ULTRAKILL

[true badger]

spoiler for level select images

holy shit done all of them

[honest cairn]

YEAH

also in 8-2 ||there's a secret dev room in the roofs of the intro area. couldn't grab a screenshot but it has a bunch of the devs working in the portal mines||

[true badger]

||hahaha||

also yeah in general in 8-2 ||If you touch the ceilling you'll see the room you find yourself into at the end of 8-4||

[honest cairn]

||makes you wonder if anything in fraud is real||

[true badger]

Also in ||the Powers|| terminal entry we have:

||Ashamed of their incomplete bodies, they use a part of their energy to always carry a useless gold arm with them in order to look more like the fully formed archangels they aspire to be. ||
||more teasing for the yellow arm variant I think||

[honest cairn]

8-3 secret zone stuff

||what. the. fuck.||

[true badger]

8-1 ||fullbright statue||

[honest cairn]

sidenote ||Deathcatchers can and will ressurect/spawn any sandbox enemy, including bosses||

||except for v2||

lmao

[umbral musk]

Lmao

Also,

[iron stream]

lmao

[umbral musk]

I legitimately do not know how they programmed this

No wonder it took so long

Also this is gonna be a nightmare to P-Rank

[iron stream]

just the routing is going to be hell (lol)

[umbral musk]

Well that's a start

[sweet pebble]

Just the thought of programming this gives me an aneurysm

Genuinely how the fuck?

They’ve got mechanics in here most games would dedicate their entire development time to

For a single floor gimmick

[umbral musk]

8-2 is the one I am probably gonna struggle p-ranking

1 and 4 are at least simple once you get them, and 3 is at least linear for the most part

and yeah

[true badger]

8-4

[little sonnet]

how much you wanna bet they'll ||pump his shit up tremendously like they did with levi||

[tiny pelican]

i'd be mildly surprised if there was any kind of redesign like that

rework to tweak some actual behavior, yeah. but the old textures were pretty scuffed looking and these ones aren't (both enemy & arena/environment textures)

[mint fulcrum]

With two layers done it feels like a theme of Act 3 is ||"No Reason"||

||Which fits the absurdist bent the game leans on. War- without reason. Fraud- literally 'in the absence of ΛΟΓΟΣ'.||

||Entire book in hell where Itself denigrates reason, as a concept.||

Wonder if ||the final layer is going for the angle that even killing hell would be 'for no reason at all'. Godfist Suicide -> even suicide doesn't solve 'The Absurd'.|| 🤔

[mint fulcrum]

😳

[livid vale]

wait what did they change for levi?

[tiny pelican]

nothing huge

just a retexture and the second phase now has a cooler arena

it used to be only the dock for the entire fight

added when they went back through all of layers 0-6 and just retextured things/added minor qol bits or shortcuts

[livid vale]

oh wow, looking forward to my restart

[mint fulcrum]

I can already imagine the new tech being used in P-3 for something like ||Invisible Deathcatchers you have to triangulate by looking at reflections||.

||Invisible sentries. Sentries shooting at you through non-euclidian space.||

[ebon pagoda]

Just finished fraud

Incredibly cool

My jaw was on the floor the whole time

I'm scared for Treachery cuz this was already super hard

Minus the final fight but it was sick so it's okay

[tiny pelican]

ok, 8-1 and 8-4 P-ranked on brutal. didn't do the two long ones yet, that's more than tonight's work i think

but holy shit. i cannot believe i did not realize you can parry pink attacks (||the orb from providences/geryon||)

that makes those so much more interesting to fight LOL, i guess i just misread the pink attack tooltip in 7-4 and never looked back, since beam attacks aren't parryable categorically

[honest cairn]

you can also ||whiplash providence orbs to get health||

[tiny pelican]

yeah, that one the game basically forces you to learn

i'm mostly confused that i did not see the pink orb with the same skull/face thing on every OTHER parryable projectile, and go "hmm i should be parrying that"

that knowledge makes 8-4 uh. much easier, to say the least

[verbal mortar]

think i may just wait for treachery

i want to do a full playthrough from 1.0

[mint fulcrum]

reading online takes Wow, Minotaur's disliked?

kind of surprising

I thought it was frustrating but in a 'love to hate' way. Liked it's phase 1 more than it's phase 2 for sure, esp on the p-ranking.

I like that it made me have to adapt to it

[verbal mortar]

i didnt find it that hard

and the music made it worth it

[sharp pewter]

I didn’t actually mind it that much

However: I am a buzz saw fan and those are very good in that fight

[sweet pebble]

I’m trying so hard ||not to horny post about the powers||

||spoilers are truly the only thing stopping me||

[little sonnet]

i despise that bastard

*in phase one

[kindred hamlet]

Minotaur has dope boss music

[true badger]

8-2 Secret|| book||

[tiny pelican]

i personally just don't like bosses with weird or very specific spots you gotta shoot it otherwise it all bounces off

phase 2 mino is totally chill. phase 1 is just an annoying fight. not crazy difficult but annoying

[sharp yarrow]

Hey I have a friend thats struggling with ||the mirror demon-y boss fight thingy?|| do y'all have any tips or tricks?

[uneven briar]

CHAT

[sharp pewter]

||Apply buzz saws to floor. It always works||

[uneven briar]

I
I BEG OF YOU

HOW DO I KILL THE ||MIRROR BEAST|| ON BRUTAL

[sharp yarrow]

They are free of their internet issues!

[uneven briar]

NO, NO I AM NOT
I SAW WHERE YOU LINKED ME

[sharp yarrow]

I didnt know if you were capable of sending texts

I had assumed you weren't

[uneven briar]

if i could clip this
I would
Because...
Hm...
Sure, I can try switching to saws on my nailgun

I do miss out oj the conductor, though...

Haaah

[sharp pewter]

Saw traps are legit just So Much Stored Damage

[uneven briar]

I do not uave time for stored damage, I have hard damage on my boots and claws on my wings

...haaah
No, sorry, still fuming
Alright

Ill try that

[elder torrent]

It was really funny finishing up raid in FFXIV and then hopping on the new Ultrakill update, getting to 8-3, and finding out that ||Idyllic Dream is here too (signature attack of one of the bosses in FFXIV is constantly swapping between 2 dimensions with different things going on in each)||

[uneven briar]

NO

FUCK THIS

ENOUGH

Ultrakill

[ancient shadow]

||I can't escape Lindwurm even in hell ||

[little sonnet]

yes, thats the point

[mint fulcrum]

I really like the irony that ||the punishment in Fraud is mankind subjected to things it doesn't have the tools to process. The punishment of Fraud is Hell showing you it's truth.||

[mint fulcrum]

really, phase 2 just gets me nervous because I messed up at least one Prank attempt at it and the exit is right there.

Similar feeling to going for P-2 perfect and getting to the last room before the boss. Easy to lose cool & it feels 8 times worse because its right there.

meanwhile the tram section is very rhythmic

choking. thats the word I'm looking for. phase 2 mino is choke central.

[tiny pelican]

how's your railcoining

[bleak phoenix]

I honestly took like

60 attempts to beat minotaur with P-rank

I kind of just suck ass at the game I wasn't able to P-rank fucking Limbo on Brutal

I need to re-learn how to play the game

[true badger]

Art_Temnelc

[mint fulcrum]

saw this on the reddit

👀

they might actually be cooking. ||That's a great reason for the Noctural Systems to be a moon at all, and the alchemy lion statue being about the tree of life seems important. Violence made a point that thats where blood comes from.||

||and there's a really solid alchemical pun you could make on 'The Three Primes'. Minos as Salt, Sisyphus as Sulfur, P-3 as Mercury? little ominous, thats the one about 'fusibility', and Geryon sets up some reason for hell to experiment with 'multiple minds acting as one'. ||

||mfw I unlock P-3 and the title is "Blood Run Gold" ||

[bleak phoenix]

so are they saying that V1 and Gabriel will fuck and one of them will give birth to the philosopher's stone

[mint fulcrum]

true and real

you have to fuck Gabriel. for alchemy.

it is the WILL! of GOD!

[mint fulcrum]

(& we both know which one would be getting pregnant here. is it even in question.)

[bleak phoenix]

Gabriel, yeah

[mint fulcrum]

I was relistening to his lines after hearing ||the Powers, to see if they had overlap||. All the memes about him as gay for V1 can make you forget that it's not even a meme. He really is just textually Like That.

