ARPGs

[fervent raptor]

Tech with the Lycia bloodline? Is this silly herald stuff?

[solar vigil]

yeah i think

[fervent raptor]

It's not like it comes with no cost, and if anything gets nerfed it'll be the bloodline lol

Wander is still great without it

And frankly I find it hard to trust people on squishyness when they spec for turbo softcore

And / or consider nothing short of immortality to be "not squishy"

Like a PB/SB Assassin has essentially 40% PDR and overleech, easy access to suppression (which is still good), good evasion with extra avoidance from elusive

[solar vigil]

PB/SB?

[fervent raptor]

Petrified Blood Shadowed Blood

[solar vigil]

ah ok

[fervent raptor]

SB gives enough Phys recoup to more than offset the life loss that PB would inflict on you

Generally I think recoup is an underutilised mechanic

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/x00nIXnU-_U?si=Iw0xqeJOYqThuyqQ

[cosmic owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZme-_YKWEg

[fervent raptor]

Boooooooo

Tbf KR looks outrageous so I'm not surprised

HUH

Ziggy printing 5 links in act 4 with the mechanic

[solar vigil]

How much more expensive is mana gear on average?

I’m looking at wander heiro potentially

[fervent raptor]

The market gonna be weird either way you cut it tbh

Async trade plus interesting crafting mechanic

[solar vigil]

Well I mean

It’s an extra stat that you have to have on your gear

Is a mana stacking build typically more expensive than a non mana staking build

[fervent raptor]

entirely depends on the builds - its not so much an extra stat as replacing a given prefix on your gear with another

if your skill is giving you additional flat from scaling mana then you don't need to worry about getting flat damage prefixes, which other builds will want as standard

it also depends on how far you want to take it - stacking builds will typically have a much higher cost ceiling as they can gear for greater heights, but do you need to go that far?

[solar vigil]

That’s fair

[fervent raptor]

You can also get better than T1 mana with an essence on your armour pieces, and its a high weight mod to pick up otherwise

so with recomb crafting you could get some great pieces for relatively cheap

not to mention the apparent level of focusing you can do with the league mechanic crafting

like check out this vid for recomb crafting: https://youtu.be/dSVjDzJYDS4

you can relatively easily make triple T1 prefix items

[solar vigil]

Ok

[fervent raptor]

T1 mana is also ilvl 81 so bases are so much easier to find

literally just edit your loot filter to highlight the relevant bases for you and you'll be tripping over them in red maps

[fervent raptor]

They buffed other wand skills instead of tuning down KR

[keen dagger]

midleague buffs?

[grizzled hamlet]

pre league buffs

[solar vigil]

holy shiiiiit

[cosmic owl]

Time to build a wander I guess

[solar vigil]

they didnt touch the lycia abilities too

[fervent raptor]

They did make KR a lvl 28 skill instead of lvl 10, but still

Wanna see the trans version

[solar vigil]

that kinetic blast of clustering looks 👀 for heiro but im gonna be stuck in lab hell ig

[solar vigil]

but, im leaning towards some flavor of assassin or self cast heiro

[grizzled hamlet]

this looks neat

auto targeted too

maybe viable with mines

[solar vigil]

based leaguestart index

RIGHTEOUS FIRE

and the other stuff

[cosmic owl]

Has anyone got a good leaguestart wander guide?

I haven't played the build before so hierophant vs elementalist etc are decisions I don't have the grounding for

[pine wedge]

Havoc just posted an Ele Hit of the Spectrum starter

[cosmic owl]

oooh I'll go check it out

[grizzled hamlet]

Allie also posted her league start
https://youtu.be/wov_0Jg-X6c?si=9-_Qr-bE6-T9xyy0

Her pconc of bouncing guide was amazing for me last league
The notes are extremely thorough

[cosmic owl]

I remember hearing something off about allie, but legit am unsure if that was just sexism speaking

[solar vigil]

I’ve heard some people (those people being redditors so who gives a fuck) saying she makes bait builds?

[solar vigil]

Yeah it’s probably just sexism

[cosmic owl]

Its almost certainly sexism

[grizzled hamlet]

Idk
I followed her pconc guide and it just guided me in gearing and progression extremely well

So I'm recommending based on that

[cosmic owl]

But if jenny gives her thumbs up, I've no issues

[grizzled hamlet]

She does update videos too in case stuff goes wrong and there's big changes and such

[solar vigil]

Yeah I looked at it and it was VERY detailed

Granted, I’m probably not going for this one since she says in the video “swap to kinetic blast of clustering at 20-30 div” and I don’t get that far

And its power siphon of archmage totems till then

And I don’t want to do totems again

But that’s just me really

[cosmic owl]

If her heist claims live up to the hype its probably quick

[cosmic owl]

Got a link?

Can't seem to find it

[pine wedge]

https://youtu.be/eYlBvzZgA4E

He also has a kinetic blast PoB

They're in the description

[cosmic owl]

chur

[pine wedge]

and fwiw Deadeye is a very common Wander ascendancy choice

So you'll have a good chance to be able to swap to another wand build later in the league

[grizzled hamlet]

it is a mana stacking wander yeah
20-30 div is like the low end

[solar vigil]

ah

is that like

league startable?

[grizzled hamlet]

she league starts it as power siphon totems

to farm currency and transition into the actual build

and that should be very doable

im not gonna follow this one myself
i got my eye on the balor holy relic build

with the spectre qol that is one of my big minion build nitpicks out of the way

and with the acc changes on minions its now easier to hit breakpoints too

cause minion acc mastery got replaced with cooldown recovery

[cosmic owl]

I did minions last league (SRS) so I can't do it this league

Otherwise I would also be all-in on spectre qol

[cosmic owl]

Also starting deadeye is plain fast

Which is nice

[solar vigil]

its mainly id rather self cast

I can’t really play on day 1 anyways so I’ll just wait and see how things pan out

[solar vigil]

If I don’t need a transfigured gem till endgame, is it better to farm eternal lab for it or should I still be doing merc lab

[solar vigil]

I wonder how much I’d have to change to adapt power siphon of the archmage heiro for self cast

Since I’m under the impression it’s better with less investment but KBoC has a higher potential

[cosmic owl]

My mate just crafted something unethical

[fervent raptor]

Fwiw Elementalist uses golems to shore up basic stats and then heralds to get flat (which is p important on wander)

So it should be a little smoother to start

K Rain doesn't look like it's going to care for a lot of the DE/right side stuff, ie +proj, pierce, chain, which is why I think the top is in more contention

Plus the bonus of being able to click spell damage nodes and getting a lot more inc from them

[solar vigil]

Maybe it’s buffed enough to skip the intermediary step?

[sturdy herald]

you are rare find 😄

[grizzled hamlet]

ah yes, the "fuck you die" ring

https://youtu.be/kuijxkM8Ovk from here

[fervent raptor]

Incredible

Mists on heist bases are fuckin' weird, bro

[cosmic owl]

I love it

[fervent raptor]

Last bloodline found in the tree data:

RF and Boneshatter stonks

[fervent raptor]

Lycia and Olroth nodes are going live

[frigid kernel]

Cold snap of power blizzard crown stonks

[solar vigil]

people are saying this is strong, esp otherworldy appendages

and like

yeah

you should get somehting good for completeing the league content

[frigid kernel]

15% less cold damage taken is really nice for shaper

[fervent raptor]

I'm sort of in two minds about it?

Like GGG have really pushed the idea that you don't need to engage with league content that you don't like/want to do, but now build requirements might be locked behind doing reasonably high level stuff

And if you want to just trade-league past the restriction, a couple of them are going to require going through a third party carry service on top of being a chunk of currency (Aul, for example)

[solar vigil]

thats fair

[grizzled hamlet]

accountant mtx lets goooooooooo

https://youtu.be/mr6Gb6XR76w

[grizzled hamlet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZsWpTBQIkVlC84rW6xs-tmH-MufLQcmkZ2G9PHpHGL8/htmlview?gid=0&pru=AAABmlcfREU*Sp86-Og3Lflvqg4DilVOpQ#gid=0

https://youtu.be/kg46Mp6-6pI unembedded the thumbnail cause it has a pepe

@cosmic owl theres some wander builds linked here

[solar vigil]

ooooh pbrand inquis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc3zwCXn_Iw

doesnt pbrand take a lot of investment tho?

