ARPGs

[knotty glacier]

Even just for crossbow hunter, it sets up a ton of bullshit - like I'm considering a Rapid shot build.

NOw i can do things like having my priamry stuff be all setup to juice Crossbow attacks, and then when i hit my grenade button, isntant swap to the grenade juice and drop massive cluster bombs and explosive grenades that have double charges and can go off twice, etc

[prime spruce]

Yeah thinking about it more you can definitely create some fun combos

[knotty glacier]

Do note that 123 points is the max skill points you can get currently

...and you already get 24 weapon swap points, so Witch Hunter just gets to be Everything is Swap;.

There are some constraints: Jewels and Keystones can't be weapon swap nodes.

[keen dagger]

thats a good change

[keen dagger]

i was already doing this on my last merc tbh without the witchhunter extra swap stuff. the extra 20 points was so little to actually have fun with

honestly i think in terms of design the extra skill gem slots and the weapon swap stuff should be on the same ascendancy

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, probably/possibly

I would need to roll things around in my head more

[fervent raptor]

Okay that's just kinda super useful for everyone? The "one weapon bound to both slots" thing

[cosmic owl]

hmmm

I can probably kill abberoth tomorrow

Do I slog it out for uber this season, or do I ditch LE for poe2

[knotty glacier]

Oh yeah, it's huge. Weapon swapping is going to be a big deal this patch

[keen dagger]

I'm probably dropping LE to play PoE for a bit and then I'll pick up whichever I was enjoying more and do endgame for it

I'm definitely capping LE at regular Abby kill

[keen dagger]

these are completely ridiculous

better than most weapons for damage

they put the skeletons and rip blood on there to trick you into thinking theyre bad

[cosmic owl]

The skeletons are actually gas

Enables a few tricks

The boots are very good though

[keen dagger]

what do you use em for? sacrifice?

[cosmic owl]

nah, something gives you bonuses for having minons out

I forget what though, I only used it day 1

Those boots are absurd though, https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/kotarou_c/character/BAS_Flensor

I use them on my lich, and killed abby first try today

Hilariously I have a LP3 traitor's tongue, and LP1 mountain, but no good exalt to slam onto them

[keen dagger]

cold conversion seems nice for the extra protection

not a single good chest piece exalt? that's incredible

[cosmic owl]

Trying to get hybrid life

And I'm tanky enough - now - that I don't need to worry about it in the meantime

[cosmic owl]

whoops, fell out of the world

[knotty glacier]

I think I'm locked in on doing Tactican with Banners & immobilizing permafrost+ frostflame incindeary shots

Just seems very fun

War Banner + Defiance Banner is some serious shenanigans

[keen dagger]

5000 hot dog

[keen dagger]

@cosmic owl do you get the ward from twisted heart somehow aside from transplant or is it mainly for the huge hp?

[cosmic owl]

Solely for the HP

Transplant ward is nice, but not hugely relevant

An erased relic with dual life rolls would be better

But I'm having sweet no luck getting erased relics

[keen dagger]

oh man I've gotten so many and every single one has rolled the worst stats imaginable 😭

[fervent raptor]

oh hey Evasion ate a nerf in PoE2

apparently a lvl 79 enemy has ~1500 accuracy: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/36axvcdbuu

[keen dagger]

well my LP2 boots are locked in lmao

[pine wedge]

Which one are you going to guarentee?

[keen dagger]

move

gotta go fast

[pine wedge]

fair

[keen dagger]

wow

got core with my last portal charm 😌

[pine wedge]

YOOOOO

[keen dagger]

my endurance threshold is only 100 lower than my max hp (half my hp) now. getting real close

[keen dagger]

apparently at tier 4 titan you need to fight it roughly 550 times on average to drop an LP4 peak

[fervent raptor]

6 hours til patch up and I've no idea if I'm playing top or left side still

Living Bomb and Solar Orb have swapped places. Living Bomb is now a tier 3 Elemental Skill Gem, while Solar Orb is an inherent skill to Pyrophyte Staves. Existing items are not affected by this change.

huh

[keen dagger]

hope the servers can be stable

the nice thing about LE releasing a season a week earlier is I can just go back there if they aren't lol

[keen dagger]

I know I'm playing Monk but I'm just gonna wing the build

[fervent raptor]

Yeah I'm torn between Witch, Sorc and Warrior

Very likely to be a dice roll tbhh

[keen dagger]

I'm very interested to return to warrior with the changes to armour but also that was my last character

[fervent raptor]

Neversink's PoE 2 Filter for 0.3.0 is up!
https://www.filterblade.xyz/?game=Poe2

Don't miss the new "Auto Adjust for Build" feature on the Overview page for easy league-start levelling customization

[keen dagger]

nice

[fervent raptor]

oh, there are some minor twitch drops for this week and then the one following, if that interests people

[grizzled hamlet]

steam pre load is live

[fervent raptor]

I think standalone is up

just waiting for the checking to resolve

yeah Standalone is up!

46.35GB 💀

oh no, standalone is crashing

[keen dagger]

🙃

[fervent raptor]

seems to be resolved; patch size changed a little

[grizzled hamlet]

steam is up now for me

[fervent raptor]

be interesting to see if I finishing patching before launch, let alone the queueueueueueue

feels like a very late patch up

oh, crashed again so that's a definite no

Queueueueueueueue is up

[grizzled hamlet]

[fervent raptor]

my guildmate is 13th in queueue

[knotty glacier]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/passive-skill-tree/

Tree is out

[fervent raptor]

I'm not jealous

I don't know the tree well enough to spot the additions haha

[knotty glacier]

I would be more excited if i idnt have a playtest exactly an hour later after launch

[fervent raptor]

oh it doesn't actually say what the new nodes do haha

[knotty glacier]

It does for some of them

Here's a big one.

Oh that's nice

[fervent raptor]

okay we're seeing a bunch of weirdass supports in poe2db which is pretty encouraging for off-the-wall build construction

[knotty glacier]

Oh yeah?

Do share.

[fervent raptor]

Skittering Stone
Type: Support
Category: Minion, Physical, Duration
Support Gem Requirement: +5 Strength (5)
Description: Supports Skills which create shatterable earthen objects. After killing enough Enemies in range of these objects, they will shatter, releasing skittering stone Minions.
After 5 Enemies are killed within 4 meters of objects created by Supported Skills, they will shatter and release Skittering Stones.
Creates Skittering Stone Minions from shattered objects created by Supported Skill.
Supported Skill's Minions deal 1% increased Damage per 1 Strength.
Skittering Stone I

Minion Duration is 10 seconds.
Limit 8 Skittering Stones.
Skittering Stone II

Minion Duration is 20 seconds.
Limit 12 Skittering Stones.
Shattered Objects create 2 Skittering Stones.

a lot are TLd from CN

Corroding Ground (侵蚀地面)
Type: Support
Tags: Area of Effect
Category: Corroding Ground
Cost Multiplier: 110%
Gem Requirement: +5 Intelligence (5)
Description: Supports skills that create ground effects, causing the ground effect to continuously expand up to a specific limit.
Stats:
Ground effects created by supported skills expand by 20% per second, up to a maximum of 100%.

Poison III gives 20% more poison damage against bleeding enemies

there's a skill that doubles your Limit on applicable skills but reserves life when you use them

[knotty glacier]

Spicing.

Spicy* even

[fervent raptor]

Living Lightning
Type: Support
Category: Minions, Lightning, Duration
Cooldown: 0.20 seconds (5 uses)
Requires: +5 Intelligence (5)
Description: Supports skills that deal damaging hits. When Supported Skills deal Lightning Damage, generate Living Lightning Minions. These minions attack nearby enemies with Chain attacks. Enemies will not directly attack these minions, but can pass through them. Does not modify the skills used by minions.

