and have it mostly fill the space
#dark tidings (Darktide for people in the searchbar)
spiral badger
finite nymph
The Fan Revolver is really cool but I'm struggling to use it over the accurate friend
opaque crown
my knee jerk thought on its role is a fast draw rager blaster
spiral badger
it's good at blasting ragers, it's good at running and gunning
finite nymph
but the normal one also kills Ragers, often with less ammo
spiral badger
but the trade off is ammo for time
opaque crown
i think the dissonance really comes from like... its not a smaller version of the normal revolver
it fills a different role
spiral badger
and I've expressed my feels on that lol
it is, however, very funny and cool to dump a cylinder into a rager
oh also holding fan stance charges up surgical
so you can get some mondo crit setups
opaque crown
high noon blessing
finite nymph
Maybe that's it, it takes off a lot harder with perk setups
I don't have a perfect one so it just feels like more bullets for similar results
spiral badger
there's been some posts of using trickshooter+hand cannon+crit talents to just vaporize anything
opaque crown
i think my biggest interests rn is doing some runs with the shovel, and also crafting and making some of the new chainaxes
that new evis is on my radar too
spiral badger
the shovel is extremely good
finite nymph
Shovels feel great, new knife feels great
spiral badger
the vet shovel can also one-shot crushers with the right setup
finite nymph
But the special attack is the stab, and they buffed that this patch
opaque crown
inch resting
finite nymph
So it kind of just feels better
spiral badger
reports are that it's probably better than original stab
since it fixes the horde clear issues and you don't lose that much single target
finite nymph
Also most importantly: fun inspect animation
spiral badger
new chainsword is apparently worse, but I haven't had a chance to try it
something about moveset
same with new chainaxe
opaque crown
hmm, worse like way worse, or worse like "its worse by degrees"
spiral badger
according to the people i play with the moveset is more awkward
opaque crown
mm
finite nymph
I don't think anything is like unviable
spiral badger
but that may also be playstyle bias
opaque crown
probably worth giving a twirl if i can make a good one either way id imagine
spiral badger
the new chainaxe similar to a lot of the other new ones reverses the attacks
so lights for horde clear, heavies for strikedown
spiral badger
no, it's a full reversal
distant surge
can't think of a build for this
cloud hazel
if you want tips on new revolver I have been running it on damnation and fragging
imo you think about it like a bolter with less panic button potential but far more flexibility with quickswaps
finite nymph
For like sudden rager hordes or something?
limpid zinc
since it fixes the horde clear issues and you don't lose that much single target
Ime it lost almost no single target in practical play and in the meat grinder I can hit the same/similar numbers
I think people are struggling to get the heavies to pop off because the targeting is very slightly different but hitting punch-light spam, it's basically the same numbers
And yes the new knife cleaves real good
My old knife had uncanny 4 mercy 4 and my new one runs uncanny 4 mercy 3, slightly different stat spread
In spite of the blessing tier difference it's like I said, kills single targets good as hell still
cloud hazel
For like sudden rager hordes or something?
sudden rager/mauler hordes, ogryn, and big swamps of ranged dudes where you can overpen and score multikills
if youve ever wanted an aim trainer in darktide
you can do a pretty good kovacs impression
I think trickshooter is probably gonna be the crucian/surgical replacement for the fanning revolver
alongside hand cannon because hand cannon is basically the infernus of revolvers
marsh gyro
Trickshooter is the last blessing I need for revolver and it eludes me
cloud hazel
but the perk that gives +crit for melee kills isn't half bad either especially since it's online for the full fan
limpid zinc
That's how it do
Last night my friend messaged me about getting mercy 4 on the first level 30 knife bcuz they knew I spent like 50 blues to get it
cloud hazel
and swapping from power sword swish swish to last-wording a crusher feels soooo gooood
reposting because this is the kind of shit you can do on a 6/10 roll
mint yew
there's been some posts of using trickshooter+hand cannon+crit talents to just v...
mine has a poor crit modifier but with HC4 and an Exec Stance/Marksman's Focus build it one or two shots pretty much everything, it's fun
finite nymph
maybe that's my problem
i don't have hand cannon so it doesn't twoshot fuckin anything
every video i see of this thing is so unlike how it feels in practice
opaque crown
that reload speed is a huge plus tbh
cloud hazel
it is real rough to play either revolver without hand cannon especially post- the nerf to its inherent AP
not being able to aim for head on ragers and maulers is an oof
opaque crown
the nerf i feel was entirely called for tbh, it was hella over performing
opaque crown
i think it still drops big bois like sacks rn tho right?