[grizzled hamlet]

what does the build say lol

[solar vigil]

i think yes

i think palestron is making a KBoC heiro and maybe a kinetic rain heiro too?

i shall wait and see

[grizzled hamlet]

ill be honest, if youre looking for budget
wanders aint it

wanders are expensive as is usually
and this league a ton of people are gonna go wander on top of that

[solar vigil]

ah, i see

[grizzled hamlet]

key mash on that last one

[solar vigil]

well, thing is with the "fubgun tax" there's a lot of second hand rares at least

[grizzled hamlet]

true, and theres async trade this league, so it will be easier to buy stuff

[solar vigil]

i cant play day 1 anyways so

so at least ill be able to see how builds pan out and decide from there

assassin looks cool but my main concern is that it might be squishy

im not looking to push content super hard anyways

at least 2 voidstones but idk how far after that

maybe do the non-story versions of the 3 new bosses that got added in 3.26

mayb do whatever you need to do to unlock the breach bloodline

[cosmic owl]

You can wand off a unique, or energy blade i think

Makes it a lot cheaper, but locks you off e.g. mana stacking for mega scaling

[prime spruce]

The eclipse solaris tech for wands seems interesting too as a potentially cheaper start, assuming it doesn't get stealth changed before release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGYVM7_2CbI

[fervent raptor]

Isn't that mostly because wanders have typically been int stackers?

I do think there's a reasonable amount of new stuff that allows them to exist in a more normal form

Crafting an attack wand on the new bases is going to be essentially the same as any other weapon; there's incidental stuff to give good sources of flat; wall skill potentially allows for good bossing on KB (which was always its weakness and a reason you wanted giga damage); Barrage significantly buffed as an alt single target skill

[frigid kernel]

The gem on its own is really strong

[prime spruce]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3870620

RIP kinetic rain already? from 143% added effectiveness to 25%

[solar vigil]

yeah f

the trans version still seems good tho

a few leagues ago, i did ziz's EA ballista champ build, and it was a great time, but i had a bit of trouble killing the squids in uber elder and the add phases in maven, do yall think KR of impact totems would fare any better in that regard? im thinking heiro

mainly getting the totems to target what i need them to in those situations

i would LOVE to self cast it, but i think all the builds are going the way of totems so

[fervent raptor]

Oh wow that got gut punched

Guess we'll have to see how good the ol' explosions are instead

Trans KR attacks nice and quickly, at least

[fervent raptor]

Fusillade could be very good for single target, too

The duration cluster on the tree and a 21/20 less duration support gives a hover time of 0.189s - should be super easy to blast things in quick spurts

[fervent raptor]

Sat down for a crossword this morning and I think it's trying to tell me something

[frigid kernel]

QUUEU

[fervent raptor]

I haven't even patched yet 💀

Home in 10 🥹

[grizzled hamlet]

Im out for dinner
And then i have movie in the morning, might honestly just start tomorrow

[fervent raptor]

yeah fairrrr

I'm just working a split tomorrow so I want to get some time in now, especially with new stuff in a group

[rustic grotto]

Oh shit I didn't realise it was out tonight

I've still not picked a build aaaaaa

[frigid kernel]

mathil1 cosplay

[keen dagger]

very nice

[fervent raptor]

there's no league mechanic in private leagues atm lol

we're playing standard

[rustic grotto]

Ok, picked a build
Level with fire then reap/exsang in maps

[fervent raptor]

Okay KRain is actually still great

[fervent raptor]

holy the league mechanic is nuts

[solar vigil]

yeah lol

[fervent raptor]

So I farmed a KRain of Impact and like

KR normal is pretty fine with just the anomaly damage, and Impact is pretty fine with the hit damage

And GGG wanted to ship that skill with both??

[solar vigil]

Does KBoC have any special interactions with wall of force? Perhaps replacing the spellslinger+tornado setup that the build uses

[solar vigil]

ugh

for some reason i reallyyyy dont want to do totems on heiro

mostly cos i already did EA ballista totems a few leagues back

i think my top candidate is KBoC but palestron writes his pobs with like no direction

like i know how to level but i need a bit more than just the raw pob

[grizzled hamlet]

Finally got my exilecon shirt framed

[fervent raptor]

Pog

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKbtIm8Tyis

day 1 is looking great for allies build

[solar vigil]

Btw plasteron is in yellow maps and is using kboc

Using kinetic rain of impact on totems on a 4 link and wall of force

[fervent raptor]

Yeah numbers on fusillade seem really nice

Volley +1 proj on tree is 3 attacks to cap - can do greater volley but I don't think it's actually worth tbh

Unless you're hitting the reduced duration intervals etc perfectly

I feel like going regular KR on totems because bosses will still be walking through anomalies so higher DPS potential?

[solar vigil]

Mayb

[prime spruce]

Been running VD spellslinger elementalist, not yet reached maps but the leveling has been super smooth

also just printing 5 links in the campaign is very silly

[fervent raptor]

Yeah my guild printed a chunk of 6 links before the campaign was over, and then like a normal week 1 6L axe in like, hour 6

[fervent raptor]

eyy one of my guildies as heisted a replica alberons already

day 2 reroll

[frigid kernel]

its not gonna be that bad. you gotta remember that EA ballista damage is triple delayed

[solar vigil]

yeah

[frigid kernel]

the totem has to shoot, the fuse has to pop, the ignite has to kill

[solar vigil]

im committed to kboc

its cookin

and is viable in like yellow maps

[frigid kernel]

im on pohx rf rn

[keen dagger]

so is this like breach 3.0?

[frigid kernel]

its great although i'm feeling a bit of ssf pain now that i'm in early red maps

the lack of prolif because I can't just buy flames :(

might just go farm clusters in yellow maps

[prime spruce]

Basically yeah, it's just breach but more. New crafting, a new gear type, new bosses, new breach types, etc.

[frigid kernel]

blightheat scarab my belovefd

it's very swingy

sometimes you get a weapon chest with nothing shown by your filter

sometimes you get 18 blight maps

[grizzled hamlet]

lol

[frigid kernel]

i have a LOT of heist quest contract

[cosmic owl]

Swapped to wander today after reaching 80ish on bow

Holy damn its good

[cosmic owl]

whoops

I should have done that switch after exarch/eater

My single tartget is pants

[rustic grotto]

Hit act 7 and switched to exsang/reap early and it fucks tbh

[grizzled hamlet]

huh

is this the poe 2 monk

yeah thats 100% him

nice detail

[solar vigil]

Is the Poe 2 monk like…

35 then?

Possibly more?

[keen dagger]

it's an Easter egg not lore

[cosmic owl]

I'm fond of the tree

[cosmic owl]

I'm very fond of the tree

Pity about the mana for my build

But ah well

[keen dagger]

holy shit

what is this fucking league mechanic

[cosmic owl]

printer go brrrr

Basically you have a crafting tree

That you feed blood

And it births items

[keen dagger]

do you craft the items or do they just have very good chances to have high tiers of good affixes

[cosmic owl]

you can respec it to do various things: mine has +chance for rings, +chance for resistance modifiers -chance for attack modifiers, etc etc

[cosmic owl]

You just weight it and go

[keen dagger]

ah I see

[rustic grotto]

I keep running out of treeblood

[grizzled hamlet]

you could buy some graftblood gained grafts

goes up to 25% per graft

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3873809

[rustic grotto]

Well, I'm also still just getting started in maps so it's not a huge deal right now

[cosmic owl]

I lagged and died beastcrafting 6L

So had to do it the old fashioned way

[fervent raptor]

Damn ko how about a nsfw warning next time

[cosmic owl]

Am trying to craft a t1/t1 flat cold/lightning wand

And am alt spamming white wands to get the two for recomb

I've got t1 fire twice and t1 chaos once

No cold nor light

fire thrice

another t1 chaos

[fervent raptor]

Haha, that was me going for the int stack stuff last league

I saw +1 to all types of gems and +1 all gems a good few times each before hitting the shaper mod

Holy based

This league mechanic is unethical

[cosmic owl]

Its legit broken my ability to judge item prices

[keen dagger]

I can do 5c

[fervent raptor]

Ah we're in a private league so trade prices mean nothing haha

[knotty glacier]

What is the league mechanic?