Common Stats (for all levels):

Summon a Minion on dealing Lightning Damage with Supported Skill.
Minion Duration is 30 seconds.
Minions convert 100% of Physical Damage to Lightning Damage.
Minions Attack every 0.14 seconds.
Minions Disperse after 3 Attacks.
For every 10 Dexterity you have, Minion Attack Speed from this skill is increased by 1%.
For every 5 Strength you have, Minion Damage from this skill is increased by 1%.
Level I:

Limit 5 Minions.
Level II:

Limit 8 Minions.

stat stack minions

[knotty glacier]

Well, que is moving fast here

[fervent raptor]

I've still got 9GB to go

10/10 launch for standalone 🙃

[fervent raptor]

finally loading, dice said Sorc so FireStormweaver it is

[keen dagger]

5%?

cut off on the left lol

[fervent raptor]

yeah

[keen dagger]

5% is not a very large number

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, it's 5%.

Mm, it's not nothing though

[keen dagger]

where is this on the tree?

[fervent raptor]

straight bottom

[knotty glacier]

This is cute

And this is just flat nice.

[keen dagger]

so 4 pts for some attributes and presumably 5% life and maybe 5% ms if you're statmaxing. that's not bad

[fervent raptor]

they're more efficient attributes, too

+8 per

[keen dagger]

yeah I figured

definitely nodes I'd have been happy to pick up on my strength stacking smith

[grizzled hamlet]

sprinting is so nice

peak addition

[fervent raptor]

I forgor

I haven't even been rolling smh my head

[knotty glacier]

It has gotten me killed 3+ times already, i am very happy 😄

[fervent raptor]

okay not keen on the abyss rewards being gated behind finding that one little bug that's crawled god knows where

[fervent raptor]

okay Living Bomb is kinda nuts??

[fervent raptor]

why game hard

[fervent raptor]

Orb of Storms + Ember Fusilade is kinda hot

[keen gazelle]

Seems pretty good

[keen dagger]

ill give you two exalts

[keen dagger]

this has way more steps than it needs to

[fervent raptor]

it's because it guarantees a higher tier

and you could in theory omencraft around the mark?

[fervent raptor]

ez trial 😆

[keen dagger]

gave myself whiplash going from playing flay lich in empowered monos in LE to playing a Monk in act 1 of poe2

[solar vigil]

ok

the real question

is the scaling on hollow palm real

[cosmic owl]

Anyone else finding poe2 to be super crashy?

Had three crashes to desktop and I'm barely halfway thorugh a1

[keen dagger]

its been alright for me but loads really slowly

[knotty glacier]

Decide i'm feeling lazy

your finest crossbow, Finn!

yeah, for early on, this is fine

[fervent raptor]

No crashes but loading back to town takes 17 years

No idea re: hollow palm, was sorta waiting for a Reddit post or something about it ngl

[fervent raptor]

Quick check suggests it's very good for acts, obv endgame TBC

[knotty glacier]

Hmm. Permafrost/Frag round is fun, but feels awkard

AP rounds into HVR it's really potent

I am sad that armor break on stun seems to be gone ;.;

[fervent raptor]

god why does it take so long to LOAD THE TOWN

[knotty glacier]

Dunno, it's fine on my end 🙁

[fervent raptor]

just watched a 2:30 vid in #technical-discussion and it's still just chugging along, loading

man why does frostbomb get to be supported by spell echo/cascade while orb of storms can take neither

[keen dagger]

you cant tell me this isnt a cat

for perfectly normal reasons of course

[solar vigil]

God, the monk is such a fuckin dork I love him

[keen dagger]

anyone doing lighting wizard shit want this?

tempest bell is an incredibly fun and satisfying skill but it is very annoying that it places the bell in front of your character whichever way they are facing instead of like, turning around and putting it where you click

[slow jasper]

Bell rules, especially when you use charged staff to cheat extra hits

[knotty glacier]

Rapid Shot needs like... a bit more heat natively. i think ocne i have the quality sutff for it, it'll feel so much better

(since it's missing 15 heat capacity off that laone)

[grizzled hamlet]

so true bestie

[keen dagger]

we love lurking creature

[keen dagger]

i am finding way less runes and whetstones than on previous characters. even superior weapons seems to be rarer

anyone else noticing this?

did they change the drop rates or am i just unlucky

[knotty glacier]

Runes def seen rarer

Currency seems pretty plentiful so far

Also, if i have a "break 50% of armor on X" thing, then if i get 100% more armor break, that'll instnatly shatter all armor, yeah?

Cos if so, muahahahaha. ha. hahah. ha!

[keen dagger]

ooouhg the new armours looking sick as hell

[keen dagger]

OK A4 instances are definitely a lot more crashy than the rest of the game

[cosmic owl]

Towns are shared spaces, so loooots of people in zone

Also the goddamn goblin band

[cosmic owl]

100% more = 150%
100% increased means adding one to the multiplier

So if you had 10% base, and your stats were 400% increased (making 50%), then an additional 100% increase would take you to 60% chance

[keen dagger]

holy shit this is driving me insane

[fervent raptor]

? If you're at "Break 50% of enemies armour on hit," (be it straight base 50 or you started at 10% with 400% inc or w/e) 100% more would be 50 * 2 = 100, no?

[fervent raptor]

Tbqh, if this is the actual reason then there really need to be more instances available to people

It genuinely took me about 4 minutes to load in on that occasion, which is insane

Especially when there are multiple story beats that want you to return to town to talk to someone, then go to a zone to talk to someone and then back to town to talk to someone

[keen dagger]

i like that it just works

[cosmic owl]

The instances themselves aren't too crowded, so I suspect its just the balancers or something

[cosmic owl]

yea you're right

wow the act4 writing is really fun

My bloodwitch is hateflirting with dannig

[keen dagger]

i am really enjoying act 4

[knotty glacier]

That's what i thought.

Man, all you folks in act 4, i aint even finished act 2

Anywa,y my current plan is to combine Tactican's all damage contributes to pin

grab the "Break 50% of armor on pin" node

get enough extra armor break so it fully breaks armor

and take the "Fire damage also benefits from armor break"

combine with Explosive/Cluster/Rapid Fire/maybe incin shot?

[knotty glacier]

And if rapid fire doenst work (currentkly it's pretty awkard for v. reasons)

Like just doing explosive shot grenades will sitll work

[fervent raptor]

I've been distressingly social instead of a little gaming gremlin, but the base concept I've been working towards feels solid

Pretty comfortable infusion generation off of one generator skill, just gotta unlock firestorm now

Orb of Storms with random element gen and chance at extra from Stormweaver

[fervent raptor]

Been thinking about multi storming, and I think GGG have been a little too conservative with +limit supports?

[knotty glacier]

I would really like the game to stop having random freezes

[fervent raptor]

40% less duration in return for +1 limit is essentially a 20% more support with the additional cost of spending infusions and a long ass cast time

[knotty glacier]

Dunno, tbh. They really like their downsides, and i know a lot of people are pushing back on that

[fervent raptor]

Downsides are fine, but this is just unbalanced tbh

Like I'm not expecting to just get 100% more damage from +1 limit for free, but also given the aforementioned additional costs I think it should be at least as good as a generic support, if not better

[knotty glacier]

wanna see a really dumb one?

[fervent raptor]

Also if you have any other source of +1 limit then the support is actively a nerf

[knotty glacier]

Here is Long Fuse 1. Here is long Fuse 2.

5% more damage for 20% increase det time

[fervent raptor]

Huh

Also also in the case of the limit support, it doesn't actually make a difference in half of the use cases

Things like Tempest Bell, Orb of Storms or Gas Grenade don't care about the less duration because you get all of the uses out of them before the skill expires

Sorry, Decompose not Gas Grenade

Oh hey Overabundance III just says "fuck you in particular"

What is this downside??