cloud hazel
lets agree on that haha
opaque crown
with the right blessings like hand cannon i mean
cloud hazel
yeah
I think without hand cannon you're just better off with the regular revolver, and leaning into its use as a ranged enemy destroyer moreso than the pocket bolter
opaque crown
yeah i was thinking like without specialist set up its still a great tool for droppin specialists and elites
spiral badger
it still reliably pops anything short of a mauler
opaque crown
just stops being the one stop shop for crushers and maulers
cloud hazel
the extra versatility from being able to take a gunner's skull instantly is excellent
spiral badger
and the new melee weapons add lots of great options for removing maulers and crushers from your life
finite nymph
I think another part of my reasoning is like
spiral badger
extremely rapidly
finite nymph
People love carrying stuff to deal with maulers and crushers
cloud hazel
and the regular revolver just lets you do that from further out
finite nymph
But rarely is everyone on top of Gunnerx100
finite nymph
i think they have a new rager-pack or something in this update
they have been up in droves
opaque crown
ragers are a lil easier to kill now
though i havent actualyl noticed
but they do have less hp
opaque crown
tbf to the change ive been running shield bleed ogryn
so everything dies at roughly the same rate
i just keep stacking more bleed
distant surge
my most recent build is pretty good at dealing with maulers 
so i havent had a lot of trouble with em, but boi my lasgun doesnt like them
cloud hazel
mostly because I play weapons with really chunky ttk unaffected by a 200 hp change, or ones where I'm not counting bullets anyway like the columnus
limpid zinc
But rarely is everyone on top of Gunnerx100
I just run at them really fast but when I gave this advice on the forums people thought I was trolling
cloud hazel
you are not just capping you are the whole hat
limpid zinc
That was my "oh I'm darktide georg ig" moment
cloud hazel
gunners + netcode = agonies
limpid zinc
you are not just capping you are the whole hat
Just slide lol
cloud hazel
with whose sprint
finite nymph
Gunners + that last point in the Carnival
cloud hazel
as I am promptly slid backwards 900 miles and melted instantly
marsh gyro
I think Zealot can get away with no hand cannon because of Charge armor penetration
cloud hazel
I don't even think suppression immunity gets you out of it
at least not that I've seen on vet
spiral badger
peopel underestimate the utility of just tying up gunners in melee
it makes them stop
limpid zinc
with whose sprint
they telegraph their salvos, I hit dodge slide and get into melee range before they get a second chance
distant surge
i go invisible and brrrr them in the back
limpid zinc
peopel underestimate the utility of just tying up gunners in melee
Yeah that's why I run at them lol
distant surge
but i could also stab em
cloud hazel
when they decide to drop guns and start shovelling is beyond me
limpid zinc
Oh shotgunners are nothing
cloud hazel
sometimes they'll react to me swinging and other times I just get ganglanded by a gatling gun
limpid zinc
They have like. Centuries between shots
Entire civilizations are born and die between shots
spiral badger
gunners never drop their guns
they just kick you and run off
only regular shooters will swap
limpid zinc
They'll stab you with the bayonet sometimes
finite nymph
Snipers will attempt their shot at such close ranges, gotta hand it to 'em
limpid zinc
But you can get a pack of gunners into stunlock p easy if you close distance
spiral badger
sniper you have to be practically on top of before they'll do the sniper kick
limpid zinc
Snipers will attempt their shot at such close ranges, gotta hand it to 'em
Snipers have a kick too lol
cloud hazel
regular shooters I'm mostly okay with
having to run the zealot ferry with the magic I to get people across a full civil war reenactment I am much less so
part of why I basically always have frags on nowadays are for those exact situations
drowsy vine
And now all builds can actually get regenerating nades again, lol
cloud hazel
mashallah
finite nymph
It feels so core to the Veteran life, now
cloud hazel
always has been
opaque crown
i love playing shield gryn with the block taunt and making every enemy except gunner get so pissed off they come and melee me
regenning builds is life
limpid zinc
I miss consistently getting nade Regen on zealot from vets....
cloud hazel
the good old days of stun grenade regen
finite nymph
I can't get over the size of buffed frag
cloud hazel
shredders are absolutely goated
finite nymph
roomsavers
limpid zinc
A lot of puggies never throw zellynades and I can hardly blame them
Bcuz they feel so precious lol
cloud hazel
I can pretty consistently point to more aggressive blitz use as my main reason for winrate percentage improvement
fuck it. frag everything
limpid zinc
Popping blitz and ults as often as practicable yeah
cloud hazel
even random poxwalker hordes
limpid zinc
I have the inverse problem where my baseline is dauric cock and ball torture so playing on lower difficulties never hits my "oh I should throw this grenade" threshold lmao
"seven ragers? I'll just kill them"
cloud hazel
there are also unfortunately more weird krak noreg bugs again
so that's a small but important part of decisionmaking for the time being
opaque crown
smoke em if you got em
better to use one in a situation that doesn't really call for em than to never use em
cloud hazel
yeah basically
and nowadays with director being how it is
suddenly a situation can really fucking call for em
and it's better to be proactive about it than not
spiral badger
Yeah I have the same problem as rhiz, I can solve most situations with judicious whacking of heads
So the grenades only come out when shit is really not cash
opaque crown
i love me rocks dearly as an ogryn, but the ogryn frag has been like... very sexy of late
cloud hazel
stun grenades are basically the "everyone is dead" button
opaque crown
just "oh no, better use the eraser bomb"
if the ogryn frag were any bigger, it'd start deleting texture maps off of objects too
cloud hazel
ogryn talent that forces you to reinstall csgo every time one goes off
opaque crown
i have noticed a friend of mine, the zealot and I, will sometimes think the sme thing, they throw a flame nade and i throw a ogryn frag
and im just like "sry i just thought we needed the space"
cloud hazel
the braincell temporarily exits the warp
hm
you know what I should try
heavy laspistol exec stance
opaque crown
i wanna run heavy laspistol on scriers gaze psyker
though i also want to run quickdraw revolver on psyker
cloud hazel
brunt what the fuck man
cloud hazel
morbidly curious
cloud hazel
because the refire delay takes so long that it returns to center anyway
it just adds visual wobble
cyan depot
Hahaha
cloud hazel
it also helps that it seems to deal 1000 fucking damage on a headshot
so things will just die anyway
obviously still awful on crushers but shockingly effective against maulers
white portal
my flicking my shovel up and down in my adhd fueled inability to do anything but fiddle
crunch the brain
opaque crown
i question the validity of changing the orientation of the shovel to get massive armor penetrating power, but i accept it despite this
because thats very warhammer energy
of being extra
limpid zinc
its not very warhammer at all, theres no skulls on it
quiet escarp
its not very warhammer at all, theres no skulls on it
There is actually on the ogryn one, at least the tan shovel
There's a little steel skull at the top of the handle
sinful shadow
if there are not enough skulls on your shovel, the purpose of the special is to put one on there
however briefly
drowsy tusk
Khorne cares not from where the blood flows
alpine needle
Just that it flows 
heavy geyser
the new eviscerator has weirdly made me love the old evisterator more, I'm just now appreciating its Combos now that there'a context of a more straightforward evis
cyan depot
the new eviscerator has weirdly made me love the old evisterator more, I'm just ...
yeah the new one is functional but it is honestly the most boring melee weapon to use haha
It works so well tho
drowsy tusk
I enjoy having a brain off stick but yea
spiral badger
i liked the executioner sword and i like the new evis
sometimes I just wanna hit light
heavy geyser
Combos I'm finding:
- heavy > light > heavy > light as the base horde clear, standard, but!