[frigid kernel]

alright so imagine necropolis EXCEPT every map gives you 50 of the exact corpses you need

[fervent raptor]

There's a "give me a random item" mechanic except it has a tree to influence what you get, and you can respect the tree at will and it gives powerful weightings to the option you want (or don't)

So you can get more chance of specific item types; more or less chance of attribute requirements and modifier types (attack, caster, defense, attrib etc); small passives give a bonus to modifier tiers; chance to fracture a mod; remove the lowest tier mod (for crafting further)

So for the ES chest above you can have like, more chance of int reqs, defense mods, less chance for mana mods, remove lowest mod (will probably hit life) and bonuses to modifier tier

The other main part of the crafting is uniques, with some of the above weighting and then the ability to be 'foulborn' which replaces a mod with another (the mods are curated so as not to make absolutely batshit items)

[knotty glacier]

Oh very nice

[cosmic owl]

@fervent raptor

[fervent raptor]

So it has good mods

But also

[cosmic owl]

So lets ignore the utterly useless armour roll

[fervent raptor]

It also feels a little middling for an amulet

[cosmic owl]

Normally you'd be right

But this is the attack wand league

[fervent raptor]

Trueeee

There's a replica hyrris in my guild stash and I'm very tempted

[cosmic owl]

The only comparable amulet on the tradesite is 17div

hmmm its slightly awkward though

1 in 5 annul the armour, mastercraft -mana cost, I guess

[fervent raptor]

Honestly with the fractured crit mult I'd be tempted to scour and then alt until +gems and craft from there

Deffo if the annul misses

[cosmic owl]

yea, thats the plan I think

[cosmic owl]

annul hit crit, so spam it is

[fervent raptor]

good luck

[cosmic owl]

oh hm

t1 lightning to attacks

This.... might be better than +gems for an attack build

[fervent raptor]

Oh probably

I was thinking for selling purposes

Worth a regal at least

[cosmic owl]

oh thats reasonable

[cosmic owl]

Theres always yolo recomb it with my fractured t1 life ammy

[fervent raptor]

Honestly I hinj YOLO RECOMB is the name of the league rn

Also I didn't all caps that bit it's funny af

[cosmic owl]

shoutout tree

[frigid kernel]

the tree feels pretty bad to use rn

maybe once i have really good jewels and rares

the opportunity cost of spending my graftblood in ssf on a bunch of random currency most of which I don't even need that badly feels bad

[fervent raptor]

Hmm, my gsf have been finding it very useful basically all the way through campaign and into endgame

[fervent raptor]

Based based based my gsf has dropped a Starcaller

Let the poison memes begin

[fervent raptor]

lmao

[fervent raptor]

damnnnn

[cosmic owl]

I feel like it got changed?

It felt a lot more reliable earlier in the week

[cosmic owl]

At some point the limiting factor becomes the provisioning wombgrafts

So spending excess blood on currency or unique gamba is fine

[fervent raptor]

If you take the shards node for currency you should reliably get rare shards

[sick grove]

SAVE ME POE2 0.4 SAVE ME!!!

[fervent raptor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/Ueh9YO4B30

To save you a click

[rustic grotto]

[fervent raptor]

My private league had a bricked Squire pop from the tree, too

[fervent raptor]

My private league???

[keen dagger]

the woker

[frigid kernel]

blightheart?!

[pine wedge]

LMAO

[keen dagger]

is that a corruption?

[fervent raptor]

Its a foulborn outcome with the league mechanic

[keen dagger]

that's very funny

[grizzled hamlet]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

https://youtu.be/jVZ3OIJdsFM

the cloister farm is going mainstream

😭

my cozy lazy farm

[frigid kernel]

The ritual divcard one?

[fervent raptor]

Lmaooo our brand new player (recruited to Poe by a friend) dropped a headhunter from the tree and just plonked it in the guild stash without mentioning it because he didn't know that it was valuable

[keen dagger]

that's very funny. and also good that he was in a small enough guild that someone cared to let him know hahaha

[fervent raptor]

It's a private league so it's not like it can go too far - we have a spreadsheet that tracks stuff going in and out of the stash so easy enough to find out

[keen dagger]

ah okay

"not only is this worth a shitload but it's also just really good unless your build needs a specific belt"

[keen dagger]

lmao

lmao

[pine wedge]

I remember my first league I dropped a Mageblood

hooked ever since

[frigid kernel]

i think i dropped a squire and vendored it because I was a noob in ssf my first league

[strong sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe2CFfLaL38

[rustic grotto]

Is it me or is ground loot a bit meh this league?

[grizzled hamlet]

If you're using neversink it's probably hiding more stuff than before since a lot of stuff is worth less with async trade available

[pine wedge]

also, remember that last league mercs where juicing the maps

you are dropping less stuff than last league

[keen dagger]

there's less stuff on the ground and more stuff in the canopy

[rustic grotto]

Unrelated to loot, this is the first league I've taken CI

It's spooky

[cosmic owl]

Dammit allie, thats why my div scarabs went up 2c in price

[grizzled hamlet]

loooool

[cosmic owl]

yea, its a little bit worse to pick up popcorn

But on the other hand the tree is insane

This was a gooooood morning

[cosmic owl]

Map prices have gone off a cliff

Which is probably the most interesting part of it

[frigid kernel]

trading maps before was incredibly annoying

or so I heard

after doing my first trade I immediately felt clmpletely alienated from my character

[cosmic owl]

Previously you'd get a full tab then bulk sell on t4t

Slightly annoying but not the worst

[rustic grotto]

Complain a lil and get my first raw div drop from a smugglers cache

[sick grove]

help me summon 0.4 announcement with your MINDS

[solar vigil]

People are saying early December?

Isn’t that a bit less than 2 months?

[fervent raptor]

The last word from GGG was 10 days ago to say "early December, details soon"

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3876666/page/1#p26440510

[keen dagger]

that's 2 weeks

[solar vigil]

Oh shit

[fervent raptor]

Early could still be like, the 10th

[solar vigil]

Oh yeah don’t they like to take holiday

[fervent raptor]

But yeah likely within 3 weeks

[keen dagger]

my guess is we start getting deets next week and the expansion drops on the 11th

[fervent raptor]

Honestly there might be an announcement tonight or tomorrow

Thurs/Fri is pretty normal GGG times

[keen dagger]

hope we get the druid

I don't even care about shape-shifting that much I just love str/int

won't be surprised if the druid is a banger design though

[fervent raptor]

I want str/int stuff because it's very unrepresented atm

Mostly I want the Templar because flail, though

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4c0znfzdBQ

[keen dagger]

ohp

okay sweet

so yes druid yes Dec 12

and free weekend 12-15

sweet

[fervent raptor]

Called it!

[knotty glacier]

Very interested to see how this lands after how Huntress went

Dunno if i'll be playing it or back on the Merc bullshit, lol

[keen dagger]

thunder claws will be the best skill in the game :^)

[knotty glacier]

I have no idea what that is, lol

[keen dagger]

it's just a joke about lightning spear being cracked in half in huntress league

and generally lightning skills being the best in the game because of how they work mechanically

[knotty glacier]

Ah, right.

[knotty glacier]

I, fool that i was, got excited about Bleedazon.

Chat, it wasn't good

[solar vigil]

I’m pretty sure druids skill type is primal?

The type of magic we’re missing

So no new weapon type

Claws may just be rolled into daggers and come with shadow

I am wrong, spoilers for new weapon type ||Apparently we are getting “talismans” as a two handed weapon type that lets us transform||

||From poe2db:||

||So if I had to hazard a guess, primal is split between some magic and shapeshifted skills||

if there’s a rabbit shapeshift…

[solar vigil]

||three shapeshifts on poe2db, id guess we're getting more?||

[keen dagger]

it is primal yes.