[keen dagger]

LOL

[fervent raptor]

I mean that's super super powerful tbh if I can solve curses

But it feels like it should be a Lineage gem instead of a regular support

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i'm not entirely wild on the current support gem changes

I kinda feel like a better appraoch would have been having a set of "Generic" support gems that can be socked as muc has yoiu want, dont have downsides etc

and then the more specalized, one of things

[fervent raptor]

I mean there are a bunch of generic gems still

And the lineage gems exist as the "one of" supports

[knotty glacier]

Mm. i'm just not wild on the leveling up supports, etc

[fervent raptor]

I think they're just wheelspinning a tad with the change to supports from PoE1

Like PoE1 has supports that lvl 1-20 in the same way as the skill gems, so you have the built in progression there

And it's experience based leveling vs item drops

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, tbh, i kinda wish they just had skill gems and supports autop leveling to a degree

The current system really hurts epxerimation etc

i'm just happy explosive shot and GRENADES is working

though i have mana issues right now -.-

Ayyy

Jamanra down on first attempt

[keen dagger]

every time I league start I end up running out of potions on that fight

I had to put quarterstaff strike back on my bar so I could finish him off lmao

[knotty glacier]

I didnt. Explsoive shot + Too Many Explosive Grenades is uh

real strong

I had more issues with running out of cooldowns, lol

So you knoiw, must be doing somethign right

annnd froze again

pretty freeze screen though

[cosmic owl]

I've had two full days of social events this weekend

But A1/2/3 are also very fast once you've done 'em a few times

[knotty glacier]

I guess, i have done them a few times, i'm jsut.. not blazing at the speed ya'll are?

[cosmic owl]

Part of it is just knowing simple things; what direction the core parts of each map are in means we can beeline objectives instead of searching

[knotty glacier]

Fair

not somethingi ' m great at, tbh

[knotty glacier]

@fervent raptor You might be able to solve the curse thing via abusing Time of Need?

[knotty glacier]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Double_Vision

[knotty glacier]

Btw, you'd need to fiddle with it more, but the Supporting Fire/Unleash Hell skill actually does a suprsing amount of damage now

ahahaha

Pinning Explosive Shot and grenades are hilarious

"Hullo, you've been told to SIT THE FUCK DOWN"

[knotty glacier]

Ugh, apperntly Explosive Shot removes fully broken armor currently

that's depressing

[fervent raptor]

I can get 85% reduced curse effect on me which might be okay?

[pine wedge]

someone in another server just found this

[keen dagger]

thats very cool

[knotty glacier]

https://preview.redd.it/ffyyxkqp8emf1.png?width=1369&format=png&auto=webp&s=88e056ce86f4c31365e1e4f2a5df77e3d358cafc

https://preview.redd.it/yif22b7e8emf1.png?width=1214&format=png&auto=webp&s=5d38de3ddecbf5e50012fc067584436ab3e2cc64 new unique

That has multiple possible skills you can get

There's also a whole Variant asceonionfor withc, where you can become an Abyssal Lich?

and this changes someo f the passives, and your porotrait etc

[keen dagger]

speaking of which oh wow

[fervent raptor]

wonder if that combos with the essence

[keen dagger]

proably only for the mark

for 1 affix

[fervent raptor]

probably still worth tbh

you don't care about crafting around the item, just filling it

so one higher tier mod is great already, right?

[keen dagger]

yup

[solar vigil]

just got hollow palm, it is SO sick

[keen dagger]

big deeps?

[fervent raptor]

oh, apparently the lich omens are weapon/jewellery only

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/26307521

[keen dagger]

it would be nice if the omens told me what the fuck an amanamu modifier was

[fervent raptor]

amanamanamanamanamu was the minion guy in poe1, if that translates over

[keen dagger]

aha

oh it appears the roving wisps quest in kriar village is bugged

[fervent raptor]

okay I'm really get frustrated by the ES display in poe2

it doesn't show up on your mini life display and it's so thin against the life bar it's so hard to see properly

[keen dagger]

oh wow, make sure you find the Ferryman in the Ogham Interlude, he's in the second last area and sells a ton of greater runes

[fervent raptor]

wait holy fuck

Flameblast and Eye of Winter both have fifteen second cooldowns

did they just decide that the T13 elemental skills needed to be unplayable or something??

[cosmic owl]

argh || tavakai|| has three phases why

[keen dagger]

big

[keen dagger]

pretty good haul for 3rd ascension points trial

[grizzled hamlet]

ASYNC TRADING IS SO FUCKING NICE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[keen dagger]

it just fucking works!

[grizzled hamlet]

oh whats that, i wanna buy a unique, and theres one listed for an ok price 30 seconds ago
with trade site i honestly wouldnt even have messaged that person

now, go to their hideout, pick up the item, go back to mine

its so fucking nice

and having an ingame browser for this too

[keen dagger]

wait there's an in game trade browser?

I thought you still have to use the site?

[grizzled hamlet]

oh hey, path of exile 1 events

default binding is /

but ye its under market panel!

so path 2 clearly isnt set too long after path 1

tujen and rog dont look too too much older

there was alva in act 3
but shes a useless reference considering shes a time traveler
and i think the alva we meet in poe 2 is clearly a younger variant of the one we meet in poe 1

[keen dagger]

poe 2 is 20 years later than poe 1

[grizzled hamlet]

oh, that does check out

[keen dagger]

this was explicitly referenced in the marketing material but also in one of the interludes now they straight up say it

[grizzled hamlet]

oh rog also literally mentions two decades

when talking about expedition

[keen dagger]

oh nice

[grizzled hamlet]

huh, kalgurans cant use skill gems

interesting

[keen dagger]

the lore in a4 is so juicy

[grizzled hamlet]

im guessing it has to do with the vaal magic nuking the entire continet way in the past

yeah im clicking and reading everything

like when i played the game first

the king is interested in vaal artifacts

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

the banter between sin and doryani is stellar too

loving act 4 so far
and i literally just walked into town

[slow jasper]

lmao just got an exalted at lvl 11

Also, we do get referred to as the demon of atzoatl(?) in 2, which I think is a 1 reference?

[grizzled hamlet]

Would make sense

[keen dagger]

yep

also Alva in 2 is a younger version of the Alva in 1

[knotty glacier]

I'm nearing the end of act 3

Zig, City, City peak, Black Labs left

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, it's very funny to find out "Demon of Atzoal" was "One vepry, very fucked off time traveling mortal"

Sidenote, i highly enjoy the fact the Mercenray just remains having the worst no good adventure

"I hate living trees!" "I hate fungus!" etc "Oh, shiiiiiite"

He's a great character

[slow jasper]

another exalted?

[keen dagger]

I think merc is my second favourite of who I've played after witch

poe1 witch was good but poe2 witch is next level

Monk is kinda funny cus he Doesn't Get It and I don't remember warrior which doesn't reflect well on him.

I haven't played Ranger but I respect that she's a class 1 card carrying hater. she just doesn't like anything

[hazy dove]

Oh yeah I think that got established in like… Settlers in poe1?

[slow jasper]

Are exalts dropping like candy for anyone else?