- light1 > heavy is two vertical shots combo for single target, so you can
- heavy > light > (loop) > light light light > heavy to convert from horde clear into single target, which will flow from heavy > light sweep into one sweep, two light vertical headshots and then the heavy vertical
- rev > light1 > heavy is the new evis heavy spam but a bit faster and you can flow from this into a loop into itself or
- rev > light1 > heavy > light light light > heavy to lay on a fast string of overheads, on a single target it juices up Shred blessings from a standstill to feed crits
like the new evis is fun but I'm capital-u Understanding the old evis now and it rules
like these modules all flow into each other
spiral badger
yeah combo stuff like that is how you get Maximum Fun out of some of the weapons
the ogryn bonk sticks for example all have an optimal combo flow for crowds and a different one for single targets
heavy geyser
I got the new evis and was like oh this is cool, but what did one person mean by "simplifed?" and now I'm like, oooooooooh.
spiral badger
mk1 bully club is light-heavy-light for crowds, and Heavy-Light-light-Heavy for single targets
while mk3 is light light light for crowds and push attack light for single targets
drowsy vine
Yeah I'm a big Executioner Sword fan
And the new Evis is just a slightly tweaked Exe Sword
heavy geyser
ogryn
distant surge
ogryn
hehe
okay i went with zealot first
tell me some religious figure from 40k whose name i can mix with bork
such as Ahzek Ahriman(ahzek borkman)
cyan depot
Seborkian Thor?
distant surge
beautiful
oh wait 
i was going female for this one
dang it, that name's so good i'm considering changing it 
cyan depot
Haha
I’m having trouble with a good pun name for a prominent woman in the 40K church
Alicia Dominica comes to mind but is hard to pun
distant surge
true
distant surge
Saint Borkestine sounds hilarious to me unsure if it's good tho
cyan depot
That’s pretty good
slender shell
You could also go with Sister of Borker
distant surge
that's also good
haughty ember
dawn totem
Darktide also knocks the level aesthetics out the park no lie
dawn totem
It's often worth it just to look up and appreciate the level design in-between hound pounces.
white portal
First thing I did on the new map was look down and go "If I was really here I would immediately steal these carpets"
because there's some CARPETS on the floor
CARPETS
Sure some of them have holes in them but CARPETS
I would steal a carpet and an ottoman from the new map
drowsy vine
Fancy ass obscura dens
west mantle
mfw they didn't make the vet tree shorter: :|
drowsy vine
Yes they did
west mantle
Did I miscount?
drowsy vine
They compressed the bottom half of the trees to cut the amount of nodes you need to hit a Keystone by about 3 or 4
west mantle
I thought it was still 17 to keystone
... I forgot. It was 21 before
17 for Psyker
newspapers self
cyan depot
Honestly the old maps are great looking too
The weakest map tileset is transit hub imo and it’s still great
One thing I really enjoy about Darktide maps is that they’re careful to use a lot of obscure old modeled terrain parts from 40K which gives it a very authentic feeling
west mantle
Barrels: My mortal enemies 
cyan depot
Also fun fact: the scrawled writing on the walls is from the chaos script in the old 1990 Codex: Chaos
And translates
cloud hazel
NERDS
cyan depot
My favorite is “FOP THE DARK GODS”
cloud hazel
NERDS THE LOT OF EM
cloud hazel
My favorite is “FOP THE DARK GODS”
chaos eunt domanus est
west mantle
Warren 6-19? more like Warren 69, amiright?
cyan depot
I’m having trouble finding a reference pic but a lot of the airlocks and wall greebles are lifted straight from old terrain pieces
cyan depot
Warren?
west mantle
new map
drowsy vine
That's really cool Cyan
west mantle
If forgetting names is cool, you can call me 0k
tough compass
<@&1042950387478560878> Does anyone want to tide darkly?
tough compass
The smoke is spooky
I think all the city maps need sign posts that have conviently been defaced to point in the direction you are supposed to go
I get so lost in them
white portal
I like it, but I'm usually an ogryn with a kickback so I don't do things like "miss" because how I aim is North, East, South, West.
cloud hazel
<@&1042950387478560878> Does anyone want to tide darkly?
give me five for a bio break and I will join you in darkened tides
west mantle
the big ball of gooooop
drowsy vine
bwuh
west mantle
last segment of the new map
drowsy vine
Oh yeah, the Genesis Chamber
west mantle
goeonoeosoiosooocohoaomoboeorop
drowsy tusk
Want play darktide when get home but also get home at 0030 ish
heavy geyser
We saw someone wearing this helmet today and it made their voice mega deep
opaque crown
Hmm so I don't have the right blessings to make my veteran shovel kill crushers easy, but it does still feel good to use
drowsy vine
Yeah you're looking for Uncanny Strikes
opaque crown
N the other hand new chain axe? Great crusher insurance
Really feels like you can confidently go toe to toe without issue
Unless there's loads of em
heavy geyser
So well behaved inside the flying box
spiral badger
so the good news is I just tested and the fire damage bonus also applies to enemies lol
so making a bunch of ragers stand in bomber fire kills them pretty fast now
hushed glade
Is that good on the fanner?
drowsy tusk
Rager swarm party cannon
drowsy tusk
Ye
west mantle
Mortarian is a sad trans girl.
lusty kelp
Today I played a malice game while someone on voice kept hacking up saliva and spitting loudly.
Truly, the 41st milllennium is a grim, dark place.
hushed glade
immersive
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> jut got off work anyboday wanna tide?
west mantle
I just got to work :(
drowsy tusk
Immense rip
cyan depot
Quaeris?
(||i had to look up the Latin conjugation clap for me||)
Also sorry I’m not free atm
heavy geyser
A teammate with three wounds had a purple wound so I just stuck them with the health stimm by surprise
Its powerful, you can just boost someone
blue stimm an ogryn to give them a speedy little surprise
"spend it on your teammates" is a great mental trick to keep you from saving it for the perfect moment
heavy geyser
Yeah 50% heal is a good payoff to the risk of 2 wounds
west mantle
<@&1042950387478560878> I am unexpectedly free, but my wife is watching her soaps, so I'd love to VC, but I can't talk
I'll be in HA
west mantle
I want a shotgun that's just all slugs
marsh gyro
New chain axe is completely out of control with Thrust blessing, this rules
west mantle
You're just over there... thrusting?