[frigid kernel]

This is so good. I'm so glad that the thing of same name in poe1 will not be that in poe2

[keen dagger]

talismans are literally the items used for shape-shifting in dungeon crawl stone soup haha

[fervent raptor]

FOR THE MEME MUSEUM

36(-25--28)% reduced Rarity of Items found

{ Suffix Modifier "of Excavation" (Tier: 1) — Drop }
36(21-26)% increased Rarity of Items found

[keen dagger]

nice la

[solar vigil]

Dungeon crawl stone soup?

[keen dagger]

https://crawl.develz.org/

[frigid kernel]

DCSS is a popular rougelike

[solar vigil]

spoilers for 0.4 ||3 shapeshift forms confirmed is cool, id expect 1 or 2 more probs? although just 3 would be totally understandable, they gotta make WHOLE new animation sets for each one||

[sick grove]

||my guess is its just the 3||

[grizzled hamlet]

||They'll probably add more eventually
But 3 is honestly a good start||

[frigid kernel]

The game is incomplete

Eventually there will be more:)

[desert inlet]

https://youtu.be/UMtuRUzxjB0 @grizzled hamlet

[grizzled hamlet]

Neat

[fervent raptor]

Oh wow, the concept art for It That Was Esh/Tul is super cool

[fervent raptor]

average act defences

[hollow geyser]

That's a lotta fire res

[fervent raptor]

we do a little fire res stacking

[pine wedge]

Chieftain?

[fervent raptor]

yeah, with Formless Flame and later Enmity's Embrace

bearing in mind I currently have only 58% fire res across my replaceable gloves, boots, belt and amulet

[cosmic owl]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-s-season-4-and-beyond-expansion-paradox-classes-and-roadmap/80152

Expansion (yay), paid (boo), free for existing players (yay), but the new classes will be paid (boo)

[keen dagger]

moxjet200!

I'll be honest I don't mind paying for an expansion

[sick grove]

their timeline gives a chance for them to be releasing a paid class whilst poe2 would be going ftp which would be really funny

[keen dagger]

looool

poe2 still costs like 50 bucks for the tabs but I paid that for poe1

[sick grove]

i mean u dont need tabs for campaign

and poe campaign is just miles better than LE

i feel like LE's main draw is the loot systems which really dont matter until endgame

[keen dagger]

yeah agreed

the moment to moment gameplay in poe2 is much more satisfying and the campaign is to go even further beyond compared to LE

[solar vigil]

oh shit

all pos ventors

how much do yall think this could be?

[cosmic owl]

Very little

I've had three this season, 2 of which were better rolls

[solar vigil]

oh fair

[cosmic owl]

The tree prints unique rings

So theres just a lot of 'em

[fervent raptor]

If anyone wants to clear a couple more https://craniumviolence.github.io/

(Poe challenge list)

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/as-krafton-evolves-into-an-ai-first-company-the-boss-of-the-recently-acquired-last-epoch-studio-says-he-doesnt-think-the-doom-and-gloom-is-warranted/

heres hoping the last epoch folks are gonna be ok :(

[pine wedge]

I've already given up after the last announcement

This is just sealing the deal

Anyone could have seen this shit was coming besides, apparently, the studio leads

[grizzled hamlet]

what was the last announncement?

[fervent raptor]

The paid dlc classes I assume?

[pine wedge]

Yep

It just felt wrong for what they're doing. They have supporter packs the cosmetic shop

Those are their earners so they could make gameplay updates regular and free.

Yes the cosmetic shop likely isn't doing well, but that's because their cosmetics fucking suck lol not because it's a bad strat

[cosmic owl]

Same

[hollow geyser]

Over in Grim Dawn land it's pretty quiet on gameplay news on the expansion because this month's update was soundtrack preview for the expansion this year - they're going orchestral:
https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-misadventure-197-sounds-of-asterkarn/150139

[fervent raptor]

Fusillade Herald Stack feels so, so good

[solar vigil]

on which class?

[fervent raptor]

elementalist

generally the herald stack ele is doing great stuff, but go with Penance or Fusillade imo

as a disclaimer I'm still leveling it, but this is with garbage gear for example

one of my guildmates is playing PB Heralds and says it's the best build he's played this league

bearing in mind we're on a private league and not trade

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.twitch.tv/pathofexile

55 minutes

[solar vigil]

LOGIN

[sick grove]

LOGIN

[grizzled hamlet]

DRAGON LETS GO

[sick grove]

that wsa fuckin awesome

[grizzled hamlet]

oh so changing to an animal is a weapon swap

interesting

primal beast stomp...

[sick grove]

why does the wolf do zero damage LMFAO

PLANTS VS ZOMBIES

[grizzled hamlet]

lightning once again

[keen dagger]

we all knew it

it's always lightning

[grizzled hamlet]

no rage loss :O

skill tree 2

[sick grove]

AHAHHAAH WHAT THE FUCK

thats insane

[grizzled hamlet]

AVOID DEATH??????

[sick grove]

FIRE DEMON

[grizzled hamlet]

thats one spicy bear

[sick grove]

wait this is so awesome

130 skills for one class is insane

[grizzled hamlet]

vaaaaaaaaaal

is this an atzooatl update?

YEEEEEEEEEEES

temple lets goooooooo

alva had to learn her temple fuckery from someone

oh hell yeah

atziri fight

OOOOOOOOOH

pre corruption atziri

:O

[sick grove]

ATZIRI ASSCHEEKS CONFIRMED

[grizzled hamlet]

she already had 4 tits out
glad the ass enjoyers are getting some action

[sick grove]

LOGIN

[grizzled hamlet]

double corrupts lets go

[hollow geyser]

Does it double brick the item

[grizzled hamlet]

oh hey

foulborn at home

spicier foulborn got it

oh hey

you can trade it

nice

[sick grove]

crafting is gonna be OP again lol

[grizzled hamlet]

corrupt the player

lets go

LOL

[sick grove]

prosthetics?

[grizzled hamlet]

hardcored prosthetics

if you die your arm grows back

im glad you can itemize individual crafts instead of the whole temple like in path 1

uber atziri 2.0 lets go

oh no

oh no

this is gonna be silly

[hidden heron]

!

[grizzled hamlet]

0.5 big end game update, nice

rolly polly bug pet!

patch notes in 2ish hours

[keen dagger]

did they make a nice infographic like they did last time

[knotty glacier]

Wait I thought that was .4?

[grizzled hamlet]

this patch will be .4

so big endgame updates next big patch

[knotty glacier]

Right I thought they were doing that this patch is what I meant

[grizzled hamlet]

nope, only smallish changes this patch

didnt have time for the full big reworks

[sick grove]

it got pushed back 🚬

i do not think people will be happy about that

unless temple is REALLY good

and fun

[grizzled hamlet]

i honestly dont care that much
let them cook

the streamers will whine, play a week of diablo 4 then come back to path cause its still 2 better games

[knotty glacier]

Ah, okay. Well, that's a shame but you know

I'm not short on other games

Do we have a summary of what is changing, what's the big goals?

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/7nH1hHyzUSk?t=2195

timestamped

but tldr

past leagues get a fresh coat of paint
more pinacles
signficant atlas tree rework

[sick grove]

lmfao

johnathan said he was inspired by loop hero

i immediately thought of that after seeing the mechanic

[solar vigil]

reddit (aka you shouldnt give a fuck about them) is complaining about no endgame rework and that the release cycle is somehow bad now

do they want another year long league???

i MUCH prefer the set schedule

but ggg does need to expand tbh

now that druid is out we should be getting things quicker

[keen dagger]

if we shouldn't care about what reddit says why are you telling us what they said? 😛

[solar vigil]

i couldnt IMAGINE how hard it was to make

[solar vigil]

idk

mostly to bring up the point that i much prefer the set release schedule

[rustic grotto]

Might be tempted to move off PoE1 for druid but I'm not sure

[ember nimbus]

Yeah, unless they’re doing something really crazy and radical for the duelist or Templar I doubt any other additional classes or sub classes are going to be as complex as the druid, but hey you never know

[grizzled hamlet]

i could see the benefit of 4 month leagues
with the other games league coming out 2 months into a league instead for 1-1.5 months into a league
but who knows

theyre very much still stabilizing and settling into the dev cycle of juggling two games

theyve changed league lengths before, im sure theyll do it again if they feel the need to

i do put a great deal of trust into GGG
theyve come a long way since the early leagues of "theres a rogue exile every few zones, thats the entire league :)"

[hollow geyser]

Those rogue exiles were murder machines back then and even more deadly popping out of lockboxes!