"Come and fight me like an animal!" 🤨

[bleak phoenix]

"Come get some blood, machine!"

like ok bro

just fuck nasty on-screen already

[wheat bay]

||i think the art for the nocturnal os isn't a moon, it's supposed to look like the shortcut/steam icon for the game. that said i think the name fits this theory, why else would it be that and not like smile os 3.0?||

[mint fulcrum]

||I'm not sure I've ever seen the steam icon, tbh. I thought it was the just the V1 model-head.||

The lion statue plaque is almost more for me, because at first I went "Oh its a cute alchemy reference because fraud is where the alchemists go in Inferno."

but tying it to Ultrakill's setting with ||'The Tree of Life', the holy circulatory system(?)||, that makes it noticeable. ||Why is the creation of blood equated directly with alchemy?||

Love the ||God Statue, too. It's literally so cutes 😍.||

[wheat bay]

P ranked most of prelude and limbo on linient today
Gonna try standard again at some point

[uneven briar]

alright, one more try

if anyone wants to watch, I'll be in the HORUS Hangout

8-2 here we go

[kindred hamlet]

whats up with the skybox here

[uneven briar]

Act 3: Godfist suicide
Layer: Fraud
Part 1: ||Hurtbreak Wonderland||
Rank: Perfect

FUC KYEAH

[spark cradle]

im struggling on brutal so much

how did i ever have the hands for ts

[solid bolt]

Found this and had to share

[uneven briar]

oh shit righ the Jackhammer exists

[little sonnet]

see it would be fine if i didnt have a method to how i play

all three guns of each, one variant (two for revolver)

switch between them whenever the fresh meter gets low

and whenever the jackhammer comes up and all that's left is a providence i thank my past that i chose the one that lets me make hitscan explosions

[tiny pelican]

it will NOT stop me

im doing it anyway

[spark cradle]

oh right i can grapple cancel thanks tiktok comment

[mint fulcrum]

me tbh

[true badger]

https://youtu.be/7ftTIbGX0C0?si=y2vqCJ1V-JfWJkbp

[mint fulcrum]

I haven't really played since it came out. which is fucked up because it's like already my exact playstyle.

Grapple + Greenshotty was how I dealt with Virtues, Mindflayers, & Cerbs for like 90% of my gametime

[mint fulcrum]

I tend to only have 2 gun-colors equipped per, because you get a style bonus the smaller your arsenal is (iirc)

[mighty narwhal]

going off the wiki it's like this:

• only three weapons means freshness multiplier mins out at stale (0.5x)
• only two weapons means it mins out at used (1.0x)
• only one means minimum fresh (1.5x)

[tiny pelican]

your style bonus will be fine as long as you kill things quick and don't only use a single given weapon type (i.e. only use revolver, use rocket launcher too)

and if you're moving fast that helps even more

[spark cradle]

STANDARD PIERCER CAN SPLIT?

woah

[tiny pelican]

splitshot on flashing coin thing? yeah

alt revolver replaces that with 2 instances of damage to the same target, rather than 1 instance to 2 targets

but its all based on which revolver type hits it, i.e. normal or alt/slab, rather than revolver color

[wheat bay]

https://www.tumblr.com/loopy-lupe/794139172076142592/wrap-yourselves-in-robes-of-cellophane-dance-in?source=share

Nathalie F.

Wrap yourselves in robes of cellophane!
Dance in the rainbow of tin!
The emperor's clothes. Refracted to Octillion!
Polyurethane clouds in a plexiglass prism!

-# #my art #ULTRAKILL #V1 ULTRAKILL #Sketched these back in may after 8-1 music reveal but before the actual level was shown #Already had a feeling the layer was going to be really weird with gravity and also thought light prisms and v1 productions could be a thing #i guessed close enough with the upside down endless tunnel though #I picked the art back up after i saw that 8-2 has mirrors #anyway happy 5th anniversary yippeee

Tumblr · Sep 8, 2025, 4:48 PM

i know fanart doesn't usually get posted here but this was too good not to

[true badger]

Man Im washed

[sharp pewter]

||MIRROR REAPERS CANN SPAWN IN THE CYBERGRIND!?!?!?!?||

[true badger]

Yes

||Havent encountere them personally but they are run killers apparently||

[thick pecan]

||FUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK||

||we were kind of banking on them not showing up based on their encyclopedia entry 😭||

[sharp pewter]

||They show up as a Special(same slot Powers and Insurrectionistss and stuff show up in) past round 35||

[thick pecan]

:(

[bleak phoenix]

trying out fraud

20 seconds into level 1

I'm so fucking scared

ULTRAKILL is hard actually

I'm going to do something else and lock in on this later

[tiny pelican]

damn and i thought deathcatchers there were bad

[spark cradle]

I'm still on the first level

[sharp yarrow]

holy shit fruad is terrifying

[wheat bay]

https://youtu.be/rTih9hZUZ4Y?si=_YLK8B4Z6gRjt2VL

[wheat bay]

forgot to mention it but i p ranked prelude and limbo yesterday and the day before

lust has been a bit harder, i keep missing either the 69th enemy on 2-1 or take too long cause i keep messing up the platforming

[lone sequoia]

Just finished fraud

I think

My head hurts

(And I don’t mean the glitches)

Also my wrist

That hurts a lot more

I don’t normally get motion sick but Fraud got me there

It was an incredible layer tbf, like technically speaking despite all the performance issues the level and enemy design are incredibly trippy, cutting edge, and phenomenal.

Did I like it more than violence?… no I still think Violence is my favorite layer. But this one was probably the most technically impressive layer in Ultrakill.

The problem is that all that trippiness and the difficulty skyrocket present here… like idk if I’m gonna be able to P-Rank this ._.

I gotta but holy

I think I need to start unequipping weapons first, figure out my control scheme second, get a mouse with a not broken scroll wheel third, and pray I can figure out how to not completely lose track of what’s happening in Fraud 4 because I still have no idea what the hell I just went through

Like I got the 8-4 challenge on complete accident so there’s that

And I somehow got all the secrets in 8-2

I’m so dizzy

Anyway 8/10 layer gave me irl damage

Also I need to learn how to use rocket launcher because that thing 90% of the time feels more like a hazard and rocket riding… okay well it doesn’t really apply in Fraud but still

[honest cairn]

you can instakill them with a cannonball

[tiny pelican]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqc5XF35cmw

longest level is 8-4, amusingly, for any% (which includes out of bounds)

[lone sequoia]

Also sad thing about my experience in 8-3, ||the door in the space segment that leads to… the rest of it was glitched and wouldn’t open for me. So I had to skip that whole segment just to progress, rocket riding to the final area with the Tree||

[velvet stump]

that happened to me in 8-2 as well, ||with the door after the shopping segment on the second floor bathroom||

[ebon pagoda]

I think that one's a known bug

[kindred hamlet]

i got trapped in ||the Pit there that was supposed to lead to the flooded segment/gluttony segment||

[wheat bay]

something sad i don't think i see people talk about in this game is that humanity did everything right after the end of the final war
they made peace, they fixed the environment, and they rebuilt society
and it all fell apart anyway

my theory is
we know hell got into the humans' communication systems from that one library of babel book from the p-2 arg
and we know hell was coping and seething about the new peace
so i think hell somehow got into humanity's systems and freed the war machines
which would fit with how the fall of humanity was very sudden and how no one prepared for it

[lone sequoia]

Fraud Spoilers (yes this was the best way for me to share this)

[wheat bay]

https://youtu.be/nmKsy69eiCI?si=v1FDdpsTr9vBHDDs

The world in ultrakill be like

[kindred hamlet]

Thats my vibe too

Perhaps thats the Treachery of hell

Hell coped and seethed that people werent inherently evil so it sabotaged the peace humanity achieved

Im still a "V1 is humanity's final revenge on Hell" truther until the final game vindicates or contradicts my theory

[lone sequoia]

Imo, I don’t think it’s necessarily revenge

Violence shows that Death is a rare privilege in Hell

Fraud ||shows that Gerymon (I forgor name) goes on a killing spree that’s hyper coordinated and efficient because they are united by the goal of freeing sinners in Death, not tormenting them.||

I think they unleashed the Machines on Hell, V1 and V2 especially, as a mercy

Hell was full, quite literally, of Sinners who were suffering. Including the last of Humanity who gave the order

V1 and V2 and the rest of the machines were their escape plan

Maybe whoever pulled the trigger on this Betrayed humanity, who held out hope on not being sent to Hell

Maybe we’ll see hints, though nothing direct, about V1 and V2’s awakening in Treachery because their activation in the first place was a story of Treachery of some kind. Even if, in the end, it is freeing the Sinners of Hell.