Have you tried the new shovel?
i stg, the devs heard me describe my perfect weapon
cloud hazel
new shovel is absolutely disgusting
it feels like how the original chainaxe would love to
quiet escarp
The new ogryn shovel one shots ragers out of their charge and that's more than I could ever have asked for
quiet escarp
I want a shotgun that's just all slugs
The monkeys paw curls and the shotgun with only slugs is actually a new kickback variant
mint yew
I can darktide shortly, just need to get out of bed into an annoyingly cold day and go get the bins in
drowsy vine
I can also 'tide
cloud hazel
who up darkin they tide
spice lotus
mint yew
Making pancakes for breakfast then I'll be there
finite nymph
I feel like there's a lack of Ogryn lately, it breaks my heart
Wish the game would like aim for a full crew, I know it doesn't matter but s'fun
quiet escarp
Honestly I can't put my ogryn down
Everything else feels so squishy
Both toughness on heavy talents + confident strikes on a shield mean that I can basically stand in the middle of a horde and take no damage at all
And I stunlock everything up to crushers, and even the new twins, with my heavies
Plus I've just discovered the joys of the rumbler after getting a 540 one with a tier iv brittleness blessing
Just lobbing grenades at groups of gunners to knock them down continuously
mint yew
<@&1042950387478560878> morning L4s with the new weaponry
west mantle
Ooo, give me 5 and I'll be on
drowsy vine
Just waiting for my dinner and I'll be on soon
sick burrow
I'm not a laspistoleer, is this offer from melk any good?
drowsy vine
I'm not a laspistoleer, is this offer from melk any good?
thats real solid yeah, you can safely take off Infested and Between the Eyes for other stuff
Probably +Maniac% and Dumdum
sick burrow
cool, I'll throw my melkbucks at it, thanks
drowsy vine
cloud hazel
tough compass
I had a very bizarre bug yesterday: I had chosen a particular loadout, but my ranged weapon (a braced autogun) was swapped with a plasma gun. Everything else was the same
it did make me wonder if I was an idiot and took krak grenades with a plasma loadout lol
white portal
One of my greatest joys, and it really shouldn't be, but my greatest joy is just getting a stim and injecting it into my party members in quick match. Just "oh look a horde" and then I jam a combat stim into the zealot.
mint yew
I must admit I do that with every stim that isn't Med Stim, the objective best Stim
"don't need this, I will stab it into the passing Ogryn"
white portal
I do it with med stims sometime
but that's only if it can actually be used
"oh the zealot who keeps going down is looking a little peaky, going to stab them with the med stim"
distant surge
i didn't know the Zealot voice i picked was the khornate one
i picked her cause she sounded scottish
so i was a tad surprised when i heard it
dawn totem
I picked the snooty lady Zealot because her delivery cracks me the hel up.
distant surge
example?
dawn totem
Just the way she yells, "Grenade!" Is so very Aaaaact-TING! Just the right amount of over the top
distant surge
fair
dawn totem
Across the board the voice acting has been on point.
Also really great to hear multiple accents.
distant surge
i just like the idea of being scottish
spiral badger
I had a very bizarre bug yesterday: I had chosen a particular loadout, but my ra...
that happens sometimes when you swap builds before queuing for a mission
i haven't found a specific trigger but it seems to swap your build but fail to swap your weapons
dawn totem
I'm seeing a slight error when I use plasma. Sometimes there's no muzzle flash or projectile but the enemy will go down like it hit.
spiral badger
yeah that's also definitely happening.
i ran plasma last night and i basically just looked at the kill feed lol
marsh gyro
Yeah can confirm it was happening to me too
tough compass
I've seen that too. It's kind of funny when it doesn't seem to fire but the enemy explodes anyways
distant surge
i have a charge too
opaque crown
i picked the scottish one mostly because i wanted to be a shotgun preacher delivering sermons in a heavy accent
mint yew
<@&1042950387478560878> shooting things again
dawn totem
I keep tinkering with my gun psyker but I.... almost.... got it!
foggy latch
<@&1042950387478560878> shooting things again
i'll join why not
is there a specific voice channel to use?
drifting prism
Pick one and claim it
foggy latch
I was listening to psychedelic bullet hell breakcore whilst doing an auric run with friends yesterday
It was fun
dawn totem
I think I've come up with a really potent Gun Psyker that balances Damage and Toughness regen with an emphasis on dodging. Feels like it hits the right spot of moving fast, hard hitting Crit laden Assail, with just enough Toughness as a screw up buffer.
foggy latch
Four vets. Four plasma guns. High intensity. Two grims.
When you accidentally give your kasrkin squad all plasma gun upgrades in DoW
native roost
I think I've come up with a really potent Gun Psyker that balances Damage and To...
What's the key, Ive been jamming gun psyker as well
opaque crown
is the carnival music out yet?
plush basalt
People have ripped it to YouTube.
But I haven't seen it on Spotify yet.
And I want it.
onyx mantle
Med and ability cooldown.
dmg and speed are nice but not as valuable imo
white portal
I feel that the combat stim stops too quickly for the size of the hordes you get
cyan depot
Psyker’s Brain Burst and Psyker Staves. The speed of which the Psyker’s Smite propagates between enemies. Speed of which the Psyker can throw Shards using Assail. Speed of which the Psyker Quells their Peril.
lets fucking gooo
opaque crown
i like it on my ogryn because i change from a bleed shielder to a shield smasher briefly, letting me just slap rager hordes back down
cyan depot
red is also good for psyker (perils generation reduction)
mint yew
my god the new eviscerator is nuts
cyan depot
I think yellow is only good for psyker if you're crazy aggro and using venting shriek
mint yew
a 354 grey version is pretty much straight outperforming my godrolled MkII
hushed glade
is the carnival music out yet?
Two of the carnival tracks have actually been released since launch
just weren't used
dawn totem
What's the key, Ive been jamming gun psyker as well
It's pushing for toughness regens that emphasize attacking rather then quelling, and then leaning more on the gun part.
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> i just woke up, let us tide
alpine needle
Finally got to fight the quick twin, shes got crazy adhd. Her aggro had her bouncing between my ogryn and my zealot 5 times during the fight before she said "fuck this, bye haters" and kicked rocks.
I think her dash does damage?
white portal
I think so yeah. They're an interesting fight, a shame they disappear on you
alpine needle
We really try to zero them every time everyone dumps everything.
Oh I don't think either of them like krak nades. Especially not the brother.
limpid zinc
I feel that the combat stim stops too quickly for the size of the hordes you get
It's for alpha striking bosses
limpid zinc
Finally got to fight the quick twin, shes got crazy adhd. Her aggro had her bou...
Jane Darksouls is definitely more dangerous
alpine needle
Feels that way
I was getting RE8 flash backs with my itty bitty veteran.
