

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ive never been able to love the helbores

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i tried em a few tiems

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and it never clicked

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whatre the premier blessings?

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 9:45 PM

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I really wish I did too. The bayonet is nasty

buoyant apex Jan 30, 2024, 9:47 PM

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I just... Can't hit headshots with them for the life of me

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:48 PM

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i find i often have a better time rolling aroudn with my lasgun 1a and shooting more shots rather than chargin em

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:48 PM

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I think I may really start to pop off with vet once I get a bolter or plasma gun

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:50 PM

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I honestly just install the weapon customisation mod and slap a sight on the hellbores, my vision isn't worth making worse for the sake of nebulous game fidelity

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:51 PM

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briar what blessings do you run for your helbores?

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:51 PM

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oh I mean I won't have to futs around with a charge mechanic

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at least with a bolter

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with a bolter I can play somewhat like I play huntsman or waystalker

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"Oh that's a special cue."

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immediately ignores all other enemies to hunt the special

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ends special

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"back to regular business lads"

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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you uh, may want to look into the stub revolver

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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and I can just do that by shooting the damned thing

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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you do have to futz with a charge mechanic on the bolter

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it's called 'taking it out'

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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for that "quick draw, headshot, back to work"

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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Oh I keep my ranged out most of the time sweats

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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opaque crown briar what blessings do you run for your helbores?

The optimal blessings are basically set in stone as Surgical/Onslaught

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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live that bolter melee push vibe

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

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that would explain why you're running out of ammo

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:53 PM

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drowsy vine The optimal blessings are basically set in stone as Surgical/Onslaught

ahhh how bad is it if i don't have both then?

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:53 PM

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I may just try what talus suggests

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and live the space cowboy

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:53 PM

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revolver has much faster response time for the man-sized specials

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at the cost of spending about as much time reloading as you would the bolter

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:53 PM

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I mean it's still usable, but it's very much worth going for both

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:53 PM

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possibly more

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:54 PM

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nice bit about the revovler thou is you can load one shot

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and shoot it

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when you need to

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Surgical is the more important one for ammo conservation

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Oh when I tried the rev I abused the shit out of that

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:54 PM

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its TTK on ogryns is a couple shots higher than it used to be

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but it can still put down a crusher in a pinch

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:54 PM

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i think, weirdly enough, another good "pull it out and blast" weapon is the plasma gun

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which has none of the bolters draw speed problem

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but has a MUCH WORSE reload time problem

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 9:54 PM

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thick rivet at least with a bolter

The charge mechanic with the bolter is finding out how to space your wretched reloading times

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Also, yeah, Rhi, make sure you pull out your melee more

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:55 PM

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if you're reloading your plasma gun everything is dead

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is the difference there

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:55 PM

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plasma comes out nice and fast

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and is pinpoint accurate even from the hip

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:55 PM

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although in fairness if you're reloading your bolter 90% of everything is dead

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the plasma is pinpoint accurate from hip because you literally cannot ads :v

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Melee both saves a lot of ammo, and almost all melee kills hordes more efficiently than the majority of ranged weapons

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:55 PM

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yeh

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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man what I would do for a semi-auto rifle without a charge mechanic or taking 5 billion metric eons to draw or reload

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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just

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use an infantry lasgun

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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uh

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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or a headhunter

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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the vraks headhunter with the single shot

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is good

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for semi auto with no charge mechanic

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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thick rivet man what I would do for a semi-auto rifle without a charge mechanic or taking 5 ...

Infantry Las and Vraks Headhunters are waiting for you in your area

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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and decent reload and draw speed

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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I forgot the infantry las doesn't charge

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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both are very good, debatably meta, snappy as fuck to handle although not quite the quickdraw/surplus of the revolver

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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shows how fast I abandoned it for the lucius, which was probably a mistake

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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i find a fun bit of the headhunter is that its pretty decent at fishing for thead from the hip too

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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also isn't the vraks an autogun and therefore

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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Shovel time ♠️

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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kind of shit for special killing?

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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and you can wipe shooters nicely with headshots

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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God no

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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they uh

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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nah

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:57 PM

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changed the game

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since you were gone

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lol

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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the headhunters actually have lower base damage compared to lasguns but better headshot multipliers

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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it kills most manscale specials fast but you need plas or bolter to put down the big guys regardless

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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so they reward precision

buoyant apex Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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Really?

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I would have thought it the other way around

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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The autoguns in general have a world differences from game launch

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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they buffed the fuck outta the autoguns

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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they pretty much all good in the right hands these days

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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more ammo, deeper pockets, more damage

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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and more of a taste thing

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than a not good thing

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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I'm still not a fan of the braced versions. Please christ lemme ads

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:58 PM

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opaque crown the headhunters actually have lower base damage compared to lasguns but better h...

Oh boy

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:59 PM

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the infantry autos are now debatably better than braced

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 9:59 PM

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It's time for this huntsman main to cook

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 9:59 PM

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which is insane to think about if you tried using those things pre-patch

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 9:59 PM

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Imo the heavy inf autogun is the best all round ranged weapon in the game, full stop

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 9:59 PM

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yeah i highly recommend finding the semi auto mark of the headhunter

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and giving it a twirl

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i ma big fan of the middle of the way infantry auto

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but ive seen them all perform well

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griaia i think is the middleweight inf gun?