[kindred hamlet]

Thats my vibe too

Perhaps thats the Treachery of hell

Hell coped and seethed that people werent inherently evil so it sabotaged the peace humanity achieved

Im still a "V1 is humanity's final revenge on Hell" truther until the final game vindicates or contradicts my theory

[tiny pelican]

just figured out why 8-2 was so hard for me for no good reason. ||i've been doing the whole level upside down past the 50% mark, but i thought it was supposed to be played through like that. this level design makes 10x more sense now that i know where i'm supposed to be going||

it also explains why i wasn't getting caught by the OOB trigger and i kept having to reset the level every time i accidentally clipped out (trying to p-rank) - ||i was falling UP forever, so i never hit the bottom of the map or the "whoops sorry about that" trigger newly added||

holy shit is that level so much easier when you're not accidentally doing the challenge

[velvet prawn]

Treachery Boss: Kissinger

[uneven briar]

Kissinger?

hm

I think I'd rather fight against fucken
uh
let me see what the punishment in treachery was...

coldest part in hell, yadda yadda, frozen in ice, bla bla, feet up to being submerged, eternally freezing and suffocating, bla bla

alright

so
I!!!
Want an ice castle.

like in 1-E

[thick pecan]

going back and doing violence p-ranks

[thick pecan]

another one

we already have 7-3 p-ranked

soooo 7-4 time

[thick pecan]

deleting that screenshot because
a) not sure it screen shot
b) might have accidentally screen shot our steam friends/username oops

layer 7 p ranked yipeeeee

probably gonna leave layer 8 for the treachery drop like we did with violence

[pine surge]

replaying through fraud now that the patch is out. fell out of bounds by waling through a door 30 seconds into 8-1

[thick pecan]

it's a little buggy atm

[wheat bay]

pranked gabriel for the first time on my first try tonight, don't know how i did that

also i finally p ranked 2-1 after like 10 tries total

[wheat bay]

(it wasn't my first attempt at p ranking gabe though, i tried a few days earlier)

[thick pecan]

god damn hell yeah

we personally find boss levels easier to p-rank than others just since like
you just gotta get good at the one fight
exceptions being 6-2 (kicked our ass) and 7-4 (||it's basically a normal level||)

[little sonnet]

7-4 is a boss level in the same way that malicious face is a boss.

[shy musk]

Took me about 13 tries to get there, around 8 more to realize what was happening, and beat 8-2 after 30 attempts total

Perhaps I shouldn't have dived into this with Brutal right off the bat after a really long break 🙃

[tiny pelican]

||Mirror Reaper|| toxic projectiles now stop tracking the player after 2 seconds
cybergrind is back on the menu

[swift niche]

I got gifted Ultrakill recently and first let me say... Ultrakill is not the game you wanna come back to after not gaming frequently for years, but I have managed.

I am a very slow player though.

I watched a lot of Ultrakill so I mostly know what I'm going into (except for the newest release) and plenty of secrets, only thing I had to look up was SW's map design cause I was dying way too much.

[livid vale]

now you get to experience all these yourself without a proxy!

[swift niche]

Yeah, so what is the spoiler policy in this chat? New stuff mainly?

I wanna talk about stuff I've done but am only in Lust.

[livid vale]

generally the active members have been well progressed, if you want to err on the side of caution, of course you can spoiler tag as you fit

[swift niche]

I wanna ask cause I can't remember, what's the general opinion on the Slab Revolver?

I think that's the Alternate Revolver's name.

[sharp pewter]

Nuanced

[swift niche]

I swear there was discourse on it cause one of the youtuber's I watched got flammed in the comments for it so he made it his spiteful mission to use it for the rest of the game as like his only weapon.

And I'm using it and honestly... I like it more than the base revolver.

[pine surge]

i personally run slab on the charge version only

coins and the red one i just stick to the standard revolver

[swift niche]

It feels so nice to just tap weaker enemies in one shot.

And I can't consistenly coin shot well so I don't really worry about it.

I actually ran around in Cybergrind and then Sandbox (Kept jumping off the map in Cybergrind) just practicing my coin shots and I am better, but still very inconsistent.

[pine surge]

for ricoshots i'd say moving in a consistent direction/speed helps land them immensely

[swift niche]

My current playstyle is honestly very slow.

I have had some missions be 25 minutes long, but that's a combo of dying a lot and really exploring for secrets on the longer and more complicated levels.

[sharp pewter]

I use standard blue
Standard green
Red slab

I think

[swift niche]

I am not always super slow, but for the most part I am not very jumpy.

Though dealing with Something Wicked and Agony and Tundra kept me moving, and Hideous Mass.

Agony and Tundra were probably one of my hardest challenges so far.

[pine surge]

the double bosses are all fun

[swift niche]

Granted I also am very bad at timing so after a few seconds I always descened into spamming what works best, parrying and whatever alternate weapon seems to feel best.

I should have just used the soap, lol.

So should I get Screwdriver or Malicious Blast when I can afford an upgrade for the Railcannon?

[pine surge]

i think mal blast is better

screwdriver is kinda mid

pretty good against mindflayers since it prevents them from teleporting

[swift niche]

Good to know.

Also I did not expect Sawed-On to be so good.

I actually need to rerun a lot of my levels cause I have missed so many secret orbs.

And I need to get used to the Knuckleblaster, it's just the following missions had a lot of important glass and soon after getting it I accidentally blew up glass beneath my feet and died.

So I slightly dropped it.

I still pull it out occasionally, but it is infrequent.

[pine surge]

very good against hordes of weaker enemies

the explosion can one tap a ton of filths

also some funny tricks you can do with it and coins, but thats less important

[swift niche]

Yeah, I tend to be very inefficient in dealing with hoards of filth.

And I wanna do more stuff with coins, but I can't follow the arc very well and have poor timing.

[pine surge]

i'm assuming you don't have the sawblade launcher yet?

[swift niche]

Nope, I actually stopped for the day after completing the mission before Court of King Minos.

[pine surge]

oh thats one of my favorite levels

[swift niche]

Court of King Minos, or the level right before it?

[lone sequoia]

The spoiler embargo on fraud has been lifted by devs I think but I’d personally adhere to it

[swift niche]

I actually stopped where I did cause I thought the challenge (I think it was don't touch any water) sounded deceptively easy, yet I would get knocked into water near the end every time and I was starting to get annoyed, and since I had something to do in a bit I stopped for the day. Did the same when I was struggling with Something Wicked.

[lone sequoia]

I think if you play Slower, Screwdriver is better. Mal is definitely better for higher level gameplay, however recent buffs have made screwdriver way more competitive with the other variants. 2 reasons:

1. It builds up style FAST, and the higher your style is, the quicker hard damage heals, with hard damage healing instantly at Ultrakill

2. The addition of Conduction has given Screwdriver a few extra interactions, which is helpful with Jumpstart. That, and now you can parry it into other enemies.

The healing is also pretty useful and I think it’s baseline total damage is higher than the other two variants- combos make the damage much smaller in comparison but if you’re not doing tricks screwdriver has more damage.

[pine surge]

its the one where you fight the corpse of minos, right?

i might be misremembering it

[lone sequoia]

Screwdriver also disables the quicker movement of certain enemies

[swift niche]

I think so.

And good to know.

[lone sequoia]

I’ve actually been seeing clips of higher level Ultrakill players using Screwdriver regularly compared to Malicious

[pine surge]

oh interesting

i don't think i've really checked its changes out yet

[swift niche]

Also I am like never seeing much style, tbh. I am slow.

[pine surge]

jumpstart can go absolutely crazy against crowds in the right situations, love that thing

[lone sequoia]

Jumpstart is kinda broken

But conduction in general is broken and is also a product of the Electric Railcannon

[lone sequoia]

If you feel like you’re struggling with healing and waiting out hard damage, Screwdriver will be an investment worth taking

If that’s not a concern, then Malicious will be useful in speeding things up against crowds

[swift niche]

Fair enough, they are both quite expensive though.

And I tend to purchase upgrades in order of gun pick ups.

[lone sequoia]

However if yoj haven’t unlocked all the non-Railcannon variants yet, I’d say put the Railcannon on hold. Electricnis by far the most potent variant now with the Full Arsenal additions

Purely thanks to conduction

You can learn how conduction works on your own, or look up a guide.

I think you’ll only really need to start looking up higher level strats when you start trying to chase P-Ranks

[swift niche]

Fair enough, idk if I've ever do that tbh.

Especially since I am only just getting back into consistent casual gaming.

[lone sequoia]

Knowing Slam Storage and Rocket Riding is pretty essential in my opinion however purely so you can have more freedom when exploring levels

[swift niche]

Fair enough.

[lone sequoia]

But I’m sure you’re aware they exist

[swift niche]

Rocket Riding yes, but Slam Storage is only familiar in name.

[pine surge]

you jump while slamming against the edge of the wall

you stop falling so fast but the game still calculates how much height you get from jumping right after slamming as if you were falling normally

so when you jump you get launched upwards very, very high

[swift niche]

Cool.