I really like the twins they both look so sick
I do want a plasma pistol now tho
marsh gyro
At this point I'm 90% convinced when team members go down the director spawns an extra monstrosity in front of the rescue point for funsies
opaque crown
almost want the director to vocalize taunts at us
"Did you think it would be that easy"
maybe they could make wolfer taunt us more
alpine needle
That would be cool
opaque crown
side note
it would be really cool
to have grendyl's and the hive's PDF forces actively fighting in inaccessible parts of the map in some new maps
see those hydra emplacements and demolisher tanks at work
native roost
https://youtu.be/B1K5gM_2ggI?si=bQ2ptlJQqVf1CjHE
For those who might have been looking for finale music
alpine needle
see those hydra emplacements and demolisher tanks at work
I do want to hear a battery of leman russ's all fire that would be awesome.
limpid zinc
Feels that way
You can lock the John Bloodbourne into doing kicks instead of shooting the plasma gun by staying close and circle strafing
cyan depot
https://youtu.be/B1K5gM_2ggI?si=bQ2ptlJQqVf1CjHE
For those who might have been ...
I hope this one comes out officially
limpid zinc
But Jane Darksouls just does rush downs and melee alphas like an evil zealot
cyan depot
to have grendyl's and the hive's PDF forces actively fighting in inaccessible pa...
They actually are in transit hub!
Right at the start if you look to the left of the first bridge you can see gunfire and lasblasts being traded in the distance
It's easiest to see in blackout missions
opaque crown
oh? I should look harder next time
i just like the idea of feeling like other ops are happening at the same time if that makes sense
cyan depot
Yeah I get that
alpine needle
Rolling up in a chimera and hot dropping would also be so fun
alpine needle
You can lock the John Bloodbourne into doing kicks instead of shooting the plasm...
Learned that last night with my Zealot. I was slipping that bozo and revving my evi right in his face laughing 
I do want Jane's armor for my Zealot she's got the drip 
limpid zinc
They reused the lil breastplate for the zelly leathertwink chest
hushed glade
"You aren't just dealing with patrols this time, we're sending you onto the frontlines"
limpid zinc
Also I'm ngl I have no idea which twin is which gender actually
alpine needle
Me either
alpine needle
That was my thought
opaque crown
"You aren't just dealing with patrols this time, we're sending you onto the fron...
this would be sick, but also might be a bit hard to do wit hthe existing system, unless as part of the mission the space gets divided into like smaller spaces for you and your squad
limpid zinc
Yeah that lines up with Jane Darksouls and John Bloodbourne then
Perhaps they are.... nurgleb-
alpine needle
More like nerdborne Woe Rocks be upon ye heretics!
cyan depot
throws a green bomb which does like a whole wound of corruption and stays forever
alpine needle
It's ok I pray incredibly hard
cyan depot
I had an extremely funny run where the party zealot stepped on one by mistake after he died and just casualtied out
alpine needle
alt f4s
limpid zinc
*throws a green bomb which does like a whole wound of corruption and stays forev...
You can pop the skull bombs safely by stepping into the red and dodging backwards
cyan depot
they should remove that
limpid zinc
It do be inconvenient when their permanent fartbomb puts you in a corner tho
cyan depot
Though I think what usually happens is people back up onto them by mistake while fighting
alpine needle
Yes 
cyan depot
This was just your average most situationally aware zealot who was apparently lootlusted and not looking at the ground
alpine needle
Easier to position as my Vet, I imagine Psyker has an easier time too
limpid zinc
Apparently we only got the twinvasions for the next week or so so ig it'll solve itself soon
cyan depot
I'm curious if they're going all the way away or just becoming rarer
limpid zinc
I assume they're gonna release the mission to fight them both around then
cyan depot
https://youtu.be/3aAUHlr4-GI
God I need to switch to this zealot voice
limpid zinc
I kinda like the invasions tho I wish they'd stay
alpine needle
Would be nice if they were a speed bump in higher difficulties. "Trying to sub 12 minutes on Heresy? Have a twin!"
Or if the party is stocked up, with good health pools
limpid zinc
I know some ppl hate having them based on the forums and it's forumsalt that got lights out relegated to auric only 😔
alpine needle
Oh
opaque crown
things get real spicy
marsh gyro
Lights Out can stay on Auric until they give Ogryns floodlights
cyan depot
I know some ppl hate having them based on the forums and it's forumsalt that got...
wait really?
opaque crown
and a flamer is walking up from another angle
cyan depot
That's lame
limpid zinc
Would be nice if they were a speed bump in higher difficulties. "Trying to sub ...
They're not that difficult, it's just a nice change of pace from the monstros
limpid zinc
wait really?
I mean I assume ig
opaque crown
i also think that lights out not being a thing is lame
alpine needle
Thats so dumb what a bunch of bozos, i would have really liked practicing blackouts BEFORE getting to Auric
limpid zinc
I wish lights out was more common/rolled on nonaurics cause it's cool as hell
opaque crown
i mean we still get vent purge relatively common right?
limpid zinc
I've seen it on a nonaurics meal once
opaque crown
and hunting grounds out the ass
limpid zinc
Vent purge isn't as cool
alpine needle
Blackout feels like why they earn the right to say "horror elements"
cyan depot
Blackout is my favorite of the map changes
alpine needle
Actually so spooky the first few times.
cyan depot
Vent Purge causes weird frame drops for me sometimes and hounds is just not as fun
I'd be curious to see the datamined ones like poison and cinders
alpine needle
Or a sniper nest that you can't gauge the distance of
Cinders and smoke would be rad! In the foundry level!
opaque crown
i still maintain that lights out is the true darktide experience
distant surge
on what level should i be ready for heresy missions?
marsh gyro
10's good enough for malice comfortably, and I'd say 20-25 can do Heresy if you know what you're doing on high intensity Malice
hushed glade
I think doing it before 30 is dicey but if you have a capstone you should be good
cyan depot
I don't know shit about how it is now but I used to feel ok on Heresy between 15 and 20
alpine needle
Thats were I'm at and we carried a buddy last night who is bran new level 3 and he lived!
Tbf tho, Ogryn
distant surge
Ogryn stronge
opaque crown
if you got good groups, you can knock down your level expectations down, but they should be willingly carrying you lol
alpine needle
I'd help, I just have to make money
heavy geyser
oh the karnak bombs do corruption?
alpine needle
So frustrating, love this chat cause I learn so much from it. But I'm always trapped at work so now all I wanna do is play. But I have social obligations after work now 
cyan depot
oh the karnak bombs do corruption?