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:00 PM

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Yeah

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:00 PM

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so vraks headhunter semiauto

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:00 PM

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yeah, though note theres like 3

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:00 PM

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Ye

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:00 PM

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one has a 3 shot, one has a 2 shot, and one has a 1 shot iirc

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:00 PM

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Which mk is the semi-auto one?

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:00 PM

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Columnus, Graia, Agrippina are light/med/heavy

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:01 PM

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thick rivet Which mk is the semi-auto one?

7

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So Mk VII

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:01 PM

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i think its the mark 7 yeah

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:01 PM

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cool beans

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:01 PM

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they're all semi auto but the mark 7 is the single shot, everything else is a pulse

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:01 PM

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Ah

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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So you could say

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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also how has psyker changed since their only ult was the headpop

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xD

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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A burst

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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a lot

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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psyker has a ward of dawn

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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the psyker has also changed a lot

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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cloud hazel psyker has a ward of dawn

Oh fuck yes

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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that also regens your toughness

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also you can shoot through it

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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Psyker is fun to play now

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That's the difference

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EnbyHeckYeah

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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there were a lot of reasons I quit destiny but having ward of dawn be good was not an insignificant one

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lmao

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:02 PM

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cloud hazel also you can shoot through it

cowabunga it is

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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theres a dome shield and a wall shield. The dome shield is the better general pick; but the wall can be immensely funny

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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drowsy vine That's the difference

~~ debatable ~~

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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and you get 2 charges

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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What's ward of dawn

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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Tho tbf I didn't play at release

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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Titan's bubble shield super in destiny

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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the wall can make chargers splat into it

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and bombers bounce off

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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is called the ward of dawn

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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Oh I see

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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which

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now I think of it

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is an odd name

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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Was it OP as hell or something

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:03 PM

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for an ult for the subclass specifically not sun related

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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no it sucked dogshit

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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Oh wonderful

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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in comparison the psyker bubble is insane

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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It sucked dogshit because the alternative was a wall that you could move with you

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because it was a shield you were carrying and blocked with

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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no the alternative was well which- anyway

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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I liked the electric ult that had you full send smash the ground and charge into people.

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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In a movement based game...

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:04 PM

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I mean Sentinel's alternative Thresh XD

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anyway I didn't rly play titan

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I was a filthy hunter main

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which is partially why I'm a headshot gremlin

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and why I'm trying out the stub revolver

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:05 PM

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okay rhi

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i have some news for you

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do you like the last word

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:05 PM

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oh?

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I mean is this news only relevant if I still play Destiny?

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Cuz I don't

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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my friend

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there is a last word in darktide

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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I'm sorry

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What????

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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it's got accurate fanfire and a speedloader and it can annihilate ogryn with the right spec

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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alpine needle ~~ debatable ~~

Imo Psyker benefited the most by far from the class changes - headpop forced you into a very specific playstyle and Scream was very generic

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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HOLY

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OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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if you wanna yeehaw on vet

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the option is there

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:06 PM

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The class has a ton more depth now

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:07 PM

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I saw clips of psyker using force lightning

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Is that a horde clear ability

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:07 PM

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force lightning is like premium crowd control

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:07 PM

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no it's a crowd cc ability

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:07 PM

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rather than horde clear

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but its super premium control

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will stun EVERYTHING

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:07 PM

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very, very poggers

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:07 PM

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Crowd control, but it can do very decent damage if you go a certain capstone

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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also it combos real well if otehr people got some sort of dot thrown out

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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Is there a spec for melee psyker btw?

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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really the fact that it does any damage at all is kind of nuts

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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stunning ragers into fire is easy mode

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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yes

alpine needle Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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drowsy vine Imo Psyker benefited the most by far from the class changes - headpop forced you...

I'm glad we have what we have now then, the variety was there but I couldn't personally find fun in the quell mechanic.

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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there is a 'martial' psyker that enhances your non-psychic weapons

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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yeah, its a crit based high risk/high reward psyker

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you effectively un around stabbing shit in the head

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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so it's a martial psyker

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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with like a 70% crit chance

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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that doesn't buff force weapons?

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:08 PM

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it's not that it doesn't buff them but its ult generates peril

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so it's a tough ask to also run a peril-generating weapon

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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wait force weapons generate peril now?

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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yeah, so effectively you pop ult, gain an instant buff, then as you build peril over time, your buffs get better. But it takes you right up to 100

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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by force weapon I mean the force sword

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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they always did if you used the special?

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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the melee force weapons

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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Only the special

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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OH right

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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also the push attack I think?

drowsy vine Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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Which always did

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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Rightrightrightright

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I member

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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you can use the force sword unpowered just fine

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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sorry xD

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:09 PM

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mostly restricts your use of staves

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so no bowling balls or force lightning unless you really want to gamble with the structural integrity of your skull

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

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So do people generally run gunker for it?

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

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yeah it's sort of the gunker-specific subclass

thick rivet Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

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fuck

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

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you can dip for some of the melee talents on other classes

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

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i actually run melee focused lol

cloud hazel Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

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psyker in general is just swimming in talent points

opaque crown Jan 30, 2024, 10:10 PM

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which is unwise

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youre safer shooting

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but i love going super fast

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