[lone sequoia]

The exact order of operations is:

1. Fall next to wall
2. Slam
3. Jump afterwards. You’ll know it worked because you’ll be emitting the falling particles while falling normally. You don’t need to do anything else but wait to land at this point, though you can move around.
4. About after you land, jump. It doesn’t have to be at the same time you land, it can be after, but you shouldn’t wait longer than a second.
5. Be launched.

[swift niche]

Interesting.

[ebon pagoda]

If you slide at the same time you do the second jump you get the same effect but horizontal

[pine surge]

you can also start slide jumping after landing if you want horizontal speed instead of vertical

[ebon pagoda]

Yeah lol

[swift niche]

I also gotta actually try at Cybergrind, I was using it to sharpen some skills but I somehow magically die at the second wave every single time from launching myself off the side of the map.

So I started training in sandbox.

Bigger area you can't fall off of, easily anyway.

I am going to bed, annoyingly busy tomorrow, early too.

[pine surge]

nighty night

[little sonnet]

just p ranked 8-1 and uh

i think fraud was designed for me

[tiny pelican]

the only real conduction thing u gotta know is sawblade + jumpstart nailgun. that's it. you don't need to worry about using coins rockets etc. at all unless you're specifically trying to speedrun p ranks, since they're hard to make use of when moving quickly

[shy musk]

I agree so much that I'm honestly tempted to switch to the green slab, especially with its most recent buff

[shy musk]

There's a few unused keybinds the devs added in for personalization's sake. I found it more comfortable dropping the "switch arms" one then binding "punch with feedbacker" and "punch with knuckleblaster" to separate buttons for lesser delay + fewer accidents. Maybe that'll make it comfier for you too?

[swift niche]

Maybe, we will see, if I can remember.

I forget the damage of some weapons is affected by speed, will have to keep that in mind.

[lone sequoia]

Yeah Green Slab is good now, as is Normal Piercer

Slab’s now have the same swap gimmick shotguns do, meaning you can rapid fire swap between 3 slab revolvers to skip the recharge. And now if you hit the split shot on a coin with a revolver, it instead makes the attack hit the target twice and immediately skips the refresh on all Slab Pistols as V1 gives the pistol a lil spin

I think Marksman being slab has a specific interaction too but I don’t recall

[swift niche]

Hitting coins is so hard cause it's hard to follow the arc, but worse is that I end up frequently just flicking them into the wall or ceiling and wasting them.

Thus why when I first started playing I hung out in Sandbox just running around in circles shooting coins into the giant mob of filth and strays I placed.

[lone sequoia]

If you throw them straight down during a jump it tends to just fly with you

[swift niche]

Interesting.

[thick pecan]

our standard loadout (which has remained unchanged since the update to be clear,) is

1. standard green
2. alt blue
3. alt red
   personal reasoning, green is the one you generally want to have out and want to have out quickly either for railcoins or to take care of select enemies in your route like streetcleaners, strays, or soldiers (and sometimes drones)
   blue is the one we typically reach for next, for just a big dumb big shot against big enemies. also, by consequence of being the first alt revolver in the sequence, it's the one we use to one-tap small enemies, especially if the green one is growing stale. Big shot for big enemies. Normal shot for drones, soldiers, schisms and the like.
   red we also just kinda use as a big dumb shot, it's easily the one we're the least used to. Great for big bosses in big cylindrical arenas specifically, can be useful for big scattered groups, not terrific in open arenas like the cybergrind. Good fallback if both pistols are stale and you still need to shoot from a distance for whatever reason.

sometimes drones is because that's how it is in our 2-1 p-rank route but usually we use the slab revolver since it's way way easier to just one-tap them from across the room directly

if they're clumped up hitting the sparkle window is way more efficient, but they're less common in later levels generally speaking

[swift niche]

Street Cleaners really do not like to turn around, which is fair, the explosive tanks encourage fast movement to get behind them.

[thick pecan]

it's either that or 🪙

[swift niche]

Fair, I look forward to the puzzle secret mission.

(I am not the best at puzzles.)

[swift niche]

I suspect it's the next one.

[wheat bay]

https://youtu.be/ojGDep3oLFM?si=Zvt3_JiV2eECefLP

[swift niche]

PREPARE-!

[swift niche]

There's an Ultrakill animation am trying to find, it was a hand drawn animation of Minos Prime saying judgement and then running so hard he breaks the ground, V1 tries to parry it (I remember a spring sound vividly here followed an a loud shockwave) before V1 gets blown away.

[swift niche]

I can't find it...

[uneven briar]

don't think it comes to mind

I mean

nothing comes to mind*

ah, whatever

[honest cairn]

too late dave

[kindred hamlet]

Mpreg

M(aurice)preg

[honest cairn]

TRUE

[swift niche]

This is the best addendum I have seen from a CEO ever.

[swift niche]

It sucks cause I was actually gonna share it here. Since I can't find it, I am worrying it got deleted off the internet.

[uneven briar]

With all due respect
I doubt theres such a thing as deleting something off of the Internet

[swift niche]

Yeah, it’s hard to do.

[swift niche]

I beat the corpse of king Minos.

[lone sequoia]

Imo the hand is a harder boss than the boss itself

I’m not saying the boss is easy, I’m saying the hand is difficult and mean

[swift niche]

Yeah, honestly my deaths were mainly me trying to do cool stuff like parrying the punches (which were slow) and trying to do coin stuff.

[swift niche]

Also I did what was mentioned, and put Feedbacker and Knuckleblaster on 2 different keybinds and it does feel much better.

[tiny pelican]

i've got mine on my mouse buttons. agreed, very handy

[swift niche]

I sadly only got 1 and 2, don't even think my mouse has middle mouse button.

[tiny pelican]

ouch :(

[swift niche]

It is an old mouse.

[shy musk]

If it's of any solace I don't recall a middle mouse button being used

Glad the recommendation made the game comfier though

[velvet prawn]

Finished Fraud

It's aight

[swift niche]

I look forward to doing it myself.

[velvet prawn]

INCREDIBLY AIGHT

[swift niche]

Hehe.

[spark cradle]

still cant beat the first level without dying GRAHHH

[tiny pelican]

its time for gratituous abuse of electric sawblades. that solves most problems

[spark cradle]

genuinely so rusty, onto experience 8-2!

i sure hope theres no mindbending horrors here

oh

fuck me

ohhhh my god

whaaat the fuck

what the fuck am i looking at

[pine surge]

theres like a dozen different parts of the level you could be looking at right now and i have no idea which lol

[spark cradle]

gwhuhhhhhhhhhhhh this is melting me

[pine surge]

which part are you at right now?

[spark cradle]

just the beginning 😭

im so dizzy

it's like oh yeah here's one gravity flip

now two in a corridor

now every surface and im like how the fuck do i keep up

[pine surge]

dude just wait until you get to the quadruple leviathan room

[spark cradle]

i dont even want to see a room in that building

[lone sequoia]

You P-Ranked it before moving on? Damn

[spark cradle]

yup

how i play the game

i am a bullheaded creature

[velvet prawn]

S'all about wringing as much joy outta it as possible

[swift niche]

I annoyed myself so hard.

I did the mission in the desert place where you can make it night and accidentally placed some skulls on thw wrong pedestals cause I needed to move some stuff around and then realized you can't swap an item in your hand for something on a pedestal. I did not feel like redoing the leel again.

[wheat bay]

https://youtu.be/hw5uE7F0pyg?si=Ei7IUVHRVwx_B2V9

[honest cairn]

YESSS DECT

[bleak phoenix]

DREAM'S END COME TRUE MENTIONED

[ebon pagoda]

this made me look up dect AND HOLY BEST DECISION I'VE MADE THIS WEEK

[pine surge]

dreams end come true is so goated

[ebon pagoda]

fr

[mint fulcrum]

had to take breaks when trying for P-ranks on P2 for this reason lmao

[tiny pelican]

finally p-ranked all of fraud

i'd put 8-3 as probably harder than both 0-E and 1-E for me. maybe 3rd behind 1-E. P-2 was definitely the harder P rank i've done though, but it was also a long time before encores came out, so i might have just gotten a lot better

[pine surge]

8-3s challenge is a nuisance

[tiny pelican]

8-3 ||dual power arena|| was where i kept choking for no good reason. no clue why

it's not bad, i got it once but that run died - resetting for p rank

you just gotta kill everything else in the room first

amusingly i found that more often than not, with how i did that room, ||it died instantly to ye olde Heavy Light right by the exit. not really sure what part of my kit was breaking chandeliers but something was||

oh yeah, another annoying thign - like 5/20 ish runs died to some schism clipping out of bounds in the first room u see schisms

:(

[pine surge]

when i did the challenge i feel like they got caught on the edge a lot of the time instead of continueing to fall. took like 6ish attempts for me to get it

[tiny pelican]

hm well i'm going for it now intentionally, we'll see how it goes!