I think they might just do damage with a little corruption, but the fart cloud they leave on exit does a lot of corruption if you stand in it
heavy geyser
my "corruption aura out of necessity" build has been paying dividends lately
spiral badger
the bombs do corruption yeah
you can get insta-ganked by them if you foolishly stand in them for too long
native roost
Getting trapped in em must be devestating
drowsy tusk
afaaik they telepor all tie
cyan depot
I thought I did the first time but it was a chaotic as hell situation and they probably teleported away at very low HP
(got jumped in a confined space and a daemonhost showed up from seemingly nowhere)
native roost
We are just play testing them before they drop in the new patch as a dual boss or something
Genius implementation
cyan depot
It shows too since neither of them really present a balanced threat profile
soft summit
Yeah it's good build up for that as well
cyan depot
The gun one just kind of stands there and denies area and does damage when you stop paying attention
soft summit
During an "event"
native roost
I am terrified to fight Ms. HandCannon when Mr. Anime is twirling around me
cyan depot
Both at once is gonna be much scarier
soft summit
I am terrified to fight Ms. HandCannon when Mr. Anime is twirling around me
Actually it's mr hand cannon and ms anime I think
drowsy tusk
<@&1042950387478560878> barkbide
cloud hazel
dontonk?
mint yew
fucking finally
native roost
Enjoy your roped pants
mint yew
they fixed it and I got it in about three missions
native roost
Those aren't going anywhere
drowsy tusk
@marsh gyro impasta
white portal
Isn't that someone on here?
mint yew
I'm just irked because I spent ages trying to get it after they first said it was unbugged and it wasn't
drowsy tusk
yes
white portal
Well, I know someone on here has Zangief
drowsy tusk
clem
mint yew
and then this patch they actually fixed it and I got it nearly immediately
drowsy tusk
hence why i pinged him
white portal
ahh
cloud hazel
alpine needle
Yoooo Gief in Darktide!?
cloud hazel
cloud hazel
makes up for the other one
white portal
the combat shotgun with that little stopping power should be called "the beckoner"
alpine needle
I wish they would balance it out, if it was just the BFBC2 shotguns running slugs. Sniper shotty, hits like a truck, blows through anything.
limpid zinc
Actually it's mr hand cannon and ms anime I think
It's John Bloodbourne and Jane Darksouls
cyan depot
Ok so all the darktide operatives map pretty well to ashes of faith inquisitorial operatives
Like really well
Except them
5th class incoming qed
opaque crown
Servitor class gets heavy weapons but you have to look around and aim using the arrow keys
And can only move in straight lines
spiral badger
i don't think we'd get those for the sole reason that half the fun is having unique fun voice stuff
and like, you can have a couple of funny servitor voices but the fun would wear off quick
marsh gyro
Well, I know someone on here has Zangief
I take my create a character cosplay seriously
opaque crown
Today we're playing with a team made up of: seasoned veteran, sanctioned psyker, pious zealot, and semi living copy printer
cyan depot
Hey, Autosavants are real smart
Just augmented
You'd probably have to be some kind of messed up cyborg more than a normal servitor to keep up on missions
Though 40k games have a lot of precedent for messed up super cyborg
onyx mantle
Tech adept or Skitari would work well as a class
opaque crown
I wonder if they could make a hired gun distinct enough as a class
I suppose a cyborg hound would be the defining gimmick
cyan depot
There's a lot of shit the Hired Gun does in that game
onyx mantle
Though 40k games have a lot of precedent for messed up super cyborg
doggo class when
cyan depot
Aimbots, slow motion, etc
The Hired Gun is lowkey a like pocket space marine with all the archeotech they wind up stuffed to the gills with
heavy geyser
i was thinking about the 5th servitor class when looking at the floor scrubbers and how they are a lot more player model like than the other servitors on the mourningstat
just hidden in plain sight
spiral badger
know who could technically join and would generally fit
a Sister Repentia
the issue is that niche wise she'd just be an even more stringent zealot
alpine needle
Hexorcist 
Very interesting
Ya I still think a class with a core mechanic of changing your augments in your dope as fuck robot hand.
cyan depot
I could see someone with augments working pretty well with some sort of fluff
alpine needle
And one tree could totally have a buddy/minion. Servo skull that scans rooms, restarts interrogators for you, if you look long enough at an area it could ping specials over there for you. Especially if they're behind half cover and you'd ping "go there" like 8 times trying to get a punk sniper.
cyan depot
I do think mechanically the missing archetype is a minionmancer of some type
alpine needle
I agree with this. Even if it's relegated to a single tree like shield ogy kinda is.
blissful sparrow
tbh i just wanna see more cool stuff
opaque crown
debuffer might be another missing archetype, but i think its a generally less interesting one for most of the player body
alpine needle
Hell ya
heavy geyser
darktide rules
blissful sparrow
debuffer would be neat, yeah
cyan depot
debuffer might be another missing archetype, but i think its a generally less in...
psyker kind of has this
trauma staff with the good blessing, smite, etc
blissful sparrow
grenades that dont kill but debuff in 3 different ways, etc
alpine needle
4th trees? Could be more likely than an extra class
cyan depot
It puts out a TON of brittleness with the right blessing
opaque crown
im thinking like slowing, reducing armor, reducing accuracy, making enemies suppress less, etc
funny ult that would actually be good "make enemies in a radius stand up out of cover"
alpine needle
Zealot should be able to build those from my experience
The fact the holy fire nade doesn't slow does hurt me
blissful sparrow
if they add 4th trees psyker wont get theirs till the next game drops
poor sienna mains
alpine needle
If it had a trigger, or as a blessing on a high capacity weapon
Sustained fire on a stubber grants clarity
distant surge
are the scabs and dregs 2 different factions that came together under nurgle?
distant surge
is there any difference between the 2 flamers? or just color?
i thought the dregs were a gang
opaque crown
i was curious about that too, though one has different armor
spiral badger
green flamegirls do corruption damage
distant surge
green flamegirls do corruption damage
oooh
lusty kelp
It’s harder to be the not standard fire. You see, it’s not easy being green.
alpine needle
Ye, the scab flamer is flak I believe
spiral badger
regular flameboys only do normal kill you damage
cyan depot
are the scabs and dregs 2 different factions that came together under nurgle?
Yeah, the scabs are the rogue moebian 6th regiment (which is apparently extremely large because of some quirks in how the domain raises regiments) and the dregs are a local hive atoma cult
alpine needle
Scab gunner too.
alpine needle
The Lore 
lusty kelp
My wife and I are gonna duo level. Me ogryn, her psyker. Gonna be pinky and the brain.
distant surge
i need a name for my Ogryn once i make em, i'll break the formula 
i shall not give it a bork pun name
alpine needle
I random rolled and got Punt and was pleased with that
distant surge
Bork is a perfect ogryn name and you know it
alpine needle
Thats real
distant surge
ALSO
alpine needle
Could also mush two names together
distant surge
My wife and I are gonna duo level. Me ogryn, her psyker. Gonna be pinky and the ...