[grizzled hamlet]

strongboxes were 2 leagues after exiles

[keen dagger]

wasn't this back when standard and hardcore had different leagues?

[grizzled hamlet]

yep

[keen dagger]

what was parallel to anarchy?

[grizzled hamlet]

onslaught

[keen dagger]

oh yeah

and strongboxes were with shrines?

I remember nemesis was paired with bloodlines

[grizzled hamlet]

nemesis was with shrines

[keen dagger]

ah bloodlines was with torment

God I hated torment

[grizzled hamlet]

early ghost ai was truly a thing

it took them so much time to make the ghost ai halfway ok

[keen dagger]

I played hardcore only back then so I was really annoyed when torment got mainlined

fucking me up that this was 12 years ago now

[hollow geyser]

When Act 4 dropped it was a big change to get smote by the touch of god instead of being locked to many Piety runs

[keen dagger]

I have fond memories of Vaal Oversoul, Piety, Dominus, and Malachai all being the final bosses of the game for a very long time.

never played when Merveil was the big bad and they had Maelstrom instead of maps

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883495

[knotty glacier]

The Supporting Fire Skill granted by Unleash Hell! Notable Passive Skill has been updated: Command: Death From Above Cooldown is now 20 seconds (previously 40). Now fires a Volley every 0.75 seconds (previously every 2 seconds). Now fires 6 total Volleys (previously 4). Now has 14 metre width (previously 7.5 metre width). Attack Damage is now 763% (previously 1140%).

Ceremonial Ablution now instead grants Sorcery Ward also protects against Physical and Chaos Damage.

[solar vigil]

i do love the "water your plants" interaction

[cosmic owl]

To be fair, I agree the lack of an end-game rework is an issue

Poe2 end-game is actively bad in comparison to 1

[solar vigil]

yeah

but im not super dissapointed about it getting pushed

[clever widget]

i was around for OG Breach and I thought that trailer was fucking sick

It's incredible how far GGG has come

[cosmic owl]

Its incredible that every other arpg dev has dropped the ball

And GGG just sit there... not

[prime spruce]

Crate has done a good job with Grim Dawn I'd say! But Path of Exile/Grim Dawn are sorta the only two ARPGs i play consistently, none of the others have managed to hit quite the same for me

[grizzled hamlet]

Ye grim dawn is very much thriving and chilling in its own lane

[hollow geyser]

How is the pause button they patched into Path of Exile recently? Because not being able to pause was why I rotated off PoE and if it works good it's worth another hurrah

[pine wedge]

IIRC yep

You can't pause in pinnacle bosses but everywhere else is free game

(there's a debuff that pops up when pause is disabled)

[fervent raptor]

It auto-pauses the game when you have certain menus open (notably the passive tree), but otherwise yeah hitting escape pauses the game in 99% of situations

With explicit boss encounters being the 1%

[hollow geyser]

That might still be a deal breaker because the phone ringing doesn't care if I'm fighting Sirus and it also might not because I can't really say how much of a significant fraction of time the actual pinnacles are these days because I last played when Sirus was new and the bubbles were bugged to kill you on arena entrance if you had to portal out

[grizzled hamlet]

Sirus isn't part of mainline progression, but if pinnacle bossing is a big part of your plan, then yeah you won't be able to pause as much

[hollow geyser]

What is the mainline these days? I'm downloading the client anyways to dust off the old account and last I played was before Atlas trees and when Uber Shaper was shiny. I hear T18 maps are the play?

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Temporal_Interference

[grizzled hamlet]

Exarch,eater, maven are the basic 1-16 progression

Then there's the new zana related enhanced maps and new bosses
Those are like a 16.5 system

There's t17 maps that drop once you have watchstones and you can use those to farm fragments for Ubers

And the equivalent of t18s could be like valdos

[pine wedge]

Valdos aren't real

[grizzled hamlet]

Maps that are omega hard but guarantee a mageblood

[hollow geyser]

That's not too bad, and I don't think managing map influence is a thing any more for atlas completion?

[grizzled hamlet]

Nope no managing influence

You even get up to 3 atlas passive trees

[hollow geyser]

Oh you can swap between them when you feel like it instead of regretting the whole thing?

[grizzled hamlet]

Ye

[hollow geyser]

Good because I sure like me blight league and Betrayal league

[pine wedge]

Betrayal is different btw

You're just bum rushing safe houses because every kill has a chance to drop a token to fight Catarina.

And you don't need to unveil to get the crafting recipes.

And then Catarina drops Veiled Exalts which do the old Aisling slam.

[hollow geyser]

That's like 40 times more convenient

The client is downloaded and I'm in the true endgame already: clearing out remove only tabs from many leagues ago

[pine wedge]

Why standard instead of the current league?

[hollow geyser]

The plan was first to see who had what cosmetics already equipped, reclaim them, clean out the old stashes, then roll a league character, so that when this league ends, that's less cleanup in standard

The other reason being they sure have come out with a lot of specialty tabs since I last played and this is making a shopping list for things like map tab, gem tab, fragment tab

[pine wedge]

Don't forget to convert some of your premium tabs to the new tab type (w/e it's called)

That's how you do the new trade system.

[hollow geyser]

That's a good shout, looks like outside of a couple of chaos recipe tabs and tabs for chisels filled entirely with hammers it wasn't too bad a cleanup, turns out I was sitting on 750% facebreakers from back when which used to be notable but now they go up to 1000% so that's a laugh

[hollow geyser]

Fire Fury firestorm stun claimed first death, some things never change

[rustic grotto]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/jdxW7SyWQU

What the actual fuck is this

[grizzled hamlet]

loooool

peam

[pine wedge]

Ah yes good to see the PoE community is healthy

[keen dagger]

this is perverted

[hollow geyser]

Is there a good breakdown on the league mechanic? The graft item abilities seem okay, I'm a bit confused by the tree because right now it just seems to be printing rare items on bases I don't want

[grizzled hamlet]

theres a few videos explainig how to setup the tree so it crafts kinda what you want

[hollow geyser]

Yeah I'm trying a galvanic arrow kinda situation so jewelry or bows seems kinda useful

[cosmic owl]

Long story short to get the bases you want, you need to both bias towards what you want, and away form what you don't

So probably +dex, -int, -str for items if you're going for a bower

[fervent raptor]

It also gets more useful as you get more points in the tree

For early use id probably suggest going more towards just incidental upgrades or 5/6L than focusing on specific stats

[hollow geyser]

Makes sense, it seems like a solid league to try the SSF thing finally

[fervent raptor]

Yeah it's super nice

Also the fracture node is pretty hot

[granite yoke]

um, so

I was joking around with a friend to the secret to POE being 'just get the drop, it helps to have two rabbits feet' (furry humor, whee)

and my filter flags unique leather belts and heavy belts JUST IN CASE

pick one up, nope, dyadian dawn

map boss drops an ancient orb

'you just have to manifest the head hunter'

ancient the dyadian dawn

long, long pause

'...s-see?'

it's 'only' 14d at this point in the league but also it's the first time I've gamba'd up a t0

so that's adding to the pile of cool milestones for me this league (first deathless Sirus, first clear of maven - yes really - first Feared, first deathless uber elder)

[hollow geyser]

Those are big accomplishments!

[granite yoke]

I'm pretty happy with them - maven has been my white whale for a while, that fight just... I didn't even intend the pun when I almost said 'grinds against my brain gears' uncritically

even if some required playing some busted builds

[fervent raptor]

Yeeee congrats!

[granite yoke]

Check one off the bucket list. Back in my day it was THE chase item, we didn't have no magesins or original bloods

[keen dagger]

the memory game 😔

[cosmic owl]

congrats!