[pine surge]

good luck

[tiny pelican]

||walljumped along the wall inside the pit, hugged a corner until it dashed at me||

||lowkey love the doppler effect noises of the terminal velocity falling enemies||

[honest cairn]

||I got that challenge the FIRST time I did the level. Lemme tell ya, after the hell that was the triple power room, this was such a breath of fresh air||

[tiny pelican]

https://youtu.be/xYk9cTL96N8

there's one single minor fraud reference/spoiler inside, mostly just interesting. portals seem to be remarkably robust

presumably this dude has a decent PC but doing weird things like intersecting portals doesn't crash the game or anything

[uneven briar]

I am convinced there is at least one version out there tagged as "do not use" as they realised fhat portals could go through each other and that fried someone's pc

[shy musk]

I love how Minos' hole turns into either a smile or a devious side eye depending on where you focus your gaze

[bleak phoenix]

I don't like you calling it "his hole" /lh

it feels wrong

[shy musk]

Facehole?

[bleak phoenix]

better

[true badger]

Ok yeag, that definitely was my favourite Special level

[thick pecan]

oh shit it's in the game now??

[little sonnet]

nope

just checked

[wheat bay]

it's a joke post from the subreddit

[bleak phoenix]

the prime souls dripped the fuck out

[swift niche]

Awesome.

[sharp yarrow]

so you could say it was fra-

[wheat bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYaajQUe9uQ

[shy musk]

||https://youtu.be/eBTPVUchBRc||

Minor Fraud spoiler

[honest cairn]

I really want to send the "Gabriel talks about his Catholicism and his massive fucking dick" video here

but idk if its too NSFW

in the meanwhile

https://www.tumblr.com/glasg0wned/674220729819152384/versus?source=share

Sweet F.A.

VERSUS

-# #ultrakill #v1 #v2 #newblood #mythings

▶ Play video

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[shy musk]

If I could react with 🔥 twice I would

[sharp pewter]

Fun fact: Sisyphus prime is the only prime soul currently in ultrakill who doesn’t have a real world bacteriophage named after him

[true badger]

Incredible

[shy musk]

Shaking rn

Just finished Fraud

Hoooly fucking shit

Honestly???

When I beat that last level

I was

10000% sure

That there'd be a bait & switch

But no

Whew

Jesus my arms hurt lmao

Never starting a fresh layer on Brutal again

||The stagger bar fills up faster the more "taxing" attacks you make the guardian do. It fills up a decent bit when you make it do the green aura + pink shockwaves by getting real close to it. Managed to stagger pal thrice by making use of the Providence orbs to not die||

[shy musk]

This applies to ||every skybox in Fraud, including the ones in 8-3||

||Honestly, I was wondering when we'd see that theater, cool that hell decided to just warp us there post-show||

[shy musk]

Yeah this was a treat to find

||The implications of the fight were awesome too||

||Sire Ferryman, how did you fall into a similar type of dimensional hole that the mirror reaper creates & traverses?||

[shy musk]

Y e a h

[shy musk]

What I'm wondering is ||where the hell is everyone?||

[little sonnet]

||every punishment on the fraud layer is personalized||

[lone sequoia]

||Hell’s the audience, it’s not like it can be there personally, and like hell it’ll put a sinner there||

[pine surge]

replaying through fraud on brutal

this is an assault on the senses

[mint fulcrum]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nTut7gl5UPI?si=WatoO7uipDj8WVFp

lets all go to layer 9 on ??? and order the sisyphus burger

the look on gabriel, O gabriel's face will be epic

[mint fulcrum]

I saw ||someone mention that some of the environmental textures have 'meat'-like innards visible in the cross sections, so maybe they're folded into the non-euclidean environments somehow and make up the layer itself||

||the Mirror Reaper does seem like multiple husks melded together, so it'd fit for what happened to the rest||

[uneven briar]

but a spider!!

[uneven briar]

the best part is

both us, the players, and hell, all collectively agree that this layer was absolute cinema

||literally||

[sharp pewter]

Well the hotwheels Sisyphus is named after Sisyphus the mythological and philosophical figure

The bacteriophage is named after the one from ultrakill specifically

[true badger]

Animal Cracker Prime P-3

[honest cairn]

Thanks hakita

[lone sequoia]

We need to let devs shitpost in peace we can’t have friend inside me 2

[mint fulcrum]

"hmm I'm kinda damaged enough to need some hp but its not too bad, let me check to see if there's any blood around to fill up on"

the reliable sinner husk:

[sharp yarrow]

??

[sharp pewter]

Toby Fox made a toy story parody called Friend Inside Me with a black and white woody

itt was just a shitpost, but everyone tried to connect it to deltarune

[mint fulcrum]

their bigger crime was being unfunny about it

I hope Hakita keeps shitposting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNY1Mc43do

its funny

[honest cairn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/reconstruct-what-ultrakill

I strive to be as funny as hakita one day

[mint fulcrum]

whoever made this was up there

[mint fulcrum]

+QUICKDRAW
+MULTIKILL x4
+RICOCHET x2
+TRUTHNUKE

[lone sequoia]

So I was thinking about it-

Sisyphus, in relation to eternal damnation, lives on the lips of all who engage in a Western Cultural Zeitgeist. He’s the guy who pushes the Boulder, the eternal human struggle, futility incarnate. He’s in Ultrakill because his legacy is defined by his damnation, and he is a prime soul because he was a great man despite that. He’s there because he’s too perfect a fit to not be there.

… so why is King Minos in Ultrakill? How does he thematically connect to Ultrakill?

[sharp pewter]

He is the judge of hell in dante's inferno

and he is a father who damned his own son in greek myth

[lone sequoia]

Hm. Okay okay.

I’m trying to use this to see what the Prime Souls have in common historically

Cause if there’s a pattern, that could give insight into P-3

[sharp pewter]

a friend of mine pointed out that Virgil would be funny

[wheat bay]

virgil isn't a king though
the other 2 prime souls are mythological kings

[sharp pewter]

tthats true

[lone sequoia]

The thing is P-3 is such a mystery-

It can’t be Lucifer because Hakita has gone on record saying it’s not Lucifer, we don’t know if it even will be a Prime Soul, and for some reason the fact that Ultrakill’s themes do revolve around sex and gender to a degree (The Father, the Angel’s dynamic with Gender, Mindflayers, V1 having a womb, the Gutterman Poem calling its host its mother, the agender nature of most of the machines) and the gaping absence of women in general from Ultrakill almost makes me suspect P-3 could be “Eve Prime” as a crack theory

But the other 2 prime souls were Kings, and more notably, Greek

Completely unrelated to Christianity for the most part, at least during their own lifetimes

Also I do not recall if Hakita has gone on record to say if he’s read Dante’s Inferno or not

[wheat bay]

i think he said something about having read a summary

[sharp pewter]

I wonder if ultrakill heaven follows paradiso name/structure wise

like if not beat for beat

[lone sequoia]

Considering how ||Disintegration Loop excludes all the planets not from the Paradiso, it’s safe to say yes and that Heaven is indeed space||

[lone sequoia]

I doubt it will be Eve Prime, Hell may not predate Humanity in Ultrakill, but it would be thematically interesting. Eve committed treachery against god as the first sinner, and Hell has not infrequently hinted at having more feminine connotations as a sort of joke against God and the fact He’s traditionally masculine. The fact that a woman would be given Hell’s first lashings because of God’s own prejudices would be interesting

But I don’t think Ultrakill is really even playing in that space as a primary theme- gender as a theme in Ultrakill is more subtle and minor than that

[sharp pewter]

Tantalus or Solomon are my two biggest picks

for P-3

[mighty narwhal]

my current crack hypothesis is that p-3 will involve the angels attempting to seal v1 in a flesh oubliette, which it'll need to fight its way out of

[swift niche]

Solomon would be cool, Tantalus is unfamiliar though.

[sharp pewter]

Greek Mythological King, feeds the gods soup with his own son as the meat, gets banished to tarturus to be ever hungry and thirsty, in a hot spring with a grape tree.

The tree getting taller anytime he reaches for the grapes
the water receeding aanytime he tries to drink

[lone sequoia]

Tantalus doesn’t sound like he’d be in Treachery though- he’d be in Gluttony and Gluttony was all the way back in Act 1

But I don’t recall where he is in Dante’s

[sharp pewter]

well my thought is that he isn't a cannibal, he tricked other people into doing cannabalism

[lone sequoia]

Ah yeah fair

And Sisyphus was punished in Greed but imprisoned in Heresy, and Minos was punished in Lust and imprisoned in Gluttony

Where they were punished doesn’t really map into where they’re imprisoned

[swift niche]

Ah, that punishment is familiar.