[keen dagger]

yup

abyss drops tons of orbs

[slow jasper]

Ooohhhh

[keen dagger]

and they buffed drop rates in 0.2 iirc

[knotty glacier]

Time to shoot doryani in the face

Doryani forcefed Grenades

[keen dagger]

yay time for the best act

[knotty glacier]

I am very curious wether more of act 4 will confirm/deny my bet that Sin eats it during the story

(I hoenstly expect him to go ut during act 5/6 in ah eroic sacirfice of some kind)

[cosmic owl]

killed azmadi twice after dying asdf

campaign is not being nice to me holy shit

[knotty glacier]

I'm at 16, apperntly

[knotty glacier]

Thisisfine.exe

[slow jasper]

okay, sorc is really fun, even low level?

infusions plus multielement stuff leaning into each other

frostbomb applying flat exposure, spark orb just caring about spells, snap

snap is fun

snap arc fuyn

holy shit I got a t2 support at the start of act 2

Oh it's 1 to 5 now

makes sense

one per act plus endgaem, I guess

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i'm not super fond with that, but iteration, we;'ll see

[knotty glacier]

Also secondary bet: Despite all the talking up of it, Doryani won';t betray us

it'll be someone else

Doryani maybe wont be redeeme,d but wont backstab us either

[fervent raptor]

Man I had a revelation last night that I'm actually so unbelievably stupid

Me complaining about the duration penalty on the +limit support - it's still going to actually for realsies double my DPS in any given second

[cosmic owl]

Finally hit maps, finnaly got a sire of shards, and now my build is happening

What is happening is so many chaos fireballs my 3080 chokes

[knotty glacier]

That fucking sucks. Foudn a rogue exilke who became al ichborn, but got killed because poison ground effect? poison effect? unclear

why is chaos resist so hard to find while leveling 🙁

[cosmic owl]

Theres a lot of dumb deaths

I died three times to an interlude boss because it did a breath attack with no animation or projectile

Until a restart let me see what it was doing

[knotty glacier]

I find the way ocntent vnaisehs when you die still one of the most sour points

since it really butts against the Die, Die, Try again

[fervent raptor]

yeah leveling as an ES character means eating a ton of deaths

[cosmic owl]

It only really gets me when I die, a dot kills the boss, and a chaos orb drops

Every time

[fervent raptor]

I'm sorry hwat

[fervent raptor]

oh what

there's a new-ish ascendancy in the patch

The Lich, after doing some endgame stuff, can jump into the Well and become an Abyssal Lich

which changes 3 of the notables on the normal Lich tree

the minion buffs stack as well

oh and the explodey node becomes phys instead of chaos

[fervent raptor]

okay, so given I wasn't really feeling Firestorm and the existence of this ascendancy, I've restarted

And holy shit does EDC feel good

[keen dagger]

ehehehe

[keen dagger]

i got bad news about your ancestor's remains

[keen dagger]

very nice for a self-craft with just the tier 2 trans/aug+an essence and exalted orbs

lightning and phys are my two damage types

[knotty glacier]

Damn, that is very nice

[keen dagger]

this seems like it could be good

[knotty glacier]

Hmm, bummed that Trial of the Ancestors is not in teh game yet

i really want my next damn asc points >.>

(Because then i can piock up Iron Reflexs and Glancing blows, all my evasion becomes armor, 20% of my armor becomes deflect Rating, and my chance to deflect is Lucky and shennagins start to ensue)

[sick grove]

wc

[keen dagger]

you'll likely find a barya during interludes

[knotty glacier]

Whine: but I want it naooooooow

[keen dagger]

ok i can give u one

[knotty glacier]

I'm Tactican.

They have a node that converts 20% of armor to defect

[knotty glacier]

I'm good man, doing worry. Just doing a bit

I'm also not at home anyway

[keen dagger]

oh man alva is now having nightmares from the simulacrum league effect

[knotty glacier]

Don't*

[keen dagger]

I'm good man. Me do worry.

[knotty glacier]

Uhoh

[keen dagger]

Alva: "What do you think it means?"
Invoker: "It's an ominous sign of evil!"

No shit dude.

[knotty glacier]

He's doing his best

[keen dagger]

😌

[knotty glacier]

Doesnt one of the campaign choices give you a charm slot now?

So does that mean you can have 4 charm slots?

[keen dagger]

no

[knotty glacier]

Aww.

Bit werid thoguh, since the campaign choice is just permantly a +charm slot, so that third one is meaningless?

Still, good belt!

[keen dagger]

yup!

i think they forgor

i made the belt from scratch.

crafting feeling a lot better now

[knotty glacier]

I feel like they probalby need to eventually make am uch more cetnrialzied UI for it

because there are So Many Options

but yeah it jumped out to me that you can get stuff like Greater Abrasive for cheaps, and they add a really good phys modifier - soyou can start with a good magic base and build a good rare much more easily

(Given just how important +flat phys is for builds)

Side note, i still find it well, silly, the cmapagin has resistance penalties

while also giving you % res

this is one of those "...why don't you just change itemization tro acocunt for this" thikngs to me

[knotty glacier]

Oh shi-

https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1n66597/meet_the_new_deepest_tower/

https://preview.redd.it/jaq62nyffnmf1.png?width=1024&auto=webp&s=c7f51c81c500aab34d8f184e7815d1ffdb191a6f

[keen dagger]

oh that's fun

[knotty glacier]

Very funny they removed Deep Tower

and added this

[knotty glacier]

||Goddamit Tavaki. Goddamit Tanu.||

[keen dagger]

surrounded seems like it needs some more work than low life does

[knotty glacier]

Still, there's some very good nodes

Also damn, but armor applies to element is actually v good it seems?

Like people are reporting going negative % resist and tanking it up fine, and my survivability just jumped taking some

(and iron reflexes to convert my limited evasion into armor)

[keen dagger]

deflection and amour -> elemental are both very good yeah

the armour vs evasion vs es race is a little narrower now

[fervent raptor]

Which is funny when you consider how convinced people were that the armour conversion was going to be bad

[keen dagger]

you can get it to 100% pretty darn easily it seems.

very funny that armour just converts to elemental resistance by default in LE and now poe2 is like oh yeah that's smart

(tbf in LE there is physical resist so it makes more sense)

[fervent raptor]

you can go over, even

[keen dagger]

oh does that work? that's very nice then

[fervent raptor]

from my guild server:

like I understand the initial misgivings, but only if you didn't think GGG would account for the difference in how armour applies to ele compared to PoE1

for reference, in PoE1 resists happen first, and then ele armour applies. Because of this you need a much smaller amount of armour to be effective, so sources of armour conversion are small

in PoE2, ele armour applies first and then resists happen

[knotty glacier]

Uhm. Lol

I grabbed this for 1 aug

then i slammed an exalt into and got the 36 spirit

Which i just

wat.

[keen dagger]

easy peasy

[keen dagger]

merc can get real fuckin chonkey now

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, TIme of Need, Shard Scavenger with a good way to break armor

then add in tactian, stay light use cover, etc

Lots of options

you may even be able to eventually cut stay light use cover? I dunno, i dont fully understand how that one works, sicne i think it's mroe complciated due to the way armor works?

[fervent raptor]

makes armour less good against small hits but better against big ones

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, was just looking that up

which is probably fine, tbh? Given deflect as well.

[keen dagger]

I think you want either deflect investment or stay light, not both

since it's nice to have high armour for small hits

[knotty glacier]

The one big convsideration is i have no evade rating at all, since you know

Iron Reflexs

So it may just be better to grab Lucky +Deflects and the 20% of armor is deflect, and then use my last asc point somewhere else

Which both Cannons Ready and A Solid Plan are good

Hells, even Unleash Hell is actually suprsingly scary now as a "and fuck you, swarm of mobs"

(also it's a very good addtional way to shatter armor, as it scythes throug htings)

Also niiiice

Got an abyssla depaths, got an omen worth acool 45 exalts

[fervent raptor]

feels fitting given I've just ascended to a Lich

[keen dagger]

end of a4 spoilers ||I fucking love how tavakai just flies in and murders that fucking priest at the end there. I audibly said fuck yeah when that happened.||

[knotty glacier]

Yup, that was good

aslo a4 down

Forcefeeding bosses grenades remains a killer strategy

badumtish

[fervent raptor]

hmmmm

[fervent raptor]

titans were anti-maskers confirmed

https://packaged-media.redd.it/kt54f5yickmf1/pb/m2-res_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1756818000&s=07e8b45dbc2084d1165409e03de0d1de75c74618

[knotty glacier]

Oooh

got my first Legacy support gem drop

Kurgal's Leash

[fervent raptor]

is that the Unholy Might on Command one?

[knotty glacier]

Yeah

...there's nothing in teh currecny exchange for it's price, not even orders for divine orbs??