[cosmic owl]

That moment of horror when it was > 200 when I got it

But then a t0 printing strat was found

[granite yoke]

Do the memory game. Now do the memory game with crap all over it unless you were flawless, spinning bars of "screw your build", high damage attacks crisscrossing it, and at double speed, for longer, while patting your head with one hand and flicking the nose of the developer who thought this was an interesting way to make a boss, with the other.

Also you have to burn down maven while this is going on. She becomes invulnerable at random. This is also very cool and quietly and interesting.

Oh and this is just normal, we've got an Uber and an Uber Uber f-

https://tenor.com/view/sus-scout-lachen-tf2-gif-17981608274864336621

...to not just be whiny; I love the new boss added with this league. That's a really neat encounter.

[keen dagger]

I like the maven fight I've just accepted that I'll always die during the second memory game lol

a big part of my fondness is a love the character of the maven

an eldritch diety playing with her touys is so fun

[granite yoke]

I love the added character detail that this near omnipotent, extra-real, reality warping deity is her species version of a kid crashing toy cars together

The lore fragments as much as straight tell you "yeah your fearful manipulative void god is still just a juvenile"

[hollow geyser]

Not being able to see anything going on while needing to very precisely dodge skill shots is a Path of Exile staple

[hollow geyser]

What's a good amount of life for a PoE evasion build these days because these days the life nodes seem a little more spread out than before

[grizzled hamlet]

depends on if youre just relying on evasion?
4k is usually a good baseline for most builds tho

[frigid kernel]

if you are on right side of tree you pretty much just need to accept if you are using red life instead of the superior blue life then you will die sometimes to big physical hits

even as a pathfinder with petrified blood and flask life recovery to 100% life and lightning coil its just owie

[knotty glacier]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1pgx93x/patch_notes_updated/

[granite yoke]

the servers and I are not on speaking terms at the moment

(same as it ever was, same as it ever was)

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qLeoXF4kUw

[solar vigil]

does the extra lightning damage implicit on these actually benefit me if im converting all my phys damage to lightning anyways?

i guess what im asking is that if it applies before or after the convert

[hollow geyser]

"Gain as extra" applies before the convert

I sure missed a lot of leagues since 2019 because this SSF run is constantly exploding into fire and blood and I'm only halfway through act 6 and I don't recognize half the mechanics and new NPCs

[frigid kernel]

Yes. If you have 100% of physical damage converted to lightning damage and 10% of physical damage as extra lightning when you hit for 100 physical damage you are dealing 110 lightning damage with that hit.

[solar vigil]

ok

[granite yoke]

anything you need help with? I know way, way, way too much about this game and may as well be useful with it :P

oh that was last night thanks discord

[hollow geyser]

Right now I'm barreling through Act 7 so I have found Heist and Expedition leagues and am ignoring them a bit until maps since they seem to be many moving pieces with the sub currencies. Delirium league I have no idea what's going on besides stepping on berries releases ghosts. Being ten levels over the content has been pretty smooth outside the parts where I don't realize a rare has the "crystals explode under you" affix in time.

Gold is new since I last left so outside of getting a neat unique quiver on a gamble I'm keeping on to it til maps, so any tips on gold prioritization is good

[pine wedge]

Gold is how instant buy out trading is done

As well as the currency exchange from Faustus.

Also it's used for respeccing

And finally for Kingsmarch

Those first three are the most important uses tho

That said, gold gen in the campaign is pretty low to what you see in maps

So using it to gamble for decent gear mid campaign is a pretty common use

Especially since gambled gear tends to have 4 links more often than not

[hollow geyser]

Yeah I've done all of 3 gambles so far and they all could be saved by the crafting bench which is better results than I see with slamming a alch or binding orb

This toon's SSF so the instant buy outs won't be a big deal I guess but getting a source of chromes from Faustus sounds useful because it's looking like I'll need 3 off colors on dex gear for a proper 6 link down the line

[fervent raptor]

Oh, the currency exchange is a player trade hub

In ssf the use cases will be respeccing, respeccing the atlas and then Kingsmarch stuff (which is the league it came in with)

[hollow geyser]

Ah, that tracks

[fervent raptor]

Kingsmarch can be a lot of busywork, but it's a good avenue for a bunch of ssf stuff

Setting up farmers to just do wheat and corn will let you send out shipments that bring in a bunch of currency, as well as the mechanic-exclusive tattoos and runegrafts

If you find yourself with a surplus of maps, or corrupted maps you can't run, you can feed them to mappers that'll regularly just produce extra drops for you

I honestly wouldn't touch the mining and smithing bits of Kingsmarch unless you're doing specific stuff for their uniques, but that's not a realistic ssf plan imo

[hollow geyser]

Oh that's pretty neat; I think the last league I did was plant juice league and that sounds like more automation and less busy work than plant juicing

[fervent raptor]

Finally you can feed spare uniques to the disenchanting bench to get thaumaturgic dust, which (along with gold) is required for recombination

Which is a busted-ass crafting mechanic

Yeah, they've streamlined things a bunch

Harvest (plant juice) is very useful for cluster crafting and resistance balancing

Also potentially useful if you find a good fracture?

Oh, regarding the two league mechanics you mentioned - Expedition I think has been largely superseded by better crafting mechanics but can be used for currency, although it's a finicky league with one of the most contentious enemy modifiers (they can be immune to the various damage types)

And Heist is its own map-alternative endgame (much like Delve), but has very marmite-y gameplay

Mostly used for currency and heist-specific item bases (although the most desirable of the latter, jewellery, are obscenely rare)

There are also replica uniques which can be build defining, but again that's maybe not great for ssf

[hollow geyser]

Yeah that tracks, and the enemies on the heists on the way out seem tankier than usual but it might also be my middling leveling gear

[fervent raptor]

The focus is more on escape in heist, so speed and defences

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/c1X9lz7JADU

i appreciate empyrian using his stupid amounts of in game currency for silly projects

[fervent raptor]

poorfishwife salivating rn

Oh yeah, Delirium is mostly just a juicing mechanic, but it does drop cluster jewels which basically all builds can probably use

It can also be incredibly dangerous, though

[hollow geyser]

Yeah lots of exploding orbs and tanky mobs, looks like

[granite yoke]

The fog makes things juicier but tankier

Once the fog disperses, a loot splosion happens based on how much you managed to kill

[frigid kernel]

empy was already in contact with prohibited library about this before the first deck opened. by now poorfishwife is enjoying the meal

[hollow geyser]

Is Path of Building desktop app still the preferred PoE companion app or have they got a web planner these days?

[grizzled hamlet]

Pob is still the goat

There are a few web planners but nothing is as good as pob

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/R2SAoj2eWVk?si=7hzJSWTBlwLlvEnI

[keen dagger]

finally we get to see druid doing some damage to mobs /s

the livestream was very funny with the werewolf hitting white mobs 5 times and not killing them in intermissions

[hollow geyser]

How important is Spell Suppression in PoE1? Because it seems neat but it sure takes a lot of passive nodes, hanging out in Duelist/Ranger land so can pick up a bunch

[grizzled hamlet]

it used to be really important, now its just regular good

spell suppress capped is a nice to have but not a requirement

unless you wanna go for real hard content

[hollow geyser]

The concept that's coming together is lightning bow life+evade Deadeye so yeah I probably wanna suppress all the spells

Currently running Herald of Thunder + Wrath + Precision but probably might swap out HoT for Arctic Armor since I don't have a lot of spell damage boosts

[grizzled hamlet]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ancestral_Vision might wanna pick this up if youre investing in suppress a bunch

[hollow geyser]

Oh that's a winner for sure, it's SSF though so it's just kinda a fiesta in Act 10 for gearing at the moment

[frigid kernel]

the inveterate wheel + lucky suppress node will help you mitigate spell damage early

and if you kill regular atziri the boots she drops are a solid early ssf item for helping cap suppress

along with a unique helmet called elevore

[hollow geyser]

I did get one of these things out of the league tree blood unique so I'm thinking I might try to crowbar in Herald of Thunder a bit more:
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Storm_Secret

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/Sm8Sqarzjkg

part 2

[fervent raptor]

There's an eva/es chest you can get for heralds and one of the foulborn mods is super nice if you wanted to build around https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Coming_Calamity

Well, both of them are but Lone Messenger is great for one Herald while the Herald Effect buff is nice for herald stacking, which is a reasonably strong elementalist build rn

A HoT autobomber is something that people do, but does normally require some awkward uniques - not sure if there are any workarounds with the new content this league though

Lycia Bloodline lowlife certainly has merit

There is also a new ring which requires you to farm the new breach boss fight but does some wild herald stack stuff

[hollow geyser]

Yeah the goal is to try and engage with the league content good so that ring might be on the wish list and it's gonna be a minute before red maps I think because just getting to Act 10 has been a journey

Some of the new to me rare mob modifiers are messing me up good though - is there anything to mitigate "Siphons Flask Charges" or "Temporal Proximity Shield" enemies beyond burning them down?