[lone sequoia]

But if Tantalus was imprisoned in an earlier layer I’d assume we’d get foreshadowing by now

So I assume whatever 3rd Prime Soul there is would be punished and imprisoned in Treachery

[sharp pewter]

well our Foreshadowing is that someone made Minotaur for Minos

I think

unless that was Hell

[lone sequoia]

Either Hell or Lucifer, one of the two

[sharp pewter]

that is very possible

[swift niche]

Hell certainly has a sense of humor.

[lone sequoia]

I’ve personally never read Hell as hateful tbh

[swift niche]

A twisted one though.

[lone sequoia]

I think it feels adoration, joy, mania, love, for all things that can suffer and for suffering itself

[sharp pewter]

alternatively its this and its a gank fight against the other archangels and they take turns fighting you and then pulling back like The Powers

[swift niche]

Also I don’t know the lore very well, Ultrakill has a Lucifer?

[mighty narwhal]

he gets mentioned in a book

[sharp pewter]

Yeah they ar mentioned in Fraud

[lone sequoia]

Like the Violence layer, it considers itself an artist, its canvas its body and its paints its denizens

[swift niche]

Ah ok, not watched or played Fraud yet, makes sense then (I don’t care about spoilers, no worries).

[little sonnet]

i'd be willing to bet he will be in the game, but not as a fight

just a setpiece

[lone sequoia]

I can’t really see Hell hating anyone tbh, more just loving the way they bleed

[sharp pewter]

Also there is like, a big shrine to the archangels in Fraud but one of them is wrecked/scratched out

[swift niche]

Ah, that would do it.

[lone sequoia]

As Violence shows, until the machines showed up and started emptying hell, death was a rare privilege in Hell, yet now it reigns indiscriminately as they empty Hell of sinners. You’d think Hell would be upset by this but it’s not just letting this happen, it’s facilitating it

[swift niche]

Hell creating the horror that is the Mannequins, bleed they do.

[swift niche]

Is it merciful?

[lone sequoia]

Death or Hell? Hell absolutely is not, but Death absolutely is

Fraud has a thing about it

But Hell puts a lot of effort into ensuring its denizens don’t die, with Mannequins being the punishment for trying to escape Violence, through death or otherwise.

Yet in Ultrakill, Hell is encouraging V1 to make itself empty

[swift niche]

I see.

I meant death in hell though, yes.

[sharp pewter]

I kinda hope this one is the case because they gave the archangels really cool charecter designs and I would love to speak with them and match blades

[swift niche]

That’s how we get the golden arm.

[lone sequoia]

I find it unlikely V1 isn’t actually killing Hell’s denizens as Gabriel remarks the machines are emptying Hell of all life, and I doubt souls that die in Hell just go to Hell again otherwise Hell wouldn’t be able to be emptied nor try and avoid killing its denizens. Meaning Hell is either trying to be theatrical or poetic, sees the entertainment granted by V1 as greater than eternally tormenting all its denizens (most likely), or Hell grew a sense of compassion or is bored with existence (unlikely)

[lone sequoia]

My suspicions of what the Golden Arm will be based on Hakita’s philosophy of “what would be most fun”:

• Slide Upgrade, since compared to aerial combat sliding is actually pretty uncommon
• Wall sliding, which is kinda like wall running
• Second Railcannon
• Parry literally everything
• Double Jump/Glide
• Catch parried projectiles to throw later

[swift niche]

Grabbing a coin punch.

[true badger]

I'm still thinking Odysseus is a possible pick for P3

[mint fulcrum]

I personally see Minos as just as futile as Sisyphus, within the story

both are reactions to the existence of Hell

Sisyphus struggles against it, Minos tries to make it nicer- neither work. Possibly, neither could work.

[lone sequoia]

Minos in Ultrakill, I agree, but outside of Ultrakill, what do they have in common? Why is Minos in Ultrakill in the first place?

[mint fulcrum]

Historically its pulling less from King Minos' myth but he doesn't have the Camus essay like Sisyphus does

Really it is probably the fact that he is a judge in Dante's Inferno, so he's given this position of authority within the system in the game

I guess the next place you'd want to look would be why Dante made him that?

but I don't know enough about his context to say

[mint fulcrum]

I think it's hate-full in that it is made of God's malice, but doesn't really specifically dislike the people it wraps up in it's entertainment

it doesn't hate, it is hate. And that bleeds into everything it does.

Sort of similar to how the machines don't need to hate the things they kill & drink the blood of. It's just the nature of how they're built.

[swift niche]

You don’t have to agree with something your very existence perpetuates.

But it does affect your work.

[mint fulcrum]

I do think it's magnum opus is its own grand suicide

It's like the book it probably wrote in Violence- this was the only way it could have ended. This was the way it should have ended, permanently.

Everything tied up in a nice perfect knot. All the creations of the world killing each other in an orgy of blood, and then killing hell itself, and then running dry of blood.

"Godfist Suicide"

That it's meaningless seems to be at least part of why Hell would like it

[shy musk]

V1 HAS A WOMB???

[shy musk]

I don't remember this being in their terminal entry, hm...was this in a book?

[tiny pelican]

v1 does not have a womb

its a joke/stupid game theory from people taking random background one line of one passage/etc. too literally

the mannequin thing is from their terminal entry yeah

[lone sequoia]

Ya know I should’ve fact checked that. Tbh when I first saw it I kinda just accepted it due to the Gutterman poem and thought “ah that’s probably where they keep the blood” or something

[tiny pelican]

95% of ultrakill lore theories etc. out there on the internet are literally majority made up/"speculation"

there's very little concrete in the game especially in act 1/2 that actually says much about the background lore

i think ppl always want to assume the game is written w the lore as a major driving factor rather than as a cool action game w background lore

[shy musk]

I'll confess to that sin yeah

It's just so good though

[mint fulcrum]

I think it's got a strong core theme it wants to hammer, but the details aren't the important bit

You can pick most of it up through the vibes

it is pretty good at taking stuff that was probably just for the cool action and turning it into cool lore though. Blood is Fuel -> the Primes keeping a heart -> The 'Tree of Life'

Using the Earthmovers as a tie to the centaurs from Inferno, and also giving the Final War mentioned since the start a dramatic setpiece ending

The ferrymen..... 😍

[mint fulcrum]

It did kinda retcon lore back into the start of the game with the graphics update

mostly thinking of the murals added to Limbo that really blatantly depict some Hell = Eyes stuff

[kindred hamlet]

hell is perception?

[mint fulcrum]

I forget what is was before, I think just generic stained glass

[mint fulcrum]

or at least it sees, so you can assume it's an individual?

It's not just a place, it is something that can watch

I think it's got some solar imagery too

last ones a bit of a reach, but after the stained glass & this poster

"Son of Soul" is just a little

Not really sure whats going on here, except that Sun = God = Dead is probably true enough in Ultrakill

maybe hell ate him or something idk

[sharp yarrow]

v1 has a what now

when was this revelaed 😭

[untold garnet]

It doesn’t have a womb

Mr GM ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883762876813392 message) v1 has a what now

[sharp yarrow]

damn

😔

[true badger]

The menu screen

[mint fulcrum]

~~Never give up ❗ keep trying to get that robot pregnant anyway ❗ ~~

[blissful quail]

probably more of a poetic "blood of the womb", the "womb" being the creation process of V1

[mint fulcrum]

I mean, it might actually still have a womb-like organ thing inside

the Earthmovers do

wouldn't be surprised if all machine innards look like this

[untold garnet]

It should be noted that Hakita had a crash out over this when it first came up

[tiny pelican]

even if the menu screen actually legitimately referenced v1 having a womb it still wouldn't make it guaranteed true

ultrakill isn't an arg, not every random thing that could possibly be lore is real lore, sometimes its just there to look cool

[mint fulcrum]

ya I don't think there's a literal womb

but for unrelated reasons I think you could definitely assume its got some meat in that torso

[tiny pelican]

sure, im mostly talking about - there is 99% chance no greater meaning behind the majority of the minor design details/decorations in most of the game

[mint fulcrum]

the style is the substance, unironically and not as a pejorative

[tiny pelican]

and ppl really gotta stop coming up w conspiracy theories about how like, angels n humans are directly conflicting factions and thats why there's no encounters that include both at once

which was something i saw ages ago when ultrakill had a total of 4 layers released

and was provably not true even then

[lone sequoia]

Tbh my original train of thought was less “oooh this points to a conspiracy theory” and more “this feels thematically coherent with the way Femininity is portrayed in Ultrakill as a whole”

[tiny pelican]

this stuff is mostly spread by reddit posts/youtube videos where half the audience hasn't even played the game, otherwise it'd be a lot more clear that this stuff is made up out of whole cloth

[tiny pelican]

i mean. I don't think ultrakill says anything particularly meaningful about femininity at all that's not a massive reach