Ah, because it's only worth a regal

lol

Or maybe not?

Ah, poio, it's just worth an exalted.. That's a shame

[fervent raptor]

yeah it's one of the common ones I think

[knotty glacier]

Alas, but also, not so bad

i do wish i was 65 already thoguh, i wreally want to use Ratha's Assault ;.;

I got the useless unique ;.;

It disables sprint AND blackpowder blitz repalces your dodge roll and gives it a 3 second+ cd

Oh, and no native movespeed either

The blitz does shoot you a fiar disntance, but gods, that cdr

Shame, because it's actually a really cool item

[fervent raptor]

okay but

Cannon Ball Footsteps (Hidden)

[knotty glacier]

Goddamn

Got 5 Greater Iron runes form the ferry man

[cosmic owl]

boom baby

[fervent raptor]

that's really hot

[cosmic owl]

Took me 6 tries to get the 1 in 3, sold all the attempts for their crafting cost

total cost to craft: 9 chaos

Total value of result..... uh

literally doesn't exist

[fervent raptor]

what was the method?

[cosmic owl]

Perfect sorcery, search for bases with 3 suffixes + double crit

Hope like hell the 1 in 3 removes the excess suffix

Easiest craft of my life, the bases sell for 10ex

The perfect sorcs are 5 chaos, and a failed roll is still a 5 chaos focus

[fervent raptor]

hmm, thanks

nice resist spread

[knotty glacier]

This siaboslotuey onew of thsoe i do not understand the crafting system well enough

[fervent raptor]

literally every piece of gear is just like

"have cold res!"

[cosmic owl]

Essences apply some modification to an item.
Perfect essence of sorcery removes an affix and adds +3 spell skill levels

Thats it really

Everything else is just making that chance as high as possible

[knotty glacier]

I was meaning much more genral, in terms of hunting down/crafting specific items.

[cosmic owl]

In general no-one actually knows everything, you just can pull up craftofexile or a various wiki, or a content creator you like, and check for a given piece

hmmm

1 charm is such a sad result here

[fervent raptor]

yeah, I'm wondering what to go for on a focus given I'm not fussed about crit haha

[cosmic owl]

holy shit, a 6 trove abyss line

my pc is dyyyying

okay more than 6

9 edit: 10, there was one to the south

[cosmic owl]

Game froze in a rather nice spot

[keen dagger]

the overflowing abyss maps are hell for computer

[cosmic owl]

Managed to craft a spell damage/crit/crit/+3 wand

Only to notice too late my only success was on a low spell damage roll

So its back to the grindstone

[knotty glacier]

I am so confused

i just picked up pinning breaks 50% armor

ihave no other % increased armor break nodes

and i'm isntalty fulyl breaking anyhting's armor when i pin it

[ashen lotus]

So, heard the new PoE2 update is good, haven't played since the Huntress release, what did I miss?

[knotty glacier]

It's good, i am making entire screens explode

I cannot fil lyou in mroe than that right now tho

because iam going bed

[keen dagger]

they have drastically upped drop rates, made crafting accessible without immense amounts of grinding, balanced the defense types some more, made endgame progression a lot smoother, added a 4th act and some extra campaign areas to remove cruel difficulty, and added an in game trade search and asynchronous trade. it's really good imo and if you like poe you should check it out.

[ashen lotus]

Got it, is "the meta" still the same 2.5 builds?

[keen dagger]

no the balance got changed a lot. lightning spear got nerfed. I don't pay attention to meta builds but it would be wild if it were the same

[knotty glacier]

There's still meta builds, but like I ignored all that to build my own take on Tactican/Grenades and it's rocking

[ashen lotus]

How is tactician, actually?

[knotty glacier]

Very cool, got even stronger this patch

[ashen lotus]

I scarcely recall what it actually does, wasn't it like a minion class?

[knotty glacier]

It can do minions, with an eye towards Totems especially

But it has a lot of strong stuff

It has a node that boosts all immobilizing effects by 40%, and this links into one that gives you all damage is pinning

And makes it so pinned enemies can't take actions

[ashen lotus]

Oh wow, Suppressive Merc?

[knotty glacier]

Another node gives you a command skill that let's you call in a massive arrow barrage

[ashen lotus]

Sounds great given the endgame mobs going at mach 12

[knotty glacier]

Which was useless last patch, but hits like a screen clearing truck now

Another node cuts spirit reservation costs in half.

Just... Straight in half. This links to one that lets you run multiple banners (which also all guy big buffs)

Or to one that give 25% of your mainhand damage to your minions in your presence. Get some crossbow specters, run a hit squad

Also has some totem boosting stuff

[ashen lotus]

Hmmmm

[knotty glacier]

And some nice defensive nodes - one let's you armor contribute to a new stat called deflect rating (if you deflect an attack, it's reduced by 40%)

And the link above that caps your physical damage reduction and your evasion at 50%... But makes your armor count as if it was 200% higher & gives a big accuracy penalty to enemies away from you

So it's quite a well rounded ascension

Witchhunter also got some buffs, sorcery ward is better and oh yeah, they can just convert their entire skull tree into weapon spec nodes

[ashen lotus]

Damn, I guess I'll switch off from Gemling

And probably make a new character

[keen dagger]

the new league mechanic is pretty great for crafting and loot so I suggest making a league character

though it is very performance intensive in maps

[knotty glacier]

Crossbow in general got some love, it's a bit less clunky

And there's a new legacy support (unique support gem) that disabled your ability to reload that skill .. but your dodge rolls reload it and give extra bolts

Still some clunk, but it's getting better

[keen dagger]

oh yeah weapon swap being instant is big for for xbow

get a grenade Xbow and a bolt Xbow

[ashen lotus]

Curious, I basically didn't bother with weapon swap but I'll look into it

[keen dagger]

it's very handy for crossbow cus you can have one of the bows with an extra grenade base and one of the bows with an extra bolt or just high damage base type

[ashen lotus]

Got it, makes sense

[keen dagger]

and then you have a weapon swap tree which either fills in the grenade loops or takes projectile damage. if you tick off only one weapon set in the skill gem interface you swap automatically and it's very effective.

idk how many other builds can use it effectively. presumably two element spell builds would be good with it

[fervent raptor]

they're really pushing for combo things, so assuming you have one skill as a utility that enables another you can lean into that

extra stun passives for your big stun hit on melee, something that helps Contagion spread for edc, an armour break skill, a freezing skill etc

seeing as you can now bind the same weapon to both slots

[keen dagger]

oh yeah that's important and I forgot that haha

speaking of which I should probably just set up a weapon swap for Gathering Storm just to make it deal more damage at the cost of defense at the minimum

[fervent raptor]

I haven't touched it myself yet but I do imagine it's probably one of the most underutilised mechanics this patch

[keen dagger]

since I'm mainly using it to either start or end a fight with a bang

will do that when I get home

[fervent raptor]

bro found the final boss

[keen dagger]

very loud

[cosmic owl]

Made some more wands

Was feeling really good about this one

But same batch landed me this beaut

[keen dagger]

oh yeah that's hot

10% more chance and bonus probably better than a couple % more spell damage and a bit more mana though, no?

is galvanic field good?