[fervent raptor]

Unfortunately not

Fwiw the ring is a super annoying grind - every time you complete the random boss fight "It That Was Esh/Tul" they drop one of 5 unique rings. You then need to vendor all 5 to get Lost Unity, the herald ring

[hollow geyser]

Ah yeah I probably won't budget too hard around that then, had to rotate in a rare ring for resists after A10 Kitava (was very glad I leveled right before the fight) and hit map device at level 76, gotta do merciless lab, read up on kingsmarch/sanctum/all the other leagues that opened, and figure out Atlas things now

[fervent raptor]

Oh you only get Uber lab trials in yellow+ btw

But you also only need to do 1 trial instead of all 6 (don't remember when that changed)

You get one offering per trial

[hollow geyser]

That's hugely more convenient than the old way of hunting down all 6 trials

[fervent raptor]

Yeah for sure

[sick grove]

https://imgur.com/3dmrkNr

https://imgur.com/TUBEtfA

oracle might finally convince me to play a spellcaster

then again smith with talisman skills seems kinda cool

[fervent raptor]

I feel like Inevitable Crits is gonna break something somewhere

Harmony Within could be cool as fuck though

[solar vigil]

i wanna do SOMETHING with the rage nodes on shaman

maybe wolp + caster hybrid idk

[slow jasper]

Oh both specs look kinda cool

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/bLa90dXVDWE?si=QzJhvJ64aRC_ObWt

Extra ascendancy

[knotty glacier]

Okay, that's sick as hell. Esp the fact the baraya stay with y ou and onyl do stuff on command

[solar vigil]

yo holy shit????

this rips

[keen dagger]

It's finally time to

WATER MY PLANTS

[solar vigil]

aaagh im so torn between wolp or plants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19C6hABzaDQ

idk if combining them is viable

[knotty glacier]

I am real tempted, i'll probably at least roll a sorc to evnetually give it a go

https://preview.redd.it/vc2f5dghno6g1.jpg?width=3759&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77b22077ec49bd9a0c9a3d01cf2e874f3fb9cd5d
https://preview.redd.it/xo8j3sfino6g1.jpg?width=3984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ebade2ffbe97fe78aed8f5747508d2cb48052d7
https://preview.redd.it/1ltmrh8hno6g1.jpg?width=3925&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35db504919778e4817a5f84e64ebc37513042095

https://preview.redd.it/u3n5cv4ino6g1.jpg?width=3984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79ef7c51f32c60fbe6d067b9582314ceef15c491

[hollow geyser]

Is there a good breakdown on not lighting all your gold on fire in Kingsmarch because the farm to shipment pipeline seems kind of baffling

[grizzled hamlet]

afaik these days you kinda have to farm gold if you wanna target kingsmarch for currency?

theres not a lot of ssf focused guides sadly

[hollow geyser]

Yeah that makes sense, it looks like something to have in the background while mapping

What tripped me up was the shipping had a minimum value which made it sound like gold was coming back but instead it was all kinds of currency goodies

[grizzled hamlet]

https://youtu.be/o32JwlwoF20 if you want a general shipping guide

it has a basic shipping strategy

that doesnt need too much setup

one crop + some dust

[hollow geyser]

That's not too bad yeah

Early mapping's going okay and I need to sit and either roll a 5L or get a better single target setup because life regen yellows are regenning about half as fast as my DPS which is slowing things down; it's really impressive each map has 2-3 league goodies each in it

[pine wedge]

The league mechanic can print 6L IIRC

[fervent raptor]

Yeah the tree shits em out

You also drop a weirdly high amount of 5L just doing breach content in maps

[hollow geyser]

Yeah a lot of PoE problems can be solved with more blood, in this case graftblood

[fervent raptor]

Blood for the Blood Tree

[keen dagger]

servers updat yet?

[hollow geyser]

What kinda damage are memory influenced petal map mobs doing? because it sure hurts which makes me think physical but it's colored pink

[knotty glacier]

Werewolf is very fun

[solar vigil]

Are you doing minion focus? Ghazzy was struggling and is respeccing from it

The minion damage seems real low

[knotty glacier]

I only just rolled it up

I was much more planning on jump on things and rip their faces off

rather than caring about wolveds

[solar vigil]

Ah fair

I might pivot to plants

[knotty glacier]

I'm more planning to go in on the freze and shred peope game plan

that seems more fun

[keen dagger]

im doing volcano bear atm whichis very enjoyable

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, that';s the otehr hting that looks fun, andi t's not like you're not icnetivzed to blend things a bit

[keen dagger]

im using pounce and spells with bear rn

[keen dagger]

definitely makes weapon swap passives feel way more relevant

[knotty glacier]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1pl7zbo/wolfpack_is_zdps/

[keen dagger]

oops

[solar vigil]

there was abug, but yeah theyre undertuned

im pivoting to plants

[knotty glacier]

My plan is very much to focus on the ice and reezing part

[solar vigil]

yeah

i JUST did direct damage ice melee last league tho

so i was interested in the minions side

but im gonna go with plants and take a look at it again if they buff it

[knotty glacier]

Ahh, i was all in on Tacticanshennagins

so this is very different

[solar vigil]

Werewolf tactician?

Does it somehow make the minions good

[keen dagger]

they mean last league

[solar vigil]

Oh fair

I think people were doing it tho

[keen dagger]

last league i played ice strike monk which didnt freeze as much as just killing shit

and thorns which didnt do anything

[knotty glacier]

Tactian has a lot of stuff for supporting minions etc

[knotty glacier]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Hyssegs_Claw also hey this

[solar vigil]

That looks

Wild

Does it give you a unique shapeshift form?

[keen dagger]

pretty solid early craft

by craft i mean of course regalling and then exalting after hitting double phys and getting attack speed and melee skills

[knotty glacier]

No idea

[knotty glacier]

Werewolf is very fun

Throwing down a thunderstorm, and then freezeing everyone in the rain and exploding them

It's also nice how i have an actual boss rotation

while in general exploring i just swipe stuff and jump on it and everoyne epxlodes

[knotty glacier]

hahaha what hte fuck

holy shit

Doing sekehmas, freeze the boss, get him to about 70% and do Cross Slash

instantly the boss is deleted

[keen dagger]

cross slash seems amazing

its also fucking huge

[knotty glacier]

It's really good

Like just on it's own merits, it's a really nice finisher move to a frozen enemy

the fact it sucks in iceshards as it goes is just excuse me wtf

[keen dagger]

I'm finding pounce to be just an all around excellent support skill for my bear build

I have it supported with crater, marked for death, and siphoning mark so that for bosses I get armour shred and mana leech and for packs it spots me 3 fissures

the minions don't do a lot of damage but otherwise the skill does so much

it's a slam too

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, it's realy nice. I'm debating putting "Freezing Mark" in it later on, which might be real good?

But hoenstly htem inions are fine as just extra meat shields

[keen dagger]

you definitely want to get freezing mark somewhere along the line with wolf yeah

[keen dagger]

it is extremely funny that Trialmaster's head loads in separately from his body.