[mint fulcrum]

I don't know if I'd ever specifically thought about Femininity in Ultrakill, except that all the voiced characters were dudes (and what that says about society)

[tiny pelican]

there's basically no real discussion of gender or identity anywhere but like mind flayer and power terminal entries and iirc one other place

[mint fulcrum]

something you could probably dig more into with the new angel stuff, especially in contrast to the Mindflayers

[tiny pelican]

and its hakita has said before mind flayers look like that bc theyre cool

[lone sequoia]

It feels like gender has some thematic elements in Ultrakill, minor as they are, but I can’t quite pinpoint what it could be

[mint fulcrum]

I tend to personally read the Mindflayers more as a humanity thing than specifically a gender-thing

but the latter\ is definitely there

[lone sequoia]

Well I’m choosing to read into things more and come up with my own funky interpretations I suppose

Less theorizing and more literary analysis I suppose

[mint fulcrum]

They look like that because they're succubi, because they're the minibosses of Lust

[tiny pelican]

yeah, im referring to specifically them being green robots with boobs - they're the lust enemies but the exact design details are just bc they look cool, they're not meant to model anything else specific

there's a quote in the hakita google drive dump whne smbdy asked if theyre supposed to look like one of those famous ecclesiastical sculptures

[lone sequoia]

Whether intentional or not, the way Power lore commentates on gender just makes me sorta suspect you could make some kinda reading about gender from Ultrakill

[mint fulcrum]

They are pretty important to the themes ||and such|| that Ultrakill really goes back to in violence

Mindflayers are one of the most direct and in-your-face examples of the machines being 'human-like' you can find

[lone sequoia]

Going further with it and how not once but twice Machines have defined their blood repositories as wombs (V1 and the Guttermen), it just feels like there’s something there

[mint fulcrum]

and probably more importantly becoming more human. probably through the blood.

[tiny pelican]

my point is just. there's nothing wrong w looking at ultrakill through as a piece of art to analyze for themes

[mint fulcrum]

birth and creation, maybe. The machines are as alive as anything else with blood, and all living things were born.

[lone sequoia]

But in Ultrakill, God is Masculine and gave birth to, well, everything

[tiny pelican]

but if u start extending that to "i think this is what's going on in ultrakill because it makes sense" then you've lost the plot

[lone sequoia]

And if Hell ends up taking on more feminine connotations as a sort of Foil to God in the future, the fact that Hell struggles to make anything original would be an interesting contrast

Or inversion

[mint fulcrum]

MORAL: women = evil

[lone sequoia]

Nooooo

I think the fact that Hakita and the game are very insistent about the genderlessness of most all the characters is also noteworthy to me

The Machines, the Angels, the Demons, and some of the husks too

The only characters who actively embrace a gender of any kind are the prime souls tbh

[tiny pelican]

i mean i think genuinely half of that is bc keep asking him stupid questions about it

[lone sequoia]

Oof

I hope that’s not the only reason because I do think the way gender is handled in Ultrakill is genuinely quite interesting

[lone sequoia]

And maybe the Mindflayers

[mint fulcrum]

the Angels count imo

[tiny pelican]

like the quote about that is because people kept asking about if the machines have genders and it was crazy annoying on one of the dev streams iirc

[lone sequoia]

Not really imo- they treat gender as more a title to be bestowed than a persona/role to embrace

[mint fulcrum]

textually their pronouns are a cultural sign of closeness to god, that's commentary on their gender identity more than any machines get

[lone sequoia]

True

[tiny pelican]

which is when he said "machines don't have gender, v2 has no gender so pronouns dont matter. using female pronouns is based though" or something like that

[mint fulcrum]

like the fact they 'earn' masculinity is also interesting

to be a he/him angel is to be marked as a better angel than the other ones

[tiny pelican]

where's that from?

[mint fulcrum]

you can definitely do some reads into that lol

[mint fulcrum]

"Although some of their voices may seem distinctly feminine to humans, angels are neither male nor female, as they cannot reproduce, leading to no such biological division. Still, masculine language is used as a sign of respect towards greater angels as a sign of their closeness to the Father."

[lone sequoia]

It’s not a direct quote but the fact that higher ranking angels earn a more masculine gender lets you kinda read between the lines

[tiny pelican]

greater angels isnt a nobility title, its a species category

[mint fulcrum]

Power terminal data

yes

but they are higher ranked

[tiny pelican]

angels are confirmed to not evolve or behave like pokemon

[lone sequoia]

But angels can ascend from one species to another

[mint fulcrum]

they are more powerful, they have more influence

[lone sequoia]

Wait really?

[tiny pelican]

i would have said that was directly unconfirmed

[lone sequoia]

Okay I read the Angel lore very wrong then

[mint fulcrum]

they look more human, they are more like a 'person', they use He/Him

[tiny pelican]

im pretty sure its been stated that the angels like virtues and shit are just. different guys than the archangels and shit

[mint fulcrum]

at a point it stops mattering what Hakita might've meant, I'm just reading the text

[tiny pelican]

they're just different types of guy, theres no promotions

[lone sequoia]

Are Powers supposed to be Human Souls ascended to angelhood, like the Virtues? Or are they “true angels”?

[tiny pelican]

cuz ppl have asked before if gabriel has always been gabriel and idk if it got answered

[mint fulcrum]

even here there is an element of inferiority,
"Due to their past lives as humans, Virtues are often sent to complete tasks that greater angels deem below them or otherwise uninteresting, such as acting as wardens in Hell."

Greater Angels are 'superior' to lesser angels

[lone sequoia]

They aren’t the same rank as Gabriel and the golden arm lore suggest to me they can never be the same rank as Gabriel

[tiny pelican]

yes, the difference is that there's no earning or anything

[mint fulcrum]

probably true, I personally never assumed there was

Virtues are prior humans, Gabe is clearly something else

[tiny pelican]

the greater angels are all created as they are per terminal data, there's no actual correlation between what an angel is or does and their future angel status

[mint fulcrum]

I have actually thought about how Virtues are prior humans but angels 'don't have gender'. Do you get de-gendered when entering heaven?

Or do the Greater Angels watch Virtues use "She/Her" and such and roll their eyes and the misguided ways of man?

[tiny pelican]

I'm pretty sure souls have no memory of life per the husk stuff

unless they're really strong they don't have any real will or mind left

[lone sequoia]

I think it’s a similar situation to Husks, where they attain a status so distanced from Human or Personhood statuses that they’re just not-gendered by default

I can’t remember the level of sentience Husks range across

[tiny pelican]

theyre clearly sapient at the ferryman end but its unclear if they retain any actual prior will

cuz rhe ferrymen exist to do a job

[mint fulcrum]

Minos and Sisyphus def seem to have held onto their gender, but they were big deals

most husks might just forget

[mint fulcrum]

Filth: Even among Husks, they have the lowest intelligence, driven purely by hunger.
seems pretty low

[tiny pelican]

im pretty sure agony tundra etc. also have been stated to be not lore relevant either

[lone sequoia]

I think Husks are sapient and aware of their past lives by default, but they can somehow lose that through… some process. I think.

Either that or some of them are made unlucky

[tiny pelican]

so its unclear if them having names is actually real in-universe

but id lean towards probably not

[true badger]

V2 is a tree got it

[tiny pelican]

er not agony tundra. whatever the insurrectionist ones are

happy and sad or something

[velvet prawn]

VTREE

[mint fulcrum]

we're all trees, if the heart is the fruit of THE LORD.....

[lone sequoia]

I think Ferrymen aren’t specifically made to be Ferrymen, but rather they had enough intelligence to try and choose a path to redemption and “Ferrymen” is the only role that allows them to do that.

Iirc Ferrymen lore states that their powers and skills are learned, not inherent.

[tiny pelican]

angry and rude, yeah. the dmc goons

[lone sequoia]

A big element of Ultrakill tbh is how Ascension and Redemption for sinners is deemed impossible because of Heaven’s own biases rather than the Worthiness of any given soul, which I think is interesting. I mean Ferrymen knew how to bring Holy Light to Demons, that’s gotta count for something.

[mint fulcrum]

also why I like the angle went with making them treat gender as a status thing. Reminds me of KSBD's own transgender-angel stuff.

the Angel masculinity is a sign of that bias

[lone sequoia]

Exactly, hence why I think Gender is such an interesting thematic element of Ultrakill

The Machines having Feminine qualities (even if they lack gender), being despised by heaven and seen as objects lesser than even man, yet adored and cherished by Hell as they wipe both clean… idk, it almost makes Ultrakill feel like a justified revenge story against Heaven

[mint fulcrum]

Heaven def sucks

Though I think the buck goes all the way up

in Ultrakill, God made. And God made mistakes.