"one is a genius, the other's INSANE"
psykers are usually insane
alpine needle
Like Tryler
distant surge
alpine needle
Nvm I don't have another one 
I wanna fight a rogue Eversor
They sent one in after Wolfer and it's just be fucking up a Hab and it's way off target. The self destruct was damaged on entry or something. And the rejects have to put it down before it goes nuclear.
hushed glade
Doesn't even need to be Rogue
opaque crown
yeah that might be a normal eversor, the only trip up is that it hadn't gotten its mark before rampaging
alpine needle
I feel like it makes sense they'd try to send us in as clean up detail for an oopsy. The rejects probably wouldn't even know what they're looking at when they find it.
Idk. Would feel like a neat nod at the assassinorum.
soft summit
Though 40k games have a lot of precedent for messed up super cyborg
i actually liked this game >_>
soft summit
Yeah
alpine needle
Ya wait I thought it was OK at worst?
distant surge
.w. i thought eversors attacked u regardless of mark, as long as u got too close
alpine needle
Ya there is no friend or foe.
But they do take direction, the same way a cruise missile does I guess
cyan depot
They have some ability to tell, they'd deployed in assassin strike teams or (rarely) in groups
alpine needle
Right, but once they get going...
The assassinorum is cool, they got cool units.
I like the meme of the Callidus assassin that is deep undercover in a Ork Wah. And she's just super into it. Just one of dah boyz
drowsy vine
https://www.playdarktide.com/news/zolas-journal-i
What do folks make of this, btw
cyan depot
Waiting for more info
plush basalt
is surge still affected by empowered psionics?
(I was trying to look up build info, only found people whining about how OP that combo is)
cyan depot
did you mean the infinite surge bug or the surge staff bug?
drowsy vine
Waiting for more info
I think this confirms my theory personally
cyan depot
Which theory?
A third map?
I agree, but I've heard a lot of weird Zola theories lately and forget where they're from haha
plush basalt
surge staff getting +dmg as if it were smite
cyan depot
That is fixed
plush basalt
infinite smite is gone
ah, good
I'm still not quite sure about the surge staff's niche. It's quite unreliable in single-target, and doesn't do hordes well... Still, I enjoy it comboed with smite.
dawn totem
I kept hearing a lot of scuttlebutt about how Zola's ||genestealer||
marsh gyro
I'm still not _quite_ sure about the surge staff's niche. It's quite unreliable ...
It's good single target and CC vs all armor types and you don't have to aim good
plush basalt
Fair enough.
marsh gyro
I run my Surge with an Illisi Force Sword for crowds
drowsy vine
A third map?
Yeah, a pseudo-part 3 basically
If this all builds up to "see you next year fuckos" I'll be flabbergasted
tough compass
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%87%CF%8D%CF%82
Oh, I thought it was Warhammer 40k for trapper >.>
Oh, apparently I only remember the trapper call out
cyan depot
Yeah, a pseudo-part 3 basically
Yeah I buy that easily
drowsy vine
Calling it now, the journal entries set the stage for the map
Zola leads a strike team to take out the twins and either gets captured or stranded in enemy territory
And we need to bail her out, kill the twins in the process
heavy geyser
Zola being captured would make the vox calls on the mourningstar and on other missions a bit weird
unless they just disable a bunch of interactions
drowsy vine
I can see that being done for a limited time thing
Then the map is just part of the rotation
She could also just come back badly wounded or something
Give her a cybernetic eye in her portrait
tough compass
I don’t have the precise figures to hand tonight, but they have, between them, killed more of our poor rejects in the last two weeks than any other positively identified traitors.
Honestly, it's probably still horde units
cyan depot
tbf those probably aren't positively identified
heavy geyser
Is that about the twins?
drowsy vine
I think that's just story flourish tbh
Not an actual mechanical statement the twins are killing a lot of teams
drowsy vine
Is that about the twins?
Yeah
drowsy vine
https://www.playdarktide.com/news/zolas-journal-i
@heavy geyser see here
tough compass
Not an actual mechanical statement the twins are killing a lot of teams
Oh yeah, for sure'
I just find it funny because I don't find them (on their own anyways) to be that dangerous
Though I guess most rejects are not as good as the PCs
heavy geyser
oh its lore rejects, not player rejects
I was confused how they were killing a lot of people and didn't pick up on "two weeks"
distant surge
i can handle myself in heresy at lvl 14 mostly
if i get friends i can probably play em without any issues 
alpine needle
What do folks make of this, btw
3 phase boss fight Twins, Twins and Wolfer once the twins die just Wolfer who bails at low health or "dies" but small cut scene plays showing him twitch and begins to daemonize. That's my guess.
alpine needle
So then maybe a O&S style fight when one of the twins drops the other becomes way more hellish?
drowsy vine
That seems more likely yeah
alpine needle
Sounds fun
I agree it would come with a new secret third map. They're having too much fun with the street level stuff
cloud hazel
new chainsword appears to just be a long knife
drowsy vine
what
opaque crown
will need more supporting text for that lol
i mean most swords are effectively long knives, but i dont know if we're getting like... philosophical here about knives and swords
cloud hazel
its attack pattern has the same weird flaily motion as the knife
heavy geyser
light 2, i think, cuts diagonally up
it looks funny on rev hit
your arm covers the screen
soft summit
Yup, we totally aren't getting a surprise map drop after the LTE ends
Ah, the destiny route of lore drops
Not that I'm complaining
cloud hazel
<@&1042950387478560878> who up darkening they tide
drowsy tusk
i found my zealot after the timeskip
cloud hazel
hgoly fuck
soft summit
i found my zealot after the timeskip
Allison at the beginning and end of ksbd
alpine needle
i found my zealot after the timeskip
Aw man I'm the gender swap version then
Candle shoulder gang
tough compass
40k must have some sweet candles if they stay lit even while rejects are doing stuff
gentle flame
@cloud hazel If you're still darkening
heavy geyser
I see you've played knifey shovely before
cloud hazel
THIS SHIT AIN'T NOTHIN TO ME MAN
alpine needle
My friends and I are toxic, we copy paste Dracula flow bars into chat when we're with randoms.