[keen dagger]

drench works pretty well with freeze stuff, and pounce is just good generally

oh

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i've been using Thunderstorm as part of my "And now you get stuffed" rotation for bosses

rares are usually already dead

[knotty glacier]

I honestly am wondering how neccesary it'll be, there's a lot of freeze b uild up etc. Though more is better

[keen dagger]

yeah I mean if you are freezing the boss before it does anything and then 100-0ing it before it wakes up anyway it doesn't matter

seems like werewolf stuff might be the best druid kit

[keen dagger]

its still so weird to me that your character only becomes... a character in act 4

like sure they react to stuff, but they dont really talk to the NPCs until A4

the druid is so wise...

[hollow geyser]

Clearing a hive fortress for the first time has convinced me the default loot filter is not up to the task - what are folk's preferred PoE1 loot filters?

[keen dagger]

http://filterblade.xyz

[keen dagger]

took 24 levels to replace this lmao

oh nice the exalt got +2 melee skills

no longer marginal

[knotty glacier]

Nice

[cosmic owl]

Anyone else finding they have no motivation for this league?

[hollow geyser]

How far did you get and what's the furthest you'd been on a character lately? It sure takes a minute to get to maps these days so that's a big commitment

[cosmic owl]

I've "cleared" all availble content in each league, as I normally do

So I've killed whats his name forgettable fire dude in 0.3 etc

And I know how to get to maps reasonably quick, I could have easily done so today if I wanted

But both chars I started I just felt incredibly "why bother" early on

I guess because this league has no changes to the frankly awful endgame, and the league mechanic feels pretty sterile

[hollow geyser]

Speaking solely from yellow maps after a long break, this league seems on first instinct like kind of a win more league since if you have the screen clear to do the breaches you get lots of rewards and if you can't clear good it's tough to get the blood to upgrade the screen clear

[cosmic owl]

I'm talking poe2, not 1

Breach was very enjoyable

[hollow geyser]

Ah, that'll do, yeah PoE2 endgame is still a work in progress to my knowledge

[cosmic owl]

yea, but it had no work done between rise of the abyss and secrets of the vaal

I get adding a new class, and the entire transformation system is significant

[hollow geyser]

Yeah the patch cycle means that any endgame tweaks are probably 6 months out or further which can be rough

[cosmic owl]

But lets be honest, 90% of the appeal of arpgs is making a build, and if the endgame target doesn't change at all, then theres no challenge in making new builds

[hollow geyser]

I can see that for sure, while I do enjoy trying to take a build that's 80-90% there and try to make do with what drops that's definitely not the norm

[grizzled hamlet]

ive only gotten to the start of the intermediate acts last league

so im playing to at least complete those this time

[knotty glacier]

A solid craft.

[rustic grotto]

I didn't get out of Act 2 in PoE2 during 0.1 and haven't tried since

[grizzled hamlet]

its honestly really valid to just
wait out until 1.0

[rustic grotto]

Yeah, I think that's what I'll be doing

[grizzled hamlet]

from a friend of a friend

bear smith of kitava

just full tanking the act 3 sun

[grizzled hamlet]

LOL

alva: we can get our hands on atziris considerable assets
doryani: EXCUSE ME
alva: her treasure vaults
doryani: oh ok
i love the writing in path 2

i also just love every one of the witchs voicelines

[solar vigil]

i think im pivoting ot bear actually....
found a cool plants build for disciple of varatha im gonna put in my back pocket

[keen dagger]

this caught me completely off guard and I had to replay the conversation lmao

[keen dagger]

I'm probably not going to get 2 characters to t15s and do all the pinnacle bosses like I did last league but druid / primal skills are exciting enough for me to jam the league all weekend

[grizzled hamlet]

i appreciate that they add all this new VA and interactions for new leagues and such

both alva and doryani interacting with the vaal themed league and your character having dialogue too is so great

cause i know for path 1 not all the classes even have voice lines for acts 5>10, because they just didnt have access to the voice actors anymore

[grizzled hamlet]

god i love the currency exchange

just scrounged up 20 chaos to buy a new body armor

feels good

[granite yoke]

I am... COMPLETELY lost in the sauce on how to upgrade this

https://pobb.in/NmjvVoqoFaGx

other than 'better watchers eye with a precision effect' which is not cheap

actually only about 11 div to get crit multi on precision... hm.

...oh whoops. LMFAO. Best way to notice silly errors is to show them to someone else. They call me 0060

0% quality on mark on hit and 0% quality on sniper's mark
0 cheap overleveled support gems
60 divines invested in build

hmmm, the suffixes on those boots are also completely wasted.

oh, dammit, other than the cold res, unlesss.

yeah the hybrid resists on the shield and neck are wrong

[knotty glacier]

Wondering why my damage was sturglging and iwas feeling slower than i used to on my werweolf

Realzied because i'd swapped my weapon slots, but not swapped hwich passives were assigned to which wepaon set

OOPS

[keen dagger]

bahahaha

I must say I really like how relevant shape-shifting makes your weapon swap passives

[knotty glacier]

also, the "While stadiutonry nodes" are actually amazing on werwolf, because as far as i can tell, just spamming your melee atacks, even if those omove you, counts as being stanionary

so you get a ton of mana and health sustain out of them

[granite yoke]

that does make sense - flicker strike works the same way in poe1

[glacial flume]

I've just hit the start of act 3 as my werewolf/ wolfpack oracle and it's been pretty fun. Also managed to snag the best name

[keen dagger]

volcano bear has way too much going on at high levels its obscene

cannot even see the fucking boss telegraphs

[hollow geyser]

PoE1 Breach tree dropped a 6L Xoph's Nurture with 4 off colors after a hive fortress then next gift dropped a 6L Foulborn Xoph's Nurture with 3 off colors and "All damage can Ignite" so I think this league's all right for telling me 7L ignites sure are neat

[grizzled hamlet]

got to endgame
ill see how interested i am in continuing
might wait for .5 for the endgame changes
glad i finally completed the interlude acts tho

[keen dagger]

highlight of the interludes for me was the vastiri interlude boss

[knotty glacier]

I;'m def feeling Game is Too Long complaints.

It's mainly act 3 and act 4 that just feel like there zones are too big

[keen dagger]

Act 4 at least I find the be varied enough in environments and boss fights that it doesn't bother me that much

[clever widget]

Act 4 was long, but I did enjoy my first run through it

[knotty glacier]

Well, if i can get this to sell, that should help with early gearing!

[knotty glacier]

There's now a MTX that lets you turn into a crocidle instead ofa bear

[knotty glacier]

Well, thnat was easy. Asc 3 get

I do not understand people complaining it's hard on melee. Stack honor res, have good armor/whatever (I dindt even have maxed out elemntal resist, let alone chaos), have a good weapon

then just splatter everything as you go

[keen dagger]

It just harder

[fervent raptor]

Generally just harder to not be hit, plus positioning on the boss fights that leave hazardous areas is much better when you're ranged

[keen dagger]

I remember once I took my mace character through the trial and I had to respec into extra attack/skill speed because if I hit the curse that makes enemies speed higher I literally would not have time to land a slam between their attacks

[fervent raptor]

Yeah fwiw the biggest complaint was deffo maces because their skills are slow af

Also most QS stuff was "melee"

[knotty glacier]

I've done it as maces too, though i did it with shield wall stuff, so maybe that's why

[keen dagger]

yes if you can hold your shield up the whole time that's very different from using mace slam skills

[knotty glacier]

Well, also, i think people sleep on Leap Slam

the mobiltiy and gap close makes it very stronk

[keen dagger]

okay it is REALLY funny that if you devour a boss it eats their corpse so if they have a death line they scream it from inside you

[keen dagger]

the gameplay of turn into werewolf to pounce, build stun, turn into wyvern to wing blast away, stun, gain power charge, jump back to eat them, gain power charge, then your main attack has lighting arcing on it from charges feels very satisfying

[knotty glacier]

Oh that's very cool.. I land on things, freeze them, rip into them, and sometimes the moon is rainign moonerities fro mte hsky as i go

and sometimesi also have onslauight

[keen dagger]

I liked bear but it feels rough into late content

wyvern has less armour but the extra es regen and movement makes it feel a lot more survivable