[cosmic owl]

dunno, never tried it

[cosmic owl]

Unsure, but I do know 20% spell damage is worth more than 55% bonus by itself

[keen dagger]

so 4% sd compared to 10% chb is probably worse considering you also miss out on the chc

I guess pob answers this conclusively

[knotty glacier]

Got my 3rd asc

Instnatly went from no chance to deflect to effective chance of 38%

[keen dagger]

everything suppression stronk

[knotty glacier]

and that's before Scavenged plating

which is effectivley up all the time

[keen dagger]

apparently thorns builds work because of scavenged plating and a unique hat which lets thorns affect all hits which is horrifying to me

I am slightly distressed that your deflection %ge is higher than mine with like 20 evasion nodes as Monk 😭

I guess I should probably upgrade my chest armour at this point since I only have 700 Eva on it

[knotty glacier]

I have Deflection chance is lucky

that's what's doing it

Combining these two keystones - throw away my evasion to turn it all into armor, get deflect and elemntal protection from big piles of armor

(also, yes, upgrades - my chestpiece is giving me about 1k armor currently)

[keen dagger]

merc is so dummy thicc what the fuck

[knotty glacier]

`Given how fucking squishy i was last time

this is real nice

and lol, ifrogt about the thorns thing, but yeah, that's a nice upside to Scavenmged plating

[cosmic owl]

Sadly, pob2 doesn't

Not yet

[keen dagger]

[cosmic owl]

new league just has too many weird items

[keen dagger]

they make da whole new game

[slow jasper]

Oh ew

Saw a build video on yt

Start it up

sponsored by an rmt site

[prime spruce]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3839265

[fervent raptor]

I don't understand how the bottom wand could possibly be better than the top?

An additional 4% inc spell damage is absolute peanuts considering how much you probably already have on the tree and focus

And sure, 10% CHC CHD isn't huge but it's gotta be better than that, right?

[cosmic owl]

I might have posted the two images in the wrong order haha

[fervent raptor]

Ah that'd do it

[cosmic owl]

Sadly, that particular market seems to have died

Someone clearly posted it somewhere

Or, "died" in the sense that it now longer pays for itself

Still cheaper than crafting the buggers on average

[fervent raptor]

Well, wands can roll up to +5 natural

Whereas foci can only roll +2, so the essence is the best way of making them

And unfortunately gem levels are still far and away the best stat a caster can get

I also do think % of damage as extra is a very strong stat for a hit based wand to roll

[keen dagger]

i really dont want to do that again on this character lmao

i think i probably died 20 times in this stupid zone

[fervent raptor]

like I think a wand with 50% damage as extra is going to be better than a wand with even 120% spell damage for hit-based casting

[knotty glacier]

Boo, Explosive Shot isn't listed in that patch note thing

[fervent raptor]

so the Lich's Eternal Life node, which prevents your life from changing while you have ES, also stops your life from being reset to full when you level up or use a well

[keen dagger]

that is very annoying

[solar vigil]

Ok, they fixed the crossbow jamming bug

It would be SO funny if they added in like… a unique crossbow that could randomly jam but has some other benefit

[knotty glacier]

Ah bums

i tried out rapid shot a bit more, and it just doenst feel as good as Ratha's Assault Explosive Shot

[knotty glacier]

Main issues is you're pulled in too many directions - you dont really want Rapid Fire igniting, but you do want an ignited target ot hit... so that's somethign you have to solve. Explosive Grenades would work, but oops, you want to be firing those after you rapid shot. And you want a way to break armor, and you probably want to abuse HiVel, but that's also awkard, so maybe you're suppsoed to make a AP rounds -> HVF -> Rapid cycle, but that's 3 different ammo types and what do you do about heat? etc.

Compared to just... Ratha's assault in explosive shot, never worry about reloading that, throw big meaty grenades anyway, ExShot hits like a truck anyway

[fervent raptor]

Viability is pretty poor for a lot of skills tbf

[knotty glacier]

Time to pop this Heart of hte Abyss i just got

That's pretty okay

looks like it's roughly a div?

So, uh, NOICE

Oh shit ,for a dedicated Banner tactican, that'd be relaly good

[cosmic owl]

nice

I'm now at the odd bit of my build where every upgrade costs 5-20div

Well, I can still go for a fat ES chest, but that requires me to actually get my third ascendancy

And sadly the servers have been far too unstable for baraya

[knotty glacier]

CONSUME CONTENT

ah yes, the helemt that takes away your abiltiy to sprint and dodge roll

amazing

-.-

Gimme some good uniques, game

[keen dagger]

you have to kill pinnacle bosses or roll 1/100000000 to get good uniques sorry

I like that the first level of pinnacle bosses are now accessible

it's strange coming from the LE league. in LE the Unique items are really good and and endgame build is going to mostly be using uniques that have rare mods added on from the crafting system. In PoE they are way more niche

[fervent raptor]

I think that sums up uniques in PoE pretty well - they're there to fill a niche and you're only going to use them for that purpose (barring obvious chase items like MB etc)

Sometimes that niche is "jack of all trades leveling item" and sometimes it's "build defining," but they all have a purpose

[fervent raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8-HsbBP_H8

[ashen lotus]

So not really worth it to MG42 again, ouch. What's Ratha's Assault?

[fervent raptor]

ooh, seen an interesting suggestion to aoe/duration max an offhand Sigil of Power for casters

[fervent raptor]

so now that I'm playing an actually good clear skill, I'm wondering what the best elemental spell clear would be

I feel like it might be lightning-infused Arc? 15 chains and 200% more damage 🤔

[prime spruce]

I saw a pretty interesting spark build that looked like it had a lot of clear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOIjDx3FXtM

[fervent raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MochVc3-7ug

pick your poison ig

possibly easier to access without needing Widowhail

[prime spruce]

The spark build actually looks pretty cheap, yeah a high rolled widowhail will be expensive but a 250% one is only 1ex right now. The quiver really only needing 2 mods also makes it easy

Arc does seem very fun tho too

[fervent raptor]

ah I meant from like, ssf perspective

I do think it's a damn shame that firestorm just doesn't seem viable at all

maybe I'll respec my Sorc into Arc when I've done a bunch on this new char, but I'm interested in some Abyssal Lich shenanigans

(beeg aoe on contagion??)

[prime spruce]

oh fair enough, I don't play SSF so it's not something i think about

[fervent raptor]

ah, I'm trying to be more mindful of it as I'm likely to play more guild private leagues over the coming patches

I've already got a loose plan for my next PoE1 build working from that perspective

speaking of ssf viable builds, a 67% helmet darkness enthroned is only 3c atm 👀

that's 20% minion reservation efficiency right there

[fervent raptor]

oh hey, Deliberation is a nice easy gem to socket into most spells

20% more damage but move 30% slower when casting

[keen dagger]

can you put that into channeling spells?

[fervent raptor]

any skill that you can use while moving

[keen dagger]

awwww

awwww fuck

[fervent raptor]

I've just dropped it into essence drain because it's not a spell I'm spamming

and it actually multiplies the dot

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3840893/page/1#p26324650

[knotty glacier]

Boo, Explosive shot still eating armor

[fervent raptor]

oh what the Skull of Undeath tracks k/d

I know what my mtx do, honest

[knotty glacier]

Nice, got my first raw divine drop from a t3

[fervent raptor]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/26325814

[knotty glacier]

Huzzah!

That';ll be a really big deal

right now you just sorta... don't use explosive shot, whcih is aw aste, because it hits like a mach truck

and it's actually more comfy to interweave grenades and explosive shot

The chonkyness of my Witchhunter is feeling really gfood

er

Tactican

[keen dagger]

wow desecrated map mods are gross lmao

[knotty glacier]

Yeah?

[keen dagger]

my choices were:
players and minions deal no damage for 3 seconds every 10 seconds
-1% skill speed for each skill used recently
monsters inflict grasping vines on hit

[fervent raptor]

Oh hey those mods look familiar

Except there's going to be significantly less counterplay to T17 map mods than in PoE1 so that'll suck

[knotty glacier]

Oh I thought that was like, they really juiced the map in return for the downsides

[fervent raptor]

Oh it should do yeah

Map mods have inherent upsides to them, usually larger the more difficult the mod is

[keen dagger]

yeah it gives uppies

[fervent raptor]

They changed how the system works this patch: before you had prefixes that gave upsides and suffixes that gave downsides, but that made for feels-bad times if you rolled a map and just slammed suffixes vs prefixes etc

Now each mod gives an upside and a downside, regardless of what type of affix it is (which is the PoE1 system, albeit with more variance in upside types here)

Basically they want to avoid situations where people have a 4-mod map and adding a mod is only bad for you

Adding mods to a map should always be more rewarding

[knotty glacier]

Oh, i'm aware, it's just hard to comprehend what the upsides might be when you only see the downs, ya know?