slender shell
No that's peak darktide
alpine needle
They needed a stealth soldier,
so I put my hands on the hibachi hot plate at Benihana,
and burned my fucking finger prints off
They will not find me
activates infiltrator
drowsy vine
Yeah that's the complete list
finite nymph
I thought Power Sword was Vet only
cloud hazel
it is
plasma, hellbore, shovels, pow swords
are the complete list
is what I think briar meant
finite nymph
Oh I just missed the mention
drowsy vine
Yes
gentle flame
cloud hazel
pain
heavy geyser
hab dreyko, man.
drowsy vine
that finale though
cyan depot
That definitely helps but it’s just nasty period
Bad sight lines, aggressive spawns, and a rather nasty objective enemy mix
heavy geyser
We got penned in at the choke leading up to the spiral ramp segment with a tox flamer on one side and horde on the other
after a long hard fight to get there
the spiral at extraction
drowsy vine
Yeah the fact that there's a legitimate run to extraction that isn't just a victory lap is icing on the goddamn cake
heavy geyser
I wouldn't have them change it, it's good that you can shake the basket and get a run like Hab Dreyko in your lap.
But just, man. Hab Dreyko.
drowsy vine
I'd love to see more hot extracts actually
lusty kelp
Sometimes the AI director is a total dick.
High intensity malice. Pack of hounds, the maniacs with all the saws, two shield ogryns, and a plague ogryn.
And the associated scabs or dregs or whatever the horde is called
On malice
Whaaaaaaaat
drowsy vine
Thank you Brunt
Godroll stats for this chainaxe
<@&1042950387478560878> who up darkening their tides
west mantle
me
drowsy vine
@mint yew get in here
mint yew
I need to consume food, I'll catch the second one
drowsy vine
cloud hazel
cloud hazel
well then
cloud hazel
yeah haha
distant surge
Briar likes swords that go vroom vroom
drowsy vine
New Weapon Takes:
- Chainaxe: Hilarious that the Light Attack Flak modifier is so high, might be better than the old one? Definitely better single target
- Chainsword: Weird lil guy, haven't used it but the attack patterns are very odd
- Ogryn Shovels: Might be new meta, Ogryn getting a true anti-armour melee weapon is huge (can one-shot Crushers with the correct setup)
- Veteran Shovels: I respect anyone who uses these, and the anti-armour capability is great, but the range is so rough
- Eviscerator: It's literally the VT2 Executioner Sword and that fucks actually
- Revolver: I'm not sure it's better than the old Revolver in any particular aspect but it's really fun to use and I'm here for it
mint yew
My take on the chainaxe is that the equivalent Eviscerator is just better, but the attack patterns are good
drowsy vine
I mean Vet can take it too
mint yew
Might have a place there then, as something that can chunk armour for an autogun build
drowsy vine
Yeah I think it's got a distinct place on a Weapon Specialist build
drowsy tusk
New Weapon Takes:
- Chainaxe: Hilarious that the Light Attack Flak modifier is s...
My new weapon takes:
Shovel zealot is the best class
opaque crown
The new assault chain axe is kind of great to have as a vet, to be able to easily melee crushers
Without krak
Costs you a lot of crowd management though
hushed glade
If you aren't taking kraks you could just have your crowd management be an infinite supply of frag grenades
opaque crown
you can actually one shot a crusher with vet chainaxe, even without right side tree
just need the bleed stacks blessing
and possibly anti carapace
its a dirty one shjot
marsh gyro
Thunderous (brittleness on hit) and Thrust (big heavies) is what I use as general purpose on the new chainaxe
stable whale
Trying to evaluate which of these new chainswords is better on base stats for upgrading, anyone have any suggestions? I'm leaning towards the blue one but maxed cleave is giving me pause
mint yew
If you get one big cleave blessing, either will have more than enough cleave for most purposes
I would go with left
Pen 50% I don't like the look of
stable whale
I might be entirely wrong, but I feel like if I NEED something armoured to die I just hit the rev button. Pen seems like the least bad dump stat here
distant surge
gals knight
stable whale
Ended up doing up the blue one, seems decent
I don't know if it hits any breakpoints, this swings pretty hard already, but I'm not saying no to more poxwalker damage. Blessings are probably gonna have to go but I need to find good ones
plush basalt
Has this been posted already?
it's still unlisted, but it's in my launcher
I don't remember who called it as a third mission, but I expect the same
marsh gyro
This is a real solid base, for 300 plasteel more you can replace the Stamina with Flak damage or weak spot damage and can put any rank 4 blessing over the rank 2 and it'll carry you a long time
soft summit
I mean it feels all but confirmed we're getting a Ranick Twin dual boss fight soon
The "event" is equal parts setup and playtest
opaque crown
Thunderous (brittleness on hit) and Thrust (big heavies) is what I use as genera...
i'm running Thunderous and Bloodletter atm
marsh gyro
That's a really really good shovel
foggy latch
distant surge
that's storm bolter?
distant surge
foggy latch
no thats a heavy bolter
distant surge
catachan folks can catry astartes bolters can't they?
or at least it happened before?
opaque crown
oh i thought you said "whats a storm bolter" lol not "thats a storm bolter" my b
yeah thats just a heavy bolter
distant surge
cool cool
opaque crown
and catachans do just be built different often times
foggy latch
a storm bolter is
distant surge
ya need to be built different to survive catachan
opaque crown
i do also think that that model is Sgt Harker, who is a named character
and so may represent exceptional capability
rather than what might be considered normal for a catachan guardsman
opaque crown
ogryn can absolutely carry one, but apparently its either too complex of a weapon or too valuable of a weapon to hand them to ogryns militarily
i think ogryns working for wealthy benefactors independently may have access if they wanted
or if provided
distant surge
good thing our rejects fit the bill
distant surge
there's a lot of potential for cool ogryn weapons
hushed glade
We already saw the Third mission in the Carnival
And this vox thing confirms it I think
It's going to be you thrown into a gladiator arena with the Karnnak Twins
opaque crown
or guided into ones, they're been fragging with our comms
so it makes sense that we might fight our way into a trap arena
plush basalt
ohh, so that new shovel does lose a bit of the crowd control with heavies. Hm, gonna have to adapt. It's so fun to instakill heavies with it tho
marsh gyro
Goes good with a Kickback
opaque crown
shovel returns to being a jack of trades pick
I do think ogryn shovel is a game changer
in terms of giving ogryn a dedicated crusher smasher
to let them know who is really the biggest boy
plush basalt
Goes good with a Kickback
Yep, that's what I'm pairing it with.