Humans, Hell, Angels, anything at all? Take your pick.

Hard for me to take it ever as a justified revenge with that lens,

it's like a death-cry, a revenge at 'being forced to be alive at all'. But even then, Hell's having fun(?)

I think it would thank God for the suffering and the suicides and the pain. Which might be worse lmao.

The world killing itself because it was flawed from the start

This was the only way it could've ended. This is the only way it should've ended: Beauty in the bodies going limp.

bit fucked all around

[thick pecan]

this is why gabriel will transition

[velvet prawn]

The Council: You have 24 hours left to live, Gabriel
Galbriel: Watch this

[swift niche]

I mean… that’s effectively what he did, he showed them alright.

[shy musk]

She*

Gabriel did in fact show them too, though

[swift niche]

Sure.

[wispy lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/770875660251562014/1489626859087069414/image.png?ex=69d11a9f&is=69cfc91f&hm=dd2c09e376900b79ac7fbbe56a33125b6cd8a13ab3b3a6dd5dd7a77915248edc&

I think I want to end myself

Fucking bruh, man

[shy musk]

https://youtu.be/evC_qkehfS8?si=VA0pmRziFWYgARTA

It's so wild how much tech this game has

Tl;dr: oil up your targets before letting loose the barrage to deal up to 29 damage (more than double the amount of a normal barrage)

Finally a reason to empty the fuel tank often

Been struggling coming up with ways to incorporate the red launcher in my rotations

[true badger]

Lmaooo

[lone sequoia]

||what do you MEAN it doesn’t work on Mirror Reaper or Powers!?||

||Providence and Deathcatchers I don’t care about doing this with they’re both made of paper||

[lone sequoia]

God Fraud has done bad things to my GM brain because now the temptation of just saying ||”so you enter Disintegration Loop-“|| or ||”and then the mirror reaper shows up”|| is so strong

[wispy lintel]

Red launcher is there as a passive damage more or less tbh. It kinda sucks for anything else though.

[wispy lintel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FF2LFlEDvaM

[wheat bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bRPbM1CSjM

[iron stream]

i might be goated

[tiny pelican]

grats!!

[shy musk]

Does Minos have any common enemies inspired after him like Sisyphus and Gabriel?

I was thinking of the Soldier but that somehow feels like a Sisyphus thing

[kindred hamlet]

big brain: Mind Flayer

[shy musk]

Minibos: check
Layer-appropriate: check
Everywhere: check

I wonder if the Mindflayers were cascading with us to hell or if they were already there

Like I know this lore tidbit refers to the terminals explicitly but I'm wondering if the "terminals teleport scientist's favorite music disc" entry also has Mind Flayer tie ins

[uneven briar]

It is ticking

you know what that means!

[shy musk]

I don't-

[spark cradle]

finally got through 8-2

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

[wheat bay]

that's how 8-3 made me feel too

[spark cradle]

GENUINELY

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAKITA THINKING

[shy musk]

Y e a h

Disintegration Loop is truly

Quite wack

[spark cradle]

FUCK

FUCK

FUCK

LITERALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING

I JUMPED AROUND AND FFELL INTO A SECRET ORB

IM NOT EVEN PAST EHF IRST ROOM

[shy musk]

Dw about it™

[spark cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[shy musk]

Somehow There's More™

Genuinely like

I cannot recall 8-3 and 8-4

Aside from like one or two highlights

They've blended together

[spark cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

im so fucking lost and it's one room

i thought 8-2 was freaky..

that whipped me right back around into studying instead of procrastinating

wow holy shit that was a lot

[mint fulcrum]

like some king of Disintegration Loop...

'Final Flight' is a good name too but I like calling it 'Falling Action' in my head

[lone sequoia]

Unshackled Sisyphus Class NHP makes a Metavault
Enters
FRAUD /// THIRD: DISINTEGRATION LOOP

[kindred hamlet]

cascading Sisyphus breaking your Peggy open going "this Prison...to Hold ME?"

[lone sequoia]

I wonder when trickshot videos are gonna be made for Fraud of players REALLY utilizing the portal mechanics to do stylish arena completions + movement tech

Like even in the first actual arena of fraud you could absolutely do something cool with Jackhammer momentum tossing you through portal doors to clear the room, or approaching an enemy with a portal from across the room

[spark cradle]

i reached

power

[shy musk]

How was she doing?

[shy musk]

:)

Tell us how it goes later

[spark cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crazy-no-stare-insane-gif-15932475392841589612

IM SO FUCKING LOST

[shy musk]

https://youtu.be/4aRlZ6e-_zU?si=XB--3yuR8A8BS-y2

I should probably learn how deadcoining works, huh

[mint fulcrum]

thought they removed it Fraud's patch?

[tiny pelican]

it was bugged for like 2 days or smth, all physics projectiles fired from weapons were (aka chainsaw and coins iirc)

but no its alive and its not changing since its a weird fucked up mechanics interaction rather than a bug

[honest cairn]

NOOOO CBT MEANS CANNONBALL TECH

also I love how the chainsaw launch tech is called the pochita tech

[thick pecan]

P rank get ...

[shy musk]

Congrats!

[honest cairn]

wahoo!

[graceful flax]

https://newbloodstore.com/collections/new/products/ultrakill-oversized-poster-print

[lone sequoia]

So Lucifer being de-deconfirmed huh?

[kindred hamlet]

huh how so

[lone sequoia]

Turns out the original Hakita quote screenshot was from a fake server cause Hakita doesn’t have tags + searching through messages on that discord that mention Lucifer, Hakita said nothing resembling the original comment

[pine surge]

i basically don't trust any hakita screenshots at this point lol

[lone sequoia]

Good call

[thick pecan]

ooh <vv<

[mint fulcrum]

fake screenshot
popularized during Fraud drop
cinema....

||Hell Itself made that fake||

[tiny pelican]

I think CBT is dead re the new patch

Sawed-On Shotgun no longer resets the melee chainsaw's durability when swapping to another weapon in the middle of sawing

Increased the sawblade/launched chainsaw's cooldowns between colliding with the same enemy multiple times

Hitting the environment will now instantly reset a sawblade/launched chainsaw's same enemy hit cooldown

The double damage boost from punching a sawblade/launched chainsaw now only resets upon hitting a second enemy (hitting the same enemy multiple times retains the bonus), instead of resetting when hitting the environment or entering a magnet's area of influence

generic buffs to make it better but also it can't repeatedly tap the same guy every frame

Fixed an OOB spot before the Supermarket Shutters arena in 8-2 if the player is upside down
thank the fucking lord that spot was annoying

[shy musk]

https://youtu.be/9bRPbM1CSjM?si=ieTDmO5jJAVR4coE

8-1 spoilers ||in true Fraud fashion||

[wheat bay]

https://youtu.be/D2SRxg-Uhno?si=dT7B2vMo1GT95mar

New movement tech droped a few weeks ago

[uneven briar]

I want to lick it like a popsicle

[uneven briar]

Uh...?

[shy musk]

I'M IN THE FUCKING BUILDING AGAIN

[thick pecan]

-# DOMAIN EXPANSION
-# FRAUD, THIRD, DISINTEGRATION LOOP

[velvet prawn]

Congratulations, it's a

FRAUD, THIRD, DISINTEGRATION LOOP

-# Sickass musical cue

[ancient shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-disintegration-loop-fraud-third-black-screen-gif-13844051147848432085

[uneven briar]

Goodness fucken gracious

well, still better than 0-E

[lone sequoia]

This is really good https://youtu.be/bMZvt7DJwbM

[ebon pagoda]

I saw that earlier

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-ultrakill-gif-v1-v2-gif-877973826586985475

This was also posted today https://youtu.be/v9KZ8ykX18w

[wheat bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Njix15b7I

very interesting theory vid that i think makes some good points

it might be the first time someone decoded the code poem on the menu

[uneven briar]

There's a code poem on the menu?!

Fucking hell

[graceful flax]

I think everyone here is probably gonna love this project and if you do you should give the dev team some wishlists and love

[bleak phoenix]

Gem alert

[kindred hamlet]

wolfgirl ultrakillike

[wheat bay]

What it seems to mean, at least according to the vid i posted, is that v1 is constantly performing alchemy to turn blood into fuel

[mint fulcrum]

I wonder how far into the video "Three Primes = Three Primes" is gonna show up

Minos prime with the salt head

[mint fulcrum]

this is kinda what humans do though too honestly

[lone sequoia]

Gianni Matragrano is a gift to this earth https://youtu.be/S5cnNfVlG9E

[kindred hamlet]

Altars of Apostasy still tears me up

[shy musk]

https://youtu.be/gdpLBN1C5dw?si=TCF4V4L2NRapJ5C5

Very graceful shill of the Attractor