[keen dagger]

here's before and after, so 22% pack size and 30% waystone drop chance

no, it does not show these in the well of souls interface

[fervent raptor]

Yeah, the upsides to map mods has always been relatively obscured which is maybe a shame?

But maybe actually for the best as it's just additional information that I don't think people will be making decisions based on

You only really care if you can do the map mod, not what upside it gives

So it's enough to know that there is one ig

[cosmic owl]

Many very accessible POE uniques are incredibly good, they just tend to be a bit more specific

[keen dagger]

oh shit

[knotty glacier]

I've been idly keeping an eye out to see if any uniques would really make my build shine, but i think the only one is the new unique surronded helm

Astramentis is the other one that'd probably be good

Though not super neccesary

[cosmic owl]

lmao the helm of everything

[cosmic owl]

whats your build?

Its also worth noting that often poe2 uniques aren't the build in and of themselves, but an engine that powers it

[knotty glacier]

I'm Grenadeatician

Good fun

Everything gets pinned to the ground and then EXPLODES

Ironically, Sharkgonne would be perfect if it didnt suck shit 🙁

If it just had a more reasonble CD on it's skill

[cosmic owl]

Having a quick look, you could choose to scale off lighting instead via valako's vice, many builds seem to run constricting command and idol of uldurn ups limits if you use ballistae to fire

[knotty glacier]

Constricting Command would genuinely be good for me

but it's expensive, i think i have better priorties right now until i've got the skill points to sink into the surronded sstuff

Scaling off lightging is Not Worth, since i'm using Molten ONe's gift\

[cosmic owl]

But yea, your build appears to be a full rare build

[knotty glacier]

And i don't use ballistas because... lol

I hate them, tbh

[keen dagger]

constricting command is like 5div right

[knotty glacier]

It depends

Ideally you want one that's 5, becaue then you always count as surornded i belive

[cosmic owl]

yea

But you can just get a lower one

[knotty glacier]

The problem is there's no way to filter for that atm XD

The trade site only has 'addtional" enemies

Ohg, wait, i'm dumb

just have to put a - in front of it

[keen dagger]

you can't sort by an affix once you look up da belt?

oh lol

[knotty glacier]

mm, even a 4 one runs you nearly 2 div currently

i'll save my currecny for now

I'd be better investing my 2 divs that i have into upgrading my rings and amulet into non campaing gear shite (I;'m doing t3 maps with them just fine, lol) and sorting out my chaos res

And I'm only just level 70, so i've got time to build up a stock pile of more skill points to use on surronded stuff

[keen dagger]

oh yeah you do not need to spend 2 div on anything until level 85 unless your build is wild

[knotty glacier]

Exactly.

[keen dagger]

I usually buy a 1div weapon once I've done a few maps

[knotty glacier]

and tbh, if the always on one is 8 div, and the only on when i've got 1 enemey, like... I may as well save for the awlays on one

Plus, even if i dont get that helmet, ther'es a lot of ther plenty powerful nodes like Sand in the eyes, the gems giving me 5% health and move speed one

My armor not applying to my movespeed, so i get to be even more zoomy

Make my gloves give me evasion rating, that converts back into amror, so i effectively get double the defences off my gloves, etc

[keen dagger]

I think the "n item gives you x of one defence for every y of another on it" nodes are kinda busted

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, normalyl hybird items give you more total defence, but sdplit across 2 (Which is part of why Iron Reflexs is secretly good)

But i ntrhe case of doubling, it's just.. .yeah, no that's insane

[keen dagger]

I've tried a couple respecs and they are just the best defensive nodes in my tree

[fervent raptor]

Abyssal Lich can low key do ES crimes

[keen dagger]

lich has some wild defense layers going on

[fervent raptor]

Skeletal Minions you would create instead grant you Umbral Souls for each Minion you would have created

Skeletal Frost Mages grant 35% increased maximum Energy Shield.

[cosmic owl]

abyssal lich is super cool

argh

[fervent raptor]

it's cool and flavourful, but I'm not super sure what I want to do with it

[cosmic owl]

Defiance is getting more expensive at roughly the same rate I'm earning currency

I only just hit t9 maps

[fervent raptor]

the two main nodes of interest are the "minions become buffs" one and the "consume a power charge to repeat a spell" one

the problem for me with the minion buff one is that all the buffs are pretty generic except for the aoe one, but I have no idea what I want to scale aoe for haha

and somewhat annoyingly it changes the explodey nodes from the chaos I'm scaling to phys that I'm not scaling, so abusing aoe pops doesn't work either

[fervent raptor]

in a semi-related note, I'm impressed at the lengths GGG is going to to make Hexblast unplayable in both games

[cosmic owl]

PRAISE BE

Selling it a little cheekily high

[fervent raptor]

oh

oh no

I want 4 of those for this build 💀

[cosmic owl]

I on the other hand want to buy a defiance

[fervent raptor]

I did however just get a nice wand that I think I can sell for a divine or two

[cosmic owl]

oh dammmm

thats sick in an arc build

[fervent raptor]

listed for 3, if it hasn't sold by the time I'm home tonight I'll drop it to 2 I think

no reason not to try ey?

also have this staff to craft, although +4 is much worse on a staff

[cosmic owl]

mmm pretty weak that

I think its +6 or bust for staves

[fervent raptor]

yeah, figured

[cosmic owl]

I might have overjuiced my first t10 map

It has 30 rares

[keen dagger]

but does it have delirium 3 breaches and overflowing abyss?

[cosmic owl]

1 breach and voerflowing

Still far too squishy

[fervent raptor]

feeling reasonably good on ES

considering

[keen dagger]

damn under 2s delay

[fervent raptor]

I should be able to get faster start on jewels and my focus as well?

two new jewels

[keen dagger]

hough I should probably invest in some more recovery

[knotty glacier]

This should last me a while and cause mana issues

[fervent raptor]

oh no

my poor guildie

[knotty glacier]

Oh, that's horrible

tbh, i stil lthink loot goign away on death feels dogshit

[fervent raptor]

eyy hit the suffix I wanted

[keen dagger]

very nice

[fervent raptor]

spicy

[knotty glacier]

Hmm. I should probably update my rings and amulet at osme point, but my current ones are decent

[cosmic owl]

I'm starting to think shade walker is a bit too powerful as a modifier for mobs

I just lost a map to a single abyss spawning three of the bastards

who thenstunlock me to death

[cosmic owl]

There two assholes just shroudwalked out of the path of my projectile, behind me, crit me, and killed me

[knotty glacier]

That is rough

[cosmic owl]

I don't get the teleprting abyss dudes

I had 75 chaos res, 1500 ES, 3,000 life, and they melt me in seconds at t10

[cosmic owl]

Saddest +4 you'll ever see

[fervent raptor]

Oh brother

I'm sure that'd sell for a chunk, but...

[keen dagger]

I think it's kind of a classic "new league mechanic enemies are overtuned"

the little guys who explode into dot ground have been giving me anxiety

luckily 5% health on kill and shitloads of dudes coming out of the pit at once usually resolves that

[fervent raptor]

Fwiw that's why I've gone so hard on ES regen delay

Afaik there's no real ES on kill and I can't do life stuff on Lich haha

[keen dagger]

I'm thinking of picking up the life leech as ES gloves

but would need to do a couple jewelry upgrades to fit them so need a couple div lol

I already have almost 30 nodes invested in defense so I don't really want to spend more on delay

[fervent raptor]

Yeah I've put in a fair chunk

[fervent raptor]

just counted and I have 32 nodes that are ES or ES recharge related

[fervent raptor]

the interlude nameless seer

don't mind if I do

[keen dagger]

hot dog

what are you using for murdering on this char?

[fervent raptor]

EDC

an OSin Monk tickles my pickle though

haha 40% of OSin players are doing Hollow Palm

wait

[fervent raptor]

man I did a dive to see if anyone was playing ele lich with osin and like

yeah they're all just bug abusing

[knotty glacier]

Nameless seer didn't give me anything great, alas!

[fervent raptor]

oh they never actually put Overabundance III in game

my firestorm dreams were DoA

[knotty glacier]

Unique i just found

Corrupted, it can go over 50% of your max mana as armor

[keen dagger]

yeah this one is great

not a pushover base either

kinda annoying there's still no str/int character

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, corrutped versions are going for a div

Which is telling. Gain mana as armor is pretty great, eps if you go into Int/str gear and get "Gain armor as element"

[keen dagger]

the recharge rate is also great

[knotty glacier]

Oh, yeah, shit, i kinda glossed over that, that's also very good

I still want them to tweak life and ES a bit more

[keen dagger]

that's very funny cus the first time I read this item I glossed over the armour conversion lmao

[knotty glacier]

ideally what i'd want to see is life values a lot higher, but it's harder to heal overal - Like quadruple the amount of life you have, but make it so being on max life isnt hte eaiset thing.

make es about the same/lower, but push the recharge up - so ES is a temp shield that comes up a lot (ala halo shield if you ever played those games), while it's much harder to just pop life... but damage to it is "Sticky"

[keen dagger]

sticky? like the grenades in halo??

I think the halo games and poe are my two most played games every

[fervent raptor]

fast enough for you? 😉

[keen dagger]

I have over 3k hours in the halos put together and probably the same in poe

[keen dagger]

over 2 seconds to get to full? embarassing

[fervent raptor]

hmm, I'm not sure if Soul Bloom is bugged or the tooltip is bugged

rejigged, this should be 2535.6 / second

I think it's a reasonable compromise

[keen dagger]

0.25s extra delay is definitely worth recovering in just over 2 seconds rather than just under 3

[knotty glacier]

Oh, sorry, adhd brain got distracted

as in like the damage sticks around, it's not easily healed

right now hp drops incredibly fast, you hit your potion, it shoots up increibly fast

it is, in my opion, a major issue with their more tactical game design

Compare the dark souls games, where being one shot is a: generally pretty hard, b: feels dogshit when it does happen.

But also C: Healing takes time, and is a limited resource that runs out

here you can theorticlaly run out of potion charges, but in practice you;'re much more liley ot die because you got either one shot

or you took so much damage from multiple soruces that it was a one shot/overwhelemd your healing from a potion

The net result is the effective tactical space for mistakes is much lower - you're either dead or not.

binary

[fervent raptor]

potions should be a last resort and not your primary recovery method

[keen dagger]

i knew what you meant by sticky i was just being silly

but thats well said yeah

[knotty glacier]

Ah, kay.

Yeah, i should really write this shit up and submit it on the forums

[keen dagger]

anyway give me a plasma grenade skill ggg

[knotty glacier]

Leech is honestly a problem under this model too

[knotty glacier]

Genuinely, i want Merc to get some sort of sticky grenade that's a bit more skill shot, and i want a geniune pure phys frag grenade.

[fervent raptor]

(barring like, specialising into potions)

[knotty glacier]

WHich currently don't have

[keen dagger]

imagine if pathfinder had an identity HJa aha hahahaa

[knotty glacier]

Though it's probably sortable if you just cut leech amounts down (at least for health. Tbh i'm a bit more fine with mana being zig zag)

[knotty glacier]

I did enjoy my pathfinder in 1.0, thoiguh thte niggling "I shoulda played Deadeye" was not fun XD

But hten i did thewitchunter etc, and had good times iwth that

ugh, i gotta submit feedback on Rapidfire too

[fervent raptor]

I think they've leaned into pots a little too hard with the idea that everyone will have a life pot on their bar tbh

bring back all the regen on the left

leech is pretty fine on the right and contrasts well with evasion based gameplay

[knotty glacier]

I think they're actually clsoe, but what i'd prefer is: Rapid fire can't overheat, get's it's damage ramp back, but keeps the new model of heat

and firing grenades gets even stronger, but consumes that heat, so it's a bit more push/pull, and "Rapidfire to then discharge grenades" and "Pure rapid fire only, with various heralds /richoet etc" should be options

[keen dagger]

they'd have to completely rework scaling and how endgame works because its impossible to have a slower tactical game when i can kill an entire screen of enemies with one skill use and if i stop moving for 0.1 seconds i die

which, tbh, i'd be down for. i already played poe 1

poe2 maps feel like poe1 maps with Combos

[knotty glacier]

Yeah, i think that's part of my issue with the lifeflasks is it encoruages that model of gameplay

[fervent raptor]

huh I actually don't know what I'm doing on the tree now

[knotty glacier]

and ofc, a lot of monsters punish combos/make it hard/interrupt them

[keen dagger]

once i pass level 80 i basically respec every level up

[knotty glacier]

Hell, evne my Grenade build is dangerous close to a one button build (it's not, but you know)

[keen dagger]

simulacrum straight up just does not work with poe2 builds unless you're doing 1 button shit. it sucks really bad

[knotty glacier]

I have def noticed Some Shit with just breaches in .3

I nearly died the first time i was doing one because of the incoming damage

my build and gear are better now, so less of a problem

but Ooof

[keen dagger]

oh you need 1 second to wind up? sorry kosis's attacks all do 80% of your hp on wave 10+

[knotty glacier]

In .1 my issue with bosses like Zarkov was mana, because rapid fire cost so much to keep going

(oh, also, does anyone have a good tutorial on how to weighted sum for searches?)

[keen dagger]

that guy had way too much fucking hp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFK5GoYQ7Qc

[knotty glacier]

Fantastic

oh, and i like ZiggyD too

Chatted with im a bit on his stream, he's cool

We're b oth running Tactican Grenades right now, so we were trading notes on those

And i got to tell him abotu the Explosive SHot issue

[keen dagger]

ziggy is great

[knotty glacier]

which is just very funny

We also had "Wait, why is my oil grenade not doing that?!"

So

It is suppsoed to be that hte can't destroyground support stops oil grenade from igniting

and this works for your abilites and monster abilites

but if you set a monster on fire, and it walks in?

the entire oi lgrouind goes up.

(it'd be good to stop it ignitng because you want ignites from explosive shot anyway and also igniting it destroys the slow effect and the visibility)

[grizzled hamlet]

ziggy is lovely indeed

[knotty glacier]

Ugggh

i delted all the modifiers on my map becuase i logged out while doing it

thanks, adhd brain -.-

[cosmic owl]

bah, definances went up 3 div overnight

7 div to go

[knotty glacier]

Defiances?

[cosmic owl]

Defiance of destiny

Its an amulet that regens you 10-20% of your life before getting hit

Its really good for my build since I spend life for spells

[knotty glacier]

Ahhh, i'm with ya, i'm with ya

Also, side note, basic attacks are... really strong now?

Like just my basic crossbow shot has 10k dps currently

[keen dagger]

always have been

[knotty glacier]

I think they just feel better since now you can slam support jewels in the mrpetty freely

[cosmic owl]

oh shit the recombinator exists

why am I trashing these almost good rares

[knotty glacier]

How do you unlock that?

I do not yet have it in my hideout>?

[cosmic owl]

Expedition

[knotty glacier]

Ahhh

That would b e why then, i have yet to find one

Also, eey, first perfect jewlers

not sure if i sell it to fund gear upgrades, or just use it

Hmm. They are falling in price pretty noticalby - they were 80 at the start of the week, they're down to 40 now

I think grabbing 40 exalts right now makes sense

More damage is nice, but that's mainly all i'd get out of it, i'm not really struggling to kill stuff

and i need gear upgrades SoonTM

[cosmic owl]

lmao, my first drop too